barleydog, Thank you very much for your response and for the beautiful pictures. That Char sure does resemble a brookie. No, you are not a bad dad. Wise is the man who would teach his son's the joy's of fishing, for he shall never need to go looking for them. You are creating memories for them that they will always cherish. I still remember going out and playing softball at Ft. Greeley at 2:00 A.M. It was like broad daylight. If it's not too much to ask, I would still love to see some pictures of Quartz Lake if you happen to go there. Moochass Grassyass! DIRTBALL2 aka:Keith Forsberg