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Title: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 08, 2010, 09:06 AM
this thread  is  dedicated  to  the old buzzards  flyfishing , flie tying and  beer  (heineken ,labatts, rolling rock only!) were old , were grumpy , and  we just wanna fish and  shoot the breeze
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 08, 2010, 12:07 PM
this thread  is  dedicated  to  the old buzzards  flyfishing , flie tying and  beer  (heineken ,labatts, rolling rock only!) were old , were grumpy , and  we just wanna fish and  shoot the breeze
You can take "Gas X" for that problem  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jun 08, 2010, 01:04 PM
Does it mean your old if on the second cast your fly disintegrates???
More often these days my fly is just open....
Pass the beer....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jun 08, 2010, 01:12 PM
You were reading my mind, what's left of it! My buddies and I (I'm the younin' at 69) just spent 6 days in Shinhopple(Roscoe/Downsville,NY) fly fishing, drinking and playing poker. (we did stop to eat and sleep.)
did my personal best landing 35 browns to 22 inches, mostly on dries, olive caddis,#16, Adams and pAdams,#16 to# 20, and gold beaded nymphs, both Hares ear and pheasent tail. Water was low but fishable. The East branch of the Delaware at Shinhopple was perfect at 50-53 degrees all week with good hatches. Got the bigger fish the the Willow and did ok in the Beaverkill. The 'kill was warm with measured temps in evening as high as 76. Tried to avoid that nightmare!I loved fishing a tandem rig with a #14 Rapidan as the strike indicator, dry fly and a gold beaded hare's ear as the nymph,size 16. Got fish on both flies, but the nymph outcaught the dry 4:1. Stayed at the Prpacton Cabins on the East Branch in Shinhopple. Great place, cabin, kitchen bath, beds and heat  right on the banks of the stream! Even won at poker!Everyone fly fished and got some!Should have fished a streamer, wooley bugger or muddler minnow but I just love my dries!Hatches included the black caddis, sulfurs, BWO, canuta, midges. Tight lines and enjoy a treasure!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 08, 2010, 03:09 PM
i have  fished  that section myself!  sounds like you had a  great time ! i am addicted to the dry  myself  i think it's seeing the rise  that does it,  nice area good friends and fish ....love is good ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 08, 2010, 05:32 PM
Well....
I'm only 60...but I'm a darn grumpy old fart, and I fly fish. More now than ever. I think it's my incompatibility with people in general (who don't fly fish) that's driving my growing addiction.

Personally. I'm quite happy to fit in ;D

And many thanks Trapper, for the help and additions to my collection.

Gamma...you're still a whelp and I've never heard of you with a fly rod in your chubby fingers...so....MYOB! ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 08, 2010, 06:19 PM
 :rotflol: :rotflol: sorry just pictured gamma with a flyline wrapped around him and a size 18 adams stuck in his ear , with that big old gamma smile, saying i ment to do that !!!!! :rotflol: :rotflol:

lol gamma  never change man  ...not sure whats bigger  your  humor,line of BS, or yer heart (knows  gamma  is  really a teddy bear specially to kids)

bet he hates me  saying that ;D



Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 08, 2010, 06:25 PM
I'm dyin' here Trapper :rotflol:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Stormy_NY on Jun 08, 2010, 06:57 PM
.That East Branch gets my goat everytime ...... No lie ... I was floating it one night and timed it perfect for a Coffin Fly hatch.  There were bugs everywhere ... NOT a rising fish to be had .....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jun 08, 2010, 07:30 PM
WOW me and RG finally agree on something? Gamma with a fly rod  ??? ??? not a good picture at at all ??? ::) ::) ::) :P :-\ 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 08, 2010, 07:49 PM
i have  fished  that section myself!  sounds like you had a  great time ! i am addicted to the dry  myself  i think it's seeing the rise  that does it,  nice area good friends and fish ....love is good ;D
Trapper.....at your age, you're envious of a stiff wind  :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D

.

Gamma...you're still a whelp and I've never heard of you with a fly rod in your chubby fingers...so....MYOB! ;D

RG
I mastered the fly rod at the age of 13 and then moved on to bigger and better things  :whistling: :whistling: ;D ;D ;D
  I used to be big time lumberjack too  ;D ;D ;D   Lived in the Sahara and Mojave Forest  ;D ;D ;D


I'm dyin' here Trapper :rotflol:

RG
Can I have your jig boxes ?   ;D ;D

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 08, 2010, 10:49 PM
gamma  lets compare  drivers licences lol  your  older then me!!!!!  and at 13  "master"  had nothing to do with  fly  fishing  =))
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 09, 2010, 01:29 AM
gamma  lets compare  drivers licences lol  your  older then me!!!!!    And prettier too :^)  and at 13  "master"  had nothing to do with  fly  fishing  =)  OK....so I was fishing for my fly !    Not much difference :^)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 09, 2010, 01:40 AM
What a bunch of coconuts :rotflol:
Gamma, You already have the best parts of my jig box. Thank you very much!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: SNAGGER on Jun 09, 2010, 01:42 AM
You were reading my mind, what's left of it! My buddies and I (I'm the younin' at 69) just spent 6 days in Shinhopple(Roscoe/Downsville,NY) fly fishing, drinking and playing poker. (we did stop to eat and sleep.)
did my personal best landing 35 browns to 22 inches, mostly on dries, olive caddis,#16, Adams and pAdams,#16 to# 20, and gold beaded nymphs, both Hares ear and pheasent tail. Water was low but fishable. The East branch of the Delaware at Shinhopple was perfect at 50-53 degrees all week with good hatches. Got the bigger fish the the Willow and did ok in the Beaverkill. The 'kill was warm with measured temps in evening as high as 76. Tried to avoid that nightmare!I loved fishing a tandem rig with a #14 Rapidan as the strike indicator, dry fly and a gold beaded hare's ear as the nymph,size 16. Got fish on both flies, but the nymph outcaught the dry 4:1. Stayed at the Prpacton Cabins on the East Branch in Shinhopple. Great place, cabin, kitchen bath, beds and heat  right on the banks of the stream! Even won at poker!Everyone fly fished and got some!Should have fished a streamer, wooley bugger or muddler minnow but I just love my dries!Hatches included the black caddis, sulfurs, BWO, canuta, midges. Tight lines and enjoy a treasure!

  Here's a great video on dry fly fishing!!!

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_Xe-o9K8Z8&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_Xe-o9K8Z8&feature=related)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 09, 2010, 02:08 AM
"Enjoy thy stream, O harmless fish;
And when an angler for his dish,
Through gluttony's vile sin,
Attempts, the wretch, to pull thee out,
God give thee strength, O gentle trout,
To pull the rascal in!"
~John Wolcot
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Chainsaw on Jun 09, 2010, 03:18 AM
This Ol' Phartt's been doin' some of this most of his 68 years and has to face the reality that the Cancer may not let it last much longer and I'm seeking to divest myself of a few items that other ol' Phartt's may be interested in so's I don't have to condem my good wife to ten years of garage sales to get rid of 'Stuff', like my Ol' Phartt's Orvis rod my Dad bought just after WWII. Can't seem to find any youngsters who appreciate and use Bamboo any more and admittedly there may be better(?) stuff of newer material but this one's in pristine condition and draws the attention of other Ol' Phartt's when I haul it out.

Arriving to the 'Trout Grounds' on a motorcycle seems to put off some of the purists untill I take the rod tube out of its cover on the handlebars of the bike, and by the time I get it assembled in some places I have an audience of inquisitors who've gone to Graphite and Boron rods anymore. I've gone modern on the lines though and I don't have to reel 'em onto a drying rackas in days of old.

My biggest problem with trying to sell off 'Stuff' is that I may wake up the next day and need it to fish, and having a 'Buyer' who'll leave their purchases with me 'till I no longer need them is hard to find, so I'm probably 'Stuck' with all this stuff 'till my wife gets to sell it at garage sales, for the next ten years.

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: infectedtoe1952 on Jun 09, 2010, 09:57 AM
yo rg keep your dayjob if you must but as a poet you are a bust!!!!!!!! only 3 years older and wiser then me and telling that id better not do something ever again ***censored**** is with that!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 09, 2010, 10:07 AM
What a bunch of coconuts :rotflol:
Gamma, You already have the best parts of my jig box. Thank you very much!

RG
I can't make them as fast and as pretty as I used to so I'm now in reclamation mode  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: eyedoktr on Jun 09, 2010, 10:49 AM
Maybe someday I'll be old enough to be considered an old f--t.  8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 09, 2010, 11:05 AM
Maybe someday I'll be old enough to be considered an old f--t.  8)

your membership card  has been filled out for awhile i think  :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 09, 2010, 01:32 PM
yo rg keep your dayjob if you must but as a poet you are a bust!!!!!!!! only 3 years older and wiser then me and telling that id better not do something ever again ***censored**** is with that!!!!!!!!
Not at all sure what you're talking about. If a great poet like John Wolcott offends you, there's not much I can do about it.

Gamma,
You'll have to pry my jig box from my frozen fingers.

Pete,
This is the "Old Farts" club....you qualify ;D

Chainsaw,
There's comfort in the things you cherish like that Orvis Rod. Keep it! You may find a way to use it again. I'm sure that others and myself would jump at the opportunity to go with if you need or want company.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 09, 2010, 01:42 PM
YOU, Old Farts are cool!!!! Wish I could be an Old Fart!!!! Just a lonely Jr. Buzzard is all!!! ;D--KP   Where's Trapper?????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 09, 2010, 01:49 PM
Just COLD today. "The Old Man" and I froze our old butts off this morning, then the rain started in earnest.....we gave up!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 09, 2010, 01:55 PM
There will be better days RG!!!! Still beats work though!! Which reminds me, I gotta finish this new home quote!! ;D Tightlines!--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jun 09, 2010, 02:32 PM
Took her out for the maiden voyage today RG. Hit the lake at 8am and trolled until 12:30, hit the driveway just as the first drops hit the windshield.
Four hours of trolling until the rollers just got to hard to navigate by myself. Headed in on two and a half footers, Shes a tank!! Not a drop in either upper or lower Holds either. I'm a happy man...
Oh and caught two small lakers to boot.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Chainsaw on Jun 09, 2010, 02:42 PM
YOU, Old Farts are cool!!!! Wish I could be an Old Fart!!!! Just a lonely Jr. Buzzard is all!!! ;D--KP   Where's Trapper?????

All ya gotta do to be an Old Fart is: Practice-Practice-Practice, (for the first 25 years), then Practice-Practice-Practice some more for the next 25 years, then Practic-Prac.      (Well, I'm still working on it and only have the tice and one full Practice left to go.), so just Practice and you'll get to be one soon enough.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 09, 2010, 02:59 PM
SO, if I practice-practice-practice for the 1st 25, then practice-practice-pr, that should be 43 (+ or-) almost there chainsaw!!!! ;D LOL!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 09, 2010, 03:41 PM
.

Gamma,
You'll have to pry my jig box from my frozen fingers.



RG
That can be arranged  ;) ;D ;D ;D   Gamma Giveth and Gamma CAN Taketh Away  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 09, 2010, 04:43 PM
looks  at  gamma ....  you watch  rambo again ??????? when you going to learn  were wise to you ????? big ole teddy bear  ......  now  go and  stick yer  chest out  at ht  ....   :rotflol: :rotflol:

i  again took the kayak out  , i wore the  neophrenes  and  hodgeman jacket ,  cold  front   did slow the  gills down a lot but i managed a  few  ,once that heavy rain started i quit .....  hey  anyone still believe  al  gores  ideas on global warming?????????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 09, 2010, 04:55 PM
Took her out for the maiden voyage today RG. Hit the lake at 8am and trolled until 12:30, hit the driveway just as the first drops hit the windshield.
Four hours of trolling until the rollers just got to hard to navigate by myself. Headed in on two and a half footers, Shes a tank!! Not a drop in either upper or lower Holds either. I'm a happy man...
Oh and caught two small lakers to boot.
Very cool! You're floatin' :clapping:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 09, 2010, 05:27 PM
very  cool 1fish :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jun 09, 2010, 05:50 PM
You would have loved it Trap. I caught two decent rock bass on a downrigger. Speedy shiner's man go get ya some.... ;D. The really cool part is the release went off with a 8" fish.  Gotta love those Black Marine releases.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jun 09, 2010, 09:50 PM
You old f---ts sure do make for some good reading.
I'm learning a bit and busting up in the living room while SHE watches Desparate Houswives...AGAIN!
Thanks for the laughs you old f---ts!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 10, 2010, 06:01 AM
rock bass without effert ...i like that!!!!!hoping the lake stays flat today i wanna fish on top ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jun 10, 2010, 06:19 AM
You old f---ts sure do make for some good reading.
I'm learning a bit and busting up in the living room while SHE watches Desparate Houswives...AGAIN!
Thanks for the laughs you old f---ts!
Almost as funny as you youngins and your dingy's in the trout pond......
My thoughts when I saw the photo went to you learning to fly fish, the back cast, wait, tip rod tip out 20 degrees, load tip and forward...... thwack pssssssstttt and there goes Slyr spinning like a top across the pond...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jun 10, 2010, 07:22 AM
Almost as funny as you youngins and your dingy's in the trout pond......
My thoughts when I saw the photo went to you learning to fly fish, the back cast, wait, tip rod tip out 20 degrees, load tip and forward...... thwack pssssssstttt and there goes Slyr spinning like a top across the pond...
Man, I thought about it. Thought better of it. 10 years ago I would have done it and ended up paying for it.
A canoe awaits me in the woods up there for a 2.5 day hike and fishing binge. The fly rod will be coming with me finally.
I'll be lurking the heck out of this thread between now and then.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 10, 2010, 07:40 AM
stp offers a  new  foam cutter  for a realistic hopper!!! it looks  great , i just ordered  2  :rotflol:

http://www.riverroadcreations.com/images/TiedHopper.JPG  check it out !  sorry i don't know how to make in a  link ,just copy and  past it  guys  ...also  check out  the  stp  frog  all the  cutters  are quilty  and  work great ....

heres the page to order  one

http://www.riverroadcreations.com/HopperBody.htm
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 10, 2010, 07:52 AM
Hope this helps you Trap!!http://www.riverroadcreations.com/images/TiedHopper.JPG (http://www.riverroadcreations.com/images/TiedHopper.JPG)  --KP ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 10, 2010, 03:46 PM
stp offers a  new  foam cutter  for a realistic hopper!!! it looks  great , i just ordered  2  :rotflol:

http://www.riverroadcreations.com/images/TiedHopper.JPG  check it out !  sorry i don't know how to make in a  link ,just copy and  past it  guys  ...also  check out  the  stp  frog  all the  cutters  are quilty  and  work great ....

heres the page to order  one

http://www.riverroadcreations.com/HopperBody.htm
Man...I'm gonna find some steel rule die. Those aren't real complicated.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 10, 2010, 05:24 PM
You old f---ts sure do make for some good reading.
I'm learning a bit and busting up in the living room while SHE watches Desparate Houswives...AGAIN!
Thanks for the laughs you old f---ts!

Ditto that! If I am as funny as you guys when I get old.....watch out. :w00t:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 10, 2010, 05:40 PM
i though about making my own  cookie  cutters  myself  RG  but my luck  it would be a trip to the  er and   a min of  5  stitches ,   when ya look at it like that the  8 bucks  ain't that  expensive   :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 11, 2010, 02:07 AM
What's a thumb worth, right? ;D

I can't help it, I just like to male stuff. They do have the process down. Nice looking products.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jun 11, 2010, 04:42 AM
Can I ask you old f--ts for some advice or tips?
I want to try trolling with some streamers on a fly rod for brookies.
Of course fish307 took good care of me. I'm tempted to start  thread about how well they took care of me.
I can only spend so much time in the bait shop before my cell starts blowin' up in my pocket.
Would I be correct to assume first and last light are my best chances at hooking up?
Should I be trolling as slow as I possibly can?
Do I even stand a chance trying to troll a streamer on top after may?
Newbie with a fly here. I'm clueless with these extra long sticks.
 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 11, 2010, 06:27 AM
perch i  did it  for rainbows  and it worked  but i think trolling  sucks!!!!!  personal  opinion   but to me trolling  is as  exciting as looking at  bridal  magazines! ...a root canal  is less painful ... rather go with my wife  when  she gets her hair done....perhaps  standing in line at the  DMV!!!!  i bet  being stuck in trafffic on a 95 degree day  when broken ac  would  be better .. watching old  golden girls reruns on TV ....  or standing in line  for a free rabies  shot for the  dog ....

did i mention i don't care  for trolling????????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jun 11, 2010, 06:54 AM
Thanks Trap for the morning chuckle.
Slyr, find another reel and load it with a sinking line. Crossroads had some in the bargain bin for 10 bucks.
Add a 4lb mono leader and a wobble type spoon, I've always liked Hinkleys. That will give the streamer a tail flip, and jerky motion. Shortish leader from attractor to streamer 18" to 2'.  I've trolled streamers anytime of day with results.
Don't be afraid to tie on a 2" wooly bugger.....leeches are a favorite food....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: adkbrookie on Jun 11, 2010, 07:06 AM
Thanks Trap for the morning chuckle.
Slyr, find another reel and load it with a sinking line. Crossroads had some in the bargain bin for 10 bucks.
Add a 4lb mono leader and a wobble type spoon, I've always liked Hinkleys. That will give the streamer a tail flip, and jerky motion. Shortish leader from attractor to streamer 18" to 2'.  I've trolled streamers anytime of day with results.
Don't be afraid to tie on a 2" wooly bugger.....leeches are a favorite food....

2X. the sinking line is worth it. run more than 1 fly too, you'll be amazed how much they seem to like choices.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 11, 2010, 10:27 AM
i'm on lunch ....things i learned today ....DO NOT SNAG A MUSKRAT  WITH  FLYROD  WHILE IN KAYAK ....little  safty  tip  from the old trap .....anyone need any dubbing materal????????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 11, 2010, 03:44 PM
Trapper,
 You left out an IRS audit, your second cousin's nephew's graduation and mowing the lawn..... oh yeah...and "Lite" beer.

Did I mention that I don't really like trolling either?

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jun 11, 2010, 04:18 PM
Trap,
Your posts are timeless man! Good stuff.
Sure trolling isn't like jigging, but I'm 33. I don't go to a nasty smelling, clown filled gym to keep in shape. I fish.
I find it relaxing to do laps around a small lake or pond. I'm sure when I get to be the age of knowing all the advantages of prep H, I'll end up hating it too.
Thanks for the tips and chuckles. I'll get the heck out of here.
You old f--ts go on wit yo bad selves!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 11, 2010, 06:36 PM
 lol perch  just having fun at your expense .....  thats something else  old  f--ts  are  good at ....  second  half of the  day played out  better as  far as  fish go ,  got a little sun today and  spent most my day on the water ...life is good  ...... 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 12, 2010, 01:23 AM
 Gonna try out some of the "crappie treats" this morning. High anticipation level ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 12, 2010, 07:20 AM
thundering  bad here and pouring hope it clears bye noon , good time to sip coffee and  fill the  popper box
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 12, 2010, 12:47 PM
I made it out from 4:30 am to 6:00 then a big storm came through just North of me. I saw lightning and beat feet for home. Went back at 7:30. Caught my first catfish on a fly. About 3 lbs. Hit a small black/white clouser. FUUUUNNNNN!

Got a few bass and rockies. Searched for bluegills but no good luck.. I'm gonna hit the creek towards dusk. I have some new patterns to test ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 13, 2010, 09:40 AM
ok so   we had to dodge  rain showers and lightning  ...big deal better then kids on jet ski's  and  weekend warriors  .....  between   runs  to the lake i  premade  all kinds  of foam bodys , why ...i have no idea other then  they look good  on my  tying bench..... the fishing i did yesterday wasn't the best i even broke out the spinning rod  ....i'm not a purist  when it comes to flyfishing i hate  the ted turner dressed in orvis clothing  group more then the jet skiers  to be honest ....someone said the state was broke ...well i  just paid  8 bucks  for a  pack of cigerattes  ...2.73  a gallion for my  gas  ...5 bucks in losing lottery tickets .....  and  a 70 cent toll on a truway   that was supposed to be free  20 years  ago.....  my park is closed  ....and i don't think this  money proplem  with the state  is the fault of the  voters!!!!  omg  did our elected  (and unelected)  government officals  mess up???????

as i fished i have  come up with a  whole new plan! only  mothers with  at least 4 children   can run for state office!!!! mothers that were able to feed and cloth  there  children and send them to school ....ones  that  understood the  concept  not to spend money they didn't have and understood  what responcablity  means ! yup and theres a reason why i want  women to do this!  because   i want to fish  just like you guys  i don't want to be in charge of nothing but myself and which way i paddle!  women on the other hand would  take the time to  pay the bills  , and still make the state  look "PRETTY" ..... it's a new plan  but lets  face it  ,truth is  voting for  "profeesionals  sure as hell  didn't work !!!  .lets   toss  them out and  go in a new  direction
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 13, 2010, 12:30 PM
ok so   we had to dodge  rain showers and lightning  ...big deal better then kids on jet ski's  and  weekend warriors  .....  between   runs  to the lake i  premade  all kinds  of foam bodys , why ...i have no idea other then  they look good  on my  tying bench..... the fishing i did yesterday wasn't the best i even broke out the spinning rod  ....i'm not a purist  when it comes to flyfishing i hate  the ted turner dressed in orvis clothing  group more then the jet skiers  to be honest ....someone said the state was broke ...well i  just paid  8 bucks  for a  pack of cigerattes  ...2.73  a gallion for my  gas  ...5 bucks in losing lottery tickets .....  and  a 70 cent toll on a truway   that was supposed to be free  20 years  ago.....  my park is closed  ....and i don't think this  money proplem  with the state  is the fault of the  voters!!!!  omg  did our elected  (and unelected)  government officals  mess up???????

as i fished i have  come up with a  whole new plan! only  mothers with  at least 4 children   can run for state office!!!! mothers that were able to feed and cloth  there  children and send them to school ....ones  that  understood the  concept  not to spend money they didn't have and understood  what responcablity  means ! yup and theres a reason why i want  women to do this!  because   i want to fish  just like you guys  i don't want to be in charge of nothing but myself and which way i paddle!  women on the other hand would  take the time to  pay the bills  , and still make the state  look "PRETTY" ..... it's a new plan  but lets  face it  ,truth is  voting for  "profeesionals  sure as hell  didn't work !!!  .lets   toss  them out and  go in a new  direction
Back off on the coffee there Trapper !   You're gonna blow a gasket !

  Oh...by the way.  FM needs more of those foam spiders / beetles that you left for him  :whistling: :whistling:     
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jun 13, 2010, 05:05 PM
OK so it isn't really fly fishing but all this talk of tying this and that I broke out the vise and spun some bucktails on my trolling spoons. Even loaded an old Martin reel with some new 5wt floating. May have to go to the local pond and toss a few out for the little rainbows. Sure beats watching the rain pour down.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 13, 2010, 07:36 PM
go get em  fish!!!!!  gamma  i'll spin ya  both on to  flies  no biggy  buddy  ....  did  fm get his kayak  in the water this week end?????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 13, 2010, 11:32 PM
go get em  fish!!!!!  gamma  i'll spin ya  both on to  flies  no biggy  buddy  ....  did  fm get his kayak  in the water this week end?????
Thanks Pal ! ;)   I just need a couple to experiment with  !    FM was involved with much more important and honorable duties this weekend but he'll get the kayak wet soon !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 14, 2010, 04:26 AM
just tell me what  ya  need  or  are thinking about. if  we ain't got  it we  will tie  it ;D....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 14, 2010, 05:51 AM
just tell me what  ya  need  or  are thinking about. if  we ain't got  it we  will tie  it ;D....
Well....it's June so how about a June Bug pattern ?  :whistling: :whistling:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 14, 2010, 08:28 AM
gamma  just tell me  what ya need ...  be more then happy  to help ya ...oh theres a price tho....  cup of  coffee  and  a  bs session  ;D your good for both
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 14, 2010, 11:54 AM
gamma  just tell me  what ya need ...  be more then happy  to help ya ...oh theres a price tho....  cup of  coffee  and  a  bs session  ;D your good for both
You name the time and place ! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 14, 2010, 12:22 PM
UH-OHH, I feel a Trap and Gamma session coming on at FM's place....feel free boy's my coffee is always hot. ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 14, 2010, 12:30 PM
UH-OHH, I feel a Trap and Gamma session coming on at FM's place....feel free boy's my coffee is always hot. ;)
You were reading my mind !!   ;) ;D ;D    I'll bring a jig box to pass ! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 14, 2010, 07:15 PM
i'll be there  tomorrow  bout noon i hope  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 14, 2010, 08:36 PM
i'll be there  tomorrow  bout noon i hope  ;D

I'll have the coffee on Trap, Gotta make sure the Ol' Gamma can get up that early though!!! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 14, 2010, 11:38 PM
I'll have the coffee on Trap, Gotta make sure the Ol' Gamma can get up that early though!!! ;)
I'll be up !   Gotta take my niece to work at 9 AM !    Remember the shifter ??  :( :(
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 15, 2010, 12:05 AM
I'll be up !   Gotta take my niece to work at 9 AM !    Remember the shifter ??  :( :(

That is one thing no one ever gives you credit for Gamma.... You are a good man, always willing to help out those in need!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jun 15, 2010, 05:08 AM
You guys shamed me into it. I tied a few black gnat patterns yesterday afternoon.
Tyler and I went down to a little pond and tried them out. First one mashed in about 20 monutes.
Tied on the second one and Ty tried it out. After some more pointers on laying a flt down instead of shooting it into the water he hooked up. Love to see that smile. Nice to know I can still do it if I want.
Now off to get a 12lb laker.......details at 11
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 15, 2010, 07:58 AM
where the hell is RG  he  ain't checked in since  fri ...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: pyle on Jun 15, 2010, 08:09 AM
That is one thing no one ever gives you credit for Gamma.... You are a good man, always willing to help out those in need!

He's just a BIG Teddy Bear :laugh:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 15, 2010, 08:47 AM
He's just a BIG Teddy Bear :laugh:
If I could wave a finger at you I would !       ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  You know which one !! ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 15, 2010, 02:42 PM
That is one thing no one ever gives you credit for Gamma.... You are a good man, always willing to help out those in need!
I'm in need of a 9-10 HP outboard for my sons duck boat....... Got any GAMMA??????? Meant to ask you today, but, forgot! Good rapping with you and Trapper today!!!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 15, 2010, 02:48 PM
gamma  great news i got you a  yankee hat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 15, 2010, 02:55 PM
 :w00t: :flag: :w00t: :flag: :w00t: :flag: :thumbup_smilie:--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 15, 2010, 03:34 PM
27  thats right  27  rings   ya  know  kp when your that good  ya  deserve  to make  more money then anyone  else!!!!! 1923,27,28,32,36,37,38,39,41,43,47,49,50,51,52,53,56,58,61,62,77,78,96,98,99,2000,09 ...... which means  the  YANKEES  are the world  champians  every  3.852 years!!!!  that is the  best record in any  major  sport ever!!!! period !!!!  
    now thats  not talking poop  gamma  those  are  hard  core facts!!!! .......  i'll give  ya a yankees  hat  ;D

which makes me wonder why do they call it  a world series  if  it's played  in  da  bronx  so much ?? :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 15, 2010, 03:37 PM
Trap, I think he deserves a 2010 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS HAT!!!! What do you think??--KP :flag: Sorry if I hijacked your thread and any other ones that GAMMA lurks on!! He needs to see it on all of them!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 15, 2010, 03:38 PM
kp  remeber giving  someone  a yankees  cap is  giving the  very best ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 15, 2010, 03:40 PM
We only want to give the best TRAP!!!--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 15, 2010, 04:42 PM
I'm in need of a 9-10 HP outboard for my sons duck boat....... Got any GAMMA??????? Meant to ask you today, but, forgot! Good rapping with you and Trapper today!!!!--KP 8)

Guess rapping with FM wasn't so good EHH?   ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 15, 2010, 06:28 PM
big thanks   to  fm  for again  taking care  of  me!!!!  rode  great  bro  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 15, 2010, 06:52 PM
gamma  great news i got you a  yankee hat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Just make sure it's the biggest size they make so when I flip it over and use it as a toilet, it won't overflow  ;D ;D ;D ;D
  Better yet, make sure it's one of those mesh back hats so I can use it for a minnow scoop........oh wait....I don't use minnows so a porcelain pot it'll have to be ! ;D ;D ;D ;D


I'm in need of a 9-10 HP outboard for my sons duck boat....... Got any GAMMA??????? Meant to ask you today, but, forgot! Good rapping with you and Trapper today!!!!--KP 8)
Nothing that big right now KP but I see them around all the time.    Let me know what you're looking to spend and I'll get you the most bang for your buck !

  Couldn't your kid just hold HT over the transom and make him flail his arms around to propel the boat ?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 15, 2010, 07:39 PM
jeter has a nicer boat then you  :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 15, 2010, 07:54 PM
jeter has a nicer boat then you  :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: 
You're a sick man !   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 15, 2010, 07:56 PM
big thanks   to  fm  for again  taking care  of  me!!!!  rode  great  bro  ;D
You are more than welcome Trap!! Check for a PM Trap
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jun 16, 2010, 06:55 AM
Just make sure it's the biggest size they make so when I flip it over and use it as a toilet, it won't overflow  ;D ;D ;D ;D
  Better yet, make sure it's one of those mesh back hats so I can use it for a minnow scoop........oh wait....I don't use minnows so a porcelain pot it'll have to be ! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Nothing that big right now KP but I see them around all the time.    Let me know what you're looking to spend and I'll get you the most bang for your buck !

  Couldn't your kid just hold HT over the transom and make him flail his arms around to propel the boat ?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
wow that is pretty low :P ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 16, 2010, 07:11 AM
Just make sure it's the biggest size they make so when I flip it over and use it as a toilet, it won't overflow  ;D ;D ;D ;D
  Better yet, make sure it's one of those mesh back hats so I can use it for a minnow scoop........oh wait....I don't use minnows so a porcelain pot it'll have to be ! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Nothing that big right now KP but I see them around all the time.    Let me know what you're looking to spend and I'll get you the most bang for your buck !

  Couldn't your kid just hold HT over the transom and make him flail his arms around to propel the boat ?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
GAMMA, your so full of poop that you would need a 55 gallon drum so it don't overflow!!!!! :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 16, 2010, 07:12 AM
Guess rapping with FM wasn't so good EHH?   ;)
That's you I was referring to FM, it was a reply to your post!!! Do you need a HUG????  ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 16, 2010, 07:15 AM
Just make sure it's the biggest size they make so when I flip it over and use it as a toilet, it won't overflow  ;D ;D ;D ;D
  Better yet, make sure it's one of those mesh back hats so I can use it for a minnow scoop........oh wait....I don't use minnows so a porcelain pot it'll have to be ! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Nothing that big right now KP but I see them around all the time.    Let me know what you're looking to spend and I'll get you the most bang for your buck !

  Couldn't your kid just hold HT over the transom and make him flail his arms around to propel the boat ?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
I couldn't do that to HT!!!! ::) Keep me in mind on a motor though!!!--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jun 16, 2010, 07:21 AM
I couldn't do that to HT!!!! ::) Keep me in mind on a motor though!!!--KP
thanks KP  ;) I think that old fart Gamma is loosing his mind. its called lack of fishing :cookoo:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 16, 2010, 07:41 AM
if ya face gamma toward the transome ,and got him worked up ....you'd have a air boat!!!!!!!!!!!  :rotflol: ......
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 16, 2010, 07:46 AM
 :rotflol: At least he wouldn't be TALKING!!!! LOL!! Mornin' Trapper!! ;) GO YANKEES!!! :flag: Would you be kind to remind me and GAMMA again Trap, How many rings  will it be this year??? ::) Thanks!--KP :P
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jun 16, 2010, 07:54 AM
LOL, I was just reading posts. Thought came to me, yeah I know amazing huh?
But I would love to be on a lake somewhere near a boat with Trap, K.P. and Gamma, with RG on the helm.
Man just listening would be entertainment value at it's maximum!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 16, 2010, 08:03 AM
Just ask and He shall receive!!!!! I just wanna drive the boat, drink coffee and listen to the war stories. I'm just a Jr. Buzzard, but, unlike GAMMA, I like to listen!!!!! ;D What do you think Trap, GAMMA and RG??? I can definitley lose a day of work for that one!!!!!! OH, Cream and sugar in my coffee!!! ;)--KP :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jun 16, 2010, 01:21 PM
Where do I find tickets for THIS show? No moderating on the water!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 16, 2010, 01:33 PM
That's you I was referring to FM, it was a reply to your post!!! Do you need a HUG????  ;D--KP 8)

LOL, heck no... I don't want your grubby smallmouth smelling mitts on me ??? ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 16, 2010, 01:35 PM
LOL, I was just reading posts. Thought came to me, yeah I know amazing huh?
But I would love to be on a lake somewhere near a boat with Trap, K.P. and Gamma, with RG on the helm.
Man just listening would be entertainment value at it's maximum!!!

You gotta add HT to that bunch also.....couple of beers, and he'll have ya rolling around! ;D Oh, and I wanna sit in the boat with slayer
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 16, 2010, 01:49 PM
I'm in the boat with the "OLD FARTS", FM and Prchslyr team up and GAMMA and HT in another boat!!!!! All flyrod fishing boys!!!!! And watch 'Ol GAMMA wrap the line around his neck, stick a # 12 bead head pheasant tail hook in his ear and..... You guys get the picture!! And last but not least..... NO HUGGING!!!!! Bad enough the boys from downstate think we're all wierdo's, let alone, have them witness MAN HUGS!!!! :cookoo: Tightlines!--KP 8) GAMMA, Make sure you tune into that YANKEES game tonight!!!! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jun 16, 2010, 02:09 PM
Noone wants to be in a boat with me and a fly rod.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 16, 2010, 02:11 PM
That's funny,

 I just told Trapper that Gamma better buy a sombrero to protect his ears.

BTW...If you think I'm gonna chauffeur a boatload of those old reprobates all over the lake, you got another thing coming. Especially with Gamma and FM flailing fly sticks in every which direction. I'd need body armor.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jun 16, 2010, 02:12 PM
Although, I wouldn't mind taking lessons from 'ol trap and rg. 5 bucks goes to the first one to pluck a doughnut outta fm's hand with a fly!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jun 16, 2010, 02:21 PM
I'm in the boat with the "OLD FARTS", FM and Prchslyr team up and GAMMA and HT in another boat!!!!! All flyrod fishing boys!!!!! And watch 'Ol GAMMA wrap the line around his neck, stick a # 12 bead head pheasant tail hook in his ear and..... You guys get the picture!! And last but not least..... NO HUGGING!!!!! Bad enough the boys from downstate think we're all wierdo's, let alone, have them witness MAN HUGS!!!! :cookoo: Tightlines!--KP 8) GAMMA, Make sure you tune into that YANKEES game tonight!!!! ;D
Hey if you guys want  hugs go fish with Stormy!  :cookoo:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jun 16, 2010, 02:24 PM
Although, I wouldn't mind taking lessons from 'ol trap and rg. 5 bucks goes to the first one to pluck a doughnut outta fm's hand with a fly!
i will take that bet. i will do it with my center pin. i bet Snagger couldnt do that. you would problably have to take FMS hand with the dough nut. you know that boy wont let go.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 16, 2010, 02:49 PM
Donuts don't stay in my hands long enough to pick one out, gonna have to be real good to get that fly down my gullet. ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jun 16, 2010, 02:49 PM
Crap, think I just lost my fishing partner. Good stuff H.T. !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jun 16, 2010, 02:55 PM
My god the tears are flowing. You guys are somethin. I knew that would get some responses!! OK RG you can ride in the classic with me, working on a 12 volt coffee maker for it......
Have to tell you I took Tyler out for lakers yesterday.(I know no pics never happended)
But after searching for a couple hours I found them and started yankin in earnest.
Few minutes later hooked a good one and handed the pole to Ty. Was worth more than ten times what the boat cost to see his face when he pulled that short stout rod hard and the fish took it back to the water. He was still grinning this morning when he went to work.
Total of two caught, four hits.(yeah I missed two) But starting to get a little idea how to do this leadline thing.
One a little over 27" and 8lbs and a decent 24" around 5-6lbs. The fish in there are PHAT! LOL
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 16, 2010, 03:06 PM
i will take that bet. i will do it with my center pin. i bet Snagger couldnt do that. you would problably have to take FMS hand with the dough nut. you know that boy wont let go.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
5 bucks goes to SNAGGER HT, You havn't perfected the pinner JUST yet!!! ;) Now on a serious note....... That little $5 bet on the donut thing Prchslyr.....hmmmmmm   Trapper or RG..... RG or Trapper....hmmmmmmm That might have to go both ways... They are the top two 'OLD FARTS WITH FLYRODS!!!!  Hey prchslyr!! I'd give $10 to the one who can cast the fly through the center of FM's donut!!!! ;D  Man, I love this OLD FART thread!!!!!! NOW, Where is TRAPPER????? ::)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 16, 2010, 03:09 PM
My god the tears are flowing. You guys are somethin. I knew that would get some responses!! OK RG you can ride in the classic with me, working on a 12 volt coffee maker for it......
Have to tell you I took Tyler out for lakers yesterday.(I know no pics never happended)
But after searching for a couple hours I found them and started yankin in earnest.
Few minutes later hooked a good one and handed the pole to Ty. Was worth more than ten times what the boat cost to see his face when he pulled that short stout rod hard and the fish took it back to the water. He was still grinning this morning when he went to work.
Total of two caught, four hits.(yeah I missed two) But starting to get a little idea how to do this leadline thing.
One a little over 27" and 8lbs and a decent 24" around 5-6lbs. The fish in there are PHAT! LOL
Great report and great story!!!!! Good Job 1fish!! and TY!! ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jun 16, 2010, 05:08 PM
My god the tears are flowing. You guys are somethin. I knew that would get some responses!! OK RG you can ride in the classic with me, working on a 12 volt coffee maker for it......
Have to tell you I took Tyler out for lakers yesterday.(I know no pics never happended)
But after searching for a couple hours I found them and started yankin in earnest.
Few minutes later hooked a good one and handed the pole to Ty. Was worth more than ten times what the boat cost to see his face when he pulled that short stout rod hard and the fish took it back to the water. He was still grinning this morning when he went to work.
Total of two caught, four hits.(yeah I missed two) But starting to get a little idea how to do this leadline thing.
One a little over 27" and 8lbs and a decent 24" around 5-6lbs. The fish in there are PHAT! LOL
now thats what it is all about. no pictures needed man. good stuff right there. keep catching them, :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 16, 2010, 08:22 PM
center pins  run mono ...were  talking flyline  ...i think we should  put HT and gamma  in the same boat and set back and watch ....gamma  will be  wrapped  up in line  with a hook  in his  ear  talking poop....HT  will see  his opening and  climb on gamma's  shoulders to get a better cast  ...they both fall  out of  boat  and  well be  the  search and  rescue  team  ......  i knew i shouldn't have gotten them  casting flies........  it use to be such a peaceful  sport .....  oh gamma  27  ....thats  right 27  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 17, 2010, 01:56 AM
working on a 12 volt coffee maker for it......


I think I have one. If you want it I'll try to did it up and send it along. I'm pretty sure I know where it is. I don't drink much coffee any more.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 17, 2010, 03:55 AM
....i'm up and truck is loaded...in search of the all elusive bluegill....i'm loaded with enough foam flies my flyvest can now be rated  by the USCG as a pfd ...i have nymphs  ...  extra leaders,tippet material ..almost forgot my  box of may flies!!!! every pocket is full and i have clippers,forecipps ,leader strightner,clipers,reading glasses all hanging off my vest....i have things i'll never use ...no idea why i have them other then i have places for them on this vest ....i have a knot tier ...what the heck is it???? i don't know where i got it ,no idea how it works , and no idea who would want one .....but if you do ...it's in my vest top right pocket.... i justt feed the addiction ....all the gear and  hardwares only purpose is to keep me occupied  till  i can fish .....then i forget about leader strightners and knott tiers ..... all order is lost on the first rise..... the world  is swiped away  and replaced with rings on water and a bent rod.... life  is good!!!! have  great days guys 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 17, 2010, 03:57 AM
hey i did  find  a hook  remover ...gamma  your going to need this!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jun 17, 2010, 04:50 AM
Man Trap, glad I never bought one of those vests. I would be panhandling on the streets.... ;D
I carry my hemostats for unhooking and tying a fly on, a few extra fies in a small plastic case and....that's about it.
Oops forgot, some line muclix and a bottle of silicone spray. Well then theres the head cement for any repairs, a couple indicators, tape measure....Man I'm gonna need a vest......and a rich uncle....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jun 17, 2010, 06:29 AM
all the gear and  hardwares only purpose is to keep me occupied  till  i can fish .....then i forget about leader strightners and knott tiers ..... all order is lost on the first rise..... the world  is swiped away  and replaced with rings on water and a bent rod.... life  is good!!!! have  great days guys 
You don't have to be a fly guy to appreciate that one trap! One of the coolest quotes I have seen here.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 17, 2010, 07:11 AM
....i'm up and truck is loaded...in search of the all elusive bluegill....i'm loaded with enough foam flies my flyvest can now be rated  by the USCG as a pfd ...i have nymphs  ...  extra leaders,tippet material ..almost forgot my  box of may flies!!!! every pocket is full and i have clippers,forecipps ,leader strightner,clipers,reading glasses all hanging off my vest....i have things i'll never use ...no idea why i have them other then i have places for them on this vest ....i have a knot tier ...what the heck is it???? i don't know where i got it ,no idea how it works , and no idea who would want one .....but if you do ...it's in my vest top right pocket.... i justt feed the addiction ....all the gear and  hardwares only purpose is to keep me occupied  till  i can fish .....then i forget about leader strightners and knott tiers ..... all order is lost on the first rise..... the world  is swiped away  and replaced with rings on water and a bent rod.... life  is good!!!! have  great days guys 
Trapper, Have a great day out there Buddy!! You forgot just 3 things though, 1- YANKEES HAT, 2- RAINCOAT,and 3-  KP!! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jun 17, 2010, 07:28 AM
Trapper, Have a great day out there Buddy!! You forgot just 3 things though, 1- YANKEES HAT, 2- RAINCOAT,and 3-  KP!! ;D
4-H.T. ???
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 17, 2010, 09:11 AM
i'd never forget you HT  your  welcome  in my  boat anytime !!!!!!!!!!!!!  besides yer a fish catchin machineeeeeeeeee
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 17, 2010, 09:25 AM
OH, I see where 'Ol KP sits..... NOT in Trapper's boat!!!! No Love For KP this morning!!! :P--KP I'm going to the garage right now, fill a 5 gallon bucket full of water, and put my head in it!!!! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jun 17, 2010, 09:26 AM
OH, I see where 'Ol KP sits..... NOT in Trapper's boat!!!! No Love For KP this morning!!! :P--KP I'm going to the garage right now, fill a 5 gallon bucket full of water, and put my head in it!!!! ;D
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 17, 2010, 09:29 AM
Buckets half full as I type.... OR is it half empty??? ;D--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 17, 2010, 09:31 AM
Get that coconut of yours in there......it'll be full ;D Morning BOYS!!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 17, 2010, 09:33 AM
NO Love for KP this morning!!! Where's STORMY??? He'll show some love!!!--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 17, 2010, 09:56 AM
darn youngins...smacks  KP and  HT in the  head ,both of ya  get in the  boat and  shut up!!!!!! ...... 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 17, 2010, 10:14 AM
....i'm up and truck is loaded...in search of the all elusive bluegill....i'm loaded with enough foam flies my flyvest can now be rated  by the USCG as a pfd ...i have nymphs  ...  extra leaders,tippet material ..almost forgot my  box of may flies!!!! every pocket is full and i have clippers,forecipps ,leader strightner,clipers,reading glasses all hanging off my vest....i have things i'll never use ...no idea why i have them other then i have places for them on this vest ....i have a knot tier ...what the heck is it???? i don't know where i got it ,no idea how it works , and no idea who would want one .....but if you do ...it's in my vest top right pocket.... i justt feed the addiction ....all the gear and  hardwares only purpose is to keep me occupied  till  i can fish .....then i forget about leader strightners and knott tiers ..... all order is lost on the first rise..... the world  is swiped away  and replaced with rings on water and a bent rod.... life  is good!!!! have  great days guys 
Don't forget your bottle of Geritol !    ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 17, 2010, 10:32 AM
darn youngins...smacks  KP and  HT in the  head ,both of ya  get in the  boat and  shut up!!!!!! ...... 
Just dried my head off from the water bucket..... Yep!! I'm still here!! Trapper, You bust me up buddy!! KP says to HT after getting smacked in the head by Trap  "NO, HT, I wanna sit in the front....." ;D--KP  8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jun 17, 2010, 12:23 PM
no way man i get the front of the boat  :P :nono: ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jun 17, 2010, 02:42 PM
Hmm no one called shotgun, thats a good thing....no guns allowed.
Unless it's to dispatch a muskrat.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 17, 2010, 02:42 PM
Leave HT in the front......he just picks his nose and drinks Busch beer! :w00t: :cookoo:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 17, 2010, 03:30 PM
I'd want him in the back then.... If he picks his nose and dropped that BOOGER.... I don't want that thing to land on me behind him!!!! :w00t: :w00t: Same goes for when he gets seasick from drinking all that BUSCH beer!!! :w00t:--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 17, 2010, 03:38 PM
I'm crying over here.....I thought busch beer was made from seawater!! :w00t:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 17, 2010, 04:24 PM
You kill me FM!!!!! :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:--KP ;D The "OLD FARTS" must really be putting on a clinic with the flyrod today!!!! NO RG, Trapper, 1Fish.........Fishin' must be good!!! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 17, 2010, 04:46 PM
No RG?????

I had my day yesterday. Man I'm glad I decided to stop working Wednesdays. I was on the canal at 4:30 am playing with the bass on some clousers (Thanks to Trapper for that valuable info)

Got rained off around 8:30 am. Went back home for breakfast and it started storming like crazy. So what do I do? Grab the fly chaser and beat feet for the stream. I reckoned that the rising water might turn the fish on. I hid under a bridge as the main thunder and lightning passed over me, accompanied by torrential  rain. I started tossing a good sized chartreuse and white clouser and BAM....smallmouth...and again....and again and yet again.

The biggest was close to 3 lbs and with the fast water they fought like hell.


I tore myself from the water and beat feet for the golf course to play my league with my friend Packerbacker. We made it around 9 and the skies opened again washing us off the golf course (good thing...we were stinking up the place with our play).

Got home, ate and went back to the stream with the ultralight and some rooster tails. Pounded out another 6 or 8 bass, some rockies, a couple of bluegills and tail hooked a good sized carp.

You're right Trapper...."Life IS good"

Can you believe that some people actually don't fish or play golf? I don't understand :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 17, 2010, 05:27 PM
Good to hear your having some fun RG!!!!! NOW, Where's Trapper??? ;D--KP :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 17, 2010, 07:47 PM
No RG?????

I had my day yesterday. Man I'm glad I decided to stop working Wednesdays. I was on the canal at 4:30 am playing with the clousers (Thanks to Trapper for that valuable info)

Got rained off around 8:30 am. Went back home for breakfast and it started storming like crazy. So what do I do? Grab the fly chaser and beat feet for the stream. I reckoned that the rising water might turn the fish on. I hid under a bridge as the main thunder and lightning passed over me, accompanied by torrential  rain. I started tossing a good sized chartreuse and white clouser and BAM....smallmouth...and again....and again and yet again.

The biggest was close to 3 lbs and with the fast water they fought like hell.

\

RG
You probably shouldn't be doing that in public  :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: ;) ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 18, 2010, 01:35 AM
Well....there wasn't anybody around at that time of the morning ::)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 18, 2010, 08:34 AM
the old  trap  already  tossed  some  flies this morning  ;D  ....  rg  i  have to  send  ya  some  gobie  clousers  or  at least a picture   very easy to tie  and  really work!....  now  ht gets the front of the boat!  reason being   we  can cast over the top of  him no problem!  busch beer will be  replaced  with heineken ...Rg has been right about that right along  it's better  beer!  kp i'm putting you in the middle  of the  boat  so i can keep a  eye on you !!!!!  i  want no  bobbers in the trees!   gamma   can't go because  he  can't get up early  enough  he's still tring to be a teenage  rock star  and hoping to replace  keith richards  (least face it he  can't go on forever ...can he????) wait  who's older  gamma  or richardson ???? .....HT  remeber if you see fins   near the  beaver d**n and  silver flashes  ,chances are there not carp ....now  if you two start any trouble  or fight in the boat ,i'm grounding you both and  no hanging at fm's   place  for a week!!!!

now the  report .... started  bout 5 am  used  a  foam stone flie   orange  and  blue  dun  hair  ...geart on the bass  few  decent river gills  ..swithched  to a  white clouser  working it slow   small  smallies and  1   eye  ;D i plan on hitting the lake  later   working it with  nymphs  and  streamers  then  switching  to  poppers  and  frogs  .....
  gamma get  a  fly rod  to  fm  asap  i have a  decent  reel and  7wt line  he  can have   and he can practice  in his  parking lot!  fm  you  have   a pm  ...later  gents
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jun 18, 2010, 09:08 AM
 :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 18, 2010, 12:00 PM
Well....there wasn't anybody around at that time of the morning ::)

RG
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 18, 2010, 12:02 PM
the old  trap  already  tossed  some  flies this morning  ;D  ....  rg  i  have to  send  ya  some  gobie  clousers  or  at least a picture   very easy to tie  and  really work!....  now  ht gets the front of the boat!  reason being   we  can cast over the top of  him no problem!  busch beer will be  replaced  with heineken ...Rg has been right about that right along  it's better  beer!  kp i'm putting you in the middle  of the  boat  so i can keep a  eye on you !!!!!  i  want no  bobbers in the trees!   gamma   can't go because  he  can't get up early  enough  he's still tring to be a teenage  rock star  and hoping to replace  keith richards  (least face it he  can't go on forever ...can he????) wait  who's older  gamma  or richardson ???? .....HT  remeber if you see fins   near the  beaver d**n and  silver flashes  ,chances are there not carp ....now  if you two start any trouble  or fight in the boat ,i'm grounding you both and  no hanging at fm's   place  for a week!!!!

now the  report .... started  bout 5 am  used  a  foam stone flie   orange  and  blue  dun  hair  ...geart on the bass  few  decent river gills  ..swithched  to a  white clouser  working it slow   small  smallies and  1   eye  ;D i plan on hitting the lake  later   working it with  nymphs  and  streamers  then  switching  to  poppers  and  frogs  .....
  gamma get  a  fly rod  to  fm  asap  i have a  decent  reel and  7wt line  he  can have   and he can practice  in his  parking lot!  fm  you  have   a pm  ...later  gents
I have to make a quick run to Ontario this afternoon but hope to be back in time to get FM that fly rod.     If not, first thing in the morning.....which is about noon for me  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 18, 2010, 02:18 PM
gamma  what  weight is it
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 18, 2010, 03:48 PM
Look at you guys hookin the FM up! Gonna be a big fly fishing seminar tomorrow in Pineville I heard. Lots of demonstrations I guess. I may go, since I'll be at Brennan's again this weekend. Gonna yak down deer creek also....see what I can find.


Happy fathers day this weekend....to all ya dad's out there!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 18, 2010, 04:14 PM
(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/tn.jpg)

this  is one of my best clouser patters ...tail is a olive  grizzed  hackle  ...4  or  5  strands  of krstal  flash on  both sides...  with  deer hair on bottom  olive on top ...i have caught  everything  from stripers  to crappies  with this  fly(http://)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 18, 2010, 04:16 PM
the old  trap  already  tossed  some  flies this morning  ;D  ....  rg  i  have to  send  ya  some  gobie  clousers  or  at least a picture   very easy to tie  and  really work!....  now  ht gets the front of the boat!  reason being   we  can cast over the top of  him no problem!  busch beer will be  replaced  with heineken ...Rg has been right about that right along  it's better  beer!  kp i'm putting you in the middle  of the  boat  so i can keep a  eye on you !!!!!  i  want no  bobbers in the trees!   gamma   can't go because  he  can't get up early  enough  he's still tring to be a teenage  rock star  and hoping to replace  keith richards  (least face it he  can't go on forever ...can he????) wait  who's older  gamma  or richardson ???? .....HT  remeber if you see fins   near the  beaver d**n and  silver flashes  ,chances are there not carp ....now  if you two start any trouble  or fight in the boat ,i'm grounding you both and  no hanging at fm's   place  for a week!!!!

now the  report .... started  bout 5 am  used  a  foam stone flie   orange  and  blue  dun  hair  ...geart on the bass  few  decent river gills  ..swithched  to a  white clouser  working it slow   small  smallies and  1   eye  ;D i plan on hitting the lake  later   working it with  nymphs  and  streamers  then  switching  to  poppers  and  frogs  .....
  gamma get  a  fly rod  to  fm  asap  i have a  decent  reel and  7wt line  he  can have   and he can practice  in his  parking lot!  fm  you  have   a pm  ...later  gents
I wanna drive!!!! I'm not sitting behind HT either..... He smells like a stinklog!!!! :w00t:--KP  I'll take the grounding!!!! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 18, 2010, 05:38 PM
That's it...I'm bringing my own boat and the video camera. I may not even fish.

A cooler of Heineken and a couple of "fishing sandwiches".....better than the boat launch on the 4th of July ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 18, 2010, 05:49 PM
Throw a couple of LaBatt's Blue in that cooler RG.... and I'm sitting in your boat!!!! You don't smell like a stinklog do you???? ::)--KP :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 18, 2010, 08:45 PM
KP  you ain't going .yer grounded!!!!! no stop saying yer brother smells like a stink log.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 19, 2010, 02:24 AM
Canadian beer sucks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HGPh8Hjyg8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HGPh8Hjyg8)

(http://ceoworld.biz/ceo/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/heineken_beer.jpg)

Even Trapper agrees with me on this one ;D

I can't comment on how I smell. I AM an old fisherman ya know!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jun 19, 2010, 02:25 AM
I wanna drive!!!! I'm not sitting behind HT either..... He smells like a stinklog!!!! :w00t:--KP  I'll take the grounding!!!! ;D
hey i took a shower. i have not caught a stink log since last sunday. man i feel like i am missing out here ??? ::) ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jun 19, 2010, 02:26 AM
Canadian beer sucks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HGPh8Hjyg8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HGPh8Hjyg8)

(http://ceoworld.biz/ceo/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/heineken_beer.jpg)

Even Trapper agrees with me on this one ;D

I can't comment on how I smell. I AM an old fisherman ya know!

RG
nice RG  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 19, 2010, 03:43 AM
hey i took a shower. i have not caught a stink log since last sunday. man i feel like i am missing out here ??? ::) ::)
And it only took a few drops of water !! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 19, 2010, 11:27 AM
KP  you ain't going .yer grounded!!!!! no stop saying yer brother smells like a stink log.....
WELL.... He does!!!!! If I can be good DAD, Can I go fishing????? HT stop that!!!!!!!!--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 19, 2010, 12:49 PM
Went out at 4:30 this morning with carp on my mind. The back yard stream was up and muddy so I ventured elsewhere. I found carp but couldn't buy a hit. In fact, nothing was hitting...until....I tied on a couple flies Trapper sent me.

The stream was up and stained.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fallfish002.jpg)

The parachute caddis worked to start.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fallfish001.jpg)

Then  I tied on one of his bead head nymphs  and all hell broke loose ;D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fallfish003.jpg)

I must have popped 25 fall fish of better than average size. What a fun day.

Thanks Trapper.
RG


Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 19, 2010, 01:03 PM
i'm busy tying  stp frogs  and  waiting  for it to cool off a bit!  plan on hitting the lake just before  sunset ..... i'm glad  they worked  for you RG !!!! a bent rod is a good thing!......another  trapper tip  and it works  with  foam flys and  mayflies and  nymphs as well  carry a few sharpie markers  in your fly bag ...you can dress a  fly up or even change the color of the  fly!!!!! it's  quick it's  easy  and it works ..... 

i wonder if i can hook a  ac up in my kayak??............ life is  good .....take advantage ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 19, 2010, 01:08 PM
Good tip Trap.
I was in "full wading" mode today. Spent much of the morning up to my belly button in the stream.

Next weekend, I'll be floatin'  ;D

Have fun this afternoon.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 19, 2010, 05:10 PM
gamma  what  weight is it

It's a 9 ft 6 wt   Scientific Angler rod and a Scientific Angler System 1  456 reel.    Never used but needs a good wipe down !   Been hanging overhead in the basement for a couple years !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 20, 2010, 02:22 AM
Buenos Dias you "old Farts"

A farmer stopped by the local mechanics shop to have his truck fixed. They couldn't do it while he waited, so he said he didn't live far and would just walk home.

On the way home he stopped at the hardware Store and bought a bucket and a gallon of paint. He then stopped by the feed store and picked up a couple of chickens and a goose. However, struggling outside the store he now had a problem - how to carry his entire purchases home.

While he was scratching his head he was approached by a little old lady who told him she was lost. She asked, 'Can you tell me how to get to 1603 Mockingbird Lane?'

The farmer said, 'Well, as a matter of fact, my farm is very close to that house I would walk you there but I can't carry this lot.'

The old lady suggested, 'Why don't you put the can of paint in the bucket. Carry the bucket in one hand, put a chicken under each arm and carry the goose in your other hand?'

'Why thank you very much,' he said and proceeded to walk the old girl home.

On the way he says 'Let's take my short cut and go down this alley. We'll be there in no time.'

The little old lady looked him over cautiously then said, 'I am a lonely widow without a husband to defend me. How do I know that when we get in the alley you won't hold me up against the wall  and have your way with me?'


The farmer said, 'Holy smokes lady! I'm carrying a bucket, a gallon of paint, two chickens, and a goose. How in the world could I possibly hold you up against the wall and do that?'

The old lady replied, 'Set the goose down, cover him with the bucket, put the paint on top of the bucket, and I'll hold the chickens'!

 ;D

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jun 20, 2010, 11:52 AM
 ::) ::) ::) ::) i like it RG  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 20, 2010, 05:45 PM
RG  explain it real slow  gamma  don't get it   :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 20, 2010, 05:46 PM
wow  that  can  be  taken  2  ways  and  both  are  probablly true!!!!! :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jun 20, 2010, 05:59 PM
Thats a good one RG. An afternoon chuckle was good. Thanks!!
Hey Trap,  Like Jim on Taxi.... PSSST, Whats a yellow light mean..... Answer...    Slow down.....
WWWWHHHHAAATTSS   AAAA   YYYEEELLLLOOOWW  LLLIIIGGGHT MMMEEEAAANNN......
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 20, 2010, 11:21 PM
RG  explain it real slow  gamma  don't get it   :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
Oh I get it.......and you're gonna get it ! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 21, 2010, 10:28 AM
Oh I get it.......and you're gonna get it ! ;D ;D ;D

 :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:....he  still  don't  get the  double  meaning  .... fm   explain it  to him ....real  slow :rotflol: :clapping:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 21, 2010, 11:10 AM
Trap, who would Gamma fancy more.....the little Ol' lady or the chickens?? :w00t:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 21, 2010, 11:24 AM
i was  thinking the  goose !!! lol hey thanks  that  worked!!!!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 21, 2010, 04:36 PM
Glad you guys had fun with that. It struck me as funny.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 22, 2010, 08:01 AM
FM  your  mail  box is  full!!!! 

i left  you a  message  in one  of  the  threads   THANK  YOU  worked  great!!!! like  ac  in the  truck!!!! if  i load  the  cooler  with  a  bag  of ice  and   couple  gallons  of  cold  water it  last about  3 hours!  i'm  headed  north on a trip  but i'll  be checking in on my  phone ...  how  was the  yak?

rg  if  you can  send  me  your  addy  again i have a  care  package   i'm  putting  together  for  you  along with  some  foam  bodys  ...quilty  bench time    ;D

i hope  to put  a  hurting on some  gills  and  bass  this  week  but  i have  my trout  stuff  with me ,  i think i may need to  start  hauling a trailer with me  just to carry all the  stuff i never use  with me ...eight  fly  boxes  in my  vest  and i  get stuck on  one fly anyways   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 22, 2010, 08:11 AM
Good luck out there Trap, we'll see ya when ya get back to civilization!
That yak was quite an experience out there in the middle of deer creek, getting towed around by Northerns and Bass. Couple times thought I was gonna roll her. Had a ball though.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 22, 2010, 08:17 AM
Oh, yeah......got my flyrod yesterday. Its a 6 wt 9 ft. S.A., Now I need a lesson or 10...lol ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 22, 2010, 07:30 PM
Hang on a bit Trap...I have a box of stuff for you as well. Maybe we should just wait a week or so and mount that expedition ::)

We can trade then. I'm like a little kid waiting for Christmas. I pick up the new "Toon" on Friday :clapping:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jun 22, 2010, 07:43 PM
Practice.... My Dad took an old fly, turned the point up and a little piece of tape on it. To avoid my injuring myself...LOL Wish he had done the same with the lure I was tossing in the yard and yanked back into my forehead.
Just remember, wait to feel the rod loading behind you. Most problems are on the back cast. I had my son lift the line, swing it back and let it lay like the forward cast. When he had it laying out straight then try to complete the motion to forward. He learned pretty quickly. Helps learn the angle needed to keep the line from wrapping up on itself. When you get to the stream work close. A long cast takes a bit of practice. Go after fish in areas you can reach with a 15-18' cast. Double your pole length. Oh and when that first fish raises on your fly just lift the pole up. No need for a two handed hook set lol. You'll still be quick on some, but it's still fun to have them go after your offering. Most of all have fun, and relax. Flyfishing is a more sedate side of the sport. I'm sure you'll have fun!!
Oh, yeah......got my flyrod yesterday. Its a 6 wt 9 ft. S.A., Now I need a lesson or 10...lol ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jun 22, 2010, 07:48 PM
On a different note, I have been seeing salmon rising every morning when we go out for lakers. So I tied a few flies this afternoon. Figured maybe shut the boat down and toss a few for them. Or maybe troll a couple patterns to see if I can pick one up.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 23, 2010, 12:17 AM
Practice.... My Dad took an old fly, turned the point up and a little piece of tape on it. To avoid my injuring myself...LOL Wish he had done the same with the lure I was tossing in the yard and yanked back into my forehead.
Just remember, wait to feel the rod loading behind you. Most problems are on the back cast. I had my son lift the line, swing it back and let it lay like the forward cast. When he had it laying out straight then try to complete the motion to forward. He learned pretty quickly. Helps learn the angle needed to keep the line from wrapping up on itself. When you get to the stream work close. A long cast takes a bit of practice. Go after fish in areas you can reach with a 15-18' cast. Double your pole length. Oh and when that first fish raises on your fly just lift the pole up. No need for a two handed hook set lol. You'll still be quick on some, but it's still fun to have them go after your offering. Most of all have fun, and relax. Flyfishing is a more sedate side of the sport. I'm sure you'll have fun!!

Thanks for the tips 1fish, I read, then reread a couple of times just to sure myself that I did not miss a valid point! Not quite sure yet why I want to venture into such a technical genre' of the fishing world....but I am just gonna follow my instincts and see what happens. We can blame alot of this on Trapper! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 23, 2010, 02:03 AM
Thanks for the tips 1fish, I read, then reread a couple of times just to sure myself that I did not miss a valid point! Not quite sure yet why I want to venture into such a technical genre' of the fishing world....but I am just gonna follow my instincts and see what happens. We can blame alot of this on Trapper! ;D
The way you work your magic on a motor vehicle, casting a fly should be no problem !     ;) ;)  I believe "Technical" should be your middle name ! ;) ;)

BTW......the van runs like new !!!    Thanks again !!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 23, 2010, 02:57 AM
It ain't that technical! You're just throwing the line instead of a lure. The fly goes along for the ride. You can practice the old "10 o'clock - 2 o'clock all you want....the stream is a different place. In the end, you just make it do what you want it to.

You're (I assume) a mechanical kind of guy. So am I. Tools are tools. You already know how to use them.

However....there is one technique that you need to practice and will be the same on any water you fish.

The "Roll Cast"
Joan Wulff, Roll Casting (http://www.midcurrent.com/video/clips/wulff_dynamics_05.aspx)

You NEED to learn how to do this! Or just hire Trapper to tie you an endless supply of flies to replace the ones hanging in the trees ;D

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 23, 2010, 03:16 AM
Oh!....and ....buy a wide brim straw hat.

Helps keep the flies out of your ears ;D
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 23, 2010, 10:29 AM
It ain't that technical! You're just throwing the line instead of a lure. The fly goes along for the ride. You can practice the old "10 o'clock - 2 o'clock all you want....the stream is a different place. In the end, you just make it do what you want it to.

You're (I assume) a mechanical kind of guy. So am I. Tools are tools. You already know how to use them.

However....there is one technique that you need to practice and will be the same on any water you fish.

The "Roll Cast"
Joan Wulff, Roll Casting (http://www.midcurrent.com/video/clips/wulff_dynamics_05.aspx)

You NEED to learn how to do this! Or just hire Trapper to tie you an endless supply of flies to replace the ones hanging in the trees ;D

RG


That's the only cast I use !      As my Uncle Nunzio always said  "Whatsa behinda me, does nota concerna me"  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 23, 2010, 01:25 PM
Oh!....and ....buy a wide brim straw hat.

Helps keep the flies out of your ears ;D
RG

I was thinking more in line of a kevlar beanie for my noggin! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jun 23, 2010, 01:29 PM
I was thinking more in line of a kevlar beanie for my noggin! ;D
Thats what i would go with so the flies[fishing wise] and bugs off and outta ya if you know what i mean!!!!--- KPJr.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jun 23, 2010, 08:48 PM
 :clapping: :clapping: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 24, 2010, 04:41 AM
roll cast is a very easy cast once someone shows you ... there are times you need to double haul to make distance ...it's all good and fm you'll pick right up on it!when i get back i'll stop up,have the coffee on ;D .....1 fish is 100%  right about the feel the back cast load ....trouble is new casters don't know what that "feel"is  .....fm i know your out in the parking lot trying  ;D ;D make sure on your back cast the line has fully extended ....there should be no snap,then your forward motion and drop yer wrist at the end.....sounds hard,it becomes second nature ...HEY A VERY BIG WELCOME TO  OUT NEW MEMBER MR  KP  JR!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jun 24, 2010, 11:50 AM
roll cast is a very easy cast once someone shows you ... there are times you need to double haul to make distance ...it's all good and fm you'll pick right up on it!when i get back i'll stop up,have the coffee on ;D .....1 fish is 100%  right about the feel the back cast load ....trouble is new casters don't know what that "feel"is  .....fm i know your out in the parking lot trying  ;D ;D make sure on your back cast the line has fully extended ....there should be no snap,then your forward motion and drop yer wrist at the end.....sounds hard,it becomes second nature ...HEY A VERY BIG WELCOME TO  OUT NEW MEMBER MR  KP  JR!!!!
Thanks Trap,just like Trapper said roll casting is very easy once you learn how to do it. It took me a couple days to get it under my belt but now it's second nature to me!!!!!--- KP Jr. ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 24, 2010, 05:22 PM
He..He....He!

Enabling another fly fishing addict ;D Next we'll have him tying flies Trap.

Last evening on the way home from my golf league, I saw a couple of flocks of geese feeding along a grassy part of the canal near my home. I immediately made a right turn to park and scouted 3/4 mile of grass for feathers. In particular, flight feathers. Need some biots.

I constantly scout road kill deer for signs of a fresh carcass to collect from. Nothing is safe from the seriously addicted fly tyer...the dog...the neighbor's cat.........OYE!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jun 24, 2010, 06:14 PM
I have a real woodchuck problem RG.... Your welcome to 'em. They have found their way under the house and garage. They won't be around to much longer....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 25, 2010, 01:15 AM
Sorry,
I draw the line at large rodents :-\ I used to plink them at long distance, but that's been a while.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 26, 2010, 09:34 PM
just a  quick  check in guys!  trip is  going  great  stoped  at a  small stream  and  had  fun with  some brookies  ...i can't brag   much  they  would  have  hit a  cigarette  but  (  which)  the  filters  make  fantastic  wings and  post  for  parachutes  RG  ...you can  get a  huge  supple  from kennys  drugs  get a  box  of the  cigarette tubes   that  people  use to roll there own  smokes ...cost about  3  bucks!....woodchuck  actually  has  some  great  fur  for  tying .....i loaded up on goose  feathers   at the launch ...just pick  clean feathers!!! fresh  road  kill  rabbits  muskrats  deer  fox  and  coon have all found  a  path to my bench!  many  things  around the  house  or  fabric store ....even the dollar  stores....no joke you  can  use  a  condom  for  a  latec  nymph!  rubber bands! paint  brushes  oh the  list  goes on and  on.....wow  am i addicted???? 

RG  hows  the new  flyfishing  yachet?????

glad  to see you  working on that flyrod  kp jr  now  teach dad  to  cast  without  tossing bobbers  into the trees  will ya ! :rotflol: :rotflol:

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 27, 2010, 02:16 AM
Read "Rubber Legs and White Tail Hairs", Pat McManus It explains the fly tying addiction in terms we can all understand. ;D

Splashed the new craft yesterday for a short time. Needed to make some adjustments...seat position, oar stops etc. Also worked out the transport method. Picked up the "emergency " items yesterday...spare latch pin, a couple of bolts and a quick link for the anchor to make it easier to detach for transport. Still need to get a rod holder I can live with. Don't like the one that came with the toon.

It's a process for me...I need to work out the details. So far I'm very happy. It's a well built, durable piece of equipment.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Drewdog on Jun 27, 2010, 06:52 AM
McManus is GREAT.......................DD   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 28, 2010, 07:29 AM
just a  quick  check in guys!  trip is  going  great  stoped  at a  small stream  and  had  fun with  some brookies  ...i can't brag   much  they  would  have  hit a  cigarette  but  (  which)  the  filters  make  fantastic  wings and  post  for  parachutes  RG  ...you can  get a  huge  supple  from kennys  drugs  get a  box  of the  cigarette tubes   that  people  use to roll there own  smokes ...cost about  3  bucks!....woodchuck  actually  has  some  great  fur  for  tying .....i loaded up on goose  feathers   at the launch ...just pick  clean feathers!!! fresh  road  kill  rabbits  muskrats  deer  fox  and  coon have all found  a  path to my bench!  many  things  around the  house  or  fabric store ....even the dollar  stores....no joke you  can  use  a  condom  for  a  latec  nymph!  rubber bands! paint  brushes  oh the  list  goes on and  on.....wow  am i addicted???? 

RG  hows  the new  flyfishing  yachet?????

glad  to see you  working on that flyrod  kp jr  now  teach dad  to  cast  without  tossing bobbers  into the trees  will ya ! :rotflol: :rotflol:


How did I guess that once KP Jr. gets logged on here that dear 'ol Dad was going get double ribbin' from you two!!!!! Been awhile Trap, We need to go willow branch fishin'!!!!! ;D Tightlines Gentlemen!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 28, 2010, 01:17 PM
not  sure  who  would  win on  the tree tossin  ...hmmmm :whistling:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 28, 2010, 01:36 PM
Iv'e witnessed your techniques at this!!! Let's just say ....YOUR a little more seasoned than me!! ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 28, 2010, 01:39 PM
Iv'e witnessed your techniques at this!!! Let's just say ....YOUR a little more seasoned than me!! ;D--KP 8)
Seasoned ??       I believe the term you're looking for would be "Fossilized"   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 28, 2010, 01:41 PM
CLASSIC.... YES!!   Fossilized......NOT just yet!!! ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 28, 2010, 01:48 PM
did  you know  gamma  is older  then me    :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 28, 2010, 01:51 PM
did  you know  gamma  is older  then me    :rotflol:
You're hallucinating again  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 28, 2010, 01:56 PM
I was starting to think the same thing Trap!!! Must be the OIL OF OLAY that keeps him looking young!!!! Or is it botox!!!! :w00t:--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 28, 2010, 02:11 PM
You're hallucinating again  ;D ;D ;D

maybe  so  we  both  put  up a  hundred   bucks  and   our  drivers  linences   at  fm's  gamma  =))  your   older :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 28, 2010, 02:29 PM
maybe  so  we  both  put  up a  hundred   bucks  and   our  drivers  linences   at  fm's  gamma  =))  your   older :rotflol:
Why would I want yopur drivers license ?      If I showed it to a police officer, he'd question whether I was handing him my grandfathers license by mistake  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 28, 2010, 02:38 PM
there  ya  go  again  talkin poop
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 29, 2010, 10:19 AM
  the  early  morning  bass  bash   is  here  !   grab  a  flyrod  and  some  poppers  and   watch the  splash  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 29, 2010, 06:30 PM
Oh...alright....If I have to......I'll go tomorrow morning ::)

Boy...the things I do to make some people happy (mainly me)
.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 04, 2010, 03:19 PM
  new  fly  to  try  ...rg   hope  i  can  give  you    directions  you'll understand  ...go  and  buy a  cheap  paper  punch   and  get some  2  mil  craft  foam   punch out  a  bunch  of  yellow  and  black  foam  saving  the  punch  outs  ....  simply  dap  a  bit  of  super   glue   to a  yellow  then black  till  about  16 mm long    and  let  dry ....  cut  this   in half  the  long  way    on  a  #  10  dry  fly hook  start  your  thread   and    end  with  line in the  middle  of  shank ...i  apply a little  super  glue (gel)   over  this  or  zap  a  gap    roll  the   half   foam   cyl  between  your  fingers    add a  little  heat   from a lighter  and   you  can  shape  a  nice  bee  body    ty  on the  hook  in the  middle  ...give  it  a min  for the  super  glue  to  dry   ...  two   white  goose   bots   for  wings  and   rubber   leggs  on the  sides   ,  i  hand  whip  finsih  this ,very  fast  and  fun patteren  and  gills  love  it !  ....  keep  the  rod  bent  buddy!!!!      life  is  good 


(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Picture67.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 05, 2010, 02:18 AM
Nice Trap. You're hooked on foam, aren't you ;D     What size/type of hook are you using?

Very creative :thumbup_smilie:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: SNAGGER on Jul 05, 2010, 03:01 AM


   Hey RG, had to get the fly vice out yesterday, used a fly bobbin to tie off the open shank hooks on the sonars I been using...   

            Hey Gamma, Trapper, Rg, Have a good and safe Holiday,  ;D   gotta go !!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 05, 2010, 05:19 AM
i  have  used   foam  (craft)  for  years  but   i  have   used  it  more  in  flat  water this  year  for  sure ....the  more  one  uses  anything  the better   flie  come  out  foam  will  never  replace  feather   and  hair   but it is a  very  welcome  addition   ;D

 i  read  a story  on the  late  dennis hopper  ...and  see  a  picture  of   him and  peter  fonda   rolling  down the  road   ...and  began  thinking...... :rotflol:

  i  could  paint  my  kayak    like  a  flag  and  rg   could  paint   bright  yellow  flames  on  his  "toon "
two  old  farts    floating  free  down   rivers  and  streams  in  search  of  carp  and  blue  gills  .....  gamma   could  replace  stepenwolf  and  mf  could  help  him  do  a  version   ...born  to  be  olddddddddd....born  to be  oldddddddd.....

mean  while    RG  and  i  could  have  hiden  stashes  of   secret  flies we  could   sell  to  HT ....for  some  reason   ht  reminds  me a  bit  of  phil spector.......  to  replace   jack  nicholson  we  need  KP .....   saying  oh  i  have  a  pfd  alright .......

 the  fame   ,the  money ,  the  groupies .......  ohhhhh  sorry  had  a few  beers........  the  hook is  a  mustad   size  10   dry  fly hook  :rotflol:......life  is  good

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 05, 2010, 09:05 AM
That's funny Trap!! The Yakatoon gang is ridin again. ;D
I was helping cook at a friends party yesterday, so cooked up an 8lb laker my boy and I caught a few weeks ago.
A young guy, another friends boy, asked me how come I always seem to catch the biggest fish every year.
I answered simply, I listen to those that know..... I bet he still is walking around with his head cocked off to the side in a "huh?".....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 05, 2010, 10:07 AM
words  of a  wiseman ...  son you talk to much and  listen  to little  ....a  life  lession  ....he  was right too  he  told me  as  i  got older  he'd  get  smarter ....   thanks  pop !!!!!  bet theres no limits  in  heaven
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 05, 2010, 12:08 PM
You're on a roll Trap...it's too d**n hot to laugh this much.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 05, 2010, 12:38 PM
i
 i  read  a story  on the  late  dennis hopper  ...and  see  a  picture  of   him and  peter  fonda   rolling  down the  road   ...and  began  thinking...... :rotflol:

  i  could  paint  my  kayak    like  a  flag  and  rg   could  paint   bright  yellow  flames  on  his  "toon "
two  old  farts    floating  free  down   rivers  and  streams  in  search  of  carp  and  blue  gills  .....  gamma   could  replace  stepenwolf  and  mf  could  help  him  do  a  version   ...born  to  be  olddddddddd....born  to be  oldddddddd.....

mean  while    RG  and  i  could  have  hiden  stashes  of   secret  flies we  could   sell  to  HT ....for  some  reason   ht  reminds  me a  bit  of  phil spector.......  to  replace   jack  nicholson  we  need  KP .....   saying  oh  i  have  a  pfd  alright .......

 the  fame   ,the  money ,  the  groupies .......  ohhhhh  sorry  had  a few  beers........  the  hook is  a  mustad   size  10   dry  fly hook  :rotflol:......life  is  good


And the name of this sequel................................."Sleazy Riders" ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 05, 2010, 02:34 PM
Tippy fly riders, watch them as they cruise the waterways of the northeast in search of the meaning of fishing....
Staring Trapper, the codgedy old fart who loves to project a rough exterior. Watch what happens when his protege ties and catches fish with his bumble bee pattern....
Also staring RG, the lovin life, "toon ridin", cohort. No carp or rock bass is safe from these two!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 05, 2010, 03:25 PM
fish  you are  our  PR  man!!!

were  not  sleasy  riders  at  our  age  were  queasy  riders ....watch  as  we  gracefuly  paddle  our  way  to  fishing  freedom  and  try  to avoid  jetski's  and  the  general  public  in general  ...we  may  slow  down  near  beaches  to  enjoy the  view   but  with  our   very gray hair  blowing free  in the  wind   and  our aarp  cards  in our  wallets  we seek  the  lure  of the   wild  bluegill and  his  friend  the  carp ....and  if  you  think  this  segual  is  something  wait  till  were  on ice  shanty  and  we  show  you all  what real  grumpy  old  farts  are  really  about!!!!  walter  matthau  look out!


                                                                                                              life  is  good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 05, 2010, 04:46 PM
Just for RG and Trapper.... RESPECTFULLY YOURS TO ENJOY!!!!!--KP 8)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EwgvDvtqQs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EwgvDvtqQs)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 05, 2010, 04:53 PM
i  have  used   foam  (craft)  for  years  but   i  have   used  it  more  in  flat  water this  year  for  sure ....the  more  one  uses  anything  the better   flie  come  out  foam  will  never  replace  feather   and  hair   but it is a  very  welcome  addition   ;D

 i  read  a story  on the  late  dennis hopper  ...and  see  a  picture  of   him and  peter  fonda   rolling  down the  road   ...and  began  thinking...... :rotflol:

  i  could  paint  my  kayak    like  a  flag  and  rg   could  paint   bright  yellow  flames  on  his  "toon "
two  old  farts    floating  free  down   rivers  and  streams  in  search  of  carp  and  blue  gills  .....  gamma   could  replace  stepenwolf  and  mf  could  help  him  do  a  version   ...born  to  be  olddddddddd....born  to be  oldddddddd.....

mean  while    RG  and  i  could  have  hiden  stashes  of   secret  flies we  could   sell  to  HT ....for  some  reason   ht  reminds  me a  bit  of  phil spector.......  to  replace   jack  nicholson  we  need  KP .....   saying  oh  i  have  a  pfd  alright .......

 the  fame   ,the  money ,  the  groupies .......  ohhhhh  sorry  had  a few  beers........  the  hook is  a  mustad   size  10   dry  fly hook  :rotflol:......life  is  good


OH, I've got my PFD alright....--KP ;Dhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySgOds3bzcc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySgOds3bzcc)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 06, 2010, 01:39 PM
who the heck is Phil Spector  ???  ???
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 06, 2010, 01:40 PM
That's what google is for ya nimrod! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 06, 2010, 02:52 PM
ahhhhh ht  never  mind
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 06, 2010, 03:55 PM
Who's Jack Nicholson???? :whistling: Hey Trap, you like those old you tube videos bro?? Thought maybe you and RG would of liked the ice fishing Grumpy 'Ol Men!!!! Tightlines!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 06, 2010, 03:58 PM
They gave me one heck of a midday chuckle KP...Thanks.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 06, 2010, 04:02 PM
Glad you liked them FM!! Who's Phil Spector?? LOL!! :P :P--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 06, 2010, 05:41 PM
just read   spector  pulled  his  crap  in  prision  and  some  inmate   busted  his teeth  right out
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 06, 2010, 06:11 PM
Just for RG and Trapper.... RESPECTFULLY YOURS TO ENJOY!!!!!--KP 8)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EwgvDvtqQs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EwgvDvtqQs)
Very Funny KP:)!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 06, 2010, 06:17 PM
just read   spector  pulled  his  crap  in  prision  and  some  inmate   busted  his teeth  right out
thanks trapper that was just great. i think i can catch more fish then that guy  ??? ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 06, 2010, 06:19 PM
Glad you liked them FM!! Who's Phil Spector?? LOL!! :P :P--KP 8)
hey KP right back at you my freind  :P :P :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 07, 2010, 04:37 PM
just read   spector  pulled  his  crap  in  prision  and  some  inmate   busted  his teeth  right out
hey....at least he had teeth to bust out and not a tooth :whistling: :whistling: ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 07, 2010, 05:08 PM
ouch, that hurt :wacko: :wacko:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 07, 2010, 05:08 PM
That's gonna leave a mark!! :wacko:--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 07, 2010, 05:53 PM
 spanky  finally  got  off a good  one ,  who helped  him??????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 07, 2010, 05:59 PM
T doesn't need any help.......or encouragement.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 07, 2010, 06:02 PM
T doesn't need any help.......or encouragement.

RG

I fully agree with ya on that one RG.......By the way, Who is "T"? ;) ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 07, 2010, 06:11 PM
A local fishing personality.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 07, 2010, 06:29 PM
A local fishing personality.
RG

I'd like to meet the infamous one of these days then! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 07, 2010, 06:40 PM
 "T"  ????  ya  mean  spanky!


(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/220px-Babybrother01.jpg)


Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 07, 2010, 07:00 PM
now  back  to  flyfishing  ...  picking on  gamma  is  fun  but  not that much  sport ..  i  have  told  RG  i  toss  clousers  and  other  streamer  patterns   for  crappies  and  bass  this  is  one of  my  favorites    it's  tied  on a  long  shank  streamer  hook  size  6  to  10  ...i  got the  idea  for  the  pattern   from  salt water  patterns   used  for  stripers  i  also  tie  this  in all olive  where theres a  big  gobie  population ...  i have  even used  it   on a  drop  shot  rig (killer  on  small  mouth)....  the  perch   as  shown is  white  buck tail  tied  forward  yellow   orange  toped  with either  black  or  olive   then  fold  it  back  and  wrap  it  to  form the  head ,whip  finish it   and  apply  some  head cement  ...after  add  stick on eyes  and  epoxy the  head ....  it's a  great  fly   (RG  this is one  you want in yer  box )  


(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Picture69.jpg)



(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Picture68.jpg)



sorry  my  skills  with the  camera   are  not  a little  better
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 07, 2010, 09:07 PM
Nice looking fly Trap. Bet that would work well with a indicator float so it stayed just under the surface.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 07, 2010, 09:19 PM
"T"  ????  ya  mean  spanky!


(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/220px-Babybrother01.jpg)



I prefer to be known as my childhood nick name....................Bluto !    ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 07, 2010, 09:23 PM
I'd like to meet the infamous one of these days then! ;D
Oh you will when he brings that custom 7' panfish rod that he built for you up to the shop tomorrow.   

  By the way, I didn't get your name or initials on the rod yet but I can do that anytime (when I find my lettering stuff)    It's not real pretty but it's very functional.    Just don't show Trapper because there are no blanks left  :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jul 07, 2010, 09:36 PM
You old f--ts are awesome!
This is one of the most well rounded threads we've seen in a while.
More info than many of us young buzzards can even absorb and plenty of laughs to boot!
I'm busting out the fly rod for some dry fly brookie pond action. I'm spending two nights in the woods and I'm determined to master this darn thing!
Where do I start?
These fish are smashing something on the surface even with this brutal heat.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 07, 2010, 10:21 PM
perch   you  might  want to  start  working  some  terrestrals   hoppers    crickets  beetles....caddis  flys    for  sure  brookies  are  most  forgiving ,  once  you  stop  tring to master  it    you'll  enjoy it  alot  more  ,most  of  my trout  are  caught  within  30 foot ....  ya  need  any help pm me    anytime
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 08, 2010, 12:40 AM
You old f--ts are awesome!
This is one of the most well rounded threads we've seen in a while.
More info than many of us young buzzards can even absorb and plenty of laughs to boot!
I'm busting out the fly rod for some dry fly brookie pond action. I'm spending two nights in the woods and I'm determined to master this darn thing!
Where do I start?
These fish are smashing something on the surface even with this brutal heat.
If you can't master fly fishing, well, you can just master bait fishing  :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: ;D ;D ;) ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 08, 2010, 12:54 AM
Oh yeah, forgot to let ya guys know that I spent my weekend camping with family and friends at the old flatrock (jellystone now) campgrounds in Mexico, on Little Salmon River. Brought my new flyrod that Mr. Gamma hooked me up with. Simply tied on a 4 foot mono leader with Some of Trappers self made flys. Took me a bit to get oriented with the most basic flip casting technique I read about and learned from you guys here...... But over the 3 days that I fished, I must have caught over a hundred creek chubs! No kidding, it was a friggin riot for me. Sorry if this bores anyone, cause they were only chubs, but I had a ball on my first outing with the flyrod. Could not ask for a better weekend....well unless I happened to hook a nice trout or something! Thanks for all the info. and help men, Ya made my weekend!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jul 08, 2010, 05:33 AM
Trap,
Thanks a bunch!

Gamma,
I mastered BAIT fishing when I was a kid. Sure, I'm good at it. I can catch fish REALLY fast when I bait it.
But, it gets old. I'm not faithful to bait. Gotta mix it up a bit. I just gotta get me a really big hat so I don't end up with any sores when I'm out there...from flying hooks of course!

fm,
That's what it's all about man! Fun!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 08, 2010, 06:26 AM
 :rotflol: :clapping:
 
Continued good stuff guys!! I really look forward to opening this post in the morning for a chuckle or a smile.
FM yours made me smile. A fish is a fish!! They all hook up the same basically, so if your catching them your learning quick!! Glad to offer any info I can to help another fisherman grow in the outdoor sports. Kind of like when I'm out, like seeing someone else catching as much as catching them myself. Maybe even more, if it's something they have never done.
Slyr, you may be a master"bait" fisherman but I seem to recall your posts on the shanty. Something about getn Jiggy wid it!!.....Trap gave some great advice in his post. I have been messing with floating beetles. Used a little gold fingernail polish and made some Japanese beetles. Something I'm contemplating is to weight the top of the body somehow, so it will lay on it's back in the water. Like one would that just dropped onto the water.
Hard to beat a Caddis now until Sept. I've also had good results from a smaller Brown Dunn, I strip some of the hackle down to make the wings a little more prominent. Kind of like a mosquito. Have seen some real good mosquito patterns but I can't tie one for beans.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 08, 2010, 11:44 AM
fish  for  your  jap  beetle  get  brown  foam    tie  it  in reverse  .....cut  a  strip of  foam  attach it  to hook  shank!  and  really  wind  it  down   then  use  peacock herl  over  this  ....  pull  the  tag  of foam  from  the  back  tight toward  head  and  tie  down  ...now  if  you want it  upside  down  simply  roll it  around  the  shank!  attach  rubber  leggs     and  a  white  piece  of  foam  super glued   so you can see the  fly .... fabric paint  of  sharpie  markers   work  great  and  you  can  get a  gold that matches  a  j  beetle  pretty  close  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 08, 2010, 12:09 PM
Thanks Trap. I tried one the other night with a small spilt shot cut in half and super glued. It would hit the water and then on the first twitch would flip over. What I was looking for, but the weight only lasted a few casts. Going to try to pocket the foam with the weight inserted. Some of my discoveries have been when a fly just doesn't perform as your hoping it to, either not floating, or maybe something falls off of it. And it catches fish. I saw a feeding frenzy one afternoon on J. beetles. The wind was blowing pretty good and they were blowing into the river. The fish were going nuts.
OH and Slyr I forgot one for your ponds. A deer fly. With the heat they are very thick right now.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 08, 2010, 12:21 PM
Thanks Trap. I tried one the other night with a small spilt shot cut in half and super glued. It would hit the water and then on the first twitch would flip over. What I was looking for, but the weight only lasted a few casts. Going to try to pocket the foam with the weight inserted. Some of my discoveries have been when a fly just doesn't perform as your hoping it to, either not floating, or maybe something falls off of it. And it catches fish. I saw a feeding frenzy one afternoon on J. beetles. The wind was blowing pretty good and they were blowing into the river. The fish were going nuts.
OH and Slyr I forgot one for your ponds. A deer fly. With the heat they are very thick right now.




hey try  lead  tape  you  can  cut it  down to the weight you  want  and  either use  some  zap a gap  or  super  glue
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 08, 2010, 04:03 PM
(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Picture72.jpg)

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Picture71.jpg)

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Picture73.jpg)


basic   beetle spider  fly   simply  spin it  on  hook  ...  the  yellow  on  top is   just so i  can  see  the  fly ,  the  bottom  is  peacock herl   which  shines  the  same  colors  as  a  jap.   beetle  ...hope  it  helps  ya   fish  but  post  a  pic  of  what  you  come  up with buddy
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 08, 2010, 04:24 PM
Neat, I will. With the heat I haven't been out to the garage to tie anything in a few days. Maybe tomorrow, it's supposed to rain so maybe it will cool off some... ::)
I looked at the peacock and found the feather you used. Better than the nail polish lol.
Good tip with the yellow foam to see them. I have a problem with them, course I can't see very well to start with, was a master"bait" fisherman myself.........Slyr...... :evil: :whistling:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 08, 2010, 05:37 PM
You mean like these 1fish?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fishing/mosquitos003.jpg)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 08, 2010, 06:01 PM
A few more experiments ::)

Working well I might add.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fishing/workingflies003.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fishing/workingflies001.jpg)

It's a horrible addiction :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 08, 2010, 06:32 PM
 ;D  ;D ;D ;D you guys are something else. can you say addicted or what    ::) ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 08, 2010, 06:39 PM
The bumble bees are trapper's fault!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 08, 2010, 06:50 PM
HT, your an addict yourself bud...who are you calling the kettle black? ;)
Couple pics my wife took of our outing this past weekend at Jellystone campgrounds!

(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/006-2.jpg)
My boy Trevor and his friend playing, I think she popped this pic as I was setting the hook on a chub . The guy next to me is fishing on one of my walleye rods.
He didn't do so well! ???
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/009.jpg)
Kids doing some tubing
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/011.jpg)
My buddys daughter on the bank. I set her up drift fishing with a jig head tipped with worm on her own zebco 404, and she caught about 15 chubs in 2 hrs.
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/008.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 08, 2010, 07:32 PM
  i  caught  my  first  salmon  about  100  yards  down  stream  from there  fm   us  to  fish  and  swim that  when i was a  kid!!!!   that  river  still  gets  a  good  run of  browns  and  steelies   ;D...glad  you  and  the  family had  fun ,  nice  people  own  that  camp too!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 08, 2010, 07:34 PM
  haha  RG   next  i'm   posting  a  whitlock  hopper   
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 08, 2010, 08:02 PM
HT, your an addict yourself bud...who are you calling the kettle black? ;)
Couple pics my wife took of our outing this past weekend at Jellystone campgrounds!

(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/006-2.jpg)
My boy Trevor and his friend playing, I think she popped this pic as I was setting the hook on a chub . The guy next to me is fishing on one of my walleye rods.
He didn't do so well! ???
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/009.jpg)
Kids doing some tubing
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/011.jpg)
My buddys daughter on the bank. I set her up drift fishing with a jig head tipped with worm on her own zebco 404, and she caught about 15 chubs in 2 hrs.
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/008.jpg)

addict well maybe so  ;D some nice pictures there FM  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 08, 2010, 08:24 PM
Yes RG like those. My wings always bunch and look like stumps.LOL lots of work with the scissors. Or I just use a small duck feather and make a pair on them. They work, but a far from show pieces LOL.
Nice beetles. I've done OK with them, but for trout. Bumbles are good for anything that rises. A nice deep pool along an undercut and drift a bumble. Works well.
 
Nice pics FM. You look like you know what your doing out there!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 08, 2010, 11:50 PM
I can fake it quite well 1fish! ;) But, I really had a ton of fun last weekend on the little Salmon with some great people and kids that enjoy fishing. That young lady in the last pic. has been at my heels for the last 2 years, learning every bit of fishing knowledge and techniques I have to give. I truly believe she will grow up to be a great angler! One of those things that makes me proud. ( Her Dad could care less about fishing, or outdoor gaming). But he is a good friend of mine, and he respects the fact that I spend time with his daughter, to instill this passion! Which I truly believe she has!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 09, 2010, 12:46 AM
Yes RG like those. My wings always bunch and look like stumps.LOL lots of work with the scissors. Or I just use a small duck feather and make a pair on them. They work, but a far from show pieces LOL.
Nice beetles. I've done OK with them, but for trout. Bumbles are good for anything that rises. A nice deep pool along an undercut and drift a bumble. Works well.
 
Nice pics FM. You look like you know what your doing out there!!
Tie the hackle in leaving the tip as the back wing. Those are #24 Umpiqua dry fly hooks I think. Good grizzly make a difference.

Those "beetles" are killers for bass and gills. No trout streams in my back yard. I had a carp rise on one last Tuesday. Missed it though. It may have seen it as corn.

Time to test the "corn flies" Trapper  ;D
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 09, 2010, 01:01 AM
When ya make a "corn" fly RG...... You must post a pic. I'm chuckling right now thinking about it.
Well... also after the family and I had grilled corn on the cob as part of our dinner! ;)  Well now I am almost tearing up laughing RG, sorry, but the thought of the bait in my colon right now is cracking me up! :cookoo:
I'm still laughing at myself for some dumb@$$ reason.     Thanks RG, Now I must hit the sack!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 09, 2010, 04:46 AM
i can tell you why you are laughing at your self FM.     (http://smileyicons.net/s/431.gif)    (http://smileyicons.net/s/427.gif)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 09, 2010, 08:09 AM
Yup got my morning chuckle...Thanks FM.
With the cooler temps today going to spend the afternoon in the Hudson. Try out a couple things.
Might even convince my nephew in law to join me this evening. He has taken fly fishing to the next level from mine. I think traveling out to the salmon and steelhead streams every spring helped to kick it up a notch for him. I'm always looking to learn.......
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 09, 2010, 09:22 AM
A few more experiments ::)

Working well I might add.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fishing/workingflies003.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fishing/workingflies001.jpg)

It's a horrible addiction :-\

RG
Awesome Flies RG!!!!!!-- KPJr. :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :clapping: :bowdown:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 09, 2010, 04:07 PM
I'm an amateur...Trapper has tying talent.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 09, 2010, 04:11 PM
When ya make a "corn" fly RG...... You must post a pic. I'm chuckling right now thinking about it.


He thinks I'm kiddin' Trap.
I'll get that box out of the boat tomorrow ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 09, 2010, 04:32 PM
They are good, believe me. I'm ashamed of mine compared to yours. My Dad instilled in me with certain flies, if they are rising and taking them your good. I've never been able to master the patience needed for pretty fies. Make it look decent and go fish with it. Someday maybe the patience bug will bite me.....
Now as far as fishing goes, when I set my mind to learn a new technique or go after a certain fish...See you when I get back is all the wife hears...LOL
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 09, 2010, 04:38 PM
Some say "form follows function"

I kind of like this explanation.
(http://www.library.utoronto.ca/see/SEED/Vol2-2/2-2%20resolved/Testa_files/image002.gif)

Basically...what works IS "pretty"  ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 09, 2010, 05:35 PM
i took    two  gentlemen   out in  the  driftboat  a few  years  ago ...not  for  trout  or  steelhead  not  for  salmon  or  bass  not  even  bluegills ...they  wanted  carp !  ...they  where  here  on  vacation  from  england  where  carp  have  long  been a  sports  fish  , i  had  the  honor   and  pleasure  of  spending a few  days  with  these   men  ,  one  of the flies  they used  and  gave  me  was  called  cracked  corn ...between  RG  and  i  jabbing  each other  over  life  jackets  and  batterys   and  dry  gas   we  began  talking ....   soon  we  figgure out  we  were  to  stubburn old  farts   and  both  shared a  passion   for  flyfishing ....  i  shared  the  cracked  corn  fly  with  RG  and  the  best  part ...  i have  a  good  friend  ...and  rg  ...  looking at  some  of  your  flies  ,you have a  talent  yourself .....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 09, 2010, 05:39 PM
Some times it's good to bury the hatchet......somewhere other than in each other's skulls.

We're all fishers under the skin.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 09, 2010, 07:15 PM
Hey Trap, Do you trickle charge or full amp charge a deep cycle battery?? Would Sta-Bil work better that drygas?? Do I wear my pfd while I'm anchored or underway?? LOL!! Glad to see you guys agree on a few things now... HEINEKEN, Tying flies and CARP!!!!

LIFE IS GOOD!!!!   ENJOY!!!--KP ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 09, 2010, 08:20 PM
Ditto that last comment KP! ;)

Hey Trap...how is that evap. core working for your handmade cooler? Got any pics for us to see your McGuyver capabilities?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 10, 2010, 06:31 AM
  i  will try  to  post  pictures  fm  and  it  works  great  cools  my  truck  down    20  degrees  anyways  and  last  about  3  hours  on a  bag of  ice! 

my  truck  doesn't  have   ac   and  i   wanted  to  be  able to  cool it  off and  my tent   when i  camped   so i took a  cooler    old  bulge  pump  some  hose  and  a  evaporator  core  that  FM  had  laying  around and  a  cheap  12  volt  fan....  cheap  ac  :)   simply  glue  the   bulge  pump  to  the  bottom  of  the  cooler      cut a  hole  in  top  of  cooler   mount  the  evap.  or  heater  core   ,  run  a  hose  to  the  core  ...place  fan  to   suck  air  thro  the   core   fill with ice   and   hook up  to  a  good  deep  cell  battery   ;D....red  neck  ac   and  technoligy  at  it's  finest    just  toss a  gal. of  water  and  a bucket  of  ice  in  and  you still have  room  for a  few  heinekens 

life  is  good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 10, 2010, 06:48 AM
As always Trap, necessity is the mother of invention. I have a brand new compressor from a fridge hmmmm.
Was a warranty for a fridge I bought, the company sent me one, and the service guy brought one with him.
I installed a power port in my Jeep, power inverter, Tubing, a little freon....I could keep my worms cool.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 10, 2010, 06:52 AM
ohhhhh  why is  making things  work  so much  fun?????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 10, 2010, 07:39 AM
I think we all have a little Mc"Guy"ver in us....That empowering feeling of making it yourself, it never is a bad thing to feel good about yourself. Self esteem governs what we project to others.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 10, 2010, 08:15 AM
Ditto that last comment KP! ;)

Hey Trap...how is that evap. core working for your handmade cooler? Got any pics for us to see your McGuyver capabilities?
;)--KP!!   "GOOD MORNIN' TO ALL YOU 'OL FARTS"!!!! and you too, FM!!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 10, 2010, 08:22 AM
Mornin KP. 
Overcast here, headed to the river. Do some wading, and flip a few.
Enjoy the cooler temps!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 10, 2010, 08:28 AM
Suns trying to break through here, overcast, and a little cooler than the rest of the week was, brutal hot. Waiting for a weather update from SNAGGER on his Salmon thread, as to how much rain we got last night. Man, It poured!! Have a great day out there and good luck!!!--KP :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 10, 2010, 09:07 AM
Sun's out nice here in Macedon. Had a great walk and workout this morning. The streams are too high to handle today, haven't settled on an alternative as yet.

Corn flies ;D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fishing/cornfly002.jpg)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 10, 2010, 12:01 PM
  i  will try  to  post  pictures  fm  and  it  works  great  cools  my  truck  down    20  degrees  anyways  and  last  about  3  hours  on a  bag of  ice! 

my  truck  doesn't  have   ac   and  i   wanted  to  be  able to  cool it  off and  my tent   when i  camped   so i took a  cooler    old  bulge  pump  some  hose  and  a  evaporator  core  that  FM  had  laying  around and  a  cheap  12  volt  fan....  cheap  ac  :)   simply  glue  the   bulge  pump  to  the  bottom  of  the  cooler      cut a  hole  in  top  of  cooler   mount  the  evap.  or  heater  core   ,  run  a  hose  to  the  core  ...place  fan  to   suck  air  thro  the   core   fill with ice   and   hook up  to  a  good  deep  cell  battery   ;D....red  neck  ac   and  technoligy  at  it's  finest    just  toss a  gal. of  water  and  a bucket  of  ice  in  and  you still have  room  for a  few  heinekens 

life  is  good
I just drove through Fulton and right after the "Welcome to Fulton, City with a Future" sign, I saw a sign that said.............................
  FOR SALE /  Redneck AC units and under the sign, there was a guy sitting on a bucket who had a striking resemblence to Trapper  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 10, 2010, 12:24 PM
now  thats  funny  i was  driving  around oneida  lake  and  seen  a long hair  chubby  italian  fellow  with fishing pole  and  sign that  said  will  bs  for  fish  !!!!!   :clapping:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 10, 2010, 12:44 PM
now  thats  funny  i was  driving  around oneida  lake  and  seen  a long hair  chubby  italian  fellow  with fishing pole  and  sign that  said  will  bs  for  fish  !!!!!   :clapping:
And you were first in line ! ;) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 10, 2010, 06:08 PM
 :clapping:
This is one of the best posts we have had on the NY section.
I had a blast with a (clears throat) Very bad replica of what Trap had on here as a clouser. Used a small streamer that was pretty chewed up. Laid some deer hair on it. Is ugly as sin... But hit the grand slam on the Hudson.
Started with four really nice chubs, all 10-12" then a few small rock bass. Moved to another spot and hit a nice small mouth a few more rockies and a couple stockie browns. Was a blast.... Learned what they wanted the fly to do while untangling my line from a lost fish. Line snapped back and wadded up....... Fly was dancing along the top below me and wham!!! a chub hit it. Rest of the fish were caught with a cast to 2 o'clock and then drift below me and dance it a little. Wanted to get the boat out tomorrow but may just go back and play in the river. Need to save gas anyways.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 11, 2010, 06:00 AM
I just drove through Fulton and right after the "Welcome to Fulton, City with a Future" sign, I saw a sign that said.............................
  FOR SALE /  Redneck AC units and under the sign, there was a guy sitting on a bucket who had a striking resemblence to Trapper  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
put on your galsses you old buzzard. they took down the sign that said *city with a future* years ago.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 11, 2010, 06:01 AM
Sun's out nice here in Macedon. Had a great walk and workout this morning. The streams are too high to handle today, haven't settled on an alternative as yet.

Corn flies ;D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fishing/cornfly002.jpg)

RG
very nice there RG  8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 11, 2010, 06:59 AM
Not sure we have one of those in NYS anymore.....LOL
Man I am getting old. Three hours on the river with Tyler's 8'6" cabelas rod and reel and my shoulder is sore this morning.....Yeah and turning into a wuss....... :P ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 11, 2010, 07:22 AM
Not sure we have one of those in NYS anymore.....LOL
Man I am getting old. Three hours on the river with Tyler's 8'6" cabelas rod and reel and my shoulder is sore this morning.....Yeah and turning into a wuss....... :P ::)
tell me about it. almolt 9 hours of snap jigging yesterday. my right hand feels like a crab claw this morning.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 11, 2010, 08:03 AM
 :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :w00t:
That's why I bought the boat, I can just drive and leave the strenuous stuff to the boy or who ever I get roped into going....LOL
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 11, 2010, 12:08 PM
tell me about it. almolt 9 hours of snap jigging yesterday. my right hand feels like a crab claw this morning.  ;D ;D

  I'm not even gonna touch that comment but you know where it would go if I did !    Snap jigging  ::) ::) ::)  Are you sure it wasn't from too much zucchini picking ?   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

   
   Happy Sunday Zippy !! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 11, 2010, 06:37 PM
LOL Gamma....
As for the boat, she is no longer. Carb is shot. Can't justify spending money on a boat I can't afford to use.
Have to call Raquette and tell him I won't be up this week. Sucks!!
Really knew better than spend the money.
So those around my area look on CL. will be on there tomorrow!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 11, 2010, 07:55 PM
1fish   send  me  your  address   buddy ...we'll hook ya  up   ;D.....  truth  be  told ... i love  sharing  flies  with people  i also  love  getting  people  flie  tying (or  getting  them  back  in it) ....   bye  the  way  fill the  boxes  with  crickets  and  hoppers  !!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 11, 2010, 09:15 PM
The wife had a cow when I was putting it on CL. I have parts on order. 30.00. Not all that bad.
She was ranting I've worked hard all my life and deserve the boat. LOL That's a first...
Not really, shes a good girl. So I can go toss a few flies the next couple days.
I'll post a pic of my wondrous fly Trapper. You'll get a kick out of it...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 12, 2010, 01:43 AM
Flies can be pretty or just plain ugly. What works is whatever the fish want to eat at that particular time. Understanding the forage base and having a fly that imitates that forage or a substitute, secondary food source, is one key to fly fishing. It's all for nothing if you can't get the fly in front of the fish without spooking it.

Check out this link if you'd like to see the epitome of fly tying.
http://www.grahamowengallery.com/fishing/more-fly-tying.html (http://www.grahamowengallery.com/fishing/more-fly-tying.html)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 12, 2010, 07:14 AM
Simply amazing RG. Check out the may fly tutorial. It shows awesome photos of a real may fly in what appears to be a mating ritual with the fake fly. :o :o
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 12, 2010, 07:30 AM
what  i  find  amazing  is  we  think  "match  the hatch"  then at  times  a  fly  like  a  royal  wolf  just  kicks  arse .... i have  tied "realistic" which is  honestly  very time  consuming  .. i had  people  swat  bee patterns  thinking they  were  real ...i  can honestly  say  it's  not the  exact match  that  does it ....during  a mayfly  hatch  i believe  color size  and  drift are  keys... at others  action ...sound even! ....  my first  flies  i  tied  a long long time  ago  were  simple  wolly  worms .....  they worked  and i  still  ty  them  and they still work..... one thing   new  fly  tyiers  have  which is  great  is the internet!    however  a  basic  fly  tying  course   helps ,  fly tying  is merely  basic's  ,no big  mysterys and the best  thing  even on the  worse days ...sleet , blinding snow  storms ,heat  waves  .....once  yer  at the  bench  ...all of a sudden your  stream side  or  on a peaceful lake .....warning .....it's  extreamly  addictive!!!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 12, 2010, 08:09 AM
Whoa, I gotta take baby steps. Need to leave something to look forward to when i'm an old hoot....don't I :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 12, 2010, 08:11 AM
That's cool RG. Your right, I guess that need to have it perfect we discussed a while ago gets in my way of just letting it be what it is. Hey I caught fish, had fun, made some vacationers day as they watched me land a fish from the parking area. It's all good in the reality of things.
Your right Trap. Something I've noticed over the years of in and out of fly fishing, Those that just strive to be out there are the successful ones. Yeah the fly may not be pretty but it's on the water for fish to see. Those that can tie a picture perfect fly, but spend all of their time doing so and not fishing catch way fewer fish.
It is what it is, my new/old motto. I can't change it, just make the best of what I've got.
Have a great day on the water!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jul 12, 2010, 08:43 AM
Man!
This thread gets cooler  8) with every post!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 12, 2010, 08:47 AM
hey   just  so ya  know  ...anyone  that  can  benifit from my  fly tying  abilitys  i'd  be more  then willing  to  help out,  i have  a extra  vise  and  if i  can get someone  addicted  ahhhhhh  started  i'd  be  glad too .....cost ya  coffee  tho
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jul 12, 2010, 08:51 AM
Darn fly pushers! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 12, 2010, 10:44 AM
Next thing ya know, Ol' Trap and RG will be trying to lure us all in with candy or ice cream. "Here little fisherman boy" :rotflol: :rotflol: :nono:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 12, 2010, 01:31 PM
Next thing ya know, Ol' Trap and RG will be trying to lure us all in with candy or ice cream. "Here little fisherman boy" :rotflol: :rotflol: :nono:
I'll just have to open my jig / fly boxes and it'll get you all to come back home ! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 12, 2010, 02:06 PM
OK so here's your laugh for the day Trap and RG. As well as the rest of the gang. You can't laugh any harder than I did until the first fish grabbed it.
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb161/monthony/Picture021.jpg)
Like I said before, it is a variation of Trappers  clouser, yes variation, that if you have a very extremely vivid imagination, and maybe spent a few hours at rock concerts in the '70's you can see it. ::) :-\ :o
It's a little chewed up now, took it back to the river this morning and they loved it again. This time they wanted it stripped kind of quickly, kind of like a darter. I wish I had the patience for fly fishing like I do trolling. I bet I wouldn't be half bad. Just have to get RG or Trap to tie my flies.... :unsure: 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 12, 2010, 03:54 PM
There's nothing prettier than a chewed up skeleton of a fly. That's why I always leave one home when I'm experimenting with new patterns ;D

RG

I was supposed to work tonight...but the materials didn't come in........

(http://www.fantasyecards.com/ecards/pix/Cartoon/ren-and-stimpy-happy-joy.jpg)

I'm headed back to the stream!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 12, 2010, 04:11 PM
ifish  i  wouldn't  laugh!!!!  looks  like  it  could  be  used  as  a hopper  or  a  muddler minnow!  

  heres  one  of  my  better  summer  patterns    sorry the  cam  doesn't  show  detail  better ,  it's  a  basic  foam  cricket

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Picture77.jpg)

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Picture80.jpg)

 start  with  a  streamer  hook   mustad  9672   in  size 8 you  can   use  what  ever hook  you wishand  size  depending  how  big you want  the  fly

 start  thread   worh  to  back ...  tail  is  black  goose  bots   body  is   black  2mm  foam  which i  super  glue    together    shank is in  between ...  segment  the  body   with  the  thread   working  forward  ...   3/4  way  add    black  deer  hair  for the  wing  point  it   froward   and  wrap it  good!  apply  super  glue  let  try   then  fold  it  back  toward  the  rear  of  the  hook  this  forms  the  wing and  head! wrap  a  few  times add  rubber   legs    whip  finish the  head  and  cement  ....very  easy  fly  and    in mid  to late  summer  it's a  great  pattern....  gamma  jigs  are  for  opportunist  :rotflol: ...now   shhhh  grown ups  are  talking

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Picture83.jpg)

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Picture82-1.jpg)

another  summer  favorite   the  whitlock hopper
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 12, 2010, 04:29 PM
ifish  i  wouldn't  laugh!!!!  looks  like  it  could  be  used  as  a hopper  or  a  muddler minnow!  

  heres  one  of  my  better  summer  patterns    sorry the  cam  doesn't  show  detail  better ,  it's  a  basic  foam  cricket

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Picture77.jpg)

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Picture80.jpg)

 start  with  a  streamer  hook   mustad  9672   in  size 8 you  can   use  what  ever hook  you wishand  size  depending  how  big you want  the  fly

 start  thread   worh  to  back ...  tail  is  black  goose  bots   body  is   black  2mm  foam  which i  super  glue    together    shank is in  between ...  segment  the  body   with  the  thread   working  forward  ...   3/4  way  add    black  deer  hair  for the  wing  point  it   froward   and  wrap it  good!  apply  super  glue  let  try   then  fold  it  back  toward  the  rear  of  the  hook  this  forms  the  wing and  head! wrap  a  few  times add  rubber   legs    whip  finish the  head  and  cement  ....very  easy  fly  and    in mid  to late  summer  it's a  great  pattern....  gamma  jigs  are  for  opportunist  :rotflol: ...now   shhhh  grown ups  are  talk.

     You're gonna make me get my camera out and start taking pictures of my flies and other insect / fish duplicating baits that even RG has never seen !
 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 12, 2010, 04:34 PM
first  i  ain't   making  ya  do  anything  second  why  didn't ya  do it on yer own????  you holding  back   huh ....oh  pre  molded  plastic   don't  count   :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 12, 2010, 06:19 PM
Bring it on!

 ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 12, 2010, 07:03 PM
first  i  ain't   making  ya  do  anything  second  why  didn't ya  do it on yer own????  you holding  back   huh ....oh  pre  molded  plastic   don't  count   :rotflol: :rotflol:
The only thing that's "Pre Molded" around is your brain !    As in old and moldy  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
  You know my hand painting !  Now just imagine that on tiny flies, poppers and other fishy looking creatures that I tied, epoxied, glued, etc, etc  ;) ;)
I can't give out all my secrets so you'll have to use your imagination.................what's left of it  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 12, 2010, 07:30 PM
LOL, My brain is as sharp as a 20 year old. Got the body of a 30 year old, The....
What were we talking about???
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 12, 2010, 07:35 PM
I love this one here. Gamma...put your game where the pie hole is brother! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 12, 2010, 07:40 PM
The only thing that's "Pre Molded" around is your brain !    As in old and moldy  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
  You know my hand painting !  Now just imagine that on tiny flies, poppers and other fishy looking creatures that I tied, epoxied, glued, etc, etc  ;) ;)
I can't give out all my secrets so you'll have to use your imagination.................what's left of it  ;D ;D ;D ;D


oh  i  see  ... i  never had  to  paint,epoxy  or glue  to  cover  up my  mistakes   :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:

were  not  taking  chunks  of  lead   just  feather  hair  and  a lil  foam  ...i  think  you been  smoking that  mold  again  lolllllll
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 12, 2010, 07:51 PM
I love this one here. Gamma...put your game where the pie hole is brother! ;)
Settle down Grasshopper ! ;D   That old f#rt needs no encouragment !!   ;D ;D ;D


oh  i  see  ... i  never had  to  paint,epoxy  or glue  to  cover  up my  mistakes  :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:

were  not  taking  chunks  of  lead   just  feather  hair  and  a lil  foam  ...i  think  you been  smoking that  mold  again  lolllllll
Have you looked in the mirror lately ?    ;D ;D ;D ;D   It's gonna take a couple gallons of epoxy to cover your head ! ;D ;D ;D

PS:    None of my micro creations have any weight added other than a few wraps of wire or a set of bead eyes.  Most of what I used to make were floaters...........................just like you if you keep it up  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 12, 2010, 07:56 PM
 :flex: :pinch:
Cool the wife just made popcorn too.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 12, 2010, 09:00 PM
OK, here's a picture of a few fishy looking creatures that I tied up and painted a few years back.     They catch everything that swims in these parts !     Sizes were from # 14 to # 10

   (http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz318/Gamma-Fish/PICS-HOME771-1.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 12, 2010, 10:09 PM
nice   but  those  are  jigs  not  flies
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 12, 2010, 10:41 PM
nice   but  those  are  jigs  not  flies
They all float !   They're flying fish !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 13, 2010, 01:49 AM
wow   floating  jigheads!!!!  wait   ...they  were  already  invented  ...  darn it ...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 13, 2010, 05:25 AM
OK, here's a picture of a few fishy looking creatures that I tied up and painted a few years back.     They catch everything that swims in these parts !     Sizes were from # 14 to # 10

   (http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz318/Gamma-Fish/PICS-HOME771-1.jpg)
Call them what you want but those are nice looking jigs Gamma. they got ice fishing written all over them.  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 13, 2010, 07:29 AM
Oh, look at HT sucking butt.....I think he is looking for some new ice jigs   :P :P ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 13, 2010, 07:40 AM
Nice looking FLIGS Gamma.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 13, 2010, 07:57 AM
Oh, look at HT sucking butt.....I think he is looking for some new ice jigs   :P :P ;D
Sucking up  ??? who is the one that got a new fishing pole  ??? :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 13, 2010, 08:01 AM
Charisma is what that is called Mr. HT.  ::) Some people just have it! LOL ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 13, 2010, 08:20 AM
YA what ever  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) :-* :-* :-* ;D call it what ever you want  ::) ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 13, 2010, 09:04 AM
So that's what your calling it now FM..... :P
Doesn't smell like charisma..... ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 13, 2010, 09:21 AM
So that's what your calling it now FM..... :P
Doesn't smell like charisma..... ;D

Funny 1fish.....My wife says the same thing. :w00t: Full of it, and smell like it. :sick: :sick: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 13, 2010, 09:29 AM
 :rotflol:
They sure know how to keep us in our place don't they.
I know mine does, she tells me constantly, if crap were brains I would be the most intelligent person on the planet.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 13, 2010, 01:27 PM
wow   floating  jigheads!!!!  wait   ...they  were  already  invented  ...  darn it ...
It's okay trap you'll think of something to invent!!!! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 13, 2010, 01:44 PM
It's okay trap you'll think of something to invent!!!! ;D
He did invent something....................DIRT !! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jul 13, 2010, 02:43 PM
He did invent something....................DIRT !! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Still ain't seen no flies! Cough up suckah! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 13, 2010, 02:47 PM
Still ain't seen no flies! Cough up suckah! ;D

There's some feather and hackle tied to some of those "fry flies" !     Cripes, Ray Charles can glue a hunk of foam to a hook or spin on a feather or two and make it look presentable !   Try painting some of those patterns on such small baits.................with a brush !! ;D ;D
  Trapper shakes like a kid who's had to pee for a week !  He's not able ! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 13, 2010, 03:29 PM
OK, here's a picture of a few fishy looking creatures that I tied up and painted a few years back.     They catch everything that swims in these parts !     Sizes were from # 14 to # 10

   (http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz318/Gamma-Fish/PICS-HOME771-1.jpg)
THOSE LOOK GOOD GAMMA..... IN MY JIG BOX!!! THANK YOU!!!--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 13, 2010, 03:42 PM
  a  perfect  tied   size  24  adams  ....  sorry  gamma  yer  size  10  are  ok  for  meat  fisherman   and  oppertunist  i  guess...   please  note  the  hand  painted   eyes  and  pupils  on  this  fly  i  even   made  the  eyes  bloodshot  :rotflol: :rotflol:

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Picture85.jpg)

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Picture84.jpg)

  the  adams  in  sizes  12  to 18  is  a must  in  every  flyfishermans   box

RG  i    have  a  set  of  mayfly  wing  burners  ...well  worth  the  money   be   very  easy  to  make  a  set  

please  note  this  is  a  fly  not  a  jig  ...............                                            life  is  good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 13, 2010, 05:57 PM
Bloodshot eyes??  Are you calling this the gamadams pattern Trap???
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 13, 2010, 06:02 PM
 a  perfect  tied   size  24  adams  ....  sorry  gamma  yer  size  10  are  ok  for  meat  fisherman   and  oppertunist  i  guess...   please  note  the  hand  painted   eyes  and  pupils  on  this  fly  i  even   made  the  eyes  bloodshot  :rotflol: :rotflol:

please  note  this  is  a  fly  not  a  jig  ...............                                            life  is  good

  From a Self Portrait ?   ;D ;D ;D

OK snapperhead !     I'm gonna start looking for my long retired creations that you would consider a fly !       They're stashed somewhere around here !  Gotta do something to quiet you down because you're starting to sound a lot like Zippy.....................again ! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 13, 2010, 06:06 PM
We have to get you a better camera...

I love tying the "itty bittys"...takes 3 pairs of cheaters...but I can see them. It's an effort in minimalism. The best fly for the bluegills on Monday was a #20 ant of my own  creation. Hope I can remember how I tied them. I didn't put one away as I usually do.

Meat fishermen never change Trap ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 13, 2010, 06:15 PM
Heck I can't even tell which end of the hook to put in the vice....
Tied a few black gnats when my glasses were new. Good thing, can't even see the hooks in my box now....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 13, 2010, 06:17 PM
We have to get you a better camera...

I love tying the "itty bittys"...takes 3 pairs of cheaters...but I can see them. It's an effort in minimalism. The best fly for the bluegills on Monday was a #20 ant of my own  creation. Hope I can remember how I tied them. I didn't put one away as I usually do.

Meat fishermen never change Trap ;D

RG
That's why I believe it's Trappers twin brother...........(or sister) who's posting all the fly pictures ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 13, 2010, 06:47 PM
RG  1  Fish  and  even  gamma  ...  as  i  got  older  size  20 hooks  got  smaller !!!!  so  i  went  to    joannes  fabrics  and   bought  a  clamp  on  magnifing  glass  !!!!!  man  it's  the  bomb!  i  can  adjust  it  any  way  i  want   or  quickly  push  it  out  of  the  way  ...think i  payed  less  then  20  bucks  for  it ...being  a  old   fart  i  have  learned  to  take  advantage  of   anything that helps. RG  i'm  using  my  cell  phone   or  the  web  cam  neither  one  is  very  crisp ....any  suggestions  on a  decent   camera ????  i  have  no idea  what  i  want.
   now  for  mr  gamma  ...  you paint  a  great  jig  !!!  look  great  buddy  ,  but  i  ain't  a  kid  and  it  ain't  my  first  rodeo ...  a  great  paint  job  is  to  catch    fisherman  not  fish and  thats  the  gods  honest  truth  and  we  both  know  it  :rotflol:  ain't  it  a   son  of  a  gun  i  don't  fall  for  your  lines  lol  give  me  a  old  jig  a  whooper   or  cady  jig  in  nitro  glo  i'll  fill  a  bucket  ...so  easy  gamma   could  do it !!!! now  a  exercise  in  trust  you lean  back  and  we'll  catch  you  :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 13, 2010, 06:50 PM
do not ever turn your back on that guy Trapper. good stuff right there man. now lets talk about ice fishing rods man  ??? not much time left  ??? ??? 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 13, 2010, 06:55 PM
God my sides hurt.....
As for a camera Trap. I just got a new Polaroid 10 Mp with ten minutes of video. With a 2 gig card was less then 70.00.
Tiger Direct. Seems to work ok
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb161/monthony/Picture013.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 13, 2010, 06:55 PM
do not ever turn your back on that guy Trapper. good stuff right there man. now lets talk about ice fishing rods man  ??? not much time left  ??? ??? 8)

you  and  yer   boy  are  covered  ht   ...so  is  kp  and  kp  jr!!!!  i'm  going  to  order  some  more  rod  blanks  and   jig  blanks  this  coming week    but  i'm  also  ordering  2   fly  rod  blanks  lol  i'm  deep  into  flyfishing mode ....  no  ht  i  want  gamma  to  lean  back ....  you'll help  me  catch him  right  :rotflol: :thumbup_smilie:  ....nice  1 fish
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 13, 2010, 06:57 PM
Forgot to add, it has Anti shake......
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 13, 2010, 07:01 PM
Trap.....I have a high end camera we bring to social events and places we feel we can be responsible with it, and I also have an 89 dollar Samsung SL30 that I use on my adventures, dang thing has been swimming with me in the rapids at caudenoy dam, been skinny dipping with me in a buddys hot tub....and it's like the energizer bunny. Keeps on ticking. All these pics I post on here are from the Samsung. I went to walmart and bought a carrying case for it also...good investment! ;D

As far as your cell phone pics go, I would recommend cleaning the tar and nicotine off the lens piece first.....it just may take a good quality pic :rotflol: :w00t:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 13, 2010, 07:03 PM
Trap.....I have a high end camera we bring to social events and places we feel we can be responsible with it, and I also have an 89 dollar Samsung SL30 that I use on my adventures, dang thing has been swimming with me in the rapids at caudenoy dam, been skinny dipping with me in a buddys hot tub....and it's like the energizer bunny. Keeps on ticking. All these pics I post on here are from the Samsung. I went to walmart and bought a carrying case for it also...good investment! ;D

As far as your cell phone pics go, I would recommend cleaning the tar and nicotine off the lens piece first.....it just may take a good quality pic :rotflol: :w00t:

  i  quit  buddy  :) been  about  a  week...still  puff  the  pipe  once  in  awhile  or  a  cigar  tho
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 13, 2010, 07:15 PM
Here is a pic from the Samsung showing a couple ice rods an Ol' buzzard made me towards the end of last Ice season.....wonder who made them for me? HT eat your heart out brother..... These Buzzards show me respect.... for some darn reason? ::)

(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/icerodfromtrap002.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 13, 2010, 07:22 PM
got  to  show  ht  some  respect  too  .....  he  proved  his  worthness   steelhead  fishing  with a  3  foot  ultralite   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 13, 2010, 07:26 PM
got  to  show  ht  some  respect  too  .....  he  proved  his  worthness   steelhead  fishing  with a  3  foot  ultralite   ;D

He deserves some love Trap.....  That man does put his time in, and is a genuine good fellow! But isn't HT so much fun to bust on? Maybe even funner than me? ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 13, 2010, 07:49 PM
Here ya go you grouchy old coot !     Guess which finger the # 18 fly is on ?    Salute !

(http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz318/Gamma-Fish/MUSICGEAR140-1.jpg)

(http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz318/Gamma-Fish/MUSICGEAR141.jpg)

(http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz318/Gamma-Fish/MUSICGEAR146.jpg)

(http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz318/Gamma-Fish/MUSICGEAR140.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 13, 2010, 07:55 PM
Your to kind to me Trap. you let that anti shake go....??????
All kidding aside, I've had great luck with tiger direct. Even got free shipping by using Google check out on the Camera.
Good Job quiting!!! I need to bad. Down to half a pack a day, I just don't want to quit and balloon up to 300lbs.
220 is bad enough LOL
WOW Trap, theres those fly boxes you were looking for.... ;D
Just kiddin Gamma, Those are a lot better than anything I tie. Nice looking Dunn's.

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 13, 2010, 07:59 PM
Here ya go you grouchy old coot !     Guess which finger the # 18 fly is on ?    Salute !

(http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz318/Gamma-Fish/MUSICGEAR140-1.jpg)

(http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz318/Gamma-Fish/MUSICGEAR141.jpg)

(http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz318/Gamma-Fish/MUSICGEAR146.jpg)

(http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz318/Gamma-Fish/MUSICGEAR140.jpg)
nice flys there  Gamma are they for looks or are they made for fishing  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 13, 2010, 08:10 PM
wow  ....  i  am  sorta  flattered  ... it's  actually  cute   gamma  went  out  and  got  some  flies   just  so  he  could  hang  out  with  me!!!!!  ok ok  gamma   you  can hang  with the  big  boys   but  you  still  have  to shhhh  when  grown  ups  are  talking  ....ohhh  1  fish    i  was  to  busy  shaking  to  read  what  ya  wrote    lol  ...  i  will  check  it  out   and  thank  you i  really  do  need  a  camera your  pictures  come  out  good .... i  would   like  to  take  some  pictures  of  different  flies   for  myself  and  have  the  details  clear    then  store  in my  journals....  thanks  buddy  .....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 13, 2010, 08:28 PM
Here's a few better pictures of the bugs from my experimental days !     They were made specifically for dumb fish like bass  ;D ;D
  Notice the worlds smallest spinner bait on the top left !   Another Gamma brainstorm from 25 years ago  ;D ;D  

(http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz318/Gamma-Fish/MUSICGEAR148.jpg)

(http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz318/Gamma-Fish/MUSICGEAR147.jpg)

(http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz318/Gamma-Fish/MUSICGEAR152.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 13, 2010, 08:38 PM
nice flys there  Gamma are they for looks or are they made for fishing  ??? ??? ???
They haven't seen action in at least 15 years  :o :o     Anyway, fly fishing is for sissy's...................and guys who drink Hieneken   :whistling: :whistling: ;D ;D ;D ;)


WOW Trap, theres those fly boxes you were looking for.... ;D
Just kiddin Gamma, Those are a lot better than anything I tie. Nice looking Dunn's.


1Fish.    I tied those flys about 20 years ago when my eyes still worked like a hawks !    The fly boxes smell like moth balls now  :o :o ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 13, 2010, 08:39 PM
now  were  talking   gamma  ...basicly  you  have   glass  minnows  almost  a salt  water  pattern  but  effective  on  bass  .....   the  spinner fly  sorry  no  credit  ,they  were  being  tied  way  before  we  were  born  and  fished  in the  famous  catskill  streams  , interesting     the  flatfish   orignally   was a  flyfishing  idea ....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 13, 2010, 09:52 PM
now  i'm not  100%  sure  but  as  i  look  at  gammas   flies  the  bee  pattern  is  simple  a  janns net  craft   ice  ant  lead  jig body  !!!!   gamma  shame  shame  shame  !!!!!!  why  would  you  even  try???????  :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono:  thats  not  a  flie!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 13, 2010, 10:01 PM
Lotta love going down here now!!! Good stuff boys.! :P :P
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 14, 2010, 01:22 AM
now  i'm not  100%  sure  but  as  i  look  at  gammas   flies  the  bee  pattern  is  simple  a  janns net  craft   ice  ant  lead  jig body  !!!!   gamma  shame  shame  shame  !!!!!!  why  would  you  even  try???????  :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono:  thats  not  a  flie!
Must be you're reading every other post or line !    I said it before and I'll say it again........every one of those creations are floaters !
  That bee was made long before Jann's ever had the ant body to sell.   20 years or so to be exact !   It floats......like a dead bass  :whistling: :whistling:

   
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 14, 2010, 01:39 AM
What fly rod blanks did you order Trap?

Fly wars....I love it!

"Fly fishing is for sissys..."  Say what you like about fly fishing...but leave my Heineken alone >:(

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 14, 2010, 04:59 AM
They haven't seen action in at least 15 years  :o :o     Anyway, fly fishing is for sissy's...................and guys who drink Hieneken   :whistling: :whistling: ;D ;D ;D ;)
1Fish.    I tied those flys about 20 years ago when my eyes still worked like a hawks !    The fly boxes smell like moth balls now  :o :o ;D
just for the record i do NOT drink hieneken :sick: :sick:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 14, 2010, 06:56 AM
 :rotflol: :rotflol: janns  netcraft  was  selling  those  ice  ant  blanks  when i  was  in high  school  ..... oh boy  gamma  ...it's  yer  story    tell it  like  ya  want  so   the  rest  of  us  can  go back  to  sharing  information  and  and  discussing  flyfishing .....  i'll  get  you a  new  bluto zebco  pole  later......FM  you been  flyfishing  about a month now ...see  why they  have  flyfishing  areas  only?
  hey  how  come  gamma  isn't  out  fishing  for those  deep water  crappies? today  i'm  hitting  a   small lake  up north  no limit  on gills   little  deeper  water , bead  head  nymphs  i think ......and remeber  paint  is like  bait  it's  for  "OPPERTUNIST" .

                                                                                                                                                 life is good........


Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 14, 2010, 07:09 AM
got  to  show  ht  some  respect  too  .....  he  proved  his  worthness   steelhead  fishing  with a  3  foot  ultralite   ;D
world record ultralite trout was taken on a 4 foot ul rod and and a little fly. the trout weighed 40 pounds 4 ounces!!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 14, 2010, 07:20 AM
and  i think  HT  could  do it !  he  spanked  on those  steelies  ..... and  we  both laughed  our  behinds  off ...kp jr  we'll show  you  where the  place  is, HT  and i  are  just  careful  because  we  try to keep the " oppertunist " out!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 14, 2010, 07:23 AM
and  i think  HT  could  do it !  he  spanked  on those  steelies  ..... and  we  both laughed  our  behinds  off ...kp jr  we'll show  you  where the  place  is, HT  and i  are  just  careful  because  we  try to keep the " oppertunist " out!
That would be fun. Steelie on a 3ft rod. SERIOUSLY!!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 14, 2010, 07:36 AM
What a great way to get my work day going. I gotta start tying fly's now, so I can come up with some valid arguments.

Nevermind....I'd never win one against you old coots. I'll continue reading and laughing my behind off ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 14, 2010, 09:31 AM
That would be fun. Steelie on a 3ft rod. SERIOUSLY!!!!!
Thats right Trapper would not lie about something like that buddy. there is only a small hand full of people in the world that could land fish of that caliper on that light tackle. and NO NET either! its your turn next year buddy - i will run the camera. we can make a video  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 14, 2010, 10:13 AM
What fly rod blanks did you order Trap?

Fly wars....I love it!

"Fly fishing is for sissys..."  Say what you like about fly fishing...but leave my Heineken alone >:(

RG
Must be you didn't get that quote but I meant it to be a compliment  :whistling: :whistling: :whistling:     If you're gonna fly fish, you'd better drink Hieneken and not that sissy beer   ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 14, 2010, 10:15 AM
Thats right Trapper would not lie about something like that buddy. there is only a small hand full of people in the world that could land fish of that caliper on that light tackle. and NO NET either! its your turn next year buddy - i will run the camera. we can make a video  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
You do brake jobs too ?   :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: ::) ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 14, 2010, 10:24 AM
:rotflol: :rotflol: janns  netcraft  was  selling  those  ice  ant  blanks  when i  was  in high  school  ..... oh boy  gamma  ...it's  yer  story    tell it  like  ya  want  so   the  rest  of  us  can  go back  to  sharing  information  and  and  discussing  flyfishing .....  i'll  get  you a  new  bluto zebco  pole  later......FM  you been  flyfishing  about a month now ...see  why they  have  flyfishing  areas  only?
  hey  how  come  gamma  isn't  out  fishing  for those  deep water  crappies? today  i'm  hitting  a   small lake  up north  no limit  on gills   little  deeper  water , bead  head  nymphs  i think ......and remeber  paint  is like  bait  it's  for  "OPPERTUNIST" .

                                                                                                                                                 life is good........



Prove it Pop's !      Janns didn't buy Netcraft until the mid 90's and it was only shortly before that when Netcraft offered that style lead bodied ant..  Matter of fact, it was a company called Sporting Displays out of S.Dakota who Netcraft and then Janns/Netcraft bought their lead bodied ice jigs from.  Same place where major tackle manufacturer buy from.
   Show me an old Netcraft (pre Janns / pre 1994) with those bodies in it and I'll buy your coffee for a week !     

Oh yeah................after you're done catching those gills, stop at the dollar store and buy a bigger hat  ;D ;D ;D ::) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 14, 2010, 11:05 AM
Hey Trapper....been working on some sculpin patterns....whatcha think? Any suggestions?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fishing/matuka004.jpg)

Boy...I didn't know I was so defensive about my beverage choice. Really I prefer Anchor Porter or Guinness drafts.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 14, 2010, 11:10 AM
  from  janns  netcraft  catolog!

Serving Sportsmen since 1941

Three generations of fishermen have come to Netcraft with their fishing tackle needs. With thousands of different components, materials, tools and accessories in stock, we are the largest source of fishing tackle components anywhere. Lure makers, fly tyers, rod builders and net makers worldwide know us as the source for hard-to-find parts.

Serious fishermen know that we stock a wide selection of the newest, most innovative products in the sport fishing community. When you're looking for tackle that you've only heard about, look to Jann's Netcraft.

Jann's Netcraft is a registered trademark of Jann's Netcraft LLC. All rights are reserved.


 i  bought  those  ant  blanks  back in the  80's  now  ya  know  ya  can't  beat me  with  brilliance   so  stop  tring to buffel  people  with  BS.... :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:

rg  i  ordered  two  5  wt   8'6''  netcraft   im6  blanks  45  bucks  each ,i  don't  know  why  just seems  like  the  thing to  do  
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 14, 2010, 11:12 AM
i  like  them  rg !!!  weighted????  make  a  nice  gobie  pattern too  ....impressive
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 14, 2010, 11:35 AM
IM6 is nice..a bit stiffer than some blanks. makes for some effortless casting.

The stream is way up and muddy so I have some bench time before golf. I'm gonna play with a couple of variations on the sculpin.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 14, 2010, 01:03 PM
 from  janns  netcraft  catolog!

Serving Sportsmen since 1941

Three generations of fishermen have come to Netcraft with their fishing tackle needs. With thousands of different components, materials, tools and accessories in stock, we are the largest source of fishing tackle components anywhere. Lure makers, fly tyers, rod builders and net makers worldwide know us as the source for hard-to-find parts.

Serious fishermen know that we stock a wide selection of the newest, most innovative products in the sport fishing community. When you're looking for tackle that you've only heard about, look to Jann's Netcraft.

Jann's Netcraft is a registered trademark of Jann's Netcraft LLC. All rights are reserved.


i  bought  those  ant  blanks  back in the  80's  now  ya  know  ya  can't  beat me  with  brilliance   so  stop  tring to buffel  people  with  BS.... :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:

rg  i  ordered  two  5  wt   8'6''  netcraft   im6  blanks  45  bucks  each ,i  don't  know  why  just seems  like  the  thing to  do  
Not from Netcraft you didn't ! ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 14, 2010, 01:12 PM
ya  i  did!  i been  buying  from net craft  since  i was a kid!  now  i  but  it to you !  prove  i  didn't  ....i'd  like  sugar  with that coffee  no  cream ....  dunkin  donuts  will be  fine  ...and  a  little  hint   don't  talk poop  to  people that know  more  then you(which is  most) ...touche! 

RG  ya  did it now i have to  tie  some sculpins  up ...yer  fault this time!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 14, 2010, 01:17 PM
I keep coffee on all day, now the two of ya's got to get over here so I can witness this Fly war Saga first hand. :rotflol: :w00t:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 14, 2010, 01:22 PM
I keep coffee on all day, now the two of ya's got to get over here so I can witness this Fly war Saga first hand. :rotflol: :w00t:
There's no Saga.  Trappers memory is just getting moldy ! ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 14, 2010, 01:43 PM
oh  gee  ...  i  just realized  ....ok  gamma  RG  is  golfing  and  1fish  is  busy HT  is  working....  you  can be  the  center  of attention now!!!!  show  the  pictures  of the  cute  jigs  ya  painted  and  tell us  about the  deep water crappies  only you  can  catch!!!!  going to  get  gamma  a  set  of  superman  underroos  and  a  bluto  zebco  pole ,amazing  how  someone  could know  so little  about so much and still  come up  with more  poop  then  anyone  i have  ever  seen  .... now  stop  being  a  goof  ball   sneak  a  spike  on one  of  those  makis  and  catch a fish  ....  it  will put ya  in a better mood ......and  those  are  ice  ants  and  we both know it :rotflol:....tomorrow   some else  has to  babysit him
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 14, 2010, 01:55 PM
I'm back Trapper.
Had a awesome time fishing with Raquettedacker. No flies but some fish....will put up a post with some pics later.
Hey Gamma, I've never heard of net craft so couldn't tell by me. They are still nice flies. ;D
Trap, you need to get Gamma out in your other kayak and tossin some mudlers to the rockys. Looks like from the flies he has he used to do pretty well. Maybe then we'll all feel the love. Of a cool morning and a bent rod.
RG, I buy beer once a year. Has been Sam Adams lately. Not quite as eloquent as your choices but not bad beer.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 14, 2010, 04:12 PM
Thats right Trapper would not lie about something like that buddy. there is only a small hand full of people in the world that could land fish of that caliper on that light tackle. and NO NET either! its your turn next year buddy - i will run the camera. we can make a video  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
I really do believe ya. 3 ft. rod + steelie= sore arms!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 14, 2010, 04:14 PM
Hey Trapper....been working on some sculpin patterns....whatcha think? Any suggestions?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fishing/matuka004.jpg)

Boy...I didn't know I was so defensive about my beverage choice. Really I prefer Anchor Porter or Guinness drafts.

RG
Those are cool patterns RG !!!!! :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 14, 2010, 04:20 PM
oh  gee  ...  i  just realized  ....ok  gamma  RG  is  golfing  and  1fish  is  busy HT  is  working....  you  can be  the  center  of attention now!!!!  show  the  pictures  of the  cute  jigs  ya  painted  and  tell us  about the  deep water crappies  only you  can  catch!!!!  going to  get  gamma  a  set  of  superman  underroos   and  a  bluto  zebco  pole ,amazing  how  someone  could know  so little  about so much and still  come up  with more  poop  then  anyone  i have  ever  seen  .... now  stop  being  a  goof  ball   sneak  a  spike  on one  of  those  makis  and  catch a fish  ....  it  will put ya  in a better mood ......and  those  are  ice  ants  and  we both know it :rotflol:....tomorrow   some else  has to  babysit him
Hey Trap, I got some old superman underoos I outgrew. maybe Gamma would like a few extra pair :w00t: LMBO!!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 14, 2010, 05:03 PM
 :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:  yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa  kp  jr  !!!!!! 

and  yes   rg's   flies  are  awesome  i'm  copying  them   now  so  yer  set   big  guy   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 14, 2010, 06:59 PM
I've said it before...

What a bunch of coconuts!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 15, 2010, 07:14 AM
That we are RG. I couldn't nor wouldn't be any other way.
Hey my boy turns 19 today....God I feel old....body and soul...
 
On a fly fishing note, I have always used Muclix for my line dressing. Checked a few places around here and they didn't have any. What are you guys using? And where to get some? Thanks.
(WD-40 is still working OK for a fly dressing) ::) :w00t:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 15, 2010, 08:23 AM
any  quilty  cleaner   and  dressing  ....  shot  of  armour  all   never  hurt  shhhhh
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 15, 2010, 09:08 AM
I have heard that Trap..... ::) :whistling:
Thanks, They had a 6 oz bottle of floating dressing at one place. I could buy two small spay bottles of Armour All for what they wanted for it. The little tub of Muclix I always bought with the pad applicator was a couple bucks. Lasted years, Of course I was fishing as much as Gamma.... ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 15, 2010, 11:21 AM
i  tied  a   few  of  RG's   sculpins   and  a  few   rabbit  hair   ones   that   kinda  look  like  a  whitlock  sculpin   to  steveie  wonder  ...  going  to   run  and  see  if  the  smallies  like  them
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 15, 2010, 04:02 PM
Hey if Stevie says they look good your golden.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 15, 2010, 05:30 PM
RG  yer  pattern  was  approved   by  7  smallmouth   :clapping: :thumbup_smilie:  it's  a  winner   

                                                                                                                      life  is  goooood
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bigwilli on Jul 15, 2010, 06:00 PM
Because of this thread I have dipped my foot into the old f--t's play pool for the first time in 45 years. It took a little retraining of the old muscle memory but it soon started to come back to this old f--t. Thanks a lot for reminding me what great fun it  is  to tangle with Mr. Smallie on a fly rod.
     I used to do quite a bit of this on the North and South branch of Sandy Creek as a teenager. ;D ;D ;D(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c11/tealtaker/7-15-2010_1536.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 15, 2010, 06:05 PM
Boy...you're too quick. Here's a couple of others that may "kick it up a notch.....BAM!"


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fishing/matukavariation004.jpg)

Have fun. I can list materials if anyone wants them. I could do a step by step if it helps anyone.

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 15, 2010, 06:07 PM
Great stuff Bigwilli...makes my day to see an "Old Fart" smile like that ;D

We're always happy to enable another fly addict.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 15, 2010, 06:09 PM
Because of this thread I have dipped my foot into the old f--t's play pool for the first time in 45 years. It took a little retraining of the old muscle memory but it soon started to come back to this old f--t. Thanks a lot for reminding me what great fun it  is  to tangle with Mr. Smallie on a fly rod.
     I used to do quite a bit of this on the North and South branch of Sandy Creek as a teenager. ;D ;D ;D(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c11/tealtaker/7-15-2010_1536.jpg)
fantastic right there for sure  :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:  see RG-Trapper you guys tend to inspire alot of people including myself  ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 15, 2010, 06:11 PM
bigwilli  welcome  to  the   club ....     we  might  be  as  good  as  we  once  was  ...but  we  sure  have  fine   ...glad   you   got  back in man   ,nice  fish
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 15, 2010, 06:13 PM
ahhhhh  breaking  into  ginny  hen   now  huh   Rg  ...you  don't  play  fair  ...  thats  why  i like  you !!!!   as   old  farts   theres  on  simple  rule  " if  ya  ain't  cheatin  ,  ya  ain't  tring!"

                                                                                                                           life  is  good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 15, 2010, 06:15 PM
bigwilli  welcome  to  the   club ....     we  might  be  as  good  as  we  once  was  ...but  we  sure  have  fine   ...glad   you   got  back in man   ,nice  fish
7 small mouths  ??? i thought the limit was five  ??? sorry now i sound like your buddy gamma  ??? ??? ??? ???  i dont know how to count sometimes either. oh ya that is when i am ice fishing  ;D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 15, 2010, 06:30 PM
i  let  em  all  go  except  for  2  i  invited  to  dinner  ,   besides  i don't  think  gamma  has  ever  caught  over  a  limit  anyways   :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 15, 2010, 06:34 PM
Trap, Jr. just informed me that GAMMA has a collection of SUPERMAN UNDEROOS coming!! LMAO!! What a kid!!--KP 8) GAMMA uses fatheads for smallies!! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 15, 2010, 06:36 PM
I run out of fingers at 4...using the other hand for counting.........maybe we need a "fish calculator"

I always likes spots Trap ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 15, 2010, 07:26 PM
Because of this thread I have dipped my foot into the old f--t's play pool for the first time in 45 years. It took a little retraining of the old muscle memory but it soon started to come back to this old f--t. Thanks a lot for reminding me what great fun it  is  to tangle with Mr. Smallie on a fly rod.
     I used to do quite a bit of this on the North and South branch of Sandy Creek as a teenager. ;D ;D ;D(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c11/tealtaker/7-15-2010_1536.jpg)

I think that I may have just got a tear in my eye reading this post...... Welcome aboard bigwilli! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 15, 2010, 07:30 PM
Oh, by the way....watch out for a few certain people on here, including myself ;D But the trouble makers are Trap, HT, Gamma, RG, 1Fish, prchslyer, SCG, Snagger, KP, and now KP JR.. Did I miss any one else?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 15, 2010, 07:43 PM
Trouble maker....I'm a trouble maker ......and now lumped in with those incorrigible old reprobates.

Not sure what to think of that :-\

Gotta work on my image.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 15, 2010, 07:58 PM
HT  ??? no do not include me on that. from what i saw it is all gammas fault  ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: FISH ON on Jul 15, 2010, 08:06 PM
AND ME! FOR LAST NIGHTS POST.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 15, 2010, 10:02 PM
Wow!! As the youngster I get labled....Aw crap lumped with the like of you I could be doing a heck of a lot worse.
I'm an old fart and proud of it. ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 16, 2010, 02:33 AM
HT  ??? no do not include me on that. from what i saw it is all gammas fault  ;D ;D
No doubt !   A sand flea can't cause the kind of rukus we caused  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 16, 2010, 05:26 AM
Unless you've ever fallen asleep on a beach in Florida after playing a gig for a party and consumed mass quantities of Hawian sunsets. You have no idea the trouble sand fleas can cause.....
Um I heard about it one time... ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 16, 2010, 05:41 AM
OK fly rod is packed, cooler is packed. Ready to go for the weekend!!
Headed to a small lake with the group I ice fish with. Should be a good time.
Trap, you'll have to keep things quiet for me.....LOL
Going to try for some lunker smallies with some poppers I picked up, yes bought them.....I know don't be a hater...LOL I am going to work on making my own sometime.
May have to sneak away to try a steam close by for some brookies though.
Have a fun and safe weekend!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 16, 2010, 07:33 AM
1  fish  i'd  use   pre  made  poppers    if  i  had  to   quick  but ...  again   RG's  and  my  favorite  flyshop  JOANNES  FABRICS  you  can   buy  a  dozen  very  tiny   corks  which  are  perfect !!!!  also   the  pre  made  popper  bodys  ...you  cand   paint  them  or   just  use   sharpie  makers  ...  2  mm  sheet  foam   can  be  formed  into  a  popper  .....or   the  old  time  deer hair popper !!!!  ohhhhh   crease   flies   are  awesome   and  very  easy  to  tie  ,  orginally  a  salt  water  patter  i  use  them  for  bass    all the  time  ...pictures  to  follow
                                               
                                                                                                                                                     life  is  good
                                                                                                                                                     and  so is  flyfishing

ps  gamma   find  me that  guitar  ya  old   hippe  fart
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 16, 2010, 07:46 AM
(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Picture86.jpg)

these  flies   have   been  approved   by   most  bass  in my  neighborhood   ;D

                                                                                                                                 life  is  good




KNOCK  THE  SLIM OFF EM  1FISH!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 16, 2010, 12:24 PM
1  fish  i'd  use   pre  made  poppers    if  i  had  to   quick  but ...  again   RG's  and  my  favorite  flyshop  JOANNES  FABRICS  you  can   buy  a  dozen  very  tiny   corks  which  are  perfect !!!!  also   the  pre  made  popper  bodys  ...you  cand   paint  them  or   just  use   sharpie  makers  ...  2  mm  sheet  foam   can  be  formed  into  a  popper  .....or   the  old  time  deer hair popper !!!!  ohhhhh   crease   flies   are  awesome   and  very  easy  to  tie  ,  orginally  a  salt  water  patter  i  use  them  for  bass    all the  time  ...pictures  to  follow
                                               
                                                                                                                                                     life  is  good
                                                                                                                                                     and  so is  flyfishing

ps  gamma   find  me that  guitar  ya  old   hippe  fart
I find them on a regular basis !    But just like women, you just can't put money out for a guitar for another person !
  I know what you want.   Put the greenbacks in my hand and I'll deliver !     Then, if you don't like the guitar, YOU'RE stuck with it  ;D ;D ;D ;D
  I've had no dissapointed customers so far ! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 16, 2010, 12:54 PM
Oh, by the way....watch out for a few certain people on here, including myself ;D But the trouble makers are Trap, HT, Gamma, RG, 1Fish, prchslyer, SCG, Snagger, KP, and now KP JR.. Did I miss any one else?
You got that right! ;D What about Stormy? ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 16, 2010, 05:04 PM
Not cool to sell on the site...please do that in private.

Trapper, I'd like to see your version of that sculpin pattern.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 16, 2010, 06:29 PM
  gamma    np   bro   i'll hook  up  with  ya  next  week    rg  i'm playing  with the  new   camera  now! i'll  have  them   posted  tonight   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 16, 2010, 06:34 PM
Not cool to sell on the site...please do that in private.

Trapper, I'd like to see your version of that sculpin pattern.
RG

Thought you retired from modding, and were one of us now?? ;D Just picking
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 16, 2010, 07:51 PM
rg  i  tied  your  patterns  as   close   as  i  could!   they  are  really  good !!!  this  is  a  basic  rabbit  strip  sculpin pattern.   tied   natural  i  use   a  set  of   ginny  hen  feathers   for  side   barbs   you  can  adust  these  and  zap  a  gap  so  they  stay  in  place ...  


(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Picture88.jpg)


(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Picture87.jpg)


  size  #8  streamer  hook strip  of  tan  rabbit  skin   natural  rabbit  dubbing  ...naatural  deer  hair  collar   2  genny  hen  feathers   ...red   deer  hair   for  gills  ...  spun  and   clipped   deer   or  elk  hair  head  5  mm   doll  eyes  super  glued  on  ....ited  in  differnt  collars  this  can  repersent  a  sculpin ...bullhead...polly  wog....gobie
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 16, 2010, 07:52 PM
playing  with  my  camera  now  ...  i'm  better  at  spinning  feathers  and deer  hair  then  anything  technical  :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 16, 2010, 11:07 PM
Looking superb there Trap!

Never underestimate your skills my friend.

Keep doing what you are doing, and the things that make an Ol' buzzard happy.

Thanks for the wisdom you guys have helped to instill into my ;) solid gourd!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 17, 2010, 08:19 AM
Thought you retired from modding, and were one of us now?? ;D Just picking
Just saying............. :-\

I didn't push the button did I?

Trapper...it's always fun to see the variations, I have some bench time today while I take care of some mundane home tasks...the wife is still in vegas.....Guess I better do laundry...or go commando  :o

Have some fun with the camera.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 17, 2010, 10:52 AM
I hear ya RG.....you are right.

My seven year old boy and I are stag this weekend. Toilet seat went up this morning, and will stay up till monday. Mookie already found his new water dish also. Dang dog. Think we'll go to the nationals....get some greasy food, Check out the nice rides....and bikini tops.

As trapper always says......Life is good!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 17, 2010, 12:42 PM
cruise  up  erie  blvd  to  fm!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 17, 2010, 07:14 PM
ok  i  got  my  camera   and  this  is  just  a  shot  of  the  flys  i  posted  before   just  tring  to  show  more  detail  and  get  use  to it

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Picture.jpg)


i  think  it's   much  better  thanks  for  the  help  RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 17, 2010, 10:29 PM
Did Trap get a new camera? The quality of them pics are way better Trap!........And your fly's are nice also ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 17, 2010, 10:38 PM
i  did   fm  i  think  it's  sharper  and  better  detail  now  i  just  have  to  get  use  to it
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 17, 2010, 10:41 PM
i  did   fm  i  think  it's  sharper  and  better  detail  now  i  just  have  to  get  use  to it

Did you mention that you were unavailable to go pan fishing tomorrow?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 18, 2010, 01:16 AM
Love the ladybug ;D

Much better Trapper.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 18, 2010, 12:06 PM
i  been  bothered   by  something!  and  thats  the  fact  gamma  doesn't  fly  fish !!!  so  i  decided   to  make  it  easy  for  him!    know  i  know  that long  haired  old  fart   can  play  a  guitar  !   so  here  it  is  ...  i  named  this  fly   the  "gamma  slamer"

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Picture033.jpg)


p.s.  i  tied  it  on a  barbless  hook  so  we  can get it out  of  yer  ear  :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 18, 2010, 12:09 PM
Now that right there just tickled me pink!!!! Trap....you are one demented son of a gun! :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 18, 2010, 01:42 PM
i  been  bothered   by  something!  and  thats  the  fact  gamma  doesn't  fly  fish !!!  so  i  decided   to  make  it  easy  for  him!    know  i  know  that long  haired  old  fart   can  play  a  guitar  !   so  here  it  is  ...  i  named  this  fly   the  "gamma  slamer"


p.s.  i  tied  it  on a  barbless  hook  so  we  can get it out  of  yer  ear  :rotflol:
That's good for the smile / laugh of the day !  ...............................Although, I'm starting to get concerned with Trappers mental stability ;D ;D ;D    His imagination has run wild or run out of ideas  ;D ;D ;D ;D
  Now I feel guilty so I'm gonna have to tie a fly that looks like Trapper and I'll call it Grandpa's Whiskers   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 18, 2010, 01:57 PM
after  doing  realistic  tying  wasp ....and  such   a  lady  that  collected  elephants   look  at  them  and  liked  then  i  took  a  day  spinning  deer  hair  and  playing  around  and  trimimg  till  i  tied  a  elephant! one  of  my most  creative  flies  lol

gamma  you  have  to  tune  this  one  lollllllll
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 18, 2010, 02:15 PM
Way funny Trapper!!!
I'm back from the trip, a lot tired, a lot sore(will explain that one later) and we did catch some fish. But man did we eat!! Going to take a nap right now, got around 5-6 hours of sleep since Friday. Was falling asleep driving home. Be back later.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 18, 2010, 03:38 PM
i  been  bothered   by  something!  and  thats  the  fact  gamma  doesn't  fly  fish !!!  so  i  decided   to  make  it  easy  for  him!    know  i  know  that long  haired  old  fart   can  play  a  guitar  !   so  here  it  is  ...  i  named  this  fly   the  "gamma  slamer"

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Picture033.jpg)


p.s.  i  tied  it  on a  barbless  hook  so  we  can get it out  of  yer  ear  :rotflol:
Better patent that one Trap.... ONE OF A KIND RIGHT THERE!!!--KP ;)  Great Job!! 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 18, 2010, 04:40 PM
Better patent that one Trap.... ONE OF A KIND RIGHT THERE!!!--KP ;)  Great Job!! 8)
:thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:  try to top that one GAMMA :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) :P :P :P
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 18, 2010, 04:41 PM
oh  no  kp  i'm  handing  that  to  gamma!  and  he's  going  to  get  his  long  haired  old  butt  out  fishing  with  us!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 18, 2010, 09:29 PM
Still trying Trap.....One of these days, I'llget that Ol' son of a gun out there with me! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 19, 2010, 07:18 AM
Went camping with 7 good friends this weekend. Left Friday morning at around 9am. Right after we had stopped to get last minute supplies at Stewarts and a cup of coffee. Had stuff to put in the cooler so leaned in the window of the truck to set my cup in the holder. Leaned on the door and pop!! Think I broke a rib..... Guess I "am" getting old!!...Still hurting pretty good. Made the best of it, didn't want to seem like a wimp...LOL Sleeping on the ground was out of the question Friday night so I slept in my truck with the seat reclined. Riding in the back of the row boat on very short seats was another adventure. Looked like the lake was turning over on Friday night. After raining all day while we tried to set up camp. Tried to throw a popper but wasn't happening with the rib. We caught a few smallies and some perch. All trolling for trout LOL. Saturday and Sunday it was nice for about an hour after sunrise then the wind would come up. Rowing was yet another extremely painful experience. But we had fun, ate like kings including shrimp scampi. Planning another trip in September. Maybe I'll be healed up by then and can work the fly rod...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 19, 2010, 08:00 AM
1fish ...this  concerns  me  you  should  go  get  check a  broken  rip  is a  dangerous  thing  you  don't  want a  collapsed  lung  buddy....hope  you  feel better  my  friend
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 19, 2010, 08:31 AM
Thanks Trap, It isn't moving, can't feel it grinding like some I've had.
I have been taking it easy, not lifting a lot or doing anything strenuous.
They don't do much for them any more, used to wrap you up but learned that causes detachment more often that just letting it heal. I'm old but I'm tough...LOL OWWWWIE :'(
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 19, 2010, 11:18 AM
just  want  ya  health  1fish,  were  hooking  up   and  fishing  buddy!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 19, 2010, 11:32 AM
I would really like that Trap. Maybe I can get out that way this fall to try for salmon. Never been, would be fun just to watch or video some of you experts. Maybe you can even talk Gamma into fishing..... ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bogmanjr on Jul 19, 2010, 02:18 PM
I have heard drinking lot's of cranberry juice helps a broken rib, If you were to drink it on a certain little pond I know of in Maine it work's even better. Hope your on the mend Oletimer, Old age is not for wimp's. ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 19, 2010, 02:31 PM
What do I mix with the cranberry juice? Have two bottles in the fridge. Hmmm have to check out the mixer site for a little pain relief this evening....
As long as there is no rowing involved Bogman were good to go... Thought we were going to have to wait until dark Saturday night to get into the launch. The poor young guy in the boat with me was trying to row into the wind with me(220lbs) and the battery and fish finder in the back of the boat. I finally told him to get in the front and I would row. We made it in, but I was done for the day...Probably not the smartest thing to do but a three mile walk around the lake back to camp didn't sound great either.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 19, 2010, 03:26 PM
I would really like that Trap. Maybe I can get out that way this fall to try for salmon. Never been, would be fun just to watch or video some of you experts. Maybe you can even talk Gamma into fishing..... ;D
GAMMA DON'T KNOW HOW TO FISH...... ONLY WISHES HE COULD FISH!!!!!! 8)--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 19, 2010, 04:32 PM
Broke a couple ribs last summer camping at Fish Creek up there 1fish. Last time I play a game of adult kickball. Took the rest of the summer for the pain to go away.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 19, 2010, 08:30 PM
It's better this afternoon, still there but getting better. Thanks FM, we'll take it easy for a while.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 20, 2010, 07:26 AM
1fish  ...  don't  talk  back   fm  and  i  both  have   mr KIA  degrees  .....    first  you  need     to  drink  plenty ,....  i  suggest   a  good    brand  beer  ,  heineken  will   work ....  second  i  want  you  relaxing !   i  suggest  sitting  at  a  fly  bench  ... this  will  relax  you  physically   and  refreash  your  spirts  as   you  will  be   productive ...  soon  you  to  will   earn  a  degree   in  MR  KIA   (  mister   know  it  all)  ....  you   just  take  care  of  yer  self  mister  ....want  to  see  you  back  in  action  soon! 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jul 20, 2010, 07:31 AM
Oh man trap! That is a classic!
I've never heard of Mr KIA. ::)
Maybe I'm a lil young.
I'll be writing that one down for use at a later date. ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 20, 2010, 07:53 AM
i  use  to   be  in  search  of  new  patterns    awaiting  new  flyfishing   articals   to  come  out,  thanks  to  the  internet   thats   not  the  case  anymore ...  here  is  a   link     it  take  you   to  a  site  which  i  get  many  patterns  and   tips

http://www.flyfishingconnection.com/patterns/fly_tying.php

hope  you  guys  enjoy  it   and  it  helps  you  out  

http://www.flyfishingconnection.com/patterns/fly_tying.php (http://www.flyfishingconnection.com/patterns/fly_tying.php)


  hey  prchsylr    guess  i  did  it  huh   :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jul 20, 2010, 08:17 AM
Sweetness! 'Ya got it Trap!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 20, 2010, 12:25 PM
1 Fish,
I feel your pain! I've suffered bruised, separated and broken ribs several times over the years. The last was an AtV incident during which the machine ( for no apparent reason other than spite) decided to end up squarely on top of me  after throwing me off backwards. I separated a rib on my left side and can feel phantom pain as I type this. Sorry to say, but it took nearly a year to heal. I found an elastic chest band about 10" wide that helped support the injured parts during recovery.

On another occasion I was chasing down my beagle, Miss Beasley, who escaped her collar and took off like a beagle bullet for the woods. My wife, the dog and I had been relaxing in the pool with some summer beverages, and when the beagle took off I tackled her and slammed into a tree stump resulting in several bruised ribs and a serious hangover. (I would have had the hangover anyways)

Ibuprofen will help reduce the swelling , I don't like to eat that stuff so I went with ice packs. Take 3 parts water and 1 part isopropyl alcohol   
In a freezer bag (I use a vacuum seal bag) and freeze. It will turn into a nice slush that will form to the area. Put it in a towel and ice for 20 minutes or so as many times a day as you can. This will help a lot!

Gradually start stretching. Parts tend to contract as they heal so you need to stretch it out when it becomes tolerable. NO HEAVY LIFTING! this WILL impede the healing process.

While quantities of consumed alcohol may well make you feel better in general, be careful of that loss of balance ::) Knob Creek Bourbon would be my prescription.....and a comfy chair ;D......maybe a nice Onyx cigar....about a 50 ring Churchill ;D

MMMMMmmmmmmmmmm!

I speak from a lot of unfortunate experience.....mostly self inflicted.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 20, 2010, 12:30 PM
Rolling on the floor laughing doesn't help RG!! OOOWWWWWIIIEEE :rotflol:
I was feeling a bit better yesterday, but must have done something while sleeping last night. Dang thing is throbbing today. But I still took my walk, had my coffee with the gang at Stewies. The over 70 crowd is in on Tuesday mornings. They made me an honorary member today seeing how my bones are breaking from my own body weight. LOL
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 20, 2010, 12:38 PM
According to all my friends, family, and people I meet on the street I epitomize Mr. KIA. LOL
Way to go with the links Trap!! Your almost a full fledged internet guru!! Now when you start posting via your blackberry.....
Thought about the fly table, but it involves, a.) getting off the couch, and b.) holding my arm up at a very uncomfortable angle for far to long. Got to remember, I only tie one fly every two hours...... Even then only Stevie would know what it was by looking at it....LOL
God gotta stop laughing..... :pinch: :pinch: :P
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 20, 2010, 03:43 PM
i  use  to   be  in  search  of  new  patterns    awaiting  new  flyfishing   articals   to  come  out,  thanks  to  the  internet   thats   not  the  case  anymore ...  here  is  a   link     it  take  you   to  a  site  which  i  get  many  patterns  and   tips

http://www.flyfishingconnection.com/patterns/fly_tying.php

hope  you  guys  enjoy  it   and  it  helps  you  out  

http://www.flyfishingconnection.com/patterns/fly_tying.php (http://www.flyfishingconnection.com/patterns/fly_tying.php)


  hey  prchsylr    guess  i  did  it  huh   :rotflol: :rotflol:
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: By George Trap, You got it!!!!--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 20, 2010, 03:48 PM
Hey...I saw the link (one saved in my favorites already) but it didn't register that Trapper posted that link........No stopping him now :thumbup_smilie:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 20, 2010, 03:51 PM
i'm  a  gosh  darned   internet  guru  now   RG !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 20, 2010, 03:57 PM
Cool Trapper! You can take over as MOD on the shanty this season....someone's gonna have to replace me.

1 fish,
Laughter is good for the circulation and thus promotes healing ;D

I have breakfast in my friends restaurant every day I can as I have for the last 25 years or so. Is there anything more fun than a bunch of grumpy old farts doing their breakfast routines together?  I seem to be the resident "KIA" of our group. The guys are always asking me how to do something. I give them an answer....even if it's probably wrong ;D

Breakfast buddies are the best!
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 20, 2010, 04:05 PM
  YA  ALL  HEAR  THAT !!!  i'm  going  to  be  a  ice  shanty  mod  ....  ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  gammaaaaaaaaaa   :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 20, 2010, 08:47 PM
  YA  ALL  HEAR  THAT !!!  i'm  going  to  be  a  ice  shanty  mod  ....  ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  gammaaaaaaaaaa   :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
Cool Trapper! You can take over as MOP in the shanty this season....someone's gonna have to replace me.

Hey Trapp.   Clean your glasses.  It didn't say Mod ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 20, 2010, 08:53 PM
Good at circulating the pain from my right side through the left up to the shoulder and out my back LOL.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jul 20, 2010, 08:56 PM
By golly Rg! We've created a monster!
Two posts in a row with everything spelled correctly! ;D
What's next? Periods and commas?
All in fun man. Most everything I've learned about these overpriced digital boxes has been on the forums.
If not for fishing, I would have no use for them.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 21, 2010, 02:10 AM
Good at circulating the pain from my right side through the left up to the shoulder and out my back LOL.....
If age doesn't teach you anything else, you learn that the pain means you're still kicking!

Trapper, I'd never ask to inflict that particular pain (moderating) on you. You'd end up hating me........again ;D Thanks for the tips on spinning deer hair. I' found a good deal on a bunch of elk hair in different colors on ebay.

The addiction continues.  :P

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jul 21, 2010, 04:58 AM
If age doesn't teach you anything else, you learn that the pain means you're still kicking!

Trapper, I'd never ask to inflict that particular pain (moderating) on you. You'd end up hating me........again ;D Thanks for the tips on spinning deer hair. I' found a good deal on a bunch of elk hair in different colors on ebay.

The addiction continues.  :P

RG
Now I see how it is! ::)
We'll inflict that particular pain on the young buzzards!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 21, 2010, 07:15 AM
Maybe you're getting a bit older....you're getting smarter anyway ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 21, 2010, 07:20 AM
I've been mentoring as well as I can RG.
Was thinking I better get down there to fish for a day with him, may be easier to pass on my elder views to him on a stream or pond somewhere. LOL
On second thought, through email is better. He may see through my seemingly expertice as the BS it truly is...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 21, 2010, 11:37 AM
i  don't  want  to  moderate  everyone  ...just  gamma !!!!  lets  face  it  he  is a full  time  job .....lol   come  ice  season  that  old  long  hair  can  have  his  butt  right  out  there  with me  everyday ....figure  i'd  have  him  walk  first to  check  the  ice!!!!  i  won't  even  pick  on  him  him  about  my  jigs  are  better  or  my  ice  flies  work  better ......  but  i will  show  him  the  power  of  the  spike  and  wax  worm !!!!

hey  let  me  know  how  ya  do  with  the  elk  hair  if  we  have  to  we'll  hook  up  the  web  cam
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 21, 2010, 11:42 AM
I'll do that Trap. Should have it in a couple of days. In the mean time I've been working on the woven patterns. The gills and a couple of largemouth approve so far.

Tee time in a little while......I love Wednesdays. ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 21, 2010, 09:20 PM
Hope you hit them straight RG. Taking the fly rod for a little walk tomorrow. See if I can find the fish I haven't been after since I was a boy.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jul 21, 2010, 10:07 PM
I've been mentoring as well as I can RG.
Was thinking I better get down there to fish for a day with him, may be easier to pass on my elder views to him on a stream or pond somewhere. LOL
On second thought, through email is better. He may see through my seemingly expertice as the BS it truly is...
All jokes aside. The knowledge I have gained on here and IS is priceless.
Most of it came from you old f--ts! I gotta show a little respect.
And let's face it. Old or young, we're ALL full of BS! We fish...we BS.
'cept Gamma of course! ;D He don't!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 21, 2010, 10:46 PM
All jokes aside. The knowledge I have gained on here and IS is priceless.
Most of it came from you old f--ts! I gotta show a little respect.
And let's face it. Old or young, we're ALL full of BS! We fish...we BS.
'cept Gamma of course! ;D He don't!

That is the start to a good poem there Slayer!
I have noticed how respectable, and respected you have become on here since
the beginning of your MOD days!

I am one of them men on here that has that respect towards ya!
RG, Trapper, 1Fish, Gamma, HT....and alot of the other regulars here also get Kudo's from me,
simply from the endless supply of knowledge you guys deliver!
Good stuff Guy's...let's keeper her rolling

Trapper 2000..... the next ICE SHANTY MOD?? ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 22, 2010, 02:34 AM
OYE! This is getting mushy again...........How bout those Yankees ;D


RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 22, 2010, 04:11 AM
well  thanks  to  RG  and  hearing  of  his  woven  nymphs  i  had  to  start   checking  the  patterns  out ,i have  tyed  a  few  with  chennile  in  the  old  days  but  after  checking  out  some  of  the  newer patterns  my addiction  grew!

http://vimeo.com/10174276]]http://vimeo.com/10174276 (http://)

rg  post  a few  pictures  of  what  you  have  come  up  with,  i  have  to  run  and  get  some  bead  heads  and dubbing , oh  and  zonker  strip...might  as  well  pick  up some  more  streamer  hooks  ....ect  ect  ect  

                                                                                                                                                                                  never  ending story  but!

                                                                                                                                                                                         life is  good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 22, 2010, 07:51 AM
Now you guys have me looking through materials catalogs on line....Is there a patch for this????
I quit cold turkey a few years ago....Tried to occupy myself with the boat.....Keep saying I love to troll, I love to troll and clicking my heels three times.
To quote a fellow ole'fart OYE!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 22, 2010, 02:13 PM
It's good for you....no need to quit. Just get earplugs to avoid the inevitable "What do you need that for?" from the bride.

I'm headed to the creek in a while to play in the water. Short day today ;D

I'll put up some pics later Trap.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 22, 2010, 02:41 PM
OYE! This is getting mushy again...........How bout those Yankees ;D


RG
ummmm!! Way tooooooo many man hugs going on here on the OLD F--ts Thread!!! Yes, those YANKEES are doing well!!!! ;)--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 22, 2010, 03:06 PM
  trolling  hmmmmmmmmm.....rather   eat  the  crawfish  ....before  there  cooked  ......just  saying :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 22, 2010, 03:10 PM
Those crawfish do have a big set of eyes for such a small creature Trap!!! Look like bugs to me!! ::) ;D--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 22, 2010, 03:12 PM
big  ole   water bug  bottom feeders .......  bass  candy  tho
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 22, 2010, 03:15 PM
Trap, Got a question for you, Can I get some further casting distance with a 9wt. flyrod if I use a heavier weight line??? I went up one size on my 5 wt. and it seemed to help.... Maybe it's me!! DUNNO!!! LOL!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 22, 2010, 03:24 PM
Trap, Got a question for you, Can I get some further casting distance with a 9wt. flyrod if I use a heavier weight line??? I went up one size on my 5 wt. and it seemed to help.... Maybe it's me!! DUNNO!!! LOL!!--KP 8)

it   should  actually  hinder  you  more  then  help!   your  best   bet  id   get  a  rocket  taper...or  weight  forward  also   wax  your   pole  and   guides   regularly  sounds   silly  but  it  helps  ...  i  use  car  wax  it  also  helps   guides  from  freezing  later  on
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 22, 2010, 03:47 PM
A couple of experimental flies Trap. Gonna try them in a while....had a nice siesta ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fishing/wovenflies004.jpg)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 22, 2010, 03:53 PM
RG  they  look  great!!!!!   when  ya  get  back  we  need  a  report!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 22, 2010, 05:37 PM
The bumble bee pattern was outstanding. Bunch of gills and 2 largemouth. The black and white worked for a while and the brown/black took a couple of smallish smallmouth. They didn't seem too interested in the orange...which surprised me.

Quick trip to the testing hole ;D


Time to eat :P

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 22, 2010, 05:55 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/food/tandori.jpg)

Dinner don't look bad either....Tandori Naan flatbread pizza ;D

MMMMmmmmmmmmmmm!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 22, 2010, 06:10 PM
it   should  actually  hinder  you  more  then  help!   your  best   bet  id   get  a  rocket  taper...or  weight  forward  also   wax  your   pole  and   guides   regularly  sounds   silly  but  it  helps  ...  i  use  car  wax  it  also  helps   guides  from  freezing  later  on
Thanks Trap, Gotta change my line!! Gotta check which line I put on that 9wt. of mine!! Tightlines--KP ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 22, 2010, 07:15 PM
RG  one  think  i  said  about  the  foam  bee's  i  believe  it's  the  color!!!   i  always   catch  fish  on  yellow  and  black  ,  keep  track  and  see  if  it  holds  true  with  you  also
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 22, 2010, 07:29 PM
RG  one  think  i  said  about  the  foam  bee's  i  believe  it's  the  color!!!   i  always   catch  fish  on  yellow  and  black  ,  keep  track  and  see  if  it  holds  true  with  you  also

The same one's worked well for me RG and Trap. (foam bee's that Trap made for me). Mark that one in the books as a true, tried and tested success!

RG, sorry, I'll try to rid myself of the mushy crud, just get a little happy at times reading the man love Trap and you have lately! :whistling: Just picking guys. ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 22, 2010, 07:31 PM
Oh, by the way.....Sweet looking pizza there RG.
Made stuffed chops, and sauteed squash and zucchini from HT's garden for dinner tonight! Thanks HT
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 22, 2010, 07:39 PM
  man  love????  i  think  it's  more  like  grumpy  old  men   ...we  just   keep  enabling  each  others  addiction  :rotflol:.....whats  nice  for  me  is   to  get  people   re interested  or  interested  in  flyfishing ...  ya  got  to  pass  the  faith  or  rekindle  it  ..... besides   you  could  put  a  eye  out  with  a  casting  bobber....   hey  it  is  nice  for  me     i'm  copying  RG's  flies  now  i  must  have  tied  4  doz  sculptins   now  i'll  be    tying   the  woven ones  ....  i'm  working  on  a  bass  fly  ...a  salamander  ...i  figure  if  a  rubber  lizard  works   on a  texas  rig  a  weighted  one  worked  slow  should too
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 22, 2010, 08:28 PM
I dig what you are saying Trap! I still got a bunch to learn from ya Ol' guys! Anytime ya get by my area, feel free to stop in and have a quality cup of Joe! On the house. Payment will be alot of teaching the grasshopper! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 22, 2010, 09:05 PM
Still getting my daily chuckles here.
Pizza looked awesome RG!!
Spent the afternoon at the farmers market with the bride. Then worked on the name on the boat. Will post it on the boat thread.
Have a no. 10 bumble bee ready to go on the rod. Found this time of year sometimes bigger is better. Watched a neat show on the fishing network last night. They were catching big brookies in Labrador with mice!! Big beautiful deer hair mice!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 23, 2010, 02:25 PM
geez   fm  i guess  we  can  teach  ya ...lession  one  don't  listen  to  gamma  !!!!  where  is  the  old  long  haired  knucklehead  anyways ????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 23, 2010, 04:31 PM
He says he is in mental therapy from trying to read your posts? ;)

seriously, he is on the other side of my counter hanging out in the A/C laughing at me
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 24, 2010, 10:12 AM
geez   fm  i guess  we  can  teach  ya ...lession  one  don't  listen  to  gamma  !!!!  where  is  the  old  long  haired  knucklehead  anyways ????
Lesson Two: Listen to Trap!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 24, 2010, 09:21 PM
Lesson Two: Listen to Trap!!!!
You keep listening to that old coot and you'll be walking around in circles like one foot is nailed to the floor ! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 24, 2010, 09:25 PM
i  think  thats  you  after   a  sat  night  gamma  :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 24, 2010, 11:22 PM
i  think  thats  you  after   a  sat  night  gamma  :rotflol:
No.actually, it was me  Friday night after Harborfest  :cookoo: :cookoo: :wacko: :wacko: :w00t: :w00t: :whistling: :whistling: ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 25, 2010, 05:09 AM
You guys must all be getting old !   It's 6:08 AM and nobody is up yet ??     2 nights in a row I'm up all night and there's nobodies cookies to bust here !
  Wimps ! ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jul 25, 2010, 05:25 AM
You guys must all be getting old !   It's 6:08 AM and nobody is up yet ??     2 nights in a row I'm up all night and there's nobodies cookies to bust here !
  Wimps ! ;D ;D
They already fishin' homeboy!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 25, 2010, 06:22 AM
Wimps eh?
I was out doing my morning walk at 4am....7miles or so this morning.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 25, 2010, 06:26 AM
ya wimps  ??? i was out in the garden picking vegetables at day light.  :P Hey Gamma where are those 17" crappies  ??? maybe you catch those right out of your toilet. i guess that's why you never leave the house to go fishing.  ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 25, 2010, 06:58 AM
I have to admit I slept in until 6AM....ooops
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 25, 2010, 07:41 AM
just  got  back  from  fishing  i  was   out   chucking  flies  when  the  sun  came  up!  thats  the  differance   gamma    we  don't  just  talk  it  ...we  do  it   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 25, 2010, 10:29 AM
ya wimps  ??? i was out in the garden picking vegetables at day light.  :P Hey Gamma where are those 17" crappies  ??? maybe you catch those right out of your toilet. i guess that's why you never leave the house to go fishing.  ::) ::) ::) ::)
HT, That's why Trap always says that GAMMA is, and I quote... " TALKING POOP"!!!!--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 25, 2010, 10:31 AM
Well I didn't get to chuck any flies this morning. The creek is raging. I tied a few though. Whatcha think?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fishing/caddis005.jpg)

Tee time at 1:24 ;D. Gotta win the trophy back from my partner. He beat me by 1 last week. First time in over a year I had to give it up.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 25, 2010, 10:34 AM
They look great RG!!.... They'll look better stuck in a fishes mouth though!! LOL!! Go have some fun and good luck with the taking of the trophy!!!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 25, 2010, 10:48 AM
nice looking flys RG  :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 25, 2010, 04:47 PM
Look good RG. I've been playing with them a little more. Going to tie a couple that I have in dyed black deer hair.
Muskrat body. I have to get some more ribbon though.
Good luck on the links!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 25, 2010, 05:33 PM
Thanks guys. Can't wait for the creeks to get back to normal so I can give em a try.. It may well be a couple of weeks. My back yard creek is well above spring thaw levels and showing no signs of receding as yet.

I have an assortment of elk hair (different colors) on their way. I'm gonna play with some different patterns as well.

I hit them well this afternoon...took the trophy back ;D My poor, dejected partner really blew up on the back 9. I made some shots that had him muttering to himself :rotflol:

Lets see some of those woven flies Trap......I'm sure you've been busy at the bench.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 25, 2010, 07:52 PM
You keep listening to that old coot and you'll be walking around in circles like one foot is nailed to the floor ! ;D ;D ;D
So what advice do you have to offer. HUH
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 26, 2010, 12:25 AM
So what advice do you have to offer. HUH
You keep listening to that old coot and you'll be walking around in circles like one foot is nailed to the floor ! grin grin grin

Do I have to repeat myself ?? ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 26, 2010, 07:38 AM
You keep listening to that old coot and you'll be walking around in circles like one foot is nailed to the floor ! grin grin grin

Do I have to repeat myself ?? ;D ;D
Besides that, SO...... where are those 17" crappies!!!!!??????? :whistling: :whistling: :blink:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 26, 2010, 07:57 AM
WOW Gamma, even the youngsters are calling you out!!
Looks like you'll have to fire up the boat and take the lad out and school him a bit....
Crappie is one fish you can head out at noon for..... ;D
Sorry just couldn't resist....Maybe grab a box of Krispy Kremes and entice FM to join ya.... :D ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 26, 2010, 12:48 PM
GAMMA is a great guy.... He can take Jr. fishing anytime!! Looks as though 'Ol GAMMA has two KP's to contend with now!! All in fun GAMMA, We know how to have a little fun, Now if I can get HT and GAMMA to like each other!!! :-* Lastly..... GAMMA where are those 17" slabs you been braggin' about??? LOL!!! Have a great day Gentlemen!!!--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 26, 2010, 12:50 PM
WOW Gamma, even the youngsters are calling you out!!
Looks like you'll have to fire up the boat and take the lad out and school him a bit....
Crappie is one fish you can head out at noon for..... ;D
Sorry just couldn't resist....Maybe grab a box of Krispy Kremes and entice FM to join ya.... :D ;)
Jr. won't wait at the dock that long 1fish.... Better not leave the key in your boat GAMMA!!! It'll need fuel when you want to take it out again!!! ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 26, 2010, 01:46 PM
Even though I haven't met Gamma "yet", I can tell he is a great guy. All of you guys have shown me how well you like him by the comments and the ribbing. I've learned one thing in my life. They guy who is getting ribbed a lot is
1.) able to take it well and defend himself very well.
2.) one of a group of guys that enjoy being around each other.(even if appearance's would say otherwise.) ;D
KPjr is learning a valuable life lesson. Keep the good guys on your side and in your sights. They're the first one to get'ya when you least expect it...LOL
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 26, 2010, 02:34 PM
Good words there 1fish!!!! Gamma is a fun guy, even though Trapper and HT have thier differences with GAMMA at times... we all do stick together and watch each other's backs!! I enjoy the comradrie from all the guys on here and Jr. is enjoying the fun times now that all of us have had for some time. Now, I'm not asking for any group hug here, Just saying!!!! FM or Prchslyr will ask for the group hug!!! LOL!! Tightlines to all!!--KP ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 26, 2010, 02:36 PM
Even though I haven't met Gamma "yet", I can tell he is a great guy. All of you guys have shown me how well you like him by the comments and the ribbing. I've learned one thing in my life. They guy who is getting ribbed a lot is
1.) able to take it well and defend himself very well.
2.) one of a group of guys that enjoy being around each other.(even if appearance's would say otherwise.) ;D
KPjr is learning a valuable life lesson. Keep the good guys on your side and in your sights. They're the first one to get'ya when you least expect it...LOL

C. One of us has a box of Krispy Kremes, and everyone else wants to take them from him. :w00t:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 26, 2010, 02:42 PM
LOL FM!! you moose you....Don't go near the bait FM....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 26, 2010, 03:12 PM
C. One of us has a box of Krispy Kremes, and everyone else wants to take them from him. :w00t:
Killer wants the Kremes I think, all the ribbin' he puts on you.... Shows that he wants them all for himself!!! LOL!!! You know that when a friend back in school would always pick on you and you thought he was being mean, well, he was just trying to be your friend!!!!  TAKE HOLD OF THE KREMES FM, DON'T LET GO!!!! ;)--KP 8) Very twisted bunch aren't we??? WHERE'S TRAPPER????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Jul 26, 2010, 05:47 PM
Killer wants the Kremes I think, all the ribbin' he puts on you.... Shows that he wants them all for himself!!! LOL!!! You know that when a friend back in school would always pick on you and you thought he was being mean, well, he was just trying to be your friend!!!!  TAKE HOLD OF THE KREMES FM, DON'T LET GO!!!! ;)--KP 8) Very twisted bunch aren't we??? WHERE'S TRAPPER????
thats why we call him the crispie killer ,he can kill a donut in 2 bites , it's like feeding a bear ,don't get your hands to close to the box  :w00t:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 26, 2010, 06:11 PM
the  only  time  gamma  ever  seen  a  17  inch  calco  was  looking  in my  cooler  :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Jul 26, 2010, 07:45 PM
I thought maybe you had a mirror in the bottom of your cooler and it just looked crappie  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 26, 2010, 07:46 PM
would  if  gamma  looked  in  :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 26, 2010, 07:57 PM
report  for  today  ,   good  day  on  the  river      first   some  top  water   poppers   and  crease   flys   followed   by   decivers  .....  lot  of  punk  size  smallies  but a  few   better  fish  ....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jul 26, 2010, 08:47 PM
I don't man. You guys are even scaring me! :o
That was pretty darn mushy. :'(
That my friends was a digital group hug. Pop it open Gamma, get in there! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 26, 2010, 09:38 PM
AAAAAII go on back up on your mountain Slyr.....Listen for the Duelin banjos....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 26, 2010, 09:44 PM
AAAAAII go on back up on your mountain Slyr.....Listen for the Duelin banjos....

THNX for saying that there 1FISh, SLYR even scared me a bit with that mushy one...
All in all tho boyz......U are all the bombz!
(My daughter taught me how to use modern day hieroglyphics) ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 26, 2010, 09:47 PM
I heard you were all thimbs..... Use those on the blackberry not the keyboard..... ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 26, 2010, 11:04 PM
the  only  time  gamma  ever  seen  a  17  inch  calco  was  looking  in my  cooler  :rotflol:
Only thing at the bottom of your cooler is stink from those rock bass that you call crappies  ;D ;D

 (http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz318/Gamma-Fish/PICS-HOME1047-1.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Jul 27, 2010, 04:42 AM
 :w00t: :flag:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 27, 2010, 06:27 AM
That reminds me I have to clean my cooler from the camping trip two weeks ago....
Dang if you see my face on the poster for CRS let me know. I don't remember posing for it..... :wacko:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 27, 2010, 07:41 AM
Only thing at the bottom of your cooler is stink from those rock bass that you call crappies  ;D ;D

 (http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz318/Gamma-Fish/PICS-HOME1047-1.jpg)



that  crappie   ain't  no  17  inches   :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:....yer  being  called   buddy 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 27, 2010, 08:18 AM
Here we go, got a nice and full cup o joe!!! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 27, 2010, 08:40 AM
it's  true   fm   the  average   mans    hand  spread   from  tip  of  pinky  to  thump  is  about  9  inches  !!!!  that  crappie  isn't   but  12  inches  in that  picture! 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 27, 2010, 08:45 AM
Just measured mine at 8.5" Trap. Good tool for deciding if a crappie is 9" or not.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 27, 2010, 10:11 AM
Won't say what other measurement that pertains to Trap.... ::)
12...17, whats five inches between friends.....(a safe distance))))
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 27, 2010, 10:17 AM
remember its Gamma we are talking about here. NO WAY am i going to let that one go  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  17"  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 27, 2010, 10:35 AM


that  crappie   ain't  no  17  inches   :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:....yer  being  called   buddy 
That one was 15 3/4" and caught right in front of a marina on the river in Brewerton.   Not the 17 inch whites that we get but I'm not a "Mona Lisa" poser like HT  :-\  and don't take pictures of every fish I catch  ::) ::) ::)

  I'm hoping I can be back pain free very soon so I can get out there !    Matter of fact, I'd like to take HT to one of the good spots on the river for the big whites and let him fish the area for a couple hours from a boat while I sit under a shade tree on shore with no rod and drink coffee.
  At the end of the 2 hours, we'll both have the same amount of big crappies !     ZERO !   ;) ;) ;D ;D   And HT can use fatheads all day ! ::) ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 27, 2010, 10:39 AM
remember its Gamma we are talking about here. NO WAY am i going to let that one go  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  17"  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Hey Zippy !    That's my hand holding the fish not you little gripper  ;D ;D 
   5 1/2 inches across the top of my knuckles !   You do the math.......because I know you know your gozintas.............1 gozinta 2........2 gozinta 4........4 gozinta 8    !!   Just like they taught you in high school  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 27, 2010, 10:44 AM
Told ya there was a reason I got my coffee going ! Love it ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 27, 2010, 12:04 PM
Hey Zippy !    That's my hand holding the fish not you little gripper  ;D ;D 
   5 1/2 inches across the top of my knuckles !   You do the math.......because I know you know your gozintas.............1 gozinta 2........2 gozinta 4........4 gozinta 8    !!   Just like they taught you in high school  ;D ;D ;D

yer  talking  poop  gamma  that  fish   ain't  but  12  inches  !!!!   fm   other  easy  measuring  tools   a  dollar  bill  is  6  inches ! 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 27, 2010, 12:22 PM
Only thing at the bottom of your cooler is stink from those rock bass that you call crappies  ;D ;D

 (http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz318/Gamma-Fish/PICS-HOME1047-1.jpg)
Just want everybody to know.... that this picture of crappie in hand is actually my hand and my fish!!!! Always trying to take some credit for your self GAMMA!!!!! Real Nice, Trapper is right... 12" fish!!! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 27, 2010, 01:01 PM
you dont take pictures of every fish you catch  ??? ???  when is the last time you even picked up a fishing pole  ??? i mean outside of the house  :P  ::) ::) ::)  ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 27, 2010, 01:05 PM
Hey Zippy !    That's my hand holding the fish not you little gripper  ;D ;D 
   5 1/2 inches across the top of my knuckles !   You do the math.......because I know you know your gozintas.............1 gozinta 2........2 gozinta 4........4 gozinta 8    !!   Just like they taught you in high school  ;D ;D ;D
they must not have had tape measures back in the OLD days when you went to school. they showed me that new invention called a tape measure in my school days. no wonder you got so many tickets for having short fish in your bucket  ::) :cookoo:  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 27, 2010, 01:15 PM
you dont take pictures of every fish you catch  ??? ???  when is the last time you even picked up a fishing pole  ??? i mean outside of the house  :P  ::) ::) ::)  ::) ::) ::) ::)
The pole that he gave FM last week!! ;D--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 27, 2010, 01:16 PM
Just want everybody to know.... that this picture of crappie in hand is actually my hand and my fish!!!! Always trying to take some credit for your self GAMMA!!!!! Real Nice, Trapper is right... 12" fish!!! ;D

this  old  fart  been  to  a  few  rodeo's    lolllllll     and  nothing  wrong  with  a  12  crappie   by  the  way  ...... was  it  one  ya  got  when  we  fished     at  toad????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 27, 2010, 01:17 PM
 ;)--KP ;D You see the fathead hanging out from it's mouth don't you?????  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 27, 2010, 01:19 PM
you dont take pictures of every fish you catch  ??? ???  when is the last time you even picked up a fishing pole  ??? i mean outside of the house  :P  ::) ::) ::)  ::) ::) ::) ::)
Unlike you, I don't look to be complimented on every fish I catch  ::) ::) ::)    Nothing to prove at all !     Now go tend to your garden Old McDonald !!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 27, 2010, 01:22 PM
this  old  fart  been  to  a  few  rodeo's    lolllllll     and  nothing  wrong  with  a  12  crappie   by  the  way  ...... was  it  one  ya  got  when  we  fished     at  toad????
I think we need to get together with 'ol GAMMA and slam some craps!!!! One fish I would love to figure out more in depth. I think with you two 'ol farts, I should accomplish that task!!!--KP ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 27, 2010, 01:25 PM
Unlike you, I don't look to be complimented on every fish I catch  ::) ::) ::)    Nothing to prove at all !     Now go tend to your garden Old McDonald !!



and  we  find  out  it  ain't  even  yer  fish  :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: ....hey  gamma  you  do  relize  ya  don't  measure  both  sides  of  the  fish  ....right   :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 27, 2010, 01:27 PM


and  we  find  out  it  ain't  even  yer  fish  :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: ....hey  gamma  you  do  relize  ya  don't  measure  both  sides  of  the  fish  ....right   :rotflol:
:w00t: :rotflol: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :rotflol: :rotflol: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 27, 2010, 01:29 PM
Unlike you, I don't look to be complimented on every fish I catch  ::) ::) ::)    Nothing to prove at all !     Now go tend to your garden Old McDonald !!
i dont care about compliments i just want fresh fish on my plate and a lot of them. i have nothing to prove to anyone. what can i say that i catch a lot of fish unlike some people  ::) i don't have fish in my toilet  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 27, 2010, 01:33 PM
Trapper, HT and GAMMA are argueing again!!!! ;D  It's not Wednesday today, Where is RG???? Must have taken a very long walk today!! ;)--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 27, 2010, 01:33 PM
I think we need to get together with 'ol GAMMA and slam some craps!!!! One fish I would love to figure out more in depth. I think with you two 'ol farts, I should accomplish that task!!!--KP ;)
Why don't you and FM take my boat for a spin up the river ?    I'll show you where to go and what to use and how to use it.     I have more important fish to fry right now ! ;) ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 27, 2010, 01:36 PM
Why don't you and FM take my boat for a spin up the river ?    I'll show you where to go and what to use and how to use it.     I have more important fish to fry right now ! ;) ;)
You don't have to tell us twice!! FM, you ready????? OH, Is that fishfry, HT??? LOL!! :P--KP  Thanks GAMMA!! ;)  I'd like to take HT along if you don't mind!!! :D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 27, 2010, 01:41 PM
You don't have to tell us twice!! FM, you ready????? OH, Is that fishfry, HT??? LOL!! :P--KP  Thanks GAMMA!! ;)  I'd like to take HT along if you don't mind!!! :D
Absolutely not !    I don't want to ruin my fry oil with impurities ! ;D ;D

And I do mind !   There's already enough little pests crawling around my boat...........................although, having one that I could swat with an oar would be kind of sporting ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 27, 2010, 01:43 PM
You dont want me to go in that boat KP. That boat aint used to have fish brouht in it. It might sink  ??? ??? ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 27, 2010, 01:45 PM
You dont want me to go in that boat KP. That boat aint used to have fish brouht in it. It might sink  ??? ??? ;D ;D
Sonny.....that boat has seen more fish come over the gunnels in one month than you've caught in your life !    No fatheads either ! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 27, 2010, 01:48 PM
Absolutely not !    I don't want to ruin my fry oil with impurities ! ;D ;D

And I do mind !   There's already enough little pests crawling around my boat...........................although, having one that I could swat with an oar would be kind of sporting ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Well, FM and I will shake the spiders and critters out of it!! Maybe give it a dusting!! Make sure it's full of fuel, ice in the cooler, and leave the MAGIC BAG full in the bait box!!!! :whistling: LOL!!--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 27, 2010, 01:49 PM
Trap, I'm sorry for the hi-jacking of your thread Bro!!! GAMMA and HT made me do it!! ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 27, 2010, 01:53 PM
Sonny.....that boat has seen more fish come over the gunnels in one month than you've caught in your life !    No fatheads either ! ;D ;D ;D
when was that 20 years ago. come on gamma pick a day and lets go. lets see these fish that you say are so easy to catch that even i can catch them  ::) ::) ::)   :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: all of this talk is getting old  ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 27, 2010, 01:59 PM
want  to  get  some  crappies????   not  a  hard  thing  yes    many  will  be  in  deep  water  structor   but    you  work  a  shore  line  close  to a  drop off  early  morning  you'll  take  fish! ...  theres  many  areas   right  now  you  can  pound   crappies   in  4 to  6  foot  of  water    in  the  morning  and  evening  !  not  saying  gamma  don't  know  what  he's  taking  about  ...  well   wait  ya  i  am  :rotflol: he's  watched  to  many  al  linder  shows  and  fished  to little  ....   i been  doing  them  with   small  streamers  and  nymphs   but   you  can  do  just  as  well if  not  better  with  tube  jigs or a  fat  head  ....  river  systems  are  easier  to  figure  then  lakes  ....  it's  also  a  great  time  to  be  looking  for   big  gills!!!!  i  been  having  a great  season  and   i'm  honestly  thinking  of  getting a  lony  toon  like  RG's    i'll  post  a  few  of  the  flies  that  have   been  taking  the  calco's  for  you  guys   later  today.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 27, 2010, 02:18 PM
OK coffee is brewed for the afternoon session.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 27, 2010, 02:58 PM
POPCORN READY!!!! ;D--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 27, 2010, 05:28 PM
Dang it I ran out of coffee!!! FM!!!! Help!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bogmanjr on Jul 27, 2010, 05:40 PM
This crew it too much.  :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 27, 2010, 06:10 PM
I may know where you can get another like mine Trap.

I'm working on the Crease Flies. Need to set up a drying motor. Maybe tomorrow. What size do you typically tie? Any real preference for tail materials?

I looked at a very nice cartridge type air brush today. A bit on the pricey side for a frugal (Really Cheap) Old Fart like me. But a nice rig just the same.

I think we need to start a "Bust Gamma's Chops" thread  so we can get back to chucking flies.  :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 27, 2010, 06:16 PM
Trap keeps trying to get us back on track RG....I hate to admit I haven't  tried since the rib ordeal.
Feeling a lot better so may have to get back out there. Mowed the lawn yesterday and payed dearly...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 27, 2010, 06:27 PM
I told you....it's gonna take time :cursing:

The more you do to aggravate it, the longer it will take to repair. Go tie some flies.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 27, 2010, 06:35 PM
OK....but the sun is going down, the skeeters have been thick as pea soup. There has to be a fish feeding heavily on them with my name on it.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 27, 2010, 07:05 PM
Oh...Ok then...go chuck some flies ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 27, 2010, 08:10 PM
You could hardly see they were so dang thick, yet not a rise or ripple on the water. Either they are feeding subsurface(which most of my skeeters are after a couple casts) or there is something else they are foraging on.
Wondering if it's crayfish. Frustrating when your sure they are feeding on something and take only a couple of those and no rises. Should have brought at least a bumble with me....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 27, 2010, 08:21 PM
  RG  old  recorded  player  can  be  adapted!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 27, 2010, 09:57 PM
when was that 20 years ago. come on gamma pick a day and lets go. lets see these fish that you say are so easy to catch that even i can catch them  ::) ::) ::)   :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: all of this talk is getting old  ;D ;D
I never said it was easy to catch them !   I just said you couldn't catch them in the summer months  ;D ;D ;D   But don't worry Zippy....................opportunity will be knocking again next April ! :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 27, 2010, 10:01 PM
I may know where you can get another like mine Trap.

I'm working on the Crease Flies. Need to set up a drying motor. Maybe tomorrow. What size do you typically tie? Any real preference for tail materials?

I looked at a very nice cartridge type air brush today. A bit on the pricey side for a frugal (Really Cheap) Old Fart like me. But a nice rig just the same.

I think we need to start a "Bust Gamma's Chops" thread  so we can get back to chucking flies.  :-\

RG
If you or anyone else here needs a decent quality but very cheap hobby airbrush, I can deliver !! ;) ;)
  They're perfect for painting flies, crank baits or anything else you'd like to change the color of ;) ;)
  Complete set up !  Just add a compressor or portable air tank ! ;).......or just plug it into Trappers .....uh........nevermind .. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 27, 2010, 11:00 PM
You dont want me to go in that boat KP. That boat aint used to have fish brouht in it. It might sink  ??? ??? ;D ;D

Not with you and I in that boat HT...... I think we could tear her up! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 27, 2010, 11:12 PM

I think we need to start a "Bust Gamma's Chops" thread  so we can get back to chucking flies.  :-\

RG

I knew that comment was coming RG.
I've noticed when you don't make a post on this thread for some time, usually it is because we start acting like fools.
I figure....shoot, I know that  you are well rounded, intelligent and fun loving guy!
It's fun when you and Slayer kick in also on the busting! No hard feelings from anyone....I hope?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 28, 2010, 02:32 AM

I figure....shoot, I know that  you are well rounded, intelligent and fun loving guy!



I've been called a lot of things, but never those 3. You have a way with words....you don't know me very well, but, you have a way with words ;D

Thanks for the offer on the airbrush, I have on on the way already.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 28, 2010, 06:55 AM
Gees RG, it's tough to go spend 20.00 on tying materials when Orvis is selling a package of 20 flies for 9.99 on the bottom of the page.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 28, 2010, 08:07 AM
Not with you and I in that boat HT...... I think we could tear her up! ;)
Don't forget me !!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 28, 2010, 08:11 AM
Kinda depends on how much you already spent on the materials you already have...I guess.

Boy that's lousy logic :-\ Even sounds bad to me.

I'm not sure I've ever bought a fly.

Trap, I have several low rpm motors. A couple I salvaged from 2 of those lit up reindeer Christmas lawn ornaments that my wife bought. The lights lasted about 9 days. The motors were a good find though.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 28, 2010, 12:24 PM
i  have  to  make  a  new  one  myself   rg  for  drying  epoxy  ...  the  quest  for  tools  and  materials  is  as  much  fun  as  the  fishing!  anyways  today  i'm  spending  some  time  filling  fly  boxes   and  taking  a  few  pictures  for  here  .....  i  have  actually  bought  a  fly  here  and  there  just  to  copy  the  pattern ....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 28, 2010, 01:02 PM
this  is   a  simple  glass  fly  orginally  a  salt  water  fly  i  tie  it  smaller  and  find  it's a  crappie  killer

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Picture034.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 28, 2010, 01:46 PM
Nice Trap. Love the eyes, I have always looked to baits with big over sized eyes. Seems like a predator fish keys on them. Watched a video of pike on the computer. They put several baits in front of it, didn't really pay much attention. They dropped a shiner down, the poor thing saw the pike, you could actually see it's eyes widen and started swimming frantically to get away. He nailed it....I often think of that when we put sucker belly on for jigging. If it wouldn't be better to use a sucker head....I guess there is only one way to find out.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 28, 2010, 02:11 PM
i  like   eyes  on  bait  fish  patterens  for  sure
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 28, 2010, 03:22 PM
i  have  to  make  a  new  one  myself   rg  for  drying  epoxy  ...  the  quest  for  tools  and  materials  is  as  much  fun  as  the  fishing!  anyways  today  i'm  spending  some  time  filling  fly  boxes   and  taking  a  few  pictures  for  here  .....  i  have  actually  bought  a  fly  here  and  there  just  to  copy  the  pattern ....
I have a couple of extra motors. I'll send you one. Pm your address again.

Love the glass fly :thumbup_smilie:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 29, 2010, 08:11 AM
rg    you  should  tie  a  few  up!!!  great  fly  i  pm'ed   how  or   you  can  google  it  but   anyone  using  epoxy   should  wear  rubber  gloves  and  follow   the  warnings!  there  are   alternatives  out  there  now  but  i  confess  i  never  used  them ...   also  i  would  love  MICKY  FINN    to  get  involved  in  this  thread , i have   chatted  a  few  times  with  him  on here  he's  a  very  nice  guy (  even  for  a  sox  fan)   and  a  very  knowledgeable  flyfisherman .... 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 29, 2010, 11:15 AM
I've been called a lot of things, but never those 3. You have a way with words....you don't know me very well, but, you have a way with words ;D

Thanks for the offer on the airbrush, I have on on the way already.
But I bet it cost a lot more than $10.00 !   ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 29, 2010, 12:45 PM
GAMMA   STOP  USING  OUR  THREAD  AS A  FLEA  MARKET!!!!! :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 29, 2010, 01:23 PM
GAMMA   STOP  USING  OUR  THREAD  AS A  FLEA  MARKET!!!!! :rotflol: :rotflol:
I know RG is a little frugal with the bucks so I thought I bust his jewels a bit !     
    BTW.........I take trades  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 29, 2010, 01:39 PM
  ok  we'll  give  ya  a  12  inch  crappie  so  ya  can   take  a  picture  with  it 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 29, 2010, 05:09 PM
But I bet it cost a lot more than $10.00 !   ;)
Nope!

Just a good trade. I like that much better.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 29, 2010, 05:15 PM
I am not a "little frugal"...I am downright abstemious!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 29, 2010, 08:00 PM
I am not a "little frugal"...I am downright abstemious!

RG

RG..you kill me with your arsenal of fancy wording! Not quite sure if the latter was used in proper form though. (Adverb form? A persons restraint from food or alcohol?) Either way, thanks for adding your personable twist! ;)
A pic of some of Mr. KP's work that he made up for my slow growing, but well appreciated fly tackle. Thanks KP
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/fishingstuff004.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 29, 2010, 08:05 PM
next  week  you  get  flytying  101   fm!!!!  you  figure  a  evening  yer  free
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bogmanjr on Jul 29, 2010, 09:48 PM
I am not a "little frugal"...I am downright abstemious!

RG

In Maine that mean's you can cast with either hand right? Or a critter that can live in water or on land? Something like that.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 29, 2010, 11:32 PM
In Maine that mean's you can cast with either hand right? Or a critter that can live in water or on land? Something like that.

I think ya mean Ambidextrious (the state of being equally adept in the use of both left and right appendages (such as the hands). I hope that is an honest question, and I helped ya out.  ;) Not looking for any butt busting on this one here.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 30, 2010, 09:10 AM
OH your in for it FM......He was funnin, Ole Bogman may be a farmer, and a jack of all trades but he's pretty educated...And loves to bust'em....
Oh and flip your pork chop around will ya... ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bogmanjr on Jul 30, 2010, 02:55 PM
LOL- Abstemious,Ambidextrous,Amphibious Don't much matter to me. Seems like a lot of big fancy word's for a bunch of old fly chuckers. Let's get to fishing.  

Oh BTW I have never tied a fly but I am amazed how you guy's can take a hook, some thread, Hair,feathers and all the rest of it and duplicate the things you do. It's truly an art.

Did someone say Porkchop's? I have some real tricks to cook the other whitemeat. Firehouse style! BAM
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jul 30, 2010, 04:32 PM
Yep. Time for another cooking thread.
We owe it to Rg for screwing up his last cooking thread.
We wanna see how you Mainer's throw it down in the kitchen too!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 30, 2010, 05:03 PM
Bogman, a thesaurus is a dangerous thing ;D

I should have put up a post for last night's din....Walleye, shrimp, mussels Fra Diavolo, on Fettuccine with a small Caesar salad.

I have to use up the other walleye fillet tonight. I think I'm gonna bake it with salsa ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 30, 2010, 05:22 PM
Bogman, a thesaurus is a dangerous thing ;D

I should have put up a post for last night's din....Walleye, shrimp, mussels Fra Diavolo, on Fettuccine with a small Caesar salad.

I have to use up the other walleye fillet tonight. I think I'm gonna bake it with salsa ;D

RG

Walleye with salsa, that sounds good!!!!!!!YUM ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bogmanjr on Jul 30, 2010, 05:29 PM
Bogman, a thesaurus is a dangerous thing ;D

I should have put up a post for last night's din....Walleye, shrimp, mussels Fra Diavolo, on Fettuccine with a small Caesar salad.

I have to use up the other walleye fillet tonight. I think I'm gonna bake it with salsa ;D

RG


Well i guess you don't need porkchop's do you. My mouth is watering just reading that.   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 30, 2010, 08:09 PM
it's  true  old  arts   love  to  eat  good  food ....big  thanks  to   HT  .......

                                                                         life  is  good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 30, 2010, 08:49 PM
Awww ya let FM off way to easy Bogman....
Rg that diner sounds scrumptious... I marinated some London Broil in Worcestershire sauce, onion soup mix, garlic, sea salt and pepper. Then roasted it in the foil with the marinate, finished on the grill. Wasn't to bad..
Not nearly as exotic as yours though.
Everything is good with Salsa!!
FM, you sure do keep things interesting. Wouldn't be the same here without you.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 31, 2010, 02:20 AM
A friend of mine used to make that dish with flank steaks. Goooooood!

I finally got my order of materials. I now have a good stock of elk hair and more dubbing, hooks etc. Time to test some of those caddis I've been working on. Gotta get my walk in first.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 31, 2010, 03:29 AM
ok i'm up coffee  is done ..... tossing some flies  in  a box.... oneida lake smallies ....beware
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 31, 2010, 05:32 AM
I had my walk, stretched out for a half hour or so, just finished breakfast.........I'm gone fly chuckin'.  Good luck Trap.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bogmanjr on Jul 31, 2010, 06:40 AM
Awww ya let FM off way to easy Bogman....
FM, you sure do keep things interesting. Wouldn't be the same here without you.

Well I am kinda new at hanging with the NY crowd so I didn't want to wear out my welcome. :w00t:  I was thinking if he was going to correct my attempts at humor with proper definitions he could at least spell the word correctly.  Whoops there I go wearing out my welcome. :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 31, 2010, 12:05 PM
Well I am kinda new at hanging with the NY crowd so I didn't want to wear out my welcome. :w00t:  I was thinking if he was going to correct my attempts at humor with proper definitions he could at least spell the word correctly.  Whoops there I go wearing out my welcome. :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:

Heck no, only one or two busts at a time. Can't believe I made through that one without even Rg not tearing into me. Thought I had some serious ribbing coming. You guys are getting soft! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 31, 2010, 12:57 PM
I just couldn't think of a nice way to attack that. I was wore out last night and full of P&V this morning.

Fishing stunk. They just weren't interested. Back to the bench!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 31, 2010, 07:58 PM
wasn't  my  best  day  but  far  from  my  worse  a  few  bass    but the  weather  was  great
keep  casting 
                                                                                                           life  is  good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 31, 2010, 09:08 PM
I was at a fire company function all day. Parade,(spent most of yesterday polishing the truck). We took our 20 year old Pierce engine. It is getting replaced this fall so it was her last hurrah. Was fun but a long day.
This evening I hooked the boat up for first light in the morning. First time out since rebuilding the carb....Fingers crossed, eyes too.... Hope you all find hungry fish in the morning...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 01, 2010, 10:42 AM
early  morning  found  me  on the  lakeshore  with  flyrod  and  d&d  coffee  in  hand  ...  i waded  this  morning    and  just  work a  small  section  of  the  lake  ...all  it took  2  bass  one  decent  ...early morning  poppers  .....  couldn't stay long  got a  birthday party  but  it  was  fun  ....

                                                                                                          life  is  good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 01, 2010, 01:17 PM
Good deal Trap...Did I ever tell you ....Trolling sucks....LOL
Tyler and I spent 6 hours looking at lakers just stacked on the bottom in 70' of water. Tried every thing I know and not a hit....Lead line bouncing the bottom, Jigging, Everything short of dynamite....I need easier fish... :o
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bogmanjr on Aug 01, 2010, 01:37 PM
Good deal Trap...Did I ever tell you ....Trolling sucks....LOL
Tyler and I spent 6 hours looking at lakers just stacked on the bottom in 70' of water. Tried every thing I know and not a hit....Lead line bouncing the bottom, Jigging, Everything short of dynamite....I need easier fish... :o


Sounds like the boat ran ok? You did better than I did , Stuck at work on this perfect summer day. Only 18 hrs until departure though. :clapping:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 01, 2010, 01:43 PM
The boat ran like a champ!!! Was so relieved. The lake we went to is a 20 mile round trip to the deep water. Way to dang far to paddle.... ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 02, 2010, 04:44 PM
Darn that Trapper........ >:(

Got me thinking about ..........
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/helgrammite002.jpg)

Helgramites. Thought I'd attempt a few.


Top left 2 are the first attempts...right 2 are the next....bottom left is the next. I was completely engrossed at the bench for 3 hours........I love it ;D

This addiction is way worse than ice jigs. New vise is on the way and the materials are stacking up all over the place. I'm thoroughly obsessed :P

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 02, 2010, 04:55 PM
Good looking work there RG! Let us know how ya do with them if ya would. :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Aug 02, 2010, 07:27 PM
Darn that Trapper........ >:(

Got me thinking about ..........
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/helgrammite002.jpg)

Helgramites. Thought I'd attempt a few.


Top left 2 are the first attempts...right 2 are the next....bottom left is the next. I was completely engrossed at the bench for 3 hours........I love it ;D

This addiction is way worse than ice jigs. New vise is on the way and the materials are stacking up all over the place. I'm thoroughly obsessed :P

RG
well you can thank your buddy Trapper for that to a point  ;D ;D ;D ;D   very nice looking flys RG  :D 8) ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 02, 2010, 08:16 PM
Those are really nice RG. Wow!! Now I'm going to have to try...That last one with the bead head is nice. Looks very realistic. What is the leg material? Looks like black duck?
Those would hammer the browns here, as well as the smallies. Couple guys were talking to me the other night about the Hudson. They are real discouraged with the amount of creek chubs, Not sure if they are chubs or something else. They hit non stop, hard to get your fly to any other fish.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 02, 2010, 08:24 PM


 New vise is on the way
RG

RG....I'm not out of line by asking you what your intentions are with your old vise.....am I? Gotta start somewhere, don't we? ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 03, 2010, 02:47 AM
very nice  RG  !!!!!  last night  i  went  to a  spot  on  the  oswego river ....just  relaxing  i hit  several  bass   quick  using  clouser  ....small keepers    one  small  sheephead  ....the addiction  doesn't  go away  either  !!!!...
fm  i'll be  swinging in  sometime soon ....we  can  give  you  a  quick lession  to get ya  started  ..... 

                                                                                                                                         life  is  good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Aug 03, 2010, 09:47 AM
Darn that Trapper........ >:(

Got me thinking about ..........
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/helgrammite002.jpg)

Helgramites. Thought I'd attempt a few.


Top left 2 are the first attempts...right 2 are the next....bottom left is the next. I was completely engrossed at the bench for 3 hours........I love it ;D

This addiction is way worse than ice jigs. New vise is on the way and the materials are stacking up all over the place. I'm thoroughly obsessed :P

RG
Nice Flies RG!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 03, 2010, 03:52 PM
Darn that Trapper........ >:(

Got me thinking about ..........
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/helgrammite002.jpg)

Helgramites. Thought I'd attempt a few.


Top left 2 are the first attempts...right 2 are the next....bottom left is the next. I was completely engrossed at the bench for 3 hours........I love it ;D

This addiction is way worse than ice jigs. New vise is on the way and the materials are stacking up all over the place. I'm thoroughly obsessed :P

RG
Great flies RG!!! I didn't for get Ya pal!!! You should recieve this week at some point!!!! Tightlines!!--KP ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 03, 2010, 05:11 PM
Thanks guys.
 I think it's the progression that intrigues me. Trying to tie a new fly from your own perspective is a lot of fun.

FM,
The old vise is beat. It's got 30+ years on it. It doesn't hold a hook worth beans any more.  I was thinking I'd give it to my machinist friend to turn down the jaws to make it into a midge vise.  If it doesn't work...no great loss. You don't need to spend a fortune on a vise. $30 - $100 will get you a wide variety of very serviceable vises.

The Danvise I have coming is less than $85 and is very well reviewed. I was after a rotary and couldn't see the dollar value in the big tag vises. More prestige than anything.

RG 

 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 03, 2010, 05:18 PM
Thanks for the honest input Rg, Well appreciated. Good luck with the new gear....can't wait to see some of the new pieces. :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 03, 2010, 06:08 PM
I picked up a new rotary from Cabelas about four years ago for around 35.00. The chrome is crap but it works well. I liked the mount vice. It opens to a full 2". Makes it a little easier to find a suitable mount table for it.
I have my dads old one but like RG's the jaws don't hold very well anymore. But I keep it for sentimental reasons, guy thing I guess. Still have all his old brass trap tags...LOL
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 03, 2010, 06:11 PM
1 fish...sorry I forgot to answer your question.
#6 streamer hook
The legs are natural goose biots.
The back is turkey
Awesome Possum gray dubbing body
Fox squirrel under fur thorax
6/0 Danville flat waxed, rust brown

I'm gonna whup up a few more tomorrow.

RG

 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 03, 2010, 06:26 PM
Thanks RG. I may have to substitute duck for the legs, or some black fake fur I have.
I did mess with dubbing today, I have a lot of muskrat dyed in different colors. Came with a package I found in a garage sale. The first couple heads you made are neat looking. I wrapped a good portion of black deer hair and trimmed to look wide. But the legs were bugging the crap out of me so I walked away. I was also thinking, they are a lot like silverfish. Those are everywhere here now. Wonder if fish eat them.. ??? Then I was thinking flying ants, add some wings.... Good choice of fly, some really good possibilities.
Let us know if they work tomorrow...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 03, 2010, 06:41 PM
I'm going to try a photo sequence of tying this fly in the morning. I've been thinking about it all day :P

Kept me occupied while working anyway :-\

(http://www.fly-fishing-discounters.com/images/hellgrammite-1.jpg)

This is the critter I'm trying to imitate. Notice how the legs come from the middle of the segments? I didn't do that.....but I will ;D The mouth parts are smaller too...gotta work on that.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Aug 03, 2010, 06:58 PM
when you get that dobson  tied, i would like to see it ,they are awsome bait
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 03, 2010, 07:13 PM
With Gamma's expertice with plastics and paint he should be able to "TIE" a beautiful one.... ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 04, 2010, 01:54 AM
You guys got me studying bugs!
My wife thinks I'm a nut these days.  (Had a bunch of Traps, and KP's fly's on my desk)I told her that I love her before she went to bed.
Guarantee she still thinks I'm different.

A little Dobson pic that was easily found! Keep up the good work friends. You guys are few and far between ;)

http://www.uky.edu/Ag/CritterFiles/casefile/insects/dobsonflies/dobsonflies.htm#larvae (http://www.uky.edu/Ag/CritterFiles/casefile/insects/dobsonflies/dobsonflies.htm#larvae)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 04, 2010, 09:33 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/helgramitefish004.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/helgramitefish003.jpg)

They seemed to like it ;D. They were hanging out at mid pool this morning. Very lazy feed. I threw quite a few flies at them and the helgramite did the trick. Very cool.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 04, 2010, 11:05 AM
Nice RG. That's why I love this site so much. I can be having a tough time staying positive and keeping faith in the world, and something so simple as a picture of you catching a fish on an experimental fly can give me the biggest boost...Guess I'm not really to far gone...
Might have to relocate the vice in here in the air conditioning today to putter. You have me excited to try a few of those this evening in the river.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 04, 2010, 11:12 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/helgrammite002-1.jpg)
This is the one that worked the best today. You may want to add a little lead to a couple if you want to get deep in a pool. Unweighted they drift very nicely.

Glad I helped you get your mind right ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 04, 2010, 11:17 AM
You guys got me studying bugs!
My wife thinks I'm a nut these days.  (Had a bunch of Traps, and KP's fly's on my desk)I told her that I love her before she went to bed.
Guarantee she still thinks I'm different.

A little Dobson pic that was easily found! Keep up the good work friends. You guys are few and far between ;)

http://www.uky.edu/Ag/CritterFiles/casefile/insects/dobsonflies/dobsonflies.htm#larvae (http://www.uky.edu/Ag/CritterFiles/casefile/insects/dobsonflies/dobsonflies.htm#larvae)

It truly was incredible to see the hellgrammites along route 28 next to the Hudson as a kid. Millions would be coming out, seemed like a tragedy to see thousands crushed by cars in the road. But they survived with sheer numbers. The rocks in the river were literally white with eggs from Dobson and Stone flies. Not so anymore. Don't see many at all, either fly. Sometimes eveloution isn't all that wonderful for the environment.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 04, 2010, 12:06 PM
hellgrammites are  bass  candy  ...  not to mention  trout  love  them ... RG  nice  looking  flies    buddy 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 04, 2010, 05:57 PM
They're testy little buggers to tie Trap. What do you use for legs? Got a pic of one of yours?

Thanks,
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 04, 2010, 09:22 PM
You got that right RG!! I kept getting frustrated with the legs. Going to try The longer deer hair I have. Run it across and zig zag it in place. Was a thought today. But had horseshoes tonight so will try again tomorrow.
Really can't wait to finish one and try it.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 04, 2010, 09:54 PM
i'll  post  a   few  in the  morning
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 05, 2010, 01:58 AM
You got that right RG!! I kept getting frustrated with the legs. Going to try The longer deer hair I have. Run it across and zig zag it in place. Was a thought today. But had horseshoes tonight so will try again tomorrow.
Really can't wait to finish one and try it.

Well...A horseshoe shooter, and a fly tier? Very impressive 1Fish! ;) Not too many people can pull off the combination of rugged shoe tossing, then transition into fly tying! Good stuff ! Shot shoes myself for some time! Had my share of doubles. ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 05, 2010, 04:54 PM
Got my new vise today. I'm very pleased. Tried hooks from 4/0 to #24 and it held them all rock solid. It is smooth and adjusts very easily. What a buy at $75.

I'm too whupped to tie anything tonight. Bet I'll be thinking though ::)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 05, 2010, 06:47 PM
Picked the brain of a local tying legend. He showed me to use a large black goose like making hackle. Run it down the body, then trim. He mentioned we get so consumed with making it look exact to the origanal, we forget they are fish! He also mentioned the biggest thing he learned with them is the tail. He left it off his first few attempts. Not a lot of success with it. So he added a long black feather for a tail and had the fish go nuts for it. I finished one today. Will go give it a try, as the sun goes down. Picture if it works!! LOL
Yes FM I bowled for years, and went every year to the fair with my Dad as he and his friend threw horseshoes.
I joined a group that throws every Wednesday night. Keeps Dad's memory a little closer to my heart.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 06, 2010, 02:27 AM
No doubt that fish , especially bass, will eat just about anything. I think that when I'm messing around with an imitation, I have as much fun getting it close to natural as I do fishing it. Each has it's own time.

Let us know how you make out.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 06, 2010, 07:25 AM
I think it was a little to dark. Had a couple small fish try to get it and miss. Should have gone this morning early.
But sending more resumes won out.... Maybe it will prove to be more productive....Who knows.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 06, 2010, 11:38 AM
sorry  i  havn't tied  or  gotten  the  camera  out ...  HT  is  to blame   be  droped  off  so  many  veggies  i  been packing  and freezing all  day ...big  thank  you  HT!!!!! 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Aug 06, 2010, 11:45 AM
you haven't got that done yet  ??? ??? I just checked my back garden last night and my other 2 - 30' rows of beans have to be picked  :-\ make some more room in your freezer Trapper. mine is already full   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 06, 2010, 01:02 PM
Geez....I'd take a ride and help you out, but I stopped to see the veggie girl last night on the way home from work ;D

Gotta help the poor kid with her college fund, ya know?

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Aug 06, 2010, 01:46 PM
Geez....I'd take a ride and help you out, but I stopped to see the veggie girl last night on the way home from work ;D

Gotta help the poor kid with her college fund, ya know?

RG
How much did she charge you  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 06, 2010, 01:52 PM
Hey RG, I've got two kids that have to go to college..... Wanna HELP me out pal???? LOL!! ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 06, 2010, 04:04 PM
I think we  should change this thread's name to "Dirty Old Farts With Fly Rods" ::)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 06, 2010, 04:06 PM
You dirty 'ol Fart RG!!!!! Wait, GAMMA did it, your innocent!!!!! GAMMA always starting trouble!!! Trapper, You better handle your boy GAMMA!!!!! I think he's talking POOP again!!--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Aug 06, 2010, 09:07 PM
Who's talkin' poop?  ??? Gamma No Fish?  ???
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 07, 2010, 11:23 AM
Thought ya might like to see the new vise.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/newvise004.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/newvise003.jpg)

So far I really like it. I can bend a #2 hook in a circle and it doesn't budge in the jaws. The rotary function is extremely smooth and the adjustments are all simple/stupid. Even I can understand how they work.

It gets my seal of approval as a real bargain on a great tool ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 07, 2010, 01:25 PM
rg i  love  it! nice  vice  and  if  it  funtions  that well  it  was a  great  bargin!  i like  the  tandom  streamers  too ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 07, 2010, 04:25 PM
Those are old Trap. I don't think I've made any in 20 years. I was cleaning out one of my Perrine boxes to make room for some new stuff and found them. Used to troll them on Seneca and Cayuga behind Suttons. Killers for those Atlantics ;D

I was making up some Micky Finns and Dace streamers to get the feel for the vise. I haven't really learned how to make serious use of the rotary function yet. I'm gonna practice on a bunch of woolly buggers. I need to replenish my assortment for the fall anyway and they seem a perfect pattern to learn how to use it. I'm not real sure about the bobbin rest attachment. Seems like it's always in the way...but the old wheels are already spinning towards a solution ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 07, 2010, 04:29 PM
Nice vise!! Looks all aerospace technology compared to mine.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 07, 2010, 04:43 PM
Only took 6 months to convince me to buy it ::)
The main body parts are Delrin. Post is aluminum, 2 good sized ball bearings, jaws are hardened steel with a 10:1 clamp force ratio. Most vises are in the area of 4:1.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 07, 2010, 06:57 PM
Hey Trapper, I saw some inchworms floating down the stream today :o

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/parachuteinchworm002.jpg)

How bout a Parachute inchworm?

Darn that Trapper...now he's got me playing with foam :P
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Aug 08, 2010, 11:20 AM
Thought ya might like to see the new vise.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/newvise004.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/newvise003.jpg)

So far I really like it. I can bend a #2 hook in a circle and it doesn't budge in the jaws. The rotary function is extremely smooth and the adjustments are all simple/stupid. Even I can understand how they work.

It gets my seal of approval as a real bargain on a great tool ;D

RG
Nice Vise RG!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 08, 2010, 04:37 PM
i like  that  RG   plus  that  will  imatate  a  dragonfly  also!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Aug 08, 2010, 05:17 PM
What's up Trap!!!!???? ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 08, 2010, 05:18 PM
The bluegills kept trying to eat it and one largemouth did eat it ;D.

I'm  thinking of downsizing a few for gills. The old reliable white spider out produced everything today.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 09, 2010, 06:09 PM
interesting  night  i  fished  oswego  not much action  water  was  flowing slow  but there  was  caddis  on the  surface  ...2  10 inch  smallies and a  rock bass  ......
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: eyedoktr on Aug 09, 2010, 06:27 PM
I decided to dust off the old Diamondback and throw a few flies today. I went to a local pond and fooled around for an hour or so. As I haven't used the fly rod in a few years, it took a while to get the rhythm down but managed to have some fun with some small gills, sunnies and crappies.

Yes, I am an old f--t.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 09, 2010, 06:55 PM
Glad to see you stepping outside og the "comfortable zone"......that being your boat ;D

So.......what's the "Anti Bass Fly"???????

And........Yes.. you are an old fart ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 09, 2010, 07:05 PM
Anti Bass??.....Not sure there is such a thing. Seems a bass will eat what ever doesn't eat it first....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 09, 2010, 07:44 PM
If there is such a fly...Pete has it.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: eyedoktr on Aug 09, 2010, 08:02 PM
Glad to see you stepping outside og the "comfortable zone"......that being your boat ;D

So.......what's the "Anti Bass Fly"???????

And........Yes.. you are an old fart ;D

RG

Where I was I have NEVER seen a bass caught. That's one reason I went there.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 10, 2010, 10:57 AM
well  just toss  some  bass  right in that pond  for  you!!!!!  no problem  ,don't  even have  to thank me  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 10, 2010, 04:49 PM
Ok...so bass aside...what were the bluegill hitting?

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 10, 2010, 07:11 PM
Anti Bass??.....Not sure there is such a thing. Seems a bass will eat what ever doesn't eat it first....
In reference to the " ANTI-BASS FLY"..... That would be a bass fly that I had tied!!!! You 'Ol farts get the picture!!  LOL!!--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 10, 2010, 07:22 PM
LOL KP!! Nah I can make the most ugly looking wad of hair and feathers on a hook anyone has ever seen.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 10, 2010, 07:56 PM
In reference to the " ANTI-BASS FLY"..... That would be a bass fly that I had tied!!!! You 'Ol farts get the picture!!  LOL!!--KP ;D

Don't listen to KP's nonsense....remember a week or so back when I posted a pic or two of some fly's he tied for me? He has skill. KP, you fibber! :P
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 11, 2010, 01:47 AM
You guys are killin'e :rotflol:

Y'all want to see some ugly flies eh? Later on I'm gonna get out my old pike flies. They resemble the aftermath of 4 roosters killed and eaten by a fox........the fox, having donated some body parts as well.

I spent a while last Saturday cleaning out some fly boxes to make room for some newer patterns. I have a full collection of "road kill flies" . I was getting a good laugh at some of the stuff I've kept in my boxes for years.

Anyone who's been bitten by this addiction suffers at the hands of their own criticism.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 11, 2010, 10:09 AM
Holy cow I hit 1,000!!!
On the ole farts thread, now that has meaning....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 11, 2010, 12:05 PM
You're officially an old blabbermouth ;D

Thanks for all your contributions to the site :clapping:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Aug 11, 2010, 03:25 PM
Don't listen to KP's nonsense....remember a week or so back when I posted a pic or two of some fly's he tied for me? He has skill. KP, you fibber! :P
Have you used them yet!!!!????HUH ??? ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 11, 2010, 04:39 PM
Don't listen to KP's nonsense....remember a week or so back when I posted a pic or two of some fly's he tied for me? He has skill. KP, you fibber! :P
I would like to say that I have tied a few flies in my day!!! But, Trapper and RG have the fly tying down to a "T". If I had more time to tie flies.... I would consider myself in the running with those two 'Ol Farts!!!! Keep up the good work Gentlemen!!!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 11, 2010, 06:47 PM
Have you used them yet!!!!????HUH ??? ;D

Not yet JR. Brought them up to Chaumont bay last weekend, but never got the fly rod out. Shame on me, cause Long bay, that I was camping on had some great looking water to try. Got too busy keeping the family fed and happy! Your pops knows about all that stuff, I'm sure.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 11, 2010, 06:51 PM
I wouldn't have it any other way FM!! The kids are only little for a short time and I savor every moment!! As I'm sure you do as well!! Tightlines!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 11, 2010, 09:45 PM
Thanks RG!!
FM, there will be times when you will wish you never picked the fly rod up. When fish are rising everywhere and you can't catch one, or when the guy next to you is slamming them and even shows you what he is using. You have nothing like it. But it is an awesome way to fish when it all comes together...Keep taking care of the youngsters guys. Someday you'll need the favor returned.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 11, 2010, 11:46 PM
A pic or two of us mingling on the water!
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/Aug2010005.jpg)

My wife and son smiling for the camera
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/Aug2010003.jpg)

My daughter Kayla. She has now become a creature of her own.....All grown up now! Life is way too short man.
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/Aug2010009.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 12, 2010, 10:40 PM
sorry  i  havn't  been  posting much  guys  but i really  been  beeting the  water , got to  get the  summer in and fish as much as possiable ....what a year!!!!! fresh fish and lotssssss  of green beans !!  thanks  HT !  and  fish  i'm  doing well my  friend  just  fishing alot!!!!!!
                                                                                                                             life  is  good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 12, 2010, 11:32 PM
sorry  i  havn't  been  posting much  guys  but i really  been  beeting the  water , got to  get the  summer in and fish as much as possiable ....what a year!!!!! fresh fish and lotssssss  of green beans !!  thanks  HT !  and  fish  i'm  doing well my  friend  just  fishing alot!!!!!!
                                                                                                                             life  is  good

Geez...good to hear from ya Trap!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Aug 13, 2010, 06:04 AM
sorry  i  havn't  been  posting much  guys  but i really  been  beeting the  water , got to  get the  summer in and fish as much as possiable ....what a year!!!!! fresh fish and lotssssss  of green beans !!  thanks  HT !  and  fish  i'm  doing well my  friend  just  fishing alot!!!!!!
                                                                                                                             life  is  good
Holly Crap Trapper i thought you fell off the face of the earth or something  ??? ???  i didn't drop off that many beans   ;D ;D ;D ;D Oh ya did i mention that i like to fish once i a while myself  ???
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 13, 2010, 03:37 PM
so little  time ,so many lakes
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 14, 2010, 01:46 AM
If it's getting too stressful Trap, I'll take over for you ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 15, 2010, 07:27 AM
I'll help too!! Had a firemans golf tourney yesterday. Was fun, our company paid for us to enter. All proceeds benefited another local company. We shot 5 under for 18, good enough for second.....to last....
LOL, not to bad though as two of us only play a couple times a year. I now need to get some family problems taken care of so I can get back out there!!!! The water is calling my name.....Now if only some company would call it for a job!! LOL
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 15, 2010, 09:50 AM
5 under...second last???

Lying ...cheating golfers ;D I don't play tournaments as a rule. The league is bad enough ;D

I'm hoping to get 18 in this afternoon. 12:36 tee time at Ravenwood. But I'm not too convinced that the weather is gonna cooperate. Might have to go fishing again ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 15, 2010, 12:01 PM
UMMMMM! I would go fishing RG, Iv'e never golfed!! ;D--KP Have Fun!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 15, 2010, 04:47 PM
well RG  it  was  a little windy out there today  so i took the  boat , i  fished  for  bass  basicly  but  seen a  bent  pole   on the shore,  i went  to  check it out to  find a  old  friend i hadn't seen in years!  and guess what bug has biten him !!!!!  carp  fishing! he  had  chumed a  area  and  used  corn   rigs  and  was having a ball hooking up , we  ended up  bsing  for almost a  hour ....talked flyfishing and trapping and  of course  carp! ...flyfishing  and carp...see how they go together !!!! so i'm going  back  tonight and chumming the heck out of a area .....  in the morning  i'm going to be there  fly rod on hand ..... by the  way  3  small bass  last night   from oswego  river  and  3  ok bass  today  wind  made  it  tough  tossing  flys  ,all  came  on  rabbit  striped sculpin patterns  fished  slow ..... black  and  olive  seemed  to  be the  colors  ...also  got  on nice  crappie  ......  bass  are  on the  grill  with  HT's  famous  summer  sqush!!!!! hey  rg  did  you mail something to me ,asking because i havn't  gotten it  ....take  care  gentilmen  and   get out there!!!!!!   

                                                                                                                          life  is  good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 15, 2010, 05:04 PM
Oye Trapper! I completely forgot about the motor. Sorry about that ....I'll get it out tomorrow.

Have fun with "Ole Liver Lips". Rabbit food (the pellet type) makes great overnight chum.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 16, 2010, 04:20 PM
i  found   carp like   brown  stone  flie  nymphs  soaked  in  vanilla  extract  :w00t:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 17, 2010, 01:48 AM
Cool! I'm gonna give that a try in the back yard honey hole. They've been very uncooperative this year.....so far.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 17, 2010, 09:06 AM
i hooked  up  twice  landing a  smaller  fish  rg ...was  fun  ....  i simple  used  vanilla  extract  on the  flie  like  dressing ...  cheatin ????  who  cares  i'm a  old  fart i  get too  ;D
                                                                                                                                     life  is  good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Aug 17, 2010, 09:09 AM
i hooked  up  twice  landing a  smaller  fish  rg ...was  fun  ....  i simple  used  vanilla  extract  on the  flie  like  dressing ...  cheatin ????  who  cares  i'm a  old  fart i  get too  ;D
                                                                                                                                     life  is  good
That's not cheating! that's called being an *opportunist my Friend*   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
heck i would hook a fat head on the end of that fly if i had too  ::) ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 17, 2010, 01:52 PM
i'm  hooking  some  corn ,crappies ,and  corn bread  for  the  perfect  diner!!!!!  all  corn  caught  and  delievered  by  HT  .....  windy  again this  morning  ,i'm  going to head   down to the  river  at 5  for  the  afternoon shift  to see if  i  can  hit a  few  fish  behind  dilts  ...let ya  know  when i  get back  gang
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 17, 2010, 03:32 PM
I checked the "back yard" on the way home. Too stained from the heavy rains on Sunday to do much tomorrow. The good news (for me) is I decided to take a few days off. No work till Monday next.  :clapping:

I'm thinking I'll prowl the canal in the boat tomorrow morning...tee time is at noon. That ought to give me enough time with the fly chaser to get some bass and crappie for dinner......for a few days ;D

Life is good Trapper ;D

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Aug 18, 2010, 06:43 AM
enjoy your free time RG and catch one or two for me  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 18, 2010, 06:47 AM
smallies and a few crapaziods last night ....they  have been spraying oswego river  to kill the weeds ,what effects this has on fish and for how long i don't know..... i think i might hit the  lake  this morning  and  just  take my time with  coffee breaks  and  watch  for  anything interesting ...
                                                                                                                        life  is good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 18, 2010, 07:32 PM
spend  most the  day  chucking  feathers  at  fish  few  small bass   some  decent  kills  and  a  zillion  little  silver  bass  and  one  goose!!!!  thats  right  a  goose! 
                                                                                                                      life  is  good
                                                                                                                       and  sometimes  funny
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 18, 2010, 10:53 PM
Can ya elaborate on the goose story Trap? I'm all ears! You never cease to amaze me regarding your daily ventures. God bless.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Aug 19, 2010, 09:57 AM
spend  most the  day  chucking  feathers  at  fish  few  small bass   some  decent  kills  and  a  zillion  little  silver  bass  and  one  goose!!!!  thats  right  a  goose! 
                                                                                                                      life  is  good
                                                                                                                       and  sometimes  funny
That must have been fun!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 19, 2010, 12:49 PM
Never hooked a goose...seagulls, a domestic duck or two...and a dog. Stupid ducks....poor puppy :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Aug 19, 2010, 01:18 PM
i have hooked sea gulls,ducks,musk rats, and a beaver once when i was bull head fishing one night. that thing was not a happy camper.  ??? ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 19, 2010, 01:22 PM
I'm heading for the crick in a bit to hook some smallmouth...I hope ;D I need some bait for tomorrow morning too...a nice bucket of crayfish will work very nicely.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 19, 2010, 06:05 PM
there  are no  crayfish  they  ate  them  all  in  another board ....

as  for  the  goose  like  a  fool  i tossed  my  left  over  sandwhich  to them  ,left  rod  in holder  of  boat  with  my  sculpin  tangling ....  after  i  backed  truck  up  i  was  rather  glad  i  locked  the  rod  holder  he  was  ahhh  taken  line!!!!  no  i hooked  a  beaver  he  broke off...muskrat  became  dubbing  sea  gul  and  duck  flew  away  after  ....a  goose  ...not  a  friendly  bird!  the  fight  wasn't  getting  him  to the  net  but  unhooking  him  was a challenge  ......thanks  to my  surgical  skills  and  heart less nature  ...the  goose  is  free  with only  a  sore  tongue  ....i  did  end  up  with a  lot  of  feathers  ....if  anyone  wants  to see  my goose  fly   ,let me  know

                                                                                                                                                               life  is  good 
                                                                                                                                                         unless  your  a  dumb  goose

  i  have  to  go  post  on  goose  on a  weber  in  the  cooking  board
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 19, 2010, 06:32 PM
hey  fm ...a  big  thank  you  to  your  man!!!!!   really  came  threw  for  me ....just  let  me  know  how  to  sq  up  with ya   bro
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 19, 2010, 09:23 PM
your OK for a catch and release Trap, be careful though, those DEC officers can come up with some trumped up ideas your targeting a species out of season..... ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 20, 2010, 01:33 AM
Picked about 100 crayfish in 45 minutes or so. Took the ultralight and the spinner box with me and played with the bass and gills. I'm gonna launch in a couple of hours and see what I can pull up for dinner. The freezer is empty (of fish). All those nice spring walleye, crappies and perch have met their ultimate fate.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 20, 2010, 08:59 AM
i  think  the  turn   has  started !  fish  are  starting  to  play  more ;D RG  lets  work  on a  fall supply  in that  freezor!  i  really  do  suggest  you  come  up  for  the  oneida  lake  walleye  shake  down this  fall....best  walleye  fishing i  ever  experanced  and  what  a  group of  guys ,always  something to laugh  about! 

GRASSHOPPER  TIME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 20, 2010, 10:51 AM
My boat paid me back for ignoring it all summer. First pull and the recoil rope broke. I motored down to a point on electric and anchored while I pulled the recoil off to put a new rope on it. Unfortunately, one of the pawl springs was broken.

Sooooooo....I motored back to the launch (glad I charged my trolling motor battery) and loaded back up. Dropped the boat at home, went up to Pugsley's Marine and picked up a whole set of pawl springs. They've never failed to have parts for my motor.

A quick stop for some groceries and back home in about an hour total. It took 15 minutes to complete the repair and button it back up. I'm gonna have some lunch and a siesta and try once again. I'll say this, the early morning water was boiling with schools of gizzard shad and pinheads. The bass and crappies were very active.

I hope the evening is as active. I've got some flies just waiting to be inhaled.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 20, 2010, 06:22 PM
hey  fm ...a  big  thank  you  to  your  man!!!!!   really  came  threw  for  me ....just  let  me  know  how  to  sq  up  with ya   bro
A big your welcome Trap....no squaring up needed, except for maybe a few more of your ever so popular flies next time we meet. Well, and maybe a man date to go flyfishing, so I can learn some new techniques!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 20, 2010, 06:27 PM
Picked about 100 crayfish in 45 minutes or so. Took the ultralight and the spinner box with me and played with the bass and gills. I'm gonna launch in a couple of hours and see what I can pull up for dinner. The freezer is empty (of fish). All those nice spring walleye, crappies and perch have met their ultimate fate.

RG


My freezer has that same problem RG, shop has been so dang busy, all my fishing has been through this forum...and you guys. The fall walleye night bite is coming up soon, and I'm gonna take time to learn the Salmon river this fall. Till then gonna stick to the grind, and try to bank as much as possible. Never know when a slow time will hit!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 20, 2010, 07:34 PM
when i  get back  you  got it!!!!!  fm  .....  hey  you  bring the  coffee ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 20, 2010, 09:20 PM
when i  get back  you  got it!!!!!  fm  .....  hey  you  bring the  coffee ;D

Shoot Trap.... you know that I always have coffee on at the shop! The coffee service company I use love me, cause one of my employees drinks about 5 pots a day on average. ???
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 21, 2010, 03:01 AM
5 pots a day ???
At 12 cups that's 60 cups of coffee a day. If he works 10 hours that's a cup of coffee every 10 minutes.
At 6 oz per cup, that's 360 ounces  or 2.8 gallons of coffee per day.
If he works a 5 day week, that's 14 gallons of coffee a week, 56 gallons per month, 675 gallons a year.

How do you get him out of the john to work on a car?
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 21, 2010, 07:31 AM
 :rotflol: :rotflol: :clapping:
Soooo, do you have a coffee payroll deduction????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 21, 2010, 07:59 AM
from experance, i  can  tell you  fm  has a great  crew!!!!  im not  just saying that  either,  now fm that  coffee room would be a great place  to have  some fly tying lessions  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 21, 2010, 02:09 PM
That is hilarious Rg, I can't believe you spent the time to make them calculations. I didn't say this employee is very wasteful also. As soon as it gets cold, he dumps it and makes a new cup. He goes through a bag of sugar a week, and a pint of half and half a day! I guess he likes to take advantage of that fringe benny. I don't buy the sugar and creamer very often any more. That got old.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 21, 2010, 05:48 PM
It didn't take me too long to do those calculations...I can't help it. When I see something I turn it into numbers. Drives my boss crazy when I tell him what the job really cost. He hates it when I burst his bubble gum.

Speaking of my boss, he'd run neck and neck with your guy. He makes an extra large coffee with (and I saw this at a McDonald"s) 16 sugars and 6 creamers.


Anyway...enough of the coffee.

Fly tying advice;
Never...never...never tie just 1 of an experimental fly :-\

I was testing some hoppers (thanks for the tip Trapper) and the one that was most productive was the only one I tied like that.

On another note, I had a smallish bluegill on the line and a pike in the 36" range attacked it coming clear out of the water when it hit. It was on for a couple of minutes. Dang thing just wouldn't give up it's dinner. I was pleasantly surprised at how well the 4 lb fluorocarbon tippit held up. Poor little bluegill was pretty beat up. Fun though ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Aug 21, 2010, 06:04 PM
RG, You do like numbers!!!!!--KPJr.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 21, 2010, 06:25 PM
i  did  that  once  RG     now  i  always  tie  at  least  3  ...hopper  and  crickets    come  into  there  own  this  time  of  year    gills   bass and  trout   hammer  them . i  learned  this  many years  ago  fishing a  favorite  trout  stream i tossed  everything  with out  much luck  i   got  out  of the  stream  started  walking  back  and  a  grass  hopper  took off  hitting the  water  ...he  made  it  about  5  seconds  in the  pool  till   he  was  gone  and  there  were  rings  in the  water ... keep  fishing  them  RG  soon  you will  know  the  power  of  the  hopper!!!! not  to mention  there  are   many  patterns   for  all fly  tying  levels
                                                                                                                        live  is  good 
                                                                                                                        unless  yer a  hopper  floating  downstream
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 21, 2010, 07:15 PM
I'll tie up a few more tomorrow  and put up a picture Trap. it's a pretty cool pattern that can be sized as needed.  I couldn't believe how the gills completely inhaled these things. I had 4 color combinations and just 1 was the killer.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 22, 2010, 04:44 AM
them  silly  ole  gills!!!   slurp  slurp  ......ain't  it  cool ....they  even  taste  better  when  caught  on a  fly  rod  too ya know!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 22, 2010, 08:01 AM
Gotta put a few of those in the box for KP. It's a good rainy day today. I've got nuttin to do ;D.....till I hit the stream this evening. Those scaly little munchers should be all fired up to feed with this fresh rain.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 22, 2010, 01:51 PM
we   should  have   a  fly  and  jig  swap  get  together  soon !hell  we  can  get  these   JR OLD FARTS started not to mention we  can  drink  fm's  coffee   ;D

think  hopper  ...think  hopper!!!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 22, 2010, 02:16 PM
Great idea Trap...except...it implies that I would have to give up some of my jigs :unsure:

Flies I can swap....but ...jigs.....I'm shaking just thinking about it.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 22, 2010, 02:36 PM
GO AHEAD RG!! Put some of those infamous jigs in that box too... GO AHEAD... It won't hurt!!!! LOL!!!! You 'Ol Buzzards are something else!!!  Just remember.... I'm the only one who can tie the ANTI-BASS fly!!!! Just not seasoned enough just yet!!!! ;) Tightlines Gents!!--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 22, 2010, 03:13 PM
(http://blog.pappastax.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/mr-bill-ohh-nooo-magnet-c11751410.jpg)

OHH NOOOOO Mr. BILL.....NOT MY JIGS!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 22, 2010, 03:46 PM
Ok, bear with me here, I've never tried this before. Here's a step by step for "Bob's Hopper"

This assumes some basic understanding of fly tying. :-\

#12 dry fly, drop eye
chartreuse sparkle chenille
6/0 chartreuse flat waxed thread
1/8" tan closed cell foam
deer or elk hair, natural or bleached

Wrap hook with sparkle chenille.
Bring thread forward, tie off chenille and return thread to center
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/hopperinstructions005.jpg)
cut a 1/4" wide strip of foam, 1 1/4" long. clip 1 end to a blunt point
apply super glue to top of chenille and tie in foam
tie in leg on each side and move the thread forward, under the foam
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/hopperinstructions006.jpg)
Tie down the foam at the head
cut, clean and stack a small pinch of deer or elk hair (I prefer deer, it floats better)
tie in and clip ends to 1/8" or so
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/hopperinstructions007.jpg)
fold foam back and tie in
move thread forward to whip finish
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/hopperinstructions008.jpg)
Finished with a drop of super glue
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/hopperinstructions009.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/hopperinstructions010.jpg)

This thing was killing the bluegills. I imagine a trout or bass would think it looks yummy too.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 22, 2010, 04:30 PM
excellent  RG !!!!!  in  black  it's  a  great  cricket  to!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 22, 2010, 04:35 PM
Thanks Trapper,
It's simple really.

I tossed some in black, green, yellow and chartreuse last night with boring results. This one was the hot ticket. Of coures I only made one.....originally ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 22, 2010, 05:21 PM
there  is  several  patterns   close  to  that   used   as   gaint  stone   flies   i  change  it  around  a  bit  ....  and  have  good  results  just remeber  those  others  you  tied   may  be  the  fly  tomorrow!    great   fly    bob!   will  be  in my  box   for  sure
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 22, 2010, 08:35 PM
Nice RG. Will have to try experimenting with foam this winter. Made a  move with the vice this week, in the spare room. Set it up on my wife's craft table. Started looking through her stuff, may have some ideas....SHHHH
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 23, 2010, 01:33 AM
You can get a lifetime supply of foam at Wally World in their craft department for about $6.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 23, 2010, 02:09 PM
rg   just  a  suggestion  try  using  zap a  gap  sometime    instead  of  super   glue  see  how  you like  it
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 23, 2010, 05:40 PM
I have Zap a Gap Trap........hey that rhymes ;D

I bought several 3 packs of original Super Glue .7 oz. bottles at Big Lots for $1.00 each. I like it for most work and it keeps a bit better that Zappa (not "Brown Shoes Don't Make It!" Frank).

Zap a Gap definitely has it's place.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Aug 24, 2010, 08:09 AM
Went over across the street yesterday to the pond and I brought my fly rod and my baitcaster.On one of KP's flies he gave me ,I caught 10 bluegills. On my baitcaster I caught  1 Largemouth bass on a tube jig!!!!!!!!!--KpJr.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 24, 2010, 02:52 PM
kp jr  ya  do us  all  proud!!!!  wait  till  ya  hook a steelie  with  the  flyrod   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 24, 2010, 03:19 PM
He got himself a dandy of a steelhead last November Trap!! Noodle rod though on a egg fly. Looks as though we're going to let him bottom bounce one more season, then, we'll let 'Ol Trap show him the ropes with flyrod fishing next year.  ;) Tightlines gents!!--KP   RG, make sure you use GOOD glue on those jigs for me buddy!!!!! :P
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 24, 2010, 06:42 PM
Sounds like Jr has some really good teachers, for fishing in general....Way to go young man!!
I spent the afternoon dropping the gas tank on my Jeep to pull the fuel pump. Get to play tomorrow putting it in YEAH!!!! I've got to move out closer to FM!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 24, 2010, 08:26 PM
Sounds like Jr has some really good teachers, for fishing in general....Way to go young man!!
I spent the afternoon dropping the gas tank on my Jeep to pull the fuel pump. Get to play tomorrow putting it in YEAH!!!! I've got to move out closer to FM!!

Those big Ol' screw on hold downs for the pump module can be a real pain to get on and off 1 fish without the correct tool. A real big pair of channel locks will work in a bind.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 25, 2010, 02:22 AM
It's all about the tools FM. I remember (I already sound old) when you could do just about anything you needed to a vehicle with a set of open end wrenches and a socket set....maybe a screwdriver and hammer or two.

I also remember when fuel pumps were mounted on the engine and driven off the cam. One of my first jobs was in an auto parts warehouse. Late 60's. I loved that job....except for exhaust pipes and mufflers.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 25, 2010, 06:23 AM
Sounds like Jr has some really good teachers, for fishing in general....Way to go young man!!
I spent the afternoon dropping the gas tank on my Jeep to pull the fuel pump. Get to play tomorrow putting it in YEAH!!!! I've got to move out closer to FM!!
I can teach him the basics of life and fishing in general.... BUT, Sometimes I gotta let the 'Ol buzzards help out once in awhile. He's a great kid!!!! He really appreciates all the words of wisdom and the funny stuff you guys provide for him on here.... THANKS!!! Tightlines Gentlemen!! RG, Enjoy your Wednesday off and go catch some fish!!! ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Aug 25, 2010, 07:11 AM
kp jr  ya  do us  all  proud!!!!  wait  till  ya  hook a steelie  with  the  flyrod   ;D
Thats the next thing i want to do on the Salmon River, then the center pin!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 25, 2010, 07:12 AM
ang  old farts  can learn  from  him   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Aug 25, 2010, 07:19 AM
ang  old farts  can learn  from  him   ;D
Yup,And the fee would be 2 of the best flies they got!!!!!! ;D ;D Also, I have a question, What is spey casting?????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Aug 25, 2010, 07:25 AM
WHERE'S GAMMA?!?!?!?!? ;D ??? ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 25, 2010, 07:44 AM
i  don't know anything  about  that  kp  sorry
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 25, 2010, 08:32 AM
This should give you an idea JR. Quite a few people spey fish the SR.
http://www.flyfishusa.com/lines/About_Spey_Fishing.html (http://www.flyfishusa.com/lines/About_Spey_Fishing.html)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 25, 2010, 09:10 AM
This one was held in with small fine thread hex head bolts. Had to spray the crap out of them and use the vice grips to get them started, then the 8mm nut driver to remove. Yeah even a 1991 American made Jeep has metric bolts and nuts everywhere. Well at least a healthy dose of them, except the chassis. What still gets me irate is the auto manufacturers with more than one production plant outsourcing parts from different manufacturers.
To get a part for your vehicle you basically have to pull the part and match it up. Just because you have a '91 and I have a '91 doesn't mean they have the same parts on them. Depends on where it was built, and where that plant bought the part. Pain in the BUTT!! I'm going to have to wait for the pump to be ordered. LOL, so what else is new. I sometimes wish I wasn't able to do most of my own work, and was rich enough to have others do it for me.....as what ever they charge is worth not having the hassles!!
And yes KP, though we may stray from the subject matter of the original post, we do have some gems of wisdom to pass down.....well maybe not gems, but at least pretty rocks.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 25, 2010, 10:41 AM
WOW, you guys must not use much salt up there....a 91 is unheard of in CNY, unless it's stored in the winter. The style pump I was referring to didn't start till somewhere around 95-96. I do remember your style though. Very similar to toyota's, maybe even "borrowed" from Toyota. ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Aug 25, 2010, 10:45 AM
WHERE'S GAMMA?!?!?!?!? ;D ??? ;D
I'm here Jr. !    I'm keeping an eye on you ! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Aug 25, 2010, 11:38 AM
This should give you an idea JR. Quite a few people spey fish the SR.
http://www.flyfishusa.com/lines/About_Spey_Fishing.html (http://www.flyfishusa.com/lines/About_Spey_Fishing.html)
That would take some practice!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Aug 25, 2010, 11:41 AM
I'm here Jr. !    I'm keeping an eye on you ! ;D ;D ;D
You been to the chiropractor yet??!!!!??
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Aug 25, 2010, 12:23 PM
You been to the chiropractor yet??!!!!??
Yes and no.   Long story !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 25, 2010, 12:34 PM
WOW, you guys must not use much salt up there....a 91 is unheard of in CNY, unless it's stored in the winter. The style pump I was referring to didn't start till somewhere around 95-96. I do remember your style though. Very similar to toyota's, maybe even "borrowed" from Toyota. ;D

Believe me it's catty!! You can throw one through it most anywhere..... But it runs great, the drive train is 100%.
Now watch the dang thing will blow up next week....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 25, 2010, 10:18 PM
Running 100% again. Even doing the work myself was over 100.00.....Now if only my son would remember what he did with the gas cap..... ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: chaser99 on Aug 26, 2010, 05:24 PM
see ya saturday 1fish?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 26, 2010, 06:53 PM
Not sure, don't really have a partner. Plus the way I've been throwing lately, I'd just be giving you my money!! ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 28, 2010, 07:50 AM
the  fall  feeding   binge  will soon  be  here  ,  a  great  time  to  be  on the  water  along  with  mr  steelie   finding  his  way  up  the  tribs  .....  i  hope  i  have  as  good  a  fall as  i  have  summer 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 28, 2010, 11:42 AM
You keep after'em Trap. I want to see pics of the steelies you find!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 28, 2010, 11:50 AM
Been yard fly fishing alot lately (at night after work) with my friend and neighbor Walleye1, watch out guys....here we come. He even dug out an old vice and a bunch of tying gear for me to start playing with. (I think he said his grandfather turned it all over to him before passing) Here comes the questions very soon Trap, RG, and 1Fish.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 28, 2010, 12:15 PM
We're here for ya bud ;D

I just finished repairing the exhaust on my little red truck...I'm headed for the bench after lunch. Need some more hoppers for this evening and tomorrow.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 28, 2010, 12:46 PM
Thanks RG....Continue posting tying info. and pics if ya would, gonna come in handy for me. Do you have any suggestions why my SA reel with a single drag, and Walleye1's Martin reel with a single drag (cam and spring system on both). Neither one of them seem to work well at all. Is it just inferior gear?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 28, 2010, 04:20 PM
Have you cleaned them? Disassemble to the last component.

Clean and lubricate with good quality reel grease. I use Berkley. Make sure you rinse the parts thoroughly in isopropyl alcohol to remove any solvents. Not good to transfer to your fly line.

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 28, 2010, 07:34 PM
Yup, what he said FM. That's the major problem with most peoples fly reels. I have an old Martin, bought in '81.
It needs a complete cleaning every year, and a good spray down every few times out.
My son bought a Cabelas 5wt. With a dual drag system on it. It works a little better, but not a lot. Plus he can't turn the dang clicker off on it...Drives me nuts!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 29, 2010, 03:30 AM
The answer is yes RG, and 1Fish.....Both reels are very easy to split, and then disassemble. when I got to the spring and cam mechanisms on both reels......My thoughts were "Who was the Engineer on this cruddie system" I did clean all of the factory grease from both reals(SP4820 Unchlorinated parts cleaner). Consumed a couple cocktails as I analyzed the wanna be spring/cam drag system on both reels. Why even place that option on a fly reel in my young opinion? If ya want a drag system, then stick with spinners. That is the way I am starting  to feel regarding fly reels and drag systems. Let my fingers and hands do the work.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 29, 2010, 05:48 AM
The one nice thing about them is (especially in the river where I fish mostly) when stripping line to cast you don't have the whole spool dumped at your feet. What a mess if it does and catches the current and swirls....
Other than that yes you right, worthless....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 29, 2010, 03:57 PM
I probably should have known better. Keep in mind that it's not really a drag system. It's a "spool slower downer" system :-\  It does, as 1fish explained, keep the spool from over spinning and tangling the fly line. An absolute disaster.

On a positive note, I spent the entire day in the stream :clapping:

9:00 this morning, I threw my vest, wading sneakers, some water and a plum in my little backpack...grabbed my flyrod and hiked down to the crick. There was a section of my backyard stream that had never fished, so I got in and fished it to the next bridge East. About 4 miles of stream. I found several good holes and had a ball with bluegills and smallmouth. I gave some new terrestrials a thorough testing  but had the best luck on my "Mini Clouser" in black/red/white. I got out of the stream at 3:30 and walked the few miles back home.

All I can say is ...I had fun ;D

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 29, 2010, 08:14 PM
without  some  kind  of  drag  or "spool  slower  downer"  otherwise  known  as  a  ssd  system   one  you  pull  line  and  get  a  birds  nest  or  two  a  fish  makes a  run stops  and  you  have  a  mess! i  palm  drag  a  big  fish (just  used  to  it)  martin  reels  really  work  well  if  you  work  with  there  limitations !  you  can  spend  what  ever  ya  want  ,  i  have  two  really  good  reels  in  my  cabnet  i  usually  take   my  old  medelist  ...totally  personal  preferance
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 30, 2010, 09:07 AM
AHHH...thanks guy's, A spool slower downer. Now that makes more sense. I think they are working properly now ya's explain it that way.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Chainsaw on Aug 30, 2010, 09:32 AM
I got that new Pflueger Triton 1990 to try this weekend and with the problem(s) I have with my hands I'm just picturing that ''...beautifly polished Rosewood handle.'' knocking the daylights out of my fingernails when a 20lb fish takes off and I'm tryin' to palm the spool. I'm thinking light leather glove here but am open to suggestion. I still gotta finish setting the system up though as I always find something going wrong if I don't stay ahead of the game.

See ya in Altmar Saturday(?). I'm hopin' Thursdays Chemo session won't make my feet too heavy to move to the good holes. Hope to see and meet some of you there. I'll be the Old F**t with a flyrod, (and maybe a spinner backup).
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 30, 2010, 11:18 AM
Go get'em Chainsaw!! Heck a couple bruised knuckles would be fine with me for a 20+ pound fish....LOL
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 30, 2010, 11:53 AM
I'll be there Sat. and/or Sunday Chainsaw. Hope to run into ya. I'll be bringing my 13' 8wt. St. croix and a spinner also, in case the fly is too much right now.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Chainsaw on Aug 30, 2010, 01:34 PM
I'll be all set 'cept for what I gotta tie on the leader end what gets 'em to bite(?). What are they hitting on now? I'm on with and 8lb. test Fluoro tip about four feet long. Gotta find stuff yet.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Aug 30, 2010, 02:01 PM
I'll be all set 'cept for what I gotta tie on the leader end what gets 'em to bite(?). What are they hitting on now? I'm on with and 8lb. test Fluoro tip about four feet long. Gotta find stuff yet.
blue kitchen foam and 20 year old orange rubber eggs  ::) ::) ::) ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 30, 2010, 02:28 PM
The answer is yes RG, and 1Fish.....Both reels are very easy to split, and then disassemble. when I got to the spring and cam mechanisms on both reels......My thoughts were "Who was the Engineer on this cruddie system" I did clean all of the factory grease from both reals(SP4820 Unchlorinated parts cleaner). Consumed a couple cocktails as I analyzed the wanna be spring/cam drag system on both reels. Why even place that option on a fly reel in my young opinion? If ya want a drag system, then stick with spinners. That is the way I am starting  to feel regarding fly reels and drag systems. Let my fingers and hands do the work.
Something tells me that, splitting a reel to reveal the springs and gears don't go together with cocktails!!! ;D--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 30, 2010, 02:42 PM
Unless your a Mek a nic.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 30, 2010, 02:51 PM
Yes, A fishing mek a nic..... LOL!! ;D--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Chainsaw on Aug 30, 2010, 06:10 PM
Nice thing about digital camera's eh? you can have an instant ''How to put it Back Together Again'' picture book you make as you go along taking things apart. Amazing how you can zoom into the tiniest detail, and with some models you can do video and watch where the springs and balls went that flew out unexpectady, sometimes.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 30, 2010, 06:23 PM
Chainsaw,
 Good to hear you fighting the good fight :clapping:........still ;D

When I started working as an apprentice gunsmith, I wondered what the "dis-assembly closet" was for. Then I got into taking semi autos, of all shapes and varieties, apart. The closet had a well lit, bare bench with a white tile floor and cove base sealed to the floor. The door had a vinyl floor seal.

When the springs and detent balls went flying, we could always find them ;D

One of my best was to leave an extra detent ball or tiny spring on the other gunsmith's bench when he was working on an Fn Fal. Them darn things have more parts than an F-16 fighter.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 30, 2010, 10:43 PM
One thing Mr. FM can pride himself about is his knack at the Ol' fashion disassemble, and reassemble process with most anything thrown in front of him. I believe that everyone has skills that are natural to them. I prefer to connect with people that can use my skills as a trade off for the gifts that can be shared in return ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Aug 30, 2010, 11:16 PM
One thing Mr. FM can pride himself about is his knack at the Ol' fashion disassemble, and reassemble process with most anything thrown in front of him. I believe that everyone has skills that are natural to them. I prefer to connect with people that can use my skills as a trade off for the gifts that can be shared in return ;)
Amen to that ! ;) ;)      Guitar lessons for Oil Changes !! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Aug 31, 2010, 08:25 AM
I'm left out in that respect, I got nothin!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 31, 2010, 07:06 PM
I can fix lights :-\

Amongst other things  ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 31, 2010, 09:55 PM
Well, here we go friends with my newest venture in the fly fishing realm. My neighbor and close friend Walleye1, as I previously reported,we have been getting ourselves more focused with this area of fishing. Walleye1 just happened to dig out some beautiful old tying gear that....I think his Grandfather gave him years ago. (I may be wrong, but he will amend it if I am). Brought it home tonight and layed alot of it out for some pics for you seasoned guys to see, and hopefully comment on. After I make this post, I am gonna play around for a bit. I do hope for some input from everyone here though! Looking for simple fly ideas to start with!

The vice is a clamp on style, I put a hook in it and drew down the clamp, held very well.
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/newflytyinggear001.jpg)

Here is a pic of the manufacturer, and the box it came in.
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/newflytyinggear008.jpg)

The remaining of the pics are the chenille, bobbins, multitudes of hairs, threads, etc. Some stuff I don't even know the name of ?  Thanks again Tim! ;)
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/newflytyinggear005.jpg)
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/newflytyinggear004.jpg)
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/newflytyinggear007.jpg)
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/newflytyinggear006.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Aug 31, 2010, 10:46 PM
With that kind of arseal in hand, you're all set for a major run of panfish catching bugs, bucktails and some glo-bugs for the steelheads, browns and half dead swimmers !   Let me know when you want a lesson or three ! ;) ;)
  And I know this guy who has 20 or 30 thousand jig heads laying around ! :whistling: :whistling: :whistling:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 01, 2010, 01:54 AM
You're in trouble now my friend. When do you plan to build the addition to your house? You're gonna need a lot more room.

Looks like Grandpa tied streamers and glow bugs.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 01, 2010, 02:39 AM
You're in trouble now my friend. When do you plan to build the addition to your house? You're gonna need a lot more room.

Looks like Grandpa tied streamers and glow bugs.

RG

Got a finished basement with a knick or crannie that I should be able to call my own. I think alot of the fabric was purchased by Walleye1 back when he was doing a lot of Steelie fishing on the SR.
Took a pic of my first fly, but for some reason I noticed a small damp spot on the interior lens of the cam. So if the pics are blurry, that is the reason. And I apoligize ahead of time
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/newfly005.jpg)

lets see if any of these pics came out better. This one makes the fly look like a friggin poodle IMO. Funny, I'm getting a kick from this
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/newfly001.jpg)


Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: walleye1 on Sep 01, 2010, 06:09 AM
Got a finished basement with a knick or crannie that I should be able to call my own. I think alot of the fabric was purchased by Walleye1 back when he was doing a lot of Steelie fishing on the SR.
Took a pic of my first fly, but for some reason I noticed a small damp spot on the interior lens of the cam. So if the pics are blurry, that is the reason. And I apoligize ahead of time
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/newfly005.jpg)

lets see if any of these pics came out better. This one makes the fly look like a friggin poodle IMO. Funny, I'm getting a kick from this
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/newfly001.jpg)




LMAO at the poodle fly!  ;D Who knows? It could be deadly. Actually I got that vice when I was in junior high. Believe it or not they did have vices back then.  ;) The rest of the stuff I bought through the years.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Sep 01, 2010, 06:10 AM
Looks like you started with an American Standard bred. Soon you'll be tying some miniatures and toys.....LOL
You'll be smiling from ear to ear when you get the first steelie or salmon on a fly you tied. Good job.
Hope you don't have a addictive personality, fly tying will drive you nuts if you do....That's why I keep my vice out of sight....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Sep 01, 2010, 07:33 AM
Well, here we go friends with my newest venture in the fly fishing realm. My neighbor and close friend Walleye1, as I previously reported,we have been getting ourselves more focused with this area of fishing. Walleye1 just happened to dig out some beautiful old tying gear that....I think his Grandfather gave him years ago. (I may be wrong, but he will amend it if I am). Brought it home tonight and layed alot of it out for some pics for you seasoned guys to see, and hopefully comment on. After I make this post, I am gonna play around for a bit. I do hope for some input from everyone here though! Looking for simple fly ideas to start with!

The vice is a clamp on style, I put a hook in it and drew down the clamp, held very well.
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/newflytyinggear001.jpg)

Here is a pic of the manufacturer, and the box it came in.
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/newflytyinggear008.jpg)

The remaining of the pics are the chenille, bobbins, multitudes of hairs, threads, etc. Some stuff I don't even know the name of ?  Thanks again Tim! ;)
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/newflytyinggear005.jpg)
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/newflytyinggear004.jpg)
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/newflytyinggear007.jpg)
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/newflytyinggear006.jpg)
Looks like your all set!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 01, 2010, 05:54 PM
Boy I wish the pics weren't so blurry. That's an interesting fly.

Question.....what are you going to target? Bass...bluegills...trout....salmon???

Trap's gonna have to take you shopping.  :P

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 01, 2010, 06:48 PM
Boy I wish the pics weren't so blurry. That's an interesting fly.

Question.....what are you going to target? Bass...bluegills...trout....salmon???

Trap's gonna have to take you shopping.  :P

RG

I'm gonna start with pans at first, then maybe move towards winter steelies
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Sep 01, 2010, 09:12 PM
I'm gonna start with pans at first, then maybe move towards winter steelies
Bring the chenille, calf tail red thread and a bobbin to the shop Friday.    I'll give you a couple quick pointers and tie up enough panfish jigs to last you a year ! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 02, 2010, 02:07 AM
Flies.....they're flies not jigs Mr. T !

Trapper...we're gonna have to save this guy from the "Jig Head" :-\

FM, do you have a decent pair of scissors yet ?

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Sep 02, 2010, 09:37 AM
Flies.....they're flies not jigs Mr. T !

Trapper...we're gonna have to save this guy from the "Jig Head" :-\

FM, do you have a decent pair of scissors yet ?

RG


Pack your lunch ! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 02, 2010, 12:51 PM
Stole a pair of grooming scissors from my daughters bedroom, only took her one day to start griping about them missing. Wait till she finds out where they went, and what dad has been using them for. :rotflol: :whistling:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 02, 2010, 06:00 PM
Pack your lunch ! ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm relatively old...but I have stamina...and, as of today I've dropped 20 lbs. If nothing else...I can out run you. Unless we're racing to the buffet ;D

FM...You NEED a decent pair of scissors. Next to your vise, it's the most important tool you'll own....and you know the value of a good tool. $20 or less will get you a really good pair. Dr Slick All Purpose are a very good buy.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Chainsaw on Sep 03, 2010, 04:16 AM
I'm relatively old...but I have stamina...and, as of today I've dropped 20 lbs. If nothing else...I can out run you. Unless we're racing to the buffet ;D

FM...You NEED a decent pair of scissors. Next to your vise, it's the most important tool you'll own....and you know the value of a good tool. $20 or less will get you a really good pair. Dr Slick All Purpose are a very good buy.
RG

I totally agree on this one. I keep half a dozen pair handy too. Some are downright expensive and gotta be guarded from nephews who'd use 'em as wire cutters. Get a real good couple of sets and guard 'em with yer life. When new the scissors on a good Swiss Army knife work fairly well streamside. you have to learn how to sharpen  them though with repeated use.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: pipeline on Sep 03, 2010, 06:14 AM
Stole a pair of grooming scissors from my daughters bedroom, only took her one day to start griping about them missing. Wait till she finds out where they went, and what dad has been using them for. :rotflol: :whistling:
[/she better sleep with one eye open  :o fly tyers like to experiment with different kinds of hair :o :oquote]
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: pipeline on Sep 03, 2010, 06:17 AM
well that dosent look right  any way she may have a new hair style !!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Sep 03, 2010, 11:56 AM
I'm relatively old...but I have stamina...and, as of today I've dropped 20 lbs. If nothing else...I can out run you. Unless we're racing to the buffet ;D


Yeah but I know your weakness !    All I have to do is set a bottle of Heineken and a couple ice jigs on the table and you'll be slobbering all over them like a 12 year old girl at a Justin Bieber concert ! ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 03, 2010, 02:39 PM
Dang I hate being predictable :-\

Stopped and saw the "Old Hippie" at gander today. Needed some materials and thread. I have to say, Pete has done a nice job stocking fly tying materials there. Good to see.

It was also nice to see his focus on customers. Rare for a big box store. Great job Doc :clapping:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Sep 03, 2010, 03:08 PM
Dang I hate being predictable :-\

Stopped and saw the "Old Hippie" at gander today. Needed some materials and thread. I have to say, Pete has done a nice job stocking fly tying materials there. Good to see.

It was also nice to see his focus on customers. Rare for a big box store. Great job Doc :clapping:

RG
I agree on all counts !   ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 03, 2010, 04:19 PM
Wait a  minute....we're agreeing on something... ???

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Sep 03, 2010, 04:51 PM
Wait a  minute....we're agreeing on something... ???

RG
Don't let it go to your head  ::) ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Sep 03, 2010, 05:15 PM
Got it marked on the calender RG. @ 2:39 pm, this day will live in infamy.... wait that was another day.
Any ways..... got the boat cleaned up today(dang trees) for a trip to the lake. Now looking like Monday will be the best bet for weather that won't blow you off the water. Good fly tying weekend....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: eyedoktr on Sep 03, 2010, 05:38 PM
Dang I hate being predictable :-\

Stopped and saw the "Old Hippie" at gander today. Needed some materials and thread. I have to say, Pete has done a nice job stocking fly tying materials there. Good to see.

It was also nice to see his focus on customers. Rare for a big box store. Great job Doc :clapping:

RG

Bob, great to see you. Sorry I didn't have time to chat.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 03, 2010, 05:39 PM
Don't let it go to your head  ::) ::) ;D ;D
Go to my head?

You should be honored  ;D

1fish Looks like I'll be tying tomorrow and Sunday. I hope to get "the Old Man" out Monday. I'm sure the stream will be fishable in the AM. No rain at all so far.Wind has been up and down. 0 - 30mph +. The temps and humidity finally broke and it's quite pleasant right now. Just had a real blast of North wind. A good 25 degrees cooler than when I got home at 2:30.

I'll run in the AM and then decide what the day is gonna be ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 03, 2010, 05:42 PM
No problem Pete.
I was pleased to see someone actually helping a customer who asked. They should hire more "Old Hippies".

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Sep 04, 2010, 07:53 AM
 :unsure:   Wonder when the Gander store will open here.....I may stand a chance at a job...... :flag:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: pipeline on Sep 05, 2010, 06:18 AM
one fish i was talking to a employee at the binghampton store friday and he said sometime in november also asked about their fire sale and rumors of he said that once the insurance company pays for damage its theirs to sell just like collision on your car so no good sales !!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Sep 05, 2010, 01:35 PM
OK so maybe Trapper is on to something regarding trolling..... We hit the water today at 7am. Wind was constant at 10-20mph, rain showers, Waves were running 1.5' unless the gusts got them going into rollers. First time I really wasn't comfy in the new boat. It sits high in the water and only 15' she gets to bobbing like one of those old drinking birds that perched on a glass.  :blink: :sick:  Boat control was up to the big guy...I wasn't doing it.... ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 05, 2010, 01:45 PM
WHERE IS TRAPPER?????--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 05, 2010, 03:32 PM
he is fishing and doing well - i know  ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 05, 2010, 06:54 PM
I was a bit under the weather yesterday, so I worked on some patterns and re-arranged my bench so I can expand. I'm going to double my work area in the next week.

Anyway,
I'm still working on my Hellgrammite pattern...it's getting there.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/fromthebench001.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/fromthebench002.jpg)

And some fun with ants and beetles ;D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/fromthebench004.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/fromthebench003.jpg)

The other night I caught a nice smallie on one of these little green buggers.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/fromthebench005.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/fromthebench006.jpg)



Hopefully the weather will cooperate tomorrow morning so I can test these.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 05, 2010, 07:09 PM
RG you guys are someting when it comes to those flys ect. that takes a lot of time and i like it ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 06, 2010, 03:12 AM
It's addicting. Worse than that....I'm doubling the size of my fly bench and setting up a rod building bench. I haven't had that since I lost everything in a basement flood a number years ago. When that happened, I lost 20 years worth of fly tying and rod building materials. Despite all my efforts, everything mildewed, my benches warped and de-laminated...it all ended up in the dumpster.

Sad day!
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Sep 06, 2010, 12:39 PM
Today was a lot better. Two 5-6lb lakers and a 15" salmon!! Yeah team.....
Buddy lost a good fish on his streamer. I still have a couple that I tied years ago. Will have to try again. Need to get some more wire for double hooks. The rainbow smelt pattern was good this morning. Then went to a gold spoon. But fish in the boat.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Sep 06, 2010, 12:41 PM
Hellgrammite looks great RG. Those little beetles are really cool. I'll try messing with foam a little this winter.
If the ice fishing allows.... ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 06, 2010, 01:58 PM
It's a work in progress. I have another one in the vise that I started this morning. I was tying and thought...."what the he__ are you doing here?"

I grabbed a few boxes of flies and donned my waders. First I hit a nice hole I usually fish in the evening. Got a few gills and little smallies on hoppers and beetles. Tried streamers and my miniature clousers...not much. Tied on a hellgrammite and hooked a few rockies and bluegills. Had one big hit on the hellie. Only had it for a few seconds. Probably a largemouth.

I moved to another part of the stream that I've never fished and tied on a dace imitation I used to make for another warm water creek. I had a ball from then on. Bluegills, rockies and smallmouth....oh my! What a riot.

Bad part was, I only had 4 of those flies. Three in a silver pattern and one in gold...they didn't like the gold :-\

I sat down to rest on a nice boulder and was adding a new piece of tippet. I'm sure I put the one was using on my vest, but when I went to tie it on...it was gone. I dug out one of the 2 remaining and promptly hung it in a tree about 25' in the air........1.left....I decided to call it a day. I needed one to duplicate.

A great day though. Watched the blackest mink I've ever seen for a good long time. Man I like those critters.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 06, 2010, 03:54 PM
Life is good RG!!-KP ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 06, 2010, 08:02 PM
Life is good RG!!-KP ;)
it was nice to see you again today my freind and the boy!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 07, 2010, 03:34 PM
Jr. want to go goose hunting HT!!!! ;) Then I can send feathers to the 'Ol Farts on this thread!!! ;)--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 07, 2010, 04:07 PM
We can always use more material (assuming you'd be kind enough to include me ;D)

I've been carrying a pocket knife with me on my morning run...2 gray and 1 red squirrel tails so far. Road kill flies......I love it :rotflol:
I need to throw some stuff in my bucket truck for harvesting. The deer are stacking up on the roads. Counted 9 on 390 south from Rochester to Bath this morning.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 07, 2010, 04:16 PM
Do ya have to do anything to prep them tails for storage? Like soak in brine solution?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 07, 2010, 04:31 PM
Do ya have to do anything to prep them tails for storage? Like soak in brine solution?
take the bone out and salt it
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 07, 2010, 04:41 PM
Squirrel are generally left on the bone. It's mostly tendons. Deer tails have to be removed from the bones and the meat and fat eviscerated. Salting with pickling or kosher salt works....remove all the fat you can or it will eventually stink beyond your wife's tolerance :-\ Salt it down good and put it in the refrigerator for a month or so....or salt it down and wrap it loosely in newspaper and store it in the garage...protected from bugs and animals.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 07, 2010, 06:40 PM
Squirrel are generally left on the bone. It's mostly tendons. Deer tails have to be removed from the bones and the meat and fat eviscerated. Salting with pickling or kosher salt works....remove all the fat you can or it will eventually stink beyond your wife's tolerance :-\ Salt it down good and put it in the refrigerator for a month or so....or salt it down and wrap it loosely in newspaper and store it in the garage...protected from bugs and animals.

RG
Is eviscerated kinda like evicted???  ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Chainsaw on Sep 07, 2010, 08:06 PM
Do ya have to do anything to prep them tails for storage? Like soak in brine solution?

A 3 to 1 mix of salt and Borax. The salt cures and dries and the Borax prevents bugs. New York State Museum recipe for preservation.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 08, 2010, 06:10 PM
Is eviscerated kinda like evicted???  ;D--KP 8)
Kinda ;)

Never thought of adding the borax...Thanks for the tip.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 09, 2010, 05:27 PM
Good tips guys. Gonna try a few more fly's tonight if I get a chance. Pics to follow if I think they are worthy or funny enough.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 09, 2010, 05:32 PM
Post 'em anyways FM!! If I can ever get my photobucket acct. figured out.... I'll post some I have tied over the last year!! Always good for the head at times to go to the vise to unwind!! ;) LIFE IS GOOD!!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 09, 2010, 07:12 PM
KP, You're gonna confuse the bejeebers out of FM...You WIND at the vise...not unwind ;D

Post those pics!
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 09, 2010, 10:05 PM
Well Gents, Walleye1 and I have been hanging out in the basement for an hour or so, playing around with the fly bench. Found out tonight that Mookie got into all those nice calf tails that I left out on the bench after the last time I played around. Now all the real hair is history except for tufts of hair spread around the basement floor. Thanks Mook! Well here is a couple pics of W1 and I playing around and having a nice friendly laugh with each other.

Walleye1 being studious.
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/Lanceandtimtying011.jpg)
FM at his turn on the bench
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/Lanceandtimtying013.jpg)
W1 at his best now saying "Grasshopper, this is how ya roll a bobbin"
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/Lanceandtimtying016.jpg)
My turn at the bench again, trying to show W1 up, at no progress
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/Lanceandtimtying012.jpg)
Now, here is some pics of our outcome. Have fun with these men....cause we did!
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/Lanceandtimtying014.jpg)
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/Lanceandtimtying019.jpg)
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/lasttie001.jpg)
And last but not least...W1's Grean Butt Skunk, lacking some green. :P
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/lasttie001-1.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 10, 2010, 01:29 AM
That's the way to get after them guys ;D

Now...get them wet and see what happens.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: walleye1 on Sep 10, 2010, 07:38 AM
That's the way to get after them guys ;D

Now...get them wet and see what happens.

RG

It must be painful for you to see these pics RG.  ;D It's been 20+ years since I sat down in front of the vise and I think it's blatantly obvious! Give me and FM a couple of weeks and I think you'll see an improvement. This all depends on if we can keep Mookie out of the materials. 

FM - Had a blast!!!!  ;) ;D   
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Sep 10, 2010, 07:46 AM
Hey guys....Your last post W1 sums it up...Have fun. Like RG said, tie one on(flies that is) and send it out.
A lot of secret special patterns were created by that method. I'm going to try a couple of smelt streamers.
I don't have any wire to use for a double hook, but do have some #3 long shanks that may just do. I'm going to remember to have the fly rod in the boat the next time out. The salmon were going nuts on the surface early. I want to try a smaller smelt pattern and strip it fast through them.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 10, 2010, 04:08 PM
KP, You're gonna confuse the bejeebers out of FM...You WIND at the vise...not unwind ;D

Post those pics!
RG
I think your right RG!! Look at the focus 'Ol FM has on that vise of his.... Wonder what was going through his mind then.... and I quote, " Now would RG wind this way or would KP unwind that way! ;D  Your doing good Lance, Keep it up Buddy!!!!  I'll take a couple of those butt green skunk flies!! ;D  They would probably work good on CARP!! ;D--KP ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 10, 2010, 05:01 PM
I think I have a name for the first fly......

The Exploding Chicken

You're hilarious Walleye1.  I'm no master by any means. Still learning with the rest of the fly tying world.

2 things I've learned;
It's very hard to eat yogurt with chopsticks
Any fly will catch a fish...no matter how ugly it is to you.

Keep having fun.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 10, 2010, 05:35 PM
Glad you guy's are having fun with this. W1 and I had a blast last night farting around. Our motto was "make whatever comes to our mind", Soon I will start being studious and more professional. More pics to come guys.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 10, 2010, 06:26 PM
I was thinking I'd do some pics of tying the 5 essential flies. That's if I can pick 5 essential flies :-\

Any suggestions will be appreciated and I'll try to do step by steps for whatever we decide are the 5. Maybe if Trapper ever gets through killing Canadian fish, he'll lend his expertise.

I'd pick;
Muddler Minnow
Mickey Finn
Bead Prince
Woolly Bugger
Foam Spider

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Sep 10, 2010, 06:36 PM
Not sure RG those are good choices.
Where I am located I would probably substitute a Dunn for the foam spider.
Or maybe a Coachman... Not sure, always amazed me that a fly like that would catch as many fish as it does.
Wow really tough to choose just five flies....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 10, 2010, 06:43 PM
No problem. I had a hard time trying to pick 5. I mean, how can you go fishing without Elk Hair caddis  or a dace or a hellgrammite ???

Uh Oh! I sound like those bass guys :P

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Sep 10, 2010, 07:16 PM
I never did get around to posting a pic of my best Hellgrammite.
Here you go FM, you see we all don't tie flies like RG and Trapper do. It is an art.
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb161/monthony/Picture085.jpg)
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb161/monthony/Picture086.jpg)
 
Yeah that's the best one I tied. They aren't easy to get that Big shield behind the head. Tried three methods.
I think the best is this one, just used a real large black thread and a lot of glue.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 10, 2010, 11:27 PM
I have absolutely no complaints on your tying capabilities 1fish. Your work looks fine to me.

RG...I would like you guys to start out with a list of fly tying basic essentials. Regarding basic gear needed for the patterns you suggested. Mookie ate everything that I left out that was Organic. All my tails are gone. I should follow him around with a little baggie, and retrieve my tails! Reminds me of a Cheech and Chong movie.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Sep 11, 2010, 06:47 AM
Your not old enough to remember that are you?? LMAO I sure do..... What kind of S@$T is this, Labrador maaannnn......It's Dave maaaaannn......I think the Wedding album was one of the funniest compilation of material anyone ever recorded......
OK, we should be able to put together a list for you.
Are you going to concentrate on salmon and trout or panfish/bass. I always wondered if you could catch Walleye on a fly....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 11, 2010, 12:05 PM
Your not old enough to remember that are you?? LMAO I sure do..... What kind of S@$T is this, Labrador maaannnn......It's Dave maaaaannn......I think the Wedding album was one of the funniest compilation of material anyone ever recorded......
OK, we should be able to put together a list for you.
Are you going to concentrate on salmon and trout or panfish/bass. I always wondered if you could catch Walleye on a fly....

Yes, I'm old enough to remember them movies. Actually "It tastes like mauiey wauiey to me" ;D
I don't plan on really concentrating on one species of fish. I'm thinking as the different seasons come up....them will be the fly's that I will focus on. Always gonna bring my spin rods as a back up also, for a while. ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 11, 2010, 02:26 PM
Glad you guy's are having fun with this. W1 and I had a blast last night farting around. Our motto was "make whatever comes to our mind", Soon I will start being studious and more professional. More pics to come guys.
FM, I have a beginner's fly tying book here with illustrations and precedures for you to use. I'll drop it off to you next week. Hope it helps a little!! Tightlines!!--KP ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 11, 2010, 02:29 PM
Your not old enough to remember that are you?? LMAO I sure do..... What kind of S@$T is this, Labrador maaannnn......It's Dave maaaaannn......I think the Wedding album was one of the funniest compilation of material anyone ever recorded......
OK, we should be able to put together a list for you.
Are you going to concentrate on salmon and trout or panfish/bass. I always wondered if you could catch Walleye on a fly....
DAVE'S NOT HERE MAN!!!! ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 11, 2010, 02:33 PM
DAVE'S NOT HERE MAN!!!! ;D--KP 8)
Your not old enough to remember that are you?? LMAO I sure do..... What kind of S@$T is this, Labrador maaannnn......It's Dave maaaaannn......I think the Wedding album was one of the funniest compilation of material anyone ever recorded......
OK, we should be able to put together a list for you.
Are you going to concentrate on salmon and trout or panfish/bass. I always wondered if you could catch Walleye on a fly....
I caught 2 walleyes once on the fly......Filet and release was doing a flyby in his boat one time and two waldos ended up in my net!!! :w00t:  Probably not what you were referring to!!!LOL!!  Where in the world is Trapper??? If anybody has seen or talked to the 'Ol Buzzard tell him to check in once in awhile so we know he's still vertical!!! ;D--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 11, 2010, 05:19 PM
The Rockies like my Brown Nose Dace ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fishing/brownnosedace-1.jpg)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Sep 12, 2010, 07:19 PM
Friend caught a nice laker yesterday on a tandem #10 Black nose dace.  He had a few more hits, just couldn't hook them. I have one last day to try for them, well maybe two....LOL  Thinking of tying a couple on something bigger. #3 with a two inch shank. Make the body about 4-5". One rainbow smelt and a Dace.
 
That's a great picture RG. Like those with the fly visible in the corner of the mouth. Nice work..
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 12, 2010, 10:07 PM
RG, that is a really bright colored Rockie. Does anyone know if they crossbreed with other species? The dukes I catch around here seem to be darker in color.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 13, 2010, 02:57 AM
Those rockies were well fed and the stream was up and clear. I'd say plenty of oxygen. They're residents as they're well past a down stream barrier.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 13, 2010, 06:07 PM
Here's a fun fly that is...as far as I know, my own recipe.

# 12 drop eye, light wire hook
Black rooster neck hackle
peacock herl
red duck feather fibers
flat black danville 210 denier thread
small chain bead eyes (keychain)

Bob's Beady Eyed Bluegill Buster  ;D
Lay down a thread base...a drop of super glue is good
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/bluegillkiller002.jpg)
Tie in a small bunch of duck feather fibers for a tail...I like red.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/bluegillkiller004.jpg)
Tie in 4 - 6 pieces of peacock herl
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/bluegillkiller010.jpg)
Tie in a piece of neck hackle
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/bluegillkiller011.jpg)
Tie in a pair of chain bead eyes...size to the hook.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/bluegillkiller012.jpg)
Wrap the peacock herl forward, secure behind the eyes. Pull over the eyes and secure in front of the eyes
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/bluegillkiller005.jpg)
Wind the hackle forward, Palmered, and secure behind the eyes
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/bluegillkiller006.jpg)
Bring the peacock herl back behind the eyes and secure
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/bluegillkiller007.jpg)
Bring the peacock herl forward again and tie off in front. Form a neat head and whip finish with a drop of cement.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/bluegillkiller008.jpg)
Finished fly
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/bluegillkiller009.jpg)

I absolutely gaurantee this to murder bluegills....or your money back ;D

Try other color patterns. Olive seems to be very effective in the spring.

Have fun,
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 13, 2010, 06:25 PM
wow that is something right there RG. i have seen some videos on the internet that do not even compare what you just showed. i am honered to see that. like i said i could use some nice salmon flys if you get bored ::) ::) nice flys MR. 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 13, 2010, 06:41 PM
Spectacular RG! :thumbup_smilie: Not ready for that one yet, nor do I have all the correct materials. Next time I'm in the Pulaski area, I plan on stopping by All Seasons Sports and picking up some supplies. Do you guys have a "basic essential" list to recommend.

Also, can you elaborate on the whip finish technique? W1, and I were talking about that, but he wasn't quite sure on how it is done.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 14, 2010, 01:59 AM
Don't be intimidated! That's a very easy fly to tie FM. It has the basic elements of a lot of different patterns including the woolly bugger, which should be in every fly fisher's box.

Here's a link to a demo for using the whip finisher. Tyers use a tool or just do it by hand. My fingers seem too darn big to do hand whip finishing on smaller hooks.
Whip Finishing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur8v85x9hZE&NR=1)
Youtube is a fantastic resource for instruction. Just search "how to tie a fly" and you'll get a bunch of great video instruction. Of course you may get some yahoo performing sado-masochism on a house fly, but....... :-\

Basic list eh?

That's a tough one FM. Again, I'll suggest you pick a particular fly you want to learn and buy materials for that fly. It's the approach you'll need to use until you accumulate a bunch of stuff and get some basic techniques down....which will be sooner than you might think. I think when Trapper gets back in town , we should pick a day and have some fun tying. That'll give me a chance to pick up some ideas from the old buzzard too ;D

I'll do a woolly bugger next.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: walleye1 on Sep 14, 2010, 06:40 AM
Good lesson RG! All help is greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 14, 2010, 04:01 PM
wow that is something right there RG. i have seen some videos on the internet that do not even compare what you just showed. i am honered to see that. like i said i could use some nice salmon flys if you get bored ::) ::) nice flys MR. 8)
Those salmon flies are easy to tie HT!!! #6 hook with a bit o' kitchen sponge WOUND up on it!!! SO EASY, EVEN A CAVEMAN CAN TIE THEM!!!! LOL!! Jr. and I just inherited a bunch of flies yesterday!!!! Man, Are they sweet!!!! ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 14, 2010, 05:00 PM
Those salmon flies are easy to tie HT!!! #6 hook with a bit o' kitchen sponge WOUND up on it!!! SO EASY, EVEN A CAVEMAN CAN TIE THEM!!!! LOL!! Jr. and I just inherited a bunch of flies yesterday!!!! Man, Are they sweet!!!! ;)--KP 8)
so easy a cave man can do it HA. well fm should be able to do that right ??? sorry walley1.  ;D ;D ;D tie me some flys boys and the uglier the better. i like seeing those mud sharks flying out of the water with that fly in the corner of their mouth or at least close to there  ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D :-* 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: BAZOOKAJOE on Sep 14, 2010, 05:06 PM
Nice tie~i bet that would snag some steelhead under a float too.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 15, 2010, 02:15 PM
There is NO snagging Steelhead!!!!!! ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Sep 16, 2010, 04:26 PM
There is NO snagging Steelhead!!!!!! ;D--KP 8)
Thats just wrong at least they sometimes bite the hook!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 16, 2010, 04:52 PM
just for the record i had a steel head swat my chunk of sluggo on monday with its tail to kill it before it ate it. ask adam2000 ??? it jumped right in his face  ::) ::) ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 16, 2010, 05:39 PM
That was a SNAKEHEAD FISH HT!!! You guys watch for them in that river!! Seriously, SNAGGER had one bite his hand one year while trying to line the thing!!! ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 17, 2010, 07:04 PM
I'm sorry, but my flies will NOT snag any fish ::)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 17, 2010, 07:40 PM
I'm sorry, but my flies will NOT snag any fish ::)

RG
snag  ??? we are sportsman up here there is no such thing as snagging up here.  we lift the rod in slow motion and wait for that suttle pull then YANK to set the hook and sometimes twice just to make sure that hook is buried.  ;D ;D ::) ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 17, 2010, 10:51 PM
snag  ??? we are sportsman up here there is no such thing as snagging up here.  we lift the rod in slow motion and wait for that suttle pull then YANK to set the hook and sometimes twice just to make sure that hook is buried.  ;D ;D ::) ::)

HT... this is the wrong thread to continue memories of "mud sharks, and Steelies" Straighten up and share some valubale info. regarding Fly fishing and tieing methods darn it.  :P
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Sep 18, 2010, 06:56 PM
As usual I didn't get my streamers tied. Had guys with their bows here most of the week.
Couple just to shoot the bull and have me move their rest a little for the broadheads.
Couple for serving, new peeps, general check up of their bow...
Going to try one last trip tomorrow on the boat, then fog it and put her away.
Bow season is here, bear open today. So fishing will get pushed back a bit. Until ice season!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 19, 2010, 01:26 AM
Well, I'm just getting started  ;D

Today is my personal "opening day" of perch season. I'm headed to my favorite perch lake, the weather looks to be cooperating and I'm anxious :unsure:

I even have some new perch fly patterns to try.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Sep 19, 2010, 06:41 AM
Go get'em RG. Looks like rain here. Maybe later today I'll get out....May just fog the motor and put it away.
This year has gone by so fast.... :o
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 19, 2010, 03:11 PM
What a great day! :thumbup_smilie:

25 perch, 30 big sunfish...my perch flies did their job :clapping:

All were in the 30 - 50 fow range. Looks like they're stoking up on shrimp.

Game on!
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 19, 2010, 03:35 PM
What a great day! :thumbup_smilie:

25 perch, 30 big sunfish...my perch flies did their job :clapping:

All were in the 30 - 50 fow range. Looks like they're stoking up on shrimp.

Game on!
RG
nice RG and we all know that those taste a lot better then these mud sharks we are chaseing up here for sure. i still have a freezer full of nice perch and last nights dinner was good!  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 19, 2010, 03:52 PM
I can catch carp anywhere ::)

I know you guys have a ton of fun hauling those big bruisers in. I fished the tribs for browns, salmon and steelhead for many years. I never liked crowds...and still don't.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 19, 2010, 06:21 PM
I can catch carp anywhere ::)

I know you guys have a ton of fun hauling those big bruisers in. I fished the tribs for browns, salmon and steelhead for many years. I never liked crowds...and still don't.

RG
yep same here do not like crowds at all believe me. we stayed a way from the people and are stay was short lived. my focus this year is with the center pin and trout when i am on either river end of story. actually i would rather be on the lake catching perch. i have an itch for a huge brown on the CP i have to take care of though ::) i qa long with CPG have a lot of years under our belt on that river. But now the crowds get to me so my stay this early in the season will be short until october.  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Sep 19, 2010, 06:40 PM
What a great day! :thumbup_smilie:

25 perch, 30 big sunfish...my perch flies did their job :clapping:

All were in the 30 - 50 fow range. Looks like they're stoking up on shrimp.

Game on!
RG
Awesome work man!
This may be a stupid question, but...How do you work them through the column? Do you drop shot them?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 20, 2010, 01:31 AM
Bottom depth was 30 - 50'. They were all within 4' of bottom around deep weed structure. Is fun catching those big sunnies in 50'. Light biters though.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Sep 20, 2010, 08:06 PM
Good job RG!! Holding off on putting the boat away another week. Maybe go run some streamers quick and shallow for fish moving up with the water cooling off.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 20, 2010, 11:04 PM
Hope ya answered slayers question through a PM?
 :-\Been working on some new fly's, but not gonna post many more pics, till I feel comfy!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 21, 2010, 02:05 AM
Actually, I think his question related to a misconception that the fish were scattered through the water column from 30 - 50 fow. To clarify, I use a perch rig consisting of a barrel swivel, 4-6' leader, 2 - Bob's super secret perch flies, and a sinker heavy enough to drift on bottom. The sinker type will vary from a crimped on bullet nose to a "slinky" to a "bass sinker" to pencil lead.......even the old coat hanger trick if there's too many weeds and a slow drift.

The weight is the key ;D.....and the flies ;)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 21, 2010, 02:00 PM
I don't remember ever catching a sunny in that deep of water. Pretty cool stuff, always thought they were more of a shallow water fish. Do they tend to be larger in the depths?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Sep 21, 2010, 05:20 PM
What a great day! :thumbup_smilie:

25 perch, 30 big sunfish...my perch flies did their job :clapping:

All were in the 30 - 50 fow range. Looks like they're stoking up on shrimp.

Game on!
RG
That's a good day of fishin' RG!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Sep 21, 2010, 05:59 PM
Thanks a bunch Rg!
They've got to be deadly 6" above a Hali through the ice!
There are scud flies right?  ???
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 21, 2010, 06:24 PM
These are the scuds I tie for the ice.
Crystal Flash Scuds (my own pattern) ;)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/crystal_scuds.jpg)

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Sep 21, 2010, 09:37 PM
I don't remember ever catching a sunny in that deep of water. Pretty cool stuff, always thought they were more of a shallow water fish. Do they tend to be larger in the depths?
We get them in Lake George in 60 + ft of water..................summer and winter !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 21, 2010, 11:54 PM
A couple new practice fly's I tied tonight, playing around with learning how to spread the "hairs" out with multiple colorations, and using less thread, and also utilizing a thread tieing technigue learned from U-tube. I forget the name of the tie though! :-\

(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/flys9-21-10002.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 22, 2010, 12:34 AM
Looking good FM. A hint for you, A good rule of thumb is to keep the length of the tail about equal to the gap of the hook.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 22, 2010, 01:16 AM
Thanks for the tip RG, makes sense when I consider the presentation of the offering, and making sure the fish takes the hook as well.
I've yet to try any of my fly's, as my fishing time has been spent on the Salmon river, and Shore fishing for walleys lately.
Last year, Walleye1 and I put alot of hours in my jon boat on Pleasent Lake (the lake I grew up on) by now. Which is perfect to fish with the fly rod on for a beginner. Not quite sure why we haven't got back there this summer? Sure was a ton of fun last year. Non stop action with the gills. seeds, crappie, perch and bass. Super easy to limit out daily. Shame on us. :-\
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Sep 22, 2010, 08:09 AM
Good job FM! Those look fishy to me!!
Good tip RG, I tend to forget that myself.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 22, 2010, 03:02 PM
Ok...oK...I'll share my super secret perch flies :o
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/secretperchflies001.jpg)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 22, 2010, 04:31 PM
Hey RG!!, You got my address.... Just send them to me...I'll pay the shipping!!!! ;D Nice flies Pal!!!!!--KP 8)

FM, Your flies are starting to look good Bud!! Keep it up!! :thumbup_smilie: When you make that trip back to your 'ol stomping grounds with the fly rod, call me and we'll make a day of it!!!! Jr. is looking over my shoulder just now and you better invite him too!! ;) good job!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 22, 2010, 04:59 PM
You see some of the mangled ones on the right....the more they beat them up, the better they seem to work. I'm working on a few trout patterns for Jr. We'll see if he'll share with the "Old Man" ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 22, 2010, 05:06 PM
The last batch are already his!!! :laugh: Thanks for taking the time to keep him on to something that he really loves!!!! We both share.... LIFE IS GOOD!!!! Now, we need to talk perch flies..... ::) That pattern doesn't really look all that complicated, might have to go to the desk and do some tying now!!! ;)

Tightlines!
KP ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 22, 2010, 05:06 PM
OK i am going to ask this question; WHERE THE HECK IS TRAPPER  ??? ??? ??? ??? god da* old Goose anyway  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 22, 2010, 05:11 PM
Well, perch aren't as smart as trout ::)

EZ
#6 Aberdeen
Mylar braid, core removed
I like the gold or silver bead head
red duck feather fibers for back

There's a bunch of possibilities.
 
I use a #6 wide gap without the bead for sunnies.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 22, 2010, 05:12 PM
MIA since 8/29/10 ???

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 22, 2010, 05:15 PM
A real mystery as to where the CRAZY 'Ol BUZZARD is.... But, Trapper is MIA, RG doesn't ask about Trapper, BUT, RG has an excellent selection of flies to share with us...... Even I recieved some TRAPPER BUMBLEBEE FLIES!! HMMMMMM!!! Now, I ask.... WHERE IS TRAPPER!!!!! ::)

KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 22, 2010, 05:17 PM
Well, perch aren't as smart as trout ::)

EZ
#6 Aberdeen
Mylar braid, core removed
I like the gold or silver bead head
red duck feather fibers for back

There's a bunch of possibilities.
 
I use a #6 wide gap without the bead for sunnies.

RG

I hit a couple of the materials right on the head... missed the red duck feathers though!!!

Thanks RG!!

KP :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 22, 2010, 05:18 PM
In a lot of ways, he's a lot like me, so I figure he'll turn up when he's ready.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: adam2000 on Sep 22, 2010, 05:21 PM
Kp ill get you some red duck feathers oct 23, lol, mallard dye job with blood
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 22, 2010, 05:22 PM
Your right RG!! He always finds his way back home!!!! He is a great person... might I add!! ;)--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 22, 2010, 05:24 PM
Kp ill get you some red duck feathers oct 23, lol, mallard dye job with blood
Somehow..... I think you were reading my mind ADAM!!!! LOL!!  Speaking of duck wings...... I gotta package to send out this week!!! RG, I'll get those out by weeks end!!!! Thanks for the reminder ADAM!!!! ;)--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: adam2000 on Sep 22, 2010, 05:25 PM
no problem, has jr hooked any fish yet this yr?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 22, 2010, 10:25 PM
Well, perch aren't as smart as trout ::)

EZ
#6 Aberdeen
Mylar braid, core removed
I like the gold or silver bead head
red duck feather fibers for back

There's a bunch of possibilities.
 
I use a #6 wide gap without the bead for sunnies.

RG



Not sure yet what Mylar braid is? And "core removed". Help me out with that, if ya woulf RG. Thanks for the great info. Great looking "perch fly's" by the way! ;)

Also, thanks for the compliments, 1fish, and KP. That is the stuff to keep my motivation factor alive ! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 23, 2010, 01:48 AM
Mylar braid;
Available in lifetime sized quantities  for next to nothing from any craft store, or in outrageously overpriced little packages from fly tying suppliers.
In bundles
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/mylarbraid001.jpg)
It's woven around a cotton cord core
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/mylarbraid002.jpg)
Core removed
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/mylarbraid003.jpg)
I'll do a tie for you and post some pics when I get a chance.

I may have to get the digital video thing figured out :-\
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 23, 2010, 04:12 PM
no problem, has jr hooked any fish yet this yr?
The Old Man hasn't even hooked a SR Fish yet this year.... NO, Jr. hasn't. We'll be going soon!!!! Might get together with you boys here soon!!! I've got some tension to release!!--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 23, 2010, 04:13 PM

Not sure yet what Mylar braid is? And "core removed". Help me out with that, if ya woulf RG. Thanks for the great info. Great looking "perch fly's" by the way! ;)

Also, thanks for the compliments, 1fish, and KP. That is the stuff to keep my motivation factor alive ! ;D
Anytime Pal!!! ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 23, 2010, 06:14 PM
We still need to have that in person lesson FM. It'll make things so much easier for you once you see a few basic techniques in use.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 23, 2010, 11:49 PM
We still need to have that in person lesson FM. It'll make things so much easier for you once you see a few basic techniques in use.
RG


I hear ya RG, I've been trying to put together in my head a feasible way to make a connection easy, and without anyone going out of there way. ;) You have been spectacular recently, showing some great ties and techniques. :bowdown:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 24, 2010, 01:47 AM
Nothing spectacular, just some things you need to know to get started. I've been covering the Western part of the state lately, but I'm sure I'll get up your way eventually. If not I'll just take a ride some Saturday when the weather stinks for fishing. Until then, I think I'm gonna get a digital video camera. I've been wanting one,,,good excuse ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Sep 24, 2010, 08:06 AM
Nothing spectacular, just some things you need to know to get started. I've been covering the Western part of the state lately, but I'm sure I'll get up your way eventually. If not I'll just take a ride some Saturday when the weather stinks for fishing. Until then, I think I'm gonna get a digital video camera. I've been wanting one,,,good excuse ;D

RG
Why not organize a fall "Jig/fly-aholics" meeting somewhere in CNY or at the Bayside  ???
  I can guarantee you that HT won't show ! ::) ::) ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 24, 2010, 08:25 AM
Why not organize a fall "Jig/fly-aholics" meeting somewhere in CNY or at the Bayside  ???
  I can guarantee you that HT won't show ! ::) ::) ;D
Hey Gamma hows the fishing. And i dont mean the X- Box game  :-* :-* :-* :-* ::) ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Sep 24, 2010, 09:52 AM
Hey Gamma hows the fishing. And i dont mean the X- Box game  :-* :-* :-* :-* ::) ;D
It's been great Zippy !   At least the fish that I've caught recently can cook me dinner, bake pies and carry on a conversation.....................unlike those finned, half rotted hunks of flesh that you're catching  :P :P :cookoo: :cookoo: :sick: :wacko: ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 24, 2010, 10:14 AM
It's been great Zippy !   At least the fish that I've caught recently can cook me dinner, bake pies and carry on a conversation.....................unlike those finned, half rotted hunks of flesh that you're catching  :P :P :cookoo: :cookoo: :sick: :wacko: ;D ;D
What  ??? ??? you never had a conversation with a Mud shark  ??? Holy crap you don't know what your missing. Me and SC call them in like ducks  ::) ::) There fins aren't falling off yet that will be next month. then we will have try to hook them in the mouth  ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 24, 2010, 10:18 AM
Hey Gramps you in box is full  ??? ??? i didnt know you had that many people that wanted to talk to you  ??? :w00t: :w00t: :rotflol: :rotflol: :afro: ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Sep 24, 2010, 10:50 AM
Hey Gramps you in box is full  ??? ??? i didnt know you had that many people that wanted to talk to you  ??? :w00t: :w00t: :rotflol: :rotflol: :afro: ;D
It ain't easy being me ! ;D ;D

  I cleared out all of the PM's you sent me  :whistling: :whistling:   Now you can send more ! ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 24, 2010, 03:22 PM
You two characters at it again????  :nono: :nono:--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 24, 2010, 03:57 PM
Hilarious, they should live together! I'd love to be a fly on the wall of that house
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 24, 2010, 04:03 PM
Hilarious, they should live together! I'd love to be a fly on the wall of that house
Why torture yourself ???

A get together is a good idea, but I was aiming at helping FM get some good basic instruction.....can't do that and Heineken too :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 24, 2010, 04:08 PM
let me know RG when you plan to take a ride up this way. i will try to be there but hunting season is here  :-\
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 24, 2010, 04:50 PM
He's making excuses and I haven't even suggested a date....you're right "T"  :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: esox v on Sep 24, 2010, 05:39 PM
He's making excuses and I haven't even suggested a date....you're right "T"  :-\

RG
That's funny !! I was thinking exactly the same thing !! Always leaving the door open for a way out.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 24, 2010, 08:04 PM
let me know RG when you plan to take a ride up this way. i will try to be there but hunting season is here  :-\
You bringing your date with ya HT???? GAMMA !!!!  ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 24, 2010, 08:07 PM
Hilarious, they should live together! I'd love to be a fly on the wall of that house
That would be funny as all get out FM, You can fly down on HT's head and watch GAMMA swat at you and then you can fly down on GAMMA'S Head and watch HT swat at you......Back and forth all night long!!!!!! Typical BEAVIS AND BUTTHEAD!!!! LMAO!!! :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Sep 24, 2010, 08:56 PM
He's making excuses and I haven't even suggested a date....you're right "T"  :-\

RG
Yeah, he's pretty predictable  ::) ::) ::) ;D

A get together is a good idea, but I was aiming at helping FM get some good basic instruction.....can't do that and Heineken too :-\

RG
FM can get all the "Basic" instruction he needs from me  ;D ;D ;D   You can teach him all the pretty fluffy stuff ! ;D
  By the way.................You're much more imressive and educational "After" you've been into the Heineken's ! ;D ;D ;D
I know from experience ! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 24, 2010, 09:35 PM
Testy there H', I'll be at the S/R after work tomorrow, are you going up anytime this weekend?
RG, I've yet to tie a fly minus the cocktail. That should be an experience. :o
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 24, 2010, 09:39 PM
Testy there H', I'll be at the S/R after work tomorrow, are you going up anytime this weekend?
RG, I've yet to tie a fly minus the cocktail. That should be an experience. :o
i will be up at 0-300 and leaving shortly after that. i have a grunt i have to meet end of story at 0-530 ??? ???
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Sep 24, 2010, 10:14 PM
what ever ther boy,s and Gamma ??? you guys suck end of story. i will be back in the who knows what tomorrow  ??? ??? ??? ??? :afro: i do not have time to make plans that anyone can count on. it is fall  ??? you can call eat the corn out of my shi* if you want and leave a message  :-* :-* :-*
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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 25, 2010, 02:20 AM
:sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1: :sleep1:
if you are lucky i might just drop off one of those yummy fish for you Gamma  ;) :sick: :sick: :evil: :afro:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Simplecarppieguy on Sep 25, 2010, 05:52 AM
I see nothing has changed yet! the love between ht and gamma...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Sep 25, 2010, 09:11 AM
if you are lucky i might just drop off one of those yummy fish for you Gamma  ;) :sick: :sick: :evil: :afro:
Hey Squid !   A lot has changed.  The little guy now knows that I mean no harm when I'm addressing him here ! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :-* :-* ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 25, 2010, 10:20 AM
I see nothing has changed yet! the love between ht and gamma...
Hey Frankie, I found HT and GAMMA's song bro!!!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWdZEumNRmI&ob=av2n (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWdZEumNRmI&ob=av2n)LMAO!!!!! Hey HT!!!! I don't like corn much Buddy!!! :sick: I did order your duck call last night though!!! ;) Who sucks now?????????--KP  :afro:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 25, 2010, 11:12 AM
Hijacked again, although I got some great laughs. ;D I can't believe I just listened to that air supply song. ???
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 25, 2010, 11:41 AM
ok  i take  a  little  vacation  and  my   boys  HT  and  gamma  are  still  at it????  oh  i  would  have  never  dreamed....  fish  are  everywhere  boys 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 25, 2010, 12:03 PM
Good to see your back You "ol Buzzard!!!! Hope you left some fish in the streams!!! welcome back!!--KP 8) and Yes.... HT and GAMMA are still fighting!!!! LOL!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 25, 2010, 12:05 PM
RG, I got your PM sir!!!! Thank You!!--KP :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 25, 2010, 12:45 PM
We were ready to send out the mounties Trapper. And, you're right...."fish are everywhere". Welcome back.

My pleasure KP.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Sep 25, 2010, 05:30 PM
Good to see you Trap, well your words anyways...
Took the day and went on the lake for the last trip. Boats getting covered next week, motor drained, and fogged.
But what a glorious day. The fish were all small but plentiful. I did find the bigger fish and hooked one for a few cranks then off. Didn't matter though, the morning cruising on a lake of glass, surrounded by mountains full of color.
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb161/monthony/Picture092.jpg)
She may not be fast, but when the lake is like this it's heaven to glide along and make some big sweeping turns.
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb161/monthony/Picture093.jpg)
Then to the task at hand, caught 6 of these in about an hour. While I was trying to get this one to pose and the camera set up, the other pole went down. First double of the year. What a cluster by yourself...
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb161/monthony/Picture095.jpg)
Guess theres more to fishing here than catching fish!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 25, 2010, 06:26 PM
Yes..there is more to fishing than catching fish.

That's why I spent most of today repairing my transducer mounting bracket., re-spooling reels, chasing down bait, eliminating my household "to do list" and tying perch flies so I can actually chase perch tomorrow morning. :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Sep 25, 2010, 06:38 PM
Good luck RG!! You'll find them I'm sure. I just sat in the boat, listening to the radio, looking at the beauty that surrounded me. Aside from all the bureaucratic bullcrap that goes along with living here in the Adirondacks, it is a gorgeous place to be.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 25, 2010, 06:45 PM
well sometimes  we  have  to endure  some  umpleasant  aspects  of life  before we  can  simple  enjoyfishing ,then again i say the heck with it and  go for  a month  ;D  but  i  think  i must  be  the  luckest man  alive  ...i  have  great friends  (  some  that i have  met here)  i have  wonderful  kids  and  grandkids  (with a  lil  granddaughter on the  way  ;D)  and  i have  a  awesome  women  that  supports  me ....  life is good .....enjoy it all  guys 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 25, 2010, 07:14 PM
you know we all have a good life i guess if you look back. well thanks KP for the GAY song buddy ??? ??? it was for sure a song from the past ??? we all have things that bring us back to our youth. i talked to trapper tonight and all i can say it was good to hear from the old man first hand end of story. trapper you are a legend for sure my Friend end of story 8) you have to check in from time to make sure the young buzzards are in check. we have missed you for sure ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 25, 2010, 07:27 PM
ht  i trusted  you  guys  to  figure  out  for  yourselves   that  salmon  don't hit  once  they  come  up in  the  river  :rotflol: and  that  trout beads  under a  float  is   a  great  way  to  lift  em ....  was  great hearing  HT  but  he  knew   kinda  where  i was   and  the  wife  said  the  corn  was great!!!!!  little  thing i want to pass on gander  mtn  has all  the  mustad   flietying hooks  on super  sale!  half  off the  orange  sticker  i  bought  800  hooks  16 and  18  dry  and  nymph  hooks  at  3.49  a 100 !!!!  thats  right  3.49  a  hundred! also loaded  up on  frog hair  strike  indicators  ....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 25, 2010, 07:39 PM
ht  i trusted  you  guys  to  figure  out  for  yourselves   that  salmon  don't hit  once  they  come  up in  the  river  :rotflol: and  that  trout beads  under a  float  is   a  great  way  to  lift  em ....  was  great hearing  HT  but  he  knew   kinda  where  i was   and  the  wife  said  the  corn  was great!!!!!  little  thing i want to pass on gander  mtn  has all  the  mustad   flietying hooks  on super  sale!  half  off the  orange  sticker  i  bought  800  hooks  16 and  18  dry  and  nymph  hooks  at  3.49  a 100 !!!!  thats  right  3.49  a  hundred! also loaded  up on  frog hair  strike  indicators  ....
yep it sounds like i do not need any hooks soon ::) ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 26, 2010, 04:24 PM
I picked up some materials at Gander, Rochester....they don't have Mustad fly hooks. Just $6 a pack Umpiqua hooks. I guess I'll have to send the Doc a list of stuff he needs to get in....to his credit, he did ask if there were items that needed to be on the shelf.

Problem is, how does a fly tier make a list of materials...it's impossible :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 26, 2010, 05:43 PM
i have  carefully  though  about a answer  to  rg's question  so  he  is my list

my  list  for  flyshop

#1   everything

#2  then  some


follow  this  and  you  won't have  any  problems

life  is  good ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 26, 2010, 06:13 PM
I started carrying a knife and a plastic bag so I could collect the road kill squirrel tails I've been running past for the last couple of weeks...That's just wrong ::)

But I collected them just the same  ;D

I can't wait till the town cop wants to know what I'm doing at 4am fooling with road kill on a public thoroughfare.

Good thing they're country roads. :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 26, 2010, 06:28 PM
I started carrying a knife and a plastic bag so I could collect the road kill squirrel tails I've been running past for the last couple of weeks...That's just wrong ::)

But I collected them just the same  ;D

I can't wait till the town cop wants to know what I'm doing at 4am fooling with road kill on a public thoroughfare.

Good thing they're country roads. :-\

RG
Nothing wrong with that RG. those animals are just going to rot in the sun anyway. back in the day when racoons were worth some bucks we all would pick up the road kills and skin them. Hell i bet you old trapper still does.  8) 8) free material for 8) flys end of story.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 27, 2010, 06:37 PM
i  have  collected fox  coon muskrats  beaver  deer  turkey feathers  ......  oh  and  remeber  those  spam  sandwiches  i shared  with  ya  ht???????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 27, 2010, 10:38 PM
Had a few minutes to play around again with the vice, gotta get a bigger variety of materials to try different things, still getting accustomed to clean wraps etc.
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/flyesagain002.jpg)

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 28, 2010, 02:17 AM
i  have  collected fox  coon muskrats  beaver  deer  turkey feathers  ......  oh  and  remeber  those  spam  sandwiches  i shared  with  ya  ht???????
:sick: :sick: ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 28, 2010, 02:20 AM
Pick a pattern to tie. Start with something universal like a Hair's Ear Nymph, or a Bead Prince Nymph, or a Woolly Bugger. Get the materials you need to tie that pattern and get it down. That's how you're going to figure out what to do with thread, fur, feathers and linear materials like chenille, wire and tinsel.

If you want help with a pattern, I'll do some pics for you. I'm working on the digital video thing ;)

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 28, 2010, 11:03 AM
Yeah, I gotta start to learn patterns, these are just made up as I go along. Does help get the dexterity down though. If ya got time to post some of the more basic patterns, heck yes, I'd love to see them.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Sep 28, 2010, 11:32 AM
Nice job FM!! They look like nice caterpillar patterns. Bet a green and black ringed one would work good this time of year.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Sep 28, 2010, 04:34 PM
Had a few minutes to play around again with the vice, gotta get a bigger variety of materials to try different things, still getting accustomed to clean wraps etc.
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/flyesagain002.jpg)


Looking Good FM!!!!! :D 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 28, 2010, 05:53 PM
I'll work something up tomorrow...aftrenoon.
I'm fishing in the AM ;D
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 29, 2010, 12:52 AM
Thanks a ton KP SR. for stopping by the shop and dropping off that fly tying book for beginners. ("Fly Tying made clear and simple") Wriien by Skip Morris.

After I closed the shop, I went to a neighbors house to install a new outdoor water spicket and ball type shut off valve, that project turned into some minor masonry work, which will take a couple days to dry until we can finish the rest of the project.

When I got home, I decided to start doing a bit of reading, and shortly after, try my version of the wooly bugger. Mind ya's that this fly is lacking most of the proper items, including the proper hook, hackle, and maribou plume, I made due with what is available to me at this time, not real pretty, but I'm not too proud to share! Have a good chuckle friends! This one is on me.

(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/firstwoolybugger002.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 29, 2010, 03:36 AM
years and years  ago  i flyfished  with a older man , who's still around  ...and i  tied  some adam  dry flys  ...they were perfect  lance!!!!  but  there was a heavy  hatch  that morning  and the  fish past  my perfect  dry  flys  up  for  the  naturals  ...the old  fella  said trapp  let me see  your fly  ...and  he beat  the hell out of it  on a rock ....  then said  try it ......  waaaaaammmmm  !!!!!!   i learned  sometimes  not so perfect  is  perfect!!!!! nice  fly  buddy ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: griz104 on Sep 29, 2010, 01:10 PM
The only thing i would do different on that Fly is i would not tie down the bend so far.. Try and stop it a bit further up so it is kinda a straight line.. Only reason i say this is because the tail will give you problems with hook set.. Especially when it's marabou..Hope it's all right i threw my 2 cents in..
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 29, 2010, 01:34 PM
Anytime Lance!! Glad to be of some help to you!! I'm not that great at tying myself, but, Like Trap said... and I quote," sometimes not so perfect.... is perfect."!! ;) Keep at it, and finesse it everytime you tie a fly and you'll get it!! By the way, that fly looks great!! ;) keep up the good work!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 29, 2010, 04:04 PM
I'll give you one of those "Many Years Ago" stories too. My first attempts at tying woolly buggers produced something similar to a brown rooster on a stick. I took one of those flies to Canandaigua outlet. (At the time I didn't realize that a fly fisher needs 24 of every fly known to modern man to catch a single fish, :-\)

Anyway I tossed it into a pool where it hit the water with the subtlety of a 12" cinder block. To my joy and dismay, a huge smallmouth inhaled it and broke the surface by 3' or so. Having no idea what to do with that monster...on a flyrod...added to the confusion.

Long story short, I landed that fish and proudly released it.

My point, you may ask? Go fishing with your flies!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 29, 2010, 05:53 PM
Here you Go FM.
My "Conehead Woolly Bugger"
Materials;
Olive Marabou
Olive hen Neck Hackle
Olive Chenille
Olive, flat 210 denier thread
1/64oz plated conehead
#6 straight shank hook (I use an Aberdeen)
Whip Finisher
Smooth Jaw Pliers (to flatten the barb)
Super glue
Scissors
Bodkin

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/woollybuggertie002.jpg)

Flatten the hook barb and slide on the  cone head. Start the tread about 1/4" back from the eye and build a small head behind the cone. Carry the thread to the start of the hook bend. A drop of super glue on the thread is good at this point.
Tie in a Marabou feather tip on top of the hook and wrap evenly to behind the cone head.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/woollybuggertie003.jpg)
Trim off the excess marabou and carry the thread to the bend of the hook again. Tie in the tip of the olive hackle and the olive chenille. Wrap the thread to just behind the cone head.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/woollybuggertie004.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/woollybuggertie005.jpg)
Wrap the chenille forward and tie off
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/woollybuggertie006.jpg)
Wrap the hackle forward, tie off and whip finish behind the cone head.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/woollybuggertie007.jpg)
Push the cone head back to the chenille
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/woollybuggertie008.jpg)
Start the thread in front of the cone head and wrap a neat tapered head. Whip finish and apply a drop of glue or head cement.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/woollybuggertie009.jpg)

That's all there is to it :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: griz104 on Sep 30, 2010, 06:02 AM
here is another great site with a ton of tutorials on it.. Very easy to tie following these directions...

http://flyguysoutfitting.com/flytutorials.html
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 30, 2010, 06:13 AM
Here you Go FM.
My "Conehead Woolly Bugger"
Materials;
Olive Marabou
Olive hen Neck Hackle
Olive Chenille
Olive, flat 210 denier thread
1/64oz plated conehead
#6 straight shank hook (I use an Aberdeen)
Whip Finisher
Smooth Jaw Pliers (to flatten the barb)
Super glue
Scissors
Bodkin

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/woollybuggertie002.jpg)

Flatten the hook barb and slide on the  cone head. Start the tread about 1/4" back from the eye and build a small head behind the cone. Carry the thread to the start of the hook bend. A drop of super glue on the thread is good at this point.
Tie in a Marabou feather tip on top of the hook and wrap evenly to behind the cone head.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/woollybuggertie003.jpg)
Trim off the excess marabou and carry the thread to the bend of the hook again. Tie in the tip of the olive hackle and the olive chenille. Wrap the thread to just behind the cone head.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/woollybuggertie004.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/woollybuggertie005.jpg)
Wrap the chenille forward and tie off
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/woollybuggertie006.jpg)
Wrap the hackle forward, tie off and whip finish behind the cone head.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/woollybuggertie007.jpg)
Push the cone head back to the chenille
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/woollybuggertie008.jpg)
Start the thread in front of the cone head and wrap a neat tapered head. Whip finish and apply a drop of glue or head cement.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/woollybuggertie009.jpg)

That's all there is to it :-\

RG
RG that is quite impressive. you should be a teacher.  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Sep 30, 2010, 06:33 AM
The only thing i would do different on that Fly is i would not tie down the bend so far.. Try and stop it a bit further up so it is kinda a straight line.. Only reason i say this is because the tail will give you problems with hook set.. Especially when it's marabou..Hope it's all right i threw my 2 cents in..
Heck yeah it's all right to throw your .02 in!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 30, 2010, 07:10 AM
rg  suggestion   for  steelies  use  colored  cones   ;D  or my  trick  go to joannes  and  get  some  bright colored  fabric  paint  and  a  drop  of pink,green or  blue  on  the  head  ;D......nice  fly
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 30, 2010, 10:19 AM
That marabou makes all the difference in the world in the outcome. Spectacular work RG, keep the advise coming guys, all is appreciated.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 30, 2010, 04:51 PM
Good Idea Trapper!
The fun thing about Woolly Buggers is that you can tie them in endless variations. I never leave for the stream without them.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 30, 2010, 04:53 PM
rg works  great  on  stone  flys  too  put the  dot of paint  on the wing case ......not sure if it makes a differance  but it sure looks  trick
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 30, 2010, 05:23 PM
Put some pics up of your stone fly's if ya would guys. I'm interested in seeing your versions also....Thanks
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 30, 2010, 07:31 PM
i'll do better lance  how  about i stop  out tomorrow   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 30, 2010, 11:56 PM
i'll do better lance  how  about i stop  out tomorrow   ;D

I'll be in the shop tomorrow Trap, gonna try to sneak out midday and hook up with KP, for some river action if the water flows make it worth while. Stop in for a hot cup of Joe Mr. You are always welcome, If ya wan't we could venture towards the river together...my truck, and my treat!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 02, 2010, 04:59 PM
lance  sorry  ended  up  fishing  near  oswego  ....  now  were  tying  glo bugs  and  super duper  stone  flies  maybe  a  few   egg  sucking leaches  to boot  ....fish on !!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Oct 02, 2010, 06:48 PM
This is the wired stone.
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj204/wiredstone/P4040015.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 02, 2010, 07:23 PM
wired  interesting  but  why  tie  it  backwards?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Oct 02, 2010, 07:27 PM
I found it gave me more hook ups. :thumbup_smilie: I have caught brook trout to steelhead on that fly.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 02, 2010, 07:32 PM
it  looks  really  cool!   copper  wire ?????  wonder  if  you  could  use  lead  wire  and  powder  paint it ?? ;D great  fly thanks  now  i  gotta  play ;D what  did  you  use  for the  wing  case  looks  like  epoxy  yet a  flash back
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 03, 2010, 02:25 AM
I worked the picture from Wiredstone (apt name by the way ;D) so you could see it a bit better.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/stonefly.jpg)

Nice pattern. Simple and efficient.

Looks like Thin Skin Trap.

I really like the concept of tying in reverse. I believe that most fish attack their prey from the head. I very often hook minnows and crabs by the  tail for better results.

 Wiredstone. Looks like you use a Danvise?
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 03, 2010, 03:40 AM
that is  a  cool pattern !!!!  i love  seeing other  peoples  work
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Oct 03, 2010, 06:34 AM
hook :#12 daiichi 1710 or 1730
body:black copper wire
thorax:henry forks hackle
casing:copper sparkle braid
tail: goose biots
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 03, 2010, 01:35 PM
Here's my "Brown Stone"
#12 White River curved nymph hook
Tungsten bead sized to hook
.030 round lead
140 denier Ultra Thread, tan
Rust goose biots
rust  super fine dubbing (body)
Dark Grey life cycle dubbing (thorax and collar)
Pheasant Wing feather (legs
Black Swiss Straw (case)
Crystal Flash (flashback)
Fine gold wire (rib)

Wrap lead, push to back of bead and tie in wrapping a tapered section at the back of the lead
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/BobsBrownStone003.jpg)
Dub a small ball at the bend of the hook, tie in biots, tie in gold wire for rib, dub body forward to about 2/3
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/BobsBrownStone005.jpg)
Tie in several strands of crystal flash and black swiss straw
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/BobsBrownStone007.jpg)
Prep a feather as shown and tie in from the tip shiny side down (I'm using pheasant...Thanks KP ;D)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/BobsBrownStone008.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/BobsBrownStone009.jpg)
Dub a loose thorax
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/BobsBrownStone010.jpg)
pull the feather then swiss straw then crystal flash forward and tie in
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/BobsBrownStone011.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/BobsBrownStone012.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/BobsBrownStone013.jpg)
Dub a small collar to cover the wraps, whip finish.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/BobsBrownStone014.jpg)

Bob's Brown Stone ;D
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 03, 2010, 01:40 PM
you  got  it   ;D  thats  a  salmon  river  steelhead  slayer  if  i  ever  seen  one
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 03, 2010, 01:43 PM
Fun stuff eh? There's a couple little flows down my way that I'm going to give a try when I get home. I have to do a job in Jamestown for a couple of days. Wednesday is looking good. Hope my knee feels better.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 03, 2010, 02:50 PM
My first try at a reverse black pattern...that wasn't easy :-\
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/reversebalckstone.jpg)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Oct 03, 2010, 02:56 PM
Nice flies. I forgot to tell you they take time to tie. ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 03, 2010, 03:15 PM
Made me use the rotary. I usually just go back to the stationary habits. But it was good practice.  Thanks for the idea.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Oct 03, 2010, 03:23 PM
Talk about a tuff reverse pattern check out what Imade today. OUCH ! :o
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj204/wiredstone/20101002_02_01.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 03, 2010, 03:24 PM
Nice Job wiredstone!!--KP ;)

You too, RG!!!! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Oct 03, 2010, 03:28 PM
Heading for cod in N.H. next weekend.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 03, 2010, 03:29 PM
Good luck and Have Fun!!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 03, 2010, 03:46 PM
Thanks for the materials KP.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Oct 03, 2010, 04:00 PM
So it looks like I'll have more time to fly fish next year.
Listed the boat for sale today. Shouldn't have bought it to begin with.
On C/L if anyone is interested.
 
Nice stone pattern RG.
I did all of my trolling spoons this spring Wiredstone. Can be lots of fun.
Good job!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 03, 2010, 04:46 PM
wired  those  a  diamond  jig?....rg  nice  buddy  lookin good  fish  i  got a  extra  kayak fer ya  ....  lets  fish a  nice evening  rise  ......  did  i  ever mention my feelings about trolling?????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 03, 2010, 04:49 PM
Thanks for the materials KP.

RG
;)--KP :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Oct 03, 2010, 05:22 PM
wired  those  a  diamond  jig?....rg  nice  buddy  lookin good  fish  i  got a  extra  kayak fer ya  ....  lets  fish a  nice evening  rise  ......  did  i  ever mention my feelings about trolling?????
14 oz cod jig. Jigging in 300' on the drift. I would take you up on the kyack some time. We have great caddis hatches down here. I was looking at my creek today and it is looking good.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 03, 2010, 06:12 PM
never  chased cod  but i love  black fish
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Oct 04, 2010, 11:56 AM
Sounds good Trap!! Yes I do recall you saying you loved to troll.... ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Oct 05, 2010, 12:12 AM
wired  interesting  but  why  tie  it  backwards?

Just got back online after a couple day Hiatus, So I'll be catching up slowly.
Great to have ya onboard, and sharing great info. with us wiredstone! Cool looking fly, and great thought with the backwords tie method!

Now...If anyone were to ask the question about that fly being tied backwords..... Trap, would be the last one for me to consider! :w00t: :rotflol: Sorry Trap, but I had to do it, and I know you don't take my picking personal!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 05, 2010, 03:40 AM
i only take gammas picking  to heart!!!!  :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 05, 2010, 04:26 AM
Gamma.....pick..... ???

I can't imagine.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 05, 2010, 04:43 AM
it's  true  rg  i was  personally  shocked  myself!!!!  man  wass  sick  couldn't breath and  still  talking poop .... i have  come to the  conclusion  gamma  likes  to  be  a  pain in the butt! we  did agree the  news lady  looked  funny yet  was  stranglly  attractive  other then that  he  just  bragged  about  driving a  nerd  car  and something about  opertunist .....if  i had listened  i could  report it better ..... the  good  news  is  gamma  at  least  got  his jig painting  station set up  and  although tony  is  a  goof ....he  really  does  do some  nice jigs!  and well worth looking into .....when he  grows  up i'll take  him  flyfishing and let him catch  fish like a  man...that  should  get the ball rollin.... ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 05, 2010, 07:00 AM
it's  true  rg  i was  personally  shocked  myself!!!!  man  wass  sick  couldn't breath and  still  talking poop .... i have  come to the  conclusion  gamma  likes  to  be  a  pain in the butt! we  did agree the  news lady  looked  funny yet  was  stranglly  attractive  other then that  he  just  bragged  about  driving a  nerd  car  and something about  opertunist .....if  i had listened  i could  report it better ..... the  good  news  is  gamma  at  least  got  his jig painting  station set up  and  although tony  is  a  goof ....he  really  does  do some  nice jigs!  and well worth looking into .....when he  grows  up i'll take  him  flyfishing and let him catch  fish like a  man...that  should  get the ball rollin.... ;D
Great way to start any day......reading all of Trap's philosophical B.S. :laugh: You crack me up You crazy 'Ol Buzzard!!!! Have a great day everyone!!......Even you GAMMA!!!! ;D--KP 8) Gotta go to work, Later!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Oct 05, 2010, 09:09 AM
it's  true  rg  i was  personally  shocked  myself!!!!  man  wass  sick  couldn't breath and  still  talking poop .... i have  come to the  conclusion  gamma  likes  to  be  a  pain in the butt! we  did agree the  news lady  looked  funny yet  was  stranglly  attractive  other then that  he  just  bragged  about  driving a  nerd  car  and something about  opertunist .....if  i had listened  i could  report it better ..... the  good  news  is  gamma  at  least  got  his jig painting  station set up  and  although tony  is  a  goof ....he  really  does  do some  nice jigs!  and well worth looking into .....when he  grows  up i'll take  him  flyfishing and let him catch  fish like a  man...that  should  get the ball rollin.... ;D
You should have stood clear of those carbuerator cleaner fumes yesterday !    You're brain cell can't take that kind of beating anymore ! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 05, 2010, 06:06 PM
TODAY  WAS  GREAT  HAD  A LOT OF  FUN TOSSING GLO  BUGS  IN  FRONT  OF  SALMON   AND  GOT A  GAINT  MALE  COHO TO  BOOT 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 06, 2010, 12:23 AM
He makes jigs ???

Hmmmm......I never knew that :whistling:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Oct 06, 2010, 02:12 AM
He makes jigs ???

Hmmmm......I never knew that :whistling:

RG
You should be a stock holder  :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 06, 2010, 04:04 AM
but he  doesn't  tie  flies! he  just draws them ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 06, 2010, 06:44 AM
I figured he just pulled the wings off flies.

Come to think of it...I may have a couple of jigs he made.......just a couple ::)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 06, 2010, 06:50 AM
'Ol GAMMA draws flies alright...... Just like PIGPEN from the PEANUTS!!!!!! :w00t: :w00t: Good Morning you 'Ol Farts!!! RG, aren't you supposed to be fishing today??? It is Wednesday!!!!    GO YANKEES!!!!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 06, 2010, 09:10 AM
he  has  a  cool  soccer  mom  mini  van .....   :rotflol: :rotflol:  i'll  catch  him  a  few  walleyes  what the  heck  =))   come  to think of  it a  fish  fry  somewhere  would  be   fun
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 06, 2010, 10:52 AM
Funny thing is.... I've gotta soccer mom magnet on my wives suv that has a new home now!!!! ;D Thanks for the idea Trap!!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 06, 2010, 11:54 AM
I'm recovering from a 2 day job in Jamestown. Got back last night around 12:30 after a 13 hour day and 3 1/2 hrs of driving. I'm kinda wrung out today.

I'm getting too old for that crap.

So..I'm making some soup, fixing the transducer mount on by boat that I destroyed last week on a dead head in the canal......and playing with stone flies and fabric paint. Trap, I found neon fabric paint pens at Wally World. Nice fine control.

Funny, I don't even feel out of place perusing the craft aisles any more. :P

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Oct 06, 2010, 12:00 PM
I'm recovering from a 2 day job in Jamestown. Got back last night around 12:30 after a 13 hour day and 3 1/2 hrs of driving. I'm kinda wrung out today.

I'm getting too old for that crap.

So..I'm making some soup, fixing the transducer mount on by boat that I destroyed last week on a dead head in the canal......and playing with stone flies and fabric paint. Trap, I found neon fabric paint pens at Wally World. Nice fine control.

Funny, I don't even feel out of place perusing the craft aisles any more. :P

RG
Just don't stroll through with a limp wrist  :whistling: :whistling: :rotflol: ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 06, 2010, 01:26 PM
That was bad GAMMA!!! :P I see your starting to feel better now!!! RG, you shouldn't have to take that abuse. That should cost 'ol GAMMA at least another box full of jigs!!!! PM me when you get them, I'll need a few of those as well!! ;) ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 06, 2010, 01:38 PM
gamma  gamma  gamma  .......  you really  can't  help  yourself  can ya  ....  ;D....hope  ya  are feeling better
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 06, 2010, 02:20 PM
Well, I don't have a limp wrist......Not that there's anything wrong with THAT!

rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 06, 2010, 02:29 PM
gamma seems  to know  alot  about  limp
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 06, 2010, 02:32 PM
Trap, you are reffering to his fishing line aren't you???? :w00t:--KP GAMMA, you can just send all of us a nice box of jigs!! Thank You!! :P
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 06, 2010, 02:38 PM
Where is GAMMA??--KP :P
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 06, 2010, 03:00 PM
Don Giovanni, if I may say so, your lizard looks limp.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/dongiovanni.jpg)

Yeah, well, when you get to be my age.... Oh! My lizard! Oh yeah!

Even kinda looks like Gamma ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 06, 2010, 03:22 PM
 :rotflol: :rotflol: :w00t: :w00t: :rotflol: :rotflol: Good find RG!!!!--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 06, 2010, 06:11 PM
I can't hear the word limp without thinking of that scene. Dom Deluise was a classic....so was that movie.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Oct 06, 2010, 07:07 PM
sorry but i HAVE to put in my comment about KP,S buddy. Gamma reminds of a snake head at times. do not ask me why but i think it has to do with the lack of fishing  ::) ::) ::) :-* :-* ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Oct 06, 2010, 08:13 PM
Don Giovanni, if I may say so, your lizard looks limp.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/dongiovanni.jpg)

Yeah, well, when you get to be my age.... Oh! My lizard! Oh yeah!

Even kinda looks like Gamma ;D

RG
I'll take that as a compliment !       Dom is one of my favorite comedians ever !


Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Oct 06, 2010, 10:08 PM
This thread is true entertaiment!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Oct 06, 2010, 10:30 PM
Made me use the rotary. I usually just go back to the stationary habits. But it was good practice.  Thanks for the idea.
RG

Here I go again RG........I could google it, but I prefer your explanations. What is a rotary, in fly tieing terms, I haven't run across that one yet!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: adam2000 on Oct 06, 2010, 11:26 PM
Here I go again RG........I could google it, but I prefer your explanations. What is a rotary, in fly tieing terms, I haven't run across that one yet!
im no expert but its a vise, and it spins, im guess ing so you dont have to wrap, not something i need for the flies i tie,  i tie a mean flesh fly, very difficult, lol
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Oct 06, 2010, 11:59 PM
Here I go again RG........I could google it, but I prefer your explanations. What is a rotary, in fly tieing terms, I haven't run across that one yet!
It's a high speed, motorized, pedal operated fly tying vice !     You just put the hook in the jaws, add some cement to the hook, step on the speed control pedal, stand back and toss a fistful of feathers, dubbing, bucktail, chenille and thread at the the hook and then take you foot off the pedal.    Finished product in a matter of seconds !   :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

  I could be wrong...................... ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 07, 2010, 02:37 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/newvise005.jpg)

Gamma's close....but he forgot that I'm a frugal (downright cheap) S.O.B.. So, I bought the hand cranked model ;D I like the glue and throw idea though. I'll have to try that. Maybe I can rig an air assist...a length of tube ....rig a breech....attach a quick valve and trigger.....add compressed air.....load the breech...spin the pre-glued  hook and FIRE!

VOILA'....INSTANT FLY ;D

I watch Mythbusters too much :-\

To answer your question FM, you are correct, the head of the vise rotates by means of the crank handle. This enables one to rotate the hook and add materials rather than wrapping the materials around the hook. On certain flies like woolly buggers and streamers , it's fast. I'm not too good with it yet and I still like to tie with the vice in a stationary position.

On that reverse tied stone fly, it was very handy. It's hard to think backwards, especially when you have trouble thinking forwards :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 07, 2010, 06:04 AM
sorry but i HAVE to put in my comment about KP,S buddy. Gamma reminds of a snake head at times. do not ask me why but i think it has to do with the lack of fishing  ::) ::) ::) :-* :-* ;D
HT, The Last thing you wanna do is.... PUT GAMMA and SNAKEHEAD on the same page....'Ol Trapper's gonna get fired up on this one!! He lost his buddy ROCKY this year, so, it's a sensitive subject!!!! ;D Good Morning to you 'Old Farts!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 07, 2010, 06:12 AM
i heard  storys  RG  made  a  ton of  money  as  a  moderator  and  now  can afford  fancy  fly  tying  vises  and  wild  trips  to  joannes  fabrics! i  also  think  if  gamma   gives  us  all a  bunch  of  his  jigs  we  will allow  him  to  hang out  with us ! (not in public)  and  you'll  even  be  allowed  to  say  were  your  friends  gamma !  again not  in public!  i'm  doing  up  some  single  glue  eggs  today , i  have  had  good  luck  with them  last year  and i  would  like   frank to  test a  few  center pinning  for  me .... rg  i love the tandoms!  those  would  be  rainbow  crushers  on  the  smaller  finger  lakes!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Oct 07, 2010, 06:18 AM
i heard  storys  RG  made  a  ton of  money  as  a  moderator  and  now  can afford  fancy  fly  tying  vises  and  wild  trips  to  joannes  fabrics! i  also  think  if  gamma   gives  us  all a  bunch  of  his  jigs  we  will allow  him  to  hang out  with us ! (not in public)  and  you'll  even  be  allowed  to  say  were  your  friends  gamma !  again not  in public!  i'm  doing  up  some  single  glue  eggs  today , i  have  had  good  luck  with them  last year  and i  would  like   frank to  test a  few  center pinning  for  me .... rg  i love the tandoms!  those  would  be  rainbow  crushers  on  the  smaller  finger  lakes!
i will be willing to give those eggs a try also you know  ??? ???
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 07, 2010, 06:48 AM
RG, That small box with the holes drilled in it is a great way to get dubbing and whatever from it. Great Idea!!  By the way, you are very organized!!!! ;) You can leave some things outta place if you want to, we're all buds on here!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 07, 2010, 10:18 AM
RG  where  the  hell is  yer  hienken????  come  on  do i have  to teach ya  how  to set up your bench????....salmon  really  killed   yarn  flies  today  oh my ...... 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Oct 07, 2010, 11:57 AM
i heard  storys  RG  made  a  ton of  money  as  a  moderator  and  now  can afford  fancy  fly  tying  vises  and  wild  trips  to  joannes  fabrics! i  also  think  if  gamma   gives  us  all a  bunch  of  his  jigs  we  will allow  him  to  hang out  with us ! (not in public)  and  you'll  even  be  allowed  to  say  were  your  friends  gamma !  again not  in public!  i'm  doing  up  some  single  glue  eggs  today , i  have  had  good  luck  with them  last year  and i  would  like   frank to  test a  few  center pinning  for  me .... rg  i love the tandoms!  those  would  be  rainbow  crushers  on  the  smaller  finger  lakes!
Sniffing or tying ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D   I would assume the former due to your antics lately ! ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 07, 2010, 12:05 PM
pats  gamma  on the  head  ,heres a  buck  go  buy a soda  and play in the  road.....  sunny out  right  now  hope  it  stays  this way  for awhile streams are loaded and  almost unfishable  ....  i hate  putting weight  on a  leader 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 07, 2010, 01:21 PM
pats  gamma  on the  head  ,heres a  buck  go  buy a soda  and play in the  road.....  sunny out  right  now  hope  it  stays  this way  for awhile streams are loaded and  almost unfishable  ....  i hate  putting weight  on a  leader 
:rotflol: :w00t: :rotflol: :w00t: :rotflol: :w00t: :rotflol: :w00t:--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: adam2000 on Oct 07, 2010, 04:03 PM
RG, That small box with the holes drilled in it is a great way to get dubbing and whatever from it. Great Idea!!  By the way, you are very organized!!!! ;) You can leave some things outta place if you want to, we're all buds on here!!--KP 8)

OCD much god,  you shuld see me tying flies, sh*& everywhere, the floor, ceiling, dogs mouth
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 07, 2010, 05:39 PM
Don't believe everything you see :-\
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/disorganized001.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/disorganized002.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/disorganized003.jpg)


Meet Walter...he's over 101yrs old. I've had him since 1974. Got him from a older gentleman when I demolished his back yard greenhouse for him who said he had him for 65 years. (named for his previous caretaker)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/disorganized004.jpg)

He's a good old Jade Tree ;D

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: esox v on Oct 07, 2010, 06:31 PM
Killer Jade tree.. love it.. My grandmother has had the same one forever !!! I remember that in some of my first memories being a little kid and going to their house. That and a giant aloe plant... you wont believe it but i think they have been in the same pots for 35+ years. Thanks 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 07, 2010, 06:46 PM
very  relaxing  work area  RG thats  a  very impotant thing, i'm  tying  some kaayuk  flies  right  now  in a  range of  colors
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Oct 07, 2010, 07:42 PM
Sweet tree RG.
I'm not sure but I think you may have a slight and I repeat slight case of OCD.... ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 08, 2010, 01:29 AM
Sweet tree RG.
I'm not sure but I think you may have a slight and I repeat slight case of OCD.... ;D
It comes and goes. I do get frustrated not having things at my fingertips when I'm tying...and working....and fishing.....and cooking.....Maybe it doesn't "go" all that much :-\

I salvaged 2 more doors for additional bench space. I hope to buy the shelf units this week and do the expansion. I need more space for materials storage and a rod building bench. I have fly rod and ice rod blanks that I haven't tied up yet. My machinist and I are working on some components for a rod wrapping station. I like that guy. He's 200 times more particular than I am.

Sorry Trapper, I have no idea what kind of fly you're working on. Any links I can look at for reference?

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 08, 2010, 05:31 AM
lol  kaayuk  flys   lol  simply    glo  bug  yarn  tied  on a  hook  ,when  finished ya  toss them  at  salmon  so  far  i have kaayuked a few  salmon  but  creek  chubs  are  extrmely  found  of  kaayuk flies!!!!!....big differance in size  little  in taste
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 08, 2010, 02:34 PM
Don't believe everything you see :-\
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/disorganized001.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/disorganized002.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/disorganized003.jpg)


Meet Walter...he's over 101yrs old. I've had him since 1974. Got him from a older gentleman when I demolished his back yard greenhouse for him who said he had him for 65 years. (named for his previous caretaker)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/disorganized004.jpg)

He's a good old Jade Tree ;D

RG


Hey RG, Is that one of those Suzanne Somers thigh masters on the floor next to that silver bowl on the floor???? LOL!!! Nice bench by the way!!!--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 08, 2010, 04:31 PM
No, its a light with magnifying lens that's waiting for a home on the expanded bench. But....Suzanne can come over and exercise my thighs any time she wants ;D

I get it Trap...local "nomenclature"

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 08, 2010, 04:46 PM
I also made an addition to my arsenal of fly tying tools....
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/drslick001.jpg)

3 essential pair of scissors by Dr. Slick.....I'm impressed. Obviously designed by a fly tier for fly tiers. I have  a pair of Ghinger  scissors that cost as much as this set. These are better suited for fly tying materials.  A real value from LL Bean for $29 and free shipping.

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 08, 2010, 06:24 PM
No, its a light with magnifying lens that's waiting for a home on the expanded bench. But....Suzanne can come over and exercise my thighs any time she wants ;D

I get it Trap...local "nomenclature"

RG
;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 09, 2010, 06:17 AM
taking the  day off  to  tie  flies and  relax maybe  hit the lake  for some real  fish ....bluegills later  Mr  KP  jr  it  was  nice  finally meeting you  sir!  and  the  young  miss  kp  also!  kp  good  job, i need to  fill the  fly  boxes and  rest my achy  hands  today  .....  lots  of  laughs  yesterday  evening with  HT  having  a  fish  jump on the far  shore  .....  lol  ....at lease HT  and  i seen one trophy  for  sure!!!!!........sorry  this  one  is  a  secret !! :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 09, 2010, 06:46 PM
Spent my day attacking my list of "to do's"...cleaned the windows...rearranged the bedroom (to make the Bride happy), moved Walter into the bedroom for the winter and then I attacked my fly tying room. The expansion is near complete and I'm pleased with the outcome. I'm going for some Crappie and bass in the morning and then I'll get it done. Can't wait to christen the new digs with the first fly and a frosty cold one ;D

I'll put up some pics when it's done.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 09, 2010, 07:06 PM
sounds  great  RG  !  i   played   on the  bench  for  awhile  today relaxing  and  avoiding the  crowds  ..  soon  the  steelies  with be  the  winter  kings  of  the  river  and  the  only game  till  spring   when  i'm not  on the  hard  water ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 09, 2010, 07:20 PM
I'm really torn Trap, I was down in the southern tier yesterday and the Cohocton and it's feeders were high and just clearing....prefect fall trout water. I'd love to drown some of those stone flies I've been tying....but the crappie are in my back yard and the smallmouth are in the eat till they drop mode  :-\

I'll probably stay local and head south Wednesday, if the weather holds.


RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 09, 2010, 07:40 PM
i  was  banging  small  steelies     in  oswego  till the  water  went  high  and  since  been in the  small  tribs  ....the  bass  and  panfish  should  be  on the  bite  but  that  silver  flash in  fast  water  ......  but  week ends  theres the  crowds  ....decessions  ...... it's all good  RG  you  can't  go the  wrong  way  really  .....  soon as that  water  clears   those  stone flies  will kick  butt   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 10, 2010, 02:24 AM
By the way, those fabric paint pens are the bee's knees.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 10, 2010, 08:52 AM
part  of the  fun of  tying  is  looking  for  new material and  new ways  of using it basicly anything  from  road kill  to a  glue  stick  can  be used after material  we  begin  studing the  fish  we intend on catching ,from that  we study  insect life cycles and food chains ....orrrrr  we  come to my fishfinder ,relax enjoy a heineken  and  simple ty up a few patterns  that catches our  fancy  .... flyfishing  is a amazing  sport  wether  you  strive  to be a  elitist with a  degree in  entomology or  simple enjoy  hearing a bluegill sip a spider .... the  good  thing is  most of  us  fall somewhere in between .... our  fishing  begins  long  before we  pull  up  to that stream it  started as  we found a new patteren  to ty  or  searched  for materials ,  the  night we spent  sitting at the bench  in our own little world,we finish a new  fly  and  with  child like  enthusiasm  we  rush  to show our better halfs ...that  nod and smile that they give ,glad  we play  with feathers and fur  and  not  tring to  raise  our  own  spikes ....we  find ourselfs  listening more and sharing more  with  fellow  addicted fishing  friends ....the quility  of our  fishing  time  goes to a new level ....catching a lot of fish  becomes  optional . smiles and laughter  become  mandatory. didn't feel like  fighting the  crowds today ,although i understand why there here and i do  wish then all a safe and  happy  time....rather  i'm in a quiet mood  so  it's  going  to be  mr  bluegill  today once my hands loosen up a bit ..... i leave  all the younger fisherman with a new though ,it has been said  to bad youth is wasted on the young .... i say  it's to bad  experance and wisdom  is  wasted  on the older  generation ....have fun and be safe ..corkers  pfd and  pay attention a  ego  doesn't  float well  with me  or  in the  water!

                                                                                                     life  is good
                   
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 10, 2010, 09:06 AM
Great reading this morning Trapper!!! That by far was better reading than the sunday paper......OH, by the way Yanks sweep!! ;)--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 10, 2010, 09:12 AM
and  the  quest  for  28  goes  on!!!!!!!!!!!!  arn't the   redddddddd  soxs  done  ??????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Oct 10, 2010, 12:12 PM
Very well said Trapper. I don't care for crowds much myself, but four or five friends on the water or on the ice fit the bill well. Maybe someday I'll have the desire to sit for hours tying flies. God knows I watch my dad do it enough years. He just had a lot more patience than myself. I am the tweener generation. Old enough to long for the good old days but young enough to want it NOW!!
I hope the bluegill and pans find your flies to much to resist and you have fun....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 10, 2010, 02:28 PM
Waxing philosophical again eh Trapper ;D Goes with the territory. We've never met, but I feel like I'm not alone.

My knee is pretty sore today so I decided I'd finish the new digs and maybe hit an easy pool a bit later.

Doubled my bench space.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/newdigs005.jpg)

Added shelves and LED sticks over my vise.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/newdigs002.jpg)

Added some storage to include rod storage for when the winter comes.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/newdigs004.jpg)

Pretty comfortable so far. Well worth the effort.

RG



Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 10, 2010, 02:50 PM
RG your  a  pack  rat  like me!!!!  i have  found  that  storage  is  the  key  and   organizing  it   simple  take  out  what  you  need  for a  pattern  the  return  when your  done ,it really is  tough  to get  yourself  in that habit  but  it  is a  must also  i  have  alot  of  plastic  boxes  ready to  store  flies   or  new  materials  in ....nice  work  area  ...looks  comfortable  ...another thing i  noticed  is  your  chair  is  solid...good  choose  i  had   a  computor  chair    rather  have  a  solid  base  when i'm  tying ....Philosophy is  alot  like  a   trout  stream  RG  ,it changes  with  seasons ,floods ,age ,and  such  ..... as  flyfisherman  and  tyiers  we  often are  alone  and  have   time  to  ponder  such things ....as  humans  we all have a  deep need to  believe  in something!  after  careful  consideration i  believe  i'm going to  ty  some  hares  ears   ;D

                                                                                                                           life  is  good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 10, 2010, 03:12 PM
I agree....tie some Hare's ears ;D

I love that pattern. I found an interesting website  The Fly Bench (http://community.flyfisherman.com/fly-bench). Their home page has what they call "The Foundation Forty". Basically, what they consider to be to 40 flies every tier should know and use. I've decided to tie them all, 5 at a time, and put them on a display board on the wall. I think it'll be interesting to see the 5 fly progression (hopefully they'll improve). It'll make some nice decoration and I'm sure to learn some new technique.

Hey, they may even catch fish ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 10, 2010, 05:07 PM
WAIT!!!!! you mean  these  flies  catch  fish ?????  RG  i  kinda  got  a  idea  from you my  den is  rather  small  after seeing  your  set up i  went  and   got a  metal  shelf unit  think i'm going to  go  buy  another  one  for  fly tying  the  other  fo ice  jigs  paints  and  spinning  stuff  ......  this  gives  me plenty of  room  for  the  stereo   ;D

                                                                                                life  is  good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 10, 2010, 06:41 PM
Hey Trap, if you look real hard... there's one box with the initials KP on it....Must be perch flies or jigs!!! LOL!! wishful thinking on my part right?? Tightlines you 'Ol Farts!!--KP 8)   SWEET fly tying bench RG!! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 10, 2010, 06:45 PM
Hey Trap, if you look real hard... there's one box with the initials KP on it....Must be perch flies or jigs!!! LOL!! wishful thinking on my part right?? Tightlines you 'Ol Farts!!--KP 8)   SWEET fly tying bench RG!! ;)

theres  2  ice  rods  on the wall  for you KP!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 10, 2010, 06:58 PM
I'll have Jr. set up an ice fishing day with you and then you can deliver the goods. You do like coffee don't you??? ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 10, 2010, 07:03 PM
i have  been  known  to  drink a  cup now  and  then  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Oct 11, 2010, 11:34 PM
It comes and goes. I do get frustrated not having things at my fingertips when I'm tying...and working....and fishing.....and cooking.....Maybe it doesn't "go" all that much :-\

I salvaged 2 more doors for additional bench space. I hope to buy the shelf units this week and do the expansion. I need more space for materials storage and a rod building bench. I have fly rod and ice rod blanks that I haven't tied up yet. My machinist and I are working on some components for a rod wrapping station. I like that guy. He's 200 times more particular than I am.

Sorry Trapper, I have no idea what kind of fly you're working on. Any links I can look at for reference?

RG

Well, I see what happens when I go away from here for a short amount of time! RG..I am starting to realize that we have more similarities than I previously guessed. Not alot of people in this day and age posses the skills and qualities of a self conscious chef, that thrives on expertise in the kitchen, has good organizational skills, continuously exhibits superb knowledge of grammar, and is not to proud to show that a man can also be at peace within himself, while still doing things that most men would consider "woman's work", for lack of better words. I have no problems dusting, as a matter of fact, I do better than anyone else in my home at it. Because I focus on the job at hand. Enough said on this tangent!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 12, 2010, 03:52 AM
Thanks FM.
I'm pretty comfortable in my own skin. Yeah, I cook, clean and do dishes and windows. I learned a long time ago that there's things my bride does very well and things she doesn't.

All that aside, I've always made work spaces comfortable and efficient. I have a knack for that. I made a lot of money designing and producing work stations for the likes of Kodak, Xerox and Bausch and Lomb, to name a few.

 I've built 3 mill work shops in my life and someday I'll build myself a last wood shop for just me. I'm a wood worker at heart and when my retirement comes, I'll return to it. I make my living doing electrical work. I know more than the majority about troubleshooting and repairs. It's boring because it's so easy for me, but.....gotta pay for skittles and beer somehow ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Oct 12, 2010, 04:15 PM
and  the  quest  for  28  goes  on!!!!!!!!!!!!  arn't the   redddddddd  soxs  done  ??????
Nope. Watch out for next year boys, THE RED SOX ARE IN TOWN AND TAKING NAMES!!!! Watch Out Yankees
 ;D ;D ;D :flex: :thumbup_smilie: :clapping: :bowdown: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Oct 12, 2010, 04:16 PM
taking the  day off  to  tie  flies and  relax maybe  hit the lake  for some real  fish ....bluegills later  Mr  KP  jr  it  was  nice  finally meeting you  sir!  and  the  young  miss  kp  also!  kp  good  job, i need to  fill the  fly  boxes and  rest my achy  hands  today  .....  lots  of  laughs  yesterday  evening with  HT  having  a  fish  jump on the far  shore  .....  lol  ....at lease HT  and  i seen one trophy  for  sure!!!!!........sorry  this  one  is  a  secret !! :rotflol: :rotflol:
Nice meeting you too Trap!!! 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: BAZOOKAJOE on Oct 12, 2010, 04:26 PM
Looks like a nice man cave you have there!   8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 12, 2010, 05:10 PM
Needs a little fridge with a growler or 2 of porter...maybe some backup Heineken.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: BAZOOKAJOE on Oct 12, 2010, 05:51 PM
Now your talking!   :D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 12, 2010, 08:35 PM
it was my pleasure  meeting  you  mr  kp jr  and  your  sister too .....i  have a  extra  yankees  hat  that  would  look good  on you!  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Oct 13, 2010, 12:39 AM
it was my pleasure  meeting  you  mr  kp jr  and  your  sister too .....i  have a  extra  yankees  hat  that  would  look good  on you!  ;D
Hey Pops !  Lay off the kid already  :P   He's got a good head on his shoulders and hates the Yankee's.    That's good in my book !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 13, 2010, 02:39 AM
ya  don't tell  kids  to  not  go to school ... pee  in the wind...or  not go with a  winning  team!!!!  ...the  quest for 28!!!!!  .....at  current rates  boston  will be  doing  this  400 years  from  now   :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 13, 2010, 07:42 AM
Hey Pops !  Lay off the kid already  :P   He's got a good head on his shoulders and hates the Yankee's.    That's good in my book !
Thanks GAMMA, your not so bad after all!!! Hey, I gotta extra YANKEES hat for you as well!! Remind me when you see me!!! ;) 28
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 13, 2010, 06:06 PM
i  use  this  thread  not  just  for  flyfishing but things  that  touch my heart  ...first  HT  ya  knucklehead  ...thanks  but ya  didn't have too! 

then theres this other guy!  geez  spends two days working on my  truck ,  shares a  very personal  and  profound  writing  with me!  and it  in it's self  is beautiful ,personal,and  some of the best advice i ever heard! then he  takes me  fishing!  not just anywhere  but to a spot that  means  the world  to him ....and  no  worrys  brother  what happens  at that lake  stays  at that  lake :D...we  enjoyed  a  special  night  .... and   as  we  ended  it  .....he  asked me  what i felt  about  what  he  read  earlier  .....  i feel you!  i feel  most the  guys  i meet  on this  site  ...  the  reaching  out  ,the  helping,  the  harmless  picking on .... oh  what  all the  regulars  have  on here  isn't just  fishing reports  and  technics ...we  have  a  brotherhood ..  even though  i  often  disagree  with people ,i know  that  we  are  all bigger then  opinions ,  and such ...  were real men  and  when the  chips are  down  we  help  each other ...wheather  it's  advice  or  rolling up  the  shirt  sleaves  ....  everyone  of you  guys   that i  have  had the  honor to met  are  great people  and  good  men  ....hey  even you  gamma :)........   a  special thanks  my beater  runs  great  and  i  can  fish  again ....see  ya  in the morning  bro
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 14, 2010, 06:48 AM
I couldn't have said it any better Trap!! I have met and fished with a bunch of you guys on this site, including Trap ;), it's not about the fishing that makes this big world spin around. There are a few guys on here that I would break my back for to lend a hand to, and I gotta say that the man your speaking highly of Trap, is one of those people!! Now, before I continue to ramble on and make myself tear up, YES, even tough  :flex: guy contractors like me cry!! I'll leave this on a good note........LIFE IS GOOD!!!  :)   Trap, I'll need a hug next time I see you buddy!!! :laugh: :laugh: Tightlines Gentlemen!!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Oct 14, 2010, 06:57 AM
Holy freaking man love. OMG i hope Stormy doesn't read this. You guys are great -end of story 8) 8) ;D i couldn't agree more with you guys. 2 more days of work and then i am going on a hunting and fishing RAMPAGE for a week  :flex: :flex: :flex: :flex: ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 14, 2010, 07:01 AM
Holy freaking man love. OMG i hope Stormy doesn't read this. You guys are great -end of story 8) 8) ;D i couldn't agree more with you guys. 2 more days of work and then i am going on a hunting and fishing RAMPAGE for a week  :flex: :flex: :flex: :flex: ;D ;D ;D
You WILL have company for at least one day HT!!.... and don't start huggin' up on me when you see me either, I kick puppies who try to get up on my leg bro!!! END OF STORY!!!! ;D--KP 8) I gotta go to work , rap with you boys later!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 14, 2010, 08:42 AM
tissue????   cry  baby !     :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 14, 2010, 01:24 PM
NO tissues Trap!!! I quit typing and went to work before I welled up inside!!! I tore off a 45' x 16' porch off a house today and forgot all about your story for awhile!! LOL!!!  Reading your stories always makes my day though!!! Feelings are mutual Buddy!! ;) I know where the perch are hiding!!! It's a secret though!! ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 14, 2010, 03:43 PM
hey  KP  did  i  go  to  high  school  at  this  secret  spot too   :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 14, 2010, 03:46 PM
If I remember right... ::) ::) Yes, you did!!!!! I went there for a bit as well!!!! ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Oct 14, 2010, 03:53 PM
WOW I spend a few days away on the hunting site and look what you guys do to this thread..... :-\
LOL, good stuff!! I have to agree, met a few of the gang and all are salt of the earth guys.
Thanks for sharing Trap..... ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Oct 14, 2010, 05:12 PM
That jon boat is still in the back of my truck Trap, next time we go, we should bring the fly rods also. We will slap them suckers silly. Glad ya liked the sermon at the shop. Maybe I'll be a preacher in my next life! :o
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 14, 2010, 05:16 PM
That jon boat is still in the back of my truck Trap, next time we go, we should bring the fly rods also. We will slap them suckers silly. Glad ya liked the sermon at the shop. Maybe I'll be a preacher in my next life! :o

buddy  sorry  i  didn't  make  it  back out  but i'll  be  there  bright and  early
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Oct 14, 2010, 05:28 PM
That jon boat is still in the back of my truck Trap, next time we go, we should bring the fly rods also. We will slap them suckers silly. Glad ya liked the sermon at the shop. Maybe I'll be a preacher in my next life! :o
you took the old timer to the Blue gill capitol spot in the world didn't ya  >:( :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* you guys suck  :-* :-* :-* ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 14, 2010, 05:36 PM
i  been  there  before  HT  but  this  night  was  different  .....  had  a  really  great  time  !!!!!  what  happens  at the  lake  stays  at the  lake   :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: little  personal  joke   
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Oct 14, 2010, 05:41 PM
i  been  there  before  HT  but  this  night  was  different  .....  had  a  really  great  time  !!!!!  what  happens  at the  lake  stays  at the  lake   :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: little  personal  joke   
yes sir i understand that. but i can say this though that is a great spot come ice time in the afternoon. me you ,FM and Walley1 will need to make an afternoon trip this winter. HUGE gills and other stuff. just dont let lance take pictures to post  ??? ??? he knows what i am talking about on that one. great spot end of story.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Oct 14, 2010, 05:44 PM
We found where the perch hangout towards the end of last winter also.  :o :o
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 14, 2010, 08:02 PM
we  should  get  a  bunch  of  use  to  do  a  otisco  trip too! 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Oct 14, 2010, 08:46 PM
i  been  there  before  HT  but  this  night  was  different  .....  had  a  really  great  time  !!!!!  what  happens  at the  lake  stays  at the  lake   :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: little  personal  joke   
Some people just insist that they can walk on water ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 14, 2010, 10:55 PM
mmmmmmmmm  i  ain't  saying  a  word   gamma! :whistling: :whistling:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Oct 14, 2010, 11:31 PM
Walk on water?...... Not so much, but I do have the sklls of hiding myself under a couple foot,and scaring the B'jesus out of old timers that have become worry warts! ;) I've been timed to hold myself underwater for just under 5 minutes. I started that when I was a young pup, in the bathtub.

At a young age, I learned how to give my body negative buoncey, then slow down my cardio' functions, and just "sit"..... Over the years, I have scared the life out of alot of people, not on purpose, but also to prove the point of my gift.  I still practice this, periodically, It is all about lung capacity, and learning how to put the body into "sleep" mode without getting a phobia issue.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Oct 15, 2010, 02:15 AM
Walk on water?...... Not so much, but I do have the sklls of hiding myself under a couple foot,and scaring the B'jesus out of old timers that have become worry warts! ;) I've been timed to hold myself underwater for just under 5 minutes. I started that when I was a young pup, in the bathtub.

At a young age, I learned how to give my body negative buoncey, then slow down my cardio' functions, and just "sit"..... Over the years, I have scared the life out of alot of people, not on purpose, but also to prove the point of my gift.  I still practice this, periodically, It is all about lung capacity, and learning how to put the body into "sleep" mode without getting a phobia issue.
:cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: FM you need to go to bed earlier bud
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Simplecarppieguy on Oct 15, 2010, 05:18 AM
I don't know if I am an old F--t but, I have a 6 wieght Rod with floating line. Its a Browning rod I bought it on the late 90's.. This about flyrods RIGHT??
Want to talk ice fishing.. Go to ice shanty.. :P :P :P :P :-* :laugh: :cookoo:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 15, 2010, 07:33 AM
like  i  said  what happens  at the  lake  stays  at the  lake   ...we  very  well may  be  talking  fly  fishing  ...although  it  is  my thread  ,,so  we  can  talk  what  ever  ....   and  lance  ya  skeer  me  again   i'll  make  ya  wear  corkers  and  a  pfd  ........
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Oct 15, 2010, 07:35 AM
like  i  said  what happens  at the  lake  stays  at the  lake   ...we  very  well may  be  talking  fly  fishing  ...although  it  is  my thread  ,,so  we  can  talk  what  ever  ....   and  lance  ya  skeer  me  again   i'll  make  ya  wear  corkers  and  a  pfd  ........
oh come on now lets hear the truth of what happend Trapper. come on spill the beans bud  ??? ??? ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 15, 2010, 07:36 AM
 nothing happened  ....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 15, 2010, 07:45 AM
we  should  get  a  bunch  of  use  to  do  a  otisco  trip too! 
You got that right Trap, I gotta date with one of those BRUTE TIGERS in that water!!! ;) :flex:--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 15, 2010, 07:47 AM
:cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: FM you need to go to bed earlier bud
I believe that there is a guy, David Blain, who does the same crazy crap!!!! You the man FM!!!--KP You would make this Jr. Buzzard into an 'Ol Buzzard really quick too with those antics!! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 15, 2010, 12:42 PM
well  it's  pouring  and  i'm  setting at the  bench ....  i  tied  up  some  small  san jaun  worms   in pink  ...  and  now  back  to the  oswego  brown  trout  slayer  fly  the   yellow  stone  ...  i  ty this   bead  head  with  brown  tail ,wing case  and  legs  yellow  body  with  copper  wire  rib  .....  as  far  as a  fly i  honestly believe  this  is  the  best patteren  for  browns  in oswego  river !  after  years  on tring  different  patterens   i  can say this  has  out  produced  all others  hands  down  .....  i sooooooooo  want  to  get  over  to  lock 7 ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 15, 2010, 04:46 PM
Get your camera fixed....we want some pics...nothing like a good "magic fly" ;D

I'm still working on my stone fly patterns. I can feel a materials binge coming on. Maybe a morning trip to Bass Pro. :w00t:
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 15, 2010, 06:52 PM
rg  i assure  you the first peek   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Oct 16, 2010, 01:18 AM
like  i  said  what happens  at the  lake  stays  at the  lake   ...we  very  well may  be  talking  fly  fishing  ...although  it  is  my thread  ,,so  we  can  talk  what  ever  ....   and  lance  ya  skeer  me  again   i'll  make  ya  wear  corkers  and  a  pfd  ........

I hear ya Trap...... But if you scare me again......I'm bringing a defribilator and an extra set of body organs to transplant if needed! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 16, 2010, 06:27 AM
 :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:   hey  lance  what  happens  in the  lake  stays  at  the  lake  , including my  mortality  .....  heck  if  frank  seen me  sick  or  you  flopping  we  both  woulda  had a  bead  rig  snaggin  our butts  a  rope threw  our  mouths  and  our  pictures  on  every  thread  on here   :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:.......oh this  was  totally  uncalled  for  ..but  it  was  funny .... i  been  hanging  with  tony  to much
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Oct 16, 2010, 02:49 PM
This is only the beginning of the antics you will encounter when ya partner up with me for a day in this beautiful world that was given for us to share! :o :o Plenty of memorable times to come my friend. Glad we have met. ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 17, 2010, 01:14 AM
well  we  have  to  hit  that  with  flyrods  when  there  on  the  top  feeding !  right  now  gills  will  be  stocking  up  just  like  walleyes  for  the  fall   warm  sunny  day  you  can  still  have  some  top  water  fun!   but  a  bead  head  and  strike  indacator    and  yer  in heaven  brother  ....cheating  by  putting  a  spike   or two on is allowed  just  be  like  gamma  and  deny  it! 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Oct 17, 2010, 06:01 AM
well  we  have  to  hit  that  with  flyrods  when  there  on  the  top  feeding !  right  now  gills  will  be  stocking  up  just  like  walleyes  for  the  fall   warm  sunny  day  you  can  still  have  some  top  water  fun!   but  a  bead  head  and  strike  indacator    and  yer  in heaven  brother  ....cheating  by  putting  a  spike   or two on is allowed  just  be  like  gamma  and  deny  it! 
Keep it up and I'll start calling you HT !!       I will however, drown some worms and marshmallows ion Skaneateles Lake this coming week but that's about the extent of my live bait fishing !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 17, 2010, 10:05 AM
gamma  serious  question  ,do you  run  the  double  hook  so  the  marshmellow  keeps  the  worm  of  the  bottom ,remeber  running  it  like  that  for  steelies , let me  know  how  ya  do!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Oct 17, 2010, 01:17 PM
gamma  serious  question  ,do you  run  the  double  hook  so  the  marshmellow  keeps  the  worm  of  the  bottom ,remeber  running  it  like  that  for  steelies , let me  know  how  ya  do!
Single hook #6 or #4 (Mustad 79791)  Push a marshmallow onto the hook and then past the eye onto the line.  Single hook a worm and then push the mallow back down over the hook eye.
   I leave the bag of marshmallows open so the get hard.   Easier to work with and they'll float a worm much longer. 
Depending on the wind and sunshine, I use different rigs but usually, it's just an egg sinker, 2 foot leader and a hook !      If the lake is flat and the sun is shining, the rainbows will feed near the surface.  Once the egg sinker hits bottom, let out line until you see your worm / mallow floating on the surface and adjust depth from that point !    Works every time...........................for me anyway ! :whistling: :whistling: ;D ;D

  There's not much food in Skaneateles and the rainbows and lakers get pretty dumb !     ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 17, 2010, 01:46 PM
i'll  try  it !   can  we  run  beads?????? :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 17, 2010, 02:24 PM
Single hook #6 or #4 (Mustad 79791)  Push a marshmallow onto the hook and then past the eye onto the line.  Single hook a worm and then push the mallow back down over the hook eye.
   I leave the bag of marshmallows open so the get hard.   Easier to work with and they'll float a worm much longer. 
Depending on the wind and sunshine, I use different rigs but usually, it's just an egg sinker, 2 foot leader and a hook !      If the lake is flat and the sun is shining, the rainbows will feed near the surface.  Once the egg sinker hits bottom, let out line until you see your worm / mallow floating on the surface and adjust depth from that point !    Works every time...........................for me anyway ! :whistling: :whistling: ;D ;D

  There's not much food in Skaneateles and the rainbows and lakers get pretty dumb !     ;) ;) ;)
For some dumb reason, I don't believe the bag gets left open toooo long for them to get hard with you around GAMMA!!! :w00t:--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 17, 2010, 03:35 PM
Gamma never did learn how to fish "right side up" so he fishes "up side down"   :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Oct 17, 2010, 03:42 PM
For some dumb reason, I don't believe the bag gets left open toooo long for them to get hard with you around GAMMA!!! :w00t:--KP 8)
Don't like marshmallows unless they're roasted !    Like HT's brain after a 6 pack  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Oct 17, 2010, 03:44 PM
Gamma never did learn how to fish "right side up" so he fishes "up side down"   :-\

RG
Because I have that kind of talent !  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D




3,546 brown trout..................1,632 steelhead............... 23,019 walleyes..................all caught while up side down !   ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 17, 2010, 03:59 PM
Someone told me that technique works for crappie....Can't seem to remember who it was though :-\

I've never tried it ::)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WaynefromMaine on Oct 17, 2010, 04:23 PM
          Gamma, Was you up side down because HT and frank woooped you and trap's #$$.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WaynefromMaine on Oct 17, 2010, 04:47 PM
   Frank and HT, Must of hit a soft spot with gamma, he won't answer my post. Or maybe him and trap are fishing so they can get some more experince on you.  :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: No offense trap & Gamma all in a little fun.lol
                      Wayno
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Oct 17, 2010, 04:54 PM
         Gamma, Was you up side down because HT and frank woooped you and trap's #$$.
 Wayno ..    The only way those two knuckleheads could beat Trap and I would be to wait until we're both T#ts up in a cemetery or to super glue us to the counter at FM's shop !  
   Those two have a better chance at growing another head....!!     And, the way they talk and gloat, they're gonna need another one each so the first one won't explode  :whistling: :whistling: :w00t: :w00t: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :sleep1: :sleep1: :w00t: :w00t: :whistling: ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WaynefromMaine on Oct 17, 2010, 05:20 PM
    Gamma,   If they do explode maybe you can pick up the egg's so snagger can have some to tie sack's with. :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Oct 17, 2010, 05:59 PM
Walk on water?...... Not so much, but I do have the sklls of hiding myself under a couple foot,and scaring the B'jesus out of old timers that have become worry warts! ;) I've been timed to hold myself underwater for just under 5 minutes. I started that when I was a young pup, in the bathtub.

At a young age, I learned how to give my body negative buoncey, then slow down my cardio' functions, and just "sit"..... Over the years, I have scared the life out of alot of people, not on purpose, but also to prove the point of my gift.  I still practice this, periodically, It is all about lung capacity, and learning how to put the body into "sleep" mode without getting a phobia issue.
Man,  stop watching Criss ANgel Mindfreak!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 17, 2010, 07:22 PM
 ya  know  gamma  no  joke   i'm  willing  to  bet  we  could  do  well  in  the  panfish  tournys  !  we  should  hit  a  few  this  year  on the  ice ....we  can  even  invite  KP  he  has a  slowmoble   to  get  our  old  arses  out  there   ;D

ordering  a  few  st  croix  blanks  this  week  two  10 1/2  noodles a  5wt  and  a  7  wt  9 footers 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Oct 18, 2010, 01:52 AM
    Gamma,   If they do explode maybe you can pick up the egg's so snagger can have some to tie sack's with. :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
So........you're trying to say that HT & Frank are EGG HEADS ??   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Oct 18, 2010, 01:54 AM
ya  know  gamma  no  joke   i'm  willing  to  bet  we  could  do  well  in  the  panfish  tournys  !  we  should  hit  a  few  this  year  on the  ice ....we  can  even  invite  KP  he  has a  slowmoble   to  get  our  old  arses  out  there   ;D

ordering  a  few  st  croix  blanks  this  week  two  10 1/2  noodles a  5wt  and  a  7  wt  9 footers 
  Early Christmas shopping ??   :whistling: :whistling:       Will you have my Christmas gift done in time ??   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 18, 2010, 04:37 AM
you'd  put  a  good  rod  in a  nerd  car?????.....thinking  now  instead  of  ordering  noodle  blanks  ordering  3  extra  7  wt  blanks  and  tying  them up  as noodle  rods ,  little  more  bite  then  a noodle  rod  blank  for hook setting , in the  70's  early  80's  most  noodle  rods  were  just  fly  rod  blanks  tyied  spinning  style  ,i still have a  old loomis  like  that
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 18, 2010, 05:59 AM
 ok  seeing  i  have  to  replace  my  camera  i  looked   at  a  few   sights  ,  this  is  the  best   i  found  that  comes  to  my  yellow  stone  ,   this   guy  is  a  bit  of  a  sloppy  tyier  and  the  fly  is  to  loose   but   i'm  sure  you   can  do  better  ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TldIzDknnFQ&feature=fvw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TldIzDknnFQ&feature=fvw)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 18, 2010, 07:15 AM
ya  know  gamma  no  joke   i'm  willing  to  bet  we  could  do  well  in  the  panfish  tournys  !  we  should  hit  a  few  this  year  on the  ice ....we  can  even  invite  KP  he  has a  slowmoble   to  get  our  old  arses  out  there    ;D

ordering  a  few  st  croix  blanks  this  week  two  10 1/2  noodles a  5wt  and  a  7  wt  9 footers 
You got the truck Trap, I have the snowmobile and trailer....You two 'Ol Buzzards are welcome to it anytime!!! Just call ahead of time!!!--KP  NO man hugging on it though when you two are riding double!! :w00t:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 18, 2010, 03:14 PM
He is a frantic fly tier...maybe they just sped up the tape :-\

I get the idea though. Thanks Trap.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WaynefromMaine on Oct 18, 2010, 06:00 PM
So........you're trying to say that HT & Frank are EGG HEADS ??   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
    Gamma, I'm just a neutral party trying to have some fun, they must be egg head's if they havn't put a woooping on you old fart's yet.lol
                                                                          Wayno
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: adam2000 on Oct 18, 2010, 06:22 PM
ok  seeing  i  have  to  replace  my  camera  i  looked   at  a  few   sights  ,  this  is  the  best   i  found  that  comes  to  my  yellow  stone  ,   this   guy  is  a  bit  of  a  sloppy  tyier  and  the  fly  is  to  loose   but   i'm  sure  you   can  do  better  ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TldIzDknnFQ&feature=fvw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TldIzDknnFQ&feature=fvw)

he looks pretty good to me,  i tie a mean estaz and flesh fly
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Oct 18, 2010, 06:24 PM
he looks pretty good to me,  i tie a mean estaz and flesh fly
When are you going down to the River again because soccer is done for the season and before too long I have Basketball tryouts!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: adam2000 on Oct 18, 2010, 06:41 PM
When are you going down to the River again because soccer is done for the season and before too long I have Basketball tryouts!!!
well its bow season man, so not sure , i have the first week of nov off, so ill be doing some fishing then but youll be in school
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WaynefromMaine on Oct 18, 2010, 07:16 PM
   OK,        No response from HT & Frank so I'm putting my 100$ on lambaste em, He'd (WooooooooooP) all four of ya before you had time to drink your coffee's. Never mind the sandwiche's those will mold before you get a chance to woof them down. :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :flag:

   I rest my case ::) ::) ::). lol
                                                                               Wayno
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Oct 18, 2010, 08:03 PM
When are you going down to the River again because soccer is done for the season and before too long I have Basketball tryouts!!!
You tell em' sonny !! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MickeyFinn on Oct 18, 2010, 08:43 PM
Gamma never did learn how to fish "right side up" so he fishes "up side down"   :-\

RG
If the right side is up then doesn't that mean its sideways ??????

I was unofficially tying my 1millionth wooly bugger when I thought of that.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: esox v on Oct 18, 2010, 08:50 PM
ya  know  gamma  no  joke   i'm  willing  to  bet  we  could  do  well  in  the  panfish  tournys  !  we  should  hit  a  few  this  year  on the  ice ....we  can  even  invite  KP  he  has a  slowmoble   to  get  our  old  arses  out  there   ;D

ordering  a  few  st  croix  blanks  this  week  two  10 1/2  noodles a  5wt  and  a  7  wt  9 footers 
I really like those 10 1/2 ft blanks
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Oct 19, 2010, 03:26 AM
   OK,        No response from HT & Frank so I'm putting my 100$ on lambaste em, He'd (WooooooooooP) all four of ya before you had time to drink your coffee's. Never mind the sandwiche's those will mold before you get a chance to woof them down. :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :flag:

   I rest my case ::) ::) ::). lol
                                                                               Wayno
i was out fishing all day wayno and went to bed early last night. my arms were too sore from catching sharks that i did not even get on the computer. i am going right back at it again today. i stopped counting the sharks that i landed yesterday after 50 :o :o :-* ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Simplecarppieguy on Oct 19, 2010, 05:26 AM
   OK,        No response from HT & Frank so I'm putting my 100$ on lambaste em, He'd (WooooooooooP) all four of ya before you had time to drink your coffee's. Never mind the sandwiche's those will mold before you get a chance to woof them down. :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :flag:

   I rest my case ::) ::) ::). lol
                                                                               Wayno
More of a beadhead....lol.. I am!!! :whistling: :whistling:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Simplecarppieguy on Oct 19, 2010, 05:34 AM
You got the truck Trap, I have the snowmobile and trailer....You two 'Ol Buzzards are welcome to it anytime!!! Just call ahead of time!!!--KP  NO man hugging on it though when you two are riding double!! :w00t:

They can play with there pony tails KP....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Oct 19, 2010, 11:02 AM
i was out fishing all day wayno and went to bed early last night. my arms were too sore from catching sharks that i did not even get on the computer. i am going right back at it again today. i stopped counting the sharks that i landed yesterday after 50 :o :o :-* ;D ;D ;D
Do you have 25 toes on each foot ?  :o :o ;D ;D ;D    Most people from Palermo do ya know ! :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :w00t: :w00t: :rotflol: :rotflol: ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WaynefromMaine on Oct 19, 2010, 06:57 PM
i was out fishing all day wayno and went to bed early last night. my arms were too sore from catching sharks that i did not even get on the computer. i am going right back at it again today. i stopped counting the sharks that i landed yesterday after 50 :o :o :-* ;D ;D ;D
      Sound's like you have a fun day HT, I know what that feel's like when your arm is ready to fall off.   Just joking around with you guy's. Would love to hook up with you on S/R in nov and hook some fish.lol
                                                                                                                                               Wayno
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Oct 20, 2010, 04:40 PM
well its bow season man, so not sure , i have the first week of nov off, so ill be doing some fishing then but youll be in school
I've got saturdays and sundays off!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: adam2000 on Oct 20, 2010, 07:22 PM
I've got saturdays and sundays off!!!

its all up to mr 10pt buddy, if he comes in 30yrds, then game over end of story, did you get out for the youth duck hunt?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 20, 2010, 07:52 PM
estaz   is  a  great   material   adam    with  alot   more  uses   then  just   egg  flys  !  i  just  it  in  a  lot  of  patterns.   friend  gets  it  by  the   bolt  then  dyes  it  him  self  lot  cheaper  then  buys  it  from  a  fly  shop  ....yes  guys  i  am  off  on  a  adventour!  but  promise  to  return  soon .
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Oct 20, 2010, 07:58 PM
estaz   is  a  great   material   adam    with  alot   more  uses   then  just   egg  flys  !  i  just  it  in  a  lot  of  patterns.   friend  gets  it  by  the   bolt  then  dyes  it  him  self  lot  cheaper  then  buys  it  from  a  fly  shop  ....yes  guys  i  am  off  on  a  adventour!  but  promise  to  return  soon .
I'm gonna go to the river and hit a few salmon over the head with a guitar  :whistling: :whistling: ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 20, 2010, 08:01 PM
  that  will  work  too...you  got  a  guitar  flie!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Oct 20, 2010, 08:02 PM
  that  will  work  too
It's your guitar !   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Oct 20, 2010, 08:16 PM
you too old farts are missing out on the Zebra runs boys right now ??? ??? ??? even you guys could see them in that dirty water  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Trapper i hope you  are into some GOOD fish ::) ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Oct 20, 2010, 08:39 PM
you too old farts are missing out on the Zebra runs boys right now ??? ??? ??? even you guys could see them in that dirty water  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Trapper i hope you  are into some GOOD fish ::) ::)
I'll be up there Friday morning !  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 21, 2010, 02:12 AM
How do you cook those mussels? In Marinara?

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 21, 2010, 09:00 AM
its all up to mr 10pt buddy, if he comes in 30yrds, then game over end of story, did you get out for the youth duck hunt?
Soccer plays games with his openers every season ADAM!!! But, can't take soccer away from him, that is his 1st passion!!!! We'll get him out, there's a nice blind on one of Oneidas bays!!!! ::) Gonna have to try it out!!!! Tightlines!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Oct 22, 2010, 10:58 PM
Traveled to route 31 in Clay tonight to pick up plumbing supplies at the Lowes there. (Repaired a leaky drain for the in-laws). I noticed at the end of that plaza.... A store called Hobby Lobby, or something like that. Never seen it before, as I don't venture out that way often anymore. Man, it looked like a good sized store from the outside. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Also is it like a craft store,or a toy hobby store? I'm thinking that it may be a great place to buy tieing materials in bulk.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Oct 23, 2010, 12:03 AM
Traveled to route 31 in Clay tonight to pick up plumbing supplies at the Lowes there. (Repaired a leaky drain for the in-laws). I noticed at the end of that plaza.... A store called Hobby Lobby, or something like that. Never seen it before, as I don't venture out that way often anymore. Man, it looked like a good sized store from the outside. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Also is it like a craft store,or a toy hobby store? I'm thinking that it may be a great place to buy tieing materials in bulk.
Great store !   You can find some tying materials there but mainly it's just basic colors of feathers, beads etc.    It's always fun to stroll through and discover something on the shelves that you can use to catch fish though !  ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 23, 2010, 03:04 AM
He'll be cruising the nail polish aisles next ...."Once bitten!"  ::)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 26, 2010, 02:49 PM
fabric  paint!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 26, 2010, 04:59 PM
SSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 26, 2010, 06:35 PM
hey  with  all  the  local  geese    it's  easy  to  get   goose  feathers   for   wing  cases  ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: troutmaster on Oct 26, 2010, 07:11 PM
IF you guys wanna see a cool thing to do with fabric paint <go check out www.flytyingcontest.com and look up my fly called 3DC ,i think you will like what you see ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 26, 2010, 08:19 PM
very  nice   daniel  ....  i   often  use  the    fabric   paint  to  add  a  little  flavor  to  stone   flies  a   simply   drop  of  green,  pink ,  or  whatever  on  the   wing  case  often  sets  the  fly   apart .  very   nice  fly ...you  should  have  RG   message  you  on how  to post  pictures    and  welcome  aboard!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Oct 28, 2010, 06:44 PM
Next time I get over there, I will stop in and check out the "not so manly" Isles then, god only can guess what I will come home with! :wacko: I promise to make ya's all proud though. My focus as of late have been these fall Waldo's though.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Nov 04, 2010, 08:35 AM
season  is  getting  late   boys!  and  it's  been  one  of my  best ,not  just  in numbers  of  fish  but  from  all the   new  friends  i have  met  on  here,it's  true  smiles  are contagious  and  nowhere  is  this more  true  then  fishermen!  i  have  enjoyed  this  thread,  the  laughing  and  the  joking,but  also i have  enjoyed  the  renewed  enthusiasm  i  have  seen ...from  the  begginer  to  the  pro  (  pro  is  a  loose  term  here )  the  tying  tips  we  have  shared , the  excitement  we  have  experanced  when  another  got  a  new  boat  or  tried a  new  fly,and  the  laughter  we all shared  with  the  humorist  side  of  fishing!  yes   gents  it's been  my  best  season  ever  ,and  you all played a  part  in  it  ...we  found  the  comman  ground  which  we  can  all  stand  on!  fishing  and then  fish  expanded  reaching  into  other  aspects  of  out  lifes....  yup  great  season!

 it's  not  over  tho  boys!  right  now  i assure  you  bluegills  are  still pounding  nymphs!  steelies  and  browns  are  on the  bite and  my  rod  is  not  in  it's  case .the  bench  will  soon  see  alot  more  action  as  the  weather  cools ,and  memorys  of  this  season  will  dash  threw  my head  as i  ty flies  i really  don't  need!

 my  next  work  will  be  weighted  nymphs  i  us  icefishing  !  i have  found  a  small  bead  head  hares  ear  tied  very lose  and  baited  with a  spike  or  mousie  will take  bluegils  crappies  and  perch  when  nothing  else  will!  the  jig  blanks  are  sitting there with  powderpaint  .....  ice  blanks  to  be  tied  too!!!!

now  every  season  i like  to  be  able  to  do a  summeroy  in my  journal on  what  i  learned ...this  year  ...SHARING   BROTHERHOOD    and  that we all  share  a comman  love
                                                                                                                                                               life  is  good!!!!  enjoy  it!

                                                                                                                                                              god  bless  TRAPP








     
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Nov 04, 2010, 08:42 AM
very well put Trapper. hey dont forget to try and copy my favorite ice jigs. remember the picture i sent you a while back. 4mm is the perfect size.  ;) 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Nov 04, 2010, 12:19 PM
season  is  getting  late   boys!  and  it's  been  one  of my  best ,not  just  in numbers  of  fish  but  from  all the   new  friends  i have  met  on  here,it's  true  smiles  are contagious  and  nowhere  is  this more  true  then  fishermen!  i  have  enjoyed  this  thread,  the  laughing  and  the  joking,but  also i have  enjoyed  the  renewed  enthusiasm  i  have  seen ...from  the  begginer  to  the  pro  (  pro  is  a  loose  term  here )  the  tying  tips  we  have  shared , the  excitement  we  have  experanced  when  another  got  a  new  boat  or  tried a  new  fly,and  the  laughter  we all shared  with  the  humorist  side  of  fishing!  yes   gents  it's been  my  best  season  ever  ,and  you all played a  part  in  it  ...we  found  the  comman  ground  which  we  can  all  stand  on!  fishing  and then  fish  expanded  reaching  into  other  aspects  of  out  lifes....  yup  great  season!

 it's  not  over  tho  boys!  right  now  i assure  you  bluegills  are  still pounding  nymphs!  steelies  and  browns  are  on the  bite and  my  rod  is  not  in  it's  case .the  bench  will  soon  see  alot  more  action  as  the  weather  cools ,and  memorys  of  this  season  will  dash  threw  my head  as i  ty flies  i really  don't  need!

 my  next  work  will  be  weighted  nymphs  i  us  icefishing  !  i have  found  a  small  bead  head  hares  ear  tied  very lose  and  baited  with a  spike  or  mousie  will take  bluegils  crappies  and  perch  when  nothing  else  will!  the  jig  blanks  are  sitting there with  powderpaint  .....  ice  blanks  to  be  tied  too!!!!

now  every  season  i like  to  be  able  to  do a  summeroy  in my  journal on  what  i  learned ...this  year  ...SHARING   BROTHERHOOD    and  that we all  share  a comman  love
                                                                                                                                                               life  is  good!!!!  enjoy  it!

                                                                                                                                                              god  bless  TRAPP








     
Put the cap back on the jug before you hurt yourself ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Nov 04, 2010, 12:19 PM
Put the cap back on the jug before you hurt yourself ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
:w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 04, 2010, 04:28 PM
I was gonna type some lachrymose response :'( , but....I've had a bunch of fun with this thread too. I did more fly fishing this year than in the last 10, largely in part to good conversation with other like-minded people.

I'm kinda in a transition now. I'm ready to hammer the perch, but I've been dedicating time to my sorely neglected gun collection. My little Sako Vixen .223 is getting a much needed makeover and my other goodies are clean as new.

Anyways,
Thanks guys. This was fun....even with Gamma kicking around ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Nov 04, 2010, 07:12 PM
I was gonna type some lachrymose response :'( , but....I've had a bunch of fun with this thread too. I did more fly fishing this year than in the last 10, largely in part to good conversation with other like-minded people.

I'm kinda in a transition now. I'm ready to hammer the perch, but I've been dedicating time to my sorely neglected gun collection. My little Sako Vixen .223 is getting a much needed makeover and my other goodies are clean as new.

Anyways,
Thanks guys. This was fun....even with Gamma kicking around ;D

RG
Could I interest you in a pair of early Sako Finnbears....One in .308 and the other a custom barreled .264 Ackley Improved ?  :whistling: :whistling: :whistling:
   Actually, I'd never part with them !    Had both since the mid 70's when I was a young lad !   Plus, the .264 AI is a very nice Taliban eradicator ! ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 05, 2010, 02:37 AM
No thanks. I barely have time to think about the toys I have now, The Vixen was my Father-in-law's.Near as I can tell , it was purchased in 1961.  Left to me when he passed. It's such a sweet shooting fire arm. Sub MOA at 200 yds...(with the right reloads ;D)

It's a chuck, fox and Yote eradicator. I've had a 6.5 x 20, 50mm Night Forces scope to mount on it for about 5 years now. The stock was in need of inletting and bedding. Perfect time to refinish. Time I get it done.

Heck...I might even go shoot it :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Nov 05, 2010, 10:10 PM
season  is  getting  late   boys!  and  it's  been  one  of my  best ,not  just  in numbers  of  fish  but  from  all the   new  friends  i have  met  on  here,it's  true  smiles  are contagious  and  nowhere  is  this more  true  then  fishermen!  i  have  enjoyed  this  thread,  the  laughing  and  the  joking,but  also i have  enjoyed  the  renewed  enthusiasm  i  have  seen ...from  the  begginer  to  the  pro  (  pro  is  a  loose  term  here )  the  tying  tips  we  have  shared , the  excitement  we  have  experanced  when  another  got  a  new  boat  or  tried a  new  fly,and  the  laughter  we all shared  with  the  humorist  side  of  fishing!  yes   gents  it's been  my  best  season  ever  ,and  you all played a  part  in  it  ...we  found  the  comman  ground  which  we  can  all  stand  on!  fishing  and then  fish  expanded  reaching  into  other  aspects  of  out  lifes....  yup  great  season!

 it's  not  over  tho  boys!  right  now  i assure  you  bluegills  are  still pounding  nymphs!  steelies  and  browns  are  on the  bite and  my  rod  is  not  in  it's  case .the  bench  will  soon  see  alot  more  action  as  the  weather  cools ,and  memorys  of  this  season  will  dash  threw  my head  as i  ty flies  i really  don't  need!

Well spoken Trapp.! I agree on all comments made. If I had not crossed paths with the likes of you guy's, I now fl my life would have been left incomplete and cheated. ;) :P You bunch of old farts
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 my  next  work  will  be  weighted  nymphs  i  us  icefishing  !  i have  found  a  small  bead  head  hares  ear  tied  very lose  and  baited  with a  spike  or  mousie  will take  bluegils  crappies  and  perch  when  nothing  else  will!  the  jig  blanks  are  sitting there with  powderpaint  .....  ice  blanks  to  be  tied  too!!!!

now  every  season  i like  to  be  able  to  do a  summeroy  in my  journal on  what  i  learned ...this  year  ...SHARING   BROTHERHOOD    and  that we all  share  a comman  love
                                                                                                                                                               life  is  good!!!!  enjoy  it!

                                                                                                                                                              god  bless  TRAPP








      
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Nov 11, 2010, 07:13 AM
Almost a week since FM posted last. Thought I'd stop in to see where our two favorite OLD FARTS are hiding!!! You know who you are!! ::) ::) If your still fishing, that's fine... If your ill, that's not fine!... Check in from time to time to let all of us know your still with us!!!!!! ;) Hate to see a great thread go down!!! Titelines Gents!!!!--KP 8)  Just hope you two have some great stories to share upon your return!!! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 11, 2010, 04:15 PM
I've been playing with my Grandson. He and his mom (my baby) are visiting for a week. We went to Chimney Bluffs today.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/chimneybluffs011.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/chimneybluffs009.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/chimneybluffs007.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/chimneybluffs015.jpg)

Awesome place.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Nov 11, 2010, 04:16 PM
wow is the fishing so good that Trapper does not even check in at all for weeks at a time  ??? RG is working so i know he is still alive anyway. Trapper was supposed to take me on a pan fish rampage last Monday and Tuesday but he still has not surfused with the sub marine yet. god DA* old farts anyway.  ??? ??? ??? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Nov 11, 2010, 04:20 PM
I've been playing with my Grandson. He and his mom (my baby) are visiting for a week. We went to Chimney Bluffs today.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/chimneybluffs011.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/chimneybluffs009.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/chimneybluffs007.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/chimneybluffs015.jpg)

Awesome place.

RG
Looks like RG is spending good quality time with family!!!! Great pics RG!!! Have a great time with your grandson!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Nov 11, 2010, 06:01 PM
Sweet RG!! I'm waiting for my grandson to want to go with grampa. A couple years probably.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Nov 12, 2010, 12:59 AM
Great pics RG.....floated around the "Bluffs" a couple times myself. A familiar pic is always warming. ;) Just checking in before I cash in. Lets keep this great thread moving along gents!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Nov 12, 2010, 05:26 AM
I will be out here in Feb. The season is never to late.
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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Nov 12, 2010, 05:28 AM
you can have the river bud  ::) ::) i will be walking on water and putting my fish in a bucket instead of a stringer  ;D ;D ;D ice baby ice bring it on  ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Simplecarppieguy on Nov 12, 2010, 05:38 AM
I will be out here in Feb. The season is never to late.
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I'll be with ya leroy!! :afro:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Nov 12, 2010, 07:03 AM
you can have the river bud  ::) ::) i will be walking on water and putting my fish in a bucket instead of a stringer  ;D ;D ;D ice baby ice bring it on  ;D ;D
HT, GAMMA just PM'd me and said...and I quote..." HT Couldn't even fill a stringer if he went ice fishing" end of quote!!! LMAO!!! Had to put my .02  in!!! END OF SORY!!--KP 8) Bring On the ice, ice baby!! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Nov 12, 2010, 07:06 AM
Bla Bla Bla from that old man anyway. oh dont worry hes got one coming when we get out on the ice. Boy i hope he likes stink logs  :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :w00t: :afro: :evil: :evil: :sick: ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Nov 12, 2010, 07:15 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Nov 12, 2010, 07:21 AM
I like to have both worlds. Living on the Broadhead  give me that. I can go out for 15min and catch fish. There is a lake on the way home . I keep a jigging rod and scoop in my Jimmy . Most guys have left when I get there,so I fish there holes. ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Nov 12, 2010, 07:30 AM
 :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Nov 12, 2010, 10:31 AM
Bla Bla Bla from that old man anyway. oh dont worry hes got one coming when we get out on the ice. Boy i hope he likes stink logs  :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :w00t: :afro: :evil: :evil: :sick: ;D
Quit your fanasizing Zippy ! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Nov 12, 2010, 12:04 PM
I wonder if Ol' GAMMA has a basket ball hoop HT???? :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :evil:--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Nov 13, 2010, 03:17 AM
I wonder if Ol' GAMMA has a basket ball hoop HT???? :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :evil:--KP ;D
a tree will work just fine  :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Nov 13, 2010, 08:38 AM
I was thinking more like his doorknob!!! :w00t:--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Nov 13, 2010, 05:13 PM
I was thinking more like his doorknob!!! :w00t:--KP 8)
i caught 2 slime darts today and frank got 3  >:( >:( no hanging for those today  :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: did get some nice crappies and some gills. what a great day to be out on the water. good times to say the least just to relax and enjoy if you know what i mean  8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Nov 13, 2010, 05:17 PM
i caught 2 slime darts today and frank got 3  >:( >:( no hanging for those today  :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: did get some nice crappies and some gills. what a great day to be out on the water. good times to say the least just to relax and enjoy if you know what i mean  8)
Uh.....Pictures ??     We miss your smile ! :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Nov 13, 2010, 05:21 PM
Uh.....Pictures ??     We miss your smile ! :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D
well i did not want you to feel bad. but i think you just might see some put up by my partner soon  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* hows my buddy Gamma doing these days ??? i stopped by FM,S shop and you were not in your chair ??? ???
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 13, 2010, 05:33 PM
FM probably threw his sorry, doughnut eating, coffee swilling butt out the door,

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Nov 13, 2010, 05:42 PM
FM probably threw his sorry, doughnut eating, coffee swilling butt out the door,

RG

 :w00t: :w00t: :rotflol: :rotflol: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 13, 2010, 06:57 PM
Just a guess, but it was a sure bet ;D

Sorry "T"

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Nov 13, 2010, 07:16 PM
I've never seen ya "slam" much RG, but ya sure make it count when ya do, thanks for the humor!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Nov 13, 2010, 11:53 PM
Just a guess, but it was a sure bet ;D

Sorry "T"

RG
Don't forget, you'll have to deal with the wrath of Gamma for 3 days during the Icefishing show.........and it won't be pretty  ;D ;D ;D
  Especially if those Christian Brothers girls are there again  :o :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 14, 2010, 03:40 AM
Well, you'll have to find me in the crowd, cause I'm not doing the show this year ;D
But......I'll find you when I visit.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Nov 14, 2010, 12:01 PM
Well, you'll have to find me in the crowd, cause I'm not doing the show this year ;D
But......I'll find you when I visit.

RG
It'll be good to see you "on the other side of the fence" for a change  ;D ;D ;D
  Maybe we can round up some of the old crew and track down those Christian Brothers girls and then have a little Meet & Great the Bayside way ! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 14, 2010, 02:38 PM
Maybe we'll do the second "No Rules" tourney at I-Bay. The first one was a riot.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Nov 14, 2010, 05:42 PM
Maybe we'll do the second "No Rules" tourney at I-Bay. The first one was a riot.

RG
All I remember is waking up in my van.........late at night  :whistling: :whistling: :wacko: :wacko: ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 15, 2010, 03:30 PM
Somewhere I have some pics of "The Infamous One" in his shanty hammering the white perch in the midst of 50 fishless anglers. ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: eyedoktr on Nov 15, 2010, 03:51 PM
Maybe we'll do the second "No Rules" tourney at I-Bay. The first one was a riot.

RG

It was a great time that day. Beautiful weather, some fish, and lots of cold beer and hot food at the Bayside.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 15, 2010, 04:36 PM
What do you think Doc...should we give it another go this year? The kids had a ball that day as well as the adults. Might require a "therapy session" to discuss the details ;D

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: eyedoktr on Nov 15, 2010, 04:47 PM
What do you think Doc...should we give it another go this year? The kids had a ball that day as well as the adults. Might require a "therapy session" to discuss the details ;D

RG



Let's do it ! As long as I know enough ahead of time I can be sure I'm not working (if I'm still employed by then). I'm sure I can round up some "awards".
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 15, 2010, 05:46 PM
We better meet at the Bayside and "check their schedule".

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: eyedoktr on Nov 15, 2010, 08:06 PM
We better meet at the Bayside and "check their schedule".

RG

If you insist.  :D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Nov 15, 2010, 08:17 PM
Don't forget, you'll have to deal with the wrath of Gamma for 3 days during the Icefishing show.........and it won't be pretty  ;D ;D ;D
  Especially if those Christian Brothers girls are there again  :o :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D

3 months ago I began mentally preparing myself for  "three days of Gamma"...

RG - I do seem to remember you were prety upset how the CB Girls were set-up right by where I spent alot of time "posted up" working the show. They were actually very nice "good" girls. It sure was funny watching how the guys were around them, lol...
Actually, they were from out Rochester way...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Nov 16, 2010, 12:56 AM
Somewhere I have some pics of "The Infamous One" in his shanty hammering the white perch in the midst of 50 fishless anglers. ;D

RG
That could be a number of characters from the old days ! ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D

3 months ago I began mentally preparing myself for  "three days of Gamma"...

RG - I do seem to remember you were prety upset how the CB Girls were set-up right by where I spent alot of time "posted up" working the show. They were actually very nice "good" girls. It sure was funny watching how the guys were around them, lol...
Actually, they were from out Rochester way...
Only 3 months ?  :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: ;D ;D ;D       I don't know if Skip will be there this year but I'll bring the cheese and horseradish...........you bring the venison summer sausage and crackers  ;) ;)         and water.......lots of water ! :o :o :o


I'm in ! ;) ;) ;D
We better meet at the Bayside and "check their schedule".

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 16, 2010, 05:46 PM
That could be a number of characters from the old days ! ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D

Nah....only you could fit that moniker.

Actually, I'm impressed that you survived the whole summer here. You've been a very good boy. Maybe I'll have to buy you that "Chili Bowl" I owe you.  ;D

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: eyedoktr on Nov 16, 2010, 08:03 PM
Nah....only you could fit that moniker.

Actually, I'm impressed that you survived the whole summer here. You've been a very good boy. Maybe I'll have to buy you that "Chili Bowl" I owe you.  ;D

RG



I'd say it was maturity but I've known him long enough to know better.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Nov 17, 2010, 01:47 AM
Nah....only you could fit that moniker. You could call me the "Jig Messiah"  :^)     Hey it worked for Obama  ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D

Actually, I'm impressed that you survived the whole summer here. You've been a very good boy. Maybe I'll have to buy you that "Chili Bowl" I owe you.  ;D   Or two !! ;D ;D

RG
 ;D


I'd say it was maturity but I've known him long enough to know better.  :D :D :D
And I'm sure could tell when my head was ready to explode from trying to hold back ! :o :o ;D ;D ;D
  Since my father died 2 years ago, I've mellowed out quite a bit................................although, the demon tries to show it's head from time to  time but a few drinks and I'm calm as a lamb  :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :angel: :whistling:

 When was the last time you saw me lose control ?   Not counting Sunday, Thursday,Wednesday and Monday of last week  :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 17, 2010, 02:16 AM
Even cheap bourbon mellows with age ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Nov 17, 2010, 01:37 PM
3 months ago I began mentally preparing myself for  "three days of Gamma"...

RG - I do seem to remember you were prety upset how the CB Girls were set-up right by where I spent alot of time "posted up" working the show. They were actually very nice "good" girls. It sure was funny watching how the guys were around them, lol...
Actually, they were from out Rochester way...
Your a brave soul DC!!!! I'm with GAMMA for 3 minutes and he drives me nutz!!!! LOL!! He ain't that bad!!! :whistling:--KP 8)

RG, For some unknown reason, I don't think GAMMA needs CHILI buddy!! Or venison sausage and horseradish!!!!! :sick: :sick: :sick: :rotflol:--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 18, 2010, 01:56 AM
Hey, I don't have to ride in the "Familty Truckster" with him :sick:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Nov 18, 2010, 07:21 AM
Even cheap bourbon mellows with age ;D

RG
    Speaking of cheap bourbon.......have you tried the new Evan Williams Cherry Bourbon ?? :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :flag: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: ;)


Your a brave soul DC!!!! I'm with GAMMA for 3 minutes and he drives me nutz!!!! LOL!! He ain't that bad!!! :whistling:--KP 8)

 For some unknown reason, I don't think GAMMA needs CHILI buddy!! Or venison sausage and horseradish!!!!! :sick: :sick: :sick: :rotflol:--KP 8)
   I don't even come close to D.C. on that topic !    His other name is R.C.......................Stands for "Room Clearing"  :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:


Hey, I don't have to ride in the "Familty Truckster" with him :sick:

RG
Those extra seats are reserved for Dignitarians anyway..... :whistling: :whistling: ;D


Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Nov 19, 2010, 07:50 PM
what???????????  i  get  back  and  gamma  is  behaving??????  i  won't  hear  of  that!  i  perfer  gamma  mouthy  and  opinionated ....  besides  he's  never boring ....now  gamma  i  had a  oppertunity  to  check  out  what  someone  called a lazer  tail ...thats  L A Z E R  as  dr  evil  would  say ...very  cool  fly  for  steelhead   but  after  our  day on  the ice last  year  and  seeing  your  plastics  in  action    the  materal  reminded  me  of  the  action  your  jigs  had  that  day ..... see where i'm going with this ....i think  some  60  or  120  jig  heads  and  a  little  work  this  stuff would  be  kick  .....  hmmmm you know .... most interesting  thing  i  caught  bass  on  top  during  snow  flurrys  ...yes  i'm  havng  freash walleye  for  diner  and  get this  ...all  caught  on  the  fly  rod  ....  i will  be  posting  patterns  and  storys   this week  ....  there  are  no more  bluegills  upnorth  ...i have  totally  wiped them  out  .....  with  the  fly  rod ...  hey  do  you know  why you  don't  use  a  center  pin  to  fish  for  bluegills????  there too small  to  lift  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Nov 19, 2010, 07:52 PM
p s    good  to  see  smiles  man  !!!! after i kill  another  deer in  the  morning  i'll be  doing ice  jigs
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Nov 19, 2010, 11:54 PM
p s    good  to  see  smiles  man  !!!! after i kill  another  deer in  the  morning  i'll be  doing ice  jigs
the holding tank for deer is wide opne in the garage sir  ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Nov 20, 2010, 08:30 AM
p s    good  to  see  smiles  man  !!!! after i kill  another  deer in  the  morning  i'll be  doing ice  jigs
Good to see your back Trap!! :) ;) Iv'e got a bagful of nice 3 DOT GLOW JIGS  for those jigs you wanna make up...WEll, Just say I've got access to 3 DOT GLOW JIGS!!!! :whistling: They are sweeeeeeeeeeeet!! Titelines Gents!! I'm sure you know first hand that you can't line a bluegill!!!!! ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Nov 20, 2010, 08:34 AM
Anyone use the new sharkskin line. I have two 4wts. One I have had for two years and the loop is splitting. I wrote the company ,and waiting for a reply.They say it last 3 times longer then any other. I love the line ,but for $100.00 It should last atleast 5 years.  ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Nov 20, 2010, 01:47 PM
sharkskin  cast  better ,picks  up better  and last  longer.....  hundred  bucks  tho  ....you  have  to  decide  if it's  worth it .....  i think so
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 20, 2010, 01:52 PM
I came close to buying one till a trusted friend brought up the point that the surface tends to collect more dirt than a smooth fly line which may cause it to wear out prematurely. More surface area, more opportunity.  Could be he was correct.

Anyway, I went with a Cortland line. I've never been disappointed with their products. I have one that's over 20 years old and still serviceable.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 20, 2010, 01:57 PM
I've heard of those jigs KP. Someone told me they hard to get hold of. I'd sure like to see a couple of those :whistling:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Nov 20, 2010, 02:14 PM
I've heard of those jigs KP. Someone told me they hard to get hold of. I'd sure like to see a couple of those :whistling:

RG
Your jig box would be a good place to start looking  :P :P ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 20, 2010, 02:31 PM
Spoilsport....I was just trying to stock up a little ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Nov 20, 2010, 03:10 PM
Hey RG, Once I get my "stockpile", I'll be sure to get some extra....He'll have to turn his back at some point!!!! :P :P You'll be "stocked" up for sure ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Nov 20, 2010, 03:19 PM
Hey RG, Once I get my "stockpile", I'll be sure to get some extra....He'll have to turn his back at some point!!!! :P :P You'll be "stocked" up for sure ;)--KP 8)
I've got eyes in the back of my head.    After years of fishing with Dark Cloud, I've become an expert at jig box security ! :whistling: :whistling: :police: ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 20, 2010, 03:20 PM
I'm an addict for sure, but I've got plenty to last a while. "T" is, if nothing else, generous.


How's that for suckin' up :angel:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Nov 20, 2010, 04:52 PM
I've got eyes in the back of my head.    After years of fishing with Dark Cloud, I've become an expert at jig box security ! :whistling: :whistling: :police: ;D

Im not nearly as bad as I used to be... 5-10 years ago I had to have 10 of every jig EVER made! The last year or two I became a simpleton and maybe used 6-8 diff jigs all winter.  I think I traded in my jig problem for a Maki plastic problem though. Sure I like to paint my own just to have some jigs that nobody besides RG has.  :whistling: But  fancy colors and paint dosnt catch fish, it may give you confidence which is huge but presentation and strike detection is what gets it done...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 20, 2010, 04:57 PM
And I ain't showin' no one  ;D

Nothing like a secret weapon!
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Nov 20, 2010, 05:10 PM
Oh, and seeing as though this is a Fly Guy thread with some icefisherman around...
The past few winters I have been beating on shallow panfish with the flyreels. They are light, drags are awesome, and line retrieval rates are almost as good as spinning reels. And the biggest advantage of all - no line twist! Just some food for thought...
(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/1791/003yw.jpg)
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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 20, 2010, 05:19 PM
Look at you go....could make it feel like summer. Any hangups on the back cast ???

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Nov 20, 2010, 05:27 PM
No problems with the backcast, just keep your loops open...
Actually what I did and alot of guys have been doing it to take the fly line off, fill with backing, then 50 yards of your normal ice line. Not a deep water rig but really shines in the 12 ft and shallower stuff...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 20, 2010, 05:31 PM
Ive always used an Uncle Bucks (or similar) for shallow water. I love to be outside with the 36" rod and a level wind. I'll have to try one of my fly reels.

Thanks for the idea. I'll see ya at the show.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Nov 20, 2010, 05:39 PM
I'm an addict for sure, but I've got plenty to last a while. "T" is, if nothing else, generous.


How's that for suckin' up :angel:

RG
Gotta say, you're as consistent as they come  ;D ;D ;D ;)
Oh, and seeing as though this is a Fly Guy thread with some icefisherman around...
The past few winters I have been beating on shallow panfish with the flyreels. They are light, drags are awesome, and line retrieval rates are almost as good as spinning reels. And the biggest advantage of all - no line twist! Just some food for thought...

(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4412/005bs.jpg)

Is that what I think it is down by your feet ?  ;D ;D      Rescued from the Chinese buffet ?? :whistling: :whistling: :rotflol: :rotflol:


Im not nearly as bad as I used to be... 5-10 years ago I had to have 10 of every jig EVER made! The last year or two I became a simpleton and maybe used 6-8 diff jigs all winter.  I think I traded in my jig problem for a Maki plastic problem though. Sure I like to paint my own just to have some jigs that nobody besides RG has.  :whistling: But  fancy colors and paint dosnt catch fish, it may give you confidence which is huge but presentation and strike detection is what gets it done...

But your addiction was 20X more than a normal guy so you're still sick.......................you've just come to admitting your problem recently  ;D    
     One day last winter, while walking out of Constantia, the thought came across my mind as to why I carried 30 pounds of jigs every time I hit the ice  ???   I came to the conclusion that it was too much weight so I left my lunch, heater, and all other unneccessary gear at home to lighten the load on the next trip  ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Nov 20, 2010, 05:46 PM
Oh, I still bring 30 pounds of jigs. Just realized I dont NEED them... Well maybe for balast. Yeah thats just what I need.  ;D

See ya in a few weeks RG...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Nov 28, 2010, 05:53 PM
dark  nice idea  i have  at least 20  single  action  flyreels  setting around!.... i  like  the 3 inch ht  circle reels  in shallow water  .....  as fr as  ice fishing ...what a  place to use some weighted nymphs!!!! .....shhhhh  loose tied  hares  ear  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Nov 28, 2010, 06:18 PM
Flies dont work through the ice... :cookoo:... only been pounding fish with them for about 30 years... but they dont work...  :whistling:  ;D

Chose a reel that you can silence the clicking. Wouldnt want the opportunist type honeing in on that sound, lol  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Nov 28, 2010, 06:21 PM
Flies dont work through the ice... :cookoo:... only been pounding fish with them for about 30 years... but they dont work...  :whistling:  ;D

Chose a reel that you can silence the clicking. Wouldnt want the oppourtunist type honeing in on that sound, lol  ;D
hey Trapper now Gammas brother is here in full force on here and ice shanty. we need to go to the ice show for some free food and get paid for our ice fishing info ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D gotta love the up coming ice season :P :P
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Nov 28, 2010, 06:30 PM
hey Trapper now Gammas brother is here in full force on here and ice shanty. we need to go to the ice show for some free food and get paid for our ice fishing info ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D gotta love the up coming ice season :P :P

Easy there Sparky... brother? Thats almost funny. I've probably been banned from IS more times than youv'e had usefull posts...  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Nov 28, 2010, 06:31 PM
no  worrys  dark  cloud  ain't my  first  rodeo  ...clicking ...i  don't reel i lift  ....the  ole  gamma  knows  what i'm  saying   :rotflol:  and  ya  been  useing nymphs  on the ice  for  30 years ...sorry i  didn't realize  you were a  novice  ...stick  around  i'll  show ya  how  it's  done

                                                                                                                               life  is  good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Nov 28, 2010, 06:37 PM
Easy there Sparky... brother? Thats almost funny. I've probably been banned from IS more times than youv'e had usefull posts...  ;D
usefull posts you will not see many of those with you guys anyway ??? ??? ( you know my freinds  :-* :-*) i try to be- have for the most part. Me and Trapper will see you at the show i think. i have not told him that we are going yet thats all. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Nov 28, 2010, 06:37 PM
...i  don't reel i lift  ....sorry i  didn't realize  you were a  novice  ...                                                                                                   

Aaaahhhhh, the ol Big gay Bay pirate lift. Can you put a fish in your pail without barely flinching or lifting off the bucket more than 5/8ths of an inch? And how bout the "pirate glare" - you know the look you get on the bay if you catch a fish withing 20 yards of someone.  ;D

Gammas the only novice around here. Since the internet and his new recliner his icetime is almost nil...  :whistling:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Nov 28, 2010, 06:42 PM
Aaaahhhhh, the ol Big gay Bay pirate lift. Can you put a fish in your pail without barely flinching or lifting off the bucket more than 5/8ths of an inch? And how bout the "pirate glare" - you know the look you get on the bay if you catch a fish withing 20 yards of someone.  ;D

Gammas the only novice around here. Since the internet and his new recliner his icetime is almost nil...  :whistling:
oh boy Trapper and to think i was going to put up the chest wadders already  ::) ::) :wacko: :wacko: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :blink: :evil: holy crap is it time to go over to the shanty already. you boys-( and yes i mean you and Gamma ) have no idea what is coming this ice season.  ::) ::) ::) GOOD LUCK  :-* :-* :-* :-* Gotta love it because its better then christmas is it not ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Nov 28, 2010, 06:46 PM
Lets hope for some THICK ice soon.......Cause the crap around here is THICKER than one man can handle! ::) ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Nov 28, 2010, 06:49 PM
i  bet i'll  be  the  first  one  on the  ice  lol  and i  just  as  soon  as  fish out  of  the  boat ....  thats  ok  good  perch  bite  going  ,walleyes  are  on  fire  ,and  the  gills  are  staged  on a feed  and   people  are  worried  about  big  bay ....i love  it  ...ht  the  slim jims  are  awesome!
                                                                                                                              life  is good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Nov 28, 2010, 06:50 PM
lance  howdy  buddy!!!!! 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Nov 28, 2010, 06:58 PM
Trap - I hope your the first safely on the ice... but if you are then i'll be a close second. Last year I got on the 15th and the year before the 5th of dec. It gets cold in the valleys down here  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Nov 28, 2010, 07:02 PM
HEllo back to ya Mr.Rick..........Hope life has been treating ya well?  ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Nov 29, 2010, 02:44 AM
hey Trapper now Gammas brother is here in full force on here and ice shanty. Zippy.  You have no clue who and what you're messing with :^)    You just may become this winters whipping boy and practical joke target !!
 we need to go to the ice show for some free food and get paid for our ice fishing info ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D Only way that will ever happen is if you stand outside and play a harmonica for quarters or hold up a sign that says...."Will make believe I know what I'm talking about for food"    :^)  gotta love the up coming ice season :P :P
Zippy.  As hard as you try, you'll never get to the levels that DC, Fillet and I have been to  ;D ;D ;D 
  DC and I were once the leaders of a gang called the R.K.G.    Masters of Disaster so to speak but in a good way!     You're looking more and more like a season long target every day !   ;D ;D ;D ;D   
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Nov 29, 2010, 02:49 AM
usefull posts you will not see many of those with you guys anyway ??? ??? Huh ???      Did you bang your head again ?( you know my freinds  :-* :-*) i try to be- have for the most part. Me and Trapper will see you at the show i think. i have not told him that we are going yet thats all. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*Go around to the back door of the OnCenter.  That's the celebrity entrance !   :^)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Nov 29, 2010, 01:09 PM
Zippy.  As hard as you try, you'll never get to the levels that DC, Fillet and I have been to  ;D ;D ;D 
  DC and I were once the leaders of a gang called the R.K.G.    Masters of Disaster so to speak but in a good way!     You're looking more and more like a season long target every day !   ;D ;D ;D ;D   
yep i knew that comment was coming ::) ::) ::) well with the amount of time that you have spent out on the water fishing this past year you might as well just move over because your getting surpassed just so you know :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: thats OK you keep talking about the the good old days and i will just keep catching fish. MAYBE just MAYBE we will see you out on the ice  ??? ??? i saw your boat over at the shop. you might want to get a cover for that thing and next spring you might want to check to see if the da* thing even floats  :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Nov 30, 2010, 01:26 AM
What the Heck happened to this thread? ??? We let the argumentive mouth all mighty's go rampant on us once again. So much for one of my favorite threads on this site!

Notice.... Ya tards, No one else makes a post when this thread gets hijacked with nonsense? Geez, how many threads can we turn into a piss fest or a slam parade? I'm gonna start a thread for you guys that wanna slam each other.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 30, 2010, 01:59 AM
You may want to rename your substitute thread. Something tells me it won't last too long. There's kids around eh?

I'm still tying flies. I'm starting on some experimental ice flies.

After I get my firearm collection serviced and my reloading stuff set up, it will be on to building rods. I have a feeling safe ice is still a ways off in my area and the weather has stunk for boat fishing.  FM, are you going to the Show in Syracuse? I'll be down there Saturday afternoon.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Nov 30, 2010, 02:05 AM
Gonna try to make it to the Show Rg.....Hard part, is my shop is open on Saturdays till 2:00.
What are the hours of the show? Funny, that none of our local papers have done any Advertising yet? :-\
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 30, 2010, 05:19 PM
Show Hours

Friday: 4pm - 9pm
Saturday: 10am - 7pm
Sunday: 10am - 4pm

Hang out the "Gone Buyin' Fishin' Stuff" sign ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 30, 2010, 05:25 PM
Thanks for altering the name of that other thread.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Nov 30, 2010, 11:20 PM
Thanks for the hours of the show, and looking out for me in a very respectable manner.....regarding my choice of wording on the new thread. :o ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Dec 01, 2010, 11:21 AM
What the Heck happened to this thread? ??? We let the argumentive mouth all mighty's go rampant on us once again. So much for one of my favorite threads on this site!

Notice.... Ya tards, No one else makes a post when this thread gets hijacked with nonsense? Geez, how many threads can we turn into a ****censored word**** fest or a slam parade? I'm gonna start a thread for you guys that wanna slam each other.
I'm going to request that you refrain from posting anything after 10 PM..........................for obvious reasons  :wacko: :unsure: :blink: :cookoo: :sleep1: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: ;D
   98% of the posts on this thread are by 5 or 6 people........................and all very informative  :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: ;D ;D

 You're too young to be in this thread anyway !   Can't you read ? ;D ;D ;D  It says OLD F_RTS ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Dec 01, 2010, 12:04 PM
rg  from past  experances  scuds  stone  flies  and  HARES EARS!!!!  most  times  ya  can  fun them like a teaser  8 to 12  inches above  you jig  however  when fish are turned  off  a  single weighted  fly ...  just  let it  drop   natural  to a  few inches of the bottom ....let  it set  for  30  seconds to a minute!  raise it up  3 inches  jig lightly ....   ;D this  works  on  perch  crappies and  tight lip bull bluegills!  small is the  key  and  add 1  spike  ..... now  what  date  is  the  ice  show? i  will try to get up there  but   the  perch  are  going!!!!  and  theres  still some  hunting left  ....

                                                                                                                                                       life  is  good


   rg on a  good  perch bite  a  few  size  10's  dressed  with  krystal  flash  and   spikes  or  eyes  really  can  add  weight to the  bucket  ....

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Dec 01, 2010, 03:33 PM
I'm going to request that you refrain from posting anything after 10 PM..........................for obvious reasons  :wacko: :unsure: :blink: :cookoo: :sleep1: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: ;D
   98% of the posts on this thread are by 5 or 6 people........................and all very informative  :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: ;D ;D

 You're too young to be in this thread anyway !   Can't you read ? ;D ;D ;D  It says OLD F_RTS ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
SOOOOOO, I am a Jr. Jr. Jr.  Buzzard!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Dec 01, 2010, 04:39 PM
SOOOOOO, I am a Jr. Jr. Jr.  Buzzard!!!!
yes  8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 01, 2010, 05:13 PM
Thanks Trap,
I'll be at the bench this weekend. I've got the urge :w00t:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: griz104 on Dec 01, 2010, 05:23 PM
Here is the web site of that Ice Fishing Show in Syracuse....

http://www.agievents.com/shows/display.cfm?showid=46
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Dec 03, 2010, 11:10 AM
Well.... I'm gone for a few days and... Trapper is back!! ;), HT is still fighting with GAMMA :P, Trap, didn't you separate those two a while ago??, FM is on a mission to get the UN Old Farts to another thread, that I haven't checked out yet!! Rg is getting flies tied for ice season, which, I would like  a few for myself, see you Saturday!! ;). Oh, by the way, Trap, I'll need a few from you as well!! ;), and GAMMA thinks he's the master of disaster!!!! :-* :-* and the snow just starting coming down HEAVY here!! Think I'm going to the bench for the remainder of the day to tie some of those "loose" hair's ear things!!! ;)


LIFE IS GOOD!!

KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 04, 2010, 02:06 AM
Are you saying that Trapper is gonna make an appearance at the show on Saturday?


RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Dec 04, 2010, 05:22 AM
Are you saying that Trapper is gonna make an appearance at the show on Saturday?


RG
Wouldn't that be something  ::) ::) ;D ;D   I doubt it though .   He'll have some kind of excuse like the perch are biting in Czechoslovakia or something like that  ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 04, 2010, 04:26 PM
Thought maybe he was gonna do a "Fly Tying 101" seminar. I'd have paid big bucks for that.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Dec 04, 2010, 04:41 PM
Wouldn't that be something  ::) ::) ;D ;D   I doubt it though .   He'll have some kind of excuse like the perch are biting in Czechoslovakia or something like that  ;D ;D
Or maybe Trap will be trapping a moose in Bosnia!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 04, 2010, 05:19 PM
Or:
1. Armenia; 2. Azerbaijan; 3. Belarus; 4. Estonia;
5. Georgia; 6. Kazakhstan; 7. Kyrgyzstan; 8. Latvia;
9. Lithuania; 10. Moldova; 11. Russia; 12. Tajikistan;
13. Turkmenistan; 14. Ukraine; 15. Uzbekistan

I'm betting the perch are biting in Uzbekistan ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Dec 04, 2010, 05:32 PM
Or Jamaica!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Dec 05, 2010, 10:09 AM
WHITE PERCH!!!!...........QATAR!!!!!!!--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 05, 2010, 01:25 PM
Where is that old buzzard?
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Dec 05, 2010, 02:02 PM
Where is that old buzzard?
RG
hunting  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: adam2000 on Dec 05, 2010, 02:14 PM
Or:
1. Armenia; 2. Azerbaijan; 3. Belarus; 4. Estonia;
5. Georgia; 6. Kazakhstan; 7. Kyrgyzstan; 8. Latvia;
9. Lithuania; 10. Moldova; 11. Russia; 12. Tajikistan;
13. Turkmenistan; 14. Ukraine; 15. Uzbekistan

I'm betting the perch are biting in Uzbekistan ;D

RG
been to most of those countries except russia and estonia,  the fishing sucks
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Dec 05, 2010, 03:46 PM
OR..... He is getting the presents ready for everbody on MFF for CHRISTMAS!!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Dec 06, 2010, 06:45 AM
Good Call Buddy!!!!! I hope he's wrapping up some of those infamous ice flies for me!!! LOL!!! What would you like RG?????!!! What do you think SANTA TRAPPER is bringing you for X-MAS????  ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 07, 2010, 02:06 PM
All I want for Christmas is a Mouse tying lesson. There's something I'm missing in spinning that d**n deer hair :-\ I'm just not very good at that......yet!

I think we should all chip on next year and rent Trap a booth at the show. He can give fly tying demonstrations. We'll put a coffee can on the table for donations.

Only problem will be catching him and hog tying him to get him to show up ;D

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Dec 07, 2010, 02:52 PM
I would like from SANTA TRAPPER, One of his best flies for trout!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Dec 07, 2010, 06:00 PM
Hey guys, just popping in to say I hope you all have the greatest of Holiday seasons. And yes as I'm an old fart, Merry Christmas, and happy New Year!!
All I want for Christmas is to get through another Adirondack winter, with at least my sanity intact.
Hope by next spring I'm in a better state of mind, and have the desire to lay a line down soft on the water.
Have a great ice season too!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Dec 07, 2010, 06:37 PM
Really nice to hear from ya 1Fish, And all the best wishes this holiday season to you and everyone out there! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 03, 2011, 03:29 PM
Any "Old Farts" left over here?

Same old...same old over at IS :-\

What's on the fly bench? I'm working on Cahills, Catskill style.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Feb 03, 2011, 04:52 PM
The Jr. Jr. buzzard is on!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 03, 2011, 05:39 PM
Hey JR,
I got "Woody " in the mail the other day. Thanks!

I'm gonna skin him out next week when I'm on vacation. I've been studying up on how to treat him to best preserve the feathers. It'll be a nice addition to my materials collection.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Feb 03, 2011, 05:54 PM
Any "Old Farts" left over here?

Same old...same old over at IS :-\

What's on the fly bench? I'm working on Cahills, Catskill style.
RG
Just YOU RG!!!! :rotflol: LOL!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 04, 2011, 01:35 AM
I may be old, but not too old to get up at 1:30 am to go to work :-\

I have to work on some lights at a YMCA early this morning. I need to be out of the gym by 7am....before the obsessed housewives and workout geezers show up.

Last day before vacation though......I'm good with that ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Feb 05, 2011, 08:56 AM
Get your
I may be old, but not too old to get up at 1:30 am to go to work :-\

I have to work on some lights at a YMCA early this morning. I need to be out of the gym by 7am....before the obsessed housewives and workout geezers show up.

Last day before vacation though......I'm good with that ;D

RG
Have fun my friend!!! ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 14, 2011, 05:42 PM
Well, Back to work today.
 Funny, I didn't mind. I think the owner actually missed me. He was nice all day (a rarity).

I ice fished a ton, spent plenty of time tying flies for spring and plain old relaxed. I got to fish with HT and Chiefcatchemall.....in a blizzard and  spent as couple of days with my good friend "The Old Man".

Had a few really good catches of perch and bluegills. All in all, a great bit of time off.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Feb 15, 2011, 09:12 AM
WHERE'S TRAPPER?????--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 19, 2011, 02:35 AM
I think he's still hiding out on "Lake X". I should have a package going your way this week. Gonna hit Bass Pro for some materials today. Need beads ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Feb 19, 2011, 01:41 PM
I think he's still hiding out on "Lake X". I should have a package going your way this week. Gonna hit Bass Pro for some materials today. Need beads ;D

RG
I just hope he doesn't wear out the Arctic Armour in one season!!! LOL!! I miss that 'Ol Buzzard!! We'll be waiting RG...Thanks a ton!!--KP :) That duck work out alright for you??
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 19, 2011, 05:28 PM
"Woody" is still on ice. I've been researching just how to handle him best.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 11, 2011, 03:38 PM
Where is that "Old Fart" anyway ???

Haven't heard a word from Trapper in months.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 12, 2011, 12:43 PM
Rumor has it that he's in the process of wearing out that new Arctic Armour suit he bought himself for Christmas, somewhere in the Great White...... Only a rumor!!! :whistling: :whistling: Crazy 'Ol Buzzard!!!! I'm quite certain that he'll be back in time for spring crappie and perch!!!! Hello RG!!!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 12, 2011, 04:25 PM
Won't be long now ;D

The streams are getting a good flushing right now, just a few weeks and I'll be tromping them in earnest. Till then, the boat is ready at the first sign of  an ice free launch.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Mar 12, 2011, 04:34 PM
lubing up the fly rod now for mid-week stream fishing or can I meet you at the  launch RG then?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 12, 2011, 05:52 PM
Well...I've got a 3wt ready to get into the new drying box for finish. I'll be itching to give it a test cast. I don't hold much hope for the streams for a week or so. It may be the launch Saturday morning ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Mar 22, 2011, 04:59 AM
Time to start getting this thread active again ehh? Just remembered that I still have KP's fly tieing book he let me borrow last summer.....whoops. It'll find it's way home KP, I promise. 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 22, 2011, 06:12 AM
Yes sir FM!! That book is yours bud, I bought another!! I'm not quite finessed and as detail oriented as RG with tying flies....But, Mine do catch fish!! I do know that Jr. inherited a real nice mess of flies over the winter.....Thanks RG!! I gotta talk to a man about a custom rod though... :whistling: Well, I have certainly missed Trapper for the past 4 months, hope he's still vertical!! ;) Titelines with Dry Flies gentlemen!! Hey, that's pretty catchy!! ;D--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Mar 22, 2011, 07:06 AM
Looks like I may be doing a little more fly fishing this year.
Selling the boat, and right now the only mode of transportation is foot.  Good thing the river is only a mile from the house. :o
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 22, 2011, 03:33 PM
Good to see some familiar farts.....better re-phrase that....fly fishers around again.

1fish, sorry to hear about your boat, but, the fly rod is a timeless substitute. I've slowly come to the realization that my fishing interests are coming full circle. I only want to fly fish and bobber fish any more. I still do a bit of spin fishing in the streams and a few weeks of trolling for walleye, but the fly rod is always on my mind.

I hope the streams and rivers give some respite from life's difficulties for you. If you'd like to become an official "Field Tester" of some of my flies....just say the word ;D

Welcome back you bunch of fly nuts!
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 22, 2011, 03:46 PM
Good to be back, RG!!

Funny, You mentioned, fishing coming full circle. I was thinking of that same thing while Jr. and I were getting open water gear ready.

Seems as though the older I get, that vise of mine stays put on my desk for longer periods of time. I couldn't possibly stop walleye, bass, flatfish, steelhead, trout and salmon fishing anytime soon, because of an up and comer, Jr. He wants to fish and catch everything that is in the waters of NY. Not a bad thing........

Well, KP, has some stoneflies, boogers and a few other pieces of arsenol to tend to. Gonna be a great fishing season....Enjoy it!!!

Titelines with  Dry Flies Gentlemen!!

KP ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Mar 22, 2011, 11:24 PM
I am delighted to see some of our good friends back here again, I'm still not an Ol' fart.....but I do have another year under my belt fellas! As we all know, with age...comes wisdom. I truly still have a long way to go. With friends of the caliber of you people.....I just may make it to a good Ol' ripe age.

Thank you KP for the gift brother....that is unexpected , but also appreciated more than words can speak. My father did teach me at least one good trait.."what comes around..goes around". ;)

And to all.....I wish for good health, and a prosperous season.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 23, 2011, 07:14 AM
I'm older than you FM, You calling KP an Old Fart?? Ha Ha!! LOL!! I know where I stand in this world with you Lance, Anything...anytime!!!! ;)

Titelines--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Mar 23, 2011, 07:36 PM
Finally got my replacment Sharkskin fly line back today. Can't wait to try it out. Love the line. Supper slick
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Mar 24, 2011, 04:02 AM
Finally got my replacment Sharkskin fly line back today. Can't wait to try it out. Love the line. Supper slick
Let us know if you catch a shark ! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 24, 2011, 05:32 PM
I'm going back and forth between a Sharkskin and a Cortland Precision. Are SA lines US made?
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 24, 2011, 06:26 PM
I believe the company started in Michigan RG!!! I was looking at thier sharkskin line not long ago and the box , I believe did say, Made in USA!! Sorry, I couldn't be of more help!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 24, 2011, 06:59 PM
I have made a concerted effort to buy American made products for this build. I know Cortland is USA made and have had nothing but good experience with their lines. I just thought I'd try something different.....if it's made in USA.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Mar 24, 2011, 08:16 PM
They are in Michigen. I have to say,they stand behind there product. Had my line for 2 years and the loop broke. They sent me a new one.  :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 25, 2011, 02:27 AM
Thanks Wiredstone. It makes me happy to see a quality line made in the good old USA. I assume it's a welded loop? I hate to break with my own tradition of using Cortland lines. I've had extraordinary good results with them.....but....it maybe time for a change. ;D

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 25, 2011, 07:13 AM
Good morning Old Farts!! RG, What line do you use for trout on  intermediate to larger sized streams/ small rivers , where some distance in cast would be needed?? 5 wt. rod with dries and nymphs. Thanks!!--KP :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 25, 2011, 04:24 PM
Geez, I have to tell you that I'm not as proficient a trout fisher as most of the others around here. I've been a warm water fly fisher most of my time.

I can say that I use a weight forward on my 5, 7 and 9wt rods. I'm a Cortland guy so 444 lazer lines have been my choice for many years. For the 3wt I just finished I'm choosing between a Cortland Precision and a SA Sharkskin in a double taper...maybe both....  possibly 1 being  a half weight heavier.

Seems to me that it depends on your rod, it's flex and your casting style. Every rod (and fly fisher)  will lift and control a line differently.  A fast rod will take a heavier line if you want. It's too bad that there isn't a shop with a bunch of reels spooled up with a variety of lines that a person could try. :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: celt6 on Mar 25, 2011, 04:49 PM
Cant say anything bad about Cortland, learned to fly fish a few Years ago, got a nice starter set from Cortland in 5wt, 7.5 ft rod, still use that thing in the streams, .... weight forward for me, I am an amateur old fart.


Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Mar 25, 2011, 06:49 PM
I typically wear out my fly line (Cortland444, WF5 wt) in one season of fishing about 70 trips or 400 hrs of fishing. What kind of life do you fellows experience from your line?Am I asking for too much to expect it to last longer?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Mar 25, 2011, 10:26 PM
I typically wear out my fly line (Cortland444, WF5 wt) in one season of fishing about 70 trips or 400 hrs of fishing. What kind of life do you fellows experience from your line?Am I asking for too much to expect it to last longer?

Good question, especially for a fly rook, as I am. How do ya know when the line is worn? Does it sink readily....or just typical dings and chaffing?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Mar 26, 2011, 09:09 AM
the line develops cracks since the plastic coating loses plasticizer and the line becomes brittle. You can easily see the microcracks in its surface. The line is still useful  but it compromises its performance somewhat. Probably keeping the line out of sunlight and away from heat is helpful plus cleaning the line periodically would be good.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: celt6 on Mar 26, 2011, 12:09 PM
I stretch mine out in the spring, then apply a light coat of armor all on a piece of papertowel then rewind holding the the line between the towel.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 26, 2011, 02:05 PM
I've used Son Of A Gun protectant ever since I rejuvenated a 10 year old line with it a few years back. I had a lightly used 7wt, Cortland 444 sink tip that was damaged by mold in a basement flood. I cleaned it as best as I could and coated it several times with Son Of A Gun and it performed very well.

I use it as a cleaner on a soft cloth. It seems to add flotation as well.

I've never had a Cortland line crack.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 26, 2011, 02:08 PM
Hey RG, If I wipe my lines down with WD-40.....Would I catch more fish??? LOL!!! Good tips here guys!! ;) Thanks--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 26, 2011, 02:11 PM
On another note, what's your scissor collection look like.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/scissorcollection.jpg)

I have to admit, I use the little green handled scissors more than any of the others. Craftsmart...Micheal's crafts...$3.99 :-\

The Ghinger scissors in the box were crazy expensive and I end up using the cheap ones....go figure.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 26, 2011, 02:14 PM
Hey RG, If I wipe my lines down with WD-40.....Would I catch more fish??? LOL!!! Good tips here guys!! ;) Thanks--KP 8)
Aaaaaaaa...yeah.....you'd catch more fish....something's gotta work for you :P

Wait till you get the next box of goodies KP. You'll begin to understand the depths of my fishing addiction.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 26, 2011, 02:20 PM
Aaaaaaaa...yeah.....you'd catch more fish....something's gotta work for you  :P

Wait till you get the next box of goodies KP. You'll begin to understand the depths of my fishing addiction.

RG
First GAMMA....now RG is picking on me!!! LOL! You had better send a bill with it too!!! ;)  The anticipation of that delivery is killing me!!!! ;D

Thanks,
 KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Mar 26, 2011, 03:39 PM
On another note, what's your scissor collection look like.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/flies/scissorcollection.jpg)

I have to admit, I use the little green handled scissors more than any of the others. Craftsmart...Micheal's crafts...$3.99 :-\

The Ghinger scissors in the box were crazy expensive and I end up using the cheap ones....go figure.
RG

It just goes to show ya !   Scissors are like a box of chocolates !    You never know what you'll get !

  KP. Gump
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 27, 2011, 02:54 AM
It's embarrassing how well those little scissors work. Super fine points, cut just about anything from the finest fibers to wire. The $40 pair in the box don't come close :-\

I do like the Dr Slicks for any work with deer or elk hair..

I still haven't decided on a line. I like the Sharkskin design...but...100 bucks for a fly line? Come on! I was trying to find out if it has a platinum core or what.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Mar 27, 2011, 04:04 AM
It's embarrassing how well those little scissors work. Super fine points, cut just about anything from the finest fibers to wire. The $40 pair in the box don't come close :-\

I do like the Dr Slicks for any work with deer or elk hair..

I still haven't decided on a line. I like the Sharkskin design...but...100 bucks for a fly line? Come on! I was trying to find out if it has a platinum core or what.

RG

And I always thought a quality tool such as, would only be useful for grooming a ripe Ol' Sicilian that probably learned facial hair growth during elementary. ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Mar 27, 2011, 05:09 AM
Probably made in an oil refinery. They call it sharkskin, Kind of like the suits they wear... ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Mar 27, 2011, 06:45 AM
It's embarrassing how well those little scissors work. Super fine points, cut just about anything from the finest fibers to wire. The $40 pair in the box don't come close :-\

I do like the Dr Slicks for any work with deer or elk hair..

I still haven't decided on a line. I like the Sharkskin design...but...100 bucks for a fly line? Come on! I was trying to find out if it has a platinum core or what.

RG
I wouldnt go for the sharskin just because of how much it costs. I would look at the mastery fly line SA makes!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 27, 2011, 04:43 PM
In the end I went with my favorite line...Cortland 444 Classic. DT3F. I took some casts with the new setup in the back yard and all I can say is WOW! Crisp and effortless.

I bought a nice cream Metz, some thread and some leader loops with the savings.

I can't wait to christen it with fishy smells  ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Mar 28, 2011, 09:20 AM
RG, do you like the DT over the WT for any reason other then the reversability issue? Do they both  fish  the same ?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 28, 2011, 12:02 PM
RG, do you like the DT over the WT for any reason other then the reversability issue? Do they both  fish  the same ?
The DT seems to be right for the 3wt. They roll cast and mend easier in my opinion. After all...how far am I going to cast with w 7' - 6" 3wt. From the feel of it, it's going to drop some delicate presentations.
Time will tell ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 08, 2011, 03:50 PM
I figured I would chime in on the Old Farts thread here and see what I can stir up!! Sure been quiet around here!! Kinda sad though...Trapper graces us with his presense and didn't stop in here to chat and catch up with the rest of his chronies!!! Titelines gentlemen!!--KP :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 08, 2011, 06:42 PM
Gonna have to get that old fart an Ipad with 4g   or pin a gps on him ;D
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 09, 2011, 09:04 AM
Gonna have to get that old fart an Ipad with 4g   or pin a gps on him ;D
RG

RG,

He don't sit still too long, I think the GPS would get tired of trying to keep up with with him!!  ;)--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Apr 19, 2011, 02:27 AM
How about some casting technique advice from ya seasoned vets? I've been practicing the common "roll cast", "false cast", for a change of direction, and "overhand cast" to reposition the fly. My technique can always use some critiquing.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Apr 19, 2011, 05:05 AM
One of the biggest things I see is people "going too far". Try and keep your stroke from 10 o'clock to 2 or even a tad shorter. When people go past this it is usually from too much wrist movement. Once in a while you'll see someone with way too much arm movement and it looks painfull.  :w00t:
Another thing is rythm/ letting the line straighten out. If the line hasnt opened up all the way before bringing it the other direction your loosing power. It is easy to see in front of you but it takes some feel on the back cast. A slower rod will help with the feel. Many folks that learn on a fast rod can have trouble with that.
One big thing that puts more fish on the hook for me is the "reach cast". It is simple but helps alot of presentations. Really all it is is an up-stream mend/reach after your line has straightened out but before it has hit the water. I use this depending on current with swinging wets, nymphing, and dries. It sets up a drag free drift or gets you some depth before starting a swing...
Anything you feel needs some work with your casting?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 19, 2011, 07:47 AM
lance  take  your   rod  in  the  drive  way  of  the   shop !  actually  watch   your   back  cast  ...watch   your  line  strighten   before  starting  your   forward   cast  ....   the  timing  is   the  bomb  bro   ;D  after  awhile  it   comes   second  nature  ,  if  you  have  trouble    let  me   know  you  got  a  coffee pot  it's all  we  need    to  hold  casting  class   right  there   ;D  next week  we  attack  the   double  haul ....two  false  cast  load  the  rod  and  let  it   fly   yeah  babyyyyyyy
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 19, 2011, 07:52 AM
lance  take  your   rod  in  the  drive  way  of  the   shop !  actually  watch   your   back  cast  ...watch   your  line  strighten   before  starting  your   forward   cast  ....   the  timing  is   the  bomb  bro   ;D  after  awhile  it   comes   second  nature  ,  if  you  have  trouble    let  me   know  you  got  a  coffee pot  it's all  we  need    to  hold  casting  class   right  there   ;D  next week  we  attack  the   double  haul ....two  false  cast  load  the  rod  and  let  it   fly   yeah  babyyyyyyy
Lance, if you have coffee and jerky......Kp Jr. would love to do some casting with you boys!! Monster drink for Josh!! ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 19, 2011, 07:54 AM
hey   kp  jr   probablly  show   us  old  folks  up  but.......  i  still  have  a  couple   rods  and   ice   jigs   for  you  two  and  maybe  a   trip  to  the  traps   secret   fly  box   for  the  KP  JR  .....  no  beads  in  my  box  ....  i  fish  not  snag   :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 19, 2011, 07:58 AM
hey   kp  jr   probablly  show   us  old  folks  up  but.......  i  still  have  a  couple   rods  and   ice   jigs   for  you  two  and  maybe  a   trip  to  the  traps   secret   fly  box   for  the  KP  JR  .....  no  beads  in  my  box  ....  i  fish  not  snag   :rotflol: :rotflol:
What are beads?? and what is snagging??? ??? Be a fun time with you guys!! Jr. would look forward to it!!  ;)--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Apr 19, 2011, 10:57 AM
Hey gang. Still around, just not as much as I used to be. Good to see the gangs all here.
Hope you all have great springs and fish filled outings.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 19, 2011, 11:37 AM
Good to see your still vertical 1 fish!! We do have Trapper back, well, until the next tour!! ;D  ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Apr 19, 2011, 03:06 PM
hey   kp  jr   probablly  show   us  old  folks  up  but.......  i  still  have  a  couple   rods  and   ice   jigs   for  you  two  and  maybe  a   trip  to  the  traps   secret   fly  box   for  the  KP  JR  .....  no  beads  in  my  box  ....  i  fish  not  snag   :rotflol: :rotflol:
I am all in Trap. now we gotta go get some gills or trout together
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 19, 2011, 05:07 PM
I am all in Trap. now we gotta go get some gills or trout together



  i'll  be  back  soon  JR  but  till  then  i  told  yer  dad  a  few  spots    so  you  two  are  on a  secret  mission!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 19, 2011, 06:26 PM


  i'll  be  back  soon  JR  but  till  then  i  told  yer  dad  a  few  spots    so  you  two  are  on a  secret  mission!
;)--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Apr 20, 2011, 12:19 AM
One of the biggest things I see is people "going too far". Try and keep your stroke from 10 o'clock to 2 or even a tad shorter. When people go past this it is usually from too much wrist movement. Once in a while you'll see someone with way too much arm movement and it looks painfull.  :w00t:
Another thing is rythm/ letting the line straighten out. If the line hasnt opened up all the way before bringing it the other direction your loosing power. It is easy to see in front of you but it takes some feel on the back cast. A slower rod will help with the feel. Many folks that learn on a fast rod can have trouble with that.
One big thing that puts more fish on the hook for me is the "reach cast". It is simple but helps alot of presentations. Really all it is is an up-stream mend/reach after your line has straightened out but before it has hit the water. I use this depending on current with swinging wets, nymphing, and dries. It sets up a drag free drift or gets you some depth before starting a swing...
Anything you feel needs some work with your casting?


Great advise DC, I do follow the "short but sweet" arm swing mehods. Your also right about the rhythm thing. I think that is more important to grasp before ya try to learn more techniques
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Apr 20, 2011, 12:22 AM
Trap and KP, and KP jr. You guys know that you are more than welcome to stop by the shop anytime to talk about the four letter word. "fish".....coffee is always on..., Sorry Jr. I don't have Monsters delivered to the shop , them things give me a gut ache!! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 20, 2011, 01:58 AM
My casting advise is to buy a pipe and some good tobacco. Always take it with you on the stream.

Next get a large mirror and master two facial expressions..."Thoughtful" and "Bemused".

These tools, put to good use by an inept fly fisher, such as myself, can save hours of embarrassment when in proximity of other fishers who actually know how to cast a fly line.

Here's the scenario;
You're on the stream and flailing your fly rod like you're beating out a brush fire with a broom, and here comes a real fly fisher. He ever so gently makes 2 perfect roll casts from behind a 6' multiflora rose bush and wafts a dry fly under an overhanging tree limb landing it as a feather in the soft breeze thereby enticing a 3lb trout to gulp it in.

You make your first attempt at a cast and fly the line square into that same multiflora rose bush, entangling it to a point where it will take 2 men in armored clothing with chain saws to extract it. Now is the time for action.

Without cussing, you raise your right hand to your chin and throw out your best "Bemused" look as if to say "Now how the heck could that have happened". Next you pull out your pipe, stuff it with tobacco, light up and as the smoke drifts from yout mouth you employ the "Thoughtful" expression. At this point you have most likely convinced the other angler that your miscast could only be the resulting "act of God" that all fly fishers experience every so often.

Hopefully he'll move on after emptying the hole you were going to try to fish and you can get on with searing pain of retrieving your fly line from the rose bush.

(loosely plagiarized from Pat McManus)

Failing those basic techniques, I find myself watching some YouTube videos of Joan Wulff and Lefty Kreigh from time to time to straighten out my fly chasing.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 20, 2011, 08:46 AM
Always a pleasure reading your stories RG!! ;) Now, I'm headed to the smoke shop to get me a pipe and some Captain Hack!!! There better not be any rose bushes near my trout stream!! ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Apr 20, 2011, 11:46 PM
As always, well delivered and to the point RG. I have aquired some of them qualities..ie. Puffing on my pipe as i'm typing. Not sure if my Captain Black Royal tobacoo would ever be considered "quality" though. But I enjoy the smoke from it, nice and relaxing.

I still make casting a spin rod look like a horror show quite often, in my opinion.

I feel more accurate with my fly rods to be honest. Spoken loosely also. ;)

Great input from all ya's. Thank you. Keep it coming Gents.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 21, 2011, 02:40 AM
I'm serious about watching some You Tube videos of Joan Wulff and Lefty. They have diametrically opposed casting styles. Lefty is free form and Joan is technically perfect.

That said there are still mechanical principals which apply to all fly casting techniques that need to be understood.

The yard is a great place to make you feel confident about your casting prowess. The stream (and the multiflora) will humble you.

By the way, I don't smoke.....any more ;D
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 21, 2011, 07:14 AM
I did go and watch a few of those youtube videos RG!! Grabbed my pipe and Captain Hack, Labatt Blue.....Well, needless to say Lefty is and always has been a kick@ss flyfisherman!! Joan Wulff ??...well,...........do I need to say more??? Awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peQIVe5vJio (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peQIVe5vJio) ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nJ9xGuSH7g&feature=grec_index (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nJ9xGuSH7g&feature=grec_index)

For FM!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ-AXvVbKkE&feature=grec_index (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ-AXvVbKkE&feature=grec_index)

Good day Gents, Headed to the four letter dirty word...............!!--KP  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Apr 21, 2011, 08:48 AM
I'm serious about watching some You Tube videos of Joan Wulff and Lefty. They have diametrically opposed casting styles. Lefty is free form and Joan is technically perfect.

Two years ago I was fishing my favorite rift on the lower east branch of the delaware, all alone(not easy to do on the delly).
Anyways, towards evening I noticed a person a few hundred yards above me working thier way down. As "she" got closer she crossed and fished the rift from the other side, staying a good distance away. After a while I noticed her casting and became mesmerized. Effortless and gracefull to say the least. Im 90% sure it was Joan. We both got into a few fish that evening...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Apr 21, 2011, 09:04 AM


  i'll  be  back  soon  JR  but  till  then  i  told  yer  dad  a  few  spots    so  you  two  are  on a  secret  mission!
Ok Trap, I will make sure i catch some for you too!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Apr 21, 2011, 09:05 AM
Trap and KP, and KP jr. You guys know that you are more than welcome to stop by the shop anytime to talk about the four letter word. "fish".....coffee is always on..., Sorry Jr. I don't have Monsters delivered to the shop , them things give me a gut ache!! ;D
It's all right I will bring my own!!!UMMMMM which kind now......m-80 or chaos??? I am thinkin CHAOS!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Apr 21, 2011, 07:26 PM
Busted out of work at 2 and Tank and I headed south for some small stream trout. Had a nice afternoon and got into about a dozen fish each...
(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/8555/008rd.jpg)
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6798/001vzuh.jpg)
The vid quality aint great. Wind was bad, sun was bad, and the batt was dying... But heres and old f--t with a fly rod and some minnows!  :w00t:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TfD3xfQhno (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TfD3xfQhno)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Apr 21, 2011, 08:01 PM
Interesting vids, lots of good info. there. Thanks KP.
KP Jr., you young men can have your energy drinks, they smell like cough syrup to me. I like my coffee, and sometimes the adult beverage.

If the weather cooperates, Sat. I plan on hitting my little lake for some pans. Gonna bring the 4 wt. for some practice off the jon boat. If weather is undesireable, I'll be going to the Constantia hatchery for my yearly walk through.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Apr 22, 2011, 05:36 PM
 :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Apr 29, 2011, 12:05 AM
Well, since my last post, all I have done is work....and a bit of fishing. No true stories on the fly, but I wish to keep this thread rolling.  ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 29, 2011, 02:17 AM
Working and watching the rain. The creeks are unfishable.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 29, 2011, 07:00 AM
Working and watching the rain. The creeks are unfishable.
RG
I'm quite certain that the chair at your bench is staying warm!!!! ;) Your package will leave today!! :)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 29, 2011, 04:13 PM
My boat seat will be warm tomorrow ;D

I am working on a "special order" for some salt water flies though. ;)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 29, 2011, 04:36 PM
snad  eels  and   bunker  RG!!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 29, 2011, 04:40 PM
Sand eels and deceivers ;D

It's a good tying challenge.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 29, 2011, 04:41 PM
oh  i   know  a  patteren!!!!!   and  they   come  out  awsome  !  RG  you plan  on a  salt  water  run  this  year  ,  if  so  i'm  game
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 29, 2011, 05:14 PM
It's for an up and coming fly fisher we know ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 30, 2011, 06:44 AM
Thanks RG!! Always thinking aren't you? Trapper, We may have extra room for you for our trip to Cape Cod this summer..... ;)--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 30, 2011, 04:02 PM
Sure...you have room for Trapper...but...."What About Bob?"

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 30, 2011, 05:06 PM
hey  that  sounds  good    KP  and  ya   RG   you'd  have  to  go   too
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 30, 2011, 05:38 PM
Hey,,,we could give them a good case of "Old Fart Overload"  :rotflol:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 30, 2011, 05:40 PM
lol  true   but  kp  is  use to  me
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Apr 30, 2011, 06:48 PM
Hey,,,we could give them a good case of "Old Fart Overload"  :rotflol:

RG
No you wouldn't. I would probably just sit there and listen and get so much info on fly fishing and all sorts of fly fishing things it would be great!!!!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Apr 30, 2011, 08:24 PM
Took Lehigh Valley out with the flyrods today. This was his first Broadhead trout on the fly. Beadhead pheasant tails are king there
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj204/wiredstone/P4290018.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 01, 2011, 01:50 AM
I'm soooooo jealous! Can't even get near a stream around my neck of the woods. Now I see Cayuga County has banned boating due to the high water levels.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on May 01, 2011, 05:21 PM
Dad and I headed south this morning with the flyrods. We skipped around and covered some ground and ran into about 15 trout. Brookies, browns, and rainbows...
The silver haired one got his best brookie ever. Obvously a stocked "breeder" from when they stocked back in the begining of march. She jumped all over a minnow Tank was working with the flyrod.  8)
We hit 3 diff creeks and only saw one other person wetting a line...
18 inches!
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/9425/006rkk.jpg)
(http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/1184/002buw.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on May 01, 2011, 06:16 PM
Nice ! :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 02, 2011, 01:13 PM
Sure...you have room for Trapper...but...."What About Bob?"

RG
You, my friend, shouldn't have to ask!!!! ;) Trapper and RG on the same water with KP and KP Jr............. :whistling: ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on May 02, 2011, 02:43 PM
Dad and I headed south this morning with the flyrods. We skipped around and covered some ground and ran into about 15 trout. Brookies, browns, and rainbows...
The silver haired one got his best brookie ever. Obvously a stocked "breeder" from when they stocked back in the begining of march. She jumped all over a minnow Tank was working with the flyrod.  8)
We hit 3 diff creeks and only saw one other person wetting a line...
18 inches!
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/9425/006rkk.jpg)
(http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/1184/002buw.jpg)
nice looking brookie guys  :clapping: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 02, 2011, 03:56 PM
(http://www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/westside/150/Dsc0269.jpg)

"I'M SAILING!"

rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on May 02, 2011, 06:12 PM
You, my friend, shouldn't have to ask!!!! ;) Trapper and RG on the same water with KP and KP Jr............. :whistling: ;D--KP 8)
THAT WOULD BE ONE GREAT A-TEAM!!!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on May 15, 2011, 07:15 PM
Any of you old or young folks getting out with the flyrod???
Spent dome time this weeknd down to our camp on the Delaware. Enough bug activity to get some trout active. Nothing like those wild fish on a flyrod!
(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/8514/004rpp.jpg)
(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/3243/011le.jpg)
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4110/010hm.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 15, 2011, 08:03 PM
dark i'll  be  chasing  gills  crappies  and  rock  bass with the  fly  rod  this week ,  nice  fish and  pics
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on May 15, 2011, 08:25 PM
heading down to Pepacton cabins (Downsville,NY) to fish the east branch of the Delaware, the Willo and the beaverkill from Monday until next Sunday. Hope there is enough water. ??? ??? ??? With all this rain in Rochester, lets hope it doesn't completely foul-up the streams down there. At least down there I have a variety of places to get wet!May get over to the Neversink as well but if all else fails there is always the reservoir's from shore. Chest waders and rain rear are all working well but may need scuba gear the way it looks. There is always the old standby, playing gin rummy and drinking booze. Should be fun. Wish me luck!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on May 15, 2011, 08:27 PM
heading down to Pepacton cabins (Downsville,NY) to fish the east branch of the Delaware, the Willo and the beaverkill from Monday until next Sunday. Hope there is enough water. ??? ??? ??? With all this rain in Rochester, lets hope it doesn't completely foul-up the streams down there. At least down there I have a variety of places to get wet!May get over to the Neversink as well but if all else fails there is always the reservoir's from shore. Chest waders and rain rear are all working well but may need scuba gear the way it looks. There is always the old standby, playing gin rummy and drinking booze. Should be fun. Wish me luck!
well good luck and enjoy your time after those fish ;) ;) ;) 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 16, 2011, 05:37 AM
oat  sure  you'll  do  fine !  good  luck 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 16, 2011, 05:38 PM
I was down through the Southern Tier today and the streams are chocolate milk. I managed a few trout yesterday in a back yard honey hole as the water was rising. Opted for the old "#6 red wiggler" and rooster tails.  ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 16, 2011, 05:41 PM
Hey Trap, if it doesn't downpour tomorrow, you wanna hit a trout stream?? Rain has me behind....AGAIN!!--KP


Good evening RG!! :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 16, 2011, 05:50 PM
If it doesn't downpour tomorrow, you better get your butt to work!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 16, 2011, 05:58 PM
    YES DAD!!, LOL! A customer had a basement that caved in two walls. We removed a 16' x 24' deck, jacked up the house, excavated, completely removed the walls, installed new walls, drainage and now waiting for backfill. The rain today has made the soil junk and now have to wait to finish backfill, grading and seeding. Then I have to build a new deck and pour a 16' x 20' Stampcrete concrete pad. I think I'll wait for the other work to be done....maybe 3-4 weeks, just to make sure all soil has been compacted in place!! ;) I do have work for the rest of the week....thought maybe a PLAY HOOKEY day was in order!! ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 16, 2011, 06:01 PM
I remember working that hard.........glad I only have to remember ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 16, 2011, 06:03 PM
I'm certain you have done your time my friend!!! I can't wait for the " I remember" days!! ;)--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 16, 2011, 06:28 PM
Yeah, tough day today...drove 250 miles and counted lights and fixtures for 4 hours ;D

It's a ridiculous job for anyone ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 16, 2011, 07:07 PM
KP  i  have   a  bunch  of  nymphs  and   drys  for  you  and    jr    to  try out   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 17, 2011, 06:50 AM
Yeah, tough day today...drove 250 miles and counted lights and fixtures for 4 hours ;D

It's a ridiculous job for anyone ;D

RG
Send me a job application!! ;D You can sit in the passenger seat!!!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 17, 2011, 06:51 AM
KP  i  have   a  bunch  of  nymphs  and   drys  for  you  and    jr    to  try out   ;D
Thanks Trap! ;)--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on May 17, 2011, 06:55 PM
I'm figuring the streams might be at a level to fish sometime in September... :o :o
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 17, 2011, 07:22 PM
Yeah..September 2013 :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on May 18, 2011, 12:41 AM
Yeah..September 2013 :-\

RG


ARgghh, yes I am seeing the effects water levels contribute to my catch ratio. Although, I do realize that it becomes a simple matter of adjusting and overcoming that barrier. I'm working on that gent's, when I get back on track.....you will all be the first to know.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: hunts2long on May 18, 2011, 06:16 AM
1fish, my row boat has been tied off to my deck for a week now, lake has dropped some but keeps coming up....hunts2long
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on May 18, 2011, 08:24 AM
Yeah, hope you don't have to make a quick get away H2L!!! Champlain is still rising, never got below record levels even when it was going down.
 
That said....anyone have a friend named Noah????????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 18, 2011, 10:03 AM
No, But, I've heard of him!!! ;) and, I think there is plenty of room for all of us on that boat of his!!! ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 18, 2011, 04:19 PM
I heard he has a navigation problem. Last time out he ended up on a mountain in Turkey. He was headed for Miami :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on May 18, 2011, 09:25 PM
At least it's high ground....A lot better than Florida will be when all this water raises the oceans.... :o
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 19, 2011, 03:26 PM
were  i'm  fishing  in the  marina   it's  usually 5 1/2  to  6  foot  deep  right  now  71/2  foot  and thats  lake  ontario ...by  the way i'm  tying some  weighted  muddlers and wolly  buggers  for  the  rock  bass  right  now
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on May 19, 2011, 06:21 PM
Streams are blown out down here. I tied up some wooly buggers for some trout on a local lake. I have some gray ghost I might try too. Don't do much fly fishing on lakes ,but I will give it a try. ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 20, 2011, 01:34 AM
We got yet another 1/2" of rain yesterday. I'll be trolling my back yard if this doesn't let up soon :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 20, 2011, 04:41 AM
it's  unreal RG  more  thunder  boomers  today
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 23, 2011, 07:08 AM
Jr. and I took a ride to one of our streams yesterday. And he scored his first trout, Brookie on the fly!!! :clapping: After losing a few right off the start, he patiently kept after them. We didn't get a picture of it, he was so excited that when the fish started flopping in his hands, the fish had other plans!! He said, " That's OK Dad, I'll have the picture for the rest of my life in my mind." Amazing how fast he learns and picks up on things. ;) Great day as always fishing with my Lil Buddy!!

RG, He'll be ready soon....... ;) :whistling:

LIFE IS GOOD!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on May 23, 2011, 07:15 AM
Jr. and I took a ride to one of our streams yesterday. And he scored his first trout, Brookie on the fly!!! :clapping: After losing a few right off the start, he patiently kept after them. We didn't get a picture of it, he was so excited that when the fish started flopping in his hands, the fish had other plans!! He said, " That's OK Dad, I'll have the picture for the rest of my life in my mind." Amazing how fast he learns and picks up on things. ;) Great day as always fishing with my Lil Buddy!!

RG, He'll be ready soon....... ;) :whistling:

LIFE IS GOOD!!--KP 8)
that is fantastic to hear KP  :thumbup_smilie: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on May 23, 2011, 07:28 AM
Those times and stories of those times always bring a smile.
 
Way to go Jr.  Both on the fish and the lessons your learning from a good outdoors-man.
Congrats to you both!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 23, 2011, 07:38 AM
Thanks 1fish! Great times and memories to be had!!!!--KP ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 23, 2011, 03:48 PM


RG, He'll be ready soon....... ;) :whistling:

LIFE IS GOOD!!--KP 8)
What fun that will be ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 23, 2011, 05:55 PM
What fun that will be ;D

RG
;) ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on May 24, 2011, 04:52 PM
Thank you guys!!! I had just switched flies to a dry and on the second cast to a very good looking spot........ BAM I got a hit and the fish jumped outta the air!!!! I got it in, but when I went for it for a pic, it popped of!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 24, 2011, 05:10 PM
What fly were you using?

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 24, 2011, 05:36 PM
He tricked that brookie with a light cahill I believe RG!! ;) The tree's are very fond of our flies as well!! ::) Good times!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on May 24, 2011, 11:33 PM
Jr. and I took a ride to one of our streams yesterday. And he scored his first trout, Brookie on the fly!!! :clapping: After losing a few right off the start, he patiently kept after them. We didn't get a picture of it, he was so excited that when the fish started flopping in his hands, the fish had other plans!! He said, " That's OK Dad, I'll have the picture for the rest of my life in my mind." Amazing how fast he learns and picks up on things. ;) Great day as always fishing with my Lil Buddy!!

RG, He'll be ready soon....... ;) :whistling:

LIFE IS GOOD!!--KP 8)

Good enough right there KP and JR. Memories that will last for eternity.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 25, 2011, 07:21 AM
kp  thats  awsome  man ! lance  howdyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on May 27, 2011, 01:03 AM
kp  thats  awsome  man ! lance  howdyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;D

And a Howdy to you Mr. Trapper. I'm leading to presume, that all is well in life? Continue the good work you have been showing us.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 27, 2011, 05:33 AM
i'm showing  KP  how  to adjust  the idle  on a  old outboard  .... he's  getting  there  ....we  were  both scratching  our  heads  tho .....lol  life is always  good  lance  just keep  fishing ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 27, 2011, 07:18 AM
i'm showing  KP  how  to adjust  the idle  on a  old outboard  .... he's  getting  there  ....we  were  both scratching  our  heads  tho .....lol  life is always  good  lance  just keep  fishing ;D
Your wisdom always amazes me Buddy!! Once I get that old girl running, I'll show you how to put it on that boat of yours, fill thermos bottles with coffee, pack a nice sandwich in the cooler, load that boat and go pound some DUKES!! Well.... maybe not POUNDING the DUKES thing.... ;)  LIFE IS GOOD!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 27, 2011, 03:43 PM
and  thank you  mr  kp  for  all your  help   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 27, 2011, 04:07 PM
It's all back together Buddy!! I had dr. appointments today...sooooo, I don't know if she'll run....YET!!  KP says mumbling to himself..."Gotta be the idle control"...... :cookoo:--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on May 29, 2011, 06:54 PM
Tank and I spent the morning on one of our fav creeks. Conditions were great -water dropping but a bit off color. A little warm for stompin around but somehow there were no skeeters, gnats, or flies.
I dropped him off and took the vehicle down stream quite a ways, then fished down till he picked me up below. We both landed a dozen and played with a bunch of others. Flyrods and minnows!  ;D
Most of the nicer holes had one or two trout in them...
(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/5450/009fpl.jpg)
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8655/003emh.jpg)
Didnt run into anybody but did find a herd of Slow Elk...
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8381/011bcc.jpg)
They were not interested in the trout, but we will enjoy some tomorrow...
(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/7456/014qz.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on May 29, 2011, 07:45 PM
nice fish bro looks like surf and turf in the back ground  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on May 29, 2011, 10:23 PM
that is cool  8) ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 30, 2011, 08:49 PM
i stop at all season's yesterday and  got a  new  foam  cutter ,i got the small beaver  tail cutter ,  wow i love it  it's rather a  generic  bug  body  so  you can  use  it  for  hopper bodys  to stone  flies!  it was under 11  bucks and  worth  ever penny  !  if i  can i'll  post  pictures  of  some of the  flies  ,but  you  can  google  the  cutter and see  some  great  examples  !!!!RG  you want  this  cutter  man !!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 31, 2011, 01:58 AM
River Road makes some really cool stuff. Right now I'm applying for a second mortgage to but a genetic cape. Have you seen the prices of this stuff now? I saw a grade 2 Whiting dun  half cape go for $200 on Ebay. A full cape grizzly went for $350. Damned hairdressers are killing us tyers.

We need to raise us some chickens Trap!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 31, 2011, 06:56 AM
RG  it's  unbelieveable!  no matter  what  any one  says  your  talking  chicken  feathers  !!!!  i'm going  to try  to  take  some  pictures  of  using  the  beavertail  later today  ....RG   pm me  your  address  again i'll send  you  a  bunch of  these  bodys  ......  you'll  love  em
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 31, 2011, 04:17 PM
i personally  love  any  kind  of  dry  fly  and  i  have  been playing  with  this  patteren  for  years ,  the  other  day i  got  a  beavertail body  foam  cutter  made  by  river  road creations  ....it's  a  generic  bug  body that  lends  it's  self  to  be  used  as   a  number  of  insects  including  grasshoppers  and  crickets!  here  is  how  i  tie  a  simple  yet  very  effective  hopper

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/00.jpg)
first  the  materials  2  mm  foam(craft  store)  i  am  using  a  tan  and  brown  but  you  can use  what  ever you  wish,next   flashaboo,deer  hair  (or  elk)  and  rubber  leg  material  size  6  to  12  long  shank  hooks and  head  cement   

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/1.jpg)
next  simple  use  your  cutter  and  cut  out  a  bunch  of  bodys  ( if  you  don't  have  a   cutter  you  can  cut  them  with  sissors)  i  usually  cut  a  doz  at  a  time  when  i'm tying  ....with  the  cutter  it's  quick  easy  and  they  come  out  perfect

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/02.jpg)

next  step  attach  body  to hook  shank  and  ty  on  near  adomen  add  darker   body on top!  next  ty  off  and  again  start   just  behind  head! 
(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/03.jpg)

now  add  your  ruber  legs  and  set  them  evenly  and   adjust   so  they   lay in  water  evenly
(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/5.jpg)

now   use  a  small  amount  of  flashaboo  as a  under  wing  and  then   the  der  hair  as a  wing   i  then  add a  small  piece  of  white  foan  so i  can  see  the  fly  easyly  whip  finish  and  glue!
this  is  honestly  one  of  my  favorite  flys   for  trout bass  and  panfish  it  is  very  effective   fun  and  easy  to  tie

                                                                                                                                                                                TRAPP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on May 31, 2011, 05:02 PM
Do you always tie flies by candlight ?  ::) ::)   Bulbs are cheap at the dollar store  ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 31, 2011, 05:18 PM
The wing cutters are really interesting too. Did you check out their web site? The damsel fly body cutter is the nutz!
I'll trade you for some furled leaders. What weight rod you using?
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 31, 2011, 05:23 PM
The wing cutters are really interesting too. Did you check out their web site? The damsel fly body cutter is the nutz!
I'll trade you for some furled leaders. What weight rod you using?
RG

5  wt  rg!  yes  the  may  fly  wing  and  body  is  cool too .....  it's  so  fast  and  east  to  cut   bodys  this  way
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 01, 2011, 06:56 AM
i  think i  finish  my  coffee  i'll  head  over  to  the  lake  for  awhile  i  think  i  can  find  a  few   gills  interested  in  a  bug  or  two  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 02, 2011, 01:52 AM
If I wasn't so greedy, I'd quit working and get on with learning to fly fish and tie flies. Problem is, my boss just keeps throwing money at me. I think he found my weakness :-\

Another few years..... maybe.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jun 02, 2011, 04:40 AM
If I wasn't so greedy, I'd quit working and get on with learning to fly fish and tie flies. Problem is, my boss just keeps throwing money at me. I think he found my weakness :-\

Another few years..... maybe.

RG
the money thing can be overated you know ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 02, 2011, 06:05 AM
roses  smell  better  then  money  ;D

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jun 02, 2011, 04:29 PM
roses  smell  better  then  money  ;D


sometimes even fish does too ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 02, 2011, 05:06 PM
roses  smell  better  then  money  ;D


But roses won't buy all the "Stuff" :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 02, 2011, 08:43 PM
very true  my  friend  but i like  hearing  your  fishing  reports   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 03, 2011, 05:10 PM
tied   flies  this  morning  then  took a  trip  to  the OSWEGO  SALMON  SHOP  where  i  was  waited on by a  very  charming lady   and  got to  bs  with larry  a  bit after  i  took a  ride and    tossed a  few  spikes  then  flies  ...no  gaint  fish  but i had  fun  2  smallmouths  added to the excitement  ....it's  nice  the river  is  going  down  but it's still alot of current  so please  be  careful  ....spiders  and  foam beetles  were the  ticket  although  i seen alot of  caddis  flies  ......the  big  gills will  feed  heavy  on them  just  before  dark
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 03, 2011, 05:54 PM
Hmmmmm.I just happen to have an ample supply of elk hair caddis and stimulators. May have to pack a box for tomorrow.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jun 03, 2011, 07:04 PM
I have a good bag of feathers going for ya RG.. But I'm sending some treble hooks for you to tie for my bass lures...   ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 04, 2011, 01:19 AM
Just tell me what you want Dom....you got it!
Bob
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jun 05, 2011, 12:03 PM
sometimes even fish does too ;)
Ya sometimes it does!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 05, 2011, 05:19 PM
Went back to the stream for a bit after dinner. Found a couple of small mouth and a bunch of gills. Mostly I was testing a fly I whipped up.. A bead head dace. Worked like a charm in the high water. So did my "bead head gill killer" ;D

I love non traditional patterns.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 05, 2011, 08:36 PM
RG  we  need  a  12  step  program  .......hello  my  name  is  trapp  and  i'm  a  fly  fisherman ........
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 06, 2011, 01:52 AM
It's about 12 steps from my car to the stream....does that count?

The new fly was awesome. I'll send some along with the leaders. Gotta go to Harbor Freight today and get a cheap battery drill for making leaders. I want to try some leaders with 8/0 thread  for the 3wt. Had some difficulty with the wind last evening. Had to shorten the tippit  considerably to prevent knots.  I also found that my bead head mini bugger spins in heavy current. Man did it twist up the 2.7lb tippit I was using.

All good fun though ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 06, 2011, 01:55 PM
RG  we  need  a  12  step  program  .......hello  my  name  is  trapp  and  i'm  a  fly  fisherman ........
Welcome aboard Trap!! My name is King Perch...and I two, am a flyfisherman! ;D

That package arrived today RG....Jr. will be home from school soon!! ;) Thanks!

LIFE IS GOOD!!

KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 06, 2011, 03:08 PM
Just wait till he pulls that wad of stuff out of the box. It should come out in 1 big clump of trebles and lures :rotflol:

Heck, untangling them should keep him occupied for hours.

RG

P.S.
 I do not have a fly fishing problem. I can quit any time...any time at all....any time I want. It's just that i don't want to quit. I mean, there's this new 5wt I have to build when I get time and those new bead head dace were awesome so I have to tie up a bunch more of those before tomorrow when I go after work and those mini buggers....man those mini buggers....I need to tie more of those...and I've been thinking about a vise that clamps to the steering wheel of my bucket truck so I can tie when I stop.........I repeat....I do not have a problem :-\
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 06, 2011, 05:23 PM
Just wait till he pulls that wad of stuff out of the box. It should come out in 1 big clump of trebles and lures :rotflol:

Heck, untangling them should keep him occupied for hours.

RG

P.S.
 I do not have a fly fishing problem. I can quit any time...any time at all....any time I want. It's just that i don't want to quit. I mean, there's this new 5wt I have to build when I get time and those new bead head dace were awesome so I have to tie up a bunch more of those before tomorrow when I go after work and those mini buggers....man those mini buggers....I need to tie more of those...and I've been thinking about a vise that clamps to the steering wheel of my bucket truck so I can tie when I stop.........I repeat....I do not have a problem :-\
Big clump of trebles and lures???.....YES!!! Man, the look on his face when he opened that box! ;) He tells me...." I need another tackle bag Dad!!" Thanks again RG!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jun 06, 2011, 06:37 PM
Tank and I busted out the 5 wts this weeknd and had a ball! I got some flack from a retired Mod with a flyfishing addiction recently. He was hacking on me for useing minnows with a flyrod.  ::) ::) ;D Buddy...
We hit our favorite Delly rift with real flies this time. There was a solid hatch going on, not huge but perfect for fish activity. When there are a ton of bugs it is hard to compete with the real thing. This was just the right amount that had the fish slashing at most offerings. Many diff bugs hatching - march browns, sulphers, some big drakes, a few diff caddis, even a few blue winges olives. We did our damage on a traditional hares ear wet, a lead wing coachman, and an emerger patter of my own design. Basically it is a standard nymph with a small loop wing made from maribou tips or cdc.  8)
We had  about 3 hours being busy with one of us into a fish most of the time. Mostly 14-17 inch wild rainbows with a few browns mixed in. I did loose a hog of a rainbow after a long battle, oh well...
Heres Tank and the top of the rift. When its "my turn", my ashes go here...  ;D
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/3097/006sae.jpg)
These things in the fast water on fly gear are the ultimate for me! Jump and peel drag at an amazing pace!
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8519/009gfd.jpg)
Should have taken more picts but its hard in waist deep water...
(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5156/003ily.jpg)
Found a few walleyes also...  :whistling:
(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/6461/015ndh.jpg)
Heres a short video. Not easy to hold a rod and camera while netting a fish...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9rxe_Ug484 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9rxe_Ug484)

Oh, and minnow boy - On your buggers that are spinning, try adding a few wraps of lead on the shank near  the rear, it should stabalize em.  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 06, 2011, 08:05 PM
very   nice  dark  cloud
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 07, 2011, 01:42 AM
You two are the definition of fishermen. What a great thing to share that time.

Thanks for the post...and the advice.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 07, 2011, 11:11 AM
Good job Dark Cloud!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Jun 08, 2011, 04:01 PM
 :thumbup_smilie:Sweet . Taking the day off tommorow. Thinking of Resica falls, but the big D sounds good too. Roscoe might be fun too. ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 09, 2011, 05:26 PM
Got out early today an d hit the stream. It was WARM. Body temp. Nothing was doing. Didn't have time to stay till dusk for signs of a hatch. I'm heading out for some walleye in the morning. Probably have to shoot the bass to keep them off the line :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 09, 2011, 05:31 PM
Very warm today! I don't blame you for not hanging out for the hatch! Good luck with Mr. Wally tomorrow!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 09, 2011, 05:47 PM
A couple more in the freezer and I'll have dinner when I come up to fish ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 09, 2011, 05:54 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 10, 2011, 12:47 AM
RG  we  need  a  12  step  program  .......hello  my  name  is  trapp  and  i'm  a  fly  fisherman ........

I was thinkin more towards a 13 step program Trap......Hello my name is FM, I love vodka, and fishing? :D Oh....and work seems to keep getting in the way. :P
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 10, 2011, 12:55 AM
I was thinkin more towards a 13 step program Trap......Hello my name is FM, I love vodka, and fishing? :D Oh....and work seems to keep getting in the way. :P
........Schmooooweeee.......said the hairlip cow  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 10, 2011, 01:26 AM
........Schmooooweeee.......said the hairlip cow  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ehhhh?  Maybe Trap or RG could help me out with your Ol' whapatalian lingo. :w00t: Then again, I probably have more of them genes than them two guys. And I still try to differentiate myself from any resemblance of your genealogy. ;D :rotflol: :flag:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 10, 2011, 01:36 AM
Just picking Gamma...all in fun, talk later.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: hunts2long on Jun 10, 2011, 07:14 AM
Dark Cloud, nice pictures and video....hunts2long
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: walleye1 on Jun 10, 2011, 11:07 AM
........Schmooooweeee.......said the hairlip cow  ;D ;D ;D ;D

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 10, 2011, 11:22 AM
;)
Looks like dinner is on me KP ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 10, 2011, 11:40 AM
;D ;D ;D
Somebody gets it !   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 10, 2011, 05:29 PM
Looks like dinner is on me KP ;D

RG
I knew you could do it!!! :bowdown: Did I mention I have steaks in the freezer to go along with them waldos?? :whistling: Titelines!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 10, 2011, 10:09 PM
Sorry guys, T, almost sucked me into his "thread hijacking" racket. ;)  Carry on Gentleman. Sorry I haven't had much to share here, as my bench has been collecting dust. I need the bug to bite me again. :-\
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 10, 2011, 11:32 PM
Well, there wasn't a flyrod involved, but a lot of finesse if that counts.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 11, 2011, 07:22 AM
Well, there wasn't a flyrod involved, but a lot of finesse if that counts.

RG
Flyrod, spincaster, baitcaster, speyrod, noodlerod, pinreel rod.....don't matter, all fish taste good on the grill!!! ;D--KP

Insomnia RG?? Up a little late ....or up a little early today??

Gonna be a wet day for Meg and Josh for soccer game today!! :P
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 11, 2011, 10:52 AM
Flyrod, spincaster, baitcaster, speyrod, noodlerod, pinreel rod.....don't matter, all fish taste good on the grill!!! ;D--KP

Insomnia RG?? Up a little late ....or up a little early today??

Gonna be a wet day for Meg and Josh for soccer game today!! :P
Nope, I had just gotten home from work. A small night job  retrofitting a bunch of HIDs in a car wash. I'm refreshed now and spending some time on the bench before I hit the stream later today. Trapper sent me some bug bodies and I've been playing with a couple of patterns. I need to tie some of my mini clousers as well.

Then...it's me and the 3wt ;D

Have a good day!
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 12, 2011, 02:46 AM
Yessir KP, I admire your focus with the children, and love to read your posts regarding their ventures! ;) I am very similar in that respect with my two children. Shoot, I'm now a little league baseball coach...and I truly love it.       Allthough, watching the sun set tonight after a couple rain showers on Pleasent lake was very close to Euphoria.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 12, 2011, 12:20 PM
Yessir KP, I admire your focus with the children, and love to read your posts regarding their ventures! ;) I am very similar in that respect with my two children. Shoot, I'm now a little league baseball coach...and I truly love it.       Allthough, watching the sun set tonight after a couple rain showers on Pleasent lake was very close to Euphoria.
That's my main focus in life....all kids in general! Including yours as well, they are our future!! I'll post the soccer report on SNAGGER's thread to tell how the day went yesterday! ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 12, 2011, 04:26 PM
Took a float on the "Loony Toon" today. I had lots of fun. The water was up and pretty stained. Lost all 3 of my conehead wooly buggers too unknown assailants. Damned thieves!

But...the Clouser worked.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fishing/toontrip001.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fishing/toontrip002.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fishing/toontrip003.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fishing/toontrip004.jpg)

A very nice float.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: adkRoy on Jun 12, 2011, 06:16 PM
Nice pictures RG!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jun 12, 2011, 07:40 PM
great pics RG  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: SKUNK-MASTER on Jun 13, 2011, 11:26 AM
looney toon????????            great pics
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 13, 2011, 05:47 PM
My nickname for my "Toon"
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fishing/skeeter004.jpg)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 13, 2011, 08:34 PM
nice   RG 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jun 13, 2011, 08:46 PM
Nice pictures RG...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jun 13, 2011, 09:55 PM
Good stuff RG! I have a really nice "sit on top" kayak but those toons look much nicer to fish out of. I fished sunday down the WB of the Delly with a buddy and he picked up a pontoon at a really good price down there.
The fishing was tough! Not many bugs. We managed a few fish though...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 14, 2011, 12:37 AM
Some great pics of good looking waters you fish on RG. We are gonna hook up before the fat lady sings.....I feel fishing isn't the only common ground shared.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 14, 2011, 12:46 AM
Some great pics of good looking waters you fish on RG. We are gonna hook up before the fat lady sings.....I feel fishing isn't the only common ground shared.
You don't drink Heineken and sneak around in tall lighted signs acting like a buzzard seeking a dead opposum  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 14, 2011, 12:58 AM
You don't drink Heineken and sneak around in tall lighted signs acting like a buzzard seeking a dead opposum  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

But I can respect someone that has a palate for quality beer......and also shares similar "techie" interests. ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 14, 2011, 01:46 AM
Fly fishing is way more technical than changing lightbulbs...well, at least we can make it that way.

I chose the toon because I got a great deal on it from an old sockless hippie, and I had been looking at them for years. I tried a yak and might still get one for longer paddles on still water. A yak is more mobile for sure, but would be a pain in the neck to get in and out of negotiating the shallow areas. I like that I can just step off the toon. I also like the higher platform and the swivel seat. I can stand with my feet on the frame and it's very stable. I've seen others who have made standing platforms for theirs, but I'm hesitant to add weight.

The anchor system sucks. That's gonna change and I'm fabricating a wheel for transporting it to the water. Other than that, the darn thine is a lot of fun. I floated for 6 hours on a stream through town, 1/4 mile from my house...caught fish and never saw a person till I got to the park at the take out. I saw 3 mink, 1 snapping turtle, 4 deer, a fox, a grey owl and an osprey.

Pure fun!
RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 14, 2011, 09:18 AM
Fly fishing is way more technical than changing lightbulbs...well, at least we can make it that way.

I chose the toon because I got a great deal on it from an old sockless hippie, and I had been looking at them for years. I tried a yak and might still get one for longer paddles on still water. A yak is more mobile for sure, but would be a pain in the neck to get in and out of negotiating the shallow areas. I like that I can just step off the toon. I also like the higher platform and the swivel seat. I can stand with my feet on the frame and it's very stable. I've seen others who have made standing platforms for theirs, but I'm hesitant to add weight.

The anchor system sucks. That's gonna change and I'm fabricating a wheel for transporting it to the water. Other than that, the darn thine is a lot of fun. I floated for 6 hours on a stream through town, 1/4 mile from my house...caught fish and never saw a person till I got to the park at the take out. I saw 3 mink, 1 snapping turtle, 4 deer, a fox, a grey owl and an osprey.

Pure fun!
RG


Those mini pontoons look like fun all around !     Unfortunately, they don't make them for us "Plus" size" fishermen  :-\ ;D
  The other day, I was looking at one of those 2 seater pedal boats that the Yuppies can be seen in/on along the shorelines of any lake in the symmer.   I got to thinking how one could be converted into a fishing pontoon for Big Men !
  We could get our daily cardiovascular excercise while we fish.....and still have room for a big cooler full of food and refreshments  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: drowndin dots on Jun 14, 2011, 09:30 AM



    you dont need a big cooler for fireball ... but the food :o :o ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 14, 2011, 09:46 AM


    you dont need a big cooler for fireball ... but the food :o :o ;)
I have a BIG tank ! ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 14, 2011, 10:51 AM
Those mini pontoons look like fun all around !     Unfortunately, they don't make them for us "Plus" size" fishermen  :-\ ;D
  The other day, I was looking at one of those 2 seater pedal boats that the Yuppies can be seen in/on along the shorelines of any lake in the symmer.   I got to thinking how one could be converted into a fishing pontoon for Big Men !
  We could get our daily cardiovascular excercise while we fish.....and still have room for a big cooler full of food and refreshments  ;D ;D ;D
I CAN PUT YOU ON THE KP GENERAL CONSTRUCTION CARDIOVASCULAR PROGRAM! I'M BURIED WITH WORK, I NEED EXTRA HELP, YOU NEED TO LOSE A FEW #'S.... AS A BONUS....I'LL BUY YOU YOUR VERY OWN "TOON" SOUNDS LIKE DEAL TO ME! I'm working in Cleveland....7 am tomorrow! DON'T BE LATE!--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 14, 2011, 11:16 AM
I CAN PUT YOU ON THE KP GENERAL CONSTRUCTION CARDIOVASCULAR PROGRAM! I'M BURIED WITH WORK, I NEED EXTRA HELP, YOU NEED TO LOSE A FEW #'S.... AS A BONUS....I'LL BUY YOU YOUR VERY OWN "TOON" SOUNDS LIKE DEAL TO ME! I'm working in Cleveland....7 am tomorrow! DON'T BE LATE!--KP ;D
I don't know much about construction but I make a great "Job Site Coordinator" or  "Material handler/Go Fur"  :whistling: :whistling: ;D

  I was up and out of the house at 6 AM this morning !    Fished until 8:30 at a local spot .  Mowing a few lawns next !      I still got a little fire left !   

  about the size of a lit match :whistling:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: SKUNK-MASTER on Jun 14, 2011, 11:37 AM
those things look like a blast.........r yer feet in the water??
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 14, 2011, 01:31 PM
I don't know much about construction but I make a great "Job Site Coordinator" or  "Material handler/Go Fur"  :whistling: :whistling: ;D

  I was up and out of the house at 6 AM this morning !    Fished until 8:30 at a local spot .  Mowing a few lawns next !      I still got a little fire left !   

  about the size of a lit match :whistling:
You still got it...for an 'Ol Buzzard!! ;D When we going fishing??--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 14, 2011, 04:07 PM
those things look like a blast.........r yer feet in the water??
Not all the time. You can get as wet as you want. On deep still water you fish from the toon. You can stay high and dry. On streams I like to stop and fish pools wading.

Gamma,
 Maybe you just need to join Guinea Craig....I mean Jenny craig.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 14, 2011, 04:21 PM
Not all the time. You can get as wet as you want. On deep still water you fish from the toon. You can stay high and dry. On streams I like to stop and fish pools wading.

Gamma,
 Maybe you just need to join Guinea Craig....I mean Jenny craig.
RG
Don't go easy on him RG!! I have the perfect fitness program for him!! ;)  It only hurts for a little while GAMMA!! ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jun 14, 2011, 04:32 PM
The Toon my buddy just bought is rated for 400 pounds. Even with us "husky" gents, that leaves alot of freeboard for drinks, food, and gear...

p.s. - I had to make a quick trip to SYR today and stopped at the Cortland Factory Store. Was my first time in the new store and I was thoroughly impressed! Big clean store, lots of product, great clearence prices, good regular prices, And the guy running it was cool....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 14, 2011, 05:06 PM
Don't go easy on him RG!! I have the perfect fitness program for him!! ;)  It only hurts for a little while GAMMA!! ;D--KP 8)
I'd take him with me, but he would be confused by the lack of "UP/Down" buttons on the ladders.

Good news about Cortland's store. I can't wait to be in the area.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jun 14, 2011, 06:02 PM

Good news about Cortland's store. I can't wait to be in the area.
RG

Bad news buddy... they have rod blanks!  :w00t:
I picked up a 9ft 5 wt "diamondback" blank for 40$!
Thier finished rods looked real nice for the prices also...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 14, 2011, 07:30 PM
The Toon my buddy just bought is rated for 400 pounds. Even with us "husky" gents, that leaves alot of freeboard for drinks, food, and gear...More information please !

p.s. - I had to make a quick trip to SYR today and stopped at the Cortland Factory Store. Was my first time in the new store and I was thoroughly impressed! Big clean store, lots of product, great clearence prices, good regular prices, And the guy running it was cool....
You should have called so I could have dropped off your horseradish and dead little fish  ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jun 14, 2011, 07:47 PM
You should have called so I could have dropped off your horseradish and dead little fish  ;D ;D

Oh, I thought of that, but it was a quick work trip...

Went up the neighbors pond with the flyrod this eveining. Got a bunch gills "bigger than your hand" type.  ;D
Fished a hopper/spider I tied with a small bead head pt nymph hanging 2ft off the back. The fish took both 50/50...
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2986/004tcma.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 14, 2011, 11:06 PM
Oh, I thought of that, but it was a quick work trip...

Went up the neighbors pond with the flyrod this eveining. Got a bunch gills "bigger than your hand" type.  ;D
Fished a hopper/spider I tied with a small bead head pt nymph hanging 2ft off the back. The fish took both 50/50...
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2986/004tcma.jpg)
You've been feeding those gills fake bugs for years !    Give them some meat and some growth hormones so we can see one over 14 inches in the future! :whistling: :whistling: :whistling:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 15, 2011, 12:56 AM
Not all the time. You can get as wet as you want. On deep still water you fish from the toon. You can stay high and dry. On streams I like to stop and fish pools wading.

Gamma,
 Maybe you just need to join Guinea Craig....I mean Jenny craig.RG

  :D Now that is funny, and I didn't even put you up to making that comment.....as that is my favorite nickname for that ponytailed........friend of mine! ;D Was up "T"?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 15, 2011, 01:36 AM
  :D Now that is funny, and I didn't even put you up to making that comment.....as that is my favorite nickname for that ponytailed........friend of mine! ;D Was up "T"?
Wide awake do to some activities happening across the street ::) ::)
 Punks fighting on the corner.....again !     If they don't knock each other out, I'm gonna give them a hand  >:( >:(

   I though you were putting Schmooee the Hairlip Cow out to pasture before midnight ! ;D ;D :whistling: :whistling:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jun 15, 2011, 01:57 AM
I no comprehend???? :P
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 15, 2011, 03:10 AM
I no comprehend???? :P
Then hop on your burro and get back to Jaurez.....Amigo  ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 15, 2011, 10:20 AM
Bad news buddy... they have rod blanks!  :w00t:
I picked up a 9ft 5 wt "diamondback" blank for 40$!
Thier finished rods looked real nice for the prices also...

thats  a     smokin   deal!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: OTIS on Jun 15, 2011, 11:22 AM
Where is the new Cortland Factory Store?   ???
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jun 15, 2011, 12:07 PM
Where is the new Cortland Factory Store?   ???

Not sure of the exit number but it is the "main" Cortland exit and the store is in the little strip mall behind McDonalds and Arbys. Cant miss it...

thats  a     smokin   deal!

They had quite a few of them in all diff  lengths and weights...

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 15, 2011, 03:05 PM
Jay,
Are those the glass Blanks?

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 15, 2011, 05:12 PM
I'd take him with me, but he would be confused by the lack of "UP/Down" buttons on the ladders.
Good news about Cortland's store. I can't wait to be in the area.
RG
:rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jun 15, 2011, 07:29 PM
Jay,
Are those the glass Blanks?

Rg

No... but, it looks like Cortland bought the Diamondback line(from vermont). A little searchin and I found these same blanks for 60 bucks, still a good deal but 40 is better.  ;D
I cant find anything wrong with this blank after looking it over. They had rods built on the same blank for 80$. I asked the guy if we could string one up and put some bend in it? - "sure, no problem". I didnt go outside and cast it but I liked the flex - med/med-fast. Im not a huge fan of real fast fly rods...
I have a friend who wants a fly rod made for under or around 100$. This fits the bill...

Further research found that Cortland has brought back a Diamondback glass blank, these are not those though. I'd be interested in checking out one of the glass blanks...

p.s. - they had a TON of fly lines at great prices...
Also a 7ft 6in med-fast spinning rod that fealt great for only 30$ - gotta be mass produced over-seas...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 15, 2011, 07:58 PM
No... but, it looks like Cortland bought the Diamondback line(from vermont). A little searchin and I found these same blanks for 60 bucks, still a good deal but 40 is better.  ;D
I cant find anything wrong with this blank after looking it over. They had rods built on the same blank for 80$. I asked the guy if we could string one up and put some bend in it? - "sure, no problem". I didnt go outside and cast it but I liked the flex - med/med-fast. Im not a huge fan of real fast fly rods...
I have a friend who wants a fly rod made for under or around 100$. This fits the bill...

Further research found that Cortland has brought back a Diamondback glass blank, these are not those though. I'd be interested in checking out one of the glass blanks...

p.s. - they had a TON of fly lines at great prices...
Also a 7ft 6in med-fast spinning rod that fealt great for only 30$ - gotta be mass produced over-seas...
Want to take a shot at reproducing a Cabelsa CS 900 ? :whistling: :whistling:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jun 15, 2011, 08:11 PM
Want to take a shot at reproducing a Cabelsa CS 900 ? :whistling: :whistling:

You should really put a micrometer on that blank before they are all gone...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 15, 2011, 09:18 PM
You should really put a micrometer on that blank before they are all gone...
Good point  ;)  When do you want to measure it up for me ? ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 16, 2011, 01:54 AM
A CS900 went on ebay a while back for $23.90. They were a nice crappie rod. I had a 9' St Croix Premier that I liked pretty well too. But it self destructed after 25 years of abuse. The tip lives on as an ice rod ;D

I'd love to throw together  2 and  4wt glass rods for dries. I think it may be a good Saturday afternoon road trip.

You didn't happen to notice their hours did you?

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: OTIS on Jun 16, 2011, 06:39 AM
Also a 7ft 6in med-fast spinning rod that fealt great for only 30$ - gotta be mass produced over-seas...

DC, was that 7' 6" rod a one piece?

Thanks!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jun 16, 2011, 09:59 PM
I'd love to throw together  2 and  4wt glass rods for dries. I think it may be a good Saturday afternoon road trip.

You didn't happen to notice their hours did you?

RG

Looked it up on-line - open sat 9-5, sunday 9-3. Let me know if your making a road trip...

DC, was that 7' 6" rod a one piece?

Thanks!

I dont remember but I think it might have been...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 17, 2011, 01:40 AM
I'll do that, Won't be this Saturday. I have to go kill some bass for Pete ;D
Thanks,
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: eyedoktr on Jun 17, 2011, 05:49 AM
I'll do that, Won't be this Saturday. I have to go kill some bass for Pete ;D
Thanks,
RG

Thank you sir.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: OTIS on Jun 17, 2011, 11:59 AM
Quote from: Otis
DC, was that 7' 6" rod a one piece?

Thanks!

I don't remember but I think it might have been...

I couldn't take it and called them up.  It is a one piece.  I can get three of these for the price of the St. Croix I was thinking of getting.  I may have to take a ride and get myself a fathers day present.

Thanks DC!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 17, 2011, 04:58 PM
Thank you sir.
Any time buddy......I'm here for ya ;D

I've been averaging a couple of nice walleye each trip out. I'm sure that will slow with the rising water temps. I tied up a bunch of wooly buggers to toss

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jun 17, 2011, 09:21 PM
I don't remember but I think it might have been...


I couldn't take it and called them up.  It is a one piece.  I can get three of these for the price of the St. Croix I was thinking of getting.  I may have to take a ride and get myself a fathers day present.

Thanks DC!

Im not gonna call it a St Croix, but it was a prety nice rod for 30 bones. Let me know iffin yu head south...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 29, 2011, 04:30 PM
Well???????? ???
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: OTIS on Jun 30, 2011, 07:14 AM
I ended up getting one of the rods and its really nice.  A great rod for $30!  They also have a decent assortment of tying materials, sooooo I had to pick up some of that while I was there too.  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 04, 2011, 04:57 PM
first  thanks  to those  that  knew  about  my   family   emercancy  and    the   kind  words  and  offers  to those  that  didn't know   i  know   in my heart  you  were  all  just a  phomne  call away  ...ty 

now  i might  be  stuck  for  a  few  days   close  to  home  but i  will  be  out  on  the  water  tossing   feathers  and   foam , i  plan on  being  in  the  kayak   at  first light   and    meeting  up  with  mr  gaint  gill   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 05, 2011, 07:19 AM
Go Gettum Trap!! Prayers go out to your wife for a speedy recovery!! ;)--KP :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 05, 2011, 12:49 PM
she's  doing  good  kp  and  thank you!!!!

i  pressure  washed   my  kayak  and been on the  fly bench  for awhile  today  ,i'm waiting  for reinforcements  to show  up here then i'm hitting  the  lake  with a  box  of  flies   ;D i got a  feeling  i'll  have  something  making  the  rod bend 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 07, 2011, 11:35 AM
another  fun  morning   few  small gills  one   bass   then i  seen my  prey  ...close  to  the  shore  ....he  was  skillfully    eating  off the  surface  ....  i  carefully  tossed  a  rubber  spider over  and   slowly  worked  it  exactly  where  he  was  working  ....suddenly   i  seen  the  lips moving  and  the   fly  disappear  !!!!  a  slow  hook set  and   IT  WAS  ON!!!!!  he  acted  like   a  volkswagon  pulling  me  around  it  was  a  long  battle   but    after  awhile  is  golden   body  was   next  to  the  kayak   exhusted   , a  quick  release   and   i  sat  back to  finish my  coffee  and  got to thinking .  few  years  ago   i  considered  this  fish  a  waste  ,now i  see it  as  a  sports  fish  ....RG  thanks   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 07, 2011, 12:00 PM
We help each other...life is good!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 08, 2011, 06:02 AM
headed  to the lake  get  some  sun and  sunfish   ;D........life  is good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 20, 2011, 02:03 PM
working  on  the  kayak  i     rolled  it   and   had  to  do  a  wet  exit    ...no  biggy     no  problem   getting  back  in    the  problem  was   bulging  it  out   with  my  hand  pump  ...what  a    pain  in  the    buttock  ....anyways   i seen   electric  bulge  pumps  in  yaks    and   i'm   starting  the  project  i  will  get  pictures  and  post  as  i  do  it
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 20, 2011, 02:08 PM
Trap...what are you doing rolling your yak? You're too old for that stuff. :nono:

Did "Ole Liver Lips" take you for a sleigh ride?

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 20, 2011, 02:25 PM
no  i  hit  a  wave  and  was   farting  around  lol   most   times  i  can    eskomo  roll  it   right  back   but  i  fell  out   :D  anyways   all  good     but  i  am  hooking  up  a electric  bulge   pump
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 20, 2011, 03:37 PM
You need a battery? I just may know where there's a 17ah, 12v battery or 2 ;D They're about 4"deep x 9"wide by 10" tall. You can charge them with a 1.5v smart charger. Plenty to run a small bilge pump.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 20, 2011, 03:41 PM
no  i  hit  a  wave  and  was   farting  around  lol   most   times  i  can    eskomo  roll  it   right  back   but  i  fell  out   :D  anyways   all  good     but  i  am  hooking  up  a electric  bulge   pump
I'm just glad you came back up for air Trap!! ;D Don't need to be reading any bad reports with your name attached to them!! ;) Crazy 'ol buzzard!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 21, 2011, 06:59 PM
i'm  all  good  my  friend  lol 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 21, 2011, 09:54 PM
Your stories always amaze me Trap..! :D Happy to hear your old bones managed to save ya. ;) I've got an old pump in my basement that works off 12V. that might work fine.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 22, 2011, 08:32 AM
  i   got  a  pump   and  RG  is  hooking  me  up  with  a   battery    lance    and  i  still  have  my   hand   bilge  pump   for  back  up  ....   first  time  i   did  a  wet  exit   and  i  didn't   even  mean  to  yet   it  went  perfect  ....God  i'm  good   even  when  it's  on  accident ! ;D  life  is   good  ...laugh
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 23, 2011, 07:53 AM
  i   got  a  pump   and  RG  is  hooking  me  up  with  a   battery    lance    and  i  still  have  my   hand   bilge  pump   for  back  up  ....   first  time  i   did  a  wet  exit   and  i  didn't   even  mean  to  yet   it  went  perfect  ....God  i'm  good   even  when  it's  on  accident  ! ;D  life  is   good  ...laugh
Jr. and I are going out with flyrods to catch about 50 fish....on accident. ;) Hey, It works for Trapper! ;D!! Titelines to all you FLYHEADS!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jul 23, 2011, 07:59 AM
Jr. and I are going out with flyrods to catch about 50 fish....on accident. ;) Hey, It works for Trapper! ;D!! Titelines to all you FLYHEADS!--KP 8)


                         Good luck guys.....   Take some pictures..... ;D ;D ;D





   
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 23, 2011, 08:24 AM

                         Good luck guys.....   Take some pictures..... ;D ;D ;D





   
Flyrods tomorrow RD!! Taking the family and another couple on a whitewater rafting trip down the Salmon River today at noon! I'll try to get some photos while we are drifting down!! ;)--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 23, 2011, 08:27 AM
He's by far an OLD FART, but, KP Jr. will take all the credit for these!!! Great job Josh! :bowdown:http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae145/KingPerch/IMAG0130.jpg[/img]](http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae145/KingPerch/IMAG0130.jpg) (http://[IMG) Life is good!--KP :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 23, 2011, 09:15 AM
Yup!! Tied all them myself!!! Lotsa different color combinations!!--Kp Jr.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 23, 2011, 09:35 AM
Go get em in the water bud!

Nice work :clapping:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 23, 2011, 10:19 AM
nice  work  there    JR   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 24, 2011, 12:50 AM
Yup!! Tied all them myself!!! Lotsa different color combinations!!--Kp Jr.


Nice job Buddy! Your dad should be proud of ya. I know that I am.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 26, 2011, 07:38 AM
Nice job Buddy! Your dad should be proud of ya. I know that I am.
Thanks Everybody!!! Worked very hard at those!!!I especially like the Green and black ones!!!---Jr.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 1fish@atime on Jul 26, 2011, 07:52 AM
Very,Very nice....Your becoming a master!!!!  Sure beats anything I can tie..... ;D
 
Hope they bring you lots of fish and fun!!  Great to see young people enjoying the nuances of the sport of fishing!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 26, 2011, 07:57 AM
Very,Very nice....Your becoming a master!!!!  Sure beats anything I can tie..... ;D
 
Hope they bring you lots of fish and fun!!  Great to see young people enjoying the nuances of the sport of fishing!!
Thanks!! I actually just took up tying a couple of weeks  ago!!! Nothing close to the quality flies that Rg and Trapper tie though!! Im getting there!!I was actually gonna head over across the road in a little bit to try them out on the bass!!! Oh and the bluegills too!!!--Jr.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 26, 2011, 08:03 AM
WAIT  A  MINUTE  ....quality??????  whats  that   ?????  if   you  have  fun!  catch   fish  on  your   flies   then  thats   quility  !!!!   your   flies  are  as  good  as  mine   anyday  of  the week .... fish  on  is  a  fish  on!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 26, 2011, 08:15 AM
WAIT  A  MINUTE  ....quality??????  whats  that   ?????  if   you  have  fun!  catch   fish  on  your   flies   then  thats   quility  !!!!   your   flies  are  as  good  as  mine   anyday  of  the week .... fish  on  is  a  fish  on!
i know but i still gotta learn all the good patterns and practice makes perfect!!! They arre very good Just gotta practice more and try different patterns!! You dont know how good you are untill you try to push yourself to try the difficult patterns!!! 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 26, 2011, 08:17 AM
i know but i still gotta learn all the good patterns and practice makes perfect!!! They arre very good Just gotta practice more and try different patterns!! You dont know how good you are untill you try to push yourself to try the difficult patterns!!! 

you  are  learning  young  skywalker  ...  may  the  force  be  with  you!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 26, 2011, 08:21 AM
you  are  learning  young  skywalker  ...  may  the  force  be  with  you!

And may the force be with you too Master Trapper!! ;D--The apprentice!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 26, 2011, 09:14 AM
Looks like beginner luck pulled through for me because I caught my first LMB on my very own wooly Bugger!!!Yellow Chenille and black hackle and tail was the ticket before it started raining and thunder and lightning!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 26, 2011, 11:06 AM
Those flys look great there JR. Keep tying bud and keep fishing  ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 26, 2011, 11:47 AM
Those flys look great there JR. Keep tying bud and keep fishing  ;D ;D
oh yes I will!! No doubt about that!!--Jr.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 26, 2011, 04:35 PM
jr   were  waiting  on  a  report   on  the  fishing  today  !!!!  ya   tear  em  up   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 26, 2011, 06:28 PM
That pic of the LMBass he sent me today was great! Good job Buddy! ;) I'll try to get it on here for you guys soon!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 27, 2011, 10:10 AM
jr   were  waiting  on  a  report   on  the  fishing  today  !!!!  ya   tear  em  up   ;D
Well tried this morning for about an hour brought the 8/9 and 5/6 weight over to the pond. I tried wooly buggers(my creations) and some strike indicator terrestrials and some crayfish patterns. Had one hit all morning and that was it. Yesterday i was over there twice and caught three Largemouths( two shortys and 1 nice sized) all on my flies!!! Water over there is down about a foot and there a weeds everywhere except for in the front. Early season there after iceout is primetime for 'gills and bass!!--Kp Jr.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 27, 2011, 10:51 AM
sounds  like  your  having  fun !!!!!   and  on  your  flies   huh  ....gee   didn't  some  old  fart tell you , yours  are  as  good  as  anyones   ;D...great  job 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 28, 2011, 04:13 PM
sounds  like  your  having  fun !!!!!   and  on  your  flies   huh  ....gee   didn't  some  old  fart tell you , yours  are  as  good  as  anyones   ;D...great  job 
Yup!! And thanks!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 28, 2011, 04:59 PM
never   doubt   yourself  .....if   your  dad ,  rg ,and  i  believe  in  you  .....   then  most  be  ya  got  something  going  for  yeah  ;D.....  did  i  tell  you  the  most  important  part  of   flyfishing  equipment  is  a  yankees  hat?????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 28, 2011, 05:10 PM
never   doubt   yourself  .....if   your  dad ,  rg ,and  i  believe  in  you  .....   then  most  be  ya  got  something  going  for  yeah  ;D.....  did  i  tell  you  the  most  important  part  of   flyfishing  equipment  is  a  yankees  hat?????
:rotflol: :flag: :thumbup_smilie: Jr. is at soccer practice for the first time in 4 weeks. He's just about healed with his hamstring strain. I'm sure you'll hear back from Jr. about the Yankees hat!!! ;D Life is good!--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Jul 29, 2011, 08:17 AM
never   doubt   yourself  .....if   your  dad ,  rg ,and  i  believe  in  you  .....   then  most  be  ya  got  something  going  for  yeah  ;D.....  did  i  tell  you  the  most  important  part  of   flyfishing  equipment  is  a  yankees  hat?????
Nope sorry the only thing i wear fishing is a BOSTON hat!!! I think.... just maybe... that the RED SOX are on top in their division!!! By i think 3 or 2 games ahead!! ;D ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 29, 2011, 02:51 PM
it's   good  to  have  a  red  sox's  hat  with  you!  ...never   know   when  mother  nature  will  call   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: drowndin dots on Jul 29, 2011, 03:01 PM
it's   good  to  have  a  red  sox's  hat  with  you!  ...never   know   when  mother  nature  will  call   ;D
:clapping: :clapping: :rotflol: :rotflol: :thumbup_smilie: :flag: go yankees  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 29, 2011, 05:07 PM
Hmmmmmph...I always thought it was Yankees

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jul 29, 2011, 05:09 PM
Hmmmmmph...I always thought it was Yankees

RG
And he said I drink too much Fireball  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jul 29, 2011, 05:23 PM
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9784/bustedtees46e00c44248ac.gif)

And before anyone gets thier panties in a bunch, its a joke...
Although I do dislike the Yanks about that much...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: drowndin dots on Jul 29, 2011, 05:32 PM
And he said I drink too much Fireball  ::) ::) ::)
drats ......  :P gotta start proofreading
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 29, 2011, 05:51 PM
 :rotflol:   dark  cloud  tho   shall  burn  in  the  darkest   depths  for  that  one
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 30, 2011, 06:23 AM
funny   how   time  slips  bye  ...   were  looking  at  the  beginning  of   augest  ! clousers and   bait  fish imitations...crayfish  and  wollybuggers   down   deep  ....  terrestrials  on  top  ....frogs  and  gurgglers   for   bass....  in  away  it's  my  favorite   time , so  much  less   pressure in  the  streams  and    fish  are  not  as  selective ....low  water   streams  i  look   for   cooler  temps   and  oxygen in  lakes     structor  it's  the  lazy    days  of   mid  summer  after  fishing  a  stop  at  the  ice cream  stand  with  the  women  or  the   grand  kids  is a  must,   remebering   a  extra  water  bottle  ....smell  of  sun  screen  .... seeing  the   woodchuck  in  the  newly   hayed   field  and  thinking  he'd  make  some  nice  flies  .....   but  i  like  watching  him  run  even  more .....the   young  geese   are  grown   and  yuck  at  the  launch....i see  a  hot   dog  truck  pulling  in  by  the  lake ;D............. LIFE  IS  GOOD  !!!!! 

The great charm of fly-fishing is that we are always learning." - Theodore Gordon

"I don't want to sit at the head table anymore. I want to go fishing." - George Bush

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 30, 2011, 09:23 AM
All the charm of the angler's life would be lost but for these hours of thought and memory. All along the brook, all day on lake or river, while he takes his sport, he thinks. All the long evenings in camp, or cottage, or inn, he tells stories of his own life, hears stories of his friend's lives, and if alone calls up the magic of memory.

LIFE IS GOOD!!

KP :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 30, 2011, 12:12 PM
touche' 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 01, 2011, 05:51 AM
buddys  beer  and  bluegills ...the  perfect  combo ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 01, 2011, 03:28 PM
buddys  beer  and  bluegills ...the  perfect  combo --Trapper2000  2011;D
;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 08, 2011, 04:24 PM
Hey RG...remember that SMbass hole?? Not too much water left in that stream as of Saturday! :-\ Lot's of fish though...no takers on any pattern. Not even crayfish!--KP 8)

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 08, 2011, 04:44 PM
Sure do! They've probably eaten everything in sight by now.

I have an R&R day tomorrow compliments of the owner of the company I work for. I'm going to Long Island next week to train some contractors and roll out a major project. He gifted me a day of fly fishing for the  effort. Kinda nice really.

So....I'll have breakfast with the "Grumpy Old Men" and hit the stream. The fish were on fire yesterday, so I'm looking forward to a good day.

Beats the hell out of work ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 08, 2011, 06:24 PM
Enjoy your Grumpy breakfast! :P More importantly...enjoy that day off to fish! ;) Have fun!--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 08, 2011, 06:30 PM
i just  beat  up a  old  carp  and  made  him pull my  kayak  around   ;D...carp are  like  salmon they  like  yellow  foam 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 08, 2011, 06:35 PM
i just  beat  up a  old  carp  and  made  him pull my  kayak  around   ;D...carp are  like  salmon they  like  yellow  foam 
:rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :flex:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 08, 2011, 06:35 PM
While you're down there, try top stop at the Connequot hatchery and take some pictures of the concrete at the bottom of the fish rearing ponds ! ;) ::) ;D ;D ;D
Your always up to no good GAMMA!! ::)--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 08, 2011, 06:36 PM
it's Connetquot ,must  be  google  isn't  working
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 08, 2011, 06:38 PM
it's Connetquot ,must  be  google  isn't  working
Yep, your right Trap! I just Googled it myself!! Your getting pretty good in your 'Ol buzzard years! ;)--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 08, 2011, 06:42 PM
getting  the  best  of  gamma  don't  take  much  effort  ,besides  my  friends  of  the Connetquot news  letter  sets  here  .....  has anyone  ever  actually  seen  gamma  walk a  stream?????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 08, 2011, 06:51 PM
Only after drinking all night..... :w00t: He walks when he relieves himself! :laugh:--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WaynefromMaine on Aug 08, 2011, 08:58 PM
Only after drinking all night..... :w00t: He walks when he relieves himself! :laugh:--KP 8)
   You guy's are beyond hilarious.... :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 09, 2011, 12:07 AM
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9784/bustedtees46e00c44248ac.gif)

And before anyone gets thier panties in a bunch, its a joke...
Although I do dislike the Yanks about that much...

C'mon now DC? Don't make me have to fish with you man!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 09, 2011, 12:10 AM
getting  the  best  of  gamma  don't  take  much  effort  ,besides  my  friends  of  the Connetquot news  letter  sets  here  .....  has anyone  ever  actually  seen  gamma  walk a  stream?????

Well......I've seen him make his own stream, after a night of adult beverages! Bout it though. ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 09, 2011, 12:59 AM
I have to get some pictures of the "club". We've been eating breakfast together for near 30 years now. One of our guys is going through chemo for lung cancer now so and he had t-shirts made up for the group. They say "Grumpy Old Men Breakfast Club" on the back. I think he did it as a "Parting gesture" but he may have fooled himself. He's getting better ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 09, 2011, 06:58 AM
RG  my  prayers  to  your  friend , he  sounds  like  my kind  of people   :thumbup_smilie:  ......cheers  to "ther  grumpy  old men  breakfest  club"
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 09, 2011, 07:19 AM
I wish the very best for your friend! Hope you have a great day of fishing today!--KP ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 09, 2011, 07:27 AM
I'm just waiting for some thunder to pass before I head out. Don't like those big sparks in the sky when I'm flailing a lightning rod around in the air.
Thanks for the warm wishes guys. Bruce is the brother of my late friend Gary who died at Sodus when he went through the ice a while back. He is the best of people and one tough SOB. I'm pretty sure he's gonna kick Cancer's ass.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 10, 2011, 05:46 AM
NEW KAYAK!!!!!  i just  stoped  at  dicks  and  got  a  future beach 120  sit  on kayak  it  serves   a  few  purposes  ,  grandkids  and   little  lady  now  can  go! second  it's  easy  to  set up  and  gives  me  more  room  .....i  won't  get  rid  of my  sit in but  dicks  is  dumping kayaks  cheap ,anyone  interested  in  kayak fishing  ,now  is  the  time  to  go  look at a  yak!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Aug 10, 2011, 08:52 AM
NEW KAYAK!!!!!  i just  stoped  at  dicks  and  got  a  future beach 120  sit  on kayak  it  serves   a  few  purposes  ,  grandkids  and   little  lady  now  can  go! second  it's  easy  to  set up  and  gives  me  more  room  .....i  won't  get  rid  of my  sit in but  dicks  is  dumping kayaks  cheap ,anyone  interested  in  kayak fishing  ,now  is  the  time  to  go  look at a  yak!!!!
Good for you Trap!!!That would certainly be some fun there!!! Fly fishing from a 'Yak!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 10, 2011, 01:40 PM
WELL JR  I  DO ALL THE  TIME  BUT NOW  I  HAVE  2  EXTRA  YOU  DO KNOW  YOU AND  YOUR  DAD  ARE  ALWAYS  WELCOMED   ;D  BUT  YOU  STILL  HAVE  TO  SHOW  ME  THAT  TRICK WITH A  PERCH  EYE  ON  SANDY POND!!!!! ;D :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch Jr. on Aug 10, 2011, 05:28 PM
WELL JR  I  DO ALL THE  TIME  BUT NOW  I  HAVE  2  EXTRA  YOU  DO KNOW  YOU AND  YOUR  DAD  ARE  ALWAYS  WELCOMED   ;D  BUT  YOU  STILL  HAVE  TO  SHOW  ME  THAT  TRICK WITH A  PERCH  EYE  ON  SANDY POND!!!!! ;D :thumbup_smilie:
I will the show you the perch eye trick and I might take you up on that offer Trap!!! Thanks for offering!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 21, 2011, 10:28 AM
still tossing  to  gills  bass  and  carp ;D i  think  the  rain  will  help
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 22, 2011, 05:06 AM
flyrod,rain jacket,bluegills  ................. ;D  going  to  be a  great  day
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 22, 2011, 04:21 PM
great  time    playing  with  the  gills   ;D  nice  to meet gillkiller13126 and  his  buddy  today!  i'll  be  back  in the  morning   ;D....  i  did well and  ended up with a    few  fish  for  dinner 


Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 23, 2011, 01:02 AM
Congrats on the new Yak Trapper.

RG.....get ahold of me if you would like to spend a day on the little lake. This year has been above my expectations, regarding the quality of fish taken.  Same goes for you Trapp. 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 23, 2011, 12:07 PM
heres  a  run  down  on  my  bluegill  flyfishing  adventour   of  today!  
 i  got  to  the  marina   and   between  a   nymph  and  a  spider  i   caught  fish  till  my  arm  hurt  again   ;D

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little  top  water  action  on  spiders  and   tent  worms


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i been  getting  use  to  the  rod  bent   last week  ;D

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average about  7  inches  not  the  biggest   gills   but   theres  so  many ;D


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basic s  fly box   strick  indicators    fly  rod  and  fish :D

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dinner
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 24, 2011, 01:32 AM
You are a Trooper Trapp! although, I must say 7 inches is a definate toss back in the "little lake". This year, 8 1/2 to 9 is the minimum size for keepers. I've witnessed the water "boiling" with surfacing fish twice now this year. Like I've said previousy, the conservation efforts that a few of us have put into that body of water over the past few years are certainly starting pay off. Let me know when you guys are ready for some of these?
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/fishingmechanic/p-lake8-17-11006.jpg)

Bring the fly rods!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 24, 2011, 06:23 AM
hey  give  me  a  call  so   i  can  stop out  and  take  care  of  that matter  man!  ya  treated  us    good  lance and i  don't  forget !   i'll  go  anytime  i  honestly  been  burning  the   gills  up  and   having  fun  doing  it  .....  oh  last  night  i  tried   RG"S WORLD  FAMOUS  BEAD CHAIN DACE  !!!!!  yup  they  loved  it  along  with  a  small latrge  mouth  a  couple  smallies  and  2  crappies   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 24, 2011, 11:38 AM
well  fish  slowed   down  this  morning   but    flyfishing  is  never   about  just  the  fish  and  today    turned  out  to  be  a  great  day  anyways  ,  i  had  the  pleasure    to  met  a   man  named  erwin  and  his  son  noah  ...  nice   people   from  PA  ,  they  were    touring  our  river  system  on there  boat  and  spent  the  night   at  fulton  last  nigh  ...what  made  them  so  interesting  is  they  built  there  own    boat  !  and  i  got  to  check it  out  ,  it  was   nice  to see  a  father  and  son  building  memorys  and     enjoying   life   together  not  to mention  the   joy  of  doing  it   in  something   they  constructed!   my  hats   off  to  them ....  the  boating  worls   own  easyriders  ...  be  save   and    was    great  to  met  you  both !


(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/22boat.jpg)

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/2boat.jpg)

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/23boat.jpg)


was  a  cool  boat
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 05, 2011, 01:29 PM
Must be all the Old Farts are out fishing!! ;D--KP ;D
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Post by: rgfixit on Sep 05, 2011, 02:24 PM
 Yes I was!
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 05, 2011, 03:51 PM
We attempted today, but, we had soaking rain all day!! Good and bad! Good for the rivers and streams, bad for Jr.! He starts school tomorrow, we stayed in and played with steelhead flies, foam flies and everything flies ;D. We picked up a ton of new materials a few weeks back and SNAGGER gave Josh a ton of materials that he had at his lodge. Thanks Shane! We have been busy at the bench! ;)--KP :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 28, 2011, 06:02 PM
as  i  reflect  a  line  from  a  classic  movie  pops  in my  head  ...."theres  no  place  like  home ,theres  no place  like  home, theres  no place  like  home "...................  scott  seriously  thank  you  ...i missed  this  place 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 28, 2011, 06:06 PM
Welcome back....ya old fart!  ;D ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 29, 2011, 09:13 AM
i'm  old  but  i  can  make  a  dry  fly land  sweet  and  soft  on   the  water   ;D  thank  you  RG  ,   today  i  have  to  head  up  to pulaski  to  get  some  tying  supplys   then  hitting  the  afternoon  shift  down  to  the  river  ....  i'll poke  and  hope  till i  find  some  good  gills  .....  then i'm    going  to  relax  at  the  bench  eat  homemade  apple  sauce   and   tying  flies  ...   the  yankees  are  in  the  playoffs  ...the  bills  are  undefeated  ...  and  my  house hold  appears  to  be  healthy  this  week ....  life  is  good  ............unless  yer  a  bluegill in my  river   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: OTIS on Sep 29, 2011, 10:15 AM
Welcome back Trapper!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 29, 2011, 12:13 PM
THANK  YOU  OTIS!   NOW  LETS  GET  SOME  FISH  HAVE  SOME  LAUGHS  AND   SHARE  SOME  INFO  OR  STORIES!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 30, 2011, 01:02 AM
Speaking of fly rods....I just picked up a perfect FF856 Fenwick to feed my rod/reel addiction. It's the same model as my very first fly rod. It's early 70's vintage and looks to never have been used. I was happy to replace the one I fished to death long ago. The gills are in trouble Sunday Morning :w00t:

I also acquired a very nice South Bend Oren-O-Matic 1140-d from the 50's for the South Bend collection. I only need 4 more of the "Red Reels" to complete the series.

And I thought my jig collection was a problem :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 30, 2011, 11:02 AM
RG  sometimes  to  go  forward  you  have  to go back   ;D  i'm glad  your  having  such a  good  time  with it !  tomorrow  i plan on  taking  this  here  8 wt  and  using  a  strike  indacator   and  short  line  nymph  fish  ...i'm betting i  can line  ever  salmon in a  run  just  as  slick as  any  center  pin  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 01, 2011, 01:16 PM
RG  sometimes  to  go  forward  you  have  to go back   ;D  i'm glad  your  having  such a  good  time  with it !  tomorrow  i plan on  taking  this  here  8 wt  and  using  a  strike  indacator   and  short  line  nymph  fish  ...i'm betting i  can line  ever  salmon in a  run  just  as  slick as  any  center  pin  ;D
:whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling: :whistling:--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 01, 2011, 01:23 PM
KP  I"M  BACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 01, 2011, 01:27 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 01, 2011, 01:29 PM
You still certain that salmon and steelhead bite beads??  Wait...Oh nevermind!! ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 01, 2011, 01:46 PM
YES  THEY  DO!!!    and  the  check  is  it  the  mail  and...................
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 01, 2011, 02:36 PM
YES  THEY  DO!!!    and  the  check  is  it  the  mail  and...................
:rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 01, 2011, 03:49 PM
Don't get me started :nono:

I think there was a hit man following me for a while after I last expressed my opinion.

I was whipping a line around the back yard today with the "new...old" Fenwick . Man is that thing sweet. Soft and powerful.  I think I'm having stirrings :-[

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 01, 2011, 04:23 PM
Don't get me started :nono:

I think there was a hit man following me for a while after I last expressed my opinion.

I was whipping a line around the back yard today with the "new...old" Fenwick . Man is that thing sweet. Soft and powerful.  I think I'm having stirrings :-[

RG
Sorry RG!! Didn't mean to get the pot stirred.!! ;)--KP :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 01, 2011, 07:55 PM
as  you  can  see  RG  it's  all  KP  ,  he's  the  trouble  maker
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: drowndin dots on Oct 01, 2011, 07:58 PM
as  you  can  see  RG  it's  all  KP  ,  he's  the  trouble  maker
he is , you should hear his antics on the job  :o :o ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 02, 2011, 02:28 AM
We should start a thread about antics on the job....man I've got a million of them....like the bottle rockets under the door and into the port-a-pot while my partner was taking his mid morning constitutional...or catching the squirrel in a havahart trap and letting it go in his van...or nailing the stack of lumber together after he put it where I told him not to (I left him with that one)...or spraying silicone on the handles of all his tools in his electrical pouch....or the 3' garter snake in his truck's glove box (he always put his keys in the glove box)....Oh...I could go on :rotflol: :rotflol:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: drowndin dots on Oct 02, 2011, 06:43 AM


   allright , i was wrong ....KP is a saint compaired to you RG  :evil: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :w00t:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 02, 2011, 06:50 AM
i would  never!!!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 02, 2011, 10:39 AM
You have no idea :P

He was almost as big a prankster as I was. Like the time I was on my back in a ceiling crawl space with a bank of electric heat relays above me and in my face. Little did I know he was flipping the breaker on and off, quickly at least, while I was changing the relay. Didn't take long before ...POOF!...one screwdriver melted.

He found his tool pouch at the deep end of the swimming pool after lunch.

We used to do fire restorations and after the building was trashed out and stripped, I would suit up with an air supply, take the airless in and seal coat the entire interior with white tinted shellac. He was responsible for making sure everything was out of my way. Once I started I didn't stop. On one job when he ignored moving stuff, he ended up with a white sawsall, skillsaw, tool bag, nail apron, hammer, saw horses. ladder, flashlight, extension cord..... etc. If he would only have stood still for a minute..............


I guess we were bookends. :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Oct 02, 2011, 11:49 PM
HA....the true RG comes out now!!  ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 03, 2011, 12:41 AM
Like I said...you have no idea.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 03, 2011, 10:08 PM
well  my addiction  got to me  tonight ,i somehow  found  myself  in gander mtn  and a  redington 456 pursuit was in my  hand!  now  not  the most expensive  reel  but mind you i'm  very old school  only draag i have  ever used  is  the  palm of my hand!  i feel  funny  taking  the  medalist  off and  putting this  on ....  oh well good thing i got  another rod  too :D
..............stormy  lets knock  da  spots  off  them
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 04, 2011, 01:34 AM
You should have said something Trap. I know where you could have gotten an pretty nice South Bend Finalist 1144 for a very reasonable price. No, not mine...another that I've been looking at.

Like I need another :-\

Have fun with it Trap.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 05, 2011, 07:05 PM
RG  i  tested  the  redington  hard   !  only  thing  i  noticed  , anyone  buying  one   make  sure  the  spool is  on tight!  if  not  the  line  will  jump  get  caught  and  you'll be   saying  bad  words!....  actually it  was my oversite!   after  tightning  the  spool  down  the  reel performed   perfectly   and  the   drags  system  was  great ,  glad  gander  was  dumbing  them , if  they  have  more  i'm getting  another ,i  landed  a  total of  7  salmon on it  , worked  flawlessly! 

  i  must  admit  i been  having  fun   chasing   salmon   fishing  a  few   tribs  and  fishing  salmon   river ,  for  me  its  a  trip  back  to  child  hood ,  and  i must  say  i  am impressed   with  the  way  this  group  of  out  of  staters   acted   very  friendly  and  most   very  courteous! i liked  what  i  seen  and   liked  seeing   people   even  setting  up   trash  bags   .... 

now  i'm  going  to  relax  and   ty  up  some  flys   ya  all  have  a  great  night
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 06, 2011, 06:51 PM
what  a  fun  day  ...i  don't  even  know  how  many  fish  i  had  on  but  i kept  3   for  friends  ,  and   i have  to  say  again a  reel  with  a  drag  is  awesome  although  i   caught myself   reaching  to palm it  ,  old  habits  are  hard  to  break  ....

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/2-4.jpg)

i  had  a  great  time   been  meeting  other  old   farts  with  flyrods  ,  been  a  great  week
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 07, 2011, 11:58 AM
a  repeat  of  yesterday  ....  catching  20  or  30 pound  fish in a  small  stream  ;D it'don't  get  no better  then  that
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 07, 2011, 04:18 PM
I'll let you know if it gets better than that after I go perch fishing tomorrow and Sunday ;D Although, I'm torn ...as I'd really like to get the Fenwick, I recently acquired, baptized. :unsure:

I guess I'll decide when I wake in the morning.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 07, 2011, 07:50 PM
RG  i been having  a  great  time  fishing  with  some  other  old  farts  with honest  flyrods    for  salmon  ...  i  think we  drank more  coffee  and  tell more  bs  storys  then  fish  ....kinda  like  being  here  ;D

 why  not  fish  for  perch  in  the  morning  then  go  give  the  fenwick  a  shot   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 08, 2011, 02:13 AM
I hate to miss breakfast with the "Grumpy Old Men Breakfast Club". A Saturday Morning Ritual, don't you know ;D

One or our guys is going through Chemo and I think it kinda helps him feel a little more normal, if you know what I mean. I'll go perchin' tomorrow morning. I have a new camera to play with too. Maybe a ride out to the bluffs and a few other places is in order. My Bride needs some apples too.....she owes me a pie.

Have fun winching in those carp  ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 08, 2011, 05:39 AM
week  end  i  think i'll  go  somewhere  after  panfish ...enjoy  your  day  and  my prayers  to  your  friend  RG  ........
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 09, 2011, 11:42 AM
decide  to  take  a  rest  from salmon  this  morning  so i  enjoyed  a  extra  cup of  coffee,slide  the  yak  in the  truck and  switched   rods  to  the  5wt  ....paddling  felt  so  smooth  as  the  yak  glided  over  the water  i  tossed  nymphs  for a  few smallish  gills  seen a  bass  swirls  near shore  so  tied a  stp  frog on ...maybe  13 incher responded  quickly  ....  so i  unhooked  him and  set back thinking i really  don't  want  this  season to end ,i know  i'll have  steelies and hard water  but this season  on the open water  has been very special .....i  got to meet  so many  fellow  mff people  , got to fish hard  and  was  rewarded well  ....i  can't  help  but  say  thanks   God  ....i may not  have a  lot  of  money  ,but  i'm truely  a  rich  man  ;D

                                                                                                                                                                                          life  is  good 
                                                                                                                                                                                            TRAPP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 11, 2011, 09:29 AM
 flyfishing  zones  with  people  using  ther  rods  like  mouching  rods oz  of  lead   and   a  hook   or  big  raven  floats  and  running  it like a center  pin ????????????? i think every  fisherman  should  call the  dec  and  end  this  flyfishing only water!  it's a  disgrace 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 11, 2011, 06:22 PM
Sorry Trap, but the whole snagging thing is a disgrace. That's all they're doing....snagging. I guess I've had a problem with it since the 70's when the slugs would rip 3oz weighted trebles with 50 lb and surf rods. A bit more technical now...but still the same.

Real trash fishing.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 12, 2011, 01:23 PM
RG  good  to see  you  back  was  getting  worried  about  you  !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 12, 2011, 04:40 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/10-12-2011/DSC00027.jpg)

A shot from about 20'.
Cute little bugger, eh?
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: drowndin dots on Oct 12, 2011, 05:01 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/10-12-2011/DSC00027.jpg)

A shot from about 20'.
Cute little bugger, eh?
RG
chipmunks are hours of entertainment while in a treestand  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 12, 2011, 05:11 PM
I'll have to tell y'all about the Goin Reservoir Chipmunk Launching Championships.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 12, 2011, 05:20 PM
chipmunks  make  great  dubbing
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 12, 2011, 05:52 PM
Only you Trapper.....only you :rotflol:

I'm guessing the cats in your neighborhood are scissor phobic.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: NYtrout27 on Oct 12, 2011, 05:55 PM


I'm guessing the cats in your neighborhood are scissor phobic.

RG

haha the first fly I ever tied was an emgerer.  I used hair off my girlfriend's cat's back lol.  Turned out rather nice actually.  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 12, 2011, 05:56 PM
chipmunks  make  great  dubbing
:w00t: Crazy 'OL BUZZARD!!--KP 8)

Nice shot RG!! Megan agrees with you..."Cute little bugger"!! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 12, 2011, 06:09 PM
look  at  him  ,  he's  laughing  at  ya  .....  never  trust  a  wild  animal  ....you  coulda  been  attacked!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Oct 12, 2011, 11:39 PM
That is awesome RG.

Camping at Brennan's this past weekend gave my family plenty of close up's of almost tame squirrels, skunks, and chipmunks.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 13, 2011, 02:23 AM
I know a piece of woods that holds some flying squirrels and another that has a population of black squirrels. They're next on my list. The stream behind my house is really shut down now. It's funny how these warm water streams just turn off when the temps drop. I took the new (old) Fenwick down to one of my spots last night. No takers, but the rod is a joy. I have a feeling my glass rod collection is gong to grow.

It's been an interesting year of fly fishing for me. It started with a state of the art, high tech 3wt and ended with a 50 year old bamboo and a 40 year old ferrelite glass rod. One thing's for sure.....I need to build a rod rack :-\ (maybe a reel rack too)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fisher7450 on Oct 13, 2011, 02:47 AM
build me one too  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 13, 2011, 03:44 PM
look  at  him  ,  he's  laughing  at  ya   .....  never  trust  a  wild  animal  ....you  coulda  been  attacked!
Now, that you mentioned it, I see that little "bugger" on a beadhead nymph!! :rotflol: :w00t: I hope my daughter, Megan, doesn't read this!! ;)--KP ;D


I assure you that no chipmunk will be harmed in any way under any circumstance!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 13, 2011, 04:35 PM
Never harm a chipmunk! They're the finest of all the rodents......except when they decide to take up residence........in your attic :-\

Megan will really like the flying squirrels....if I manage to get some shots.

My Bride is really warming up to my newest hobby. I must have really conditioned her well over the years. All she does now is shake her head and smirk. Good thing she loves me ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 15, 2011, 07:33 AM
today  is  a  relaxing  day  ...  time  to  ty a  few  flies   clean  and  do  maitance on equipment ....  i  just cleaned  my  2  new  8  wt  rods  really  like  these  rods    once i  got  use  to  the  wt  after  cleaning a  rod  i like   putting a  good  coat of  car wax  on it ,this  helps  the line to  slide better   while  casting  adding a  few feet when you  need  it , also  helps  when  the  weather  gets   below  freezing .... my  reels  i  cleaned  and  a  dab of  grease  ....  my  waders    got  cleaned  before   but   my  vest  and  hodgeman  jacket  are   in  the  washing  machine  ...all  flyboxes  and  supplys  are  being  organized  again .... next i'll  wash  out  the  truck   check  all  fluids   and  then  relax   in  front  of  the  vice .... 

                                                                                                                                                                   life  is  good  and  so  has  been  the  fishing

                                                                                                                                                                                                TRAPP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 15, 2011, 08:18 AM
Yeah...kinda ugly out there all right. Had breakfast with the Grumpy Old Men, bought some groceries, Minestrone is getting happy on the stove, Heading to the Outdoor Store in Holcomb to but a good pair of boots.

I've got a fly reel to finish restoring and some tidying up to do in the hobby room. I think I'm in for a nice long nap this afternoon ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 15, 2011, 08:31 AM
just  starting  to  get  windy  here  no  rain in  fact  seen  some  breaks  in  the  clouds  ,  think  i'm  going  to  take  a  trip  to  all  seasons  and  maybe  stop and  say  howdy  to  snagger 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Oct 18, 2011, 03:29 AM
Never harm a chipmunk! They're the finest of all the rodents......except when they decide to take up residence........in your attic :-\

Megan will really like the flying squirrels....if I manage to get some shots.

My Bride is really warming up to my newest hobby. I must have really conditioned her well over the years. All she does now is shake her head and smirk. Good thing she loves me ;D

RG

I agree with the chipmunk comment RG, they truly are the prettiest specimens in the rodent family. I have a rock wall that surrounds the perimeter of my yard, due to how much rocks are in our soil when the foundation was dug for the house. I can allmost name them.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 24, 2011, 07:03 AM
chipmunks  are  evil!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fisher7450 on Oct 24, 2011, 10:52 AM
especially when they sing  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 24, 2011, 12:51 PM
ya  know  fm  does  remind  me  a little  bit  of  elvin !  rg  sorta  looks  like  theodor hmmmmmmmm :w00t:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 24, 2011, 05:43 PM
You've never heard me sing. I'm more of a Giuseppe De Luca than an Enrico Caruso. No chipmunk voice here ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Oct 29, 2011, 12:16 AM
You've never heard me sing. I'm more of a Giuseppe De Luca than an Enrico Caruso. No chipmunk voice here ;D

RG


Leave it to you to confuse the heck out of me RG. ;) I had to google them names Mr. :D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Special Ed on Oct 29, 2011, 01:04 AM
Leave it to you to confuse the heck out of me RG. ;) I had to google them names Mr. :D
Mob hit men ?  :whistling: :whistling:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Oct 29, 2011, 01:14 AM
Mob hit men ?  :whistling: :whistling:

Ball buster heh? ;)   I got ur # Mr.  :P Bout time for your wise arse to hook up, and sling a rod with us man. Don't be scared, i'm used to getting beat up on the waters, but I am "HARDCORE". :laugh:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Special Ed on Oct 29, 2011, 01:23 AM
Ball buster heh? ;)   I got ur # Mr.  :P Bout time for your wise arse to hook up, and sling a rod with us man. Don't be scared, i'm used to getting beat up on the waters, but I am "HARDCORE". :laugh:
??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Oct 29, 2011, 01:27 AM
??? ??? ??? ???

I meant, we should team up and hit the waters.... that's all. Just busting man. ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Special Ed on Oct 29, 2011, 01:35 AM
I meant, we should team up and hit the waters.... that's all. Just busting man. ;)
O I C   ;D   When you said HARDCORE I thought  ::) ::) ;D
  I'm heading out in an hour or so.   Gonna hit the daybreak Shore Lakers at Skaneatelels Lake and toss some heavy metal for pike in the Seneca River on the way home !
   I can fish Oneida on Sunday evening  ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Oct 29, 2011, 01:50 AM
O I C   ;D   When you said HARDCORE I thought  ::) ::) ;D
  I'm heading out in an hour or so.   Gonna hit the daybreak Shore Lakers at Skaneatelels Lake and toss some heavy metal for pike in the Seneca River on the way home !
   I can fish Oneida on Sunday evening  ;)

Good luck man. Pile em up. By the way... I'm not one of those confrontational people on here, unless someone crosses me, which rarely happens. Lot's of good people here man. The schmucks show up quick.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 29, 2011, 01:56 AM
Just making you think Lance ;D

Nothing like some Puccini or Verdi to wake up the brain. A bit more thoughtful than Rap.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Special Ed on Oct 29, 2011, 02:00 AM
Good luck man. Pile em up. By the way... I'm not one of those confrontational people on here, unless someone crosses me, which rarely happens. Lot's of good people here man. The schmucks show up quick.
So I've seen  ::)
  Just went out to start the truck.   Gotta find an ice scrapper !  D#@N cold out there.
  I'll be happy if I catch one nice Laker this morning.   Just a peaceful place to fish on Hardscrabble Point.  

Thanks
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Oct 29, 2011, 02:06 AM
Just making you think Lance ;D

Nothing like some Puccini or Verdi to wake up the brain. A bit more thoughtful than Rap.

RG

So I figured RG. Never been much of a rapper anyhow. 8) Ya got me one step more to being "cultured" now Bob. Thanks.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Special Ed on Oct 29, 2011, 02:09 AM
So I figured RG. Never been much of a rapper anyhow. 8) Ya got me one step more to being "cultured" now Bob. Thanks.
You want culture ?   Here's culture :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V57hP7Ipjw4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V57hP7Ipjw4)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Oct 29, 2011, 02:14 AM
That's just wrong Ed. You seem to fit in well..........other than the fact that we need to stop hijacking these threads with nonsense posts. Sorry RG. :-\
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 29, 2011, 08:19 AM
It's Trapper's thread...I'm as guilty as you  ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 29, 2011, 08:22 AM
WAAAAAAAAY passed your curfew Lance!!! :P Starting trouble with the new guys!! ;D Hope you hit the fish hard Ed!!--KP 8)

I was wondering....are the old farts still casting flyrods?? :whistling:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 29, 2011, 01:03 PM
I will be tomorrow  ;D

Got some bluegill flies that need further testing :w00t:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Oct 30, 2011, 03:49 AM
WAAAAAAAAY passed your curfew Lance!!! :P Starting trouble with the new guys!! ;D Hope you hit the fish hard Ed!!--KP 8)

I was wondering....are the old farts still casting flyrods?? :whistling:

I have no curfew on a Sat. morn., Especially when It's my employees turn to work the shop on there Sat. Talk  to ya soon friend.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 30, 2011, 07:41 AM
WAAAAAAAAY passed your curfew Lance!!! :P Starting trouble with the new guys!! ;D Hope you hit the fish hard Ed!!--KP 8)

I was wondering....are the old farts still casting flyrods?? :whistling:

we  sure  are!   i'm  tring  to  whack  a   gaint  walleye     with  a  fly  lol  ....why  i  don't  know  ... they  don'  even  taste  good  when  they  get  that  big  ...  but  we  gotta  do  it  along  with  some   browns  and  chrome  ....   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 30, 2011, 06:21 PM
burrrrrrrrrrrrrrr  i  need   a   ice  shanty   and  heater   around  me     ;D......  i  ain't  going  to   quiet    i  want  a  whooper   walleye   on  the  flyrod  ....    i  just  have  to  find  a  big  one  ..big  and  dumb ....real  dumb  would  help
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Nov 26, 2011, 08:12 AM
Hey Trap,  You find that big and dumb 'ol walleye on the fly yet??!! ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Nov 26, 2011, 07:46 PM
i  am  still  hopefull 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Nov 27, 2011, 01:35 PM
i  am  still  hopefull 
;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 02, 2012, 04:27 PM
Time to chase the moths outta here....Old Farts....sign in please!! ;D--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 02, 2012, 05:06 PM
I'm here ;D

Our best thoughts and wishes for a speedy recovery go out to Trappers Bride.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: chiefcatchemall on Mar 02, 2012, 09:14 PM
Yup wish the best for you and your wife Rick!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Flukeman on Mar 03, 2012, 07:14 AM
Sorry to hear Trapp, our thoughts and prayers are with your family.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 03, 2012, 08:24 AM
Prayers and thoughts go out to you and your bride our friend!! God bless!--KP ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: SKUNK-MASTER on Mar 21, 2012, 01:13 PM
well finally made the plunge and got some flycasting stuff.  went a little cheap to get me started(never layed my hands on a fly rod b4 )    picked up some combos from ll bean.  6'6" 3wt 2pc.presumably for gills and stuff and stocked trout)  9' 6wt 4pc and a 9' 6/7wt 2pc trolling rod for my kayak(also never used a kayak b4)     have a lot of questions.....i am sure i will get into tying...but whats the best way to get started??     buy some of the "eastern trout" variety packs...i know it can get really complicated with matching the hatch and all that        also leader lenghts,float vs sink tips, diff casting techniques....i am sure there is a million more!


posted this in ny general.....thought it should be here also.     not sure what the cutoff is for the old farts.......I am 40 ;D ::) ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 21, 2012, 05:04 PM
We love to school the youngsters ;D

I gave some advice in your other topic.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 21, 2012, 05:38 PM
well finally made the plunge and got some flycasting stuff.  went a little cheap to get me started(never layed my hands on a fly rod b4 )    picked up some combos from ll bean.  6'6" 3wt 2pc.presumably for gills and stuff and stocked trout)  9' 6wt 4pc and a 9' 6/7wt 2pc trolling rod for my kayak(also never used a kayak b4)     have a lot of questions.....i am sure i will get into tying...but whats the best way to get started??     buy some of the "eastern trout" variety packs...i know it can get really complicated with matching the hatch and all that        also leader lenghts,float vs sink tips, diff casting techniques....i am sure there is a million more!


posted this in ny general.....thought it should be here also.     not sure what the cutoff is for the old farts.......I am 40 ;D ::) ;)
WELCOME to the Old Fart community ;) watch out for the "real" old farts on here :whistling:....they are still sharp as tacks!!! I won't include myself into the old fart class just yet...I'm only 44!!! ;) ;D--KP 8)

Good evening RG!! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Mar 21, 2012, 05:47 PM
     not sure what the cutoff is for the old farts.......I am 40 ;D ::) ;)

Alot of grey area on the classafications... but if you are 40 and have caught a fish on a flyrod, you qualify...  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 21, 2012, 05:52 PM
Puppy! ;D

I went to the back yard stream last Saturday. Knocked some dust off the 3wt. No fish to show for the effort, but I had no expectations. Besides I filled the fridge with perch on Saturday :w00t:

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 21, 2012, 05:53 PM
Hey Jay,
Hows the buns in the oven?

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 21, 2012, 05:59 PM
Puppy! ;D

I went to the back yard stream last Saturday. Knocked some dust off the 3wt. No fish to show for the effort, but I had no expectations. Besides I filled the fridge with perch on Saturday :w00t:

RG


Josh got back from the pond across the street an hour ago with his fishing buddy.......nailed the bass pretty good!! ;) Life is GOOD!!

Jay....I won't classify myself an Old fart for at least 2 more months when I turn 45!! ;D--KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 21, 2012, 06:04 PM
Nice job Josh.

I remember 45. Sometimes, at least :-\ 

Turned 62 last Friday. Ran an hour and did weights for 1/2hr this morning. So far so good ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 21, 2012, 06:20 PM
Nice job Josh.

I remember 45. Sometimes, at least :-\ 

Turned 62 last Friday. Ran an hour and did weights for 1/2hr this morning. So far so good ;D

RG
HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY YOUNG MAN!!! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Mar 21, 2012, 06:23 PM
Hey Jay,
Hows the buns in the oven?

RG

The buns and Momma are doing great! She is 25 wks along, everybody is growing and doing well. I swear her belly grows every day. The neatest thing is feeling them kick and move, and know which one it is... Happy belated B-day!

Jay....I won't classify myself an Old fart for at least 2 more months when I turn 45!! ;D--KP

Some days and events I feel old as dirt, some days like a puppy. In the realm of flyfishing - definatly an old f--t...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 21, 2012, 06:28 PM
Good stuff Jay.  Glad to hear it. You'll be a hell of a dad.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Mar 21, 2012, 07:46 PM
happy b-day RG ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Mar 21, 2012, 08:29 PM
Ron - Iffin I were to give a new flyfisher one tid-bit of advice... - Presentation trumps imitation, how your using it is more important than what your using...

I hear guys talking about 2 or 3 tails on thier mayfly imitations or what color are the sulphur bodies today, burnt orange, orange yellow, yellow orange, tangellow, meduim orange...  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 22, 2012, 01:35 AM
When I look into my old fly collection, I mean from 30 years ago, and see how I was tying then, I can't believe I was catching fish on them. Looked like a half road kill chicken on a hook ;D

Presentation is a function of your setup and ability to cast the fly where it needs to be. You need to learn proper casting techniques so you can develop the ability to throw them out the window and do what's necessary. You don't really think about casting much. You see your spot and know how you want the fly to act and just do it.

My early casting techniques resembled a Whirling Dervish warding off an attack by a swarm of hornets. Most days , now, it' a little better ;D

I'd also suggest buying either bubble gum or a pipe (if you smoke), It'll give you something to do while re-tying and de-knotting. :-\

It's a patient pursuit.

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: hunts2long on Mar 22, 2012, 06:33 AM
Got the flyrod out yesterday. Can't fish at the house until 1st Sat in May, but will hit some streams in April.....hunts2long
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 12, 2012, 04:56 PM
Wonder if the 'Ol Fart Trapper has had his flyrods out yet? ;) Josh and I did get the dust off once....looks like a nice weekend coming to toss a few flies!! Titelines with dryflies!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 12, 2012, 05:45 PM
I gave the new 5wt Axiom a toss or 2 this evening. I think I'm gonna like this machine. ;D

I'm headed South this weekend. I passed some of my favorite waters today as I traveled through the Southern Tier. I could feel the trout in the air.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 13, 2012, 06:54 PM
Have some fun my friend....you deserve it!! ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 16, 2012, 02:18 AM
Well. Saturday I made the trip to an area in the South near Avoca. I've fished this before, but quite a while ago. After about an hour hike to my starting point I fished about 1 1/2 miles of stream. There was a massive hatch around 10am. Hendricksons filled the air. Not a single rise. The cow path where I dropped into the stream should have told the tale.

So yesterday I left early to hit a local stream Not only did I catch trout all morning, but had a surprise when I hit a 5lb steelie. I had the ultra lite with 4lb on as this stream is almost impossible to fly fish with all the multiflora rose and dead fall. It hit a half piece of baby night crawler. I successfully removed the hook and released the fish. Amazing colors I might add. It was impossible to juggle the camera as I had no net. I caught as many natives as I did stockers. and had a couple for lunch.

You just never know what you're gonna find in your back yard. 2 Great days of fishing anyway.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Apr 16, 2012, 03:01 PM
two days fishing is better then 2 days working
and i still fish every week,when i was younger it was every day,i think
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 03, 2012, 07:26 AM
today  will be  my  first  day  fishing  in a  long time  ,and  i'm going  catching  not  fishing , i'm headed  to  the  secret  rock  bass  spot  in the  jon boat  where i'm  going to pound  gaint  dukes  sip  coffee and  talk  to  fish as i unhook them  ,then later  i'm  having a  fish  fry   ;D................... 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 03, 2012, 09:28 AM
ENJOY your day Trap!! Good luck!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 03, 2012, 04:12 PM
Danged "Opportunist"  ;D   Have fun bud!

What time's dinner?



RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 03, 2012, 04:36 PM
I think Trap may be cleaning fish!!! ;)--KP :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on May 03, 2012, 06:51 PM
this is the longest time he has spent away from the water. the fish are doomed ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 05, 2012, 01:19 PM
didn"t go  fishing  i  went  catching   and  yup  5  wt ...weighted  nymphs  and   wolly  worms  and   rock  bass !!!!!!!!  i  giggled  like  a  school  girl ,  talked  to  my  self  and  had  a  ball ...  KP  yup  there  cleaned  and  on  the  grill  they  go   ;D

 life  is  good ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on May 05, 2012, 02:54 PM
didn"t go  fishing  i  went  catching   and  yup  5  wt ...weighted  nymphs  and   wolly  worms  and   rock  bass !!!!!!!!  i  giggled  like  a  school  girl ,  talked  to  my  self  and  had  a  ball ...  KP  yup  there  cleaned  and  on  the  grill  they  go   ;D

 life  is  good ;D
i just love it,A LOT BETTER then working
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 05, 2012, 04:16 PM
Good for you Trapper. Well deserved.

I went looking for crappie with the new 5wt today. I ended up with 1 crappie, 2 perch over 10", 1 walleye 16" and several smallmouth one in the 2.5lb range.

They all came on the Crappie Candy fly (stock photo...mine are very similar)

(http://flyanglersonline.com/flytying/fotw2/cc19.jpg)

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on May 05, 2012, 04:28 PM
RG...Nice.  Do you use floating line or sink tip with that?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 05, 2012, 04:55 PM
I was using one of my 60" furled fluorocarbon leaders on a DT5F and a 6' 5x tippet. The water I was fishing was 12' max.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on May 06, 2012, 01:48 PM
I was using one of my 60" furled fluorocarbon leaders on a DT5F and a 6' 5x tippet. The water I was fishing was 12' max.

RG
this is one hell of a fishing person,i would to be his age.
go after the brookies,you can do it[how there are 6# BROOKIES in n.y.]
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 06, 2012, 05:50 PM
"At His age"??? I'm only 62 ;D

Try as I may, I'm still a warm water fly fisher. Smallmouth, gills, crappie, carp, largemouth, pike......I love to fish them on the fly. A 2lb smallie on a 3wt in a stream is more satisfaction than I can stand. It's how I learned and since life is a circle..... ;D.....It's where I am.

Anyway I really love fly fishing.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: joshjj2010 on May 07, 2012, 03:31 AM
So u like the thrill of fishing on light tackle for big fish. The thrill of u might lose a big fish. Thats how i am and i absolutely love it. If i could id go salmon fishing with 4 lb if i could
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 07, 2012, 07:10 AM
i  use  a  pitch  fork  ...they  fight   pretty  hard 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 07, 2012, 12:42 PM
i  use  a  pitch  fork  ...they  fight   pretty  hard 
:rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 07, 2012, 03:55 PM
A 3wt pitch fork? That's very sporting of you Trapper ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on May 10, 2012, 12:11 PM
"At His age"??? I'm only 62 ;D

Try as I may, I'm still a warm water fly fisher. Smallmouth, gills, crappie, carp, largemouth, pike......I love to fish them on the fly. A 2lb smallie on a 3wt in a stream is more satisfaction than I can stand. It's how I learned and since life is a circle..... ;D.....It's where I am.

Anyway I really love fly fishing.

RG
RG, I WOULD LOVE TO BE YOUR AGE AGAIN,and you are one hell of a good fishingperson,i think this is the way
you are to add, and not fisherman,its past me
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 10, 2012, 12:55 PM
My son and I have had the honor to fish along side RG. A great friend, person and flyfisherman!! ;) Titelines!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: joshjj2010 on May 10, 2012, 05:19 PM
i  use  a  pitch  fork  ...they  fight   pretty  hard 
A pitch fork is always the best method. When in doubt us :De a pitch fork. Hahahahahah
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 11, 2012, 03:35 AM
I'm gettin' all teary eyed. Thanks.

Can't wait to get back up and fish with you and Josh, KP. You guys are a lot of fun.

I've been fighting a bug for the last 24 hours or so. Fever, chills etc. I went to bed at 5pm yesterday and just got up. I had some very weird dreams. One was of fly fishing for drum. Quite vivid too. I may have to drop the boat in Oak Orchard this weekend and see if it was some sort of premonition. Anyway, no work for me today. I ain't fit to drive.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on May 11, 2012, 06:06 AM
RG....I'm all ears if you go for drum in the Oak.  I want to try that badly.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 11, 2012, 06:38 AM
I'm gettin' all teary eyed. Thanks.

Can't wait to get back up and fish with you and Josh, KP. You guys are a lot of fun.

I've been fighting a bug for the last 24 hours or so. Fever, chills etc. I went to bed at 5pm yesterday and just got up. I had some very weird dreams. One was of fly fishing for drum. Quite vivid too. I may have to drop the boat in Oak Orchard this weekend and see if it was some sort of premonition. Anyway, no work for me today. I ain't fit to drive.

RG
Hope your feeling better Bob!! I'm sure you can drive the boat though!!! ;) Have fun!

Josh and I are looking forward to fishing with you again!

Titelines!

KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 11, 2012, 07:28 AM
Funny thing. I started feeling better as soon as I called in to work and told my crew what to do today.  ;D  I think I've taken 2 sick days in 5 years.

I got on the scale this morning,lost 4 lbs over night.

I'll live.
RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 11, 2012, 03:28 PM
Soooooo...how did the boat run??? ;D Glad to hear your feeling better!! ;)

Josh and I are headed to the shores of Oneida tonight to look for Mr. Wally!!! 8) No flyrods tonight though! :-\

LIFE IS GOOD!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gremlin on May 11, 2012, 03:49 PM
 New to fly fishing, I have a 4-5 weight rod. Which line would be easier to cast with, and get more distance. The 4 weight or 5 weight, or does it even matter ??? Thanks :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 11, 2012, 05:47 PM
Soooooo...how did the boat run??? ;D Glad to hear your feeling better!! ;)

Josh and I are headed to the shores of Oneida tonight to look for Mr. Wally!!! 8) No flyrods tonight though! :-\

LIFE IS GOOD!!--KP 8)
Nah, I didn't go anywhere other than the grocery store. I feel much better. Tomorrow will be a good day on the stream ;D Go get those eyes bud!

New to fly fishing, I have a 4-5 weight rod. Which line would be easier to cast with, and get more distance. The 4 weight or 5 weight, or does it even matter ??? Thanks :)
It will depend on the rod really. A slow rod will cast a weight forward line better where a fast rod will tend to cast a double taper a bit easier.  I'd suggest a WF5F anyway. A weight forward line will serve you well in any event. Distance is more a function of form and proficient technique than equipment....in my opinion.

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gremlin on May 11, 2012, 08:23 PM
Thanks i'll give the WF5F a shot.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 12, 2012, 12:37 AM
One other thing, don't buy an inexpensive line. I use Cortland 444 90% of the time. Great line and a good value.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 12, 2012, 11:29 AM
i  agree  with  the  cortland  444  as  a  great  bargin !  it  really  is    as  far  as  i'm  concernd (opinion  and  my personal  casting  ablities  and  traits )  i like  a  rocket  taper  ....distance  isn't  as  important  as  easy  casting  and  i  get  both  a  little  further   and  a  lot  less  effert  .....  i honestly  believe  that  ones  casting  form is  the  chief  factor  in line  choice  other  then weight
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 12, 2012, 12:02 PM
Nah, I didn't go anywhere other than the grocery store. I feel much better. Tomorrow will be a good day on the stream ;D Go get those eyes bud!
 It will depend on the rod really. A slow rod will cast a weight forward line better where a fast rod will tend to cast a double taper a bit easier.  I'd suggest a WF5F anyway. A weight forward line will serve you well in any event. Distance is more a function of form and proficient technique than equipment....in my opinion.

RG


Josh whipped the  'Ol Fart.....AGAIN!!! ;D Life is Good!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gremlin on May 12, 2012, 12:18 PM
 Thanks for the advice RG, and Trap. Guess the $13 fly line (cortland fairplay floating rocket) i bought a walmart wont help my casting. I'll try the 444. Thanks again. :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 12, 2012, 02:06 PM
Check out a bunch of youtube videos on casting techniques. It will help a lot. Avoid the "hero cast" ( trying to get that extra 10') it will only frustrate you. Most of all avoid "Grippus Maximus". Keep a nice light grip on that handle.

Last thing....breaking your wrist will destroy your casting loops.

Have fun, start small, catch some fish.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on May 12, 2012, 06:47 PM
Like the guys said, the cheap line is fine... technique trumps everything...

RG,  I dont mind some wrist movement, I see way too many folks useing tons of arm and shoulder. Saw a dude last week frothing the water. He had to have been sore after 10 minutes.  8) He was turning his hips, full rotation on shoulders, arm all the way back and forward... Tank and I were 150 yards away and could hear the line frothing the water on the back and forward cast...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on May 13, 2012, 06:57 AM
I learned on an old 6wt. Then got my T3 4WT. Once you learn on a cheap setup you will really appreciate a high end setup when you are ready. I also noticed if you used a 5wt with a 6wt line, it is easier to learn . For those with learning disabilities. ::) ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 13, 2012, 03:43 PM
Well, I've been fighting a virus since last Thursday and today I finally got a break. I thought it was gone and felt pretty good Friday afternoon, but it came back with a vengeance yesterday. Had me down for the count.

But, I managed to get on my back yard stream for a couple of hours this afternoon. Tricked a couple smallies and a gill or two with the 3wt and some of my beady eyed dace.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/Untitled.jpg)

They can't stand it...they gotta eat 'em  ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on May 13, 2012, 05:39 PM
RG....Those are beautiful!!!!  What size hook on those babies?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 14, 2012, 02:37 AM
10's I believe. I should have taken the crayfish yesterday. The water was plenty warm enough.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/Untitled-1.jpg)
I tie these little guys for the stream.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: joshjj2010 on May 20, 2012, 03:56 AM
Well i was out yesterday and decided to use some of my pike flys i had tied this winter and i noticed that it is a lot harder casting them compired to my trout fly. Ik theres a huge size differance but is there anything i can do thatll make it easyier. Im usein a 5/6rod  with 5 weight line thats doubble tappered. Any sugestions?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 20, 2012, 03:28 PM
Put a WF7F on that 6wt and beef up your leader.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on May 20, 2012, 04:58 PM
Took this pic the other night. Pretty cool
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj204/wiredstone/P5180262.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 20, 2012, 05:40 PM
Put a WF7F on that 6wt and beef up your leader.

RG
  X2....Beat me to it Bob!!  ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: joshjj2010 on May 20, 2012, 09:53 PM
Will do. Thanks guys
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 25, 2012, 05:33 PM
Well, It's been 4 months since I finished my new 5wt rod. I've tried several reels  from my collection on it......none to my liking so far. Something was missing. I decided that the latest and greatest super disc drag reels just didn't feel, or sound, right.

So I started research on high quality click and pawl reels. My pockets aren't deep enough for an Abel (my Bride sews them up short) so I kept looking. The winner is.....
(http://www.redtruckflyfishing.com/storeimages/400x400/rls-lrt-dies-056-reel-cust.jpg)

The Red Truck Diesel 5/6 by Leland.  :clapping:

Super nice classic reel from modern materials and modern machining. Can't wait to hear it sing ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 28, 2012, 09:29 PM
well  seen  catchem in his  boat  today  and  got  to  run our  mouths  abit   after  he  left i  went  exploring a  bit and  found  some  pretty  good  gill  action used  the  spinning  rod  for  awhile  then the  wind  died  down and  i  grabbed  the  flyrod had  a  great time nothing huge  just  fun
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 29, 2012, 02:18 AM
I had one of those great fly fishing weekends too Trapper. I was out morning and evening for 3 days. Used 5 different fly rods. Even took the "Boo" out for some sunshine and fresh air. Tons of gills and good numbers of smallmouth. All less than a mile from my home. I even had time to come up with a new "Hopper Popper". The fish loved it ;D

The stream was warm, the bugs were practically non-existent, and I never saw another person fishing.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 29, 2012, 07:45 AM
yup  but i  wish  catchem  hadn't  left  , being our  "home"  water  i  don't  mind  his  company  plus  he's  young  he  can  run  for  coffee.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 29, 2012, 11:45 AM
Well, It's been 4 months since I finished my new 5wt rod. I've tried several reels  from my collection on it......none to my liking so far. Something was missing. I decided that the latest and greatest super disc drag reels just didn't feel, or sound, right.

So I started research on high quality click and pawl reels. My pockets aren't deep enough for an Abel (my Bride sews them up short) so I kept looking. The winner is.....
(http://www.redtruckflyfishing.com/storeimages/400x400/rls-lrt-dies-056-reel-cust.jpg)

The Red Truck Diesel 5/6 by Leland.  :clapping:

Super nice classic reel from modern materials and modern machining. Can't wait to hear it sing ;D

RG
I know just the spot where , I bet, a few smallies can make that reel sing!!! ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 29, 2012, 11:48 AM
yup  but i  wish  catchem  hadn't  left  , being our  "home"  water  i  don't  mind  his  company  plus  he's  young  he  can  run  for  coffee.....
Next time you see Chief, Trap....ask him if he needs a job!!! ;D ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 29, 2012, 02:04 PM
kp  bet  i  know  that  stream too  shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 29, 2012, 02:22 PM
kp  bet  i  know  that  stream too  shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 29, 2012, 05:19 PM
I know one spot up your way. Seems I secretly added the GPS coordinates to my list :w00t:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 29, 2012, 06:40 PM
I know one spot up your way. Seems I secretly added the GPS coordinates to my list :w00t:

RG
You 'ol farts are pretty sharp!!! ;)--KP ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 10, 2012, 05:27 AM
i  finally  got  something worth  reporting !  been fishing  one  of  my  favorite  gill  spots  ,  and  totally  crushed  them !  a guy that  keeps  his  boat  there watched and  timed me ,  during the  peek of  the  bite  i  was  hooking  3  gills a  min ...then i  got tired  lol  ...was  great  ...bead  head  pheasant tail  size 12 was  the  fly .....5 wt  st  croix   life  is  good   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 10, 2012, 03:08 PM
Not much more fun than gills on the fly ;D Good for you Trapper.

I finally picked a reel for the 5wt TFO Axiom I built. I tried most of my collection and liked the traditional reels the best. Something sweet about the sound of click and pawl.

So I bought a Red Truck Diesel  ;D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/6-10-2012/DSC00427.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/6-10-2012/DSC00428.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/6-10-2012/DSC00425.jpg)

The thing is built like a truck and smooth as silk. I had some real good smallmouth make it sing this morning. 

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 10, 2012, 06:51 PM
Very nice Bob!! Made in the USA to boot!!! ;) Josh and I visited his honey hole acrossed the street tonight. Used a couple of a couple 'Ol Farts foam flies!!!! ;D Bluegills and sunnies like 'em! ;)

Trap, good to see you enjoying life buddy!! When RG comes to visit, your more than welcome to join us my friend!!

LIFE IS GOOD!!!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 10, 2012, 07:27 PM
nice  RG   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 11, 2012, 02:37 AM
Well, designed in the USA...made overseas. Cute the way they do that :-\

I bought it from Leland and talked to them before the purchase. It was simple, If I wasn't happy, send it back. I'm happy.

They'll take it in for their upgrade program as well. What they do is sell it on Ebay for your asking price at no charge to you and give you a gift card for the full amount to use as you like to upgrade or buy something else.



Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: OTIS on Jun 11, 2012, 07:02 AM
Great looking setup there RG!  I like the dark blue wraps on that rod!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 15, 2012, 10:13 PM
time  was limited  today ,  had  to take  mrs  trap  for a  MRI  did  manage  a  few  cast ,  plan on a  good assualt  in the  morning ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: hunts2long on Jun 16, 2012, 04:03 AM
Hope all is OK with wife and Good Luck this morning.....hunts2long
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 16, 2012, 01:29 PM
hey  thanks   and  she's  doing  great  !  and  i  did  a  limit  of  decent  gills  today  all  on  foam   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 20, 2012, 11:37 AM
now  that  i  can  get  out  some  ,i  realize  how  much  i  really  love   watching  a  fish  rise   for   something  i  stuck  together ....  for  me  theres  no  better  feeling  and  i  love  seeing  the  take  and  feeling  weight  when i  first  gently  lift  that  rod  ....  i  so    many   people  interested  in  tring  this  sport ,  it  does  me  ggood  to  see  that  ....  get  out  there  and  enjoy ,  and  if  ya  have  a  question  this  is  a  great  place  to  ask  !  HT  where  the  heck  are  you?????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 20, 2012, 01:01 PM
GOT FOAM? ;D  Trapper will ROAM!!!!  ;) LOL!!--KP



LIFE IS GOOD!! 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: dimebrite on Jun 20, 2012, 01:12 PM
Theres nothing like a fish on the rise on the fly... it should be a staple for anyone who takes on "fly fishing" as a sport... its probably just about time for bass on the surface ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 20, 2012, 01:19 PM
GOT FOAM? ;D  Trapper will ROAM!!!!  ;) LOL!!--KP



LIFE IS GOOD!! 8)


i  love  it   :laugh:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: corny13 on Jun 20, 2012, 02:50 PM
Been following this post for a while...cus Im a old f--t with flyrods...  started flyfishnig almost 50 yrs ago.  Thought Id post what Granny got me for Father's day.  There is a pic of it with the little rainbow I entered in the contest.  Its a TFO 1/2 wt fly rod, loaded with 1wt line, at 5ft. actually loads pretty good, ok the beaded bugger I caught the rainbow with was a little big.  Should be a lot of fun on the small brookie creeks near my cabin and chasing gills.  Here is another pic of the setup with the trout.
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t38/corny132000/IMAG1433.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 20, 2012, 04:22 PM
Good Granny ;D
Nice setup. Welcome to the "Old Farts".
Love my 3wt Finesse.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gremlin on Jun 23, 2012, 08:56 AM
Has anyone ever ordered flies from Stream Flies website? 50 cents a fly seems pretty cheap to me ( i paid $3.50 for 2 flies at gander). How is the quality?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 23, 2012, 06:25 PM
I guess I can't answer that. I've never bought a fly.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 23, 2012, 07:35 PM
i  never  actually  bought  a  flie  either .... i  have a  few  fran  bitters  tied  with me  during a  sports  show  .....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 23, 2012, 07:36 PM
wait ........  thats  not  true  as a  kid  i  bought  a  chart  full of  poppers  for  bluegills   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 24, 2012, 03:35 AM
You know, thinking back (30 years or more) I bought one of those round plastic boxes with 8 or so poppers in it. Then I bought one of these (http://www.speypages.com/speyclave/attachment.php?s=10027738db83b0b7ea13ea5ce162a24d&attachmentid=9428&stc=1&d=1256169227)

The Thompson "A"
Everything from there on was mine...good, bad or ugly.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 24, 2012, 08:19 AM
Has anyone ever ordered flies from Stream Flies website? 50 cents a fly seems pretty cheap to me ( i paid $3.50 for 2 flies at gander). How is the quality?
Some of the guys on SNAGGER'S thread, had bought some online for steelhead and trout. They ordered quite a few and for the most part....they stayed tight and fished well. like RG and trapper....I have never bought a fly...trout fly!! Seems as though I know two old fart's who like to share!! :whistling: I have been guilty of buying steelhead flies though!!! ;D Titelines!-KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 24, 2012, 08:19 AM
You know, thinking back (30 years or more) I bought one of those round plastic boxes with 8 or so poppers in it. Then I bought one of these (http://www.speypages.com/speyclave/attachment.php?s=10027738db83b0b7ea13ea5ce162a24d&attachmentid=9428&stc=1&d=1256169227)

The Thompson "A"
Everything from there on was mine...good, bad or ugly.

RG
Hey Bob.....what is that? ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 24, 2012, 08:37 AM
that  right there (what  RG  is  showing  ya)  is  what  we  are  going  to  beat  you  with  if  you  waste  money buying  steel head  flies!!!!  y  got  a  great  fly  tyer   right  there  in  your  house!  plus  your  welcome  to  go threw  my  boxes
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 24, 2012, 11:23 AM
Hey Trapper,
I gave the new TFO 5wt and Red Truck reel a super workout this morning. Nailed a good sized carp, maybe 8lbs, in the creek on one of my beady eyed bluegill killers. 25 minutes and a couple bruised knuckles later, I got my fly back :thumbup_smilie:

Not used to palming a click and pawl on hard running fish.  It took me well into the backing twice.

Man that setup is sweet.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gremlin on Jun 24, 2012, 03:55 PM
Thanks for the replies, i think :D
 Just getting into fly fishing, Probally start fly tying soon.
Rg, what do you use for a leader when fishing for carp?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 24, 2012, 05:28 PM
I make my own furled leaders for a butt section and used 6X as a tippit. The furled was a medium weight, 6/0 Uni with a hi-vis tip.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/5-7-2012/DSC00385.jpg)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 24, 2012, 09:34 PM
RG  thats  great  , took me  alot  on convincing  but  i  finally  see  the  beauty in the  ugly  old  carp!!!!  they  fight  hard  are abuntant  and  aren't  as  easy to catch as people  would  think!!!!  good  for  you ole  boy!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 25, 2012, 03:55 PM
Trapper,
When I come up next week we'll have to do some fly trading. We better bring some extra for the KP crew ;D

I'll have some furled leaders for y'all to enjoy. Best thing since...............peanut butter. You won't believe how well they cast.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 25, 2012, 04:26 PM
that  right there (what  RG  is  showing  ya)  is  what  we  are  going  to  beat  you  with  if  you  waste  money buying  steel head  flies!!!!  y  got  a  great  fly  tyer   right  there  in  your  house!  plus  your  welcome  to  go threw  my  boxes
OK...I won't buy steelhead flies anymore!!!! LOL! I'll trade you a coffee to go through your arsenol!!!! ;) BUT, what is that gadget RG posted??  ;D Trap, you got a spot picked out to fish for when RG comes to town? I have a spot in mind! ;)

LIFE IS GOOD!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gremlin on Jun 25, 2012, 04:47 PM
Just made 5 furled leaders out of 12lb. mono, they turned out pretty nice, it's amazing what you can learn on you tube :)
 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 26, 2012, 02:08 AM
12lb...should be good for Marlin ;D
Furled Mono leaders are good for certain situations. They sink quite nicely.

Take a look here Furled Leaders (http://globalflyfisher.com/fishbetter/henk/henk1.htm) for twining instructions.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gremlin on Jun 26, 2012, 04:33 PM
Yeah, I thought that might of been overkill :o, but i did catch a 6" perch with that leader last evening. :)
 That website has a ton of info on it. Thanks
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 26, 2012, 05:10 PM
There's a lot more available,, let me know if you have interest.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gremlin on Jun 27, 2012, 03:16 PM
There's a lot more available,, let me know if you have interest.

RG
How about your top site for beginners, or anything on carp fly fishing. Thanks
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 27, 2012, 04:59 PM
Beginner fly fishers or fly tiers?

This is an article I go back to time and time again.
https://www.msu.edu/~connert/carpfly.htm (https://www.msu.edu/~connert/carpfly.htm)

Some great basic information for carp on the fly.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gremlin on Jun 27, 2012, 05:49 PM
Beginner fly tiers :-\, also do you recommend a fly tying kit or should i buy all the tools separately. Thanks again :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 28, 2012, 04:03 PM
Here's a great site that I visit often to brush up and find pattern ideas.
Flyanglersonline (http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/beginners/)

Kit or......?

Kits are Ok, but you'll outgrow it quickly if you have any interest at all.

The basic necessities are (in my opinion)
Vise:
Buy a Danvise!
(http://www.jsflyfishing.com/mas_assets/full/OF-900805-0000.jpg)
Best you can buy for around $80
I use one all the time.

Scissors;
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31X2DzHL-BL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
You need good scissors. This set is around $35 at LLbean I use them.

Whip finisher:
(http://www.fishusa.com/assets/product_images/63151001b.jpg)
I like a Materelli style. $6 or so

Bobbin(s);
Buy what you like. I think I have one of everything and I always go back to the inexpensive "made in India" bobbins I bought 30 years ago for practically nothing.

Bodkin; The all purpose tool. It's nice if they're brass handled with a half hitch tool on the butt end.

With those tools and some basic materials you can start tying your own.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Jun 28, 2012, 07:25 PM
I have 2 Dan vices. They are the best for the money.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 29, 2012, 01:23 AM
I've been toying around with buying a Dynaking Squire  for certain flies that like a bit more room around the vise to work. Anyone ever use one?
(http://www.jsflyfishing.com/mas_assets/full/OF-900840-0000.jpg)

Looks to be a top quality product.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 08, 2012, 05:14 PM
A friend of mine joined me today for some warm water fly fishing. He's a terrific fisherman,,,a goll darned fish magnet. He's the son of my fishing mentor, "The Old Man".

He took to the fly with gusto. A short casting lesson and he looked like a pro.

I can't tell you how satisfying it is to start another  fly fishing. He had fun! We had fun!

Pass it along....pay it forward. It's a pure pursuit.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 24, 2012, 06:35 PM
Where, on earth, is TRAPPER??--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Jul 24, 2012, 09:56 PM


The basic necessities are (in my opinion).............


With those tools and some basic materials you can start tying your own.

RG

I'd have to add hackle pliers to the list as well. Just sayin'.....they help keep things straight.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 30, 2012, 06:07 PM
wow  i  come  back  and  no one  talking  flyfishing .........  this  is  sad  ....  i  am  sorry  for  my  extended  abseance  but   the  wife  ended  back  in the  hospital  a  few  times  ,  now   she  is  recovering  but  it's  slow  and  she  gets  frustrated  ....  nice  surprize   for  her  and  i  was  HT  stopping  over  to  check on  us  and   share  some  of  his  garden  ...thanks  my  friend  ....although  my  fishing has  been limited  i  have  tossed  some  foam and  nymphs  to  the  river  gills!   ;D  hoping  to  get  to  salmon  river after a  good  rain  .....  really  miss  you knuckleheads  this  seasons ......  ps  yellow  and  black  foam  in  any  pattern  becomes  a  killer  now   RG  as  the  yellow  jackets  start  really  coming  out
 ;D

                                                                                                                                     life  really  is  good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bcons on Aug 30, 2012, 06:25 PM
Nice to see ya back!  The yellow jackets can kiss my #$%!  I never knew how someone could get "swarmed" until a couple mornings ago.  They had built a hidden nest outside a door to my house, saw a few, got stung on the eyebrow couple weeks ago,  but didn't think anything of it.  2 days ago 4am I get up & turn on the outside light, well they woke up started swarming the light.  I didn't notice until it was too late.  Apparently the warmth from the light got them fired up, i walk out & get stung at least 50 times in a few seconds.  They were all over me.  Tried to got back in, when i opened the door about a dozen came with me.  Wow that sucked & before my first cup of coffee.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 30, 2012, 08:36 PM
hey  serious  note  bcons  be carefull  of a  delayed  reaction!  a  gentleman  died in oswego the  other day  from a single bee sting!  i personally am alergic    and carry a  epi  pen ,make sure if your allergic you have a  up  to date  one with you at all times....  bcons  hope  you feel  better
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Aug 30, 2012, 10:57 PM
Nice to see ya back!  The yellow jackets can kiss my #$%!  I never knew how someone could get "swarmed" until a couple mornings ago.  They had built a hidden nest outside a door to my house, saw a few, got stung on the eyebrow couple weeks ago,  but didn't think anything of it.  2 days ago 4am I get up & turn on the outside light, well they woke up started swarming the light.  I didn't notice until it was too late.  Apparently the warmth from the light got them fired up, i walk out & get stung at least 50 times in a few seconds.  They were all over me.  Tried to got back in, when i opened the door about a dozen came with me.  Wow that sucked & before my first cup of coffee.

Pull them grubs out of there nest.....awesome bait, carefull though, they bite also.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 31, 2012, 01:39 AM
Welcome back Trap!
The flyrods have seen some solid use this summer. Lately I've been going deep in the pools with lead eyed muddlers and clousers. The bass and rockies love them.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/Untitled-7.jpg)

We wish Mrs. Trapper a speedy recovery.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: walleye1 on Aug 31, 2012, 07:12 AM
Pull them grubs out of there nest.....awesome bait, carefull though, they bite also.

Make sure you come down and get me when you try that. Coach, you in? I'll bring the lawn chairs.  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: OTIS on Aug 31, 2012, 01:31 PM
Make sure you come down and get me when you try that. Coach, you in? I'll bring the lawn chairs.  ;D

I'll make the drive for that one!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: coachwarner on Aug 31, 2012, 02:01 PM
Make sure you come down and get me when you try that. Coach, you in? I'll bring the lawn chairs.  ;D
Oh yea, I'll bring the video camera :laugh:
Better read this first Spanky :w00t:
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRBB6qoH2ZRjl66mHK3ys-VIYO1959kFNqR-TNy4L3ZIsVJvl5L)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bcons on Aug 31, 2012, 02:10 PM
Make sure you come down and get me when you try that. Coach, you in? I'll bring the lawn chairs.  ;D
:rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:  I never seen or felt anything like it.  Itching, burning, & pain like nothing else.  Spent an hour in a cold shower & ate naproxen, motrin, & benedryl (?sp) like candy for 2 days. Still swollen bumps, some still tiny with a little stinger hole in the middle, others bigger because I had to pull out stinger parts with a knife & tweezers.  When it was going on the more I moved the worse they attacked me.
Just got out of Home Depot bought 1/2 dozen cans of killer spray, paybacks a b&*%$.  
Bait? Nah Fm can have that.  
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 31, 2012, 02:46 PM
wow   bcons  got  beat  up  by  a  bug .......(becarefull  will  ya)  

rg  thank  you  she's  doing  ok  other  then  frustration  over  her  speech  just  going  to  take  time.....  nice  flie   by  the  way ;D....hey  lance  howdy 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 31, 2012, 02:53 PM
Hey....I've got a setup for live streaming :w00t: C'mon Lance.....we need some entertainment.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bcons on Aug 31, 2012, 08:37 PM
Hey....I've got a setup for live streaming :w00t: C'mon Lance.....we need some entertainment.

RG

I think Lance is smarter than that, if not & he wants some bait I know just the place  :whistling: :whistling: :whistling:
There's even  room for stadium seating, forget the lawn chairs.
Pull the little ones out of the nest? really? 
I can only imagine the results if you tried.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: coachwarner on Aug 31, 2012, 09:28 PM
I think Lance is smarter than that, if not & he wants some bait I know just the place  :whistling: :whistling: :whistling:
There's even  room for stadium seating, forget the lawn chairs.
Pull the little ones out of the nest? really? 
I can only imagine the results if you tried.
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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 02, 2012, 04:09 AM
foam bee's  don't  swarm 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 04, 2012, 04:08 PM
WELL, WELL, WELL....The old Fart, trapper, has graced us with his presense...Good to see your still vertical my friend!!! Glad to hear the Mrs. is doing fine as well!!! ;) HELLO to all the 'Ol Farts!! ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 04, 2012, 07:54 PM
well  she's  had  more then her share  of  sizures  but she's  doing great in therapy  and getting out  so  little at a  time  my  friend  ....   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 06, 2012, 05:52 PM
God Bless her my friend!! ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 06, 2012, 07:31 PM
thanks   KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Sep 08, 2012, 05:25 AM
God Bless her my friend!! ;)--KP 8)
I second that. Hope she gets better soon.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 09, 2012, 03:05 PM
thank  you  guys  ....  just  to  let  you  know  ...last night i  was  surprized  with her singing  silent  night  and  reading the words  as  she  sung  ....  yup life  is  good   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 09, 2012, 05:18 PM
Progressive steps FORWARD Trap....that's what we want to hear!! LIFE IS GOOD!!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 10, 2012, 12:00 PM
last  night  she  started  dialing  her  cell  phone !!!!   everything  exactly  like  they  told  me  ,  it's  good  to  have  her  back   ...she  yelled  at  me  for  tracking  on the  floor   ;D

the  good  news  i  spend  a  few  hours  down  to  the  river  again  tossed  bead  head  pheasant tails  and  did  better    now  tonight i'll  do up  some  salmon  flies  and  get the  8 wt  out    grand daughter  tells  me  she's  ready   ;D

                                                                                                                                           yeah  life  is  good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 12, 2012, 05:53 PM
Good stuff Trap!!! Now....what fly would you be using on salmon this time of the year........ ::)--KP :D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 12, 2012, 10:31 PM
a big  ole  ca-yuk  flie!  it's  a  size  2 mustad    with  some  orange   glow  bug  yarn  tied  on  it  so  it's  easy  to  see  in  the  water  ...  fish  it  slow  and  deep  with  several  bb  size  split  shots  2  to  3  feet  aboe  fly   ...when  you  see a  salmon   cast  upstream    with  the  fly  slightly  on  the  far  side  of  the  fish  ...  alow  it  to  swing  down    when  the  fly  disapears  and  the  shot  are   just  beyond the  fishes  mouth  set  the  hook  withaa  mighty  CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA  YuKKKKKK     these  fish  are  so  fast  and  so  delicate  you  seldom  feel  the  hit   :rotflol:....................... come  on  admit  it  your  all laughing
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 13, 2012, 12:34 AM
I certainly am :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:

Finesse snagging ::) It is an art form.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: shark on Sep 13, 2012, 01:31 PM
  The gentlemen i used to socialize with called it " Lifting " Not snagging  ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Sep 13, 2012, 02:00 PM
I prefer the term "flossing"

question for ya'll reguarding "old f--ts with flyrods"...
I certianly qualify on the flyrod end of things, but how about old? Im feeling really old - I just hired someone who was born the year after I graduated high school... ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: OTIS on Sep 13, 2012, 02:13 PM
I prefer the term "flossing"

question for ya'll reguarding "old f--ts with flyrods"...
I certianly qualify on the flyrod end of things, but how about old? Im feeling really old - I just hired someone who was born the year after I graduated high school... ::)

You're a pup!  HeHeHe!  Wait until you have a couple more kids under your belt!  :o  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 13, 2012, 04:21 PM
I prefer the term "flossing"

question for ya'll reguarding "old f--ts with flyrods"...
I certianly qualify on the flyrod end of things, but how about old? Im feeling really old - I just hired someone who was born the year after I graduated high school... ::)

I have sneakers older than you kid ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 13, 2012, 07:05 PM
a big  ole  ca-yuk  flie!  it's  a  size  2 mustad    with  some  orange   glow  bug  yarn  tied  on  it  so  it's  easy  to  see  in  the  water  ...  fish  it  slow  and  deep  with  several  bb  size  split  shots  2  to  3  feet  aboe  fly   ...when  you  see a  salmon   cast  upstream    with  the  fly  slightly  on  the  far  side  of  the  fish  ...  alow  it  to  swing  down    when  the  fly  disapears  and  the  shot  are   just  beyond the  fishes  mouth  set  the  hook  withaa  mighty  CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA  YuKKKKKK     these  fish  are  so  fast  and  so  delicate  you  seldom  feel  the  hit   :rotflol:....................... come  on  admit  it  your  all laughing
LMAO!!!!!!!  :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :rotflol: I think I've witnessed that a time or three!!!! :whistling: Good stuff Trap!!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 14, 2012, 03:21 PM
I prefer the term "flossing"

question for ya'll reguarding "old f--ts with flyrods"...
I certianly qualify on the flyrod end of things, but how about old? Im feeling really old - I just hired someone who was born the year after I graduated high school... ::)

ya got  twin  boys  ...............  we  may  lower  the  age  requirement  a  little  in special  cases  such  as  yours  dark  cloud  
.... flossin  snaggin  liftin   ...wow   ....i  perfer  to  call  it " river rat  salmon  population management "......i  wonder how  many  names  there are for  it  ???????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Sep 14, 2012, 03:56 PM
One of each Trap, get it right... they aint happy with you...  ;D
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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 14, 2012, 04:00 PM
what  ya  talkin  about  one  of  each  ???????  there  both  keepers ;D....................  your  a  lucky  man 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 14, 2012, 04:21 PM
He doesn't see it Jay. I just spit Heineken all over my laptop. Toooooo Funny.


RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: esox v on Sep 14, 2012, 05:26 PM
 :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 14, 2012, 05:41 PM
who  you kidding  rg  you  can't  see  the  screen any  better  then me   :w00t:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Sep 14, 2012, 05:42 PM
One of each Trap, get it right... they aint happy with you...  ;D
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I WONDER IF THEY WILL FIT IN YOUR PACK BASKET WHEN THE ICE COMES.LOL
 ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 14, 2012, 06:26 PM
my  daughter  use  to  get  in my  pack  basket  when  i  walked  trapping  lol  my  son  was  always  running  ahead ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 16, 2012, 05:51 PM
He doesn't see it Jay. I just spit Heineken all over my laptop. Toooooo Funny.


RG
:rotflol: :rotflol: ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 16, 2012, 06:41 PM
i seen  da  little  hand  ...geezzzz  ...and  don't waste  good  beer
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 17, 2012, 01:44 AM
Only took ya 2 days ::)

What an awful thing to teach a baby.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 17, 2012, 03:57 AM
i really  did  miss  it  :rotflol:........
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 17, 2012, 11:17 AM
I guess you need a new camera AND new glasses.

Ah....it's wonderful being an "Old Fart".. I have the rest of the day off. I think those new flies I've been tying need a baptism. :w00t: :w00t:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: OTIS on Sep 17, 2012, 11:22 AM
Only took ya 2 days ::)

What an awful thing to teach a baby.

RG

She's DC's baby, I don't think she needed to be taught.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Sep 22, 2012, 02:58 AM
You guys crack me up.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 20, 2013, 06:01 PM
Soooooo...where are the 'Ol Farts!!??  ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Mar 20, 2013, 06:22 PM
Soooooo...where are the 'Ol Farts!!??  ;D--KP 8)

Playing shuffelboard and eating jello down at the senior center...

Hey RG - sorry I missed your b-day! Hope it was a good one buddy...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 21, 2013, 04:29 PM
Yeah, I splurged and had pudding.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 21, 2013, 06:12 PM
well  we   ain"t  babysittin   :rotflol: ......
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Mar 21, 2013, 07:34 PM
well  we   ain"t  babysittin   :rotflol: ......

I dont mind...  8)
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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: nightfisher on Mar 21, 2013, 07:46 PM
 Great pic DC, looks like they are getting a "taste " for fishing..... ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 21, 2013, 08:09 PM
lolllllll   time   for  snoopy  poles!  you  know  my  daughter  has  hers  30  years   later 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Mar 21, 2013, 08:14 PM
Great pic DC, looks like they are getting a "taste " for fishing..... ;D

well, Tank keeps trying to give them walleyes. In another 10 days it will be trout  ;D
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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 22, 2013, 01:59 AM
That's pretty cute Jay ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Mar 22, 2013, 07:11 PM
Black betty field testers..lol ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 23, 2013, 04:17 AM
i'm thinking  the  baby is  giving tank the walleyes  .......  nice  pictures  man ...your a  lucky man!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 23, 2013, 06:46 PM
Great stuff Jay!! Boy, they are growing fast!  :)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 11, 2013, 06:18 AM
i  took  the  fly rod  out   last  night to the  exact  spot where i  first fly fished  ohhhhh lets say  close  to 50 years ago  (HT  and  KP  shut  up !) i fished  for  the  same  fish too  small white perch and  bluegills .....started  out  with  a  simular  fly ,a  small  panfish  popper ....  and  yup  the  smacked  it  till  the rain forced me  to call it a  night  .....  isn't it funny how a  old  flyrod   can be a  time  machine ???? i looked  over at  the shore  where  we use  to  park  and swear i seen  a  old friend  standing  next  to a  beat  up plymouth wagon .....  fishing  wasn't  that good  with a  cold  front  coming  in ....  but  memorys  can warm the  soul   ;D

                                                                                                                                                     life  is  good  boys
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 12, 2013, 03:51 PM
Good for you ya Old Fart ;D

Nothing melts away the layers of life's crud like a fly rod and a few gills. I had the new 2wt at one of my favorite spots last Wednesday afternoon. The crappie loved my mini-clousers and I thoroughly enjoyed my my creations.

Not much better than that.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: BAZOOKAJOE on Apr 12, 2013, 03:56 PM
i  took  the  fly rod  out   last  night to the  exact  spot where i  first fly fished  ohhhhh lets say  close  to 50 years ago  (HT  and  KP  shut  up !) i fished  for  the  same  fish too  small white perch and  bluegills .....started  out  with  a  simular  fly ,a  small  panfish  popper ....  and  yup  the  smacked  it  till  the rain forced me  to call it a  night  .....  isn't it funny how a  old  flyrod   can be a  time  machine ???? i looked  over at  the shore  where  we use  to  park  and swear i seen  a  old friend  standing  next  to a  beat  up plymouth wagon .....  fishing  wasn't  that good  with a  cold  front  coming  in ....  but  memorys  can warm the  soul   ;D

                                                                                                                                                     life  is  good  boys

You weren't lining them...were ya?   :o

Good story, felt like I was there with you!!   8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Apr 12, 2013, 07:48 PM
i  took  the  fly rod  out   last  night to the  exact  spot where i  first fly fished  ohhhhh lets say  close  to 50 years ago  (HT  and  KP  shut  up !) i fished  for  the  same  fish too  small white perch and  bluegills .....started  out  with  a  simular  fly ,a  small  panfish  popper ....  and  yup  the  smacked  it  till  the rain forced me  to call it a  night  .....  isn't it funny how a  old  flyrod   can be a  time  machine ???? i looked  over at  the shore  where  we use  to  park  and swear i seen  a  old friend  standing  next  to a  beat  up plymouth wagon .....  fishing  wasn't  that good  with a  cold  front  coming  in ....  but  memorys  can warm the  soul   ;D

                                                                                                                                                     life  is  good  boys
Man trapper...you are right on.."isn't it funny how an old fly rod can be a time machine". ..."memories can warm the soul" .I'm new to this thread, but had to reply. One of the few good things about being an old fart is all the  fishing experiences that we have tucked safely away in the back of our minds....burned and stored forever into are memory banks. I pull out my first brand new  "bamboo" rod that I bought when I was in high school once in awhile....it was 1969 when i bought it, and I paid $180.00 bucks for it. A ton of money back then .Orvis Madison 7 1/2 ft. 5 wt.. I never told my parents how much i paid, my dad and mom never knew how to fish back then, they would not have understood.But that rod  and me became such good buddies..I fished with it all through the catskills and the Ausable  up north.When I take that rod out... it sends me back to the  late 60's and 70's...every week end on the Beaverkill and Willowemoc or Delaware and  sometimes Ausable.... with Mac , Tommy ,Bill , Greg, Joey , and Mr. Wanko..waiting for a hatch, dry flies only,no split shot nymph fishing with it, sleeping streamside , not many Posted signs back then,.. wake up , coffee, bacon and scrambled eggs on the coleman stove,stop at the Darbees and Dettes and Betters... tie up some flies for the afternoon ... wait for the swallows to start working ....fish the hatch and spinnerfall til after dark.... Late "dinner" of Dinty Moore beef stew ... a campfire...a few beers and smokes and stories of fish landed and lost..nod out, wake up in the morning and do it all over again. Man I loved those days...and that fly rod..and the memories...that do warm my soul trapper !!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Apr 12, 2013, 07:56 PM
Man trapper...you are right on.."isn't it funny how an old fly rod can be a time machine". ..."memories can warm the soul" .I'm new to this thread, but had to reply. One of the few good things about being an old fart is all the  fishing experiences that we have tucked safely away in the back of our minds....burned and stored forever into are memory banks. I pull out my first brand new  "bamboo" rod that I bought when I was in high school once in awhile....it was 1969 when i bought it, and I paid $180.00 bucks for it. A ton of money back then .Orvis Madison 7 1/2 ft. 5 wt.. I never told my parents how much i paid, my dad and mom never knew how to fish back then, they would not have understood.But that rod  and me became such good buddies..I fished with it all through the catskills and the Ausable  up north.When I take that rod out... it sends me back to the  late 60's and 70's...every week end on the Beaverkill and Willowemoc or Delaware and  sometimes Ausable.... with Mac , Tommy ,Bill , Greg, Joey , and Mr. Wanko..waiting for a hatch, dry flies only,no split shot nymph fishing with it, sleeping streamside , not many Posted signs back then,.. wake up , coffee, bacon and scrambled eggs on the coleman stove,stop at the Darbees and Dettes and Betters... tie up some flies for the afternoon ... wait for the swallows to start working ....fish the hatch and spinnerfall til after dark.... Late "dinner" of Dinty Moore beef stew ... a campfire...a few beers and smokes and stories of fish landed and lost..nod out, wake up in the morning and do it all over again. Man I loved those days...and that fly rod..and the memories...that do warm my soul trapper !!

Awesome post Buddy!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 12, 2013, 08:23 PM
choo choo  ...  in the  60's was a  store  called  the  easy  bargin center in fulton  when i was  really little  i  actually  was lifted  up  by a  man and my  pic  taken ...now i know  thatt man was  robert kennedy  ...anyways  i  got my  first  flyrod  there  a  cheap  bamboo  and  reel with  a  level line ....  a  card  of  fly  rod  poppers  filled  the  ticket  ...then pop  drove  me  to  northbay in fulton where  i  hooked  everything but a  fish for the  first hour ...as  it started getting  dark  the  "silver  bass"  as  we  called  them  then  started  hitting  those  poppers  .....  and  thats  where  i  started  fly  fishing  ......  my  pop  was  far  from rich  but  he  could always  afford  to  spend  time  with his  kids  ,and  fishing was always  fun ....  glass bottles  of  grape  soda  ....  chocolate  bars  where  the snacks  .....  life  was  good 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Apr 12, 2013, 10:27 PM
choo choo  ...  in the  60's was a  store  called  the  easy  bargin center in fulton  when i was  really little  i  actually  was lifted  up  by a  man and my  pic  taken ...now i know  thatt man was  robert kennedy  ...anyways  i  got my  first  flyrod  there  a  cheap  bamboo  and  reel with  a  level line ....  a  card  of  fly  rod  poppers  filled  the  ticket  ...then pop  drove  me  to  northbay in fulton where  i  hooked  everything but a  fish for the  first hour ...as  it started getting  dark  the  "silver  bass"  as  we  called  them  then  started  hitting  those  poppers  .....  and  thats  where  i  started  fly  fishing  ......  my  pop  was  far  from rich  but  he  could always  afford  to  spend  time  with his  kids  ,and  fishing was always  fun ....  glass bottles  of  grape  soda  ....  chocolate  bars  where  the snacks  .....  life  was  good  
Great story trapper...those memories you will never forget . Special times for sure. Man, stuff like that we remember from 40, 50 or more years ago...but we can't remember what we had for lunch today, or dinner yesterday !! LOL! You are lucky to have a dad who taught you how to fish. A special bond. My dad did not know how to fish, but he would always drive me to where i wanted to fish then pick me up towrds evening. Mom would pack me a lunch and I was good for the day. I had six brothers and sisters , so dad was always running around. None of my six brothers or sisters fished, so I was the black sheep. After  years of dropping me off and picking me up, dad asked me to teach him how to fish...so I was lucky in another way...I got to teach my dad how to fish !   in  8th grade, a classmate of mines dad who was a fly fisherman, invited me to go with them to fish the Beaverkill, where I had never been before. Mr Wanko taught me and his son how to fly cast up there. When we got home I told my dad i needed to buy a fly rod ...which i did...a fiberglass fenwick and ocean city reel....A week or two later, with Mr. Wanko coaching me, I caught my first trout on a fly, Light Cahill, Willowemoc creek, just upstream from the covered bridge. A fly fisherman was born...1967...and I remember that fish like it was yesterday!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Apr 12, 2013, 10:28 PM
Awesome post Buddy!
Thanks Jay...glad you liked it.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 13, 2013, 02:13 AM
Well, If we're gonna wax nostalgic.....
In about 1968 I spotted an 8' Fenwick Fenglass 5 wt at a local bait store that caught my eye like a slinky blonde. Can't remember what I paid, not that it matters. I purchased a Pfleuger Medalist, a hunk of Cortland line and  a handful of flies and off I went. I knew nothing about trout (still don't) so I headed for my favorite bass crick.

There were no coaches. Dad wasn't a fisherman, neither were my brothers and most of my 18 year old friends were either tough guy Italian kids in iridescent blue suits or raggedy-assed hippies who would rather have hugged a fish than eat it. A loner is what I was. So, I fished alone.

At the time my mode of transport was a 1962 Rambler American which I had purchased for $75 from my earnings as a slave for a local Big Boy restaurant. She wasn't pretty, but she rolled.....and roll we did. My fly case was one of those roll up, sheepskin lined things. Leader was the smallest diameter mono I had at the time. Forceps were a pair of pliers. Fishing vest was my shirt pocket and my wading boots were my oldest sneakers.

I taught myself to fly fish much as I've taught myself to build rods and tie flies. I realize now that my successes and failures weren't important. It was the journey. The days on the stream from sun up to sun down. The solitude of moving waters. The flies which remain stuck in the trees and the fish that were caught and released or consumed.

Even today, some 40 odd years later, when I step into that water and start stripping out line, I feel the exact same anticipation, peace and pure joy of moving water. Pity the person who never knows that feeling.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Apr 13, 2013, 03:26 AM
Great stories. Keep them coming , I am going fishing  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Apr 13, 2013, 05:22 AM
I'll post more later... I got a baby free pass and a date with a fly rod and some minnows.  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 13, 2013, 05:55 AM
RG  good  too see  ya  on here!  .....  i love  the  trips  down memory  road!  i love  sharing them  and  reliving  them  .....there the  trophys  of  life ,it's good we all have them ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Apr 13, 2013, 07:31 AM
Well, If we're gonna wax nostalgic.....
In about 1968 I spotted an 8' Fenwick Fenglass 5 wt at a local bait store that caught my eye like a slinky blonde. Can't remember what I paid, not that it matters. I purchased a Pfleuger Medalist, a hunk of Cortland line and  a handful of flies and off I went. I knew nothing about trout (still don't) so I headed for my favorite bass crick.

There were no coaches. Dad wasn't a fisherman, neither were my brothers and most of my 18 year old friends were either tough guy Italian kids in iridescent blue suits or raggedy-assed hippies who would rather have hugged a fish than eat it. A loner is what I was. So, I fished alone.

At the time my mode of transport was a 1962 Rambler American which I had purchased for $75 from my earnings as a slave for a local Big Boy restaurant. She wasn't pretty, but she rolled.....and roll we did. My fly case was one of those roll up, sheepskin lined things. Leader was the smallest diameter mono I had at the time. Forceps were a pair of pliers. Fishing vest was my shirt pocket and my wading boots were my oldest sneakers.

I taught myself to fly fish much as I've taught myself to build rods and tie flies. I realize now that my successes and failures weren't important. It was the journey. The days on the stream from sun up to sun down. The solitude of moving waters. The flies which remain stuck in the trees and the fish that were caught and released or consumed.

Even today, some 40 odd years later, when I step into that water and start stripping out line, I feel the exact same anticipation, peace and pure joy of moving water. Pity the person who never knows that feeling.

RG
Great story RG...You are so right when you say "the successes and failures weren't important."it was the journey"  Man what a great journey it has been. The fish we caught were not as important as the experiences we had on the river or pond we were on. The feel and joy we had just wading around and casting to different targets....didn't matter it it was a trout, bass , bluegill, or a perch or chub. The line loading the rod on the pick up and backcast...the false casts swishing back and forth....the timing of the final cast as we re -load the rod and the whisper soft landing of our fly line and leader ,with tiny ripples,..then the touchdown of our fly or popper....then the anticipation and hope of a take...or a look and a rejection. Man that never gets old.Fishing with our own hand tied flies and our own handwrapped rods makes it that much sweeter. We all started fishing in differnt places for different fish, but we are all connected by the enjoyment we get by casting a line to a fish, and spending time in the outdoors,and all the memories we have from hanging around in very "fishy" places. Hopefully we all can add many more memories and have many, many more days chasing those  water loving, finned, scaled creatures .... that keep us sane ,stable and HAPPY !!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: chrony59 on Apr 13, 2013, 07:53 AM
Great stories guys ................... mine is very similar . I pity the poor guys that don't understand how I could want to chase those stupid fish with fake flies !! It's one of the keys that have kept me married 25+ years to a sweetheart of a woman and raised two great boys !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 13, 2013, 12:41 PM
Great stories my friends!! There will be a day where I'll have to dig into my memory archives and retrieve a little something for you guys to enjoy. I'm certain Jay has a boatload of them to share, as, I enjoy reading and seeing some of his posted pics of His father and himself. Great stuff Jay! Josh, my son, as most of you know as KP Jr. has quite the resume' of fishing outtings that, I believe he will be able to pass on when I leave this world. Great times, Great fishing, Great memories...what more could a person ask for?!!

LIFE IS GOOD!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 13, 2013, 05:17 PM
larry  ....you  got a  great  young  man  there   ;D.................hope  yer feeling better  too
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Apr 13, 2013, 06:18 PM
I'll post my history with the love of the flyrod when I get a half hour...
Tank and I got out for a few hours this am. Picked up a dozen brookies...
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Post by: chrony59 on Apr 13, 2013, 06:24 PM
sweet brookies  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Apr 13, 2013, 07:08 PM
sweet brookies  ;D

Thanks!
Those were in the vest for a bit. This one looks better, fresh and a little editing  8)
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Post by: drowndin dots on Apr 13, 2013, 09:02 PM


   Nice fish DC , Great eats .
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Post by: silvercreeker on Apr 13, 2013, 09:10 PM
Love those colors!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Apr 14, 2013, 06:09 AM
nice natives DC....Yummy...I  can almost taste them...trout and eggs to start the day!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 14, 2013, 06:17 AM
hey  at  least  someone  got  fish!!!!  nice  job!  between high water that  looks  like  chocolate  milk  and  this  cold  front  i'm  doing  very little ...keep up  the  good work!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Apr 14, 2013, 07:56 PM
Tank and I got out again this morning and found a bunch of fish... 8)
I was downstream but got back in time to get this sequence of picts...
"I just got 2 and missed one in that tiny middle seam of the fast water"
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/jayvassil/002_zps9547d649.jpg)
Need to reach out a tad further...
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/jayvassil/003-1_zps3af053d6.jpg)
No good place to land em equals airborne trout...
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/jayvassil/004-2_zps4088241d.jpg)
This one will eat...
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/jayvassil/006_zps6db98a29.jpg)
Oh yeah, one of the earlier ones I got was a slob!
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/jayvassil/007-1_zpsb4469200.jpg)

This pict was to show the awesomeness of a 9ft fly rod on a tiny stream. I reached in to that little pocket with a foot of line out and yoked out 2 brookies. No 5ft ultralite was gonna work there  8)
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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Apr 14, 2013, 07:59 PM
nice natives DC....Yummy...I  can almost taste them...trout and eggs to start the day!

We had trout and halushki for dinner...  8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 15, 2013, 05:06 AM
fished  my local  lake  last  night  with little  success  but i noticed  swallows  and a  few  flies  on the water   ;D i'm  sure  after todays  a  foam  spider  will be  the ticket  for  gill and white perch fun ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 15, 2013, 04:37 PM
We had trout and halushki for dinner...  8)

That'll slam the old arteries shut. Nice combo though.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 15, 2013, 09:28 PM
fresh  crappie  fillets rice and  broc.  for  diner  here ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Apr 15, 2013, 11:00 PM
I don't eat fish!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 16, 2013, 02:12 PM
digging  out  some  foam  think  i'll need a  fresh  supply  of  spiders  and  beetles  soon  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 16, 2013, 04:28 PM
digging  out  some  foam  think  i'll need a  fresh  supply  of  spiders  and  beetles  soon  ;D
ummmm....me too!! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 16, 2013, 05:30 PM
Geez Trapper.....wonder what the kid needs now :-\  And...I don't mean Josh ;D

I'm in the throws of refurbishing my good old Johnson 30hp. I have it in pieces in the garage and just painted the first pieces. It all started with a small...barely noticeable lower unit oil leak. I really hate being responsible for putting 90EP into the ecosystem. Sooooooo....I replaced the lower unit seals. I figured as long as I was doing that, I might as well do the water pump, housing and seals.

So, as long as I was already into it....the steering and controls were 30 years old and I might as well replace those too. Soooooooooooo...I figured as long as I had the motor apart anyway, I may as well clean her up and give her a new paint job. OYE!

It'll be done by May 15 no matter what. That is if I can contain my overwhelming desire to re-carpet the old boat. Oh heck...I may do it anyway ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: shark on Apr 16, 2013, 05:46 PM
RG,  Thats part of the fun owning a boat ,  I have rebiult many boats over the years and picked up another project boat that I'm gonna start on shortly, A Sea Nymph .
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 16, 2013, 07:08 PM
Geez Trapper.....wonder what the kid needs now  :-\  And...I don't mean Josh ;D

I'm in the throws of refurbishing my good old Johnson 30hp. I have it in pieces in the garage and just painted the first pieces. It all started with a small...barely noticeable lower unit oil leak. I really hate being responsible for putting 90EP into the ecosystem. Sooooooo....I replaced the lower unit seals. I figured as long as I was doing that, I might as well do the water pump, housing and seals.

So, as long as I was already into it....the steering and controls were 30 years old and I might as well replace those too. Soooooooooooo...I figured as long as I had the motor apart anyway, I may as well clean her up and give her a new paint job. OYE!

It'll be done by May 15 no matter what. That is if I can contain my overwhelming desire to re-carpet the old boat. Oh heck...I may do it anyway ;D

RG
No...no....no...You 'Ol Farts got it wrong! What I meant was....KP was going to tie up some foam flies!! It's just that My spiders and beetles aren't as nice as the ones you 'Ol Farts tie!! :whistling: ;D

On another note, You sir, impressed the hell out of me with the amount of tinkering You do!! Seriously though, How can a guy take a custom rod blank, turn it into a fly tosser and then, tear a boat motor apart, rebuild it, paint it, and, put it back together all in such a short time?? You, my friend, are HIRED!!! ;D

I'll be anxiously waiting for the pics of the rehab of the 'Ol boat Bob! I'm certain it will turn out just fine!! ;) Going to have to plan a roadtrip, once, You have her back together! ;)--KP 8)  LIFE IS GOOD!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 16, 2013, 09:01 PM
RG   toss  the  carpet  in but as a  old  intaller  i  suggest  you  use  contact  cement and  not  outdoor  carpet  adhesive ......  if  ya need help  i  think i  might remeber  how  to  do it  ;D

now  get  some  time and  let  me  know  when you  plan a  trip  this  way .i'll  have a  hot  gill spot  ready and a  couple  cold  henikens  waiting for  after ..... i  never checked  KP's  id  better  give  him a  pepsi  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 17, 2013, 01:29 AM
I've had the old boat for 33 years now. and it's still very serviceable. I've carpeted and renovated it a few different ways over the years. The outboard is the real project. I had it out on the Bay perch fishing a couple of weeks ago and the steering cable was really stiff. I took it apart and found that the covering was split and the cable was rusted up. Time for some new controls!

It's been on there since 1968 when the boat was built. I guess it don't owe me anything. The motor controls were an old Simplex set I scrounged from a junk yard 20 years ago. They were 20 years old then...they don't owe me anything either. I bought the motor in the 90's for $800 and haven't had to do a thing but change spark plugs every couple of years.

The motor will get;
gear case seals
water pump kit and housing
upper motor mounts
primer assembly
lower motor mount
new steering support tube
New Teleflex steering cable and helm
New Uflex controls and cables
and....maybe an electric starter kit

The boat's gonna get some new carpet and maybe a slight re-arrangement of the battery location and helm location. I have a couple of ideas floating around my brain.

As far as "tinkering " goes, it keeps me from counting my toes Larry ;D.

RG



Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 17, 2013, 04:14 AM
RG  well i'm glad  your  giving  your old  friend a  little  face  lift !  sounds  like  that  boat  has some storys  to  tell  !!!! :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 17, 2013, 06:52 AM
RG   toss  the  carpet  in but as a  old  intaller  i  suggest  you  use  contact  cement and  not  outdoor  carpet  adhesive ......  if  ya need help  i  think i  might remeber  how  to  do it  ;D

now  get  some  time and  let  me  know  when you  plan a  trip  this  way .i'll  have a  hot  gill spot  ready and a  couple  cold  henikens  waiting for  after ..... i  never checked  KP's  id  better  give  him a  pepsi  ;D
You two 'ol farts are funny! ;D

Bob, You mentioned, that your motor is  90 hp, and, your thinking of adding electric start kit....hmmmm, are you pull starting that motor now? or just upgrading the electric start system that is on it? If your pull starting that size motor, Your in ALOT better shape than you have us believing you are!!!! :flex: :flex: :rotflol:

YEP, 10 toes!! ;D

Life is good!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: drowndin dots on Apr 17, 2013, 06:56 AM



  RG , You ever considered a Rino Liner type bottom instead of Carpet ? Or take you're epoxy paint and sprinkle sand on it as it dries for traction ?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 17, 2013, 05:00 PM
It's a 30hp Larry. I'm pretty fit, but no way I'm cranking up a 90 by hand :rotflol:

Thanks for the tip DD but the sub floor is made of 5/8 PT plank. It was plywood once....about 30 years ago ;D I removed the rotting plywood and rebuilt the keel and chines and then planed down some 5/4 x 6 pt for floor planks. It airs out the bilge and has lasted very well. That's why I opted for the carpet treatment.

Besides, the carpet is way more comfortable for a boat nap.

I'll have to take some time for pics as I play with this project.

RG
 

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 18, 2013, 06:02 AM
hurry  up  rg! another weekn  and  gills will move  in shallow and  we need  to be  chucking  foam and hooks at them  !!!!  i  got  to admitt  i am using the  jon boat  more  this  year  then  a  kayak  .... getting  lazy i  think
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 18, 2013, 05:39 PM
I'm getting there Trap. I've got some stuff on order yet. New primer assembly, control cables. motor mounts. By Monday I'll have the motor cleaned and painted.

A couple of weeks and I'll be down to carpet and trim.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 19, 2013, 04:40 AM
i  got that  new  jon boat  and  i'm loving it  ....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 20, 2013, 07:28 PM
OYE! This is getting expensive.
3 motor mounts                                        $ 90
Steering cable and helm                              135
Control box                                                125
Control cables                                              67
Water pump kit                                            40
Gear case seal kit                                         40
Decal set                                                      65
Primer pump assembly                                  74
Gear case stud                                               8
Paint and degreasers                                     30

outboard parts are a lucrative  business.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 20, 2013, 09:36 PM
RG ...... yer having a  ball  restoring the  old  girl  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 21, 2013, 04:28 AM
That I am Trap! That I am ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fenwick2010 on Apr 21, 2013, 09:21 AM
well guys its been a while seince ive posted on here....  Its good to be back ! Im mostly up on the salmon river or oswego for the steelhead during the winter and fall ,  also im an ice fishing fanatic . I've become  bored with float fishing beads and  marabous jigs so I went out and bought a 8 weight  temple fork 9 ft fly rod .I'm exited to move into t fly fishing . I have experence casting,  when i was a kid we had an old  pfluger  auto fly reel on a ten ft. flyrod that i played with here and there. I just have to practice roll casting and other casting tech. I can pick up any fishing rod and with a week of practice I will be able to get out on the river fishing so thats not the issue , It's  the whole fly line  thing that confuses me.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fenwick2010 on Apr 21, 2013, 09:28 AM
I mostly want to fish streamers swinging   into the seams near shore . I dont cast more than 25 feet ever. Im usualy fishing from 2ft of water to 5 ft  ... And i will fish stoneflies and other nymphs and 3egg patterns . But most of my steelhead success is fishing beads and floating jigs  so Im going to stay with what works. Drifting streamers and fishing egg patterns.  Im thinking im going to only need weight forward floating flyline and just add weight to the fly if im fishing deeper than a ft and meand line to get the fly down.  am I going in the right direction ? I want to keep it simple for the first year ... My reel is a sage 7 / 8 weight large arbor.  200 yards of 20 lb backing. I'm just looking for some tips and help with what  fly line im going to do best with  with what  kind of fishing I've described. Any information will help me out , thanks . And Kowboy, i cant wait to get back out on the river with you again ... Id like to see how much youve learned in the past 2 years. I remember when you first started  and we met up  a couple of times and had a good time .
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 21, 2013, 11:20 AM
OYE! This is getting expensive.
3 motor mounts                                        $ 90
Steering cable and helm                              135
Control box                                                125
Control cables                                              67
Water pump kit                                            40
Gear case seal kit                                         40
Decal set                                                      65
Primer pump assembly                                  74
Gear case stud                                               8
Paint and degreasers                                     30

outboard parts are a lucrative  business.

RG

Just keep past and future fishing trips in the back of your mind while fixin' up the 'Ol Girl....makes you forget about the prices of boat parts !!! ;)

Have fun my friend!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: drowndin dots on Apr 21, 2013, 11:55 AM


   KP , No it does not  :P Break Out Another Thousand RG  ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 21, 2013, 04:20 PM
Fenwick, What's the action on that 8wt? If it's fast you may like a double taper better.

My 9ft - 5wt Axiom likes a DT  much better than a weight forward.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Apr 26, 2013, 07:15 AM
well guys its been a while seince ive posted on here....  Its good to be back ! Im mostly up on the salmon river or oswego for the steelhead during the winter and fall ,  also im an ice fishing fanatic . I've become  bored with float fishing beads and  marabous jigs so I went out and bought a 8 weight  temple fork 9 ft fly rod .I'm exited to move into t fly fishing . I have experence casting,  when i was a kid we had an old  pfluger  auto fly reel on a ten ft. flyrod that i played with here and there. I just have to practice roll casting and other casting tech. I can pick up any fishing rod and with a week of practice I will be able to get out on the river fishing so thats not the issue , It's  the whole fly line  thing that confuses me.
Good luck with your new set up fenwick. I am just the opposite of you...less with the fly rod  for steelhead after many years, and am intrigued  and fishing  mostly with center pin  float fishing now. If you are going to be just using weighted flies, the double taper line is fine, if ,like rg said ,your rod action is soft enough to load it up on short casts with not much fly line out.If it is a little stiff action tip rod, you might want to use the weight forward line for short casts especially, to better load the rod....roll casts too.The double taper has a couple of advantages if your rod throws it well...you can turn it around,and have a "brand new" line when it gets dinged up after a couple years of steelie rock/wood line rubbing. If you do any heavy water bottom bouncing and have to add a lot of weight to get down,or indicator and weight drifting , some rods are then overloaded and "wash" out on a long cast with a weight forward with the added weight of shot and floats etc....where as the double taper ,with less weight up front, can handle the extra shot and floats without over loading. Another idea is to get extra spool for your reel, and get both lines so you can handle all river situations and conditions with your rod!...good luck.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 26, 2013, 12:57 PM
i'm  addicted   to  the   fly  rod   ...  i  use  a  short  line  nymph tec  and   find  it   works   great   when  steel  are  in  warmer   water   early  fall    also   just   drifting  nymphs  and  egg  patterens  ,  streamers   for  agrressive  fall  back  spring  fish  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fenwick2010 on Apr 28, 2013, 08:10 AM
its a med / fast action wich im okay with seince its a pack 4 piece but i would have wanted a slower action a bit more in a ten ft . I should have looked around more but if it works for steelhead i will enjoy the rod
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: one last cast on Apr 28, 2013, 08:28 AM
I'm semi old, and use my fly rods 90% of the time so I guess I'm in the thread! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 28, 2013, 11:56 AM
"Old" is relative  ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Apr 28, 2013, 01:12 PM
wife - "lets put the kids in those little belly harness carry thingys and go for a walk out back"
me - "sure, I'll grab them downstairs when i grab a fishing rod"
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/jayvassil/031_zps5ae0d802.jpg)

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: one last cast on Apr 28, 2013, 04:47 PM
"Old" is relative  ;D

RG
I'm just busting chops RG, btw how are my leaders coming ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: one last cast on Apr 28, 2013, 04:50 PM
wife - "lets put the kids in those little belly harness carry thingys and go for a walk out back"
me - "sure, I'll grab them downstairs when i grab a fishing rod"
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/jayvassil/031_zps5ae0d802.jpg)

(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/jayvassil/023_zps9746c5e1.jpg)
congrats on getting them out there early  ;D it's the little things in life that are cherished the most.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 29, 2013, 05:13 AM
spring  gills  and  flyrods  ....what a  great time  for  old  faets  to  be  passing  a  little  tradition  of flyfishing  on down ;D ......take a  kid  fishing  .....or a  really old  fart  .....bluegills are  cheap but  smiles are  priceless ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on May 09, 2013, 05:58 AM
After trapper brought up about how an old fly rod can stir up memories of past friends and long ago fishing trips a few weeks back,I've been thinking about pulling out my old bamboo again. I hadn't had it out in a couple of years now,so it was time on it's 43 rd birthday. I can't believe that many seasons have gone by since  I bought that rod back in high school...man time really does fly by.It was one of what Orvis called their "impregnated" bamboo blanks...and it still looks as good as it did back then. And the feel is still awesome,....after several fiberglass fly rods, and 8 generations of graphite,... it feels just so smooth and sweet . Between the feel of the rod , and all the memories it brings back to me, i am going to fish it a lot more now. Here are a couple of fish from last week.
(http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu226/choo-choo-steve/20130502_122350.jpg) (http://s650.photobucket.com/user/choo-choo-steve/media/20130502_122350.jpg.html)

(http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu226/choo-choo-steve/20130502_131007.jpg) (http://s650.photobucket.com/user/choo-choo-steve/media/20130502_131007.jpg.html)

(http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu226/choo-choo-steve/20130502_155852.jpg) (http://s650.photobucket.com/user/choo-choo-steve/media/20130502_155852.jpg.html)

a couple on the graphite
(http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu226/choo-choo-steve/20130501_155143.jpg) (http://s650.photobucket.com/user/choo-choo-steve/media/20130501_155143.jpg.html)

(http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu226/choo-choo-steve/20130501_161408.jpg) (http://s650.photobucket.com/user/choo-choo-steve/media/20130501_161408.jpg.html)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: drowndin dots on May 09, 2013, 07:03 AM



   Great story Steve !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 09, 2013, 08:55 AM
Nothing can replace the feel of a well built bamboo rod in one's hands. I'm soon to be 58 going on 70. I would love to be a member of the old fart's club. Trapper did you ever get your package?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 09, 2013, 04:39 PM
"Old" is relative ;D

Welcome aboard.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 09, 2013, 05:01 PM
I have an old bamboo rod hanging on my office wall, right next to an old metal flyrod, that is a 4 piece rod that will retract into itself. RG may remember those. I would love to get the bamboo rod restored, but, reluctant to have it done. They came from an "Old" fart about 20 years ago, once He learned I had the flyfishing bug. I'm certain that bamboo rod landed quite a few fish in it's day. I used to love to hear the stories. Fred, is long gone now, and, I hold that piece of his history with pride. RIP 'Ol boy!!

Nice old bamboo rod Choo choo!!

Welcome aboard Black55...I'm the Jr. Old Fart here!! ;D

Bob, time to start planning a get together my friend!! ;)

Life Is Good!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 09, 2013, 07:02 PM
I have a couple of "Boo's"n my collection. One was given to me recently by a breakfast buddy. It was his grand dad's. A 9'6" 10 wt rod he used for salmon. It's a special gift from a friend who's approaching his end. I probably won't fish it, but It will remind me of him.

RG


Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on May 09, 2013, 08:33 PM
Thanks DD and KP...Rg And KP that is 2 more old fly rods that will bring back memories of a couple good old fishermen everytime you look at the rods.There is something about the old fly rods that take us back...or remind us of old fishing friends and places.My old bamboo and  my first fly rod, a fenwick fiberglass,  will do that for me forever ,I guess. I remember that I just had to buy a bamboo rod way back when. My fly fishing teacher, Mr. Wanko, and all his buddies  fished bamboo. And many of the older fishermen we would chat with,and fish with in the catskills ,fished bamboo too. Mr Wanko would let me cast his old bamboo orvis from time to time...and the feel was really special....I saved my money and got one.Pretty neat that it still fishes great  and feels so silky smooth...after all these years. I think of Mr. "Wank" all the time when I'm fishin'... especially when I have that old cane rod in my hands...I can still here him saying "Reebo"..."you got to sneak in a little closer" and "don't cast to far upstream and don't cast to close to the fish"...and "Reebo"...."NO DRAG ON THE FLY"!!Man I miss you Mr. Wanko...and thanks for teaching me...and thanks Trapper for having this thread.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on May 09, 2013, 09:06 PM
speaking of bamboo rods, is there any truth that bamboo rods may get brittle with age? If so, can a rod be resurrected?I'm hesitant  to use a rod my Dad made in the 50's.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 09, 2013, 11:14 PM
My dad  pass down my grandfathers bamboo rod to me if i remenber right he said that it was ordered from sears in the late 30's it is a 2 piece rod but i am not sure of the wt . All the printing is gone, i'm lucky to have it as my dad was not a fisherman.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on May 10, 2013, 07:12 AM
speaking of bamboo rods, is there any truth that bamboo rods may get brittle with age? If so, can a rod be resurrected?I'm hesitant  to use a rod my Dad made in the 50's.
they can get brittle and break down after years and years depending on how and where they wer stored. I never did much to my bamboo rods,just a little vaseline on the ferrules,and never put them away into the rod tubes until the were completely dry. I read somewhere  that a little furniture polish helps them age well too..and have used it on the rods too. THere are still plenty of places ,i'm pretty sure, that can restore old bamboo rods. I would not try and use your dads old rod until it was looked at first by a bamboo expert. Good luck...and at least you can enjoy looking at it and holding it...and think of your Dad..awesome treasure to have .
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 10, 2013, 06:08 PM
I've restored a few boos over the years.

My last was a South Bend 59.

Before;
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/southbendproject001.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/southbendproject001.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/southbendproject002.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/southbendproject002.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/southbendproject003.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/southbendproject003.jpg.html)

After;
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/southbend59.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/southbend59.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/southbend59005.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/southbend59005.jpg.html)

I've yet to complete the second tip section, but the rod fishes like a dream.

If you check the ferrules very closely and find no loose parts, and there are no separations or splits to be seen, put a line on it and try it in the back yard. Otherwise, I'd be happy to take a look at it for you.

Of course, you might have to show me a couple of those Oatka trout....but it seems a fair trade ;D

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 10, 2013, 06:47 PM
Very nice Bob!! I don't recall seeing the finished product on the 'Ol Boo rod!! Great job bud! ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on May 10, 2013, 10:52 PM
That IS very nice work! Good job!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 10, 2013, 11:23 PM
That IS very nice work! Good job!!!
X2 i seem to recall that bamboo rods set (Just a slight curve) after a few yrs i can see it in mine.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 11, 2013, 03:59 AM
Thanks,
KP, I'll let you have it for the day when I come up. The first three bamboo rods I restored were destroyed in a basement flood along with all of my fly tying stuff at the time. I lost interest for many years after that, I think I was grieving.

Then this Old Fart With A Flyrod called Trapper or something, managed to rekindle the flame. All I can say is Thanks!

Oh...and YOU COST ME A LOT OF MONEY Ya old buzzard! ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on May 11, 2013, 09:01 AM
I know I posted this back 3 years ago when I built it, but I'll re-post for grins and the newbs...

So I got it in my head that I wanted a bamboo flyrod. Didnt mind re-finishing an old one but I didnt want junk, wanted to fish with it, and didnt want a small mortgage... ;D
After almost a year of looking at blanks and old rods I bought a really cheap blank off evil-bay... Mistake! It wasnt fit for stakin tomatos.
Eventually found a rod builder out on the west coast that was relativly quick and not outragious... I researched the heck out of actions and had him make a Payne 102 clone. The blank came and it was perfect...

Multiple coats of spar and sanding. Pict of drying on my custom drying rack...
(http://imageshack.us/a/img535/8005/010cw.jpg)
Went with a cigar style grip which was common on Paynes. Back then they also used 1/4 inch cork rings instead of the now common 1/2s. Also the glues used were not very clear so you could typically see the "glue lines", I added ground up dark cork for to my glue to get the effect
(http://imageshack.us/a/img709/9674/008yx.jpg)
Added a replica/clone of a reel seat used on Paynes and nailed the look on the handle...
(http://imageshack.us/a/img28/2904/001lun.jpg)

Here is where I strayed from the Payne look. In my research I discovered that silk thread left untreated would go "clear"... I had to try it, and it worked like a charm. Here is a guide half done...
(http://imageshack.us/a/img17/2739/002tuh.jpg)

Really happy with how it came out! Spent way more than planned(kinda like RGs motor)
She cast nice once I got the right line on it, definatly different to cast...
First brown on her(local)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img232/674/008ks.jpg)
First rainbow, Choo-choos region, lower east branch delly
I started with a Bronson Royalist from the 60's on it. And ened up finding a nearly mint US made Pflueger from the early 70s for it...
(http://imageshack.us/a/img153/8821/003mb.jpg)

If I get time I'll dig up our old fiberglass rods. I have a pile of Shakespear "Wonder Rods" that were my grandfathers, dads, and uncles...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: drowndin dots on May 11, 2013, 09:14 AM



   Beautiful work as always DC  :bowdown: :bowdown:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 11, 2013, 06:31 PM


   Beautiful work as always DC  :bowdown: :bowdown:
X2 dark cloud if it's not being to nosey what was the final cost of your rod ? i would give my left you what for a rod like that !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on May 12, 2013, 07:27 AM
A little over 5 bills finished...
The blank was 325, from my research, I got a huge deal. Like a half price type deal. I had to do final sanding and varnishing. There is a ton of work, time, and craftmanship that goes into a bamboo blank! The guy that made the blank, his finished rods run about a grand+. Most finished rods run 800 to 2Gs... Id love to build one from scratch but it takes a few specialized tools. There is a week long class down in the Catskills that runs 2 grand and you end up with a finished rod. Maybe if I win the Lottery...  ;D
Buying a decent rod and refinishing it is a great option also. Sometimes they can be found at garage sales ect or the net is flooded with rods in the few hundred dollar range...

Here is a brief video from the tv show How it's Made that show basically how a bamboo is made, neat stuff!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0QXMWcW6J0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0QXMWcW6J0)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 12, 2013, 09:54 AM
A number of years ago, the Rochester Museum and Science Center had a series on the craft of Bamboo Rod building. There were exhibitions showing the tools and machinery used from hand made to automated. It was fascinating to say the least. Bamboo is an amazing natural material.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on May 12, 2013, 10:01 AM
RG - now sure if you watched the vid I posted but they use modern machines for some of the process... Cant imagin hand planing 6 strips to get the right action.  :unsure:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on May 12, 2013, 05:33 PM
Nice jobs on the rods rg and dc.Nothing can match the feel of a good bamboo rod.The graphite rods in my pbotos are Sage blanks that I bought and built in 1992/1993.they have held up great for20 years. Other than some rod repairs, i havn't built any rods for 20 years...kinda miss it a little, so i will check out some recent generation blanks, and build a few if i find some i like.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 13, 2013, 02:50 AM
RG - now sure if you watched the vid I posted but they use modern machines for some of the process... Cant imagin hand planing 6 strips to get the right action.  :unsure:
They had several complete shops set up at the museum. The hand builders had adjustable jigs and fixtures to accommodate different tapers. Most of the fine work was done with a sort of cabinet scraper and a fine eye. What impressed me was their ability to sharpen tools to stand up to an abrasive material like bamboo.

If you think about how cabinet makers developed planes for forming moldings by hand, it's easy to understand the hand tools that would have been made to cut bamboo. Those old craftsmen were were as much metal smiths as wood workers. The wrapping contraptions used to wrap the glued blank were pretty amazing too.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 14, 2013, 05:29 PM
Thanks,
KP, I'll let you have it for the day when I come up. The first three bamboo rods I restored were destroyed in a basement flood along with all of my fly tying stuff at the time. I lost interest for many years after that, I think I was grieving.

Then this Old Fart With A Flyrod called Trapper or something, managed to rekindle the flame. All I can say is Thanks!

Oh...and YOU COST ME A LOT OF MONEY Ya old buzzard! ;D

RG
'ol Trap kinda wears on ya Huh!! In a great way! ;) Great guy!

As much as I would love to fish with that rod  Bob....I'm going to let you handle it...I have bad luck at times.... Thanks for offering! ;)

Great job DC on the 'Ol Boo!! ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 14, 2013, 05:44 PM
It's just a fish pole KP.  You'll be fine.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on May 14, 2013, 07:17 PM
By the way...Where is Trapper lately? I havn't seen him post on any thread for  quite awhile now...Hope all is well with ya Trap.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 15, 2013, 12:55 AM
Probably on a fishin' mission. ;D
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 15, 2013, 04:42 PM
It's just a fish pole KP.  You'll be fine.

RG
O.K......if You insist!! ;) ;D

Probably a huge push of rockbass and white perch in a body of water somewhere! Looks as though 'Ol Trap needed a fix!! ;D ;D--KP 8)

Trap, Check in from time to time You 'Ol Buzzard!! :P
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 15, 2013, 05:21 PM
Apple blossoms = Rock Bass. Trap's stockin' up.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 15, 2013, 07:07 PM
Apple blossoms = Rock Bass. Trap's stockin' up.

RG
;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 16, 2013, 08:56 AM
OK  a little help ,here in IN the flyfishing is basicly for sunnys, gills. And to a small group smallies , so i guess my ? is  the weight of fly rods can some one explain them ? i believe my currant rod  is a 5 weight i plan on using it mostly for smallies. But as it is the the only one i have now i will also have to use it for gills .
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: perch-hound on May 16, 2013, 09:40 AM
they range from 2 weight to 12 weight, 12 being the heaviest.
A 5wt is fine for smallies, and gils. Your line should be matched to the rod, ie: a 5 wt rod should run a 5wt line, (+ or -) a line wt.
Some rods are stiff, some are soft for their respective weight rating, hence the (+ or -)  a line wt.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: perch-hound on May 16, 2013, 09:45 AM
they range from 2 weight to 12 weight, 12 being the heaviest.
A 5wt is fine for smallies, and gils. Your line should be matched to the rod, ie: a 5 wt rod should run a 5wt line, (+ or -) a line wt.
Some rods are stiff, some are soft for their respective weight rating, hence the (+ or -)  a line wt.

You should feel the rod load up on the back/fore cast. Too light a line and it will feel like a broom stick with a piece of kite string,
to heavy a line will max load the rod at the very beginning of the back/fore cast. It should begin to max out toward the end of each power stoke.
No expert like some, but seems to be what I find.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 16, 2013, 01:21 PM
Thanks for the info , what fish would you be fishing for with a 2 or 3 wt rod? i used my 5 wt for cutthrout and rainbow  and whitefish when i lived in CO ,Utah.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on May 16, 2013, 02:01 PM
I use my 3 wt. for stream trout from small streams (like oatka, Eastcoy ,Wiscoy and Clear Creek in Arcade) to bigger rivers like the Delaware system and the Genesee.It is a real challenge if trout get over 20 inches but fun nonetheless. The 5 WT. is also used under the same circumstance. After starting and fishing the 5 wt. for 10 years plus I decided to go smaller to the 3Wt. and seldom go back.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: joshjj2010 on May 16, 2013, 02:12 PM
A 2 -3 weight is generally used for panfish and stream fishing. I've always used a 5_6 weight for overall fishing. Browns bows stellies etc. My general thought is the weight of the rod should fit the size of the fish you are targeting and the body of water you are fishing. I like light tackle fishing so I use the 6 weight for carp and salmon.  And other guys would use a 9 weight.That's how I prefer to fish. But it dnt hurt to have an extra set up
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 16, 2013, 03:04 PM
Here's my advice;
The quality of the rod coupled with a properly matched line will trump rod weight every time. I have a pretty good collection of fly rods. In smaller streams say 40 yards wide, I use my 3wt for everything from gills to carp. Bigger streams, rivers or the lake, I'll grab a 5wt. 95% of the time I use one of these 2 rod weights.

I have a bunch of others that I use, but that's just my obsession.

If you're looking for a good 3wt, I highly recommend  Temple Fork Outfitters Finesse. I love mine. You don't have to sell your children into slavery to buy one either.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 16, 2013, 08:11 PM
Thanks josh and rg and the rest of you guys i've learned more about flyfishing in the last week then i've taugh myself in 45 yrs!  My back is responding to theapy so i am hopefull i will be fishing soon.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: joshjj2010 on May 16, 2013, 10:03 PM
Anything to help out a fellow fisherman. I know I had some trouble when I first started fly fishing. As well as many questions. Its confuseing at first but you'll get the hang of it. Now if only I could teach my girl friend how to fly fish. Lol. Hey if u get serious into fly fishing check out the hardy rods and reels. They're pricey but worth it. Lifetime warrenty. There's a straight dealer in camilus who told me about them. Good luck
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 17, 2013, 01:30 AM
Hope you heal up and get on the water. Nothing will teach you more about fly fishing than doing it ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 17, 2013, 09:14 AM
Ok time for more rookie ? attaching leader to fly line ,i use to use the little barbed things that you pushed into your flyline ,but the last few times (If i remember right) i couldn't get the dam thing to go in. Any idea about knots or any other deviece that i can use to attact the lines. THANKS FOR ALL THE ADVICE THAT YOU'VE GIVEN ME SO FAR !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 17, 2013, 05:17 PM
Here you go bud!!http://www.scientificanglers.com/plan-your-trip/fly-fishing-instruction/knot-tying-basics (http://www.scientificanglers.com/plan-your-trip/fly-fishing-instruction/knot-tying-basics) Have fun!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 17, 2013, 05:41 PM
A nail knot will work just fine. If you want to smooth it out get some Loon UV Knot Sense. Just a dab and hit it with the UV light and you'll have a nice smooth knot.

I use Cortland lines for the most part. They do not have welded loops so I create my own. I form a small loop and whip finish it in place with Kevlar thread. Then I coat it with Loon UV Head Cement. Works great for attaching my furled leaders.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on May 17, 2013, 10:22 PM
I was taught, and always have, "nail knotted" my way down my leader to my final tippet size. I've seen pics of your furled leaders, RG, and I think they're really cool. After reading this, I understand more that you attach them to your fly line loop to loop. I have to wonder, and ask, doesn't the whip finished loop in the fly line make a heavier splash point and interrupt the "roll" to the fly? Maybe I'm an idiot, IDK, but I could see a more perfect presentation if the furled leader were nail knotted to the fly line.....just an 'ol dog trying to learn. Thanks...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 18, 2013, 05:18 AM
The loop is small and is virtually seamless using the furled leaders. The taper of the Furled leader can be matched to the fly line and, in my opinion, far surpasses either tied or full tapered mono leaders in performance. Matching a floating or sinking furled butt section to the fly line is kind of like having a fly line that tapers all the way to the tippet. I spent countless hours creating hand tied leaders over the years. I'll never do that again.

Order up a couple. They're available on line. Better yet, make your own. It's not terribly difficult. Once you're set up, you can make a lifetime's worth in a few sessions. The options are limitless. Best of all, they work :thumbup_smilie:.

I can do a thread on making them if y'all would like it. I need to make a few anyway.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 18, 2013, 11:27 PM
Ok , living in IN the no trout state(Except for one week a year ) i would like to know what a furled leader is ? Heck even out west i just used a piece of 4 lb test just a bit shorter then my rod with floating fly line and as the streams i was fishing  were shallow (1ft to 4 ft ) i used wet flys and caught bow's and cutthrouts dayly ,enough to feed  my boss and myself lunch .The rainbows were in the 15 to 20 in range , the cut's were in the 12 to 14 inch size. I now have to believe it was a unbelieveable streak of beginners luck !! Stil it is some thing i will always remember from my past and driving me to flyfish again !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 19, 2013, 12:20 AM
O ya thanks KP for the link that did help alot. As a new member of the old farts club i have ? LOL do i get stuck on 68 posts forever? i've  been on that number for atleast 7 posts ! I was just wondering LOL OR is it because i'm am a old fart.    Ok now they have changed to 69 lol
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 19, 2013, 03:56 AM
Furled leader...Google it.

Anyway, here's a couple of mine.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/5-7-2012/DSC00385.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/5-7-2012/DSC00385.jpg.html)

A "level" leader comprised of a piece of 4lb is OK in a lot of situations. A tapered leader will help you present a fly better without slapping the line down on the water as a level leader tends to do. Tapered leaders are just that. Tapered from the heavier butt section to the tip. There's thousands of ways to achieve this taper. One piece tapered mono leaders come in more sizes and weights than any sane fly fisher can handle. One can also tie successively smaller diameter tippet materials together to form a taper. There are books and books of hand tied leader formulas.

Mono leaders work very well, but as you tie on fly after fly, you continually shorten the leader and need to tie on a tippet of appropriate weight and stiffness for the fly you're using. A big ole' pike fly wants a shorter, stiffer leader to turn it over. A #20 dry wants a long, light tippet to gently waft it to the surface imitating a falling gnat.

Having the butt section (the part that attaches to the fly line) come close to the same stiffness as the tip of the fly line helps create a loop without a kinked spot where leader meets line. This rolls the fly line/leader/fly in a well formed loop and lays it down on the water gently. It also help you cast more consistently by forming a better loop in the air. It eliminates the "Tourist Tangles" we all experience from time to time. Personally, I need all the help I can get :-\

 So, "What's a Furled Leader?" It's a butt section made from either thread or mono. It's furled much the same way manilla rope is made....with a hitch. 2 lengths of thread are laid out on a jig so that when they are twisted together they taper from end to end. The tip may be comprised of only 6 strands, the mid section 12 and the butt may have 22 strands. The sections are interwoven and the leader is knotless. A tiny ring or loop can be used to attach a short piece of tippet material to the leader. The leader is usually attached to the fly line with a loop to loop connection.

What are the advantages?
They last for years. The one I had on yesterday is 3 seasons old and shows no signs of wear at all.
They can be made to fit any fly line weight.
They roll a fly over with ease.
They last for years (wait....I already said that)
You need only tie on a short piece of tippet to adjust to different fly weights
The float very well, with a coat of payette paste
They sink very well without floatant (mono furled sink like a rock for nymphing)
Mono leaders will handle the biggest flies with ease and act as a shock absorber under heavy pressure.
And......They last for years!

I'm gonna get my jig out and make up a few. I have an idea for a camouflage tip furled leader with a high vis butt section.  I'll do a thread (pun intended)

"A mind is a terrible thing!"

RG

P.S.
No, I don't sell them.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 19, 2013, 08:20 AM
RG thanks , thank you for your knowledge and your pantance with my rookie ? with all the time you spend answering my ? i feel like we have become friends or at least you are becoming a memtor to me, hope that doesn't bother you ! Here i can buy tappered leaders which will work fine . I am going to be tarrgeting smallies so i think tappered ones will do fine. I don't have a pc so my crappy  3 G phone is my only link to you guys. I don't think i can even get google lol . So peace an luck in all your endavers .
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 19, 2013, 08:31 AM
And that go's to the rest of you guys that have helped me to !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 19, 2013, 10:55 AM
Happy to help. That's what "Old Farts" are supposed to do.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on May 19, 2013, 04:00 PM
They had several complete shops set up at the museum. The hand builders had adjustable jigs and fixtures to accommodate different tapers. Most of the fine work was done with a sort of cabinet scraper and a fine eye. What impressed me was their ability to sharpen tools to stand up to an abrasive material like bamboo.

If you think about how cabinet makers developed planes for forming moldings by hand, it's easy to understand the hand tools that would have been made to cut bamboo. Those old craftsmen were were as much metal smiths as wood workers. The wrapping contraptions used to wrap the glued blank were pretty amazing too.

RG
Those cane rodbuilders were definately master craftsmen...to think they wer able to do that stuff 100 years ago is amazing. Here are a couple other bamboo rods I have. Abercrombie and Fitch"  "Yellowstone" 10 ft. twin tips  And a real dark "Granger" "Special" 7 1/2 ft. Original tube, and original condition. Not nearly as old as the A&F .I got them both about 35 years ago and the "Yellowstone"was really old back then. I had it re-finished by a neighbor , and good fishing friend of mine, the late Bob Selser of "Selser Rod Co." in about 1980.He checked back then and I remember him saying it was made for A&F by a master rod builder pre 1930 or 20..might have been Payne.? I will have to check that out someday.Original wooden , notched out rod tube and sack.(http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu226/choo-choo-steve/20130514_105853.jpg)[/URL

Granger "Special"
[URL=http://s650.photobucket.com/user/choo-choo-steve/media/20130514_110854.jpg.html](http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu226/choo-choo-steve/20130514_110854.jpg) (http://s650.photobucket.com/user/choo-choo-steve/media/20130514_105853.jpg.html)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 19, 2013, 07:27 PM
O ya thanks KP for the link that did help alot. As a new member of the old farts club i have ? LOL do i get stuck on 68 posts forever? i've  been on that number for atleast 7 posts ! I was just wondering LOL OR is it because i'm am a old fart.    Ok now they have changed to 69 lol
Anytime Bud!! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 20, 2013, 02:07 AM
Each year I run through my fly rod collection. Taking a different rod out each trip. I've had my 2wt, 3wt and one of my 5wts out. I think it's time for the "Boo".

I was out both days over the weekend. My backyard stream is heating up. Saturday was much better with a good mix of bass, rock bass and sunnies all colored up for spawning. And, 1 unidentified, submarine shaped, fly stealing fishapotomus. 3X tippet just wasn't enough to turn him around.

I twisted up my first 72" furled leader yesterday. I'm trying to get some pictures of the operation. I was a little rusty and made one setup mistake, but I managed to salvage the leader.

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on May 20, 2013, 05:20 AM
Each year I run through my fly rod collection. Taking a different rod out each trip. I've had my 2wt, 3wt and one of my 5wts out. I think it's time for the "Boo".

I was out both days over the weekend. My backyard stream is heating up. Saturday was much better with a good mix of bass, rock bass and sunnies all colored up for spawning. And, 1 unidentified, submarine shaped, fly stealing fishapotomus. 3X tippet just wasn't enough to turn him around.

I twisted up my first 72" furled leader yesterday. I'm trying to get some pictures of the operation. I was a little rusty and made one setup mistake, but I managed to salvage the leader.

RGNice lookin' leaders RG. I 've never tried one..but I did use a store made braided butt leader quite a few years ago. I don't remember why I stopped using it...but I might have to try one of your style furled leader sometime. Good luck with your "Boo" RG...hope you have lots of takers next time out.


Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gremlin on May 20, 2013, 02:58 PM
 RG, when you say "level" leader do still mean furled leader or just a straight piece of 4 Lb. mono? Thanks
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 20, 2013, 04:02 PM
I can't answer for RG but i think he was ,that was what i was using out west 35 yrs ago and i brought the subject up. Just a 4 lb piece of mono. OOPS that is 4 lb test mono.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 20, 2013, 04:35 PM
Yup... by a "level leader" I meant just a hunk of mono.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 20, 2013, 07:44 PM
Ok another ? do you guy's think a 1/32 oz jlg with a small tail would work like a streamer or nymph ? i will be using  my 5 wt rod with floating line on a stream that is no deeper than 4 or 5 ft at it's deepest. The ? is how long of a leader would  you use ? and  would the jig even work?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on May 20, 2013, 07:48 PM
Ok another ? do you guy's think a 1/32 oz jlg with a small tail would work like a streamer or nymph ? i will be using  my 5 wt rod with floating line on a stream that is no deeper than 4 or 5 ft at it's deepest. The ? is how long of a leader would  you use ? and  would the jig even work?

It will work like a champ! Casting distance may be lessened but not too bad. Any heavier on a 5wt and she wont cast well...
I'd probably be using a 7-9ft leader... You could either fish it "clean" or add a small float/strike indicator2-4 ft above the fly...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on May 20, 2013, 07:51 PM
Nice Boo Steve!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 20, 2013, 08:34 PM
Each year I run through my fly rod collection. Taking a different rod out each trip. I've had my 2wt, 3wt and one of my 5wts out. I think it's time for the "Boo".

I was out both days over the weekend. My backyard stream is heating up. Saturday was much better with a good mix of bass, rock bass and sunnies all colored up for spawning. And, 1 unidentified, submarine shaped, fly stealing fishapotomus. 3X tippet just wasn't enough to turn him around.

I twisted up my first 72" furled leader yesterday. I'm trying to get some pictures of the operation. I was a little rusty and made one setup mistake, but I managed to salvage the leader.

RG


WOW you said rock bass and  no response from Trap he must be lost or really be in the boonies. LOL
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 21, 2013, 11:35 PM
OK time for another lesson for me , this time the ? is on the fly line it self . Aren't there different types of floating flylines ,seems like in my youth i used a cortland level line. On my new rod ( which 15 yrs old and still never been used, it's a cabelas setup) i think i put a shooting head line on it (Floating). Is there such a line and did i make a mistake doing that ? for some reason my gut is telling me to change  the line back ! i again need your wisdom and advice !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 22, 2013, 02:27 AM
The answer is yes, there is such a line.

That said, if the fly line industry develops one more taper for a fly line, they'll run out of names for it.

Here's my simplistic philosophy; I use Cortland 444 Classic line 90% of the time. They make a quality line at a fair price. On my faster, stiffer rods I use a double taper floating line. On my slower softer rods, I use a weight forward floating line. I switch back and forth depending on conditions. If I'm on a tight stream and will tend to do more roll casting and spot casting, I'll take the DT. If it's windy or I have room oi flail away, I'll take the WF.

Do I have others? Yes! But, those lines are specific use lines for specific rods.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 22, 2013, 08:07 AM
Thanks RG it's  the DT line that i have , the streams here in my part of IN are pertty much open i can only think of one small stream that is closed up. So i think  i need to change  my line , maybe just get another reel to go with it , if i can find a reasonablly priced one. Again RG thanks for all that knowledge that you have passed on to me an the other rookies!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on May 22, 2013, 02:40 PM
A cortland rep came to our TU meeting and gave us a nice lecture on fly lines and the different types, how they were made and their uses. They even made a line for bamboo rods! I tned to stay with the Cortland 444 myself WT  forward for bith my 3 and 5 wt. rods.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 22, 2013, 04:40 PM
For the most part, reels just hold the line. No need to go nutz with a reel. You can, if you like...I certainly have on more than one occasion, but the line is the more important element.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 22, 2013, 04:56 PM
Thanks  all since i am on a very limited income i may have to just go with the line, unless i can find my old automatic reel , it should still work . Lol now just locating it, that should be fun !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 22, 2013, 05:48 PM
My nephew just informed me that his buddies grandfather passed away and they are selling his fishing equip. What i need to know is what to look for in a used fly rod and reel ? i have  no idea what they are but the old gentleman was known to use top of the line equipment !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on May 22, 2013, 06:32 PM
buy all of it ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on May 22, 2013, 06:51 PM
buy all of it ;)
X2  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 22, 2013, 07:11 PM
Still need  to know what to look for esp. On the rod , are there weak points , where the rod joins together(Can't remember what it is called) so on ?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 22, 2013, 07:27 PM
Still need  to know what to look for esp. On the rod , are there weak points , where the rod joins together(Can't remember what it is called) so on ?
Again...BUY ALL OF IT!!! ;D Then the fun begins.....!! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on May 22, 2013, 07:35 PM
sometimes people think they have "good stuff" and it is junk... but unless the prices seem crazy, buy everything!
Without seeing of hearing exactly whats there, its hard to say. Look for obvious signs of abuse and broken,,,
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 22, 2013, 09:00 PM
I get it and i agree DC  around  here a wonder rod with a auto reel may have been top line stuff LOL
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 23, 2013, 03:38 AM
i  just  got  back  from my  fishing  trip  and  was  met with a  package!  black 55  paints  the best  jigs  i  have ever seen!  great work  and  thank you  very  very much!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 23, 2013, 05:45 AM
i  just  got  back  from my  fishing  trip  and  was  met with a  package!  black 55  paints  the best  jigs  i  have ever seen!  great work  and  thank you  very  very much!
We were wondering if the rockbass were holding you for ransom bud!! ;D Good to see you back!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 23, 2013, 09:02 AM
Wecome back trap, better watch it these old fa-ts are going to make you answer all my rookie ?'s About flyfishing poor old RG's fingers are sore from typing LOL  my go to one is the green and gold , smallies love em ! Glad u liked them.Hmm wonder what some would look like with buck tail or some such thing on them?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: perch-hound on May 23, 2013, 09:40 AM
Let's post a pic of them B55 bomber jigs please.. :-\
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 23, 2013, 09:54 AM
I wish i could but my crappy 3 g phone will not let me may be trapper will do it if i ask nicely? LOL Pertty please trap will u take a pic of the jigs.                                    PS I don't sell them
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 23, 2013, 10:31 AM
This maybe my last yr for making jigs the painting part is the hard part , between cleaning the raw jigs with a file, and 3 coats of paint my hands are starting to shake pertty bad, then with my back the sitting for hrs  is getting very tough to do.I plan on trying to make as many as possable !! my goal is 2000 . That should last me a very long time and have a few for my friends !!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 23, 2013, 10:44 AM
OK trap spill the beans  how did you do ,what did you catch ? any bragging type fish ,we need details! LOL
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 23, 2013, 01:21 PM
Ok here is the scoop the rod is a martin reel company , model 3016E 8 FT line wt 6/7. Reel is pflufger medalist (Made in USA) #1492 ok that is all the info what do you guys think?  i think it is fiberglass and it seems very limber.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 23, 2013, 03:09 PM
The Martin is an old Fiberglas. Not that it's a bad thing. I love my glass rods. They're soft and very forgiving.

The reel is another classic. I have one in the collection. 3rd from the right, second row up.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/9-22-20121/DSC00717_zpsd2a72186.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/9-22-20121/DSC00717_zpsd2a72186.jpg.html)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 23, 2013, 03:30 PM
RG that look like it , the one i have is alot more beat up but it seems to work fine . On the rod one eye is bent but i think it's easyly fixable. Is that reel a tad small for that rod ? (6/7 wt ) i remember you saying the reel is just for line storage.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 23, 2013, 04:07 PM
 What is the deal with the (6/7) dual wt on the rod ? what wt line would you use on it? the martin is or atleast seems to be a much better rod then my old presidential wonderod #FY~A510~7 ft 9 in.                             E~ D~ H  i think the e~d ~h is line size. I think it is a 5 wt but not sure? do you know?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 23, 2013, 05:23 PM
OYE!

Many older rods are classed as 4/5, 6/7 etc. As for the line types, your reference is to silk line weights.

Here's a conversion chart.
Silk Line Ratings to Modern Fly Line Equivalent

AFTMAFly Line Weight                              3      4      5      6      7       8      9     10        11          12

DoubleTaper Fly Line                                   IGI    HFH    HEH    HDH    HCH    GBG    GAG    GAAG   GAAAG   GAAAAG

WeightForward Fly Line                           IGH    HFG    HEG    HDG    HCG     GBF     GAF     GAAF   GAAAF    GAAAAF

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 23, 2013, 05:33 PM
Thanks RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 23, 2013, 05:57 PM
The chart didn't quite copy correctly, but you get the idea.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on May 24, 2013, 07:47 AM
Martin, made in Mohawk?  I know where that old building is....  Awesome collection RG...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 24, 2013, 08:11 AM
Now that is cool wonder what yr ? and that ? wasn't  for you RG  LOL. The more i play around  with it the more i like the feel of it. Still not sure what wt or type of line i'm to put on it. Think 7 wt forward wil match up well to it. And it is a sweet collection !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 24, 2013, 08:24 AM
Hey guys if u want to have some fun and have a spare fly rod put a ultralight spinning reel on it go use it, i did it it works great !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 28, 2013, 12:19 AM
Bump this thread should b read by all rookie flyfishermen and flytyers  and anyone that needs a smile on there face !! i'm up to page 50 . It has lots of info and at the same time very funny !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 28, 2013, 03:59 PM
This Jr. 'Ol Fart took KP Jr. out yesterday for 1/2 day...man, that's what serenity sounds like!!  :) Hey Bob, went to the smallmouth hole we fished with you at! Lot's of fish and no takers...went to the bridge as well....low water...lot's of fish...no takers...Oh well...who cares! Time well spent. ;) The smallmouth hole end of that river has opened up considerably....the area has changed quite a bit!! Hope to be able to take you to the new area of water I have come across this year!! Life Is Good!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 28, 2013, 05:28 PM
I think the smallies in that hole are too well fed. They're immune to anything artificial >:(

We're getting a good dose of rain. The backyard stream is going to heat up quick. I gotta get my project done and get after those carps.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 28, 2013, 05:59 PM
Go have fun!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 28, 2013, 10:02 PM
RG how big do the carp in your stream get? bet there a blast on a fly rod !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 29, 2013, 01:59 AM
15-20lbs tops Lots of smaller ones 5lbs and up. They're a challenge for sure.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on May 29, 2013, 06:49 AM
The Martin is an old Fiberglas. Not that it's a bad thing. I love my glass rods. They're soft and very forgiving.

The reel is another classic. I have one in the collection. 3rd from the right, second row up.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/9-22-20121/DSC00717_zpsd2a72186.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/9-22-20121/DSC00717_zpsd2a72186.jpg.html)

RG

Beautiful old fly reels rg...I found my old Ocean City, which was my first ever fly reel , I bought it and my fenwick glass fly rod together back in '67 which i had mentioned a few weeks back.Used it on my first bamboo too, a few years later.and for many years there after. It is still in perfect working order...a real workhorse for 7 bucks or so!!
(http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu226/choo-choo-steve/20130525_100043.jpg) (http://s650.photobucket.com/user/choo-choo-steve/media/20130525_100043.jpg.html)
(http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu226/choo-choo-steve/20130525_100425.jpg) (http://s650.photobucket.com/user/choo-choo-steve/media/20130525_100425.jpg.html)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 29, 2013, 09:06 PM
Nice looking reels , the old ones seem to last forever !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 30, 2013, 05:34 AM
this  old  fart finally  has  time  to  dig out  the  fly  rod and  go after  some  panfish!   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on May 30, 2013, 05:39 AM
Nice looking reels , the old ones seem to last forever !
You got that right black55...made with good materials that could stand up to years of use and abuse for not a ton of money!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on May 30, 2013, 05:41 AM
this  old  fart finally  has  time  to  dig out  the  fly  rod and  go after  some  panfish!   ;D
Hey Trap...good to see ya back in action!!Go get 'em!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 30, 2013, 06:48 AM
Choo are you talking about the reels or Trap LOL
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 31, 2013, 08:23 AM
Just saw NY's weather report ,sounds like today would be a great day to be on some shady stream fly fishing for your fav target fish ! !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on May 31, 2013, 08:32 PM
Just saw NY's weather report ,sounds like today would be a great day to be on some shady stream fly fishing for your fav target fish ! !
Yeah, if only the streams here weren't still swollen like the March thaw from last weekend's 5+" of rain!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on May 31, 2013, 08:45 PM
Strange LOL It's happening here now ! !  was going fishing today but it stormed last nite and starting to storm again tonite ! just my luck .
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on May 31, 2013, 08:55 PM
I skipped my Thursday evening "trout fish" because the rivers are just too high and brown. Watching the forecasts and judging the water levels, I'm thinking I need to fish Sunday morning before the next round of deluge kills another week. Crazy weather! Snow last Saturday, 92 today!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 01, 2013, 01:27 AM
My backyard creek is waaaay up and mud brown. All the quick, hard rain washes the soil from the newly planted fields this time of year and turns it to chocolate milk. I was hoping to toss some flies and  collect some crayfish for bait, but, out of the question.

I'll improvise ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Jun 05, 2013, 08:47 PM
I wait all year for this time of year.  Pounded the gills & sunnies today with my 3 wt.  Pictures tomorrow.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 06, 2013, 01:45 AM
Looks like I'm in the boat again this weekend. A forecast of 2" of rain in the next 2 days  >:(.

 Oh well, I've gotta work Saturday morning and I'm taking with some of the guys from work to a  Red Wings game in the afternoon.  Anyway, the boat's working great ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Jun 06, 2013, 06:39 AM
Photos include my wife's big SM she caught on a 1/80 oz jig.
(http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m486/sandwick50/FlyrodGill_zps222a26bc.jpg) (http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/sandwick50/media/FlyrodGill_zps222a26bc.jpg.html)
(http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m486/sandwick50/BigGill_zps7d5a0bf9.jpg) (http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/sandwick50/media/BigGill_zps7d5a0bf9.jpg.html)
(http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m486/sandwick50/LaurasSM_zpse6e28156.jpg) (http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/sandwick50/media/LaurasSM_zpse6e28156.jpg.html)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 06, 2013, 10:01 AM
RG you a redwings fan dang an i like the  blackhawks , we can still be friends ? LOL Have fun at the game.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 06, 2013, 12:56 PM
(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae145/KingPerch/IMAG0197-2.jpg)][URL=http://s966.photobucket.com/user/KingPerch/media/IMAG0197-2.jpg.html][IMG] KP Jr. making his way down one of his favorite streams!  before rain!--KP 8)
 (http://[URL=http://s966.photobucket.com/user/KingPerch/media/IMAG0197-2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Jun 06, 2013, 01:26 PM
(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae145/KingPerch/IMAG0197-2.jpg)][URL=http://s966.photobucket.com/user/KingPerch/media/IMAG0197-2.jpg.html][IMG] KP Jr. making his way down one of his favorite streams!  before rain!--KP 8)

 (http://[URL=http://s966.photobucket.com/user/KingPerch/media/IMAG0197-2.jpg.html)
Nice Picture KP!! (JR...no wading ripples allowed!! ;)Pretty spot KP ;) ;)!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 06, 2013, 02:23 PM
Tough keeping him out of the water!!  :whistling: It's all good! ;)--KP 8)

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 06, 2013, 02:28 PM
(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae145/KingPerch/IMAG0202-2.jpg)][URL=http://s966.photobucket.com/user/KingPerch/media/IMAG0202-2.jpg.html] (http://[URL=http://s966.photobucket.com/user/KingPerch/media/IMAG0202-2.jpg.html) A little further downstream!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jun 06, 2013, 03:35 PM
nice looking stream KP 8) is there any fish in it ::) ::) ::) ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 06, 2013, 03:44 PM
Pretty sure I know where that is ;D

Nice pics Larry!

Bob
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 06, 2013, 03:46 PM
Pretty sure I know where that is ;D

Nice pics Larry!

Bob
;)

HT.... :P    Only if you use a flyrod!! ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 06, 2013, 03:49 PM
Where on earth is TRAPPER??--KP :-\
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 06, 2013, 05:53 PM
KP i've been reading this thread starting at #1 and now i'm at #93 and i wish i had a dollar or a trapper fly for every time that ? was asked ! ! LOL You know he is prob. fishing some faverite and unknown spot that he forgot to tell anyone about ! LOL
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Jun 06, 2013, 06:09 PM
Tough keeping him out of the water!!  :whistling: It's all good! ;)--KP 8)


I hear ya KP...Been through it with my jr too...They're like young pup's some time !! It's all good for sure...they grow up so quick...fun times!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 07, 2013, 06:49 AM
Trapper is a great 'Ol Fart!! He has these missions (fishing) that he goes on from time to time. I swear he gets so involved in his fishing that he actually forgets the basics at times. Like the time...day.....week....maybe even what year it is!! :laugh: trap, you 'ol buzzard...save some fish for the rest of us!!! LOL!! Life is good!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 09, 2013, 12:30 AM
Went flyfishing today for the first time in 30 yrs or more and i am proud to say i didn't get skunked ! I found some cheap (Made in china) dry flies an decided to hit the river , in 2 hrs or so i caught 1 sunny ( then nothing ) dang flies sank like a rock. So i changed to a1/48 oz  jig with smallest tail i had , fished it as a streamer. With it on i caught a 10 inch smallie , and 2 sheepsheads ( drum) 1 was real small and the other was around 2 lbs. I do have a ? to ask ,what do you guys use as a fly dressing ? Those cheap flies are horrible  ! !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jun 09, 2013, 10:45 AM
I dont fish alot of dries but I do like to fish wets and emergers in or near the surface film...
Any "fine" dry fly or something tied with cdc I use a powder like Froggs Fanny. For my wets and emergers I like a paste you kind of rub into them. The one im currently using is made by Cortland...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 09, 2013, 12:13 PM
DC in this area finding anything related to flyfishing is like finding hens teeth , so i pulled out the cabela's and i find nothing ! ! i think there may be a place 70 or so miles from here , but with the gas prices so high will have to wait untill the  first of july to go . Seems like i read some where on this thread that RG or Trapper used some house hold item on there flies ?  And the BIG ? is where is TRAPPER LOL
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jun 09, 2013, 07:33 PM
DC in this area finding anything related to flyfishing is like finding hens teeth , so i pulled out the cabela's and i find nothing ! ! i think there may be a place 70 or so miles from here , but with the gas prices so high will have to wait untill the  first of july to go . Seems like i read some where on this thread that RG or Trapper used some house hold item on there flies ?  And the BIG ? is where is TRAPPER LOL

If you go on Cabelas web-site and click on flyfishing then accessories then "floatants & weights", you will find a pile of options  8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jun 09, 2013, 09:43 PM
For a floatant  I like the Gehrke's gink floatant; one drop rubbed into the dry fly and on the tippet and the leader gives you a nice dry floater fly that gets'm.I fish al0t with dry flies .
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 10, 2013, 12:50 AM
Thanks guys i did manage to order a fly fishing catalog from cabelas today that should help !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 10, 2013, 04:16 AM
black i  just  got  finished  with  my  deck and  ramp  ...i'll  send ya some  goodies   ;D

what  fishing  time  i  have  had i  spent  down to the  river chasing  gills a  few  bass and  one  old rubber nose  ;D the  score  board  isn't  high this  year  but  a lot of  nice  fish .....  foam is  my  friend  mixed  with  nymphs  ....hope  to  get  the  kayak out  later  today  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 10, 2013, 03:59 PM
ALIVE!

IT'S ALIVE!!!

(http://clicktoenlarge.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/its-alive.jpg)


 ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 10, 2013, 04:31 PM
 :rotflol: :rotflol:


Welcome back Trap!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 11, 2013, 08:51 AM
Got another rookie ? for you guys ,  will a 5 wt line work on a 6/7 wt rod ?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 11, 2013, 05:34 PM
Got another rookie ? for you guys ,  will a 5 wt line work on a 6/7 wt rod ?
I'm going to let RG comment on this question... ;) I don't see why not...just, don't have the proper answer for you!! Never tried it! Somebody on here awhile ago stated that a heavier line will work on a lighter rod....again...just speculation.--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jun 11, 2013, 07:59 PM
Got another rookie ? for you guys ,  will a 5 wt line work on a 6/7 wt rod ?

It should "work"...
Will depend on the action of the rod and the caster but it will work - probably just not optimum for distance. Most guys find that going one line heavier will cast better, especially with one of todays newer "fast" rods. Someone who hasnt done alot of casting probably wouldnt even notice, lol...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 12, 2013, 01:49 AM
There's volumes written about line weights and rod lengths and rod tapers and rod flex.........try it and see if you like the way it feels. No one can tell you how it feels to you.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jun 13, 2013, 02:59 PM
Well this old fart went out to the creek yesterday despite the high water and stained to boot and fisked dries! Got hits on a blk. EH caddis but caught the browns(2) on a  p-red ant. Only idiot out there. And it's raining again! WOW!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 13, 2013, 03:04 PM
Thanks guys esp. RG and Trap and DC ! You guys are the most knowlegdable people i know when it comes to flyfishing and most willing to share that wisdom with rookies ! i think i can speak for all us newbes with a BIG THANKS
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 13, 2013, 05:06 PM
As I traveled around NY today....Rochester to Waterville to Cortland to Macedon...I watched the streams go from swollen to mud brown and flooded. Man...It RAINED!

The area south of Rome over to Cortland must have gotten 2 to 3 inches.

Well, That's why I refurbished the boat ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 13, 2013, 06:49 PM
It's nice to have a alternative plan to get on the water , are the ponds or lakes fishable with a fly rod with that much rain ?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Jun 13, 2013, 07:08 PM
Fish have to eat...... If nothing else, head for the head waters. :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 14, 2013, 01:30 AM
Fish have to eat...... If nothing else, head for the head waters. :)
You'll never know if you don't go ;D
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 14, 2013, 02:23 PM
well  .....i  for  one  have  a  plan!    filling  the  bag  now  ...some  stp  frogs  a  few  poppers   clousers  ....  yak on  jeep  net  fish  basket  oh  and  a  clean water  small lake!  simple  rule  if  the  water  is  brown  the  fish  will  be  down!  ....... 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 14, 2013, 10:07 PM
just wondering  with  the  17 year  cicadas  due  on the east  coast this  year  if anyone has seen them  ?  central  ny is  out  till  2018  but  parts  of  downstate and western ny  should  be seeing them
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 14, 2013, 11:09 PM
well  .....i  for  one  have  a  plan!    filling  the  bag  now  ...some  stp  frogs  a  few  poppers   clousers  ....  yak on  jeep  net  fish  basket  oh  and  a  clean water  small lake!  simple  rule  if  the  water  is  brown  the  fish  will  be  down!  .......  Trap that rule makes since and i will remember it. LOL
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 14, 2013, 11:29 PM
well  .....i  for  one  have  a  plan!    filling  the  bag  now  ...some  stp  frogs  a  few  poppers   clousers  ....  yak on  jeep  net  fish  basket  oh  and  a  clean water  small lake!  simple  rule  if  the  water  is  brown  the  fish  will  be  down!  .......  
ok i know what a popper or what they call a popper here but what is a clouser?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 15, 2013, 01:46 AM
Clouser Minnow (http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/intermediate/part43.php)

Learn this fly. I never fish without it.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Jun 15, 2013, 06:37 AM
rg....what do you use for eyes, bead chain or something else? 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 15, 2013, 06:58 AM
Thanks RG i saved that link ! and i now know what a clouser minnow is ! i can see why u alway have them with you !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jun 15, 2013, 07:44 AM
rg....what do you use for eyes, bead chain or something else? 

I ties them a few diff ways...
Tied up with no eyes or weight and stripped just under the surface is killer on bass(and fall eyes ::)) The slow fall on the pause drives em nuts!
Then I do some with some meduim weight lead barbell type weights...
And finally some with a heavy cone type head and a lead wrapped body...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 15, 2013, 10:01 AM
have  to  tell  you  all  about  a  great  morning!  i'm  on  lake Neatahwanta in fulton  paddling  the  kayak ..not  another  boat on it!!!!  unbelievable  initself   so i  get  2  bass  on  a  stp  frog  water  is  algia  green  and   high  i  seen  a  carp  sucking   off the  top  from the  yak a  perfect  cast and  he isn't  scared  !  he  sucks  the  fly  ...wooooo  hoooooo  rubber nose  on!  i  get him to  the yak  and  i  release  him   what  a  day  i'm ready  for  coffee  ...  now  i  seen  the  pair  before  but  as  i  started  to  paddle  back  across  the  lake  i look up  and  theres  a  bald  eagle  ...what  a  sight   ;D  i  had  to  say  a  thank you  to  God   as  i  paddled  back  to  the  jeep  ....  ya  know  LIFE  IS  GOOD!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: drowndin dots on Jun 15, 2013, 11:00 AM



    That's great Trapp  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 15, 2013, 11:43 AM
rg....what do you use for eyes, bead chain or something else? 
Lead, bead chain, glass, tungsten whatever you like.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 15, 2013, 05:57 PM
Here's what I had in my boat today. There's a few clousers there.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/6-15-20131/DSC01125_zps42604d2b.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/6-15-20131/DSC01125_zps42604d2b.jpg.html)

A bunch actually.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 15, 2013, 06:24 PM
Hey Bob, You keep the fly drier in that can right??? ;D--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 16, 2013, 01:24 AM
Not "Fly Drier"......."Whistle Wetter"  ;D

After posting that I was thinking...almost all of my after fishing or boat project pictures are ads for Heineken. You'll notice though, there's never a Heineken in my fishing pictures. I either have a beer or fish.....never both at the same time.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 16, 2013, 10:05 AM
Bob are  you saying  you  can't  multi task????? ;D

KP  we should  hit  salmon river  for  bronze  trout with the  fly rods!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: drowndin dots on Jun 16, 2013, 11:43 AM
Bob are  you saying  you  can't  multi task????? ;D

KP  we should  hit  salmon river  for  bronze  trout with the  fly rods!
I want in on some of that action Trapp !!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 16, 2013, 02:59 PM
Bob are  you saying  you  can't  multi task????? ;D

KP  we should  hit  salmon river  for  bronze  trout with the  fly rods!

Nah Trap..It's one or the other.

Bronze Trout.....Fly Rod...... :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:

Went out with the boat really early this morning...really early. O dark 30 .   Got 5 nice smallies on brown and white clousers. Switched to #6 red wigglers and nailed a couple more of those funny bass with teeth and the white tipped tail. Then I tossed some more flies around some stuff and added a few good crappies to the stringer. Great morning. Done by 7:30.

Came home, cleaned fish, went carpin' on the canal. 1 for 5 :-\. Gotta improve my technique.

RG

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 16, 2013, 04:54 PM
carp are  the hardest challenge  for  me ,  but they are fun  ;D thats  one  you  taught me bob ....^5  thanks  ugly  fish are  fun too

dot  we all have  to  get together  for  some  fishing advantour  ....   SR  IS  A  BLAST  WHEN NO ONES AROUND !!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 16, 2013, 05:00 PM
Trap. I had one on that ran like a freight train to the East. Couldn't turn it at all I finally had to stop and break it off.  It got way away from me, 100 yards or so. My mistake. You gotta get control early.

Anyway, it's fun hearing the reel scream ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 16, 2013, 10:30 PM
How much backing do you put on your fly reels RG ,Trap ?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 17, 2013, 01:50 PM
seroisly  dacron  that i  have  left over  from my  tip ups ..... i  think  20  pound

back out  in the  yak  today  ,little  breezy   worked a  clouser  for  some  really nice  looking weeds  ,  sun was  out  , just a  nice  day  to  fish paddle and sip  coffee ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 17, 2013, 03:20 PM
Not "Fly Drier"......."Whistle Wetter"  ;D

After posting that I was thinking...almost all of my after fishing or boat project pictures are ads for Heineken. You'll notice though, there's never a Heineken in my fishing pictures. I either have a beer or fish.....never both at the same time.

RG
;) Same here...fish.....then beer..on an occasion!! ;D

Trap and RG, Jr. and I know where some smallies just may be hiding.. ;) I'll give you a call....You too EDDIE!! ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jun 17, 2013, 03:23 PM
How much backing do you put on your fly reels RG ,Trap ?

No real exact science or amount... when backing and fly line are on, I want the reel full.  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 17, 2013, 03:30 PM
I was gonna say that!

I use orange braided something or other off Ebay. It's cheap enough that I can put too much on to start and then take off what I want till it's just full enough. You'll know if you've got too much.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 17, 2013, 11:33 PM
 8)  Trapper are you really a old hippie ? did you go to woodstock , or should i ask ,do you remember going to woodstock ? LOL Remember don't eat the brown acid !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Jun 18, 2013, 05:42 AM
Thanks RG i saved that link ! and i now know what a clouser minnow is ! i can see why u alway have them with you !
Hi black55...clousers are a top fly anywhere...fresh water or salt water.  They sink real fast and get down to the fish's level quick...and the dumbbells look like eyes and jigging action they create in the water, drives the fish nuts! It is  basically a hair jig  .But as I see you are just getting back into fly fishing, be real careful casting one on windy days especially, until your casting gets real smooth again. I've seen several guys get a tailing loop, or a wind gust on the back cast and that clouser fly can hit your rod and nick it....then  the rod breaks when you hook a fish. My son did it once when we were chasing albacore, re-directing in mid cast, and i've done it a couple times...but they are the best fly to use somedays so it is worth it! So tie some up..but be careful casting one, especially on windy days!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 18, 2013, 08:54 AM
Choo your right about just getting started , i'm still working on my casting , as far as tying flies i am not sure if i will be able to ! i have the after affects of  carpal tunnel which just means my hands shake when i try to do things like write , paint jigs , and tie knots.                   PS That is why i am making and painting as many jigs as i can for me and friends!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 18, 2013, 09:27 AM
I am lucky the streams and rivers here are  fairly open , getting snagged on rocks will be my problem ! lol when i try to swim a streamer past a rock . 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 18, 2013, 03:08 PM
well  i  had a  fun  morning  , i  was  out  in  my  flyfishing  super  bassmaster  pro  fishing  vessal    sitting  in  the sit  of  luxary and  comfort !!!

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Photo-0160_zpsb1fe7396.jpg) (http://s579.photobucket.com/user/trapper2000/media/Photo-0160_zpsb1fe7396.jpg.html)


i  then  met  a new  friend  who appeared a  bit  scared .... after  watching  him  for awhile  he disappeared  then i  seen  4 little  ones swiming away   ;D

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/downsized_Image061820130926281_zps4c84088c.jpg) (http://s579.photobucket.com/user/trapper2000/media/downsized_Image061820130926281_zps4c84088c.jpg.html)

as  far  as what i  caught  dinner  is  bluegills   i  also  got  1  bas  17 incher  large mouth  and  a  ling  ....  sorry i  used a spinning  rod  today ....i  feel so ashamed
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 18, 2013, 03:38 PM
Good to see you on the water Bud!! That duckling pic was cool. However....is that green braid your using?? :rotflol: :rotflol: Life is good!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 18, 2013, 03:57 PM
Trap it's ok everyone slips once in a while ! LOL HEY you never answered my ? but if  you don't want to talk about your past , lol if i was 2 or 3 yrs older i would probably been there . I think i was in mich on my first out of state fishing trip , hmm maybe that was my parents plan ..
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 18, 2013, 03:59 PM
Good to see you on the water Bud!! That duckling pic was cool. However....is that green braid your using?? :rotflol: :rotflol: Life is good!!--KP 8)

berkley  solar  .....  KP  that  picture  was  in  pheonix  where  we  all  went  perch  fishing  ......  was  fun  thinking  of   catfishing  tonight 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 18, 2013, 04:02 PM
i  believe  in  peace  threw  superior  firepower   and  if  ya  lift  my  pony tail  up you'd  see  my  neck  is  reder  then  most   ;D....more  a  biker  libertairian  type
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 18, 2013, 04:38 PM
Cool Trap LOL i was a long hair biker untill i got old and decrepit, still got the bike .probably never get rid of it . It's a 84 FL custom .
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 18, 2013, 04:51 PM
can i have  it  ?

 :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Jun 18, 2013, 05:10 PM
well  i  had a  fun  morning  , i  was  out  in  my  flyfishing  super  bassmaster  pro  fishing  vessal    sitting  in  the sit  of  luxary and  comfort !!!

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Photo-0160_zpsb1fe7396.jpg) (http://s579.photobucket.com/user/trapper2000/media/Photo-0160_zpsb1fe7396.jpg.html)


i  then  met  a new  friend  who appeared a  bit  scared .... after  watching  him  for awhile  he disappeared  then i  seen  4 little  ones swiming away   ;D

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/downsized_Image061820130926281_zps4c84088c.jpg) (http://s579.photobucket.com/user/trapper2000/media/downsized_Image061820130926281_zps4c84088c.jpg.html)

as  far  as what i  caught  dinner  is  bluegills   i  also  got  1  bas  17 incher  large mouth  and  a  ling  ....  sorry i  used a spinning  rod  today ....i  feel so ashamed
I love that kayak rig trap...i've wanted to get one for quite awhile, but never have.......maybe someday soon. They look like fun..but not around motor boat areas !!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 18, 2013, 05:14 PM
Holy cow Trapper....did you buy an actual camera?

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Jun 18, 2013, 05:29 PM
Choo your right about just getting started , i'm still working on my casting , as far as tying flies i am not sure if i will be able to ! i have the after affects of  carpal tunnel which just means my hands shake when i try to do things like write , paint jigs , and tie knots.                   PS That is why i am making and painting as many jigs as i can for me and friends!
Sorry about the carpal tunnel black...I had a buddy who's hands shook and he had trouble tying hooks and fly's on his leaders streamside, in any weather. So i convinced him to pre-tie some flies on a short looped end tippet at home, and pin them on a small  piece of foam pipe insulation. The end of his leader had a loop too. So if he lost a fly ,or wanted to change a fly streamside,he would just have to snip off the  old or unwanted tippet, and unfurl a new pre tied fly from the foam, and loop the two together. No Knots to tie on the stream at all...simple to do ..even in the wind. I do it for cold weather steel head fishing when my hands are cold,or in low light,(my eyes are getting bad) I have pre tied tippets and flies and now tippets and  pinned beads and hook... all pre tied and ready to go and can make a change in just a few seconds...even in the cold and wind!! Give it a try.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 18, 2013, 08:02 PM
can i have  it  ?

 :rotflol:
  LOL I would bet that you would have to fight my nephew over it ! i told him that i was going to be buried with it ! !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Jun 18, 2013, 08:12 PM
Very cool Trapper. ....... Fly rod, baitcaster, spinning rig, cane pole, if you're fooling fish, NEVER be ashamed!!! LOL.  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 18, 2013, 08:32 PM
DC or some one else , can some one explain the loop to loop connection ? i know that it is a very rookie ? but living in a area that has virtually no fly fishing history in the last 30 yr.Heck in the 3 closest towns to me i couldn't even find a tappered leader ! LOL I've whine enough . Got my cabala's catalog been studying it. That and the link on fly tieing that  RG sent me. 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jun 18, 2013, 08:48 PM
go to the web site; animatedknots.com   you will find the perfection fishermans loop and the surgeons loop as examples of loop -to-loop ties. I use them for tying my leader to my fly line.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jun 18, 2013, 08:55 PM
Some fly lines have a loop built in some guys add them them loop thier leader. You can pick the loops apart...
Heres a video on it...
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AoO_TyroSBO9BYKG8v3bbuqbvZx4?fr=yfp-t-654-s&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&p=loop%20to%20loop%20connection%20knot (http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AoO_TyroSBO9BYKG8v3bbuqbvZx4?fr=yfp-t-654-s&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&p=loop%20to%20loop%20connection%20knot)

Im more of nail knot guy but know the loop knot for if I drop/loose my knot tool... Alot easier to tie a loop than to nail knot without a tool...
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=Agc2K5vNLajxkADbTk.424SbvZx4?p=nail+knot+tool&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-654 (http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=Agc2K5vNLajxkADbTk.424SbvZx4?p=nail+knot+tool&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-654)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 18, 2013, 09:09 PM
rg  those  were  both  taken with my  cell phone

black  on  my  fly line  i  use  those  slip on  loops  then  the  shrink  wrap  sorry  forgot  there  names   only  thing  i  do is add a  drop of  super glue  .... on my  leader  i  just  tie a  leader  loop  .......

oh and  i'm not  ashamed   really  i like  the  spinning  rod  too .....  i  enjoy it all 

 life  is  good  man   
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 19, 2013, 12:45 AM
Trap i don't see anything to be ashamed of at all heck i use my spinning rod 95% of the time.(Still gathering fly gear and high/Muddy streams) besides i know you have  jigs to try out ,are they catching any fish ?  Wonder how they would work with hair or what ever they put on jigs besides plastic tails ? O well like you say "life  is good "
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 19, 2013, 02:02 AM
I went carpin' for a couple of hours after work yesterday. Trying some Euro style rigs with lead core leader and pop up hair rigs. As usual....I have a bunch of euro style components ordered ::) Baiting and tying needles, coated leader, baits and stuff. I'm going to master some rigs and then adapt them to the fly rod.

I was also thinking that I might adapt my furled leaders to a hair rig.....A mind is a terrible thing!

There's a 10', 10wt bamboo in my collection that I'd like to use. It was gifted to me by a breakfast buddy. His Granddad used it for salmon on the Miramichi River. I'm told he rebuilt the rod shortly before passing. Don't know how he'd feel about me using it for carp, but I'm thinking he'd rather see it fished than in a closet.

I have a perfect reel for it in my collection . A nice old South Bend.

Streams are still way up and muddy so I may as well play with something else. Just one more style of fishing to enjoy, added to my repertoire. Besides, I love catching carp ;D

I may need KP and crew to build me an addition if this addiction continues.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 19, 2013, 04:42 AM
KP  will  be busy  fishing  for  bronze trout  once  schools  out i'm sure!  ....  rg  post  some  links and  pics so  we  can follow  what you  come  up with!  the  river  in pheonix droped  a  foot while i  fished it  yesterday!  so it's  coming  down .... i'll  be  chasing  gills  there  again  ;D......ps  i  seen a  lovely  young  lady  fishing on the  faster side  in a  kayak  ..... please  wear a  life  jacket!!!!!  that river  is still very very  dangerous  right now!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Jun 19, 2013, 04:59 AM
I went carpin' for a couple of hours after work yesterday. Trying some Euro style rigs with lead core leader and pop up hair rigs. As usual....I have a bunch of euro style components ordered ::) Baiting and tying needles, coated leader, baits and stuff. I'm going to master some rigs and then adapt them to the fly rod.

I was also thinking that I might adapt my furled leaders to a hair rig.....A mind is a terrible thing!

There's a 10', 10wt bamboo in my collection that I'd like to use. It was gifted to me by a breakfast buddy. His Granddad used it for salmon on the Miramichi River. I'm told he rebuilt the rod shortly before passing. Don't know how he'd feel about me using it for carp, but I'm thinking he'd rather see it fished than in a closet.

I have a perfect reel for it in my collection . A nice old South Bend.

Streams are still way up and muddy so I may as well play with something else. Just one more style of fishing to enjoy, added to my repertoire. Besides, I love catching carp ;D

I may need KP and crew to build me an addition if this addiction continues.

RG
Have fun with those carp on the bamboo rod rg. I saw them thrashing around in the shallows coming in to the ramp sunday morning...might have to give them a try sometime.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Jun 19, 2013, 05:15 AM
DC or some one else , can some one explain the loop to loop connection ? i know that it is a very rookie ? but living in a area that has virtually no fly fishing history in the last 30 yr.Heck in the 3 closest towns to me i couldn't even find a tappered leader ! LOL I've whine enough . Got my cabala's catalog been studying it. That and the link on fly tieing that  RG sent me.  
Black55..The nail knot.. or loops are both good for the butt end of the leader(fly line connection)..I was talking about the tip end of your leader. The fine end of your store bought tapered leaders need to be replaced with new tippet material ,from losing or changing flies etc.. You can make a perfection loop on the end of the cut back leader...then keep adding small 8" to 12" or so of the pre tied looped end tippet sections,that have your fly already tied on at home. Streamside, you only need to loop the tippet loop to the leader loop and your new fly is on with no knots to tie with your shaky hands on the stream.Hope this helps.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Jun 19, 2013, 05:23 AM
KP  will  be busy  fishing  for  bronze trout  once  schools  out i'm sure!  ....  rg  post  some  links and  pics so  we  can follow  what you  come  up with!  the  river  in pheonix droped  a  foot while i  fished it  yesterday!  so it's  coming  down .... i'll  be  chasing  gills  there  again  ;D......ps  i  seen a  lovely  young  lady  fishing on the  faster side  in a  kayak  ..... please  wear a  life  jacket!!!!!  that river  is still very very  dangerous  right now!
Hey Trap...good luck with the blue gills and sunnies. When you get your freezer filled,isaw a sign in a bait shop where they are buying them larger sunfish for $1.40 each now. Perch are getting $1.25 each. You could have a fish fry with some and a "free" 30 pack with some..and some gas money too!LOL.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 19, 2013, 05:55 AM
Choo that sounds like a good system  to me , once you have the loops tied everything else is easy to handle . Now i even understand RG's furled leaders better! ! lol yes RG there were ?'s  that i hadn't asked yet . LOL I may be a little slow on picking up concepts , but i do get them eventually. Now if i could just spell. LOL
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 19, 2013, 08:43 AM
TRAP how stable is your YAK ? And is there much of a back rest on it ?                                                 KP  what are they doing  with  the sunnys and perch ? sunnys are my go to catfish bait !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 19, 2013, 11:53 AM
Hey Trap...good luck with the blue gills and sunnies. When you get your freezer filled,isaw a sign in a bait shop where they are buying them larger sunfish for $1.40 each now. Perch are getting $1.25 each. You could have a fish fry with some and a "free" 30 pack with some..and some gas money too!LOL.

oh  gee  you mean  i  can sell  panfish  ????? ;D wish  i  had  thought  of  this  before  ......

  black i  have  3  kayaks  all  are  alot  more  stable  then  a  canoe  ,,,  all have  seats  with  back  rest  and  are   rather  comfortable  to   be  in  ...takes  a  bit  of  getting  use  to  casting  so low  to  the  water  but other  then  that  i love  them ,  easy  to  take  when i'm  alone
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 20, 2013, 01:58 AM
Wound up a 72" fluorocarbon furled leader last evening to use as a sinking shock leader for the carp rig. Not sure I'm happy with it. It doesn't stretch as much as I would like. I'll probably do one with 4lb green stren. I think I'll get a bit more stretch with that.

I decided to test everything with my 9' 9wt Lamiglas rod before trying the "Boo". I built it many years ago for pike and bass and I know it will handle a big fish. I have a nice Pfleuger 1495A in the collection. I put an 8wt sink tip on it. The furled leaders made from mono sink nicely and I'm hoping that with the lead core/hair rig it won't require any additional weight for use in the canal. For carp I feel the less weight they feel on the line, the better.

I have a spool of 12 lb lead core which may be adequate, but I'm going to pick up a spool of 30lb to try as well. I'm using #6 Matzuo Sickle hooks. They seem a good choice as a modified circle hook and have a wider gape. I'll post some pics of the rigs tonight.

I bought some 3/16 steel rod yesterday to fabricate my rod holders. Store bought seem overpriced and over built.

Hoping for a reasonably short work day today. I'm itching to give it a go.

Choo Choo, I meant to tell you, I love the Tin Man in the tree :clapping:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 20, 2013, 05:36 AM
hey if anyone  has a  old  lamiglass  9  wt  blank  they  want to  get rid off  contact  me!    great salt water  blank  right there! 

rg  sounds  like  you'll be  having  fun!  water  in the canal system  here is  dropping fast  and  i  think  things will be  back to normal  soon, i think  the  dropping  may  have  turned the fish off but it  should  be short  lived ....the  water is  much  cleaner  and i seen alot of  boats  go threw the  locks  yesterday ....still be  careful  it's still high  and  still has  alot of  logs  floating around
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Jun 20, 2013, 06:22 AM
Wound up a 72" fluorocarbon furled leader last evening to use as a sinking shock leader for the carp rig. Not sure I'm happy with it. It doesn't stretch as much as I would like. I'll probably do one with 4lb green stren. I think I'll get a bit more stretch with that.

I decided to test everything with my 9' 9wt Lamiglas rod before trying the "Boo". I built it many years ago for pike and bass and I know it will handle a big fish. I have a nice Pfleuger 1495A in the collection. I put an 8wt sink tip on it. The furled leaders made from mono sink nicely and I'm hoping that with the lead core/hair rig it won't require any additional weight for use in the canal. For carp I feel the less weight they feel on the line, the better.

I have a spool of 12 lb lead core which may be adequate, but I'm going to pick up a spool of 30lb to try as well. I'm using #6 Matzuo Sickle hooks. They seem a good choice as a modified circle hook and have a wider gape. I'll post some pics of the rigs tonight.

I bought some 3/16 steel rod yesterday to fabricate my rod holders. Store bought seem overpriced and over built.

Hoping for a reasonably short work day today. I'm itching to give it a go.

Choo Choo, I meant to tell you, I love the Tin Man in the tree :clapping:

RG
That tin man is on my campground neighbors site and he's made out of tomatoe sauce and paste cans ,soup cans etc. and funnel .His wife Mary took the bad cell phone picture...but I will tell him you like his tin man!
Looking forward to seeing your rod holders when finished.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Jun 20, 2013, 08:07 AM
Wound up a 72" fluorocarbon furled leader last evening to use as a sinking shock leader for the carp rig. Not sure I'm happy with it. It doesn't stretch as much as I would like. I'll probably do one with 4lb green stren. I think I'll get a bit more stretch with that.

I decided to test everything with my 9' 9wt Lamiglas rod before trying the "Boo". I built it many years ago for pike and bass and I know it will handle a big fish. I have a nice Pfleuger 1495A in the collection. I put an 8wt sink tip on it. The furled leaders made from mono sink nicely and I'm hoping that with the lead core/hair rig it won't require any additional weight for use in the canal. For carp I feel the less weight they feel on the line, the better.

I have a spool of 12 lb lead core which may be adequate, but I'm going to pick up a spool of 30lb to try as well. I'm using #6 Matzuo Sickle hooks. They seem a good choice as a modified circle hook and have a wider gape. I'll post some pics of the rigs tonight.

I bought some 3/16 steel rod yesterday to fabricate my rod holders. Store bought seem overpriced and over built.

Hoping for a reasonably short work day today. I'm itching to give it a go.

Choo Choo, I meant to tell you, I love the Tin Man in the tree :clapping:

RG
RG..before you buy another spool of lead core,some fly shops have this knotable sinking lead type coated wire,that makes terrific sink tips or shooting heads. It comes on a big spool and you can buy it by the foot.Reasonably priced.There are different diameters,and they go by their sink rates. The start at like 2" inches per second...4" ips...6"ips...10"inches per second. Spey fisherman use it a lot instead of split shot on the leaders. Sinks  through the water nice and Slides over the bottom nice and doesn't  spin,dig,or get hung up like split shot does. I bought some of it ,with different sink rates at Malindas Fly Shop in Altmar NY.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 20, 2013, 02:48 PM
berkley  solar  .....  KP  that  picture  was  in  pheonix  where  we  all  went  perch  fishing  ......  was  fun  thinking  of   catfishing  tonight 
I kinda figured that's where you were...Iv'e been there so many times...I know what the gravel along the shoreline looks like. ;) ;D

Just wanted to make sure you weren't using braid!! ;D

Yes, the bronzebacks are now in trouble. ;)..Jr. and my daughter have finished the school year!! Both finished up passing with flying colors I might add!! Very proud of both of them!! Jr. has officially entered the work world, working with Dad!! ;)


Life is good!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 20, 2013, 02:53 PM
I went carpin' for a couple of hours after work yesterday. Trying some Euro style rigs with lead core leader and pop up hair rigs. As usual....I have a bunch of euro style components ordered ::) Baiting and tying needles, coated leader, baits and stuff. I'm going to master some rigs and then adapt them to the fly rod.

I was also thinking that I might adapt my furled leaders to a hair rig.....A mind is a terrible thing!

There's a 10', 10wt bamboo in my collection that I'd like to use. It was gifted to me by a breakfast buddy. His Granddad used it for salmon on the Miramichi River. I'm told he rebuilt the rod shortly before passing. Don't know how he'd feel about me using it for carp, but I'm thinking he'd rather see it fished than in a closet.

I have a perfect reel for it in my collection . A nice old South Bend.

Streams are still way up and muddy so I may as well play with something else. Just one more style of fishing to enjoy, added to my repertoire. Besides, I love catching carp ;D

I may need KP and crew to build me an addition if this addiction continues.

RG
Free foam bugs and flies....will travel...I'm game!! and, of course, some of that venison sausage with the Old Farts at breakfast!! ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 20, 2013, 02:57 PM
TRAP how stable is your YAK ? And is there much of a back rest on it ?                                                 KP  what are they doing  with  the sunnys and perch ? sunnys are my go to catfish bait !
Fishing for them...and....eating them, of course!! ;D--KP 8)

I saw two guys pounding them sunnies and bluegills today. Man, is it tough to work 50' from the water and the flyrod is home..... :-\
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jun 20, 2013, 03:01 PM
Well guess which furture flyfishers birthday is today?
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/jayvassil/046_zps5df3e33e.jpg)
Wow does a year go by freakin fast!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 20, 2013, 03:05 PM
A YEAR?....ALREADY??? Wow, does time fly!! Two beautiful kids there Jay!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY to the both of them!! Good stuff bud!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 20, 2013, 03:30 PM
Well guess which furture flyfishers birthday is today?
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/jayvassil/046_zps5df3e33e.jpg)
Wow does a year go by freakin fast!

  DC Happy BIRTHDAY to your twins they were born on a great day, which just happens to be my birthday to ! ! just 58 yrs earlier ! !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 20, 2013, 03:53 PM
Fishing for them...and....eating them, of course!! ;D--KP 8)

I saw two guys pounding them sunnies and bluegills today. Man, is it tough to work 50' from the water and the flyrod is home..... :-\
Sorry KP i was asking choo about the bait shop that was buying sunnys and perch  , i don't think it would be legal to sell or buy them .
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: hunts2long on Jun 20, 2013, 04:49 PM
Good looking kids. Looks like the one on the left is going to be a "hippie". Peace sign already....hunts2long
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bart on Jun 20, 2013, 04:59 PM
Cute as a button, Happy Birthday! And a congratulations out to the proud parents!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 20, 2013, 04:59 PM
 DC Happy BIRTHDAY to your twins they were born on a great day, which just happens to be my birthday to ! ! just 58 yrs earlier ! !
All good black55..some baitshops can buy and sell!!  ;)  Happy B-lated Birthday bud!! ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 20, 2013, 05:35 PM
happy  birthday  to  the  little  flyfisherman  and  to mr  black   :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Jun 20, 2013, 06:17 PM
Happy Birthday Twins !!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 21, 2013, 06:14 PM
Happy Birthday kids!

Choo Choo,
To tell the truth, I found a spool of 200 yds ,12lb for 9 bucks. The 30 lb was 11 bucks. About 2 lifetime supplies I figure  ::).

I got my box of goodies yesterday. Never even opened it till tonight. I went off to the stream instead. Caught my first smallmouth on my 2 wt. I'm really happy with that build. It requires a light hand though. Always been a problem for me.

My tennis coach was constantly on my case about my over gripping the racquet. He had a name tag made for me. "Grippus Maximus". Made me wear it every class and match. Even now...many years later, when I find I'm talking to myself on the stream and saying"Lighten up!", I smile and think of Greg. Who knew it would help my tennis, golf and even fly casting.

Casting, the golf swing, the tennis stroke even swinging a hammer all have a common element. They require a relaxed motion. It's amazing how the fly cast eases tension. The lightness of the hand, the softness and cadence of the stroke, the relaxed stance....it promotes serenity. That is until you lose your 6th fly to the same tree branch which is just slightly out of reach and now holds your complete fly selection for the particular stream as well as 20' of leader.

At this point it's useless to expect serenity.......BREAK OUT THE CHAIN SAW!

But I digress :-\

RG

Thanks Greg!

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 21, 2013, 07:00 PM
RG ; Tennis is my fav sport untill my back gave out on me, use to play 4 or 5 days a week, still have hopes of playing again some day.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 21, 2013, 11:45 PM
Had a minor victory today , i mastered the perfection loop knot today on 4 lb clear mono ! Thanks to all you guys for the links and help ! !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 22, 2013, 01:35 AM
I was the facilities director at an upscale tennis and athletic club for a few years. I loved tennis and had the entire coaching staff  and an incredible facility at my fingertips. Too bad the company was awful to work for. I might still be there.

Have to spend some time at my Grandson's soccer tourney this morning, then  it's off to the carp waters to test out some stuff :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 22, 2013, 09:05 AM
RG i was never was that good , never could make the team , i was a heavy weight wrestler in high school and college. But my brother played at a college at Taylor Univ, did u play at the college level? If so where at and when ? my bro was just wondering.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: EasternCentralNY21 on Jun 22, 2013, 09:38 AM
I just started fly fishing, The first time I picked up my rod I sucked..... but I fished with it for a week straight and I got pretty good at just getting it to where I want it. The few fish that actually hit my fly I pulled it right out of there mouth.. But I went golfing one day after fishing and shot 2 over par for the first time! ......I think having to finess the rod so much made me lighten up on my grip and swing my club a bit more fluidly!!!! I work at kingswood golf course in hudson falls but I don't play often and I can hardly make under 100 most days,  but on my days off if I go fly fishing and after I go golfing I always shoot better!!!! maybe it has to do with the stretching or getting relaxed  ... almost meditating .... then with a clear mind going to shoot a round.

I love golf and fishing and at kingswood I could do both fishing on a golf course then do some night putting haha there are a couple of ponds that got stocked a long time ago with sunnies and bass lotta weeds but there are some big ones!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 22, 2013, 01:20 PM
been  fly  fishing  nearly 50  years  and  still suck 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 22, 2013, 01:30 PM
been  fly  fishing  nearly 50  years  and  still suck 
  Trap i find it very hard to believe  that you suck at anything that you put your mind to ! ! LOL
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 22, 2013, 02:01 PM
I went to watch my Grandson Colin play soccer this morning. He had an assist with a great pass for a goal. Later he scored the winning goal.

Since then I've been getting my carpin' stuff together. I've got the rod holders made and the fly rod all set up. Made a couple of rigs and I'm getting ready to make up some boilies. It'll be my first attempt. Should be messy and lots of fun ;D I've been watching you tube videos for the last week. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to the mix as long as it ends up the consistency of play dough. Many of the more expensive brands contain nyger seeds and some form of soy protein. I'll probably go through all of this and end up tossing a worm at them.

Keep practicing Trap....that's the fun part ;D
 

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 22, 2013, 03:50 PM
RG  when  i  was  a  kid  we  half  boiled potatos  for  them  ....  not  sure  if  that  info  helps  but  you  never  know  ;D

i'm  begining  to  think  carp  are  the  biggest  challenge   for  the  fly  rod.  they  weary  big  and  very  selective  as  to  what  they  eat 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jun 22, 2013, 04:04 PM
RG when you make your dough add some wheaties to it .when i go carp fishing my go to bait is wheaties with just enough water to make a dough .carp love them! !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 22, 2013, 04:30 PM
My luck in the streams has come in a few different ways. If you can find a feeding pod you have a very good chance at a couple of hook ups sight fishing. One thing though, if you spook 1 fish....you're done. They seem to like anything that mimics a small crayfish. A little puff of silt in front of them from a fly hitting bottom will get their interest.

On other occasions I have blind cast to them and gotten lucky. Then there's the slam, bang, rip line off the spool and gone kind of hits. Out of nowhere one will grab a fly for no apparent reason and head for the next county.

The boilies came out OK :clapping:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/boilies/DSC01147_zpsbef48896.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/boilies/DSC01147_zpsbef48896.jpg.html)

dry stuff
1 1/2 c   King Arthur unbleached bread flour
1 1/2 c corn meal flour
1/4 c dried buttermilk
1/2 c niger seed
2 tbs soy protein

1 batch had 2 tbsp jello. Strawberry.


wet stuff
1 egg
1 tbsp dark molasses
1 tsp vanilla


Mix dry and wet in separate bowls. Add dry to wet till it is like play dough. Roll out into a 3/4" roll. cut into pieces and roll into balls. Drop into boiling water for 1 - 3 minutes. The longer it cooks the harder it will end up. We'll see if it works tomorrow ;D

My little soccer star after scoring the winner :clapping: :clapping:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/boilies/colinswinner_zps42695b5d.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/boilies/colinswinner_zps42695b5d.jpg.html)

RG


Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jun 22, 2013, 06:13 PM
wow RG that kid is growing up fast :o 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 23, 2013, 01:11 AM
Don't they all HT?

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 23, 2013, 05:25 AM
river  is  back  to normal  ;D getting  coffee  ,kayak  is  loaded  ,time  to  head   down  to  the  river   with  some   frogs  and  clousers  for  some  bass  action .....   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 23, 2013, 12:26 PM
Went 2 for 5 with the carp this morning. It was lots of fun. But.....people started showing up and I bailed. Around 9:30 I went home and collected the fly rod and my vest. Off to the stream :clapping:

Not a lot of action but managed one nice smallmouth and a few others. Picked up some crayfish for bait. Had a great time in the cool waters of my favorite stream.

ECNY 21,
I remembered something this morning on the stream. I switch rods quite often for my stream trips. Today I took my old faithful Pfleuger President. It's a 5wt, 9', IM6 rod. It casts like a dream...most days. I had a case of the "Quicks" today. Too quick back...to quick forward. All because I was over casting. I started to talk to myself. "What the hell is going on?" I says to myself! " Shorten your stroke dumbass!"., I answered back.

Cured!

Same as golf. When things start going awry....shorten the stroke.

RG

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 23, 2013, 03:08 PM
My luck in the streams has come in a few different ways. If you can find a feeding pod you have a very good chance at a couple of hook ups sight fishing. One thing though, if you spook 1 fish....you're done. They seem to like anything that mimics a small crayfish. A little puff of silt in front of them from a fly hitting bottom will get their interest.

On other occasions I have blind cast to them and gotten lucky. Then there's the slam, bang, rip line off the spool and gone kind of hits. Out of nowhere one will grab a fly for no apparent reason and head for the next county.

The boilies came out OK :clapping:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/boilies/DSC01147_zpsbef48896.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/boilies/DSC01147_zpsbef48896.jpg.html)

dry stuff
1 1/2 c   King Arthur unbleached bread flour
1 1/2 c corn meal flour
1/4 c dried buttermilk
1/2 c niger seed
2 tbs soy protein

1 batch had 2 tbsp jello. Strawberry.


wet stuff
1 egg
1 tbsp dark molasses
1 tsp vanilla


Mix dry and wet in separate bowls. Add dry to wet till it is like play dough. Roll out into a 3/4" roll. cut into pieces and roll into balls. Drop into boiling water for 1 - 3 minutes. The longer it cooks the harder it will end up. We'll see if it works tomorrow ;D

My little soccer star after scoring the winner :clapping: :clapping:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/boilies/colinswinner_zps42695b5d.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/boilies/colinswinner_zps42695b5d.jpg.html)

RG



I have witnessed many of them days/games Bob, with Josh and Megan!! ;) Great stuff, thanks for sharing!! Colin is growing up fast my friend!!


Life is Good!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jun 23, 2013, 03:10 PM
Went 2 for 5 with the carp this morning. It was lots of fun. But.....people started showing up and I bailed. Around 9:30 I went home and collected the fly rod and my vest. Off to the stream :clapping:

Not a lot of action but managed one nice smallmouth and a few others. Picked up some crayfish for bait. Had a great time in the cool waters of my favorite stream.

ECNY 21,
I remembered something this morning on the stream. I switch rods quite often for my stream trips. Today I took my old faithful Pfleuger President. It's a 5wt, 9', IM6 rod. It casts like a dream...most days. I had a case of the "Quicks" today. Too quick back...to quick forward. All because I was over casting. I started to talk to myself. "What the hell is going on?" I says to myself! " Shorten your stroke dumbass!"., I answered back.

Cured!

Same as golf. When things start going awry....shorten the stroke.

RG

RG
perfect statement BOB ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 23, 2013, 03:15 PM
you  say  short  and  HT  comes   :rotflol:................... 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 23, 2013, 03:52 PM
you  say  short  and  HT  comes   :rotflol:................... 
:w00t:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jun 23, 2013, 07:40 PM
wow RG that kid is growing up fast :o 8)

That picture of Collins first snowball seems like it was yesterday...

My rug rats had thier first cake this weekend...
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/jayvassil/047_zps81d01ba0.jpg)
It got quite messy!
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/jayvassil/049_zpsa843f536.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 24, 2013, 02:04 AM
I have 1st cake pics of both my kids. They're identical :clapping: :clapping: Cake everywhere. Spaghetti face pics are universal too.

As a sort of Moderator on this site, I'd like to remind our members that we do not discriminate. Please refrain from derogatory comments about the vertically challenged! 

Thank you.
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jun 24, 2013, 03:51 AM
they look like freddie in his ice shanty trying to eat his lunch when a hot school of white perch comes thru ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Jun 24, 2013, 06:59 AM
Nice job on the carp RG..WE used to walk to the bakery, on our way to the carp fishin' hole, when I was a kid. We would ask for .25 or .50 cents worth of dough for doughball bait.Sometimes mom would "cook" us up cornmeal and flour with vanilla extract for cornmeal doughballs..which worked real good. Spinning rod for them. But later when I was a teen, we would catch them on the surface with fly rods with a fly hooked into a piece of bread. The carp were conditioned to gather downstream from where all the people were feeding the ducks in the park...schools of carp would be sucking the floating stale bread pieces right off the surface. We would "match the hatch" by softly casting our dry fly/bread into the feeding carp...and it was a blast!! We talked about tieing up an imitation bread fly...but never did.Fun times!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Jun 24, 2013, 07:10 AM
RG...I told my campground neighbors that you liked their "tin man" in the background of my trout picture last week. They said that they bought it many years a go in Chittenango ny,near ss Onieda lake.The guy who wrote "the Wizard of Oz" is from there...and they still have a "Wizard of Oz"gift shop and parade there...supposed to be yellow brick sidewalks there in town too!! Here is a better pic for you..
(http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu226/choo-choo-steve/20130622_083702.jpg) (http://s650.photobucket.com/user/choo-choo-steve/media/20130622_083702.jpg.html)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 25, 2013, 04:38 PM
That picture of Collins first snowball seems like it was yesterday...

My rug rats had thier first cake this weekend...
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/jayvassil/047_zps81d01ba0.jpg)
It got quite messy!
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/jayvassil/049_zpsa843f536.jpg)

:thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 25, 2013, 04:39 PM
they look like freddie in his ice shanty trying to eat his lunch when a hot school of white perch comes thru ;D ;D ;D
:w00t: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: coachwarner on Jun 25, 2013, 05:13 PM


My rug rats had thier first cake this weekend...

It got quite messy!


:clapping: :clapping: :clapping:  :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 01, 2013, 01:49 AM
I bumped into a fellow fly fishin for carp at the launch yesterday. I've met him before around the area. He was nymphin' with a corn fly and having success. We chatted a bit, shared some fly patterns and laughed about how much fun carp are on the fly. I showed him the furled leader I was using and found he'd never tried one. I took the boat home and returned with a couple for him to try.

It seems fly fishers who chase carp are the most affable of the species.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 01, 2013, 05:19 AM
carp have  only  one  purpose............fun!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: one last cast on Jul 01, 2013, 11:28 AM

It seems fly fishers who chase carp are the most affable of the species.

RG
I don't always chase carp, but when I do I chat with rgfixit! ;D ;D ;D The furled leader's that rg makes are GREAT! I even think they are better than than the blue sky ones i've purchased. I'm sorry I have not been around much life and work always come first. How has everyone been? I hope everyone has been safe and are well with all this flooding going on.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: one last cast on Jul 01, 2013, 09:00 PM
http://youtu.be/IflkFD25nD4 (http://youtu.be/IflkFD25nD4) pretty cool video
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 02, 2013, 01:56 AM
That's a good video. Carp on the surface. What a riot.

Love the underwater drag and the behind the neck landing.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Jul 03, 2013, 04:50 PM
That was cool :thumbup_smilie: Heading to Roscoe this weekend. The wife is taking a flyfishing class at the Orvis shop.I will be on the Beaverkill ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 04, 2013, 01:51 AM
Class at the Orvis shop?

That's gonna cost you. Just wait till she whips out the old credit card for brick-a-back and Orvis wear  :rotflol:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bart on Jul 04, 2013, 07:02 AM
Great video!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Jul 04, 2013, 11:45 AM
Class at the Orvis shop?

That's gonna cost you. Just wait till she whips out the old credit card for brick-a-back and Orvis wear  :rotflol:

RG
Classes are free. I already got her all the gear and clothing she needs. We tie our own flies. I did buy a $40 practice rod . Still not bad.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 04, 2013, 12:01 PM
nice  .....  lots  of  shops  offer  free  casting and  tying  classes and work shops, good  for  you
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 05, 2013, 05:19 PM
Got out early this morning.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/12-31-2009/DSC01189_zpsfbfdba28.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/12-31-2009/DSC01189_zpsfbfdba28.jpg.html)

Had a great day with the fly chaser from the boat. Bass, gills and even a fatso crappie. It hit a clouser. Swam a bit...snoozed a bit...Nice!

I'll be right back at it tomorrow morning. Gonna try for some walleye.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 05, 2013, 06:24 PM
RG :thumbup_smilie:........life  is  good  my  friend
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: one last cast on Jul 05, 2013, 10:15 PM
Got out early this morning.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/12-31-2009/DSC01189_zpsfbfdba28.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/12-31-2009/DSC01189_zpsfbfdba28.jpg.html)

Had a great day with the fly chaser from the boat. Bass, gills and even a fatso crappie. It hit a clouser. Swam a bit...snoozed a bit...Nice!

I'll be right back at it tomorrow morning. Gonna try for some walleye.

RG
Looks like my ride into work for the past three day's with the exception of not being on the water!  :'( enjoy it RG.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jul 05, 2013, 11:36 PM
Go get them RG ! ! sounded like a perfect day on the water !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 06, 2013, 12:29 PM
Went 2 for 3 on walleye this morning. Didn't get a sniff trolling. Had to go to finesse fishing a crawler. #6 octopus hook, barrel swivel no weight. Hook the crawler through the nose and be very patient . Couldn't resist tossing some flies for bass and gills. The "Hoppercator Rig"with a nymph trailer did the trick. Bass were willing to take Clousers in Brown and chartreuse.

Another fun morning....and........tomorrow, I'll still be at it ;D

Love mini vacations :flag: :flag: :flag:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Jul 06, 2013, 12:42 PM
Rg...Have you given previous tying instructions and photos of "The Hoppercator?"  I'm interested in trying one.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 06, 2013, 05:46 PM
No tying instructions, but here's the pics.

Hoppercator (http://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/index.php?topic=41247.msg543628#msg543628)

Just a foam hopper with a loop fore and aft. Any foam bug will work with the added loops.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: USMC130FE on Jul 07, 2013, 12:21 PM
Sorry for the OT !!

Hi Bob, 

Sounds like your doing good!!  Glad to hear!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 07, 2013, 01:01 PM
Hey Steve, you're alive :clapping:

Thought about you last Thursday. Flew your flag for the Fourth. :flag: I put it up Memorial Day, Flag Day and the Fourth of July. Other than that, it's in the safe. I've always appreciated that gesture.

Bob

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 08, 2013, 05:37 PM
Glad to see you went and enjoyed yourself Bob!! You deserve it!!  ;)

Now...off to the bench for some more hoppercators for KP!!! ;D

Life is GOOD!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 10, 2013, 01:59 AM
Glad to see you went and enjoyed yourself Bob!! You deserve it!!  ;)

Now...off to the bench for some more hoppercators for KP!!! ;D

Life is GOOD!!--KP 8)

I agree Larry....I deserve it ;D

I'm working up some new foam fly indicator patterns. Some smaller stuff for the 2wt. "Fun With Foam".

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 10, 2013, 06:58 PM
when I  was a  kid ,we  were  camping  at  moose  river , I  left  the  flybox  and was  in the stream  so  my  brother  found a  cigarette  but  and  we  had  some   hooks  in our  wallets (trick  my  dad   taught us carry  hooks  matches and  band aids  in your wallet) we  put a  hook  in  it  and  ripped the paper off flaired  the  filter  up  for  wings  and we  killed  brookies  and browns ......   
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Jul 10, 2013, 08:23 PM
Got the wife into it now.  :thumbup_smilie:
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj204/wiredstone/P7070239_zps182634d6.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jul 11, 2013, 12:02 AM
 :clapping: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:                             Wirestone that is a good thing untill she starts catches more fish then you do . :whistling:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Jul 11, 2013, 06:47 PM
nice kevin 8) looks like she is trying to read the water in that photo 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Jul 14, 2013, 10:28 AM
She is learning fast. ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 20, 2013, 08:36 PM
Well...I was suffering from "Flyfishingitis" this afternoon...streams around here came up a lot over night with all the storm...so...I grabbed the ole Pfleuger 5wt and went exploring.

Spent a few minutes on Google Earth researching a local stream. Threw my stuff in the little red truck and departed on expedition. I drove in the general direction of a stream I knew about but never fished. Got in the stream and started to chuck some flies. Took about 30 minutes to get a pattern down. Smallmouth and big fallfish were the willing takers.

Is there anything better than picking a piece of water out of the air and then using your fishing experience...hand tied flies and home made leader to actually catch fish?

Priceless I say.

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jul 20, 2013, 08:46 PM
Sounds like a great day  the streams are the same here , just starting  to drop and clear . I have to ask what is a fall fish ?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 21, 2013, 03:31 AM
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSPHhwEm2ohYYiObYgrzRHik4f-KhaVenCQ3YJydLNVSG5yfE3-Ig)

They grow to about 16" in this particular stream. Very aggressive feeders.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 22, 2013, 02:53 PM
wiredstone she's  prettier  then  you  anyhow.....  nice  to  see  a  couple   enjoying  life  together ^5  the  mrs  is  ready  to  set  and  watch  a  pole  again  herself ,i been  waiting  almost  2  years  for  this ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jul 22, 2013, 05:14 PM
I found a old tubular glass rod it is a hawthorne  #60-6679 -81/2  this rod doesn't have a weight number . Can anyone help md ID this esp what weight fly line it takes . This rod is from the late 60's or early 70's .any help is appreciate .thanks
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jul 22, 2013, 09:24 PM
Another thing about this rod thats cool is there is a carved out spot for your thumb in the cork . I believe it was made like that from the factory .
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 29, 2013, 01:49 AM
Well, I gave the ugly fly collection a workout over the weekend. All took fish, Rockies,Smallmouth and bluegills.Still, my mini clousers out-fished them. Best fly I've ever tied

Yesterday I took the boat to the canal for some bass action. I collected a few dozen crayfish Thursday evening when I was on the creek. Bass after bass after bass with a few drum mixed in. Had to bail early with weather coming in but I wasn't really into that fishing anyway. I wanted to chuck some flies.

I ordered up a couple of new fly lines the other day. A Cortland Precision Premium WF5F  for my TFO Axiom and a Sylk WF2F for my 2 wt. I've been running a DT5F  the Axiom. It's great for roll casting and medium distance, but, I think a weight forward line will give me better control at distance. I've been using a WF3F on the 2wt and it's definitely too much for that blank.

Anyway, more stuff to play with.

Trapper, I want honest field testing results for the leaders :laugh:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 29, 2013, 05:32 AM
oh  i'll  test  it  ;D  the  bass are  in the  pockets  in the river and  a  man  can  have  some  fun know  ...i  been watching the  guys  bait  fishing  for  carp  down at the  river too ,  i  have  to admit  it was  impressive  looking outfits  to  catch  ole  rubber  nose .
 well  trapp  forgot to  register  his  v botom and  i'm waiting  for the  dmv  to open , i'm  sure  if i  sneak  mr  cuomo  would  be  circling me with  his  Gov  helocoptor  and searching  my  truck  for  8  rounds  in a  rifle  magzine  ......  have  fun  boys   and  fish  hard 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Jul 29, 2013, 05:43 AM
Good job on the fish RG!

Have fun at the DMV trapper.You'll feel better fishing when your boat is legal ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Jul 29, 2013, 06:23 AM
rg...tying instructions/photo of the mini-clouser?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 29, 2013, 07:22 AM
Good job on the fish RG!

Have fun at the DMV trapper.You'll feel better fishing when your boat is legal ;D

yup  i  will  , i hate  the hassle  of  things  not  being  right ,i  just  used  the  jon boat  yesterday  so no biggy
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: OLA-FAN on Jul 29, 2013, 10:15 AM
I found a old tubular glass rod it is a hawthorne  #60-6679 -81/2  this rod doesn't have a weight number . Can anyone help md ID this esp what weight fly line it takes . This rod is from the late 60's or early 70's .any help is appreciate .thanks
Hawthorne was the trade name that Montgomery Wards used for their line of fishing rods and reels.
  Most likely, the rod you have is from the late 50's to early 60's.  Can't help you with the line weight but being an 8 1/2 foot rod, I'd guess it's a 6-7 or 7-8 weight based on old glass fly rods I have owned.
  Not worth much but nice old rods to use or add to a collection.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Jul 29, 2013, 01:35 PM
Thanks o_f ,i was thinking it was more like a 4 wt but i don't have any experance with that old of rod . Thanks again.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: prchslyr on Jul 29, 2013, 02:50 PM
Well. You guys' done did it!
I'm going to give the 'Ol fly rod another go. I've been following this thread since day one and you've worn me down.
Maybe at the ripe old age of 36 I'll finally have the patience to graduate to the fly.  ;D
As a total noob I owe you guys a huge thanks for the info in this thread and the tying thread. Armed with your tips and an hour of Lefty Kreh videos I'll have a little confidence hitting the local honey hole tonight. Wish me luck!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 29, 2013, 04:59 PM
I've said it before....I'll say it again...If you want to get some solid instruction on casting, look up some Joan Wulff videos on You Tube. What Lefty has in aggressiveness, she has in pure artistry. Learning from her smooth as silk, classical technique will help any fly fisher anywhere.

Mini Clouser

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/Untitled.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/Untitled.jpg.html)

I tie #12 - #6 on a Natural Curve, 2x long nymph hook. Light streamer hooks will work as well. The dace colors are killers although, rust/white and olive/white produce well in my streams. . Brass beads for heavier....chain beads for light.

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 29, 2013, 06:50 PM
nice  rg! 

so  i  went  down at  8:30  am  to  register  my  boat  and  "do  the  right  thing"  ya  know   God  really  does  have a sence  of  humor  ,what are  the chances  the  DMV  computors were  down ALL  day???? 

oh  well  i  spent  the  time  cleaning  up  the  v bottom  and  rigging  it  up a little  ,cross  your  fingers and  i'll  be  back in my  beloved  river  by  9 am  tomorrow
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 30, 2013, 04:29 PM
I'm an agnostic, but life sure seems to have a way of paying us back for our indiscretions. I say , grab the fly chaser and hit the streams ;D

I saw the funniest thing I've seen in many years today. I was stopped at a red light in my bucket truck and the car next to me, occupied by an oriental family, had a bobble head Buddha on the dash. Made my day....I'll be smiling for months over that one.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Jul 30, 2013, 05:06 PM
LOL!! Thank you!!! :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 30, 2013, 05:51 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/4fa8b0be-bd84-4220-a0c3-644ce40b3ac2_zpsc52e7028.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/4fa8b0be-bd84-4220-a0c3-644ce40b3ac2_zpsc52e7028.jpg.html)

 ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 04, 2013, 03:15 PM
Had a hard time deciding what to use for a fly rod this morning. The wind was blowing pretty hard but I really wanted to use the 3wt. So...I spooled up a new WF4F Cortland Precision on the Albright and grabbed the 3wt. Opted for a 60" heavy butt furled leader and 4x tippet. Except for adding a couple of feet of 5x for some lighter flies, that was the setup. It handled everything from #16 elk hair caddis to some pretty hefty clousers.

Moving up a line weight and using a weight forward helped a lot. I even landed a carp in the 12lb range.

A really fun fishing day on my "Backyard Stream".

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 05, 2013, 02:46 PM
Had a hard time deciding what to use for a fly rod this morning. The wind was blowing pretty hard but I really wanted to use the 3wt. So...I spooled up a new WF4F Cortland Precision on the Albright and grabbed the 3wt. Opted for a 60" heavy butt furled leader and 4x tippet. Except for adding a couple of feet of 5x for some lighter flies, that was the setup. It handled everything from #16 elk hair caddis to some pretty hefty clousers.

Moving up a line weight and using a weight forward helped a lot. I even landed a carp in the 12lb range.

A really fun fishing day on my "Backyard Stream".

RG
Decisions...decisions...decisions!!! ;D

Glad your taking time to enjoy the fine outdoors Bob!! ;)


KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 20, 2013, 10:10 AM
Sooooo...where are the Old Farts?? ::)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Aug 20, 2013, 11:05 AM
I'm learning  to cast ,found that it is easier to learn on a 6 and/or 7 wt then on my new 4 wt .been catching some smallies and sunnies but nothing of any size yet.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 20, 2013, 11:13 AM
Black55....check!! ;D

Great to hear your out chucking flies! ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bluemountainlaker on Aug 20, 2013, 01:59 PM
man I am dying to get a fly rod but it just isn't in the cards this year. :'(  maybe next year I will get one cause I really want to try trout fishin with flys. theres a few nice rivers were its fly fishing only on the best parts so I need to learn!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Aug 20, 2013, 02:25 PM
Blue start asking around to your buddies and check out garage sales and flea markets . I picked up a sweet old martin rod with a  nice old reel with line.all i had to do was put some backing on the line and add a leader and i was set to go . All for 20 dollars.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Aug 20, 2013, 08:59 PM
Sooooo...where are the Old Farts?? ::)--KP 8)

Spent last week camping up in the wilds of canada...  ;D
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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 21, 2013, 01:54 AM
We're here....just working and fishing. Seems you need to work to earn the time and stuff to fish. All good things come with a price, so...

"I can tell your fancy I can tell your plain
You give something up for everything you gain
Since every pleasure's got an edge of pain
Pay for your ticket and don't complain."
Robert Allen Zimmerman


I've been playing with my 2wt and new lines for my 3wt and 5 wt. I bought a Cortland Sylk WF2F for the little rod and ...my oh my but it's sweet. I've had so much fun with that build. I dedicated last Saturday's outing to dries only. A 60" light furled leader with 3' of 5x tippet and it was settling #18 BWO's and tiny Elk Hair Caddis like a feather.

For the 3wt I picked up a Cortland Precision Trout WF4F. The TFO blanks are fairly fast and it handles the 4wt line like a dream. I landed a couple of carp in the 8lb range with it. Very happy so far.

Lastly, I picked up a Cortland Precision WF5F for my TFO Axiom. I've been using a DT5F on it and it seems tight. By that I mean the loops are exceptionally tight. It roll casts like nothing I've ever handled, but distance is a problem. The weight forward seems to load the rod nicely. I may find a 6wt line for it for "hero casting" the big rivers.

In short...I've been working and fly fishing. Oh yeah...I also bought a car. An actual car. A new Nissan Altima. First "car" in 35 years. I love it....and it's RED!
 I was gonna trade the little red truck, but I couldn't bring myself to part with it. I kept it for a fishmobile ;D (At least that's what I told my Bride) What a difference in technology from the '03 Ranger :-\

Looks like a fun trip Jay!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 21, 2013, 01:54 AM
Where's that Trapper?????

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 21, 2013, 05:31 AM
DC...check! ;D Your not an Old Fart...YET!! Great pics of the family Jay!! Great stuff!!

RG....check! ;D


Yes....where is Trapper?? ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Aug 21, 2013, 06:24 AM
DC...check! ;D Your not an Old Fart...



38 with twins... I feel real old!!! Plus I figured over 30 years of weilding a flyrod.  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 21, 2013, 06:41 AM
i'm here  RG ...i  just been fishing alot!!!! and  fieldtesting   something  ...which i'm impressed with  ...
after  spending the  summer fishing as  many  places as i  can i  have  reconfirmed  all my beliefs  ...super braid sucks..
plastic  is  for people  that  can't  touch real  bait ....chinnook  salmon  don't feed in rivers....wear a  life  jacket!  and
flyfishing only water is  for  people  that hate kids with  zebco's  ......  same  trapper ....same  opinions!.......and  rember  this we still live in america  and  everyone is  entitled to my opinion!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 21, 2013, 10:52 AM
Trapper...check! ;D  We wouldn't have you any other way Trap!! ;) :flag:--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 21, 2013, 04:26 PM
d**n Trapper...that has to be the most concise, accurate post I've ever seen you make.  :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

You're the second field tester ...well third including me. They're different aren't they? You'll be fishing them 5 years from now. I made some for my 2 wt to go with a new line and dry flies. The best part is you can make them any way you want. If you ever want to learn how to make them, I'll pack up my kit and take a ride. All it will cost you is breakfast and some fly fishing  ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Aug 26, 2013, 12:03 AM
This rookie old fart has been hitting the stream throwing flys ever other day now for almost a month now ! And can say that i have improved in my casting and aim 100% in the last 2 weeks. Now i just need to improve my hook setting ,lol .RG tell jr i hook into a large smallie with one of his frogs , but it spit the frog just as i was reaching for it. The sunnie's are getting better to ,they are hitting my dry flies hard and chewing them up.i've started a wall of fame for flies that have caught atleast 10 fish and are unuseable ! My largest fish so far is a 1# large mouth , i know it's not a big fish ,but hopefully as i get more experance in reading the stream the size will increase. And a 1# lm in the stream i'm fishing isn't that bad ,the smallies do grow bigger.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Aug 26, 2013, 12:10 AM
Oops i ment KP sorry Rg .
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Aug 26, 2013, 12:22 AM
Dang trap did u cut your hair ? Your red neck is showing . LOL I agree with RG great post.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WaynefromMaine on Aug 27, 2013, 07:55 AM
   That's a very nice family pic DC,   You should be very proud..    :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :clapping: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :flag:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Aug 27, 2013, 05:08 PM
Great pics DC
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Aug 27, 2013, 06:18 PM


super pics Jay  :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Aug 30, 2013, 01:15 AM
Have a ? About hook sizes, is the hook (size 10 fly) the same as a size 10 jig hook?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 30, 2013, 02:10 AM
Over the years I've come to the conclusion that there's no standard for hook sizes. A #10 can vary all over the place. Unless I can get my hands on one to actually look at it, it's a crap shoot.

I have my favorites that I buy online and that's what I use. Go to a fly shop somewhere and pick out what you like.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bluemountainlaker on Aug 30, 2013, 05:20 AM
keep posting info guys! im learning a ton from this thread! I like that clouser fly and I also like that foam creature bait you made rg.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Aug 30, 2013, 08:33 PM
Another ? I have , is there any way to regulate the depth a wet fly ? I'm fishing a stream that is 1/2 to 3 ft deep with floating wt forward line. Snagging up is my problem, i can get my fly but i'm scaring fish and wasting good water retrieving them.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Aug 30, 2013, 08:55 PM
Another ? I have , is there any way to regulate the depth a wet fly ? I'm fishing a stream that is 1/2 to 3 ft deep with floating wt forward line. Snagging up is my problem, i can get my fly but i'm scaring fish and wasting good water retrieving them.

I swing alot of wets and emergers and you can definatly regulate the depth. I tie some patterns with a heavier wet fly hook and a tiny bit of lead or a bead added. I also tie some on a lightweight dry fly hook when I dont want them to sink much. And some wet emergers I add a cdc wing to keep it in the surface film or close - this has accounted for alot of fish!  ;D Some flotant on em works also...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Aug 30, 2013, 09:14 PM
That is what i want flys that that stays in the upper half of the water depth. I will try the floatent trick and see if that helps. I don't or can't get pic's so i have to ask dc how's the twins?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Aug 30, 2013, 09:39 PM
That is what i want flys that that stays in the upper half of the water depth. I will try the floatent trick and see if that helps. I don't or can't get pic's so i have to ask dc how's the twins?

Doing well, busy busy!
14 months old, we have had our fair share of ear and sinus infections, ect... Leah is getting tubes in her ears next week. They are running and learning new stuff each day. Thier favorite words are dad or da-da and bucks. If you ask them where the bucks are they point to one of the mounts, if outside they point out back. Tired is at a whole new level as both the wife and I work full time+... but we are blessed and lovin it!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Aug 30, 2013, 11:04 PM
Cool dc try to get some rest, lol all to soon u will wonder where the baby yrs went![:-]
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 01, 2013, 05:59 AM
RG   your  leader  has  offically  passed  the  rubber nose trout test!  i  will  be  tossing  some  glow  bugs  at  owsego river  rockets  this week .....  so  far  i love  them   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 01, 2013, 08:01 AM
Jay...you'll come to the conlusion that, in fact, you and Mrs. DC will get all the sleep you need when you pass away!!! LOL!! ;D Kids are a blast!! Have fun and enjoy every minute of it!!! ;) LIFE IS GOOD!!--KP 8)

Black55...those frogs are alot of fun if fished properly.... ;) Have fun!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Sep 01, 2013, 09:08 AM
Jay...you'll come to the conlusion that, in fact, you and Mrs. DC will get all the sleep you need when you pass away!!! LOL!! ;D Kids are a blast!! Have fun and enjoy every minute of it!!! ;) LIFE IS GOOD!!--KP 8)


The other day the wife was talking about being too tired to do something... My reply was, "we are gonne be tired the rest of our lifes"  ;D
My last nap was opening day of walleye season. Dad and I pounded eyes all morning them went to the cabin, I crashed for 2 hours!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 01, 2013, 06:23 PM
Oh....don't fret. Your time will come. All too soon.

My Bride and I are official "Empty Nesters". The kids grow up. Sometimes too quickly and sometimes all too slowly. The afterlife of parenting is to be savored. Grandparenthood is even better. Time to enjoy each other, your children and your children's children.

Life is good!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Sep 01, 2013, 07:10 PM
Oh....don't fret. Your time will come. All too soon.

My Bride and I are official "Empty Nesters". The kids grow up. Sometimes too quickly and sometimes all too slowly. The afterlife of parenting is to be savored. Grandparenthood is even better. Time to enjoy each other, your children and your children's children.

Life is good!

RG


      Great words of wisdom from an old f--t...   ;D
25 years tomorrow for me and my lovely bride...   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Sep 05, 2013, 12:01 AM
Hey Trapper do i get to join the Trapper exclusive old fa~rts ? I caught my first rockbass on a flyrod today , wish i could say it was a monster fish but i can not lie it was a dink ! Just like the smallie , lm and most of the sunnies i caught to day. But all in all it was a fun day with the flyrod!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 07, 2013, 04:07 PM
Spent my day on the Genesee River in Allegany county.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/3478x640_zps04ae1d7e.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/3478x640_zps04ae1d7e.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/1640x478_zpsc9f11504.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/1640x478_zpsc9f11504.jpg.html)

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'Nuf said?

What a great day ;D

Breakfast at Ace's Country Cupboard in Belfast.....8 hours of tromping new waters and catching smallies. I took enough flies to outfit the entirety of the Trout Unlimited membership....I used 1 fly all day long.

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Seriously...I used only that 1 fly. I never changed it or the leader or tippet all day long. The thing is a smallmouth killer. Saw deer, ospey and tons of beaver tracks.

I'll be there more often.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: joshjj2010 on Sep 07, 2013, 07:36 PM
Love that fly reel
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 08, 2013, 12:31 AM
I love my Red Truck Diesel. A truly well made reel. And....you don't have to sell the house to buy one ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/redtrucklogo_zpsfbcb0254.png) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/redtrucklogo_zpsfbcb0254.png.html)

(http://www.lelandfly.com/core/media/media.nl?id=112657&c=3316021&h=c45b59ef6bc9958467ae)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Sep 08, 2013, 06:31 AM
Great pictures and smallmouths RG...    :thumbup_smilie: :clapping:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Sep 08, 2013, 07:52 AM
Ok RG what kind of fly real is little red ? And what fly did u use? I would guess a clouser ,but just wondering?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Sep 08, 2013, 07:59 AM
Sorry i ment reel not real!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 08, 2013, 08:41 AM
Well.......It's a Red Truck Diesel and the fly is the one in the picture.

That smalle was a horse Dom. Especially in the deep moving water. Their heads were shaped differently than the canal and lake smallies I get.


RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Sep 08, 2013, 11:34 AM
nice report Bob; I have heard there are big bass south of Portageville in the Genny. Glad that you confirmed it again. I've only targeted trout from Filmore to Schongo especially around Scio, the biggest around 22 inches.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 08, 2013, 01:36 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/tricos_zps93147b1e.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/tricos_zps93147b1e.jpg.html)

There was a nice hatch of Tricos around 9:30 am. I never saw a fish rise.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Sep 08, 2013, 01:37 PM
Sorry RG my phone will not allow me to see pic's that is why i asked.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Sep 08, 2013, 01:41 PM
If that is the name of the reel it is a new one to me , where can i see one ? Who sells them?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Sep 08, 2013, 02:08 PM
At least i can't see pic's on mmf don't know why and no one has been able to give me , not even the att store.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 08, 2013, 03:00 PM
If that is the name of the reel it is a new one to me , where can i see one ? Who sells them?
Leland Fly Fishing shop. And yes, the fly is a clouser. When are you gonna get a real computer? You're missing a lot. My Iphone sees all the pictures , no problem.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Sep 08, 2013, 03:44 PM
I know RG ,i'm working on saving the money for one ! With the limited income i have it takes me some time.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Sep 08, 2013, 03:46 PM
And i just have a 3 g phone.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 09, 2013, 07:51 PM
just  checking in guys!  I been making  up  for  some  lost time  fishing  . life  is  good  right  now ,  I  fished   Oswego  river  hard  last week  had  to be one  of the  best  bluegill  bites  I expearance  in years  ....  I  crushed  them  and  had   a  riot I  even  went  and  got  the  grand  daughter  to  help  out  ...  lot  of  fish on  foam  then  as  the  day  went I  turned  to a   bead  head  gray  scud  life  is  good   guys   and   RG  not  a  complaint  on  your  leader  yet  but  a  suggestion  ...  add  a  colored   piece  at  the  end   for  a  build  in  strke  indicator ! for   short  line  nymphing  it  would  be   great  ...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Sep 09, 2013, 08:11 PM
Wow trapper sounds like a great time ! As KP says Life Is Good And Even Better With A Fly Rod In Your Hand!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Sep 11, 2013, 11:46 PM
I have another ? (lol can hear the groans already lol) anyway the ? Is what knot do most of you guys use to tie your tippits with ? I've been using the double surgions but have found the figure 8 (orvis ) knot to be a little easier for me to tie. So what do you guys use?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 12, 2013, 01:10 AM
Trapper,
 At the butt end or tip?

RG
 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 12, 2013, 01:12 AM
I have another ? (lol can hear the groans already lol) anyway the ? Is what knot do most of you guys use to tie your tippits with ? I've been using the double surgions but have found the figure 8 (orvis ) knot to be a little easier for me to tie. So what do you guys use?
Blood knot for tippet to mono leader or tippet to tippet.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Sep 12, 2013, 08:18 AM
Tippit to tippit (like going from 6# tippit to 4# tippit then the fly.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Sep 12, 2013, 09:04 AM
Thanks RG now i have to learn a new knot ! Lol i'm guessing that the blood knot may be one of the stronger knots for the kind of flyfishing i do!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 12, 2013, 04:12 PM
Pretty simple and it works. A  nice in line knot.

Blood Knot (http://www.leadertec.com/tipsandtechniques/fishing_knots/knots_blood.html)
RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Sep 12, 2013, 04:18 PM


RG, quick question for line to line what do you think of the double uni ?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Sep 12, 2013, 05:54 PM
I tie all my own tapered leaders with blood knots for fly fishing and when I fish two flies I leave a longer tag end on the last blood knot that the second flie goes on...
Typically on the delly im starting with 8 or 10lb and ending up with 4 or 5lb. No worrieds with that knot for me...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Sep 12, 2013, 06:17 PM
Thanks RG and DC i've learned to tie more knots in the last 48 hr ,feels like i'm trying for a boyscout merit badge!! DC what is a delly? And thanks for the tip on the 2 fly  set up. DC  do just use mono for building leaders ?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: kc on Sep 12, 2013, 06:53 PM
Delly = Delaware River
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Sep 12, 2013, 07:31 PM
Yep and yep...
Mono and fluorocarbon. Try and keep the second fly on a piece of line 2-4 inchs long, any longer and it twist around the main line.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 13, 2013, 01:48 AM

RG, quick question for line to line what do you think of the double uni ?
A pain in the neck for my big old hands to tie. But a better knot for joining lines of greatly different diameter.


I happened to be in Cortland yesterday so I stopped into the factory store. There weren't any great deals to be had. A little disappointing. I did buy a WF7F Sylk for the "Boo", along with a few spools of leader material. It gave me chest pains to pay retail at a factory outlet, but I wanted the new line :-\ (Same price as Cabelas online)

Supposedly, they're having some big sell off sale in the next couple of weeks...or so the salesman said.

I looked at a 10', 5wt nymph rod. Their latest and greatest I guess. Aside from a pretty good whale in the last 2 sections, ( poorly spined) they could at least get the eyes on in line.  I'll build my own, thanks.

But....I do like their lines.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Sep 13, 2013, 07:07 AM

thanks RG it's funny when we talk about hands I'm short 2 digits, the the double uni was the only one I can tie without making myself bald , thanks for the response

yea I have noticed a lot of rods ,that the guides are not as straight as they could be , and remember there will always be a latest and greatest  ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 13, 2013, 04:40 PM
Gotta go with what you know Fred ;D

Seems like after 30 years in a cabinet shop I should be missing a few too. Some how I can still count to 10 without getting too confused ;D

Now, if I can keep fro frying myself for the next few years, I may end up OK!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Sep 13, 2013, 05:33 PM
I love my Red Truck Diesel. A truly well made reel. And....you don't have to sell the house to buy one ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/redtrucklogo_zpsfbcb0254.png) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/redtrucklogo_zpsfbcb0254.png.html)

(http://www.lelandfly.com/core/media/media.nl?id=112657&c=3316021&h=c45b59ef6bc9958467ae)

RG

RG,
That is a nice looking reel, but for $200+.... what can it do that a nice old vintage US made Pflueger can't?

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Sep 13, 2013, 11:46 PM
Thanks DC i tied some up today. The butt section is17# then 8# then 6# ,with a couple with 4#. Hope they will turn over ok. Will find out monday.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 14, 2013, 01:20 AM
RG,
That is a nice looking reel, but for $200+.... what can it do that a nice old vintage US made Pflueger can't?

WK
Old reels are fine if that's what you want. I have a few myself.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/9-22-20121/DSC00717_zpsd2a72186.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/9-22-20121/DSC00717_zpsd2a72186.jpg.html)

The 2 Pfleugers in the second row bottom right are the first fly reels I ever bought. The backing on the 1495 is there for a reason.....I still use it ;D

I'm not what you'd call an impulse buyer. I do my homework before I part with my hard earned nickles.

Form follows function for me. The Red truck is a quantum leap in machining accuracy and quality from my old Pfleugers, Martins and Southbends. Better materials, better drag, better fit = smoother action. I paid $100 for mine on sale at Leland. I can upgrade it with them any time I want. It's worth every penny of $200. It's a high quality reel at a very good price. I bought it to match up with a 5 wt TFO rod I built. The weight is perfect for the rod and, for me, the outfit is very enjoyable to use. It's by far my favorite reel to use. It finds time on several of my rods.

If I'm taking my "Boo" or an old glass rod out for some air time, I go nostalgic.

Actually, I prefer the Martins to the pfleugers :-\

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Sep 14, 2013, 10:31 AM
RG,

I hope you don't think I was being crass...I asked that because I too believe in quality first and was considering a new 6wt outfit. I have a 1495 as well and it's a great reel, albeit a little heavy. I have a few old automatics I keep on a curio shelf in my den but never use them. One is a Shakespeare model GD, one a Martin horizontal patent dated Oct. 9 1923, and the other a Perrine model 50 new in it's original box from the 50's. My Mom bought me the Martin along with a Montague 9' bamboo rod at an auction when I was a kid. If I remember right, she gave $7 for it. I used that outfit with mono to fish bait for our local stockies. Once while baiting up I accidentally bumped the retrieve lever and drove a hook into my finger, that's when I decided to retire that one. I enjoy fly fishing but I'll admit I'm still a novice. I have a few decent outfits, one 3wt, two 4wts, and one 6wt. Took up tying a few years back as well and tie a lot of my own flies now. Nothing elaborate, just what my present skills and materials on hand will allow. I enjoy the tying almost as much as the fishing (almost).  ;D

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 14, 2013, 04:26 PM
Nah, I didn't take it that way at all. I love my old reels. I use my new reels more ;D

I'm putting a new WF7F Cortland 444 Sylk on one of my 1133 South Bend reels for tomorrow's outing. Had to work today...which sucked....but the money was good for a few toys ;D

Haven't decided if I'm taking the Boo or the Fenglas.....decisions.... decisions ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Sep 14, 2013, 10:27 PM
Nah, I didn't take it that way at all. I love my old reels. I use my new reels more ;D

I'm putting a new WF7F Cortland 444 Sylk on one of my 1133 South Bend reels for tomorrow's outing. Had to work today...which sucked....but the money was good for a few toys ;D

Haven't decided if I'm taking the Boo or the Fenglas.....decisions.... decisions ;D

RG

Yea...I still have my Fenwick FF806 that I purchased back in '82. I loaded up the spare spool I have for my Pflueger 1495 with Scientific Anglers WF 6F Bass Bug Taper line. Figured it would make a good river Smallmouth outfit. I can't believe what those older glass Fenwick rods are bringing on Ebay nowadays.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 17, 2013, 01:43 AM
So I took the Bamboo out on Sunday for a while. High praise for the new Cortland Sylk lines so far. They handle like a dream on bamboo and glass. Caught some nice rockies and smallmouth. Had a ball. I lost one nice smallie. Not being used to the power of the boo, I broke him off. I had a #12 dace streamer on with 5x tippet. Guess I've forgotten how to use heavier rods after playing with the 2 & 3wts all summer.

Lots of fun though. Very satisfying to use a rod and reel I restored with flies and leader I made....and catch fish ;D

That's why I love fly fishing!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Sep 17, 2013, 06:05 AM

RG nice collection  :thumbup_smilie: I remember my dad using a few of those , sadly I only have a couple left one is an old Ocean City ,and I have a few of my gramps old spinning reels 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 18, 2013, 01:22 AM
There's more Fred :-\ I've managed to curb my appetite for quite a while now. Haven't bought one in a year or so. I have a few around my office too.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Sep 18, 2013, 06:00 AM
There's more Fred :-\ I've managed to curb my appetite for quite a while now. Haven't bought one in a year or so. I have a few around my office too.

RG

sounds like you need to feed your addiction  ;) nice collection
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 18, 2013, 06:15 AM
I have another ? (lol can hear the groans already lol) anyway the ? Is what knot do most of you guys use to tie your tippits with ? I've been using the double surgions but have found the figure 8 (orvis ) knot to be a little easier for me to tie. So what do you guys use?

i personally  use  a surgions  knot ...  i  can  tie  it  in the  dark  and  it's  fast and  strong  .... 

http://www.animatedknots.com/surgeonsjoin/ (http://www.animatedknots.com/surgeonsjoin/)


 rg  i  say  at the  tippet  end!  i  used a  indicator  nymphing and it  worked   great  but that was  in  calm water  i  want to use  your leaders short line nymphing  some   faster water and  pocket water  .....  from salmon to  blue gills  ...and  i  see  no wear  ....  casting   good   .... these  leaders  get  a  thumbs  up  ...... 


heading  down  to the  river  you all  have  a  great  day and  get  out on the water!  ....God  bless 





life  is  good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 18, 2013, 04:27 PM
It's an easy addition Trap. Seems the best thread is the Orange. For some reason the Uni in hot pink and Chartreuse tends to fray. As far as lasting... the first one I made is still on one of my 5 wts. 3 full years now. I've been gradually increasing the thread counts and testing them on different rods. I twisted one up for the "Boo" and a 7wt Cortland Sylk line that was like magic.

I'd enjoy showing you how to make them. They're really easy and for a fly tier, it's a natural.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Sep 18, 2013, 08:11 PM
Hey Trapper just had to let you know that i caught my my first fish on a clouser , it was a small lmbass . I have to say i thought i was casting well untill i tied that clouser on. Man those flys are tough to cast ! Hate to ask , but how do you fish clousers?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 19, 2013, 12:31 PM
Hey Trapper just had to let you know that i caught my my first fish on a clouser , it was a small lmbass . I have to say i thought i was casting well untill i tied that clouser on. Man those flys are tough to cast ! Hate to ask , but how do you fish clousers?

don't  know  never  fished  one  , never can get  then to  cast  :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Sep 19, 2013, 06:38 PM
:)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 20, 2013, 05:55 AM
well  went  down  to the  river, bluegills were  stacked in the  marina  but  i had  some  help with me  from one of my future  ole  farts , this is  one  of my little  fishing partners ... weather she  uses  a untra light or the old mans  fly rod  she loves  bluegills   ;D

(http://)(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/Photo-0177_zps018d7834.jpg) (http://s579.photobucket.com/user/trapper2000/media/Photo-0177_zps018d7834.jpg.html)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 20, 2013, 10:09 AM
Great pic Trap!! ;) Way to go young lady!! :thumbup_smilie: And, You have KP's permission to put a whoopin' on the old fart when you fish with him!! ;) Priceless Trap!!


LIFE IS GOOD!!--KP 8)


 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 20, 2013, 11:57 AM
she  does out fish me  now   ;D an  ty  kp
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Sep 20, 2013, 01:33 PM
Nice. i think i know where that secret spot is ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Sep 20, 2013, 03:11 PM


well done young trapp-et  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 20, 2013, 05:08 PM
That's a great picture Trapper. I have a 10 year old grandson.......maybe we can play matchmakers ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 20, 2013, 06:44 PM
rg  might  work .....  i have to warn you tho she's  high maitance  she insists  on  ice cream after  fishing
 ;D

trappet  lol  i like  that  and  yes she is  opinionated
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Sep 20, 2013, 10:48 PM
rg  might  work .....  i have to warn you tho she's  high maitance  she insists  on  ice cream after  fishing
 ;D....
LOL!   I had a BASS partner like that once!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Sep 20, 2013, 11:32 PM
Hmm a Trapper / RG blood line , the fish would not stand a chance !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 21, 2013, 06:52 AM
think  the  trappette  and  i might head down  for  some  bluegill action then a   dive  down to  oswego  ....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 21, 2013, 11:38 AM
got  some fish time  in before  the  rain ,the  cold front  pushed  the  fish  deep  so i was  letting the  nymph  drop  to  just about the  bottom most  takes were on the  drop about  18 inches  from  bottom ...  ended  up with a  good  dinners  worth  and i see  rain is here  now  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 23, 2013, 05:55 PM
another  solid  day  of  gills  ....  fish are  deep  now .near  bottom in 12  ft of water ... ran   2  bead  head  weights  and waited  for them to  sink ...  once down  the  fish were  there  solid  ... i  was  over  100  gills  by  noon  ...but i  noticed  more  small  fish  ....hope  they  come   shallow  when it  hits  70  again  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Sep 24, 2013, 05:51 AM
Nice picture Trap!!..Good job on those bluegills!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 27, 2013, 04:57 AM
i  have  never  had a  better blue  gill year!!!!  i  have  found you may  pull afew  off the  top (  foam  yellow  jacket pattern  or  a  small  cricket)  the  real  meat is  12  foot down  , so  we  been playing  , with the  fly rod i been using a  double nymph set up both weighted well to  get  down there  and  extend the tippet .... takes a  bit  to get use  to ,i'm a  creature of habbit and i hate  change ....  i know what yer going to  say  ...blah  blah  blah  ...... i don't  care  lol  ....  rg  your  leaders  work  great  for this ! 

 next  i  been cheating  at  times ,been free  jigging  with  my  okuma  rods  i  got  from snagger  (best panfish rods i  ever  got! ask  snagger  to  get  you one  if  your a  panfish man)....what a  great time!  and  yessssssssssssssssss  i'm using  GOLDEN STREN ..... but i have  found 2 new  tricks!  .....  i  ran out of  spikes  and  had a  jar of gulp ALIVE  waxies ....... i used them  for 2 weeks  now .... they  fish as  well as  spikes  most times .... i wouldn't  replace  spikes  but  never  hurts  to  carry a  bottle in your  pack pack ....  next  butter worms  ...bit  expensive  but  i caught  78 keeper  gills on 20  ...

on  the  fly fishing . top water  foam yellow  jacket  bee pattern or a  cricket ..... under  double  nymphs  weighted heavy ...been running a  stone or prince nymph and a  hares ear  bead head .....


bass and  pike are evey where too  ... life is  good  enjoy it!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 27, 2013, 04:55 PM
Love it Trap...great report.

I'll be hitting the upper reaches of the Genesee this Sunday (have to work tomorrow.....again :-\). I'll be searching for hungry smallmouth. I've tied a selection of these buggers

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/8-25-2013/DSC01284_zps3093d158.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/8-25-2013/DSC01284_zps3093d158.jpg.html)

It's my experimental Clouser pattern. last time out I used only one of these and fished the entire day catching a good number of smallies. I created a few different patterns this time. Maybe I'll get to use more than one ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 27, 2013, 09:22 PM
impressive  not so young sky walker !  ...i  like  it  ....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 28, 2013, 12:26 AM
Be the fly Danny....be the fly.......na nnnnnnnnnnnnn!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 28, 2013, 04:37 AM
fish on ...fish off ....fish on ....fish of

seriously  nice  fly ....  i been  playing  with some  bead chain eyed flies  myself

heading  back out after this  coffee RG  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 02, 2013, 07:40 AM
i'm  still  having  fun   with  the  flyrod   mixed  with  the  ultra lite .... i  was  fishing   my  marina   and  the  fish   were  slow  and  deep   around  5  pm  i  seen  fish  comeing  up  taking  something  of  the  top  i  switche  to  the  fly  rod  with a  foam  spinder-bee  pattern omg  fish  after  fish  it  lasted  till   dark and  i  quit   when  it  slowed  down abit  i  switched  to  a  NON weighted  nymph   and   whould  cast  it  and   watch  it  start to  drop   a  twitch  and   blam  a  gill  was  on ....also  took a  few  small  large  mouths  and a  decent  small  mouth  during  the  blitz  i  never  fished a  fly  below  2 foot  ....  that  was a  change  i  was  over  12  to  14  foot  ..... and  i  been  fishing  deep ...

on  the  other  side  i  been   compairing   the  gulp  live  waxiues   to   bits  of  crawlers  and   spikes  ....  i  honestly  can't  say  which  worked  best  however  there  was  times  live  bait  worked  better   but  during  a   bite   it   didn't  matter  and  the  gulp  was  quicker ....i  would  not  hesatate   to  go  fishing  with  just  a  jar  of  gulp  for  bait 

i  did  free  jig  alot  to   i  used  a  1/32   hair  jig  on  bottom  and  a  bead  head  hares  ear   above  it  on  my  5 1/5  ft   okuma  ....  i  used  one   rod  with  the  golden  stren  the  othere   with  the   new  pro  crappie line  the   crappie  line  would  be  great  if  you  could  get  it  in  2 or  4  lb! 

most  fish  were  on  the  bottom    during  mid  day  and the  perch  are  showing  up  in  numbers  now

best  time  of  the  year  guys  get  out  there  and  remeber  take  a  kid  fishing   .....  life  is  good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Oct 02, 2013, 08:57 AM
Wow Trap i guess i believe u now , about fishing the the clouser , i have hard time believing u haven't used a clouser streamer. But they are hard to cast, atleast with a 4wt rod , i'm going to try them with my 7/8 wt rod. By the way sounds like u had a great day , big gills are a blast on my 4wt i'm guessing u were using your 3wt.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 02, 2013, 11:46 AM
black  i  use  clousers  alot  buddy  i  was  just  pulling  your  leg  ...  try  shooting   your  line  higher     if  that  doesn't  help   you  may  need a  heavier   rod  wt  ...95%  of  my  fishing  is  with  my  5  wt   but  i  been   flyfishing  awhile
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Oct 02, 2013, 02:23 PM
Just a while .LOL, i will try my 7wt with them ,as soon as my back heals up.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Oct 02, 2013, 02:46 PM
Nice goin' boys; I'm still getting my share of browns  on dries with the tan EH caddis, p-Adams and BWO at size #16. RG, you might try that on the Genny for a diversion with the bass especially on a cloudy day in the late afternoon or evenong.!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 02, 2013, 04:50 PM
Never made it to the Genny last week. Worked Saturday and it left me with a hefty "to do" list for Sunday. I did get on my backyard stream and pestered the smalmouth and rock bass.

My fall go to fly.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/158_zps9ddc045d.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/158_zps9ddc045d.jpg.html)

Nice little streamer with a UV head & red squirrel tail. The red is important ;) They ain't perfect but they're sturdy fishing flies....and....fish love them :w00t:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 02, 2013, 05:12 PM
RG  very  nice   sorta  like  a   dace   pattern    ....i  like  them   :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 02, 2013, 05:25 PM
Nice flies Bob!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Oct 02, 2013, 05:53 PM
trapper...........i just heard that the salmon are hitting little chunks of chartreuse twisters in the salmon river. but you cant get them without a fly rod and a good fly reel with a sealed drag. keep it to your self because everyone will know soon. later 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 02, 2013, 05:55 PM
trapper...........i just heard that the salmon are hitting little chunks of chartreuse twisters in the salmon river. but you cant get them without a fly rod and a good fly reel with a sealed drag. keep it to your self because everyone will know soon. later 8)

 :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 02, 2013, 05:59 PM
trapper...........i just heard that the salmon are hitting little chunks of chartreuse twisters in the salmon river. but you cant get them without a fly rod and a good fly reel with a sealed drag. keep it to your self because everyone will know soon. later 8)
I heard that STREN GOLD catches more fish that any other line as well!!! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 02, 2013, 06:04 PM
I heard that STREN GOLD catches more fish that any other line as well!!! ;D

well  after  carefull field  testing    i  have   found  braided  sucks  for  panfish    the  one  person  that  likes  it  is  tony  and  he  hasn't  fished  inm  years  anyways   :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Oct 02, 2013, 06:05 PM
whos tony ??? :-* ;D ;D ;D ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 02, 2013, 06:08 PM
whos tony ??? :-* ;D ;D ;D ::)

my  point  exactly  :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Oct 02, 2013, 06:11 PM
my  point  exactly  :rotflol:
i heard that rain is coming trapper.you know what that means dont you? it will be time to go to church soon up the road............ ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 02, 2013, 06:16 PM
Y'all are just too funny.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 02, 2013, 06:23 PM
i heard that rain is coming trapper.you know what that means dont you? it will be time to go to church soon up the road............ ;)


 yup  i'll  do  a  few  days   but   i'm   having  fun  pounding  the  panfish  

_________________________________________________ ________________________________

Y'all are just too funny.

RG



some  say  we  are  out  spoken  too  :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Oct 03, 2013, 10:02 AM

Nice little streamer with a UV head & red squirrel tail. The red is important ;) They ain't perfect but they're sturdy fishing flies....and....fish love them :w00t:

RG

RG,

The wing looks like Red Squirrel, but did you use red hackle barbs or something else for the tail?

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 06, 2013, 05:24 AM
HUNT ... FISH ......HUNT ....FISH  

life  is   full  of   important  decessions  

early  morning   deer  watch ...afternoon  gill  slaughter  ....  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Oct 06, 2013, 05:49 AM
HUNT ... FISH ......HUNT ....FISH  

life  is   full  of   important  decessions  

early  morning   deer  watch ...afternoon  gill  slaughter  ....  ;D

you forgot the fall night time walleye shore smash
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 06, 2013, 11:50 AM
NORTH SHORE THUGZ NIGHT NINJA RUN NEXT SATURDAY NIGHT!!!! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 06, 2013, 03:21 PM
snake  head  tourny   night 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 06, 2013, 05:45 PM
RG,

The wing looks like Red Squirrel, but did you use red hackle barbs or something else for the tail?

WK
Just some red duck biots. Bucktail works just as well.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 07, 2013, 06:34 AM
snake  head  tourny   night 
I heard there is going to be a ROCKY MEMORIAL TOURNEY Trap....... :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 07, 2013, 10:38 AM
I heard there is going to be a ROCKY MEMORIAL TOURNEY Trap....... :rotflol:

won't  be  no  catch  and  release  either   ;D  seriously  we  should  have  a   oswego  harbor  goby  tourney  lol   we  can  have   it  with  a  50 %  pay  back  and   the  other  50%  go  to  a  charity  ... ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 07, 2013, 02:29 PM
won't  be  no  catch  and  release  either   ;D  seriously  we  should  have  a   oswego  harbor  goby  tourney  lol   we  can  have   it  with  a  50 %  pay  back  and   the  other  50%  go  to  a  charity  ... ;D
:rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 12, 2013, 04:59 AM
keep  casting  till the  guides  freeze   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 12, 2013, 12:54 PM
Myself, I'm working on perch flies. I have plans for perch on the fly stick.

When the guides finally freeze up tight, I'll start walking on water. Jig, jig, jig...........bump ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Oct 12, 2013, 06:18 PM
Myself, I'm working on perch flies. I have plans for perch on the fly stick.

When the guides finally freeze up tight, I'll start walking on water. Jig, jig, jig...........bump ;D

RG
yes sir............
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 15, 2013, 04:51 AM
just  pick warm  days and  fish  for  steel all winter  ............course  perch  taste a lot better
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 15, 2013, 06:48 AM
Josh was on the fish yesterday.. :flex: :bowdown:..we both had a blast on the river. He had a screamer of a steelie on for awhile until the hook popped. At least 12-15#. He said..."Oh well...there will be more"!! ;)--KP 8)



Life is GOOD!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 15, 2013, 11:52 AM
josh  is  my  hero!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 15, 2013, 01:13 PM
Mine too!! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 15, 2013, 02:38 PM
lol   he's  becoming  a   fine  young  man  ... you  and  the  mrs  have  done  a  good  job  KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: black55 on Oct 15, 2013, 02:49 PM
Very cool Josh:-]
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 16, 2013, 07:01 AM
(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae145/KingPerch/2013101495124143.jpg) (http://s966.photobucket.com/user/KingPerch/media/2013101495124143.jpg.html) I posted this on SNAGGER'S thread, thought I'd share with the 'Ol Farts!! ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 16, 2013, 05:04 PM
Smile Josh....ya look like HT!

Nice job!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 16, 2013, 05:34 PM
he's taller  and  better  looking  then  HT   nice  coho  josh
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: drowndin dots on Oct 16, 2013, 06:10 PM


  Yep. looks happy to meet JR too  :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Dec 09, 2013, 04:39 PM
Thought I would share my new obsession.  Been learning to drive a two hander.....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/fishing%202013/bow_zps9ab78399.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/fishing%202013/20131126_090312_resized_zps39d3c6d7.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/fishing%202013/trimmed_zps5f60f707.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/fishing%202013/swung_zps568ec355.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Dec 09, 2013, 05:39 PM
nice chrome gump :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Dec 22, 2013, 04:50 AM
 :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rakerdave on Dec 22, 2013, 10:59 AM
Nice pics grump . Is that Lamson kionic  2 reels put together  . Or did you  paint it . Or did it come like that .
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Dec 22, 2013, 05:36 PM
Thanks guys.  Will post new pics soon...

Dave,  yes it is a konic and that is the way it came.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Dec 24, 2013, 12:46 PM
MERRY X-MAS TO ALL YOU 'OL FARTS!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Jan 06, 2014, 09:33 AM
Seems to be a resurgence of glass in the fly fishing world.  Decided to play with a 40 year old Eagle Claw....

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: St.Croix.Boy on Jan 06, 2014, 11:50 AM
dude, you take some nice pics! where'd you catch the 'bow?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 18, 2014, 12:00 PM
I've got a Phillipson in the closet that I've never fished. Thing weighs a ton compared to my Axiom. I should probably do a refurbish on it and give it a whirl.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: kc on Feb 02, 2014, 03:00 PM
Here is some steelhead candy I have been working on. Do you think any of them will work?

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Feb 02, 2014, 05:43 PM
Quote
dude, you take some nice pics! where'd you catch the 'bow?

Thanks...I try.  The bow/steely was from Irondequoit Ck.

Quote
I've got a Phillipson in the closet that I've never fished. Thing weighs a ton compared to my Axiom. I should probably do a refurbish on it and give it a whirl.


Cool what weight?

KC...those will definitely work under the right conditions.   I favor the nymphs and bugger patterns during clear water conditions....the brighter egg patterns when color is a bit off.   The streamers swung once the water warms a few degrees....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 03, 2014, 02:01 AM
It's an 8 weight. Not really in too bad of condition either. I've also got an 8wt Orvis 4 pc. that was given to me. Never tried it.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 10, 2014, 01:39 PM
kc  i like the  nymphs  for  sure!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 28, 2014, 04:50 PM
Just checking in to see what my old f--t buddies are up to!!

Great looking flies and fish you guys!!

Hoping for some warmer weather to get the snow melted down so the streams will be in good shape for some flyfishing!! ;)

Bob, Hope things work out for an outting this year!! ;) Maybe get that other 'Ol F--t out with us too!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 28, 2014, 06:47 PM
i'm  ready  kp  in  fact  i  can't  wait  i think  we  need  a  trip  for  mr  bluegill  and  mr  crappie  once  the  ice  leaves
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 29, 2014, 02:26 AM
Busy working and building rods. I'm refurbishing a Phillipson Master for me (like I need another fly rod) and building an ultra light for a friend. I may go chase some gills this morning at a little flow on the canal. It's all water now and I need to toss a bobber/float around.

Time to put the Commando in the basement and hang the Toon in the garage  ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: shark on Mar 29, 2014, 04:08 AM
   "toss a" bobber/float" around"



    :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:   Politically correct. ;D ;D


Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 29, 2014, 01:41 PM
I try Mark ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: shark on Mar 29, 2014, 05:23 PM
   Hey Bob ,  I'm gonna dust my rod building stuff and put together a Fly Rod,  Something for pan fish. Probably a 4 or 5 wt. 2 piece. Going to be used mainly in the boat.

   I see you talk about Mudhole . I ordered some catalogs from various suppliers, What's a good blank, without taking a bank loan. I used to get Fenwick blanks from Cabelas. I don't even they sell blanks anymore.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 29, 2014, 06:44 PM
I don't buy from Mudhole any more. Last order I placed with them carried a 22% S&H charge. Almost $12 for stuff that fit in a small priority mail envelope for $4.Not to mention that I wasn't real happy with the last MHX blank I purchased from them. Cheap Chinese junk if you ask me. If I was building a rod for me, I'd get a Temple Fork Outfitters Finesse rod. I have one in 3wt and it's a peach of a rod. J. Stockard has kits that are affordable with excellent components.

TFO Finesse (http://www.jsflyfishing.com/tfo-finesse-fly-rod-kit-4-pc)
They're 4 pc, but don't let that dissuade you. Easier to carry. ;D
You would not be disappointed.
Let me know if you need anything else.

Bob

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 31, 2014, 04:49 AM
i need  fish rising!!!!!  i see shore line  around a  few places  ...the river will be  unfishable  today ......  hell  i  might even consider bullhead fishing  soon ......i  can't  complain i had  a  great  ice season  it's  the  inbetween time that i hate
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Mar 31, 2014, 09:54 AM
Surprised to hear that RG. I have had great luck with the MHX blanks I have used. Shipping does stink though...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 31, 2014, 06:44 PM
I won't build a rod blank with a whale in it.

Here's a Phillipson Master I just finished restoring for myself;

What it was;
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/3-31-2014/DSC01690_zps6749ecd1.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/3-31-2014/DSC01690_zps6749ecd1.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/3-31-2014/DSC01689_zps68aa8859.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/3-31-2014/DSC01689_zps68aa8859.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/3-31-2014/DSC01692_zpsc28b9df1.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/3-31-2014/DSC01692_zpsc28b9df1.jpg.html)

What it is now;
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/3-31-2014/DSC01695_zps0af7b06a.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/3-31-2014/DSC01695_zps0af7b06a.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/3-31-2014/DSC01696_zpsb63148aa.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/3-31-2014/DSC01696_zpsb63148aa.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/3-31-2014/DSC01693_zps4702789f.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/3-31-2014/DSC01693_zps4702789f.jpg.html)

Cleaned up  nice. Should be a good small stream bass/panfish rod. Long, slow action. I've got a reel and a 6wt Cortland Sylk DT to put on it. Cant wait. Love the old glass.

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Apr 01, 2014, 03:07 PM
Nice job RG!
Was super nice to bust out the fly rods today. Dad and I hit a few creeks and played with a half dozen browns. Most water was just a tad too murky but we found some fishable water...
This tiny creek is usually good for some holdovers in the 10-14inch range. First one I got today was 19!  ;D
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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Apr 01, 2014, 05:00 PM
nice job jay. we got alot of snow up here still and the creeks are like chocolate milk. had to work anyway  ::) ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 01, 2014, 05:14 PM
Thanks Jay. Always fun to bring some life back to an old stick.

I'll be up your way tomorrow HT. Need to start the guys on a job in Carthage. I traveled to New Hartford and back yesterday. All the water looked high and muddy. No matter to me anyway. I don't really start in streams till May anyway. They're still getting a good flushing right now.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 01, 2014, 05:18 PM
i need  fish rising!!!!!  i see shore line  around a  few places  ...the river will be  unfishable  today ......  hell  i  might even consider bullhead fishing  soon ......i  can't  complain i had  a  great  ice season  it's  the  inbetween time that i hate
Stock up on bobbers Trap!! ;D Think I'll be dusting the flyrod off this weekend, get some flies tied and, get the rest of the gear ready!! Jay gave Jr, some bead jigs and, a secret weapon that we need to start tying up for panfish on the fly!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Apr 01, 2014, 05:20 PM
nice job jay. we got alot of snow up here still and the creeks are like chocolate milk. had to work anyway  ::) ::)

We found an area  north and west of here where the small creeks weren't that bad...  ;D

Stock up on bobbers Trap!! ;D Think I'll be dusting the flyrod off this weekend, get some flies tied and, get the rest of the gear ready!! Jay gave Jr, some bead jigs and, a secret weapon that we need to start tying up for panfish on the fly!!--KP 8)

Enjoy!  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 01, 2014, 06:08 PM
Hmmmmmm! Secret weapon?

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Apr 01, 2014, 06:09 PM
Hmmmmmm! Secret weapon?

RG

Its all foggy but I believe you have some of the original prototypes...  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 01, 2014, 06:19 PM
Little tungsten headed things?

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Apr 01, 2014, 06:29 PM
Yep, and some tungsten caddis creations...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 01, 2014, 06:43 PM
Cool...now I don't feel left out  ;D
It's a good pattern.
Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 01, 2014, 08:20 PM
Cool...now I don't feel left out  ;D
It's a good pattern.
Rg
;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 03, 2014, 03:34 AM
KP,
I was up your way yesterday. Started the guys on a job in Carthage. There's a lot of snow left up there. I'll be wading in shorts and sandals before you guys are thawed out :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 03, 2014, 06:25 AM
The snow is melting slowly here Bob. That's a good thing, keeps the streams and river from blowing out. I'm constantly thinking about SNAGGER and the people near the Salmon River when Tug Hill starts to melt.  :-\ We'll keep our fingers crossed!  ;) Let me know the next time your close to my hometown....We'll do lunch!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 03, 2014, 06:15 PM
I have to go back up tomorrow, but it's gonna be a whirlwind tour. Plug in the computer, commission the system and beat feet back to base. The owner really hates paying me overtime ;D

Personally, I think it's good for his circulation and it really helps support my toy collection.

Bob
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 03, 2014, 06:52 PM
I have to go back up tomorrow, but it's gonna be a whirlwind tour. Plug in the computer, commission the system and beat feet back to base. The owner really hates paying me overtime ;D

Personally, I think it's good for his circulation and it really helps support my toy collection.  

Bob
;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 05, 2014, 03:24 PM
Thought you guys might like to see my Laser Alignment Invention for my rod lathe. I've been tinkering around with this idea for quite some time. The first prototype was less than satisfactory. The new setup is quite acceptable  ;D

I bought a Kobalt Laser Level from Lowes for $35. It shoots a flat line beam and has a magnetic base. Mounted a steel plate platform with adjustments and ......Voila'.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/4-5-2014/DSC01700_zpsc9921967.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/4-5-2014/DSC01700_zpsc9921967.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/4-5-2014/DSC01701_zps2c221cac.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/4-5-2014/DSC01701_zps2c221cac.jpg.html)

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Now I can line up guides flawlessly without removing the rod from the lathe.

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: kc on Apr 05, 2014, 04:53 PM
nice idea. at first was wondering why you needed a laser level for rod building. after reading the last line I understand now.
kc
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 05, 2014, 05:32 PM
Yeah KC, I stink at lining guides up by eye. When I worked as a gunsmith apprentice, I couldn't get a scope on square either. Always had to use the bore sight to get it close.  :-\

Must be my astigmatism :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on Apr 05, 2014, 07:03 PM
RG,

I have no doubt you also have a  flux capacitor in your shop. You do it all.

I have an old Fenwick glass rod from my youth that needs new guides that I'd love to have it  back in action. I'll look you up next winter for an additional project.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 06, 2014, 02:25 AM
I'm working on that Flux Capacitor Bart.

(http://www.walyou.com/img/back_to_the_future_flux_capacitor_2.jpg)

I figure that 1.21 Jigawatts will turn my rod wrapper at 22,000,000 rpm cutting my wrapping time down from a couple hours to 12 nano seconds. It may have an application for the drying box as well. My biggest concern is the rod blank will vaporize at that speed. Trim wraps may be a problem as well :-\

That would be a fun restoration Bart. I have an FF856 Ferrulite that I found a couple of years ago in mint condition. By far one of my all time favorite sticks. That model was my first fly rod. I totally wore it out. I'm still searching for a 6' ultralight ferrulite spinning rod . My first build was on that blank. The tip flew off into Sodus bay many years ago never to be found. Broke my heart. I fished that rod for more hours than I can count. Like losing an old friend.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Apr 06, 2014, 08:05 PM
Dad and I got out yesterday morning for a little. Creeks are still up and murky but fishable. Picked up two each then headed home...
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Cold and crappy yesterday... Nice today = playing outside  ;D
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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Apr 06, 2014, 10:17 PM
great pics! streams here are a bit high yet. Can't wait for lower water. Do you need some Zebcos for the little guys?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 07, 2014, 02:26 PM
Your kids are growing fast Jay!! Great pics! Congrats to You and Your Pop on a nice catch!! :thumbup_smilie:--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Apr 09, 2014, 07:08 PM
Kids are growing up fast. Jay. Rigged up my fly rods today. Cleaned the lines and new leaders. Ready for the opener here on Saturday  :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 10, 2014, 01:32 AM
Drove up  19 from Wellsville along the Genny yesterday eyeballing some prospective access points . It might settle down enough to fish by the end of June. :-\

I haven't even gotten the fly rods out except to refurbish the old Phillipson. I'll be chasing panfish for a bit yet ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: EasternCentralNY21 on Apr 10, 2014, 02:59 AM
why is it taking so long for the water to go down?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: BudMan on Apr 10, 2014, 05:29 AM
They are slowly calming down. There's still snowpack in higher elevations and ice melting off lakes. Mix that with a little rain and you'll have high water everywhere.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Deadeyez on Apr 10, 2014, 06:28 AM
why is it taking so long for the water to go down?
my guess would be snow melt along with the ground being saturated
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: EasternCentralNY21 on Apr 10, 2014, 11:53 AM
Obviously haha but the snow is gone around here. Hopefully they will start dropping the mettawee has a ton of ice left..
Haven't seen any bugs yet.. Hopefully soon. Well good luck guys
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 10, 2014, 09:09 PM
water  runs  down hill!  so  any stream  or  river  is  effected  by  whats  happening  upstream  ...  on  oswego  river   for  example it  is  effected  by  what  happens  in the  finger lakes  and  the  oneida  watershed  which  is  effected    by  the   run  off  of  higher  elevations  .....  the  water  actually  rose  another   2  foot in  fulton the  other  day placing  the  bulk  heads  under water  .....   
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 11, 2014, 12:08 AM
Got the day off trap. Gift from the Boss ;D  I'm hitting s couple of "Crappie" spots I visit in the spring then maybe a couple of the early sunfish hangouts. Woke up a bit ago and can't get bask to sleep. Excited like a little kid ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 11, 2014, 05:49 AM
Enjoy yourself out there today Bob! You deserve it!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Apr 11, 2014, 06:03 AM
Bob...We want pictures!!! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 11, 2014, 03:29 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/photo_zps088313c3.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/photo_zps088313c3.jpg.html)


No quantity of sunnies....just these stupid perch ;D ;D

You're right Larry, I did deserve it.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: popnfish on Apr 11, 2014, 03:36 PM
nice catch there RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 11, 2014, 03:57 PM
WTG my friend!! :thumbup_smilie: Those stupid perch are VERY good table fare as well!!! ;) Glad You were able to make the best of a very nice day!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Apr 11, 2014, 04:48 PM
nice perch RG ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 11, 2014, 04:49 PM
Thanks guys. It sure was fun. Nothin' like fishin' the docks with the "Old Farts".

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Apr 12, 2014, 09:13 PM
Opening day of PA trout! Dad and I headed south and had a nice morning. Caught a bunch of small brookies and a slob brown.

Freddy - I know you like my early morning brown trout txts. Went to send you a picture of this one and my phone was dead...
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/jayvassil/P4120718_zps79b18e24.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 13, 2014, 04:23 PM
 Nice brown Jay!!  ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: BudMan on Apr 13, 2014, 09:07 PM
That is one nice looking brown. Well done.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Apr 18, 2014, 05:17 AM
 :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Apr 18, 2014, 07:34 AM


yes DC they are my fave and that 1 is a beauty for sure
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 18, 2014, 07:10 PM
nice  brown  ...rg  nice  perch  , some  nice  gills  coming  from the  marinas up this way  ,perfect  nymph  time ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 19, 2014, 02:14 AM
I'm going out today Trap. Gonna load up the boat a little later and hit some springtime areas on the canal.

Hey, I'll be joining you old retired farts at the end of August. I made the announcement at work yesterday. Gonna get off the road and pester the fish till I'm too old to walk. I'll do some side work to keep the mind and body in shape, but the old Bucket truck will be a thing of the past.  I was wrestling a 1000 watt fixture (that weighed like a small piano) off a light pole the other day 30' up in the air . I told the owner that those were a 2 man job. He said to me "It's a young man's game". I asked if he'd like to take a shot at arm wrestling me (he's 15 years younger than I), he declined and I told him I was retiring. I hadn't really thought about it to tell the truth. Guess it was just his attitude that created my moment of clarity.

For some reason I woke up with a huge smile today. I believe I'll take an extra long run this morning ;D

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: masoneddie on Apr 19, 2014, 03:51 AM
Best of luck with your fishing and CONGRATULATIONS on your retirement RG!!   :clapping: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: H.T. on Apr 19, 2014, 05:20 AM
congrate Bob. you have certainly put alot of time in and deserve a nice retirement. good luck out there on the water. the fish are in big trouble now 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Apr 19, 2014, 05:41 AM
Bob...Oh yeah, with all that new free time the sheepshead are in really big trouble now!  Congrats.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Apr 19, 2014, 07:21 AM
Thanks all for the fish and kids comments....

Awesome news RG! Congrats!!!  :clapping: :clapping: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Apr 19, 2014, 07:31 AM
Congratulations Bob...   :thumbup_smilie:
My wife says I have been retired since we got married.... ::) ::) ::)

Thanks guys. My Bride has wondered about that too Dom. They sure have some strange perceptions. ::)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Apr 19, 2014, 12:25 PM
Welcome to the club, Bob! Your goin' to love it.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 19, 2014, 02:49 PM


 :thumbup_smilie: congrats
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: kc on Apr 19, 2014, 03:22 PM
congrats on the retirement. Don't back out at the last minute. You will wonder why you waited this long.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: one last cast on Apr 19, 2014, 04:13 PM
Congrats rgfixit! Looks like we'll have a new thread to look at when you do actually retire "rgfixit's odds and ends" ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 19, 2014, 04:50 PM
Welcome to the club, Bob! Your goin' to love it.
Maybe I can finally get some trout lessons from an experienced fly fisher ;D

KC,
You could stand me up at the gates of hell
But I won't back down ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 19, 2014, 06:33 PM
Congratulations Bob!! :thumbup_smilie: You've done Your time..now, go enjoy Your time!! ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 19, 2014, 06:36 PM
hey  bob  can you  grab that  boom   ...KP  and  I  could  get  our  bobbers  back  plus  use  it  for a  deer  stand
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 19, 2014, 06:46 PM
hey  bob  can you  grab that  boom   ...KP  and  I  could  get  our  bobbers  back  plus  use  it  for a  deer  stand
:rotflol: :thumbup_smilie: Might I add...Bob is retiring Trap! No way are we going to get him to run that bucket truck for us!! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 19, 2014, 07:03 PM
I was thinking of giving some casting lessons instead. Booms are gonna be history. 134 days and counting ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: kc on Apr 19, 2014, 08:24 PM
I was thinking of giving some casting lessons instead. Booms are gonna be history. 134 days and counting ;D

Rg

they will go quick, but not as quick as the days after retirement. Can't believe where the times goes since I retired. That was 2 years ago.
kc
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 20, 2014, 07:38 PM
133 days and counting.... ;D I need some fine tuning on my casting.... ;)--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Apr 20, 2014, 07:45 PM


congrats Bob :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 21, 2014, 04:15 PM
Thanks Fred.

I know a pretty good trainer KP ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 21, 2014, 04:58 PM
132 days.... ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 21, 2014, 05:56 PM
I have the feeling I'm not gonna make it that far. End of July is looking better every minute.

While traveling the Southern tier towards Corning today and couldn't keep my eyes on the road for all the fine looking streams and rivers I crossed. I've fished the area all my life, but in fits and starts. A days in a row camping and fishing will feed my soul. I can hardly wait.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 22, 2014, 02:36 AM
I  swear  I  was  a  young man  yesterday  ,woke  up  gray  and  sore  .....but  ya  know  I  sure  wouldn't trade  any of  it  the  good  nor the  bad  .....I have  a  great family i'm  proud  of  and  grand  kids that  make  me  feel  young, wonderful  friends and  fellow  sportsman ,  I've  killed  some  honest  trophy  deer   with  bow  gun  and  black  powder  ,  hell  before  there  were  special  seasons  even ....more  fish then I can  count .....  I  got  to see  the salmon  fishery  come  and  even  helped  in the  first  few  years  of  stocking  ...I seen the  coyotes  come!   the  turkeys   and  my  favorite  the  bald  eagle  (old  farts  ,who  would  have  imagined  in  NY  we  would   be  fishing  and  see  a  bald  eagle)  I  seen  the  bears  expand  along  with the  fisher  .....  and  I  pounded   some  fish in my  time  ....... I must  be  Gods  favorite ,because  he   sure  gave  me  my  wildest dreams........ya  got  to love  it  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Pequod1 on Apr 22, 2014, 04:22 AM
I don't ever post here but your post Trapper stopped me in my tracks. You summed it up perfectly. Thanks
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 22, 2014, 05:34 PM
Hey Trapper,
 I did some recalculations. Only 78 working days left!

(http://lazula.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/homer_woohoo.jpg)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on Apr 22, 2014, 05:40 PM
Belated congrats RG.  Hope your retirement fund allows you to continue to buy more toys.  ;D

Now you can really get to use the 400,000 flies you tied.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 22, 2014, 06:07 PM
Thanks Bart,
Part of my retirement plan was to accumulate enough toys to last until Rapture. Pretty sure I have that many. I know I have enough flies ;D I might have to visit sometime.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 23, 2014, 09:42 AM
fly rod and a  smile  ...bout all ya  need really  ....cold  heiny  once in awhile
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: SKUNK-MASTER on Apr 23, 2014, 01:09 PM
sounds good to me.......but who wants their butt to get cold? ;D :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 23, 2014, 03:34 PM
fly rod and a  smile  ...bout all ya  need really  ....cold  heiny  once in awhile
I'm covered Trapper, on all 3 counts ;D

Just so you know, I WILL have a kayak by the time I abandon the work-a-day life. I'll need some expert lessons from a suitably old and knowledgeable ...fart. Question is.....sit on or sit in?


RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 23, 2014, 08:09 PM
well  that  depends  on  you  and  you  comfort  levels  I  enjoy  both   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 24, 2014, 02:47 AM
I guess I was looking for the good and bad of each from a fishing perspective. Seems like the open models are more geared toward fishing options as far as storage, rod holders, bait wells, anchor points etc.

The marina on the canal down the road from my house rents them and often does demos in association with LL Bean. I'll hit one of those and try a couple.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: duke14 on Apr 24, 2014, 07:06 AM
I have a sit in and love it,had mine bout 4 years now,havnt got wet yet,(great now i just jinxxed myself,lol)
(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz285/redipsekud/12914979-5ec8-4a15-81cf-11d731b79ec9.jpg) (http://s836.photobucket.com/user/redipsekud/media/12914979-5ec8-4a15-81cf-11d731b79ec9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 24, 2014, 05:48 PM
considerations   are  what  water  what  temps  your  fishing  in   wet  suit  or  waders  on?  now  I  can  eskimo  roll  well  at  least  I  could  2  years  ago  ....  trouble  is  add  a  rod   strap  a  bag  on  and  some  goodies  and  it  doesn't  roll  back  so  easy !  so  you  got  to  bale  out  roll  it  back  and  get  back in  .....  the  sit  on  is  much  easier  to  roll  back  over  and  get  back  on   it's  easier  to  rig  and  it's  enjoyable    in  cold  weather  I  weat   a  wet  suit  but  neop.  waders  work .....  all in  all I  like  the  sit  on  it's  easy to  get  on  off   it's  easy  to  roll back  and  get  on  even  in  rougher water  plenty  of  room  and  your  legs  can  better  in  warm  weather
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 25, 2014, 06:13 PM
I'm headed for the stream tomorrow morning. I have no expectations whatsoever. Problem is....which rod to take ???


74 working days til retirement  ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 29, 2014, 05:25 PM
we  can't  get a  break  with the  weather  .........
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Apr 29, 2014, 05:32 PM
we  can't  get a  break  with the  weather  .........



      Leaving for our spring Adirondack trip tomorrow to sleep in some leanto's...   >:(
But I'm going no matter what mother throws at me... ;D ;D
See you sunday with fish pictures.... ;) ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 29, 2014, 06:25 PM


      Leaving for our spring Adirondack trip tomorrow to sleep in some leanto's...   >:(
But I'm going no matter what mother throws at me... ;D ;D
See you sunday with fish pictures.... ;) ;)

be  safe  and  good  luck  dack
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 29, 2014, 06:57 PM


      Leaving for our spring Adirondack trip tomorrow to sleep in some leanto's...   >:(
But I'm going no matter what mother throws at me... ;D ;D
See you sunday with fish pictures.... ;) ;)
Have fun and stay warm Dom!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Apr 29, 2014, 09:44 PM


      Leaving for our spring Adirondack trip tomorrow to sleep in some leanto's...   >:(
But I'm going no matter what mother throws at me... ;D ;D
See you sunday with fish pictures.... ;) ;)

Have fun and good luck, Dom.  I think I'd pack LJs and a tuque... ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 30, 2014, 01:40 AM
At least you should be safe from the black flies and skeeters Dom. Roast a marshmallow for me!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: adkRoy on May 01, 2014, 06:18 AM
Fly-tying workshop at the Adirondack Museum in case anyone is interested:

http://www.adkmuseum.org/exhibits_and_events/special_events/detail/?id=418 (http://www.adkmuseum.org/exhibits_and_events/special_events/detail/?id=418)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 19, 2014, 04:30 AM
well  back from camp  computor  de  bugged  and  fish taking  foam  :D  life is  good  ...ps  rock bass on flyrods   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 19, 2014, 05:22 PM
Managed to get out with the fly chaser on vacation. Got this guy on my second cast.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fish_zps62472fda.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/fish_zps62472fda.jpg.html)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 20, 2014, 04:21 AM
RG  thats not a  rock bass! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 20, 2014, 06:31 PM
Can't figure how largemouth get into this section of stream. They're natives as there's a slough that they simply cannot pass between my spot and the canal.

Fun on the 3wt though.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 21, 2014, 02:28 AM
On my tour to Binghamton and back yesterday I passed by many streams and rivers. Most are still un-fishable, but they're coming down and getting there. I'm really itching.......... :-\

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 21, 2014, 10:09 AM
i been fishing my super secret rock duke spot  .....................  and  then i spot  ....andrew  ....oh yeah   andrew  was  sitting  right on  top of  my  spot  anchored  in  my  spot!  catching  my  fish !  i was shocked  ....not that  he  was  spot  stealing  but that he  was  actually  catching  fish! i  moved  around  till i  found  fish  and  guess  what ?  he  moved  right on  top of  me!  i  was  so upset i had  to leave ......  there  was  witnesses  but  i'm  not  going to menion  any  names .....i  took my  3  rockbass  and  left  pushed  out  ......oh well  maybe  he won't go back  and hog  anymore of my fish ....................... it's tough  getting old  >:(
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 21, 2014, 04:07 PM
Andrew??????

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on May 21, 2014, 05:15 PM
i been fishing my super secret rock duke spot  .....................  and  then i spot  ....andrew  ....oh yeah   andrew  was  sitting  right on  top of  my  spot  anchored  in  my  spot!  catching  my  fish !  i was shocked  ....not that  he  was  spot  stealing  but that he  was  actually  catching  fish! i  moved  around  till i  found  fish  and  guess  what ?  he  moved  right on  top of  me!  i  was  so upset i had  to leave ......  there  was  witnesses  but  i'm  not  going to menion  any  names .....i  took my  3  rockbass  and  left  pushed  out  ......oh well  maybe  he won't go back  and hog  anymore of my fish ....................... it's tough  getting old  >:(

Yea...I'm sure he was hogging YOUR FISH. Were you fishing public water?  If so, that's the brakes so get over it... :(

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 21, 2014, 05:46 PM
Kinda quick on the trigger. Pretty sure Trapper's just bustin chops there.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on May 21, 2014, 06:18 PM
Kinda quick on the trigger. Pretty sure Trapper's just bustin chops there.

RG

And I'm supposed to know that? Seemed like a lot of peeing and moaning to me.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 21, 2014, 07:20 PM
wanna  go  google  H U M O R  .....

well i  went  back  to  my  super  secret  "PRIVATE" lake spot   reserved  for  only  raking members  of  the  elite old farts  with  flyrod club  members  .......  little  slower  today  but  i  still  got  a  good  work out  with the  flyrod  ......was  kinda  a  shame  catch  wasn't  ...................i  needed  someone  to  run  for  coffee  ....oh  if  anyone   has  been  fishing  the  super  secret "PRIVATE"  rock  duke  spot  and  left of  lost a  tackle  box  i  found  it  and  it's  with the  guard   just  stop  and  tell him .....

catch you missed a  good day buddy  ....... 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 21, 2014, 07:23 PM
Kinda quick on the trigger. Pretty sure Trapper's just bustin chops there.

RG
wouldn't have 'Ol Trap any other way!! ;) 25 lashings on Andrew for hoggin' an 'ol buzzards rockies, and for not being there today to run for the 'ol buzzard's coffee!!!!!  :rotflol: :w00t:;D That there is H U M O R!! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 21, 2014, 07:27 PM
wouldn't have 'Ol Trap any other way!! ;) 25 lashings on Andrew for hoggin' an 'ol buzzards rockies, and for not being there today to run for the 'ol buzzard's coffee!!!!!  :rotflol: :w00t:;D That there is H U M O R!! ;D

you  got that  right  kp  kid   ...... :thumbup_smilie:

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on May 21, 2014, 07:34 PM
And I'm supposed to know that? Seemed like a lot of peeing and moaning to me.

WK

Just...... don't   read his....    jibberish.. I   have a   hard time..     understanding   it....... feel like   im gonna throw a    seizure  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 21, 2014, 07:49 PM
wow  get  a  secret   spot  for  rock  bass  and  pick on  catch em a  bit  and   guys  are   getting  all  red   ......makes  me  wonder   how bad  they  would  act  over a  crappie  spot   :rotflol: :rotflol:

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 22, 2014, 01:54 AM
Now I gotcha. That kid is gonna fish you under the boat Trapper. He's a machine!

The older you get the better you understand gibberish Jay.......and yes it's also spelled with a "G"  ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 22, 2014, 05:44 AM
yeah rg catchem  was  pulling  some  fish  ....  we  had a  good  time  and  alot  of  laughs  ....  most  at  catches  expense

headed back down this morning hope the  rain holds off

ROCK BASS ......it's whats  for  dinner  ;D

and i  caught two that spit up gobies  :laugh:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 22, 2014, 05:04 PM
so so  day   on the  secret spot today  ....  was a day  when  the  flyrod  got used  less and  bait and  jigs  took over! started out nice the fog and super cold!  then it warmed back up i ended up with more then enough for diner but it was slow and easier to use spinning  equipment ....  i  left early  when the thunder  got close  but i'll be back in the morning
 ;D

ps  andrews  cus was there  ...nice guy he  wasn't in my spot and never  touched my  fish  ,unlike  someone  else   :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 22, 2014, 06:08 PM
There's a lot worse people you could fish around than Chief. He's a good sort.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 22, 2014, 06:37 PM
There's a lot worse people you could fish around than Chief. He's a good sort.

RG

shhhhhhh  rg  lets  not swell the  young bloods  head   ;D

but we have been having alot of  fun  catching  a  whole  lot of fish no one else  really wants   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 22, 2014, 07:38 PM
Many's the year when I chased the Duke on Oak Orchard, I-Bay and Sodus. Not to mention the several odd creeks I know that hold some beauties.

Just wait Trap. 8/31/2014 is my retirement date. 59 working days left

(http://slashfiction.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/gif-happy-dance.gif)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 24, 2014, 09:26 PM
i had  to make  a  major  assault   on my  super  duper   top  secret rock duke fishing  area  ....  first of  all  the  guys  trolling lake  ontario i  felt  bad  seeing  fog that  thick  ,glad i didn't hear of any mishaps!!!!  ok  back  to real  fishing  fly rods and  rockies ! i  made a  move  on  a  secret  sunken barge  and  the  fish  were  stacked  on it   whit  and  olive  clousers  with a  black  back  was  my  main  ticket  along  with  a  brown  ....  i noticed  two  things  the  dukes been  chewing on ...crayfish  and  gobies  .....  i  pulled  fish  steady  all morning  once  i  filled  a  fish  basket  to  where  it  wouldn't hold  no  more  i  was  tossing  them  back  ......  

so  for  diner  it  was  sorta  surf  and  turf   grilled  or  deep  fried  and   no one  left hungry   ;D

a  special prayer   to all those  that  gave  everything  ......  we  will never  forget
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: jboggey on May 25, 2014, 05:43 AM
Bob, take it from me. Retirement is not the all end all. Sweet for the first year, but the other old coggers don't want to go out with you every day and the grand kids have to go to school. Trapper never calls. You gettin the drift of this conversation? It seems I almost enjoy getting a call to do some consulting, knowing it is short term and I can earn enough "HIDDEN" money that Sweeta-Rita doesn't know about to buy more fishing equipment. Are you reading this trap?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 25, 2014, 01:48 PM
Well Jim, I have a pretty good group of old retired friends. We see each other most every day for breakfast at least. Truth be told I'm pretty much a loner anyway. I fish alone 99.9% of the time. Socializing while fishing is fun once in a while. On average though, I'd rather fish with me more than anyone I know. I understand me......I agree with me........I don't talk politics, sex or religion with me......I don't b***h about my wife to me..........I don't complain about my boss to me either.

I'm never late for fishing with me...... I can always decide where I want to go fishing with me........I can stay as long as I want to. ...and I always buy me breakfast ;D

Works for me ;D

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 25, 2014, 06:59 PM
boogey  i  can't call any of my old fishing buddys  my  cell took na  dip  and i replaced it losing everyones number  ........ this week end  family  is  up from down south and  enjoying  grand kids  now  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: jboggey on May 26, 2014, 02:36 PM
I half understand what you are saying RG. Most of the time I enjoy the grand kids, once in-a-while my younger brother, rarely, my sons and once in a blue moon my grand daughter will bless me with her presence. I guess I am more about passing my love of fishing on to others, especially the grand kids and I know from your previous posts you too enjoy your grand son. All that being said, my olf art bud Trap has not gotten in touch with me about our river fishin trip yet. Check your pm Trap. Phone # is included bud.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 26, 2014, 05:06 PM
I hear you Jim. Just spent the afternoon with my Daughter, Grandson and Son-in law. Priceless time for sure.

I did however get to the stream this morning to test my newest fly creation;

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/photo_zps1d6c3945.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/photo_zps1d6c3945.jpg.html)

One little largemouth on a fly that I tied using a rod and reel from decades ago is just as priceless.

Life is a mix of what you like to do, what you want to do, what you need to do and what you have to do. The secrets are to balance those elements in a way that doesn't drive you crazy and to live as long as you possibly can.

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on May 26, 2014, 07:56 PM
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj204/wiredstone/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps0fbd13ab.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 26, 2014, 08:58 PM
last  two days i spent  with my  grand kids  from florida  ................. i learned about tranformers  and  babydolls ,about what  hot dogs are made of ,about  camping with a church group  about  two kids i missed more then  oxygen  and  how tight they can hug .........  yeah  life is good ;D

boog i'll be  calling ya  in a  day or so  buddy 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 27, 2014, 08:52 AM
i had  a  great  week end and  from the bottom of my heart i thank those  that  gave   all so my family and myself would be free to enjoyit!

i know  am  setting  here thinking  back on a most exciting  but to short of a weekend!

first  there was  rock bass action!!!!!

(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/rockbass_zps91e3e798.jpg)

then there was a new pro shooter in my family ranks showing off her stuff

(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/imagejpeg_0_zps05534d7b.jpg)



then i got to pass  down something i been saving for a young man for many years
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/danny_zpsc1c2fe2b.jpg)

forgive a  old fart  for  bragging abit  but i'm a  lucky man and i thank the dear lord  for that 

life is good....real good  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 27, 2014, 03:52 PM
wow  get  a  secret   spot  for  rock  bass  and  pick on  catch em a  bit  and   guys  are   getting  all  red   ......makes  me  wonder   how bad  they  would  act  over a  crappie  spot   :rotflol: :rotflol:


You just wait till you and chief start smashing the white perch..... ;D :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 27, 2014, 04:07 PM
And the Pickerel ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 27, 2014, 04:12 PM
And the Pickerel ;D

RG
;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on May 27, 2014, 10:19 PM
wanna  go  google  H U M O R  .....

well i  went  back  to  my  super  secret  "PRIVATE" lake spot   reserved  for  only  raking members  of  the  elite old farts  with  flyrod club  members  .......  little  slower  today  but  i  still  got  a  good  work out  with the  flyrod  ......was  kinda  a  shame  catch  wasn't  ...................i  needed  someone  to  run  for  coffee  ....oh  if  anyone   has  been  fishing  the  super  secret "PRIVATE"  rock  duke  spot  and  left of  lost a  tackle  box  i  found  it  and  it's  with the  guard   just  stop  and  tell him .....

catch you missed a  good day buddy  .......  

So tell me, if I own more than 3 fly rods of varying lengths and weights, and, ... I am less than 60 but more than 50 years old and fish with those rods, do I qualify as a member of the "old farts with fly rods" club?.... Also, I think you meant ranking, not raking.
(see Spell Check at bottom... next to Preview when you post)

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on May 28, 2014, 05:32 AM
Great pictures of the grand kids Trapp.. :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 28, 2014, 08:10 AM
being a  member  often  depends  on  what  you  bring  for   shore  lunches  the  beer  you  drink  and  what  flies  you  share   ;D

remeber were a very  exclusive  club  ......  and  i  don't  need  spell  check you need  read  check  ..... strike  one!


  dack  ty  was a  great  week end  for  me  ,  hoping to  get  south  and  do  some  bass  fishing  with  the  young man   soon   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 28, 2014, 05:30 PM
Great pics of the kids Trapper.

Hey that fly works on rockies too  ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/fish1_zps3c628301.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/fish1_zps3c628301.jpg.html)


RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 30, 2014, 10:01 AM
been pounding  panfish  every morning  2  things i learned   RG  yes  rock bass like  your  fly!   and  2  taking  pictures  and  working a  fly  rod  is  tough  ....so i  switched back and  forth  today  from  fly  rod  to spining! 

ohhhhh  someone knocking on my  door ....BOBBER DOWN!
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/securedownloadjjmmk_zpseb3086f6.jpg)



and  the  fight  is  on! 
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/securedownloadjutr_zps3224eb10.jpg)



the trill of  victory!

(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/33445_zpsddfc5ea3.jpg)


now  he  joins  his  friends
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/securedownloadhuyj_zpsa1bdaf73.jpg)

the  grand slam!
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/securedownloadcswqa_zpse79e98cb.jpg)

life  is  good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 30, 2014, 03:51 PM
Hey....a variety pack ;D

A very good friend just gave me an Orvis battenkill impregnated bamboo to test out for him. This thing is pristine and I'm scared to death to take it to the stream. But....he insisted that I give it a cast, so, tomorrow morning I'm gonna take a deep breath and try it out on some panfish.

I built him a rod a while back and he wants another. He asked me to size a reel and line for the Orvis for him. I have a few to try, but I think the WF6F Cortland Sylk is gonna be the one.

I chose a Leland Vintage Series Golden Trout reel for him.
(http://www.lelandfly.com/Leland-Reel-Co-Vintage-Golden-Trout-Fly-Reel-image.jpg)

I think it will fit the rod to a "T".

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 30, 2014, 07:04 PM
RG  i  think  so  hey  if  you  can  get  some  pictures  of  the  rod :) 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on May 30, 2014, 09:59 PM
Enjoy the Orvis, RG.  I think that's cool!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 31, 2014, 06:55 AM
Hey!! I was wondering where all my bobbers went!!  ;D LOL!! Nice grand slam Trap!! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 31, 2014, 11:41 AM
my official  report today   5 crappies  and 72 rock bass!
rod ...9 ft  5 wt  st  croix  line aircell rocket taper 
location .....super secert  hiden spot!

the  day  starts out with me  tieing on a  clouser ...2x  size 8 mustad with a strike  indicator
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/v_zps1836de31.jpg)
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/securedownloadm_zpse3769105.jpg)

this is what it looks like after about  50 rock bass
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/securedownloadx_zpsd51de2ba.jpg)

wasn't long  until  we had  a bend in the  rod 
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/securedownloadpp_zpsa91d042b.jpg)

really was a  wonderful  morning  and i  even  got to use  my red neck live well  ;D
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/securedownloadhyhmm_zpsc15f33ff.jpg)
fish fry tonight
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 31, 2014, 01:20 PM
Fun stuff Trapper!

Here's the Orvis;
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/5-31-2014/DSC01729_zpsebcea9d3.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/5-31-2014/DSC01729_zpsebcea9d3.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/5-31-2014/DSC01730_zpsc047518d.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/5-31-2014/DSC01730_zpsc047518d.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/5-31-2014/DSC01731_zps8f179cbe.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/5-31-2014/DSC01731_zps8f179cbe.jpg.html)



RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 31, 2014, 02:47 PM
TRAPPER SMACKIN' THE DUKES!!!!  :flex: Good stuff Trap!! I know that hidden secret spot...... ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 31, 2014, 04:13 PM
sweet  RG  !!!!  i'd  be  afraid  to  fish  with it  myself  ! 

KP  noooooo  it's  a  super  secret  spot  hiden  from  view  few people have  ever seen it .....well except  during harbor fest  maybe  :rotflol:

RG  i decided  i like  catching alot  more then fishing  and  the  dukes  are more then willing to play  i must  have caught  500  in the past week  i did   toss a muddler  at a gar pike and had him chase it a few times  ! 

well  i that a  new  recipe  for  rock bass  ...fry daddy  on grill   corn roastin  coffee in  hand   and  bocephus on  the  cd player

life  is  good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 31, 2014, 05:31 PM
Kindred spirits, we are Trap ;D

Sausage on the grill, Keb Mo' on the player + a little Absolut and Ruby red in the Mason Jar ;D

I'm gonna go pester the bass and drum on the canal in the AM. My backyard stream was a total bust today. 4 hours of nothing.......nothing!

I think they all got swept downstream with the last big flood.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 31, 2014, 06:00 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/photo4_zpsd1a65e6d.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/photo4_zpsd1a65e6d.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/photo5_zpsf051397c.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/photo5_zpsf051397c.jpg.html)

I forgot about my "New Potato Salad".

MMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmm ;D

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 31, 2014, 08:19 PM
RG  think i'm  going  to  ty up  a  few  of  these   ;D

http://globalflyfisher.com/patterns/tabou-daddy/ (http://globalflyfisher.com/patterns/tabou-daddy/)

looks simple  yet effective  with lots of  room to change things
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 01, 2014, 01:42 AM
I like it. Simple, and as you said....lots of room for variations. I'd skip the mono eyes though. Those are for the fisherman, not the fish.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 01, 2014, 04:17 AM
yup .........but they look cool  :laugh:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Jun 01, 2014, 12:35 PM
Hey RG. . . Last night at an auction I scored a Shakespeare Presidential Wonderod FY-920 7'-0 with the tube (label still on tube, too) for 17.50.  The sock is missing, but overall I'd have to give it a "Very Good" condition.  I've got a couple of questions for you.  Where might I find a replacement sock, or what material would it have been made from?  And how would you clean it (the rod) to maybe make it white (it's a little cream colored now) again?

I can't wait to match it up to a reel and line and try it.  It's light as a feather!  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 01, 2014, 01:21 PM
very nice  find and  price  ...and they are  light at  3 1/2  oz  thats  good  for a  50 year old rod! 

http://antiquerodandreels.com/mfg_s/shakespeare.html# (http://antiquerodandreels.com/mfg_s/shakespeare.html#)

sweet rod  ...wanna  double your  money on it!   oh the  sock  for that was a  blue  colored cloth
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 01, 2014, 04:10 PM
Had some fun with the bass on the fly this morning...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/6-1-2014/DSC01736_zps1e4e999b.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/6-1-2014/DSC01736_zps1e4e999b.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/6-1-2014/DSC01735_zps5223f88d.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/6-1-2014/DSC01735_zps5223f88d.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/6-1-2014/DSC01734_zps3e70411c.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/6-1-2014/DSC01734_zps3e70411c.jpg.html)

And then....this thing hit the clouser. I believe it to be the extremely rare "Rhinopikesaurus"

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/6-1-2014/DSC01733_zpsc51dba02.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/6-1-2014/DSC01733_zpsc51dba02.jpg.html)

Never seen anything like it.

How would I clean that glass rod???
Very carefully!

Start with 50% Isopropyl alcohol and a soft cloth. Stay away from the wraps, they'll turn milky if they come in contact with the alcohol. Use a soft cloth to start and go to paper towel if more abrasion is needed. Step up to 91% if necessary. Dawn and hot water should clean up the grip. Alcohol will get out any deep stains.

Just go slowly!

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jun 01, 2014, 04:28 PM
Way to go RG...  I'm heading out now.... ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 01, 2014, 04:40 PM
Have fun Dom. They're very cooperative right now ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 01, 2014, 07:43 PM
looks like a  nice  day  RG  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Jun 02, 2014, 08:02 AM
very nice  find and  price  ...and they are  light at  3 1/2  oz  thats  good  for a  50 year old rod! 

http://antiquerodandreels.com/mfg_s/shakespeare.html# (http://antiquerodandreels.com/mfg_s/shakespeare.html#)

sweet rod  ...wanna  double your  money on it!   oh the  sock  for that was a  blue  colored cloth
Thanks for the offer, Trapper.  :) I've got to cast it first....  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Jun 02, 2014, 08:11 AM
.....

How would I clean that glass rod???
Very carefully!

Start with 50% Isopropyl alcohol and a soft cloth. Stay away from the wraps, they'll turn milky if they come in contact with the alcohol. Use a soft cloth to start and go to paper towel if more abrasion is needed. Step up to 91% if necessary. Dawn and hot water should clean up the grip. Alcohol will get out any deep stains.

Just go slowly!

RG
Thanks RG.  The grip really isn't too awful bad, the rod just looks a little dingy.  I'll give it a try some rainy day, maybe with just the Dawn and water first to see what happens.  What kind of a value might it have?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jun 02, 2014, 11:53 AM
Fellow Oldf--ts,

Well... I was perusing my Cabela's fly fishing catalog last Friday and I noticed that there was a promo going on until May 31st with $5 flat rate shipping. Then I remembered that I still had a Cabela's gift cert. my Daughter had given me for Xmas 2012. A brief phone call and I now have one of these on it's way...

http://www.tforods.com/fly-fishing/rods/signature.html#.U4ylgVJOVjo (http://www.tforods.com/fly-fishing/rods/signature.html#.U4ylgVJOVjo)

I still have my vintage glass Fenwick FF806 but I thought the TFO 9' 6wt rod might be a nice addition to the lineup. I'll probably use it on some of the larger streams I fish with heavier nymphs and streamers and use it for Smallies on the Susky as well.  ;D

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jun 02, 2014, 12:05 PM
fishnmachine,

I thought I might be able to help you out with an original Shakespeare Wonderod bag for your fly rod but the one I have is for a model #1175-M which was a casting rod. It's a double sleeve bag with it's original markings and other than some fading it's in decent shape. It's definitely long enough for your fly rod so if you're interested, PM me.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 02, 2014, 05:35 PM
The value of the rod is really subjective. Suffice to say that if you enjoy it.....it's priceless.

Fish it...have some fun with it.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Jun 03, 2014, 08:45 AM
The value of the rod is really subjective. Suffice to say that if you enjoy it.....it's priceless.

Fish it...have some fun with it.

RG

 ;D  I plan to....   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 03, 2014, 05:58 PM
Good stuff Fishmachine!

If you didn't happen to catch it, here's a link to a restoration I made to an old Phillipson a friend gave me. It fishes pretty well.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 04, 2014, 11:26 AM
another  morning  sun,fish,coffee  i do have one concern  the marina i'm fishing  no bluegills at all ,very unusal  other then that it's  great  i even got a clip on coffee cup holder  for my boat or kayak ;D i'm amazed with the improvements in live threw modern technology
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jun 04, 2014, 12:20 PM
I have 4 of the old Shakespear Wonder rods. they were my grandfathers and Tanks uncles. They were the workin mans rod back in the day. 2 eight footers, one white and one yellow - id call em both 4/5wts. One is a 9 footer and a solid 6wt thats light brown The other is a 6'6" ultralight white with a handle that can be slid down for a fly reel or slid up for a spinning reel. They have been used hard but are priceless to me...
Your probably not gonna get the white too bright, I think they were off white/dingy to begin with...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: perch-hound on Jun 04, 2014, 01:20 PM
And I have one of the old anti-reverse Shakespeare Wonder reels.  8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 04, 2014, 04:08 PM
You mean like this one?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/6-4-2014/DSC01738_zps644f2c07.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/6-4-2014/DSC01738_zps644f2c07.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/6-4-2014/DSC01739_zps4aeeb52c.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/6-4-2014/DSC01739_zps4aeeb52c.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/6-4-2014/DSC01740_zps7b344657.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/6-4-2014/DSC01740_zps7b344657.jpg.html)

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 04, 2014, 05:54 PM
nice collection RG oh  rg  ment  to tell you one of your leaders is on about 500  rock bass this  year   draged across a sunken barge  boat  docks  pulled free  and  still fishes  great !!!!!  i think  you came up with a winner and  your not retiring at all but  going to work  for RG fly tackle !!!!!  ....they really are a great product :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 04, 2014, 06:25 PM
I have a bit of production in mind Trapper. Those leaders really hold up to serious abuse don't they? I make a few from time to time and end up giving them away because the ones I use are still perfect after 3 years. Lets see a mono leader do that!

I now have a few spooled on my used tippet spools. I take them with me in case I decide to change tactics. You know, go from heavy Clousers to dries.  What a system! It sure provides flexibility.

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 04, 2014, 07:42 PM
you told me to  give them a  work out and i have ,they  get my aproval
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: perch-hound on Jun 05, 2014, 11:12 AM
RG, that is one heck of a fly reel collection. The wondereel I have is a fly reel, anti-reverse, and a tank.
I used to use it for salmon, but have since retired it. It now sits in my fishing/hunting hutch.
I'll try and grab a pic and post it.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 05, 2014, 04:36 PM
That's just some of them I keep out on my shelves in the living room. I actually use a lot of them from time to time. I've stopped collecting now. Enough is enough......sometimes ;D

Love to see some pics of the Wonder reel.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jun 05, 2014, 05:57 PM
Yes RG... you are a reel collecting MONSTER!! I don't have a  Shakespeare Wondereel casting reel, but I have a J.C. Higgins "400" that I'll bet was built by Shakespeare. I do have a "Shakespeare Silent" Tru-Art Automatic (green) fly reel in my collection that's been around for awhile, probably from the 50's.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 05, 2014, 08:58 PM
you  guys  got  all  the  cool  stuff  .... i  got  this  old  hardy   :'(

took a trip to all seasons  today  just picking up a  few things  .....i love  that  shop  for  fly tying
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 06, 2014, 02:02 AM
I collected South Bend reels for quite a while. I have one automatic. I should put it on that Phillipson rod. That would be a good match. Thanks for reminding me.

Just more stuff to dust Trapper :-\

RG

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 06, 2014, 11:47 AM
no  need  to dust  whats  in your  hand  ;D

cool  morning  but  did  some  nice  gills   mostly  on a  bead  head  pheasant tail  but then i  seen   a  slurp  or  two  so i  switched  to a  stimulator  and  had  some  fun ......life  is  good  when a  simple  sunfish  can  bring  joy to your  life
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jun 06, 2014, 03:54 PM
Just a heads up for all of you out there in "old f--t land"...

As I stated in an earlier post, I recently ordered a TFO 9' 6wt Signature II rod through Cabela's. I received the rod yesterday and it's a very nice rod for the $$ I spent. But because I wanted a little more info on it than was provided in the Cabela's Fly Fishing catalog, I went to TFO's site and read their write up on it. The TFO site specifically states that "Each rod comes in a beautiful dark green logoed rod sock". The site also has the on-line registration page available for all of their rods. Check it out...

http://www.tforods.com/fly-fishing/rods/signature.html#.U5Ib31JOXIU (http://www.tforods.com/fly-fishing/rods/signature.html#.U5Ib31JOXIU)

Cabela's makes no mention of the rod sock in their product description, nor do they make mention that the rod's are lifetime warranted by TFO. Yet they both sell the rod for the same price (my bad... Cabela's is $.05 cheaper). I naturally assumed that the sock came with the rod as TFO states but when I got it, there was no sock or warranty registration info. I went on TFO's site and registered the rod on-line and then called their 800# and spoke with a representative. She said she would be happy to provide me with a rod sock free of charge and took my information. I then called Cabela's and asked why I did not receive a rod sock with my rod and the Customer Service rep. told me, "Well, that's a special price on those so they don't come with the rod sock." I told her that was BS and that TFO sells the rod at the same price and provides the sock with the rod AND that the rod is lifetime warranted which Cabela's makes no mention of in their product description. I then got the "Sorry, I don't know what to tell you, blah, blah" and if there's nothing else I can help you with then have a nice day. I'm not attempting to turn this into an anti- Cabela's rant, I purchase from them frequently. Just trying to give you all a heads up.

So if anyone out their is considering purchasing a TFO rod, you may want to buy it directly from them and not Cabela's.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 06, 2014, 08:21 PM
Just some info for you Old F--ts...Rob, at Bartell Road Tackle Shop, is now a TFO dealer. I know He doesn't have flyrods in stock, but, He may be able to order flyrods for you.  ;) Thought I'd pass it along.--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 07, 2014, 04:24 AM
I have a couple of TFO rods. A 3wt Finesse and a 5wt Axiom. Really nice rods! I bought my blanks from J.Stockard.

The 3wt is one of my favorite rods for stream fishing. The Axiom is a monster for river fishing. I've been fishing them both for several years now and would recommend them to anyone as a very high quality, affordable fly rod.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 07, 2014, 04:07 PM
nice heads up wanna!  KP nice  thing to know!  i think they need to have  jr  head up a fly fishing dept.  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 08, 2014, 03:18 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/photo10_zps73744b30.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/photo10_zps73744b30.jpg.html)


On the Clouser Minnow ;D ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 09, 2014, 06:18 PM
nice heads up wanna!  KP nice  thing to know!  i think they need to have  jr  head up a fly fishing dept.   ;D
In due time....The young man has learned alot from Rob over the past year!! ;) He loves working there!! ;D

Nice smallie Bob!!! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Jun 09, 2014, 07:10 PM
...

On the Clouser Minnow ;D ;D

RG
Can't tell me that wasn't fun!  Nice smallie.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 09, 2014, 08:03 PM
told  ya  fish were on  clousers 

if  you  ty a  basic  clouser  in brown  fish it in short  jabs  smallies  pound  it  ,i imagine  thinking it's a  crab
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Jun 10, 2014, 04:08 PM
A great day on the water today.  Calm conditions and the gills were going nuts for the GurglePop
(http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m486/sandwick50/Bluegill1_zps2d8b0112.jpg) (http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/sandwick50/media/Bluegill1_zps2d8b0112.jpg.html)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 10, 2014, 04:24 PM
Nice job Bluegill...don't let Trapper see that post...those bluegills have been eluding him and, he'll be parked on your spot tomorrow....LOL!! :rotflol: :rotflol: Good stuff!!--KP 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 10, 2014, 05:43 PM
Looks like a blast. Gurgle Pops eh......... :w00t:

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 10, 2014, 08:25 PM
RG  i think  bluegill needs  our  help!  a  friend in need is a friend in deed  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Jun 11, 2014, 05:51 AM
Trapp...Next spring when RG is retired if you guys are interested we'll give it a go.  I've got a couple lakes in the north country that should provide alot of action.  But, the catch is you have to be blindfolded the entire time!! ;D 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 11, 2014, 12:29 PM
lol  .....  i  fish  a  few  lakes  up north myself  .... love  them  big gills
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Jun 11, 2014, 02:40 PM
Yeah, when you get one with a hump on its head you know you got a good one.  No dainty take by those guys - they come up and smash it.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jun 11, 2014, 03:11 PM
And the real bonus is those excellent sweet tasting white filets! Nothing wrong with Perch and Crappie, but Bluegills are my favorite!  ;D  ;D

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 11, 2014, 06:30 PM
I'll reciprocate with some time on Honeoye. Springtime. There is beyond reasonable ;D

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 11, 2014, 08:09 PM
 Honeoye has some  huge  gills
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 12, 2014, 04:55 AM
other day  driving to my super secret spot  i seen old gal in the  road !  i felt  compelled to  stop and help the  old girl across  before  she was run over .

(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/securedownload2_zps5940a24d.jpg)

she was just  shaking her stuff strolling across  so i  picked her up ...... wasn't hard if ya know what i mean  :P

(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/securedownload1_zps7c1d34b2.jpg)

then i dumped  her on the side of the  road!!!!

give these  old gals a break when you see them walking in the road ,there seeking places to lay  eggs  for the next generation ,i don't reccomend  kids messing with them but  for  the  braver  gents  out there  grab the tail and left uickly holding themaway  from you   and they are helpless  , don't throw  them   just   a short  drop  off the side of the road  , remeber  get back they  will be  mad  and  don't appercate  our  help!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jun 12, 2014, 05:00 AM
Good job Trapp..  There are a few on this thread... ;D
   http://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/index.php?topic=59078.0 (http://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/index.php?topic=59078.0)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jun 12, 2014, 05:15 AM
What amazes me is how far they're willing to travel to lay their eggs. Several times over the years I had big snappers come all the way from the creek 150 yds. away to lay their eggs in my garden. When they do I stake the spot off so I know where they're at and don't accidentally hit it with the tiller.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Jun 12, 2014, 11:52 AM
Bob...Way beyond reasonable.  I'll take that offer in a heartbeat.  Speaking of sheepshead ??? we didn't get together this year but next year for sure.  You'll have plenty of time to scout them out.  ;D 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 12, 2014, 02:08 PM
They're still out there. Sink tip line and crayfish imitations on I-Bay. Fish deep off the weed lines on points. There's some monsters in there.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: perch-hound on Jun 13, 2014, 01:02 PM
RG, here are the pic's of  that Shakespeare Wonder reel, this reel was in pristine condition,
with case and box when I lent it to my brother(who I call pig pen, lol), now well worn  :-\
The silver emblem that had the wonder reel stamp is now missing, you can see where it went
on the back side. It's a model 1898 anti-reverse.

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh353/perch-hound/DSC_2174_zps73fb7601.jpg)

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh353/perch-hound/DSC_2172_zps312422f9.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 13, 2014, 02:17 PM
A number of years ago I lent my older brother my brand new Ford Bronco Eddie Bauer with plush red upholstery for a weekend.  (I might mention that I'm fanatical about keeping my vehicles clean)

When he returned it I almost had a heart attack. He put his mutt in the truck for the weekend. It was carpeted with dog hair and stunk to high heaven. I was unhappy to say the least.

The reel is a beauty albeit mistreated. Don' lend him any more reels.

RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jun 14, 2014, 10:14 AM
I saw one of those at a sporting goods show in Corning this past winter. If I remember right the guy wanted $50 for it. Used to see them on the Salmon River a lot.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bigwitt1171 on Jun 14, 2014, 11:08 AM
Why is fly fishing so d**n expensive? I want to get into it but it seems like it can get really expensive really quick. My father is letting me use a cheapo set up he has but I don't even know where to start. He never got into it but has some stuff laying around. Anyone who is willing to help a newbie out let me know, I'm not looking for spots to go, just how to get started casting and maybe what flies i should start with. I've been trying to learn as much as possible.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jun 14, 2014, 02:13 PM
Just a heads up for all of you out there in "old f--t land"...

As I stated in an earlier post, I recently ordered a TFO 9' 6wt Signature II rod through Cabela's. I received the rod yesterday and it's a very nice rod for the $$ I spent. But because I wanted a little more info on it than was provided in the Cabela's Fly Fishing catalog, I went to TFO's site and read their write up on it. The TFO site specifically states that "Each rod comes in a beautiful dark green logoed rod sock". The site also has the on-line registration page available for all of their rods. Check it out...

http://www.tforods.com/fly-fishing/rods/signature.html#.U5Ib31JOXIU (http://www.tforods.com/fly-fishing/rods/signature.html#.U5Ib31JOXIU)

Cabela's makes no mention of the rod sock in their product description, nor do they make mention that the rod's are lifetime warranted by TFO. Yet they both sell the rod for the same price (my bad... Cabela's is $.05 cheaper). I naturally assumed that the sock came with the rod as TFO states but when I got it, there was no sock or warranty registration info. I went on TFO's site and registered the rod on-line and then called their 800# and spoke with a representative. She said she would be happy to provide me with a rod sock free of charge and took my information. I then called Cabela's and asked why I did not receive a rod sock with my rod and the Customer Service rep. told me, "Well, that's a special price on those so they don't come with the rod sock." I told her that was BS and that TFO sells the rod at the same price and provides the sock with the rod AND that the rod is lifetime warranted which Cabela's makes no mention of in their product description. I then got the "Sorry, I don't know what to tell you, blah, blah" and if there's nothing else I can help you with then have a nice day. I'm not attempting to turn this into an anti- Cabela's rant, I purchase from them frequently. Just trying to give you all a heads up.

So if anyone out their is considering purchasing a TFO rod, you may want to buy it directly from them and not Cabela's.

WK

Got the rod sock from TFO in the mail today, VERY NICE! Haven't fished the rod yet but I did take it out on the lawn for a brief casting session after I spooled up the new reel I put on it and it's a great rod for the price. So far, I'm impressed with my new TFO rod and the company's excellent customer service!

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jun 14, 2014, 02:22 PM
Why is fly fishing so d**n expensive? I want to get into it but it seems like it can get really expensive really quick. My father is letting me use a cheapo set up he has but I don't even know where to start. He never got into it but has some stuff laying around. Anyone who is willing to help a newbie out let me know, I'm not looking for spots to go, just how to get started casting and maybe what flies i should start with. I've been trying to learn as much as possible.

Bigwitt,

A great way to get started is to find a pond with a good population of Bluegills and use some poppers, foam spiders, small deer hair bugs, etc. and you should have plenty of action. You'll get to practice casting and stripping line but more importantly, how to react when a fish takes your offering. You don't "snap" the rod up for a hookset like you would with spinning or casting tackle, you "lift" the rod up to tighten the line. Snapping the rod up on the take will more often than not snap your tippet.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 14, 2014, 03:58 PM
I strongly suggest you get on YouTube and watch some instructional videos. Joan Wulff is far and away my favorite. Lefty Kregh is another.

Short of having some "old fart" show you the ropes, it's the best I can suggest.

Flies? Wooly Bugger, black nosed dace, any kind of clouser minnow, poppers.

Sorry it's expensive. Start small. All good things take time.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 14, 2014, 07:40 PM
i met  alot  of  flyfisherman  some  famous  some  not   99 %  were  great people  ....left kreh  was  one  of  the  rudest   sportsman i  ever  seen .... i  mention  this   ever  time  i  see  him  endorcing a  product
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 15, 2014, 02:42 AM
He's a crusty sort for sure Trapper. But his casting style is something to learn from. Joan is perfection in motion. An artist painting with a fly on a line. Lefty is somewhat unconventional.

Point is, both can toss a fly and so can you and I. Use the cast you have with a basic understanding of what's going on.

I'll be tossing some this morning as a matter of fact.  ;D

One thing about my style of casting, not many biting insects can get near me .

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: perch-hound on Jun 15, 2014, 07:13 AM

One thing about my style of casting, not many biting insects can get near me .

Rg
   :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 15, 2014, 11:09 AM
Just set up the Photobucket app in my iPad.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/dbe93e7a133e17ec9d619c6a0a617900_zpsde4516dd.jpg)

First picture.....crappie on the fly  :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:

I love this thing!
Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jun 15, 2014, 11:20 AM
Nice crappie RG..
Happy Fathers Day....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 15, 2014, 12:48 PM
Thanks Dom. Right back at you!

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bigwitt1171 on Jun 15, 2014, 07:19 PM
Thanks RG for tips on YouTube. There are some good videos on there. I'm going to try and do some casting practice and head out to a lake and see if I can catch some pan fish off shore. I guess I just don't understand how there can  be such a gap in price between different reels and rods, 800 bucks for a rod kinda shocked me.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 15, 2014, 08:28 PM
Don't know where you live, but I'd be happy to coach. FYI, I don't fish with $800 rods. My favorite fly rod is a Pfleuger President I bought for $19 on sale at Dicks Sporting Goods 20 years ago.

My best combo runs maybe $400 and it's way more than I need to fish.

Don't get caught up in a bunch of hype. Unless you're fishing saly water, a reel holds line and a rod delivers the line and fly to the area you want it to land. That's about it. It's 98% presentation and 2% equipment.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bigwitt1171 on Jun 15, 2014, 09:27 PM
Thanks that is very kind of you. I am in Ballston Spa, anyone know the best place to find fly fishing gear in the area?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 16, 2014, 03:08 AM
Gander mountain sells some decent outfits to get started with.  I think there's one in Utica.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 16, 2014, 06:43 PM
you  are  your  best instructor!  and  the  best tool in your  bag  is  to  video  yourself!  watch u  tube  for  sure    get  some basics  down   then  video  yourself  and  you'll see   what  hs  to  be  corrected ..... i personlly  am  not a  graceful caster but  i  can  hit  my  target  and  not  splash ......
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Jun 16, 2014, 07:45 PM
Hey Trapp...Sort of like your toilet skills, right? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bigwitt1171 on Jun 17, 2014, 01:37 PM
Practiced casting in the yard last night. I was pretty awful, I feel like the line isn't laying out properly? It was bunching up like five feet away from me. Not tangling but not going as far as I think it should
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jun 17, 2014, 03:12 PM
Another heads up for all you old f--ts...

Just received my weekly (or so it seems) Cabela's sale flyer and they're offering the R.L. Winston PASSPORT fly rods at $100.00 off the regular price from June 19th through July 6th. Regular price is $239.99 - $244.99 so it's $100.00 off either. Unconditional lifetime warranties and they come with a Cordura Nylon rod tube. Eleven models available. Just in case anyone's interested that was unaware of the sale.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jun 17, 2014, 03:22 PM
Practiced casting in the yard last night. I was pretty awful, I feel like the line isn't laying out properly? It was bunching up like five feet away from me. Not tangling but not going as far as I think it should

You're probably dropping your arm on the forward cast instead of making an abrupt "stop" somewhere around the ten o'clock position.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDJJ6W23gHw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDJJ6W23gHw)

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 17, 2014, 08:12 PM
Watch that back cast. It needs to be completed before making any move forward. Whenever I start screwing up I slow down and lighten up that grip. Muscle is not an answer.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 17, 2014, 08:55 PM
geeeez to be  honest  it's  just natural  for me  but  one big  problem  i think everyone has  is  trying to cast further then they  should you start messing  up  practise  casting shorter!  you  don't  need to kill it  !  .... relax  ....build  your  confidence up  ...trust  me  flycsting  is  not a  art  it's simple  mechanics,if  i  can do it  you can  do it better!......
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jun 18, 2014, 11:54 AM
Bigwitt,

Listen to the advice of the REAL old f--ts on here, trapper and RG. Don't try to overcomplicate things. Slow down and take your time to develop the "feel" for casting and it will come to you. Don't try to become a distance caster overnight, most of the time you'll be casting less than 25-30ft anyway. I don't know what outfit you're learning to cast with, but the slower action glass rods are more forgiving of beginner mistakes and you can definitely feel the rod load up. Make sure you've got the right weight fly line for the rod and not a line that's for a lighter weight rod (6wt line for 6wt rod not a 5wt line for 6wt rod etc.) although it's acceptable to go with the next line weight heavier than the rod weight (7wt line for 6wt rod). A weight forward WF line may help you learn easier than a double taper DT line. Personally, I would avoid using a level (no taper at all) fly line.

WK

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 18, 2014, 01:45 PM
I was just, out in the yard practicing with an 8 wt and a sink tip line.  I intend to use it for drum at some depth. 15-25  feet of water. I'll be using one of my furled fluorocarbon leaders and some beefy crayfish imitations. I'm determined to play with some monsters on thee fly..

Anyway., I found that I could only false cast ,to ,around 25' before having difficulties. I was, however, able to double haul out to almost 90'. I might do better off the back of the boat.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jun 18, 2014, 02:27 PM
I was just, out in the yard practicing with an 8 wt and a sink tip line.  I intend to use it for drum at some depth. 15-25  feet of water. I'll be using one of my furled fluorocarbon leaders and some beefy crayfish imitations. I'm determined to play with some monsters on thee fly..

Anyway., I found that I could only false cast ,to ,around 25' before having difficulties. I was, however, able to double haul out to almost 90'. I might do better off the sack of the boat.

Rg

Rg,

Do suppose the built-in weight of that sink tip is the culprit, causing the line to want to drop a lot sooner than the same line would do if it were a WF floating line? I have an old (unused) spool of 6wt Scientific Anglers sink tip around here somewhere that I bought back in the mid-80's at a yard sale. I was gonna throw it on the spare spool for my Pflueger 1495 DA just never did it. It would probably be a good "beater" line to use on the Susky and Chemung for Smallies. If I remember right it's on the light side, meant for depths of maybe 6-8ft or so in moderate currents?? It's probably not a patch off the lines available today and I've never used it so I have no experience casting with it.

WK

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 18, 2014, 06:01 PM
Hey Trapp...Sort of like your toilet skills, right? ;D ;D ;D
:w00t: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 21, 2014, 04:33 PM
Took the 2wt to the creek this afternoon. Pestered the gills and bass with dry flies. Love that little rod. Had one ,decent smallie on, broke it off. Gotta get used to that 6X tippit.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MickeyFinn on Jun 22, 2014, 06:34 PM
Bigwitt,

Listen to the advice of the REAL old f--ts on here, trapper and RG. Don't try to overcomplicate things. Slow down and take your time to develop the "feel" for casting and it will come to you. Don't try to become a distance caster overnight, most of the time you'll be casting less than 25-30ft anyway. I don't know what outfit you're learning to cast with, but the slower action glass rods are more forgiving of beginner mistakes and you can definitely feel the rod load up. Make sure you've got the right weight fly line for the rod and not a line that's for a lighter weight rod (6wt line for 6wt rod not a 5wt line for 6wt rod etc.) although it's acceptable to go with the next line weight heavier than the rod weight (7wt line for 6wt rod). A weight forward WF line may help you learn easier than a double taper DT line. Personally, I would avoid using a level (no taper at all) fly line.

WK



Pretty good advice..... Ive been casting all sorts of fly rods for over 20 years, Best way i can discribe how to cast is this, its the same feeling as cracking a wet towel, or a whip so to speak... You have to load energy in one direction and exchange/project its momentum to another direction....

Which as said, once you get the feel of it you just build on it... The only thing ill add is. roll casting, some call it barrel casting,,,,, IF you do small stream fishing you will roll cast more than anything, roll casting is fly fishing in my opinion, even if you are fishing big rivers, it gives you the ability to pound a seam or run over and over without spooking fish , even lake fishing when you have fish rising spread out ,if done right you can move to another fish at the flick of the wrist.... Casting flies can be a ton of fun, and a challenge...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: chrony59 on Jun 23, 2014, 10:02 AM
MickeyFinn nailed it ............................ ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 23, 2014, 05:23 PM
Sunday I set up a rod and reel and line to take out. It was an older Lamiglas blank I'd built Many years back. I didn't really remember what weight it was as I neglected to label it .

Anyway, it cast like an overcooked spaghetti noodle. It was totally unruly and out of control. The best I could do was change to a  stout furled leader, 3x tippit and a pretty heavy Clouser. The line was a DT5F. I'd guess the rod needed a WF7F or better.

Point is, all the technique and experience in the world won't overcome a really bad setup. One would think id know better and test cast a setup in the yard before heading to the stream.

Really sorry about the typos. I'm still getting used to the spell check on the iPad. I think I corrected them all.
Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jun 23, 2014, 09:58 PM
Sunday I set up a rod and reel and line to take out. It was an older Lamiglas blank I'd built Many years back. I didn't really remember what weight it was as I neglected to label it .

Anyway, it cast like an overcooked spaghetti noodle. It was totally unruly and out of control. The best I could do was change to a  stout furled leader, 3x tippit and a pretty heavy Clouser. The line was a DT5F. I'd guess the rod needed a WF7F or better.

Point is, all the technique and experience in the world won't overcome a really bad setup. One would think id know better and test cast a setup in the yard before heading to the stream.

Really sorry about the typos. I'm still getting used to the spell check on the iPad. I think I corrected them all.
Rg

Rg...

You're absolutely spot on with that. I took my new TFO 9' 6wt Signature II rod out to the yard for a casting session and learned REAL quick that it's a slower action than most of the rods I own... it's faster than my old Fenwick 8' 6wt glass rod but not as fast as my 9' 4wt St. Croix. A little time spent out in the yard is very beneficial for anyone with a new rod they're planning to fish with. I think the new TFO rod will be a great rod... I just need to remember it's a moderate, and not a "fast" action while I'm using it, but I'm sure I'll readily adapt to the situation when the time comes.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 26, 2014, 03:25 PM
I really tend to like slower action rods for a lot of reasons.

First, I cast like a Whirling Dervish attempting to rid himself of a swarm of angry white faced hornets.

Second, I own several ( perhaps many) older glass and tube glass rods.

Third, they're very forgiving to the aforementioned  casting technique.

Lastly, it slows me down. They give me time to enjoy the stream and all it's ambiance. With fast rods I fish faster.....period! I'd rather make 20 casts into a head or tailwater and find every fish there than rush down the stream. More time to consider presentation and variations thereof. More time to dig deep into the fly collection and tie on something I've been meaning to try. More time.

The next time you're standing at a pool, trying to figure out what they want and thinking you should move.....stay, relax and take a deep breath or two. SLOW DOWN!

Smell the flowers. Pick some berries. Watch that doe and her fawns wade to the cornfield. See how long you can keep still as the carp swim up to you. Follow the mink as it makes it's way in and out of the stream along the bank. Check out the hatch floating by your feet.

You might just learn what fly fishing is all about.

Geez! I'm waxing fly fishing  ;D


Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 26, 2014, 03:31 PM
All words of wisdom Bob!! I use to be the guy to swing the fly 3 times...hurry up to beat the other guy to the next hole. Now, I just let Jr. get ahead and sit back and watch!! ;) Good times!!

Kinda like the Baby bull and Papa bull sitting on a hill looking over a field of...well, You guys probably know that story!!! ;D


As long as You don't tell us Your waxing Your leg hairs Bob....Life is GOOD!!! :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:


KP-- 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 26, 2014, 04:44 PM
Tears in my eyes Larry. That was a good one. On the other hand, maybe I could get some cute ......well, never mind.

Old bull and the young bull. A very good friend of mine told me that one some 40 years ago. I never forgot it, but I didn't understand it until I had a few years under my belt.  Now it just makes me smile ;D

Bob
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jun 26, 2014, 06:54 PM
"old bull, young bull' is the best...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jul 01, 2014, 07:53 PM
The peacock is looking good..     ;D ;D ;D ;D Lots of tail feathers this year..... ;D ;D ;D ;D

(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp237/raquettedacker/get-attachment_zps459be66d.jpg) (http://s415.photobucket.com/user/raquettedacker/media/get-attachment_zps459be66d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 02, 2014, 12:20 AM
Is that actually a bird you've raised or is it just one you took a pic of?

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 02, 2014, 01:32 AM
Looking really good!

That peacock is responsible for a lot of flies in my collection. Tell Mom thanks Dom.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jul 02, 2014, 06:05 AM
Is that actually a bird you've raised  ?WK


        Its my moms...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 02, 2014, 10:00 AM

        Its my moms...

Cool! Now she just needs to start raising roosters, pheasants, rabbits, etc.  ;D

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 02, 2014, 12:25 PM
The peacock is looking good..     ;D ;D ;D ;D Lots of tail feathers this year..... ;D ;D ;D ;D

(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp237/raquettedacker/get-attachment_zps459be66d.jpg) (http://s415.photobucket.com/user/raquettedacker/media/get-attachment_zps459be66d.jpg.html)
Those blue breast feathers would make a few nice patterns for tying..... :whistling: just saying. any chance they'll all fall off... ;D Great looking bird though!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 02, 2014, 12:56 PM
One of my buds from " The Grumpy Old Mens Breakfast Club" just gave me a pile of Atlantic Salmon Journals dating back to 1959. Awesome reading with tons of classic patterns. Too cool to see the pics of the guys in cuffed wool pants, plaid shirts, ties and fedoras.

Glass was state of the art.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 02, 2014, 02:38 PM
One of my buds from " The Grumpy Old Mens Breakfast Club" just gave me a pile of Atlantic Salmon Journals dating back to 1959. Awesome reading with tons of classic patterns. Too cool to see the pics of the guys in cuffed wool pants, plaid shirts, ties and fedoras.

Glass was state of the art.

Rg

Rg,

Very much so, but I'll bet there were some Ol' boys back then that were pretty reluctant to give up their custom Bamboo rods.  ;)

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jul 02, 2014, 04:02 PM
Cool! Now she just needs to start raising roosters, pheasants, rabbits, etc.  ;DWK


    My mom was/is know as the bird lady on the hill.... ;D
That building in the back ground use to house 100's of exotic parrots...  And theres a few left...
When my brother and I were young we had all kinds of pheasants, quail and these big birds called Reahs......
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on Jul 03, 2014, 12:02 PM
The peacock is looking good..     ;D ;D ;D ;D Lots of tail feathers this year..... ;D ;D ;D ;D

(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp237/raquettedacker/get-attachment_zps459be66d.jpg) (http://s415.photobucket.com/user/raquettedacker/media/get-attachment_zps459be66d.jpg.html)

I could tie 4 million Zug Bugs with that.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jul 03, 2014, 05:19 PM
I could tie 4 million Zug Bugs with that.


   I will send you a PM and get your address...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 09, 2014, 07:37 AM
KP  i never heard  this  story  of  the  old  bull and  young bull!  please  tell  us  all about it  :whistling:

fishing  slower  adds  to the  enjoyment  ...in fact  take that breath  slow down and  LOOK  before  you even take your first cast ....  5 minutes of watching can add alot of  fish to the days total!

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 09, 2014, 09:16 AM
I hear you there Trapper. I spent a day exploring my backyard creek on my toon. Even though I've fished it for many years, it changes all the time. Last spring's flooding really moved holes around and scoured out some new pools.  There's new piles of trees etc and many new hiding places for hungry small mouth. I'll be walking into one of thiose new pools this afternoon.

Gotta meet my Daughter for lunch first.  ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 09, 2014, 01:09 PM
KP  i never heard  this  story  of  the  old  bull and  young bull!  please  tell  us  all about it  :whistling:

fishing  slower  adds  to the  enjoyment  ...in fact  take that breath  slow down and  LOOK  before  you even take your first cast ....  5 minutes of watching can add alot of  fish to the days total!


;D LOL!! That story was made back when you were knee high to a grasshopper!! :rotflol: :rotflol: For those who haven't heard the story...GOOGLE!!! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Jul 09, 2014, 02:40 PM
;D LOL!! That story was made back when you were knee high to a grasshopper!! :rotflol: :rotflol: For those who haven't heard the story...GOOGLE!!! ;)
YOU KNOW I HEARD THE STORY,and it is a good one,PLEASE LISTEN
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 09, 2014, 05:36 PM
Well....this is the way I heard it from a salty old carpenter who taught me more than I deserved. (Minor alterations to meet "G" rating accepted)

The old bull and the young bull were up on the hill looking down at the herd of cows.

The young bull said to the old bull " Hey, let's run down there and date a couple of those cows."

The old bull said, " How about we walk down there and date them all!"

As I said, minor alterations accepted ;)

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: O on Jul 09, 2014, 07:43 PM
Hi Old Farts,  
I've been looking for a fly rod for a trip to Canada to fish for Brook Trout.   I've got 2 rods now, a beginners 5 weight and a 8 weight that I made at a class several years ago.  
The outfitter suggests a 6 weight rod, most of the rods I've seen online are 3 pieces, not the 2 piece rods like I currently have.   With my regular casting or spinning rods, I've always felt the less sections the better (1 is best).  I'm assuming that holds true with fly rods as well.  Am I correct in this or are 3 or 4 sections the norm and acceptable.  
I'm planning to head down to the Cortland factory store this week, so any other suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Otto
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 10, 2014, 03:39 AM
I have 2,3 &4 PC. Rods in my collection. Shorter rods, 7' or less are ok in 2 pcs. I have a couple of 2 PC rods in the 8-9' size and they can be difficult to transport. Action wise, I would say that unless you are a world class fly casting champion, you probably won't notice the difference if you buy a decent quality rod.

Cortland makes ok rods. I would suggest you look into Temple Fork Outfitters rods as well. They're a tremendous value in a very good quality rod.

Have fun on your trip. Where are you headed?

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: O on Jul 10, 2014, 08:07 AM
RG,
Thanks for your reply - I am nowhere near a world class caster but I have some experience.   We are going to Square Tail Lodge, north of Chibigamou, Quebec. 

http://www.squaretaillodge.com/ (http://www.squaretaillodge.com/)

It is on the Broadback River in Quebec, and also on Lake Toulis, which offer walleye and pike fishing too.  We plan to spend 1/2 our time on trout, and 1/2  our time on walleyes and pike, but we'll adjust to the conditions as necessary.   Supposedly, the record Quebec Brook Trout came out of there.
Thanks for the tips.

Tony
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 10, 2014, 11:10 AM

Cortland makes ok rods. I would suggest you look into Temple Fork Outfitters rods as well. They're a tremendous value in a very good quality rod.

Have fun on your trip. Where are you headed?

Rg

Rg is spot on with that. I just purchased a TFO Signature II 9' 6wt and it's a very nice rod for the price, $120.00 and they come with a nice rod bag. Check them out here...

http://www.tforods.com/fly-fishing/rods/signature.html#.U766ylJOXIU (http://www.tforods.com/fly-fishing/rods/signature.html#.U766ylJOXIU)

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 10, 2014, 12:28 PM
I've been in that area a number of times. Great fishing up there.

Don't forget to tie up a chicken or two on some hooks and try for pike on the fly.  ;D  an old friend taut me to tie pike flies. He always said, " When you think you've tied on too much, tie on a few more."

Seriously, pike on the fly are a hoot and a half. Good luck and have fun!

Rg


Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: O on Jul 10, 2014, 04:19 PM
Wanna, I read your post on here last night about that rod, but when I went to the Cabelas website to order it I saw this one on sale:    Only $80 and it should serve me well.  I put the $40 savings into a reel and spare spool to replace the graphite one I have already.

RG - I have not been as far north as Chibigomou and am really looking forward to the ride.  I've been to Wetetnagami nearer to Senneterre several times, excellent walleye and pike fishing and nice cabins, very remote..... Also been to Lac Poitrincourt north of Roberval, again excellent walleye and pike.  The addition of Brook Trout will be fun and something I don't often do.  

I'll be sure to take pictures and post a thread on my return in mid-August.

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 10, 2014, 08:46 PM
O,

It's not about any of us trying to talk you into anything...it's more about offering advice so that you ultimately decide what's best for YOU! I hope you have a great trip up north and make sure you post pics. when you get home!  ;D

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 11, 2014, 01:52 AM
Sorry, I had to remove your link. Sometimes links to catalog pictures won't work.

I've fished Matching Manitou out of Senneterre a few times. Outstanding walleye lakes up there. As I recall it was around 10 you're from Rochester. But good roads for the most part. Not like the road to Clova. 6 hours of white knuckles. I'm sure the rod will be just fine. Best part is, if you don't like it Cabelas will take it back ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: O on Jul 11, 2014, 10:12 AM
No problem, it looked like a long link. 

My friend had been to Matching Manitou many years ago.  We were up that way last year and even with the logging plant shut down, the gravel road were very passable at 50 mph, and the 12 mile road into camp wasn't so bad either. 

I love Cabala's and have been a loyal customer for many years and  I'll have the rod in time to try it out a couple of times before the big trip.    As soon as I get a couple of hours, I will tie up some gaudy flies for the pike, I have an 8 weight I made years ago that has been sitting far too long.


Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 11, 2014, 12:45 PM
Actually it's Matchi Manitou. Sometimes the iPad spell assist has a mind of its own.

I'm headed out to the backyard stream a little later. I find that with a full moon it's better in the afternoon. Trying to decide what rod to take.  :-\

Maybe the 3 wt.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Jul 11, 2014, 01:36 PM
I hadn't touched a fly rod since late april... Kids were busy with Tank so I snuck up the neighbors pond and caught a few of these on foam hoppers...  ;D
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/jayvassil/10431478_10203010994768283_7144929184009816543_n_zps58ced3a2.jpg)

(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/jayvassil/10511304_10203052645969537_2712473603275123218_n_zpseadf1891.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 11, 2014, 06:34 PM
Good Grandpa!

Tank and the crumb snatchers look content. Nice gill too.

The stream was still riled up and the fish were uncooperative. But, tomorrow is promised to no one  ;D.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: kc on Jul 15, 2014, 06:50 PM
Just wanted to post I was able to get a TFO 8wt, 9' rod off ebay. I got it for a very good price complete with reel, fly line and backing.
I took it out to the yard tonight. It is by far the nicest casting rod I have. Makes me feel like I actually know what I am doing.
kc
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 15, 2014, 06:57 PM
Good job KC!

Which model?

I have an Axiom and a Finesse. Love the Finesse. The axiom is a beast. I need real concentration to operate it.

Rg






Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: kc on Jul 15, 2014, 08:07 PM
Good job KC!

Which model?

I have an Axiom and a Finesse. Love the Finesse. The axiom is a beast. I need real concentration to operate it.

Rg

Lefty Kreh signature series I, white river reel.
kc







Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 16, 2014, 12:46 PM
sorry  forthe absence  but the  computor was messed up and  only so many hours in the  day!  it's  mid july  and  the  gills are  hot for  foam or  nymphs  ,bass  have  been giving me  a  little  fun as  well ....no  big  secret  fly  of  spot  i been lazy this  year  most my efforts been in the  oswego river  with top water in the am and evening  nymphs  during the rest of the  day  ..... rg your getting closer  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 16, 2014, 06:23 PM
Closer to what Trapper ???

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: kc on Jul 16, 2014, 06:48 PM
I think Trapper missed the fact you already retired.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 16, 2014, 08:14 PM
awwwwwwwww i take a  break and  RG  retired ......  hmmmmmm  congrates
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 17, 2014, 03:04 AM
That's alright Trapper, now that I'm retired, I'm beginning to understand what priorities really are. It's been a lot of years since I had control of my own schedule. It's all coming back to me  ;D

When are we going fishing?  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: FishinNY on Jul 17, 2014, 06:49 AM
Finally found some time to dust off the fly rod and go to our favorite pond.
This rainbow absolutely smoked my parmachene belle right next to the boat.
(http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b498/jaydavies12v/imagejpg2_zps9dbc6ce5.jpg)
And my fiancé with hers
(http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b498/jaydavies12v/imagejpg1_zpsafa80e3e.jpg)
The fishing was hit or miss. It was a very late hatch, which was just before dark, and by that time the fish were turned off. But, catching fish there isn't what it's all about for me. It's where my grandpa taught me everything I know about fly fishing and let's me relive the memories I hope to pass on to my kids.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 17, 2014, 10:42 AM
fish  you have  a  great  area  with  wonderful memorys a  decent  boat  and  a  beautiful  lady ......  welcome  to  heaven  ;D  glad  you  got time  to  dust that  fly rod  off!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 17, 2014, 10:43 AM
RG  since  the  rain the  other day my  bluegills  have  not turned back on!  i  tossed everything  today  for 2  dink fish  oh well  the coffee was hot and nice outside
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 17, 2014, 02:25 PM
I hear ya brother!

Yesterday morning I caught (and released) my limit of 8 1/2" crappies and raised a couple of bass. Between the full moon nights and super high pressure , they were pretty much shut down.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 18, 2014, 05:42 AM
been slow  last few  days :(  going exploring  this am  ......if nothing else we  get a  boat ride
....been noticing  some gass hoppers  in the  yard  .....soon  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 18, 2014, 03:18 PM
Just went out to hook .up the boat to the little red truck. Darned thing wouldn't start. Might be the clutch safety switch or just corroded connections. ya least I have the time to fix it  ;D

Might take a look at the stream in the morning. It was still up and discolored this morning.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Jul 21, 2014, 07:47 AM
I finally took the Wonderod out last evening. I thought I'd share MY first fish on it.  It isn't much, but it made this ol' fart giddy... ;D
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z439/fishnmachine1/P072014_1708_zpse128104b.jpg) (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/fishnmachine1/media/P072014_1708_zpse128104b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 21, 2014, 09:26 AM
looks  great to me!  nice way to bring a  old rod back into action!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 21, 2014, 10:06 AM
had people in my back yard last night i believe up to no good! going to put up a couple motion detection spot lights ,nothing was taken from boats or truck but i heard them try to get in my shed ......no worrys mr coumo the walthers only had 7 rounds in it when i ran out.....  as  we  get  older hard to  realize  times  change  and i hope i can  write this  as a  warning  without  offending  people .....when i was a kid  the worse thing was  you smoked one after school  turned on  deep purple  and fell asleep no one got hurt ....today many many people suffer  honest addiction   from opiates  .... i'm 100%  sure   people  were  looking  to  grab  stuff last night  to take  to pawn  shops ......this isn't a inner city problem  it's a everywhere problem!  i  suggest  you  check  your  homeoners  insurance   or  renters   make  sure  it's  up to  date   and  i  suggest you keep  everything locked  up!  fishing ,hunting ,musical,lap tops  all sell  ........ i'm glad  i was up late  last night and  heard  these  idiots  ...i'm also  glad i have  protection ...but that too is  something  that  would  be  stolen!   becareful  ,protect  yourself  your family  and   your  proprety  and   look at your insurance  ....just in  case

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: chrony59 on Jul 21, 2014, 11:08 AM
had people in my back yard last night i believe up to no good! going to put up a couple motion detection spot lights ,nothing was taken from boats or truck but i heard them try to get in my shed ......no worrys mr coumo the walthers only had 7 rounds in it when i ran out.....  as  we  get  older hard to  realize  times  change  and i hope i can  write this  as a  warning  without  offending  people .....when i was a kid  the worse thing was  you smoked one after school  turned on  deep purple  and fell asleep no one got hurt ....today many many people suffer  honest addiction   from opiates  .... i'm 100%  sure   people  were  looking  to  grab  stuff last night  to take  to pawn  shops ......this isn't a inner city problem  it's a everywhere problem!  i  suggest  you  check  your  homeoners  insurance   or  renters   make  sure  it's  up to  date   and  i  suggest you keep  everything locked  up!  fishing ,hunting ,musical,lap tops  all sell  ........ i'm glad  i was up late  last night and  heard  these  idiots  ...i'm also  glad i have  protection ...but that too is  something  that  would  be  stolen!   becareful  ,protect  yourself  your family  and   your  proprety  and   look at your insurance  ....just in  case
X2........ My house was broken into in Greece , N.Y. on Christmas morning 2013 while we were visiting relatives in Florida ! I was way under insured.......... lost 8 shotguns and 4 rifles !! I'm still not over it yet ....................I hope they come back when I'm home I got something "SPECIAL" for them .........

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 21, 2014, 03:41 PM
Trapper,

Unfortunately, YOU'RE SO CORRECT!!! I have fell asleep watching TV late in the evening and woke up at 2-3:00 am only to see vehicles pass by that I KNOW don't belong here. My closest neighbor is 200 yds. away and they're an old couple that go to bed early. My next nearest neighbor is 2/10 mile away who works as a union electrician so I know he's in bed at that time but we're all on a private road so what the heck are these vehicles doing cruising by? I pray to God and sonny Jesus that I don't ever have to shoot anyone, but I'll be D@MNED if I'm gonna let some meth-head/crack-head etc., walk away with something I worked an honest days living for!  >:(  I know you fellas in NY have to deal with Cuomo, but I don't, even though I live less than a quarter mile from the state line. So the bottom line is, if anyone's caught on my property stealing from me, I don't have to deal with Andy's BS laws... the scumbag(s) will be dealt with by good ol' PA country boy justice!  ;D

PS:

 My Ithaca DS Police Special riot shotgun holds 7 rounds and it's kept stoked with 00 buck... just in case!!

WK

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 21, 2014, 03:50 PM
I finally took the Wonderod out last evening. I thought I'd share MY first fish on it.  It isn't much, but it made this ol' fart giddy... ;D
(http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z439/fishnmachine1/P072014_1708_zpse128104b.jpg) (http://s1189.photobucket.com/user/fishnmachine1/media/P072014_1708_zpse128104b.jpg.html)

Bill,

Nice that you got that old gem out again! I haven't forgotten you, if I ever find a suitable (original) bag, I'll be in touch! ;D

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 21, 2014, 04:12 PM
Careful who you're gonna shoot at and when. You may just end up where they ought to be. Stuff is just that....stuff. Not worth taking a life over. If they decide to enter my home they will have a problem. I can't really remember if the 9 mm has 7 or 15 rounds in it. I don't think I've looked at it since we were all made safe by Andy.

I was out harassing the gills today as well. Practicing with the dry flies and a couple of new recipe furled leaders. I made up some 72" with a very light tip for the 3 wt but they worked much better with the 5 wt and a DT5F. I was able to float a dry out there on an additional 4' of 5x tippet giving me a 10' leader. I'm trying to get in practice for some trout fishing. 

Anyway, the elk hair coachman was the ticket. Man they were inhaling that fly ;D

Rg

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 22, 2014, 06:38 AM
Careful who you're gonna shoot at and when. You may just end up where they ought to be. Stuff is just that....stuff. Not worth taking a life over. If they decide to enter my home they will have a problem. I can't really remember if the 9 mm has 7 or 15 rounds in it. I don't think I've looked at it since we were all made safe by Andy.


Rg



Might as well unload it then...you have nothing to worry about!  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 22, 2014, 10:16 AM
Yeah well I believe I'll do my civic duty and help old Andy keep me safe. Actually we're fortunate enough to have an excellent village police force. They do a terrific job of deterring malfeasance. One of the benefits of small town living.   

Anyhoo.....I decided to hit the canal verrrrry early this morning. I was on the water at 3:15 am. I thought the walleye and crappie might just be more active than during the heat of the day. I was right. I only managed 1 keeper walleye and 15 crappies, but it was a ball. Fish we're chasing bait all over the place. It was tough to compete. I may just try it again tomorrow.

Rg

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 22, 2014, 03:57 PM
Yeah well I believe I'll do my civic duty and help old Andy keep me safe. Actually we're fortunate enough to have an excellent village police force. They do a terrific job of deterring malfeasance. One of the benefits of small town living.   

Anyhoo.....I decided to hit the canal verrrrry early this morning. I was on the water at 3:15 am. I thought the walleye and crappie might just be more active than during the heat of the day. I was right. I only managed 1 keeper walleye and 15 crappies, but it was a ball. Fish we're chasing bait all over the place. It was tough to compete. I may just try it again tomorrow.

Rg



Rg,

You're lucky in that regard, we don't even have so much a Barney Fife in our entire township and the nearest PA State Troopers barracks is 27 miles away. The nearest NY Troopers barracks is 5 miles away but they won't cross the state line unless they're called in for assistance. Folks around here just kinda keep an eye out for one another but it gets tougher each year.

Aside from that, glad to hear you did well on the night bite. Have you ever tried a submersible light? The latest issue of FFG magazine has a good article about using them for Crappie at night during the summer months.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 22, 2014, 05:56 PM
If I'm not mistaken submersible lights at night are illegal in Ny. Anyway, no, I've never tried them.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jul 22, 2014, 06:54 PM
If I'm not mistaken submersible lights at night are illegal in Ny.


   Oh?  Guess I have been braking the law for a long time...     ???
Use them every winter ice fishing...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 24, 2014, 06:36 AM
my point is  ,we by nature  are  all targets  we have  gun  cabnets   boats  four wheelers all around  us ...we  show up like a  sore  thumb and  pawn  shops  don't care  where the  stuff comes  from ...take a  minute  to  secure  your stuff ,check your insurance  policy  and  do the  best you can.i did  but 3 motion lights up and a  alarm .... i wouldn't shoot someone for a fishing pole  or a ice auger  RG  but i i wouldn't run outside in the dark to confront  people tring to break into my shed either (thats  why  police  carry  firearms) ..... and it sounds like you do too ...

on the bluegill  front i took the 92 degree day off and  spent time at the bench under  ac   yesterday  after the cold front i was at the marina and  caught about a doz  decent gills mixed with some small not my best day but  not my worse  either ....  i noticed the water temps took a big jump here the gills were warm when i pulled them out ,they seemed healthy and   no problems swimming away ....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 24, 2014, 07:51 AM
trapper,

Maybe you and Rg have a policemen in your pocket, I don't.  >:(

Any of you adventurous sorts ever try to take down a Bowfin on your fly rod? Now that would be a hoot! Those prehistoric beasts are VERY powerful fish.  ;D

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 24, 2014, 03:42 PM
Spent some time at the bench myself Trapper.

Tied up some coachmen and indicator coachman. the gills have been inhaling these.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/8b013e33-28b7-4713-8874-0ecfed05f528_zps82916382.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/8b013e33-28b7-4713-8874-0ecfed05f528_zps82916382.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/imagejpg4_zps33d86581.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/imagejpg4_zps33d86581.jpg.html)

Did a few crappie jigs too.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/imagejpg3_zps1f74675c.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/imagejpg3_zps1f74675c.jpg.html)

Rg


Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishing mechanic on Jul 25, 2014, 03:21 AM
Simply beautiful work!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 25, 2014, 08:40 AM
LANCE good  to see  you  man!!!!!  ....rg  coachman  work  great  i like  the  white  wing i  can  see  it  better  but not  sure  if it  matters  to  the  fish  any caddis  imitation  is a  good  bet too  (stimulators are a  good  choice) the  great  thing  about  gills  is  they  respond  to  anything  from a  popper  to a  catskill style  dry  fly  thats  not to  say  you  don't have  to play  around  and  figure  out  what they  want  most that  day  .....  augest is  almost  here  and  soon  terrestrals  will  really  kick in  so a  good  time  to  tie  some  up
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: walleye1 on Jul 25, 2014, 09:17 AM
Yeah well I believe I'll do my civic duty and help old Andy keep me safe. Actually we're fortunate enough to have an excellent village police force. They do a terrific job of deterring malfeasance. One of the benefits of small town living.   

Anyhoo.....I decided to hit the canal verrrrry early this morning. I was on the water at 3:15 am. I thought the walleye and crappie might just be more active than during the heat of the day. I was right. I only managed 1 keeper walleye and 15 crappies, but it was a ball. Fish we're chasing bait all over the place. It was tough to compete. I may just try it again tomorrow.

Rg

You know what they say. When seconds count the cops are only minutes away.  ;)


Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Jul 25, 2014, 10:20 AM
Indicator Coachmen...  Brilliant!!  I never thought of that.....  :-[
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 25, 2014, 12:53 PM
Lance,
You're alive ;D
Don't know how beautiful they are but they'll fish.

Yup trapper, it's Hopper Time!

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jul 25, 2014, 04:24 PM
Simply beautiful work!


     X2.. 
And welcome back FM..  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 27, 2014, 01:56 PM
well well well i  did  a  limit of  nice  gills  and   two  wittle  smallies   no  fall  fish !   ate  lunch  going to  head a  bit  northward  and  hamer  another  100  ;D................we  be  eattin  fish  tonight :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 24, 2014, 11:23 AM
with the  rain  from a  few  days  ago the  river is  high and  muddy  ...i  did a  big zero this  morning   :(  but i did see a  few  bass jump , i know  i was on top of fish  but they wanted nothing to do with me this morning
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 24, 2014, 03:54 PM
I hit the canal this morning. Popped several good smallies with the old #6 Red Wiggler. Bonus crappie and drum. The gills liked the foam popper on the fly.

Taking my grandson to he stream tomorrow for some fun.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 24, 2014, 04:15 PM
I hit the canal this morning. Popped several good smallies with the old #6 Red Wiggler. Bonus crappie and drum. The gills liked the foam popper on the fly.

Taking my grandson to he stream tomorrow for some fun.

Rg


^5  RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 25, 2014, 02:09 PM
No fly rods, but we had a bunch of fun anyway.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/imagejpg1_zpsa7315d5a.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/imagejpg1_zpsa7315d5a.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/imagejpg2_zps691b94e4.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/imagejpg2_zps691b94e4.jpg.html)

He hasn't fished much with me. Always playing soccer. He sure had fun this morning. I'm pretty sure he's hooked ;D

We're going again tomorrow morning. I'll get him into some big smallies.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 26, 2014, 05:25 AM
it just doesn't get any better then that buddy
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 26, 2014, 05:27 AM
You betcha Gramps  ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 26, 2014, 03:53 PM
Captain Colin  ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/imagejpg1_zpsabd6ffee.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/imagejpg1_zpsabd6ffee.jpg.html)


Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Aug 26, 2014, 05:49 PM
Best picture on the site so far gramps..... :clapping: :bowdown: :clapping: :thumbup_smilie: :bowdown: :clapping: :thumbup_smilie: :bowdown:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 26, 2014, 06:04 PM
Thanks Dom. Lots of fun for sure.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 27, 2014, 05:47 PM
Yeah Trapper, that worked  ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/imagejpg1_zps671fb160.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/imagejpg1_zps671fb160.jpg.html)

Used a Gulp minnow on a beaded hook with a strike indicator today. Kind a cross between nymphing and jigging. It was super effective. Gills, crappies and one really big bass. I'm going back tomorrow to continue the experiment.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 27, 2014, 08:52 PM
that gulp is  good stuff  but  have a few  bead  head  streamers  ready if the  turn off  i found then effective  ...

that boy  is  growing up to be a man  ......  enjoy yourself  RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Aug 27, 2014, 09:38 PM
That's one proud young man at the helm!  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 28, 2014, 01:44 AM
And a proud old man taking the picture.  ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: kc on Aug 29, 2014, 09:27 AM
Would I be right in assuming that is a RG custom boat the the young lad was piloting?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 29, 2014, 12:42 PM
You are correct sir.  ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Aug 29, 2014, 03:37 PM
OMG RG now you have a chauffeur , jeez  :) ;) great pic granddad
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 29, 2014, 05:03 PM
Yeah, but he drives like a drunken sailor.

He'll get better at it.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Aug 29, 2014, 05:31 PM
We all need to learn and he's got a good teacher
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 29, 2014, 05:45 PM
How do you think he learned to drive like a drunken sailor :blink:

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 29, 2014, 08:20 PM
drive it like ya stole it
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 30, 2014, 06:47 AM
been  watching them  suck up the  bottom of  lake  neatahwanta  up  ...interesting set up they got going  i'll dry and get some pictures and ask questions  today...not sur how much of the lake they plan on doing  or how long it will take
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 30, 2014, 08:41 AM
What's their mission Trap?

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 30, 2014, 11:29 AM
i might  spell it  wrong  but  it's  hydro dredging  to  remove  muck  and  phosphors sedimets  in hopes  they  can  clean the  lake  and  to open  springs ...which i thing is  a  myth ...i think it  will  make  the  lake  deeper in  areas  that  they  do it .... i'm  not a  scientist  nor a  engineer  but  i  don't  think  lose  muck would  stop a spring   but i'm  probabally  wrong  and  i  enjoy  watching the  operation
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Aug 30, 2014, 12:43 PM
TRAP.
 you are not wrong, this is bud money for GOV. JUST LIKE THE HUDSON.
 just a thought.if they didnot have a GOV. job they would be to"dumb"
to have a real job. like"vice pres."
just me
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 30, 2014, 01:17 PM
That's not a fair statement there Rat.

I was skeptical of the deep water oxygenation program used at I-Bay when it was introduced. It's had some good success in my opinion. The water quality has really improved over he years. There's a lot of factors contributing to the turn around of the bay, but those same engineers and biologists were largely responsible.

I say, job well done!

Hope your home town lake improves Trap.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Aug 30, 2014, 11:00 PM
So what is lake Neatahwanta??? A sludge pool for the city/borough of Fulton NY??? I looked it up on Google Earth... Are the fish from this lake safe to eat, or is it a catch and release only lake?

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 31, 2014, 12:38 PM
Great Captain You have there Bob!! Great to see him taking some time away from the soccer ball to fish with Gramps!! Good stuff!!!--KP 8)

Trap, I don't believe sediment and muck would hold back a spring...they surface where they want and would certainly keep pushing whatever material is in the way...outta the way. I hope what they do, will do good for that lake of yours!! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 31, 2014, 01:30 PM
He's hooked for sure KP. We're going again Tuesday. Time I teach him some shore fishing.  Cane poles all around ;D

He'll be tossing flies before I know it.

From what I've read about the plans to dredge the lake, their objective is to remove a lot of the accumulated sediment. Seems that lake has been the repository of sewer and storm runoff. Makes sense really. The town is old and I'm sure there's a hundred years of build up. If they're using the system described in the article I read, they'll be dredging up the muck and transferring it to separation cylinders that allow the clean water to return to the lake and the sediment to settle and solidify. The sediment, it's said, can be sold for fertilizer.

They're working on it. That's a good thing.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Aug 31, 2014, 10:25 PM
Rg,

Wasn't Onondaga lake resurrected from the dead as well some years back?

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 01, 2014, 02:18 AM
They've been working on Onondaga  for several years. Major project down there.  Between the oil tank farm and Crouse Hines, they turned that lake into a cesspool.

Lakes and nature are pretty amazing things. With a little TLC from man, these lakes will recover nicely in a remarkably short time, geologically speaking.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 01, 2014, 08:41 PM
well the  thing is  it's  not  chemical  nor sewer its  all sediment but i been  fishing this  lake  nearly  60 years  ...the  debate  of  dredging  it  is  older then me ....  the  lake  had  water pumped  out  many  years  ago  to clam  farm land ...  now  30 years  ago it  was  one  of the  best crappie  lakes  in the  state .....  rat although  the  feds have given grants  the city and the people  have  worked hand and hand to attempt this i'll post  pictures  tomorrow  i  was  surprized  how  must  sediment they  took out in a  very small  area.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Sep 01, 2014, 08:44 PM
They've been working on Onondaga  for several years. Major project down there.  Between the oil tank farm and Crouse Hines, they turned that lake into a cesspool.

Lakes and nature are pretty amazing things. With a little TLC from man, these lakes will recover nicely in a remarkably short time, geologically speaking.

Rg

Streams as well... There are several I know of within an hour or so drive of my home that used to be void of all aquatic life due to mine acid runoff from strip mining practices here in northern PA. The water in these streams was a turquoise blue color from the copper sulfates. The DEP and PA Fish and Boat Comm. started a reclamation program some years ago by installing "limestone filtration boxes" on a number of the small tribs that fed these streams. As a result, they're now able to stock these streams with trout.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Sep 04, 2014, 03:13 AM
why every time i go to home page it logs me out...i know im offvthevtopic but this is the only page that dont kick me off. i tryed several pages.i dont thinkbi was a bad boy.so i shouldnt get spanked ;Dtryed to message rg spanked me again... :'(
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Sep 04, 2014, 07:57 AM
Onondaga lake is getting cleaned up , now they just realized it's going to take longer and and tons more money than previous  thought to finish and going much slower , one way they were getting contamination out of the soils was to spread and mix with mulch and plant willow saplings to suck up pollutants out of the soil ,then when big enough cut and burnt ,  here is a funny fact , the biggest feeder stream to the lake is the sewer treatment plant , and the other feeder has a greater salt content than the ocean , the company I worked for did the site work at the sewer plant and one of our operators worked on the sapling project I'm sure by now they do something different
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 04, 2014, 01:00 PM
Sounds like a cookie issue. What browser are you using?

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Sep 04, 2014, 02:01 PM
use my phone cleaned my cookies tryed to message fillet and got spanked to.this is the only page thats a go
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Sep 04, 2014, 02:07 PM
well spank myself  ;D i had my cookies off...soryy rg for cluttering ur page...but u have the magic button ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 04, 2014, 03:06 PM
No worries. Glad it's repaired.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 26, 2014, 06:18 PM
sorry  for being MIA  guys  but i  have  been  having somewhat a  family  er  and  computor  problems  to boot ...

i been hitting all my normally  good  spots  with little  to no luck  so the  other  day i  was  walking the  bridges  in fulton  enjoying a  stop at  d&d  ...as a kid i enjoyed looking over at the water  and somethings time doesn't change ...i was surprized at what i seen  in the shallow water  1000's  of  carp  ...so i  watched  them and  noticed  they  were  setting up in feeding lanes  like  trout  would! see a  big  rock  and  20  carp  behind it  ,,,i  watched and  seen them  move  qwickly  and  knew they  were  feeding , yesterday  i  went  across the  lock  and  walked  over  to the  fast  shallows  with the  fly  rod  and  weighted  nymphs  ......i had  one of my best days this year  no compitition  unlimited big fish and perfect water .... i landed 3 carp  lost 2  others   none were big  but they were  fun i seen alot of sheephead too  but i never  got one to take  ....  thanks  mr carp for a great work out and a fun  morning ...

how about that  derek  jeter   ;D what a great  game  and  a  great way  to  say  good bye to the  fans at home ...thank you  for  20  years  of  fun  :clapping: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Sep 26, 2014, 08:51 PM
how about that  derek  jeter   ;D what a great  game  and  a  great way  to  say  good bye to the  fans at home ...thank you  for  20  years  of  fun  :clapping: :thumbup_smilie:



    That was spectacular.............. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 27, 2014, 04:00 AM
It's ironic that he plays his last game in Boston.

I was on the backyard stream a while ago and having no luck at all. Water was very low and gin clear. I got to one of the carp pools and there was a pod feeding in the headwaters. Tossed all of my go to flies at them with no interest at all.

So I waded across the stream and up to the corn field where the farmer generously donated an ear of field corn. After cutting some corn off the cob and chumming, I stuck a couple of kernals on a Clouser and tossed it out. Hooked up with 4 and landed 3 on the 3 wt with 4x tippet. One was pushing 10 lbs. What a hoot!

Adapt, improvise and overcome ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 27, 2014, 10:15 AM
RG  earlier  i  found  carp like  gulp alive  waxies  too  ;D  i just rode my bike over the north bridge (lower)  looked  down  and  it's  invested  with  carp  and  sheepheads ...thinking  i'll try a  crawfish pattern see if that works to  entice those sheephead to  play .....i checked my marina and i couldn't see a gill anywhere .....this is  depressing .......  ps  this old fart is  averaging 7.5 miles aday   cycling and walking .... i should be in decent  shape  for bow season and walking on ice ;D


and dack  that was  a goodbye in  jeter  fashion ......  last  game   agaist the  the  sox  ....... i love  it
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Sep 27, 2014, 12:12 PM
THAT IS GREAT--trapper i wish i could do that 7.5 miles
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 27, 2014, 02:26 PM
Toss a brown wooly bugger at those sheep. It always worked on Oak Orchard.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Sep 27, 2014, 04:20 PM
KP is alive!!! ;D Gotta give a great Thanks to one of NY's finest...Derek Jeter!! Thanks for 20 years of dedication and commitment to NY!! Hey Trap! You motorcycling or bicycling to those fishing holes??? If your riding the bicycle....I have no prayer trying to keep up with you on the ice my friend!!! ;) Josh, his bud Jarid and myself are going to see if mr. mudshark wants to play tomorrow!! ;D


LIFE IS GOOD!!! 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 28, 2014, 05:20 AM
KP is alive!!! ;D Gotta give a great Thanks to one of NY's finest...Derek Jeter!! Thanks for 20 years of dedication and commitment to NY!! Hey Trap! You motorcycling or bicycling to those fishing holes??? If your riding the bicycle....I have no prayer trying to keep up with you on the ice my friend!!! ;) Josh, his bud Jarid and myself are going to see if mr. mudshark wants to play tomorrow!! ;D


LIFE IS GOOD!!! 8)

i been  peddling my  wrinkled  buttock every day  for about a month  ....now my idea  was i  could  use  my  mtn bike  to  bow  hunt on  state trails  here  in NY  and  in PA ,the second benifit is  it has improved my breathing and endurance ,i'm really glad i started  this ...i suggest ever old fart check with thier doctor and start some  exercise ...when i first started i was peddling a few blocks  ..amaxing how fast you  build up ....i'm no health  guru but i feel better and i know i will be able  to walk further this year  ;D  plus  when fish won't bite it's  fun ....good luck on those salmon  KP  and  JR  KP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 28, 2014, 07:39 AM
It's the only part of fishing you have control of Trapper. Keep at it. I still run 5 or 6 mornings a week. Gotta keep the wheels rollin'  ;D

Don't let those kids get the better of you KP. Have fun!

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Sep 28, 2014, 02:07 PM
WOW...I CANNOT do that any more.may be two hours of wood
cutting.that is maybe.but you must.keep going or 
you know.
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Sep 28, 2014, 03:33 PM
i been  peddling my  wrinkled  buttock every day  for about a month  ....now my idea  was i  could  use  my  mtn bike  to  bow  hunt on  state trails  here  in NY  and  in PA ,the second benifit is  it has improved my breathing and endurance ,i'm really glad i started  this ...i suggest ever old fart check with thier doctor and start some  exercise ...when i first started i was peddling a few blocks  ..amaxing how fast you  build up ....i'm no health  guru but i feel better and i know i will be able  to walk further this year  ;D  plus  when fish won't bite it's  fun ....good luck on those salmon  KP  and  JR  KP

trapper...

Where do you hunt PA?... Just curious. My wife has suggested that we invest in mountain bikes for each of us. I don't mind walking, but I think I'd enjoy the bike more and I could stand to lose some more pounds. I quit smoking near 5 years ago so my breathing and stamina are much better already. There a few long streams near my home like Pine creek (Tioga Co.) and Schrader creek (Bradford Co.) that have access by bicycle or shoe leather only. Any suggestions?

WK

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 30, 2014, 02:39 PM
well the  water  got raised  a bit and  now i can't get to my  carp and sheep head , anyways it was  fun for a few  days ...tomorrow i'll be in the  tree stand  instead of a fly rod ...i think ,still i can't help but wonder why the fishing turned so poor lately  ...... rat  you might not do  7 miles  but i  bet  you have more endurance then most!  just start walking slow (after  your  doctor ok's  it)  it really is making me feel better  i'm breathing better and less aches and pains  my endurance  is alot better and i think my outlook is too ....  now i need fish  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 30, 2014, 04:43 PM
Head for the lakes Trapper. Perchin' is starting.

On the other hand, all youse guys head for the woods. I'll hold down the fort ;D

Made perch sausage yesterday.....YUM!

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Sep 30, 2014, 07:26 PM
Rg...Perch sausage?  Explain, please.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 01, 2014, 02:06 AM
Perch breakfast sausage.  It's very tasty.

Coarse grind really cold, almost frozen, cut up perch fillets.
Add Seasonings , I like:
Sea salt
Pepper
Fresh parsely and basil
Garlic powder
Ground fennel
Also add some water to the mix. About 1/4 cup each to 4 cups of mix. It seems to help with the stuffing and cooking process.

Keep everything really cold while working with it.
Get out your sausage stuffer and have some fun. You may need to spray the inside of your stuffer with a bit of oil or water. The mix is very sticky.

Don't over cook it or they turn into rubber weenies :-\

Rg



Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Oct 01, 2014, 09:38 PM
Perch breakfast sausage.  It's very tasty.

Coarse grind really cold, almost frozen, cut up perch fillets.
Add Seasonings , I like:
Sea salt
Pepper
Fresh parsely and basil
Garlic powder
Ground fennel
Also add some water to the mix. About 1/4 cup each to 4 cups of mix. It seems to help with the stuffing and cooking process.

Keep everything really cold while working with it.
Get out your sausage stuffer and have some fun. You may need to spray the inside of your stuffer with a bit of oil or water. The mix is very sticky.

Don't over cook it or they turn into rubber weenies :-\

Rg


Rg,

I have a similar recipe a lady sent me on another forum...I believe her's was for Bluegill or Crappie. When I find it I'll post it.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 02, 2014, 02:45 AM
The kids bought me a grinding attachment for our Kitchen Aid a couple years back. I play with making sausages once in a while. I made a batch for our annual game dinner last year. We cut it into about 1" pieces and deep fried it. We served it with cocktail sauce and tartar sauce. Sure disappeared quick ;D

Love to see another recipe.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 02, 2014, 05:55 AM
i forsee  a batch of  rockbass sausage this spring ...........
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Oct 02, 2014, 06:18 AM
Good idea Trap.  I love those things.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 02, 2014, 01:10 PM
i forsee  a batch of  rockbass sausage this spring ...........
:rotflol: ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 02, 2014, 03:20 PM
Caught a few pretty big Rockies at Canandaigua today. Then I dropped a cylinder on my outboard. Lots of fun coming back in a heavy chop  from a mile down the lake on the little electric. >:(

Testing says it's the power pack. Just replaced it. Year and a half ago. Guess I shouldn't have purchased the aftermarket model.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Oct 02, 2014, 08:28 PM

Love to see another recipe.

Rg

Hey Rg,...

I finally found it so here's the recipe....

For 50-75 Bluegill (or other or mixed) panfish filets,  and that's the filet count, not the whole fish count...

1 TBSP Minced onion

1 TBSP Fennel seed

1 TBSP Crushed red pepper

1 Tsp. Chives

1 Tsp. Parsley

1 Tsp. Garlic powder

1 Tsp. Paprika

1/2 Tsp. Black Pepper

1/4 cup whole milk

2 egg yolks (optional)

Grind all filets semi-frozen (or at least chilled) through a 3/16" plate, then mix in all seasonings and stuff into Sheep casing or make patties.

Rg,... I have never personally tried this recipe so you may have to "wing it" as far as the 50-75 filet count is concerned... But I'm sure you know that!

ENJOY!!  ;D

WK



 

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 03, 2014, 11:55 AM
Caught a few pretty big Rockies at Canandaigua today. Then I dropped a cylinder on my outboard. Lots of fun coming back in a heavy chop  from a mile down the lake on the little electric. >:(

Testing says it's the power pack. Just replaced it. Year and a half ago. Guess I shouldn't have purchased the aftermarket model.

Rg
Glad to hear you made it back to shore Bud!! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 03, 2014, 01:14 PM
Yeah, the old electric and a giant battery have saved me on a few occasions. installed the new power pack this morning and took it for a test ride on the canal. Purrs like a kitten.  A problem I could throw money at and fix :-\

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Oct 03, 2014, 02:07 PM
Hey Rg,...

I finally found it so here's the recipe....

For 50-75 Bluegill (or other or mixed) panfish filets,  and that's the filet count, not the whole fish count...

1 TBSP Minced onion

1 TBSP Fennel seed

1 TBSP Crushed red pepper

1 Tsp. Chives

1 Tsp. Parsley

1 Tsp. Garlic powder

1 Tsp. Paprika

1/2 Tsp. Black Pepper

1/4 cup whole milk

2 egg yolks (optional)

Grind all filets semi-frozen (or at least chilled) through a 3/16" plate, then mix in all seasonings and stuff into Sheep casing or make patties.

Rg,... I have never personally tried this recipe so you may have to "wing it" as far as the 50-75 filet count is concerned... But I'm sure you know that!

ENJOY!!  ;D

WK



 


i have to try this ONE, looks great
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Oct 03, 2014, 07:28 PM
Any veteran rod builders ever cut an actual whole 1 piece blank?    Came across some sweet vintage fiberglass blanks and need to perform surgery on them.  Want to create spigot ferrule connections...fortunately I have some extra spinning blanks that came along with the fly blanks that I could potentially practice on.....

RG ?

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 04, 2014, 02:43 AM
I've done a few. It's not terribly hard. A mitre box, hack saw with a very fine blade, digital micrometer, battery drill, sand paper, masking tape and epoxy are about all you need. Oh yeah, and a scrap blank.

It's a little fussy is all.

Some of the old blanks were built with a hump where the ferrule would be installed you might be able to feel it.

Just decide where you're gonna cut the blank,  wrap it with a layer of masking tape to help eliminate splintering, put it in the mitre box and cut it with the hack saw using a pretty fine blade. I cut them on my rod lathe using a Dremel.

Measure the I.D. Of the butt and find a scrap about 5" long with about the same O.D. As the I.D. at the center of the scrap. A little oversized is better so you can put the scrap,in a drill and sand it to exact size while removing the finish from the scrap. You want it to be a very smooth, dull finish. 600 grit sandpaper then 0000 steel wool.

Slide the scrap into the butt section and continue fitting until you have about 2 1/2" extending past the end. This will be your spigot. Continue fitting it into the tip section till you have a nice snug fit.

Next you need to fill the tip section at a point about 1/2" past where the end of the spigot will stop. This will create the vacuum seal. Generally, a piece of cork fitted to the tube diameter can be tapped into place and will form a tight seal.

Once you're satisfied with all the fitting, pop the spigot out of the butt end, epoxy the lower inch or so and slide it into place.  It helps to have some old solid fiberglass blank to push it into place. Just be careful not to split the blank and don't forget to finish the ends of the blank where you cut it before assembling the spigot.

It's a learning experience ;D

Let me know how you make out.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Oct 04, 2014, 07:56 AM
Thanks RG.  that pretty well reinforces what I had already read, and your explanation is even much clearer.  One question....when you say finish off the ends of the cut blank, what do you mean by this?  some sort of soft sanding and sealing to prevent splintering I am guessing?


This is what I came across on Craigs list....a collection of vintage spinning and flyrod Lamiglass and Fenni blanks.....

I know some of the blanks have some value and are more unusual to come by including the Lami S-Glass blank, and there are a couple yellow Fenwicks.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2014%20fishing/20140928_184816_zps0d5624f3.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2014%20fishing/20140928_184916_zpse48a4a3c.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 04, 2014, 09:00 AM
Great find my friend.
Yes, I meant that you should lightly sand the cut ends of the blank with very fine, 600 wet, sandpaper. Then put a coat of something on them just to seal them. Sally Hanson hard as nails works in a pinch.

Let me know if you want to let one of those S-glass blanks go. They make great perch rods ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 04, 2014, 06:39 PM
thats a great find!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Oct 04, 2014, 10:24 PM
Thanks guys...quite a few winter projects in that pile   ;D

RG....I'm not ready to part with the s-glass fly blanks yet but if your talking one of the spinning blanks, yes, I don't mind selling one or two.

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 05, 2014, 03:35 AM
Pm me a list of the model numbers you might part with.  Love building rods in the winter ;D I need to build one for my Grandson for Christmas.

I have a couple rebuild projects planned this winter. I need to re-wrap a couple of my vintage rods. My Pfleuger President 5wt IM6 needs a new set of guides. I also need to set up a vacuum system for my rod lathe so I can spin handles . Messy business that!. Dark Cloud spins up some beautiful custom handles and makes me jealous :-\ I've done a few in the past, but I can't tolerate the dust in my hobby room.

You should build yourself a heated drying box and epoxy mixer. Fairly cheap projects. Makes life much easier when finishing. I'll help you with plans if you like. I also have a 3 jaw head stock for a dryer that's a spare if you decide to get into it. Happy to trade.

Nothing like fishing with a rod you built. I've been doing it since the late 70's. The first one I built was a Fenwick Ul-66 for stream fishing. Used a phone book to tension the thread, dried it on a cardboard box with a couple of notches in it. I fished with that rod for 20 years before the tip section went flying off to the bottom of Sodus Bay. Made me cry.

Rg

 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Oct 08, 2014, 08:34 PM
Rg,

Here is what I have in spinning blanks...

S-Glass 7' SFW852M

(yellow) 7' FW 84 1M

(yellow) FW 84 IM

(yellow) 7' FW 801S

(Brown) 7' FW 801S

(yellow) 7' FW 8616

Pick your poison(s)... ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 09, 2014, 07:56 AM
Hard to find any info on those Lamiglas blanks. What's the lightest of the lot?

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Oct 10, 2014, 05:36 PM
RG we could just meet some day and you can wiggle them if you want  :)   I'm heading to FLA for about a week but when I get back lets touch base.  Maybe we can meet up on the water somewhere?  Your the east side of Rochester correct?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 11, 2014, 01:57 AM
Sounds like a plan. PM sent.
Have fun .

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 22, 2014, 01:16 PM
chase a  few  salmon  chased  a  few   gills  chased a few  deer  with the  bow  chased a  few  woman  ...i  ain't  caught  nothing  but  a hard  time :(   lol  ....  been  busy  boys    getting   traps  ready  sighted  in  the   new  rifle  a  remington  700 adl  30-06    great  gun   new  under  300  bucks  at  wally  world ....gotta  love  em ..... 

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 31, 2014, 06:55 PM
sorry I  been  away guys  .... those that know me  know  my lady has had a rough  time , that being  said she had a nasty fall  and shattered her wrist so I been a bit  busy .... I  did get a few traps out the other  day and I hope to  go beat up on some chrome  and maybe sock a  deer  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 01, 2014, 04:56 PM
Sorry to hear about Mrs. Trapper. Hope she makes out ok!

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Nov 02, 2014, 07:35 PM
well  RG  she  disrupted  the  bones  in the base of  her hand and  broke   the   two  bones  in her forearm .....  if  she   lets  it heal  she  would  lose  mobility  so  a  operation   and a  metal  plate  are  in order :(
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 03, 2014, 02:33 AM
Wrist injuries stink. I smashed my left in a fall off a ladder some 30 years ago. Wish they'd had today's technology. I have about 70% with it. Makes playing piano and guitar a challange.

My family to yours.....best wishes for a good recovery.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: shark on Nov 03, 2014, 05:01 AM
well  RG  she  disrupted  the  bones  in the base of  her hand and  broke   the   two  bones  in her forearm .....  if  she   lets  it heal  she  would  lose  mobility  so  a  operation   and a  metal  plate  are  in order :(

   I had broke my ankle July 28th, Broke 2 bones . Doc put metal plate and screws in to hold it all together. They have that stuff down really good. My brother had his wrist done a couple years ago and no problems.
         good thoughts to you and your wife,  wishing her a speedy recovery.



                        Mark.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Nov 03, 2014, 07:07 AM
thanks guys ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Nov 03, 2014, 04:58 PM
I wish the best for your brides speedy recovery Trap!!! If you need a hand with anything...you know how to find me!! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Dec 30, 2014, 03:13 PM
Wow, I can almost hear the old f--ts snoring.   :sleep1:  :sleep1:
This is one of my favorite threads, but I had to go 3 pages back to find it. I know it's an off time of year, but somebody's got to have some kind of project going, so.... BUMP! .... and Happy New Year!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jan 12, 2015, 05:06 PM
Been tying some flies and ice fishing. Did a bunch of Catskills for a bud. Stored all my fly lines a week or so ago. Can't believe I have 18 fly lines :-\

That's about it for right now.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jan 13, 2015, 08:39 PM
WHERE'S TRAPPER?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 03, 2015, 08:17 AM
WHERE'S TRAPPER?

i'm hereeeeeeeeeeeeeee   lol 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 03, 2015, 12:46 PM
I'm here too ;D
Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 03, 2015, 02:40 PM
There's my 2 favorite 'Ol Farts! Are we all gonna get together this year? Or what? I say we make plans and stick to it! Won't be long and, the fly rods will be dust free! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 03, 2015, 04:26 PM
You know I'm in! We may have to lasso and hog tie the other one.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 03, 2015, 05:33 PM
ok ok  I  got  a  big bag of  strike  indicators   for  KP   :rotflol:

 best  fishing  for  us  as  far as  catching  fish  will be  as  soon  as  the  canal in the  river  opens up  those  perch are there  now  but  i'm  to  old  to  skeered and  to  smart  to  fish  walk on that ice   near  those locks .....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 03, 2015, 06:06 PM
Are you saying he suffers from " Bite Detection Deficiency" ?
Maybe he needs some instruction.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Mar 04, 2015, 03:06 AM
Im not to old but im getting there..had to get out of the cold...i just found an ald flybrod that my gandpa gave me .can make out 10 wt but thats it ..its old i wondet ifvit will hold up still..dont even know what kindda real its silver and when u wind the side it reels in autamaticaly..i think im just gonna hang it on thevwall under my brown trout.. ;D..i see u old farts beat me over here ;D  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Mar 05, 2015, 06:44 PM
Oh boy!   Activity here and in ".....What's in the Vise?" is a sure sign of spring!!!  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 05, 2015, 06:55 PM
I'm looking for a school gym where they'll let me practice my casting :-\

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 05, 2015, 07:59 PM
I bet if you ask to do a fly casting seminar....you might get in! ;D might just need to get Colin in on that one! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 05, 2015, 08:04 PM
Are you saying he suffers from " Bite Detection Deficiency" ?
Maybe he needs some instruction.

Rg
My "Bite detection" is just fine!  :P

Trap, I'd love to try that spot thru the ice...any idea how thick the ice is? ::)

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 06, 2015, 03:53 PM
I bet if you ask to do a fly casting seminar....you might get in! ;D might just need to get Colin in on that one! ;)
I'm going to one tomorrow at the local fish hatchery. Thought I might learn a few things ;D
They're doing a fly tying demo as well. I'll be interested to see how many show up. I'd love to give classes somewhere. I think I can handle the basic stuff well enough to pass some on to others.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: hunts2long on Mar 07, 2015, 09:01 AM
RG, check one of the local school's Adult Ed. programs. I learned from Carl Coleman at Churchville High back in the 70's....h2l
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 07, 2015, 09:28 AM
I've thought about that too. I'd probably be better off at a community center. I should probably start collecting some vises off eBay. It would be nice to get ahold of a few thompson AA or similar.

Rg

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 07, 2015, 02:52 PM
kp  i'd  go  behind    black  clawson    if  the  water  doesn't  rise  but  I  wouldn't  walk out in the  canal  last  time I  did the  water  started   flowing  more  threw  the  locks  and I  seen  10  inches  become 3  real  fast  ....that water  will  start  breaking up  soon now
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 09, 2015, 07:23 PM
Hey Bob, how did you make out at the hatchery? There were'n't any fish in the tanks I hope! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 09, 2015, 07:29 PM
kp  i'd  go  behind    black  clawson    if  the  water  doesn't  rise  but  I  wouldn't  walk out in the  canal  last  time I  did the  water  started   flowing  more  threw  the  locks  and I  seen  10  inches  become 3  real  fast  ....that water  will  start  breaking up  soon now
it can break up tomorrow!  ;D As long as we can catch a few perch and drink a coffee! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 10, 2015, 02:36 AM
Hey Bob, how did you make out at the hatchery? There were'n't any fish in the tanks I hope! ;D

This is gonna sound kind of conceited, but I could have taught them a thing or two about tying and casting both. It was fun just the same. Not a lot of people there.

There's always fish there. It's a great locally supported resource. The annual derby draws a lot of folks and there's always a bunch of kids. It's refreshing to see local businesses and individuals step up to keep the hatchery going.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 10, 2015, 08:24 AM
 :rotflol:  I helped  to  create  a  monster  lol  ......don't  you love   how  I started   writing  about  fly  fishing  bob   ;D


 the  most important  thing I have  learned  about  flyfishing is   "sharing"  lot  of  people  don't  others  think  they  are  above it ....  the  best thing I noticed  here is  no one feels that  way at all!  we  share and  no  bob  your  not  conceited your  honest. but  you still  had  fun  and  enjoyed  yourself    and  allowed   others  to  be  the best they can be ...that  is  what a  old  fart is all about ......as  far as  casting ot  tying  i'm  more  advanced  then  some  while  others  are  more  advanced  then  me ...but  is  that  what  makes a  flyfisherman   "good '  or "better"   as I  look  back  at   tossing  flys  at  fish  for  50  or  so  years   I  was at my  best   with a  cheap   bamboo  rod  from a  easy bargin center  and   some 12  for a 50 cent  flies  I  got  casting   for silver  bass (white bass) ......  no  time  was I more  excited   then  seeing  them  pound a  cheap  popper  ........or  the  days  spent  at  sage  creek  chasing  the  mighty  rock bass ......fly  fishing is a  ladder  with  a lot  of  rungs ...  the  first  few  are  just  as  good  if  not  better  then  the   top .... to all  you  dads  out  there  ..... take  jr  or  missy   get  a  couple  cheap  flyrods  and    look  for  a  pond  full of  starving  gills  or a  creek  full of  rock bass  and  make  a  memory  ...it  will last  for  ever .....and   a  quick  thumps  up  to the  "ole  man"  hey  pop  i'm  still   chasing  them  and  were  still partners  .... thanks  pop   :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 10, 2015, 03:33 PM
Well, if we aren't learning and maybe teaching, we aren't fly fishing Trapper.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Mar 10, 2015, 10:29 PM
Cabin fever got the best of a couple fellow 'Glass'-holes, and a meeting of the minds was called together this past weekend.  We shared our new specimens, some new, some old.  Ran some lines though them and ..........watched them bend !  Few things are sexier.....   ;)


 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/134c6aa8-cd9f-4304-9d34-c3a32063f758_zpsjjbcieml.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/8078aed7-22fc-4e1c-949e-d88482c5bbfd_zpsepbpep3q.jpg)

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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/390ad3ca-5dd4-42da-bd31-7707cea495b6_zpsz7lqaefl.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/66585e79-6d38-4ae1-86c3-b91f108f474a_zpsfd27ta8z.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/91517af8-1485-495f-bdcb-26b73636d9a2_zpsddo7zbhn.jpg)

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 11, 2015, 02:03 AM
Very nice :clapping: :clapping:

Great way to sooth the addiction.
Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 11, 2015, 08:10 PM
Thanks to two 'Ol Fart friends for helping me get better at tying flies and for some flyfishing wisdom....I have better taught Jr. To become a better fly fisherman! Thanks a ton Bob and Trap! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 12, 2015, 02:21 AM
He's a natural KP! Has that look in his eye ;D

Besides, someone's got to tie for the Old Man when his eyes start to go!

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 12, 2015, 05:34 AM
The eyes have already started to go...but I'm not an 'Ol Fart just yet! ;D Life is good!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 12, 2015, 06:16 AM
Eyes.....knees.....what's next?   ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 12, 2015, 08:10 AM
I  have  never taught  anyone  ...I  may  have  helped  inspire ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 12, 2015, 10:23 AM
The best teachers are an inspiration.

Rg

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 12, 2015, 04:07 PM
Eyes.....knees.....what's next?   ;D

Rg
I won't add the knees yet...PT is working some great wonders! ;)

Hey Trap...that perch spot open yet? ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 12, 2015, 04:22 PM
Yeah Trap, is that perch spot open yet ;D

Only 40 minutes away. I'll bring the coffee and donuts.

My knees are singing right now. Worked on the starter on the Red Ranger today. Wouldn't go this morning. Thought it was defective. Just replaced last July. Pulled it out found the wire from the motor to the solenoid was corroded. Cleaned it up and all better. Still had to pull the d**n beast out and put it back. Had her jacked up as high as I could, still had to crawl under to get it done. OYE!

Rg

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 12, 2015, 07:58 PM
You are always welcome to fish our perch spot! ;)

You had trouble with little red again? Even, after the ground issue.  :-\

Where is Trapper? ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 13, 2015, 03:20 AM
Yea, Red's getting temperamental in its old age. Nothing a couple of stainless nuts and washers wouldn't have prevented. I must be getting old too. Normally I would have thought of it.

Trap must have discovered something good ;)


Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 13, 2015, 08:50 AM
just a little  private  spot  and   i'm  sorry  to  say  i'm not allowed  to  bring company .... :(
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 14, 2015, 06:33 PM
just a little  private  spot  and   i'm  sorry  to  say  i'm not allowed  to  bring company .... :(
all your spots are private! Lol! You better not be catching fish in our perch spot..... :whistling: ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 14, 2015, 06:39 PM
I wasn't gonna say anything ::)

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 14, 2015, 06:43 PM
 ;D the Ol buzzard called me today, but, I missed his call....I am curious as to the nature of the call.... ::) he said he'd call back later!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 14, 2015, 06:53 PM
;D the Ol buzzard called me today, but, I missed his call....I am curious as to the nature of the call.... ::) he said he'd call back later!

Yeah he does that, then he calls back 4 days later.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 14, 2015, 07:51 PM
 :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 14, 2015, 08:28 PM
I  got  busy ......  catching  fish  lol 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 15, 2015, 03:14 AM
We understand ;)

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: hunts2long on Mar 15, 2015, 06:21 AM
I'm having those dreams also....h2l
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 15, 2015, 07:42 AM
I  got  busy ......  catching  fish  lol 
Hardwater or soft water?  ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 15, 2015, 09:28 AM
yup ;D

hey  send  me that u tube link I couldn't find it
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 15, 2015, 10:27 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IN0zHc5ZziI (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IN0zHc5ZziI)

Fun stuff Trap.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 15, 2015, 05:56 PM
 :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 15, 2015, 07:01 PM
Amazing to see him grow up like that. Hope he doesn't read this.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 15, 2015, 07:11 PM
yeah  well  good  kid    good  parents and  he's  grown into a  good  man  ......  i liked  the  part  about  braided  stunk  :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 15, 2015, 07:14 PM
I liked the bit about sunglasses. I wish them a ton of success.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 15, 2015, 07:31 PM
You won't see Jr on here much these days..he's moved on to FB, twitter and such. Lol! Since his first bluegill he caught out at Happy Valley at the age of 4, he has had the fishing bug since....He has every piece of equipment a 17 year old man would ever need to catch any species of fish, hardwater or soft water.  I keep saying to myself....money and time well spent! Thanks for the kind words gents! ;)

We all need to  get together and toss some flies this year!  :) Life is good!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 16, 2015, 07:27 PM
Nothing much would make me happier ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 16, 2015, 08:21 PM
We'll make it happen! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 17, 2015, 06:35 PM
larry  the  river is still iced in little area we could fish but not much ......most years that's wide open now
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Mar 17, 2015, 09:23 PM
larry  the  river is still iced in little area we could fish but not much ......most years that's wide open now
won't be long Trap! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Mar 19, 2015, 05:50 AM
This ice isnt gonna leave with all these cold nights.. ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 19, 2015, 06:24 AM
the river temp changes a lot and so does current ....it can open up even with cold temptures  as the river warmed  from the run off  last week plus it rose some
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 19, 2015, 02:57 PM
Yeah, my creek is flowing good and the canal is melting down more every day. That sun is getting up there and doing its job. Little rain in the forecast next week. Should help things along. I'm getting anxious a to hit the docks.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Mar 25, 2015, 10:30 AM
Hey, got my new license plate in the mail:

(http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m486/sandwick50/oldfart_zpsbefltybp.jpg) (http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/sandwick50/media/oldfart_zpsbefltybp.jpg.html)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 25, 2015, 10:47 AM
 :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Mar 25, 2015, 11:57 AM
Too good!!   :w00t: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 25, 2015, 03:08 PM
Is that for real? I love it!

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Mar 25, 2015, 03:20 PM
Naw, I got it from this recent article on syracuse.com
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2015/03/in_new_york_you_cant_have_these_6942_dirty_vanity_license_plates.html#incart_special-report (http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2015/03/in_new_york_you_cant_have_these_6942_dirty_vanity_license_plates.html#incart_special-report)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 25, 2015, 04:49 PM
That figures.  :-\

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Apr 01, 2015, 07:26 PM
A 70 year old and 40 year old fart got out this morning with the flyrods. Cold but we found plenty of fish and some nice hold overs   ;D
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/jayvassil/P4011331_zps58ogy22s.jpg)

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Kept some for a meal, sent this beaut back and a bunch of small ones...
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more snow than we have ever seen along the creeks on april1...
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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 01, 2015, 07:32 PM
very nice!!!! pretty water
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Apr 01, 2015, 10:33 PM
Dark Cloud....

NICE!! Looks like you fellas had a great time! Not gonna ask where you were fishing, but what patterns were working well for ya? BTW... the snow adds a nice contrast to the photos, much better than a dark background of dead grass, weeds, nothing green yet.  Nothing against keeping a trout or two for a meal, I keep a few each season so the Mrs. and I can enjoy a nice meal of fresh grilled trout, leeks and a baked potato. But also glad to see that you put that big boy back (???... looked like a holdover male).

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Apr 02, 2015, 06:04 PM
Trap - its a beautiful little hard bottom creek. The holdovers tend to com out of these spots. The fatter one I posted a pict of was under this log  ;D

(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/jayvassil/P4011313_zpsizldjumu.jpg)

Wanna - we are fishing small minnows on those 9ft fly rods. 5 ft of mono off the fly line and some split shots. Very effective on the small water. And fun! This creek is loaded with the little cased caddis that look like sticks. A guy could fish them and get fish. But the minnow gig is better for covering ground...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 02, 2015, 07:41 PM
very nice  man .....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Apr 02, 2015, 09:41 PM
Dark Cloud,

Yes I know a few little gems like that myself. Those type of streams are "classic" Brown Trout water. Many of them look so much alike that their only difference is their names. The fly rod and minnow technique was how I started trout fishing when I was a kid. I used a 9' Montague bamboo rod with one of the old style Martin horizontal automatic reels on it. My Mom bought me that outfit at an auction for $8.00 when I was about nine or ten years old and I still have it although I don't fish minnows on a fly rod anymore.
One little creek in particular that I fish on occasion looks just like the creek in your picture. I took a good friend of mine (who also happened to be the Waterways Officer for the region I live in) there once after forcing him to swear a blood oath of secrecy and he was VERY impressed with the size of some of the trout we caught that day. This man was a career officer who was also a very devout fly fisherman and a professional level fly tier. He fished PA, NY, and West VA each year and had seen countless brown trout over the course of his career and personal time spent fishing. He tied 8-10,000 flies during the winter months for shops he helped supply in PA and WV.
The funny thing is, we spent the day fly fishing, but when we were walking back to the truck he said, "Wow... there's some really nice trout in that little creek! If I really wanted to see the potential of what's living in it, I'd fish it with live minnows!"  ;D  

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: wiredstone on Apr 03, 2015, 04:45 AM
That is great DC 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 03, 2015, 03:03 PM
I went after some gills  this morning  ,the seemed to like a  bead head prince nymph  and a hares ear later in the morning  I had a  little fun with a  adams ..... lot of smaller fish but  it was fun anyways  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 04, 2015, 02:21 AM
I'm heading to the stream this afternoon. Gotta finish the leaf spring shackle and hanger on the little red truck first. Heard some clunking yesterday when I was towing the boat. Took a look to find the leaf spring was resting on the bottom of the truck bed. Shackle and hanger were gone. PITA job. Got the remnants of the old one out yesterday after grinding off the rivets. Now I have to get the bolt and bushing out of the leaf spring. Ain't gonna be fun.

But....I did have walleye on the grill for dinner ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 04, 2015, 06:58 AM
whole  month  has  been  filled  with  jobs  like that RG  I  had  to  drill out  2  bolts   for  my trailer  hitch  cut a access  hole  for  new  fram   nuts  and  reattach  everything  .....  take  your  time  no sence in a hurry  you'll get it
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 04, 2015, 11:06 AM
Oh I got it. Only took an hour or so. Much easier with a clear head. Now I have to do the other side. That one's broken too. OYE!. At lease that side will be easier. No exhaust in the way. I'll get to it next week.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on May 04, 2015, 02:07 PM
I'm heading to the stream this afternoon. Gotta finish the leaf spring shackle and hanger on the little red truck first. Heard some clunking yesterday when I was towing the boat. Took a look to find the leaf spring was resting on the bottom of the truck bed. Shackle and hanger were gone. PITA job. Got the remnants of the old one out yesterday after grinding off the rivets. Now I have to get the bolt and bushing out of the leaf spring. Ain't gonna be fun.

But....I did have walleye on the grill for dinner ;D

Rg

Guess there was a silver lining to that cloud after all Rg!!

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 04, 2015, 03:27 PM
Yeah, and a nice one to boot. I only managed one walleye but it was just shy of 26" and a nice meal with more in the freezer. I also caught what I think was my personal best perch. 15 1/4" measured and no idea what it weighed. Also made some nice fillets ;D
Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on May 04, 2015, 10:07 PM
Yum   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 05, 2015, 04:11 AM
I did a test mission to my backyard stream with the little spinning rod last evening. Caught one smallie on a rooster tail. Saw several more. No gills yet which surprised me. Water was warm enough to go without waders. I'll be getting the fly chaser out this afternoon  ;D . Got a little gardening to do this morning while it's cool.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 06, 2015, 05:50 AM
I got 2 mini spinning rods  4 foot I guess ...they suck .....cast aweful ...feel funny.....and hook setting is  less then desired ....I got a couple okma 6 ft ultras from snagger  best panfish spinning rod I ever had
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 06, 2015, 12:38 PM
My favorite little spinning rod is a 6', 2pc UL Lamiglas blank I built in 1982. There's no counting the fish that little rod has caught. I finally had to replace the Penn reel I had on it for all those years. Put a Pfleuger President on it.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on May 06, 2015, 04:14 PM

I have 2 , both 5.0 and one piece , each has its own designated job ,one is a very old Berkley lighting rod ul and the other is a shimano - Clarus ul with med fast action ,  both with trion  ul reels ,
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 06, 2015, 08:11 PM
I got 2 mini spinning rods  4 foot I guess ...they suck .....cast aweful ...feel funny.....and hook setting is  less then desired ....I got a couple okma 6 ft ultras from snagger  best panfish spinning rod I ever had
I picked up a couple of those rods from Shane. ...great rods!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 07, 2015, 03:26 AM
I built myself a set of small stream rods last year from 2pc 6'-6" 2wt IM-6 blanks. They're a ton of fun . The 2wt fly rod is a real giggle with a nice gill on it. I put Recoil Titanium guides on it and a sweet little Bauer reel.  The spinning rod is a great little trout rod.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/3-3-2013/DSC00971_zps7a7b1bce.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/3-3-2013/DSC00971_zps7a7b1bce.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/3-3-2013/DSC00972_zps9e181366.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/3-3-2013/DSC00972_zps9e181366.jpg.html)
Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on May 07, 2015, 06:21 AM

RG those are sweet
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rp dog on May 07, 2015, 06:54 AM
Very nice . My favorite is a 9' lamiglass slow action rod it goes in the truck when i go fishing whether its steelhead or bluegill.
Can't remember when I built it and try to build 1 or 2 rods a year always 2 piece design . I try them all but somehow the 9' is the one is the one i can't leave home without. Lets me keep it spooled with 4 pound test and can fish for anything around here.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 07, 2015, 02:58 PM
Got tied up gardening again this morning. Made my bride smile though. That's always good.

 So I'm grabbing the fly chaser and hitting the evening hatch. Very warm today but now the breeze has switched to the north. Very nice ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: geo315 on May 12, 2015, 09:50 AM
Still at it with some vintage rodsI build back in the 60's.  A  9'  9wt, a 71/2'  6-7 wt and a 6 1/2'  2-3 wt all built out of "g" glass from the now gone Reeds tackle in Jersey.  I still like the old  buggy whips.   All are fitted with a matching Medalist reel or reels.   The only things that have been replaced  are the tip top on the 9 and the lines.  And guess what......They still catch fish...  I guess I am to old and to stubborn to change.. Geo.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 12, 2015, 05:03 PM
I have a bunch of fly rods. Many are glass. There's an old Phillipson I salvaged and my Fenwick Ferrulite. I'm partial to IM-6 rods as well. I have a boron and a TFO Axiom, but, my Pfleuger President 5wt sees more water than all the others combined. It's been with me for more than 20 years. We're old friends.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on May 14, 2015, 01:18 PM
I just wrapped a 2/3 weight panfish flyrod for a neighbor....havn'tdone a full rod in many years.... What household or hardware store stuff can I use to seal the threads without having to order  online?
Not worried about color fading, just want to seal them....any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 14, 2015, 03:07 PM
I think I read somewhere that water based polyurethane will work. Try a sample ( obviously). I never use the preserver. I like the look of saturated thread.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: icejohn on May 14, 2015, 08:39 PM
I usually just use clear fingernail polish......seems to work quite well
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on May 14, 2015, 09:42 PM
I usually just use clear fingernail polish......seems to work quite well

Like Sally Hansen's hard as nails?

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 15, 2015, 03:44 AM
Nail polish won't act as a color preserver though. It'll soak in.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: icejohn on May 15, 2015, 06:56 PM
Nail polish won't act as a color preserver though. It'll soak in.

Rg
It doesn't' seem to soak into my nails........
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 16, 2015, 03:35 AM
Weeeellllllll alrighty then!

Choo Choo, post some pics when it's done. Love seeing other people's work.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 16, 2015, 04:23 AM
epoxy
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: geo315 on May 16, 2015, 11:13 AM
I think any good fly shop should have the proper coatings...
Do it right.  Its your rep.   G.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rp dog on May 16, 2015, 07:37 PM
Looked up the info rg I think your probably right. My old fly rod is a 5 weight . Hope to order kit next week. Pretty reasonable prices but can't put a price on fun .
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 17, 2015, 04:21 AM
You going for the TFO?

I'm taking the 2wt to a spot on the stream this morning. Should be a pretty good hatch coming off around 8:00 or so. Those gills will be slurping the surface. Time to play with the dries ;D promised myself I'd take the GoPro today. I'll see how that works out.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rp dog on May 17, 2015, 07:35 AM
Yes the TFO
I do have one Sage that was my dad's but never used that one it's in my gun safe. Haven't dealt with J Stockard before but not concerned about that. Probably won't be able to use it until fall any way. Going to spend some more of the kid's inheritence money !!!!!

Thanks
Rp
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 17, 2015, 07:44 AM
Your Dad didn't intend for that Rod to sit in the safe.....use it!

J Stockard is a quality company. You won't have any problems with them.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rp dog on May 17, 2015, 07:57 AM
Your Dad didn't intend for that Rod to sit in the safe.....use it!

J Stockard is a quality company. You won't have any problems with them.

Rg
Your rite Rg just haven't been able to force myself to use it.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 17, 2015, 10:39 AM
Yes the TFO
I do have one Sage that was my dad's but never used that one it's in my gun safe. Haven't dealt with J Stockard before but not concerned about that. Probably won't be able to use it until fall any way. Going to spend some more of the kid's inheritence money !!!!!

Thanks
Rp
I have 2 of my pops poles on the wall as well .....I feel they do get used ,everytime I look at them and her him laugh and scream fish on  ......RIP  pop ....were still partners   
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 17, 2015, 02:00 PM
A good friend of mine gave me his Grand dad's bamboo salmon Rod. I won't go into the reasons why.

I asked him if I should use it and he said," Gramps didn't have any wall flowers. He'd be a lot happier if it was catching fish." I'm gonna try it on carp ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rp dog on May 17, 2015, 05:48 PM
Kind of how i feel to trapper just can't make myself use it. I know he would be mad at me for letting it set but I don't know why just can't.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 18, 2015, 04:55 AM
RP I don't think they are just setting ,I think they are time machines that take us back ......my pop has been fishing on the other ide now for 20 years ....may 6th ,and when I take that rod down or  get his old jacket out ....i'm 15 again and were trout fishing or setting traps ...I think those rods get used in a whole different way now ,and maybe ,used just as they were always intented..............RP enjoy the memorys and hold on that rod , keep it safe, that's the job you were left :thumbup_smilie:

the depth of feeling and respect  compels us to remember and keep a part of that persons life alive ,often something that we see that person used and loved ........good job RP

ps I don't think our dads would ever get mad at us ....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rp dog on May 18, 2015, 07:49 AM
Could not have said it better myself when I'm gone maybe my son will see fit to use it. He and Granpa were pretty close.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rp dog on May 18, 2015, 07:59 AM
O T My son came over sunday morning and called in three toms for me. After they left he asked me why I didn't shoot. He already knew it wasn't about me shooting a turkey. Its the time we got share together.
Rp
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 18, 2015, 12:31 PM
O T My son came over sunday morning and called in three toms for me. After they left he asked me why I didn't shoot. He already knew it wasn't about me shooting a turkey. Its the time we got share together.
Rp

gee  just like that  flyrod ...memorys   :thumbup_smilie:

besides  i'm a  sentimental old fart
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on May 18, 2015, 01:53 PM
I usually just use clear fingernail polish......seems to work quite well
I used the clear nail polish by Sally Hansen..."Hard as Nails" $1.49 at Kinney Drugs.(thanks Wannaketchum) (I used about 25 cents worth of clear polish.Same finger nail polish company we use to customize our steelhead beads. It went on really easy...did not have any dripping, clumping or anything. It dries real fast so you can do a bunch of coats in no time at all.

I wrapped the rod in my lap, putting the thread spool in a coffee mug on the floor then ran the thread through a heavy book, and applied pressure with my left big toe to the book for proper tension. Applied the nail polish free hand also holding, spinning the rod with my left hand and using my right hand to do the polish .

Now I need to know what I can use to put his name on the rod from hardware store, Wal-Mart etc. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on May 18, 2015, 09:57 PM
I used the clear nail polish by Sally Hansen..."Hard as Nails" $1.49 at Kinney Drugs.(thanks Wannaketchum) (I used about 25 cents worth of clear polish.Same finger nail polish company we use to customize our steelhead beads. It went on really easy...did not have any dripping, clumping or anything. It dries real fast so you can do a bunch of coats in no time at all.

I wrapped the rod in my lap, putting the thread spool in a coffee mug on the floor then ran the thread through a heavy book, and applied pressure with my left big toe to the book for proper tension. Applied the nail polish free hand also holding, spinning the rod with my left hand and using my right hand to do the polish .

Now I need to know what I can use to put his name on the rod from hardware store, Wal-Mart etc. Any suggestions?

Well...

I don't build rods so I was just kinda throwin' it out there as a "cheap" suggestion. Let us know how it holds up for ya...

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 19, 2015, 03:30 AM
Craft stores like Michaels sell inexpensive calligraphy pens. Use Testors model paint. Personally, I don't sign or write on rods. I stink at it. I write so bad no one could read it anyway.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on May 19, 2015, 08:13 AM
Craft stores like Michaels sell inexpensive calligraphy pens. Use Testors model paint. Personally, I don't sign or write on rods. I stink at it. I write so bad no one could read it anyway.

Rg
Thanks rg.... I will pick one of those pens up. The pen will have lot's of other uses besides putting names on rods...thanks again.

(BTW...way back in the  90's when I built a few rods, they made a rub off stencil kit for signing rods...Came out perfect, and you just had to clear coat over it for a lifetime finish. If you are going to build a bunch more rods,(or do the ones you have already built) it might come in handy for you. Very easy, very Legible and neat.
I even stenciled the rod tip sections with rod blank model and line weight.

Well...

I don't build rods so I was just kinda throwin' it out there as a "cheap" suggestion. Let us know how it holds up for ya...

WK
Will definitely let ya's know. That Sally Hansen "hard as nails" nail polish is amazing on steelhead beads.  Underwater, bouncing off rocks, and chewed on by steelhead, and the finish stays on perfect. So I'm guessing there will be no issues for sealing  rod thread wraps. It comes with it's own in bottle applicator brush.
I do remember that it flows on and dries much better on dry days...not humid rainy days.

Thanks again guy's.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 19, 2015, 08:40 AM
I'll have to look into that stencil thing. I hate not marking my rods, but I'm embarrassed by anything I try to write.

Thanks,
 Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 19, 2015, 09:44 AM
what I  have  done  is  have  the  name printed   in  gold  on a  paper   glue  to  rod then epoxy  over the  top ....anything else  will wear off
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on May 19, 2015, 04:01 PM
what I  have  done  is  have  the  name printed   in  gold  on a  paper   glue  to  rod then epoxy  over the  top ....anything else  will wear off
That sounds good  trap....the stencil kits work very well, I stenciled rods back to 1992,  and 24 years later are still perfect.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 19, 2015, 04:44 PM
That sounds good  trap....the stencil kits work very well, I stenciled rods back to 1992,  and 24 years later are still perfect.

why not put a coat of epoxy over it?????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 19, 2015, 05:13 PM
I spent a little time today looking into crystal clear labels that would work with my ink jet printer. It might be an option if I can find the right combination.

Probably cheaper to have my Bride do the lettering. She has perfect penmanship.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on May 19, 2015, 05:18 PM
why not put a coat of epoxy over it?????
Yes  , that's what we did.  Stenciled on the letters and numbers, then brushed on clear epoxy over them to seal them. The same stuff we used to seal the guide thread wraps we used over the stencil letters....came out real nice and neat.

Clear labels sound good rg...let us know what you come up with.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on May 19, 2015, 05:40 PM
This picture was taken last year, I built the rod in 1992 (Sage Blem blank.#4 weight, 490 LL series, (9 ft. 4 wt light line series).. awesome rod.)....you can see the stenciled letters are still perfect after all these (24) years.

(http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu226/choo-choo-steve/20130501_161408.jpg) (http://s650.photobucket.com/user/choo-choo-steve/media/20130501_161408.jpg.html)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 19, 2015, 05:52 PM
nice rod! looks like  a old friend of yours  :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 19, 2015, 05:59 PM
Nice fish too. That reel looks like my Red Truck.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: shark on May 19, 2015, 06:03 PM
Look up Printable water slide decals.  they are used on guitar head stocks. Decalpaper.com
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: shark on May 19, 2015, 06:10 PM
  Or, Custom thread art   by Dale Clemens,  they show how to put your Name  in your butt winding.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 19, 2015, 06:16 PM
I'll check out the labels. No one's gonna wind my butt!

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: shark on May 19, 2015, 06:36 PM
[urlhttp://www.amazon.com/Custom-Rod-Thread-Dale-Clemens/dp/1602392587][/url]
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 19, 2015, 06:43 PM
I've messed with thread art before. Somehow I can't justify the time to do that. Plus, I don't like a cluttered Rod. I guess if I built surf rods.....

I like the water slide idea. I'm gonna order the paper and play with some decals.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: shark on May 19, 2015, 06:58 PM
 I played around with it many years ago, but never got to involved . I have seen some nice wraps from a builder down around Naples .  I not a big fan of big butt wraps either.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on May 19, 2015, 08:10 PM
nice rod! looks like  a old friend of yours  :thumbup_smilie:
Old friend for sure trap ! How about " BOFF" Best Old Friend Forever !  I've used it all over this country, but I built it for the Delaware, my home water, where it really shines and it has been my workhorse for the last 24 years here.
I do use another super sweet rod I built a year or two after this one which is my Sage #3 weight 389 LL.  When the tricos , ants, midges and tiny olives are being eaten, I use the 3 wt..It really protects those super fine tippets, when an 18" or 20 incher sips your fly.

Nice fish too. That reel looks like my Red Truck.

Rg
Not sure what your Red Truck is rg, but that reel in the picture is a 40 + year old Orvis CFO that I bought a few years after High school....still almost as good as new. The sweet sound of their drag is unmistakeable when you hear one on the river.....Love that reel.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rp dog on May 19, 2015, 08:37 PM
I'll have to look into that stencil thing. I hate not marking my rods, but I'm embarrassed by anything I try to write.

Thanks,
 Rg
Just adds character to the rod. Got to remember perfection is an unattainable goal. But when you aim for it you land closer to it than somebody that doesn't aim for anything. Seen a birthday card the other day that said Don't Grow Up.  Its A Trap!!!! Words to live by right there.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 20, 2015, 05:03 AM
Red Truck Diesel
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image.jpg1_zpsdqqhqvq0.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image.jpg1_zpsdqqhqvq0.jpg.html)

Classic click and pawl. Super reel!

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on May 20, 2015, 06:11 AM
nice looking reel rg...what is that little disk/dial on the frame rim? click drag adjuster ?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 20, 2015, 09:51 AM
Yup. Adds some pressure. It's got a nice old time feel.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 21, 2015, 02:58 PM
well great day with the  fly rod  today  I fished lakeview  in Jefferson county and  accidently caught a large mouth bass ,a real monster , so being a law  abiding citizen I  put the  camera aside istead I  can share my artist rendition

(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/bass_zpsfdjeu1yo.png)



ok I may not agree with the  law  but i'm sure  those  DEC people know what their talking about ,just seemed to me it took a lot out of the bass to pose  for the picture ........just saying
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on May 21, 2015, 03:02 PM
 :flag: :police: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rp dog on May 21, 2015, 08:08 PM
Good job trap better to be safe than sorry. Very well could be eagle claw. Mustad rep is supposed to be sending me some samples to look at .
Thanks
Rp
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 04, 2015, 12:50 PM
went to the local lake and enjoyed a nice morning few gills few crappies a few "NON TARGETED" bass  fell for a variety of flies  still lot of cotton on the surface
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 04, 2015, 01:03 PM
I was out on the canal yesterday. Started snowing around 10:00. Would have been the big skunk-o but for a few gills and bass.  Water temp (surface) dropped 10 degrees since the day before.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 04, 2015, 03:04 PM
felt good to be out there and not having allergy attacks ;D.i didn't check the water temp but I waded putting the boat in and it wasn't really cold
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 04, 2015, 03:58 PM
Breathing is a good thing Trap ;D

Canal was 53 yesterday.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 04, 2015, 07:52 PM
yes ...always good to be on this side of the grass
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 05, 2015, 02:25 AM
Looking up at the worms is bad :-\

Still hoping to get in some fly testing today. All my chores are caught up and I'll be splashing the little brown boat this morning. ;D

Creek still shows its up over 6". Gonna be a while before its fishable again.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 05, 2015, 04:51 AM
river is up ...lake is good  and the  creeks seem to be close again
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 05, 2015, 05:40 PM
The Creek will be up even more now. Thunderstorms have been trailing through.  >:(

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 05, 2015, 06:03 PM
no storms here ...............yet
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 05, 2015, 07:04 PM
Another round warming up here. Put the damper on our campfire. I don't like ground strike lightening.

There's a wall of black clouds aiming at us.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: shark on Jun 05, 2015, 08:46 PM
Some nasty weather on the wAy home from Blue Heron tonight. lots of water in the roads
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 06, 2015, 02:33 AM
You must have driven through the worst of it . It looked pretty violent to the south of us.

Usgs has the creek up a foot since yesterday. :-\
Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 06, 2015, 05:08 AM
grandchildren up from FL so it was a cook out and pass out gift time, he's in a wedding today then I hope to tack him down to make a aussalt on some rock bass
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Jun 06, 2015, 01:17 PM
I acquired an Orchard Industries Actionrod Model 1576 fly rod today at a yard sale. I have found a little info on Orchard Ind. but can't find anything specific about the 1576. Can anybody give me any info about this rod, line wt., etc. ? Thanks.  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 06, 2015, 02:31 PM
Would that be an Orchard Industries Actionglas?

If it's the one I'm thinking of, it's a 7 1/2' and should be rated for an HDH, HDG or D line.

HDH = DT 6 F
HDG = WF 6 F
D would be a level line

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 06, 2015, 02:45 PM
old farts love yard sales ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 06, 2015, 02:58 PM
Mine is gonna be next weekend ....lots of fishing stuff going on the block ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Jun 07, 2015, 07:45 AM
My job doesn't afford me much time to fish the last couple months but I have been able to land a trout here and there on some of my vintage glass, as well as acquire a couple new pieces for the collection.  The recent prize was this fiberglass fly rod I found on a smaller auction site that I took a stab at and won.  The rod was posted with vague information and only a couple poor pictures.  The bottom line is that this rod turned out to be a gem and part of fly rod history.  It appears to be about an # 7-8 wt. hand built by Ken Trisler.  Upon my research, turns out he was one of the founders of Fenwick rods and the person responsible for the characteristic 'diamond braid' wrapping on the Feralite models.  He built this rod in his time with Milwakee Inc., prior to his Fenwick days.  On top of being a rareish rod, it is in pristine condition and aside from a little soot on the cork, I can't see any wear on it.  Probably wont fish this one....


Oh yeah, picked up this new with original packaging Bronson click pawl too....



(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/20150324_120730_zpssujo2yiz.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/20150324_120744_zpsobkzbx0j.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/20150324_120840_zps90m8mzsn.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/_57_zpsgvypmtjn.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/20150605_181616_resized_1_zpspappej4t.jpg)



Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 07, 2015, 08:16 AM
nice  find!!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Jun 07, 2015, 08:47 AM
Would that be an Orchard Industries Actionglas?

If it's the one I'm thinking of, it's a 7 1/2' and should be rated for an HDH, HDG or D line.

Rg
Thanks. It says, "HDH D" . Not to sound stupid,  does that mean either?
It also came with a True Temper 85A reel loaded with old mono and a snap swivel. I need to find a different one for it.  ;D
Wish I was closer for your yardsale...

Very nice, Gump!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 07, 2015, 12:33 PM
Yeah it means either. Try it with a DT-6F and see how it loads.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Jun 07, 2015, 05:40 PM
Thanks, Bob. I will. It seems to have a fairly stiff backbone.  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jun 07, 2015, 06:23 PM
Sweet rod Gump..     :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Jun 15, 2015, 08:45 AM
A friend of ours invited us to his camp on Lake Bomoseen yesterday evening for a cookout, so I brought along the "new" Actionrod and some small poppers. After dinner, when the lake settled down, I tried a little casting off the end of his dock.

I mistakenly brought a reel spooled with wf 6 floating line instead of the level line I wanted to bring, but I strung it up anyways. That definitely isn't the right line for the rod. I had a really hard time getting the rod to load. It seemed as though the line just wasn't heavy enough.

I struggled through none the less. I fooled two gills and three small largemouths (12" was the lunker) into eating a popper. It was fun and I left with a smile.  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 15, 2015, 04:45 PM
Not too surprising really. I've never compared the actual physical weight of a modern line to silk or other vintage fly lines. I'd imagine they weighed more.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 19, 2015, 06:13 AM
A friend of mine.....a very good friend of mine....gifted me with this beautiful Orvis Fullflex 8 1/2' HDF/7wt. 4 PC. Fly rod. It's never seen the water.

Yesterday I was watching the carp feeding on mulberries as they fell into the water. So I decided to rig this rod and tie up some mulberry flies to play with. I put one of my South Bend Finalist 1133 reels on it with a Cortland Sylk WF7F line and one of my 60" indicator furled leaders. Testing it in the back yard it casts like a dream.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image.jpg1_zpsmri7yxlb.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image.jpg1_zpsmri7yxlb.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image.jpg2_zpsrgvabegi.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image.jpg2_zpsrgvabegi.jpg.html)

Huge cold front today with a lot of cold wind right now, but maybe a little later ;D
Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jun 19, 2015, 11:14 AM
A friend of mine.....a very good friend of mine....gifted me with this beautiful Orvis Fullflex 8 1/2' HDF/7wt. 4 PC. Fly rod. It's never seen the water.


Nice... when do you suppose it was made??

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 19, 2015, 02:46 PM
1986. The blank is an Orvis Blank not a Phillipson as were the earlier Full Flex rods.

It's pretty sweet.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Jun 19, 2015, 09:38 PM
Looks like a great rod RG ! 

Would like to see some pics of the 'mulberry' hatch if you get some.  That fly looks spot on.  nice pattern.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Jun 19, 2015, 11:15 PM
I swear RG, if you saw carp feeding on pine cones, the next day you'd have a fly to throw at them!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 20, 2015, 02:43 AM
Idle hands are the devil's workshop.  ;D

I did a favor for a friend yesterday and replaced a fan motor for a return air system at his restaurant. So, I didn't get to try the mulberries till the afternoon. The carp were way past breakfast time so no luck there. I did find a flaw with the fly though. It doesn't sink at all. So I'm gonna add some lead to the recipe. Shoul have dropped one in some water to test I guess :-\

This morning I'm gonna kill a few bass ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 20, 2015, 10:25 AM
my local bass paid ...then after number 3 I noticed gills sucking caddis flys off the surface ...bass season  officially closed  and bluegill season opened ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 20, 2015, 10:32 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image.jpg1_zpsuivc8tif.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image.jpg1_zpsuivc8tif.jpg.html)

I did pretty much the same thing Trapper. Got 3 nice smallmouth for a friend and went after the gills and perch. Couldn't count the gills I caught along with a few dozen rock bass and these 4 really nice perch.

Fun morning ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Jun 20, 2015, 11:10 AM
Nice going Trap & Rg.  What was the fly of choice Bob?  Wait, wait, don't tell me - Bob's Foam Popper!! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 20, 2015, 11:29 AM
crease fly for bass and a stimulator for the gills then a foam spider
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 20, 2015, 12:18 PM
#6 Red Wiggler for me :rotflol:

I did tie the jig though.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jun 21, 2015, 07:50 AM
HAPPY FATHER'S DAY TO ALL THE OL FART FATHERS! 8) ;D

Nice catch Bob! ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 21, 2015, 09:10 AM
Back atcha bud!

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 10, 2015, 06:16 PM
I have  to  share  this .....means  the  world  to  me.... I  just  got  another  e  mail telling  me    that  RG and  I  had  resparked a  flyfishing interest , when  I  started  this  tread  I  had  no idea   it  would  touch  so many  sportsman  and   not  just  bring a  interest to  new  flyfisherman  but   to  rekindle    the  interest   that  people  had  forgotten ......i'm really  not  the  greatest  fly  tyier  or  fisherman  .... I just  never  quit and  I have  always  said  the  most important thing as  sportsman we  can  do  weathe  fishing hunting or trapping  is to  pass  the  love  for our sport on .....thank  you  for  letting  us  know to  some  point  we  did that .......oh and  I lied .....I really am a great  fly  tyier  and fly fisherman  .........but  so  are  you ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 10, 2015, 06:28 PM
Well, you brought me back to it too Trapper. I fly fished, tied and built rods for many years until a basement flood took just about everything. If you're a tier of builder, you know the stuff you accumulate. Imagine all of it going in one event. Disheartening to say the least.

I put it aside for many years till I bumped into you on this site. I guess we both have Scott to thank for that. Anyway, you reignited that spark and I'm ever greatful.

You started this thread in the best of spirits. To help others and share experiences.

I say, well done old man!

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rp dog on Jul 10, 2015, 06:40 PM
Its going to be like  handing you butcher a scalpel and let him operate on himself.
Thanks guys
Rp
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 10, 2015, 06:51 PM
I told you.....wide brimmed hat ;D

It's almost ready. I might try it tomorrow afternoon.  :w00t:

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rp dog on Jul 10, 2015, 06:59 PM
I'm not worried about it. I won't have time for a while anyway.
Rp
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 10, 2015, 07:35 PM
RJ  you  done a  lot  too  along  with  every one  else  and  that's  the  good  thing ......we  are  all passing  it  on  , sharing  and  having  a lot  of  laughs  along the  way .......life  is  good ....except  for the  bear that got  my  fish and   turkey burgers
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Jul 10, 2015, 10:24 PM
Yep the first thread That I go to on this forum.  Good stuff gents....

I must be getting older....these fish have become fun again...a great adversary on a #2/3 glass rod.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/2015-07-04%2021.35.14_resized_zpshzmpgyeu.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/2015-07-04%2021.28.08_resized_zpsih9pryy8.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/2015-07-04%2021.30.59_resized_zps9udoed0l.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/2015-07-04%2021.37.36_resized_zpsd6ikyckc.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/20150704_202213_resized_zpszx2mylte.jpg)


Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: icejohn on Jul 10, 2015, 10:42 PM
I have  to  share  this .....means  the  world  to  me.... I  just  got  another  e  mail telling  me    that  RG and  I  had  resparked a  flyfishing interest , when  I  started  this  tread  I  had  no idea   it  would  touch  so many  sportsman  and   not  just  bring a  interest to  new  flyfisherman  but   to  rekindle    the  interest   that  people  had  forgotten ......i'm really  not  the  greatest  fly  tyier  or  fisherman  .... I just  never  quit and  I have  always  said  the  most important thing as  sportsman we  can  do  weathe  fishing hunting or trapping  is to  pass  the  love  for our sport on .....thank  you  for  letting  us  know to  some  point  we  did that .......oh and  I lied .....I really am a great  fly  tyier  and fly fisherman  .........but  so  are  you ;D
Well trap and rg, after following this thread this year I also got back into tying and fly fishing for gills.....I used to do it so much when I was younger, even got my son into fly fishing when he was only 10 or 12 and now he's almost professional, teaching fly fishing and tying he now has been fly fishing salmon, trout and when he's with me for bass and gills. I've had a lot of fun this year, but now my 3-4wtt rod got burned up with the rest of my boat and tackle....got another 5wt and just ordered a reel on eBay. Will be back at it. Tanks again guys.
icejohn
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 11, 2015, 02:04 AM
Great looking gills Gump! That's fun for sure.

John, I know the loss was a disaster for you and how that feels. But......just think of all the new stuff you get to buy now :w00t:

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: woodchip1 on Jul 11, 2015, 04:55 AM
Ty the fly over a small leadhead
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Jul 11, 2015, 06:17 AM
Very nice Gump.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Jul 11, 2015, 06:59 AM
GREAT gill and good photos thanks for sharing
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 11, 2015, 09:18 AM
Found some crappies this morning......on the "Bumble Weave"  with the TFO 3 wt. ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image.jpg1_zpsrqiovwd8.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image.jpg1_zpsrqiovwd8.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image.jpg2_zpsq9ujhqhx.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image.jpg2_zpsq9ujhqhx.jpg.html)

Dang that's fun!

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: icejohn on Jul 11, 2015, 09:34 PM
Great looking gills Gump! That's fun for sure.

John, I know the loss was a disaster for you and how that feels. But......just think of all the new stuff you get to buy now :w00t:

Rg
Yes Bob already bought a few rods and some gear...is kind of nice though and already got a line on a decent boat, things are looking up.
Thanks,
John
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: icejohn on Jul 11, 2015, 09:43 PM
By the way....that "bug" looks like a killer, what is it. Wouldn't mind trying them. Good job.
icejohn
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 12, 2015, 03:15 AM
Glad to hear it John. All is well that ends well. Take a look at the fly tying thread. It's one of mine. I've been playing around with some woven patterns.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 18, 2015, 03:38 PM
Hey all...

Any of you fellow old farts remember the Redington "Red-Start" series of fly rods? I just bought one in new unused condition (a 9'  2- piece 6-7wt) off FleaBay for $39.99 + shp... the original price tag reads $129.00!!  I remember when these rods were available and they had excellent reviews back then. They're more of a medium/moderate action rod which is fine with me. I'll probably line it with a WF6 or possibly a DT7 wt. and I think it'll make a good pond/river rod for my Mrs... at least that's what I'm gonna tell her when the package arrives.  ;D

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 18, 2015, 04:05 PM
Stick to your story! ;D

Never handled one myself. Is it glass?

I'm sidelined with tendinitis in my right shoulder. My Doc wanted to know what kind of repetitive motion might have caused a flare up. I laughed  and he said, " Oh yeah....fly fishing."  Couldn't raise my arm to shoulder height yesterday. Somewhat better today.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 18, 2015, 08:20 PM
Stick to your story! ;D

Never handled one myself. Is it glass?

I'm sidelined with tendinitis in my right shoulder. My Doc wanted to know what kind of repetitive motion might have caused a flare up. I laughed  and he said, " Oh yeah....fly fishing."  Couldn't raise my arm to shoulder height yesterday. Somewhat better today.

Rg

No Rg... it's a graphite rod. I placed the absolute min bid on it and figured if I get it I do and if I don't, oh well. Hope things get better with your shoulder, at least it's not your rotator cuff. I damaged mine years ago from the repetitive type of work I did and had to go through a bunch of PT. When it was at it's worse, I couldn't even pick a pencil off a table unless I held my arm tight to my side and lifted from the elbow only. I know guys who had to go under the knife with theirs so I guess I got lucky and only needed to do PT and go on light duty for awhile.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rp dog on Jul 18, 2015, 08:27 PM
Rg all I can say is WOW .
What a beautiful fly rod without doubt the finest in my arsenal.
Many thanks
Rp
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 19, 2015, 02:42 AM
You're welcome RP. Remember, it's just a fish pole......enjoy it!

Some times you get lucky on eBay. I got my Fenwick FenGlas 6 wt .using Auction Sniper. They were averaging $250 in new condition. Mine was half that and never had a reel on it.

Shoulder feels better this morning. No pain last night. It woke me up the night before. They'll have to hog tie me to get me under the knife. Seen too many of those operations botched, no effect or worse. I spent some time as a facility director at a big tennis club. I've seen people go through every kind of joint operation there is. There was a PT clinic in the building.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jul 19, 2015, 08:22 AM
I had the same shoulder problem and worked it out with exercise. NO KNIFE! good luck with it.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 19, 2015, 01:44 PM
Well I went to the creek this morning.....pure mud. So I'm sitting here with a slush bag on my shoulder, the air conditioning is on, there's a cold one in a frosty mug by my side and the Yankees are playing.

Could be worse.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 19, 2015, 08:29 PM
rest it for a few days  RG ....  we got hit but  the river is  clean and super low I went down but  the bugs were  really really hungry 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 20, 2015, 02:36 AM
Bugs have been crazy this year. I have to spray down before o go run in the morning. At least the bats are well fed.

I'm resting it Trapper. Been working on my rod lathe. Changed the controls around and made it 2' longer so I can do 10' rods a lot easier. A friend just ordered a 5 wt from me so I'll be building again in a few days. The basement shop stays nice and cool ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 20, 2015, 11:30 AM
Bugs have been crazy this year. I have to spray down before o go run in the morning. At least the bats are well fed.

I'm resting it Trapper. Been working on my rod lathe. Changed the controls around and made it 2' longer so I can do 10' rods a lot easier. A friend just ordered a 5 wt from me so I'll be building again in a few days. The basement shop stays nice and cool ;D

Rg

What few bats there are left. We don't have them around here anywhere near what we used to.

Rg... have you ever checked out this guy's site? He has some nice looking glass blanks.

http://www.mtnbrookrods.com/fiberglassinfo.html (http://www.mtnbrookrods.com/fiberglassinfo.html)

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 20, 2015, 12:34 PM
They look good from the pictures.  I'd have to handle one. Wonder where he's buying them? He doesn't say they're US made.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 20, 2015, 08:58 PM
They look good from the pictures.  I'd have to handle one. Wonder where he's buying them? He doesn't say they're US made.

Rg

Well... I kinda wondered that myself. But, he's a Pennsy boy with his roots planted deep according to his write-up. I hope he still uses materials that are home grown... aside from Bamboo obviously. I'm sure an email to him would answer that.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Jul 20, 2015, 09:18 PM
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Rg... have you ever checked out this guy's site? He has some nice looking glass blanks.

http://www.mtnbrookrods.com/fiberglassinfo.html

I love the little 'Native' blank I bought from him.  It's the 6' 6" 2/3 wt.  More of a #2 in my opinion and nice and slow....a 10" fish will sometimes bend you to the cork !  I've landed several 14-16" trout on it and it is a blast.  As far as the origin of the blanks, at that price I would bet money CHINA.  A nice rolled American glass blank will set you back 100.00-200.00 or so unless you find some vintage ones on e-bay....then maybe 70-100.00.  Big resurgence in glass right now.   Many manufacturers are now including glass in their line-ups (Orvis, Reddington, etc.)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2014%20fishing/IMG_6183_zpscdc41b8e.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2014%20fishing/IMG_6188_zpsf551a781.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2014%20fishing/IMG_6569_zps894bb73f.jpg)


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2014%20fishing/IMG_6564_zps6c9daf5c.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2014%20fishing/20140526_064830_zpsb3d87c8c.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 20, 2015, 09:34 PM
I love the little 'Native' blank I bought from him.  It's the 6' 6" 2/3 wt.  More of a #2 in my opinion and nice and slow....a 10" fish will sometimes bend you to the cork !  I've landed several 14-16" trout on it and it is a blast.


By God and Sonny Jesus Gump!... Now I remember where I've seen info on him before!! This guy's only about an hour west of me so I may just take a ride out and visit him sometime. I would love to have a classic "old style" rod built for the little creeks!! I've been considering purchasing a Redington "Butter Stick" for some time now...

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Jul 20, 2015, 09:57 PM
Yeah I would check him out.  Nice guy when I spoke to him over the phone.

If you want an American blank and custom glass rod and a more serious blank I have a friend who builds rods on a custom 7'4" #2wt. taper by James Green....won't find another #2 in that length in glass.  He also offers other sizes and weights in other Green blanks as well as McFarlands and Steffens.   He goes by 'Deep Bend Rodworks' on Facebook.  For what you will pay for a butterstick, I would look into one of these custom builders.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 21, 2015, 03:59 PM
Yeah I would check him out.  Nice guy when I spoke to him over the phone.

If you want an American blank and custom glass rod and a more serious blank I have a friend who builds rods on a custom 7'4" #2wt. taper by James Green....won't find another #2 in that length in glass.  He also offers other sizes and weights in other Green blanks as well as McFarlands and Steffens.   He goes by 'Deep Bend Rodworks' on Facebook.  For what you will pay for a butterstick, I would look into one of these custom builders.

Thanks Gump, I may just do that sometime.

I'm only about a half hour or so from Don Lesh's custom shop and I've walked or driven by his place many times over the years while fishing but I never stop because all I'd be able to do is drool... I can't afford one of his rods. Well, I probably could but... I could buy a lot of other toys with the same $$$  ;D

http://leshrods.com/ (http://leshrods.com/)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 21, 2015, 07:59 PM
Well guys, for my money, I want a rod I'm not afraid to fish with. I can only cast as well as I can cast. No amount of money spent on a rod will make me a better fly caster, stream reader, fly tier or fisherman. But, they're certainly pretty to look at.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 22, 2015, 06:38 PM
Well guys, for my money, I want a rod I'm not afraid to fish with. I can only cast as well as I can cast. No amount of money spent on a rod will make me a better fly caster, stream reader, fly tier or fisherman. But, they're certainly pretty to look at.

Rg

You're absolutely right Rg... I'm sure his rods are the best that they can be for those who view money as no object. Personally I just enjoy fishing and I don't believe a $1500.00 rod will catch me any more fish than my skill level will allow. I own a lot of traditional style muzzleloading rifles, but I never had a custom one built for the same reason you state about rods. I'm not afraid to hunt with or use any of what I currently own. I also believe that custom Bamboo rods fall into the "status symbol" category. If they were so much better than glass or graphite, they would still dominate the market.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: icejohn on Jul 22, 2015, 07:23 PM
You're absolutely right Rg... I'm sure his rods are the best that they can be for those who view money as no object. Personally I just enjoy fishing and I don't believe a $1500.00 rod will catch me any more fish than my skill level will allow. I own a lot of traditional style muzzleloading rifles, but I never had a custom one built for the same reason you state about rods. I'm not afraid to hunt with or use any of what I currently own. I also believe that custom Bamboo rods fall into the "status symbol" category. If they were so much better than glass or graphite, they would still dominate the market.

WK
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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rp dog on Jul 22, 2015, 08:48 PM
I've watched a few people catch fish with monofilament line wrapped around a tin can. While I haven't tried it myself I couldn't justify the high dollar stuff either. My neighbor showed me an 8' bamboo that belonged to his dad. I'd love to have it but for now its were it belongs.
Rp
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Jul 22, 2015, 10:03 PM
Quote
Well guys, for my money, I want a rod I'm not afraid to fish with. I can only cast as well as I can cast. No amount of money spent on a rod will make me a better fly caster, stream reader, fly tier or fisherman. But, they're certainly pretty to look at.

Rg

Agreed...  One of the reasons I gotten into vintage glass.  For casting they are more forgiving IMO that graphite, you can get them cheap if you poke around, and the action on them are just downright FUN !

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 23, 2015, 03:01 AM
I've got a few glass rods and you're right , the old buggy whips are very forgiving. Of all the rods and materials that make them up, I like IM-6 rods about the best. They're a nice mix of old and new. I'm building an 8' 5 wt 3 PC  IM-6 with 2 tips for a friend. Blank should be here in a couple of days. I've got a feeling it's going to be a sweetheart of a rod.

Using a decent feeling, reasonably priced blank, I can put the money into really good polished stainless steel guides and a top grade grip, seat and insert. I just did some modifications to my lathe as well. I extended the bed so I can turn 10' rods and altered the controls to allow a constant adjustable speed for finishing. It bypasses the foot pedal so I can use the clutch mechanism I built for finishing at around 200 rpm. Makes the finishing process much more efficient a lot less time consuming. Both good things when working with epoxies.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rp dog on Jul 24, 2015, 11:46 AM
Rg my bride said I'm somewhere between Ted Nugent and Lawrence Welke with a little mariachi thrown in.
She said she hasn't noticed anything close to Clapton. ????
Got to love her encouragement !!!!!
Rp
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 24, 2015, 12:02 PM
Well Randy, your tractors look like Clapton........can't speak for your fly casting. If you have trouble  casting that rod, I may have to make a road trip to pass on the operating instructions  ;D

Got the blank, guides and grip set for the next rod in the lathe. Now the customer tells me he wants red and yellow thread with the color preserved.  I told him it's an emerald green, translucent blank. Didn't seem to make a difference to him. I'm hoping for a short bout of color blindness that lasts the assembly time.

Maybe I can get hypnotized  ??? If it wasn't a very good friend, I might balk.

Rg

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rp dog on Jul 24, 2015, 03:06 PM
My dad always told me if you can't do it yourself you can't tell anybody that can. He knew a lot more than I ever realized. My rod is perfect nothing I would change. Its been my experience that red or yellow works good on a black blank not so much on green. Like I say nothing a case of beer or a few shots can't fix at the end of the day. I've been practicing in the yard but no bites yet. Can't wait till I get time to dedicate to fishing I'm convinced that work pretty stinks.
Rp
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 24, 2015, 06:30 PM
Just keep that elbow tucked into your hip and use your body to cast. Hold a book under your elbow against your ribs to practice. Helps avoid that chicken wing elbow that screws up the loop.

Once you get the old 10oclock/ 2 o'clock down, you can start varying the action a bit.

That rod throws a nice even line. It's got great action with very little flutter on the end cast. Keep the tip up and it drops a fly like a dandelion puff.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 26, 2015, 07:02 AM
being a  steelhead  man  one  BIG advantage  of  glass  is jumping out of a  warm  car into  cold  doesn't  affect the  rod  .....people laugh when I say that  but  most  snapped  tips  on  graphite steelhead  rods  happen  with in a  few  cast of  getting  out  of a warm car ........I  could  be totally  wrong just  something i  noticed  .....if  it's  glass  fish  if  it's  a  comp  let  it   cool  before  you fish ....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 26, 2015, 08:16 AM
Ahhh.....you're just comparing it to your old bones ;D

I know mine take a while to get used to the cold when I get out of a nice warm car, house, bed :-\

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Jul 26, 2015, 08:26 AM
Lol! I'll join you two ol farts in that dept. Funny how we compare how fly rods and bones work as they get older! And, I'm not an ol Fart yet.... ;D

Always love catching up on this thread....Life is Good :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 26, 2015, 09:21 AM
Just keep that elbow tucked into your hip and use your body to cast. Hold a book under your elbow against your ribs to practice. Helps avoid that chicken wing elbow that screws up the loop.

Once you get the old 10oclock/ 2 o'clock down, you can start varying the action a bit.

That rod throws a nice even line. It's got great action with very little flutter on the end cast. Keep the tip up and it drops a fly like a dandelion puff.

Rg

Rg,

Is this the advice of a self proclaimed "Whirling Dervish"?  ;D

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 26, 2015, 10:51 AM
Yup! That's what I look like when the elbow starts flying :-\

Well it's been over a week since I decided to give my sore shoulder a rest. It's feeling much better so I'm headed to the stream a little later for some gills and smallies. I went out early this morning with the ultra light and some rooster tails. All the while I kept telling myself I should have brought the fly rod.

Gotta fill some tippet spools and get the 3wt ready. Tied some dace just now. I'm that or some floaty kind of stuff ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 26, 2015, 11:08 AM
Hey Rg,

I got the Redington "RedStart" rod I mentioned earlier just yesterday. The Mrs. was away so I took it out in the yard and strapped my Pflueger 1495 to it loaded with WF6F. Not a bad rod I must say! I believe it's more of a medium fast than medium action as I thought it would be. I still think I'll go with a 7wt line as it's rated 6/7 and I think it'll work well on it.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 26, 2015, 03:30 PM
Nice!
I'm having a garage sale next weekend. I have a few I'm gonna put on the table along with about 15 ice rods, a couple big boxes of flies and a whole bunch of other stuff. Someone is gonna get some decent deals ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 26, 2015, 06:31 PM
Nice!
I'm having a garage sale next weekend. I have a few I'm gonna put on the table along with about 15 ice rods, a couple big boxes of flies and a whole bunch of other stuff. Someone is gonna get some decent deals ;D

Rg

Next weekend as in August 1st & 2nd?? I will let my son know as he is a lot closer to you than I am.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 26, 2015, 06:46 PM
Yeah. Macedon has its village wide garage sale that weekend.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jul 29, 2015, 03:12 PM
DO YOU DELIVER? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 29, 2015, 05:26 PM
Yup....but it's very expensive shipping. ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jul 31, 2015, 07:10 PM
The fly fishing threads here rekindled my passion for the sport.  My gear was stolen years ago and I just got back into it.

(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/jon006/20150726_080609_1.jpg) (http://s758.photobucket.com/user/jon006/media/20150726_080609_1.jpg.html)

The fish above felt awesome after so many years of not fly fishing
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jul 31, 2015, 10:24 PM
welcome back! What a beauty! many more.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 01, 2015, 03:38 AM
Well, at least you didn't forget how ;D

I know how it feels. I lost my gear to a basement flood many years back.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Aug 01, 2015, 08:33 PM
Well, at least you didn't forget how ;D

I know how it feels. I lost my gear to a basement flood many years back.

Rg

I guess not!  I went last night and had a tough time getting hooksets while nymph fishing.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 01, 2015, 08:37 PM
So, that feels new to you?

Seems like old times to me. But then, I'm a lousy trout fisher.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Aug 02, 2015, 07:24 AM
So, that feels new to you?

Seems like old times to me. But then, I'm a lousy trout fisher.

Rg

It feels familar but a new challenge.  I brought it with me yesterday and my buddy Tim stepped on it in the boat.  I was looking forward to using it against some bass. 

You ever tie any dragonfly patterns? 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 02, 2015, 01:47 PM
Yup...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image.jpg1_zpsthtx5wn0.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image.jpg1_zpsthtx5wn0.jpg.html)



He stepped on your fly rod......did he break it ?

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Aug 02, 2015, 04:10 PM
Yup broke it.  But its cabelas so I should be able to replace it at no cost.  Those flies look sweet!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 02, 2015, 05:15 PM
Did you use him for an anchor?

Pretty simple patterns really. Make the wings first.
Tie on a couple clumps of Zap a Gap to set and hold the wing shape. Do them one at a time.
Build a body with two strips of craft foam laminated over the wing and hook using super glue.

Either use a large hook with a weed guard or a smaller hook without one. I prefer no weed guard. It adds weight.

There's a number of ways to create the tail segments. I like to use a darning needle and tie it as an extended body.

There's a ton of YouTube videos on the technique.

Color seems not to be an issue. Bass are pretty stupid and eat just about anything ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 02, 2015, 05:55 PM
low  nice  fish  man  ...hey  if  your  having  trouble hooking  up  nymphing  try  this  ...think of  bass  fishing  top water  you  see  the  splash  and  wait  till ya feel him them lift  .... do the  same  slow  down  don't  set the hook  rather  lift  small  sharp hooks  don't  need  much  force just a  lift with the  wrist .......  keep posting  pictures  that's a  pretty  fish ......

rg  you ever  try that sheet wing material ??  not  sure  how  it  would  work on dragons  but looks  awesome on bees
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Aug 02, 2015, 05:57 PM
RG I wanted to use him as an anchor after he landed this:

http://swww.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/index.php?topic=68721.0 (http://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/index.php?topic=68721.0)

Thanks for the suggestion trapper Ill give it a go.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 02, 2015, 06:13 PM
Yeah, I saw that one. Big fish! Talk about salt in the wound :pinch:

I've got a bunch of wing sheet material Trapper. Looks good, but I think the buck tail floats better and casts better. A little more wind resistance, but it keeps its shape very well.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Aug 04, 2015, 07:40 PM
The collection grew today...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/20150804_130549_resized_zps1ag2jrtr.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/20150804_151522_resized_zpssgkfisnu.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/20150804_151550_resized_zps6ygbjgid.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/20150804_151540_resized_zpsch9artiv.jpg)


Nice one to stumble upon.  condition is excellent.  Worth 100.00-150.00 in some circles
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Aug 04, 2015, 08:25 PM
Nice score Gump.. Congrats!!  ;D

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 05, 2015, 02:18 AM
They sure used enough thread on those old rods. That grip will clean up nicely with some isopropyl alcohol and a toothbrush.  Put a light coat of spar varnish on the rod with a soft cloth and it'll look like brand new ;D

Nice find!

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 05, 2015, 03:10 PM
nice find  ......
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Aug 05, 2015, 09:56 PM
Nice!  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 07, 2015, 11:44 AM
Carp on the fly ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image.jpg1_zps8zbhtdms.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image.jpg1_zps8zbhtdms.jpg.html)

Took a little beady eye and headed for the next town. About 30"....maybe 15 lbs. Fun stuff in the stream with my 6'6" 7 wt. I must have thrown 200 casts to get this one to hit.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Aug 07, 2015, 08:31 PM
Carp on the fly ;D



Took a little beady eye and headed for the next town. About 30"....maybe 15 lbs. Fun stuff in the stream with my 6'6" 7 wt. I must have thrown 200 casts to get this one to hit.

Rg

I'll bet that was a hoot!! They don't call em' "freight trains with lips" for no reason!  ;D

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 08, 2015, 12:19 PM
Went 4 for 6 this morning. They liked the corn fly. The 2 I broke off were unstoppable . Two others I had to chase a pretty long ways. They're hot right now.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 08, 2015, 05:48 PM
carp fry  RG's house
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 09, 2015, 02:47 AM
All released with a pat on the head and a thankyou ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Aug 09, 2015, 05:55 PM
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Went 4 for 6 this morning. They liked the corn fly. The 2 I broke off were unstoppable . Two others I had to chase a pretty long ways. They're hot right now.

That is awesome.  May I ask if this is the canal again?  Or a stream?

...and is that a strike indicator in the one pic?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 10, 2015, 06:35 AM
Stream, no strike indicator. One of my corn flies.

Yes I cheat sometimes. Do a little chumming and then toss a corn fly. They're definitely on vegetation right now. Went 2 for 2 yesterday. I've been using an old Lamiglas 7 wt I built by hand back in the early 80's. I remember running thread through a phone book with the spool rolling around on my bench. I had a cardboard box for a rod rack and a timer so I knew when to turn the rod so the finish wouldn't sag.

Things sure have changed on my bench ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Aug 10, 2015, 12:01 PM
Went 4 for 6 this morning. They liked the corn fly. The 2 I broke off were unstoppable . Two others I had to chase a pretty long ways. They're hot right now.

Rg

"Corn Fly"???

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 10, 2015, 12:34 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image.jpg1_zpstypcweoq.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image.jpg1_zpstypcweoq.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image.jpg1_zpsooy7cjoa.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image.jpg1_zpsooy7cjoa.jpg.html)

 ;D
Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bigredfishing on Aug 10, 2015, 12:56 PM
very cool, RG!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Aug 10, 2015, 12:59 PM
Quote
I remember running thread through a phone book with the spool rolling around on my bench. I had a cardboard box for a rod rack

You mean there are other ways of doing it?   ;D

Very cool !  In my travels for work I have been stopping by some local streams and have been seeing the carp tailing and working the bottom for I presume nymphs and crayfish.  Just have had no time to try... :(
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Aug 10, 2015, 02:14 PM
Hmmmm... some "corn yellow" glo bug yarn might be good. You could even dip that in the juice from the can of corn used for chum.  ;D

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Aug 10, 2015, 02:17 PM
What reel have you been using Rg??

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 10, 2015, 03:29 PM
You mean there are other ways of doing it?   ;D

Very cool !  In my travels for work I have been stopping by some local streams and have been seeing the carp tailing and working the bottom for I presume nymphs and crayfish.  Just have had no time to try... :(

Not necessarily. They will vacuum the bottom for vegetation and snails. But I suggest you toss a small handful of chick peas or corn or rabbit food in the area and see what they do. If they swarm it, you'll know what they're after. If not then things might just be as you think.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 10, 2015, 03:41 PM
Hmmmm... some "corn yellow" glo bug yarn might be good. You could even dip that in the juice from the can of corn used for chum.  ;D

WK

Now that's serious cheating :whistling:

The little clouser heads with the detached foam kernel are killers. They land hook up because of the lead eye position and the little foam kernel. Twitch them across the bottom and hang on.

I've been using a 4/5 Okuma SLV on the little 7 wt., it seems to balance nicely. The line and leader setup is more important. I have to roll cast most of the time. The WF7F Cortland Sylk line has been terrific. I did go to a straight 2x leader. Knots just don't hold up well against these brutes.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Aug 10, 2015, 07:07 PM
Now that's serious cheating :whistling:

The little clouser heads with the detached foam kernel are killers. They land hook up because of the lead eye position and the little foam kernel. Twitch them across the bottom and hang on.

I've been using a 4/5 Okuma SLV on the little 7 wt., it seems to balance nicely. The line and leader setup is more important. I have to roll cast most of the time. The WF7F Cortland Sylk line has been terrific. I did go to a straight 2x leader. Knots just don't hold up well against these brutes.

Rg

OK Rg,

So the Bass tourney boys must be cheating when they dip their baits in "smelly jelly" etc., LOL!! How do you secure the foam chunk (faux kernel) to the short piece of mono you have attached to the hook?

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 11, 2015, 03:10 AM
The mono is 10 lb tippet material. Maxima I think. I tie a double overhand knot in the end, poke a hole through the foam kernel with a small needle, slide the mono through with the knot on top and put a small dab of Locktite super glue on the knot. Then pull the knot just in to the foam and let it set a few minutes. They usually come off during he fight, but it only takes a few minutes to make a dozen.

Notice that the mono is long enough to get the kernel beyond the hook gape. Very important for a good hookup. It's like a mini hair rig. Always gets them in the lip. Don't be afraid to set the hook on a bite ;D

Also notice that the hook is an N-Curve hook. Also very important so the hook rides up off the bottom.

I've given this some thought and done a bit of experimentation. It's a silly looking fly, but it's pretty fine tuned.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Aug 11, 2015, 04:09 PM
The mono is 10 lb tippet material. Maxima I think. I tie a double overhand knot in the end, poke a hole through the foam kernel with a small needle, slide the mono through with the knot on top and put a small dab of Locktite super glue on the knot. Then pull the knot just in to the foam and let it set a few minutes. They usually come off during he fight, but it only takes a few minutes to make a dozen.

Notice that the mono is long enough to get the kernel beyond the hook gape. Very important for a good hookup. It's like a mini hair rig. Always gets them in the lip. Don't be afraid to set the hook on a bite ;D

Also notice that the hook is an N-Curve hook. Also very important so the hook rides up off the bottom.

I've given this some thought and done a bit of experimentation. It's a silly looking fly, but it's pretty fine tuned.

Rg

Thanks Rg,

Yea... I didn't figure there was much "rocket science" involved... pretty straightforward. I'm not familiar with the N-curve hook... any suggestions on a sub or is that pretty much what fits the bill? Also... you're probably using one of you're furled leaders and a length of 2X as tippet. Are they kinda line shy with regard to length of tippet?

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 11, 2015, 05:15 PM
Nope...just straight 2x tippet. 7-10' They don't like the furled leaders in that shallow water. They spook easy. If they touch the line, they're gone.

I use hooks like the Tiemco 200R. Mine come from EBay.
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I use a 3x long #10.

It rained 4.2" in 3 hours here yesterday. The stream is toast for a few days. Guess I'll break out the boat ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Aug 12, 2015, 09:05 PM
After almost 3" of rain the other night, local streams were raging, but my work travels had me in the location of the headwaters of a trib of a trib....tiny water.  It is spring fed and cold enough to hold a wild population of browns and historically brookies (haven't found one yet...think the brownies have extirpated them) year round.  nobody would ever suspect it to have trout when viewed from the road.  Anyways, I found a dandy hiding under a watercress mat that struck the minute my fly hit the water.  I later lost a couple others.  Not bad for a 1/2 lunch break...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/11846799_10154104509478662_6742251663671142499_n_zps59omn6em.jpg)

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 13, 2015, 02:08 AM
Now that's fun!

Way to keep your eyes open Gump :clapping:

I plan to head down south this morning. Gonna check out a few spots on the Genny.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 13, 2015, 07:10 AM
nice and great you hit it even when high ^5
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Aug 13, 2015, 01:38 PM
The color is awesome on those fish nice job
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Aug 13, 2015, 08:06 PM
Nice Brown Gump! It's always nice to discover those little spots that most fishermen wouldn't give a second look at. Did you catch that fish on the infamous "Brookie Buster"?

Rg,

I do have some Tiemco 200R hooks... but all I have at the moment are 14's and 12's.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 14, 2015, 08:10 AM
12's will work if the shank is long enough. Give it a shot. What's the worst that can happen ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 18, 2015, 08:40 AM
fishing has slowed up for me still some gills but the heat is a killer ....drank a lot of water  guys!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 18, 2015, 01:55 PM
Too dang hot for me. Went out Sunday morning real early . Had lots of fun with the gills in the creek with a few bonus smallmouth and a good sized largemouth that took one of my mini buggers. Wading deep was very refreshing.

Other than that I've been making use of my bumper crop of tomatoes. Mmmmmm! Salsa  ;D
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And........... I've been learning to play my Taylor's new Baby Brother.
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I'm now officially addicted to the Ukelele.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: tomturkey on Aug 18, 2015, 02:01 PM


I'm now officially addicted to the Ukelele.

Rg


Do you wear a hula skirt?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 18, 2015, 02:05 PM
Some questions are best left unanswered ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Aug 18, 2015, 03:20 PM
Finally was able to put about a full day in fishing.  A friend invited my to fish the upper Genny with him this past weekend for smallmouth (passed on the trout as the water temps were getting to warm in our opinion for successful releasing after a fight).  Bent some old Lamiglass.  What an incredible blank for these fish (an S-glassSFL 1027s) .  Too much fun !!!  What a great body of water and fishery.  I don't nearly take advantage of it as often as I should...work seems to get in the way   :'(

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/11866208_884666228237168_2273406015732670857_n_zpscakbqwnr.jpg)

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 18, 2015, 03:54 PM
I'm guessing the first bridge south of Portageville?

If so, I was in the same spot last Friday. Water was still up and cloudy so I opted for the ultra light. Quite a few smallies. I also went further south to Fillmore and Belfast as well. Love that section of the Genny.

Glass is good ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Aug 18, 2015, 07:31 PM
A little further upstream....Angelica  ;)


First light there was a cloud of tricos above the run we started at.  My friend picked off a few browns early on them...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 19, 2015, 02:09 AM
Nice! Might venture down that way later this week.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Aug 19, 2015, 02:03 PM


I'm now officially addicted to the Ukelele.

Rg


Sooo... Now we can call you Rg Godfrey?   ;D

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 19, 2015, 04:09 PM
Sorry, "Little Grass Shack" ain't in my repertoire ;D. Boy.....our age is showing bud :-\

I have more fun with blues genre.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Aug 19, 2015, 07:11 PM
Sorry, "Little Grass Shack" ain't in my repertoire ;D. Boy.....our age is showing bud :-\

I have more fun with blues genre.

Rg

Ha Ha!!... I knew you'd get it!! And you're right, it does show more and more each year now. Guys like us are dinosaurs that are fading fast! Enjoy the Uke!!

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Aug 19, 2015, 08:32 PM
Sooo... Now we can call you Rg Godfrey?   ;D


   Or  RG Tiny Tim... ;D
Can you tip toe through the tulips with me... ;D ;D
  
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcSlcNfThUA)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 21, 2015, 02:36 AM
I'd like to remind you that one guy does not normally ask another guy to "Tiptoe through the Tulips" .

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 21, 2015, 02:37 AM
Hey Gump,
I'd sure like to see what flies you were tossing.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 21, 2015, 05:21 AM
I'd like to remind you that one guy does not normally ask another guy to "Tiptoe through the Tulips" .

Rg

NOPE! END OF STORY!  8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 21, 2015, 06:43 AM
enough fish talk and tulip walking we want the  recipe for the salsa RG :)

I have changed tatics  I been strapping the fly rod on the motorcycle and hitting a few  flows ..... thinking today of hitting the lake  the river did come up from the rain ...to be honest fishing for me got slow when it got really hot out ...other then mr whiskers at night
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 21, 2015, 12:10 PM
I can do that Trapper.

Hit the canal in the boat this morning. Plenty of action with bass, crappies and gills. Most on the fly. They liked my "Fuzzy Martini"

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Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 21, 2015, 12:27 PM
Salsa my way  ;D

This recipe is best canned, but it can be kept in the fridge if you eat it within a month or so.

6 cups ripe tomatoes peeled and chopped
2 cups sort of green tomatoes, peeled and chopped
1  1/2 cups chopped green peppers seeded and chopped
1 cup Jalapeño peppers seeded and chopped
1 1/2 cups Hungarian hot peppers seeded and chopped
6-10 garlic cloves minced
2 tsp cumin
2 tsp black pepper
2 tbsp canning salt
1/3 cup sugar
1/3 cup white vinegar
1  15 oz can tomato sauce
1 12 oz can tomato paste

Chop veggies very coarse for chunky salsa.
Mix all together and bring to a slow boil for 10 minutes or until veggies are tender
Follow good canning procedures and Process in hot water bath for an additional 10 minutes
Yields 6-7 pints of outrageous salsa

If you like really hot, add the crazy peppers you like.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Aug 21, 2015, 01:58 PM
Salsa my way  ;D

This recipe is best canned, but it can be kept in the fridge if you eat it within a month or so.

6 cups ripe tomatoes peeled and chopped
2 cups sort of green tomatoes, peeled and chopped
1  1/2 cups chopped green peppers seeded and chopped
1 cup Jalapeño peppers seeded and chopped
1 1/2 cups Hungarian hot peppers seeded and chopped
6-10 garlic cloves minced
2 tsp cumin
2 tsp black pepper
2 tbsp canning salt
1/3 cup sugar
1/3 cup white vinegar
1  15 oz can tomato sauce
1 12 oz can tomato paste

Chop veggies very coarse for chunky salsa.
Mix all together and bring to a slow boil for 10 minutes or until veggies are tender
Follow good canning procedures and Process in hot water bath for an additional 10 minutes
Yields 6-7 pints of outrageous salsa

If you like really hot, add the crazy peppers you like.

Rg

Sounds really good Rg... do you have a preference for the type of tomato sauce you use? If you're like me, you like some brands over others. I personally like a tangy VS a sweet sauce. Just curious if you use a particular brand that makes this sauce outstanding or just OK.  ???

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 21, 2015, 02:36 PM
Just plain old Hunts tomato sauce.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rp dog on Aug 23, 2015, 07:29 PM
Salsa? I think I've seen that recipe used to make rocket fuel !! We have been looking for a new recipe for salsa so we are going to try it.
Rp
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 24, 2015, 03:13 AM
Did another batch yesterday. Threw in some Serrano peppers for a little added strength.

Also I forgot to mention that I drain the chopped tomatoes before I start cooking them. Just put them in a strainer and let them sit while you prep everything else. Makes a much thicker sauce.
 
Did you break in that fly rod yet?

I was on the little stream near my house last evening. Took a while to figure them out, but I got them going. Tossed all kinds of stuff at them with no takers. Then I tied on my "little brown caterpillar" and they went for it. Fun stuff trying to find a pattern.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Dark Cloud on Aug 24, 2015, 11:26 PM
RG - lately I have been skipping the paste and leaving in the tomato juice. Then I strain it to can the salsa then can the juice for soup base or fish poaching liquid  8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 25, 2015, 09:26 AM
RG your salsa  is a  winner!!!  thank you
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 25, 2015, 09:40 AM
You're welcome Trapper. Glad you liked it.

Made pasta sauce yesterday. Nice, spicy, chunky garden style. Need to get some more peppers and onions from the farmers market this afternoon for another batch. I'm really having fun with this canning business.

Pickled green tomatoes are going to finish off the crop ;D

Went to the stream this morning for a bit. Managed a few gills on foam stuff. Then a bass ate the only orange spider I had  and broke me off in the rocks. Figures.....it was the one thing that was working really well.

Back to the bench. Back to the stream this evening ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rp dog on Aug 25, 2015, 08:32 PM
Sorry Rg I've not had chance to use the fly rod yet. Hopefully after Labor Day things will slow down.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 26, 2015, 08:43 AM
I remember work. It always got in the way of fishing.  :-\

Found out the other day that the company I worked for went down the tubes.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Aug 26, 2015, 03:34 PM
I remember work. It always got in the way of fishing.  :-\

Found out the other day that the company I worked for went down the tubes.

Rg

Rg,

As for your first statement, it reminds me of something an Ol' timer I used to work with would say... "Damned work interferes with everything I like to do!"  :D

As for the second... I'm glad for you that you got out in time Bud. I've lost two manufacturing jobs in my lifetime to downsizing or plant closings. My Mrs. lost her manufacturing job of 21 yrs. shortly afterward when her plant closed. I went back to school and earned a Business degree but it hasn't helped much... we're now getting by on half what we used to earn but we worked hard to pay things off early before the crash so we're still able to enjoy the simple pleasures of life like hunting and fishing... I guess life's not so bad after all. I'm just glad I'm not a young person trying to start out in today's world... man, it's gotta be tough!  :(

WK

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 26, 2015, 06:27 PM
Gotta tell you, I'm tired of hearing how tough it is for young folks starting out. Ain't no tougher than when my Bride and I married and started raising our family. No tougher than when my parents started a family either. We worked our butts off to provide for them. It's what parents do.

We've kept things simple most of our lives and enjoyed the simple pleasures. Avoided a lot of stress along the way.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 26, 2015, 07:28 PM
Life is good! 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Aug 27, 2015, 02:00 PM
Gotta tell you, I'm tired of hearing how tough it is for young folks starting out. Ain't no tougher than when my Bride and I married and started raising our family. No tougher than when my parents started a family either. We worked our butts off to provide for them. It's what parents do.

We've kept things simple most of our lives and enjoyed the simple pleasures. Avoided a lot of stress along the way.

Rg


Well, I know for fact there were A LOT more manufacturing jobs available when I started out than there are now. That was before foreign competition came along. All one needed was a high school diploma and a will to work to land a decent job. It's definitely not that way anymore.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 27, 2015, 06:24 PM
With all respect, manufacturing is only one segment of our economy. As you stated, the will to work is most often the determining factor. I earned a living in one form or another for near 55 years if I include my paper route. I could and can always find work.......if I want to. Anyone who says they can't.........simply won't.

My soap box is very worn out. I can feel the slats bending as I type.

Funny thing is, this never entered my mind this afternoon while I was fly fishing or this morning when I was canning up some pickled green tomatoes.

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Life is good Larry ;D
Rg
 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 27, 2015, 07:48 PM
I'd hire an ol Fart like you in a heart beat Bob! Because, you would work! You could put most young guns to shame! The want to work or hardworking ethics are near gone these days.....awful depressing!  :-\
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 28, 2015, 06:29 AM
These days I'd have to take my nap around 11 am or so before I could get back at it ;D

My Grandson says I'm "The Nap King" .

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 28, 2015, 02:35 PM
I could let that hour nap fall in with your lunch break.... ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 28, 2015, 06:40 PM
Half hour is good. I ain't that old yet ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Aug 28, 2015, 07:38 PM
Half hour is good. I ain't that old yet ;D

Rg
:rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Aug 29, 2015, 07:50 AM
Half hour is good. I ain't that old yet ;D

Rg
I am up to an hour for my naps,then i can go for about 3hrs more
but on that last 3 hr, i can not do the fire wood thing,got to do that
in the A.M
 ;D ;D ;D
rat
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Aug 30, 2015, 05:20 PM
Quote
Hey Gump,
I'd sure like to see what flies you were tossing.

Rg

Sorry for the delayed response...was on a little vacation.

For those smallies in the Genny, early in the morning, they took a white gurgler cast close to wood and rocks.  After the sun rose, crayfish pattern.

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 30, 2015, 10:24 PM
well yes  when we wereyoung we always could find work ... that's true and i'msure  you could always find something to do for pay today ,difference is  could you make a living at it?..... I see people  ,good people  having it harder and harder .....it's not like it was when I was a kid or when I was first married  ....it's simply tougher out there today ....between less jobs ...cost of living ...taxes ...health care ....and no job security ...I've seen  GE ,carrior ,chyslers new prosses gear nestles  millers  owens and 100 more  gone ......RG truth is  we got lucky  we had  what we had when we did ...kids now  will not have the opportunitys  that we had ....basicly  government taxed industry  to the point it left.....that's not to say  to give up looking and  tring it's to say you have to look and try harder ... ok enough of this ...I been busy   enjoying mixing my fishing and motorcycle riding and been having a ball country roads  trout streams  in low water conditions trips to my favorite panfish and smallie factorys  .....been a fun time so far
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 31, 2015, 03:03 AM
Nice,  Gump!  I'm heading down tomorrow. Conditions have to be perfect right now. Thanks!

I hit the backyard stream yesterday morning. Some fun smallies, rockys and gills. Took a shot at a few carp. Had a couple lookers but no takers. Probably a good thing. I was using the 3 wt. Should have taken more dry flies with me.



Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: chrony59 on Aug 31, 2015, 07:46 AM
well yes  when we wereyoung we always could find work ... that's true and i'msure  you could always find something to do for pay today ,difference is  could you make a living at it?..... I see people  ,good people  having it harder and harder .....it's not like it was when I was a kid or when I was first married  ....it's simply tougher out there today ....between less jobs ...cost of living ...taxes ...health care ....and no job security ...I've seen  GE ,carrior ,chyslers new prosses gear nestles  millers  owens and 100 more  gone ......RG truth is  we got lucky  we had  what we had when we did ...kids now  will not have the opportunitys  that we had ....basicly  government taxed industry  to the point it left.....that's not to say  to give up looking and  tring it's to say you have to look and try harder ... ok enough of this ...I been busy   enjoying mixing my fishing and motorcycle riding and been having a ball country roads  trout streams  in low water conditions trips to my favorite panfish and smallie factorys  .....been a fun time so far
Well said Trapper ..............I agree 100% maybe if we elect the right person for president we will get some manufacturing jobs back  ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 31, 2015, 11:41 AM
Went to the stream this morning. Got hot and humid in a big hurry. I only lasted 4 hours and I was ready for e cold shower. On the good side, I had a ball with the rockys gills and smallies again. They liked my mini crayfish and some little orange spiders.

One hole I found wasn't more than 15' across. Manages 8 rockys, 4 gills and 2 smallmouth from that one little spot. Surprising since it was well upstream from the deeper pools.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Aug 31, 2015, 03:06 PM
well yes  when we wereyoung we always could find work ... that's true and i'msure  you could always find something to do for pay today ,difference is  could you make a living at it?..... I see people  ,good people  having it harder and harder .....it's not like it was when I was a kid or when I was first married  ....it's simply tougher out there today ....between less jobs ...cost of living ...taxes ...health care ....and no job security ...I've seen  GE ,carrior ,chyslers new prosses gear nestles  millers  owens and 100 more  gone ......RG truth is  we got lucky  we had  what we had when we did ...kids now  will not have the opportunitys  that we had ....basicly  government taxed industry  to the point it left.....that's not to say  to give up looking and  tring it's to say you have to look and try harder ... ok enough of this ...I been busy   enjoying mixing my fishing and motorcycle riding and been having a ball country roads  trout streams  in low water conditions trips to my favorite panfish and smallie factorys  .....been a fun time so far

Glad someone agrees with me...

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 04, 2015, 01:45 PM
hey RG want to post the  secret recipe  to the  pickled green tomatos? they look good  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Sep 04, 2015, 02:34 PM
Anyone tying? I have lots of peacock tail feathers....    ;D
Free..  PM me your address..... 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 04, 2015, 03:14 PM
I already have enough to leave to some worthy tier in my will ;D

Spent my day on the creek.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image.jpg1_zpsngliqkvq.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image.jpg1_zpsngliqkvq.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image.jpg2_zpsivkepoq9.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image.jpg2_zpsivkepoq9.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image.jpg3_zps3fddl4ul.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image.jpg3_zps3fddl4ul.jpg.html)

Just kept changing flies and catching fish. It was a good 4 miles of stream. Had my Bride pick me up to retrieve my vehicle. Saw some monster carp, but I didn't get involved with them. Long wade, lots of fish, hardly any bugs.....life is good!

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 04, 2015, 03:31 PM
Pickled Green Tomatoes (http://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/index.php?topic=67799.msg724145#msg724145)


If you think those are good Trapper, you should try the sweet, hot  pickled  Cauliflower ;D
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Mmmmmmmmmm! Good!

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 04, 2015, 07:15 PM
my mom use to  make  pickled cauliflower,carrots and  celery . it  was really good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Sep 04, 2015, 07:40 PM
Nice job on the creek Bob... :clapping: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 05, 2015, 09:31 AM
Went this morning for a little while. Man it got hot and muggy quick. Guess I'll play on the bench for a while. I've been thinking about furling up some short leaders. Maybe 30-36" or so. I'm thinking they might be better for popper and dry fly fishing.

Worth a try anyway.



Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rp dog on Sep 05, 2015, 09:04 PM
As soon as I get the Estate sale stuff that didn't sell out of my son's building back to moms house I'm going fishing. I've got to move stuff out so I can get to my boat. I've got a date with a new fly rod and hopefully a fresh mess of bluegill fillets.
Rp
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Sep 06, 2015, 09:03 AM
Anyone tying? I have lots of peacock tail feathers....    ;D
Free..  PM me your address..... 

PM sent!!  ;D  ;D

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Sep 06, 2015, 09:16 AM
Mrs. and I had planned all week on fishing the Susky with my flatbottom Saturday. Went up to help a friend bring in a second cutting of hay after work Friday and when I got home desperately in need of a shower she said "We don't have any water"... turns out our well pump decided to take a holiday along with everyone else!  >:(  Called the fella who installed it some years back and he was tied up all day Saturday with his son's wedding so he's coming today to pull it while I'm at work.

Needless to say we didn't go fishing but I did get a shower at her sister's place. Oh well, such is life.

WK 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 06, 2015, 06:47 PM
Sometimes life just seems to get in the way of a fishing day.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 06, 2015, 06:50 PM
ya  coulda bathed in the  creek ya know ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 07, 2015, 09:47 AM
Wouldn't have been the first time ;D

Furled up some 48" leaders yesterday for the 3 and 5 wt. Tried them this morning on the 5 wt and was very pleased with the way they turned over both big and small flies.  Much easier than the 60" or 72" on a smallish stream.

Limitless possibilities with furled leaders.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 07, 2015, 02:54 PM
I still have not worn one out!!!! countless  fish and abuse ....good stuff  RG  :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: I will be  doing the  salmon test soon
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 07, 2015, 05:01 PM
I have the first one I furled up longer ago than I can remember. It took so many fish

Maybe I better send along one of the carp leaders. I mean, that's what they are....carp with teeth. ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 07, 2015, 07:08 PM
no worrys  leader  doesn't  get  close to their  mouth  :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Sep 08, 2015, 04:43 PM
ya  coulda bathed in the  creek ya know ;D

Sorry trapper...I didn't do that but I did haul up a few 5 gal pails of creek water to flush the throne with! We had plenty of bottled water for drinking and cooking. Turns out the pressure tank shot craps so he didn't have to pull the pump... a lot cheaper fix too!  ;D

WK
 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 09, 2015, 11:07 AM
Couldn't raise much for fish this morning so I picked a few crayfish for tomorrow.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image.jpg1_zpselqkuxbs.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image.jpg1_zpselqkuxbs.jpg.html)



Big front coming in right now. Sky is pretty black. Finally some rain :clapping:

Should get things going.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 09, 2015, 11:20 AM
gollyyyyyy crawdads and cornbread  you'd make granny clampett proud
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Sep 09, 2015, 12:00 PM
Those crawdads look tasty!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 09, 2015, 01:24 PM
I'm thinking the bass will love them. I'll eat shrimp thankyou ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Sep 11, 2015, 10:06 AM
First time in New Orleans I ate a pile of crawfish.  They are really good but I dont think id take the time to clean as many as I ate!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Sep 11, 2015, 12:44 PM
Here is a 5" cray fish trying to crawl back out of the mouth of a 13" bass I caught on a crank bait a couple of weeks ago....... ;D ;D

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 11, 2015, 01:16 PM
Greedy bugger eh ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Sep 12, 2015, 09:26 AM
You guys ever seen one with a mouse in it's throat?  I have, surprised me!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Sep 12, 2015, 12:22 PM
You guys ever seen one with a mouse in it's throat?  I have, surprised me!


   I have had one regurgitate a small rat at the side of the boat....    :sick:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Sep 12, 2015, 12:44 PM
Could be fun throwing mice patterns for them in the flyrod.  I still need to drag myself to cabelas to replace the rod my buddy stepped on..
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 13, 2015, 04:59 PM
Went to the stream this afternoon for a couple hours. I needed some fresh air. Checked it this morning and remarkably, even after more than an inch of rain, it was up but still relatively clear. Anyway, I opted for the ultralight and a pocket full of Rooster Tails to keep it simple and not have to wade.

First stop, 5 casts, 3 smallmouth, 1 largemouth, 1 rock bass. Second stop, a few gills, a dozen or so rock bass and 1 smallmouth. What fun!

Tomorrow is promised to no one so.......I'll see where the spirit takes me ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Sep 15, 2015, 09:32 PM
Nice RG.


Last few weeks, in between heat waves, when the water temps got cool enough, I poked around a few trout haunts...

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 16, 2015, 03:47 AM
You're sure having fun with The Brookie Buster. 

What's that reel you hackle on it?

The Genny ought to be in real nice shape after this dry spell. Wanna take a ride?

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Sep 16, 2015, 09:22 AM
I been trying to tie a orange crystal meth fly  ??? Just can't get it rite..anyone have an easy tie for that
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 16, 2015, 11:49 AM
Never tied one. They ought to pick a different name.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Sep 16, 2015, 02:19 PM
Gumo, did you get them on a trico? Tricos have been working most mornings.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Sep 16, 2015, 02:54 PM
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What's that reel you hackle on it?

The Genny ought to be in real nice shape after this dry spell. Wanna take a ride?

Actually Bob, that is an old #4/5 wt. Lamiglass I built last winter.  It has been my go to rod most of the summer.  Its paired with an old trusty Martin 65



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Would love to take a ride but I am tied up likely for about 2 weeks between work and a trip up north next week with the wife.  Heading into the ADK's for 4-5 days.  Yes I plan on fishing   ;D

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Gumo, did you get them on a trico? Tricos have been working most mornings.

Yepper
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Sep 16, 2015, 02:57 PM
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I been trying to tie a orange crystal meth fly  huh Just can't get it rite..anyone have an easy tie for that

You referring to the egg pattern?

All it really is, is 'sucker spawn' fly tied with diamond braid.  That's how I tie mine anyways...

Look up sucker spawn fly on you tube.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 16, 2015, 03:38 PM
Heck of a spring time carp fly.

Let me know when you get back Gump. Plenty of season left.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Oct 03, 2015, 06:58 AM
Hit some pay dirt while hiking around the Fulton Chain in the ADK's last week.  Tried a flow between a couple lakes on a hunch and I found a few.

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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/20150926_070738_resized_zpsaxb6qukq.jpg)

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: icejohn on Oct 03, 2015, 06:52 PM
Man...those are beautiful pics....frameable material. Great job.
icejohn
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Oct 04, 2015, 06:44 PM
Just got back from Martha's Vineyard, watching the guys nail albies on the fly rod was awesome.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 05, 2015, 09:50 AM
well I been busy chasing deer  geese and ducksi got the 8 weight in the jeep i'll be checking a few streams ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Dec 01, 2015, 12:01 AM
Between hunting and low and clear water conditions on many streams in western NY, I haven't done much fishing.  Had the bug this past weekend however and drove to find water...big water.   150,000 cfs ain't for the faint of heart !  ::)


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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Dec 01, 2015, 06:04 AM
Way to go Gump..   Beautiful NR laker....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Dec 01, 2015, 12:18 PM
Whoo-Hoo the Niagara River! Nice fish Gump, that looks like a good time. Did you build that rod?

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Dec 01, 2015, 09:02 PM
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Way to go Gump..   Beautiful NR laker....

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Whoo-Hoo the Niagara River! Nice fish Gump, that looks like a good time. Did you build that rod?

Thanks guys.  What a beautiful place to fish.  Had a bald Eagle soaring right under the bridge too.

  No didn't build the rod.  It's a Cabelas Lsi  11' #7 switch.  My big water stick.  It's been a real nice entry level switch rod for me for steelhead.  I happened to see they are about half price right now too...that always stings... :wacko:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Dec 02, 2015, 01:27 AM
You're a fly fishing machine!

What did you get it on?

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Dec 05, 2015, 04:26 PM
As strange it may sound, sucker spawn flies and glo bugs under an indicator.  We were targeting steelhead but these guys wanted to gobble our offerings.
 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Dec 06, 2015, 11:03 PM
December 6 and I was kayaking.  I'll take it.  Chased some toothy critters on fly. 

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/20151206_141230_resized_zpsm6mah9ot.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2015%20fishing/20151206_141833_resized_zpsinoruijq.jpg)

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Dec 07, 2015, 05:29 AM
Great pictures Gump.... :thumbup_smilie: :clapping:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Dec 07, 2015, 07:16 AM
Great pictures Gump.... :thumbup_smilie: :clapping:
2X that, nice pike ,thanks for sharing
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 21, 2016, 08:16 PM
well I been chasing some chrome in the small water along with filling the  freezer with perch ......I have the fly boxes  filled 3  rods  ready my vest set  and I'm ready for the new season ....remember fishing licenses  now  go date to date ...match sure yours is good!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Mar 22, 2016, 10:13 AM

And if I'm not mistaken new books come out in April , so check for changes , many of us ol timers still do our licenses in October , but need to get a book before a new license
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: hunts2long on Mar 22, 2016, 01:16 PM
I picked new book up last week at town hall. They had just came in. Changes are in "RED" for the old guys.h2l
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 22, 2016, 03:30 PM
And if I'm not mistaken new books come out in April , so check for changes , many of us ol timers still do our licenses in October , but need to get a book before a new license

they are out now! I just got one  from wal mart  couple days ago ......my question can we still fish with 3 rods?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Mar 22, 2016, 03:37 PM
Even though I get a lifetime licence in the mail every year I still stop at a local licence agent and get my syllabus and always read it...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Mar 22, 2016, 03:48 PM
I picked new book up last week at town hall. They had just came in. Changes are in "RED" for the old guys.h2l
Just got a pair of glasses to cure that problem lol,
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 22, 2016, 03:58 PM
I have glasses ,still blind
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Mar 22, 2016, 04:04 PM
I have glasses ,still blind
But we both use yellow line I'm on high viz yellow power pro , and your a golden stren guy  ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 22, 2016, 04:06 PM
I got a spool of the power pro for walleye  jigging,going to try it out
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 22, 2016, 04:54 PM
Old farts :rotflol:

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Mar 22, 2016, 05:28 PM
Old farts :rotflol:

Rg
Yes sir , i resemble that remark lol
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 22, 2016, 06:06 PM
Freddie I think RG has us by a few years  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Mar 22, 2016, 06:13 PM
Freddie I think RG has us by a few years  ;D
That was a rumor going around  :o
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 22, 2016, 06:18 PM
66 going on 26. Well......most days anyway.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 22, 2016, 06:20 PM
out of respect we should call him gramps I guess
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 23, 2016, 03:13 AM
That title I've earned!

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Mar 23, 2016, 06:39 AM
Rg...Right behind you at 65.  We still have to get together sometime for the foam popper challenge - Bob's vs the Gurgle Pop. ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 23, 2016, 10:34 AM
foam popper challenge hmmmmmmmm  go with a crease fly
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 23, 2016, 02:18 PM
Rg...Right behind you at 65.  We still have to get together sometime for the foam popper challenge - Bob's vs the Gurgle Pop. ;D

I'm game any time.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 25, 2016, 05:07 AM
I'm going to get wet today but I got the waders and  rain jacket ready going to go give it a shot
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 29, 2016, 05:35 PM
well everything is ready  for  opening  of trout   loaded in jeep and  triple checked  ;D I really can't wait  todrift a  nymph and  see that  strick indicator  jump up stream  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Apr 01, 2016, 12:39 AM
Bring some dry flies with ya too....just in case. Mayfly Hatches started down my way this week along with the little black caddis and stoneflies which have been coming off for awhile. Not sure what is happening up on the northern streams, but the bugs are hatching and the trout are rising down this way . 2 days ago (wed.) very good hatches of Quill Gordons , Blue Quills, along with some olives and caddis.  Had 1 of my best ever dry fly days for a  March day Wednesday in breezy conditions , trout after trout after trout took my dries and I landed a beautiful 21" rainbow that took a #18 Blue Quill and would have been a legal keeper on the Salmon River !  My little #3 weight has been getting a workout and I have been smiling all week. :D

Heres the big Rainbow from Wed.
(http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu226/choo-choo-steve/0330161606a.jpg) (http://s650.photobucket.com/user/choo-choo-steve/media/0330161606a.jpg.html)

Good luck to all you guy's going out on the opener today....and the rest of the season too.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 01, 2016, 02:30 AM
Fine looking fish Choo Choo.

Looks like the little 3 weight could use some rehabilitation.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 01, 2016, 04:43 AM
worn rods and big rainbows .......the perfect combination :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Apr 01, 2016, 07:31 AM
Fine looking fish Choo Choo.

Looks like the little 3 weight could use some rehabilitation.

Rg
Thanks Rg.....
Good eye Rg, she is over 23 years old and a beat up little old warrior. Cork is shot, hook keeper & winding check are gone, reelseat worn .............but she still likes to "hunt" and fish with me , flexes and loads like a dream still after all these years, and it is my favorite rod for trout. I just hate to put a knife into her......but I think this is the year I will operate and have her looking good again. I bought the blank in 1993, a blemished Sage blank, just under 9' , #3 weight  LL light line series. I built it for 100 bucks including blank... all components other than the blank from an old guy named Harold who had a retail and mail order shop in Sloatsburg NY, which is long gone now..... Midland Tackle .
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 01, 2016, 01:38 PM
you are fishing a  sage  and  you only have  a bill invested????   :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 01, 2016, 05:30 PM
Think of it as a labor of love. I've rebuilt several of my "old faithful " rods. Did my all time favorite last winter. A Pfleuger Medalist IM6 I've been fishing for some 30 + years. It seems very happy with the facelift.

Funny how a fly rod can become an extension of your arm. So comfortable you forget everything and just put the fly where you want it to be. That's when it becomes fly fishing.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Apr 01, 2016, 09:42 PM
Think of it as a labor of love. I've rebuilt several of my "old faithful " rods. Did my all time favorite last winter. A Pfleuger Medalist IM6 I've been fishing for some 30 + years. It seems very happy with the facelift.

Funny how a fly rod can become an extension of your arm. So comfortable you forget everything and just put the fly where you want it to be. That's when it becomes fly fishing.

Rg
Nice Rg...labor of love ...I will keep that in mind when I do the repairs.
And well said Rg...extension of your arm...put the fly where it needs to be. :thumbup_smilie:
you are fishing a  sage  and  you only have  a bill invested????   :thumbup_smilie:
Yes, I bought the blanks from a fly shop in Washington State who were selling the Sage Blanks real cheap.... they were Sage factory blemished blanks that could not be sold for full retail value....but they were just cosmetic blemishes and the 3 weights were just like 65 or 70 bucks instead of over double  that at the time, for a perfect Factory blank. I bought and built some others too..a 4 weight, 5 weight 7 weight and an 8 weight , those are all RPL's and were a little more money but still dirt cheap blemished blanks. They don't sell the Sage blanks like that anymore. 8)



Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 02, 2016, 03:10 AM
I get some blemished Rainshadow IM 6 blanks from a fellow on eBay. They run around $45 delivered. Built a 10' 6 wt for myself this year. Haven't wet a line with it yet, but it felt good in the back yard with a DT 5 F on it. I think it's gonna be a long distance shooter ;D. Should be nice in the boat and on the rivers.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Apr 04, 2016, 06:45 AM
Well this weather is slowing down our spring fishing and not many posts or pictures, so I thought I would warm things up a little. Fished Saturday afternoon at 2 of my favorite rivers, the Lower Beaverkill near Horton & Chiloway then the East Branch of the  D below Fish's Eddy. Weather was windy, breezy, cloudy, sunny , raining with the temperature cooling through the afternoon. A couple times I said "this is ridiculous " impossible to cast or fish, and almost went home....but there were just enough breaks in the wind /rain,and a few peaks of sunshine, then full sun late which keep me and the trout happy. Spurts of hatching between the squalls had the trout looking up and feeding and I was able to land some browns and bows. Interesting to see the different color and spotting patterns from the different age/size fish coming from the same river system. Smaller class of fish Saturday, but lot's of elbow room ...very few fisherman along those stretches of river.Here are some of the fish from Sat., cell phone pics:
(http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu226/choo-choo-steve/1459363669995.jpg) (http://s650.photobucket.com/user/choo-choo-steve/media/1459363669995.jpg.html)

(http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu226/choo-choo-steve/0331161536.jpg) (http://s650.photobucket.com/user/choo-choo-steve/media/0331161536.jpg.html)

(http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu226/choo-choo-steve/0401161615.jpg) (http://s650.photobucket.com/user/choo-choo-steve/media/0401161615.jpg.html)

(http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu226/choo-choo-steve/0402161557a.jpg) (http://s650.photobucket.com/user/choo-choo-steve/media/0402161557a.jpg.html)

(http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu226/choo-choo-steve/0402161603.jpg) (http://s650.photobucket.com/user/choo-choo-steve/media/0402161603.jpg.html)

(http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu226/choo-choo-steve/0402161638.jpg) (http://s650.photobucket.com/user/choo-choo-steve/media/0402161638.jpg.html)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: kc on Apr 04, 2016, 08:31 AM
nice job Steve
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Apr 04, 2016, 08:37 AM
Steve what were they hitting? I caught mine on a #16 BWO. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Apr 05, 2016, 06:39 AM
 Thanks kc and oat..... Saturday was challenging , but  fun.

 oatkasut.....16 & 18 Blue Dun /Blue Quill...and traditional style Dun hackled, wood duck winged, Quill Gordon 14
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: perchgypsy on Apr 05, 2016, 07:59 AM
Choo choo your on fire this spring...trout magnet  ;D
that last pic that rainbow has beautiful markings
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: choo choo on Apr 05, 2016, 08:25 AM
Choo choo your on fire this spring...trout magnet  ;D
that last pic that rainbow has beautiful markings
Thanks perchgypsy....  16"/17" acrobatic screaming bullet , drop dead gorgeous fish ...late afternoon,... and a great way to end the day.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 07, 2016, 08:01 PM
got a new rod  today I wanted a  nicer 9WT I decided on the TFO  NXT series 9 foot 4  piece ....it's  fresh and  salt water rated ....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 08, 2016, 02:17 AM
Love the TFO rods.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 08, 2016, 05:10 AM
RG it's beautiful  loads  nice and throws a clouser  out there nice looking  rod  reasonable  price  and  good performance ......guess i'll have  to go up and  chase a few fall backs now
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 08, 2016, 03:21 PM
I have 2 and have built several more on their blanks. The Finesse series is just a pleasure to fish with.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 08, 2016, 06:32 PM
once I  took it  out  RG  I was hooked  ,it  just felt good in my hand
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 23, 2016, 04:31 AM
getting ready  for  my  favorite   flyfishing  ever!  the   rockbass  are  starting to  show !  armed  with  clousers and wollybuggers  we  shall make  our  attack shortly! finishin  touches  to my preparation are  being completed  ...... wash out the  jon boat and  check the  registration ......put  the   big cooler in .......a new  electric knife  and a  fresh  box of  zip locks ....... ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Apr 23, 2016, 05:54 AM
Nothing better eating than a "red-eye", right Trap?  Oops, I let the cat out of the bag. ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 24, 2016, 05:08 AM
you can eat them?  :whistling:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 28, 2016, 06:27 PM
had a great time today met a couple very nice  guys and enjoyed a  sunny day on a trout stream, here are a few for diner

(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/untitledtrout_zpsikafi3lr.png)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Apr 28, 2016, 07:25 PM
Nice browns trapper I was thinking about that tomarrow but I think crappie fishing instead..once again nice fish
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: perchgypsy on Apr 28, 2016, 07:43 PM
Nice salmon trap  :w00t: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 28, 2016, 08:05 PM
yes spotted brown creek run land locked king salmon to be exact ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Apr 28, 2016, 11:29 PM

Well done Trapp
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Apr 29, 2016, 05:57 AM
Well done, Trapper! ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Apr 29, 2016, 06:42 AM
trapper
great looking browns,and some nice photos thanks for sharing
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 29, 2016, 03:20 PM
well ty  ....today was  very similar with the fishing  lots of action .....the spot I been fishing  has  some  very nice fellow fisherman yesterday I fished with a couple  vets and had a wonderful time!  today I ran back into one of them  plus a young man and his mom and dad ....was great to see a family share the outdoors together .

I honestly don't know how many fish I caught  or how man I had on ,I can say I really had fun ....the day started out good  the  fish wanted muddlers  or prince nymphs   as the morning progressed bead head scuds  came into play ....I ended up keeping  diner again and the grill is warming up as I write this ....

(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/untitledtrout2_zpsidp5nayb.png)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Apr 29, 2016, 04:42 PM
Great job Trapp...  :clapping: :bowdown: :thumbup_smilie:
I have yet to hit a stream this year... >:(
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 29, 2016, 05:53 PM
dacker i'm haveing a great time and i hope you get out there soon
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Apr 29, 2016, 08:01 PM
Man trap makes me kick myself in the but for not having replaced my fly rod yet.  Moreso when I stopped at the stream on my street and the trout were slurping flys...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 30, 2016, 03:21 PM
low if we lived  closer i'd  loan ya a  rod and  make you come with me  ;D

today  was  unexpected !  first because i riped my waders i  grabed  the  neos and wadeing shoes i  got to the stream at about  6 and  looked like i clearly beat the  crown so i  took my time  putting on my waders .....rather glad i did it apperas a mouse had used my wadeing shoes as a  bedroom and toilet  ...so  after   empting that out i  got dressed and  walked  to the  stream ...it had  come up and was  stained :'(  after  a  few  cast the  fish  started to respond and  i was  all smiles ..... it's funny how  some  people  make a  impression on us and  when i hooked this  guy my mind  though of  river rat 

(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/untitledbrookie_zps6hbnanno.png)

now i'm no expert rat but my  guess is  this  is a carpenters brook fish hatchery  delievered  by truck strain .....but  he was  pretty and  fun  and  ireally  did thinkof  you   :)

after  that i  noticed  the water  started  to  clear  and i never  had that happen  before  but the  stain  got less  and  the  fishing was  good ...i started noticeing  some  mayflies  in the  air  then seen  some  rings in a pool .......ahhhhhhhh my  first 3  of the  year on  drys  came .....nothing specialasize  14 addams ..... then  the realunexpected  i had  not seen a  black  fly   this  year  untill  today  and  when they appeared they were in numbers and  hungry ...i decided to call it a  day and  walked  out   ...last  cast i  got this  colorful  little  brown  and that was the  perfect ending  to my trip today ....

(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/untitledbrown_zpsnuzwv4gs.png)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Apr 30, 2016, 03:54 PM
Sounds like it was a fun morning, Trap.   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 01, 2016, 01:41 PM
fishing you would have  enjoyed watching me today! i woke up at 430 this morning grabbed a cup of coffee and headed to the stream .....i can proudly say i was the first one on the water.....almost!!!!

i waded out to a nice current edge and  started  drifting a nymph ...after a few smallish fish i was feeling my oats  ......then out of the  corner of my eye i seen movement  so i turned to see a big raccoon about 3 foot away   swimming accross the creek ...well i seen him  he seen me and all  h--- broke loose .....i steped back and  turned on  slippery rocks and even with corkers i went  for a swim ...the raccoon as surprized   as i was tried to turn and swim agaist the current ....it didn't workwell for him ......in all honesty we  did not look like a  dyed in the wool flyfisherman and a  wild raccoon at all i think we resembledthe old monkey and foot ball.....  i was splashing the coon was splashing ...finally i got upand  mr coon made it to the other side.....where he  walked the shore line slowlylooking at me and i at him ......now i'm soaked and cold i walked back to the car and  stripped down putting on the  dry cloths i carry  mumbling profanitys and laughing at my foolishness  as i returned to the stream i seen mr coon one more tome  he had a  green and white bobber that waslost by someone  in the  brush .......  i did well on the  trout after but my mind would  drift to my swim  and i'd chuckle  again ........

                                                                                                                                                  life is really good ...thank you God ....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: perchgypsy on May 01, 2016, 05:51 PM
 :rotflol: :rotflol: dam trap that's a good story...thanks for sharing that ...coon got the best of ya
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on May 02, 2016, 06:36 AM
 
Cool story Trapp , glad you didn't get banged up from the fall we don't heal as quick as we use to
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 02, 2016, 11:25 AM
I was more worried about getting bit  :rotflol:

my flyrod didn't get hurt lol
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on May 02, 2016, 12:26 PM
I knew the rod was safe seems like when we fall that arm is always up in the air or tossed out of way of the falling zone , far as the coon I'm sure he was worried if you had all your shots   :o
I'll have to tell ya about the beaver in the stream with me , and the next time you talk to KP ask him how release called a nice Tom over the weekend
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 02, 2016, 06:29 PM
wheres RG been????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 02, 2016, 06:31 PM
had a;ot of beaver come close  wadeing  crappie fishing at night .....not really a frendly animal
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 02, 2016, 06:58 PM
wheres RG been????
he's working on getting a small business up and running with his son. I'm sure he'll surface at some point. I wanna see pictures of their woodwork! 😊

You quit messin' with those coons....their family to the OGGO POGGO bud! 😄
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on May 02, 2016, 07:34 PM
I wish I could have watched that, Trap.  Great story.  Made me smile.  ;D

The thought of you thrashing in the water brought me back to a lesson I learned many years ago fishing with my grandfather, even though no raccoon was involved. We were fishing along a river one summer day after some thunderstorms the day before. The water was stained and higher than normal.  There was a downed tree that ran from the bank out with its root ball on the edge of the current. I knew it held a brown, but the only way I could see to fish it was to walk the log to get to the roots. Well, I fell off into the drink.  I was thrashing and swimming for all I was worth when I heard,  "Are you all right? "
I managed to get out a "yeah" in the midst of the struggle to save my own life.  
"Well then stop that thrashing around and stand up!  You're gonna scare the fish! "
I put my feet down and stood up in water that wasn't knee deep.  I never forgot that, and I've told people through the years to "Just stand up! "   ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: perchgypsy on May 02, 2016, 09:04 PM
Lol ...just stand up
with a name like trapper you would think a coon and beaver is your main deal
well my name isn't trapper but I've handled a couple nasty beavers in my day  :w00t: :w00t:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 03, 2016, 07:53 AM
growing upon salmon river and little salmon i have had a little experace  standing  back up after slipping
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 03, 2016, 05:57 PM
I'm around keeping an eye on y'all. KP's correct. I'm up to no good again.

Guess you're never to old for foolishness ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 04, 2016, 04:26 AM
about time you made a appearance ya know

 ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 05, 2016, 03:22 AM
My backyard stream is near being ready. And, I'll be testing the new 6 wt on the canal this weekend. Other than that, most of my time has been spent in the new "Little Wood Shop".

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 05, 2016, 06:15 AM
well as long as your having fun andeverythingis all good  ;D............... heck of a trout season out there RG .....and  I think i'll have the jon boat on the rock bass this afternoon........now seeing your working in a little wood shop we all would love to see a few of the projects and any thing to organize flie tools or materials???? ;D.......one more thing one of your leaders  has probably handled more trout then most people catch in a life time .....they are winners  RG

lifes good  ....go fish
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 05, 2016, 05:54 PM
That's the problem with those leaders. They last too long. You only need one. I figure on including mine in my last will and testament.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 07, 2016, 04:40 AM
trout streams were a bit high and stained over my way so I went down for some rock bass action the and yes the bite was on! ididabout ahalfbucket then said enough it was a bit rough with the jon boat and I have a feeling they will be waitting for me  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 08, 2016, 05:35 PM
well  most trout streams are high and the wind kept me off the lake  so I hit a few small waters  one by my house runs threw a field  giving mea shot with the  fly rod ,the state does put in about 4 or 5 hundred browns in this stream but I think all the brookies are native unless a accident ....rat   this one is for you ...(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/7_zps7dhflzox.png)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on May 11, 2016, 08:38 PM
Well done trap! Here's one from Tuesday afternoon, my biggest small stream dry fly trout.
(http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag33/MattyP5290/IMG_0978_zpsb02iy5m2.png) (http://s1297.photobucket.com/user/MattyP5290/media/IMG_0978_zpsb02iy5m2.png.html)
(http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag33/MattyP5290/IMG_0977_zpshxetirib.png) (http://s1297.photobucket.com/user/MattyP5290/media/IMG_0977_zpshxetirib.png.html)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 11, 2016, 09:11 PM
matty  :thumbup_smilie:

I noticed a large caddis hatch on my home river this evening  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: perchgypsy on May 11, 2016, 10:48 PM
Nice brookie trap
nice brown matt👍
Good job on your pb
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on May 12, 2016, 06:08 PM
No such luck this evening on the surface. Did find out I need new waders though   :-\
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on May 12, 2016, 06:50 PM
Nice job on the trouts guys..
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 13, 2016, 06:57 AM
it's a tough job dacker but matty and I are  up for the challenge  ;D

and the rewards  are a great diner!

(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/diner_zpsikg5gyfm.png)

pan fried trout venison back straps and saute mushrooms and  onions...it don't get any better then that  ;D

life is good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: chrony59 on May 13, 2016, 07:08 AM
Looks awesome Trapper ..................... a little outdoorsmen's Surf and Turf    :clapping: :bowdown:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 13, 2016, 07:19 AM
and  dinning on the  deck  :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: icejohn on May 13, 2016, 05:20 PM
That looks like a meal fit for a king........people would pay dearly for a meal like that.
icejohn
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on May 13, 2016, 06:35 PM
Dang Trap, that looks great. Nearly kept a few rockbass today. Problem is, I don't know if you guys are serious about them or if it's a long standing prank to get people to eat crow  :P
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 13, 2016, 06:55 PM
Dang Trap, that looks great. Nearly kept a few rockbass today. Problem is, I don't know if you guys are serious about them or if it's a long standing prank to get people to eat crow  :P

honest to God  matty I  keep  rock bass and  they are  one of my  most favorite  fish  filleted  and  deep  fried  mmmmmmmmm try it  you'll love  it
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: perchgypsy on May 14, 2016, 07:46 AM
Few years back I  caught  the occasional rock bass in canadarago lake while perch fishing,only time I ever kept a few ,
filet them along side yellow perch and nobody spit any out,couldn't tell the difference
really not sure if I ate them or another guy at my card game ,but like I said nobody knew a difference
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: big_guy_13021 on May 15, 2016, 07:11 AM
Matty rockbass are good I deep fry them to..there just like a panfish..only thing different is the strip of meat is bigger than most gills thicker.try a few there good
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: skinny40 on May 15, 2016, 08:03 AM
Rock bass are good! I take them all. Blue gills, pumpkin seeds and rock bass are all the same. They clean better than pumpkin seeds and are bigger. My friend takes all the small bass out the ice home too and says if there caught thru ice there good. I chuck them back but to be honest...I would rather have a bucket of red eyes over a bucket of perch. Breaded or battered and fried and dunked in hot sauce. I just love my pan fish. If your catching a lot of rock bass and not keeping them let me know where. I will come and thin them out for you. Lol
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: icejohn on May 15, 2016, 06:41 PM
Rockies are real good......
If you ate a smaller one with plate of gills you'd never know the difference. The bigger ones just as good but you know they're not gills......it's almost Rockie time on sodus bay and a blast fishing for them. Try it.
icejohn
Title: Re: old f
Post by: MattyP123 on May 16, 2016, 06:21 PM
Ok I'll have to give them a try! Has there been a thread on here along the lines of "hey fly guys, what's hatching?" ? Nothing to specific to ones home stretch of water If they don't  want to reveal, but by county or by DEC regions..
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 16, 2016, 06:51 PM
different hatches  can happen  anywhere watch the water  ...some  Addams, olives  cahills will get you threw most  and  have  some  caddis  flies with you hendricksons  are  big at times  on the  catskill streams ....I usually match  when I see  the  hatch ...tip  carry a  few  sharpie markers
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on May 21, 2016, 04:03 PM
Did some stocky bashing on Fall and Salmon creeks today
(http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag33/MattyP5290/IMG_0994_zpsiqz7ppyz.jpg) (http://s1297.photobucket.com/user/MattyP5290/media/IMG_0994_zpsiqz7ppyz.jpg.html)
Managed a bunch of cookie cutter brookies, a few decent browns and a rainbow. All on dries. Dumb stockies but hey, they fought angry and the variety was nice  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 21, 2016, 05:03 PM
matty  you seem  to be having a  great  year ^5 ....you know  stocked  or  not  catching  trout on  drys  takes  some skill .... and I have to tell you I fished  a lot  of back country streams  and the  natives  weren't to bright either
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on May 21, 2016, 05:27 PM
I've come a long way since I started fly fishing last summer trap  ;). Thanks to you, RG and the great folks on here  :bowdown:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 22, 2016, 11:22 AM
well.... I think that's what this site is all about is  sharing ,learning from each other and having a few  laughs along the way , makes me feel good that you are  enjoying yourself :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 22, 2016, 05:47 PM
Had some fun with the smallies and gills on the fly this morning.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpstfqge23q.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpstfqge23q.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zps2rhoppr6.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zps2rhoppr6.jpeg.html)

Just an hour or so on the backyard stream.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 22, 2016, 06:31 PM
about time  old  boy   ;D glad  ya  got  the  stink off  ya ....enjoy
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on May 22, 2016, 06:39 PM
I didn't know you fished!Great to see that you got out and tried that homemade bait.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on May 22, 2016, 09:39 PM
about time  old  boy   ;D glad  ya  got  the  stink off  ya ....enjoy

x2
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 23, 2016, 03:09 AM
I've been fishing guys. Just not bragging about it ;D

The crossover jigs are pretty awesome flies.

On the other hand, the birdhouse shop has been busy.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsr50jb5wc.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsr50jb5wc.jpeg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsebcrrkct.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsebcrrkct.jpeg.html)

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on May 23, 2016, 02:50 PM

Nice houses RG , now tell us the truth are you useing them to collect feathers  :w00t:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 23, 2016, 04:59 PM
Well, the bluebirds have rented my garden house. I can only hope they molt.

Whipped up a mini cedar shingle shear to make bird house shingles.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsvu1jzgbo.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsvu1jzgbo.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsksohpcqz.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsksohpcqz.jpeg.html)

Little imagination, a little know how.....cut a bucket of shingles from underlay in maybe 20 minutes.

How I love to tinker with stuff ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on May 23, 2016, 07:33 PM
Won't brag about fish, but will about bird house shingles per minute  ;D . Just messin' Bob!
Nice houses RG , now tell us the truth are you useing them to collect feathers  :w00t:
Hence the easy access front door too collect and clean!
Really nice houses, your a heck of a craftsman RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on May 23, 2016, 08:55 PM
You're always up to something, great looking condos.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on May 23, 2016, 10:10 PM
Nice tool.  Seriously!   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 24, 2016, 04:51 PM
i gave  the grandkids b-b guns  ....i get feathers  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 24, 2016, 05:50 PM
You're always up to something, great looking condos.

Thes an expansion plan in process :w00t:

Shingled up a Wren house this afternoon.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zps7mpdzxpr.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zps7mpdzxpr.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsedumsug8.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsedumsug8.jpeg.html)



I like it. My son will paint it up pretty.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on May 24, 2016, 06:53 PM
Looks like fun Bob! Great work!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on May 24, 2016, 07:51 PM
Very nice,  Bob.   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 25, 2016, 07:04 PM
Just so y'all know, my life isn't all bird brained.......

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zps8p222sub.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zps8p222sub.jpeg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zps7wah6hm1.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zps7wah6hm1.jpeg.html)


Couple of near twins from this morning.........on the amazing corn fly ;D

Nice way to break in the new 6 wt.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on May 25, 2016, 08:59 PM
 :bowdown:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: perch-hound on May 26, 2016, 08:51 AM
Finished the restore on this old(1970) Fenwick rod of my father's, he had beat this rod to death with salmon and steelhead.
I had to build a cork ring compressor, rod wrapper, etc, but it's finally done and think old Pop's will be happy with it.
Nothing fancy, Here are some before/after pics...
I don't think he'll need the fly line do you Fred?

(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh353/perch-hound/DSC_3006_zpsvucep6cg.jpg)
(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh353/perch-hound/DSC_3008_zpshb6grlcd.jpg)
(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh353/perch-hound/DSC_3010_zpsdytyde0n.jpg)
(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh353/perch-hound/DSC_3021_zpsdspij284.jpg)
(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh353/perch-hound/DSC_3019_zpsqxmn6z1d.jpg)
(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh353/perch-hound/DSC_3024_zpsbblasejg.jpg)
(http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh353/perch-hound/DSC_3027_zpsgkxxkwsx.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: perch-hound on May 26, 2016, 03:29 PM
Oh, and my bench is nowhere near as neat and clean as RG's  :-\
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 26, 2016, 03:37 PM
Very pretty none the less. Nice job and a very nice gesture of respect for "Pops".

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on May 27, 2016, 11:21 PM
Well with low water and quickly warming water temps, my trout fishing might be slowing down.  Not that I have done a whole heck of a lot, but I am grateful for every minute on the stream.  Here are a few of my favorites from the Finger Lakes region.  All these fish are wild fish from little known streams that have taken a bit to research and 'test' out. 

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/13124652_10154797729878662_6974186044947953911_n_zpsnqfuneu8.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/13226660_10154858233213662_4755741697628864871_n_zpsaejqbz81.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/13240645_10154860497903662_2569276343023983418_n_zps9yckvvse.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/thumbnail_20160424_123558_resized_zpsgywkjuic.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/IMG_0210_zpsgupqsfzc.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/thumbnail_20160424_145308-1_resized_zpsgpnjswfg.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/thumbnail_IMG_20160416_085237_resized_zpsjc6vke1u.jpg)

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 28, 2016, 03:59 PM
very nice man :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 28, 2016, 04:01 PM
perch  that's sweet and such a nice thing to do for your dad ^5
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 28, 2016, 07:05 PM
Gump, great pics as always. You're a good fly fisher and photog as well.

Always impressive.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 29, 2016, 08:13 AM
Crappies on the fly make me happy ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpske0kh0d5.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpske0kh0d5.jpeg.html)

Fun morning.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on May 29, 2016, 02:43 PM
I don't eat fish but did manage 22 brown trout  todayC&R , all on a woodduck winged olive caddis size 16. had to start at sunrise  to get the hatch;caddis , sulfurs and something so small I couldn't see it!water warm at 58 deg. which is gettting up there for May. :( :(
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 29, 2016, 04:46 PM
I was on the creek for a while yesterday's. Managed a couple rock bass. Water was mid summer conditions with substantial weed growth. Gin clear as well.

Had a pod of carp all set to go when 3 young men came paddling through.  End of story.

But... They were having a lot of fun. Better than some things they could have been doing.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: perchgypsy on May 29, 2016, 05:53 PM
Nice job on the rework perch 👍
also very nice pics gump,what kind of camera are you using,shows very great detail in your pics,very high quality👍😎
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on May 30, 2016, 06:16 PM
Thanks guys.  I try to put a different perspective on my angling pics when I can.  Some of those shots were actually off my phone which is a Galaxy 6.  The others were off my Canon sx530 Powershot.  Some have been edited using Instagram or right on my phone.

In honor of the day here is one I took a couple weeks back at the Bath National Cemetary after I was done fishing the Cohocton....


I am Thankful...


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/2016%20fishing/thumbnail_IMG_20160515_163237_resized_zpsvil4lj6l.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 30, 2016, 06:37 PM
Fitting....very fitting.

Thanks.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 02, 2016, 05:13 AM
sobering reminder ..... ty
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 02, 2016, 05:26 AM
Crappies on the fly make me happy ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpske0kh0d5.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpske0kh0d5.jpeg.html)

Fun morning.

Rg

this is not a full report !  where did you go ? what fly? what weight rod? weather conditions? can we go? what time is the fish fry?  we need details RG
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 02, 2016, 05:29 PM
I could tell you ....but......you know the consequences.

I gave them to a friend at work for his 88 year old mom. She loves fish and he doesn't get time to catch any for her. I don't know his mom, but he's a really nice guy.

Fly was a crossover fly which for some reason escapes my memory......as does the location etc :-\

But, I'm old and memory comes and goes........on an as needed basis ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 02, 2016, 08:38 PM
 :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 03, 2016, 02:53 PM
I'm gonna try it again tomorrow morning. Worked pretty well last week. So, what the heck.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jun 03, 2016, 02:55 PM
[/sub]/media/IMG_20160603_151359_zpsoltixsxz.jpg.html](http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l323/dkindrew/IMG_20160603_151359_zpsoltixsxz.jpg) (http://s328.photobucket.com/user/dkindrew :o[sub)..when I seen rg post a pic of crappies with the fly I decided to give it a shot myself what a blast 17 crappies in 2 hrs.. ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Mac Attack on Jun 03, 2016, 03:22 PM
I'm gonna try it again tomorrow morning. Worked pretty well last week. So, what the heck.

Rg

If you can remember where you caught them.

 ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 03, 2016, 03:29 PM
dan sorry I missed your  call I was  way up north buddy  ...nice  fish
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 03, 2016, 04:36 PM
If you can remember where you caught them.

 ;)

Like I said Mac...it comes and goes on an as needed basis.

Nice catch bigguy!

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jun 03, 2016, 05:58 PM
I figured you were out and about trap the crappies are strong on otisco..and Cayuga..the little guy caught a few big gar pike on the fly rod he had a blast with them he got some nice crappie also..thanks rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 03, 2016, 06:14 PM
Good Dad! He'll always remember your time together.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on Jun 03, 2016, 07:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6DYVBdo6TM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6DYVBdo6TM) . Very dumb but these videos crack me up
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 04, 2016, 03:09 AM
Aaaaaaa......yeah.......

I'll be using the mighty 6" red wriggler flies first thing this morning. A.k.a.   Worms!

Later I'll switch over to the fly stick ;D

Rg



Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 04, 2016, 04:53 PM
Had a great morning with the fly rod. Perch, crappies, bass and even a carp. It hit a Double Martini and took off like a guided missile for parts unknown.....my fly and leader firmly attached. It was a short encounter.

Tons of fun with the new 10' 6 wt. what a nice boat rod ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 06, 2016, 05:06 AM
went to toss a few foam spiders at some bluegills then the rain opened up ..... wow it really came down and I had to wait it out in the truck....  crazy weather
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 09, 2016, 08:35 PM
seen a ton of barn swallows flying all over the river like flies on a dump truck ...that means a good hatch ...I didn't have time to check it out but my guess would be caddis ......blue gills should be on tomorrow
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 10, 2016, 03:44 AM
Huge caddis hatches on the canal lately. Shucks littered the surface last Saturday. I'm guessing the cool temperatures may have slowed that up a bit.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Jun 10, 2016, 08:06 PM
Bluegill take & the set!!
(http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m486/sandwick50/topsidestrike_zpszbylmagx.jpg) (http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/sandwick50/media/topsidestrike_zpszbylmagx.jpg.html)

(http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m486/sandwick50/setthehook_zpskyurnm1j.jpg) (http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/sandwick50/media/setthehook_zpskyurnm1j.jpg.html)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 10, 2016, 08:51 PM
THATS A COUPLE GREAT PICTURES  :clapping: :clapping: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on Jun 10, 2016, 10:41 PM
Yep. That second picture is what I see in my dreams. . .Very cool Bluegil!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jun 12, 2016, 05:00 PM
Bluegillonafly...

Those are two very unique photos! I would have a couple prints made and frame them as a set! I've been jonesing to get out gilling myself but can't seem to make it happen lately with other things going on. Thought about it today but the winds here have been HORRENDOUS (20-25mph) all day long. Oh well, still lots of time. I did get out a little while ago on a neighbors pond and for kicks I took my first fly rod ever, my Fenwick FF806 glass rod. Had to slow my timing down but after a little bit I was putting out a decent line. Had fun with the Bass but not much gill action that day. I did have one tyrant I never got a look at break me off because my tippet was pretty light (4lb) but I had a lot of fun none the less.

Fishing with my glass rod stirred some old memories and because I've been sitting on Cabela's gift cert my kids gave me for Christmas, I broke down yesterday and ordered one of their CGR glass fly rods and one of their Wind River series reels to go with it. I now have a 7' 4/5wt 3pc (570-3) rod and matching reel on their way.  ;D

Both the rod and reel had very favorable reviews and not just on the Cabela's site so I just couldn't pass up the deal.

There was a Father's Day promo going on with free shipping on orders over $99 so I ordered some backing to make up the difference and a had to chip a little bit off the points I have accumulated to cover the tax, but I'm nothing out of pocket once the dust settled. The only downside is the rod is on back order until August. Oh well, for that price I can wait, it's not like I don't have other rods to play with! They dangled that carrot out there and apparently a lot of folks went for it as soon as the sale started.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 14, 2016, 03:00 AM
Last Saturday I got out for an hour on my backyard stream before e skies turned black and all heck broke loose. Top water gills one after the other.

I have a Fenwick FF856 in my collection. It's a replacement to the first fly rod I ever bought. I completely wore out the first one and decided to search for another a couple years back. Found a pristine specimen on EBay for what seemed a reasonable price. They will definitely slow you down but are a pure pleasure to fish. When you think about a line for your new glass, look into Cortland Sylk. I have a couple I use on my glass and boo rods. They run a bit light so I tend to go up a weight. Get a DT in Mustard color and you'll be happy ;D Very well suited for slower rods.

I gave my new 10' 6wt a workout  from the boat a week ago. I've never cast a 10' fly rod and the results were amazing. It roll casts like a dream. I still like IM-6 blanks better than any other.

Rg

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jun 14, 2016, 01:56 PM
I'll keep that in mind Rg...

I read up on the sylk lines and they got a lot of mixed reviews. Some folks loved em' and some hated em'...like anything else I guess. I was planning on lining it with a Cortland 444 Peach DT5. From all I read about this particular rod, it really shines with a 5wt line.

I forgot to mention earlier, my Mrs. and her Sis went yard saleing Saturday and when she got home she said "I have a surprise for you". She was talking with an older Gent at a sale he was having and he had some misc. tackle so she mentioned that she was learning to fly fish with me. He said "Well, I might have something for you" and came back a few minutes later with a fly rod, reel, and line ready to go. He told her, "you're just getting started so you may as well have this" and gave her the outfit.

It's nothing special... a Korean made Eagle Claw 8'6 graphite rod for 6/7 line with a Japanese copy of a Pflueger 1495. The reel had plenty of backing and what appears to be a cheap, white WF line on it. I tore the reel down and cleaned it, converted it to left hand wind, and reversed the backing and fly line. I cast it a bit in the yard and wasn't too impressed. I think the stripper and snake guides are too small because the line doesn't seem to flow through them smoothly. I also think the line may be a 5wt as the rod doesn't load well either.

But for free??? WTH ;D

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on Jun 14, 2016, 05:01 PM
I'll keep that in mind Rg...

I read up on the sylk lines and they got a lot of mixed reviews. Some folks loved em' and some hated em'...like anything else I guess. I was planning on lining it with a Cortland 444 Peach DT5. From all I read about this particular rod, it really shines with a 5wt line.

I forgot to mention earlier, my Mrs. and her Sis went yard saleing Saturday and when she got home she said "I have a surprise for you". She was talking with an older Gent at a sale he was having and he had some misc. tackle so she mentioned that she was learning to fly fish with me. He said "Well, I might have something for you" and came back a few minutes later with a fly rod, reel, and line ready to go. He told her, "you're just getting started so you may as well have this" and gave her the outfit.

It's nothing special... a Korean made Eagle Claw 8'6 graphite rod for 6/7 line with a Japanese copy of a Pflueger 1495. The reel had plenty of backing and what appears to be a cheap, white WF line on it. I tore the reel down and cleaned it, converted it to left hand wind, and reversed the backing and fly line. I cast it a bit in the yard and wasn't too impressed. I think the stripper and snake guides are too small because the line doesn't seem to flow through them smoothly. I also think the line may be a 5wt as the rod doesn't load well either.

But for free??? WTH ;D

WK
Can't beat free!
Tied up a few balloon caddis a few days ago and finally got to test them this afternoon on some wild browns... They get a  :thumbup_smilie:. easy pattern and they catch & float well. Put them in your box  ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jun 15, 2016, 03:53 PM
The Cabela's Wind River reel I ordered came in the mail today. Pretty decent reel for $25 and still available for that price through the 19th if anyone's interested.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 15, 2016, 05:45 PM
That's what I need......another fly reel :-\

I think there's 20 something fly reels in the collection.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: perchgypsy on Jun 15, 2016, 08:55 PM
Rg another fly reel means another rod to build....hey sure you could find some room for that
you can use 20 something reels before you could use 20 something bird houses  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 16, 2016, 04:34 AM
The bird houses I'll sell....the reels are like my children. I think it's against the law to sell your children.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 16, 2016, 05:35 AM
https://www.google.com/#q=john+belushi+how+much+for+the+little+girl (https://www.google.com/#q=john+belushi+how+much+for+the+little+girl)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 18, 2016, 07:39 AM
Even bass like a nice Martini once in a while.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image_zpsuts9qc8l.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image_zpsuts9qc8l.jpeg.html)

Fun morning on the boat till the weekend warriors showed up.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: icejohn on Jun 18, 2016, 09:28 PM
Bob....what's that bead(?) in front of your double maftini......Secret technique?
icejohn
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 19, 2016, 03:02 AM
Thingamabobber,
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/brfixit/image.jpg1_zpslvbqbr1k.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/brfixit/media/image.jpg1_zpslvbqbr1k.jpg.html)

Great little strike indicators.

Lots of fly eating debris around the shorelines. Keeps the fly in the zone.

Rg

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 19, 2016, 08:37 AM
personally I prefer  strafoam ones  but a lot of guys like those
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jun 19, 2016, 10:57 AM
Rg,

Do you prefer the peg style as you've shown over the original thingamabobber? Just curious...

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 19, 2016, 02:10 PM
Yeah I do. I peg them onto the furled leader. They stay put and don't really affect he cast much.

Hey....happy Father's Day to all you old farts.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: hunts2long on Jun 19, 2016, 02:27 PM
Thanks and the same to you...h2l
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: icejohn on Jun 19, 2016, 07:44 PM
Those look kinda neat....I have used foam ones in the past but will have to try these.
Thanks RG.
icejohn
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Jul 01, 2016, 06:13 AM
Good morning old farts.

Looking to fish the Delaware next weekend.  Any recommendations for a motel or accommodations to stay in the Deposit area?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 01, 2016, 02:19 PM
You need a tackle bearer Gump?

There's a Delaware flu epidemic going around where I work. I might just catch it.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on Jul 01, 2016, 03:53 PM
Good morning old farts.

Looking to fish the Delaware next weekend.  Any recommendations for a motel or accommodations to stay in the Deposit area?

Thanks in advance.

I always stay at Capra Inn in Hancock. Nice, friendly couple own it, simple no-nonsense rooms. They also run a shuttle service if you want to throw your kayak in.     
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 01, 2016, 05:23 PM
Told ya Gump ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Jul 02, 2016, 06:18 AM
Thanks for the heads up Bartman.   I'll be calling them.  This trip is a last minute decision on my behalf.  I appreciate the info.

RG, I have no idea what I am doing.  Just a 'tag-along' on this trip.  This will be my baptism on these waters....lol
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on Jul 02, 2016, 06:54 AM
Good luck, if I have one word of advice, it's don't leave the water too soon. Dusk is magic so bring a flashlight.

 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 02, 2016, 09:30 AM
Empirical knowledge right there Gump.

I'll be hitting the backyard stream in a little while. Had fun with the smallmouth on Tuesday and Wednesday. Tried for a few carp, but no takers.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 08, 2016, 09:09 PM
Anyone purchase any new (to you) fly fishing equipment lately? I'm currently waiting on the arrival of 3 vintage fly reels from Ebay with a bid out on a fourth one!

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 09, 2016, 08:35 AM
Nope! I do believe the 10' 6wt I built recently may be my last Rod. In fact, I'm going to sell off a few rods and reels in August.

My collection is way past complete.

What did you buy?

On another note, I got out on the boat this morning for a few hours. Not much going on. I'll probably head to the stream with the 2 wt this evening for some gills and bass.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Jul 09, 2016, 09:58 AM
Nope! I do believe the 10' 6wt I built recently may be my last Rod. In fact, I'm going to sell off a few rods and reels in August.

My collection is way past complete.

What did you buy?

On another note, I got out on the boat this morning for a few hours. Not much going on. I'll probably head to the stream with the 2 wt this evening for some gills and bass.

Rg

A Martin 67SSA, Abu Garcia 256, and an unmarked reel that looks like a Heddon clone. The Martin is NIB condition... plan on pairing it with my Redington 9' 6/7. And yes, I need to think about weeding out some of my stockpile as well.

The stream you mention must have a good source that feeds it... everything around here is bare bones now. My son and I floated a section of the Susky last Saturday and I saw parts of that river exposed that I've never seen this early in summer. We seriously need some rain!

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 09, 2016, 01:44 PM
It's low, but here's many fishable pools.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Jul 12, 2016, 07:40 PM
Well, first trip to the West Branch was memorable.  In and out of rain, and overcast conditions had the sulphurs going pretty good on Saturday.   These wild fish are quite cagey and presentation is everything.  I managed 3 fish a 12" , a 16"', and I ended the day right at dark with a plump 18" male ....my personal best on a dry.  My other friends each connected with 2-3 fish each as well.  I got a slob in the 24' range to eat a big foam ISO pattern I tie, and had my one friend witness the take, only to miss him due to too much slack in my mend.  Just to get him to eat my fly made my day.

 Aside from the fish, the river and surrounding landscape is awesome.  With the humidity and cold water temps, the fog at time made the river quite mystical.  Now I am trying to find a way to get back down there....hmmm :cookoo:

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: chrony59 on Jul 13, 2016, 05:32 AM
Beautiful Browns and pictures .............. nice job :clapping:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on Jul 13, 2016, 07:44 AM
Ok, you're hooked. Nice going.  Your first pick is where I hooked my first brown in that riffle (a 20 incher) more than 30 years ago. I've been hooked ever since.

If you ever  need any intel, give me a shout.

and the fish do get picky in the summer.

BW  
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 13, 2016, 08:27 AM
Great pics, great fish.......nice hat ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rlowery on Jul 13, 2016, 08:28 AM
Great pics! Makes sitting here at my desk a bit seem like the wrong way to be spend time haha
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: IFF on Jul 13, 2016, 10:29 AM
Nice imitation on the rod handle Grump,  ;D ::) :whistling: J/K of course, nice it posed long enough to get the picture.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Jul 15, 2016, 12:59 PM
Thanks guys...hard to go back to work after a weekend like that.  Wont be my last trip there !


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Nice imitation on the rod handle Grump,  grin rolleyes whistling J/K of course, nice it posed long enough to get the picture.


Actually here is my imitation for those slate drakes and also the fly I got the big guy to eat...

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jul 16, 2016, 10:26 AM
that fly reminds me of a segmented red ant that has been doing well catching nice browns!Good looking tie.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: IFF on Jul 21, 2016, 08:07 PM
Whats been your most productive tie this year ?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jul 21, 2016, 08:46 PM
in the dry fly category I use an olive duckwinged caddis size 16 tied by Carl Coleman, but a tan elk hair caddis 16 works well also. The ant has worked on occasion  and now the tricos are producing  if you can fool a trout in sizes 20-22. My go to nymph is a gold beadhead pheasent tail nymph size 16.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jul 31, 2016, 07:45 PM
Hi fellas long time no chat on here been busy...I have a question its off topic but knowledge is always good..if you are a non US resident you have a green card do u need a fishing lisence.....non us resident...anyone know I looked all around Dec site couldn't find nothing..thanks..
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jul 31, 2016, 07:58 PM
Non US resident.sorry.not sure if there's a difference think there is :)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 31, 2016, 08:01 PM
ok you can  be  a non resident   us  citz  and  still be  a  ny resident ...I  know  people  who are Italian  citz  that are  ny residents  that get a  ny  resident fishing  lic
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 31, 2016, 08:16 PM

Who Needs a Fishing License?
You need a fishing license if you are 16 years and older and fishing for:

Freshwater fish species by angling, spearing, hooking, longbow, and tip-ups.
Frog species by spearing, catching with the hands or by use of a club or hook.
Freshwater baitfish for personal use.
Note: You need a marine fishing registration if fishing for migratory fish of the sea and saltwater fish species.

You do not need a fishing license if you are:

Fishing on a licensed fishing preserve
Fishing during the free fishing weekend
Fishing at a free fishing clinic
A resident landowner primarily engaged in farming (including lessees and members of their immediate families) when fishing on farm lands they are occupying and cultivating.
A farm fish pond license holder (including members of their immediate families) fishing on waters covered by the license.
A Native American living and fishing on reservation land.
A patient residing at a qualifying U.S. Veterans Administration hospital or facility in New York State.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jul 31, 2016, 11:54 PM
Thanks guys..a guy I work with only has a green card Walmart wouldn't help him..
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Aug 01, 2016, 05:05 AM
Call the DEC!

Seems I say that all the time :-\

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 01, 2016, 06:50 AM
it  doesn't matter that he has a green card what matters is if he has proof  of  NY state residanncy  if  so he gets a  state  resident  license if  he is  not a  NY resident he gets a  non NY resident license ......this  occurs everyday  in wal marts  in Oswego  as  people come to  fish for salmon
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Aug 01, 2016, 05:43 PM
Go to your town hall to get your license; they can handle it!Also, the state is proposing 4 free fishing periods per year. Go to htheir website and read about the proposal; they are asking for comments. (about 8 free fishing day is my recollection which are Saturday and Sunday before Presidents Day, 3rd weekend in May, 4th
Sat. in Sept. and Vetrrans day) plus the 4th weekend in June which in effect now.)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Aug 22, 2016, 06:47 AM
with that rain and cooler temps I'm thinking this is a good day to grab a rod and chase a few fish  !!!! 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Aug 22, 2016, 08:47 AM
with that rain and cooler temps I'm thinking this is a good day to grab a rod and chase a few fish  !!!! 
to me every day is a good day to chase,but wife states NOT every day unless i go
then no work will get done
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Aug 22, 2016, 10:53 AM
Ahhh! The work will always be there tomorrow, but the fish may not!   ;D
(But I'm guilty of working too much, too.  :-\ )
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Aug 22, 2016, 02:04 PM
struggled to get 2 browns today; one on a red ant and one on an olive caddis. water 63 deg.  but still record low flow and height. We need more rain!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: chrony59 on Aug 23, 2016, 12:50 PM
struggled for 2 browns ?? I got the old skunk on my last trip  :'(   and that aint happened in many years !! >:(
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 10, 2016, 07:17 AM
I been testing the new  TFO   8-9wt  on a few salmon ......great  outfit  plenty of back bone and it loads and cast great ....I am impressed
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 10, 2016, 03:45 PM
Love my 3 wt. one of my very favorites.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 10, 2016, 09:47 PM
well the 9 ft  8/9 wt  "lefty k"  handles salmon in the  river very well may aupgrade on the reel soon but everything handled very well the price was good and it shot the line well in a breeze ...I felt comfortable with the rod even tho it was heavier then what I'm use to
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on Sep 16, 2016, 03:52 PM
Went and hit a little stretch today, no d**n water  >:(. What water there was had good temp. (62). Missed one small brown that hit a yellow stimmy. Damned weather...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 16, 2016, 07:21 PM
There's more water in my sink than the streams around here. The canal is a sickly looking green due to lack of water flow. My favorite lakes are 1-2 feet below normal levels.

We need some serious rain.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Sep 16, 2016, 07:41 PM
There's more water in my sink than the streams around here. The canal is a sickly looking green due to lack of water flow. My favorite lakes are 1-2 feet below normal levels.

We need some serious rain.

Rg

You got that right Bud...

My son and I floated a section of the Susquehanna (NY side) in mid-July and it was low. I remember commenting to him at the time that I'm seeing parts of this river I've never seen before. At that time, the USGS gauge near Waverly NY posted that the flow was around 1300 cfs. I checked their website today and it's currently below 800 cfs!! Darn near half of what it was when we fished it in July!!  :'(  :'(

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 17, 2016, 08:26 AM
I'm so happy with that new  TFO  rod  RG I wanna try it in the salt now it it handles kings it should handle blues ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 17, 2016, 01:47 PM
Can't beat those blanks Trapper. I have an Axiom 5wt that will throw rocks I think. Tons of power for a 5 wt.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 17, 2016, 07:47 PM
really is some nice rods on the market today
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 27, 2016, 01:14 PM
another day of chuck and duck  today on the river ,little surprise at the number of guys  with fly rods ,I realize  the tossing weight eliminates the learning curve ,but I love seeing  guys  with fly rods ...I do have a  few suggestions or I guess tips is a better word if your running a old fly reel and your going to fill it with mono  first  put 50 yrds of fly rod backing on your reel ,the mono's memory will tighten and the reel won't work....  when your  fishing chuck and  duck I use a slingy instead of split shots that way if you yank and  the weight hits your rod  it's les chance of damage ...plus you won't get hung up as much.... I prefer to run a  swivel when using weight  I prefer a 3 way ,less tangles .....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gremlin on Sep 29, 2016, 04:16 PM
 Trap, I've been using the fly rod for a few yrs now. Chuck and Duck is productive, but it really doesn't feel like fly fishing to me. Whats your set-up for salmon if you don't mind me asking. Thanks.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 29, 2016, 04:50 PM
Trap, I've been using the fly rod for a few yrs now. Chuck and Duck is productive, but it really doesn't feel like fly fishing to me. Whats your set-up for salmon if you don't mind me asking. Thanks.

depends on the water flow  .....the biggest thing is getting the fly down if the  flow allows  i'll add lead to the  fly  or  micro shot.....I'm really not a fan of a sinking tip  .....if the water  is mid level I often will  go  to a  chuck and duck set up  but  I really try to avoid it it's heavy ,and  if you hit your  rod with lead it's not good .....I don't like the  toss and  lift thing either ...it's true I really don't believe  kings  hit  ...but cohos will at times ...(note   at times!)
and   I don't want to be lifting  steelies or  browns  so I  prefer  a drift  ...I  often will use  weight to get the  fly  down  but  I  use a  strike  indicator ...(like pinning  but I  don't run it  down stream I  fish a normal  drift patteren and  I honestly drift it ..... number  3 if the water  is   "high" I will go  to the  noodle rod or  chuck and  duck .......... I will change  technics and  equipment  depending on the  conditions ......

never tried a  two hander either
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Oct 01, 2016, 09:58 AM
Couldn't think of a better way to spend my birthday weekend.  Spent a long weekend up north in the ADK's and was able to hit several bodies of water with the kayak as well as hiked into a wild brook trout stream.  Multiple waters, multiple rods, multiple species.  Couple of crisp mornings made for some surreal landscapes.  The fish were just icing on the cake.

Big thanks to my better half for sharing the trip with me.  She gets photo credits for the eagles and the shots of me in the kayak battling bronzebacks.

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Oct 01, 2016, 12:56 PM
THAT is some great photo's,and some nice fish
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: gotabig1 on Oct 01, 2016, 02:05 PM
Now that's the way to spend a birthday!!! Or any day for that matter!! Really nice pics too
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Oct 02, 2016, 12:13 PM
Now that's the way to spend a birthday!!!

Couldn't have said it better myself! Those are some great pics Gump, looks like you and the Mrs. had a really nice time in the Dacks!

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: chrony59 on Oct 03, 2016, 05:18 AM
I knew I wouldn't jinx you Man .....................Awesome photo's thanks to you and the Mrs for sharing ! Love the Eagle and Brookie pictures  :bowdown: :clapping: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on Oct 03, 2016, 05:24 PM
Great pics. I think your rod is longer than your kayak.  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Oct 05, 2016, 07:38 PM
Thanks guys. 

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Great pics. I think your rod is longer than your kayak.
Almost !  lol  it's an 8.5' ...the kayak is 9.5'  It is a vintage Lamiglas S-Glass series SFL1027S blank that I built up a couple years ago.  I would argue that it may be one of the best blanks for smallmouth ever.  Oh and that translucent glow in the sun warms my soul.   :laugh:
 
Here is one more I will share with you.  It wasn't on my fly gear but I like the photo just the same.  Our last night there I got into some hot topwater action with the pike on light spin gear.  Little blurry but hard to get it perfect in a moving kayak in low light.

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Oct 06, 2016, 07:01 AM
NICE-like the photo and the lure,donot like the look in his eyes
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: whistlepig on Oct 06, 2016, 09:18 AM
Great pictures
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 10, 2016, 04:21 AM
got to admit those are nice pictures!!!!  I think i'll be walking in water with the fly rod  today in search of a brown or steelie  sure i'll end up with sore arms from salmon ......
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 13, 2016, 05:18 AM
I want to take a minute and  say thank you to Mr. KP, who took the time, to help me out  when I really needed it. the  ramp is outstanding larry  your work is fantastic .....  a  little side note ,Freddie  yelled at us for not letting him know because he would have came to help too .....you guys are the best man  thank you .........

Freddie I did a great job supervising him!

 ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Oct 13, 2016, 08:05 AM
Trapp , That's what friends do ,  the speaker phone stuff was funny as hll
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 13, 2016, 08:07 PM
I want to take a minute and  say thank you to Mr. KP, who took the time, to help me out  when I really needed it. the  ramp is outstanding larry  your work is fantastic .....  a  little side note ,Freddie  yelled at us for not letting him know because he would have came to help too .....you guys are the best man  thank you .........

Freddie I did a great job supervising him!

 ;D
It was my pleasure Trap! It's what friends do! The look on your brides face was priceless! 😊 you were the best supervisor I ever had! End of story!

Freddie....I was taught how to make a salmon bite skein on the river from the ol buzzard! 😲😜
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 13, 2016, 08:19 PM
It was my pleasure Trap! It's what friends do! The look on your brides face was priceless! 😊 you were the best supervisor I ever had! End of story!

Freddie....I was taught how to make a salmon bite skein on the river from the ol buzzard! 😲😜

I still stand by my words ....they don't bite ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 14, 2016, 05:31 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 15, 2016, 10:32 AM
ok I'm down for a few days and I hate it .... think i'll go cast  in the back yard  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 15, 2016, 02:03 PM
Those biting salmon put a hurtin' on you huh trap!? Lol! May as well cast for weed trout in the yard! ;D get better bud!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 15, 2016, 03:15 PM
weed trout ............hmmmmmmmmmmm do Russians like em????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Oct 15, 2016, 07:32 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Oct 17, 2016, 01:40 PM
  Last few years I have come to learn that the Esox bite is pretty good come October.  Now,you won't find me this time of year bothering with the circus on the tribs.  Raised a few from the depths and my friend connected on this nice gator this past weekend.  Big flies and vintage #9 wt. fiberglass rods....

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bigredfishing on Oct 17, 2016, 01:59 PM
Beautiful...that rod reminds me of the FF857 7wt I got when my grandfather passed.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Oct 17, 2016, 02:52 PM
Nice.  This one is the big brother...ff108
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Oct 17, 2016, 03:45 PM
Great pic and rod, I have a FF9311,
I got back in the 80s
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Oct 25, 2016, 06:19 PM
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Great pic and rod, I have a FF9311,
I got back in the 80s

That has to be a cannon !!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Oct 25, 2016, 06:28 PM
That has to be a cannon !!!


I see there's a couple of those older Fenwick "heavy hitters" on Fleabay now.... one of them is a 12 wt!!  :o

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Nov 03, 2016, 10:06 AM
Well my little brother got married in Charlotte NC a couple weekends ago.  Decided to take a few extra days off and the wife and I traveled a bit west and into the Ashville area.  Played around in Pigsah National forest and caught a few wild NC trout.  Beautiful area that I will make it a point to go back to....

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Nov 03, 2016, 10:21 AM
Beautiful photos; you just can't beat fall fly fishing for those stream trout. I'm lovin' it here in NY!And the mountain streams of the Carolina's are great as well.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: chrony59 on Nov 03, 2016, 12:01 PM
Nice pictures Gump  :clapping:  You sure get around and find fish everywhere  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Nov 03, 2016, 12:33 PM

Nice fish and great pics guys
Gump it's pretty stout at  5 1/4 oz
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Nov 05, 2016, 05:34 AM
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Nice pictures Gump  clapping  You sure get around and find fish everywhere  grin

Thanks guys.  Making up for lost time.  Because of my line of work, I don't fish the summer that much.  Now is when I can play for a few months.  I never travel any length of time without at least one travel rod....always try and set aside a small period of time on a trip to explore waters.  I also give credit to my wife who recognizes my passion and is very tolerant (and also participates) in my addiction.  Bless her....

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Nov 05, 2016, 03:25 PM
Hang on to her Gump!
Mine has been "tolerant" for 45 years now. Real keepers are a catch of  lifetime.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Nov 09, 2016, 07:42 PM
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Hang on to her Gump!
Mine has been "tolerant" for 45 years now. Real keepers are a catch of  lifetime.

I'll try not to screw it up...she is part Italian heritage and can reeeaaally cook too !  lol   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Nov 09, 2016, 09:58 PM
I know how you feel fellas... been married to my lovely sportswoman for going on 24 years now. There's been more than one deer season where we would not have venison if it weren't for her!! She's a darn good fisherman (oops, I meant fisherperson) too! She likes all types of fishing but she likes to be pampered a bit when it comes to ice fishing. She'll "bucket hop" with me on mild days but prefers the Clam Nanook flipover if it's darn cold out! I feel very fortunate to have a woman like her... especially seeing as how she puts up with all my other BS!!  ;D

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 17, 2017, 05:04 PM
I was chatting with a fellow fly fisher today at work. He was showing me his latest tie. A mulberry imitation. Man....it gave me the itch really bad.

I know...it's another 3 1/2 months till the berry drop.......but, I can't wait.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Feb 17, 2017, 08:55 PM
with the air temps. this weekend and next week, you may have that fly rod in action BEFORE March! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Feb 18, 2017, 02:38 AM
Have you ever fly fished e Rudd at Seneca Lake State Park marina in the spring? It's a hoot! Some of them get to 3-4 lbs. very early yet though. Just a solid case of spring fever here. :-\

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Feb 19, 2017, 12:15 PM
No, I havn't; only fished out of their in a boat for perch and smallies.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on Feb 19, 2017, 08:43 PM
Those rudd? are no joke. Have caught them at Watkins Glen pier while perch fishing. Starting to see some early stones hatching here.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Feb 24, 2017, 11:56 AM
Some mid winter eye candy for you old farts.....  Been out on some streams since Christmas with the mild temps.

Combination of tributary fish and some WILD inland gems... 

You can also see some repetition in my hot tributary fly in some of the photos. 

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/fishing%202017/thumbnail_IMG_20161204_135125_zpsgutkdxem.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/fishing%202017/thumbnail_IMG_20161230_171331_212_zpsxfnysv0v.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/fishing%202017/16003166_10155686970213662_5283594343824493514_n_zpsc46gqmak.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/fishing%202017/thumbnail_20170122_160007_zps81evav5b.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/fishing%202017/thumbnail_IMG_20170104_181333_124_zpsdosfoali.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/fishing%202017/thumbnail_IMG_20161229_185821_628_zpsshqx5vce.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/fishing%202017/coho%202-19%20II_zpsosozljkv.jpg)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on Feb 24, 2017, 04:54 PM
Nice! Can't beat that.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Feb 24, 2017, 05:53 PM
Great pictures Gump..    Congratulations...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on Feb 24, 2017, 06:24 PM
Gump  :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Feb 24, 2017, 07:29 PM
Your the Man! 8) 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Feb 25, 2017, 05:39 AM
gump nice .............I been thinking if this warm sticks and  a wind opens the slush off lakeview I have never caught a pike on the fly  at the end of the season!!!!! this might be a chance of a life time boys
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Feb 25, 2017, 08:21 AM
Thanks guys....been putting my time in for them for sure.  My line of work (landscape design/construction) offers me more time to fish this time of year.  I am often busiest when the dry flies are hatching and unfortunately miss out on a lot of that action in a few months.  Gotta take it when you can get it ! 

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gump nice .............I been thinking if this warm sticks and  a wind opens the slush off lakeview I have never caught a pike on the fly  at the end of the season!!!!! this might be a chance of a life time boys

Trap, my one friend in the Buffalo area did just that 2 days ago.  He is burnt out on crowded steelhead streams and wanted to try something different.  He hit a warming stream/canal and got 2 to chase and eat. 


Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: chrony59 on Feb 27, 2017, 06:23 AM
Great pictures Gump  :thumbup_smilie: :clapping:   You are the man !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: geo315 on Mar 19, 2017, 06:09 PM
Has anyone hit any lakes since the shore lines opened up?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 20, 2017, 05:25 PM
i was going to then the  cold and snow came now the  lake is froze again lol
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 23, 2017, 07:33 AM
11 degrees out and I'm packing my Hodgeman jacket and getting  fly gear together lol  it is a addiction ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: geo315 on Mar 24, 2017, 05:57 PM
Hey guys, I got a question.  Its been a few years since I hit the streams.  I heard that felt soles are out.  Is that true?  Thanks Geo.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 25, 2017, 10:16 AM
reason felt soles are looked down on is that they stay wet and  you can transport unwanted  invasive species such as  zebra mussels  or rock snot  ...I suggest a pair of  corkers  or go to a carpet  store  get  some  cheap grass carpet and  glue it on with  contact cement...it drys very quickly
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: geo315 on Mar 25, 2017, 11:08 AM
Matty and Trap... Thanks for the info.  I think I will replace the beloved felt with some plastic grass. Geo.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Mar 30, 2017, 09:23 AM
Brief trip (but aren't all vacations) for a few days down to grab some warm rays with the wife in FLA.  Rods of course were packed as well as some scheduled time on the water.  traveled to Canaveral National Seashore and fished the Mosquito Lagoon estuary with hopes of redfish.  First time to this area, but found a place to rent a couple of kayaks and did some exploring.  Well, the reds eluded me so I had to settle for this lousy bycatch.  First snook on the fly and now off my bucket list.  Hit a foam gurgler pattern on the surface I had tied the night before we left home.  Probably could have hired a guide and caught more fish but the satisfaction of DIY can't be matched. 

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/fishing%202017/thumbnail_20170328_1928320_zpsgaftvivn.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/fishing%202017/thumbnail_20170327_112235_zpsmnqu0gch.jpg)

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on Mar 30, 2017, 02:08 PM
Very cool gump! If your not back yet, bring some warm weather back with you..
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 30, 2017, 09:49 PM
gump impressive !  nice thanks for sharing 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: SPN on Mar 31, 2017, 09:42 AM
Very nice Gump!!! Can't wait till i get to Key West!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on Apr 11, 2017, 08:45 PM
Did a little 'conventional' fishing today. First time without a fly rod (other than ice) this year, man did I feel googanesque. You will get funny looks if A) you try to mend with 20 yrds of mono in a breeze with a 6' ultra lite. B) If you miss a fish, calmly watch a bobber fly past your head, pause, and try to cast it back before it hits the ground behind you only to rap some slack 4lb mono around your neck..  ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 12, 2017, 04:29 AM
Hard to break the habit isn't it?

I was bullhead fishing last night and all the while I was watching bluegills rising thinking " I gotta bring the flyrod over here". Then I was thinking " I wonder what I could get a bullhead to hit on a flyrod?" Wouldn't that be a hoot? A 2 lb whirligig on a flyrod.

Then I started remembering way back when I used to make up bullhead and catfish baits in nylon sein sacks. They worked the nuts for chicken liver baits. Why not worms! At the pond I fish I'd only have to get out 40' or so. I could do that with the 10' 6wt easy and I'm pretty sure they'd stay together with a big loopy cast.


Once you get a flyrod in your hand, it never stops.

Rg

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Apr 12, 2017, 07:40 AM
I like yoir thinkin'!GO for it and good luck.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 12, 2017, 08:31 AM
i have  had bullheads  take  streamers  and   even  nymphs  when they are  shallow  ....they  are  fun on a  5  wt  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 14, 2017, 01:14 PM
nice  morning and I love seeing barn swallows  ;D

(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/untitledtrouter_zpsrporxpfu.png)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: geo315 on Apr 14, 2017, 02:30 PM
Very nice trap.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Apr 14, 2017, 03:13 PM
Good job, Trapper!   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on Apr 14, 2017, 03:23 PM
Nice going. To think that just a few weeks ago we had a pile of  snow and now it looks like your lawn might need a mow. Spring happens fast. 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Apr 14, 2017, 04:02 PM
Nice trouts Trapp...... :clapping: :bowdown:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: icejohn on Apr 14, 2017, 05:35 PM
those  are some nice trout trapp......haven't got nice bunch like that in a while for me.
thanks for sharing
icejohn
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 14, 2017, 05:37 PM
Nice catch Trapper. I tried a local favorite stream for trout this morning. It was about 30% too high to fish. Usually, I don't hit it till after May 1, but, I thought I'd take a shot.

Oh well.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on Apr 14, 2017, 07:55 PM
Hard to break the habit isn't it
Once you get a flyrod in your hand, it never stops.

Rg


You aren't kidding Bob!
Found this native little guy close to home today hungry for a #20 zebra midge
(http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag33/MattyP5290/IMG_1328_zpsnn3zcxvf.jpg) (http://s1297.photobucket.com/user/MattyP5290/media/IMG_1328_zpsnn3zcxvf.jpg.html)
Had some some mayflies coming off, but nothing to write home about
(http://i1297.photobucket.com/albums/ag33/MattyP5290/IMG_1329_zpsj0n54mma.jpg) (http://s1297.photobucket.com/user/MattyP5290/media/IMG_1329_zpsj0n54mma.jpg.html)
Nice catch TRap, What were they eating?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2008 on Apr 15, 2017, 10:57 AM
matty that I caught a  few  more  fish yesterday then what is  pictured ,  I  did  well  early  with a  muddler  weighed   fished  with a short  jerk retrieve  .... a  bead head pheasant tail with  strike indicator.... hares  ear....adams size  12 or  14 I  don't remember  sorry


today I had  something I  never  even heard of  happen!  I stopped  at a  pond that was stocked  with rainbows....I noticed   several cormorants swimming around  I  waded  out  to get closer  to  deep water  and  started   working a   muddler .... after  a  few  small  8inch  bows  I  was relaxed  and  enjoying the  crisp morning ... I felt  the   firm   tug  as I retrieved  and  set the hook  it  felt  like another  small  stocked fish  all of  a  sudden  my  rod  bend  and I  thought   a  big  bass must have  hit that little rainbow ! suddenly a  cormorant pops  up  in  front of  me  with a  fish in it's mouth  and  my  tippet coming  from  it's  mouth  .... I  said  out  loud  are  you ------ me ? I  got  lucky  as  did the cormorant as the  fly   came out  of the fishes  mouth ....  I have  never had  this happen  before  and I  have to  admit I walked to  shore   got  my  thermos  had a  coffee  and  laughed

                                                                                                                            life is  good  and  full of  surprizes
                                                                                                                                 thanks  God  I  enjoyed  today
                                                                                                                                              trapp

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on Apr 15, 2017, 11:42 AM
Haha, that's wild!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Swampking89 on Apr 15, 2017, 04:07 PM
Those da#m flying rats!!little killers are all they are!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 15, 2017, 04:36 PM
matty I  don't  think i'll  ever  forget  that one  ,i'm still laughing


bart that's  not my lawn that's the  back yard  access  to  my  little  gem of a  trout hole  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Apr 16, 2017, 06:31 AM
It often takes many casts on the big water with big flies, but sometimes it happens...


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/17903871_10156004464858662_1063861189127493605_n_zpsq0hrdpub.jpg)

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Apr 16, 2017, 06:35 AM
Crazy story Trapper and nice fish guys !   Sadly I have seen these birds key on other stocked waters once the trout are 'in'.  I wish the trout tasted awful to them and they just targeted the lesser species......like bass...  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Apr 16, 2017, 06:58 AM
Very nice, Gump! Thanks for sharing.   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Apr 16, 2017, 07:02 AM
some real great photos and a GREAT FISH, thanks for sharing
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on Apr 16, 2017, 07:34 AM
Nice Gump, envious.

I'm in the middle of a complete kitchen redo so I'm an old f--t with a nail gun right now so keep the pictures coming guys.   
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 16, 2017, 10:02 AM
my  Easter  basket smorgasburg fishing  morning  ;D matty  prince  nymph ,hares  ears  and  Addams  again

(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/trapper2000/untitledeaster%20%20fish_zpsqf4fb8aj.png)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 16, 2017, 10:17 AM
gump  great  pictures  felt like I was there!!!   beautiful  fish  :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on Apr 16, 2017, 10:47 AM
Awesome pig there gump.
my  Easter  basket smorgasburg fishing  morning  ;D matty  prince  nymph ,hares  ears  and  Addams  again

Show off  ::) ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: chrony59 on Apr 17, 2017, 08:42 AM
Great fish as usual Trapper and Gump ............... my trout stream has finally come down to a decent level  ;D  I hit it Saturday for a few hours and boy did it feel good to have a fat 16" Brown on the end of my line  ;)  plan on hitting today after work !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: WANNAKETCHUM on Apr 17, 2017, 11:43 AM
Nice job Gump!! You are a true sportsman! Is that a glass rod you're using? The blank has that look to it.

WK
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Apr 17, 2017, 11:58 AM
trapper,
some nice fish,and a great photo thanks for sharing
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Apr 17, 2017, 11:58 AM
Love the gray ghost...

(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/jon006/Screenshot_20170414-155915.png) (http://s758.photobucket.com/user/jon006/media/Screenshot_20170414-155915.png.html)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 17, 2017, 12:51 PM
nice picture low ^5

I  hit the  gills this morning and  they where  pre  spawn  but shallow  ,not  sure  how  many I caught but I kept 20 really nice ones for diner  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Apr 17, 2017, 02:12 PM
Thanks Trap.  When I was younger learning to fly fish I went after gills first.  Forgiving little buggers helped me build confidence before hitting those fickle trout. 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Apr 17, 2017, 07:31 PM
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Is that a glass rod you're using? The blank has that look to it.

WK

WannaKM,

Thanks.  Very good eye !   Yes, that is a vintage Orvis FullFlex 9' #9wt.  I have it paired with an old British made Orvis Madison real.  It is a big combo but lined with a RIO outbound short line with intermediate tip, I can really rip big flies 70-80 ft. with a double haul.  I put this combo together for pike/musky but as you can see it fits the bill for big shoreline trout and salmon.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 18, 2017, 11:29 AM
Thanks Trap.  When I was younger learning to fly fish I went after gills first.  Forgiving little buggers helped me build confidence before hitting those fickle trout.  

I love catching blue gills on the  fly rod ...I  think  gills can be  just as selective as  trout  but the  pure numbers   helps you find  more  aggressive  fish ...one thing I have  learned  the  bigger the bluegill the more selective he usually is today hares  ears  then  olives  on the  surface ...was a lot of  fun ...the  big  plus  today I met a  father son team  fishing before  school or work ....  made  me  smile  


                                                                                                                                    LIFE IS GOOD!!!!  
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: geo315 on Apr 20, 2017, 06:24 PM
Hit the Genegantslet  today.   A little high but caught and released two nice stockies.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Apr 20, 2017, 06:46 PM
Any of you NY guys fish the West Branch of the Farmington in CT?  If so by all means shoot me a pm for conditions.  I drive along 21 miles of the trout management area every day and live minutes from Riverton.  The fishing has been good for stockies and decent for holdovers. 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 21, 2017, 05:58 AM
low I have driven down rt 8 mass and ct and that river looks  fantastic I'd love to fish that ....pretty area
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Apr 21, 2017, 10:19 AM
low I have driven down rt 8 mass and ct and that river looks  fantastic I'd love to fish that ....pretty area

Ya the upper stretch in mass can be tough.  Once you get below colebrook and hogsback res the fun starts.  Im right off of rt8
And am spoiled having so much water to play with...

I need to drift some nymphs today....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Apr 21, 2017, 08:35 PM
Chasing the natives before the big blowout.  Was really looking forward to maybe some dry fly action this weekend but highly unlikely with the current conditions of the streams

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/gumpy2/fishing%202017/thumbnail_20170414_164102_001_resized_zpsayh7tp7i.jpg)

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Apr 21, 2017, 08:41 PM
I have never seen Oatka Creek so high. Even Scottsville-Mumford RD. is(was) closed for awhile,
West of the village. At close to 2000cfs and a ht. of 5.8 feet  it was raging today but has crested and started to recede. Give it a week.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 21, 2017, 08:43 PM
nery nice gump and I think your correct ,think I'm going to look for some rising bluegills!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Apr 21, 2017, 08:55 PM
I put the eyeball on a nice pond myself this afternoon Trapper, thinking the same thoughts.  I'm keeping that as option 'B' this weekend.  

Oatkasut,  yeah that is crazy....Irondequoit creek also.  It was out of the banks as far up as Powder Mills park, where it was into the one road there.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Apr 25, 2017, 07:58 PM
Getting used to not using an indicator...this guy hit it hard enough for me to see it!

(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/jon006/20170425_191830.jpg) (http://s758.photobucket.com/user/jon006/media/20170425_191830.jpg.html)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Apr 25, 2017, 10:04 PM
That's the way to do it! Gave up the indicator about 10 years ago.Great pic!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: chrony59 on Apr 26, 2017, 05:04 AM
That's the way to do it! Gave up the indicator about 10 years ago.Great pic!
Just curious guys ...........why give up the indicator ? I'm guessing a better drift ? I would be lost without one  :w00t:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Apr 26, 2017, 03:39 PM
For me I am no good at either but the casts are better without it at least for this guy.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: dirtydeeds on Apr 26, 2017, 04:11 PM
I have never seen Oatka Creek so high. Even Scottsville-Mumford RD. is(was) closed for awhile,
West of the village. At close to 2000cfs and a ht. of 5.8 feet  it was raging today but has crested and started to recede. Give it a week.
oatka is about perfect for the spinning rods right now, just slayed browns today on my way home from work with small gold spinners. Caught my 2nd biggest ever, was 17.5"s. Wont be long and you flyguys can have your way with em. I seen a few rise up and take some bugs.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on Apr 26, 2017, 04:38 PM
the caddis are going bonkers on a stream I frequent. First 2017 dry fly trout came today and the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and so on, wasn't wearing sandals so quit counting  :D
Nice fish gump and cord, keep it up boys
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: geo315 on Apr 26, 2017, 06:50 PM
Hit my fav lake tonite.  Trout are taking emergers.  The small bass are crus 'in  the shore  and the pannies keep trying to eat my march browns.  
The only negative was those nasty black flies. No wind, plenty flies. Geo.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: chrony59 on Apr 27, 2017, 11:08 AM
If any one cares the stocking of Oatka was cancelled last Friday due to high water ............they are doing this Saturday :w00t:  I will be as far away from any bridges as I can get ! Stockies are O.K. but I'm looking for naturally hatched fish and large ones  ;) Broke the 20" mark before the high water ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Apr 27, 2017, 02:10 PM
Chrony, you give up the indicator so that you have better control of the nymphs placement and it's movement instead of it being suspended from an indicator. By paying attention to your tight line and always feeling it, you will not miss strikes but you  may misss catching it. I fish my nymph in an unconventional manner somewhat like I fish a streamer and a wolly bugger. It seems to work for me. Give it a try and good luck.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Apr 27, 2017, 02:33 PM
Oat you are moving the nymph manually?  I was packing it in the other night and had a decent brown chase the nymph I was stripping in at a rapid rate.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Apr 27, 2017, 03:48 PM
low, exactly, you manipulate the nymph by manual stripping and by lifting and lowering the rod tip  to simulate the movement of the nymph from the bottom to the top. I  also will ply out line and let the current take it  and then retrive it by irregular strips  or rod movements. Many times as you give the nymph line the trout will slam it and hook themselves!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 28, 2017, 05:18 AM
well I use to fish without a  indicator,i cane to a simple conclusion dead drifting, I was missing hits.....I don't care how good you are you can't see every take especially without a indicator ...... personal opinion but a 9 foot clear leaderand 3 foot of tippet is hard to see drifting underwater
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: chrony59 on Apr 28, 2017, 08:05 AM
Thanks for the responses guys ..................been at it 40+ years and still learn something just about every time out ! I guess that's why I am addicted  ;D  Love this time of year so much to do  :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on Apr 28, 2017, 07:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m0QbVTWhtw&t=333s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m0QbVTWhtw&t=333s) everything you need to know about nymphing  :rotflol:. Yeah I use an indicator nymphing 90% of the time and the video is funny to me.. Don't have a segue .. Anyone fish the beaverkill or willow in may? Kinda looking to make a weekend out of it around Roscoe
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 28, 2017, 08:30 PM
I've fished both ....mayflies  Hendrickson , light cahill ,adams ....basic nymphs  however you want  some helligamite imitations as well
green or yellow caddis
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Apr 29, 2017, 07:50 PM
check the website:catskillflies.com  It gives a daily report on Roscoe area streams and also contains a forum of peoples  comments on fishing the area. I usually fish it in June either the 1st or 2nd week. There is always a place up there that's fishable unless there is massive rains. Then the only recourse is the NY city resouvors which can be fished from shore by gettting a free permit from the city of NY on the web.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 30, 2017, 03:05 AM
I'm not much of a trout fisher, but I do a lot of nymph style fishing for carp, bass and the like. I use a furled leader with either an orange or chartreuse butt section. Coat the indicator with payette paste and it floats. Pretty easy to get a natural drift and have a better chance to see the take.

For a 9 or 10' rod I like an 84" furled with appropriate tippet.

But, for crappies, a lot of times I'll use an indicator float or "thing-a-ma-bobber" and switch to a 48 or 60" furled leader.

I'm pretty sure it would work for those really smart fish too ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: SKUNK-MASTER on Apr 30, 2017, 06:41 AM
all i can hear in my head .....in the voice of Thurston Howell the third........oh lovey no self respecting trout will take your fly with that......that thing-a-ma-bobber on your line. ::)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Apr 30, 2017, 09:57 AM
I'm not much of a trout fisher, but I do a lot of nymph style fishing for carp, bass and the like. I use a furled leader with either an orange or chartreuse butt section. Coat the indicator with payette paste and it floats. Pretty easy to get a natural drift and have a better chance to see the take.

For a 9 or 10' rod I like an 84" furled with appropriate tippet.

But, for crappies, a lot of times I'll use an indicator float or "thing-a-ma-bobber" and switch to a 48 or 60" furled leader.

I'm pretty sure it would work for those really smart fish too ;D

Rg

Are you making your own leaders or buying?  What you describe sounds like something I'd like to try.  If it works on those smart carp ill murder the trout here in the farmington.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 30, 2017, 04:51 PM
I make my own furled leaders. Not hard really. I haven't used a tied or tapered store bought in more years than I remember. There's so many options with furled leaders. Length, weight, rate of taper, color......it's limitless. Takes me about 5 minutes to furl a leader to whatever spec I want. Coat with payette and they float. Leave untreated and they sink.

I keep 2 Loop tippet dispensers with sizes from 8x to 0x in my vest and a variety of furled leaders. I can change in a matter of a couple minutes.

In my book, they turn a fly over like no tied or tapered mono leader can. Top that with the fact that they last virtually forever and they win in my opinion.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 30, 2017, 05:12 PM
RG had me  test some of his leaders  2 years ago...o still have the same one on my  7wt and  use one on my 5 wt a lot ...from bluegills to bluefishthey are remarkable ..... i have told RG he should market them ....the only thing is  shoot your forward cast a little higher then with a standard tapered leader.....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 30, 2017, 05:33 PM
If they last for you Trapper. They're bombproof!

You, my friend, have a lifetime supply  ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on Apr 30, 2017, 08:09 PM
Thanks trap and oatkasut.
If they last for you Trapper. They're bombproof!

Rg
I still use the ones you sent me Rg. Picked a couple up from  online retailers as well because I liked them. Other than the writing on the plastic bag no one  could tell the difference between them :thumbup_smilie:. Only use mono leader if chucking a lot of weight.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on May 01, 2017, 03:56 AM
I make my own furled leaders. Not hard really. I haven't used a tied or tapered store bought in more years than I remember. There's so many options with furled leaders. Length, weight, rate of taper, color......it's limitless. Takes me about 5 minutes to furl a leader to whatever spec I want. Coat with payette and they float. Leave untreated and they sink.

I keep 2 Loop tippet dispensers with sizes from 8x to 0x in my vest and a variety of furled leaders. I can change in a matter of a couple minutes.

In my book, they turn a fly over like no tied or tapered mono leader can. Top that with the fact that they last virtually forever and they win in my opinion.

Rg


You make them as described here? I may have to try it.

http://midcurrent.com/knots/a-case-for-the-furled-leader/ (http://midcurrent.com/knots/a-case-for-the-furled-leader/)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: SizeMatters on May 01, 2017, 01:15 PM

You make them as described here? I may habe ti try it.

http://midcurrent.com/knots/a-case-for-the-furled-leader/ (http://midcurrent.com/knots/a-case-for-the-furled-leader/)

I know nothing about fly fishing but you old f--ts are sucking me back in.  Never heard of furled leaders but I've always been one of the best at twisting monofilament into knots.  Figured how hard can it be.  Actually whipped up two in less than an hour using 4lb. Vanish fluorocarbon using this video............  Wanted something to sink for some big 'gills and crappies. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbcVaEe3RIs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbcVaEe3RIs)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 01, 2017, 05:34 PM

You make them as described here? I may habe ti try it.

http://midcurrent.com/knots/a-case-for-the-furled-leader/ (http://midcurrent.com/knots/a-case-for-the-furled-leader/)


Kind of like that. I've been making them so long now, I don't really remember where I found the original layout. The system I use is probably unlike others. I've seen some pretty complicated operations depicted. I've threatened to make a video for quite a while.

My jig is 96" long with machined aluminum posts on a folding poplar board. A good friend of mine made the posts for me. The board is laid out for 36, 48, 60 and 72" leaders. Post positions are labeled for the various sizes. I've never seen a need for longer.

I work from a single hook at one end and wrap each side. The thread counts can be reversed if the leader taper calls for a longer or shorter butt section. Each side is twisted in the same direction then transferred to a hold point that is approximately 25% of the original length before twisting. Counting or timing based on the rpm of the drill is not as accurate and a reduction percentage.

After both segments are twisted in the same direction, they are both transferred to a single hook in the drill and twisted together in a reverse direction. As they're reverse twisted, the leader relaxes to its ultimate length. The furling is complete when it feels that the leader is beginning to shorten. The butt end receives a 2 - 3.5mm round or oval ring or a micro swivel. It's attached using a sailor's hitch with the "Nitpick". At least that's e way I do it.

The little accessories I use are just invention by necessity.


Mono furled leaders are ok I guess. I could see them for salt water fishing. But for delicate to heavy fly presentations, uni-thread are hard to beat. Too much memory in mono for my liking.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: SizeMatters on May 04, 2017, 07:52 AM
Got to practice casting into a stiff headwind.  Caught a few dozen of these.  Great fun but give me 'gills..............
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z232/Superwgr/IMG_3737_zpshrfrsmax.jpg) (http://s195.photobucket.com/user/Superwgr/media/IMG_3737_zpshrfrsmax.jpg.html)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on May 04, 2017, 08:01 PM
Got to practice casting into a stiff headwind.  Caught a few dozen of these.  Great fun but give me 'gills..............
Well done! I've only been fly fishing 2-3 years and focus mainly on trout, BUT there's only one fish that makes me giggle like a kid farting in a bathtub .. GILS on a foam fly  :laugh:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 05, 2017, 03:27 AM
Gills, Rockies, smallmouth, crappies.......all great fun on the fly.

But......we need to get you into some carp Matt.  :w00t: they're a hoot!

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: big_guy_13021 on May 05, 2017, 06:33 AM
I've had my furl leader on for almost 3 yrs and that was sent from rg he makes some good ones...
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 05, 2017, 06:56 AM
That's the problem with selling them bigguy. They hardly ever wear out ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: SizeMatters on May 05, 2017, 09:22 AM
I ordered one from Quigley's.  I learned long ago to pay attention to my elders.............. :D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 05, 2017, 12:38 PM
carp are the bomb man   :rotflol:  and  RG has a good recipe for them !!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 05, 2017, 02:35 PM
I'm anxiously waiting for the Canal to rise just one more foot.........then it's game on ;D

Don't know if I'll get a break in the weather to uncover the boat, but I'm hoping.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on May 05, 2017, 05:31 PM
Gills, Rockies, smallmouth, crappies.......all great fun on the fly.

But......we need to get you into some carp Matt.  :w00t: they're a hoot!

Rg
Just burned some cash on some dry fly necks, next will be an 8 wt.  :flex: rig for lake runs/carp
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on May 05, 2017, 08:28 PM
Carp sound fun!  Albies are my next fly rod target....can't wait!  Thats a species where these furled leaders would help alot.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on May 06, 2017, 03:34 PM
Sure would be nice if this rain took a break!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 06, 2017, 05:11 PM
It's  getting depressing for sure.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 16, 2017, 09:30 PM
I got over to the lake with the fly rod I had fun with some small gills,white perch and attempted  for a rubber nose trout which was in vein ,all in all it was fun  the Oswego river  went back up today  >:(
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 17, 2017, 05:33 AM
Fun stuff Trapper. My summer haunts have been nothing but mud holes for the last month and a half. Haven't wet a line in weeks. Just when it starts to settle down we get blasted with another round of heavy rains. I measured. 3 1/4" in the rain gauge in the last 5 days.

Good thing I have the wood shop and gardens to keep me occupied. Hopefully things will settle down for the fall.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 17, 2017, 06:20 AM
the river(Oswego) cleared came down  was very fish able ....then boom  back up again yesterday.... so back to the lake ..... lot if carp fisherman .....it is nice to see something that was considered  trash fish (includeing me) become a sport fish with so many people having fun chasing them ..... I'm going back over today ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jul 19, 2017, 02:23 PM
oatka never cleared and is still high with vis. of about 1 foot. Water temps. are getting high for trout 67 degs. this AM. Time for carp!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on Oct 05, 2017, 06:47 PM
Fall caddis have been popping off around me and the water is nice and chilly.

(https://s1.postimg.org/498zjm6jyz/IMG_1465.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/498zjm6jyz/)
Nice small stream butter belly
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Oct 05, 2017, 10:23 PM
No need for an indicator with this guy.  He hit that phesant tail hard!
(https://s1.postimg.org/5kpsy6pshn/20170923_184240.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5kpsy6pshn/)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 06, 2017, 06:23 AM
matty and low  nice fish
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Oct 06, 2017, 11:47 AM
Question...what is everyone using for fly line these days?  Ive been out of the game for so long I was baffled by the number of options.  If anyone has recommendations for a favored floating flyline Id like to hear them.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 06, 2017, 01:54 PM
depends  on  what  where distance and  budget ....i  use alot airflo  but  othe  guys  use  scientfic anglers  or  rio and  save  50 bucks
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 06, 2017, 03:42 PM
Cortland 444 on my reels. Never found a good reason to change.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 06, 2017, 04:27 PM
I think they are  all  good  I like  the  airflow  because  it  picks  up easy  but  a  rio  line  will land  just as  many fish  or a  good old  444
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Oct 06, 2017, 04:51 PM
i use to use the Cortland 444 but it would wear out after 400 hours of fishing(one season). Then went to the Rio and it has lasted 3 seasons with equal  castingperformance. Both WF 4X floating line and I use it for everything.50 trips lthis season and 260 trout.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Oct 10, 2017, 12:52 PM
Thanks guys I aporeciate the input!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: icejohn on Oct 11, 2017, 10:04 AM
Nice pics...thanks for sharing.
icejohn
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: icejohn on Oct 11, 2017, 10:06 AM
BTW...i like the kayak/canoe?....what is it?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: icejohn on Oct 11, 2017, 08:15 PM
BTW...i like the kayak/canoe?....what is it?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Oct 15, 2017, 07:28 PM
Between the new format, the debacle with Photobucket, and simply nothing to report, it feels like I have been away for quite a while.  Very busy summer at work with little or no fishing time.  Perhaps the least amount of fishing I have done in quite a while, but the reward was worth it....my first trip to Colorado.  For anyone who relishes time outdoors, it is pure euphoria. 

(https://i.imgur.com/fRhE1Iq.jpg?1)

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Oct 15, 2017, 08:50 PM
fantastic!You sold me!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: hunts2long on Oct 16, 2017, 06:10 AM
Nice pictures and looks like you had a great time. Thanks for sharing....h2l
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Oct 16, 2017, 06:33 AM
Great photos Gump...
Looks like an awesome trip....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on Oct 16, 2017, 08:25 AM
awesome gump  :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: iceman260 on Oct 16, 2017, 09:13 AM
Nice photos gump, nice scenery and fish . Little piece of heaven there.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Oct 16, 2017, 12:35 PM
some great photos thanks for sharing
 ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Oct 16, 2017, 05:29 PM
Great pics! Thanks for sharing.  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on Oct 16, 2017, 05:37 PM
Your first cuttie(s)?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Oct 16, 2017, 07:29 PM
Nice pictures.  Last one is awesome.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: icejohn on Oct 16, 2017, 09:24 PM
Simply awesome pictures....looks like an great place to go. were all the fish caught in the san juan park? Thanks for sharing.
icejohn
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 17, 2017, 03:23 AM
 :thumbup_smilie: beautiful man
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Oct 17, 2017, 06:46 AM

Awesome pics thanks for sharing
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: chrony59 on Oct 17, 2017, 11:08 AM
AWESOME pictures as usual GUMP  :bowdown: :clapping:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Oct 19, 2017, 01:41 PM
Can anyone use any of these?  I have 7 right now....
There from my neighbors Itilian chickens..  ;D
AKA guniefowel..

(https://s1.postimg.org/2qnjd6ak7f/20171019_143705.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/2qnjd6ak7f/)

(https://s1.postimg.org/19hebfbknf/20171019_143649.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/19hebfbknf/)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Oct 24, 2017, 05:32 PM
If I still tied id scoop those up.  Great material for panfish flies at the very least.

Question for the guys who have been flyfishing for quite some time.  Euro nypmhing...anyone do it?  Anyone spending money on those leaders?  Maybe its just me but if I am drifting on leader only I can feel the hit...not really looking for it so why have a marked leader? 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 24, 2017, 06:36 PM
first  before  you  can  really  understand  it  you  have  to put away  your  ego  for a  minute  .... no matter  how  fast  you are  or  how  good you think you "feel"   you  are  missing  strikes ... you can see a  strick  faster  and  more often then feel one ......  now  most the  time I  use  a   small  indicator  and  when  nymphing   specially  short  line  I  am  not  suspending the  nymph  at all  i'm  dragging the  indicator  and  watching  for  any   movement  ......  this  euro  nymphing  has  been  around   since I was a kid  they  use  to  use  pieces  of  colored  Dacron   even  it is  effective  and  a  tool  to  use   it  is  good  in   small  streams  and  your  really  doing in watching your  leader    but to  make it easy   add a  section of  high  vis  mono ....now  not to  bust anyones  bubble  but  you will see that line  move  way before  you feel the  hit  ...my advice  try it  it's another tool and  trick in your  bag
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Oct 24, 2017, 06:59 PM
Thanks Trap that was why I was asking,   Ive been fishing mostly no indicator short line or not and was trying to determine which was going to give me a better hook up ratio or at least ensure a better drift.  Ive been using pinch on palsa indicators off and on but the angering thing (and it happened night before last) is the trout hit the indicator all of the time.  Im trying to avoid adding the thingamabobber that is seemingly popular over here on the west branch of the Farmington, but perhaps that stubborness is costing me a few fish!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 25, 2017, 04:48 PM
low  as  a  general  rule  (GENERAL)  long  drifts deep pools  use  a  indicator ...like  salmon  river  steelhead fishing ....  short  small  streams   use  the  euro  method  and   if  you like to  feel a  hit you  still will with the  euro method ....  all tools  to  have  know and  use  .....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Gump on Feb 15, 2018, 10:33 AM
Wow...sorry ...just starting to emerge form hibernation  :)  I am chomping at the bit for Spring to get here and just started reminiscing about chasing wild trout and this photos

Thanks for the compliments guys. Now to answer a few questions I see I missed...

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Your first cuttie(s)?

Yes !  Took them off of my bucket list!  Not as easy as you would think.  Many of the native range for cutthroats is now being overrun with rainbows and also brook trout are thriving (as you can see form my pics), outcompeting them.  This means hiking and going into the headwaters of these streams to find them.  Yes, there are places where they are stocked that have easier access, but I wanted to try and catch wild fish in their native range.

Simply awesome pictures....looks like an great place to go. were all the fish caught in the san juan park? Thanks for sharing.
icejohn

Yes, John, all the pics of the fish I posted where found inside the national forest.  There is plenty of trout water outside the forest and parks as well, but those waters tend to have more angling traffic and are also supplemented with stocking.  You will generally find a smorgasbord of rainbows and browns in those waters.  Nothing wrong with that, but I specifically went out there to chase wild trout.  The higher you go in the streams systems (into the national forest) the better your chances of the cutthroats and you will for sure find brookies too.  I figure I better do it now while my legs will let me.  ;D  But there is planty of trout waters with all degrees of access....heck I was fishing behind a gas station in town on the San Juan river...lol
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 01, 2018, 04:53 AM
it's here ...opening of  trout season  and  most  streams  are  high ! I been  fishing  some  very  small  tribs and  having  some  luck  even though the  bigger water is raging ,don't  forget to  check ice  free  ponds  and  lakes... remember all those  tiny  brook  trout  streams   that  were 2 foot  wide?  might be your best  shot now.... I  got a  piece of  water i'll be fishing  when that sun  starts  to  rise  ,hope you all  have a  great day  and  feel a  bend rod  today  :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 01, 2018, 11:26 AM
cold  and  windy  great day to be  fishing  ;D


(https://s31.postimg.org/uzc0tokjr/opening.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/uzc0tokjr/)


2  browns  and  a  perch  ...why a  perch was  there I have  no idea  but  we are  having perch  almondine tonight
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Apr 01, 2018, 11:54 AM
Nice catch Trapp......      :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 01, 2018, 12:20 PM
dacker thank you  had  a lot  against me  this  morning  weather  run off  and  wind  but  most  important I  had  fun
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Apr 01, 2018, 12:26 PM
Way to go trapp!  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Apr 01, 2018, 01:11 PM
By the way, I think I'm officially an Old Fart today.  :D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 01, 2018, 03:44 PM
fishing machine  you  must  fish the  battenkill  a  bit , I  haven't in many years  but   we  use to rock some  nice  browns in that  water
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 01, 2018, 06:24 PM
By the way, I think I'm officially an Old Fart today.  :D

How old?

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Apr 01, 2018, 09:54 PM
60  8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 02, 2018, 03:27 AM
Happy birthday 🎂

I guess you qualify.



Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Apr 02, 2018, 08:04 AM
Thanks.  ;D
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Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 02, 2018, 08:14 AM
darn kids......  happy  birthday  man
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Apr 02, 2018, 08:32 AM
fishing machine  you  must  fish the  battenkill  a  bit , I  haven't in many years  but   we  use to rock some  nice  browns in that  water
I do, trapper, 4 or 5 times a season, but mostly the VT waters. She still holds some slammers, but is almost all catch and release until you get to the headwaters. I'll be there in a couple of weeks for the VT opening day.

I think it was four years ago (that unusually super-warm, abnormal spring we had) opening weekend that the two guys I fish it with and I were on fire! We netted 8 browns in the afternoon, and the smallest was 20"! A day we'll always remember.   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Apr 02, 2018, 08:33 AM
And, thanks!   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Apr 02, 2018, 09:23 AM
60  8)
HAPPY 60TH BIRTHDAY,YOUNG MAN
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
RAT
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Apr 02, 2018, 11:32 AM
Thank you,  RAT.   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Apr 02, 2018, 03:02 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY! YOUR YOUNG. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 11, 2018, 03:25 PM
great day on the river today ,RG's ugly fly was the ticket  about 10 am big sugar snow started falling and it made for a pretty scene ...... something about  wading a stream  and hitting that pocket water :D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 11, 2018, 06:21 PM
great day on the river today ,RG's ugly fly was the ticket  about 10 am big sugar snow started falling and it made for a pretty scene ...... something about  wading a stream  and hitting that pocket water :D

The Ausable Ugly?
Sorry I missed your call again.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on Apr 11, 2018, 06:39 PM
The Ausable Ugly?
Sorry I missed your call again.

Rg

Nice Trapper !! I still haven't caught a fish in 2018. Hoping to change that this weekend.

 Ausable Ugly has a silver bead and hackle, Sirloin is a streamer pattern and uses  coyote fur, both invented by Rich Garfield, Adirondack guide.   
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Apr 11, 2018, 07:22 PM
60  8)


     Congratulations Bill..... :thumbup_smilie: :clapping:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 11, 2018, 07:36 PM
Ausable Ugly is what some call it however I renamed it RG's coyote ugly ..... today it was  spot on and the fish loved it
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 12, 2018, 02:18 PM
I had a GREAT day and I got to switch up with  the fly rod and spinning ,kinda cold then it got wet but I had fun not sure how many I actually caught but I did keep a limit for dinner ...with this water so cold and high fish slow and deep
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 12, 2018, 02:32 PM
Nice Trapper !! I still haven't caught a fish in 2018. Hoping to change that this weekend.

 Ausable Ugly has a silver bead and hackle, Sirloin is a streamer pattern and uses  coyote fur, both invented by Rich Garfield, Adirondack guide.


You are correct sir. My ugly is a sort of cross between each of those. But it works ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 13, 2018, 03:35 AM
I'm awake at 3 am ,toss and turn till 4 am ,dreams of big browns and jumping bows keep me awake, I  think I get just as excite after all these years when it comes to fishing, I know where I'm going ,I have a good idea how I'm going to do ,even what fly I will use on my first drift....I know the strike indicator will twitch against the current and i'll feel the fish pump the rod when i lift up firmly, I know i'll  muter when i try to net the fish and my back doesn't want to bend that much these days .I know i'll admire the fish as I unhook him and that little boy in me will say keep him keep him while my better judgement will say release this one you can only keep 2 over 12 ...(dumbest rule ever) I know i'll watch  the fish  shoot for deep water when i  loosen my grip and then i'll realize I should have taken a picture (I always forget) ...I know how good that coffee will taste in the cold morning ...yes I know........it's far from my first rodeo  but I thank God above  it feels like the  first  time fishing  every time. life is good  just some times are better then others ,today will be  a great day .... just like yesterday .... ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: SizeMatters on Apr 13, 2018, 04:48 AM
I'm awake at 3 am ,toss and turn till 4 am ,dreams of big browns and jumping bows keep me awake, I  think I get just as excite after all these years when it comes to fishing, I know where I'm going ,I have a good idea how I'm going to do ,even what fly I will use on my first drift....I know the strike indicator will twitch against the current and i'll feel the fish pump the rod when i lift up firmly, I know i'll  muter when i try to net the fish and my back doesn't want to bend that much these days .I know i'll admire the fish as I unhook him and that little boy in me will say keep him keep him while my better judgement will say release this one you can only keep 2 over 12 ...(dumbest rule ever) I know i'll watch  the fish  shoot for deep water when i  loosen my grip and then i'll realize I should have taken a picture (I always forget) ...I know how good that coffee will taste in the cold morning ...yes I know........it's far from my first rodeo  but I thank God above  it feels like the  first  time fishing  every time. life is good  just some times are better then others ,today will be  a great day .... just like yesterday .... ;D
Never lose that feeling.  It's what separates fisherman from people who like to fish.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: UglyStik on Apr 13, 2018, 05:42 AM
I'm awake at 3 am ,toss and turn till 4 am ,dreams of big browns and jumping bows keep me awake, I  think I get just as excite after all these years when it comes to fishing, I know where I'm going ,I have a good idea how I'm going to do ,even what fly I will use on my first drift....I know the strike indicator will twitch against the current and i'll feel the fish pump the rod when i lift up firmly, I know i'll  muter when i try to net the fish and my back doesn't want to bend that much these days .I know i'll admire the fish as I unhook him and that little boy in me will say keep him keep him while my better judgement will say release this one you can only keep 2 over 12 ...(dumbest rule ever) I know i'll watch  the fish  shoot for deep water when i  loosen my grip and then i'll realize I should have taken a picture (I always forget) ...I know how good that coffee will taste in the cold morning ...yes I know........it's far from my first rodeo  but I thank God above  it feels like the  first  time fishing  every time. life is good  just some times are better then others ,today will be  a great day .... just like yesterday .... ;D
That's the spirit!
Not even the least bit superstitious that it's Friday the 13th?   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 13, 2018, 02:34 PM
ugly I dint even know it was Friday much less the 13th ............but I got a limit for dinner :D


(https://s18.postimg.cc/4d0u8vtr9/0413181452.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4d0u8vtr9/)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: UglyStik on Apr 13, 2018, 03:21 PM
well done. nothing 4 me yet......
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Swampking89 on Apr 13, 2018, 03:30 PM
Nice job trapp!! Looks like dinner to me!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 13, 2018, 06:09 PM
today I fished a heavy weighted muddler deep and slow I even broke one of my self imposed rules and added a couple   small split shots ............we have high water and very cold temps  I know everyone is complaining about not catching fish but truth I am having a great spring ....the secret  add weight .my plan is  to ty up some black wolly buggers with so much weight they splash when they hit the water...I plan on fishing slow and deep good luck guys ugly I was fishing close to you.... good luck on the bows
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 13, 2018, 06:16 PM
Now...tell the truth Trapper....you were using a # 6 Red Wiggler Fly......right?


(https://s9.postimg.cc/yjhlim7l7/ABFBA4_EC-6_BF7-4_DCF-84_A9-_C0_B41_AF5_ACED-8356-0000099_E9_D7339_DE.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/yjhlim7l7/)


 ;D

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 13, 2018, 06:31 PM
no a wax worm or salted minnow
 yesterday I switched to the spinning rod  tho and tossed a panther martin  was fun  today I was just into the fly rod ,....and the coolest memory for this spring is ...I seen a eagle come down and grap a big trout and fly away with it  .....yes I called him a name but it was awesome to see
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 13, 2018, 06:34 PM
Just bustin your chops.....

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 13, 2018, 06:36 PM
hey I would use them ,but I don't know how to tie them  :(
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: dirtydeeds on Apr 13, 2018, 07:28 PM
no a wax worm or salted minnow
 yesterday I switched to the spinning rod  tho and tossed a panther martin  was fun  today I was just into the fly rod ,....and the coolest memory for this spring is ...I seen a eagle come down and grap a big trout and fly away with it  .....yes I called him a name but it was awesome to see
wax worms are like trout candy when the waters are high and panther martins are my favorite spinner to use. sounds like your having a blast keep it up!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 13, 2018, 07:40 PM
today all I used was a weighted  muddler minnow  fished slow  a  wolly bugger
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Apr 16, 2018, 06:43 AM
Hey trapper, the Batten Kill is still pretty healthy.

(https://s7.postimg.cc/b9pebc0iv/IMG953063.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/b9pebc0iv/)
24 +" yesterday. The water was cold, the weather was brutal, but the fish were hungry!   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 16, 2018, 06:50 AM
that's what it's all about right there................great fish man
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: hunts2long on Apr 16, 2018, 06:52 AM
Congrats on a very nice brown...h2l
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 16, 2018, 04:39 PM
Nice job Bill. You're a tough old bird.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on Apr 16, 2018, 04:55 PM
Nice monster there MR Machine.  I was planning on doing the B kill for the Vermont opener but had a death in the family but glad to see they are biting. Maybe next weekend. 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Apr 16, 2018, 07:23 PM
Sorry for your loss.  Great trout!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Apr 17, 2018, 05:44 AM
Thanks guys. At the risk of sounding cliche, it was an epic battle.  Hooked him in a hole on the other side of a submerged tree. Brought him around the tree and he surged upstream into the current, then charged downstream for the tree. I turned him just before he got there and played him out right there. As my buddy got in to net him for me he bolted again, but with a lot less energy. As I played him back my line just touched and froze to the end of a wild rose hanging over the river. The line would slide through the ice but not pop off. Finally he drifted back into my buddy's net. That's when the hook fell out of his upper lip.

So many things could have gone wrong. If it weren't for good friends and the Grace of God above, we wouldn't have been able to take that picture!  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Apr 17, 2018, 05:56 AM
Bartman I'm sorry for your loss.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Garufi518 on Apr 17, 2018, 06:43 AM
Beautiful fish !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on May 07, 2018, 10:48 AM
Yesterday in the rain.  Thanks Garufi for the shot.  Big bow ate a quasimoto and took me for a ride.


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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on May 07, 2018, 03:24 PM

Great fish FM luck is a great ally 👍🏻
Cool shot Low
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 18, 2018, 05:29 PM
sorry been  busy chasing  some  spotted  friends  of mine.... so trout  in the morning  usually  wait  till we  have a  hatch then I  go  chase  some  rod  bending  rock  dukes ...Freddie  sorry  for  my absence  i'll  give ya a  call and  we  can hook up and  knock the spots  off a  few  of them tank scrubbers  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: dirtydeeds on May 20, 2018, 07:35 AM
question for you fly fishing veterans, Im gonna buy a fly rod and see if I can catch a fish with it. Is the ready to fish kit at walmart decent enough to start fishing with? Ive never touched a fly rod and I dont know much about it but that will soon change, just looking for advice on wether the kit is good enough to get started or is there a better kit out there to invest in? any advice appreciated, Ive always been interested in fly fishing now im finally gonna try it
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: taxid on May 20, 2018, 07:55 AM
question for you fly fishing veterans, Im gonna buy a fly rod and see if I can catch a fish with it. Is the ready to fish kit at walmart decent enough to start fishing with? Ive never touched a fly rod and I dont know much about it but that will soon change, just looking for advice on wether the kit is good enough to get started or is there a better kit out there to invest in? any advice appreciated, Ive always been interested in fly fishing now im finally gonna try it

I wouldn't buy anything at Walmart unless you're prepared for poor quality and possibly a piece of equipment that is a second.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on May 20, 2018, 08:05 AM
check out Cabela's; they sell a fly rod combo kit for $150 which includes a moderate action rod, reel, weight forward floating fly  line,backing . got one for my daughter. Good luck. The weight you get depends on what you are fishing for but a 5Wt. covers alot of situations. Good luck!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: SizeMatters on May 20, 2018, 08:16 AM
question for you fly fishing veterans, Im gonna buy a fly rod and see if I can catch a fish with it. Is the ready to fish kit at walmart decent enough to start fishing with? Ive never touched a fly rod and I dont know much about it but that will soon change, just looking for advice on wether the kit is good enough to get started or is there a better kit out there to invest in? any advice appreciated, Ive always been interested in fly fishing now im finally gonna try it
They sent an ad with one of my orders this week for this combo........same rod I ordered with other components ready to fish. Cabela's lifetime warranty on this outfit.  https://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=2665700&type=product
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: SizeMatters on May 31, 2018, 04:34 AM
Got my backordered 8 wt reel and put the outfit together, took it for a test run yesterday.  Casting into a 20+ mph headwind I managed a couple dozen nice gills 8 to 10 inches and a couple bass.  Maybe a bit much for average panfish and local trout in open water but I see the advantage in pulling these big gills and bass out of the weeds without breaking off.  Looking forward to a calmer day and bigger prey.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: taxid on Jun 01, 2018, 04:04 PM
Sounds great. Nothing more fun than catching panfish on a flyrod!   
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: SizeMatters on Jun 09, 2018, 07:37 AM
Yesterday was fly rods only, no jigging rod crutches. Took a few on the 8 wt. but the 4 wt. was the star.  Lots of fish, 7 species taken on the same fly.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/ywaa5hmjr/IMG_4424.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ywaa5hmjr/)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: taxid on Jun 09, 2018, 04:21 PM
Yesterday was fly rods only, no jigging rod crutches. Took a few on the 8 wt. but the 4 wt. was the star.  Lots of fish, 7 species taken on the same fly.

(https://s15.postimg.cc/ywaa5hmjr/IMG_4424.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ywaa5hmjr/)

Sounds like fun.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 17, 2018, 08:24 PM
Hit the backyard stream today with the 3 wt. caught gills, Rockies and smallmouth. Picked a bag of crayfish for tomorrow morning.


(https://s8.postimg.cc/ytmjrkkap/IMG_2197.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ytmjrkkap/)

Fun stuff and a nice cool stream on a very hot day.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 18, 2018, 07:24 AM
do you use a screen to catch the
 crawfish or just your hands?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jun 18, 2018, 09:41 AM
Landed pb brown for the fly on a phesant tail beadhead yesterday.  Over 18".  Should of taken a pic but after a long battle on 3.6lb tippet in warm water I said screw it. 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 18, 2018, 12:50 PM
do you use a screen to catch the
 crawfish or just your hands?

Just turn over some rocks and sneak up on them. About 50 or so in 20 minutes. Only produced a few bass this morning though. Threw everything but hand grenades. They just weren't biting. I'll go back to the stream tomorrow and have a whack at some carp.

Checked my Mulberry trees and they're just a couple days away from a really good drop.  :w00t: :w00t:

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 19, 2018, 09:32 AM
Just waiting a bit for it to warm up and I'm off the the Carp pools :w00t: :w00t:

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jun 19, 2018, 09:59 AM
Just waiting a bit for it to warm up and I'm off the the Carp pools :w00t: :w00t:

Rg

Good luck.  That sounds like some excitement.  Remind me what weight rod are you using for them?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 19, 2018, 06:11 PM
Well, I looked at the stream and opted for the 3 wt again. The carp were already cruising, a pattern that makes them near impossible to coax with a fly. Caught many smallmouth, Rockies and gills. Lots of fun.

In the stream I use the 5wt mostly for carp. On the river, 10' 6" 6 wt, 9' 8wt or the 9' 6" 9/10 wt. tomorrow morning I'm going to give them a try under the Mulberry trees on the Canal with the 6wt rigged for big game. If they don't cooperate I'll probably chase some bass with top water flies.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 20, 2018, 06:53 AM
I went and  checked a  mulberry tree near my house   big crop  on top  but  half flowered on bottom still I thing the berrys  will fall  in a few  days
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jun 20, 2018, 10:08 AM
I was after the trout last night..had to get through a trough to get to a piece of water I wanted to nymph.  Slipped and swam!  Thank god for wader belts.

Thanks for the details RG.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 20, 2018, 10:33 AM
Went 3 for 8 this morning.

(https://s8.postimg.cc/qcz13bslt/IMG_2202.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qcz13bslt/)

(https://s8.postimg.cc/65llb1ak1/IMG_2204.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/65llb1ak1/)

And...yes....those are my Mulberry flies.

The first 3 hit like freight trains (they all do) and snapped 0X tippet like it was 7X. I probably put too much pressure on them trying to keep them out of the bushes and debris on the shoreline. I got a little better at sort of keeping them under control. The 6 wt performed like a dream and I cannot say enough good things about Red Truck Diesel fly reels. They're built like tanks and are worth every cent.

I'll be back at it tomorrow.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jun 20, 2018, 11:11 AM
Bet that was fun...   
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jun 20, 2018, 12:04 PM
I better give up the trout and take up the carp! Good job, Bob. 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 20, 2018, 01:12 PM
It certainly was fun Dom.

Any time you feel like testing your equipment and arms Sut, I have a few carp spots.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jun 20, 2018, 02:14 PM
Saw some monsters on the Knail fishing for bass on fathers day...
Dean had one on for 30 seconds that he accidentally snagged but his crankbait pulled out of it....
Gave his bass rod a good bend.. Good thing his drag was loose or he would have lost a new $7 lure..
.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 20, 2018, 02:38 PM
The 0X tippet I use is 14.4 lb. Never had another fish that could flat out snap it. Especially with the furled leaders I make. They absorb a lot of shock.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: MattyP123 on Jun 20, 2018, 05:21 PM
Nice one Bob!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 21, 2018, 12:57 PM
Went 2 for 5 this monring. Broke two off in the sticks and junk on shore and one Knot failed.
(https://s8.postimg.cc/tmetwe8ip/IMG_2207.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tmetwe8ip/)

(https://s8.postimg.cc/3qv3d7tu9/IMG_2209.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3qv3d7tu9/)

Used the good old Lamiglas 9' 9/10 wt with a South Bend 1166. The  second one was a real slug. Took me 20 minutes to get it in the net. It was pulling the boat around in circles.

Probably another week possible for this action.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jun 21, 2018, 01:24 PM
Nice that must have been quite the ride!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jun 21, 2018, 03:10 PM
Nice job......
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: SizeMatters on Jun 21, 2018, 07:39 PM
 :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Jun 21, 2018, 07:51 PM
Well done, RG! That sure is a tank in the last picture. 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 22, 2018, 10:51 AM
Carp 1-----Rg 0 :P

Only one taker this morning. Leader Knot failed.water temp dropped 6 degrees overnight. 43 when I went out this morning.

Oh well!

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Jun 22, 2018, 04:09 PM
That's fishin'. There's always tomorrow.   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 22, 2018, 06:38 PM
Made up for it this afternoon with a trip to the " backyard stream".

A few nice smallies, Rockies, bluegills.
(https://s8.postimg.cc/3mkbncwc1/IMG_2213.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/3mkbncwc1/)
 This clutch of wood ducks was swimming circles around me as I fished.
(https://s8.postimg.cc/g2h1gzus1/IMG_2218.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/g2h1gzus1/)

Don't know where Mama was.

Must have caught 100 fish in 3 hours. Nothing huge, but, who cares. Seriously fun day with the 3 wt.


Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: SizeMatters on Jun 22, 2018, 07:31 PM
Seriously fun days are the best!   :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: fishnmachine on Jun 22, 2018, 09:34 PM
There you go!   ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 12, 2018, 03:37 PM
cut offs for waders   sun screen and bug dope  ,foam flies  ,gaint may flies and ice in your creel  ......  some of the best  fly fishing is now  weather you are after trout  bass or gills ...... I did well   the other day in the trout
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 12, 2018, 04:32 PM
Long wading pants for me. Too many encounters with stinging nettles.

Rg
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jul 12, 2018, 06:22 PM
cut offs for waders   sun screen and bug dope  ,foam flies  ,gaint may flies and ice in your creel  ......  some of the best  fly fishing is now  weather you are after trout  bass or gills ...... I did well   the other day in the trout

Ive been having a blast myself.  Nice fish in the faster water down here.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 15, 2018, 04:48 AM
i had the motorcycle out last night and stopped for a coffee  setting under the tree the noise   was really loud ...cicades!  I looked it up and brood v11 is hatching in the finger lakes this year, now I'm a few miles away from the tatgt area buti know  I heard cicadas  and wondering is anyone else  has heard any.

I just looked it up and a btood was to hatch this year in the Syracuse area .... if your a fly fisherman a few  cicada  imitations will produce  huge browns and delight  bass  .....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 03, 2018, 01:25 PM
been chasing a few salmon  but  decided the last few days to  see if I could catch some big blue gills .....I hit  a favorite spot and even ran into a old childhood friend fishing .... I was using the 5 wt  with a bead head  pheasant ,a foam strick indicator about 5 foot up I was fishing in 5 to 7 foot i had a great time and caught more then enough for dinner both days






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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Sep 03, 2018, 01:55 PM
Nice fish bud , looks like some 10” bulls in that mess 🎣
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 03, 2018, 01:59 PM
I called ya  Freddie  but you musta been  being grandpa ^5 ....yeah was a few pigs  .....  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Sep 03, 2018, 03:43 PM
Looks like a good time and nice eats.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Sep 03, 2018, 03:45 PM
Nice bucket ya ol fart.... :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 03, 2018, 08:20 PM
got to keep  the rust off the fillet knifes ya know
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Rugburn on Sep 04, 2018, 07:24 AM
Camped on the Beaverkill over the long weekend. Now I'm not much with a fly rod, but within the first 10 mins of fishing I managed to land a nice native brown. Sort of surprised myself. What beautiful markings and colors, not having a camera on me and wanting a quick release I didn't get any pics. Most of the anglers I ran into were full on Orvis, but like Trapper shorts and sandals worked good in the 67 degree waters for me. Bucket list, check.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Sep 04, 2018, 10:07 AM
got to keep  the rust off the fillet knifes ya know

Im guilty of having some rust.  Tog season is coming though!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 04, 2018, 10:33 AM
Camped on the Beaverkill over the long weekend. Now I'm not much with a fly rod, but within the first 10 mins of fishing I managed to land a nice native brown. Sort of surprised myself. What beautiful markings and colors, not having a camera on me and wanting a quick release I didn't get any pics. Most of the anglers I ran into were full on Orvis, but like Trapper shorts and sandals worked good in the 67 degree waters for me. Bucket list, check.


><{{{{{*>    artist rendition of rugburns trout
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Sep 04, 2018, 07:19 PM
4 bows tonight in the fast water.  Pat's rubber legs fly did a good job.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bigal409 on Sep 05, 2018, 05:14 AM

><{{{{{*>    artist rendition of rugburns trout
Your a good artist Trapper :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Rugburn on Sep 05, 2018, 05:55 AM
No, it had more spots than stripes.   :P
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 07, 2018, 07:21 AM
little cooler  ...headed to my bluegill spot  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 08, 2018, 04:37 PM

(https://s8.postimg.cc/iw258t769/20180902_130236.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/iw258t769/)

oh  those  pesky  blue  gills  paid  again  today  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bigal409 on Sep 10, 2018, 05:50 AM
nice looking meal there Trapper.  :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 11, 2018, 07:53 PM
we got a few  al ...... and  that week  end  spot should be on fire for you  :thumbup









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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bigal409 on Sep 12, 2018, 05:10 AM
we got a few  al ...... and  that week  end  spot should be on fire for you  :thumbup
Hoping it still is this weekend. It's on fire today but work gets in the way of my fishing :( :(









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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: icejohn on Sep 13, 2018, 08:04 AM
trapp, my hand is healing and should get out tomorrow, can't really fly fish right away but goin after pannies tomorrow...btw love your pic..."Never Forget"
john
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: icejohn on Sep 14, 2018, 06:47 PM
Only got out to a pond today with the four of...tried trapped idea...tried a beadhhead with bite indicator and did really well on gills and one dandy sunnies.
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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 15, 2018, 07:05 AM
looks  good  to me john!  great  day  :thumbup_smilie:


I had a  great day  myself  went to a  small  stream  withing bike  riding distance of my home  ....now  in  30 years of  fishing this   new York stocked  stream I have only ran into one other fisherman  ever ..... granted  by  this time of the year I have  most of the  trout named  but  I  fished a posted  area  of the  stream   ( i'm  the only person to  ever knock on the door and ask)  and  kept a  few  for dinner


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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: icejohn on Sep 15, 2018, 02:44 PM
Nice..I need to go for trout one of these days.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Sep 17, 2018, 10:27 AM
Yesterday was a good day for these!

(https://i.postimg.cc/pmg5Nr2p/20180916_083455.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/pmg5Nr2p)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Swampking89 on Sep 18, 2018, 05:55 AM
Nice bow Jon!! Looks like a native too!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 18, 2018, 04:33 PM
very pretty rainbow  ......... wasn't my  day  at all  few  gills  one  small small small smallmouth and the  famous chub




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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Sep 19, 2018, 08:44 AM
very pretty rainbow  ......... wasn't my  day  at all  few  gills  one  small small small smallmouth and the  famous chub




(https://i.postimg.cc/fJcN6nbq/images_NXJG0_F16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fJcN6nbq)

I caught a dace that day.  No chubbs for me.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 19, 2018, 07:46 PM
most streams  from the carskills to the onondaga county streams i fish  are running high bur  water is brown i had time and went looking   beaver kill del. willow  and cortland all looked like chocoalate milk  so did the  susquehanna on 17 i stoped at one of my favorite streams  in onondaga and it was brown  ....the day wasn't a loss i had fun looking and  did some scouting for bow season ,seen alot of young deer feeding during the day ... my totals today were zero fish  and 3 coffees  2 sausage and egg mc muffins .....think i'll go beat up some more salmon  :D






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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bigal409 on Sep 19, 2018, 08:03 PM
Hey trapper. Salmon River isn't chocolate.   :laugh:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 20, 2018, 08:53 AM
Be there tomorrow buddy pet scan for someone today
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 20, 2018, 09:10 PM
pet scan was good ..... :thumbup_smilie:  fishing in the morning
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 21, 2018, 05:42 AM
I woke up early  then fe;; asleep and slept late ................duh   now I'm deciding should I go hit the gills or chase a salmon ......hmmmmm
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bigal409 on Sep 21, 2018, 05:47 AM
You'd better go for the salmon. They're only around for a short time. gills will always be there.  :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Sep 21, 2018, 06:45 AM

Glad all’s well Trapp 👍🏻
Chase the gills Trapp , wait a while and the crowds will thin out , and chase big browns and steelhead , there will still be sharks around
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Sep 21, 2018, 07:39 AM
thinking if the rain hits i'll go to my favorite coho spot :D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: bigal409 on Sep 21, 2018, 08:53 AM
thinking if the rain hits i'll go to my favorite coho spot :D
coho? did someone say coho? I'm in Trapper  :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 09, 2022, 05:14 AM
here uglystick thank you
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 01, 2022, 04:26 AM
well it's opening day 2022and i'm waiting to be able to see   waders are already on ....GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Apr 01, 2022, 05:22 AM
Good luck.  I’m going to work.. :P
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Mac Attack on Apr 01, 2022, 08:20 AM
I was going to go today.
Even built a flyrod over the winter to use.
(Bob didn't like it, but I didn't build it for him.   ;D )

Anyway, just way too much work to do before we head to Florida next Wednesday with the motorhome.
Also, the weather really sux.
I'm done with cold weather fishing.

Maybe in 3 weeks when I get back home and if the weather ever gets better I'll take off a day and go out and walk a few streams.

Good luck to the guys who went out today.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 01, 2022, 06:10 PM
cold  windy day  even  snowed a  few times pretty bad but the  trout  were there and  i had a great time ...ayy on a  bead head  pheasant tail  and  a bead head  hares  ear .......i  told fred i know  some  trout that are  dieing to meet him  :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 01, 2022, 06:17 PM
Good luck.  I’m going to work.. :P

i would have  wrote you a  excuse!!!!

to whom it may concern  ,it is my  opinion Dacker needs  at least a  24 hour  period  to relax  and trout  fish for health reasons

                                                                                                                                                                  sincerely
                                                                                                                                                                  Dr. R.L.Trapper mmf
                                                                                                                                                                   thank-you
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Apr 01, 2022, 07:19 PM
i would have  wrote you a  excuse!!!!

to whom it may concern  ,it is my  opinion Dacker needs  at least a  24 hour  period  to relax  and trout  fish for health reasons

                                                                                                                                                                  sincerely
                                                                                                                                                                  Dr. R.L.Trapper mmf
                                                                                                                                                                   thank-you

 Thanks pal but I put my time in to get the last week in April off for our spring trip.. ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 01, 2022, 07:54 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/VSKmt0tF/1-F351-F27-0-D53-4-A08-85-B1-FD2-C0-BD346-DF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VSKmt0tF)I went weed trout fishing this afternoon!! 😁Snowing and wind was blowing…..
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 02, 2022, 03:16 AM
that's a grass trout Larry their no good , toss  them up on the bank for the  raccoons.........i think the book says they rate  right along with mooneyes and rudd
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 02, 2022, 06:56 AM
🤣
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Mac Attack on Apr 02, 2022, 10:09 AM
that's a grass trout Larry their no good , toss  them up on the bank for the  raccoons.........i think the book says they rate  right along with mooneyes and rudd


invasive species.

you can kill them.
Like gobies

Good only for gardens

My dog and the neighbor's cat won't even eat those greasy things Trap.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: KingPerch on Apr 02, 2022, 04:02 PM
We don’t eat them… but, really enjoy catching them. Putting some new baits to work for the bass. They proved they work in very cold water. Just what we were looking for!!🎣
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 02, 2022, 05:47 PM
 i hear small ones make good live bait for pike and big ones make good cut bait for catfish, any truth in that mac???
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Apr 04, 2022, 08:46 PM
We don’t eat them… but, really enjoy catching them. Putting some new baits to work for the bass. They proved they work in very cold water. Just what we were looking for!!🎣

Tough crowd larry.  Can't say I disagree with them.  You'd make Roland Martin proud.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 05, 2022, 04:48 AM
i give larry credit he and josh are both  top sportsmen and very good bass fisherman .......they talk the talk but they walk the walk .....

now yesterday i had a great day on the stream active fish  and it was nice out hope for another day like that
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Mac Attack on Apr 05, 2022, 09:16 AM
i hear small ones make good live bait for pike and big ones make good cut bait for catfish, any truth in that mac???


that's what I've heard.

 ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 05, 2022, 09:18 PM
these trout regulations are crazy  same stream same stock truck same creek walk  1'2 mile and you could be violating the law  ..... who ever thought of this should be fired
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: gotagetm on Apr 05, 2022, 09:27 PM
Lol there's a creek I fished growing up ( oatka) there was a bridge you could use live bait off on side other side was artificial lure only not sure it's still like that it was in Mumford ny just out side Caledonia
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: hunts2long on Apr 06, 2022, 06:19 AM
Fished Oatka a lot when I lived in Chili....h2l
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 03, 2023, 05:33 PM
i got this old thread  out and dusted it off .....wanted  to  share  some  of the   stores  and   new  products i am tring  this  year  ...... first thing  i got was a megnetic net  release  this  keeps  my  net on my  back safe and away   i use it   can drop ie and  it  has a  cord to  keep the  net safe till you pick it  back  up  swing iy to your  back and it's  back in place  .....i suggest you  put the  megnet  on the  top of the net  not the handle!!!!   if your a stream  fisherman you'll love this!!!!
https://www.orvis.com/magnetic-net-release/2TB81400.html?adv=127748&cm_mmc=plas-G-_-fishing-hunting-_-149964673807-_-2TB81400&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4OWbjt2O_gIVuebjBx2_Qw-uEAQYASABEgK7IvD_BwE (https://www.orvis.com/magnetic-net-release/2TB81400.html?adv=127748&cm_mmc=plas-G-_-fishing-hunting-_-149964673807-_-2TB81400&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4OWbjt2O_gIVuebjBx2_Qw-uEAQYASABEgK7IvD_BwE)

i also purchased a  new fishing  bag  great if your packing light and  moving  ...... Piscifun Fishing Tackle Bag with Rod & Gear Holder...

https://www.amazon.com/Piscifun-Fishing-Storage-Shoulder-Backpack/dp/B074NXCWX6 (https://www.amazon.com/Piscifun-Fishing-Storage-Shoulder-Backpack/dp/B074NXCWX6)

unlike  a  day  pack  you  do not  have  to  take this  off to get into it  it  easily  carries a  rod  and  a  bottle  32.99  i think it was  a  great deal  for a  bag i  don't have to set my pole down and  take off  to get into   .....   
https://www.google.com/search?q=Piscifun+Fishing+shoulder+fishing+bag+video&oq=Piscifun+Fishing+shoulder+fishing++bag++video&aqs=chrome..69i57.14756j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:06e2b10d,vid:DO4dPa0qnvQ (https://www.google.com/search?q=Piscifun+Fishing+shoulder+fishing+bag+video&oq=Piscifun+Fishing+shoulder+fishing++bag++video&aqs=chrome..69i57.14756j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:06e2b10d,vid:DO4dPa0qnvQ)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 04, 2023, 02:39 AM
 sorry i  didn't post a  video on how  to attach a  megnetic net release ....i think  most stream fisherman   would really like  having  one if you don't    try one  mine is  from orvis  but  you can get one off amazon  for half the price  what i paid  for  mine ...... great piece of  gear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMxJJqjDXa8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMxJJqjDXa8)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on Apr 04, 2023, 08:48 AM
Thanks, funny you bring this up because I just bought one (and a new trout net) a few weeks ago. When I was younger, I carried a net (the wrong way) but got sick of it hanging up on everything so I quit carrying one. I was on the Delaware River back in February in a good spot but it was tough to land my fish so I said right there, "I'm getting a net and a magnetic release." 

Still haven't had a chance to use them but hopefully soon.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 04, 2023, 10:35 AM
your going to love it  bart   ...my suggestion  is  have  the   net   between your  shoulders and  the   hand  where  it's  easy to  get too .... i was like  you   tossed the  net  strap over  my  shoulders and  it was hung  up on  every bit of  brush i walked  by ....np  with this set  up
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: hunts2long on Apr 04, 2023, 04:07 PM
Speaking of trout nets, the wife picked up an new Orvis trout net at a garage sale last summer for .50. Looked it up on Orvis website, $85.00. Some one is not happy in town. I will let her go again this summer...h2l
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 04, 2023, 06:50 PM
wow  thats  a  deal   
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 05, 2023, 04:52 PM
walked  up a  stream i  fish  ......  caught a  couple  small browns    decided  to try another spot  i walked  back  down  theres a  pond  and seen  my  first  baby geese  of the year ....i was  really surprized  with the  weather going  up and  down i figured it would  be  awhile.....wasn't  my  best day  but far  from  worse  i didn't rock the  fish  but had  fun  seen the  little  goslings  and  then i seen a  eagle  flying  ......got  rained on  lol 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Apr 06, 2023, 07:00 PM
that seems early for baby geese right ? She had to be sitting by what mid march ?  I was still sitting on the ice !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 07, 2023, 04:30 AM
i could not believe it   myself  it takes 28 days for canadian goose eggs to incubate
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 11, 2023, 11:52 AM
i had a  really  great day  on the  water  ....2  browns i think might be hold overs  15 inchers   a few  10 and  a  1/2  and   a  big  blue  gill that  inhaled the  phesasant tail   was  a  good  day andd i'm having a trout dinner tonight   ;D


(https://i.postimg.cc/N94Q9wYH/aone.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N94Q9wYH)



(https://i.postimg.cc/sGQ0Fpng/athree.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sGQ0Fpng)

met  another  nice  fly  fisherman  had a   great day  all the  way  around
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 12, 2023, 10:17 AM
A great morning I had to release some beautiful over 12 trout ended up sharing my spot with a father and young son and that made it the perfect day.                           
(https://i.postimg.cc/Z9gMd6hh/IMG-20230412-110938.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z9gMd6hh)
Dinner looks good everything was on pheasant tails
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Mac Attack on Apr 12, 2023, 01:14 PM
I love pheasant.
Loved hunting them too back in the 60’s, 70’s, and early 80’s when they were still around.

Nice catch Trapp!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 12, 2023, 04:21 PM
lot of fun hunting  pheasants  when the state  actually stocked them  now  they stock  less and  less ....small game  hunting is  dieing ......  anyways  mac  as far  as  big trout i  been fishing  waters off the regular paths and it's paid  off with   some  nice   size  trout  and the  gills i been getting are  nice too !!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 13, 2023, 09:21 AM
what a  change  from yesterday!!!!  not  one  trout  ...i  did  get  some  nice  bluegills a few on  foam
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 18, 2023, 08:35 AM
Had a great morning have to call it quits early all fish on a pheasant tail .   
(https://i.postimg.cc/FYnJBLm9/IMG-20230418-081007.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FYnJBLm9)
Fish for dinner
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on Apr 18, 2023, 01:24 PM
nice variety.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Apr 20, 2023, 07:12 AM
Nice haul!  Are you fishing the PT on still water under an indicator?  Ive always wanted to get into midge tips and still water fly fishing.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 20, 2023, 11:37 AM
i  love a  indicator, when  used  right   you see so many  more  hits   i use the  indicator  fish   still water  for  gills too!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 20, 2023, 01:42 PM
Guess what I'll be cooking tonight fresh trout and bluegills.   
(https://i.postimg.cc/PLdTpLND/IMG-20230420-143751.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PLdTpLND)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: filetandrelease on Apr 20, 2023, 06:33 PM

 Nice
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 21, 2023, 09:15 AM
worse  day on  trout in 2 weeks! too  really small rainbows so i  switched  up to the  blue gills  and they are  slobs  photos  later
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 25, 2023, 10:09 AM
I thought this was really cool . I tied some black spiders last night to fish with today and got a decent brown trout.i figured lunch when I went to clean him he had a old white spider in his mouth I pulled it and the hook was rusted and broke ......
(https://i.postimg.cc/ThvJTQ1x/IMG-20230425-110413.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ThvJTQ1x)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 25, 2023, 10:26 AM
if you  zoom in on the  browns  head i set the old  whit spider and  my  black  spider i  took him on  ....the  white  spider  had about a  foot of tippet material  still on it that  was  all  brown and  slimmy  i wonder how  long  has this  fly  been  stuck in  his  mouth?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 25, 2023, 11:12 AM
That’s pretty cool Rick. Think it was one of your flies?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Apr 25, 2023, 12:34 PM
Thats awesome. 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 25, 2023, 03:44 PM
no it was  not  one of mine it was  a  pre made spider body  fly   the hook  fell apart  when i  grabbed it with my hemostats  i'm sure the  fish was a  hold  over  but  with  c & r fishing allowed all  year  who knows  and  like me was the fisherman  looking to get  some of the  monster gills here ....either way  it was really cool  for me  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: ECobb91 on Apr 25, 2023, 04:34 PM
Nice fish and a pretty cool story too. You definitely have a special place if you can catch big trout and panfish in the same water
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Apr 25, 2023, 07:51 PM
Cool story about the spider,I'll have to try one ,never have used one. BUT have caught them on bumble bees, ants, and grass hoppers of course. Love dry  fly fishing even when there is no surface activity!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: iceman260 on Apr 26, 2023, 03:05 AM
Cool story and very nice fish.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 26, 2023, 11:16 AM
well i  never thought of a  foam spinder as a trout  fly however this  is mostly a flat water  place and the  the spider sure  worked  on that brown (twice)..... i have to say  i think i have had  more fun fly fishing this  year then i ever have  before...and   met some  very nice people along the way  ......oat i have  used the  bumble  bee ,ants, and  grasshoppers myself  i have  noticed  if you tie a  yellow  spider  put  some  black  stripes on it with a sharpie and  watch the increase  in  hits .......keep  fishing and  have  fun .......

and thanks it was a  nice brown  about 15 or 16 is my guess
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Apr 26, 2023, 04:19 PM
OK all you fly guys, you have this old fart talked into giving it a try.....but I need a little advise  Here's what I have:
        A  7' Fenwick 3 oz rod    with a Plueger  medalist reel    And  #6f  line   Some kind of tapered leader but that's about all I know about it   It was spooled up by Ed Bendyl of Northville when he was still active in the trade. He's gone now. I told him I had in mind steam Brookies so that's what he put together for me. I've never used it.

  So,  I would like to target Bluegills as that is where I get my jollies when not after walleye or bullheads. I could stop to Bass Pro in Utica and purchase a modest assortment of flies to get started if you guys would offer some suggestions as to what to get. I don't know the fly names. Also wondering if I should keep a spare leader?  And what type. This should be an interesting venture.

I would appreciate any help and I'll be sure to keep y'all posted.  Thanks guys
(https://i.postimg.cc/cr3nPcH5/20230424-151743-Fenwick-7-3-oz-fly-rod.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cr3nPcH5)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 26, 2023, 04:37 PM
pm  me yer address  and i'll hook you up  with  some  blue gill flies  to get you started  .......  bluegills are  awesome on a  fly rod .... you do need a  line to  match your  rod
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 26, 2023, 05:52 PM
So that nice old Fenwick should cast well with a 5 wt line. For a leader I would probably forget the tapered leader and tie on a 5-6’ length of 4x tippet for a butt section and 18” or so of 5x tippet. . It’s only a 7’ rod so you aren’t going to be making any “hero casts” of 50’ with it at this point.

The fly line is probably old and may not want to cast very well. You’ll figure that out soon enough. Do some practicing in the back yard.

I’d also be happy to send you some of my favorite bluegill flies. It’s a slippery slope…but a ton of fun.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 26, 2023, 06:40 PM
in a month he'll be  buying a  vice  and  a addict .........
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 26, 2023, 07:02 PM
Well, pricing an addition to his house for his fly fishing room.

We should be ashamed for enabling like this.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: hunts2long on Apr 27, 2023, 05:49 AM
62 & done, Ed was a great guy. He was my first boss when I got out of the Navy in 1965. His shop was about half a mile from me. My "go-to" jig rod was repaired for me by him and it is still going strong....h2l
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Apr 27, 2023, 09:40 AM
62 & done I build my own leaders using various lengths and diameters of maxima chameleon.  Happy to build a few and send them your way.  If you can tie blood knots they are easy to make. 

*they arent as fancy as rg's furled leaders but they work.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 27, 2023, 01:58 PM
Furled leaders aren’t really fancy…but they’re pretty.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 27, 2023, 04:44 PM
RG simply makes the  best and strongest leaders i have  ever fished ........  end of story
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Apr 27, 2023, 05:48 PM
sounds like the who's who of fly fishing here.  You guys have got me all wound up & ready to whip up some water. Hope the fish don't mind a clumsy oaff  trying to trick them.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 28, 2023, 03:04 AM
well 62  you already have the  best  fly fishing tool available too you that  most old farts didn't have  and it's going to set you years ahead in the  fly fishing learning curve  .....and thats the internet .....you can pour your self a  cup of  coffee  and  in your  free time  have  casting instructors and  equipement  experts  showing you  everything you need  and how to use it  you  have  great fly tyiers  ready   to teach you   how to tie  any fly you will ever  want and you have  many  other fly fishing  enthusiast right here  waiting to share   experiences  and personal  fishing  information  ......  it's a great sport and you'll love  it .......
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Apr 28, 2023, 07:14 AM
Furled leaders aren’t really fancy…but they’re pretty.

They are.  Havent tried one but I hear the turn over with them is really nice.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Apr 28, 2023, 08:57 AM
I'm assuming that a furled leader is made with some type of fancy knot?  Just guessing here as I've got a lot to learn you see.

   So Trapp How did you do this morning?  It was a beautiful start to the day. I spent my morning shooting archery, I'm into that too
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Apr 28, 2023, 09:03 AM
You're right about the net there Trapp, I just learned what a furled leader is Daaa  boy I got a lot to learn

 I also have a digest on tying lots of different knots  Aside from the blood knot which I use already, which ones should I brush up on and for what ?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 28, 2023, 10:45 AM
I very few  knots for fly fishing. A blood knot for tippets and improved clinch knot for flies. I can tie either in the dark…which is good…..because tippet material looks like hair to me these days.

For loop to loop connections I just use a figure 8 when I need it.

I’ll send you a furled leader with the flies. You’ll probably only need one…if you don’t lose it. They do work well for most applications. They float with a dab of payette paste and sink without it. I make some with a bright colored butt section as an indicator.

They’re fun to make.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Apr 28, 2023, 12:49 PM
super !    all I need now is a new hat so I look the part !
     I'm looking forward to this
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 28, 2023, 03:23 PM
in a  hurry i  don't even use a  blood knot  a  surgeons  not and  where  back  fishing  .......62  learning  is   half the fun  it's a  new  world  ......  but  when time comes and you catch a really decent  fish on a fly you  constructed  ........  it just doesn't get any better then that
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 28, 2023, 03:28 PM
Big straw hat is my choice. You can douce it with bug spray, dip it in the stream to keep you cool and it keeps the flys out of your ears…..the flys you’re casting that is… if you cast like me anyways.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Apr 28, 2023, 08:17 PM
I very few  knots for fly fishing. A blood knot for tippets and improved clinch knot for flies. I can tie either in the dark…which is good…..because tippet material looks like hair to me these days.

For loop to loop connections I just use a figure 8 when I need it.

I’ll send you a furled leader with the flies. You’ll probably only need one…if you don’t lose it. They do work well for most applications. They float with a dab of payette paste and sink without it. I make some with a bright colored butt section as an indicator.

They’re fun to make.

I imagine you built your own jig to make em?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 29, 2023, 04:19 AM
Yup! I’ll be twisting a few up later today. I’ll take some pics of the setup. Pretty cool process. Always amazes me that it works.

Good rainy day project.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 29, 2023, 11:09 AM
So this is my jig.

(https://i.postimg.cc/R65PLjWx/IMG-0106.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R65PLjWx)

Right now it’s set for a 48” leader. Thread is wound from post to post  in two separate bundles. I then pick up the end of each bundle, remove them from the posts and twist each clockwise to a pre determined length. It’s hard to explain clearly, but each group of threads in a bundle is passed through the previous bundle at the post, interlocking them. No matter the length of the leader , I only use 6 posts.

I use these hooks I made to do the clockwise winding. When they land comfortably on the nail posts they’re at the right length and have the right amount of twist. Tension is just a matter of feel after many years of trial and error.


(https://i.postimg.cc/0z51pKL0/IMG-0108.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0z51pKL0)

Each strand is removed and transferred to a modified hook in my drill and wound counterclockwise together. Thus the furling process is complete.

(https://i.postimg.cc/5XPGM7jZ/IMG-0109.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5XPGM7jZ)

(https://i.postimg.cc/cvZZJbxC/IMG-0110.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cvZZJbxC)

Then a loop called a “Shorb Loop” ( named after its inventor) is applied to the butt end for attachment to the fly line by a loop to loop connection. A tippet ring is added to attach whatever tippet you chose to use. I apply a dab of super glue the the thread at the tippet ring. Attaching that ring is arguably the hardest part of making one of these. Pretty tiny for my fat hands.

(https://i.postimg.cc/yD5BsYbh/IMG-0112.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yD5BsYbh)

(https://i.postimg.cc/9wWHJ4D2/IMG-0117.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9wWHJ4D2)

And there you have a furled leader. Perfectly tapered, no knots and relatively indestructible.

 I figured out how to add in a hi-vis  color to the butt section that works really well. Haven’t seen anyone else that does this.

(https://i.postimg.cc/3y0z3Xs9/IMG-0118.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3y0z3Xs9)

A lot of the manufactured leaders are made from polyester thread. I tried a couple and don’t like how limp they are. I make mine from 6/0 prewaxed unithread. More expensive I suppose, but I don’t make that many and the uni thread just casts like a dream.

I’d sell them but if someone bought 2 or 3 they wouldn’t need another for several years. So I just make a few for myself and friends. I can make them from 36” to 80” in weights from dry fly to monster bass flys. My carp leaders look pretty much like rope to me.

The only disadvantage I see is that they do carry some water with them and a couple false casts are needed before setting the fly down so as not to spook a skittish fish. They sink very nicely and float like a cork with a light coat of Payette paste.

The whole setup can be gathered and assembled for a super small investment, assuming you own a drill.

If anyone wants particulars I’d be happy to oblidge.


Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Apr 29, 2023, 12:39 PM
Thanks for all the details RG.  The high vis option is really cool.  Great way to spend a crappy weather day.  All of our local trout water is in the process of being blown out.  May try some warm water fly action tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 29, 2023, 12:47 PM
Yeah…I’m sitting here with 20+ winds and on and off rain. Supposed to mow greens tomorrow morning…..we’ll see about that.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Apr 29, 2023, 01:30 PM
Yup! I’ll be twisting a few up later today. I’ll take some pics of the setup. Pretty cool process. Always amazes me that it works.

Good rainy day project.
    looks like somebody knows what they're doing
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Apr 29, 2023, 01:53 PM
Learned a bit about it guess.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 05, 2023, 02:24 PM
One of the kids ( the Super’s son) at the golf course where I work part time is a seriously addicted fisherman. He asked me today if I would show him and his friend, who works with us, how to fly fish. They have a fly rod ( probably from Walmart)

I couldn’t be happier than to take two 20 something’s (maybe) who want to fish and teach them a bit. We’ll have a few lessons this week and I’ll donate some flies to get them started. The break room at work is starting to look like a Bass Pro showroom.
I don’t mind a bit. Pretty nice young men.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on May 05, 2023, 03:53 PM
That's great, they'll be hooking fish in no time with your tutelage.

Are there any water hazards on the course the hold big bass?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on May 05, 2023, 04:40 PM
rg yur ok in my book- hope those youngsters adopt a new hobby   I haven't made it out yet too much weather -too many chores Went mushroom looking this morning but came home with an empty stringer    oh ya, I found a new spot to waylay a deer this fall after I take care of a few bushy tails, so it worked out
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 05, 2023, 06:04 PM
That's great, they'll be hooking fish in no time with your tutelage.

Are there any water hazards on the course the hold big bass?

The whole course is built around a swamp/ creek system. It’s 3.5 miles end to end. There’s more fish holding water there than a Blue Heron (our namesake) can hunt.

There’s bass, pike , crappie, gills, bullhead, carp and who knows what else.

I’ll make the effort to teach. As an old man, if they pay attention, I’ll continue to teach. If they don’t….I’ll show them the way to the primrose path.

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 05, 2023, 06:07 PM
62….go get those flies wet! It’s prime time!

I’ll be on my spot at 6:00 tomorrow morning. More fly testing to be done. Not much better than a good bluegill on a 2 wt.

Especially when it’s a 2 wt you built yourself and a fly you tied.

Yup……life is good and too short to worry.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: gotagetm on May 05, 2023, 06:17 PM
Nice bob…and your very correct!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 05, 2023, 06:18 PM
i have to apoligize  to 62 i was going to mail something to you but i had a family emergency....things are on the right track again and i'll be mailing something ....thanking everyone for the post  it kept me sane last few days .....now i will be putting the boat in and seeking my favorite  fly fishing target ......the ever aggressive rock bass............  cool side note i stopped by lake Neatahwanta in fulton and seen a loon!!!!! that made my day never seen one there before
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on May 07, 2023, 12:24 PM
We went looking for wild browns yesterday morning in a state park close to home.  Imagine my surprise when she asked to go back out in the afternoon.  She said Dad you catch em Ill let them go.  Good enough for me!

(https://i.postimg.cc/R33ZxzHL/20230506-122559.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R33ZxzHL)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on May 07, 2023, 01:27 PM
Not to worry Trapp I know as well as anyone how stuff happens.  Lots of "stuff" out there to happen when it's least expected  We'll get there

  It's gonna happen in the next day or two RG--  promise
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 07, 2023, 01:42 PM
We went looking for wild browns yesterday morning in a state park close to home.  Imagine my surprise when she asked to go back out in the afternoon.  She said Dad you catch em Ill let them go.  Good enough for me!

(https://i.postimg.cc/R33ZxzHL/20230506-122559.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R33ZxzHL)

Doesn’t get much better than that.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on May 08, 2023, 06:29 AM
Nice shot, get those kids exploring the great outdoors, love it.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on May 09, 2023, 11:51 AM
Thanks guys.  She is a great fishing partner!  Asked about kids waders...need to make that happen.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 09, 2023, 01:10 PM
Absolutely!

Took the young man at work a fly fishing care package yesterday. Backing for his reel, a fly line I had in excess, furled leader, some leader material and a bunch of flies. He’s a kind of  an “I’ll figure it out myself “ sort of person. Which he did….I think. Anyway he’s going fly fishing.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on May 10, 2023, 06:55 PM
Yahoooo!  I did it and had an absolute blast. I have to give thanks to several on here for their words of encouragement, advise, and generosity. I started out this morning gazing into an assortment of beautiful hand tied jems that recently came to me. Being totally new to fly fishing, I feared I would lose half of my new flies. So I opted to go to an old dusty container from yesteryear and start with whatever was in there. After tying on a crusty old muddler minnow, I made a few awful looking casts until finally that fly landed about 25' away from the boat. A slurp and a splash and a swing and a miss

   Wow did that just happen?

 Sure enough with a couple more casts it happened again,  Huh  Maybe I won't be so quick next time to set the hook.  Yup it worked first fish on a fly I can't believe it. That fly caught a half dozen fish over the next little while until a 12" pickerel came to the party and then no fly.
Back into the dusty little box I go. there were 2 shiny bright green nymph's with nothing more than a whisper of a black tail & black head. ( I don't know many fly names).
I tied one on and that fly Brought bites on every other cast. I missed most but hey we're learning. A few good gills went into the box and then my poorly tied knot gave way and somewhere there's a gill with some new lip jewelry. I fished the remainder of the day with the 2nd green nymph and it now looks it.

I learned a lot today. More from the mistakes I made than actually catching the ones that I did. Next time I'll go int my new arsenal and try some floaters as that seems really cool when they boil on the surface. I'm going to have to produce some prettier casts as it wastes a lot of fishing time when you have to untangle a mess. It's also difficult to fish in the wind and standing on your line really kills any chance of a good cast.

I'll keep after it and who knows maybe they'll ask me to join the old farts club. The fly fishing  one.

         Thankyou to all who have helped.  I'm hooked
(https://i.postimg.cc/wRx9WWFS/First-fish-on-a-fly.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wRx9WWFS)

(https://i.postimg.cc/56Rf3SzR/and-then-came-the-rest.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/56Rf3SzR)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 11, 2023, 02:11 AM
Awesome! You’re in!

Get that rod out in the yard. Tie in a piece of yarn or something without a hook and practice. It’s all muscle memory and feel.
Casting from a boat can be a challenge. Line gets tangled up around anything it can find. Keep the rod up and take your time. Most of my crappy casts come when I get too quick.

I was struggling with my 2 wt yesterday. Wind was in my face and it just didn’t have enough oomph to get any distance. Had a few rod tangles as the wind whipped the line on the fore cast. I have a 3 wt with a 4 wt line for those occasions but didn’t have time to go back home and get it.

It was mid day and the gills weren’t active anyway.

And yes, give them a second or two when they slurp the fly off the surface then just lift the rod or you’ll most likely pull he fly away from them.

Glad you’re having fun.

The young man I helped at work is having a lot of fun. He’s hooked for life.

Try that yellow and black fly with the white rubber legs.
(https://i.postimg.cc/2Lk4mDxk/IMG-0130.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2Lk4mDxk)

We’ll get you into tying next.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 11, 2023, 06:52 AM
62 you are now one of us .....i suggest a second job to pay for your new addiction .......  i love the sound of a blue gill slurping a fly in the morning!!!!  it sounds like......victory
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on May 11, 2023, 06:57 AM
I did have fun ... Glad I got into this.  Now, what to do with all these other rods......
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 11, 2023, 07:08 AM
 :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on May 11, 2023, 07:57 AM
Glad you got the itch! When I am using a fly that produces and I don't want to lose it, I retie it to the tippet after I catch a ten or so  trout.That assumes your tie can withstand 10 or so hits/catches without falling apart! Sometimes it takes only one!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on May 11, 2023, 09:14 AM
sound advise      even those little fish have choppers that will gradually chew a line apart      I've lost some good ice fishing jigs when the bite was just too good to stop long enough to retie a knot
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 11, 2023, 12:25 PM
Ahhhh, ride till it bucks you. There’s always more flies in the arsenal. At least I’m never short.

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on May 11, 2023, 05:12 PM
speaking of Flies;  This is for everyone who fishes, ties, collects, or thinks about it. I happened to stumble upon a shop in Gloversville (Fulton County) today that blew me away!  The Fly Shack at 28 E. Fulton St. in G'ville was mind blowing for this fisherman. REALLY  A store which has more than I knew existed, and 3 full floors above for online sales. And Yes I bought some things. Fly line is half of what I just spent at bass pro. Any one travelling thru there would enjoy the stop. call ahead (1 800 801 2318) as they have odd hrs.
  The shop keeper told me that they do have a selection of ice stuff that they put out later
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 11, 2023, 07:25 PM
The Fly Shack has been my supplier for many years. They’re great to deal with. Very reasonable prices, shipping and selection. I buy all my books from them.
I can’t say that about many shops.
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They earned a place on my bench.

Anglers all is another that I’ll deal with. Again and again.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: ECobb91 on May 11, 2023, 08:16 PM
Fly Shack is great. Me and my dad order from them whenever we need new fly gear. Their basic flies are great for less than $1 a piece, so much so we haven’t tied our own in quite some time as we just end up buying them through the Fly Shack. Only ones I make myself now are thunder creek minnows.

I actually just placed an order through them today and my dad bought a fly reel from them a couple weeks ago. We’ve been meaning to make a run out that way to visit the shop in person, it’s only about 45 min east of us.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 11, 2023, 08:32 PM
I’d do that myself but it’s 177 miles from my home. I’ll order online from them. Maybe someday a field trip.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on May 13, 2023, 12:47 PM
Far from an old fart.  I caught a couple wild browns, couple stocked bows.  He played in the water with his sister. It was perfect.

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 13, 2023, 01:09 PM
Cute! Been a long time since mine were that little.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on May 13, 2023, 01:44 PM
Cute! Been a long time since mine were that little.

They grow up fast.  I had no intentions of focusing on fishing so when a nymph got stuck...the socks and shoes came off and I went in.  Felt like a kid again.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 13, 2023, 01:52 PM
A great example for sure. Enjoy while you can.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on May 13, 2023, 04:13 PM
Precious for sure.  I had that color hair in the day  those days are gone with the color :laugh:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 14, 2023, 01:25 PM
Turned in my fly rod for my ultra lite, some worms and a bobber today.

Right choice. Water was way warmer than the air and the north winds would have made casting a fly, appropriately, near impossible……with the 2 or 3 wt.

Anyway I caught a lot of nice gills and a nice smallmouth. All released to hit another day. Fun for sure.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 14, 2023, 02:34 PM
i fried a panfish grand slam  gills perch crappie and a few rock bass ...... :D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on May 14, 2023, 07:58 PM
never thought of that as a grand slam  Hmmm   wonder if there is an award for that   ???
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on May 15, 2023, 06:42 AM
After family stuff I got out from 3-730.  Nice afternoon, lots of guys getting off the water early.  Then there was a great spinner fall and no one but me to enjoy it.

62 I still need to build you leaders, do you fish for trout at all?  Or will you be?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on May 15, 2023, 07:09 AM
Nice. Same thing happened to us in the Catskills this past week. Everybody's back at their cars taking their waders off and we're putting our head lamps on and heading down to our spot at 7pm for the magical 2 hour night bite. 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on May 15, 2023, 09:16 AM
Nothing against those guys right Bart!  When the iso's start popping those are dark finishes for sure. 

I'm going to go back tonught after work.  I was using the 3w euro setup last night which worked ok but I would have caught more on top with the 5w.  (I'm just not very good at dries)

Also need to pull the sink tip off the 6w and go back to floating and start mousing.  Flows are perfect for it.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on May 15, 2023, 04:05 PM
After family stuff I got out from 3-730.  Nice afternoon, lots of guys getting off the water early.  Then there was a great spinner fall and no one but me to enjoy it.

62 I still need to build you leaders, do you fish for trout at all?  Or will you be?
    That's how I started fishing in dad's footsteps.  An old Mitchell reel and some kind of cheap rod. I was armed with a bunch of CP Swings and a box of worms.......Memories
        As for trout fishing with a fly, I can definitely see that coming as I hone my skills a bit, but I'm baffled as to how to manage swinging a fly line on some back country stream amongst all the trees. That will be a sight for sure. Hope nobody is around to report what they saw.  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:  I'm wanting to get out to a little pond that I normally fish only thru the ice, but I think there is a opportunity to wade along the shore and get some practice.  Just waiting for this wind to lay down.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 15, 2023, 04:53 PM
Get a  copy of Pat McManus’ book, “A Fine And Pleasant Misery” . A good read and a good laugh with a view into the fly fisher’s soul.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on May 16, 2023, 06:29 AM
I'll check that out RG.  62 I have days where I feel like I catch more trees than fish.  One night I broke my 6w fishing a mouse, it got stuck in a tree.  I tried to pop it out with a quick jerk of the rod...broke it. 

Ill make you some leaders for still water.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on May 16, 2023, 01:30 PM
I had a nice bout with a tree this past week and the tree won (twice) much to the amusement of my son who was watching me flounder from just upstream.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 16, 2023, 02:18 PM
Ha! We’ve all been there many times. I undid did a tourist tangle a couple times this morning in the wind. If we fished all day every day, we’d be the PGA pros of fly fishing……and probably starve.

It’s part of the patience of fly casting.

I guess it’s patience anyway.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on May 16, 2023, 04:22 PM
Its all part of the fun.  Can tell you my fly fishing for stripers has been super limited but can confirm that a clouser bouncing off the back of my head hurt a lot.  Wind and that forward cast sometimes...ouch. Kid stuff for me tonight means no magical spinnerfall.  Looking forward to the full night trips.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 16, 2023, 05:26 PM
hmmmmm fowl weather   lot of  trees  ....the roll cast is my friend
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on May 18, 2023, 08:38 PM
Round 2   What an idiot, or was it the wind. I did everything wrong that was possible. In my haste to tie a lousy knot, land a fish, or force a cast into the wind that was just not possible, I made myself look like Steve Martin. Remember the movie? Ya that's right- the jerk. I lost too many precious little flies and got myself entered into the fly fishing hall of shame.
  I think maybe I've got some learning to do. I tried a couple times today to use some surface flies but with the wind that was a mistake. I did catch a few nice gills by accident with a couple crappie in the mix but it was not easy. I may try some 3lb trilene ice line as a tippet mtl. I think it is just as strong as the 6lb tippet mtl that I am using and my grizzled old hands can tie a much better knot with it than that tiny stuff. Some of the heavier stone fly nymphs got a lot of bites today. I couldn't catch most of them but it was good practice.
   I'll be out there......somewhere
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 19, 2023, 03:40 AM
One thing about fly fishing…..you never stop learning.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on May 19, 2023, 07:19 AM
62 I tied a crappy knot last night lost a nice brown and was left with the telltale pigtale, these things happen! Seguar invisix makes for some cheaper fluoro tippet if you are so inclined. 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on May 19, 2023, 08:00 AM
You're on your way 62. Wind can be your friend or your greatest enemy.

I still remember to this day when I was a kid, my father buying a fly rod and reel kit, taking it out on the lawn and casting until he had all the fly line wrapped around his neck.  He was much better at bowling.  ;D

Keep at it.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 19, 2023, 11:27 AM
Just got back from fly fishing for a bit. Very heavy south wind but it was at my back. Made roll casting easy. Sub surface flies were the winners. Tried a few new patterns I came up with. Some winners some losers.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on May 19, 2023, 11:32 AM
What were you after RG?  Warm water stuff?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 19, 2023, 12:27 PM
Just playing with some big gills near my home. Had a couple hours to kill. Water temps dropped a lot yesterday, but they were still somewhat active.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on May 19, 2023, 05:15 PM
I was concerned with the temps yesterday.  Until after 9:00 am I thought I would get skunked. When the sun got high and warm they started biting. very active mid day
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on May 19, 2023, 06:49 PM
Just playing with some big gills near my home. Had a couple hours to kill. Water temps dropped a lot yesterday, but they were still somewhat active.

Nice thats a good time.  I have a spot a couple minutes down the road thats good for them.  Easy way to kill the last hour before dark.

I slipped out of work early and got a round in on the trout.  Much slower bite around 3 compared to 7 but there were a few trout to be had. 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 19, 2023, 08:49 PM
62 you caught fish ......your doing better then you think .....the rest will come with experience ..... and yes taking fish on top is really fun but......most my fish come subsurface
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on May 19, 2023, 09:19 PM
Thanks trapp  I owe you guys big
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 20, 2023, 07:41 AM
Just got back from testing some flies.I was about 3 for 5 on the surface. Then I tried a new wet fly I came up with.
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They liked this one a lot. Gonna rain most of the day. Good time to tie flies and clean fly lines.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on May 20, 2023, 07:43 AM
I like that one too!  I was watching a movie called "living the stream" with joe humpfreys and he was swinging wets at night catching big trout.  Always wanted to try that.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 20, 2023, 07:54 AM
I put that one together for bluegills. Hard to say what else it would entice. Not much more fun than catching fish on a fly you came up with. Don’t think I could fly fish at night. 5x tippet looks like hair to these old eyes….even with 2 pairs of glasses.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on May 20, 2023, 09:03 AM
I'll bet that's a winner rg  I had a scud of some sort that same green color  on my first outing that the gills clobbered until a pickerel ended up with it   You really have a talent there
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 20, 2023, 10:07 AM
Nah…..just an old fart with a fly rod.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on May 20, 2023, 06:18 PM
went to a little pond today -figured I'd walk the shore line with hip boots. Never thought about it being a weekend -  guess I'll have to try again in a couple days
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Johnnh on May 20, 2023, 06:37 PM
I am considering an Orvis Clearwater Combo 5wt 9ft for fly fishing on my Oldtown Sportsman 120 pdl kayak. Target fish are trout, sunfish, bluegill, white perch and smallmouth.

Any comments good, bad or ugly are appreciated.
John

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on May 20, 2023, 08:40 PM
Any 9' 5w will work great for what you are targeting.  Specifically if you stick to smaller size streamers.  Id imagine that rig will work great.  Also might be worth grabbing an extra spool at some point and running a full sink if you want to tow streamers around on the pdl.

One thing I want to get into this year is fishing chironomids with a midge tip.  I know a res that has a lot of trout that sip those little guys and apparently this is a very good way to get after them. 

https://www.youtube.com/live/cj8kV2P9RvQ?feature=share (https://www.youtube.com/live/cj8kV2P9RvQ?feature=share)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: ECobb91 on May 21, 2023, 06:15 AM
Ended up at a small lake yesterday with my dad for a few hours. Went there with our bass gear all loaded up and some worms to dangle dangling for panfish.  Started out great with some slab bluegills and perch so once we got to a spot with a break in the wind I pulled out my little 6’6” 2wt fly rod that I built myself

Man that was some of the most fun I’ve had lake fishing in a long time. Caught probably a dozen bluegills and pumpkinseeds that were 8-10” long.  that 2wt it felt like I’m fighting a tarpon with the bluegills  ;D

a little squirmy worm was the ticket and it got beat up so bad the only thing holding the elastic worm to the hook was some florocarbon I wrapped around it when it started to come apart after a few fish.

We both completely ignored the bass for majority of the time we were there.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Johnnh on May 21, 2023, 10:10 AM
Lowaccord66,
Thanks for your response.
I think i will pull the plug on the Orvis clearwater 9ft 5wt this week.
I will probably use it on some streams as well.
Quick question: Do you ever use Helgrimites? (Nasty biters but worth the pain)
John
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on May 21, 2023, 11:55 AM
John I'm curios about the kayak  Is it stable enough to stand up and swing that fly rod?  I've been searching & trying to decide on a kayak, or sportspal canoe  I just want something light and manageable by myself.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 21, 2023, 12:59 PM
Flies you tie won’t bite you.

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A “go to” for me when the water warms up.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Johnnh on May 21, 2023, 02:24 PM
62 and Done,
The kayak is 85 lbs, peddle drive is 19 lbs
Add fish finder, 10 amp hour battery, 4 rods, tackle, etc and your at about 135 lbs.
I back my truck down the ramp or put the kayak on my cart. I am not young , but i manage loading and unloading ok.
Very stable and no problem standing up.
Go to youtube and you will find all sorts of videos
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: hunts2long on May 21, 2023, 07:06 PM
John I'm curios about the kayak  Is it stable enough to stand up and swing that fly rod?  I've been searching & trying to decide on a kayak, or sportspal canoe  I just want something light and manageable by myself.

Not sure if kayak, fly fishing and standing up is something anyone over 50 should be doing...h2l
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Johnnh on May 21, 2023, 08:27 PM
The Old Town Sportsman 120 pdl is a very stable platform. The key is balance. I spent 15 years of my career as a utility lineman. Climbing poles, towers, ladders and those comfortable days in a bucket truck all contribute to good balance and self confidence.
I am well past that 50 mark and understand the comment about being older and I certainly admit standing up on kayak is not for everyone.
John
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on May 22, 2023, 04:42 PM
Lowaccord66,
Thanks for your response.
I think i will pull the plug on the Orvis clearwater 9ft 5wt this week.
I will probably use it on some streams as well.
Quick question: Do you ever use Helgrimites? (Nasty biters but worth the pain)
John

I dont use them or have flies to imitate them outside of larger black buggers. I typically dont see many in the rivers I fish. 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on May 22, 2023, 05:37 PM
I occasionally use a Hellgrammite pattern in the Catskills primarily.  I found a pattern many years ago that works. I'll see if I can dig one out of my box and take a pic.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 22, 2023, 07:50 PM
A lot of patterns imitate a stone. I think they’re off the mark.

 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on May 22, 2023, 08:25 PM
Some of the perdigons I use are really just a bead at the end of the day.  I use to think matching the hatch was the end all be all of this sport.  I was very wrong.  Except trico season...trout ellude me during that hatch.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 23, 2023, 01:07 PM
Just finished cleaning and conditioning 5 fly lines. Gotta take care of the gear.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on May 23, 2023, 01:58 PM
Yes, good advice. They collect dirt and grime pretty quickly.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 23, 2023, 02:17 PM
Yeah, at $100 each they deserve some love. I have about 20 fly lines in various conditions and weights. Some are 20 or more years old and still serviceable.

I highly recommend Cortland fly line cleaner. Been using it for ….well……a very long time. I strip my lines into a dish pan with a mild solution of Dawn and warm water. Run them through a wadded paper towel. Rinse them and dry them. Then I apply the line cleaner and conditioner. It works. Period. They cast like new .

Best thing is, by handling the line from end to end you find out if there’s any nicks or kinks. You also get to stretch the line a bit which is very healthy.  If it’s a double taper you can decide to reverse it if necessary.

A frugal fly fisher …….I am…..I guess. Anyway, nothing bettean a smooth casting fly line.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on May 23, 2023, 06:09 PM
  Got out on a little pond this morning for a few hrs. Really didn't plan on much of a catch there but the plan was for some casting practice and some playing with different types of flies. First I found out my one year old hip boots leak terrible leaving me with 2 wet feet. Great
  Next : the fishing/casting  I do think I saw some improvement today. With the lack of wind, it was a little easier to make some progress. So I caught some fish, all of which were set free.   The best was a 12" large mouth  who thought he was a 12' orca. He came from the depths and attacked a green beetle like floater (thanks Trapper) as if it was a baby seal. There were some gills, and a couple crappie who also added to the entertainment. Also had a very affectionate pooch swim out from shore to see what all the fun was about. I must have looked a bit silly as every half hr I could be seen arranging and rearranging all my stuff in my vest just to make sure it was all in a proper place to be handy.

  So, with all that said, any body have a remedy for weather checked hip boots? There are no holes just a bunch of cracks. Paid good for those boots.

     Hope every body is enjoying this dribble.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on May 23, 2023, 08:20 PM
Just finished cleaning and conditioning 5 fly lines. Gotta take care of the gear.

I'm glad you mentioned this.  The price of a spare spool is steep and its already time to pull the full sink off my 6w and put the floating line back on...it needs a cleaning real bad!  Didnt think of dish soap.

62, loon makes a uv wader repair resin that has worked well for me.  Might be worth trying.  Nice thing is it cures in seconds. 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 24, 2023, 12:20 PM
Well Trapper you were right. Gills were a bit slow this morning. Tied on a scud and they slammed it. Put a few in my box just because..To be honest I think it’s the first time I’ve ever fished a scud with the fly rod. Always used them ice fishing.

Good advice……thanks.

We never stop learning about this game of out smarting a fish. Out smarting a fish…….gives me pause for thought.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on May 24, 2023, 03:34 PM
rg did you fish just the skud, or did you put it on as a trailer behind another fly ?     Tomorrow may be my only opportunity for a few days and I'm sure it will be a tough bite with the temperature drop and the breeze.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 24, 2023, 04:57 PM
Just the scud. It was a bit heavier than I wanted. But, it sis the trick.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on May 24, 2023, 08:06 PM
Cress bug pattern should do well too.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 24, 2023, 08:49 PM
RG  scuds are a great fly and scuds are a major food source for many fish ......when gills are slow a  small  no weight scud allowed to fall very slow often triggers hits  with reluctant fish especially close to the bottom  in deep water weighted  seems better .......  play with them on slow days and they will find a place in your box ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 25, 2023, 02:48 PM
I had a great day first I beat the snot out of a bunch of small mouths and 2 bucket mouths then a dinner of blue gills 
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 What a great day to be alive
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on May 25, 2023, 03:34 PM
Nice👍👍👍
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on May 25, 2023, 06:40 PM
Yes indeed Trapp, a great day. My morning plans got scrapped a 4 am when I looked out at my flag which was at full salute and the trees were swayin' so I got a little more shuteye.  About noon the wind started to settle so I jumped into the truck and made my way to the Little pond by way of the hardware store. I got a roll of gorilla water proof tape. A little pricey at $18 buck for 4" x 10' .  I put it over the weather checks on my boots and it stays where you put it and leaves you with dry feet.  Off to the water :  I got into a nest of gills between 6 and 8" and stood in one spot for over an hour continuously catching fish. They would take almost any thing that floated on the surface. Just didn't want white no sir they wouldn't touch it. Brown' green, orange, didn't matter they hit it. Hav'in a blast. Thank you guys.  I'm going to steer clear of the water for the weekend but I'll be back at them next week.
          I'll be in you're back yard this weekend Trapp....Archery Shoot at Deerslayers
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on May 25, 2023, 06:45 PM
I second Traps comment about scuds. They are deadly for wild trout especially in Spring Creek!Pink is a good color.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: hunts2long on May 26, 2023, 05:49 AM
62, good to hear the "leaks" are fixed. About them not liking "white", I learned that when there are a lot of white things on the water, like cottonwood, cherry or apple blossoms, etc, white was not the go-to pattern...h2l
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 26, 2023, 06:32 AM
always  hang waders   never  fold them .....rubber ones  i  spray  with armor all  when i hang them   
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on May 26, 2023, 08:41 AM
hunts2long    that's a good point about all the white stuff - never thought about that - there was a bunch

 Trapp I agree with that _ I took them right out of the box after bringing them home and never folded them again but that is right were  they checked  Only used them a couple times last year   Big disappointment. Never thought about treating them, that armor all is good stuff. Just don't clean the inside of your vehicle with it as it leaves ugly white streaks.  Yes that's from experience


  If any one is fishing this weekend, get out early and finish early as it's going to be very busy with the holiday and nice weather.   Good luck!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 26, 2023, 04:26 PM
I’ll be out at first light…for an hour or two. Lots of stuff to do around the homestead….and ribs getting happy for the Weber later on. Shaping up to be a beautiful Memorial Day weekend.

Remember those who gave their all to give us this opportunity. It gives me pause for thought.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: ECobb91 on May 27, 2023, 08:48 PM
Finished a 9’ 4wt that I built this week and ended up sneaking out for a couple hours with my dad while my wife and mom watched the baby.

Broke the rod in by catching about 6 trout, one being 14-15” which is my second biggest on a fly. We were amidst  one of the best hatches we have seen in quite some time, at one point I counted 6 rises within 2seconds of each other. Both of us missed 3 times the amount that we caught. Really couldn’t figure out what they truly wanted. Early in the night they would eat the fly stripping it in but wouldn’t commit to wet flies or nymphs. Lots of blow ups without hooking up too. Great way to spend some time with my dad
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 27, 2023, 08:54 PM
nice ecobb great way to spend time with your dad
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 28, 2023, 09:09 AM
Gills are on the beds here. I’ll leave them alone for a while.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 28, 2023, 03:08 PM
i don't think you'd hurt the population RG ......i been having a great time fishing
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 28, 2023, 05:17 PM
Ah…I have a plateful (of stuff to do)  at the moment anyway Trap. More important to get a hitch on my new car to tow my boat.

Besides, Memorial Day is a parade of boats in my favorite spot. I can wait.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 28, 2023, 05:34 PM
new  car  ......nice  ......  i fished  the river  ,lot of boats going threw ,i was thinking about going out in boat this evening but instead was drafted to help a friend wire his 48  chevy
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 28, 2023, 06:10 PM
Sounds like a good alternative.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on May 31, 2023, 10:30 AM
Got a few yesterday : was  a great day with slight breeze so I made for the lake. I struggled finding fish and then found a batch in 10-14 FOW.  There were many fish but few willing to come up to the surface. I switched to a sinking nymph bit still it was very slow waiting for that fly to sink far enough to get to where they would respond. Maybe the bright sun ?  What should I have done ?  Was thinking of looking for another Pluegar 1494DA so I could rob the spool and put on a sinking line for such times. Maybe someone has one they would like to sell ?  All in all it was a fun day, great weather.


       farm to table:
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(https://i.postimg.cc/XpNct8B3/20230530-195557.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XpNct8B3)

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on May 31, 2023, 03:04 PM
would any one know the difference between these reels :    Pfluegar  1494DA   &   1494 1/2       will the spools interchange ?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 31, 2023, 03:21 PM
No the 1/2 is a wider spool than the Da.

For the price you could do much better. I’d save a few bucks and buy a Red Truck Deisel. Last you a lifetime. Mine has….so far.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: gotagetm on May 31, 2023, 03:39 PM
Well me and wife going to New Hampshire tomorrow through Sunday so got 4and 5# rods out of barn ...we haven't touched them in couple years but pond at lodge we rented has big pond and streams around. .should be interesting to say the least ...still nursing shoulder in sling but can reel!!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 31, 2023, 04:17 PM
now i never fished  with a  Red Truck Deisel reel  but i  love  my orvis  battenkill great price and  i haven;t  worn it out yet
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on May 31, 2023, 04:38 PM
Just a tank of a click and  pawl reel with a reasonable drag system. Pretty much bomb proof. Not a skeleton reel by any means. Just really well built.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on May 31, 2023, 08:55 PM
i have never fished with one ....sounds like a great reel
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: ECobb91 on May 31, 2023, 09:17 PM
I’m partial to Ross Reels, expensive, but they look like a piece of art, especially the colorados and new evolutions.

Im lucky in that when I worked at gander I got 60% off Ross and Scientific Angler. Basically paid $200 for a $400 Ross Evolution LT reel and $100 SA textured line. There’s no way I could afford that set up now haha.

For under $150 It’s hard to beat an Orvis Battenkill, Lamson Liquid, or even a Cheeky Pre-Load if you want one that already comes with line. I just started using the Cheeky and so far it’s great for a die cast.

Reels are mostly just line holders for us as we don’t catch big enough fish  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 01, 2023, 08:31 AM
we catch fish ?????
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jun 01, 2023, 03:29 PM
well, I'm really tryin trapp....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 01, 2023, 05:01 PM
looks like you had a great dinner to me   :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 02, 2023, 12:44 PM
Tried this morning. Caught some , but the cottonwoods are in full bloom. Gave up and worked on the gardens.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 02, 2023, 05:30 PM
got some nice gills and bass  today.....lot of early morning fun
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 05, 2023, 12:24 PM
This one was the ticket today.
(https://i.postimg.cc/HjNjFtGg/IMG-0162.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HjNjFtGg)

Gonna have to try some other color combinations on this pattern. It’s a keeper.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on Jun 05, 2023, 02:39 PM
Nice going, fly looks fishy for sure.

I haven't been out in 2 weeks but hope to get the boat out for some pannies in the morning. 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 05, 2023, 03:37 PM
Yeah…they were short hitting on top water and my go to flies. Put that ion and it was game on. A good couple hours after work this morning.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jun 05, 2023, 06:55 PM
Got-em today     Started out searching for fish as they had vanished from last time's spot. Found them by jigging with the ultralight in 14 fow and they seemed stuck to the bottom. Immediately switched reels to go to a sinking line and tied on this crazy bug with beaded eye balls that sinks well. RG knows what it is - maybe a dragon fly larva ? Don't know how deep I got but enough to get the attention of a few. With 8 keepers in the box the wind was cranking, and this novice could not put a fly anywhere near where he wanted. I switched back to the ultra light and some gulp alive fish fry to finish with a limit.  This stuff is fun.   Also tried trolling for walleye earlier but only 1 short one.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/K1LrY8Q7/20230605-095801.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K1LrY8Q7)

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Jun 06, 2023, 07:15 AM
Nice, Don!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 08, 2023, 02:10 PM
Tested some flies this morning. They only wanted top water stuff. Some were small. But they hit hard. Fun stuff on the 2 wt.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: taxid on Jun 08, 2023, 03:41 PM
Got-em today     Started out searching for fish as they had vanished from last time's spot. Found them by jigging with the ultralight in 14 fow and they seemed stuck to the bottom. Immediately switched reels to go to a sinking line and tied on this crazy bug with beaded eye balls that sinks well. RG knows what it is - maybe a dragon fly larva ? Don't know how deep I got but enough to get the attention of a few. With 8 keepers in the box the wind was cranking, and this novice could not put a fly anywhere near where he wanted. I switched back to the ultra light and some gulp alive fish fry to finish with a limit.  This stuff is fun.   Also tried trolling for walleye earlier but only 1 short one.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Yh0dt7J8/06-05-23.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Yh0dt7J8)

(https://i.postimg.cc/qtsL1v3B/20230605-094919.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qtsL1v3B)

(https://i.postimg.cc/K1LrY8Q7/20230605-095801.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K1LrY8Q7)

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That's awesome! That's what I hope to be doing on my vacation in less than a week.

I know of a reservoir where they aren't even listed as species, they are big enough to straighten fine wire hooks, and large enough it's tough to just pull them straight in.  Most of the locals would rather catch a 10 inch stocked trout over a 10 inch bluegill, which is fine with me.

It will probably be strictly catch and release as I have plenty of fish in one of my private ponds to eat, and I don't want to stink up the Airbnb I'm staying at if I deep fried.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jun 08, 2023, 05:30 PM
Thats my kind of reservoir
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 10, 2023, 08:31 AM
Not much more fun than bluegills on a fly.
(https://i.postimg.cc/r0tvDdtV/IMG-0226.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/r0tvDdtV)

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jun 10, 2023, 11:52 AM
Just returned from the Catskills, fishing the Willow and the Upper Beaverkill. Hatches on the 'kill were major from 3-8:30PM getting all trout on dries including  BW olives, sulfurs, iso emergers, p- black and tan  caddis,  griffith's gnat, Adams. On Wednesday afternoon the sun was one orange ball behind all the smoke. got over 30, biggest about 15 inches, missing countless fish . Water cool at 58 but very low and in need of rain BADLY!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 10, 2023, 06:34 PM
oat  nice  report  glad you had a great time
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jun 12, 2023, 05:43 PM
  Another rough day today. Went to my favorite water with all intentions of spending a few hrs tossing a fly. As usual, I devoted the first 3 hrs of daylight pulling the lead core in search of walleye. At 8 am with 4 in the box I switched gears and broke out the fly box, and headed for the Gill spots. Then it started , the wind. Dam it !  I spent more time untangling, retying, sorting messes , and doing a lot of cursing.  I'm glad there are no rules about cursing in the middle of the lake. I'm glad I didn't wreck any thing other than my high hopes. I've decided that any wind will cancel any intentions of fishing with the fly pole. At least for this old fart. Was really disappointed that I had to give it up. I managed to save the day with the ultralight and came home with a nice batch of gills as well as the 4 eyes.
  Now it's back to watching the weather and waiting for a "good" day.

                 SHUCKS !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 13, 2023, 12:39 PM
So I decided I was in a rut. Been so happy fishing my 3 wt for gills that I’m ignoring other opportunities.

So…..I’m going to fish every fly rod in my collection. One each day I can for different species. That’ll take 16 days if all goes well with the weather. I’m hoping it warms up a bit and the creeks don’t go to crazy with the rains this week.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: gotagetm on Jun 13, 2023, 01:30 PM
Good luck bob!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 13, 2023, 01:41 PM
Thanks. Pulled one rod off the shelf that I built in 2012. A TFO Axiom, 9’ 5 wt. I never really got along with that rod. Took it out in the yard for some practice. Tried a WF5F, a DT5F and a DT6F. The DT 6F cast like a bullet. Think I could cast a full line with it.

It’ll get its turn.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: myemmy on Jun 13, 2023, 02:33 PM
Rod builders can you add a butt extension to a fly rod, and is it easy
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 13, 2023, 02:39 PM
Depends on the reel seat. Might have to custom make one to fit. I only have one on my heavy carp rod. Hard maple turned on my lathe.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on Jun 13, 2023, 03:50 PM
Sounds like fun RG, good luck with the adventure.   
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: ECobb91 on Jun 13, 2023, 05:29 PM
Rod builders can you add a butt extension to a fly rod, and is it easy

It’s definitely possible but the level of difficulty lies in the reel seat and amount of epoxy used for the cap.

You take off the butt cap, splice in another section of rod to your desired length, then add cork/Eva (whatever your preference is) to hide the splice and give it a fighting butt/Spey rod look.

That said, I don’t have much experience and there’s far better builders out there so others might have a different approach. I’ve only built around 18 rods (8 bass, 3 trout, 4 ice, 2 fly and currently have another fly rod on the wrapper with 2 more bass rods in queue).
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 13, 2023, 05:55 PM
the  fly shack has  removable  but   ends   you may have  to  tinker a  bit
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jun 13, 2023, 08:32 PM
Sounds like fun RG, good luck with the adventure.
Ditto
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: myemmy on Jun 14, 2023, 11:27 AM
Thanks for the info think Iam going to give it a shot
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 14, 2023, 11:59 AM
If you need something custom I’d be glad to make it for you.

No charge to fellow fly fishers.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jun 14, 2023, 03:53 PM
If you need something custom I’d be glad to make it for you.

No charge to fellow fly fishers.
      A real gentleman there guys
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 14, 2023, 05:52 PM
You don’t know me very well……. :evil:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 15, 2023, 09:25 AM
Well, this morning I broke out my 9’6” Pfleuger Medalist 5 wt. it’s one of only two store bought fly rods I own.  Bought  it at Dick’s in Syracuse in the early 80’s. It was in a bargain barrel and I paid $19 for it. It’s an IM 6  blank. A bit on the heavy side compared to some of my others but it’s a super easy casting rod. I re-wrapped it a number of years ago, back when I was building rods. Can’t imagine how many fish have been caught on it. I think it’s my oldest rod.

It was pretty windy this morning out of the West. I tried my usual spot but quickly donated a fly to into the unknown. Decided it was too tight for that long rod. So I headed to the lock and wide open spaces. Tied on a Thunder Creek in olive and white. Lo and behold I started catching crappie. Ended up somewhere around 20 or so. Only a few were real keepers. Most were around 8” or so. All survived to bite another day.

A great start to a fun project. We’ll see what tomorrow brings.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jun 15, 2023, 11:15 AM
Thats awesome RG. Warm water stuff like crappie came eaiser when I was a kid than trout.  That took me back!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 15, 2023, 12:06 PM
Well I don’t wade the streams too much any more. My knees don’t like it. They’re getting old I guess. Never really was a trout fisher anyway. Mostly went looking for smallmouth.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jun 15, 2023, 03:06 PM
Sounds like a good morning to me Bob..👍👍👍
 Better than my day. But now I’m off till Tuesday…🎉🍺🤣✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 15, 2023, 03:18 PM
Yeah, I’ll be thinking about it while I’m mowing tees in the rain tomorrow morning. A day to love my rain suit.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 15, 2023, 05:54 PM
i like them all !!!!  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 16, 2023, 11:25 AM
Fished a bit after work this morning. Used my little spinning rod. Caught a few crappies and gills. Scratched the itch any way…even though it was raining.

I’ll be back out with a fly rod tomorrow. Might take the 10’ 6 wt this time and toss some bigger bass flies.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jun 16, 2023, 12:16 PM
Good luck with the 6 wt. I just acquired a Battenkill reel with 3wt. line on it, so light I can't believe it. I am going to use it with my 3wt. bamboo 6.5 ft. rod Sat. early for some brown trout tossing small dry flies, like griffith's gnat, BWO,  little sulfur, and caddis size 16 and smaller. Getting in practice for the tricos;can't wait.In around 3weeks or less.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 16, 2023, 12:45 PM
The boo is the last rod I’ll fish. South Bend #59.  A lot of love there. I actually have 2. One is a salmon rod gifted to me that I just can’t bring myself to fish. A dying friend gave it to me. I would have preferred it stayed with his family but he said none of them would understand. It was his Grandfather’s. It’s an H. Leonard 10’ 3 piece. Probably a 9 wt. Heavy as sin. He said they’d just sell it.

I really should put a line on it and go catch a carp in his memory.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jun 16, 2023, 12:53 PM
Good luck with the 6 wt. I just acquired a Battenkill reel with 3wt. line on it, so light I can't believe it. I am going to use it with my 3wt. bamboo 6.5 ft. rod Sat. early for some brown trout tossing small dry flies, like griffith's gnat, BWO,  little sulfur, and caddis size 16 and smaller. Getting in practice for the tricos;can't wait.In around 3weeks or less.

Trico season elludes me....
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: myemmy on Jun 16, 2023, 01:04 PM
shopping a little for butt extensions the mud hole has some nice ones.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 16, 2023, 01:21 PM
I quit dealing with mud hole when I ordered $5 worth of line guides and it cost $12 to ship it. Try Janns Netcraft.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: SeanP on Jun 16, 2023, 01:38 PM
I use to buy from Hook and Hackle Company in the past with good results...

SeanP
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 16, 2023, 01:44 PM
Fly Shack has them as well. My go to store.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jun 16, 2023, 03:08 PM
I keep making a mess in my line on top of my strike indicator. (The little football type) Will a braided leader indicator reduce some of that ?  I just bought some of those adhesive dots, but I think the results will be the same,
  I know I'm not a great caster yet, just trying to bet some of the issues.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jun 16, 2023, 03:22 PM
I use to use the strike indicator putty but  but have learned to fish without an indicator with improved results. You might try the putty if it still is available since you can control the size of the indicator. It worked fine. Good luck.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 16, 2023, 04:09 PM
If you’re using the furled leader. Coat it with payette paste. It’ll float. The tippet can float or sink. Trick is to see the hit watching the for the line to move. It’s an experience thing I guess. At this point I can sort of sense when there’s a hit……or not. It’s not a science. It’s a feel. Different from seeing the rod tip jump using bait or the heavy feel of a bite casting a lure.

Sometimes the line just stops moving as you retrieve it. Other times they smash it.

Give it time. Take your time. Don’t set it too fast. Just lift the rod or  It’ll end up hooking your ear or tangled around the rod and you.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jun 16, 2023, 04:26 PM
Haven't hooked my ear yet
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 16, 2023, 04:34 PM
I usually wear a big straw hat.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jun 16, 2023, 06:26 PM
I keep making a mess in my line on top of my strike indicator. (The little football type) Will a braided leader indicator reduce some of that ?  I just bought some of those adhesive dots, but I think the results will be the same,
  I know I'm not a great caster yet, just trying to bet some of the issues.

An airlock indicator may help.  The adhesive indicators are kinda a pain and leave adhesive on your leader.

Floating the sighter or in this case a furled leader is a good idea, especially in shallow water where the splat of an indicator will spook fish. 

When I was a kid id practice my cast in the yard.  Just fly line, leader, no fly.  Might be worth giving that a shot with an indicator on. 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 16, 2023, 08:52 PM
We keep on learning  as we go..
That’s fly fishing
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 17, 2023, 09:12 AM
Struggled a bit with my 10’ 6 wt this morning. Haven’t tossed a fly with it in a while. A whole different a rhythm than most of my other rods. Conditions weren’t too favorable either. Water was pretty riled from all the rain we’ve had. Anyway, I got skunked on the fly rod.found some fish jigging though.

Think tomorrow’s rod is going to be a TFO Axiom 9’ 5 wt that I built  in 2012. It’s a nice rod. A bit on the stiff side. But I usually put a 6 wt line on it to compensate.

The journey continues.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 17, 2023, 12:46 PM
your  leader  should  roll not tangle  on your strike indc.  my sugestion is cast somewhere you can have  someone  video you and  watch your self  after  you'll see your weak spots and  you'll  fix them  ....this  works shooting  bow  and  golfing too
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 17, 2023, 01:30 PM
Ain’t nobody gonna video my golf swing. Not ever!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 17, 2023, 02:13 PM
 :rotflol:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jun 17, 2023, 05:45 PM
going to give it a go tomorrow. It's against my better judgment going on a Sunday, but maybe the clouds will keep a few in the backyards tending the BBQ
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jun 17, 2023, 07:23 PM
fished with the 3 wt. bamboo rod equipped with the 3WT. battenkill reel today for a couple of hours.Despite low and slow  water  managed to get 4 brownies with small griffith's gnat. The combo sure works nice,light as a feather. Got a hit on a 22 trico, which I tired  for fun. Not many rising fish nor bugs in the air; also lacking fishermen which I loved! The heron seemed frustrated too. Got hits on a sulfur and caddis size 16. Should have gone smaller . right now using 6X tippet on an 8 ft. leader. Nice day to be out but too sunny for me.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 18, 2023, 08:31 AM
No luck on the fly rod this morning. By the time I got done mowing the fish were deep. Got a couple crappie and a pike on jigs. That fly rod will stay in the car for a bit.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on Jun 18, 2023, 09:16 AM
Keep the fly rod reports coming, enjoying the reads.

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 18, 2023, 12:18 PM
Will do. The adventure continues.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jun 18, 2023, 07:46 PM
Will do. The adventure continues.
   Yes it does   Try try as I may, I can't catch a break with this damned wind. Did my usual this morning chasing wally for the first couple hrs. By the time I headed for the gills, here it comes again. I made my best attempt but as you said rg, they went deep and the wind was too much. So I went to the jigs and got a bucket of fish then went to a small, sheltered bay where I wouldn't expect to catch much but got some practice with my swing (if that's what you call it). I think I learned to concentrate on the wrist instead of swinging like I'm playing badminton. Actually managed to send out a few decent looking casts.
  Here's the best part:  After securing my limit of gills, I felt like playing with them a bit and experimenting with different stuff. I caught as many as 20 gills on a piece of rubber band 1 1/2" long stabbed onto a jig. Talk about cheap bait! Now I'm going to stock an assortment of weights and colors of rubber bands. :cookoo:

   Thinking about a 9' rod in place of my 7'  Am I rushing it or should I develop some skills first with what I have. I noticed the Fly Shack has a fairly nice rod (Their own brand) for a buck and a half.  Got busy on the lake today.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jun 18, 2023, 08:13 PM
Go for the 9 ft. rod.  It will allow you to cast easier and get longer casting  distances then with the shorter rod.  As your casting  technique improves you will see the improvement in addition.   You can also try a roll cast  which you can add to your arsenal when in tight places. Good luck and just keep at it!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 18, 2023, 08:20 PM
9’ is pretty much a standard. They’ll most likely let you test cast it  and maybe even help you out a bit.

And ….there is no wrist in fly casting. Watch some Joan Wolff casting videos.
https://vimeo.com/70577574 (https://vimeo.com/70577574)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jun 19, 2023, 02:26 PM
I stand corrected    Poor choice of words rg, I guess I knew that , just said it wrong  I watched that little lady. she certainly makes it all look so graceful and simple.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 19, 2023, 03:46 PM
It is….sometimes. We all get too quick. Especially on the back cast. That’s the real key is feeling the rod load with the weight of the line….then forward.

You have to remember she was a world champion distance caster. We’ll  never get there. Mostly just go have fun and don’t think about it too much.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: ECobb91 on Jun 19, 2023, 06:32 PM
Ended up hitting a local stream with my dad for a few hours this morning. Didn’t land any on flies and was a very tough/odd bite. Saw a few fish rise after a small hatch but couldn’t get any interest on dries. Switched to a nymph, then double nymph, then dry dropper, and finishes with a small size 8 streamer. Had two hits on the dry dropper and a couple roll on the streamer.

We switched to our spinning rods and caught a couple trout each. Lost one that was pushing 16-18 in the same run that i threw the streamer for about a half hour in.

Just wasn’t our day to use flies but It was still fun to get out and chase some trout w
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 20, 2023, 04:34 AM
sorry RG you are dead wrong there is wrist  usage in fly  casting  ...

the  new encounter  rod and reel  from orvis is  a great  deal  ...  you can  own a orvis  rod reel  ready to  fish  for under  200  bucks  ....i  personally would  go with a  9  ft  5 weight  .....
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+cast+a+fly+rod+youtube&oq=how+to+cast+a++fly+rod&aqs=chrome.2.0i512l10.15265j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#kpvalbx=_kG-RZK71G8eIptQPisqO0Ak_30 (https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+cast+a+fly+rod+youtube&oq=how+to+cast+a++fly+rod&aqs=chrome.2.0i512l10.15265j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#kpvalbx=_kG-RZK71G8eIptQPisqO0Ak_30)

don't try  to get distance  or fight wind until you get a basic  cast down ......a longer rod is a must at least a 8 1/2  but a  9  would  be  perfect  ........ 

i do  reccommend the orvis  rod  i  don't preach   companys  but i  bought one  for  my  granddaughter  and  was  very impressed with it ....  it is a  great  combo  but i wouldn't call it a  beginners  rod  ...check it out .......again   i  have  everyone i help cast  film themselves  you can  compair what you  are  doing to any instructional video   and  correct your  mistakes  fast  ....most you don't even see .... if you have a  good  fly shop  ask if   anyone  would  be  willing to step out side and  maybe  give you  some   hants on pointers  most fly  shops   are  more then willing .......
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jun 20, 2023, 09:34 AM
This is good stuff trapp,  lots of good info here   BTW  do not let me start contest of instruction for beginners between you and rg as I value any and all help I can get here. You guys have been GREAT!   :thumbup_smilie:
         Just got done weeding the garden so I'm done in for today. Will take another stab at it this week.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 20, 2023, 10:41 AM
Not arguing the point but watch  this Lefty Kregh lesson….all of it.

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en-us&q=lefty+kreh&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi18pPIlNL_AhUUmokEHb2mDiAQ0pQJegQIChAB&biw=1224&bih=813&dpr=2#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:ab6955f4,vid:57Ux1pqzUKQ (https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en-us&q=lefty+kreh&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi18pPIlNL_AhUUmokEHb2mDiAQ0pQJegQIChAB&biw=1224&bih=813&dpr=2#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:ab6955f4,vid:57Ux1pqzUKQ)

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jun 20, 2023, 12:38 PM
Just when I thought I had learned something.....Now I gotta start all over    Jeepers !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 20, 2023, 12:50 PM
Yeah, Lefty’s  teaching was kind of confusing like watching Moe Norman teach the golf swing. But, I think he’s more about fishing than casting. Real situations.  I gave you Joan’s  lesson because it taught a very basic, traditional and functional vertical cast. Something you should master.

Once you’ve got the feel of that you can move on.

Personally, I use my body not my elbow and wrist, as he teaches. It makes sense. I find it way more comfortable. I pretty much lock that wrist. Whenever I get “wristy” the line does exactly what he says. Big old loops, lost accuracy and distance.

But that’s just me. Maybe something else will work for you.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jun 20, 2023, 01:11 PM
Back to the drawing board     Now I'm going to practice tyeing some knots   Don't get me confused!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 20, 2023, 01:27 PM
Only 2 I use for fly fishing. Trilene and Improved Clinch. I can pretty much tie them in the dark. Good thing cause any more tippet looks like hair to me,
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 20, 2023, 01:45 PM
i  met  Lefty Kregh at  a seminar  on long island  years  ago  ...i have to  be  honest   i am  not a  fan  , lefty is a  busness man ,he's  a good caster  ,unfortunately lefty decided to  taylor his instructionals around  his  busness interest  and  endorcements , i  would  dare  say ,i  would  rather  go to a  RG seminar anyday  where the  only interest is to help  people  become  better  fly  fisherman  and  not  selling your products or  selling  class time ......again opinion .......

i  stand  by the  best thing one  can  do  is  film yourself   casting   you will see your mistakes and short comings  and  fix them !  it works  !   15  minutes  with a  caster  to  help you  with  basics  ...and  a   longer rod  and  my bet is you would  be   a  decent  caster  in  no  time  you have the heart and  desire  you  need a  few  tools  and  you  will be  fine ......by the  way i  do  not cast  over head  my  arm is  out  to the  right  my cast  is  basic   and yours will be  too 99% of the  time  we are  not on  a  ocean beach  casting   long  distance   your  in a stream  for a  trout  or  a  backwash  for a  blue  gill  work on  accuracy and  the  line  landing  soft on the  water....get the  basics  and it will all  come to you  ;D 


Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jun 20, 2023, 02:46 PM
I am a self taught fly caster and people chuckle when they see me in action; regardless I catch fish! Even if you cannot cast perfectly you can always put the fly upstream  (or downstream and let out line)and let it drift over fish as  long as it  looks  like a natural bait, (no drag or wake) and you will have hits! More important is line management, reading water, and fly presentation.  Since I dry fly fish 90% of the time I always use  dry fly dressing  on my fly AND the entire leader regardless of length,only a drop will do.  Additionally I like to twitch my fly; most insects on the water are not dead but move, and third I many times  like to retrieve my fly in the water using a slow stripping motion to  invoke a strike instead of lifting the fly directly off the water.
Even when traditionally  nymphing I retrieve my fly with a slow retrieve before casting again. I have learned to fish without an indicator allowing more flexability in fly placement. I catch more fish. Yesterday  an early start resulted in landing 14 brownies some 12-14 inches. Returned to catch again! JUST HAVE FUN.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 20, 2023, 03:08 PM
Well I appreciate that Rick. Kind of like a golf swing. Take what you have to the stream and go fishing. We’re not going for records. Just a few fish and some relaxing time away from it all.

Regardless of what casting abilities I have any particular day, I always get lost and enjoy every second.

Next we have to get him hooked on fly tying……so to speak.

Poor guy. Makes me feel like a classic enabler.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 20, 2023, 03:49 PM
RG I'm serious you would be a better instructor  because you would want people to fish better not make money your a better sportsman and a better human being then lefty  again my opinion ........ Oat I twitch dry flies all the time and that's usually when the fun begins..... My bad habits are self taught lol but  I learned watched asked questions  and it all comes I don't use my body much cause I don't want to spook fish my arm can load that rod just fine ...... At a point we all get stuck in our ways well my ways might not be the same as yours but as long as we catch fish it doesn't matter .....

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 20, 2023, 04:23 PM
Yeah…jiggling dries and foam is always fun. I don’t mess with trout much. But,  the warm water fish love it…so do I.

Ain’t fly fishing’ fun?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 20, 2023, 04:53 PM
trout love  foam too
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jun 20, 2023, 06:43 PM
Now that summer is here don't forget those hungry trout love, ants, red and black, grasshoppers, beetles, and bumble bees. Have caught trout on them all with the bumble bee being the most shocking in that it worked! :o :o
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jun 20, 2023, 07:53 PM
Now I have to tie flies?  OMG What have I gotten into    I think for now I'll concentrate on landing one where I want it in a respectable fashion  Hopefully the summer is long enough. That 9 footer is starting to knag on me- I think it's coming.

  Just curios, from how deep could I expect to be able to draw a gill to a foam surface fly?  I'm catching most of my fish in 10-15 fow and they seem to mostly be hugging the bottom. Recently with the wind torturing me I have been jigging a lot. I'm not getting any respectable fish shallow.

    Any body's $.02 is welcome here
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 21, 2023, 03:29 AM
Mostly I find surface stuff works best at first light this time of year. Fish will go shallow at night to feed. As that bright sunshine comes up they seem to go deep or head for shaded  cover.  For gills I usually do better with sub surface flies.

You don’t “have” to tie flies…..but you will……eventually.

Time to go make the grass shorter at the golf course. Love working there in the early morning. It’s a beautiful place.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jun 21, 2023, 06:48 AM
Now that summer is here don't forget those hungry trout love, ants, red and black, grasshoppers, beetles, and bumble bees. Have caught trout on them all with the bumble bee being the most shocking in that it worked! :o :o

Its big mouse time and thats my favorite. 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: ECobb91 on Jun 21, 2023, 07:21 AM
Always thought about throwing big mice flies in the evening/night. But I usually shy away from the trout streams from July to mid September just to avoid stressing the fish out when the waters hot and low.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jun 21, 2023, 12:18 PM
Great idea not to fish warm water for trout; anything above 70 deg. is not healthy for trout; even a quick release can be fatal. Today the water was 60 deg. and got 9 on olive wood duck winged  caddis, p-black gnat and p-Adams sizes 16-18 10 ft. 6X leader fishing shady, moving water. Saw a few sulfurs  and very few rsing fish today starting at 6AM. I don't tie, too busy fishing! :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 21, 2023, 01:16 PM
Plenty of time to tie spring and fall. And, almost less expensive.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jun 21, 2023, 01:29 PM
Great idea not to fish warm water for trout; anything above 70 deg. is not healthy for trout; even a quick release can be fatal. Today the water was 60 deg. and got 9 on olive wood duck winged  caddis, p-black gnat and p-Adams sizes 16-18 10 ft. 6X leader fishing shady, moving water. Saw a few sulfurs  and very few rsing fish today starting at 6AM. I don't tie, too busy fishing! :laugh: :laugh:

Every release can be fatal if we are being honest. I fish a bottom release tailwater so I hope no one calls PETA on me...that water is cold.  Also its unlikely anyone will see a 70 degree temp at night on any of the rivers I mouse.  That temp is lethal to bows and top of the range for browns so someone catching and releasing them would be the least of anyones concerns.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jun 22, 2023, 04:06 PM
Saw the skunk today    I finally had the day to wish for - Nice and calm almost dead this morning and a slight variable breeze after 10 am Not much traffic - I should have caught fish. I think.   I tried floaters, sinkers, and every thing in between - all colors - even switched lines from floating to sinking and then back again. Got one big gill to inhale a green foam floater from the vise of trapper and that was it.
  I wanted a fish dinner so I switched to the jigs and limited in 2 hrs.  They're there, they will eat , I just can't seem to make it work.  Grrrrr
      And the rubber bands worked again today    go figure
      Also got a 34" pike trolling  going to try to fillet this thing
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jun 29, 2023, 04:05 PM
Got a few today   Started at dawn with the surface stuff and only got one small one  They didn't want to come up. I moved about and found a few in 8 fow so I put on my sinking line  found them to be very sluggish and stubborn. Had to fish very slow to get some bites but ended up getting 8 keepers out of about 15? Also had two fish bite me off which ended the run on a very good fly. It was getting beat-up as I had been using it since I started in the spring. d**n
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          The three that worked today
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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 29, 2023, 04:08 PM
That middle one ( I call the martini) is a killer.

Glad, you had fun.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jun 29, 2023, 04:13 PM
They liked it. I think some of the bigger ones came on it
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 30, 2023, 12:16 PM
Stupid simple pattern that just works.

You need a vise and some materials.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jul 03, 2023, 03:10 PM
    Took a look at tools and materials on fly shack site.  This can get out of control !  Might make a fun winter project though
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 03, 2023, 03:57 PM
We’ll help you along.

Seriously, it’s part of the journey.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jul 03, 2023, 06:02 PM
I'll be looking for advise that's for sure    Hope you don't get sick of me
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jul 03, 2023, 06:12 PM
Hey Taxid have we heard about your trip west?  did I miss it?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 03, 2023, 08:53 PM
I'll be looking for advise that's for sure    Hope you don't get sick of me
Tying flies is an art form I think. Much like fly fishing. We all start with the basics. We struggle and learn and eventually get free of the constraints that come with acquiring a new skill. We get better at it.

I get lost on the water with a fly rod in my hand..I get lost at the bench tying flies. It’s a wonderful thing to let life’s necessities melt away for a while and just do something enjoyable. I’ve always taken time to get lost. Be it a long morning walk, time tinkering in the “little wood shop” , fishing or tying flies.

Life is too short to not take time to enjoy it.

Oye! I wax philosophical !
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jul 03, 2023, 09:24 PM
I got lost today Rg.  Nice calm morning, crystal clear water.  No one in site.  The miles came almost as easily as the trout. All were modest but it didnt matter.  One of those mornings where you dont mind leaving mid-day. 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jul 04, 2023, 03:59 PM
Learned a lot today without leaving the farm.  Decided to sleep in this morning as I'm not real fond of this sticky weather so I've spent most of today going WAYYY back thru past threads. I'm trying to absorb as much info as possible on as many subjects as possible. Flies, rods, tying tools, procedures etc., etc. There's a lot of good stuff here. Thanks to all.
  Sorry about the flood and loosing all your stuff RG. That must have hurt. If I stay put for about a week I may get myself up to modern day.

 I may try to sneak out for an evening soon. I usually fish mornings so this will be something different.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 04, 2023, 04:52 PM
Man…that was a long time ago. I’d forgotten all about it.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on Jul 04, 2023, 05:39 PM
Tying flies is an art form I think. Much like fly fishing. We all start with the basics. We struggle and learn and eventually get free of the constraints that come with acquiring a new skill. We get better at it.

I get lost on the water with a fly rod in my hand..I get lost at the bench tying flies. It’s a wonderful thing to let life’s necessities melt away for a while and just do something enjoyable. I’ve always taken time to get lost. Be it a long morning walk, time tinkering in the “little wood shop” , fishing or tying flies.

Life is too short to not take time to enjoy it.

Oye! I wax philosophical !

Well stated, actually was back at the vise the other day when it was pouring outside. Felt good creating again.

Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jul 04, 2023, 07:46 PM
Man…that was a long time ago. I’d forgotten all about it.

    There's a lot of stuff on here   ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 04, 2023, 08:42 PM
Yeah..there’s a lot of stuff in my “fishing room” . More than I care to admit.

Oh well….an old man’s comfort o guess. I’m happy with it.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jul 06, 2023, 10:07 AM
Taking a ride to the Fly Shack today
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 06, 2023, 11:42 AM
My go to supplier for hooks, thread and stuff. Great service from them.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jul 06, 2023, 06:39 PM
There's a 9' Beacon in a 5 wt in the boat waiting for a decent morning. Not the fanciest rod by some's standards but I think it will be a step up. Had a long visit with the shop keeper today and may have garnered some useful info. I love how everyone is willing to help.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 06, 2023, 07:06 PM
It’s a collective effort enjoyed by passing it along.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jul 13, 2023, 07:11 PM
That 9'er is a WHOLE different animal.  Another learning experience yesterday for sure. Did ok, found some errors in technique that show up more with the longer rod. Now back to the drawing board.  Didn't catch much but had an interesting day working with it. Tried several flies but to no avail. When the old, battered body got tired I broke out the ultra light and caught a few gills and some really nice crappie on jigs for dinner.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 14, 2023, 11:27 AM
Yup. Need to slow down a bit. Try to keep that 10-2 cast for a while. You’re in a boat so you can do a very basic vertical cast. It’ll teach you to feel the line loading up front and back and let you get some rhythm and timing.

You can get creative later. The back yard ( which you seem to have plenty of) is a great place to work out the kinks.

That rod is probably a lot quicker action than you’re used to. Meaning it’s a stiffer flex. Can take some getting used to. Took me a while and I still prefer an IM -6 blank for its slower action. Way easier to cast for the most part. But, when you’re bucking wind or need to shoot a bullet cast, the faster rods are the ticket. And you can learn to cast them slow….after a while.

Wish you were closer. I’d let you try one of my bamboo rods. Talk about slow….and they’re a workout.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jul 14, 2023, 11:37 AM
Very fast action indeed. I was a little surprised ....  Does if this makes sense? :   I felt myself casting in an upward motion and the line shot like a bullet for 30 ' then just stopped and the remainder of line, leader and fly just landed in a heap.  So I made an effort to cast horizontally ( even with the water surface ) and found myself making a much better cast.   
   You are definably right rg, I found I had to slow down  tough for a guy like me
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jul 14, 2023, 12:12 PM
You  can also use a roll cast  which I use alot especially with trees behind me! You'll master it quickly, I am convinced. I also use a  cross the chest cast   as well a a horizontal cast along with the traditional over the shoulder conventional cast. Whatever your happy with and as long as your catching fish you are GOLD! Just have fun.   Tricos around now so get out your magnifier glasses and try to master that hatch. Another challenge for your" to do" list.  Dick
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jul 14, 2023, 12:18 PM
LOL  that's just what I need !  another challenge     Thanks oat, will give it a try
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jul 14, 2023, 01:19 PM
LOL  that's just what I need !  another challenge     Thanks oat, will give it a try

I dont know that we will have much of a trico season with all of the high water. 
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jul 14, 2023, 01:49 PM
We have had no high water here since May15!!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on Jul 14, 2023, 08:01 PM
Lucky you, my local rivers are a mess but I've been hitting the ocean lately which can handle these daily downpours a bit better.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 15, 2023, 11:36 AM
Very fast action indeed. I was a little surprised ....  Does if this makes sense? :   I felt myself casting in an upward motion and the line shot like a bullet for 30 ' then just stopped and the remainder of line, leader and fly just landed in a heap.  So I made an effort to cast horizontally ( even with the water surface ) and found myself making a much better cast.   
   You are definably right rg, I found I had to slow down  tough for a guy like me

Every rod has its own rhythm. I have quite a few fly rods. They’re all different in one way or another and still, the same. In time you won’t think about how you’re casting, just where and how you want to land a fly. I get sloppy sometimes. Mostly because I fish a lot for gills and crappie. They’re not particularly fussy about how a fly lands on the water. Sometimes the more the disturbance the better.
 
I’m usually thinking more about my target than my cast. But most times I just like the feel of nice loops and a soft landing fly.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jul 15, 2023, 05:31 PM
Tried casting a tiny popper for a while. got a bunch of line twist in my tippet so much that I cut it off and changed it. Is this typical ?
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 15, 2023, 05:38 PM
Not really.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jul 15, 2023, 09:11 PM
Line will twist more readily if you are casting  bigger flies and also as a function of the cast itself. Try to finish the cast with the line tight to the reel  to minimize the twist.   I  get wind knots as well  and do get twisting after awhile and so changing the tippet or leader end  is prudent.
Even after catching a number of fish on the same fly, I retie it to avoid  it's loss.  It is only the good flies you lose!  Good luck
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 16, 2023, 03:14 AM
When I’m tossing poppers or any surface flies for that matter, I generally use a straight piece of 3 or 4x not more than 4’-6’ long. I don’t notice any line twist but I do get a wind knot or 2 every once in a while when my casting isn’t so good. I’m sure it’s different fishing for trout in moving water.

You’re right about only losing the good flies.that’s why I always tie at least 6 of a pattern and only take 5 with me. Sometimes it’s hard to remember just how you tied that new pattern you’re working on. It’s good to have one in storage for reference.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Jul 16, 2023, 10:13 AM
as always,  good stuff here    thanks guys
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jul 18, 2023, 03:58 PM
We have had no high water here since May15!!

Where is here?  Not that I want to endulge in my least favorite hatch...but the lack fly fishing for trout here is enough to take a ride.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Jul 18, 2023, 04:26 PM
western and central NY
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Sep 22, 2023, 07:23 AM
Got a few yesterday. With the summer heat behind us I've got a little itch again. Going to have to squeeze in a few more days during deer season. Ended up with 7 gills, 4 perch,1 rocky, and one very angry largemouth who had me stuck in the weeds twice!  Looking forward to next spring when they're in the shallows again.

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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on Sep 22, 2023, 07:52 AM
Wat to go, nice haul. Is that a Fenwick glass rod? The first flyrod I purchased was a Fenwick fiberglass.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Sep 22, 2023, 09:44 AM
It is !  It's an oldie that I acquired in the early 70's by trading an old car to my cousin. He got the short end on that deal.  ;D
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 22, 2023, 02:34 PM
And an old South bend finalist reel I’d guess.i have a few…..and a Fenglas fly rod.

Sweet setup!
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Sep 22, 2023, 04:35 PM
Hello rg!  I hope you're getting a chance to wet a line between all that mowing. I've been in dry dock since early July as the heat was more than I wanted. Now maybe I can get a few nice days in before deer season consumes my time. That sweet old reel is a Pfluegar Medalist that was on the rod when I got it. I actually found another one on ebay this summer that I bought just to have an extra spool. Now I can switch from a floating to a sinking line while on the water. Works for me. I did purchase a 9ft rod earlier with a low budget reel but have used it very little since it got warm.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Sep 23, 2023, 04:22 AM
Now that I look closer I see it is a medalist. Never seen one with a red spool. I’ve got a couple, one of which was my first fly reel. It stays on the shelf for the most part.

I’m gonna take the 2 wt  fly rod out in a bit (when it gets light) and harass some blue gills.  Might take its mate, a spinning rod I made from one of the two blanks I bought a number of years ago. Those two little rods are a hoot to fish with. I’ll have to take my big pruners with me to clear away some of the brush that grew up in my favorite spot over the summer. Otherwise it’ll be tangle city.

Things are slowing down at the course, but the grass doesn’t know that. We’ll be mowing into November most likely. We have bent grass tees, fairways, approaches and greens. The bent gets pretty sleepy this time of year, but the Kentucky Blue rough is going crazy. Takes 2 full time guys to keep it under control. .
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Sep 25, 2023, 07:18 PM
rg that's my fly line that you're looking at that makes the spool appear red. It's actually black and the orange line shows thru the holes
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Buckski on Oct 06, 2023, 08:08 AM
Now that I look closer I see it is a medalist. Never seen one with a red spool. I’ve got a couple, one of which was my first fly reel. It stays on the shelf for the most part.

I’m gonna take the 2 wt  fly rod out in a bit (when it gets light) and harass some blue gills.  Might take its mate, a spinning rod I made from one of the two blanks I bought a number of years ago. Those two little rods are a hoot to fish with. I’ll have to take my big pruners with me to clear away some of the brush that grew up in my favorite spot over the summer. Otherwise it’ll be tangle city.

Things are slowing down at the course, but the grass doesn’t know that. We’ll be mowing into November most likely. We have bent grass tees, fairways, approaches and greens. The bent gets pretty sleepy this time of year, but the Kentucky Blue rough is going crazy. Takes 2 full time guys to keep it under control. .

RG is the grass code for something else? Wookie? I hear ya on getting the fly rod out, gonna my st. croix 8wt out next week for ontario fish. I made a 9wt Northfork/Loomis and love it, but over kill on the fall run fish in my view.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Mac Attack on Oct 06, 2023, 10:10 AM
RG is the grass code for something else? Wookie? I hear ya on getting the fly rod out, gonna my st. croix 8wt out next week for ontario fish. I made a 9wt Northfork/Loomis and love it, but over kill on the fall run fish in my view.


Bob mows lawns at a local golf course Rich.
However, he is an old hippie.
Sooooo......................................

 ;)
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: ECobb91 on Oct 06, 2023, 07:04 PM
RG is the grass code for something else? Wookie? I hear ya on getting the fly rod out, gonna my st. croix 8wt out next week for ontario fish. I made a 9wt Northfork/Loomis and love it, but over kill on the fall run fish in my view.

I made my cousin a 10’ 9wt Rainshadow Revelation for the Salmon River and it’s a pretty soft 9wt. Feels more like an 8 but has a great power in the butt section. Might be something worth checking out if you’re wanting a lesser powered rod.

If you like the St Croix, RodGeeks C4 (SCIV) blanks are great. I built a 4wt for my dad and paired it with a Lamson Liquid/SA Amplitude Infinity. Smoothest casting fly rod I’ve ever felt. A few guys on another forum have mentioned their C4 builds impressed Sage and Winston users regularly.

I built myself an NFC F904-2 and paired it with a cheeky preload. It’s a fantastic rod but there’s definitely a difference between the two in favor of the RodGeeks. Now it could be the line, and the rod just prefers a 1/2wt heavier, but I digress.

I used to be a St Croix fanboy, and once I started building my own I’m becoming more of a NFC fan, but that C4 fly blank is something special especially for $100.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 06, 2023, 10:04 PM
Well, I’m not really an “old hippie” as Mac suggests. But I do work as a greenskeeper at a local golf course. I mow tees, approaches, collars and greens. I enjoy it more than I can express.

I’ve built all my fly rods but 2. 2 wt to 10 wt, and countless others. I still prefer an IM6 blank to any of the others. They’re forgiving, powerful enough and durable. Match a line to your casting ability and it’s a great setup. Reels don’t really matter in most cases. They’re just line holders and ego boosters. for the most part.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: ECobb91 on Oct 07, 2023, 09:03 AM
Ya I agree, for the size of the fish we catch, reels are just glorified line holders.  I was just attempting to say that better line could probably help make my NFC perform better so it’s not a true comparison between the two
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: rgfixit on Oct 07, 2023, 06:00 PM
It’s all about the match isn’t it?
Can’t throw a rock with a feather I guess.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Mac Attack on Oct 07, 2023, 06:34 PM
I bought everything to build the flyrod.
Even the reel.
(Bob - you helped me with the choice on wt, etc.)
Just have not built the rod yet.
After the new year.
I'm having my shed lengthened (2X).
This will give me badly needed shelves for storage, but also allow me to build a decent length workbench.
This longer workbench will give me room for my rod lathe.
I actually have a few different rods that need building.
Soon.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Mar 27, 2024, 12:34 PM
time to get this thread back where it belongs:       I'm looking for different opinions about strike indicators
        Are they necessary?   too much hassle ?   do you have a favorite ?

      I tried the wool/yarn type and didn't care to deal with it    Tried the foam bobber type it was ok, it did the job    I'm thinking of the braided Czeck type but will they be too much stuff to create a birds nest for a novice fly caster ? 

                           Any suggestions appreciated   62
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Mar 27, 2024, 02:16 PM
With regard to strike indicators, I started and stayed with indicator putty which I found worked quite well. BUT  I met a guy who outfished me 3:1 who taught me to fish without an indicator. Now I never use an indicator and find that with some practice you can catch and out fish those who use the indicator. The limits to any indicator are obvious, it limits  or dictates the drift of the fly, it  hampers and condenses the depth of the  fly, it travels at a speed different than the fly, and it restricts the action you can impart to the fly to make it look more natural. Plus you will never have the problem of moving an indicator or buying that stuff! It also makes you pay more attention to your fishing and allows you develop the skills of  presentation and bite detection. That alone increases your enjoyment of fly fishing!  Good luck and let us know how you make out.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: 62 & Done on Mar 27, 2024, 02:33 PM
Thanks Oatkasut I have to agree with it all, I think half my problems last summer started with the float indicator.

      would love to hear from others
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 27, 2024, 03:33 PM
i do both ,at times i usee a  floating  strike  indicator at others i  don't  but in honesty  when i don't have a   indicator on i'm watching that leader   on the drift  just like it was ......do i think there is a better  way ..... what ever  you feel works best ....short line  nymphing  probablly makes no  difference  if you can  see your leader . if you  fishing deep with a sinking tip you better be able to  read a  hit  without one  .....  thats all part of the  fun
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: lowaccord66 on Mar 27, 2024, 06:39 PM
I like being in contact with the flies (I normally fish 2) at all times.  My indiactor is bi-colored leader material.  I keep an eye on that during the drift.  Helps determine if the flies are getting down too.  If its moving as fast as the surface current I know my flies arent penetrating.  If its moving slower than the surface current I know Im in the zone. 

I do use indicators occasionally, when its windy or if I am fishing at a distance.  Ive played with the yarn indicators, those were fun.  What I got addicted to is fishing dry dropper.  Epecially around August/September.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Bartman44 on Mar 28, 2024, 09:11 AM
As others have stated, indicators are situational. If I'm fishing flat runs in less than knee deep water, not needed most of the time, I like a short line.  If fishing in variable currents or deeper, I'll use them. I've tried the OROS indicators (small and extra small) and I like them alot because they are so easy to adjust up and down and even better, they are very easy to add/remove as I jump from spot to spot.

As Jon said, I use dry droppers quite a bit. Hang a nymph just behind your dry fly during a hatch and you can score on the nymph as well as the dry. You can also fish very shallow riffles with a dry dropper as the dry is less likely to spook a shallow fish.
     
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Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: oatkasut on Mar 28, 2024, 09:47 AM
All true Bart!
I took my brothers advise and tried the dry dropper using his tie a dry Mr. Rapidan size 14, a great indicator fly to which I suspended a pheasant tail nymph size 16 using about 12- 18 inches of 6X tippet. Attached to the dry on the hook bend   with a clinch knot. I found that the nymph out caught the dry  in a ratio of 4:1. It's always exciting when your indicator catches fish! I  don't use this rig much because I don't like to spend the time to rig up or casting it, , but it sure can help to catch more fish.
Title: Re: old f--ts with flyrods
Post by: Buckski on Mar 28, 2024, 10:44 AM
The dropper will always catch more. Unless it truly a fly bonanza.

Try some small poppers on a 6wt or lighter. for bass. FUN  Still some time for that to develop.