old f--ts with flyrods

[WANNAKETCHUM]

Went 4 for 6 this morning. They liked the corn fly. The 2 I broke off were unstoppable . Two others I had to chase a pretty long ways. They're hot right now.

Rg

"Corn Fly"

WK

[rgfixit]

 
Rg

[bigredfishing]

very cool, RG!

[Gump]

I remember running thread through a phone book with the spool rolling around on my bench. I had a cardboard box for a rod rack

You mean there are other ways of doing it?   

Very cool !  In my travels for work I have been stopping by some local streams and have been seeing the carp tailing and working the bottom for I presume nymphs and crayfish.  Just have had no time to try...

[WANNAKETCHUM]

Hmmmm... some "corn yellow" glo bug yarn might be good. You could even dip that in the juice from the can of corn used for chum. 

WK

[WANNAKETCHUM]

What reel have you been using Rg??

WK

[rgfixit]

You mean there are other ways of doing it?   

Very cool !  In my travels for work I have been stopping by some local streams and have been seeing the carp tailing and working the bottom for I presume nymphs and crayfish.  Just have had no time to try...

Not necessarily. They will vacuum the bottom for vegetation and snails. But I suggest you toss a small handful of chick peas or corn or rabbit food in the area and see what they do. If they swarm it, you'll know what they're after. If not then things might just be as you think.

Rg

[rgfixit]

Hmmmm... some "corn yellow" glo bug yarn might be good. You could even dip that in the juice from the can of corn used for chum. 

WK

Now that's serious cheating

The little clouser heads with the detached foam kernel are killers. They land hook up because of the lead eye position and the little foam kernel. Twitch them across the bottom and hang on.

I've been using a 4/5 Okuma SLV on the little 7 wt., it seems to balance nicely. The line and leader setup is more important. I have to roll cast most of the time. The WF7F Cortland Sylk line has been terrific. I did go to a straight 2x leader. Knots just don't hold up well against these brutes.

Rg

[WANNAKETCHUM]

Now that's serious cheating :whistling:

The little clouser heads with the detached foam kernel are killers. They land hook up because of the lead eye position and the little foam kernel. Twitch them across the bottom and hang on.

I've been using a 4/5 Okuma SLV on the little 7 wt., it seems to balance nicely. The line and leader setup is more important. I have to roll cast most of the time. The WF7F Cortland Sylk line has been terrific. I did go to a straight 2x leader. Knots just don't hold up well against these brutes.

Rg

OK Rg,

So the Bass tourney boys must be cheating when they dip their baits in "smelly jelly" etc., LOL!! How do you secure the foam chunk (faux kernel) to the short piece of mono you have attached to the hook?

WK

[rgfixit]

The mono is 10 lb tippet material. Maxima I think. I tie a double overhand knot in the end, poke a hole through the foam kernel with a small needle, slide the mono through with the knot on top and put a small dab of Locktite super glue on the knot. Then pull the knot just in to the foam and let it set a few minutes. They usually come off during he fight, but it only takes a few minutes to make a dozen.

Notice that the mono is long enough to get the kernel beyond the hook gape. Very important for a good hookup. It's like a mini hair rig. Always gets them in the lip. Don't be afraid to set the hook on a bite

Also notice that the hook is an N-Curve hook. Also very important so the hook rides up off the bottom.

I've given this some thought and done a bit of experimentation. It's a silly looking fly, but it's pretty fine tuned.

Rg

[WANNAKETCHUM]

The mono is 10 lb tippet material. Maxima I think. I tie a double overhand knot in the end, poke a hole through the foam kernel with a small needle, slide the mono through with the knot on top and put a small dab of Locktite super glue on the knot. Then pull the knot just in to the foam and let it set a few minutes. They usually come off during he fight, but it only takes a few minutes to make a dozen.

Notice that the mono is long enough to get the kernel beyond the hook gape. Very important for a good hookup. It's like a mini hair rig. Always gets them in the lip. Don't be afraid to set the hook on a bite

Also notice that the hook is an N-Curve hook. Also very important so the hook rides up off the bottom.

I've given this some thought and done a bit of experimentation. It's a silly looking fly, but it's pretty fine tuned.

Rg

Thanks Rg,

Yea... I didn't figure there was much "rocket science" involved... pretty straightforward. I'm not familiar with the N-curve hook... any suggestions on a sub or is that pretty much what fits the bill? Also... you're probably using one of you're furled leaders and a length of 2X as tippet. Are they kinda line shy with regard to length of tippet?

WK

[rgfixit]

Nope...just straight 2x tippet. 7-10' They don't like the furled leaders in that shallow water. They spook easy. If they touch the line, they're gone.

I use hooks like the Tiemco 200R. Mine come from EBay.


I use a 3x long #10.

It rained 4.2" in 3 hours here yesterday. The stream is toast for a few days. Guess I'll break out the boat

Rg

[Gump]

After almost 3" of rain the other night, local streams were raging, but my work travels had me in the location of the headwaters of a trib of a trib....tiny water.  It is spring fed and cold enough to hold a wild population of browns and historically brookies (haven't found one yet...think the brownies have extirpated them) year round.  nobody would ever suspect it to have trout when viewed from the road.  Anyways, I found a dandy hiding under a watercress mat that struck the minute my fly hit the water.  I later lost a couple others.  Not bad for a 1/2 lunch break...

[rgfixit]

Now that's fun!

Way to keep your eyes open Gump

I plan to head down south this morning. Gonna check out a few spots on the Genny.

Rg

[trapper2000]

nice and great you hit it even when high ^5