WTG Mark. Nice of you putting me on the fish. Guess next time I go I will be on the water by 5:30am. Ended up with one more keeper eye I got while trolling to the ramp. 8 feet. Ended up with 3 crappie 1 gill a cat and 2 eyes. Had caught one early that was 1/8 inch short. Once that wind let up it just died.