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Title: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: reelcharacter on Mar 12, 2004, 12:38 AM
So where are the experts on catching Crayfish?

How do you catch them, is there a trap you have made? How about a picture?

How do you keep them and how long can you keep them for? Do you feed them while "raising" them for fishing.

What is your best way to fish with them?

This duffer has netted a few from streams. Have never "trapped" them before or kept them for more than a week or so. In fishing them I have found them to be good used whole for larger game fish, with parts of the Crayfish good for panfish and even stream trout.

-Reelcharacter
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: HIMO on Mar 12, 2004, 08:09 AM
here in wisconsin you can not fish with live crawfish. i guess it is so no exotic species are introduced to the waters.I take the crabtail and peel it and use the meat for perch fishing. works great.

                                                 HIMO
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: Cider on Mar 12, 2004, 08:57 AM
(https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg31.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv94%2FCider%2Ftrapgroup.jpg&hash=0e0497e8220d8954eb5e3f37845cba2a)

I have the one on the left for crawfish and the one in the middle for minnows.  Paid under $5.00 each for them.

I use a can of wet catfood (fishy flavor like sardine, tuna, or ocean whitefish).  Punch a bunch of holes in the can with a nail and put it in the bottom of the trap.  Toss it over into the river just like setting a minnow trap.

As far as fishing with crawfish.  I use a 1/4 - 1/2 oz jig head and hook the crawfish through the shell right on the back.  Be careful not to go too deep or you will kill it.  Then just jig it along by bouncing it on the bottom or swim it just off the bottom in your favorite bass waters!

Everytime I use live crawfish the bass hit it almost as soon as it hits the water.  I swear they push past each other to be the first to get to my bait!  ;D
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: suskymusky on Mar 12, 2004, 09:22 AM
I catch most of my bait by mugging them.I look for a riffle section of the river and select a rock about the size of a paper plate.I slowly lift the back of the rock and slide my hands under the rock blocking their escape.I feel around for stonecats and hellgramites .If I find something I slowly cup my hands and pin it to the top of the rock. If I take my time I can get it without getting stung.I hold stonecats loosely and let their pectoral fins slip between my fingers. I grab hellgrammites by the collar and crayfish  by the claws so I dont get pinched .You can also get them by shore by slowly lifting rocks, so you don't muddy the water too much.When the crawfish tries to get away put one hand  or a minnownet behind it so it goes backwards right into it.Takes some practice.I store hellgrammites in damp burlap.I keep several buckets of water that I put rocks and PVC sections in for cover.I run one aerator and split it with tees and extra tubing. I keep different baits separate so they don't kill each other.I feed them goldfish flakes  and dead minnows once in a while.
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: reelcharacter on Mar 12, 2004, 11:04 AM
Cider,

Thanks for the pic. I have the same or a similar minnow trap, was $6-$7.00 from WalMart. The tinker'er in me likes to make the gadgets I use, but for this small amount, the sensible thing is just to run out and buy one. May try using the minnow trap for crayfish this spring, or just look for the crayish style in a store. I have hoked the Crayfish through the tail, so when I skip him along the bottom, it looks as though it is flipping it's tail backward like it does when trying to escape.

-Reelcharacter
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: Cider on Mar 12, 2004, 11:09 AM
I have used my minnow trap for minnows and came up with nothing but crawfish, so I know it will work for that.

I will hook crawfish through the tail sometimes too.  That works pretty good if you want to swim them.
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: reelcharacter on Mar 12, 2004, 11:11 AM
here in wisconsin you can not fish with live crawfish. i guess it is so no exotic species are introduced to the waters.I take the crabtail and peel it and use the meat for perch fishing. works great.

                                                 HIMO

Hey there HIMO, greetings from NY State.

For large ones I have cut the crayfish in half with good results. The tails have been good for Perch and Panfish. The heads have caught Bass and other fish almost as well. I will have to try your "peel and eat shrimp" method.

-Reelcharacter
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: HIMO on Mar 12, 2004, 11:47 AM
try it out. it works real well for me. I learned that from my grandfather.

                                 HIMO
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: mike692 on Mar 13, 2004, 03:56 PM
I've caught alot of crayfish in regular funnel type minnow traps. I imagine a chicken neck or fish head would work great for bait.
I have kept them for weeks in my aquarium. I could have kept them longer, but my channel cat ate them ;D

BTW crawdads are delicious. Steam them til they're red and dip the tail meat in melted butter. mmmmmmmm
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: seaweed01 on Mar 13, 2004, 04:14 PM
A good bait to use for minnows in the trap is a
small handfull of dry cat or dog food. It works much
better than bread, cheese, etc. than anything I have
ever used.
I have found a good bait for crabs is a small "fresh"
fish of any type in the crabtrap. I've had a lot better
luck with fresh vs smelly bait for them.
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: acsacmboy on Mar 14, 2004, 07:38 PM
i am thankful i have a small creek 20 yards behind our house. i catch them using a net or by hand. can catch about a hundred if im trying in a few hours. keep them only if you are going to fish with them. keep the ones you accidentally crush because you can still use them.let the big and small ones go, depending on what your quarry is. great bait for smallmouth's
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: kerosenecounty17 on Mar 15, 2004, 06:03 PM
Alright, now I've gotta try it.  I'll be eating them, not using them for bait.  I've always heard they're delicious, and as much as I love other shellfish I just have to try them.  Here's my question - where should I set the traps?  Lake type, bottom content, depth, etc.?  Most of the lakes in my area have very silty/soft bottoms, so I might have a problem with the trap sinking into the mud.  Thanks for any help.

kero
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: reelcharacter on Mar 15, 2004, 11:33 PM
I knew someone who had one of those deep (3-4 feet) gentle meandering streams that flowed into the bay of a larger lake. This location I guess provided him a supply of as many crayfish as he wanted, whenever he placed a baited trap inthe stream for a while in the cloudy water.

Have not tried eating them, but may have to do so this summer. My son and some friends went to the Adirondacks a couple of years ago, where he tried some he caught there. I do not know how good they were, he has not gone back for seconds . . .

Reelcharacter
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: Cider on Mar 16, 2004, 08:04 AM
Most of the lakes in my area have very silty/soft bottoms, so I might have a problem with the trap sinking into the mud.  Thanks for any help.

kero


I would think that if you use the cat food can for bait in your trap, that will give you the weight to hold it down.  To keep it from sinking (as long as there isn't a strong current) try keep the lanyard rope as tight as possible.  Just balance out the resistance of the can of cat food!  I think that should work okay for you.
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: Mackdaddy21 on Apr 02, 2004, 12:10 AM
A good, cheap trap is to take an empty milk jug, fill it with meat, and set it on the bottom of the lake or river near the bank, and keep it down with rocks or bury it. The crayfish will enter the milk jug, and not be able to get out. I also just walk rocky shoals at night and look for crawfish to scoop up with a small net.

Tyler
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: Somers on Apr 02, 2004, 04:45 PM
Reelcharacter,

For the tinkerer in you

A 3 liter bottle w/ the top cut off and inverted and simply stapled all around works as good as the minnow traps too.  You can double the length by doing it to 2, taking the bottoms off and making a 1" slice in the bottom of one of them.  Just duct tape the middle after baiting and drop it in.  I've drilled holes around the bottles to allow better scent flow from it and allow for drainage when removing from the water.
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: Jigwiggler on Apr 02, 2004, 05:04 PM
      I know that crawfish are great bait, but I have never used them.  Some of the places I fish in NY people swear by them.  I've heard of hooking them through the tails before.

 Cider, you said you hook them through the back.  Paralell or perpendicular to the body?  Front to back or back to front?

 I used to net stone catys at night and would catch 300 - 500 crawfish in an hour in the process.  I just threw them back.  I'm typically not a bait fisherman, but I am always eager to broaden my fishing knowledge.  I'll have to give them a shot this summer.

On another note, when baiting a trap for minnows try uncooked macaroni.  Works great and lasts a long time.  It will soften in the water.
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: Cider on Apr 02, 2004, 07:47 PM
  Cider, you said you hook them through the back.  Paralell or perpendicular to the body?  Front to back or back to front?

Parallel with the body.  Start the hook point in from the rear of the the thorax and go towards the head leaving the hook point up.  When the fish hits it you should get a good hook-up almost everytime.  Be carefull not to go deeper than the shell/exoskeleton.  You don't want to hit a nerve or vital organ and kill your bait.  I am sure dead crawfish will work, but the work better when they can still swim and crawl!

I also hook them in the very end of the tail or even through a claw.

There must be other ways that guys hook these critters.  Anyone else have any suggestions?
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: reelcharacter on Apr 02, 2004, 11:05 PM
Thanks for the tinker-er suggestions. I will likely try a couple of the ideas this April (weekend of the 24th - 25th) when our boy scout troop camps out to do community service in a local park for Earthday. I teach the fishing merit badge and get in a little afternoon and night fishing. The ideas will be good to show to the boys as something they could make.

I am thinking of a wire style trap with openings allowing crayfish to enter from all directions to enter the trap. Figure this will be an improvement over most trap styles I have seen. Plus, I will not have to put signs around the trap directing crayfish to the front door.  :)

-Reelcharacter
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: Somers on Apr 03, 2004, 09:24 AM
Reel, the wire traps are easy too.  You just need a piece to act as a ramp at a 45* angle to the opening heading inside and toward the top of the trap.  Once they fall inside they're baffled by the door.  I've made overnight blue claw crab traps the same way, just larger.

Cider, a sure way not to kill the crayfish is to use a small rubberband that an orthodontist gives to patients for braces.  They're tight enough to hold the bait on the hook well and you can keeep them alive all day on the hook...  Until a nice bass inhales them that is.   ;)
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: TroutFishingBear on Apr 03, 2004, 02:20 PM
set traps in a lake where there are a lot of rocks, dams are the best.

I swear by fried chicken for the bait for crayfish, they all fight to get to it and I will get a FULL trap.

I like using the tail only for catfish, works quite well.

I also have so many crayfish in the lakes around here that we can't put our fish on the stringer or it will be eaten within 15 minutes. Put the fish in the water, then pull it out, 5 crayfish are on it :o

FRIED CHICKEN IN TRAPS IN THE ROCKS OFF OF A DAM
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: reelcharacter on Apr 03, 2004, 11:57 PM
TroutFishingBear,

Whe're you from? From Central NY here.

-Reelcharacter
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: got em on Apr 04, 2004, 09:06 PM
 ;) I wade a local stream and catch around 6 or 7 dz ..use them all on smallmouth in the mohawk...then go back to conroys and buy 5 more dz..go back and use them..fatty smallies forever.. ;)
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: Jigwiggler on Apr 06, 2004, 06:49 AM

Parallel with the body.  Start the hook point in from the rear of the the thorax and go towards the head leaving the hook point up.

Cider, a sure way not to kill the crayfish is to use a small rubberband that an orthodontist gives to patients for braces.  They're tight enough to hold the bait on the hook well and you can keeep them alive all day on the hook...  Until a nice bass inhales them that is.   ;)

Thanks for the tips !!
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: howey1176 on Apr 06, 2004, 05:51 PM
To catch them I use a bait net and position it behind them. Give them a scare and they back right into it. I've never really been to successful while fishing with them.
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: Doover on Apr 06, 2004, 09:29 PM
The best bait ever for me was fudge cake topping I found in the cupboard.The Monster went nuts when she found it missing. ::) At least the crawfish where happy with me. Great idea with those small rubber bands.
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Apr 14, 2004, 07:21 PM
I fish with crawfish on occasion for Smallmouths in rivers and have never tried them for Trout although I've caught a lot of Wild Brown trout on spinners whose stomachs were PACKED full of them, as many as 5 or 6. An Old Timer I knew showed me some hooks he made up just for fishing Crawfish. All he did was take a long shank hook and short length of fine uncoated copper electrical wire,(about 3" or so) and wrap it one time around the hook shank about midway and place a small drop of solder on top of the wire to hold it in place. Wrap the wire around the crawfish, give it a few twists and away you go! He would make up a dozen or so at a time and replace them as needed.  WK  ;)
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: Trapper Arne on Apr 26, 2004, 11:23 AM
Hi Reel Character!
Experts on catching crayfish? How do you define an expert? I have caught 25,000 crayfish in Arizona over the years, but I doubt that makes me an expert. Talk to Terry Bullard. He is an expert over in WA.

But I have some advice. Some of my advice you can read on my web page, www.trapperarne.com.
But here is some immediate advice. Trapping catches much more than any other method I know of. Kids get a kick out of going along the shore with a pole, string and some bait. In a good lake, that will get you quite a few crayfish. But, believe me, if you want some quantity, you need traps. I seldom go out with less than 10 traps to keep myself supplied with crayfish for a few dinners each month. Last summer I spent three days - and nights - at a lake in the mountains and with ten traps I caught over one thousand large crayfish.

I make my own traps - and sell some too - and the best bait in  my opinion is some fish, preferably fat, oily fish like salmon of maybe mackerel. Although for years I was happy using chicken parts, wings, necks and such, with great success.

I have plenty of pictures of my traps on my web page, so look there for pictures of both my own traps and some I import from Sweden.

Good Luck to you Reel Character.

Trapper Arne


So where are the experts on catching Crayfish?

How do you catch them, is there a trap you have made? How about a picture?

How do you keep them and how long can you keep them for? Do you feed them while "raising" them for fishing.

What is your best way to fish with them?

This duffer has netted a few from streams. Have never "trapped" them before or kept them for more than a week or so. In fishing them I have found them to be good used whole for larger game fish, with parts of the Crayfish good for panfish and even stream trout.

-Reelcharacter
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: fastribs85 on May 13, 2004, 09:56 PM
i just use a net or a paper cup and get behind them as i lift rocks in a few different streasm have a trap but havent used it yet  but i can never keep them alive for more then an hour or two no matter what i try someone told me damp moss and someone else said damp newspaper any suggestions
 ???
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: Trophy Hunter639 on May 16, 2004, 02:33 PM
I catch most of my bait by mugging them.I look for a riffle section of the river and select a rock about the size of a paper plate.I slowly lift the back of the rock and slide my hands under the rock blocking their escape.I feel around for stonecats and hellgramites .If I find something I slowly cup my hands and pin it to the top of the rock. If I take my time I can get it without getting stung.I hold stonecats loosely and let their pectoral fins slip between my fingers. I grab hellgrammites by the collar and crayfish  by the claws so I dont get pinched .You can also get them by shore by slowly lifting rocks, so you don't muddy the water too much.When the crawfish tries to get away put one hand  or a minnownet behind it so it goes backwards right into it.Takes some practice.I store hellgrammites in damp burlap.I keep several buckets of water that I put rocks and PVC sections in for cover.I run one aerator and split it with tees and extra tubing. I keep different baits separate so they don't kill each other.I feed them goldfish flakes  and dead minnows once in a while.
                                                                                                                                         Hey susky are you a noodler? ;D
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: Muddvein on May 17, 2004, 06:13 PM
best place to find them is a rocky bottom. just tie a length of cord around a chicken leg throw it in the drink and fish for a little while. go back every now and again and check the chicken leg. you should get a few every time you haul it up. there's something about the chicken leg that drives them nuts. they will be too busy fight over and eating the leg they won't even notice until you drop them in the bucket.i've filled a five gallon bucket in about five hours and i was fishin so i got to bring home a couple of nice keeper smallies to boot.
                                                                 Muddvein
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: reelcharacter on May 29, 2004, 11:56 PM
Trapper Arne,

GREAT Website!!!

I look forward to spending some more time looking around it in more detail in the next couple of days. (I christen you an official expert in my book).

-Reelcharacter
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: Trapper Arne on Sep 08, 2004, 12:05 PM
So where are the experts on catching Crayfish?

How do you catch them, is there a trap you have made? How about a picture?

How do you keep them and how long can you keep them for? Do you feed them while "raising" them for fishing.

What is your best way to fish with them?

This duffer has netted a few from streams. Have never "trapped" them before or kept them for more than a week or so. In fishing them I have found them to be good used whole for larger game fish, with parts of the Crayfish good for panfish and even stream trout.

-Reelcharacter
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: Reelmaster on Jun 01, 2005, 12:07 AM
When we were kids I used to craw fish all the time. Not with traps though. We used a piece of rope and a chunk of a hotdog on the end. The craw fish would grab on to the hotdog and wouldnt let go. You had to pull them up slowly to get them. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: Trophy Hunter639 on Jun 01, 2005, 09:29 AM
Reelmaster TJ's eh  ;D We did the same thing too tasty little guys mmm......
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: MikeVT on Jun 01, 2005, 11:20 AM
I have used them for trout fishing and the big ones love crayfish.  Most of the fish I catch over 20" always have a few in their stomachs.  However, I usually catch 50-100 at a time from a few small streams in my area, and boil those little buggers up.  Eat them with butter or Hot sauce, those cajuns are definitely onto something.
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: Reelmaster on Aug 19, 2005, 05:47 PM
Ok this sounds wierd but true. Last night I was fishing and was getting little bites. I reeled in and caught a craw fish on a frog. Tried a minnow and the same thing happened. Switched to worms and ditto. I couldn't believe my eyes. I caught 20 crawfish and every other cast the bait was clawed. They were aggressive because they would hold on for a 25 yard reeling.  :o :o :o Trying again tonight. What species like crawfish. We dont have bass where I was fishing  so any other species that might be on a feeding frenzy  ???. What do you think guys. Maybe I am fishing for the wrong species.  ;D Oh well try again and see. 8)
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: AD on Aug 19, 2005, 08:02 PM
Ok this sounds wierd but true. Last night I was fishing and was getting little bites. I reeled in and caught a craw fish on a frog. Tried a minnow and the same thing happened. Switched to worms and ditto. I couldn't believe my eyes. I caught 20 crawfish and every other cast the bait was clawed. They were aggressive because they would hold on for a 25 yard reeling.  :o :o :o Trying again tonight. What species like crawfish. We dont have bass where I was fishing  so any other species that might be on a feeding frenzy  ???. What do you think guys. Maybe I am fishing for the wrong species.  ;D Oh well try again and see. 8)

A couple channel cats I have cut open and even a few of the walleye/sauger have had crawfish in them, nad not just 1 but 2 or three sometimes
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: Water Wolf on Sep 16, 2005, 01:31 PM
Reelmaster, I know that certain time of the year when the crayfish molt they are a target for most of the predatory fish in the lakes or rivers. In my area I know that pike and walleye really like them, as do big trout, never tried the live ones though, the rubber ones sure do work. :)
 
 WW
Title: Re: Crayfish Catching, Keeping and Fishing
Post by: brookiebandit13 on Jan 06, 2007, 09:26 PM
My suggestion is buy a 20.00 crawdad trap at wal mart or bass pro or cabelas and use dead chubs or any meat for that matter in a holy deli cup




Brookie Bandit