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MyFishFinder Tips and Techniques => Bait => Topic started by: shrub on Apr 05, 2006, 05:46 PM
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i have a minnow trap in a pond by my house and when i checked it today there was about 3 doz. salamanders and a couple tadpoles. so i was wonder if salamanders and/or tadpoles have any value as bait
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I'm no expert, but I believe that in southern ponds and lakes, the plastic/rubber salamanders are very effective on bass. I think it has something to do with salamanders eating the eggs, and the bass attack them aggressively. So the salamanders might be useful as bait, not sure how to hook them though. As for the tadpoles, they may be too small, but I am sure that predators will go after them.
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im not sure if you are allowed to use live salamanders for bait
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Not sure either, I'll check the NY regs...he is from Vermont though.
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Try imitating salamanders with a small spinner and appropriate length black plastic worm.
Cast it let it dead sink, wiggle it fairly fast towards the surface then dead sink it again. Repeat.
Watch your line on the sink....won't feel it ....look for a hesitation and set the hook. Watch how the salamanders do it and copy 'em!
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Did you catch Salamanders or Newts because bass dont like newts they taste funny so they will grab them and spit them out quickly :)
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i think they were newts he said he cought them in a trap
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Put them in an aquarium or let them go, newts are crap for bait.
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Im pretty sure there was an identicle thread last season. I think the outcome was that there were a lot of areas where you were not able to use them as bait...
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brookies love em ;)
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brookies love em ;)
newts or salamanders?
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eastern newt i think...the ones that are in a lot of adirondack ponds....I have found them inside brookies many times
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what do they look like? The ones I have seen are about 4" long and have skin like a wart toad. The dog wont even touch them. I was told they were newts, but I could be totaly wrong.
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here ya go skip! the ones I see in the bellies look like the 5th one down next to where its talkin about life cycles
http://www.fcps.k12.va.us/StratfordLandingES/Ecology/mpages/eastern_newt.htm (http://www.fcps.k12.va.us/StratfordLandingES/Ecology/mpages/eastern_newt.htm)
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Hood are you talkingabout the Red-spotted Newt?? There are 1 and 2 lined Salamanders that live in streams :)
This ugly bastard (https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fcps.k12.va.us%2FStratfordLandingES%2FEcology%2FAmphibians%2FEastern%2520Newt%2FEX_newt9_se.jpg&hash=1e73ef1167b7694d0fe6a0a3a4b2fb29) are the ones that I see bass grab then spit out right away.
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Fk....i think the red-spotted and eastern are the same but have 2 different names...those are definately the ones that i have seen in trout and have caught a few on them as well.....on that link the second picture, they sometimes have that color phase going.....all this trout talk and im goin panfishin tomorrow ::)
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Thanks for the link Hood, I learn something new every day on mff! :thumbup_smilie:
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A friend of mine caught a 18" brown a few years back from a stream near home that had a big spring salamander ( the black ones with yellow spots ) in it's stomach. I have never seen one of these in a Trout's stomach and I didn't think they would eat them. I'm not sure if they're legal to use for bait here in Pa. or not. They wouldn't be my first choice for bait anyway......WK :-\
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While we're on the subject, last year a caught a red salamander or newt. It was in the water in a small stream. It had a tail like a newts but was about 9" long. What was it specifically?
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I have alot of newts in my ponds, and the fish will not eat them....I had them in an aquarium with small bullhead and some newts in there, and once, the bullhead tried to eat a newt. It spit it out, I believe they produce a type of toxin.
To keva...I sounds to me that you might have caught a mudpuppy. Where are you located?
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Pasquatch you are correct newts and some salamanders are poisonous. There toxin can very from species but be as mild as fowl tasting or smelling to death if eaten.
More toxic animals have warning colorations to there bodies waring everyone to stay away. Common warning colors are black and red, black and white and black and yellow. They will also do lots of posturing to show off there colors on there back or under there belly.
Mudpuppies are not poisonous but it is illegal in most areas to use them as bait.
WW
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They are not all poisonous, the eastern newt undergoes a few changes in its life and in one of its stages underwater is not poisonous and can be consumed. Brookies love them.