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MFF US Northeast => Maine => Topic started by: The Rusty Crab on Aug 18, 2010, 09:11 AM
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So I was informed that out in New York on Lake Ontario they eat yellow perch. Fillet and battered then deep fried, suppose to taste like a potato chip??? I didn't believe them until dinner that evening and seeing on the specials Northern Yellow Perch: broiled or Fried 11.50. Shocked has anyone ever ate these aggrevating bait takers
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Very tasty, if you can find them without worms. Still anoying little bait stealers though.
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They taste like crap. if i was you i would just send what you catch down to us new york guys and we will get rid of them for ya ;D ;D ;D
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Yellow perch are very good to eat. I like them rolled in bread crumbs and fried up in a skillet with butter. I have never caught a wormy yellow perch in NY...only a tiny worm here and there (plus some with worms around their eyes, but not usually much in the meat). Many of the ones I have caught up here in Maine are quite wormy though...probably wouldn't hurt the taste, but just unappetizing. Edible though, I'm sure...if cooked well.
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Yellow perch are wonderful table fare. We fillet and either batter and fry or boil and serve chilled with cocktail sauce as a poor mans shrimp. Clean, firm white flesh fish. Any worms found will not hurt the eater. Only unappetising to the eye. I will usually discard fillets with worms/grubs. Only found a few in some fish caught in warm waters in the summer. Very few if any found in the flesh of cold water fish caught while ice fishing.
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no worms in winter. ;)
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no worms in winter. ;)
Caught some last winter with worms. 8)
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SOME OF THE BEST TO EAT
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pretty much the only fish i eat out of the pond out front and they stock bows and brood salmon, i prefer the yellow perch. heres some with rings and ketchup, lets hear it from all you anti ketchup folks ;D
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Caught a sled load of big ones a couple of winters ago. Hate to admit it, but they were delicious.
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put the fillets in salted water overnight in the fridge, and the worms will get out of the meat. no worms here, just grubs in some sunfish.
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They taste like crap. if i was you i would just send what you catch down to us new york guys and we will get rid of them for ya ;D ;D ;D
Send them to Parish, NY...... NOT Palermo, NY!!!! NICE TRY HT!!!!!--KP ;D
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You New York guys should come up to Maine this winter, we could put you on plenty of perch. ;)
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We hear that Mainehazmt has trained EAGLES..... We'll stay home thanks!! LOL!! Just kidding! A couple of us have talked about hardwater fishing there in the past.... just maybe we'll take you guys up on that offer!! ;) Tightlines!--KP
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We hear that Mainehazmt has trained EAGLES..... We'll stay home thanks!! LOL!! Just kidding! A couple of us have talked about hardwater fishing there in the past.... just maybe we'll take you guys up on that offer!! ;) Tightlines!--KP
You folks are welcome here anytime. Even hazzy has eaten perch at the shanty banquet!!!! :rotflol:
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We hear that Mainehazmt has trained EAGLES..... We'll stay home thanks!! LOL!! Just kidding! A couple of us have talked about hardwater fishing there in the past.... just maybe we'll take you guys up on that offer!! ;) Tightlines!--KP
KP lets take a weekend ride up there. we could cook those perch right out there on the ice! ;D
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KP lets take a weekend ride up there. we could cook those perch right out there on the ice! ;D
You'll have to shoo the eagles away if you cook them on the ice!!!! ;D
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I'm thinking of offering some guiding for winter perch ;D Any NY'ers need a guide?? ::)
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Even hazzy has eaten perch at the shanty banquet!!!! :rotflol:
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Say it isnt so...He ate eagle food... ::)
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Even hazzy has eaten perch at the shanty banquet!!!! :rotflol:
Say it isnt so...He ate eagle food... ::)
A lot of perch haters have, and didn't even know it. They thought that whole pile of fish was crappie. :rotflol: :rotflol:
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Now thats a good one.... :clapping: :thumbup_smilie: :bowdown:
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I'm thinking of offering some guiding for winter perch ;D Any NY'ers need a guide?? ::)
GOTTA bring HAZZY with us....then Yes, We'll go!!! ;D HAZZY eating PERCH? I won't believe it until I see it!! ;D--KP NY guys... Be careful how many times we respond to these guys, they might catch back up in total Posts!!! LMAO!!! It's all good guys!! ;)
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GOTTA bring HAZZY with us....then Yes, We'll go!!! ;D HAZZY eating PERCH? I won't believe it until I see it!! ;D--KP NY guys... Be careful how many times we respond to these guys, they might catch back up in total Posts!!! LMAO!!! It's all good guys!! ;)
Is that what they are doing ??? they want our posts ??? ??? OMG LMAO ;D ;D ;D
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I will trade them the lead in post for the type of fishery they have out there ::) I would love to be closer to the large kings, browns, steelheads, and cohos.
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That sounds like a very fair trade!! Have your people contact our people and we'll see if we can make it happen!! ;)--KP
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hey k.p. what do ya think if they come down next month we can send them home with a cooler full of king's and coho's for every cooler full of perch they bring us ::) :whistling:
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Your on my team now Killer!!!--KP 8)
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I asked to see a guy's catch one day (not far from home) and he had a near the brim 5 gal pail-full of them 'Tiger Trout'! Said 'e got a bunch of Whites too. Asked to see those and he said he threw them all back!?!?! :o He was in a canoe, fishing solo... He was departing, I was embarking.
The first Crappie I ever saw came from there. Just a few moons (years and years) back...
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i've eaten em, not to bad, but far from the best. i know the eagles love em come hardwater ;D
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white perch, no problem. yellow perch, no way.
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hey k.p. what do ya think if they come down next month we can send them home with a cooler full of king's and coho's for every cooler full of perch they bring us ::) :whistling:
Sounds good to me you meet me half way.
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Sounds good to me you meet me half way.
give me a time and date and you got a deal cooler full of perch is like having prime rib in my eye's
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give me a time and date and you got a deal cooler full of perch is like having prime rib in my eye's
THIS RIGHT HERE IS A NET OF GOLD WHICH LEADS TOOOO
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That Looks GOOD!!!!!! Your making me HUNGRY!!!!
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give me a time and date and you got a deal cooler full of perch is like having prime rib in my eye's
THIS RIGHT HERE IS A NET OF GOLD WHICH LEADS TOOOO
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I will let you know I will PM you a date and time. I live about 14 hours away, but am willing to meet half way.
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14 hours ??? is that how long it takes to get to Mars ??? ;D
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white perch, no problem. yellow perch, no way.
Yellow perch good to eat, white perch good for garden fertilizer.
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come over to cross or long lake in n. maine. can fill a pickup bed full of em in a day. big ones too! got a 16in. 2 winters ago on a 5in. smelt! thought i had a good trout. hazzy knows where i caught it. no limit on them up here. be glad to bring you out . easy access. can walk out there come mid/late march.
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come over to cross or long lake in n. maine. can fill a pickup bed full of em in a day. big ones too! got a 16in. 2 winters ago on a 5in. smelt! thought i had a good trout. hazzy knows where i caught it. no limit on them up here. be glad to bring you out . easy access. can walk out there come mid/late march.
might just be a plan there jacksmelt oh ya and paradise is a 25 pd salmon on a 6/7 wght fly rod :blink:
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hey killer save me a seat if you end up going up there. lets go get a truck load ;D ;D
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hey killer save me a seat if you end up going up there. lets go get a truck load ;D ;D
ht we gotta work on putting together a road trip maybe 4-5 of us go up for a weekend help these maine guy's out with there perch problem's they can have all the white's we just want the yellow's ;D
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ht we gotta work on putting together a road trip maybe 4-5 of us go up for a weekend help these maine guy's out with there perch problem's they can have all the white's we just want the yellow's ;D
We will gather up all the kids and we CAN fill your truck with as many yellow perch as you want. We even have a booby prize for the most perch during the annual Long lake ice derby. You can catch over 100 in an hour seen it done.
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ht we gotta work on putting together a road trip maybe 4-5 of us go up for a weekend help these maine guy's out with there perch problem's they can have all the white's we just want the yellow's ;D
Sounds good to me! lets see who else is up for a road trip ;D
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Sounds good to me! lets see who else id up for a road trip ;D
The place I would take you has no whites just tons of yellows, brookies, cusk, and salmon
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I guess you guys must be eating the filets, some say the eggs are better than the filets. Maybe you are eating the wrong part of the fish, eat the eggs send us the filets.
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cny
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We will gather up all the kids and we CAN fill your truck with as many yellow perch as you want. We even have a booby prize for the most perch during the annual Long lake ice derby. You can catch over 100 in an hour seen it done.
I would definitely head a few hours north to help out too. ;D
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I would definitely head a few hours north to help out too. ;D
All is welcome, the more the better. We could even have a big fire on the ice and roast some!
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I've been reading this from the get go, and now I'm also starting to get interested in a road trip!
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guess we better charter a bus to maine :w00t: :rotflol: :w00t:
you guy's wont have a perch over 8 inch's left in maine when we get done :w00t: :rotflol: :w00t:
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guess we better charter a bus to maine :w00t: :rotflol: :w00t:
you guy's wont have a perch over 8 inch's left in maine when we get done :w00t: :rotflol: :w00t:
Thats what we are hoping for. We are looking foward to it.
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I will let you know I will PM you a date and time. I live about 14 hours away, but am willing to meet half way.
wait 14 hours away i can make it tennesee in 16 hours you cant be 14 hours from new york ???
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Yea, and all the salmon and those things they call touge we catch we can feed to the eagles... :-[ :-[ :-[
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give me a time and date and you got a deal cooler full of perch is like having prime rib in my eye's
THIS RIGHT HERE IS A NET OF GOLD WHICH LEADS TOOOO
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A MEAL FOR A KING
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Killer did you steal my net again??? I'd like it back!! ;D--KP Man, my mouth is watering!!!! :P
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Killer did you steal my net again??? I'd like it back!! ;D--KP Man, my mouth is watering!!!! :P
well you were not using it so i had to it was laying next to f.m.'s box of tackle :w00t: :rotflol: :w00t: :whistling:
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What's he got for perch bait in that tackle box Killer????--KP Trying to get a headsup before the trip to Maine!! ;D
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What's he got for perch bait in that tackle box Killer????--KP Trying to get a headsup before the trip to Maine!! ;D
frosting sprinkle's jelly filling oh you said tackle box i thought you said lunch box :w00t: :rotflol:
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NOT His lunch box, But, If he leaves that 1/2 baloney sandwich in there any longer...... He'll have some killer spikes to fish with!!!! ;D--KP 8)
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NOT His lunch box, But, If he leaves that 1/2 baloney sandwich in there any longer...... He'll have some killer spikes to fish with!!!! ;D--KP 8)
is he still feasting on that center cut baloney man he live's the high life :w00t:
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He had a jar of GREY POUPON' in there too!!! LMAO!!--KP 8)
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Is that what they are doing ??? they want our posts ??? ??? OMG LMAO ;D ;D ;D
Yup.. This should put them a head by now...
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ALRIGHT You NYers, No more talking to the MAINE Boys until they deliver the goods!!!!! PERCH that is!!!! LOL!!--KP ;D
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wait 14 hours away i can make it tennesee in 16 hours you cant be 14 hours from new york ???
7-8 hours away for me in southern Maine.
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Perch after Perch !! thats sounds like a good long weekend trip !
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This thread caught my eye also. Sounds very interesting. Any idea on the cost of a non-resident fishing license?
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Found it.
Nonresident Season Fishing (16 and older) - $64.00
15-Day Fishing (16 & older) - $47.00
7-Day Fishing (16 & older) - $43.00
3-Day (72-hour) Fishing (16 & older) - $23.00
1-Day (24 hour) Fishing (16 & older) - $11.00
Junior Fishing (12-15 years) - $16.00
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You beat me to it. ;D
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Found it.
Nonresident Season Fishing (16 and older) - $64.00
15-Day Fishing (16 & older) - $47.00
7-Day Fishing (16 & older) - $43.00
3-Day (72-hour) Fishing (16 & older) - $23.00
1-Day (24 hour) Fishing (16 & older) - $11.00
Junior Fishing (12-15 years) - $16.00
thanks for that information. i think thats a fair price for a weekend trip. Killer/KP lets make this happen in later march when our ice gets bad down here. that would be a great time to extend our ice season for sure. i look forward to meeting some of these maine guys. sounds like good times to me. maybe we cat Snagger to go with us. thanks for the invite guys.
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might just be a plan there jacksmelt oh ya and paradise is a 25 pd salmon on a 6/7 wght fly rod :blink:
only wish we had em' up here that big. yeah come on up. can bring you to a new lake everyday. better plan on alot of bait and a couple cases of red bull to keep up. you cant keep em off you lines. thats just tip ups. throw in some nice brookies in the mix and some great weather and its one hell of a day!
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wait 14 hours away i can make it tennesee in 16 hours you cant be 14 hours from new york ???
depending where in new york you are going thru canada is usually the shortest if youre coming to n. maine
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7-8 hours away for me in southern Maine.
Presque Isle to Sodus point NY was 14 hours just got back on Monday.
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Make sure I'm part of this as I was the one who started this thread. I would love to get out a meet some other Maine and NY fishermen. We could have a hell of a time.
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Awesome result of a post guys!!! Always wanted to go to Maine to ice fish, we talk about it all the time when on the ice here.
I can believe 14 hours, my sister in law lived in northern Maine. Drove to her house once, was just over 12 hours.
I'm between Albany and Platsburg. I'm over two hours from Pulaski.
Still would be a great time, and worth any drive.
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drive 14 hours to catch perch? ???
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drive 14 hours to catch perch? ???
you bet ya we will :cookoo: :cookoo: ;D
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drive 14 hours to catch perch? ???
I'd drive 14 hours to get away from the perch. ;D 8)
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pretty much the only fish i eat out of the pond out front and they stock bows and brood salmon, i prefer the yellow perch. heres some with rings and ketchup, lets hear it from all you anti ketchup folks ;D
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KETCHUP---YUCK.
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Awesome result of a post guys!!! Always wanted to go to Maine to ice fish, we talk about it all the time when on the ice here.
I can believe 14 hours, my sister in law lived in northern Maine. Drove to her house once, was just over 12 hours.
I'm between Albany and Platsburg. I'm over two hours from Pulaski.
Still would be a great time, and worth any drive.
Total driving time was around 12 hours but stopping to eat, we did take a quick spin over to the beach to see if it was worth trying to hit for stripers, then waited outside cabellas for 1/2 hour.
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I go away for a day and you start this crap up!!!! perch are for eagles only!!! sea gulls even turn their nose up on em (got pictures!)I dont eat those worm infested things! at the banquet I picked out the perch! but if ya want to really get perch come on up got a few lakes we'd love to see em gone from I do my part in eliminating all I can we have derbys approved by the State of maine some with nice prizes for the most killed last one up here think was 250+ by one person bring your bags up ya can follow around on the ice and get your fill I dont take em home EVER!
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I go away for a day and you start this crap up!!!! perch are for eagles only!!! sea gulls even turn their nose up on em (got pictures!)I dont eat those worm infested things! at the banquet I picked out the perch! but if ya want to really get perch come on up got a few lakes we'd love to see em gone from I do my part in eliminating all I can we have derbys approved by the State of maine some with nice prizes for the most killed last one up here think was 250+ by one person bring your bags up ya can follow around on the ice and get your fill I dont take em home EVER!
No leaving them on the ice anymore. Thats one of your trips you won,t have to do.
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Nice. Welcome Team NY. Take all the perch you want. A few years ago i put my nephew onto a pile of them. this pic represents probably about a quarter of all we caught in a few hourse before the SuperBowl. I filleted these up and gave them to a friend from wisconsin. He was stoked. Nephew was as well.
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Well, i guess you won;t see the pile until i figure out posting pics... :-\
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Better...
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Wow thats a nice pile of fish. are there worms in the meat or are they pretty clean ???
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Not sure. this is the first time i cut them up. It was during the winter, and i didn't see one worm. But, i hear that is to be expected during the winter...
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i can not belive that you guys dont eat perch. here in NY people will give there left nut for fish like that. i spend a lot of my ice fishing season chaseing those and monster blue gills. i would love to get up there this year. we will be working on a trip for sure. let us know if any of you guys decide to come down for some of these mud sharks that will be running the river soon. we will send you home with a truck load if you want them ;D ;D
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i can not belive that you guys dont eat perch. here in NY people will give there left nut for fish like that. i spend a lot of my ice fishing season chaseing those and monster blue gills. i would love to get up there this year. we will be working on a trip for sure. let us know if any of you guys decide to come down for some of these mud sharks that will be running the river soon. we will send you home with a truck load if you want them ;D ;D
Wish I would have known I just got back from lake Ontario. We did boat one nice king but would have loved some "mud sharks"
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they are still out in the lake right now. another couple of weeks they will start pouring into the river. first or second week of october is normally prime time. keep an eye on the salmon river thread. ;)
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they are still out in the lake right now. another couple of weeks they will start pouring into the river. first or second week of october is normally prime time. keep an eye on the salmon river thread. ;)
will these fish have holes in them :)
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no guns on the river allowed so no bullet holes. just full of fish hooks ;D
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Better wear armour gloves, there will be all sorts of sharp things hanging out of them!! They kinda look like x-mas ornaments once they get upriver aways!!! ;D--KP
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will these fish have holes in them :)
I heard about the old times when they would use the pitch forks to scoop the fish out of the river.
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Any validity to this info TRAPPER?? ;D--KP
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I ate some last week,they are fine. We were fishing for white perch and got a few yellows. We don't see yellow perch big enough to fillet here that often. I bought a $18 electric bread knife from Wally world and made short order of 35-40 fish. I have eaten them sense I was a kid.
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No leaving them on the ice anymore. Thats one of your trips you won,t have to do.
not 100% true still can besides thats what the bioligist want
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not 100% true still can besides thats what the bioligist want
What no more leaving them on the ice???
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No leaving them on the ice of public water supplies
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No leaving them on the ice of public water supplies
well that there is one of the loopholes lol the major lakes I hit are not classified as public water supply then there is always stomp them send to the bottom on those lakes or can be coyote bait......list and loop holes endless all is good if ya make em dead
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You can always save them up to throw at an Otter Lodge ice shack. :evil: Duck Hazzy
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well that there is one of the loopholes lol the major lakes I hit are not classified as public water supply then there is always stomp them send to the bottom on those lakes or can be coyote bait......list and loop holes endless all is good if ya make em dead
:nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono:--KP ;D
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ya want em come get em! ya can even have the pile Ill be leaving on the ice! but also they give many hours of entertanment! perch darts perch hockey....... just to name 2 of the wonderful games to play!Ok BTW here is the photo of the dump duck sticking his nose up at perch!
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You are a very funny man Hazzy!!!!! :D Looks like a slow day out there to me!! Tightlines!--KP
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HEY!!!!! FLAG DOWN :rotflol: :w00t: :rotflol: :w00t: :rotflol: :w00t: :afro:
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Just goes to show how stupid Rats with Wings are!!!--KP ;D
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How did I manage to get rolled in the barrel for so long an a Maine thread, that I never even posted on?? Wow. Oh yeah perch are King here, and I've yet to get one down here with grubs or worms.
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I had to go back aways.... and stil don't see you rolling in any barrel FM!! :cookoo: You got a conscience or something????LMAO!!--KP 8)
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I had to go back aways.... and stil don't see you rolling in any barrel FM!! :cookoo: You got a conscience or something????LMAO!!--KP 8)
Go back to page 4, when you and Killer got going on the rampage..... I did LMAO, but just saying.....You guys threw me in the barrel on a Maine thread, ya boneheads. Notice, HT stayed out of that one? He knows what is fair property. OH...by the way , that tire quote just went up 15%..... Darn economy! :w00t: :whistling:
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Go back to page 4, when you and Killer got going on the rampage..... I did LMAO, but just saying.....You guys threw me in the barrel on a Maine thread, ya boneheads. Notice, HT stayed out of that one? He knows what is fair property. OH...by the way , that tire quote just went up 15%..... Darn economy! :w00t: :whistling:
What did you bring for lunch!!!???? ;D ::) 8)
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OHHHHHHHH YEAHHHHHHH!!! I remember now!!!! LMAO!! That darn Killer was at it again... and got me going at it it again!!! You can raise that tire price 25% if you want..... Walmart was 15% less than you!!!! :w00t: I won't need tires soon! Just Kidding FM :P--KP ;D
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Guess I'm gonna have to make ya eat some more of them undesirable yellow jack perch! ;D
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geeze blame me for everything bunch of spineless girl's :blink:
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Killer made me do it!!! There.... not spineless!! :flex:--KP 8)