MyFishFinder Forum
MFF US Northeast => Vermont => Topic started by: TroutCrazy on Apr 11, 2018, 06:33 PM
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It's time to think about gardening, too! I hate the idea of buying fertilizer, when I throw away so many fish carcasses. There's a lot of conflicting information on the internet about using fish as fertilizer. I live in Burlington, so I can't have a big stinky situation.
Some people on the internet say you have to make fish emulsion or some other fermented goo (not an option in Burlington). Others say to bury the fish 1.5 or 2 feet deep, but honestly I'm not sure I trust what I'm reading.
Does anyone bury fish directly in their garden?
How do you do it?
Does it cause any problems?
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my grandpa did it with pike carcasses. he lived in a small town on a big lot but i don't recall any smell just the odd curious cat.
amazing garden, that's for sure.
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a dog that is determined will dig up fish carcasses if given the time. the only one that will smell a fish carcass buried 18"s underground would be a hungry mutt or scavenger. fish emulsion sounds like something my yellow lab wouldve loved to roll in
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Not only dogs, but skunks and opossums will dig them up too. :-\
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i bury some fish carcasses in the garden every year, right now or late fall is the best time to bury them, curious critters will sometimes investigate if you dont bury them that deep but i have had pretty great luck with it every year, i like to use smaller fish when possible, and definitely use all the guts you can
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Yes, I bury both freshwater and saltwater species in my garden ALL the time. I can tell you that i never have issues with critters as well as a stench. I bury them about 2 feet under where the till cannot get to them. The key is packing them tight with dirt so your not left with a huge air pocket. My garden is amazing to say the least! I had 16' tall sunflowers last year and they were so big they bent half that distance back to the ground, yet the tallest point was 16'! I will find the picture and post it. I also fillet my fish near my berry plants so that all the juices from washing down go into the plants.
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If you bury them below the “till”, and plant roots, what benefit can they actually be as fertilizer.
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When my dad was younger, they used to bury a little brook trout under each corn kernel in the garden.
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If you bury them below the “till”, and plant roots, what benefit can they actually be as fertilizer.
You ever see worms at work? They do the work for me and bring it back up from the depth. The fish does not just sink deeper into the earth, quite opposite actually. And this way I avoid critters and a terrible smell.
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You ever see worms at work? They do the work for me and bring it back up from the depth. The fish does not just sink deeper into the earth, quite opposite actually. And this way I avoid critters and a terrible smell.
Worms, bugs, moles, chipmunks, bacteria, microorganisms etc. you’re right on in your thought process.
Some plants even have a symbiotic relationship with fungi that grow on their roots, and will attain needed chemicals for them from the surrounding soil.
Kind of off topic, but I found some Indian pipe “flowers” in the forest behind my house, and was amazed to learn they don’t posses any chlorophyll, and are basically a plant parasite. Cool read if you look them up.
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Be careful giving tips on this. The last folks that said burying fish in your garden helped the plants grow had a bounty on their heads within 30 years! ::)
(https://i.imgur.com/5SPQ3wqm.jpg)
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You ever see worms at work? They do the work for me and bring it back up from the depth. The fish does not just sink deeper into the earth, quite opposite actually. And this way I avoid critters and a terrible smell.
Excellent point.
Never thought of this.
Thanks.
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Worms, bugs, moles, chipmunks, bacteria, microorganisms etc. you’re right on in your thought process.
Some plants even have a symbiotic relationship with fungi that grow on their roots, and will attain needed chemicals for them from the surrounding soil.
Kind of off topic, but I found some Indian pipe “flowers” in the forest behind my house, and was amazed to learn they don’t posses any chlorophyll, and are basically a plant parasite. Cool read if you look them up.
Thanks zwiggles. My parents are from the old country (Poland) and taught me a few things that the "locals" might not know. Funny thing is I am a "local" since I was born in the good ol' US of A so don't take it the wrong way lol.
And since you are off topic on Fungi, My folks are also avid mushroom hunters. Poland is full of Chanterells as well as King Boletes and many other Boletes. I took their knowledge and with some homework I now pick over 30 different edibles in my region. As far as the Indian Pipe Flowers, its almost that time for them to be popping out of the ground. pretty neat looking arent they?
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Be careful giving tips on this. The last folks that said burying fish in your garden helped the plants grow had a bounty on their heads within 30 years! ::)
(https://i.imgur.com/5SPQ3wqm.jpg)
LOL - no worries, I also practice my second amendment weekly. Aim small, miss small.
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Excellent point.
Never thought of this.
Thanks.
Anytime.
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I'm gonna try it!
I don't think the neighbor's dog can get in my garden fence. Maybe a possum, we'll see...
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There was a discussion on this over at the ice shanty that had some good advice too. https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=358734.0
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Many many years ago, my father and I buried around 50 carp in the garden I shot with the bow. He used the furrowing attachment for his roto tiller to dig deep trenches. Laid the fish in and covered. That year the pepper plants were over shoulder high. Had to cut them out with an axe that fall. Hardly any peppers though. Found out later pepper plants do better in poorer soil
The rest of the garden grew great for several years after that. Now I just bury my trimmings in the compost heap and use that in the garden.
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Always have thrown any dead minnows I find in the bait bucket on the compost pile.
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Thanks zwiggles. My parents are from the old country (Poland) and taught me a few things that the "locals" might not know. Funny thing is I am a "local" since I was born in the good ol' US of A so don't take it the wrong way lol.
And since you are off topic on Fungi, My folks are also avid mushroom hunters. Poland is full of Chanterells as well as King Boletes and many other Boletes. I took their knowledge and with some homework I now pick over 30 different edibles in my region. As far as the Indian Pipe Flowers, its almost that time for them to be popping out of the ground. pretty neat looking arent they?
We just got a dusting of snow this morning. I swear winni isn’t going to melt until May at this rate. I’ve been hunting for new plants popping through the past few weeks, but the weather here in New Hampshire is terrible right now. We seem to be a few weeks behind. Hopefully in a few weeks I can actually work out in the garden and try the fish “planting” technique you mentioned.
The Indian pipe and other native flowers are what I find to be really interesting. Everything else you find that flowers in most gardens is from China, and are all more or less the same.
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We just got a dusting of snow this morning. I swear winni isn’t going to melt until May at this rate. I’ve been hunting for new plants popping through the past few weeks, but the weather here in New Hampshire is terrible right now. We seem to be a few weeks behind. Hopefully in a few weeks I can actually work out in the garden and try the fish “planting” technique you mentioned.
The Indian pipe and other native flowers are what I find to be really interesting. Everything else you find that flowers in most gardens is from China, and are all more or less the same.
Yeah, kinda sad that there is still so much ice in NH and you cannot legally fish the salmon lakes. Talk about a tease!
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i like to dig some holes in the fall and cover them as i go. i also use large flat rocks and plywood etc as covers to help keep the critters out. when the garden is active be more cautious, dig deeper. or use an abandoned spot that you have future plans for.