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MFF US Midwest => Indiana => Topic started by: aarogod on Apr 10, 2019, 04:44 PM
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So i've always been against a limit on the number of gills you are allowed per day. That is until a "buddy" of my dad's brought in 125, then 215 bluegills over the last 2 days. Many of these were 7" at best.
What a bleeping joke. Mike Hug you are the reason the law needs to be changed
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I agree it needs changed. A guy I know bragged about catching 1500 out of one lake until the fishing was not as good....and then started fishing in my county :'( Not that their my fish, but I would prefer he not take that many out of my favorite lake. I don't know why folks can't be happy with a decent catch of around 25 per person. It's plenty if you fish a little bit throughout the year.
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All for limits but most likely wouldn't slow the guys you're talking about down!
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All for limits but most likely wouldn't slow the guys you're talking about down!
Unfortunately I think your right. I try and do my best to change others thoughts about keeping so many fish or even the big ones. I try and throw back some big ones when I can. Some days the bite is kind of slow and you want to keep a few fish... Other times the bite is on fire and that's when I feel it's good to turn some of those big hogs loose and keep the eaters. Either way i try and act like i've been there before.
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I gave up worrying and being mad about this along time ago. I don't do it my self nor do my friends . No one can change it complaining about it. You just got to enjoy being out and get after it while you can !
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I agree it needs changed. A guy I know bragged about catching 1500 out of one lake until the fishing was not as good....and then started fishing in my county :'( Not that their my fish, but I would prefer he not take that many out of my favorite lake. I don't know why folks can't be happy with a decent catch of around 25 per person. It's plenty if you fish a little bit throughout the year.
Wow, 1500 is a lot of fish. Is that how many he kept or caught that many and only kept some?
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As I understood him... He and a couple of friends kept that many one spring out of the same lake. Then after the fishing declined after a couple of years of doing that their now onto a different lake. All bed fishing I believe. Which to me doesn't take a great amount of skill
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Wow, that's ridiculous. Not much skill to catch them like that. People like that need to be shot.
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So i've always been against a limit on the number of gills you are allowed per day. That is until a "buddy" of my dad's brought in 125, then 215 bluegills over the last 2 days. Many of these were 7" at best.
What a bleeping joke. Mike Hug you are the reason the law needs to be changed
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what? you didn't know that happened? that's common place to have 100 gills in a boat. I know some people that do it all summer long at hogback lake. and there are several others that do it there too. that doesn't bother me because they are so prolific. it just keeps giving up sacks of fish year after year. I do think we should have a spring bed season ban though.
I have no problem with keeping or how they catch fish. If they could get that many eaters in two days I'd guess that body of water won't effected at all. In fact it may actually help. What does bother me is when the fish are wasted. Rot in the bucket or just freezer burn to the point can't be used.
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I have no problem with keeping or how they catch fish. If they could get that many eaters in two days I'd guess that body of water won't effected at all. In fact it may actually help. What does bother me is when the fish are wasted. Rot in the bucket or just freezer burn to the point can't be used.
I agree, we keep a couple meals of fish in the freezer. I hate seeing fish wasted, because of size or not being edible cause they sat too long in the freezer.
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......I hate seeing fish wasted, because of size or not being edible cause they sat too long in the freezer.
Fish Chowder
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I agree with some sort of limit on panfish. I chase crappies all year and during the ice fishing season i see many anglers catching, and keeping, more than their limit. I feel 25 specs is a reasonable amount of fish to keep but apparently there are some who just need to catch more.
When i was much younger i remember seeing many “Old-Timers” simply throwing dinks out on the ice to “ weed out” the small ones. It always irritated me as i always figured those dinks could eventually become keepers.
I’m certainly not trying to zero in on ice fishing only but it was always much easier to see what was going on at that time of year.
So, back to limits. Perhaps do what Michigan does.... a 25 combined panfish limit. And i would not be against some sort of slot limit, to keep the breeders in the water.
In closing, no matter what does, or does not, get done must be monitored by the DNR. The last time i was checked was 2001 and i am out a lot. There needs to be a larger enforcement presence on the water(or ice) to let anglers know that the State is watching.
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Wow, that's a long time to not get checked. I was checked every weekend on one lake this summer, didn't get checked any this winter.
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What really gets me is you will find many of these fish hogs are too lazy to clean all those fish and give them away to people that don't buy fishing licenses. Had a lazy brother-in-law that would just dump them in a chest freezer and my sister would have to throw them out as they would pretty much freeze dry. All for bragging rights.
Thank God the SOB is not my bother-in-law anymore. And add to that it was Boy Scout camp lake he was overfishing. Took the dumb **** fishing once and I watched the anchor keep going because he didn't bother to tie it off.
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I agree thats a long time and that was on a large popular lake.
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I agree thats a long time and that was on a large popular lake.
Yea, times I thought they'd be checking this winter didn't happen, figured they'd hit the fishing derbies we were at.
What really gets me is you will find many of these fish hogs are too lazy to clean all those fish and give them away to people that don't buy fishing licenses. Had a lazy brother-in-law that would just dump them in a chest freezer and my sister would have to throw them out as they would pretty much freeze dry. All for bragging rights.
Thank God the SOB is not my bother-in-law anymore. And add to that it was Boy Scout camp lake he was overfishing. Took the dumb *** fishing once and I watched the anchor keep going because he didn't bother to tie it off.
That's sad, I'm all for bragging rights, but we like to eat them too and I'm not a fan of filleting for hours, so we only keep around 50, makes a nice meal for me and my boy.
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Hey, did you let Mike know your view no this matter, or are you just gonna b***h about it behind his back?? On social media none the less!!
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Hey, did you let Mike know your view no this matter, or are you just gonna b***h about it behind his back?? On social media none the less!!
You're d**n right I let him know, as did my dad........He said who gives a #%@# which is why i went public with it chief
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I gave up worrying and being mad about this along time ago. I don't do it my self nor do my friends . No one can change it complaining about it. You just got to enjoy being out and get after it while you can !
If no one complains about it, how will things ever get changed?
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It comes up every time we go through the rules change proposal but for some reason doesn't even seem to be considered.
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It comes up every time we go through the rules change proposal but for some reason doesn't even seem to be considered.
Need more people to contact dnr about it.
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Need more people to contact dnr about it.
True.
I'm thinking of putting together a paper that uses the INDNR's own data and the data of surrounding states to make a case for it. It appears the INDNR is still using the antiquated thinking that you can't over harvest bluegills and the less fish there are the more food to go around. The latest research I have seen shows it's more complicated than that, and you can overfish bluegills. I even saw that exact thing said in a survey on the Sylvan Lake chain years ago.
I produced a paper to produce the 18 inch size limit on brown trout in the Oliver Lake Chain years ago when we still had smelt and cisco in the lake chain, and the lake chain produced large trophy size browns up to 8 pounds. (One was found dead of natural causes on Oliver of 13 pounds, and Olin held the state record for brown trout until brown trout took hold in Lake Michigan. We wanted to allow the browns to live longer for a potential trophy fishery vs. the rainbows that are mostly put and take. This was in conjunction with NEITA which is now defunct. And I put one together another paper to make the case to reintroduce smelt that was turned down. I now know the main reason for that was the state wants to reestablish cisco in the lake chain, and smelt may be detrimental to the cisco, although they coexisted for decades until the state planted lake trout. I think it's pretty well accepted the lake trout decimated the smelt and cisco as it's very common knowledge in fisheries management surveys around the country.
Here are the two papers if anyone is curious. It would be nice along with people speaking up, if we had some kind of angler association to link to.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzfC2NBfqz05VndzWDlVblhiNjA/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzfC2NBfqz05bXFBakxVODVub00/view
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If no one complains about it, how will things ever get changed?
Actions speak louder then words
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A well wrote proposal along with a petition might be what it takes to get a limit put out there.
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I talked to a CO last year that told me that at the open meetings the majority of those present did not want a limit. I guess when it comes up again more of us who want a limit need to attend. We should be done with 5 gal. bucket limits.
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So we get a 25 limit. I want it go further. If you use a boat,20, and a thermometer, 15, and a fish finder, 10, and a motor, 5, and gps ,0, hang a trophy fish on the wall for bragging rights you are banned from fishing. Since I don't use any of these things to fish you have an unfair advantage over me and that just aint right. So I want the government to control what you do. Continue to encourage them, they love their power and will take every right your willing to give up and even more of the ones your not willing to give up. I practice take what I want and I don't waste what I take. Some days that's 10 and other days that's 40. I have also said before that I cook and give away fish to those who no longer have the ability to fish but love to eat those fresh caught gills. So that day my number could be 50( if I could get that lucky) So please be careful what you ask for and may a good time be had by all who love to fish.