TROUT-POND OR STREAM

[RIVERRAT2]

we all know about water temp./right???
but me i love the streams,now i have to fish ponds most
times,AGE, but i just LOVE to fish that stream with flys and spinners
i am better with spinners,BUT i have fished the salmon creek by
blue mt.[outlet for salmon lake] i nailed a ton of brookies on WORMS
to me what ever it takes[ALL C/R] but that is just me,now to think
about that type of fishing[the muck,beavers and their dams,bugs
i think i am old,NO WAY CAN I DO THAT NOW,I WOULD NEED 911??
 
RAT

[gotabig1]

Why do you think the Brookies in Maine get so much bigger than ours? I think their state record is 9 lbs. or so and I see lots of pics w/ chunky Brookies from small water. Where a 12 in. From ADK. Water is close to top. I wonder if pH too high is the reason or a combination of factors

[RIVERRAT2]

to me and maybe only me, I donot think there is only one reason
for brookies to get big they need,monoculture water,FOOD, water temp.
 and waters with drop downs, there may be others
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WHAT THEY DONOT NEED is bucket biologist, tree huggers, and fishing pressure
one of the BIG reasons you see little brookies, most are stocked by n.y
these brookies[like the crown point strain] are genetically changed to make
them do well in the hatcherys so they can be stocked in our waters these
fish have a SHORT live and do not do well in a non hatchery water.
plus   pollutions,[air or water]
 
RAT

[RIVERRAT2]

YES.i know i didnot answer it right, but when did they get the 9# and where
you know that N.Y. has a brooky from long island[carmans river that went 14# and 8oz.]
to me the answer is LOTS of water few fishers for maine
and LOTS different for n.y.
RAT
 

[filetandrelease]

holy smokes that,s the same weight as the world record caught by Dr. cook in 1916 , was that the old record in NY they booted and replaced with the present one ?

[gotabig1]

Thanks Rat.  With the quality of our Adk water slowly improving the fishing should too.   A friend of mine fishes the Connetquat and raves about the big trout he gets. Are those fish ocean run. I just never pictured Long Island being a big trout hot spot.

[RIVERRAT2]

THINK ABOUT IT,you are a fish the water is warm little food where
are you going[DOWN RIVER] where the cool-deep-water is PLUS THE
FOOD. and you know in the hudson river we donot have many creeks
that you can get to the headwaters,THINK, you will be a better fisher
 
RAT

[RIVERRAT2]

Thanks Rat.  With the quality of our Adk water slowly improving the fishing should too.   A friend of mine fishes the Connetquat and raves about the big trout he gets. Are those fish ocean run. I just never pictured Long Island being a big trout hot spot.

I DONOT know,CAN they get to deep water where the food is.the fishing in the ADK. should be
become GREAT[TO me the ponds right now] R.PREALL[d.ec] has setforth our brookies.
to me his thought of native is the key.
 
RAT

[RIVERRAT2]

holy smokes that,s the same weight as the world record caught by Dr. cook in 1916 , was that the old record in NY they booted and replaced with the present one ?

COOK'S 14#8oz was a nipigon strain from the nipigon river canada,at the time of the catch[on a minnow]
they didnot know about WEBSTER'S 14# 8oz was in about 1845 and was not checked by ichthyoloist
but cook's was[cook's fish was 14 1/2#,31 1/2in long, girth 11 1/2in stated to be 1/2 the girth???
this is a DROP DOWN[THEY DROP DOWN TO BIGGER WATER,is a replica in office of ministry
THERE ARE PEOPLE who have  DONOT think wesber's fish was real,others do,several good articles
on this,field/stream,sports illustrated[1966], sports afield[1970] but me i think it is true, this is a
DROPDOWN STREAM, remember not on till 1895 did field/stream start keeping records.
 
RAT

[filetandrelease]

Interesting

[RIVERRAT2]

Interesting

WHAT DO YOU THINK?
TO ME I think that there are 10# brookies in N.Y.,I will not find them
you can, you need big water,food, few if any fishers.
 
RAT

[filetandrelease]

I to think there are 10 # bookies in NY , big water and an abundance of food

[MickeyFinn]

Id go out on a limb and say there are several brookies caught pushing 10lbs each year in NY, they go unreported, most of the die hard brook trout fisherman arent willing to give up the names of the places they catch fish over 20 inches to anyone let alone advertise the location in the record book..

[fishnmachine]

That's one of the quickest ways to kill a fishing hole.

[filetandrelease]

MickeyFinn I'm sure guys keep it quite look at ice shanty what has  happened to lakes that gets promoted on the internet  how much extra pressure they receive, something's are best kept silent