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cnypanfisher

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Re: Inline Weights vs Bottom Bouncers
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2023, 06:11 AM »
Other than putting a drift sock out when you are trolling in good/hard winds. Any tips in how to keep straight, we are using A terrova to troll with. The drift sock works OK, but you zig zag a lot like you are avoiding U boats. Those fish go right for the drift sock too. 😂

skinny40

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Re: Inline Weights vs Bottom Bouncers
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2023, 04:53 AM »
In heavy wind and waves best you can do is point it straight into the wind. And use 2 smaller drift socks on the side of the boat. If you run a parachute straight out the back your asking for trouble. Other than that not much you can do. Running big boards might help a bit too.

filetandrelease

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Re: Inline Weights vs Bottom Bouncers
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2023, 06:07 AM »
 Tim if your running a bow mount foot pedal without I pilot your going to have issues
 I tried it and used everything to keep inline nothing worked
 I sold it and got an I pilot and that spot lock is great for perch and jigging eyes

Mac Attack

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Re: Inline Weights vs Bottom Bouncers
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2023, 07:53 AM »
We used to perch fish with an anchor on Erie.
We were typically in water 60-80 FOW.
A royal PITA to haul up an anchor every time you wanted to move or leave.
My buddy's Whaler had deep grooves worn into the gunnels on the bow from hauling the anchor rope over them.
I am not kidding.
I wish I had pictures to show you how deep those groves were in the fiberglass.
One day I suggested to him that he should get the ipilot with spotlock.
He went out and bought a 24volt Terrova and 2 deep storage batteries the very next day and we mounted it and immediately went out to test it.
We went out in >2' waves and a 15+ mph wind.
We were that crazy about seeing how it would work.
We were amazed!!
We could not believe how it held us.

Let's say you are in 70 FOW.
You are supposed to put out a ratio of 3:1 on your anchor rode, but who does that???
So, let's assume we put out 150' of anchor rope.
The 70' water you are in is the vertical and the 150' is the hypotenuse.
If you do the math, the horizontal, or the radius of your circle out there works out to be 132.7'.
So, the circle you are in is about 265' in diameter.

You are floating around in a 265' circle!!!!

Almost a football field long for crying out loud.
I want to think the perch schools might sometimes be that large, but I'm a little more realistic than that.   lol

Prior to 2017, the ipilot spotlock is reported to hold you in a 10-15' circle.
Newer than 2017, with the puck, it reportedly will hold you in a 5' circle.
That is insane.

I bought my first ipilot Terrova on my 2013 Lund.
It was a game changer to say the least.
I had it on the 21' Trophy and the Ulterra on it.
I have it now on my pontoon with the Riptide Terrova.

I simply don't know why anyone would not at least investigate this.
I know they are not inexpensive.
But look what you have already tied up in fishing gear, electronics, and your boat.
What's another $2k for the Minn Kota, and another $1K for LA deep cycle batteries (or $2k for LiFePo2 batteries if you want to really do it right).
Ipilot is a very close 2nd to my graph.
And ALWAYS oversize your Minn Kota.
The last thing you need is to be running on a 8,9, or 10 setting, chewing up battery and not holding position.
There are better props too for the Minn Kota.
Check out the Kipawa blades -

https://www.kipawapropellers.com/


Lastly, couple the ipilot with your kicker and it cannot be beat for a trolling setup.

filetandrelease

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Re: Inline Weights vs Bottom Bouncers
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2023, 08:18 AM »
 
 I just purchased a 55# 54Ē shaft  for the  old 16í for perching
 Ran it all day moving around and on spot lock at the end of the day still had 3 outta 4 lights showing and thatís on a deep cell Walmart group 29   sealed battery it has a 2 year warranty
 
 
 

JerryofWNY

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Re: Inline Weights vs Bottom Bouncers
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2023, 05:20 PM »
I tell everyone I know who is in the market for a boat to buy a boat two thousand under budget and put a Terrova or similar on it.
"Most folks are just about as happy as they make up their minds to be."....Abe Lincoln

iceman260

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Re: Inline Weights vs Bottom Bouncers
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2023, 05:59 AM »
The terrova with ipilot is the best upgrade I have ever made, record a track and repeat it or go back to beginning is a great feature. Hands freed up to fish, spotlock is great when on a school, haven't used my anchor in years. Probubly the most significant change to my fishing along with my helix 7 mega si .

fishinjohn

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Re: Inline Weights vs Bottom Bouncers
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2023, 07:00 AM »
Next year I'm upgrading my main batteries to lithium..
Then the following year my deep cycles will get upgraded

filetandrelease

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Re: Inline Weights vs Bottom Bouncers
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2023, 07:59 AM »
 I thought about up grading to lithium
 I get 5 years out of my wet deep cell 36v so the price is a factor for me , so price vs time

Mac Attack

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Re: Inline Weights vs Bottom Bouncers
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2023, 09:50 AM »
I thought about up grading to lithium
 I get 5 years out of my wet deep cell 36v so the price is a factor for me , so price vs time

Lithium has come down a LOT.
Be sure to factor in the fact that you can use all of a lithium battery vs only (supposed to be) using 50% of a lead acid battery.
But nobody only uses 50%.
Anyway, so, a lead acid Series 31, with 100 Ah, is roughly equivalent to a 50 Ah lithium.
On Amazon, you can buy a 12VDC, 50Ah lithium for $150-180.
Now factor in the fact that you easily get 8-12X the life out of a lithium.................
And finally, look at the weight reduction.
A series 31 LA weighs about 80-85 lbs
The 50Ah lithium weighs only 10-11 lbs

But go with the 100Ah!!!

BTW, mine is 228Ah -  ;D

Good luck partner!

Mac Attack

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Re: Inline Weights vs Bottom Bouncers
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2023, 09:54 AM »
one more thing

Lithium batteries are not good (yet) for heavy current draw - like for use as a starting battery.
Bout outboards, lawn tractors, motorcycles, 4x4's, etc. don't require large torque starters that draw gobs of amps.
But if you have an I/O, a car, truck, etc. they really aren't good for that.

filetandrelease

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Re: Inline Weights vs Bottom Bouncers
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2023, 10:00 AM »
 Thanks for the input Mac
 I looked up the 50 amp cheapies are 150 , better ones seem to be around  350
 Iím running 29s in the Lund
 Choices choices 😃

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Re: Inline Weights vs Bottom Bouncers
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2023, 01:17 PM »
Thanks for the input Mac
 I looked up the 50 amp cheapies are 150 , better ones seem to be around  350
 Iím running 29s in the Lund
 Choices choices 😃


Let's say the "cheapies" are half as good as the good ones.
Then you only get maybe 4-6X the life out of them compared to a lead acid battery.
Just sayin.
 ;)

For $150, I would have no problem chancing it.

I would still go with the 100Ah units though.
Two half charges = one full charge
So, effectively, a 100Ah battery should last 2X as long as a 50Ah battery

filetandrelease

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Re: Inline Weights vs Bottom Bouncers
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2023, 02:11 PM »

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