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MFF US Northeast => New York => Topic started by: SNAGGER on Mar 31, 2015, 10:55 AM
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I want too start this years thread with my take on the state of the lake meeting I attended on March 11th, what I wrote on my facebook page.
Great turn out at the state of the lake meeting, most I 've seen in 25 yrs, nice sitting next too you Rob.
So I asked two questions at the state of the lake meeting. is it standard prosedure too treat steelhead eggs at the hatchery with b 1 vitamins or did they just start it this yr? answer, no they been doing it for decades, that means that thiamine deficiency is not new , its been around along time. now the degree of the dificiency is more severe this yr, so they say because alewives are having a hard time feeding themselves and fat reserves are down, when steelhead eat stressed out alewives it somehow increases thiamine deficiency..
I asked why are the fat reserves so low in alewives this season, in other words why are the baitfish so skinny? was it the cold winter last yr? that question got pushed off...but led too there talk about alewives, we lost a young of the yr class of alewives last winter and the remaining alewives are much thinner than normal. another person asked the Canadian guy that spoke why is the salmon river the only place steelhead seem too die as they have no reports of this happening on the Canadian side even though they eat the same food?, answer, your salmon river is much more crowded and receives heavier fishing pressure... so there you have it. straight from there mouths. What I been saying all along.....Thiamine deficiencies have always been around .... there just particularly severe this past season and steelhead mysteriously only die here on the salmon river where we hook them 70 times a week and take another 100 pictures of them.
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In case no one knows, there was some strong steelhead die offs last early October and again in mid November threw early December, DSR and fly zones having the biggest die offs, its been a hot debate as too why there dieing, otherwise seemingly healthy fish just dieing for no reason, but with highest mortality occurring in catch and release areas suggesting that light line leaders amongst fly fisherman and accidental foul hooking in these areas having the biggest effect on them, other parts of the river there is mortality, but not too the extremes that have been occurring at the DSR and up top in the Fly zones....
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Glad to have you back posting again.
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Nice to see the salmon river thread back up amd running. Always can find solid info on here. Thanks snagger!!!
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Some blame it totally on thiamine issues, there in denial... if that was the case, we wouldn't have hot spots on where mortality is higher, Lake Ontario's plankton is presently very low, suggesting something has changed, compettion from other things like spiny fleas on top of the quagga/zebra muscles and other invaders......it could just be harsh winters, or it could be too much bait, or all of the above... no one really knows yet, but whatever the reason ....it is causing the strong alewives classes out there too starve, and with them so much thinner, when eaten by salmonoids there is an abundance of thiamese in these alewives, it makes steelhead and cohos stressed and deficient... When these fish enter the river they look and fight healthy, but if beat on over and over and repeatedly get taken out of the water for pictures, they soon roll over and die, there more fragil then in years past, the dieing has been occurring statewide, but not even close too the extremes here on the salmon river.
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Redfield Reservoir update March 22nd, its drawn down as far as they can draw it down, approx. 16 feet from water mark too the ice, couldn't physically measure it as collapsed ice was too steep too walk on, supprised there running 350, should still be lower. long dry winter took its toll.
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Lake Ontario ice coverage March 30th
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In case no one knows, there was some strong steelhead die offs last early October and again in mid November threw early December, DSR and fly zones having the biggest die offs, its been a hot debate as too why there dieing, otherwise seemingly healthy fish just dieing for no reason, but with highest mortality occurring in catch and release areas suggesting that light line leaders amongst fly fisherman and accidental foul hooking in these areas having the biggest effect on them, other parts of the river there is mortality, but not too the extremes that have been occurring at the DSR and up top in the Fly zones....
We were fishing below the Lower fly fishing section in Altmar (below the bridge) last Friday and Saturday. We saw at least a dozen fish floating by us each day in various states of dying. What shocked me was most of the fish were very big and very fresh and clean looking. I also caught a really beat up, spawned out female during the trip that had some nasty looking parasites all over it's gill rakers. These are my observations from a quick trip up from MA.
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yep forgot about gill lice, seems it likes cold weather, its more abundant this winter as well, another stress factor, were in a perfect storm right now, fishin pressure is the highest I've ever witnessed in my life, has nothing too do with computer posting, it was a hard winter, people got cabin fever bad ....rivers dead low, so very fly fishing friendly, not bashing them, just its a perfect storm for mortality in the fly zones right now, very cold water heath issues and over fishing, perfect storm, surprised dec hasn't closed them down too protect hatchery broodstock.
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Great info. this does suck.
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Nothing we can do about this, we got a couple tough years ahead of us..... less photos, bigger lb test, shorter battles....as a photographer I take my share, but I'm no hypocrite, most of my photos are of dead fish, fish in my station or one I killed, I've not taken a photo of a released steelhead in sometime, maybe 2 yrs.
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Ah shoot back up and running we are!!!!! Boom!!!
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Good info. Glad to see the thread back! Thanks for sharing all the information with us.
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My 2 cents is that guys snag a fish,play it out til it's half dead then throw it on the rocks and beat the hell out of fish some more,and finally giving the fish a swift kick back in the river sometimes after taking a half a dozen pics.The regs. on C&R need to be tightened up and enforced severely!I firmly believe that 50% of dieoff is contributed to mishandling fish,I see it time after time on the Erie creeks.I always make mention when I see this that these fish deserve way more respect than they received,but it always falls on deaf ears,mostly in a reply of "the fish will be fine it swam away"!Yes the fish swam away but is so exhausted that it can't hold itself in decent current to feed and litteraly is carried by the current til it drowns from exhaustion!I think you should have to take a course on C & R and have a certificate that verifies you took the course and should know how to properly release fish,and it should be strictly enforced by the law in C&R areas! :police: :police: :police:!I can't even fish near people because of this disrespect tward these beautiful gems,I also believe that a law should be enforced that if you have your limit on a stringer your done for the day.I know it would be a bit unfair for Lake O tribs seeing that I think the limit is still 1 but will cut down on abuse of fish IMO.We pay for these fish and should be outraged when we see these gems abused so don't be afraid to say something if you see abuse of our fish!I think if I use a little more tact,but you can't get through to these ignorant jack###es so I can just speak my peace and move on, or get into a confrontation which has happened more than once,not my kind of fishing.I have been downstream many times and seen fish floating in the current,when I do I'll try to net the fish and try to revive it in calm water and hopefully it survives.ENOUGH SAID!!
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Just to post the first fishing report. Bryan and I went 4 for 8 today. The afternoon was real slow for us.
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nice to see the thread back up Shane. Thanks
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My 2 cents is that guys snag a fish,play it out til it's half dead then throw it on the rocks and beat the hell out of fish some more,and finally giving the fish a swift kick back in the river sometimes after taking a half a dozen pics.The regs. on C&R need to be tightened up and enforced severely!I firmly believe that 50% of dieoff is contributed to mishandling fish,I see it time after time on the Erie creeks.I always make mention when I see this that these fish deserve way more respect than they received,but it always falls on deaf ears,mostly in a reply of "the fish will be fine it swam away"!Yes the fish swam away but is so exhausted that it can't hold itself in decent current to feed and litteraly is carried by the current til it drowns from exhaustion!I think you should have to take a course on C & R and have a certificate that verifies you took the course and should know how to properly release fish,and it should be strictly enforced by the law in C&R areas! :police: :police: :police:!I can't even fish near people because of this disrespect tward these beautiful gems,I also believe that a law should be enforced that if you have your limit on a stringer your done for the day.I know it would be a bit unfair for Lake O tribs seeing that I think the limit is still 1 but will cut down on abuse of fish IMO.We pay for these fish and should be outraged when we see these gems abused so don't be afraid to say something if you see abuse of our fish!I think if I use a little more tact,but you can't get through to these ignorant jack###es so I can just speak my peace and move on, or get into a confrontation which has happened more than once,not my kind of fishing.I have been downstream many times and seen fish floating in the current,when I do I'll try to net the fish and try to revive it in calm water and hopefully it survives.ENOUGH SAID!!
I think a catch and release class or video would be a good idea.
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So glad this thread is back, good fishing with you today KC. Heres a question I asked KC today, 2 guys fishing the same seam, same say bead, and one guy seems to get almost all the strikes, why? What do you think
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I think it's a stocked fish in a put and take fishery not a 4 year old kid .....I really don't loose much sleep over it .... I think most steelhead fisherman attempt to do the best they can I have never seen a fisherman toss a fish on the rocks then release it that's just foolish talk .... and I don't think we need a course on how to toss a fish back
snagger glad the thread is back and good to see you as well
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So glad this thread is back, good fishing with you today KC. Heres a question I asked KC today, 2 guys fishing the same seam, same say bead, and one guy seems to get almost all the strikes, why? What do you think
I'm not big on beads but fly fishing .... I think it's the drift one guy is in the zone perfect the other thinks he is but something justisn't right
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yea trapper im just saying beads but it could be anything sacks flies pw whatever. I think a lot has to do with the way you place your shot pattern, not an expert, that's why I put the question out there to see some that have a lot more experience then me chime in on it
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So glad this thread is back, good fishing with you today KC. Heres a question I asked KC today, 2 guys fishing the same seam, same say bead, and one guy seems to get almost all the strikes, why? What do you think
trick question one guy is using a pin lol ;D
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yea trapper im just saying beads but it could be anything sacks flies pw whatever. I think a lot has to do with the way you place your shot pattern, not an expert, that's why I put the question out there to see some that have a lot more experience then me chime in on it
it's happened with me and friends fly fishing many times ....one offering is just more appealing to the fish ...I think it'ssomething to do with the drift
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Since I can remember a step or two up or downstream can make a world of difference. Many factors...difference in presentation and difference in depth placement along with proximity of the fish's feeding/strike zone are key factors. Lining is also a big role player in it as well. Lining fish is inevitable when steelhead fishing, but it all comes down to intent. We switched over to running lines on fly rods years ago in the middle 90's to target lothargic winter steelhead more easily. It was a great proven method. Of course fish would naturally get lined here and their but it was not the intent we had. Slowly but surely the method got used and abused like every other and is now looked down upon. Even with the switch over to floating lines and switch lines for targeting steelhead I see just as much if not even more bad intent. The fly zone is ridiculous to watch at times. This past weekend was the worst I've ever seen for steelhead fishing pressure in Altmar.
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WASSSSSUP! :afro: :afro: :afro: Great to see the thread back!! BINGO
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So glad this thread is back, good fishing with you today KC. Heres a question I asked KC today, 2 guys fishing the same seam, same say bead, and one guy seems to get almost all the strikes, why? What do you think
his shot pattern is better than the guy getting outfished, waters cold, got too have bead down in front of him, they aint rising for nothing yet.
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Trapper,
Check out some of the Erie streams sometime and youllbe apalled,Im kind of shocked by your attitude.These fish are precious and quite a few are wild so don't fool yourself,most guys would give anything to have this tremendous fishery in their back yard,it's special and we need to treat it that way.Hunters08 you have a good idea there.
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Is anyone familiar with Horton creek/beaverkill in Delaware county? In summer months large browns and rainbows from the Delaware system make their way over to the Horton creek inlet on the beaverkill. It used to be a normal public access area. It is now considered a special area in which its closed to protect the fish when they are seeking refuge there in the summer months. "If".. I mean "if" studies come back justifying a large wild steelhead population in the SR, and "if" this thiamine deficiency worsens, I wouldn't mind seeing special regulations from Ellis cove and up during refuge months... I'm not suggesting total closure, but special regulations could help. Let's face the facts, as Shane put it, how many times can these fish get hooked and battled??? And we all know that Ellis and up is refuge grounds for them. Downtown Pulaski gets pretty brutal too in October these days. Guys lining and foul hooking the crap out of steelhead with salmon gear... Its definitely an issue IMHO... Especially if this thiamine deficiency prevails
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Seems like people have a lot of great ideas here but nobody important is hearing them. Are there any fish biologists on this website or are we all just self-taught PhD's in everything here?
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Is anyone familiar with Horton creek/beaverkill in Delaware county? In summer months large browns and rainbows from the Delaware system make their way over to the Horton creek inlet on the beaverkill. It used to be a normal public access area. It is now considered a special area in which its closed to protect the fish when they are seeking refuge there in the summer months. "If".. I mean "if" studies come back justifying a large wild steelhead population in the SR, and "if" this thiamine deficiency worsens, I wouldn't mind seeing special regulations from Ellis cove and up during refuge months... I'm not suggesting total closure, but special regulations could help. Let's face the facts, as Shane put it, how many times can these fish get hooked and battled??? And we all know that Ellis and up is refuge grounds for them. Downtown Pulaski gets pretty brutal too in October these days. Guys lining and foul hooking the crap out of steelhead with salmon gear... Its definitely an issue IMHO... Especially if this thiamine deficiency prevails
your problem is most steelheads killed are taken in the lake not the river
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Nice to see the SR thread again Snag.
Last fall I fished the SR many , many days late September through mid November. I decided I was not going to take pictures of all the released steelhead anymore, only real exceptional fish ,if I landed any.I have enough pictures and have posted enough the last few years. It turned out It was a good thing to do without even knowing why there were so many dead , dying and weak steelhead along the river. Knowing now why those steelhead died , I will definitely continue a "quick fight" "quick release" no picture approach, and never remove the fish from the water again. The amount of mishandling , beaching onto rocks and mud and sand, netting and removing hooks up on the bank, carrying and cradling fish 50 yards upriver so a friend could take a picture{I kid you not}, fish struggling and thumping on the floor of boats photographed then released, hands and fingers in gills while waiting for a picture...well lot's of mishandling going on. With this new more fragile run of steelhead in the rivers, we are going to have to treat them differently....Even a quick removal from the water for a picture might be doing them harm after they just battled for their life. Take pics of the fish you keep. I know this is not going to sit well with many, and I don't expect everyone to follow this approach, but it is what I'm going to continue to do...it is right for me.
Catching and releasing of fish is a great thing, if done right. For more than 1 or 2 or 10 guy's to be able to catch the same fish in it's lifetime is awesome.... a wonderful fish to be enjoyed by many.But the vitamin B issues in some fish will doom even some properly handled fish.T he current regulations and lack of manpower to enforce the regulations, and the mishandling of the fish is a continuing problem. The fly zone regulations and antics are a joke, lot's of fish stressed out and weak because many are being foul hooked and caught repeatedly. The same stuff is going on in the main river too..... as is the blatant targeting and snagging of steelhead by many salmon fisherman .... it is heartbreaking at times. If there are low numbers of salmon in the river, the steelhead will be targeted, snagged and put on stringers, especially during low water flows. I wish steelhead could be better protected from the salmon fisherman...maybe entire river no-kill of steelhead until after mid or late October when the salmon crowds thin out. Just some thoughts, sorry for the rant.
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choo choo I do think good fisherman will always do their best to protect a fishery , I also understand the excitement in people catching what probably is the biggest fish of their life .... and truth the salmon fisherman are the only reason we have the steelhead to begin with .... like deer ,lot of winter kill this year ,and very little anyone can do about it the fish been there a bad winter and are stressed ,so are the fisherman .....I know I disagree with the "native steelhead population thing" I honestly feel that this shows our fishery will always depend on stocking ,always has always will
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Choo choo, very nice to hear your passionate input. I'm not sure no kill on steelhead would solve the early run steelhead because nothing will stop the cannon balls from bouncing and ripping at them when they become present. It really comes down to one's intent and law enforcement. I've often thought that a snagging season brought back would help. Sep. 15th to maybe Oct. 7th or 15th. It could possibly fullfill most of the snatcber's bellies in terms of hording and snagging salmon. And then anytime there after heavy fines would come along with any noticeable intent to snag. Coupled with special regs for certain areas in certain times of the year could make big things happen. But I'm not in environmental law enforcement and I'm far from a PhD :)
Trapper: you're spot on.. A "good" fisherman should and will protect and respect its fish and habitat... These days there seems to be more bad than good though.
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Be careful what you wish for? no fishin in winter? winter steelhead is why we all moved here....that's no solution, when theres less fish less guys will show up, it will work it self out, I don't fly fish, but as long as theres a fly zone, shoot if I was a fly fisherman I'd be right there with them having fun.
Runoff is ramping up in all the cricks and off Tug hill, River should be headed up, ending the fly zone's low water hookupfest run, probably won't be this low again til May.
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good to see you made it off that silly pond ice down there in oneida
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Shane I'm with ya on less fish less guys. Seen it happen in the past. Not saying total closure of refuge areas, but something maybe??? Anything to stop the unethical practices. I have no solution myself. Just tired of seeing guys elbow to elbow "saying" their fly fishing for "elusive" steelhead while most of their fish are getting reeled in backwards. OK I got it out...enough of my rants...lol!!!
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Every creek and rivers flooding but Brookfield power is sleeping again, forgot about the redfield reservoir again, rivers still at 350cfs even though Reservoir has gained 6 feet in 36 hours.
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snag that's crazy they have everything wide open on the Oswego river .... yesterday I fished fulton and phoenix water was pretty clean and normal today its a foot from the bulk heads and chocolate brown.... I knew it was coming but it came fast .....
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Every creek and rivers flooding but Brookfield power is sleeping again, forgot about the redfield reservoir again, rivers still at 350cfs even though Reservoir has gained 6 feet in 36 hours.
They finally upped the river to 1250 and it's about 1700 in Pineville. Brookfield better get there thumb out of their holes and do this right. My dad worked for Nino 40 years and back in the day it was a drive up to the hill at least every other day to check snow pack and ground saturation.........
It disgusts me how the people in the zones treat the fish. Saw a guy rip one off a bed the other day and whoop and holler about hot ''hot'' the fishing was. The DEC could pass one law to stop some of this mishandling up there. No pictures in the zones and the fish does not leave the water if at all possible. If they catch you license is gone for one year and a hefty fine
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we need no more laws, I see more fisherman abused bye the dec in Oswego then I see fish misused .....
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I fished the Lower fly zone on 3/31. I had a great day, landing 8 nice steelhead. Six males and 2 females, which makes sense; most of the girls are busy right now, and not feeding. All 8 were caught in the roof of the mouth or in the corner of the jaw. The smallest fly I used was a size 10 stonefly and I was fishing with 5 lb Drennan. The fights were short and the fish never left the water except for 1 nice male I wanted a picture of.
No one was fishing above me ( physical impossibility) and the upper fly zone was closed. I had 3 swirlers hit me in the legs as they struggled to survive. I doubt these fish had been caught that day.
Guys, these fish are just dying. It's no one's fault.
Fish are mishandled the entire length of the river, not just in the fly zones. Fish are lined the entire length of the river, not just in the fly zones. AND, SADLY, fish are SNAGGED the entire length of the river, not just in the fly zones.
If you see someone mishandling fish, or fishing in an unethical manner, try to show them how to do it properly in a friendly way. If they continue after that, use the tip line.
Too much hate in this thread. Lighten up.....-Paul
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Happy Easter everyone, Choo now its time to get your river on lol and Deadeyez BINGO is in the future
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boom! :w00t: :w00t:
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Never fished the SR. Where should one start?
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Flyzones :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:
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Did alot of studying last night, looked at previous floods, odd I was only flooded 4 times from 1993-2009, since 2010 3 out of 4 years...studied euro models, gfs models, long rain models, snow on ground, saturation rates, how much rain recently was added too the snowpack...where the Reservoir is currently being held, ect... this is what I came up with,
from April 9th threw the 26th, River should be 2000cfs or higher, should stay above 1500cfs threw may 5th, flood threat for this Saturday is medium, but next Wednesday the 15th, very likely chance at a peak flow with very high water leading into it, another high chance at a peak flow around april 19th.
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Flyzones :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:
Only if you know how to fly fish.....otherwise it's gonna be a long day....-Paul
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Shane you're probably pretty close with your flowcast... We got real lucky with the slow thaw out the past month or so. We're getting real close to near bare in the eastern lake region. 6 miles to the east and so forth is a whole different ball game though.
Fly fishing in the fly zones??? Never seen it ::).
Just kidding...well sorta ;)
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Thunderstorms just rolled threw dropping almost an inch of rain, waters will be rising for sometime now.
... FLOOD WATCH IN EFFECT FROM THURSDAY EVENING THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING...
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BUFFALO HAS ISSUED A
* FLOOD WATCH FOR A PORTION OF CENTRAL NEW YORK... INCLUDING THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES... JEFFERSON... LEWIS AND OSWEGO.
* FROM THURSDAY EVENING THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING.
* PERIODS OF RAIN WILL CONTINUE THROUGH FRIDAY WITH TOTALS POSSIBLY EXCEEDING ONE INCH OVER THE TWO DAY PERIOD. TEMPERATURES WILL ALSO WARM SIGNIFICANTLY LATER THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY. THERE IS STILL A SIGNIFICANT SNOWPACK IN PLACE ACROSS THE HIGHER TERRAIN OF THE TUG HILL PLATEAU AND WESTERN ADIRONDACKS... AND THE WARMER TEMPERATURES WILL RESULT IN RAPID SNOWMELT. EXCESSIVE RUNOFF FROM SNOWMELT AND RAIN WILL RESULT IN SIGNIFICANT RISES ON AREA CREEKS AND RIVERS.
* EXPECT SIGNIFICANT WATER RISES FIRST ON THE SMALLER STREAMS AND CREEKS WHICH DRAIN THE TUG HILL PLATEAU AND WESTERN ADIRONDACKS LATER THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY. LARGER RIVERS WILL THEN SEE SIGNIFICANT RISES FRIDAY INTO THE WEEKEND. HIGHEST WATER LEVELS ON THE UPPER BLACK RIVER AND MOOSE RIVER WOULD LIKELY BE REACHED SATURDAY... WITH THE HIGHEST WATER LEVELS NOT MOVING DOWNSTREAM TO THE LOWER REACHES OF THE BLACK RIVER UNTIL SUNDAY THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK.
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snagger have a boat next to the door and park your truck on higher ground .... this doesn't sound good at all
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Hope you don't flood out Shane! Let me know if you need anything man
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Theres a ton of water everywhere right now. Hopefully Brookfield can handle it. :-\
Shane if you go under you know you can always seek some higher ground over on old 13 if need be. Hope it doesn't go too high for ya.
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Anyone know why the hatchery is still "closed for the season"??? Been checking every once and a while and no dice. Also been checking beaver dam falls with not a fish sighted yet :/
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Anyone know why the hatchery is still "closed for the season"??? Been checking every once and a while and no dice. Also been checking beaver dam falls with not a fish sighted yet :/
There all dead or dying you haven't heard?!
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Yes Monic, I've seen and heard since it started. Didn't know they closed the hatchery to the public though??? Makes one wonder ***censored**** is going on. They should've closed the fly zones back in november, but that's only my opinion
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I floated mid river and upper thurs and Friday last week it's ugly
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I'm done with sr for a while and gonna concentrate on other streams now cause what I saw at fly zones an how many fish I seen while floating that were dead or dying .. There def not telling us actual numbers cause trust me it's far greater than what was said ..
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Anyone know why the hatchery is still "closed for the season"??? Been checking every once and a while and no dice. Also been checking beaver dam falls with not a fish sighted yet :/
Chamber of Commerce said they are going to re-open on wed. april 15.... she said that is what a hatchery worker told her, so not sure if that is official or not.
what I saw at fly zones an how many fish I seen while floating that were dead or dying ..
bummer for sure.
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you have to be an extreme optimist to be employed by any town, city or state Chamber of Commerce.. I have been in Pinehurst , N.C. , called the chamber of commerce in a driving rain storm and have them answer. " good morning, it is a beautiful day in Pinehurst"
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whats salmon river running now????
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1950 cfs thru pineville
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Coho coho thanks for that info. That'll save me a few trips over there. Never seen them open this late with nothing up in beaver yet either. I got out for a couple in the late evening. Brought my son to an easy access to do an upstream retrieval with a rapala. Saw one very large swirler in our 15 minutes effort.
Monic, even a month and a half ago when pressure was low a friend of mine drifted pineville to ball park. He saw a lot of deads mid river to ball park even then.
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I hooked the same steelhead 4 times in Oswego and tossed him in off the wall (I know this because he had a fly I tied in his jaw) he lived ...I think the die off is because of the extreme cold winter .... then the goons ripping fish didn't help but the fly zone has been that way since they opened it.... bottom line it's a put and take ....the boats hammer them more then anyone else
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Trap, fished the zone since it opened. In my opinion its uglier than ever. But maybe that's just my mind playing tricks on me. Ya know, when chuck and duck first came about (it was not called that back in the day) it was an honest attempt to catch winter steelhead. This slash and thrash tactic up in the zone is pretty gross though. But yes, it is a put and take fishery. You are 100% right. This is the first year I've ever seen the hatchery closed to the public, and the most dead steelhead I've ever seen and heard of. I just hope that "we" haven't gone past our means and "taken" too much from what's been "put"...
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Trap, fished the zone since it opened. In my opinion its uglier than ever. But maybe that's just my mind playing tricks on me. Ya know, when chuck and duck first came about (it was not called that back in the day) it was an honest attempt to catch winter steelhead. This slash and thrash tactic up in the zone is pretty gross though. But yes, it is a put and take fishery. You are 100% right. This is the first year I've ever seen the hatchery closed to the public, and the most dead steelhead I've ever seen and heard of. I just hope that "we" haven't gone past our means and "taken" too much from what's been "put"...
I fish the LFZ alot and it is horrific. I have seen sideways ripping, mono on fly reels, too much weight , running line. ect ect ect. The fish are abused for a picture. I say something and am told to F off. I have called and no one shows up. Last year I was almost physically ran off a spot because somebody was ''saving'' a spot for his buddy who was up in his car sleeping. I know because I saw him. There are some good folks that fish there and there are people that feel entitled because they drove 4 hours and we need to bow to them because they come and spend money in town. I say shut it down or police it. Better yet turn it into a kids only area. Under 18 only.
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i am a flyfisherman have been most my life and to be honest i don't like "special fly fishing only " waters ....i don't need a handicapand i'm not afraid to fish with someone with spinning tackle or a kid with a zebco and a worm i enjoy everyone , as far as steelheaders spending money ...no where near the money the salmon crowd does .... me i might get 20 bucks in gas a cup of coffee and stop in all seasons
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I fish the LFZ alot and it is horrific. I have seen sideways ripping, mono on fly reels, too much weight , running line. ect ect ect. The fish are abused for a picture. I say something and am told to F off. I have called and no one shows up. Last year I was almost physically ran off a spot because somebody was ''saving'' a spot for his buddy who was up in his car sleeping. I know because I saw him. There are some good folks that fish there and there are people that feel entitled because they drove 4 hours and we need to bow to them because they come and spend money in town. I say shut it down or police it. Better yet turn it into a kids only area. Under 18 only.
Locals are no more entitled to spots then the mupheres. Who gets there first is who fishes the spot. If you move it you lose it as well.
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I am one of the few natives in the area , my feelings is the same be it on hard or soft water , if someone is fishing a spot you wanted , just move on to the next , first come first served , there are DK,s where ever you go , be it local or out of towner JMO , I have seen both good and bad over the last 50 yrs on the river , just think of one thing , if you tried to stock salmon today , or any other species in the lake some would consider them an invasive species , so enjoy what is available ,
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your right and your wrong you are welcome to fish the spot but you are a quest you are on our state land using our state esaements fishing for fish we stocked on a river we clean ..... I want you fishing next to me and you do have every right too but when I go to PA to hunt or fish I say thank you and keep in mind I am a quest in that state
I personally have never favored "special water" makes no sence to me that as a flyfisherman I need special water ..... and chuck and duck was never a legit way to flyfish neither was a mooching rod ,we all know it it's salmon tactics now being used on steelhead......
I again thing it's time fisherman and the state be honest admit kings don't hit make a honest salmon season and legalise tactics so salmon fisherman can get their fish then shut that completely off and have a real steelhead season with realy tactics legal.......
this is my opinion from what I have seen for the past app. 50 years of salmon in the river
There was no respect from them period. The guy literally said ''we drove here 4 hours and this is our fing spot'' There was close to 40 yards of real estate between the two guys, a mile on the river during prime time. I would of happily fished there and moved when he came back if asked, but I was told and it was a demand. I did not stay and it was close to an hour before the guy came back...........
Trap hit the nail it's about respect and many people treat their trip here like it is a free for all with no rules, leaving the mess for everyone else to look at and clean up.
It sucks waiting for that 1 in a 100 fish to hit, they are too molested to do so. I have also caught plenty in the Oswsegatchi river and other rivers up north on spoons to know they will hit though. I would not be averse to a one month snag a thon before the steel come in. Let them at it and let them leave, then let the people that want to fish for steel and the few remaining salmon have a crack at it.
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So you guys are saying that if someone that drove up there to fish should bow out to any local that wants to fish the spot he was in first because he does not live there.
Oh and money from non resident licenses goes towards raising all the fish put into the river the same as residents.
As far as cleaning up... I have watched plenty of cars with NY plates on them leave trash everywhere also.
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Clint. I'm sorry you had to have that experience with a out of stater.
I'll admit I drove up from pa and I have never turned away any one that wants to fish near me. Like to fish with others and meet new people. Nobody knows everything about fishing so you can always learn something from anybody.
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So you guys are saying that if someone that drove up there to fish should bow out to any local that wants to fish the spot he was in first because he does not live there.
Oh and money from non resident licenses goes towards raising all the fish put into the river the same as residents.
As far as cleaning up... I have watched plenty of cars with NY plates on them leave trash everywhere also.
exactly were did I say you had to bow out ???? I have many friends that come from PA long island and jersey to fish here with me ..... what I am saying is when I fish or hunt out of this area I realize I am a quest and I show the respect the people that worked hard to perseve that area ...most locales do not make money from the tourism dollar yet have to put up with the traffic the trash the profanity the area smelling like urine because grown men are to lazy to walk and use a bathroom ....true this is a very small percentage of out of towners but it does leave a bad taste .....
and your non residence fee means very little and only a very small percentage goes to the locale area i'm not tring to belittle you ,i'm telling you the truth if you wan to impres me carry a trash bag and fill it or stay out of the handicapped parking areas at wal mart ......act like a gentleman and have some respect ...i do when i hunt in PA or fish in canada , no one here said you couldn't fish nor is pointing a finger at you personally your here a few week ends a year ,this is our homes it's where we live .......i don't want my grand children hearing the f word screamed out because someone lost a fish ...i don't want my wife not being able to use a handicapped parking area because someone just drove here and will only be in the store a min ..... i'm a little tired of picking up your trash as well or seeing grown men taking a leak when a porta potti is 50 yards away ........now were does it say on that non residence licence give you that right? oh and when i say local i mean i grew swimming in salmon river
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Wow a lot of content getting thrown around but all good and honest! I m with the respect thing. Self entitlement over another is uncalled for no matter where you're from... Respect the locale for sure. Trap is 100% correct as many local tax payers have no ties to the fishery. Out of state money brought in to the economy is great, but it does not entitle anyone to act deservingly ignorant...(not saying all out of Towner's are like this).. As for spots on the water, yes first come first serve... And common courtesy coupled with stream side etiquette is a must when sharing water with others. But if you're buddy is eating lunch and wants his spot held, that's bull crap...you snooze you lose!!!
Trap I learned fly fishing for trout with dry flies and nymphs at a very young age.. Matching hatches and investigating pupas and larvae under rocks, so I'm sorta on the same page as you. The first few years targeting steelhead was with weight forwards. We eventually switched over in the middle 90's and started using running lines or #3 wf floating lines to accommodate fishing deeper runs with short or quick drifts. Fly fishing was still the mentality and I can assure it was not salmon tactic in the least. But as you know, with that the disease was spread and any Joe schmoe could buy a fly rod and pitch a few cannon balls off the church hole rocks and call themselves a flyfisherman. I was switched back over to weight forwards and more traditional drifting late 90's/early 2000's...
Will say though, we had some banner days with running lines and aggressively hitting steelhead. I haven't fished the zone in probably 3 years. When I fished the river avidly it was usually our last resort. These days I find myself liking bass fishing more and more. And I'm really itching to get a pike on the fly rod, and I wish I was well off enough to go to the Bahamas a couple times a year for bonefish!!! Lol
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I use to fish the salmon for many years and have seen a lot from fighting, pushing kids down to get a fish, to trash and I will say this it is not just out of towners that cause problems but some locals. I was fishing one day and showing a 12 Yr old and his father the correct way to fish for salmon ( not snagging ) and a group of locals came down the path drunk as hell and one pushed the kid down to try to snag a fish that was in font of the kid, when I said something they tried to start a fight with me. It was about 8 to 1 but a group of PA gentlemen came to help and they left. I know some of those guys and know for a fact they were locals and some now are considered great fishermen on this sight ( yes they may have grown up and stopped drinking and cleaned up there act ). I no longer fish there do to there conduct, most people local and out of towners respect others, the fishery and do there part but a few from every group make every one look bad . And yes attack me if you like as truth hurts
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name em
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No because one I know cleaned up his act and I respect him now for that and all he does and if you have a problem with that I am so sorry for you.
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I've been going down from Maine for a while now to fish th S.R., I won't be making the trip anymore. After last year I'm done with it. It's a compete sh!t show on the river. Drunk people yelling all day, garbage floating g down the river, trucks being broke into, campers being broke into..not for me..sorry. Its my vacation to go down and fish, but that's not peacefull. I'll save the grand I spend every year and the 10hr drive and head to northern maine for brook trout.. I had fun catching big fish down there, but when your playing by the rules and you look around and see everyone ripping hooks through the water and hooking up, makes you want to join the snaggers..
I have never seen fishing crouds like that before I fished there. And I get it, lots of fish, lots of people. Before I fished the S.R. if I had ever gone to a spot and there was someone already there I'd go to another place, I never fished within sight of another fisherman.
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No because one I know cleaned up his act and I respect him now for that and all he does and if you have a problem with that I am so sorry for you.
now reason I asked you to name him ,you made some strong comments a man that asasults a 12 year old boy pushes him out of the way while 8 of his friends watch ? and you and his father did nothing ???? I think youre telling a story here sorry I have never seen anything like that and if I seen a child assaulted I assure you someone would be going to jail
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Well yes I did do something and stood up for the young man that is why they tried to fight with me. I do not make up stories about drunks and if you have a problem with that I am sorry. All I have seen from your post on here is threats and trying to blame out of town and out of state people for the problem. I only live 15 min. from there and will not fish there anymore do to what goes on there, the locals think they own the place. I spent one day cleaning up Trout Brook area with one of the land owners years back only to have it trashed the next morning so I understand what goes on there but do not only blame out of towners as they are not the only problem there. I fished next to a guy from there only to see him leave trash and not think nothing of it. yes I knew him from one of the businesses I ran in town so I knew he was a local. If you have a problem with the truth or me I am sorry for you. Yes I have meet many great people there and enjoyed fishing with them but the few that cause problems have made that place not worth my time. yes I pay taxes and buy my lic. but spend my time fishing in places that I can enjoy my self, I would rather fish for sunnies and enjoy it than fish there and put up with the crap that goes on there.
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When I was 10 I was pushed out of a spot by some hooligans that were bouncing cannon balls off of fish's heads at the tail of the black. But later that day I fell in and my father and another stranger saved me. There's good and bad people out there no matter where they come from. Two years ago I gave some younger adults some lip while fighting a monster king with my son. We starting going up with the fish and These punks jumped right down in our spot. With about 200 yards of open bank on the side we were fishing I felt completely justified to let them know how I felt. They stepped right on out with no words back. The crowds are tough no doubt. And I'm noticing a pretty strong movement of people throwing in the towel for the salmon river. Steelhead is what kept me in it but that is near salmon crowds at times too. So i don't blame anyone for not wanting to fish it anymore. But its people in general, not any "type" of person... The more people that share a resource/activity, the more likely there will be an a-hole who ruins it... And on a side note, the trash is etrocious... There should be 1000 dollar minimum fines for anyone who litters... Bottom line!!!
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And I'm noticing a pretty strong movement of people throwing in the towel for the salmon river.
unfortunately yes, this is true. I can only get a few of my friends to go anymore. Just had this exact conversation with a former SR diehard last night, he's thrown in the towel and straight up given up on the SR.
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I'm not giving up on the sr ...I've cleaned , stocked ,planted trees and fished it so much I won't ever give up on her .. But I will say I'm done with her for now I've got other places I will be for the next 2 weeks .. The fish are exhausted from this winters cold and thiamine problem also the fly zones absolutely hammered those fish to exhaustion and left a terrible taste in my mouth there should not be a fly zone only !!! And I will do my best to have it opened for all or close that stretch and let those fish spawn in piece !!!
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For your info I have had the pleasure of fishing next to snagger when I was steel head fishing and he took the time out to show me what I was doing wrong an it helped me a lot he showed the true meaning of sportsmanship. Point is it is not just out of area fisherman but locals to and until people see this and stop blaming just one group it will not change. I try to say hi to everyone I see when I am out fishing and when possible talk to them and help them if needed or pick there brains to learn more when possible. The salmon river now reminds me of the old snagging days when leaded hooks were thrown at you. The only difference now is when the snagging season closed most of the problems went home and you could fish without conflict. Now it is everyday problems as you read on here all the time.
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"your right and your wrong you are welcome to fish the spot but you are a quest you are on our state land using our state esaements fishing for fish we stocked on a river we clean ..... I want you fishing next to me and you do have every right too but when I go to PA to hunt or fish I say thank you and keep in mind I am a quest in that state"
sorry pal don't look like i blamed anyone i did say show some respect and manors ....... and i am tired of the language the trash and PA plates in handicapped areas and healthy people jumping in ........and again if a child was assaulted why wasn't the law called ....and if you don't want to name someone just insinuate then why did you even bring it up .....
and with over 50 years of fishing salmon river i still have never gotten in a fight ...you people need to learn how to get along lol
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OH! BOY! No peace around these boards! :-\
That's the truth Phil ,, doesn't seem to be as much fun the last couple of years ,do you think the percentage rule is in affect ?
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Trapp I think we are both saying the same thing but in different ways. I agree with you about the crap that goes on but it is not just PA guys, that is all I was trying to get across. and as for calling the police back then cell phones just came out and I did not have one and by he time I got to my truck they were no where to be found. For parking in a handicap spot I am with you 100% as as of this past year I am now handicapped do to spine damage so I take that matter to heart even though I try not to use a handicap spot unless I have to and for the language I understand where your coming from but hear it on other water ways to. This is a sign of no respect as a lot of times kids are around. and for being a guest we all are unless we own the land and we should respect it whether state owned or not, that is why I helped the land owner clean up the property as it was not his mess but my fellow sportsman's.
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fish i think so .... i think 99 % of the problems then and today are lack of ethics and respect and ethics isn't that trout unlimited C&R crap ...ethics is doing the right thing ! and yup some people that live here are pigs too ...difference now days is a lot fewer locales fishing the river and the problems start with the sept season .....i don't care if you snag a salmon ...i hope ya get a bunch i really do ..... just show respect to the people that live here ..... and i'm serious i had a guy from jersey park in the wheelchair area of handicap parking and when i said something he said well i drove 8 hours i needed a licsence...... well my wife needed to get her medicine ..... that's not all fisherman and that's not ALL NON RESIDANCE , but it leaves a bad image of all ......walking on linare park in Oswego drunk and beers in hand screaming profanity .... i have my 4 year old grand son walking with me ..... leaves a bad impression ....and it's a black eye for all sportsman i use to say bullhead fisherman were the dirtest fisherman in the world ...nope it's salmon fisherman ...and your out of state licence doesn't cover it my Oswego land taxes does in Oswego it's a city park!..... guess fish we are on the same page of music we want all fisherman to act with some respect and to at least try to be human beings ......even salmon fisherman
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And just for info I only had 30 yrs of fishing there .
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i was fishing salmon river before salmon ...was a great trout stream back when i was a youngster always a good small mouth stream......
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We seam to be on the same page and I live in new york only 15 min. for the river. But I understand your frustration and that is why I do not fish there any more, and yes I see the same thing at Oswego and Oneida all the time. Loved the smallies back in the days would go up in the summer just to have fun with them.
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shhhhhhhhhhhhh we still do ;D we got room for ya you know
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Would love to but physically unable to do it now a days. Maybe some day in the future.
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Walked out back on Sunday after the river went up and it was beautiful to see no one down there...not as beautiful as 185 cfs late June though ;)
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That's the truth Phil ,, doesn't seem to be as much fun the last couple of years ,do you think the percentage rule is in affect ?
:rotflol: :rotflol: :w00t: :unsure: :blink: :angel:
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Would love to but physically unable to do it now a days. Maybe some day in the future.
you got it man
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Lots of true words spoken here. I too have seen locals that were real buttholes, and they treat out of staters bad. There should be no entitlement for anyone. By the numbers though, if 90% of the people on the river are not ''locals'' , 90% of the buttholes are not going to be ''locals''. It's just how it is.
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I used to fish the SR back in the mid 90's to around 2005, mostly for steelhead in November and December. I heard I was fishing during the lean years. The first time I fished it in 1995 we stayed at the Last Cast and you could set your watch by the morning runs of steel and folks were catching lakers in the LFZ. I fished it once in mid October for salmon and that was probably the last time I would ever do that, too crowded and too much blatant snagging of everything. The buddy I fished with started fishing back in the 80's and said the behavior then was bad.
I never had much of any attitudes from anyone in the years I fished it except from a fellow fly fisher. I happened to be fishing the Bovines and landed a steelhead, roped him, left him in the water to stay fresh/alive. This was the only fish I have ever taken home. I fished for maybe an hour longer and had to get on the road. I was carting my still alive fish up the steep bank and once up top, he came over and started asking me with a very bad tone why the fish was still alive, etc, etc. Basically harassing me. I hadn't had the time to find a big stick to knock it on it's head. I even met the infamous Pat Mahoney down in the Bovines and he was nice enough to tell what they were biting on and gave me a few flies when he saw me again down there.
I would probably fish it again, I know several fly fisherman from Vermont that go there all the time. When the are gone, the spots around here free up :D
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Its funny, I never ever got crap from the locals, but I've had a few incidents with Jersey pursits, and this one time in Orwell a group of big dudes from CT strong armed us out of the hole we were fishing since first light...when they weren't looking someone might have peed in their coffee cups. Brown trout tribs are WAY WAY worse though.
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Lots of discussion here. Anyone catching fish ???
Rg
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and this one time in Orwell a group of big dudes from CT strong armed us out of the hole we were fishing since first light...
awh, hey,
don't drag us into this mess now,
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gee this one got strong armed out of a fishing spot someone got yelled at for a fish live on a rope ....=)) not the most manly bunch are yas :w00t:
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Too funny trap...lol!!! Some folks just don't think the argument is worth the Hassel I think. I always keep my fish alive. Even manage to do so in august. I always get a kick out of the heart still beating once its fileted :D. As for strong armed out of a spot, a stream side brawl is not worth anything to some folks.
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Lots of discussion here. Anyone catching fish ???
Rg
Yes lots of fish Friday and then a big 0-3 today....🐟🐟🐟🎣🎣🎣
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A good buddy of mine said there were some tickets handed out in the last few days , for all kinds of things , plus a few warnings
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crappies are loaded in the sportsmen hole ...... :whistling:
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A good buddy of mine said there were some tickets handed out in the last few days , for all kinds of things , plus a few warnings
If the violations are legitimate that is great news! All this talk of fishing might make me have to cross the northern county line for a poke or two :)
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If the violations are legitimate that is great news! All this talk of fishing might make me have to cross the northern county line for a poke or two :)
The person that gave me the Info is solid
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The person that gave me the Info is solid
Good deal!! Wasn't doubting you Freddy, was referring to the severity of the violations. I'm sure this current weekend and next are their last round up for tickets being issued on the river. Hope we get some moderate rain to keep the level higher than 750 for next weekend
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Haven't seen any pics Lately , so go-get-m dime bright
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Missed the chance, rain coming will probably mess it back up. Couldn't resist this dry weather for getting stuff done outside though. River is blowing right now. Barely anyone fishing this afternoon
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River flow reports river at 3500. That can't be good ( or safe) for fishing ??? ???
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gee this one got strong armed out of a fishing spot someone got yelled at for a fish live on a rope ....=)) not the most manly bunch are yas :w00t:
...Sounds like the time i got told by Malindas 80 year old "boyfriend" That he wasnt going to talk to me any more because i kept steelhead :cookoo: Made it a point the next time i fished, to keep a 10 pound Female cause i needed eggs. :thumbup_smilie:
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read 4 pages of comments, theres no locals versus imports or fish heads, that's what the locals still call me after 22 yrs of living here, no locals fish the river, locals fished native trout, ponds, bullhead fish, or bass, in 22 yrs of living here, I know very few locals who fish salmon or steel, were all from out of town.
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I been fishing steelhead last 2 weeks in high water, everyone I've fished near or talked too has been nice and friendly, sounds like a low water thing or everyone is just blowing things out of proportion too me. peak salmon weekends and a few peak steelhead weekends it gets crowded but over all rivers been pretty nice last 6 months, I've had a great time, guess its how you look at life, glass half full or glass half empty.
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Trap, fished the zone since it opened. In my opinion its uglier than ever. But maybe that's just my mind playing tricks on me. Ya know, when chuck and duck first came about (it was not called that back in the day) it was an honest attempt to catch winter steelhead. This slash and thrash tactic up in the zone is pretty gross though. But yes, it is a put and take fishery. You are 100% right. This is the first year I've ever seen the hatchery closed to the public, and the most dead steelhead I've ever seen and heard of. I just hope that "we" haven't gone past our means and "taken" too much from what's been "put"...
simple answer too that, everyone switched two 2 handed fly rods whether switch rods or spey, both extreme line ripping for next cast on both rods, anything is in its way.... its getting hooked.
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Last week drove up north and took some northern light shots.
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Even got one in Altmar.
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took a few shots of steelhead as well last week or so.
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Good reads snag!! I called you other day it was a bonanza for a day ! On another note I watched fly zones for a hour after a good eat in Altmar and like he and I said anything in the lines way gets hooked !! I watched fish just sit there holding in some slower water and a Spey guy just flossed the whole pool till it got to the fish I was watching and guess what folks there mouths didn't open for the offering !!! But fish on at the end of his drift cmon! How many fish are gonna get ripped an flossed over and over !? But them some people say how many fish are gonna get caught elsewhere over and over? Every one nows the fish up there are on gravel and majority of fish stage there and winter there in the zones !! Close that nuts or open it to the rest of us cause that's not fishing anymore up there everyone has adapted there fly technique to snatch not catch fish now rant over ..bring on the debates I'm listening :P :w00t: :w00t:
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Sweet pics snag!!!!!lots of fish up in raceway nice to see other day
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Lol!!!! :wacko: :whistling: :unsure: :sleep1: :w00t: :wacko: :wacko:
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I fished that day monic, but didn't get your call til later, you ready for the "Big Drop" ? its coming.
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I was just busting your b alls I took that picture down, funny though. ;D Was crowded that day, me and the sea gulls.
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I'm ready just don't now what day to come yet .. I got some scouts fishing from runamuck tmrw so will see....
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WASSSSSUP Shane!! Great pics! I saw that one of the steelhead jumping on news channel 9 pic of the day. You almost ready for the Waldos
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Great pics Shane. Saw a couple of them on channel 9 as well.
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oh the drop back days are coming ;D
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sounds like a low water thing
Snag I think you pinned the tail on the donkey with this one...what's quite ironic is out on the west coast where steelhead are wild/native, it is most common to fish for them when the water is big and green...
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simple answer too that, everyone switched two 2 handed fly rods whether switch rods or spey, both extreme line ripping for next cast on both rods, anything is in its way.... its getting hooked.
The sad part of this reality is two handed and spey tactics are traditionally done with NO weight... And it is very common for the fish to strike at the end of the drift while fly is just below surface film or in upper quarter of water column. The slash and thrash cannon ball roll that a lot of folks do up there is a disgrace to fly fishing
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Wish I was able to be there Sat. Water is going down to 750. It will be unreal fishing I think.
kc
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Nice fish guys ,
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Wow.. Nice job LH.... And Jr.... :clapping: :clapping:
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Umm.....it's LH!.... ;D
Thanks Dom and Freddie! 8)
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Nice job boys!! 8)
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Wow. Great job! ;D
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Well done guys!
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Very nice KP and Jr.
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Nice fish, Kingperch!! Mexico Bay, from the looks of it? I'll be out there next week ... leave some for me!
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Nice fish kp!
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nice job KP and Jr. :thumbup_smilie:
(I fished off the salmon river to catfish in a friends boat yesterday and we had a good morning . A mixed bag of a bunch of browns ,no big ones,...a nice steelhead, and a big smallmouth. None of the browns were as big as the ones you guy's got...nice job.)
Rivers fishing good ,lakes fishing good...great time of year! Walleyes hopefully biting good this week -end!
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Thanks guys! 8)
Timdog, you on the river at all? ::)
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Thanks guys! 8)
Timdog, you on the river at all? ::)
Kp,
Between watching my son play baseball for OCC and Panfishing , i haven't had the urge to get up there ...looks like i'm missing some good fishing
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Maybe Jr and I will see you in the fall bud! 8)
Good luck to your son and the OCC TEAM!
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d**n what a team! Nice job guys.
Rg
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Umm.....it's LH!.... ;DThanks Dom and Freddie! 8)
??? ??? ??? ??? ::) ;D
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Wow.. Nice job LH.... And Jr.... :clapping: :clapping:
nice repair job bud! :P
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OK Shane what is your prediction for the first salmon caught in the river this year? Above the DSR.
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hard to say not knowing about rain ...i'll guess aug. 18 just above the black hole
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OK Shane what is your prediction for the first salmon caught in the river this year? Above the DSR.
The Main run should be late again like last year, but theres a few more wild fish around this year then last year so a couple very late August fish could happen, but I think the first minor run will hold off til September 5th, the labor day weekend water release.
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I will be on my way to Alaska by then. Will have to wait till I get home.
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The Main run should be late again like last year, but theres a few more wild fish around this year then last year so a couple very late August fish could happen, but I think the first minor run will hold off til September 5th, the labor day weekend water release.
keep us posted,
it's getting close, soon
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Is there any water in the river? I know the tug got a few thunderstorms last night but I dont think they amounted to much?
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Jr and I fished the Redfield Res today.....really low.....😨
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Kp, not good!!! Rivers gonna get hot with this ten day streak in the 80's. Spring trickles are drying up left and right as well.
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Your right.....all of the bigger areas of standing water and smaller feeder streams are almost dried up. Man, we need a good soaking of rain. :-\
The only HOT I wanna see on the river is......a HOT run of salmon and steelhead! ;D
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For some reason i dont have very good luck on that river...and do we ever need some rain..forcast says high 90s for a while...
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Stick with this thread leading into and, during the salmon season. Some pretty good info given out by SNAGGER and the gang. 8)
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http://unofficialnetworks.com/2014/08/farmers-almanac-2015-winter-prediction-forecast (http://unofficialnetworks.com/2014/08/farmers-almanac-2015-winter-prediction-forecast)
Thought I'd share this with Shane......looks like laker season is game on!😈
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You may want to check those dates.
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But will say they were spot on
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I have a question. Please don't laugh I really don't know. what do you use for bait/ lures for salmon fishing. I have never fished for salmon. I live less then an hour from pulaski. I have never gone. don't even know where to start. any help would be useful. Jigs, spinners, live bait??
thanks
jim
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Estaz egg flies, Jensen rubber eggs, skein, egg sacks or the enfamous black sponge. I generally use rubber eggs because they are cheap and easy to carry, but each has their time and place.
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I have a question. Please don't laugh I really don't know. what do you use for bait/ lures for salmon fishing. I have never fished for salmon. I live less then an hour from pulaski. I have never gone. don't even know where to start. any help would be useful. Jigs, spinners, live bait??
thanks
jim
You should also check out the regs for the salmon river prior to fishing it. Such as, if you use spinners you can only have one hook, etc.
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Good info from the prior posts Jim! Keep checking in on here....when a run of salmon starts, head to the river and watch what other anglers are doing and using. You should get educated pretty quick that way. Salmon and steelhead fishing is a blast! Good luck!
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Thank you everyone. I'll be honest I've never heard of the sponge thing before ever. I think Kingperch has an excellent idea of heading out to watch. I'm not far at all and that is probably the best way to learrn. Thanks again.
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jimp a lot of us guys grew up chasing salmon and steelhead I'm sure you'd be more then welcome to come on down when we hit the river and we'll give ya a lesson or two ..... I know your welcome to come down when I'm there
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^^^^^^ X2 what trapper said, most guys ( you will be able to spot the ones that will not) will be more than willing to show you the ropes while on the river.
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Trapper and lunchbox,
thank you very much. I grew up on the St Lawrence fishing perch, pike, smallmouth. this isn't something we fished for as kids. It's very foreign to me.
thank you,
Jim P
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For some reason i dont have very good luck on that river...and do we ever need some rain..forcast says high 90s for a while...
Hey Big Guy. you mean there's actually a place where the fish don't bite for you? LOL ;D ;D ;D
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Thanks to Trapper for offering for jimp to fish along side of us. I guess that's what I meant when I posted....shoulda been a bit clearer!
Any salmon in the river yet? Lol!
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Any salmon in the river yet? Lol!
BAHAHA... :P
You beat me to the question of the season by 20 minuets... ::) ::)
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I can catch carp right here. Any smallmouth in the river ???
Rg
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There's some smallies in the river. Very low and, very warm water right now Bob! Josh has been down there a few times and, did pretty well!
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BAHAHA... :P
You beat me to the question of the season by 20 minuets... ::) ::)
lol! I couldn't resist! :P
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you shouldn't have to wait long....there is some rain coming...
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2 days of strong east winds flipped the lake over and we got 1.70 inches of rain last night, could be a few kicking around Saturday... Last nights rain just saved our labor day weekend, now we got enough water up there for the release.
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Man, we needed that rain and, more. Looking forward to fishing the river again!
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Hey everybody, this is my first post but I've been reading here for the last year or so. I just wanted to ask all the centerpin fisherman out there what size rod and reel you were all using? Normally I take the fly rod but looking to try something new with my nephew this year.
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Hey guys,
Tell me, is there any truth to this.
Just got sent a message from a friend who states that there is a facebook post out there claiming that after last nights rain, there are eels swimming on the streets of Pulaski. Said there has been a strong eel run this year.
I know that Ontario used to have one hell of an eel fishery, I don't deny that, but it's been hurt like so many other fisheries. Is it really so good that eels got flushed out of the salmon onto the street???
I'm a filthy Pocono eel fisherman, its what I do. Actually headin out tonite to Stroudsburg to set up a few trot lines and speed up the end of eel season. It's just been a frustrating year to say the least, so when you hear these sort of crazy statements, its just gets you frustrated and intrigued all at the same time.
I'd pay for a picture and volunteer my time to clean up efforts. But just knowing if its true or not would suffice over the interweb. Thanx in advance guys, me and my pack are planning on coming up next weekend to keep up the tradition of August salmon with plan B being swim with the sheep in Oswego. Enjoy guys, reading along with the rest.
Dr. JM
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Don't believe everything you read , I am just old enough to remember the eel boats
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No eels that I heard of!
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Hey guys,
Tell me, is there any truth to this.
Just got sent a message from a friend who states that there is a facebook post out there claiming that after last nights rain, there are eels swimming on the streets of Pulaski. Said there has been a strong eel run this year.
I know that Ontario used to have one hell of an eel fishery, I don't deny that, but it's been hurt like so many other fisheries. Is it really so good that eels got flushed out of the salmon onto the street???
I'm a filthy Pocono eel fisherman, its what I do. Actually headin out tonite to Stroudsburg to set up a few trot lines and speed up the end of eel season. It's just been a frustrating year to say the least, so when you hear these sort of crazy statements, its just gets you frustrated and intrigued all at the same time.
I'd pay for a picture and volunteer my time to clean up efforts. But just knowing if its true or not would suffice over the interweb. Thanx in advance guys, me and my pack are planning on coming up next weekend to keep up the tradition of August salmon with plan B being swim with the sheep in Oswego. Enjoy guys, reading along with the rest.
Dr. JM
I haven't heard fof any eels being caught on the Salmon river recently, but I have a friend who has a NYstate licensed eel rack (weir) and smokehouse on the east branch of the Delaware upriver of Hancock...I was there last week and they have started running pretty good.... last wed.40 and following day 60 fish(eels) ....should be running down your way in Stroudsburg soon too .....good luck and have fun.
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I haven't heard fof any eels being caught on the Salmon river recently, but I have a friend who has a NYstate licensed eel rack (weir) and smokehouse on the east branch of the Delaware upriver of Hancock...I was there last week and they have started running pretty good.... last wed.40 and following day 60 fish(eels) ....should be running down your way in Stroudsburg soon too .....good luck and have fun.
Choo Choo, is that the guy that's on TV that catches the eels and puts them in the smoker? It's gotta be! I think the show is called filthy riches. I enjoy watching that guy
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Hey everybody, this is my first post but I've been reading here for the last year or so. I just wanted to ask all the centerpin fisherman out there what size rod and reel you were all using? Normally I take the fly rod but looking to try something new with my nephew this year.
I run a 13' and a 13'6" rod and anywhere from 4" to 5" reels will get the job done nicely. I have a 13'6" custom built rainshadow rod and I run a kingpin imperial (4 3/8" I believe) also a 13' St. Croix Avid with a Riverkeeper frogwater reel ( also pretty close to 4.5"). Hope that helps.
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Choo Choo, is that the guy that's on TV that catches the eels and puts them in the smoker? It's gotta be! I think the show is called filthy riches. I enjoy watching that guy
Yup, that's Ray. He's been catching eels for a long time....he's quite a character. They are going to do 5 more episodes this year...I don't get that channel, but will try to see it sometime....funny that he is on tv with those slimy eels.
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Weren't/aren't the eels an invasive species that they are trying to wipe out? Lampreys, right? Used to see fish with big holes bitten out of their sides.
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The eels that are caught in hancock are American eels (I believe) not lamprey eels. Although I have heard that people do eat lamprey eels. :sick: :sick: :sick:
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Filet gave good advice in saying don't believe everything you read :D. The water is low and no where's near the streets and no word of any eels... Haven't seen any myself
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From a google search:
Differences between Sea lamprey and American eels o Sea lamprey are cartilaginous fish, eels are bony fish.
Sea lamprey have a disk-like mouth, eels have a hinged jaw.
Sea lamprey have breathing holes, eels have gills and a gill cover.
Sea lamprey have no pectoral (side) fins, eels have one pair.
Sea lamprey have two fins on their backs, eels have one fin extending from the back around the tail to the stomach.
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American eels do not attach on and kill fish like the lampreys do.
American eels live in fresh water, then migrate Downstream to the ocean to spawn in saltwater.....lamprey eels migrate up freshwater streams to spawn in freshwater.
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My grandma use to make the best Anguilla around.. She made it 3 different ways... Baked, fried and cooked in gravy for a full day...
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I used to trade a Ukranian lady eels for her home made Slivovitz. It was back in the early 80's. Man....what a deal. Had to be 100 proof.
Rg
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After I would skin and chunk them up, my mom used to par-boil then bread and fry them. Tasted like scallops.
The biggest eel I ever saw was in the Poultney River above the dam, probably 45 years ago. My brother and I were fishing one night. Just after dusk he hooked what we both thought was a huge trout. I jumped down over the bank to help him land it. Just as he finally got it close enough for me to belly and hook-shot it up the bank, it came out of the water with its mouth wide open. Might as well have been a Kraken! I jumped back up the bank in one bound! I'd seen plenty of eels, but that thing was huge. We eventually broke it off, but it was better than 6 ft long with a 5" or better girth. I kid you not. The bend never came out of that old bamboo rod! 8)
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Almost labor day and we are talking about eels!
:unsure:
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Almost labor day and we are talking about eels!
:unsure:
We could talk about the report yesterday from the DSR. Things are starting to pick up. ;D ;D
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Fished the staircase this morning from sunup to 9 and hooked one small coho and saw one other salmon.
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Got my first Salmon of the year today, I've fished 4 straight days in a row and today was the first fish I've seen this year, saw 10 hooked 3 landed this one, its a start.
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Great pic homey! Looks like some warm weather coming this week.
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Nice one to start the season Shane..... :clapping: :thumbup_smilie:
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That fish had no chance after 4 days of no fish!😈 Lol! Great job bud!😎
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just came back from ball park .... seen 6 ....hooked 4 ....landed 2, also seen 5 others on by other anglers....real good numbers moving while I was there, multiple people told me port is loading up, lots of fish jumping down there, big jimmy said lots of fish out of temp shallow in front of the river.. a run is getting ready too happen boys, Monday nights raise too 335 could do it.
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Tonight's salmon
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Nice job Shaner
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Nice job brotha! Gotta love those august salmon :afro:
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Nice!😲
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WOW.. Thats a pig for this early. Isn't it?
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Hit Pulaski again for a couple hours on my way back from Oswego, no hook ups today for me, but seen a few by others, guys had them on ropes by the time I got there today., I missed it by an hour.. Heres a nice one my friend Mike got.
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WOW.. Thats a pig for this early. Isn't it?
in a normal year it would be normal, but after the two back too back crazy ice coverage winters Ontario had , and lagging cold water in spring... its amazing really, 25 lber. many others are thin though, there running in that 16-18lb range, heres another one from yesterday. a lot this size.
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Well snag makes dragging much easier , as long as there are some fish to catch all is well
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Got me thinking a trip to the river is in order! ;D
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Hit rt 3 on way back from doctors today, those fish that were in the port yesterday were missing today, dsr report said everyone hooked fish today, water goes up tonight, could be some action at ball park again tomorrow.
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4th day and more salmon in the River, that pod we seen in the estuary 2 days ago is moving threw the River now , alot harder landing them today in higher flows, this pod has some healthy lookin fish 22 and 23lbs.... still cloudy and cool, wheres this heat everyone is talking about? 71 degrees at 1pm.
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Don't even tell me you are planning to eat that rotting meat Snagger.
Gotta be garden fertilizer and even then I would balk.
I can see saving the eggs for steelhead, etc. in the river over the Fall and Winter, but eating those things after they turn black and start heading up the rivers to spawn.
:sick:
Even in the spring in the colder waters I always had trouble eating them.
Grilled, baked, smoked, they all tasted way too oily when compared to fresh salmon bought at the market from the North Atlantic or Pacific NW.
Love salmon on the grill.
But the stuff I caught for 20 years out of Lake O never got me going.
And when I see guys filleting the spawners it brings back that gut wrenching smell they had every time.
Tell me aren't going to eat that............please!!!
Otherwise, nice fish and glad you're getting them.
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Don't even tell me you are planning to eat that rotting meat Snagger.
Gotta be garden fertilizer and even then I would balk.
I can see saving the eggs for steelhead, etc. in the river over the Fall and Winter, but eating those things after they turn black and start heading up the rivers to spawn.
:sick:
Even in the spring in the colder waters I always had trouble eating them.
Grilled, baked, smoked, they all tasted way too oily when compared to fresh salmon bought at the market from the North Atlantic or Pacific NW.
Love salmon on the grill.
But the stuff I caught for 20 years out of Lake O never got me going.
And when I see guys filleting the spawners it brings back that gut wrenching smell they had every time.
Tell me aren't going to eat that............please!!!
Otherwise, nice fish and glad you're getting them.
Those are actually some of the nicest filets I've seen. Great color. I've never had an issue eating the salmon out of those rivers. Tastes great to me
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Those are actually some of the nicest filets I've seen. Great color. I've never had an issue eating the salmon out of those rivers. Tastes great to me
Next time try bleeding the fish by cutting the gills. They will taste much better and the fillets and eggs won't have blood in them.
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Don't even tell me you are planning to eat that rotting meat Snagger.
Gotta be garden fertilizer and even then I would balk.
I can see saving the eggs for steelhead, etc. in the river over the Fall and Winter, but eating those things after they turn black and start heading up the rivers to spawn.
:sick:
Even in the spring in the colder waters I always had trouble eating them.
Grilled, baked, smoked, they all tasted way too oily when compared to fresh salmon bought at the market from the North Atlantic or Pacific NW.
Love salmon on the grill.
But the stuff I caught for 20 years out of Lake O never got me going.
And when I see guys filleting the spawners it brings back that gut wrenching smell they had every time.
Tell me aren't going to eat that............please!!!
Otherwise, nice fish and glad you're getting them.
;D ;D ;D ;D
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the salmon you buy if wild run and not farmed are caught in streams turning black also .....I'm not a big fan of salmon but i'll eat it smoke it up ;D
and those are super clean fish and nice looking fillets ...it hits me as strange as sportsman we belittle any fishermans catch and what he likes as table fair not to mention snagger makes apart of his living cleaning fish ......
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This is the "I" "me" "mine" generation trap :D if someone does or likes differently from another's way its considered taboo!!!
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Settle down Trap.
Untie your shorts.
I know what Snagger does.
My son Jeff converses with him here and there.
I was simply bustin his jimmies.
But I did go back and reread my post and thought it sounded like you said it did.
Sorry for that.
I still think freshwater salmon tastes like crap compared to the stuff that spent its life in saltwater.
Even 1st or 2nd year stuff caught in the spring out in the lake.
Also never could stand the stink of spawning black rotting salmon.
Made me gag.
And I spent 9 years working on an ambulance where I saw and smelled things that didn't effect me as bad.
Carry on.
8)
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I still think freshwater salmon tastes like crap compared to the stuff that spent its life in saltwater.
Personally I think all salmon tastes like crap!!!
Even fresh out of the salt.
I've had fresh Alaskan salmon still twitchin' when filleted and still didn't like it.
I would much rather have Halibut and rock fish out of the salt and burbot and arctic lakers out of fresh water. ;)
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Attack
Have you ever looked at the packages of wild caught Alaskan Salmon. It is all processed by the Chinese. With the way things are going they are not going to have to tell us where any of our food was raised or processed.
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Have to say, if the salmon are still lake bright in the river my pallet has no problem eating them. Desliming and bleeding is a staple for me though. Also prefer keeping the gutted fish on ice for at least 12 hours before taking the knife to it. Wild Atlantic filets are almost unheard of in the grocery, and who knows if you're really getting wild pacific even when its marked "wild" in the grocery store. Food is just like music, its subjective rather than objective... Either you like it or you don't ;D
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Attack
Have you ever looked at the packages of wild caught Alaskan Salmon. It is all processed by the Chinese. With the way things are going they are not going to have to tell us where any of our food was raised or processed.
I don't buy that and that's not what I was speaking about Tom.
I buy the fresh from either the local large supermarket or from a local seafood supplier.
Not to say that it wasn't also caught by a Chinese fishing boat though.
Look, I fished trout and salmon in Lake O from 1977 until 1998.
Fished the derbies and probably averaged 2-3 days a week.
I have a large 3-ring binder packed with photos of large trout and salmonids from that lake that we caught.
There weren't many private boats that fished out there as much as I did.
There was a fair share of the charter captains in both Wilson and Olcott that I could call friends.
Many of which would constantly bug me about why I wasn't chartering I was out there so much.
This past spring I even did a little early spring trolling for browns.
I caught and cleaned hundreds, if not thousands, of pounds of those fish over the years.
I bled the fish.
I iced the fish.
I cut the belly fat out.
I steaked it.
I filleted it.
I ground it up for patties.
Everything.
I baked it.
Poached it.
In a casserole.
Fried it.
Grilled it.
Pickled it.
Smoked it.
Even sushi once.
I finally decided I did not like it.
And my family felt the same.
So we don't keep them anymore.
We release them so you guys can eat them.
(No thanks are required ;D)
But, again, we eat fresh salmon from the stores and restaurants and we love it.
Is it all in our heads.
Of course!!!
That's where my taste buds are.
You guys keep eating it if you like it.
And good for you because they only die in a few years anyway.
Except for lakers, but that's an entirely different story.
We don't like Great Lakes trout and salmon and won't even try them ever again.
We eat perch, silverbass, bullhead and walleyes out of Erie and Ontario.
Even a small catfish here and there caught from the Catt.
As always.............YMMV.
Thanks for reading.
Mac
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Bubba Gump don't like his salmon. :'( We get it.
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Bubba don't like his salmon. :'( We get it.
Im not convinced yet! :w00t:
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Now children. Enough bickering about what tastes good and what doesn't. I don't like peas and brussel sprouts but I just choose not to eat them, one man's trash is another man's delicacy. Kinda like all those great Eastern Europeans we all see down at the creek taking pounds and pounds of salmon eggs. Just a hint, they aren't tying those into sacs. They love them, but to me its the most vile disgusting thing ever but to each his own lol. Let's get the river topic back to just that, river fishing. My buddy and I will probably be heading up late Sunday night to fish all day Monday, hoping to hook into a few with the water level going up. Any suggestions on spots that might be holding pods of fish would be really appreciated. If I don't hear otherwise I think we will probably start down at the black hole, always had our best luck down their during early season just gotta stay away from the "tight liners" lol
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Now children. Enough bickering about what tastes good and what doesn't. I don't like peas and brussel sprouts but I just choose not to eat them, one man's trash is another man's delicacy. Kinda like all those great Eastern Europeans we all see down at the creek taking pounds and pounds of salmon eggs. Just a hint, they aren't tying those into sacs. They love them, but to me its the most vile disgusting thing ever but to each his own lol. Let's get the river topic back to just that, river fishing. My buddy and I will probably be heading up late Sunday night to fish all day Monday, hoping to hook into a few with the water level going up. Any suggestions on spots that might be holding pods of fish would be really appreciated. If I don't hear otherwise I think we will probably start down at the black hole, always had our best luck down their during early season just gotta stay away from the "tight liners" lol
there
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Why don't you save the gas and toll money and come out with me for some eyes instead, spawn of Mac.
Can't eat those fish up there anyway.
:rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
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I need to feel the pull and hear the line scream of a king, sorry. More than welcome to join us, I think Andys dad might come too, I have lots of extra waders and its supposed to be real warm so no cold feet ;)
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Right now just a pair korkers or some type of wading shoes are all one needs for a while , to hot for waders just IMO. , far as salmon I like it smoked is all ,but everyone has different taste is all , but walleyes and perch and blue hills are at the top of my list ,
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I need to feel the pull and hear the line scream of a king, sorry. More than welcome to join us, I think Andys dad might come too, I have lots of extra waders and its supposed to be real warm so no cold feet ;)
no thanks
I need to put hours on the Lund.
;D
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Mine will be headed for the smoker :P
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Let me know when your up wire I'll stop over to see us
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Right now just a pair korkers or some type of wading shoes are all one needs for a while , to hot for waders just IMO. , far as salmon I like it smoked is all ,but everyone has different taste is all , but walleyes and perch and blue hills are at the top of my list ,
Blue hills?
I've had some canned smoked salmon from Alaska that I liked. If the water isn't below 45 degrees I don't keep anything. Then its perch or crappies.
I'll be wet wading up to my woo hoo tomorrow morning.......just like today ;D
By the way, who gave Mac the little blue pill? Sure wound him up ;D
Rg
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Blue hills?
I've had some canned smoked salmon from Alaska that I liked. If the water isn't below 45 degrees I don't keep anything. Then its perch or crappies.
I'll be wet wading up to my woo hoo tomorrow morning.......just like today ;D
By the way, who gave Mac the little blue pill? Sure wound him up ;D
Rg
Omg I'm blaming it on the phone lol blue gills , macs on a roll :o
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Fat thumb syndrome eh? ;D
I feel your pain. Try typing on an iPad with xxl hands.
Rg
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Fat thumb syndrome eh? ;D
I feel your pain. Try typing on an iPad with xxl hands.
Rg
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Try typing with 2 digits missing lol , guess that levels the playing field :o
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so attack stop beating around the bush and tell us exactly how you feel about this subject ..... just to show you no hard feelings I got a couple bags of salmon filets for you
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so attack stop beating around the bush and tell us exactly how you feel about this subject ..... just to show you no hard feelings I got a couple bags of salmon filets for you
:sick:
Thanks Trap.
But.................ah................nope.
but thanks anyway.
Carry on.
Bob................ :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
Mac
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ya ever watch snagger throw cratty cat a piece of raw ?
get your self a nice fresh pink koho fillet and slice it thin, raw,
sushi or sashimi ?
I could make a meal of that right now
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Cratty loves perch too! ;)
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Crattys a beast! Lol
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I'm crattys dealer lol he likes likes my home grown ( catnip ) lol
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Lol that's awesome, best nip in town
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Got my first Salmon of the year today, I've fished 4 straight days in a row and today was the first fish I've seen this year, saw 10 hooked 3 landed this one, its a start.
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Awesome fish, Snag!
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I'm cratties dealer lol he likes likes my home grown ( catnip ) lol
Lmao!
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Been fishing up there since I was at the Griff starting in 86. I have fished a lot of spots on the river but I'm curious. I've been getting my fix by watching a lot of Youtube videos. A lot of the videos taken show a cement tower right on the bank. It looks like it must be near town, but I was wondering. What is it and where is it?
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oops fell a little behind, fished thurs Friday evenings with my buddy rob, Thursday we hooked 18, Friday night we did 20 or better, 2 good nights... today high water slowed the fishin down , heats beginning too take its toll now too. very bad timing for a heat wave, longest streak I've done in a while, fished 11 straight days in a row on the river, been pretty fun.
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Nice job Shane and Rob! Great pics!
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When you comin up Bobby?
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Good going Shane. Looks like a decent run this year. Good to hear. Maybe 1 more trip to troll the big lake for me then done.
Have fun out there!
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Good job boys! 8) Jr and I will be up tomorrow morning Shane!
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Good job Snag and crew! :thumbup_smilie:
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Well done guys
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Nice slammins... ;D ;D :clapping:
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When you comin up Bobby?
Soon hopefully! Wouldn't mind flossin a few sharks ;D
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Soon hopefully! Wouldn't mind flossin a few sharks ;D
Hey they bite ya know ;D
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I think Bobby tosses floss flies
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They like the mint flavored :w00t:
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I heard that Bob , anise oil works so why not mint
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Those fish didn't like anything today. Only saw 3 fish dead on ropes. River water is warm.....rains coming.....that should get them moving. Got to see a bunch of the river rat gang at Shane's and fished with little Dave!
The sponge bloom should be happening real soon! ;D
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if you drift a bead 6 inches off the bottom straight down the center of a run and the fish can't close his mouth ..... ya you get what i'm saying
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Lmao! :rotflol:
That was the only presentation Jr and I didn't try today! You Ol buzzards have all the tricks! Lol!
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give me a week KP and i'll join you 2 for a little fun....that guy attack wants some fish I guess :rotflol:
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give me a week KP and i'll join you 2 for a little fun....that guy attack wants some fish I guess :rotflol:
;D
Did you see my son Jeff and his gang up there this weekend?
Mac
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give me a week KP and i'll join you 2 for a little fun....that guy attack wants some fish I guess :rotflol:
yes sir! Anytime! Attack eats those nasty mudsharks? 😵
Lol!
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That was a waste of time wanted to check the hatchery out on the way to the islands and it's closed for construction.
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Will be my second year up there this year and looking forward to it more than last. Got some good info and techniques on how to fish the river from a bunch of locals hopefully this year I land one out of the river. Hook into a couple but never landed.got two fish fishing the mouth of the river but that was a totally different way of fishing. Looking forward to learning some more this year
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Been fishing up there since I was at the Griff starting in 86. I have fished a lot of spots on the river but I'm curious. I've been getting my fix by watching a lot of Youtube videos. A lot of the videos taken show a cement tower right on the bank. It looks like it must be near town, but I was wondering. What is it and where is it?
looks like it may be between the ballpark and Rt 81?
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looks like it may be between the ballpark and Rt 81?
Which U-tube I would like to watch it
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Been fishing up there since I was at the Griff starting in 86. I have fished a lot of spots on the river but I'm curious. I've been getting my fix by watching a lot of Youtube videos. A lot of the videos taken show a cement tower right on the bank. It looks like it must be near town, but I was wondering. What is it and where is it?
Could be the railroad tressle hole it has a tower close by ;) But what do i know. I don't salmon fish.... because Attack said they taste like crap :w00t:
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Which U-tube I would like to watch it
Me to mister.. ;)
And I will know where to avoid.. ;D ;D
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Me to mister.. ;)
And I will know where to avoid.. ;D ;D
Lol :laugh:
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.... because Attack said they taste like crap :w00t:
try ketchup
8)
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try ketchup
8)
I was wondering when tomatoes going to surface for a flavor enhancer lol
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heres just one of many. The spot doesn't look to be a secret by anymeans...
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Great video. Not to start an argument you can see where those fish were hooked. Looked to me like two spots. Most of it was just upstream of ballpark, but there was also a section the Cemetery Pool in Altmar in the no-kill section...
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not my video but just one I found. I see that cement structure in a lot of videos. Looks like it has a wood rail around it. Just curious as to what it was. I was thinking that was the area of Tops but didn't know. I'm not trying to spot burn but it looks like that ship has sailed...
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There's no secrets anymore don't worry about burning anything
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There's no secrets anymore don't worry about burning anything
Yea...... but that's where all the tasty salmon are caught :w00t: :sick:
https://youtu.be/CVS1UfCfxlU (https://youtu.be/CVS1UfCfxlU)
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Yea...... but that's where all the tasty salmon are caught :w00t: :sick:
https://youtu.be/CVS1UfCfxlU (https://youtu.be/CVS1UfCfxlU)
lol! :rotflol:
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That structure is the upper end of the ball park, the steelies at the end were from the upper end of the lower fly zone... no secrets on that river :)
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Is dawn gone??? Yankee fly tackle looked dark closed down..
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Is dawn gone??? Yankee fly tackle looked dark closed down..
Been for sale by owner for a long time... She seemed to open whenever she felt like it last year. Haven't seen it open yet this year
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Ahh I c..
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Anybody seen fish below the 103 bridge?
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103??? Never heard of it
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I think he meant the rt 3 bridge , but maybe not
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I fished from ball park to altmar yesturday. Not much going on in the rove right now
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Sorry, I did mean the RT #3 bridge...
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Doesn't matter...............I ate all the d**n fish.
8)
Mac
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Doesn't matter...............I ate all the d**n fish.
8)
Mac
With a little Hunts I'm sure ;)
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With a little Hunts I'm sure ;)
http://www.heinz.com/our-food/products/ketchup.aspx (http://www.heinz.com/our-food/products/ketchup.aspx)
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So Mac its Heinz on your poached salmon mmm lol
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Mac's T shirt,
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Rg
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just so i can get the dog to eat it
;D
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I heard Douglaston bought more land this year. A guy on another forum said they purchased the far side of the black hole all the way upstream to the island. He said they tried to fish there Monday I believe, and Douglaston bank walker told them they were trespassing and even showed them some official documentation that they purchased that land. Bad news, we really liked fishing that side, not too many people venture to that side and allowed us to avoid the tight liners while we float fish. The elitists are moving upstream even further
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From what I was told many years ago they owned that side all the way to the small island on the south side , that was back when Fred was the caretaker , but they never really enforced it , there use to be posted signs on the south side , I'm going back maybe 20 or more years ,
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Oh I did not know that. I just assumed their land ended just downstream from the black hole by the signs but I was never 100% sure. We did fish from that side 4 or 5 times in the last 2 or 3 years and usually had done well there. We were never approached by Douglaston officials, a few years back someone fishing next to us told us that the woods behind the river were privately owned but that as long as we were in the river we were OK. Again, he could have been just passing along hearsay (sp?). Just figured I'd pass along what I heard as of this year. I'd hate to see anyone get a ticket but it seems like they just were asked to leave, but I'm sure if it gets to be a problem it will be more strictly enforced
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finally make it up to fish today and caught my first salmon this yr this morning!!!!
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Nice salmon buddy..I haven't been up yet I will b soon .and where you been hiding haven't seen u around all summer.. I typed up some weapons fee up there and Oswego my buddy got some nice eyes up the river yesterday I mite take a trip up Tuesday.I sent ya pm also.
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Jeff if no one complains or you don't see any posters just keep fishing
Nice salmon that's one of the nicer runs on the river , good job
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Yeah they've owned up that back side since I can remember. Guys have been sliding in to coho run since I can remember as well from coho street. They do enforce but it is sporadic since its a far stretch away from any of their head quarters. Some of the guides lock up in there and will call the office if they see someone without a pass though.
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They had control of that run for a while by leasing it . Now I think they own it
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Drove up this morning and didn't see a fish. Very few people fishing, heard about a couple caught at ballpark but that was it. Looked over the bridges at RT3, at 2a and Pineville and didn't see a fish. This is the latest I have seen it without fish with such perfect fishing conditions. Looks like this year is going to be another bad one...
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fished from first light yesterday till close to noon from staircase to just past the bridge didn't see a fish...
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Doesn't matter...............I ate all the d**n fish.
8)
Mac
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finally make it up to fish today and caught my first salmon this yr this morning!!!!
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congrats! i saw you land that, i was just down stream from you in the white tank top. that was the only living fish i saw all day
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You guys are getting me excited with these early run salmon. I'll be up the first of October. Can't be long now before we start seeing a push from the lake
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quite a few salmon moved into the estuary yesterday and this evening.... 8) 8)
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Got the Fillet station up and running today, It was too hot too cut inside til now...after cleaning some salmon I ran out for an hour, I hooked 5, some really nice battles and good jumps with the cooler water... seen quite a few on stringers in one spot that I fished in Pulaski, some quick fun, had a good time..So far its been much better than last season, but I'd still expect an over all poor season due too another hard winter when its all said and done and the first hard steelhead season since before 2007, that will sting, we have been spoiled when it comes too them..
Few from today from guys here.
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Is dawn gone??? Yankee fly tackle looked dark closed down..
she fled new York state in march, shes running from the law I heard.
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nice salmon fishslayer, much better action today then past week, it got better as day went on, tomorrow should be best day of the year.
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Is dawn gone??? Yankee fly tackle looked dark closed down..
There might be a new owner soon....if the deal goes through. There is a sign in the window which says "sale pending".
(I hope the new owners scrape the paint off of "her rock", lol)
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where you been hiding haven't seen u around all summer..
been hiding on my boat behind 2500 watts of hps lights with a bow n arrow in hand 8) didn't do much rod fishing this summer only went for cats few times
thanks all on the pic :thumbup_smilie:
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been hiding on my boat behind 2500 watts of hps lights with a bow n arrow in hand 8) didn't do much rod fishing this summer only went for cats few times
thanks all on the pic :thumbup_smilie:
Truxton eh, I camp for a week in Cuyler every opening week of gun ;D
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and the first hard steelhead season since before 2007, that will sting, we have been spoiled when it comes too them..
Man I hope the you are wrong Shane, but I have a bad feeling about the steelhead numbers too.
We will have a better idea next month how many steel head were lost last fall, winter and this spring from the vitamin B / thiamin issues, gill lice, combined with brutal, tough weather patterns.
They are normally hard to find out in the big lake, but they were really hard to find this year out there.
T
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I fished for four hours yesterday and drove around looking for fish today. Saw one salmon on a rope and caught two browns and thirty or so fallfish. Glad for the browns, but there weren't a lot of salmon around.
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I stopped to watch the action in Pulaski and upriver a few times the last 2 days and saw lot's of hookups at the staircase, both bridges, ball park and clam shed.
Kings , coho's ,a few steel & browns, chubs and a smallie. Didn't see much action way upriver.
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Summer offshore steelhead fishing was poor on the west end to, really slow compared to years past.
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Well today I and KP stopped at 3 spots on the river , short bridge , ball park and the clam shed , talked to 2 guys that floated from 2a to the ball park , they had 3 nice kings , and they said they launched at 5:30 am , saw a mid sized steelhead lost at the short bridge , and 1 foul hooked king at the clam shed by a fly fishermen which he pulled off when he noticed it wasn't in the chops , ,then it was off to get work done at home , Im sure things will pick up
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Im sure it will pick up filet... And id venture to say dome guys on the river had a decrnt morning. I went 1 for 7 on saturday morning. Really cant complain about that. Too many peopke expect fish to be splashing at their feet when they fish the river. Folks just have to forget about the hype and just go fishing. Remember when there was no internet??? People came to fish whether the water was high or low... Cold or hot... To fish... Because that's fishing... This isn't football, its a common pass time sport thrived from inner passion. Just go fishing everyone :)
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Yes sir that's how I look at it also , go fishing have fun , but it's the Internet way these days but some do drive long distances to fish and I do understand about increasing ones odds , we go places ice fishing regardless of the reports , just 2 weeks ago even with very low water conditions coach
And I went stream trout fishing managed to catch a meal , it was tough but fun , I too can remember the days before Internet and cell phones
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I'm sorry, I am not just talking about fishing in less than prime conditions. I have fished here since 1983, lived on Lake ST for five years and Syracuse for ten. I once fished 306 days in a calendar year. I have never seen the fishing as bad as it has been this year or last. I am worried about the fishery. I agree that these fish are worth going through a 7 fish day at a good spot in the third week of September, I just have never seen it this bad. I didn't see a swimming salmon in the last two weekends (both days) in the estuary or from any of the bridges or this year. I realize that if I fished the clam shed or one of the more popular fishing spots I might have seen a few or caught up with the pod that's going through, but I think we have problems with the fishery....
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Salmon numbers seem down some but not as bad as last year. Also the fish seem to be a couple weeks behind. They are still being caught out in the lake on good numbers. Be patient. They will come.
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Fishinfred please don't think I was targeting you. Was just blowing off steam :)
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im sure it will pick up , I don't get to excited I have seen many runs since the beginning that came later , my whole life I've never lived more than 5 min from the river , well doesn't everyone like the easy button , no matter what type of fish it is ;) it is what it is so enjoy what we get , good luck to all
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I went looking for an early steelhead last evening up river a ways....no good. But I had plenty of elbow room!
(want to add that I was watching the action at the key travel and holding spots at each location I mentioned this past weekend, with some guy's having good hook up numbers,.... seems the action was slower overall at less prime locations, according to most others observations)
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Steve I'm not doubting what you saw over the weekend , yesteday at 2 key runs there wasn't much action ,
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well doesn't everyone like the easy button , no matter what type of fish it is ;)
Me Me.. I'm waiting for the easy button... ;D ;D ;D
Maybe next weekend... 8)
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I prefer the "fun" button.
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im surprised not more people did well over the weekend cause I did ( guess u just got know what ur looking at ;D)
I fished sat and sun....on Saturday I hooked around 12 - 15 and landed 1 and seen only a few fish....on Sunday I hooked fish on off all day(25-30) mostly salmon and hooked 8-9 steelys n managed to land one that was 25" and couldn't land a salmon to save my life and seen decent numbers of fish....cant wait to make it back up!!!
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Nice job Slayer...
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Great report slayer! 8)
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Well done fish Slayer , good eye ;D
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Steve I'm not doubting what you saw over the weekend , yesteday at 2 key runs there wasn't much action ,
No problem Fred, I didn't think you or any of the other guy's that know me would question all the fish I saw hooked( not landed).....
I just thought there might have been a few "doubters" out there, so I had to clarify that not all locations were producing hook ups, but certain spots had some good action . 8)
Nice job fishslayer.....you were probably one of the guy's I was watching hook up a bunch of fish! lol :D 8)
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Nice job fishslayer next weekend let's see if u can keep up with me buddy were pretty even on the ice I'm pretty sure we can get it done on the river at least on the river I won't fall in a hole that u drilled :thumbup_smilie: :D :)
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Has any1 ventured to the sandys.
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Zero water flow extremely low
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Couldn't have been too bad over the weekend. My buddy caught the grand slam on Sunday. :clapping: :clapping:
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Couldn't have been too bad over the weekend. My buddy caught the grand slam on Sunday. :clapping: :clapping:
I'm not saying a few didn't sneak up after that rain but as of Monday water level is very low , with that water level there would be no place for them to hide :)
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Couldn't have been too bad over the weekend. My buddy caught the grand slam on Sunday. :clapping: :clapping:
. In the sr. Or the sandys
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So caught or kept a grand slam ?
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Hi guys newbie here, just thought I'd thro it out there that last year myself and a few people I know had tires slashed and Windows broke up north :-[ just thought I'd let people know. It really messed up our weekend.
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No matter where you go there are bad people , and it is sad , I and a few buds have lost things over the years
Welcome peace frog
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Hi guys newbie here, just thought I'd thro it out there that last year myself and a few people I know had tires slashed and Windows broke up north :-[ just thought I'd let people know. It really messed up our weekend.
Sadly this has been a problem the past year or two. I also make 4 hour drive up from ct so we bring everything we need with us. Really try to leave everything of value back at camp or really hide it out of sight. We've been lucky so far. Try to park in clear view of the main road wherever possible
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We were lucky that nothing was lost except for a little bit of time and money, believe me we won't be going back up there again!!! The people up there were just plain rude and nasty. I just don't see the need for a two hander on those little spots.
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So caught or kept a grand slam ?
He never keeps his fish. All were released. Only fished for a half day at that. ;D ;D
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He never keeps his fish. All were released. Only fished for a half day at that. ;D ;D
That's great , so he caught all 5 species , that's great I haven't seen a laker caught in a trib in a long time , , I only did it once and that was back in the early 80s fishing with dick strike some of you old timers might know him
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That's great , so he caught all 5 species , that's great I haven't seen a laker caught in a trib in a long time , , I only did it once and that was back in the early 80s fishing with dick strike some of you old timers might know him
grand slam is 4 different fish . No lakers
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grand slam is 4 different fish . No lakers
, we always called the grand slam with a laker , , back in the day you could keep 5 fish , if one wished to keep any , omg I'm starting to show my age :o
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I remember one year in the early 90's that a bunch of lakers came up the river. Season for them was closed but I saw some go out in backpacks.
And what type of SR thead is this, no one is accusing everyone of snagging fish ;D
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Tree on , Didn't realize anyone accused anyone of snagging , I did report I did see a fly fishermen pulled a salmon off due to being foul hooked was all which was better than fighting the fish to total exhaustion , that was only one of 2 fish I and KP saw hooked while we were spectating in 3 different spots on the river , the other was a med sized steelhead a guy hooked on a egg bag it was a screamer and a jumper , and broke the poor fellow off
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I remember one year in the early 90's that a bunch of lakers came up the river.
I saw a half a dozen caught and a bunch more come up in the early 90's also tree...I landed one nice laker that day about 12 lbs or so at the lower(little) black hole, below the island before that stretch was off limits by DSR posting....my one and only laker I have ever caught in the salmon river.
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How about a super slam....or grand slam and a half...lol.....
King, Coho, Steelhead, Brown , Laker, Atlantic
I fished next to a friend Mark on the Oak Orchard years back around mid/ late October...He Landed Kings, Coho, steelhead, Browns (a king-coho hybrid) KingHo and a bonus( also his first ever) Atlantic and also a 6 lb. walleye....but no laker that day.
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Steve that's awesome
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Steve that's awesome
It was an amazing day Fred...Mark lived right on the Oak, and we would go down in the dark with flashlights, claim our spots, wait for sunrise then fish all day til dark. I did get a picture of the Atlantic that day and the walleye...very memorable day. BTW he caught all those fish on 1 pattern fly that day.
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Going to bring my fly rod up this year. Right now I only have backing on the reel my question is do I put a fly line on or just spool it up with mono?
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Most guys just spool up with mono, seems to be the way to do it eh?
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92-98 showed a lot of lakers with late 97 and (early winter) 98 being the most... Haven't touched one since but had days of lakers only all the way up to far stretches of Altmar. Started calling them fakers... Boot in the current explained their battle at best. But some were as large as mid teens!
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D-B fakers I like that they don't put up much of a struggle , they are much more fun through the ice
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Most guys just spool up with mono, seems to be the way to do it eh?
I'm new at this fly fishing myself. I thought the fly line is for the weight to carry out the hook. If it's only fed with mono, how does the hook cast? In the fly area we are only limited to 1/8th oz weight. If there isn't any fly line to help carry out the hook, how can mono help?
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Tree on , Didn't realize anyone accused anyone of snagging , I did report I did see a fly fishermen pulled a salmon off due to being foul hooked was all which was better than fighting the fish to total exhaustion , that was only one of 2 fish I and KP saw hooked while we were spectating in 3 different spots on the river , the other was a med sized steelhead a guy hooked on a egg bag it was a screamer and a jumper , and broke the poor fellow off
I was being sarcastic. I actually like the tone on this site, no one accusing anyone else of fishing wrong. I use to visit the SC site a few years ago, could not stand it anymore, anytime anyone posted catching a fish they would be accused of snagging it, being the scum of the earth.
As far as the river goes, has the leaf hatch started yet?
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I'm new at this fly fishing myself. I thought the fly line is for the weight to carry out the hook. If it's only fed with mono, how does the hook cast? In the fly area we are only limited to 1/8th oz weight. If there isn't any fly line to help carry out the hook, how can mono help?
The mass, or weight, of the fly line is designed to propel your fly.
If you spool it up with mono only, then you either have to have a seriously weighted fly, or you'll have to attach split shot somewhere along your leader.
Yes, fly zone is limited to 1/8th oz. If you have mono on, then you're not "fly fishing", and can't fish the fly zone anyway.
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The mass, or weight, of the fly line is designed to propel your fly.
If you spool it up with mono only, then you either have to have a seriously weighted fly, or you'll have to attach split shot somewhere along your leader.
Yes, fly zone is limited to 1/8th oz. If you have mono on, then you're not "fly fishing", and can't fish the fly zone anyway.
That's what I thought. Think I'll just leave my fly line on. Then I can use the fly rod anywhere in the river that I want. Thanks
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I'm new at this fly fishing myself. I thought the fly line is for the weight to carry out the hook. If it's only fed with mono, how does the hook cast? In the fly area we are only limited to 1/8th oz weight. If there isn't any fly line to help carry out the hook, how can mono help?
You can use sink tips as opposed to split shot to get the line down deeper in the water column. Also, mending the line can help you in that regard as well but is somewhat dependent upon lower/slower water flows. Do some Google research or talk to your local fly shop about how to use sink tips and other methods to get down in the water column with certain types of presentations.
Welcome from SC land Pliskin!
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Your right tree-on catching fish does some times draw some conflict
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D-B fakers I like that they don't put up much of a struggle , they are much more fun through the ice
I'd love to catch one through ice one day. Know a guy who targets them on George... Also seen the blast you guys had this past winter... Looks like a lot if fun. Maybe one of these days. Back in their hayday of running the river, we used to pick up and leave if we were hooking up with them. Sometimes had stupid numbers of hookups on them. Like ten in an hour all the way til early January at times and as far up as rt. 52
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steelhead are a lot better thru the ice.
Here is Jeff with one I caught in Wilson about 10 years ago.
It was fun.
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It was also cold.
:D
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So Mac do the boys target them (steelhead)and how often are they caught ? We have also caught steelhead through the ice but didn't target them,nice trout Mac , dimebrite you should take the time and give lakers a try
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Steel through ice have to be nuts. Heard of flukes being caught in the pond, did know a guy who said he targeted browns and steel through ice in early season over in fair haven...
Time??? That's the problem filet not enough of it :( I'm banking on giving it a shot this year though
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Might of been new haven... Can't remember
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DB give me a shout when you get some time , I forget I don't pull a 60 hour week anymore , ;)
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Love this video of a jumping steelhead ice fishing. Definitely looks like fun.
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DB give me a shout when you get some time , I forget I don't pull a 60 hour week anymore , ;)
That sounds awesome! Will do. I have no ice gear AT ALL!!! So you've been warned :)
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So Mac do the boys target them (steelhead)and how often are they caught ? We have also caught steelhead through the ice but didn't target them,nice trout Mac , dimebrite you should take the time and give lakers a try
Not really.
We were fishing Wilson Harbor for whatever would bite.
We had a Buddy heater going full blast in the hut that day and a 2 liter bottle of Coke froze solid.
It was stupid cold.
Anything that swims in Lake O could also be in that Harbor.
But we mostly catch gills and perch.
But that steelhead was silly fun.
Tossed it out the hut door and it was frozen solid in maybe 20 minutes.
We were using emeralds for bait.
I would think tipups would be cool for them too.
Especially with the pike in there also.
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Seems like they would be more fun in the river to me.... I'd rather jig up Lakers that I know I will catch in the finger lakes
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Any fish in the port yet? ;D
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Any fish in the port yet? ;D
If they're not there by tomorrow mid day they're not coming!!! ;D
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If they're not there by tomorrow mid day they're not coming!!! ;D
Boy your a ray of sunshine lol
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Rain is on the way. And I am coming up. The fish will be there this weekend :whistling: ;D
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Rain is on the way. And I am coming up. The fish will be there this weekend :whistling: ;D
Kevin your one of the luckiest guys I know to hit things right , good luck bud
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Boy your a ray of sunshine lol
8) 8) 8)
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:P :P :P :P
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Rain is on the way. And I am coming up. The fish will be there this weekend :whistling: ;D
I'll be up this coming weekend too. Really hoping that rain brings em in
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Two days in a row of east wind and a super moon tonight... ::)
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I hope they come by this weekend . I had to cancel coming up today.
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Shane said they were boiling good near the mouth yesterday.
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The DSR is reporting a big push in Estuary today. :clapping: :clapping:
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im coming thursday-sunday, hoping this rain and drop in temp do the trick
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After 3 days of east winds and rain in the forecast, last night I checked the lighthouse bend pool too see what was ready too run, 6-8 at a time jumping whole time I was there, probably a 1000 fish in that pool, got reports of major fish movement in top of estuary this morning, it could be finally on, Tomorrow could be good, tonight too, but not sure how high they'll make it today, maybe staircase..
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Rumor has it not much water in the river and tribs. I was gonna bring my nephew up for his first time. Its a 3 1/2 hour drive so any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!
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Great picture! That's a good sign for the upcoming weekend!
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:thumbup_smilie:
After 3 days of east winds and rain in the forecast, last night I checked the lighthouse bend pool too see what was ready too run, 6-8 at a time jumping whole time I was there, probably a 1000 fish in that pool, got reports of major fish movement in top of estuary this morning, it could be finally on, Tomorrow could be good, tonight too, but not sure how high they'll make it today, maybe staircase..
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:thumbup_smilie: :w00t:
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2" of rain tomorrow and rain all day on Saturday.. ;D ;D
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Finally looks like it may happen!!!
This is a new account for me.....switched companies and my profile was tied to that computer >:( (used to be known as SN.)
Sean
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Rumor has it not much water in the river and tribs. I was gonna bring my nephew up for his first time. Its a 3 1/2 hour drive so any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!
Ice Monkey. PM sent :D :D
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Ice Monkey. PM sent :D :D
Thanks!!!
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Thanks!!!
there should be some water now .....................maybe even a fish or two ..........
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there should be some water now .....................maybe even a fish or two ..........
No doubt!!! Lol
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Does anyone know if there is a website that predicts cfs a few days in advance? I know how to find the current but was wondering if anyone knew where to find like a 5 or 10 day prediction...
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Does anyone know if there is a website that predicts cfs a few days in advance? I know how to find the current but was wondering if anyone knew where to find like a 5 or 10 day prediction...
Its unpredictable. Too much liability for anyone to publicize. Watching weather patterns, watching flow gauges on usgs, checking reservoir level, knowing terrain and river is the only way to predict.
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http://water.weather.gov/ahps/forecasts.php (http://water.weather.gov/ahps/forecasts.php) forecasts for some rivers - accuracy is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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You guys are being quiet about the fishing reports. I hope that's a good sign. I'll see you all tomorrow
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Does anyone know if there is a website that predicts cfs a few days in advance? I know how to find the current but was wondering if anyone knew where to find like a 5 or 10 day prediction...
North East River Forcast
http://www.weather.gov/nerfc/ (http://www.weather.gov/nerfc/)
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Didn't see much on the salmon today. Tried one of the smaller streams with less pressure. My dad ended up landing this monster 22lb 38" coho. Awesome colors on that fish. Don't know if I'll ever see another one like it.
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That is a monster congrats , would make a great mount ,
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That's a beautiful Coho. Nice job.
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That is a monster coho congrats , would make a great mount ,
X2, beautiful fish!
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Trust me. We all tried to talk him into keeping it for a mount. He just really didn't want to spend the money. I would have in a heartbeat if it was my fish
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Have a replica made of it and surprise him with it for xmas
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Great fish... Hope to get into a few, oh say in like 11 1/2 hours... ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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That's a great coho. My first landed coho was a 31" 18 lb'er that looked exactly like that one. My parents had it mounted for me on driftwood as a Christmas present and I named it Gonzo...still one of my favorite mounts.
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Great fish! 8) What a beauty! :thumbup_smilie:
Good luck Dom! Have fun! 8)
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Great looking fish. Could be one of the rarer naturally occurring chin/ho hybrids. Spots on the lower tail suggest that. Incredible looking fish either way. Would make a beautiful mount on any wall !
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Wow nice looking fish
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Nice fish....at least turn the picture into a nicely framed photograph.
icejohn
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Great fish! Congrats to your pops!
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I'm just wondering are these fish Mai ly released or are
They eaten ?
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I'm just wondering are these fish Mai ly released or are
They eaten ?
Maybe, if you see them on a rope = dinner. :P
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Maybe, if you see them on a rope = dinner. :P
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or in a bucket = smoker :thumbup_smilie:
I was up both days over the weekend and landed 2 sat.(thos above) and played with a few others. on sunday
landed one and hooked only few again...did see better numbers of fish just not tons... was a good time on the river :clapping:
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the one on sunday
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Good job slayer! 8)
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hmmmmm not many post in here
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Fished today and saw some fish for a change. Thousands of people though, don't think I have ever seen this many. No fish to speak of in the estuary, but a few fish wherever I went. Not a tenth of the number you would expect for Columbus day, but a few to catch. All the fish are dark though, like they
stayed out longer than usual before running...
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hmmmmm not many post in here
gotta look for the crowds Trap.....that seems to be where the fish are parked. I fished for a few hours today. Saw very few fish where I was.😯 there running a bit late again this year. They'll come.....
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Thankfully that wasn't the case this morning. I had a 200 yard stretch of the estuary to myself this morning and went 1 for 2 with a 35" King. Of course after a boat saw me towing the fish behind my kayak I had 4 boats congregate around me so I headed in around 10. Not a lot of fish around but was a nice morning of fishing.
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There was nothing in the estuary next to the RT 3 bridge, today or yesterday when I looked. Never saw a year like this where there weren't a large group of fish there. I think they must be shooting right up. I have stopped there 10-12 times since Labor day weekend and only seen fish once...
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Wow that's crazy. A guy fishing with his son today told me the hole I was fishing had fish boiling all over the place last night. They must have shot right up into Douglaston during the night. I saw a bunch of fish jumping today here and there and 1 that acted like a bronco because it was trying to shake a lamprey off the entire morning. It was getting some serious air. Would have been great if they stuck around a little longer.
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Anyone know what's with all the No Parking signs that appeared in the last few weeks at Ellis Cove? The state lot doesn't have enough parking spaces for all the cars that go there. Now if the lot is full you either have the option of paying $5 to park at the house across the street or fish elsewhere. Seeing that I only had a couple hours I refused to pay up so opted to go fish somewhere else. The state should consider opening up another lot in that area. :-\ :-\
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Sounds like the land owners might have put some signs up for willing to pay customers. The lot was full on Sunday, all day when my son and I took a trip up that way.
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Sounds like the land owners might have put some signs up for willing to pay customers. The lot was full on Sunday, all day when my son and I took a trip up that way.
Those signs were all up both sides of the road for several hundred yards. Wondering if the state put them up. Talked to a guy who was up 3 weeks ago and he said the signs weren't there when he was there. The state has some real nice size parking lots for other holes and seem to be enough parking for everyone in those areas. Ellis Cove gets way to many people to have such a small lot. :-\ :-\
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Weird , I always thought the no parking signs were there, and hell i been going up there almost weekly(during the runs) for 20+ years.. Shows how much i pay attention... ;D
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the land owner had some bad experiences , not like that hasn't happened up here before , and I'm a life long resident , and I know the owner , use to be lots of unposted property only to be ruined by a few , I'm sure some of you can relate to , don't think I need to go into detail , sad but it happens every where
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5 Bucks is pretty cheap to park dontcha think filet?
Some people think they should get everything free.
Entitlement is killing our country!
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Those signs have been up for at least the last 5 years...
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If you guys are talking about the little dirt lot upstream from the big state lot at Ellis, the no parking signs were gone last year, and I parked there quite a few times. It was getting pretty tore up by the end of November.
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Peddler even though I have lived here my whole life , there are many times I drop the 5 to park , many times land owners over the years have allowed people to park only to have things tore up , leaving them to repair the mess that is left , and pick up the litter left behind , people are their own worst enemy , but that's M.O.
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I noticed this .... every year messes come from bullhead fisherman .... city fisherman hitting public property ....and salmon fisherman ....your never going to change it best you can do is carry a bag and ask a land owner if he needs your help .....people screw themselves
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I noticed this .... every year messes come from bullhead fisherman .... city fisherman hitting public property ....and salmon fisherman ....your never going to change it best you can do is carry a bag and ask a land owner if he needs your help .....people screw themselves
2X that.i always carry a bag,most times i carry out more junk then fish
;D ;D ;D
RAT
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It's not just soft water we carry trash bags when ice fishing to , slobs are everywhere
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It's not just soft water we carry trash bags when ice fishing to , slobs are everywhere
what do you think a slobs home looks LIKE?????
RAT
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Have we decided yet that this was a terrible year for salmon?
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Have we decided yet that this was a terrible year for salmon?
yup
to eat it.
;D
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what do you think a slobs home looks LIKE?????
RAT
Well I hate to think like I might have nightmares :o
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Interesting read but there will always be naysayers:
http://fishoswegoriver.com/fish%20oswego%20river%20blog/why-salmon-feed-during-their-spawning-run-on-great-lakes-tributaries (http://fishoswegoriver.com/fish%20oswego%20river%20blog/why-salmon-feed-during-their-spawning-run-on-great-lakes-tributaries)
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Anybody but me notice how quiet things are now that Dawn isn't around ? :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
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Anybody but me notice how quiet things are now that Dawn isn't around ? :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
yes town pool was a lot calmer..you still had a couple loud mouths but nothing like years past..her mere presence was enough to instigate nuts.
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I went over the bridge the other day and saw some people fishing in her hole. Who would have thought? ;D ;D
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I stood on that bridge one day and, swore I heard her ball washer running!😲 some things we just expect I guess! Lol!
Any salmon in the river? ;D
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Hooked a few salmon in upper river last Sunday.
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Interesting read but there will always be naysayers:
http://fishoswegoriver.com/fish%20oswego%20river%20blog/why-salmon-feed-during-their-spawning-run-on-great-lakes-tributaries (http://fishoswegoriver.com/fish%20oswego%20river%20blog/why-salmon-feed-during-their-spawning-run-on-great-lakes-tributaries)
Never saw any eggs in their bellies, but I have watched them move four feet to crush skein...
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So this is the first year In a while I had to skip comming down for a week of fishing. I miss it..
Anyways, I've been watching this thread for years now and usually chime in once or twice.. but here is my question..
Where are all the pics of fish??? ???
I miss em... who's got em?
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My buddy slammed them yesterday in upper river. Fished half day and had over 30 hookups. Said he got browns, kings, steelhead and co hos. :clapping: :clapping:
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Are you exaggerating again bigal
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Made a trip up to the river last Wednesday morning in the sportsman pool parking area had car damaged also ran into some reel a**hats on the river....did managed to hook up a few times no luch landing any.
After the fun to be had Wednesday I decided to take a tip elsewhere went out to Maxwell yesterday quite a few people fishing was able to play with a few steelies tough with all the timber in the few deep pools to be found really need some more water and got lucky pulled this big male out.
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Nice fish i m heading to maxwells in about 30 minutes I'll let ya know how I do..nice fish I'll post on maxwells creek
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Nice fish i m heading to maxwells in about 30 minutes I'll let ya know how I do..nice fish I'll post on maxwells creek
Don't fall in Big Guy :rotflol: :rotflol:
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I didn't fall in bigal so behave yourself or no hotspots for ice fishing mr
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I didn't fall in bigal so behave yourself or no hotspots for ice fishing mr
:rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
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This rain should bring in more fish & big Browns are showing up.
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SOUNDS GOOD . :thumbup_smilie: I will be there Friday
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be there next weekend
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Happy hunting wired! Not much rain in Pulaski, we had almost 3" down here.
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How's the numbers or steelies in the river? Any real change from the die off? My wny tribs just don't seem to have the number of steelhead as years past
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How's the numbers or steelies in the river? Any real change from the die off? My wny tribs just don't seem to have the number of steelhead as years past
There are fish in the river, but with that said, this is the worst year I've seen in over thirty years on the Salmon and Oswego rivers.
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Never a good thing... Hopefully the brownies will take up some of the slack... Seen good numbers down this way already
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I found a white gold wedding band sitting in the river with date xx-xx-14 and initials inscribed along with some initials.
If you didn't purposely chuck it and can identify the rest of date and initials, PM for its return.
I'd like to find out what your wife had to say after you lost it in less than a year.
PerchEyes
PS, what other forums should I post on to find owner?
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I found a white gold wedding band sitting in the river with date xx-xx-14 and initials inscribed along with some initials.
If you didn't purposely chuck it and can identify the rest of date and initials, PM for its return.
I'd like to find out what your wife had to say after you lost it in less than a year.
PerchEyes
PS, what other forums should I post on to find owner?
E harmony.com! Lol :w00t: :rotflol: jk hope you find the owner
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I found a white gold wedding band sitting in the river with date xx-xx-14 and initials inscribed along with some initials.
If you didn't purposely chuck it and can identify the rest of date and initials, PM for its return.
I'd like to find out what your wife had to say after you lost it in less than a year.
PerchEyes
PS, what other forums should I post on to find owner?
Maybe some of the salmon river fishing pages on Facebook.
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Never a good thing... Hopefully the brownies will take up some of the slack... Seen good numbers down this way already
I talked to a few guides I know and a few pa fishers I know said there were good numbers of steelies in the salmon
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The fishing is terrible, hope you do better when you come up...
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Stopped up to a buds lodge and saw some nice steelies yesterday , that were landed , nice cromers , i guess it depends where your fishing on the river , these fish came from about mid river
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There seems to be a good amount of larger Steelhead, or at least the ones being caught are larger this year. Average size may be up a tad.
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theirs good number of steelies in... was up Saturday 2 weekend ago n hooked lots n landed 3 n my kids each landed one...went this last weekend both days n hooked lots again(even a few fresh kings that r still swimming) n landed 3 Saturday n Sunday landed 2
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took this home 2 weekends ago
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my boys catch 2 weekends ago
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satudays take home
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sundays take home
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Those are nice fish , always great to see young people enjoying the outdoors with moms and dads , great job dad
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The smile on the boys face says it all, nice job Dad. ;D
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Great report & great investment with the kids!
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Great pics! The smiles on the kids faces are priceless! Great job Dad! 8)
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Good job buddy nice fish if they start ice fishing could be hard to keep up with them ;D
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Good job buddy nice fish if they start ice fishing could be hard to keep up with them ;D
As long as they don't ice fish with you Big Guy, they will be fine. :whistling: :whistling: :whistling:
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Watch it bigal or your gonna b little al :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :whistling:
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:thumbup_smilie:
Watch it bigal or your gonna b little al :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :whistling:
:thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
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Nice looking fish, congratulations on the hookups. I'm hoping to get out soon, and try for myself.
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going to give it a try tommorrow
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very slow day saw 8 fish hook all day
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Here is a pic of my son from Saturday. We were 2/3 on steelhead and 0/1 on a salmon we hooked by accident and broke off on purpose.
I'm not sure which is bigger, the fish or the smile....
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Yeah, I know, what the heck is that leaf doing there?
All released to fight another day....
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Nothing better than fishing with your son..........or grandson.
Nothing!!
Great job and nice fish.
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Nothing better than fishing with your son..........or grandson.
Nothing!!
Great job and nice fish.
Thank you. I will let you know if I agree with you after I get my daughter up there soon.... ;D
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Thank you. I will let you know if I agree with you after I get my daughter up there soon.... ;D
OK - agreed!!!
I have one of those too.
Have fun.
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Nice pic . That's a good one
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i did hookup with a steely but broke off on monday still a good day
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Just wondering, what killed this forum? Was the lack of Snagger's posts or the terrible fishing?
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Yeah its too bad. Hands down this used to be the best thread on MFF.
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Agreed. It gets tiresome looking at it everyday and seeing nothing...
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This help a little bit?
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1 5 lb brown for me today the only hit allday
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Yeah its too bad. Hands down this used to be the best thread on MFF.
Agreed. It gets tiresome looking at it everyday and seeing nothing...
You guys could always contribute something... ;D
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You guys could always contribute something... ;D
:thumbup_smilie:
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Good point on the lack of posts. Problem is the fishing I have seen has been awful. In my last three trips I was skunked twice. I caught fish in one not to be named creek a week ago when there was some water. Over all in thirty three years of heavy fishing here this is the worst year I have seen...
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We've been doing ok out our way near Buffalo, granted it's not like last year and nowhere near 2 years ago but if you put you're time in and don't get stuck in a rut of using strictly one presentation/offering you will catch fish. Just not huge numbers like the last couple years, but there's fish around. Has definitely been a strange year though. We will be going up to the river next Sunday and Monday, I'll be sure to report how we do, hopefully we get into a couple. Although they've been few and far between, the size of the fish from this year up there seems to be on the larger size which is a plus in my book. Everyone likes 20+ fish days but I'd be just as happy with one hog ;)
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My buddy and his brother went up Sunday. My buddy landed 8 and his brother landed 7. They were in lower fly area. Out fished everyone else around them. It's all in the presentation. ;D ;D ;D
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Unfortunately no fly zones for me. Die hard float fisherman here, plus I've fly fished once in my entire life. That was 3 years ago up there during the salmon run, and a fly rod with mono and a couple split shot and an egg sacs just doesn't qualify as even fly fishing to me. We will be fishing from Altmar down on Monday in the boat. Wade fishing Sunday but haven't decided whereabouts we'll start. If anybody has any suggestions feel free to pm me if you don't want to post anything publicly. I'll report back how we do Tuesday or Wednesday of next week. Maybe we can actually bring this thread back to life
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So where is Snagger ?
he ok ?
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Shane is fine! I fished with him last Thursday and talked to him today. I fished yesterday on the river and had a few hookups. Shane reported to me today that the river has been a bit slow for this time of year. Raining good here now....maybe that will help fire them up!
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Shane is fine! I fished with him last Thursday and talked to him today. I fished yesterday on the river and had a few hookups. Shane reported to me today that the river has been a bit slow for this time of year. Raining good here now....maybe that will help fire them up!
We're you the one with him crankbaiting for coho
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We're you the one with him crankbaiting for coho
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I had the privilege of getting on some private skeeter land on Columbus Day weekend when the run was happening for my first ever salmon river experience and I was hooked. Standing in the river with salmon slamming into my waders was something that any fisherman would relish. Got my first king with the help of some guides that were there that day. Ive hit the tribs in Orwell numerous times since then and just to be up there in salmon country is relaxing to me. If I spot a fish I'm happy because it takes so much commitment to catch one let alone land one. It's like hunting and I'm fortunate to have some friends that have some experience and lead me to the fish. We truly are lucky to have such a prime special situation like the salmon river provides us in our own backyard. If the steelhead pick up please share because I'm still trying to land one on my own, without the help of a guide. #cornfield #shortenedworkdaysontheriver #pulaskiisaspecialplace
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I hit the river for the first time last Saturday. Spent 7 hours in 2 spots and saw 4 steelies hooked with two of them landed (plus one in the lower fly zone as I was crossing the bridge). I hooked one 18-20" trout for the entire day.
Tons of guys out but very few fish. We're not going to get ice for a while though so I'll give it another go. I had fun with the salmon this fall (not in Salmon River), gotta get hooked up with a steelie now.
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On my way this weekend plan on fishing Friday and Saturday home for Sunday. Hope come rain brings them in.
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We're you the one with him crankbaiting for coho
:whistling: :whistling: :whistling:
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Sorry about the lack of posts, but once the main season hit, I was busy and my wi fi in my house gets overloaded and I can't upload photos very fast so at end of the night i'm tired and just go too bed, with a tougher than normal season worked twice as hard as normal, had too fight for every dollar this year. I stopped posting about steelhead 2 yrs ago even on facebook, just crowds up the river for my guests staying here.
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There's no steelhead
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There's no steelhead
Just the one you got.. ::)
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I've been up a few times in the last couple of weeks. 10 times tougher than its been the past few years. Definitely less crowded even with the warm weather
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I've been up a few times in the last couple of weeks. 10 times tougher than its been the past few years. Definitely less crowded even with the warm weather
I made a prediction this summer on facebook and at my lodge that this would be the worst steelhead run in 7 yrs, and it has been, its like it was 10-15 yrs ago, more work involved but guys here are doing ok, cleaned a lot today.
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Great pic snag and a nice steelie
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great fish,and nice photo,thanks for sharing
RAT
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Went Thursday blue sky's beautiful day. Hooked 3 landed none. Saw a lot of fish hooked very few landed. Woke up Friday to 9" of lake effect snow. Flow was 700-900 cfs Thursday then Friday 1820cfs wow. Nothing no hookups,saw a small fish snagged at boat ramp all day. White out conditions all day high water an another foot of snow while fishing Friday.
They seamed to drop back (down River)to catch what's washed down River by increased flow.
I could hear thunder its was Boulders rolling down River under the water. Very dangerous if it lands on your feet. Called it quits @2pm. Probably the most dangerous condition I've ever fished in on Friday.
I'll be back though!
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That's pretty wild with those boulders washing down stream! Crazy
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Went Thursday blue sky's beautiful day. Hooked 3 landed none. Saw a lot of fish hooked very few landed. Woke up Friday to 9" of lake effect snow. Flow was 700-900 cfs Thursday then Friday 1820cfs wow. Nothing no hookups,saw a small fish snagged at boat ramp all day. White out conditions all day high water an another foot of snow while fishing Friday.
They seamed to drop back (down River)to catch what's washed down River by increased flow.
I could hear thunder its was Boulders rolling down River under the water. Very dangerous if it lands on your feet. Called it quits @2pm. Probably the most dangerous condition I've ever fished in on Friday.
I'll be back though!
my buddy went 12 for 21 during that storm, 1500cfs is a great level. I hit the River sunday morning, 7-9am I went 4 for 7, great long battles, seen another 10 hooked. fished next too chowdair. fun morning. higher yet right now, 2350 at Pineville, snows melting, flood threat is high.
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Few salmon shots from main season.
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Took a chance sunday night and drove over too the Redfield Reservoir, right as I pulled in the skies opened up and even with a moon so bright you could read a newspaper, the G3 solar storm said make way Upstate New York I'm coming in
. Best I've ever witnessed, it was incredible too watch with my naked eyes, wiggled across the sky like a snake, lasted about 15 minutes and was gone. crazy.
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Great pictures Snag... :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
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Nice pics Shane, where's the "like" button?
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Awesome pics Snag! Think we might have to break out the shorts for Christmas! This weather is wild
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Awesome pics, Snagger. And nice fishing next to you the other day.
I went back up this morning. 0/3 on some big pretty fish. Got long fights out of all of them and 2 were jumpers so I'm as happy as I could be without landing any.
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Is that ICE in the pic????? IT's ON!!!!!! hahahahahaha ;D
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Yep reservoir was locked up, got too be about spilling over the dam now, lots of snowmelt.
I almost swung over today chowdaire, call me next time your coming up.
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Great pics Shane!
Merry Christmas everyone!
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hope everyone had a great Christmas.
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How's the river flow looking? Any Steelhead around? Since ice isn't an option I need something to do this week.
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pretty high right now, 2000cfs.
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Thanks Snagger.
Do you run a float guide service on the river? I want to book a trip for my sons birthday in January but am not sure who to call. I am a bottom bouncer and love doing it but I think the river is a little to big for him to be out there in waders yet. Any help is appreciated.
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call capt. andy bliss/ chasin tail adventures/ great guy, patient instructor, extremely knowledgeable/ and works both the Oz and salmon river.
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Northwoods Outfitters....Mark is a great drift boat guide! ;)
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Northwoods outfitters!
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Thanks for the advice, Snagger.
I tried to get in touch with you in the morning but ended up picking up the line, re-spooling and heading back up for a couple of hours in the afternoon. Landed my first hook-up. Finally
Then I dumped the next 3 but only one because of broken line / laziness. Actually had a few problems with reel freeze-up but all-in-all a really good time.
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Thanks for the advice, Snagger.
I tried to get in touch with you in the morning but ended up picking up the line, re-spooling and heading back up for a couple of hours in the afternoon. Landed my first hook-up. Finally
Then I dumped the next 3 but only one because of broken line / laziness. Actually had a few problems with reel freeze-up but all-in-all a really good time.
sorry chowdair forgot you were coming, I been getting up late since salmon season ended..glad you got the right line, now you'll club them.
2X on northwoods outfitters, mark sabia.
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Happy New Years all , , ,
Happy New Year Snagger.
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Happy New Years all , , ,
Happy New Year Snagger.
X2
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Happy New Year's all and tight lines!
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This was cool , , ,
https://youtu.be/c0_oKHARhXw (https://youtu.be/c0_oKHARhXw)
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2015 salmon season video
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Nice video with great photography!
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Nice job Snag and Rob!
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Rick you made the highlight reel. Nice video Rob
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yup, that's a better video.
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Spent a day on the river with good friends today. The fish even cooperated. We went 5 for 9. One was a brown.
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nice was thinking of going satday
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Had another good day on the river. Only landed one but had multiple hits. Fish are hanging tight to the bottom.
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Thanks for the report, kc. I plan on heading up in the morning myself. The snow should make it interesting.
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Took me to the afternoon to get up there today and I wish I could say it was worth it but I struck out. No hits. Didn't see a single fish hooked. There's always next time...
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In case any of you guys are interested, St. Croix is clearing out their discontinued Legend Elites from last year. 40% off with free shipping and a rod bag. I couldn't resist it myself. They're amazing rods.
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anyone know the guy who runs this thread and could get him to start the 2016 and post once in a while?
Hi Snagg
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I'm guessing no one is fishing salmon river as of right now :rotflol:
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I'm guessing no one is fishing salmon river as of right now :rotflol:
At least no one who speaks English.
Reminds me of the old comedian Yakoff Smirnov up there right now. "In Russia,...steelhead catches YOU!"
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At least no one who speaks English.
Reminds me of the old comedian Yakoff Smirnov up there right now. "In Soviet Russia,...steelhead catches YOU!"
;D
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Floated the river both days last weekend. Only saw a few hookups, nothing landed. Might swing back up this weekend, water should drop to a nicer level
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Wondering if anybody has been out on river recentl?. Heading up Friday for the weekend. Wondering how water conditions are. Thanks
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Water has been running around 2000cfs at Pineville for awhile now it's high but fishable. The fishing seems slow to me the last few months but I can usually manage to get a couple by moving around a lot.
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Thanks for the info. Hopefully somethings hungry
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You can check the current water levels on Whitakers Sport Shop web site. ::) ::)
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Has anyone been to the hatchery to see how many fish are in the runs? After the poor year I was wondering how many made it up there. I understand they have a new anesthesia for the fish that won't force them to keep the fish for three weeks while it wears off. Does anyone know whether they have spawned the fish they are holding?
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I saw a report on Facebook they are going to start taking eggs next week and the beginning of the following week. Weekdays only 9 to noon. From the pictures I saw on Facebook the raceways are loaded with some big boys.
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Thanks for the info!
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River dropped too 1200 yesterday at noon and just dropped too 900, it has been a little more colored than normal, but I just walked too the post office and it looked pretty nice today.. Very cold this morning, 14 degrees probably aint helping the bite, I fished from my house too Ellis cove yesterday, every gravel area that normally holds steelhead during the spawn had fish, seen probably 20, hatchery is loaded like normal, they been taking eggs the last 3 days about 2-3 weeks early. Everyone is under the impression theres no steelhead, but everything looked pretty normal too me yesterday. I hooked 2 yesterday with a float, fished an hour or so, that's normal, the rivers still cold, when it warms up a bit, the bite will get better.
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Thanks for the report Shane. Kowboy and I will be up sometime this week. At least I will
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I was at the hatchery this morning and there were fish in only four of the runs (as opposed to last year when all 11 runs were full). There were some monsters (15lbs+), didn't see many small fish, not sure what that means. There were still fish going in, so I am not sure that the gathering is over. Fished town pool and one of the Tribs, wrecked hell with the dace, no trout....
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all 11 runs were full on march 19th last yr? you sure about that? it was a whole different spring last yr, very cold with ice and snow til early april. 8 days ago during that high water event guys here smashed em pretty good in the cricks, sounds like you just had a little bad timing fred.
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Positive. I'm not sure if you remember me Snagger, but we were on the Salmon River Fishing Association together in the early 2000's. My timing might be bad, but this is my worse year in more than thirty. The runs were chock full into late April last year (partially because they were holding them because of the drugs they gave them) and there wasn't much of a drop back season with the high water. Now I haven't been to the hatchery until today and fish might have left, but fish were coming in today while I watched. Maybe they will fill up the runs, at least I hope they will, but I don't think so, something is wrong...
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Positive. I'm not sure if you remember me Snagger, but we were on the Salmon River Fishing Association together in the early 2000's. My timing might be bad, but this is my worse year in more than thirty. The runs were chock full into late April last year (partially because they were holding them because of the drugs they gave them) and there wasn't much of a drop back season with the high water. Now I haven't been to the hatchery until today and fish might have left, but fish were coming in today while I watched. Maybe they will fill up the runs, at least I hope they will, but I don't think so, something is wrong...
Wasn't much of a drop back season? really, it was my best in 38 yrs, caught them til first week in june, not sure how often you fish the river but it was insane stuff, I kept my mouth shut even on facebook, didn't want too ruin it on my guests, I had a group of guys come up on memorial day weekend last yr, get like nothing on a charter I set them up and they let a 6 yr old reel in 32 steelhead in 4 hours, it was nuts. I have legitimate concerns about the kings, but I have no worries about the steelhead at this point, fran says hatchery is normal.
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Last august I predicted the toughest steelhead season in 7 yrs, know how I was able too do that? by looking at stocking charts. they stocked nearly half as many last 2 yrs as 6-8 yrs ago. not trying too argue with you fred, but I don't agree that's fishin is worse then the 90's, I fished every single day back then, it was much tougher then than now, we are spoiled , plain and simple.
I kept a very close eye on reports from my lodgers this winter even though I ice fish a lot, the swirling occurred multiple times after cold run off periods, but nothing out of normal, like the yr before when it occurred during that warm water period, hopefully this winter being milder, the steelhead had a much more diverse diet, not just alewives, helping with there thiamin problems...........dec said we lost another yr class of alewives in the winter of 2015. they only stocked 147,000 steelhead again last yr, that's way down from that high of 372,000 from I think 2008. until they up the stockings of steelhead, fishing will remain at present levels.
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to be honest I lean toward freds side ....for what ever reason the amount of fish sure appears lower to me and the fish generally are smaller ......in the 90's 15 pound fish were common , I think the only reason fisherman may be spoiled has nothing to do with steelhead populations its the newer tactics of fishing for them...... the average fisherman today is a lot better equipped then 20 years ago.... hell we had to tie our own rods just to get a noodle rod and most of them were fly rod blanks tied with spinning seats .....no one had any idea about pinning or beads .....even eggs were not cured as well ...I remember first time estaz was used for flies on salmon river ...... I agree with you fred ,it's my opinion the numbers just aren't there ....
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I got sheets in my drawer from yrs like 94 or 97 where they only stocked 49,000 steelhead trapper, never had a yr exceed 120,000 in those days, shoot hatchery 4 yrs ago dumped an extra 200,000 into the river off the books. yesterday I walked a stretch of river I been walking my whole life, there was steelhead on every bar that there was supposed too be, I could of been 9 yrs old 21 yrs old or 47 yrs old blind folded and I wouldn't have been able too tell you what year it was.
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I cleaned more steelhead this fall at 1 fish per man then at anytime in the 90's and there was a 3 fish limit then, that's saying something.
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All I'm going too say, is if the hatchery doesn't dump extra steelhead in, get used too it, because it aint gonna change.
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to be honest I lean toward freds side ....for what ever reason the amount of fish sure appears lower to me and the fish generally are smaller ......in the 90's 15 pound fish were common , I think the only reason fisherman may be spoiled has nothing to do with steelhead populations its the newer tactics of fishing for them...... the average fisherman today is a lot better equipped then 20 years ago.... hell we had to tie our own rods just to get a noodle rod and most of them were fly rod blanks tied with spinning seats .....no one had any idea about pinning or beads .....even eggs were not cured as well ...I remember first time estaz was used for flies on salmon river ...... I agree with you fred ,it's my opinion the numbers just aren't there ....
theres a lot too be said about what you just wrote, I firmly believe that the reason we are loosing so many steelhead is from new practices, namely taking 8 million pictures of fish that are released, those fish can only get caught and handled and photographed so much til they die, things are different now, we have too take pictures of everything, shoot I'm a photographer that takes probably more pictures then anyone, but my fish are already dead, I don't take pictures of fish that are being released, only harvested ones..20x the boats now, 20x the boat nets too rub the slime off, and pictures, its a different world now. thiamin defiency is just part of the problem, that's where it starts, its what is done too them once in the river that dooms them. River will take its natural course, fishin slows and you loose the crowds, then fishin comes back, never ending cycle.
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All I'm going too say, is if the hatchery doesn't dump extra steelhead in, get used too it, because it aint gonna change.
Yup. I was at the state of the lake meeting in Pulaski a few weeks ago. They said that it will always be a put and take hatchery raised steelhead fishery. They have no plans of creating a wild steelhead fishery, or increasing or improving the habitat for more wild fish, it will always be a steelhead fishery reliant on hatchery stocking. Hatchery numbers will be variable from year to year.
It seems The DEC and Albany officials care more about the salmon programs in rivers, small tribs and lake O than the steelhead, and that might not ever change.
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Until yesterday , I have not been on the river since early November. Man The river was full of steelhead late Oct. early November . Not sure what is going on now , but I have been hanging and talking to many guides the last few weeks that said they have been really struggling to get hookups. Might be due to high water flows making for harder fishing and not being able to see them with the fish being spread out more or a lot less fish are in the river. This week with lower flows will be telling.
I fished above and below the Altmar bridge yesterday for just a few hours, and This afternoon fished below the schoolhouse area and had no hook ups ....but did see a few fish,but no biters.Water was cold, I think 38/39 degrees.
Stopped taking the fish out of the water a couple seasons ago, and will continue not to take them out for pics....they have enough problems to deal with, being out of the water is not one they can handle when already weak and stressed.
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choo choo you get it, waters have been higher than normal all winter, schoolhouse was re designed with that tree, that held hook ups down, that's holes never been the same since the flood, they don't hold in there like they used too.with internet spreading gloom and doom, drift boat trips were way down, hard too hook em if you aint out, I saw very few boats out this year except on Saturdays, once this water drops we'll see whats been under it all winter, proof will be in next 2 weeks as long as we can keep it down, a lot of rain in forecast later this week. I fished in November and December and did well, good like 3 yrs ago no, but did well.
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Fishin fred heres some food for thought, I was invited too a guide meeting with the dec , the topic wasn't steelhead but I brought up an interesting topic while at the meeting .In the old days I had the dec send me yearly stocking reports, I still have most of them from the 90's in a drawer somewhere, back then you would see things like spring brook, rt 3, rt 52, pineville, orwell brook ect in the steelhead and salmon stockings, then recently all I see is beaver dam brook, for everything, well won't all the fish stocked just race too the hatchery brook and not hold anywhere else in the river now?, since they no longer stock them anywhere but the hatchery, made moppys eye brows raise up when I said it.
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I think it's just been when of them years for me when I say it's slow for me. I did very well in December with some really big fish consistently. But the weather has been weird the water has been higher on avg. And it could be less fish too. I still catch them. Just not the ton of easy hookups that has been in the past. I honestly like the search and spot hopping. But I know most people don't seem too.
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Good point Snagger. I remember the year we all got together and stocked the whole river with fish (including the first browns that had been stocked in a long while) with drift boats. Anyway it would be nice if we could get that group together again to help keep the river full of fish. That seemed to be the only time we could get the people from the dam working with fisherman and the DEC...
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That was a good group of guys, I liked that period in the salmon rivers history, seemed like all the business owners put aside there differences too get a main goal achieved.
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I cleaned more steelhead this fall at 1 fish per man then at anytime in the 90's and there was a 3 fish limit then, that's saying something.
lot more steelhead fisherman then 30 years ago
fishinfred I'm thinking I must know you I remember helping ole hickory stock carried bucks to the sportsman hole ..... felt great to help stock a river you would fish .....
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We had a pretty good thunderstorm on the 16th, got my first lightning shot of the season.
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Nice shot of the storm. Wasn't many people around yesterday. Two cars at Schoolhouse and Sportsman, had the Town pool to myself. Course I didn't get out until 11 or so. I enjoyed our work with the Fisherman's Association, sorry that it broke up. I enjoy your posts and how you keep this site alive. There aren't many good sites around now...
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Fishin fred heres some food for thought, I was invited too a guide meeting with the dec , the topic wasn't steelhead but I brought up an interesting topic while at the meeting .In the old days I had the dec send me yearly stocking reports, I still have most of them from the 90's in a drawer somewhere, back then you would see things like spring brook, rt 3, rt 52, pineville, orwell brook ect in the steelhead and salmon stockings, then recently all I see is beaver dam brook, for everything, well won't all the fish stocked just race too the hatchery brook and not hold anywhere else in the river now?, since they no longer stock them anywhere but the hatchery, made moppys eye brows raise up when I said it.
that's interesting snag and i'll tell you why .... sage was never stocked with steel and I catch them their all the time along with 20 streams no wider then a car ..... as far as I know chrome was never stocked in little salmon nor grindstone ...still has fish ....I don't believe any of these fish have any homeing instincts I believe and I have always said I think they follow current I think the same with salmon I have caught steelhead salmon and browns all the way to phoenix and in black creek and waterhouse creek ..........like the geese that live on the golf course they ain't heading north
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that's interesting snag and i'll tell you why .... sage was never stocked with steel and I catch them their all the time along with 20 streams no wider then a car ..... as far as I know chrome was never stocked in little salmon nor grindstone ...still has fish ....I don't believe any of these fish have any homeing instincts I believe and I have always said I think they follow current I think the same with salmon I have caught steelhead salmon and browns all the way to phoenix and in black creek and waterhouse creek ..........like the geese that live on the golf course they ain't heading north
come on trapper really? if that was the case the Oswego river and black river would get all the fish, yet a brook I can jump acrossed, the hatchery brook looks like Alaska, don't argue for the sake of argueing , its just foolishness.. If your not, I apologise..... we all know theres a few wanderers, anything stocked directly in the lake is going too just randomly pick a ditch too spawn in. not sure about Sage, but Little Salmon and grindstone at one time were stocked, probably still have natural reproduction going on since the original stockings.
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I'm not fighting at all I'm stating facts fish are caught as far as phoenix and I'm sure beyond fish are caught in fulton up water house creek and black creek steel have never been stocked in sage creek nor catfish creek and your saying they are like homing pigeons???? if that is the case why are most salmon now stocked directly into lake Ontario from barges ?
sorry snag your not the only person with a valued opinion .....I have not stated one thing that isn't true and anyone that fishes the tribs knows it's true..... these fish return up ever stream that flows into that lake ...they do not return to the place of their origin and if they did 99% of your fish would die right in lake Ontario where the barge drops them.....
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now do they kill the steelhead or do they milk them
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they milk them it's interesting to watch ,years ago before the hatchery was built fisherman could volunteer to help at the fish wair in Pulaski, the process was basicly what happens now the fish swam up the shoots into tanks the guys netted the fish and set them in drums with a chemical to to calm the fish (drug them) then they were striped and milked the fish then were send down a pipe with water running down it back into the river ....(these were salmon that I helped with) was a lot of fun
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I'm not fighting at all I'm stating facts fish are caught as far as phoenix and I'm sure beyond fish are caught in fulton up water house creek and black creek steel have never been stocked in sage creek nor catfish creek and your saying they are like homing pigeons???? if that is the case why are most salmon now stocked directly into lake Ontario from barges ?
sorry snag your not the only person with a valued opinion .....I have not stated one thing that isn't true and anyone that fishes the tribs knows it's true..... these fish return up ever stream that flows into that lake ...they do not return to the place of their origin and if they did 99% of your fish would die right in lake Ontario where the barge drops them.....
They are stocked from barges way out into the lake to increase their survival rate from nearshore predation from cormorants , sea gulls and shallow water fish who can decimate the stocking efforts wnen stocked along the lakeshore or harbors etc..
99% would die right where the barge stocked them? They don't return to there place of origin? Are you feeling ok trapper?Those fish were imprinted long before they were put on the barges and stocked out in the lake...where they are stocked from the barges is not their place of origin.
Mother nature is not perfect, and there will always be a percentage of fish that do not return to there place of origin. Strays or wanderers for lack of aa better term, who play follow the leader.
Some of them enter the wrong stream , and backtrack out to search for their "correct" stream. But for the most part, a high percentage of the fish return to where they were imprinted, their place of origin. It is one of the most amazing thing in the wild, that such a high percentage of these fish can live their life out in the lake and return, years later, to their place of origin....awesome and amazing.
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coo coo that is the opposite of what I said ...I said salmon steelhead and browns stocked in the great lakes do not return to the place they were stocked ,rather they follow current ....snagger said that was not true ...I said if fish returned to the points that they were STOCKED then those fish would stay in the lake where the barge dropped them off ... salmon steelhead and browns run streams that were never stocked! not one fish was ever stocked in rice creek in Oswego,wine creek in Oswego ,nine mile creek in scriba ,the church camp creek in scriba , catfish creek in new haven ,butterfly marsh in new haven , sage creek in new haven .... never had a fish stocked not one yet those tribs produce salmon steelies and browns ever year now that's just 10 miles of lake Ontario shoreline ........I stand by my statement these fish DO NOT RETURN TO JUST WHERE THEY ARE STOCKED AT ALL OR RAISED but rather FOLLOW any current the incounter ..........the proof is in over 45 years of those streams produceing fish ....and by the way close as I remember the only place little salmon river was ever stocked was at the mouth at mexico point as that was the only state access
and mother nature had nothing to do with bring pacific salmon to the great lakes nor rainbows browns or steel head ...and I never seen a fish return to find another stream that's foolish they turn white and die right in those little streams .....
I do not misquote you please give me the same respect and understand I am entitled to my opinion just as much as you and I have been fishing those rivers and streams before salmon were ever introduced ....
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Sounds like the end of the ice shanty season Oneida thread. More fish and T-storm pics please.
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OK rapper2000...stand by all your statements, I have no clue I guess what you are trying to say. Sorry for commenting .
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coo coo it is no secret I do have dyslexia so typing is a issue ...go back to the post before mine
snagger clearly makes this statement....stocking reports, I still have most of them from the 90's in a drawer somewhere, back then you would see things like spring brook, rt 3, rt 52, pineville, orwell brook ect in the steelhead and salmon stockings, then recently all I see is beaver dam brook, for everything, well won't all the fish stocked just race too the hatchery brook and not hold anywhere else in the river now?, since they no longer stock them anywhere but the hatchery
I said.....that's interesting snag and i'll tell you why .... sage was never stocked with steel and I catch them their all the time along with 20 streams no wider then a car ..... as far as I know chrome was never stocked in little salmon nor grindstone ...still has fish ....I don't believe any of these fish have any homeing instincts I believe and I have always said I think they follow current....
snags response I guess I questioned the all powerful oz and did look behind the curtain was...... come on trapper really? if that was the case the Oswego river and black river would get all the fish, yet a brook I can jump acrossed, the hatchery brook looks like Alaska, don't argue for the sake of argueing , its just foolishness.. If your not, I apologise..... we all know theres a few wanderers, anything stocked directly in the lake is going too just randomly pick a ditch too spawn in. not sure about Sage, but Little Salmon and grindstone at one time were stocked, probably still have natural reproduction going on since the original stockings.
my response still is for one steelhead do not return to the same water and no biologist ever said they did period! number two steel head where never stocked in little salmon river nor wine creek nor rice creek nor the bible camp ,catfish butterfly sage the nuke discharge the steam station discharge and other then at mexico point salmon weren't either ....all these fish including the salmon are running up any water flow into lake Ontario and not just a few stragglers but in numbers and no I don't think there was any natural reproduction in the water drain in Oswego they came up into ......
forgive me for have not only a opinion but showing examples that are plain to see .....
and snag why ask a question if you don't want a answer ?
snagger: , then recently all I see is beaver dam brook, for everything, well won't all the fish stocked just race too the hatchery brook and not hold anywhere else in the river now?, since they no longer stock them anywhere but the hatchery
now I made a statement saying I found something interesting and you 2 jumped like that are you kidding me
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I have no dog in this fight, but I always thought that it was pretty much settled science that most salmon and steelhead return to their natal streams. Attached is a link to a scientific study looking into the Genetic Effects of Straying of Non-Native Hatchery Fish into Natural Populations. What's really telling is the number of citations to other scientific studies researching this topic noted toward the bottom of this study. It appears that this topic has been well studied.
This study mostly talks about salmon, but it also refers to steelhead. Steelhead appear to be the subject of many other studies referred to in the citations. Here is an excerpt taken from the study:
By way of historical perspective, it was accepted by about the 1870s that most salmon homed back to their natal streams and rivers to spawn, although some biologists remained unconvinced until the 1930s. A report for the U.S. Commission of Fish and Fisheries stated that ". . . it is an established fact that adult [salmon] will always return to the place where they first made acquaintance with the water, passing directly by the mouths of streams or tributaries better adapted to their purpose, to gain their original home" (U.S. Commission of Fish and Fisheries 1874, p. lxxxii). Biologists also recognized that salmon could swim several hundreds of miles up a river to their natal areas. A later report to the Commission pointed out that a stream near Elko, Nevada "is one of the many that form the headwaters of the Columbia River, and to this point, eighteen hundred miles from its mouth, the salt-water salmon come in myriads to spawn . . ." (U.S. Commission of Fish and Fisheries 1876, p. xxviii-xxix). Milner noted "[t]he generally accepted fact in the habits of anadromous fishes that they are disposed to return to almost the exact locality where they passed their embryonic and earlier stages of growth . . . . Observations of the shad brought to the large markets shows considerable difference in the physiognomy and general contour of those from different rivers. The suggestion is natural that they are distinct and separate colonies of the same species, and thus slight characteristics are perpetuated because they breed in-and-in and do not mix with those of other rivers" (Milner 1876, p. 323).
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I wonder why some fish return to the upper fly zone? Could it be that that is where they hatched and spent the early part of their lives? Those fish swam right past beaver dam brook on their way upstream.-Paul
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Great picture of the lighting snagger! I always enjoy seeing the pictures you post of the storms.
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Trapper my question was about the salmon river stockings, how does sage creek fit into why salmon go straight too the hatchery? you said fish have no homing instincts? right? well they all seem too find the hatchery. your points are valid but have nothing relavant too do with my question.
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Well that took all of 3 minutes too find , 1996 stocking sheet, 15,000 steelhead stocked in grindstone, got anything else you want me too prove you wrong at trapper?
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coo coo that is the opposite of what I said ...I said salmon steelhead and browns stocked in the great lakes do not return to the place they were stocked ,rather they follow current ....snagger said that was not true ...I said if fish returned to the points that they were STOCKED then those fish would stay in the lake where the barge dropped them off ... salmon steelhead and browns run streams that were never stocked! not one fish was ever stocked in rice creek in Oswego,wine creek in Oswego ,nine mile creek in scriba ,the church camp creek in scriba , catfish creek in new haven ,butterfly marsh in new haven , sage creek in new haven .... never had a fish stocked not one yet those tribs produce salmon steelies and browns ever year now that's just 10 miles of lake Ontario shoreline ........I stand by my statement these fish DO NOT RETURN TO JUST WHERE THEY ARE STOCKED AT ALL OR RAISED but rather FOLLOW any current the incounter ..........the proof is in over 45 years of those streams produceing fish ....and by the way close as I remember the only place little salmon river was ever stocked was at the mouth at mexico point as that was the only state access
and mother nature had nothing to do with bring pacific salmon to the great lakes nor rainbows browns or steel head ...and I never seen a fish return to find another stream that's foolish they turn white and die right in those little streams .....
I do not misquote you please give me the same respect and understand I am entitled to my opinion just as much as you and I have been fishing those rivers and streams before salmon were ever introduced ....
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your chart shows browns and rainbows being stocked in grindstone brookies were too those are trout stream fish not steelhead ...the steelhead were stocked at Selkirk at the mouth then off the pier I think 5000 were stocked .....
my point was first snag I thought your observation was interesting and the reason why my point has merit is the fish out of beaver creek are showing up in every trib on lake Ontario! point blank and as paul young stated why is he catching fish in the fly zone above the hatchery ...I never wanted to fight but anyone that belives these fish only return to where they were stocked believes in fairy tales ... and the orginal point was why are the steelies numbers down ... and the number of fish do appear down in salmon river .I understand you have a reason to disagree with that but it is what it is ....
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notice the 1995 steelhead numbers, 47,000 that's it, they stocked 147,000 last yr. down from well over 372,000 8 yrs ago
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your chart shows browns and rainbows being stocked in grindstone brookies were too those are trout stream fish not steelhead ...the steelhead were stocked at Selkirk at the mouth then off the pier I think 5000 were stocked .....
my point was first snag I thought your observation was interesting and the reason why my point has merit is the fish out of beaver creek are showing up in every trib on lake Ontario! point blank and as paul young stated why is he catching fish in the fly zone above the hatchery ...I never wanted to fight but anyone that belives these fish only return to where they were stocked believes in fairy tales ... and the orginal point was why are the steelies numbers down ... and the number of fish do appear down in salmon river .I understand you have a reason to disagree with that but it is what it is ....
no there steelhead.
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rice creek gets 350 brown trout above the dam on 104 they again are for trout fisherman shane theres a dam duhhhhhhh they can't make it to the lake Ontario .....I was born and raised here I might know these streams pretty well son
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no snag there not theres a dam those are rainbows and browns
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Whats the STHD next too grindstone stand for?
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keep trying trap, you won't win. know all about fernwood fished it since 81. I know you fished it longer, but your wrong about stockings.
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snagger sorry rich creek has a dam at 104 everyone in Oswego knows granby where the fish are stocked are way above it go on google earth .... those fish never see lake Ontario
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so fish have never flowed over a dam before in high waters? I don't care about rice creek anyways.
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your wrong and everyone knows it case closed, this aint ice shanty. people asked me too get this thread going again and I won't have in valid information on it sorry.
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bottom line you can toss anything up you want ...my point those fish run every stream that hits lake Ontario have since they stocked them
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bottom line you can toss anything up you want ...my point those fish run every stream that hits lake Ontario have since they stocked them
whats the STHD stand for next too grindstone? you didn't answer my question trapper.
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wrong again ...you basicly attacked me you posted false stuff (although you do that a lot more then you admit) and you can stand someone standing up to you .... your wrong about the stocking and your wrong about the fish these salmon and steelhead run every trip and small stream that runs into lake Ontario they dumb them off a barge in the middle of the lake and after they grow they run ant stream with a flow ......................why do I say this because we catch them everywhere in every creek snagger ...your wrong! and the fish prove it .....
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black creek runs by my house snagger want to go fishing for creek browns with me???? I fish it every year ...pretty much got the fish named by july
oh it also has a dam and flows into a muck we can walk the banks i'll show you we can watch them stock it from my back yard :D
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fake? a new York state stocking list is fake.?
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just say it STHD stands for wait for it................ steelhead. :w00t:
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Lots of people wanted me too get this thread going, don't lock it up RG because of trapper.
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Jesus christ trap you are calling him out?
check your meds, or maybe your eyesight....or both
for some reason I always thought you knew Shane, clearly you don't
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snagger posting a stocking list when the stocking is above unpassable barriers and acting like those fish are migrateing to the lake is fake ...and misleading and you know it .......number two my point has not changed they drop those fish off in the middle of the lake and the DEC knows those fish will run every trib that flows into lake Ontario ......it's that simple and that's my point all along
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we all know fish run cricks from lake stockings, that's common knowledge.... but the real runs occur on places heavily stocked.
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yeah I'm calling him out he's full of crap
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no wonder no one comes here.
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then why did salmon river have the worse run in years this fall while Oswego and ever trib rock????
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then why did salmon river have the worse run in years this fall while Oswego and ever trib rock????
news too me oz sucked so did genny and sandies.
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hatchery got there fish, that was whole point of this conversation if you understood what I was writing duh.
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Trap, They have been stocking landlocks above impassable barriers forever in champlain watershed...THEY DO make it to the lake.
The herring in the hudson every single year find ways WAY up the mohawk past literally a dozen dams, and their fry somehow find their way back down...and the cycle repeats
Eat your words Trap, your wrong. ;D
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steelhead are stocked below fernwood dam he doesn't know what hes talkin about big red.
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sorry snagger you attacked me ! look at my post I said you had a very interesting point I made one and you pulled this ..... I'm not one of your worshippers I say what I think............ no matter how much of a temper tantrum you have the fish prove me right these things run every trib including discharges for atomic plants and steam stations .... and these fish were running ALL the tribs before the barge took fish out .... they return to any flow to spawn
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sorry snagger you attacked me ! look at my post I said you had a very interesting point I made one and you pulled this ..... I'm not one of your worshippers I say what I think............ no matter how much of a temper tantrum you have the fish prove me right these things run every trib including discharges for atomic plants and steam stations .... and these fish were running ALL the tribs before the barge took fish out .... they return to any flow to spawn
no temper tantrum I'm laughing actually, its pretty funny stuff.
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Trap, They have been stocking landlocks above impassable barriers forever in champlain watershed...THEY DO make it to the lake.
The herring in the hudson every single year find ways WAY up the mohawk past literally a dozen dams, and their fry somehow find their way back down...and the cycle repeats
Eat your words Trap, your wrong. ;D
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the difference is the Mohawk has locks the fish can go threw ...
and again the point was this SALMON AND STEELHEAD DO NOT GO BACK TO THE PLACE THEY WERE JUST STOCKED THEY ARE IN FACT RUNNING EVERY TRIB IN LAKE ONTARIO
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ok trapper tell dec too stop stocking then if it doesn't matter.
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create a trappers salmon river page so the more informed have something better too read then.
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snagger your stuck on stocking that was never the point and I want to stay on target .... since day one salmon and steelhead have run every trib not a few but in great numbers ...now you never told us why with all the direct stocking salmon river had why was it the worse year for returning fish while Oswego and all the tribs rocked ????
now I should drag you out and show you black creek wine creek and rice and actually show you where they are stocked
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excuse me snagger I don't think you own this although you do play it for free advertisement rather well ....now you don't like another opinion that's fine however come sept every trib on lake Ontario is still going to be filled with salmon and steelhead .....see those fish don't listen to you any more then I do
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snagger your stuck on stocking that was never the point and I want to stay on target .... since day one salmon and steelhead have run every trib not a few but in great numbers ...now you never told us why with all the direct stocking salmon river had why was it the worse year for returning fish while Oswego and all the tribs rocked ????
now I should drag you out and show you black creek wine creek and rice and actually show you where they are stocked
why the run sucked could be in part because fish don't hold in other areas of the river like they used too when stocking was spread out, now fish move in, 2 days later there in the hatchery or lower fly zone, I brought this up at a dec meeting. in old days they stocked in various places now just beaver dam brook, so the run we had, whether it was great fair or bad, it all ran straight too the hatchery or water just below beaver dam brook. do you understand now?
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create a trappers salmon river page so the more informed have something better too read then.
now how does this make since ???? I never said I believe natural reproduction occurred to where it even helped the population ...I said the fish run every trib on lake Ontario and you blew a gasket
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I've never advertised, I was asked too come back, I don't need this thread and yes it is my thread I don't own MFF but I do control this threads information, good or bad. my names on it
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why was the run so good in Oswego they drop the fish in the lake there ....
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to be honest I lean toward freds side ....for what ever reason the amount of fish sure appears lower to me and the fish generally are smaller ......in the 90's 15 pound fish were common , I think the only reason fisherman may be spoiled has nothing to do with steelhead populations its the newer tactics of fishing for them...... the average fisherman today is a lot better equipped then 20 years ago.... hell we had to tie our own rods just to get a noodle rod and most of them were fly rod blanks tied with spinning seats .....no one had any idea about pinning or beads .....even eggs were not cured as well ...I remember first time estaz was used for flies on salmon river ...... I agree with you fred ,it's my opinion the numbers just aren't there ....
Your timing might be off Trapper or maybe The States was lagging behind Canada back in the day. ;)
We started pinning back in the early 80's in Ontario with it really taking off in the mid 80's. It was then that we were using custom noodle type rods as well.
In the late 70's we were using the old flyrods with either a Martin fly reel loaded with mono or a spinning reel. ;D
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why was the run so good in Oswego they drop the fish in the lake there ....
I heard it was ok at best, they do pen rear there as well. ask the charters like buffa and burke or allen how lake was in front of oz, ok at best.
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ask any charter from buffalo too Rochester too oz too watertown last year was worst season since 1979.
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oh so the old farts with flyrods I control? shane excuse me for asking this but have you ever heard the term "delusions of grandeur"
neither of us control or own anything here we are guest ...and I'm not being mean snag you jumped on me because I have a opinion that the salmon and steelhead run every trib and stream in lake Ontario ......my opinion isn't going to change ....and come sept the prove will be running the water ways again
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oh so the old farts with flyrods I control? shane excuse me for asking this but have you ever heard the term "delusions of grandeur"
neither of us control or own anything here we are guest ...and I'm not being mean snag you jumped on me because I have a opinion that the salmon and steelhead run every trib and stream in lake Ontario ......my opinion isn't going to change ....and come sept the prove will be running the water ways again
why would I contribute too a page that's in the toilet , I won't. unlike you trap, I can admit when I'm wrong, I forgot, I can't control whats said on this thread, I thought you could delete it, but I just tried and you can't... good bye.
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i just called allen buffa and the fleet they said come sept those fish run every trib on lake Ontario
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read back trap, argue was never about you bud. I'm done, have fun boys.
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so fish have never flowed over a dam before in high waters? I don't care about rice creek anyways.
so 250 brown trout stocked in granby swim 10 miles down stream to jump a 10 foot water fall and dam to get to lake Ontario so me and HT can catch steelhead after steelhead ????? I guess the brown trout showed them the way?????
and of course you don't care proves you are mistaken
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Your timing might be off Trapper or maybe The States was lagging behind Canada back in the day. ;)
We started pinning back in the early 80's in Ontario with it really taking off in the mid 80's. It was then that we were using custom noodle type rods as well.
In the late 70's we were using the old flyrods with either a Martin fly reel loaded with mono or a spinning reel. ;D
and moochin rods lol
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the fish run up random creeks (no one is arguing that) , but can get physically imprinted on where they are physically stocked, seperately from where they were raised...
here's some facts
http://www.nwfsc.noaa.gov/publications/scipubs/techmemos/tm30/quinn.html
DEC does stock fish above barriers they intend the fish to go back down through
not sure why you need to have the last word trap, everyone already knows your full of hot air...
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first big red this didn't involve you second from the start the entire discussion was about fish running places they "were not stocked" snagger used the 250 browns stocked in rice creek as a smoke screen to change the direction of the discussing ...250 6 inch brown trout above a dam in granby do not change the fact I been fishing these things since day one and the fact remains these fish run in LARGE numbers up streams that were never stocked they run ever water that flows into lake Ontario .....and they do so in great numbers ....this isn't about me every fisherman that lives in this area knows this !!!! shane knows what Im saying is true that's why he sents his guest to those places like the sandys and doesn't post it .....
it's simple fact now bigred I'm done fighting about this ...you talk what ever you wish
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I hesitate to post this after my last post, but I fish Oswego and the Tribs more than I fish the Salmon and they didn't rock, they were worst for me than the Salmon. Kevin as always got his share from his boat in Oswego, other than that it was a poor year...
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I wasn't invited, simply sharing facts on a public forum. We are so lucky to have a resource like Shane on this website, more people have become better fisherman because of him than the rest of us combined. Not a lot of fisherman make the observations and take the kinds of notes Shane does..and then freely shares this info with us, and comes off without any attitude or sounding like a curmudgeon...
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mine is bigger than yours............thats great guys lets alienate more people that bring info to the site and make sure it really sucks ::)
waiting for it 2 be locked?
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I wasn't invited, simply sharing facts on a public forum. We are so lucky to have a resource like Shane on this website, more people have become better fisherman because of him than the rest of us combined. Not a lot of fisherman make the observations and take the kinds of notes Shane does..and then freely shares this info with us, and comes off without any attitude or sounding like a curmudgeon...
yep but i am thinkin not anymore.......hope i am wrong
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I hesitate to post this after my last post, but I fish Oswego and the Tribs more than I fish the Salmon and they didn't rock, they were worst for me than the Salmon. Kevin as always got his share from his boat in Oswego, other than that it was a poor year...
then why were people sending people to Oswego ...people that were just disagreeing with me the day befor yesterday I was 3 for 5 with my flyrod in a small stream ......fred if your looking for fish PM me i'll send ya a few proven waters
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yep but i am thinkin not anymore.......hope i am wrong
yes a old man with arthritis and copd scared him outta here .... sorry I have known shane for years done business with him and fished with him ...I understand ya all love him ...and that's ok it doesn't mean he walks on water and I never attacked him nor did call him foolish .... my point still stands and the prove is seen every year in every little trib on lake Ontario
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Y'all gotta stop drinking that eastern water. It's making you crazy.
Why is it this thread always gets so out of control?
Rg
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ahhhhhhhhhhhh i caught fish
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Everybody catches fish. I catch, you catch, he catches, they catch.......all God's children catch fish.
So,why all the ego and school girl crap? I'm not gonna play here any more......naaaahhhhh!
Grow up already!
Rg
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Y'all gotta stop drinking that eastern water. It's making you crazy.
Why is it this thread always gets so out of control?
Rg
Oh come on. It was just starting to get good :w00t: :rotflol:
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I haven't seen a "double dog dare" yet, so it is not even close to being over...h2l
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Holy crap!! I just spent 20 minutes of my time, reading something I thought I was going to get educated on. I coulda been having a bowl of ice cream with my daughter. Guess I'll go get some ice cream now......😞
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Besides a little wind it was a beautiful day on the river today fish or no fish. And a much nicer flow to move around to a lot more spots.
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just say it STHD stands for wait for it................ steelhead. :w00t:
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knew a chick once with a sthd...lol
funny what fish make us do as adults :unsure: :unsure: :w00t:
KP share the ice cream ;D
been so bored on this site I actually read this stuff and think you might both be right :rotflol: :clapping:
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pistachio please
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Holy crap!! I just spent 20 minutes of my time, reading something I thought I was going to get educated on. I coulda been having a bowl of ice cream with my daughter. Guess I'll go get some ice cream now......😞
When it warms up, we should do another smallmouth trip. They're more fun anyway.
Rg
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pistachio please
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X2 - my favorite. ;D
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no way pistachios suck you guys are wrong!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D :rotflol: :evil: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:
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COPD - Chronic Obstructive Posting Disease
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COPD - Chronic Obstructive Posting Disease
2 post and your judgeing people? really how much useful info have you shared
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I actually like your poke fun attitude most of the time trapper......gives me a giggle sometimes, but maybe sometimes it just drags out a little too long?
I would say that no matter how many posts you have.....copd is nothing to joke about........lost my mom to it way to early!!
lets all play nice and keep the threads going strong so that MFF and IS continue to be a GREAT resource for us.
I actually still have never actually caught a steelhead, but love this thread anyways......I have buddies in the bay that drive down quite often(I am still the SKUNK-MASTER ;D ::)
Would love to hook up with you Trapper....maybe for some pannies or stream trout, I pass everything I can on to my 5 yr old boy, but nothing like old school knowledge that can only be given after...say 30 40 50 years!
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Is it possible that back in the day, some of the volunteer stocking help maybe snuck some into the smaller tribs and these have established?
As far as walking on water, wouldn't ice fishing count? :D :D :D
I hope all fishing picks up soon so the squabbles can stop.
Peace!
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yep but i am thinkin not anymore.......hope i am wrong
no I'm the same fishin weather nerd I've always been, guess I'm out of practice at dealing with non stop contradictions, sorry just it takes a lot of time and effort too keep this thread going like I used too, I put my heart and soul into it for nothing in return, just didn't want it too go in the toilet like the Oneida ice shanty thread did this winter, sorry I let my blood pressure get elevated skunk master... although I don't know what fish in sage creek have too do with the hatchery I'm sorry too hear you got copd trap that's what big don had, sorry too hear that.
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no sweat....I ramp up pretty fast sometimes too! :cursing: :cursing:
really just dont want to lose anybody that actually "gives" to the site....even if they are on completely different sides of the conversation........good healthy debate is where new ideas come from........something every fisherperson could certainly use.
also you know most people come off a little different in person( thats probably bad for me ;D ::) ) but I would like to meet a bunch of you on the bank or the water( hard or soft) and decide for myself.
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2 post and your judgeing people? really how much useful info have you shared
Funny, the biggest judgmental pr*** on here complaining about someone judging.
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no sweat....I ramp up pretty fast sometimes too! :cursing: :cursing:
really just dont want to lose anybody that actually "gives" to the site....even if they are on completely different sides of the conversation........good healthy debate is where new ideas come from........something every fisherperson could certainly use.
also you know most people come off a little different in person( thats probably bad for me ;D ::) ) but I would like to meet a bunch of you on the bank or the water( hard or soft) and decide for myself.
I disciplined myself too not take pictures of steelhead 2 yrs ago when the problems began showing up, but fishin has been pretty reasonable last 3 days, I been fishin every day for a couple hours, lots spawning and I been able too get 2-3 hook ups on floats even though its been pretty cold.
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Be on your guard
Stand firm in the faith
Be courageous
Be strong
Do everything in love
you guys should try to live by these words ........................just sayin ;D
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I disciplined myself too not take pictures of steelhead 2 yrs ago when the problems began showing up, but fishin has been pretty reasonable last 3 days, I been fishin every day for a couple hours, lots spawning and I been able too get 2-3 hook ups on floats even though its been pretty cold.
Good job Snag... After 2 days of zero ,I finally hooked up and had some fun with 1 Sunday after the river lowered.... but it was still a little off colored and coooold. I talked with a good local guide and client at the A Hotel Sunday night and he had his best day in well over a month :5 hooked and 3 landed.
BTW, great job yesterday showing and proving your points.... I bailed out of yesterdays "discussion" , when I saw the way the posts were going....not going to get into it with anybody that uses general observations, draws personal conclusions and opinions then declares it as fact over solid biological and scientific data from the last 30 plus years on this fishery.
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I managed 2 yesterday and a couple little browns fishing with a friend that came up. My friend brought up a good point not having the the ability to get up to the river a lot. I caught myself calling it an off day and he was excited it was a great day. I think we have been spoiled for a few years with great runs. Then the die off and some problems with the alewife there is probably definitely lower numbers or weaker runs. But I have noticed it everywhere I have fished. Oswego and some creeks have definitely not had the runs of past years to me. But monkeys are always easier to shoot in a barrel is my take. I like these threads too it gets opinions out and others take on some situations. I don't post a lot but hopefully it doesn't turn into and ice shanty here.
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Another thing too remember about this spring season is there was 2 big runs in the creeks this winter, some spawned in january and already left the creeks, had guys 2 fridays ago hit them really well in the cricks in the high water, some got harvested, some probably dropped out already. There was also a very unusual weather event in early february where it went from mid 50's with tons of steel in the tribs to minus 34 degrees where the cricks flash froze, if some died in that event, the spring flood we had 2 weeks ago would of washed away any evidence. So we may be calling it spring, but theres been non stop fish coming and going all winter, so its hard too judge, like in a normal season, what we really got.
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Just wondering if it's worth a trip up to the hatchery, is there still activity going on? Thanks.
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I stopped by there yesterday. The spawn house was open when I went and they were taking eggs what the exact hours were I am not 100 percent sure. I think if you call them they have a message on their machine with info.
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they been taking eggs for like a week now, its got too be close too being over, get up there soon or you'll miss it.
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Would love to hook up with you Trapper....maybe for some pannies or stream trout, I pass everything I can on to my 5 yr old boy, but nothing like old school knowledge that can only be given after...say 30 40 50 years!
actually I really do have COPD it's no joke ... and I'm not afraid too say it because if one kid doesn't smoke then it's not in vien ,I also really do have dyslexia ...I say that because other people have it and are afraid to post things or write ,I'm not ..... I went off because I really believe every word I said and still do ..... I didn't predict anything other then every trib in lake onatrio will have fish in it this fall .... I did not bend and records or use anything to misguide anyone ....I grew up on salmon river I helped stock the first fish that returned ....so after drifting a few billion egg sacks and flies I figure I am entitled to MY OPINION .....now I seen more flip flopping then a Clinton running for office .....I am not flip flopping ....I don't believe salmon and steelhead are ingrained to return to the exact spot they were released or raised!!! if the first was true they would not run 90% of the tribs ....pain and simple if they were instilled to return to the hatchery where they where raised then they would all have gone west to the state hatchery in western ny (forgot the name) before salmon river hatchery was built ...... it's not about pictures or nets or more people ...I think salmon river has less fish because there are less fish swimming
now before anyone jumps on me because I said the tribs and Oswego had lots of fish ...they do but they have less area Oswego is a very short body of water and most tribs are narrow with a lot smaller holes and holding areas so less area for the fish to spread out and hide
I have nothing agaist shane ,I disagree with him and I don't understand how he predicted the worse year ever from stocking records then denys it and says he's cleaned more steelies then ever before ..... I find that a bit confussing sorry you can look back
now if I jumped at shane it's because I did offer MY OPINION hionest and fair and I was discussing with fred and snagger I even said snagger had a interesting point ....which he does .... shane called me foolish and wanting a argueement (I never said anything like shanes opinions were foolish or that he wanted a argueement .....now when it comes to remarks like people that contribute and valued opinion that's cheap shots and childish............ bottom line I'm a old man that loves to flyfish that's has little to nothing shane is a guy that has a old house and he rents rooms and cleans fish .... neither of us are biologist nor rocket scientist and we both love the river we just see things differently .... he sees things his way and I see them the right way .....that's all
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sorry skunk didn't mean to put part of your post in there
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I predicted worse run in 7 yrs not ever, whos bending now Clinton?
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I haven't had a cigarette since july 28th myself, still chewing Nicorette gum and a e cig once in a while, hard habit too break.
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I predicted worse run in 7 yrs not ever, whos bending now Clinton?
ya know people only offer a olive branch once
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ya know people only offer a olive branch once
no idea what that means, but I predicted worse run in 7 yrs, it happened, but I still cleaned more than the 90;s because theres more steelhead then the 90's.
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I was on high blood pressure meds for 18 months, since quitting smoking I've been taken off them, but it still rises, so I'm just not gonna argue anymore with you trap, you believe what you believe I believe what I believe, that's all. but I know you won't let it die that's just the way you are, have a nice day.
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Is there any salmon in the river? Lol! ;D
RG...sounds like a plan! 8)
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Is there any salmon in the river? Lol! ;D
RG...sounds like a plan! 8)
no larry there all down to rice creek they stocked 250 brown trout for the kids to catch but a few climb down that dam and become returning kings :rotflol:
and sorry I didn't get out there today I had a few issues getting someones meds
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I haven't had a cigarette since july 28th myself, still chewing Nicorette gum and a e cig once in a while, hard habit too break.
I was fishing with lance and lost my breath pulling his jon boat I had to stop and catch my breath ,I tossed the cigarettes that day never had another ...I never suffered withdrawl either ..... can't say I don't want one but that's not needing one ....after I quit I found it hard to walk from warm to cold next thing your on a inhaler ..... my tip toss the gum the smokes and think would you rather have a smoke or be able to go fishing ..... you can quit anyone can. I smoked all 45 years and tossed a full pack ..... even with my problems I feel better and between walking and riding my bicycle I think I have improved somewhat ....if you got a young child really teach them how bad it is .....no matter what side of any disagreement your on ...no one can tell me a good reason to smoke ...snag you can do it ...my bp actually went up after I quit
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Is there any salmon in the river? Lol! ;D
RG...sounds like a plan! 8)
I've got a virgin IM-6, 10' 6 wt I built myself a bit ago. Can't thing of a better way to christen it.
Rg
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Stick with it Snag.....you can quit. Smoked 30+ years myself.....quit 16 years ago. Not an easy thing, but worth every bit of discomfort. It does get easier, so don't give up. You'll never regret quitting 8)
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I have never seen a steelhead except on this thread. I read where they were dieing of some deficiency. I have come to the conclusion those that dont die #1 lose their gps system, #2. Learn to fly over dams, and #3. Develop the ability to become invisible, sometimes for weeks and other times for years. They sound like a difficultfish to persue..
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:rotflol: that was funny
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I haven't had a cigarette since july 28th myself, still chewing Nicorette gum and a e cig once in a while, hard habit too break.
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I remember when you quit trap, you told me that day we were coho fishin, I've got something wrong with my eyes, had MRI's done on my brain and neck looking for clots or an anurism, had every eye test done known too man, checked for detached retina macular degeneration, everything... its some sort of blood problem I see bursting vessles in my vision and floaters, can't be out in strong sun at all... its been slowly getting worse for 3-4 yrs, so I quit smoking, my blood pressure went up too at first, now its down, Ice seasons over , so back too getting tests done too see whats wrong.
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Got a hot tip from KC tonight so I snuck out last hour or so, ended up getting 4 nice steelhead on beads and floats, but everyone came un buttoned. fun evening, kind of evening you live for.
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Got a hot tip from KC tonight so I snuck out last hour or so, ended up getting 4 nice steelhead on beads and floats, but everyone came un buttoned. fun evening, kind of evening you live for.
BINGO!! :w00t: 😜
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first 2 weeks I quit I felt good then I started feeling congestion in my chest and not being able to breath out .....now this has gotten better but now I have to carry a inhaler and I have to use my head a little bit (which we all hate to do) my BP like I said went up mine has to be controlled with medication .....but I still feel better not smoking ,if you smoke ,and yes I believe it's a free country but don't be a knucklehead ...quit if you got children your not just hurting you you are hurting them ...they learn from you ....quit ! if you love to fish and hunt or trap like I do ....nothing is worse then having to slow down to catch my breath and missing doing what I love ...quit .....
I been sneaking to one on my little tribs ...fish are there ;D
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COPD - Chronic Obstructive Posting Disease
not joking about copd.........this is the post i was referenceing.........trapp......and maybe you know this guy but with 3 posts I guessed not?
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not joking about copd.........this is the post i was referenceing.........trapp......and maybe you know this guy but with 3 posts I guessed not?
I have no idea who he is but I think like bad pennys some people return also.... the good news I'm finishing this coffee then going fishing ;D........I got a few wolly buggers I just did up now if I can't find a steelie that wants one real quick I bet I can a crappie
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oh now stop that you'll hurt my internet feelings :rotflol: someone else called me a troll and I don't even know what that means .......on the past calling names was so much more original and colorful ;D
no steel for me today but I hit a few spots for crappies and I scored nothing be after perch after lunch
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oh now stop that you'll hurt my internet feelings :rotflol: someone else called me a troll and I don't even know what that means .......on the past calling names was so much more original and colorful ;D
no steel for me today but I hit a few spots for crappies and I scored nothing be after perch after lunch
Wow....you are lucky I only have 1 feeling ;D ;D :-*
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Wow....you are lucky I only have 1 feeling ;D ;D :-*
lolllllll wise guy
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although I don't know what fish in sage creek have too do with the hatchery
OK, take this for what it's worth. I don't know Sage Creek, or if it has been stocked but I do know that stocked fish will sometimes stray and end up in another river from where they were originally stocked. Probably the best example of this is The Grand River in Ontario. It runs into Lake Erie and has never been stocked with steelhead. Over the years strays from the US side have run up the river and now there is a very nice run of steelhead there due to these strays and now natural reproduction.
No matter how the smolts are imprinted on their stocked stream a small percentage will stray and end up in other rivers and creeks. If lucky a self sustaining and viable fishery can be created by these strays. The same goes with the sammins as there are plenty of US fish caught on the Canadian side of the GL's. ;)
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drifter in return we have caught many fish with Canadian fin clips in the past but and this is "MY OPINION" I still think natural reproduction of the "salmon" is over rated ...reason I say this is two reasons first ....1967 was not the first attempt to stock Chinooks in lake Ontario in the 50's a attempt was made to stock salmon and lake trout due to the lamprey population this didn't work well and no natural spawning occurred in 1968 cohos were introduced then Chinooks in 1969 ...I caught my first stream caught salmon in little salmon river oct 1971 with a bullhead rod and tribal hook it was in littlesalmon fiver off ladd road below what is now jelly stone park I got 2 that day with my brothers and dad ...what made this day special wasn't my first salmon but it was the last time we all fished together ( sorry personal history) ....later in the 70's we had the great mercury and mirex in salmon scare , those of you that don't recall stocking was cut to nothing and fisherman were actually given 3 metal tags to tag trophy fish the state warned eat none! this ban didn't work and was lifted soon after however the damage was done few years later with such low stockings the returns were the worse I ever recall remember in those days we drove the holes and force fish out to waiting snaggers ....you were lucky to see a couple fish a day .............. now no on has to agree with anything I say and most don't my opinions are formed from what I seen of 49 years of this fishery most of the biologist that make statements where not even alive when the stocking stopped then ...... since we have had directors that wanted to take that natural reproduction route in the end it always goes back to lake Ontario salmon and trout are a put and take fishery .............I personally don't find put and take as dirty words ...... I like it as matter of fact
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If the Salmon River was patrolled during Steelhead season (Like It Should Be) DEC would run out of ticket books. I throw up every time I watch some stooge perform his blind hookset 500 times with 6 feet of 1x fluro tipit using a size 32 nympth, lol
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seeing there are only 6 dec officers in Oswego county and 3 in Jefferson county ,I think they do a pretty good job .....
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few pics from last couple days.
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Looks like a great day, congratulations!
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Nice fish.
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If natural reproduction of salmonid species doesn't occur in great lakes tribs, how would one account for the small number of coho salmon and the occasional king even (I can personally attest to a few Kings being caught in Buffalo Creek within the last 3-5 years) in Erie tribs when, as far as I know there hasn't been any salmon stocking in Erie in years, at least stateside. How do these fish show up then year after year if there truly was 0 natural reproduction? I'm not trying to say that there is enough to sustain the sport fishery at all, but there is a very small percentage of natural reproduction occurring. So, of the fish that are stocked, Shane is correct, a very large portion return to the Salmon River and the hatchery where they were raised from, however not every single last stocked fish is going to make it back there, its just not possible, so some do take the easy route and enter smaller streams and creeks, like trapper is saying. Erie is another great example of this, Ohio and PA both stopped their salmon stocking programs because a large portion of tagged salmon were being caught in NY streams so why should OH and PA supply NY waters with fish and they stopped. So, this small portion of stocked fish plus the very small percentage of natural reproduction that is occurring (especially on small streams that don't get the pressure and it allows the fish to spawn in peace) is what keeps these small, technically unstocked Ontario streams, with runs of fish each year. Gotta remember the size of the runs are relative to the size of the stream/river. 500 fish in a tiny little stream that is never fished by anyone but you trap may seem like a good amount of fish every year but put that same 500 fish run in the Salmon River and it looks dismal. The point I'm trying to get at is both parties are somewhat right, yes not every single solitary salmonid returns to its natal waters, but its a proven scientific fact that most (something like 90-95%) make it back to their place of origin. And as for the fish that are dumped off the barge, correct me if I'm wrong but are those not usually the fish that were from the pens, which are held in harbors (we have a couple in Olcott) and then dragged out to the lake once they have imprinted in order to add to runs in those waterways? So although yes they are dumped into the middle of the lake they have been artificially imprinted through pen rearing by the DEC and then in fact would not spawn and die out in the middle of the lake but in the waterway that the pens were held in. Again, I could be wrong on that fact, I'm not sure but that was my impression. As for attacking Snag for posting false or misleading info to advertise his livelihood I find that to be completely false. His info is usually spot on and based on his or his clients outcomes on the river. Honestly, if anyone on here has a vested interest in keeping info a little more hush hush its Shane and the few other people that run businesses along the river. By Shane putting up info on this vast thing called the internet he's basically advertising to the whole world you can come to the river and catch fish, but he stands the risk of creating a heard of people up and down the river, killing the fishing for his paying clients. If his posts which in my opinion help the vast majority of us more than it hurts in turn helps him generate another client or 2 then more power to him it's a small return for as much as he contributes to this thread, I'm sorry if you don't see it the same but you don't really need this fishery to put a paycheck in your pocket and food on your table. I sent a pm to my father back in the beginning of salmon season because he gave Shane a bit of grief about how many pictures of dirty old salmon he puts up, a lot of which aren't even his, they are just nice fish that come through his station a lot of times. A little kidding between friends on the board is one thing but its a totally different thing to attack a man's livelihood, that's not right. Rant over
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jeffman again we are talking opinions! I want you to keep that in mind ok ............. you have yours I have mine..... first read back a few of my post. I state I have caught salmon in creeks all the way up to phoenix ny ....in order to get there they travel threw 6 sets of locks ......last I knew the niagra had locks! doesn't lake Huron flow into Erie????? didn't the goby rudd and zebra mussel spread threw this same system ???? I don't believe natural reproduction could ever substain a population of pacific salmon in the great lakes ,neither does the state.....
I have posted pictures of barge stocking some were pen fish I think but what I witnessed was stocking trucks on the barge going out....it's interesting to watch....
again why doesn't 90 to 95 % of the pen raised fish return to the pen nursery and drop their eggs????.....
I just think different then you guys ...I don't believe in big foot , nor the loc ness monster ,nor alantis ,and I sure don't believe that salmon can naturally reproduce in any numbers in the great lakes ...... I don't believe they always return to the same creeks with a 6 since and built in GPS ....and I believe there was only one shooter in the JFK shooting ..... sorry
here is the best part Jeff you can have a totally different opinion then mine and it won't affect how many fish we catch today ...... fish on my friend
and Jeff as far as Shane and myself we are friends we will fish again and Shane can defend himself without your help .....disagreement been over for days why are you getting involved ...go fishing have fun life is short .... Snagger and I are going too.........now enough said lets all behave and not get this tread in trouble ....nice fish guys
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as rg would say........oye ::)
we are talking about half dead mud sharks and and a bunch of put and take trout that people floss all day long
can we please just let it go so we can continue to see the cool pics of the salmon river etc.
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shaddap and go fishing.
There. That's my opinion.
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Browns Sunday Jeff. But where do they spawn? Who cares. They look pretty and fight really well.
Maybe I'll even take a video of you catching one on my new GoPro.
Now, I'm going back to bed seeing that my coughing fit is almost over. Gnight. :sleep1:
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few pics from last couple days.
Nice fish! :clapping: Were those caught in Sage creek? :w00t: ;D
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Nice fish! :clapping: Were those caught in Sage creek? :w00t: ;D
I'm thinking it might be little alder :o
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Coach and filet...or bigspoon and littlespoon😂😂😂
nice fish pics I have grown up middle of oneida and Salmon river and never once attempted to catch a steelhead...after seeing these pics
guess it's time to catch one or five...just hate crowds main reason I've stayed away
just out of high school I did land surveying and did some work along the river and watched the crowds and said not for me...but I'm thinking
one time landing one of these steelhead be on a bucket list
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PG lots of other places to fish , the salmon and Oswego aren't the only places to try but there are miles of the salmon river to fish and with a little walking you can fish some unoccupied water
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Perch gypsy PM sent
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Coach and filet...or bigspoon and littlespoon😂😂😂
nice fish pics I have grown up middle of oneida and Salmon river and never once attempted to catch a steelhead...after seeing these pics
guess it's time to catch one or five...just hate crowds main reason I've stayed away
just out of high school I did land surveying and did some work along the river and watched the crowds and said not for me...but I'm thinking
one time landing one of these steelhead be on a bucket list
We fish the SR Tuesday. Went 7 for 7 and Had 1 person fish within a hundred yds of us all day
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river isn't crowded right now at all , you should go and have fun and couch sage creek is full of fish you just have to know people to fish it
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Nice fish everyone. Weekdays are a better time to fish the SR, or anyplace for sure.... but today was pretty busy in spots because it is a long week-end.
Got 3 Steelhead this morning on what seemed like a tough bite. The first boat that came down and asked how I was doing, I told him I just nailed one. They immediately dropped their anchor and started fishin my water for 15 minutes before moving on. Another boat saw me fighting a fish and anchored within 2 rod lengths of me and started fishing my water also. I am not saying everyone is like that, but I found a few "bad apples" today. I could have walked up or downriver and had plenty of elbow room, but It is still a little tough wading with the ice cold water. and I was In that spot first.
Beads took the bites on floats....left a little early cause my feet were frozen ! Here is one pic from this morning
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Here is a pic I took recently of a steelhead some "sportsman" hauled up to the parking area , but did not want to put it in his fancy SUV I guess. It was left for the buzzards to eat.
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Thanks Choo Choo, I was wondering where I left him. :D :D Nice job BTW
Years ago I was up with a buddy and when we got back to the parking lot, there was a steely in the snowbank. My buddy looked him over and threw him in the back of the truck. Didn't want to waste him.
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hard for me to understand why any steelhead fisherman would do that ....I hope it was some kind of accident and not intentional
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hard for me to understand why any steelhead fisherman would do that ....I hope it was some kind of accident and not intentional
I hear ya trap...kinda broke my heart when I saw it laying there at the parking lot . :cursing:
Thanks Choo Choo, I was wondering where I left him. :D :D Nice job BTW
Years ago I was up with a buddy and when we got back to the parking lot, there was a steely in the snowbank. My buddy looked him over and threw him in the back of the truck. Didn't want to waste him.
Good One kc :rotflol:
Great job by you and kowboy on the fish earlier this week :thumbup_smilie:
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Nice fish, choo choo.
I caught my first steelhead in December, followed by quite a few more, but still haven't gotten one on a float. Looks like fun.
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Nice fish choo
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yup
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Nice fish, choo choo.
I caught my first steelhead in December, followed by quite a few more, but still haven't gotten one on a float. Looks like fun.
Thanks chowdaire, I wasn't on this site much after Early November , but a belated congrats to you on your first steelhead.
Float fishing is a lot of fun and despite what some people might say, it is a real challenge with a 99 % fair ,/real take, hook up ratio. I have to thank Snagger for getting me started and setting me up a few years ago with the right gear, and showing me the correct shot patterns for different water, main line and shot line dual swivel placement , leader lengths, hook choices, float shapes and weights and float adjustment for different water, bead placement, hand checking & hand braking for drag when fighting fish due to dragless pin reels ,and most of all he gave me free casting lessons in his yard! What more can I say, if anyone wants to learn center pin or spin float fishing, just go see Shane, end of story!
I've still got a long way to go, but I would have never got this far without his expertise .
Thanks Fred f&r..& attack
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We saw the same thing last fall at the small train track parking spot by Fulton. Some genius lopped the head off of what had to be a 12+ lb steelhead and put in on top of the concrete barrier. I thought maybe they just cut the head off to clean it but the rest of the fish was laying there on the ground, no filets removed. I could care less if guys keep a legal limit, I don't even care if they clean their fish and toss the carcass in the woods the birds and coyotes gotta eat too. But to carry this nice size fish all the way back to your car just to cut the head off and leave it all in the lot is so messed up to me. Takes a special kind of moron in my book to carry a 10-12 lb fish all the way back to your car for no apparent reason. Only thing I can think of was some savage took it to strip the eggs with no intentions of keeping the fish. Makes me sick
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Side note for all the bead fisherman. Anyone have any luck using the newer soft egg imitations? Steelhead stalkers makes a good one I've heard, I tried the pro-roe by lick 'em lures this past fall with no success but really never tried them as much as I probably should have. Always tied them up too, never tried them as a single egg immitation. Just wondered if anyone tried them with any success yet.
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gel eggs work well.........ya know glue fly works well too it's not as soft as a gel egg but softer then a bead
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only 1 steelhead today 28 inch
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Been fishing the River every day for a couple hours, besides the crowds on Saturday, fishin has been descent, good mixture of fresh fish and droppies, even seen a few more big browns landed in my travels, cold weather and the lower waters are trying too extend this season into April ,it could of of been over by now after the warm winter we just had. Were getting lucky with this nice cooler weather. Heres a few more pics from last few days.
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Dropback bite was pretty good for the boys today, lots of action, almost as good as last thursday....
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Where you been deadeyes?
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I been working and waitin for eye season to open. Looks like you guys been doin good on the steel! Nice pics brotha
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Nice fish. I am hoping to get one last day in on the river Monday.
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I been working and waitin for eye season to open. Looks like you guys been doin good on the steel! Nice pics brotha
remember this day homie.?
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2 Fish Slayers right there...nice picture.
Nice steel too...any chance they will still be in the river in late April ?
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there were a couple there today Steve. I went 2 for 5. Got my first one on centerpin and it came on a bead I made last night.
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there were a couple there today Steve. I went 2 for 5. Got my first one on centerpin and it came on a bead I made last night.
Nice job kc ! :thumbup_smilie:
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remember this day homie.?
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Yes sir! I should get up there to hit the river with ya!
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hit the river yesterday got 28 inch steel
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Went out for a few hours this morning. Started off at Pineville not even a take there. So I moved down river a few times from then when my friend didn't show. It was a good day only one drop back hen. But 3 browns and I lost my biggest brown I have ever hooked in the salmon river. I will blame it on cold hands. now there is a nice raven float in the tree behind where I was standing to mark my spot. I had a couple I missed not bad for a few hours fishing.
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Fished Thursday morning in lower river, lots of people out. Fish are getting shiny, but i only got two in four hours. Still nice to have the sun on my face and feel the pull of the steelhead. Probably going to be a zoo this weekend...
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Good to meet you snagger, nice accomidations over there!
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I found a few steelhead in the Pineville area on Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning. All nice females. Didn't see a male landed all weekend?
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very nice tuna ^5
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Nice healthy looking fish!
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On my way home took a quick run along the river lots of fishermen steel heading today
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give it a few weeks or so and the bronze babys will be taking over
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Hey Trap, gonna give it a try this year. How far up river do the small mouths make it? do they run the whole river or just the bottom half? Thanks
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well I can swear to it that a few make it to the sportsman hole lol ......
smallmouths are born with a homeing instinct so they run the same rivers they were born ...... :rotflol: theres been studies you know
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I have also caught them throughout most of the river. Some spots are better than others as always. But it is one of my favorite things to do during the summer too. Just need some wading shoes a fly rod and a day off work and the rivers is yours to explore.
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Nice fish tuna meltdown
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Hi there. It kills me that this thread is dead, so I thought I would ask the question. Who caught a Steelhead in the Salmon River last. In other words what was the last time you caught a stealhead on the Salmon? I caught a couple on May 25th, who can beat that (perfect opening for you Snagger)?
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The last day I caught a couple of steelhead on the Salmon River was the same day (late April I think) I got a speeding ticket on the way home. Haven't been back since.
First one ever and I have been driving 50 plus years.
I will be back in the fall though. It will just take me a little longer. No more speeding for me.
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Float rods with crayfish under a float won't work for smallies on the river! :whistling:
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Float rods with crayfish under a float won't work for smallies on the river! :whistling:
Neither will Prichards baits new hellgrimite ::) ::) :whistling: :afro:
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KP try this ;D
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Hmmm..... :whistling: :whistling: :whistling:
Your motor will be done this weekend. I'll call you when it's ready! 8)
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Neither will Prichards baits new hellgrimite ::) ::) :whistling: :afro:
Perch don't like 'em either!😝😎
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KP take your time buddy no hurry I been playing in the kayak ;D
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Hello out there fishermen! This thread has been dead. When I first moved to Pulaski in 2001 the salmon had already been in by this time for a week! Prior to that I can remember catching limits of salmon before Labor Day. What's the earliest any of you has caught a salmon in the river?
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I remember 1 year in the 80s, opening day of snagging, 8/15 and the Tressle Pool was loaded with salmon. ???
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4 years ago Friday August 17th.........I think we landed around 7....Hooked a bunch
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Snagger may not be fishing much but he sure is making a lot of local, and national weather news ,with his storm chasing.... ;D ;D
He got a great video last night of the storm coming through with a large rotation in it...
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My earliest fish on the Salmon was on August 10Th, 2001 on the estuary below the 103 bridge. I was surprised to see a pod of fish swimming below the bridge. Got a feeling it will take the extra water of Labor Day to get them moving this year. Based on what the boats are doing, I am not expecting a good year, but hope springs eternal...
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I got clips from the news paper with some buds, 1 was August 7 in 1978 and another posted in the paper aug 17 , 1981 so I believe they were caught a few days before , taken from the willow tree hole (Barclays)to the staircase
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they have not even showed up in the lake yet,last year was bad,this year was way worse!!!!!so far.
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Let see not to long ago guys were catching fair numbers of them in the eastern basin
Pull up the Lake Ontario page and read some of those reports , this may help
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There's a few around.
26#
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23#
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Also hit a 22 as the sun went down but no pic.
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Great job Chwdaire , nice and healthy looking
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Nice job chow!
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Nice job Chow!!! rain today might be enough to start a few fish moving??
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Nice job chow. Bigredfishing and I gave it a really good go yesterday and got the skunk!
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Thanks. Got a couple more the same size in the first hour Saturday morning then it died for me. I don't know much about these salmon and what will get them moving but I can tell you I never saw a screen so loaded with fish as I saw out there Friday night. Almost as many fish as there were boats chasing them on Saturday.
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u were lucky to get that salmon in ur clip from fly to the spin doctor is open!! those new clips suk on the spin doctors not wide enough to move around
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How far out were they? Can't wait until they reach the river...
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Nice job Chow! I have been out and not done well...broke off one fish that was pretty disappointing, I must have had a nick in the line somewhere...I agree I marked piles of big fish everywhere but I couldn't find any cold water. You did well! I also found a fray on both my down rigger cables...I'm glad they didn't break off, I had to cut them above and re-terminate...I stopped at Woody's and bought a couple new weapons, I should be ready to go for next time...
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u were lucky to get that salmon in ur clip from fly to the spin doctor is open!! those new clips suk on the spin doctors not wide enough to move around
Wow. You got zoomed in on that. Good eye. Not sure when it opened but luckily I saw it and closed it before sending it back out.
Fish are out from probably 100-200fow. Wouldn't think it'll take en long to run the 3 miles to the rivers once they're ready.
Thanks, hunt. Fish were picky. All at the same depth with basically the same setup. Dragged a bunch of other stuff around and nothing else moved.
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Chowdaire your In Box is full!
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Chowdaire your In Box is full!
All better now.
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if that rain raised that water I'd be looking
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can't wait for the steelhead . not looking for salmon.
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Think your right Trapp
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I wouldn't be surprised if some moved in. I would rather have them stack up in the lake for a while longer though. :evil:
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It is really fun to have them hit flat lining
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It is really fun to have them hit flat lining
That's how I first started fishing them last year. Flat lining with my walleye rods in 15fow. The first one hit and I couldn't believe it. Just full speed in the other direction, and the boat was barely moving forward so my jaw dropped when I heard that drag screaming.
Can't wait to do it again, although I'll use some heavier gear this year. I've got my braid dipsy rods and just bought upgraded hooks and split rings. They mangled the heck out of standard gear last year. Broke a couple of plugs in half too.
All worth it though.
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That's how I first started fishing them last year. Flat lining with my walleye rods in 15fow. The first one hit and I couldn't believe it. Just full speed in the other direction, and the boat was barely moving forward so my jaw dropped when I heard that drag screaming.
Can't wait to do it again, although I'll use some heavier gear this year. I've got my braid dipsy rods and just bought upgraded hooks and split rings. They mangled the heck out of standard gear last year. Broke a couple of plugs in half too.
All worth it though.
That sounds like a blast Chow!! I might just have to try it
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That sounds like a blast Chow!! I might just have to try it
X2!!!
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It is really fun to have them hit flat lining
When do they start getting that shallow, the dipsy rigs are fun but I would love to nail some flatlining!
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When you start seeing them Hitting the river,then you know there are some around the mouth or the guys start posting their results , keep an eye on this thread , I'll tell ya , you will never forget the strike , if they are good ones it can be a struggle getting the rod out of the holder at times , we use to do our best on J-plugs , the good ol silver bullet , but there are other choices , trust me it's a hoot
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When you start seeing them Hitting the river,then you know there are some around the mouth or the guys start posting their results , keep an eye on this thread , I'll tell ya , you will never forget the strike , if they are good ones it can be a struggle getting the rod out of the holder at times , we use to do our best on J-plugs , the good ol silver bullet , but there are other choices , trust me it's a hoot
Oh I do trust you, I plug for stripers alot but this sounds like it will get the blood boiling. Thanks much for the info! I habe the right boat 19'6 alumacraft but I have yet to "rigger" it up so to speak so its dipsys and flatlining for me.
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I'll tell snag he needs to start reporting on here besides his FB page ,these days the eyes take up most of my fall , we all have our hang ups , ;D
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Freddie remember the silver bullet j plugs you droped the glow stick in ! those were my favorite ....
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I'll tell snag he needs to start reporting on here besides his FB page ,these days the eyes take up most of my fall , we all have our hang ups , ;D
Dont blame you. Bigredfishing was nice enough to get me addicted to those fish too. Too many species, too little time!
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George O'Brien reported catching his first salmon of the year in the river this morning.
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Cool ,so now it begins
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It's on!!! :thumbup_smilie:
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Freddie remember the silver bullet j plugs you droped the glow stick in ! those were my favorite ....
Yes sir ,
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I knew that rain would get a few up the river I heard a few caught in Oswego too
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Freddie, you up for some shark fishing?😈
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I think maybe next week
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I don't know guys I heard those king salmon don't hit but I hear some guys can drift a line into their mouths lift straight up and a perfect legal hook up happens!!!! i'm just wondering if theres any truth to this rumor
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I don't know guys I heard those king salmon don't hit but I hear some guys can drift a line into their mouths lift straight up and a perfect legal hook up happens!!!! i'm just wondering if theres any truth to this rumor
Is that what is referred to as "flossing"?
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Is that what is referred to as "flossing"?
I'm not sure about the terminology ;D
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Last time I was up I noticed a lot of kings attack flies with their dorsal fin or tail before eating. Must be trying to stun them first. ;D
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some things never change ....have fun :thumbup_smilie:
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I don't know guys I heard those king salmon don't hit but I hear some guys can drift a line into their mouths lift straight up and a perfect legal hook up happens!!!! i'm just wondering if theres any truth to this rumor
the ones I hook in the mouth i call Biters!! ;D :whistling:
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me too
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All I know is if they are fair caught you can keep and foul hooked ones get released
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Is "flossing" a form of "fishing"?
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I didn't know they liked mint thanks for the info
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Your killing me FFP....... :rotflol:
But I find myself using this very affective method (flossing) at least once a year... ;)
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And they like yellow line....................... ::)
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FFP that cracked me up man ...thank you
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come on guys,
gonna start this again?
some of em bite so hard it pops out their arse.
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Sharks love mint!
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Just went to rite aid in Pulaski and they were all out of mint floss ???
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I don't know guys I heard those king salmon don't hit but I hear some guys can drift a line into their mouths lift straight up and a perfect legal hook up happens!!!! i'm just wondering if theres any truth to this rumor
nah! 😄
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Got out for a few hours with my mom tonight and went 1/1. Not a big one but perfect size for the smoker.
This one did not require any floss. ;D
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Nice Bruce!
Walked the river from the Black hole to the Staricase and didn't see a fish, but I did manage to break my pole when my sinker struck my rod getting a snag out of a tree. Surprised we didn't run into a pod of 50 on the way back actually. Stopped in and shot the nuts with Shane and he told me there was a 1 year warranty on the rod, so I took it to Pineville sport shop and even though it is a company warranty they did me good and replaced the top of my rod free. Great customer service gets repeat customers. Great shop friendly staff and everything you need to fish the river.
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Nice job, Bruce! Looks like a perfect afternoon.
Probably going to be a busy weekend out there.
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Got out for a few hours with my mom tonight and went 1/1. Not a big one but perfect size for the smoker.
This one did not require any floss. ;D
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Very nice Bruce! You get that one on topwater? ;D
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SALMON LIVES MATTER!😨
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even your dentist will tell you ,you need to floss!!!!
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Nice job, Bruce! Looks like a perfect afternoon.
Probably going to be a busy weekend out there.
Thanks. The weather was perfect.
It will be busy this weekend for sure but the fishing should be good. I hope you hammer them!
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Nice fish Bruce , it's not always about the biggest , your right just right for the smoker
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Nice Bruce! Attempted to go out this morning, the launch was packed with boats...none in which were headed out. Some good swells from the storms last night with a good chop building on top with the solid NW wind...went to breakfast and back home...another attempt tomorrow...the weather should be good...the lake will be a war zone....
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That my first salmon trip in a few years!
Good luck this weekend. It should be good. I am hoping to get out one more time before the end.
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That my first salmon trip in a few years!
Good luck this weekend. It should be good. I am hoping to get out one more time before the end.
Congrats! I am looking to scratch that off the list, possibly next Tuesday...shame it comes with a 8 hr round trip of driving or I'd be out there all the time!
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reeleyz sure wish I could go fishing with my mom or pops one more time .... thanks for sharing buddy ...... and bye the way that fish will be a trophy when you look back some day .....I enjoyed the trip down memory lane :thumbup_smilie: :clapping:
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Nice job Bruce!
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Thanks guys.
Thanks for the kind words trapper. We have a lot of fun fishing and hunting together.
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Nice Bruce!
Walked the river from the Black hole to the Staricase and didn't see a fish, but I did manage to break my pole when my sinker struck my rod getting a snag out of a tree. Surprised we didn't run into a pod of 50 on the way back actually. Stopped in and shot the nuts with Shane and he told me there was a 1 year warranty on the rod, so I took it to Pineville sport shop and even though it is a company warranty they did me good and replaced the top of my rod free. Great customer service gets repeat customers. Great shop friendly staff and everything you need to fish the river.
Pineville Sports is a great shop to deal with. The handle on my Lamson fly reel broke off one year while fighting a fish and I thought my day was over and stopped in to have them take a look at it. 10 minutes later, the reel was fixed with a spare handle from an Okuma they had lying around and didn't even charge me. I gave the guy a tip and went back out fishing for the rest of the day.
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ya might want to check a few pools out ,just saying
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bikinis or salmintruders
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Awful quiet here...
I fished off of Sandy Pond last night on my father in laws boat. I have never marked so many fish. I kept joking with him asking if his graph was in simulator mode. We never moved a rod in 2 hours.
Tonight I took my wife and son on my boat out of Oz. We went 1/2. This one is getting canned and that is all the salmon I need!
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Nice job, Bruce! Looks like a beautiful night out with the family.
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Great pic and nice salmon!
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Nice to see you had some luck Bruce and family
That fish will put up several jars
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Canned eh? Pressure cooker? Oh, Nice fish bud ;D How deep were they off the pond?
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Canned eh? Pressure cooker? Oh, Nice fish bud ;D How deep were they off the pond?
Yes pressure cooker. It comes out like tuna fish. Great for sandwiches and salmon patties.
90' - 110', loaded with fish. Rain today and a cool down coming... ;)
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I didn't know they liked mint thanks for the info
Oh yeah........cinnamon tooth picks to hold the cut bait in the hoods is the ticket. ;)
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Good job Bruce!
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just wondering is there a reason we are not saying theres some fish in the river????
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just wondering is there a reason we are not saying theres some fish in the river????
It's all Super Secret! SSSHHHHHH! ::) -Paul
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just wondering is there a reason we are not saying theres some fish in the river????
They need to stay out front for 1 more weekend for this guy!!!
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Nice fish Bruce. Now is it a pressure cooker or a pressure canner you use?
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Nice fish Bruce. Now is it a pressure cooker or a pressure canner you use?
It is actually a pressure canner. Works great for venison too. ;D
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It is actually a pressure canner. Works great for venison too. ;D
Love those things... ;D
Let me find a good picture...
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Love those things... ;D
Let me find a good picture...
Oh jeez. I just got the image out of my head! OUCH!
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just wondering is there a reason we are not saying theres some fish in the river????
You been catchin? Pics please....
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Nice fish Bruce. Now is it a pressure cooker or a pressure canner you use?
If you're going to eat the fish right away the pressure cooker is a good tool too. I love the way it softens fish bones so you don't have to worry about them. I've used the pressure cooker for trout, pike, and pickerel- especially good for these fish that have those pinbones that are really hard to fillet out.
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Theres a difference between a pressure cooker and a pressure canner... And most fish need to be done in a canner.... But buy a nice new one.... 23 years ago this weekend I had a old pressure canner blow up on me and spent 5 nights in Syracuse burn unit... They grafted live pig skin over my burns to prevent scaring... This was 10 days after it happened...
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wow ...what exactly caused it to blow?
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Son of a biscuit! :-\
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The gauge said no pressure so I took the lid off.. The lid bent the range hood into a v. 4 of the 5 quarts blew out and exploded on the floor burning our legs.. thank goodness my wife only got a little but I took the blunt of it..
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only because I do some canning and I have a healthy fear of the pressure canner when I use it I ask .... wasn't the vent lock popped up telling you the canner still had pressure in it?????
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Nope.. This one only had a pressure gauge and a screw on lid...
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Wow, glad you were all right. And good of you to post this as a warning.
I think I personnaly will avoid any pressure cooker/canners.
Amazing about the grafts from pigs too.
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Holy crap!!
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UglyStik the new models are a lot more safer.... ;D
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Anyone read the river article in the latest field and stream ? Some more national coverage should be great for the town ;-). Must be a misprint about the chromer limit.
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well thank goodness it wasn't worse and it's a blessing your wife wasn't burned as bad ..... makes me think ...check and recheck and follow all safty instructions and yes the new ones are safer with the pressure vent lock you can see theres still pressure in the canner ....
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Geeze, you're a walking, talking football Dom!
Think I'll stick with a hot water canner. You're a tough old bird to recover. Glad you did.
Rg
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Geeze, you're a walking, talking football Dom!
Think I'll stick with a hot water canner. You're a tough old bird to recover. Glad you did.
Rg
Wow is right. If I read this right, Dom is part man, part bacon.
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Wow is right. If I read this right, Dom is part man, part bacon.
LOL I'll agree with that :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :w00t:
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What ever.... :P
Yeah stick an apple in my mouth,I'm done.. :P :P :P
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Holy sht Dom you were lucky you weren't blinded
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hey the Thursday they released water to 335 cfs and fish tonight at 10 pm the water is supposed to go to 750 cfs we should have some fish on the way ;D
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Anyone read the river article in the latest field and stream ? Some more national coverage should be great for the town ;-). Must be a misprint about the chromer limit.
Did not see the article what did it say the limit was....
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lake Ontario and it's tribs one steelhead or rainbow
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In the field and stream story The writers buddy had 2 steelies on a rope and was getting photos and such . No real pics in the story .
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In the field and stream story The writers buddy had 2 steelies on a rope and was getting photos and such . No real pics in the story .
Legally your only allowed 1 limit per stringer
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I think the Niagara river and it's tribs is still 3 fish and combo ....but Ontario and tribs one steelhead or bow is it .... hey speaking of misprints and screw ups watching distnation America in the morning think it was wil\nlkman had a bow hunting show guy climbing out of the tree stand with bow and quiver strapped to his back ...... I couldn't believe it....just becacue it's on tv or in field and stream doesn't make it legal or safe
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Bigredfishing put in a monumental effort and helped me get my first king ever. Many thanks Lance!
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Nice healthy fish , good job bigred getting low his first
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:thumbup_smilie: nice now finish your trip on a real positive note and hit Rudi's in Oswego for a texas hot and a cold beer .... nice fish
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Well done fellas.
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Congrats on your first king, lowaccord!
That's a good looking fish.
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Thanks guys. Its going into the smoker now and im having a few pops. Nothing better! ;D ;D ;D
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Awesome job lowacord! :clapping:
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that pic did come out good! nice fish bro, you were the one that did all the work, I just had to drive the boat. Great trip, we learned a lot.
here's a lil' steelie that also approved of our program
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nice lil chrome!!!! glad you both did well and enjoyed yourselves only thing I want to know bigred is how long did he have that smile
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Trap I am still smiling, especially now that im almost done....1 more hr at 170 with light smoke...
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low you were so excited about going i'm glad you hooked up but I figured you would , now come back and steelhead fish the river with us ;D
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Bigredfishing put in a monumental effort and helped me get my first king ever. Many thanks Lance!
BOOOOM!! Awesome Salmon Jon!! Congrats on a great fish Bro! :-)
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Bigredfishing put in a monumental effort and helped me get my first king ever. Many thanks Lance!
Awesome fish Jon! Now go get one in the river where you have to fight current and 100 other lines too. Whole different experience
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Awesome fish Jon! Now go get one in the river where you have to fight current and 100 other lines too. Whole different experience
Yup...Big difference than dragging them behind a boat..
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Awesome fish Jon! Now go get one in the river where you have to fight current and 100 other lines too. Whole different experience
Sounds like it man, don't forget where my favorite place to fish is. Cape cod canal...can be very similar fishing!
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river can be fun low for me the fly rod rules ...but as far as the fight nothing like a king making a run out in the big O and I hate trolling with a passion ,but that's really where it's at .....
was a bunch of fish in the lower part of the river ,fresh silver bullets ;D kinda slowed down yesterday after they slowed the water down ... water was 425 cfs yesterday not sure this morning good luck
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One from the lower river Friday
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nice looking fish ,been fish in the river rather surprise no one has been reporting much
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One or two here and there, surprising that they are so clean. Not really worth a drive yet unless
you just want to spend time on the river. Soon!
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I think I will have to go this weekend....lots of fish or not. where did the summer go? haven't been out but twice all summer!!!
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Nice fish Jim
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slow start but it will go
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Nice looking king Nightfisher.
Seems like there should be a good run soon. We need a prolonged period of rain and a cool down.
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This big rain ought to to do something
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Getting hammered over there?
Send some this way....
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It's coming your way.
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Good, we only have 2 days of water left in the pond to water plants at the nesuery. Then switch over to the 3 Wells which cost a fortune to run.. :P
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Pouring in the CUSE.
I agree Fred, this outta get them moving. Get the floss ready!
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1.3 inches in Altmar. Waters running real cloudy.
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Yup coming down good here. See how much I get in the rain gauges..
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Tomorrow is the day for the first run...
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hey Freddie do you think them salmon will hit black glo bug yarn as well as they do black sponge????? :rotflol:
Come on trap those salmon in the river don't hit!!! :D
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hey Freddie do you think them salmon will hit black glo bug yarn as well as they do black sponge????? :rotflol:
All I can say is 7 outta 10 recommend black for for a successful trip the other 3 used blue
Trapp you might be onto something with the black glo
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i am into black also,have not did the blue thing
;D ;D ;D
RAT
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95% of the fish we get low are hooked in the mouth !!!!! :thumbup_smilie:
100% if the fished hooked in the mouth were biters!!! :o ;D
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Even in the post standard today mentioned black 👍
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Call me crazy.....many have!! I actually tie Green or Orange Butt Skunk flies.........mostly black fly!!! There must be a lot of those in the lake 'cause the Salmon love them!!
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If you put eyes on them they may dodge the strike
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Fished Saturday for a while didn't see or hook any fish..still slow ..but I'll head back up in a week or 2 need rain and cooler temps..
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friend did real well yesturday
around 2a bridge area apparently off the rt3 bridge
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I'll be up on the 6th for the weekend. Things should be good by then as always. Getting excited
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I'll be up on the 6th for the weekend. Things should be good by then as always. Getting excited
Good luck.
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Nothing in Oswego I checked ..
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guys hammered them at black hole this morning, action died around 9am according to Shane
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I fished the river yesterday afternoon from the town pool to the ballpark and saw 1 fish landed in 3.5 hours. There was a push early I heard, not big numbers but if you were in the right spot you had a good shot at one. Decent number in the estuary, they moved up and as of 1030 last night no new pods have moved in. There is a few fish, but big numbers is a bit of an exaggeration. Snagger is calling for a big push Sunday night, I'd say if you are planning a weekday trip Monday or Tuesday would be the ticket.
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Fished the mouth last night with my kids.. hooked 7 other fish n landed this one 8)
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I got 4 yesterday and was eating breakfast at 9:30 you got to go in the morning before they get beat on
and this is exactly why no one wants to post
Love to see a pic of that Trapp ;D And why would that make anyone not want to post?
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Fished the mouth last night with my kids.. hooked 7 other fish n landed this one 8)
I love to fish the mouth at night, possibly my favorite way to salmon fish. Great pic bud, side note I hunt your neck of the woods, every year my friends and I camp in Cuyler for 4 days and fill a meat pole ::) 8) Been going down there for 30 years, Love them hills man.
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Any salmon in the river yet? ;D
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Any salmon in the river yet? ;D
That's what I was wondering.. ::)
Last year we fished the willow hole October 3rd hooked 2 and landed 0..
But we had our kids so it was a new experience..
I got a question about the nice white haired man who owns the white camp.. How far into the water does he own?
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Did I say no fish? Old age is taking it's tool on you Trapp :-* :-* :-*
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That's what I was wondering.. ::)
Last year we fished the willow hole October 3rd hooked 2 and landed 0..
But we had our kids so it was a new experience..
I got a question about the nice white haired man who owns the white camp.. How far into the water does he own?
That would be a question for Shane maybe. I don't fish that far down river.
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mmmmmmmm I don't see your name in any of my post .... perhaps something is taking it's toll on you .....paranoid????
My apologies, surely you didn't mean me. You can see how I came to that conclusion as you and I are the only ones who reported besides fishslayer who had a fish. ::) ::)
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Easy gentleman! Too early for Salmon Wars! ;D
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I believe Mr. Barclay is the only one who actually owns part of the river, The guy on the island seems to think he does.
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Easy gentleman! Too early for Salmon Wars! ;D
Oh let me have some fun with ole Trapp Homey :w00t:
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Congrats to Kp Jr. You must be the proudest Pappa on the planet ;D
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Oh let me have some fun with ole Trapp Homey :w00t:
play nice! :afro:
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play nice! :afro:
Fine..... Sorry ;D
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Congrats to Kp Jr. You must be the proudest Pappa on the planet ;D
Thanks Eddie! I read your FB replies to Josh. Good to see you have his back! That boy tore it up bass fishing this summer! He'll move on to bigger things with his passion....Mom and I have no doubt! A couple more tourneys and then he's done for the fall. If there is open water at x-mas...look for the blue and white Nitro....that's Josh!😎 Life is Good!
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Did I say no fish? Old age is taking it's tool on you Trapp :-* :-* :-*
Easy now taking its what 😳
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Fine..... Sorry ;D
lol!
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Thanks Eddie! I read your FB replies to Josh. Good to see you have his back! That boy tore it up bass fishing this summer! He'll move on to bigger things with his passion....Mom and I have no doubt! A couple more tourneys and then he's done for the fall. If there is open water at x-mas...look for the blue and white Nitro....that's Josh!😎 Life is Good!
He's a great kid always enjoy his posts. I have no doubt I'll be seeing him on TV soon ;D
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Easy now taking its what 😳
OMG! Freddie you beat me to it! Lmao!😂
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Easy now taking its what 😳
LOL Good catch ;D ;D ;D ;D I have a feeling I'll be hearing that on the ice in the future.... Hey Dot's don't let the tough bite take it's tool on you LOL
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Great.....
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Eddie, we're you on the river at 11:00 yesterday?
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Eddie, we're you on the river at 11:00 yesterday?
No Adam and I got there around 4
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No Adam and I got there around 4
read my signature bud!😜
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Sorry Edd , like you'd let me get away with that 🤔
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Sorry Edd , like you'd let me get away with that 🤔
Perhaps you have a point..... Amusing
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S.L.M.! ;D
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S.L.M.! ;D
LOL
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Fished river on Sunday with my kid...my youngest hooked 3 n landed 1 and my oldest hooked 2 n wasn't able to land any n I hooked 11 n landed a limit 8)
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, , nice fish , great smiles on the young men slayer ,
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Fished river on Sunday with my kid...my youngest hooked 3 n landed 1 and my oldest hooked 2 n wasn't able to land any n I hooked 11 n landed a limit 8)
Nice job!!! As good as life gets for the kids.
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Awesome job Slayer!!! ;D ;D Time with your kids is the best time spent!!!
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Great job with the youngsters! 😎
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Must of been a pretty Awesome show you and your boys put on.
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Awesome pics, that is what it's all about ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Nice fish slayer give me a ring buddy..
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great photo of the boys, and SOME real nice fish
;D ;D ;D
RAT
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Very cool slayer!
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Thanks all for comments....my boys have done tons of fishing n hunting from a very young age for lots of different critters n know more about the game were chasing than most grown men due to that fact I'm the only parent that's around for them for last 7 yrs so they go where I go n I go a lot!!
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Thanks all for comments....my boys have done tons of fishing n hunting from a very young age for lots of different critters n know more about the game were chasing than most grown men due to that fact I'm the only parent that's around for them for last 7 yrs so they go where I go n I go a lot!!
Thats awesome!! 👍🏼
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Nice pics. Looks like the boys had a good time.
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Well Pulaski was full of fishermen today , don't know how good the fishing was , I watched my 6 year old grandson play football 💪
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I'd rather watch a youth football game! ;)
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Your right KP and I got some nice pics
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I will be trying the trib at the rt3 bridge from a boat for the first time. Have no idea what im doing, not afraid to admit it. Any advise or tips. I have assorted spoons to use. Looking for rig set up and weight info. Thanks you
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floating cranks with 1 single hook is allowed. spoons or lures that don't float at rest are not allowed this time of year. Jointed Rapalas, flicker shads, hot n tots all work. Drifting egg sacs through the pods of fish isnt a bad idea either.
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Thank you very much hornet as I just set up my rod's last night with spoons on each one. I will be changing them up with this new info you gave me. Like I said we have no idea what we are doing and this will be our first time trying from the boat.
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aj,read the special regulations for the salmon river in the regulations guide.. Page 48... ;)
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Definitely worth reading....there lots of laws for that river >:(
Down in the estuary I use floro leader with good sharp egg hook n few stinkers to keep in place with bright colored foam balls (almost all bait shop carry up there) them cast n wait. ....make sure ur drag is loose they take off like drag car!!!!
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...there lots of laws for that river >:(
And lots of eyes watching for someone to brake those special laws..
Good luck. I will be over that way this weekend..
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Lots of officers on the river isn't really anything new , , they are mostly concentrating on the river due to low water conditions
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Lots of officer on the river isn't really anything new , , they are mostly concentrating on the river due to low water conditions
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ATTENTION
9/28/2016
We regret to report that starting tomorrow 9/29/16 the flow at the dam will be reduced to 185 CFS due to low water levels in the Salmon River Reservoir until further notice. Below is a link to the public notice from Brookfield Renewable.
http://www.h2oline.com/srcs/PUBLIC%20NOTICE_SALMON
Per douglaston report
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Let's hope for some rain....
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Plenty of fish in the river .gonna be easy pickings for all the ropers..were suppose to get rain but it's not going to rain that way to much..
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Mabe I'll find a few Saturday. Heard a decent amount of coho came into the DSR on Wednesday. :clapping: :clapping:
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Those cohos will scoot up the river even in this low water , , have fun guys
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I'll be up next Thursday. Glad to hear they're finally starting to move. These cooler nights should help too
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I was just at the river and the water has been dripped in half from 335 cfs at the d**n to 185 cps ...it's going to hurt real bad ....anyone interested in my success your welcome to e mail me here.....
this don't look good
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I was just at the river and the water has been dripped in half from 335 cfs at the d**n to 185 cps ...it's going to hurt real bad ....anyone interested in my success your welcome to e mail me here.....
this don't look good
I saw a press release from the DEC (or water its called in NY) that they are doing this to allow the reservoir to get back to normal levels. Unless there is a good amount of rain the flows could remain low for a while. I'll be up there in early November so I'm really hoping we get a bunch of rain in Oct.
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All we can do is make the best of what we got
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So far the lower water flow hasn't slowed down the fish. Today's DSR reports a good number of fish entered the river today. :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
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So far the lower water flow hasn't slowed down the fish. Today's DSR reports a good number of fish entered the river today. :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
what ever you say AL
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So that means black hole is going to be an absolute zoo being the first pool above dsr
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Good luck Ryan...I kicked the king habit for a while to enjoy some fall rin stripers. I hear there are still numbers of kings out deep still.
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L66 don't blame ya they taste much better
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L66 don't blame ya they taste much better
Funny thing is my daughter (below getting some practice in on the Farmington River) loves the salmon and striper......the only time she complains about me being gone fishing is when I dont bring any back.
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Very cool pic 👍
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what ever you say AL
Hey. The DSR don't lie. Now they say a guy had 100 hookups yesterday. For a measly amount of $75 a day they will let you find out for yourself. ;D ;D ;D
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Yowza those fish must have been on a feed frenzy
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I went down to only 3 hook ups today I could have seeked and destroyed but I'm to old .....the water hurt us today I did get 2 nice cohos that looked beautiful ..............low great picture :thumbup_smilie:
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DEC released a statement today/yesterday - (https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/NYSDEC/bulletins/16822b1)
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yup fishforpike it's tough the water at dame is 185 cfs and at the ball diamond I think it was said to be around 250 cfs ......pretty low
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Fished Wednesday before the slow down and had a blast! First time with a fly rod and after a few hours of wrapping the line around my neck, hooking myself in the waders and even taking a small bath, things started to work themselves out! Even managed to land a few of the fish I hooked into! Great time and thanks to all the guys who offered their generous help and advice! Needless to say, I'm hooked on the Fly! 😃
MK
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that is Awesome!!!! I'm glad you had such a good time
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Great job Mike.. I will be over that way in about 10 hours...
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Nice job, Mike! ;D
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Thank you Gentlemen! 😃
MK
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Been sitting in the port for 20mins and there's a few fish jumping..
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good luck dacker :thumbup_smilie:
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Been sitting in the port for 20mins and there's a few fish jumping..
Good luck Dom! :-)
MK
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We had some luck and and got to land a few each... Got to the port real early and all ready two boats there... We got a spot and sat in the dark for over an hour and listened to all the fish jumping.. A lot of people showed up and the tangles begun.. :P Saw all the epics from someone losing a rod in the water,which was never found ,to anchor ropes in props to guys casting over people with a fish on the line ... My two went from 9 to 16 pounds and Deans were in between that.. Good day but I hate the crowds...
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Nice work Mike and Dom.
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Good job! ;D
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THOSE ARE THE BIGGEST BROWN TROUT I EVER SEEN :thumbup_smilie:
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THOSE ARE THE BIGGEST BROWN TROUT I EVER SEEN :thumbup_smilie:
That's what I thought also, but isn't one a steelhead? ::)
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Nice work Dom! :-)
MK
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cant you tell a steelhead from a salmon
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after really looking at them and I went to the dec fish id site ...I think they are both steelheads
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Nice fish (not naming species) Dom. Salmon season always has some entertainment value.
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after really looking at them and I went to the dec fish id site ...I think they are both steelheads
Lmbo , fish on trapp 👍
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not a lot of water in Oswego but it is producing fish!!!! I fished it last 2 days and caught fish both days ,lot of guys using floats and cured eggs and doing rather well ( everything is available right at the salmon shop ............
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not a lot of water in Oswego but it is producing fish!!!! I fished it last 2 days and caught fish both days ,lot of guys using floats and cured eggs and doing rather well ( everything is available right at the salmon shop ............
We're the skein walkers out? That was crazy to see them last year walking up and down the wall all day. They definitely caught fish though
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Sunday was a little slow considering how many fish were in there but ended up 1 for 3 with the last one coming on my very last cast. 36# female that didn't leave the net until I paddled back to shore in my kayak with the lure still in its mouth. It's tough to put the kayak away but I think my next trip will be in the faster water and dealing with the yahoo's but it is fun schooling them until they get frustrated and start casting over my line while fighting a fish. (https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi173.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw70%2Fc2palazzoli%2FPicture1004162218_1_zps40jrs2ap.jpg&hash=07e869f4889fcff78efaf947405f67b0)
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was in Oswego again this morning,lot of hook up everyone was having fun up by the dam
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stopped in to the salmon shop and got some slingy rope ....I was checking out a new rod ....mmmmmmmmmmmm maybe ;D
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See you guys tomorrow. Can't wait
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Oswego ...water is 876 cfs which means very slow on the high wall you need a float and skein ....(available at larrys salmon shop) if you go up to the dam don't forget your life jacket ! the safety stewards are there to provide information.... larry has a great deal on new corkers too !
salmon river is still at summer levels 185 cfs being released I think 235 at Pineville ....
hope you have fun and stay safe
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We are heading out to the Salmon River Sunday-Tuesday. Hoping to get into some fish. Conditions and crowds sound brutal.
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Maybe some rain on Saturday, fingers crossed.
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Fat Nancy's is reporting a big push of kings entering the DSR today. I'll be up all weekend. Hope they like my flies. ;D ;D ;D
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I love doing the wall walk in Oswego. Done it a bunch of times since we've been going up to Pulaski. We do quite a bit of float fishing so we fit right in with that group. And we usually do very well. My buddy got a 12-13# hen downstream from the kiddie pool in the rapids a few years ago. We have never even bothered to go up to the dam or the spillway because we've always done so well off the high wall
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Freddie get yer black sponge out and lets go rope 50 to 60 fish till we hurt some time
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Freddie get yer black sponge out and lets go rope 50 to 60 fish till we hurt some time
Trapp you have been doing pretty well on those black glo yarn flies you tied up , it must be good fishing to keep you out of a tree
I need to tie up some of my maroon sponge flies , the blacks are done , I'll be seeing ya soon my friend
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Any fish up at the hatchery yet? Want to take the grandson up to see them.
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Any fish up at the hatchery yet? Want to take the grandson up to see them.
Welcome to the site, you might want to call them for best results.. 315-298-5051
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yes----fish are at the altmar
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Trapp you have been doing pretty well on those black glo yarn flies you tied up , it must be good fishing to keep you out of a tree
I need to tie up some of my maroon sponge flies , the blacks are done , I'll be seeing ya soon my friend
oh I been doing both Freddie ............... seen a couple nice browns and steelies caught today down to Oswego .....anyone ever use that fire cure on eggs ,I'm just wondering if it's worth the money of just another borax salt and food coloring mix
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Among all the rest of the fish I hooked today, I got my first NY brown today down at Oswego. Pretty cool even if it is a smaller one. Couldn't have asked for a nicer day on the water
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Nice day for you. I'm waiting for steelies in november
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omg ravo you walked right by ne today when you walked across the power house and said that! your first ny brown and I asked you if you had a brown permit ....lol wish I had known it was you ....good job man
bug there was a few steelies caught today
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omg ravo you walked right by ne today when you walked across the power house and said that! your first ny brown and I asked you if you had a brown permit ....lol wish I had known it was you ....good job man
bug there was a few steelies caught today
That's funny right there. It was nice to unofficially meet you! We watched a few people catch some 10lb plus browns, fishing off the walkway right above the shoe. Don't know why they didn't just just walk in the river but apparently it worked for them
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Pretty brown Ravo , congrats , doesn't have to be big to be nice
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Nice fish Ryan good work.
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Trap Pautzke stuff is pretty good. I like to mix their products together a little bit to get the best results. I honestly don't think it's much better than plain old borax for skein. Btw, jello packets work great for coloring eggs when curing, just mix it up with the borax before you put it on the eggs. For loose eggs though I really do love the Pautzke liquid brine. I just follow the directions on the bottle and the eggs come out perfect for spawn sacs every time. A little trick, I add a 1/2-1 cup of brown sugar in with the brine (might need tp heat it to get it all to dissolve, then let cool to room temperature before putting the eggs in). We did awesome last year on steelhead with brown trout and coho eggs I did with that recipe. As long as you dry them out a bit beforehand you can freeze them and use them as far out as 3 years later I've seen
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hey thanks jeff I have used the borax jello mix for years myself but I'm getting lazy as I get older ,I think I will get a bottle of the liquid brine ,I don't use eggs often but I like having a good supply when I do ....
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fished Oswego again this morning and ran into ole Harold ,was good to see ya buddy! the fishoswegoriver men had a tourney and were having fun ,was interesting to watch ....seen a lot of fish caught my only issue was , why doesn't the city have the fish cleaning station opened on a week end???? the bathrooms were closed too but blue bowls are at the post office parking lot
the water was a little better today and made for a good bobber drift
water was at 1300 cfs and temp was 65 degrees
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TRAPPER, they are on the way
hope you like them
;D ;D ;D
RAT
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ty sir I will be copying them :)
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ty sir I will be copying them :)
hope you can get the fish with them
;D ;D ;D
RAT
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Trapp aren't you the one who said kings don't bite ?or do you think it only happens in oswego?
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Trapp aren't you the one who said kings don't bite ?or do you think it only happens in oswego?
when did I ever say kings "bite" once they enter to spawn????
i totally admit I'm flossing these fish with a float ....
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Lol ok bud...good times on the wall for shore
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Did a lot of driving around today. Checked south sandy, no water no fish. Checked black hole. Some people had fish but it was slow. Altmar was dead. Stopped for lunch and then made the drive to Oswego again. Got there at 5. Caught another pretty brown just a little bigger than yesterday. But he had a real nice kype on him at 6.5 lbs 23".
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nice brown ravo :thumbup_smilie:
monic20 I assure you I'm flossing ever fish I hook up .....reason I'm interested in eggs is steelie and browns
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great brown and nice photo thanks for sharing
;D ;D ;D
RAT
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Nice :o
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seen more browns and steelies taken up by the dam today
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at pulaski its on---big time---a huge push of fish is in---get your salmon right now---the next 5 days will be super prime time
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at pulaski its on---big time---a huge push of fish is in---get your salmon right now---the next 5 days will be super prime time
d**n. Just missed em I guess. It was a ghost town everywhere except douglaston or below. Have fun guys. Don't forget, 10 out of 10 dentists recommend flossing
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d**n. Just missed em I guess. It was a ghost town everywhere except douglaston or below. Have fun guys. Don't forget, 10 out of 10 dentists recommend flossing
ravo exactly what I been saying for years ......you did miss it Oswego really gave up some browns and a lot of steelies too!
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Trapper u must a snuck past me Saturday I was up there drifting skien I'll be going up again this Friday...
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Trapper u must a snuck past me Saturday I was up there drifting skien I'll be going up again this Friday...
I was on the wall for awhile in the am I landed 2 ..... had my famous green Hodgeman on
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spent saturday in the Lund at oz, no salmon or trout, just a few perch and bass. Was tough watching everyone else hook up trolling and casting.
Over to Altmar Outfitters for some sleep saturday night, got the down low from Snagger and his buddy Jimmy, Snag hooked me up with fresh bait, helped me prep it right there in his kitchen, and sunday the results were a tad different.
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nice fish bigred! glad you hooked up
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Nice job Lance, good to see you holding he fish this time, probably a good thing I didn't go! ;D
Not surprised to hear Shane hooked it up!
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Nice job Lance, good to see you holding he fish this time, probably a good thing I didn't go! ;D
yeah, well i was in my element: moving water 8) :D
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Nice Lance.
Hate the smell of those old black kings.
So much, I won't fish for them anymore.
My son Jeff does though.
Again, good job.
Mac
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yeah, well i was in my element: moving water 8) :D
I see that! I didn't see that first fish when I first loaded the page...two corkers and you didn't have to use the TSR!
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Good job red , I'm surprised that my bud snag didn't try and weedle some icing lakers info out of ya 😉
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nice job red hope to see you on the ice
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oh he scores another whooper!!!! nice fish man
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spent saturday in the Lund at oz, no salmon or trout, just a few perch and bass. Was tough watching everyone else hook up trolling and casting.
Over to Altmar Outfitters for some sleep saturday night, got the down low from Snagger and his buddy Jimmy, Snag hooked me up with fresh bait, helped me prep it right there in his kitchen, and sunday the results were a tad different.
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some great fish and nice photos thanks for sharing
RAT
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is it true the river is going even lower----i heard 100 cfs
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i didnt know they could even go that low
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Nice ones Red. Looks like you got some fresh eggs out of that one on the bottom.
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Oswego river was running at 2500 cfs at 6 am
salmon river is 185 at the d**n ,250 at Pineville
theres fish to be had
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Bigred, glad to see you got into them :clapping:
BTW, if it isn't a top secret, do you guys float the skein or bottom bounce with it?
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Oswego river was running at 2500 cfs at 6 am
salmon river is 185 at the d**n ,250 at Pineville
theres fish to be had
If you spell it as dam, it will post Trap.
Still, I like your version better.
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Nice ones Red. Looks like you got some fresh eggs out of that one on the bottom.
she was quite the egg barge ;)
Bigred, glad to see you got into them :clapping:
BTW, if it isn't a top secret, do you guys float the skein or bottom bounce with it?
under a float
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just I little safety tip be down wind or use a mask when you sprinkle that fire cure ....you don't want to breath that in ,especially if you have asthma .....I personally wouldn't be using it inside my home either ......
works good
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Nice fish Lance. Way to get it done
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she was quite the egg barge ;)
under a float
I told Erica about our plans to go again...said I felt bad, she said "go just don't steal Lance's salmon this time....doh!
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well get here and rip a few of your own ;D
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I told Erica about our plans to go again...said I felt bad, she said "go just don't steal Lance's salmon this time....doh!
LOL :D 8)
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Red I was up to the snags today , him and little Dave were knee deep in dead mud sharks :o
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so I'm setting here bored as heck with pulled stomach muscles and can't fish or climb a tree stand , so I got talking to a fellow old fart about sticking and rippin fish ........... a 5 foot pier rod a level wind reel and Dacron 50 lb test line man those kings hit those weighted hooks especially after dark huh Freddie :thumbup_smilie:
and neither of us understands the difference between a moochin rod and a center pin other then the price :rotflol:
were just scoundrels
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Saw some really crazy stuff back in the day , some of the stuff I seen used was insane
Trapp remember the tru temper rods with 3200 Olympic spark reels with mister 50 with a weighted 6/0 treble , I must have sold a 1,000 of those rigs when I was helping out at the shop
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28 pounder from this morning that didn't hit my rapala so hard I thought it dislocated my shoulder.
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Just playing, but it was a fun morning. 4/5. 3 trolling, 2 casting.
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Nice fish chowdaire
Tell me you didn't catch that fish on a walleye crank
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Nice fish chowdaire
Tell me you didn't catch that fish on a walleye crank
I did!
The funny thing is I started off pulling a plug, a modified king crankbait and that walleye crank. Right away the king crank starts bouncing but not pulling drag,....WALLEYE!
5 minutes later the "walleye crank" goes, king. Ended up getting all 5 kings on that walleye crank and my only walleye on a crank made for kings.
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I rather see the walleye :thumbup_smilie:.........................just busting on ya ,glad you had some fun ...nice fish
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So now you have a cross over crank From eyes to kings lol
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put bigger hooks on it for kings
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Headed back this weekend! Cant wait!!
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walked sandy creek(hilton ny) with my young boy sunday......not much water and even less fish....until you get to the lake...seems like some fish moving in but not too far up the system......we need water!
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Nice King chow. That had to be a blast!!!
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:thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
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Wiredstone have you seen leigh high valley? Thinking of coming up. Let me know if your going to be around. :afro: :afro: :afro:
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Jay and I fished Mid river yesterday with HT and Frank. We all had many hookups.Went to shanes for some clean ups. Went to the Elis area in the afternoon. Many more fish and hook ups.
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Well done guys
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we got water now
I checked real quick and ....
salmon river is flowing over 850 cfs at Pineville
Oswego river is flowing at over 10,600 cfs and rising ...be very careful here remember with multi power stations all up the river the water can rise very fast and for no seen reason! if your in the water wear a vest ,and make sure you know where the safety stations are.
south sandy is flowing at over 950 cfs and rising
with the heavy rains that we needed the water will be rising please use your head be safe and have fun
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we got water now
I checked real quick and ....
salmon river is flowing over 850 cfs at Pineville
Oswego river is flowing at over 10,600 cfs and rising ...be very careful here remember with multi power stations all up the river the water can rise very fast and for no seen reason! if your in the water wear a vest ,and make sure you know where the safety stations are.
south sandy is flowing at over 950 cfs and rising
with the heavy rains that we needed the water will be rising please use your head be safe and have fun
Good news! Thanks for the update! I can't wait to get up there in a few weeks.
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I had friends who tried to fish the sandys. ..complete blowout from all the rain. Wasn't worth the trip they said.
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Oswego river is at about 13,500 cfs water is brown
salmon river is around 2,600 cfs
south sandy is over 1,750 cfs
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I think I'll finish getting decoys ready! 8)
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good idea KP ..... in fulton the power houses are on full and the water is almost to the bulk heads ...it went higher at 16,7000 cfs still raining
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We ended up not going Trap. Thanks for the call!
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Well....we certainly got enough rain for the ducks! maybe tomorrow they will play! 😈
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How'd the duck hunting go? Went bowhunting this afternoon but no luck. Only 3rd time I haven't seen deer on watch this year
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You'll get one I'm sure bob
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I'm with ya Fred. Been seeing quite a few just nothing but fawns in range
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A pic coming your way bob
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The ducks were safe...I went in the woods. No deer to be seen.
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Thread has been pretty quiet lately. Is the bite that hot or is there not much to talk about?
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Thread has been pretty quiet lately. Is the bite that hot or is there not much to talk about?
I'm heading up early Wednesday morning through Sunday. I've been reading mixed reports. Some saying steelhead #'s are way down and they are tough to find and others saying the fishing is easy. Who knows? I've never gone up there and not caught fish.
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very slow day today
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very slow day today
here or the water?
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on the water
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We hit fly zone Sunday. Managed a few steels but not what we are used to this time of year. >:( I know a guy who hit South Sandy on Sunday and he said it was on fire. ::) ::)
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From Syracuse.com:
http://www.syracuse.com/outdoors/index.ssf/2016/11/national_grid_giving_2800_acres_of_land_to_ny_state_along_salmon_river.html (http://www.syracuse.com/outdoors/index.ssf/2016/11/national_grid_giving_2800_acres_of_land_to_ny_state_along_salmon_river.html)
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Has Shane been on here at all recently? Or does anybody possibly know of a way I can contact him besides Facebook as im not into that garbage at all lol. Even if someone could pm me his contact info I just had a few questions for him about days he might have available and a few other things. Thanks guys, tight lines
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,you won't see him on here much if at all
Pm sent
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,you won't see him on here much if at all
Pm sent
I'll let Jeff know you sent him a PM.
He don't come on here much either.
lol
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Thanks ,
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??? ??? hey, what the heck happened to the old gang???????
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??? ??? hey, what the heck happened to the old gang???????
Moved to other formats. Myself I miss the daily photos and real time fish reports. I don't do FB. Change is the only constant. I'm shifting to ice shanty soon. They probably won't be there either.
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I'm no fan of FB either
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EF fb,
bring back snagger and the perches,
( Fin-der ?? )
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yeah, I guess it's like everything else, all good things must come to an end :-\ :sleep1:
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Wanted to wish everyone a great Thanksgiving!!! :clapping: :clapping: :thumbup_smilie: :flag: :flag:
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You too Rick!!!! Hope you had a great day! Were you up at all??
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got some at oz last week
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Nice fish Lance - great colors.
(Lampreys suck)
:whistling:
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Nice fish and great colors 👍
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Sick fish lance!
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Beautiful fish! ;D
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nice looking fish red
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Hammered them with Snagger and the gang at the end of last week.
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Sweet Lance.
Jeff is headed up next week with his buddy.
He is staying with Shayne at his place.
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Snag told me the guys had a good bite 👍Nice fish red and company
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This is a pic of my first steelie for this year.
I used imgur to post the pic. It is large thumbnail size. The original size was huge.
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Great looking fish and photo KC.
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Jeff just got back home last night.
He stayed with Shane.
He showed me a few pictures but I was kinda tied up.
I need to look at them a bit more closely.
Maybe he will post a report.
Or..................maybe not.
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Way to go KC.
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Nice fish KC!!😎
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It was a banner day on the river today. I fished with Chris. We were 9 for 17. I will post some pics later
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It was a banner day on the river today. I fished with Chris. We were 9 for 17. I will post some pics later
Wow that is a good day!! I might be thinking that game if the ice takes a hit this week. I week of warm temps might make that bite even better!!
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Here some pics from last Sunday's trip tp the river:
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Wow! Nice!
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Great pictures KC. Congratulations.
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Beauties!
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nice fish
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kc, nice steelies! (https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi42.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe322%2Fswampstalker%2FSMILEYS%2Fhappy0144.gif&hash=c1c612f2869fcc11c3cefad0fdbb8a21)
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Glad too see you getting into them :thumbup_smilie:
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was a beautiful day on the river. went 3 for 5 today with one brown in the mix
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KC....you're a steelie- eyed fisher.
Well done.
Rg
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Hey KC What is your presentation of choice for this time of year?
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purple and black marabou
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My first fish after a long awaited water drop. Should be good fishing through the end of April atleast.
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Good job kc!! Again thanks for the AK info!!
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kc, nice steelie!
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We are headed to chase the steelies with flys this coming Thursday through Sunday. It's only our second time for steelhead. Any reports and or tips are greatly appreciated!
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We are headed to chase the steelies with flys this coming Thursday through Sunday. It's only our second time for steelhead. Any reports and or tips are greatly appreciated!
. I was up with a friend for half the day on Thurs. water was high and fishing was slow. It beat being at work though
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We are headed to chase the steelies with flys this coming Thursday through Sunday. It's only our second time for steelhead. Any reports and or tips are greatly appreciated!
Two of my buddies went up Sunday. Hit the lower fly zone. Water was at 500 and the bite was on. They did very well. :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
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Two of my buddies went up Sunday. Hit the lower fly zone. Water was at 500 and the bite was on. They did very well. :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
water dropped Friday it's running at about 800 but I'd check before I went it's spring we have run off and rain ,I think it was dropped for the week end ,heres the link you can check for yourselves
https://waterdata.usgs.gov/usa/nwis/uv?04250200 (https://waterdata.usgs.gov/usa/nwis/uv?04250200)
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Anybody know if the hatchery has released their fish yet?
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I read on another site that they just started collecting eggs
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The hatchery released their fish last week. The bad news was there were only half as many fish as usual. The good news was that they were gorgeous, not a white mark on them. It reinforces what I have always said, they should close the opening when they have enough fish and let them spawn in the brook or river. When they are not crowded they don't damage themselves. They can stagger the opening to get fish that spawn at different times. Not sure what that means about how long they will stay, especially in the high water, but they were healthy fish.
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caught 2 of those healthy fish today
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I heard tell a few fish were played with in the river ,figured it was about time
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all the rain we got should get few early ones up the river
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pssst I think a few might be there ....just saying
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Some cool nights coming too so that should help.
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Jeff is headed up to the dacks this weekend for some camping and light duty stream fishing for trout.
I mentioned this to him.
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East winds coming Sunday - Tuesday next week. Get ready.......
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i cant wait!!!
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can't wait for steelhead not salmon in the river
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My buddies went Sunday and hooked a few salmon and landed some small steelhead. :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
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guess a lot of folks are keeping it under wraps for some reason but been some fish up in the river for awhile
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Trap, the black sponge bloom start up yet??🤔
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KP it's rumored it is but I canned up some from last year if you need some stop over
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Thanks Freddie!!!😎
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KP it's rumored it is but I canned up some from last year if you need some stop over
You guys are just lookin for the biters :whistling: :w00t:
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Cruised by/over the river, on I-81, this AM. Saw a few folks out there with their gear.
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You guys are just lookin for the biters :whistling: :w00t:
Well....yea!!!!😜
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I been using something new ! it's called a kayuk fly ... simple fly tied in many sizes with bright glow bug yarn fished with a dead drift style simply toss the fly well ahead of a salmon watch the fly just pass his head set the hook straight up and KAAAA YUKKKKK fish on !!!!!
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Sounds like you got the system down pretty good Trap!! How 'bout sharing some of those kayuk flies with your buds?? 😁 I'll bring the coffee!!🎣
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yea trap show us a pic. I tried to google it but don't show any such thing ??? ??? ???
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It's a custom fly of his own design
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secret weapon huh? ;D ;D
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secret weapon huh? ;D ;D
You know how he's always thinking outside the box 📦
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DSR is already hyping up a good run this weekend.... ::)
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i told you guys how to tie it and how to fish it .....
take a hook size 2 or 4 ....... but a small amount of glow yarn on it ...I prefer bright orange personally for better visability ....place a split shot or 2 4 foot up the leader .... be legal now guys !!!!! now using good polaroid glasses spot a fish cast directly in front of the fish and let the line dead drift try to get the split shot to drift very close to his face on your side ...when you see your line is just beyond his head .... THE FISH HAS TAKEN YOUR FLY !!!!! lift directly upward hard your rod will make a kaaaayuk sound and fish on!!!!! those darn old kings sure do hit out od aggression don't they ...I think the state may need to make a law agaist small children wadeing in the river!!!!
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yea trap show us a pic. I tried to google it but don't show any such thing ??? ??? ???
....al you are a putz arent ya....take a piece a glow yarn or any yarn take a hook tie the the yarn in a granny not fish away....good grief mr technical salmon fly tier :D
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Al i forgot heres the site grannyknot.com
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Al i forgot heres the site grannyknot.com
:thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
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they raised the water sat and sun to about 900 I guess then droped it last night I know the lower end had a lot of fish at least in the morning ...i'd say get fishing ...... with no one reporting on this thread you out of towners can always call all seasons for current reports. https://waterdata.usgs.gov/ny/nwis/uv?cb_00060=on&cb_00065=on&format=gif_default&site_no=04250200&period=&begin_date=2017-08-28&end_date=2017-09-04 (https://waterdata.usgs.gov/ny/nwis/uv?cb_00060=on&cb_00065=on&format=gif_default&site_no=04250200&period=&begin_date=2017-08-28&end_date=2017-09-04) you can google salmon river water flow new York for water conditions and even check the DSR report .... I don't have face book so I don't know how to help you their..... i'm not going to report how many fish I caught hooked up or any of that last year I did and it caused WW3 I will say I had fun and i'm sure you would too it will only improve .....
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Ok trapp we know how you can be 😜
I got a report from a bud said that a run came through pulaski yesterday
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they were low in the river fri and sat got good ....... I just have had people calling and asking so figured i'd tell them how to find out info on their own , I don't see many of the salmon river crew posting ....and don't forget larrys salmon shop in Oswego for info down there
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Here are a couple numbers to call
Salmon river sport shop 315-298-4343
All season sports 315-298-6433
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I know the lower part of the river and the DSR was on fire yesterday lots of cohos
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its 2017 not 2016 guys. what happened to the 2017 thread?
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;)
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its 2017 not 2016 guys. what happened to the 2017 thread?
Just be glad they're talking, period. ;)
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I'm not into time man.
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Lower is on fire again today
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its 2017 not 2016 guys. what happened to the 2017 thread?
look were just posting to help out people that don't live here I don't think anyone cares if it says 16 or 17..........if you want make a 2017 thread
I knew theres some fish in Oswego too my suggestion is to call larry's salmon shop for up to date reports.....he has some great skein floats and beads
thanks for the report raker
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I'm not into time man.
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Its fictional anways!
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Its fictional anways!
Also relevant
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I'm pretty sure people can comprehend well enough to figure out date and time replies are posted , pretty simple fish are running 😲
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I'm pretty sure people can comprehend well enough to figure out date and time replies are posted , pretty simple fish are running 😲
I don't know about that. Comprehend thing, that is. 8)
Can someone show or teach me what "flossing" is? I overheard a conversation today and couldn't figure out what/why a group of guys were discussing their teeth for! Then I figured out they were talking salmon. ???
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There are lots of phrases and words that discribe flossing , 😲
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just like human's flossing.
dragging your line thru the open month of a salmon is flossing. ;D
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Glorified snagging....flossing! 😁🎣
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I heard there was a lot of that going on above the ball fields this weekend. :nono: :nono: :nono:
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Just rumors ,
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Just rumors ,
wish it was
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Trapp knows when they are on the feed 😏
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I know nothing ......nothingggggggggggggg ;D
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I know nothing ......nothingggggggggggggg ;D
Shultzy!!
:D
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Yea trap theres a quite a few fish in oswego river skien bite is a little slow but the fly and beads up at the dam are workung well guys were drifting beads under a bobber and hooking up on the wall..i drifted a mop fly under a float and did pretty good..not on fire up there but fish are there..alot of kings at the dam
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Fished salmon river also kindda quiet sunday except for the flossers
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hit Oswego today ,if the water went threw the power house instead of the d**n it would be better for everyone .....one small steelie,pretty slow
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hit Oswego today ,if the water went threw the power house instead of the d**n it would be better for everyone .....one small steelie,pretty slow
Hey Trapper. You better see what big guy's secret is. He says he got into them good there. Of course it's probably one of his fishy stories. :rotflol: :rotflol:
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Yea trap theres a quite a few fish in oswego river skien bite is a little slow but the fly and beads up at the dam are workung well guys were drifting beads under a bobber and hooking up on the wall..i drifted a mop fly under a float and did pretty good..not on fire up there but fish are there..alot of kings at the dam
hooking salmon in the mouth under a float with beads and flies? Just at the wall or up at the spillway too?
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Ok so it makes a difference what you drift as long as you don't keep fouled fish ? 🤔
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i only seen one legal fish and that was a maybe ...... seen a lot snagged with fast tracs and 2 chromers ............not sure about the spillway nor the dam ,was water coming over the dam ...going back down later ....
Freddie i heard that they hit those fast tracs so hard they often fly outta their mouths and get stuck in their sides!!!! ....
most kings are still caught with a 1/0 hook and a fast upward motion of the rod ..... :rotflol:
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Trapp sometimes they are so aggressive on a strike they miss a plug and get stuck else where 🎣Just like a smallie
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Just on the wall drifting bobbers.high wall ..on the wall its called the skien train...but yes guys do use floats up around the dam and do very well
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Sooo....is it safe to say that salmon will hit a bare hook???😁 C'mon Trap... fill us in!!!😁
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...with their back or tail they will hit it.....h2l
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oh hunts I'm a old salmon river rat from way back ...I assure you ,I can get those ole salmon to hit that bare hook and have everyone right in the kisser :rotflol: I thinl it's the shine on the hook they think it's a baitfish or something :rotflol:
Freddie what do you think ????
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Trapp I have no doubt in your ability in getting those things to hit a shiny object
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Trap loves shiny objects.
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I know where the fish are!!!
hey few things to remember get caught wading in Oswego without a approved pfd your getting a ticket and yes they have a guy watching I think the firedept still has loaners..... new this year it cost you a buck a fish to use the fish cleaning station.... no access (legal) to the east side unless you walk across the river
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I know where the fish are!!!
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Hey trap what is an approved pfd and how do you get one and where do you get it approved at...is that a new lure pfd.... ???
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told ya you can get a loaner at the fire dept,
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told ya you can get a loaner at the fire dept,
....ohhh i can get a loan at the fire department... ;D
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Ohhh i read wrong i can get one at loaner fire department...where is that i googled it and i cant find it..
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Im not positive but look up east 35 Cayuga st
315-343-2161
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Im not positive but look up east 35 Cayuga st
315-343-2161
...how do i find the town loaner though..loaner fire department must be in the town of loaner ;D
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...how do i find the town loaner though..loaner fire department must be in the town of loaner ;D
:wacko: :wacko: :wacko:
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Trapp gave the advise
I just supplied the number , 😜
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Sorry to butt in, if you are serious it is a "U.S. Coast Guard-approved Type III life jacket". Should be marked on the jacket.
Info can be found here http://visitoswegocounty.com/city-of-oswego-and-brookfield-implement-new-personal-flotation-device-zones-at-varick-hydropower-dam-on-oswego-river/ (http://visitoswegocounty.com/city-of-oswego-and-brookfield-implement-new-personal-flotation-device-zones-at-varick-hydropower-dam-on-oswego-river/)
Good luck! And somebody post some pics of these monsters for us!
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The last time i wore one of those was god cant remeber..they dont have my size...now what do i do...
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Strap 4 throw cushions on or duct tape your choice , lmao
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Strap 4 throw cushions on or duct tape your choice , lmao
....i got it thanks fillet im gonna go get one of those small blow up kiddie pools..cut the bottom out take a tag off of a pfd and tape it on...i can be out in the water wearing a pool toto... ;D
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Perfect 😜
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we are the elite fisherman of our area and all we got to talk about are dieing salmon up the river that don't hit and home made life jackets .........we need a life gentleman :rotflol:
three serious notes ...DON'T BE SENDING YOUR 12 YEAR OLDS ALONE TO FISH THE DAM AREA!!!!! ARE YOU STUPID???? THATS DANGEROUS WATER!
SECOND you can't keep rainbows or steelies under 21 inches you guys sticking them in your pack packs been reported
the nut that dumped the fish carcuses in the kiddie poll that's called illegal dumping of solid waste and is a 1800 dollar fine .....is it really worth it????
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Trapp it's broke and will never be fixed
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Huh 12 yr old at dam...wasnt me ;D.i was up there todsy with my toto on ...home made life jacket..worked good when i stepped into a hole up there and floated around for a minute the salmon i was fighting pulled me out...i would like to know where the fish went..it was slow up there..1 hook up and i got him but thats it...trap as far as the fish carcas it wasnt fish..someone had the the poops ;D
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heard the salmon river had a billion people but a lot of fish ... slow skein bite at Oswego ,the ropers at the dam are having a field day .....
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It's busy trapp ,
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A few of my friends went to salmon river sais it was slow ...the night wall at oswego has been pretty good..and with the temps being in the 80s all week with no rain im thinking thing are gonna come to screaming hault for a while...the females i hooked over the weekend are super tight skiens yet.
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them guys down at that night wall in oz are pretty ornery, uh?
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yesterday on the salmon it depended where you were ,my buds had a nice time , and they are into them again today , just got back from town it's pretty busy with traffic
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I've done well ,only problem in Oswego is no water threw the generators so the highwall is slow up by the dam is going well
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Bigred you must a ran into mikie and them..usually there good but they drank alot a beer on the high wall if your talking about saterday night...lol
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what I'm going to say is purely opinion which means 20 self proclaimed experts that watch tv fishing and listen to elitist will say I'm crazy, I have said for many many years water temp has nothing to do with a salmon run ,it's water flow and amount of day light hours .... right now iswego and salmon river prove this salmon river is 64 degrees and Oswego at67 degrees and yet they are having a good run
with no water going threw the generators few fish are on the high wall yet up on the east side of the dam (heavest flow) you can hook as many fish as you want ...... if water temps where as important as important as we been told we would have no fish and the ones in the river would all be dead .....their not in fact every fish I have hooked is very healthy and silver ..... I like wading in cut offs and a tee short ;D
ps the white perch bite is rockin :rotflol:
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I don't think the temps have quite as much to do with the salmon run, if there is water for them to go up, and its their time they are going to make to move into creeks and rivers. This in turn draws in the browns looking for a quick meal. I do however think water temps have a lot more impact of steelhead. On warm years like this I haven't seen as many early steelhead come into the creeks (besides just inside the mouths chasing bait fish). Just my 2 cents
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I don't know seen more rainbows caught this week then browns by far
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Always exceptions to the norm ;)
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Yesterday according to my buds another group of fish moved in yesterday so there was fish up high and around the town area ,
Without rain to bring up the tribs the action will continue to be in Oswego and the salmon
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your 100% right Freddie the tribs need water but we usually are in the small creeks in oct ..... I did catch a salmon that had a eel still on it ....ugly creature for sure .....
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Well that must have been a nice surprise :w00t:
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yeah it seems oz is loaded with domestics right now
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pretty fish ....
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That Washington strain are great looking fish for sure
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That Washington strain are great looking fish for sure
There were a ton of them in the lake this summer too.
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There were a ton of them in the lake this summer too.
Well that's good news ,
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well don't worry the dam dwellers are doing their part to lower the population including filling knap sacks and walking out ..... or the new trick is the Asians get a limit call the parking lot and have their wives drag the fish out while they start the next limit they even have a spotter in the tree!!!! you can't make this up .... not one DEC officer this week at OZ but I think they will be around from now on ;D.................the rope em and smoke em low water circle the dam death match ....yeah I don't care if ya rope a king but when your filling knap sacks with browns and bows ya deserve to be making wedding vows with someone named bubba in prison
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Well give a call to mr Dorrett, or mr Hager , that should do it 💪🏼
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oh I called
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How are the browns at Oswego this year trap? Last year when I made it out there was a ton being caught. I got 2 pretty 7lbers myself
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ravo I seen some browns caught I wouldn't say in great numbers but a lot of beautiful domestics ....even a few walleyes still getting caught
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water temp hot 72 in Oswego river yesterday >:( at that temp I'm not going to target any rainbows , I'm sure if you strain them they will die for sure in that warm water
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Walleyes are comfy with 70*😀 Those lake run rainbows don't care much for it , I think your right trapp they would stress out
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Walleyes are comfy with 70*😀
why yes they are ;D
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Freddie you mentioned walleyes last night kid drifting gets a 23 inch walleye asked me if he could keep it ....the white perch bite continues to be strong lol
water temp is still 72
1450 cfs all water coming from dam no water released threw power house
I did see a kayaker fishing at the power house and he hooked up and landed the fish!
3 fish on total but I met some nice people
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Well I'm sure you said yes keep the eye and put the whites in your cooler lmao
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the warm weather and low water has taken it's toll theres not even many fish near the dam
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Couple more days and it will cool down ,
Had to run some errands in town , lots of guys wearing neoprenes ,bet they were cooked 😜🍳
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I been wearing pro cut offs old sneaks and corkers lol
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heading to oswegoin a little while slow start this am think i'll go and throw plugs or I might actually drift worms for walleyes
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Good luck trapp 🎣
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Just wanted to post a pic of a nice fresh salmon I caught a couple of weeks ago. Will be going back up in the am.
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Nice fish KC 🎣
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Just wanted to post a pic of a nice fresh salmon I caught a couple of weeks ago. Will be going back up in the am.
kc it was great a few weeks ago Oswego has slowed down a lot I hear salmon river still has a lot of fish
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will be there in the morning with Stormy and Kowboy
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you going up to the dam or fishing the high wall?
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if you are going to wade fish Oswego I would cross above the power house (first stairs down ) wade toward east side and fish that run above the dug out it had a lot of fish in it yesterday
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Does the Oswego Salmon Shop sell night crawlers?
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kc it was great a few weeks ago Oswego has slowed down a lot I hear salmon river still has a lot of fish
I was up there over the weekend. There were a ton of salmon in the river. I fished mainly up near the lower fly zone but they are spread out through out most of the river. I hooked into a few but didn't land anything. It seemed like they could use some rain up there. The flows were pretty low and the fish were stacked up in deeper spots and didn't move much from like 10:30-4.
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Does the Oswego Salmon Shop sell night crawlers?
yes he does rember the salmon shop will be shuting down oct 26
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yes he does rember the salmon shop will be shuting down oct 26
Thanks Trap!
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if the shop isclosed wal mart is north on 104 a few miles
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Here is a pic of a bunch of good freinds at Shane's after a great day of fishing on the 28th. Many limits were caught, but only these few got to ride in the truck
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Is that the infamous kowboy???
Good work on the sharks!!
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finally got to fish with big guy and his son!!!! had a great time even if the fish weren't as active as we wished the excitement was seeing little guy hook up and some moron that thought my net was community property ...... other then that was a good morning and big al you been replaced by the chocolate lady not only does she have better snacks she smells better and is a lot more pretty !!!!
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Glad you guys had fun , it's always great to see the young ones with fish on
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Hey Trapper that's great. Now I get all my snacks to myself. ;D ;D
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al what happened up on salmon river?????
yesterday more fish caught on the high wall still slow water temp had droped from 73 degrees to 67 I'm sure lower this morning , seen a law enforcement presence and I'm happy about that ....everyone complains about the to many officers then when theres none some morons start using treble hooks at the power house and think the limit is how many trips you can drag fish to the buffet down the road ....now just to clearify what I'm saying and it will ruffle feathers ...if you rip a fish next to me and take it home ,I don't care ...it you rip 300 in a week and have your wives drag them out and salmon appears on the 6.95 buffet well...........I'm calling ....... if you get in the corner of the power house put on a treble hook then walk that fish down the wall net it and openly sell it .....not only are you a poacher ,your really stupid ....now this is a very very small percentage of the fishernman in Oswego ,most have been great guys ......
back to the report I seen a lot of chrome up above and know lots were taken by pinners running beads and skein seen another alantic ....and seen some guys enjoying themselves catching sheep head ...that's right a couple guys were honestly fishing for sheephead ...they say they taste better then salmon and I believe them!!!
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Trapper. I fished Salmon river both Saturday and Sunday. Saturday at ball field area. Had several hookups early then it slowed to a crawl later on. Sunday fished lower in river and was pretty much non stop action for entire day. Sunday was good day for fishermen and bad day for fish. Saw some nice chrome and coho taken. Also got to meet the town deer that they have name Bella. Pretty cool to have a deer let you come up and pet it. :D :D
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Your right trapper the chocolate lady is much better looking than bigal..man she a bag full too..lol still slow up there water is even lower now...but that wont matter soon they have to spawn...yea ya gotta love those guys with a treble hook and split shot..tail shot everytime they came down the wall..community net thats a good one lol they have nerve dont ya know they have to land those tail hooked fish.they got real bad after u left
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Hey trap i forgot thanks for getting little guy cranked up on bluegills lol he goes hey dad we gotta go get bluegills trapper said he knows a good spot and no one wants to go....he does hahaha..thanks buddy..
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Your right trapper the chocolate lady is much better looking than bigal..man she a bag full too..lol still slow up there water is even lower now...but that wont matter soon they have to spawn...yea ya gotta love those guys with a treble hook and split shot..tail shot everytime they came down the wall..community net thats a good one lol they have nerve dont ya know they have to land those tail hooked fish.they got real bad after u left
no more Butterfingers for you from me any more. You can get them from the chocolate lady. ;D ;D
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I'll be making my way out Thursday morning. I'm hoping these cooler temps and coming rain showers help push em in. Either way always a great trip. See you guys in a few days
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Ravo I think you should do just fine , still lots of fish around ,
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ravo salmon river is on fire
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ravo salmon river is on fire
shhh Trapper. It's a secret. ::) ::) I'm going up for 4 days this weekend. My buddy went yesterday and had one of the best days ever in 30 years.
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oswego has started to find some life , I also noticed a lot of really fresh silver jacks .... the drift boats crushed them ....it is good to see the DEC on the river thank you gentlemen , water is still now the power stations are still off but the water was down to 66 yesterday morning ,now i'll be hunting the next week so you guys set there butts on fire :thumbup_smilie:
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I was in town yesterday (Pulaski) , by the looks of the parking lots it's no secret 😜Busiest I've seen it in years , great run after the last couple years , much needed for fishermen and businesses
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I ran down to Oswego one last time before hunting camp ,I got soaked during the brief shower and got no fish :rotflol:
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I ran down to Oswego one last time before hunting camp ,I got soaked during the brief shower and got no fish :rotflol:
I was going to try Oswego one day over the weekend on my 4 day trip but think I'll stay in Pulaski. :thumbup_smilie:
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al Oswego isn't producing well your better of on salmon river
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Fly boxes are filled. I'm sticking with Salmon River. :o :o
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Rained pretty good last night good luck big
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rope em and smoke em AL.... :thumbup_smilie:
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Got 2 at Black hole last night when we got here. Pretty productive. This morning the hole was pretty dead. Stopping for lunch. Hopefully we find some this afternoon
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head upstream you'll find fish
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head upstream you'll find fish
X2
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Didn't this year start out with you (trap) saying find your own fish? Now it seems you've got your white gloves on directing people to the fish :police: :police:
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Didn't this year start out with you (trap) saying find your own fish? Now it seems you've got your white gloves on directing people to the fish :police: :police:
This is the new trap.
A more refined trap.
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wro0ng matty I said I wasn't going to say what I caught and I haven't, the reason for that is last year I went to the stair case caught fish posted in here and the other guy about called me a liar , even though he never got there to the afternoon ..... I have always not only posted where but how flies I used and how to tie the fly ...... I started posting on this thread to keep it alive and I though I was doing a half decent job but I can quit if you have a issue ....people I fish with are only a phone call away .... I was only trying to help people that drive a long distance so they know theres fish in the water ....
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Well said trapp , and just keep doing what your doing , approval ratings are over rated , PS call coming
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what do we know Freddie we only been fishing salmon river about 60 years and hell we were ten before they even stocked salmon :rotflol:
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Boy wish I was sitting in the boat at the willow hole all day today...... :( :( :(
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Boy wish I was sitting in the boat at the willow hole all day today...... :( :( :(
Don't look like I will make a tip this year....
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go upstream my friend .... go upstream
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I was only joking, sheesh :o Your helping a lot of people, that's awesome
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matty it's ok I apologize i'm a little on the edge after a few disturbing e mails I had gotten , I shouldn't have taken it out on you i'm sorry you always been a good guy ..... extends hand in friendship :D
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Haha No sweat! I really like this thread because I've always (well since the beginning of my young fly angling career a few years ago) wanted to go up there. Maybe this winter :laugh:
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let us know when we'll bring ya a coffee :)
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Ended up in Altman at the lower fly zone. Definitely fish to be caught. Drove over the 3 bridge in the back and didn't see one fish jumping. Thinking of hitting oz tomorrow
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been quiet on the high wall dam area has some fish but most are toward the east side where the water is really flowing some browns and chrome to boot depending on the day good luck ravo
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That's part of the reason I want to head there. I'd love to get some big browns.
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Hit the river yesterday with my son it was loaded with fish he landed his first salmon ever and now the fish isn't the only one that's hooked
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awesome I love when kids catch fish that are almost as big as them :flex:
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That’s awesome! He looks pumped
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with this rain i'd say start watching the tribs once that water level goes up I think we will have fish everywhere
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Back to the real world. Landed a couple fish. Oswego was definitely slow. Not used to seeing it like that. There was a good amount of fish up in Altmar. I wish It had rained like this the week before. I love fishing the smaller streams. Oh well. Fun trip as always. See you guess next year
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rope em and smoke em AL.... :thumbup_smilie:
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Hey Trapper. I found a few that liked my flies. Had a good time. Started out weekend low in river and finished up weekend in lower fly zone. ;D ;D
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Took a ride up to the hatchery this morning. They're in full swing with egg collection. Never seen salmon egg collection before, worth checking out.
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That's always worth a trip wally......
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Yes Raquette it is. Been to see the walleye stripped many times, never made it up to see the salmon before. Very different than the walleye procedure, very interesting indeed ;) I guess the steelhead procedure is done more like walleye except they are sedated with co2 first. Going to try to catch that in the spring ;D
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http://www.newyorkupstate.com/outdoors/2017/10/fish_girl_outdoors_upset_by_littering_salmon_fishing_slobs_on_salmon_river.html#incart_river_home (http://www.newyorkupstate.com/outdoors/2017/10/fish_girl_outdoors_upset_by_littering_salmon_fishing_slobs_on_salmon_river.html#incart_river_home)
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That is a great story Raquettedacker! Well at least the part about people taking the initiative to help clean up is. The trash not so much.
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Great story! I suggest someone with facebook ( which I don't have) contact her and ask her to come to this thread and add to it in her own words!
secondly years ago the drift boat capts would get together do down the river getting line out and picking up trash ,it was amazing how much line the pulled out of the river , does anyone know if they still do this?
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Great story! I suggest someone with facebook ( which I don't have) contact her and ask her to come to this thread and add to it in her own words!
secondly years ago the drift boat capts would get together do down the river getting line out and picking up trash ,it was amazing how much line the pulled out of the river , does anyone know if they still do this?
I pulled my share of line out last weekend. Some of it was even my own. At least I got some of my flies back. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Well on my way home from Adams NY I stopped at a few streams , lots of guys out fishing and seen a few fish , also saw the GIGs on south sandy yesterday
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How's the steelhead fishing in the SR? I'll be heading up Wednesday night to fish a long weekend. Last I heard the water was high and the fishing was tough. Any suggestions are appreciated. I'll be using a fly rod. Curious if I should be rigged up with sink tip or if a few nice sized split shots will do the trick.
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Westernmas give one of the shops a call
Salmon river sport shop 315-298-3434
Or all seasons 1-315-298-6433 hope this helps ,
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Westernmas give one of the shops a call
Salmon river sport shop 315-298-3434
Or all seasons 1-315-298-6433 hope this helps ,
Thanks. I'll stop in at one of the shops to get the lowdown. I'm going up regardless. Going to be darn cold.
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goggle - salmon river fishing reports
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You should have plenty of elbow room Sat and Sunday as A lot of guys will be in the woods for the Southern zone gun opener. Looks like the water is coming down so that should help ya. Good luck!!!
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Very true fishshack
You would think living 5 miles from the river my whole life I’d be more on top of it ,
It’s really those pesky walleyes fault these days lol
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I hear ya Fred. I used to spend a lot of time up there chasing steelies too. Fun to catch. Too bad they don’t taste like walleyes!!!!
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Thanks for those that provided input. The fishing was very good from Thursday-Sunday. We fished in flows from anywhere from the high 700s down into the 300s. It seems like the fish settled down into some holding spots after the high water. We landed fish every day. I only got one but it was my first steelhead that I have actually landed. I've been up for several years now and was never able to actually land one. I've hooked a bunch but always seemed to get broken off or pull the hook. The weather held up until Sunday and since we stay on the edge of tug hill we woke up early and got on the rode back to MA. Any idea how much snow they ended up with? I thought I heard about 10 inches in some parts.
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Congrats , I’m glad all went well
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monday was interesting, we got about 6 inches of snow in altmar in a few hours. Amazing how wet you get fishing in heavy snow like that, even with rain gear and waders on. It was a good week of fishing.
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had a good day on the river. Went 7 for 15 today. pics to follow
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Nicely done kc!
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fishing Gods has been good to me this year. I fished today and went 5 for 6. In the past 4 trips I am 17 for 35 on steelhead. Banner year for me
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Nice, kc! That's awesome.
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hey not sure why no one is posting about salmon river but there are some fish and I dusted this thread off ..... I know theres fish if anyone cares to post or bs about it
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Thanks Trapper!! I have been wondering why no posts myself.........
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The salmon must be hitting for Trap to dust off this thread!!!😁
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The salmon must be hitting for Trap to dust off this thread!!!😁
Sounds like the sponge patch is almost ripe 😉
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♫ ♪ ohhhhh who lives in da rapids and rips in a salmon ......sponge bob square pants ..... ♫ ♪
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I was up Sunday just to look around, only 5 guys in the town Hole. Went to the Hatchery and only saw two fish in the ladder.
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They will come, I remember many years that things ran a little later ,
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good days and bad lower river first thing in the morning then from 4 to dark ...you'll see some fish
to my friend that sent me the pictures ^5 your secret is safe and thank you
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good days and bad lower river first thing in the morning then from 4 to dark ...you'll see some fish
to my friend that sent me the pictures ^5 your secret is safe and thank you
Woh woh woh Trap.
You have friends????
;D
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I hope them woodchucks had babies .....lots of em .................. :rotflol:
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I hope them woodchucks had babies .....lots of em .................. :rotflol:
:thumbup_smilie:
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Bigal got a nice one the other day up there skamainian.suprised he didn't post a pic ..you can see the pic on the salmon river tackle shop or baitshop website
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Here it is.
(https://s15.postimg.cc/45wg3nqhz/IMG_20180902_105448059_HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/45wg3nqhz/)
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:thumbup_smilie:
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Skamania are a summer run/spring spawning strain of steelhead which was developed by the State of Washington from wild stocks on the Washougal River. Currently Skamania strain steelhead are only stocked in the Salmon and Little Salmon River's. These fish can enter the river as early as May with the bulk of the run coming in the June - September period. Skamania fishing tends to be "hit or miss" and is very dependent on the river condition. Conditions which can stimulate a run on the Salmon River are special recreational water releases or rising water levels caused by heavy rain showers. Skamania tend to race up the river quickly, so timing is critical. Your best chance of catching one of these powerful fish is during and immediately following one of these periods of increased flow. Even though Skamania enter the river during the summer, they will not be sexually mature and ready to spawn until late February through early April.
I thought this was cool
and I'm glad you posted the picture al that's a nice fish my friend
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Thanks Trapper. Cool thing is that was the only hit I got all day. And I got it on my own creation of a fly. ;D
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Nice fish Al!
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Guess I didn’t look far enough back, nice fish 🎣
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♫ ♪ ohhhhh who lives in da rapids and rips in a salmon ......sponge bob square pants ..... ♫ ♪
😂
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Great fish!!😎
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I didn't go up yesterday but the DSR report said no fish there .......
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Bet there was a run today...
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oh there was DSR reported non stop action all day sure it will be great as far as pineville anyways
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sounds like a run is on :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
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Is there any salmon in the river???😁
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Is there any salmon in the river???😁
Is it the middle of September? 8)
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Oswego needs to catch up a bit but yes it's on !!!!!!
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Is there any salmon in the river???😁
yes
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Is there any one who targets the salmon with centerpins gear? Or tossing hardware? Never really fished the salmon river and I'm not into the sponge hatch. Just looking for any tips or tricks anyone might be able to give as I'm gonna go try it this next Tuesday.
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Is there any one who targets the salmon with centerpins gear? Or tossing hardware? Never really fished the salmon river and I'm not into the sponge hatch. Just looking for any tips or tricks anyone might be able to give as I'm gonna go try it this next Tuesday.
pm sent
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Thanks for the info bigal.
Does anyone fish hardware in the river? Spinners spoons plugs?
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You'd better check the regs for salmon river. Only single hooks allowed.
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I make all my spinners with a 1/2 inch gap siwash single salmon hook... I've been checked many times on wny tribs never had an issue... I'll have to look again but I think u can use trebles on a floating lure as long as there not to big or stationary on the lure
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https://www.fishsalmonriver.com/Regulations (https://www.fishsalmonriver.com/Regulations)
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big push of fish in river today according to DSR report. They're here. :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
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(https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F&hash=95b82c89ba4d3bc33c562212006dc28d)https://www.newyorkupstate.com/outdoors/2018/09/salmon_run_2018_fishing_action_hot_on_salmon_river_its_on_like_donkey_kong.html
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I was in town yesterday Loads of guys up and the fishing was good , this weekend will be a zoo 😜 good luck to all that head up here ,
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crowds ...really? :rotflol:
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Well had to go to town (Pulaski) this fish was in the sun for all of an hour , do you think it is time to flip it to get those new Coe grill marks on it lmao
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Well had to go to town (Pulaski) this fish was in the sun for all of an hour , do you think it is time to flip it to get those grill marks on the other side lmao
(https://i.postimg.cc/TLdVfSnW/1_AD77_D12-4_AC8-473_E-_B0_AC-6_C32_EB26_CBB8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TLdVfSnW)
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Well had to go to town (Pulaski) this fish was in the sun for all of an hour , do you think it is time to flip it to get those grill marks on the other side lmao
(https://i.postimg.cc/TLdVfSnW/1_AD77_D12-4_AC8-473_E-_B0_AC-6_C32_EB26_CBB8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TLdVfSnW)
maybe they've got their exhaust on and smoking it too :wacko:
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That King could use some ice! ;D
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I think you should save the ice for a Manhattan 😜 ,
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Manhattan is my drink of choice just ask the walleye.....i always have one as I am frying them up
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Past weekend on the river
(https://i.postimg.cc/t7R7St6T/9368.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t7R7St6T)
(https://i.postimg.cc/r0VyHMKb/9233.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/r0VyHMKb)
(https://i.postimg.cc/qzhJSmvk/9225.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qzhJSmvk)
(https://i.postimg.cc/1n7SY6xn/9215.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1n7SY6xn)
(https://i.postimg.cc/PCnjcT74/9217.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PCnjcT74)
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Well done Pounder , thanks for sharing ,
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Looks like a great time, nice work!!
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Nice job!
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Nice work! Love the waders!
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I fished the big lake for walleye on Sunday. On the way up in early am, Rt 13 looked like opening day deer season years ago with the trucks headed to the river. Numbskulls passing us on double line at 5:00 am just to get there. On the way home, we drove through Pulaski just for the entertainment. What a mad house! And I'm told it wasn't really that crowded. They can have it. I had my fun with them in the lake.
Oh, and that fish was probably destined to become fertilizer anyway. But still, that's just a stupid thing to do.
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Well had to go to town (Pulaski) this fish was in the sun for all of an hour , do you think it is time to flip it to get those grill marks on the other side lmao
(https://i.postimg.cc/TLdVfSnW/1_AD77_D12-4_AC8-473_E-_B0_AC-6_C32_EB26_CBB8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TLdVfSnW)
Love it. Happens at the canal with stripers. Makes ya wonder.
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water is currently 450 fps water temp 54 fish everywhere whats not to love ....... see it this one stays up
(https://i.postimg.cc/1g79mHnH/images_NXJG0_F16.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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remeber when this thread would get 20 to 30 post a night with info anout everything from weather to history to how the bite was .....wonder where everyone went
(https://i.postimg.cc/jCRYPTm2/images_NXJG0_F16.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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They’re on FB now Trap.
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i know ...... kp miss the ole snagsters over here
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i know ...... kp miss the ole snagsters over here
Make fishfinder great again!
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Make fishfinder great again!
X2 ;D
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I find it funny though, if I go to my Messages there's a fb ad at the bottom of the page! :o
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I'll never use that platform to discuss fishing. Never.
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I find it funny though, if I go to my Messages there's a fb ad at the bottom of the page! :o
Those ads are likely shown because someone, using your computer, has been on FB. Ads are generally sensitive to recent browsing history, not coming, necessarily, from this site. Allowing ad space on a web site is a way of lessoning the financial burdon on the owner(s).
Just say'n.
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That's why there are PORNHUB ads on the bottom of my page......OOOOPPPPS
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i know ...... kp miss the ole snagsters over here
Shane’s here.
He’s just sneaky these days.
He popped in with comments a few times this summer in the Oneida Lake thread.
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yeah but i miss the way he posted on thais tread and all his weather and pictures ....i have to take a drive up to the ole altmar outfitters and see the old boy
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y4GJzWvk/images_NXJG0_F16.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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i haven't been up toward salmon river in a week any buddy been up????
(https://i.postimg.cc/94dPwT9r/images_NXJG0_F16.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Passed by there yesterday. The river is full of beans & stinkfish.
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I had to go up yesterday to watch my grandsons football game and it was heavily populated ,
I saw many mud sharks on tow ropes 😉
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yeah but i miss the way he posted on thais tread and all his weather and pictures ....i have to take a drive up to the ole altmar outfitters and see the old boy
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y4GJzWvk/images_NXJG0_F16.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
You miss pics Trap? Here’s an old archive for you! LOL!😜
(https://i.postimg.cc/k64ss61f/8_A75_EA3_D-_B991-4976-8_A39-11_DB9_B35_E529.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k64ss61f)
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Omg lol , that hairbag (AKA tumbleweed) , that hair is a lot thinner these days 😜
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And white! 😜
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Lol your a DK
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You miss pics Trap? Here’s an old archive for you! LOL!😜
(https://i.postimg.cc/k64ss61f/8_A75_EA3_D-_B991-4976-8_A39-11_DB9_B35_E529.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k64ss61f)
What kind of salmon is that? An Atlantic?neat pic.
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Winter steelhead , B&W pics aren’t great ,
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Release, you wanna tell the rest of the class how you almost got fired from your job because of this picture???😁
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welcome back kotter :rotflol:
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KP if you want me to I can it is funny right down to the bribe
Good 1 Trapp
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I didnt have a beard but I had a FRO like that.... :afro: :afro:
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I didnt have a beard but I had a FRO like that.... :afro: :afro:
I remember the pic 👍🏻
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Had to have the big pick in your back pocket.. 8)
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Yep the big one
(https://i.postimg.cc/wyJH6H1D/DCFF5266-7_E48-4_B0_C-_B7_EC-_AA2_C57_FFAC22.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wyJH6H1D)
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I didnt have a beard but I had a FRO like that.... :afro: :afro:
Sooooo.... where is this pic???🤔
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i wanna see the knuckleheads that listened to disco and wore leisure suits
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i wanna see the knuckleheads that listened to disco and wore leisure suits
ahem
I also loved the Doors.
😎
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i really wonder if morrison hadn't died the way he did would he have just faded away??
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He’s been fishing eyes on Erie with me
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Yep the big one
(https://i.postimg.cc/wyJH6H1D/DCFF5266-7_E48-4_B0_C-_B7_EC-_AA2_C57_FFAC22.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wyJH6H1D)
Thats the one... ;D
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Sooooo.... where is this pic???🤔
Here ya go little buddy..... ;D
(https://i.postimg.cc/yJCy2FS1/20181001_072649.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yJCy2FS1)
(https://i.postimg.cc/CZtSFxSx/20181001_072447.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CZtSFxSx)
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Whoa sweet FRO and Pornstache
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Whoa sweet FRO and Pornstache
x2!!😁
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Cute little bugger , what happened 😜
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:P :P :P :P
The perch in the first pict and the hot blond in the 2nd didnt mind....... 8) 8)
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:P :P :P :P
The perch in the first pict and the hot blond in the 2nd didnt mind....... 8) 8)
Lmao ,
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:P :P :P :P
The perch in the first pict and the hot blond in the 2nd didnt mind....... 8) 8)
I never saw the perch.
:rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
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I never saw the perch.
:rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
🤐 😉
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secret plans are in the works for big aland trapper to make a attack on this river friday :D
later in the month the trapper freddie ropers reunion tour will happen ......get the egg buckets ready! :rotflol:
(https://i.postimg.cc/0MTWXDjS/images_NXJG0_F16.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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secret plans are in the works for big aland trapper to make a attack on this river friday :D
later in the month the trapper freddie ropers reunion tour will happen ......get the egg buckets ready! :rotflol:
Lmao don’t forget the fish that taste good this time of year ,
You need to kill a deer or 2 first 😉
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i got all night to kill deer :rotflol: ...... we got to be poachers we fish for salmon & steelhead :rotflol:
(https://i.postimg.cc/0MTWXDjS/images_NXJG0_F16.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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i got all night to kill deer :rotflol: ...... we got to be poachers we fish for salmon & steelhead :rotflol:
I just got new batteries for the Q beam no need to fight the crowds 😜
(https://i.postimg.cc/0MTWXDjS/images_NXJG0_F16.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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i got all night to kill deer :rotflol: ...... we got to be poachers we fish for salmon & steelhead :rotflol:
(https://i.postimg.cc/0MTWXDjS/images_NXJG0_F16.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
starting to be the season when people start getting the deer with their bumpers. Not good. :( :(
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going up friday my self
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going up friday my self
Good luck P Man loads of fish
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I'll be up tomorrow afternoon. Can't wait
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Heading up tomorrow as well. Raquett wrong sunglasses guy. Not 8). more like :afro:
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not sure where i'll be but i'll be heading up after 11
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Was quite an interesting trip! Those salmon are pretty incredible.
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Glad you had an interesting trip , it’s much better a little later on
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hope you ya fun matt
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Had to go to the St. Lawrence to pull a boat for a bud. Slipped through town Saturday to hit All seasons and the cheese shop, busy place for sure! I was the only guy looking at walleye tackle, ha ha.....
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Anyone been up to the Salmon lately? I'll be heading up next Wednesday for a long weekend. Hoping we can get into some steelies. I'm curious how the action has been.
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Waters flowing pretty high now. 2000 at Pineville. There were good numbers of Steelies in though
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Anyone have any suggestions on fishing the high water up there? Should I have sinking line or at least sink tip or just add hearty amount of split shot paired with some heavy flies?
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My son Jeff and I just booked a drift boat for 12/21
Will be staying with Shane of course.
Can't wait.
:thumbup_smilie:
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hope you do well ;D
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My son Jeff and I just booked a drift boat for 12/21
Will be staying with Shane of course.
Can't wait.
:thumbup_smilie:
:o :o Your gonna freeze.... ;D
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Mac can handle it.Not!!
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I’m tough!
;)
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Well...semi-tough.
Rg
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Well...semi-tough.
Rg
Blubber-tough Bob
;)
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you'll have fun ... I would have booked earlier when the kings were in they are a blast in a drift boat you will have fun with the chome ^5 mac .... shanes is the place to stay you never hear any negative comments about his operation...hey at the rate the weather is going ya can go ice fishing with us to when your here mac ;D
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Did this before Trap.
Jeff has 2 buddies up there that are charter guys.
Last spring we did 2 (sat and sun) and stayed with Shane.
Jeff has stayed with Shane a lot over the past few years.
Shane is a great guy.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to it.
I have foot heater pads and besides, we aren't standing on the ice where it draws on my feet aggravating my neuropathy.
Inside the boat it isn't so bad.
If someone needs to get out of the boat and go chase a fish, it will be Jeff.
8)
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a guy named Shane used to post here , , ,
#Where's_Snagger
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a guy named Shane used to post here , , ,
#Where's_Snagger
FB
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a guy named Shane used to post here , , ,
#Where's_Snagger
Facebook and a new love in his life
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Fred you beat me to it.
Apparently just moved his lady freind in
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Did he buy her winter boots yet?
And its not real till she gets rid of those southern plates on her car.. :rotflol: :rotflol: ;D
Sure miss the ol guy....
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well sure was a lot more people on this thread when he was here, in fact a lot more people were in the new York threads period and he had the Oneida threat going well too ......
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A buddy of mine went to the river over the weekend and landed 12 steelhead and a salmon. Yes, I said salmon. He sent me a pic and it wasn't all beat up yet either. A late spawner for sure. ;D ;D
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Ive seen fresh cohos caught in January
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late cohos happen alot
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was 2 for 3 on steelhead today at the river. My buddy Chris landed 10+ today
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hoping to go this week end
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late cohos happen alot
It wasn't a coho. Was a king. And he went back up this past weekend and got another one except that one was a jack king salmon.
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I'm here now.
8)
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Stopped in a said hi to Shane.
Reserved a room for Jeff and I for 2 nights next week.
Gonna go float boatin.
:thumbup_smilie:
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Hope it’s nice weather for the 2 of you , lots of fish around
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Stopped in a said hi to Shane.
Reserved a room for Jeff and I for 2 nights next week.
Gonna go float boatin.
:thumbup_smilie:
Hope you slay em Mac
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So how did you do on the river Mac Attack? Was up there yesterday. I went 1 for 4. Had some bad leader material or I would have been 4 for 4.
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So how did you do on the river Mac Attack? Was up there yesterday. I went 1 for 4. Had some bad leader material or I would have been 4 for 4.
We leave for up there later this afternoon.
Fishing tomorrow and Saturday.
I'll take some pics and post something after we get back.
Mac
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Good luck Mac. Waters gonna be high.... :-\
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only flowing 350 today and not scheduled to go up
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They upped it to 750 at 18:00 until midnight on Friday. Sounds good to me.
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They upped it to 750 at 18:00 until midnight on Friday. Sounds good to me.
Yup
Saw that
750 is ok
We’re at Shane’s now
Life is good
Tomorrow we fish!!
👍
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Good luck! Hope you guys hammer ‘em.
If all goes well I’ll be out there Saturday morning.
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Good luck guys
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Good luck Mac. At least its a little warmer for you..... ;D
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Mac.....good luck to you and Jeff :)
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Water went way up
Like 1100
Went 1 for 4
And never saw one
So more like 1-3
Here’s the one we got
(https://i.postimg.cc/cr3f1PLH/48-E70-B26-C3-B5-4-AF0-9809-9-D5-E042-E634-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cr3f1PLH)
Saw a bald eagle -
(https://i.postimg.cc/w1Tx4sZp/2-CA994-BD-26-D4-4-F1-F-8-A26-6-B2538909-E8-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w1Tx4sZp)
Going out in another drift boat tomorrow. Hopefully we will do batter.
Now to find a steak and some beer somewhere.
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Nice fish and pics , who’s your guide tomorrow?
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His name is Tyler
Zach was our guide today.
Zach’s been guiding for 10 yrs
Tyler only 3
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Wow
Looking at the rain scheduled over the next 18 hrs.
:o
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Nice job mister....
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Hope you didn't freeze your arz off today
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Hope you didn't freeze your arz off today
::) ::) :-X
Hes in a drift boat sitting on it.....I dont think its going anywhere..... 8) 8)
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::) ::) :-X
Hes in a drift boat sitting on it.....I dont think its going anywhere..... 8) 8)
Hey mister funnyman, there was also a heater in the drift boat.
So there!
:cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo:
We quit about 11:30 today.
One landed.
And I lost one.
I seem to do that a lot.
:rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
Cold, snowy, and windy.
Yup...………..really had a lot of fun.
I kept thinking about the snook trip I took with Donna in Belize when it was 85.
:o
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The one we got today and some other pics I took
(https://i.postimg.cc/2VqvWzFn/3493083-A-2-F90-45-B2-A873-3-D0-B78-B2969-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2VqvWzFn)
(https://i.postimg.cc/VrL0k1kr/A8518378-DE1-A-44-D6-B707-3-F004-C1-F163-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VrL0k1kr)
(https://i.postimg.cc/YvG3t6sK/A88-E2-E09-4-EB7-4-D66-A57-B-5955601-B69-AD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YvG3t6sK)
(https://i.postimg.cc/QBDWvcLq/B54-B5-EB3-9255-4504-8-F43-C1-E082050-D90.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QBDWvcLq)
(https://i.postimg.cc/8FbrGsNg/D3877-BFD-FC1-A-4966-BDE0-856-DADAC6-E47.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8FbrGsNg)
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Well, your good for the economy anyway .
Rg
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"you're"
:whistling:
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Looks like a good time spent with your son.... :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
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Your fourth picture is why I don't fish weekends.
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Your fourth picture is why I don't fish weekends.
And that was nothing compared to some stretches.
For as cold and snotty as it was I amazed at how many people were out there.
Not really for me.
I was in a boat, with a propane heater at my feet, and I was "uncomfortable".
Without the heater I think after an hour I would have been done.
We launched at 7:00 and pulled lines at 11:30 and got back to the launch at noon.
Day before, in the 50's, we launched at 7:00 and pulled the boat at 3:30.
I had fun.
Never landed a fish, but had a few on.
I spent more time enjoying the scenery and nature than casting.
Jeff is there for the fish.
I'm there for Jeff.
Nice way to go into the holidays.
;)
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Good dad👍👍👍 quality time for sure.
I spent the afternoon in the little wood shop with my son......it was way warmer.
Rg
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My buddy went to the river Saturday. Said crowds weren't bad at all and he hooked around 40 fish and landed around 20. Was fishing with his brother and sometimes they had doubles. A good day for sure. :thumbup_smilie:
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Was nice meeting Chowdaire today on the river. Maybe next time we can catch some fish.
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Nice meeting you too, kc. I’ve had a couple of slow trips in a row but hopefully it picks up again.
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thanks dacker hey mac :nono:
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thanks dacker hey mac :nono:
Lol
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Geez I saw the new add to the thread and I thought there might be a couple early fish in the river!!! two years ago I got into some on Aug 12th
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with the lake still high who knows ;D
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Talk to a buddy that was into them pretty good in front of oswego Friday.......
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I went 13/16 on a solo trip out of Oz yesterday. Kings are starting to darken a bit but seems like the bulk of them are still pretty deep.
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Here is a mixed bag from July 28th from goon boy who was mating on the Northwoods
(https://i.postimg.cc/KKm5jRQK/55421-DE8-F55-D-40-B0-8-E3-A-12-FA0-B25-DE65.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KKm5jRQK)
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Nice steelie from today that I’d love to run into again around December in the river.
(https://i.postimg.cc/CBCzWwBf/1-F1-E6389-BB21-4-AB6-B75-C-E6312323-E208.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CBCzWwBf)
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Nice fish chow
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that's a nice chrome right there
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sweet
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the new jersey and pa invasion has begun in pulaski parking lots are filling up ! fish been in the river for some time guess word is out ....... I haven't seen much activity in Oswego ....good luck
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I might be over in a week or so.... ;D
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Yep the silly season is on , 😜 big AL sent me some great pics starting 8-13 of mix bags of trout and salmon
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Yeah I'm not on FB but my brother is and has been sending me pictures of Shane's place for the past 3 weeks... ;D
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He’s been sprucing up the place 👍
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I see that..
Maybe it has something to do with a certain pretty lady? 8) 8) 8) ;D
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I’m sure
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I see that..
Maybe it has something to do with a certain pretty lady? 8) 8) 8) ;D
No
Has to do with her son.
Shane now has slave labor.
🤣🤣🤣
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I might be over in a week or so.... ;D
You better let me know Loser....
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You better let me know Loser....
Ok but it will probably be a week day...
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Ok but it will probably be a week day...
Man, what a loser....
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Nice steelie from today that I’d love to run into again around December in the river.
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Good work Bob!!🎣
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What size single hook do you put on plugs and kwik fish lures for fishing in the river.
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Are there still any live web cams left.
I bet its a mad house there today...
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Drove up the river yesterday just to see what was going on. A lot more people than I expected. The usual few seemed to be catching fish. Fish seemed to be throughout the river all the way to Altmar. River was at a nice fishable level. Went out to Selkirk Shores to check the lake. A bit choppy with quite a few boats in close. Looks like theres fish in the lake as well as the river.
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What size single hook do you put on plugs and kwik fish lures for fishing in the river.
1/0 or 2/0 will work depending on the brand. Had an Owner siwash stinger 1/0 straighten the other day. Get stronger ones than that.
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Chowdaire is right , 2/0 mustad measures just 1/2” if it bends out it will exceed 1/2” gap
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Just do what everyone does. 1..2..3..yank repeat..
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Loads of fish from 18-25’ , far as the river small surges of fish coming through , some rain would do a world of good and the water temps could stand to drop a few degrees ,
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Loads of fish from 18-25’ , far as the river small surges of fish coming through , some rain would do a world of good and the water temps could stand to drop a few degrees ,
How's the sponge hatch ;D
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How's the sponge hatch ;D
Its coming along nicely , it should ripen very soon ,
Stopped up to the Altmar Outfitters for a visit , there were several nice kings waiting to be cleaned ,
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Its coming along nicely , it should ripen very soon ,
Stopped up to the Altmar Outfitters for a visit , there were several nice kings waiting to be cleaned ,
Exelent, I need to collect some black and orange to re-stock. Snag sure seems busy, gotta drop off his pickles soon.
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Loads of fish from 18-25’ , far as the river small surges of fish coming through , some rain would do a world of good and the water temps could stand to drop a few degrees ,
looks like some rain today might do the trick
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What’s all this talk about sponge? It grows in the river?🤔
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What’s all this talk about sponge? It grows in the river?🤔
Its a natural forage. And one of the only food sources salmon rely on when they spawn ;D
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Its a natural forage. And one of the only food sources salmon rely on when they spawn ;D
:clapping: :rotflol:
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Salmon seem to favor black , orange and then blue , depending on what stage of death they are in , fresh , Black and the ever popular White 😉🎣
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I ain't saying much I want to be able to post :rotflol:
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Went to watch my grandson play football in Pulaski
Came through 2A to Huldane building then afterwards went through town , wall to wall people
With the low water Oswego and salmon river are getting the bulk of the attention , sorry no pics
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I ain't saying much I want to be able to post :rotflol:
😜
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Salmon seem to favor black , orange and then blue , depending on what stage of death they are in , fresh , Black and the ever popular White 😉🎣
I had no idea! Thanks for explaining that for me!!😁
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I'll be making my annual trip out on Thursday for the weekend. Looks like a lot of rain mid week. Hopefully that brings in a big push
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Salmon seem to favor black , orange and then blue , depending on what stage of death they are in , fresh , Black and the ever popular White 😉🎣
Ever notice they seem to ingest it through the anus? Its the strangest thing, like a reverse digestion or something. And they seem to use them as camouflage, often covering their fins utilizing the hooks they must forage from the snags scattered along the river. Very resourceful fish despite the fact they are slowly creeping to their death.
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Yes , I did notice the various places they do collect jewelry and flies , further study is needed on this subject 🎣
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they like crazy eggs and a 1/0 hook too!!!!
I prefer a size 4 or 6 glowbug but I'm a fly fisherman
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Went to watch my grandson play football in Pulaski
Came through 2A to Huldane building then afterwards went through town , wall to wall people
With the low water Oswego and salmon river are getting the bulk of the attention , sorry no pics
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Here's a pic I took from my point of view at the ballfields area on Sunday.
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Welcome back Trapper. Missed you buddy. :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
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Welcome back Trapper. Missed you buddy. :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
Back?!?!?
He never went away.
Lord knows we try though. 🤣🤣🤣
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Nice pic BA
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Another reason I don't fish the tribs!
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Another reason I don't fish the tribs!
When the rains come and raise the creeks , it will open other places to fish to get away from the crowds , still places on the salmon to fish if you don’t mind doing some hiking
Lack of rain has caused the heavy concentration of fisherman In some areas ,
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When the rains come and raise the creeks , it will open other places to fish to get away from the crowds , still places on the salmon to fish if you don’t mind doing some hiking
Lack of rain has caused the heavy concentration of fisherman In some areas ,
we'll be fishing the tribs next rain ;D
right now salmon river is the only game in town and word is out we been getting fish since early august ...... it's a greet run my suggestion take the time off work come up on week days and like fred said maybe take a walk
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I’m out of commission for a couple days do to shoulder surgery , then I’ll be out chasing some kind of fish
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I have a good idea were you will be ;D
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I’m out of commission for a couple days do to shoulder surgery , then I’ll be out chasing some kind of fish
Best wishes and speedy recovery to you.
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Best wishes and speedy recovery to you.
Thanks , can’t keep an old dog down very long 😉
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Best wishes and speedy recovery to you.
X2
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I’m out of commission for a couple days do to shoulder surgery , then I’ll be out chasing some kind of fish
d**n Fred! Didn’t know you got your surgery. Little maintenance to the ol jigging arm!! Let me know when your back out and at em. Get better soon.
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rain last night brought the water level to 482 cfs as of 3 am
Oswego actually lowered a bit 2060 cfs and a tenp of 68f
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(https://i.postimg.cc/5XfZDgcR/20191003-132750.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5XfZDgcR)
Found a couple fresh ones today. 19lb 2oz
Had plenty of jewelry in him but still plenty of fight
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Nice , I see that boar was wearing some blue camo 😉
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I’m out of commission for a couple days do to shoulder surgery , then I’ll be out chasing some kind of fish
The sling is off, fish are biting 🙄and, the weather is horrible!!! Let’s go... I know you like horrible fishing conditions!!!😜
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The sling is off, fish are biting 🙄and, the weather is horrible!!! Let’s go... I know you like horrible fishing conditions!!!😜
Wouldn’t have it any other way 🤪
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Nice , I see that boar was wearing some blue camo 😉
ah the ole blue sponge hatch has begun.
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Always one of the favorites
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Yeah he had about 4 different hooks in him. Got a nice 26lber today. Theres definitely some nice fish rolling through the streams
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Glad your having a good time 🎣
Keep the pics coming 👍
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So sad, my condolences to the family and friends. :(
https://www.syracuse.com/crime/2019/10/70-year-old-man-dies-after-falling-into-oswego-river-on-fishing-trip-police-say.html
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Sad indeed , thoughts out to family and friends ,
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Thoughts and prayers to family and friends :'(
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Always one of the favorites
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lamo
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I still question this boating accident ,why did the one gentleman have to hold on the side of the boat to stay afloat if he had a floatation device on? why did the other man go under and drown with a life jacket on?
The 71-year-old man was able to stay above water by holding onto the side of a boat but the the 70-year-old man had to be pulled from the water, police said.
Both men were wearing flotation devices at the time of the accident.
so the life jackets didn't work?
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Black river a small boat went down do to anchoring off the stern , there was a water release , they were rescued by 1 of the guides
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well my record is 7 hooks in one fish 3 had sponge one crazy egg and a chrome 0/1 ...........he had a nice lamprey scar too....... I think it tenderizes them cause some guy from jersey asked if he could have him just before I threw him in .......
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Must be that they are so hungry , over the years trapp , they take flies the same way 😉
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Black river a small boat went down do to anchoring off the stern , there was a water release , they were rescued by 1 of the guides
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Yea
The dopes anchored off the stern of the boat instead of the bow. It was a square transom. Idiots!!!
Lucky to be alive.
There’s a reason drift boats are shaped the way they are!!!
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Your absolutely right Mac
Matter of fact saw the same thing yesterday on the lake , and they were also older guys ,
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I listened to mac b---- about dumb boaters does that count as my boater safety course?
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I listened to mac b---- about dumb boaters does that count as my boater safety course?
Yup
You’re good Trap
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little heads up the field that was allowing parking across the road from the post office in Oswego has been posted ..... you'll have to find parking on the side streets and walk to the river ....I don't know why the change in heart and why they posted it .I personally seen no damage
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not much to report fishing wasn't that impressive seen a lot come down from the d**n in Oswego the skein train didn't have a lot of action although a few steelies where caught ,I heard down below the Utica street bridge they are getting fish at night on plugs ....worth a try
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These salmon just luv dorsal flies 😜
(https://i.postimg.cc/fJQ1bHsp/66-A13-ECA-7-F0-B-4-DB4-8-B8-E-A4981-FD64020.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fJQ1bHsp)
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These salmon just luv dorsal flies 😜
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another example of how they cleverly camo them selves to sneak up on the spongue :)
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another example of how they cleverly camo them selves to sneak up on the spongue :)
What's a "spongue".
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What's a "spongue".
😜
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When you all go to hell that's what's going to happen to you.....reincarnated as a salmon and thrown in the river by Woody's.
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Better than an Amish horse 😃
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Better than an Amish horse 😃
Amish what?
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What's a "spongue".
exotic sponge native to Altmar 8)
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exotic sponge native to Altmar 8)
Never heard of it.
Anything you can point me to that shows more info on this (these).
Thanks!
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seen a lot of chrome today ;D
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Amish what?
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I was brought up around actual working horses they even bathed and curried , , so I’d rather be reincarnated as a salmon rather than an Amish horse 😉
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Just remember.....if you make it all the way up the 30 mile war zone to your destination you win by getting FILETED AND RELEASED!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o
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Lmao , or go zombie
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Exactly...either a fate worse than death. On a better note...the striped ones are coming!
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well with this rain comeing so will the best fishing of the season my prediction is the tribs will flood and when they drop every stream will be full of fish ....happens every year ;D get ready big guy you little stream will be rocking
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Yea I'm ready I got the treble hooks with sponge..whoops I mean flys ready :thumbup_smilie:
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i'll take a ride and check some tribs today ;D
Oswego river water flow was around 2000 or less it is now over 7000 and riseing fast!
salmon river at Pineville was just over 400 is now 630 cfs and rising fast
if you do go wear a life jacket
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Oswego river is running near12,000cfs and the water temp finally is dropping down to 56 degrees
salmon river is running at 763 cfs at Pineville
remember it was still raining this morning and these waters can rise very fast watch for rising water and don't get in a place you can't get out of quickly if need be.
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All this talk about sponge bloom, rising water, flies and hooks has me thinking of hitting the river!! Is there any perch in the river??
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All this talk about sponge bloom, rising water, flies and hooks has me thinking of hitting the river!! Is there any perch in the river??
Of course there are Perch!! KING Perch! LOL
;D ;D
SeanP
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https://www.newyorkupstate.com/outdoors/2019/10/it-was-amazing-pro-bass-angler-international-group-fish-the-salmon-river.html (https://www.newyorkupstate.com/outdoors/2019/10/it-was-amazing-pro-bass-angler-international-group-fish-the-salmon-river.html)
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Awesome story...thanks for sharing that Dom! :clapping:
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wonders why a pro bass fisherman needs a guide to snag salmon ????
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Oswego river water flow 12,900 cfs
salmon river 596 cfs at Pineville
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wonders why a pro bass fisherman needs a guide to snag salmon ????
Lol! I gave Ike your number for secret info on the river and lessons, coulda saved himself a bunch of money. Only thing it would’ve cost him is a cup of coffee!!😁
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Of course there are Perch!! KING Perch! LOL
;D ;D
SeanP
😎👍🏻
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wonders why a pro bass fisherman needs a guide to snag salmon ????
Most likely needed someone to show him how to put waders on !
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Lol! I gave Ike your number for secret info on the river and lessons, coulda saved himself a bunch of money. Only thing it would’ve cost him is a cup of coffee!!😁
tell them i'll give lessons along with my partner Freddie and well teach them to toss those green carp and fish for walleyes ;D
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That ding-dong Release couldn’t catch a cold , trapp you should find a better fishing partner
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wonders why a pro bass fisherman needs a guide to snag salmon ????
Wanted that private access I suppose.
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That ding-dong Release couldn’t catch a cold , trapp you should find a better fishing partner
his fish catching may be questionable but he's great back up when trouble starts :rotflol:
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Does a Bass-Pro lay down on the rivers edge to land a salmon???...h2l
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they kiss them and let them go before they even egg them!!!!
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Does a Bass-Pro lay down on the rivers edge to land a salmon???...h2l
Old habits are hard to break 😉
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it's easier to see them with a few war wounds and white fins :rotflol:
seriously watch when you handle a fish if it has a hook from a previous battle you can get a nasty wound ......lot of guys just grab their leaders and break salmon off leaving the hook in a fishes side ...... be careful have fun
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Yes be careful about those hooks , I use to clean fish in the fall and been hooked a few times , far as landing use a cheap wool glove , you can tail salmon and trout , you just need a firm grip little practice works great
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BIG GUY how did you do?
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BIG GUY how did you do?
Big Guy don't fish the Salmon river so I doubt you'll find him on this thread. He's a trib guy. :whistling:
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Trap, be ready for the Zombie run!!! I’m ready!! We’ll see if we can get the ol buzzard down there with us! 😜 those fish are much easier to see for when I forget my glasses at home!!😁
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when their good and white they are at their peak! as a culinary expert I learned a simple fish soup ! snag a couple half white salmon ....the ones that can hardly swim are best i'll explain why later .... get a big pot now rip a couple of the nastiest salmon you can find ...... hold them over the pot and wring them out like a wash cloth ......this is why you want the ones that don't move much less fighting .... when your stock pot is about half full throw in some taters and sliced carrots maybe some spinach and garlic as well ... heat to a boil then just simmer and watch the buzzards line up in your trees.....nothing like a good healthy dinner supplied by mother nature ;D cold weather and wrung out zombie salmon soup... just a Pulaski tradition
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😂
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Great recipe 👍
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Great recipe 👍
Yea Trap, what time is dinner? :rotflol: :rotflol:
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pictured here is a prime example of one just nearing the "ripe " stage the white is starting to show well I personal like to wait till you have the well defines white strip down the back as well ....little note get your fish before the gill plates get to bad you want a solid place to attach your drag rope .....I can tell this fiss is doomed to be seen on a Chinese all you can eat buffet or be found in a fish taco
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That's sushi grade Trapp!! LOL
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pictured here is a prime example of one just nearing the "ripe " stage the white is starting to show well I personal like to wait till you have the well defines white strip down the back as well ....little note get your fish before the gill plates get to bad you want a solid place to attach your drag rope .....I can tell this fiss is doomed to be seen on a Chinese all you can eat buffet or be found in a fish taco
😂
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this fish shows perfect coloration easy to see without glasses and in low light conditions another plus is often parts fall off so as you drag them by the time you get to the truck they are half cleaned and weigh less
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now is the time the river is full of great fish just like this for you!
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Yes sir that’s a soup pot salmon , just shake it over the pot , meat falls right off the bone
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we really need all of our DEC law enforcement at the tribs and salmon river to protect these great fish! instead of wasting time catching the double limit walleye takers and deer poachers !!!!
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Well trapp maybe Oneida will get more attention now they have bought the Cleveland elementary school
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I always found the meat to be most tender when they start turning white. Yumm Yumm.
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I always found the meat to be most tender when they start turning white. Yumm Yumm.
add a few lamprey marks and multiable hook wounds and you got one prime piece of fish right their ....remember salmon is heart healthy
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add a few lamprey marks and multiable hook wounds and you got one prime piece of fish right their ....remember salmon is heart healthy
. Haha!!! Right Trapp....if the wounds are oozing puss it’s even tastier. Kinda like a natural marinade
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Any news on the flows? It still roaring? I'm heading up the 8-13. Boy do I know how to time a trip. Highest flows so far this season and snow forecast every day I'm there. Gotta love steelhead fishing.
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http:// http://www.speydoctor.com/cfs.html
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http:// http://www.speydoctor.com/cfs.html
Thank you! I haven't seen that name in a while. I forgot about his website. Thanks for the reminder.
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Heading up there with my son Jeff tomorrow morning after bowling.
We have to prebowl because we will miss our Monday night league.
We have been in first but dropped to 3rd this past week.
(I had a very bad last 2 games) :-\
Tight league.
Anyway, tomorrow we will probably just hit the river there in Altmar before dinner.
I may just sit in the hotel bar there and watch football. lol
Staying at Shane's of course.
Monday we have a drift boat chartered with a friend of Jeff's who is a guide.
His name is Zach and we have gone with him the past 2 years.
He's really good and a super guy.
I'm sure some of you know him.
Works really hard for his money - that's for sure.
Looking forward to the trip with my boy.
The weather looks like it will be great.
No rain really in the forecast and above freezing temps so the rod guides won't be freezing up on us.
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Good luck to you and Jeff
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good luck mac
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Go get em Mac....good luck!!
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hope to be up in the am also. But I will be in town
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I’m here.
Watching the Bills game and quaffing beers at The Bib in Pulaski.
Nice place.
And just the way I like it........dead!
The barmaid is top heavy which is causing me eye strain however.
8)
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:rotflol: glad your having fun ole boy tomorrow work on a few steelies :thumbup_smilie:
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:rotflol: glad your having fun ole boy tomorrow work on a few steelies :thumbup_smilie:
Why??
BTW, I’m back to Shane’s watching the Cowboys/Pats game on the tube and the Sabres game on my cell phone. Eating pretzels drinking water. Life is ok. I’m breathing.
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Good luck Mac !!
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Not a great day.
But a good time with my son.
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That Salmon likes you Mac!!! :rotflol: :rotflol:
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That Salmon likes you Mac!!! :rotflol: :rotflol:
Omg lmao , nice Cromer
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Mac you pick that salmon up on the bank along the way. It was a slow day for sure. I managed to have 5 hook ups down low, but did not land one.
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That half dead zombie took a mag lip 3.5 believe it or not.
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OMG! Don’t tell Trapper that the salmon actually hit that lure!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Got to be getting close........Anyone seeing any fish??
2 Years ago we caught them on the 16th of August..
SeanP
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Got to be getting close........Anyone seeing any fish??
2 Years ago we caught them on the 16th of August..
SeanP
Water is 80* at Lake Ontario out to like 70’ if any fish hit river will turn belly up in short order , I’ve caught them as early as Aug 7 in past years , this was from 1978 , I’m the big hair guy lmao
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it's great to look back :thumbup_smilie: great picture fred
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Water is 80* at Lake Ontario out to like 70’ if any fish hit river will turn belly up in short order , I’ve caught them as early as Aug 7 in past years , this was from 1978 , I’m the big hair guy lmao
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That you...Tumbleweed??😁
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Yo Fred is there a joint or two tucked in the Fro somewhere
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Yo Fred is there a joint or two tucked in the Fro somewhere
Lol 😜
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Lol 😜
You didn't answer the question Fred.
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You didn't answer the question Fred.
;)
None in there , besides how in the world could 1 be recovered in that mop 😃
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HEY WAIT A MINUTE .....my hair still looks like that :w00t:
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That sure was some crew back then!!
My father worked the weir for DEC back then and he recalled the wafting odor of sweet herbs!!
SeanP
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That sure was some crew back then!!
My father worked the weir for DEC back then and he recalled the wafting odor of sweet herbs!!
SeanP
I’m sure it was from the fall burning of leaves 😜
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we use to burn alot of leafs in the fall :D
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Leaves, buds,.......same thing right?? LOL
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We are chartering out of Oswego next Sunday morning. How has the salmon bite been? Are they starting to stack up out in front of the oswego or salmon rivers? I have read and experienced great fishing in the past couple of years. Is it another strong productive season?
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Guys are catching some fish , bite has been slow for many , temp where my buds were was 74.5 , so it’s dropping , fishing can change from day to day , hope your day is successful
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Im not on FB but i have heard snagg has been cleaning a few this past week...
Let the circus begin........... 8)
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River was down yesterday , isn’t a circus yet 🎪
Maybe I’ll get out and take some pics
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IS THERE ANY SALMON IN THE RIVER YET?😁
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I wouldn’t call this much of a circus , more like a large birthday party 😃 pics from Altmar , Ellis cove , trussle pool , pineville, 2A , town pool , little black hole and staircase
I spotted 3 kings off the bridge in town ,
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Nice pictures Fred. Sure looks low and clear..
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Yes it certainly is some rain wouldn’t hurt
It won’t belong and game on
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i'm going salmon fishing thismorning with small jigs wax worms and bobbers around a marina i know ....but if i catch bluegills or crappies i'll kepp them too.... :D
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Good luck Trapp maybe this week I’ll come over and dunk some colored hooks , I could use some perch I’m out and I can’t believe it usually my stock lasts till nov 😡
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Nice pics Freddie! Only need a little water flow for the black sponge bloom to begin. And, for Trapper to troll down the river, of course!!😂
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KP there is a little story behind release spotting those kings , 😇 I think a couple man cards got wrinkled
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I’m sure it will be a good story!😁 taking a ride up to the reservoir today. See what the water levels are like.
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Nice pics Freddie! Only need a little water flow for the black sponge bloom to begin. And, for Trapper to troll down the river, of course!!😂
KP i know freddie and i could teach you the art of making king salmon actively feed in the river and with a littlt proper timing all fish will be hooked in the mouth ;D
we don't snag! we entice
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KP i know freddie and i could teach you the art of making king salmon actively feed in the river and with a littlt proper timing all fish will be hooked in the mouth ;D
we don't snag! we entice
You two trying to show me how salmon “bite” in the river?? 🙄😂
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I fished a few years ago right next to you on a little private acess,on the salmon river did you see any fish that were fouled ???
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I fished a few years ago right next to you on a little private acess,on the salmon river did you see any fish that were fouled ???
No sir!
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That was a fun day by the way!! 😎🎣
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That was a fun day by the way!! 😎🎣
And you chased off that ding bat 😃
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And you chased off that ding bat 😃
Lol! Apparently, I was standing in “his” run. And, the fish were stacked up beneath me. I told him that he better start catching the fish that are passing by and don’t worry about me. I didn’t want him to leave. It was his call.😁
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if people get close to you now just start coughing and ask how many asprin you should take to lower your fever ....
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if people get close to you now just start coughing and ask how many asprin you should take to lower your fever ....
😂
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or do a sully and wack em with a bucket :rotflol:
that is a classic lol
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Just thought I would pass along the information that the Lower Fly Zone on the Salmon River is closed until October 31st. -Paul
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Thanks Paul
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Paul, this is COVID related?
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From the DEC weekly fishing hotline:
"Due to the current low water level, and to ensure enough salmon make it to the hatchery for egg collection, The Lower Fly Section that was scheduled to open on September 15th will remain closed until further notice."
https://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/9218.html (https://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/9218.html)
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Thanks UglyStick.
It's definitely been a dry summer in CNY and looking like not to change any time soon.
Total opposite from last year.
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Loads of salmon in the estuary
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Just drove by there; loads of boats, for sure. Will look again this evening.
It would be nice to see some real numbers of fish in the river -Paul
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Last evenings catch with the goon , saw others with fish on
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I’ll ask a stupid question.
What do you do with them?
Rg
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Not a stupid question at all
Give them away or smoke , save some eggs for steelhead fishing , And give them away or smoke , it’s all about the fight
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Just got back from the bridge. I've been checking every day this month. Definitely the most I've seen so far. But, compared to other years at this time , not a lot. Hopefully it will build from here!
I agree, it's all about the fight! -Paul
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Fair enough. Have fun everyone.
Nice fish Fred!
Rg
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they are the best eatting fish ever!!!!! good job freddie and goon ...... i guess they were hittingeverything you 2 were tossing to them! fish on gentleman :thumbup_smilie: and all i got was this stupid half bucket of perch
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Got out again , missed the early bite , had 3 strikes but didn’t boat any , it was a fishing evening 😃
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missed 3 strikes???? lift the rod harder :rotflol: brutalize them sonof a guns ole boy !!!! have fun maybe i'll meet ya up there .....
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I’m getting ready for some edible fish 😉
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i might be taking a trip out on a wall see if the perch are hungry let you know
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i might be taking a trip out on a wall see if the perch are hungry let you know
👍🎣
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Who said “Perch”?😁
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KP we'll let you in no worries
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KP we'll let you in no worries
Thanks bud!!😎
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KP I’m sure he will 😜
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Spent the morning just below the staircase. Did not see even 1 Salmon caught. Had 3 go by me between sunup and 11:00.
Lots of boats near shore on the lake last evening. Hopefully soon.....-Paul
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If there was some water release there would be lots of fish
Stopped at the bridge in town and Watched a 1/2 dozen , bet they will make a break for it this evening after having all that stuff being ripped by them 😜
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I'm hearing that they're starting to stage in big numbers outside the rivers and in the estuary. I'll be up first thing Thursday morning. I'm hoping the little bit of rain forecasted for next week finally gets them moving. See you guys out there 8)
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Lots of fish in the estuary , rain forecast looks at this point to be 4 days next week we shall see , oswego River is producing some salmon
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I'm getting the itch too. I got a few new rods that are waiting to get some use. Estate sale of a rod maker (3 rods for $100 :o ended up w 9 and 3 reels for a total of $375) Might make a run this weekend if I can convince anyone else to make the 4 hour trip.
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Drove over the river on 81 Wednesday.
Lot of guys in the water fishing on both sides of the bridge.
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;D Yup, lot's of guys fishing all this month. The catching has been a little thin, though. A bit better the last 3 days. Really tough for these fish to migrate in this low water. -Paul
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Alright now I'm getting excited. Still saying over an inch of rain. That should really get a big push of fish in the rivers
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LOL! Have you seen the upper reservoir? It's down 14 FEET! Trout and Orwell are almost dry.
Anything less than 5" of rain won't make much difference. An inch of rain MIGHT raise the gauge at Pineville to 275, for a day.
The fish are coming. They have been since the middle of last week. They don't have a choice. Just not many of them are going to get to the Hatchery. Hopefully, enough do. We had a low water year like this, I believe in 2012. I watched them spawning in the flats below the Staircase in October. - Paul
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Things sure are dry and the river is lined with fisherman , oswego is another spot that some are being hooked ,, if all the fisherman would step back to shore the water would drop another 3” 😉
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Just checked the Wx forecast and no real rain to be seen in the next 10 days. Just 20-50% chance of showers here and there.
Bad timing for a drought... :'(
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1 of the guides told me there was a push of fish yesterday not great but better than it has been ,
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Had to hit tractor supply , noticed this rain bow , just as I was going into the store it was a double but by the time I got my phone out it vanished, got just a touch of it in the right hand corner
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Forgot to post this makes me wonder what some people are thinking
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Was up Saturday mid river. A few pods of fish came though, some action. Water lower than I have ever seen. Plenty of people and with the low water, standing in the middle of runs.
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What will 10' waves pounding the east shore do for the run? Bet you'll be able to pick salmon up off the beach later today and tomorrow if the gale force winds predicted actually hit.
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some big ones being caught , 😉
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:rotflol: :clapping: :thumbup_smilie:
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Caught my personal best Brown on 9/30! Released to pass on his genes to the next generation. 20" From the butt to the top of the fore grip, so just shy of 30". :D
Fished the month of September. This King was my best of the trip.
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Great brown Paul
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Anyone been hitting the river? I'm heading up Friday night for a long weekend. Sad to see a fishing trip that had upwards of 12 guys going at one point down to 3. Sadly not even covid related, just life getting in the way.
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Try this web site:
www.onthewater.com/
They actually have real current fishing reports!!!!
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Try this web site:
www.onthewater.com/
They actually have real current fishing reports!!!!
I'm a little skeptical of their reports. They are always about a week behind and from people that have some money involved. The low water is concerning but I guess the only way to really find out is get the waders wet.
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Bring your steelhead gear. ;)
Some cohos left but not much...
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Bring your steelhead gear. ;)
Some cohos left but not much...
Thats the plan! Thanks for the reply. It will be a nice change of pace fishing in 60 degree weather versus the 30 degrees and blowing. Not exactly steelhead weather but I'll take it.
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There are some fresh kings around , that came from 1 of the guides I talked to yesterday
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Any perch in the river??🤔
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Any perch in the river??🤔
Could be down river it hasn’t been checked yet
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So sad , prayers out to family and friends
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Goon boy was at the seen and assisted
In the recovery , what the article doesn’t say , no belt on waders or cleats on his boots , plus water temp is around 39* and with the present water flow wading and crossing can be very difficult
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Yeah saw it on the news.
Thats to bad.
Surprised no one was close enough to help him..
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That is sad news.
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People saw it but he got swept away , a drift boat guide saw him go in but couldn’t catch up with him in time , they tried to resuscitate but was to late EMTs also tried shocking him ,
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So sad :'( :'( RIP
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I would think some fish are in the river after last nights rain. Anyone been out after them?
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I would think some fish are in the river after last nights rain. Anyone been out after them?
Ya think?? 🤣 It’s EPIC 😎😎✌️✌️
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Been fish in the river
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OMG FISH IN THE RIVER ...........LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO.......
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OMG FISH IN THE RIVER ...........LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO.......
Yup, Shane has been cleaning for a few weeks now.
Go get your groove on Trap.
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I prefer catching salmon when they hit crankbaits in the river!!😁
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I been wanting to go try and jig for salmon.... looks like an assload of fun
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Casting a spoon or crank in the estuary ithe strikes are awesome ,
Landing them on an 8wt fly rod is also fun
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Yeah Shane told me he’s been cleaning for few weeks. I figured the heat this week didn’t have many fish shooting up the river. Just asking if some new ones shot up after the rain yesterday.
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Yeah Shane told me he’s been cleaning for few weeks. I figured the heat this week didn’t have many fish shooting up the river. Just asking if some new ones shot up after the rain yesterday.
Tis the season!
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Tis the season!
They call it the season of insanity...
Salmon/steelhead run..
Goose hunting
Deer hunting
Best walleye bite of the year
Where oh where to spend your time
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lot of fish in the rivers
i'd say deer ducks perch
and 1 2 3 lift 1 2 3 lift..............
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Black Sponge bloom is upon us!! Go gettum guys!!!😁
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A little walleye I caught on a pink worm last week at the salmon River.
27 1/2", 17" girth, 9.28 lbs.
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I saw a photo of you with this eye over on FB - Shane posted it.
Sweet catch for sure.
At first, I was surprised to see a walleye come out of the Salmon River.
But then I got thinking about how many walleyes and bass are in the lake up there.
So why wouldn't they be running up and in the river with the T&S.
Do you know how frequent they are caught?
I really miss the winter steelhead fishing there and in the lower river with my son Jeff.
We always stayed at Shane's place.
"God's Country" up there.
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That is a tank eye
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Black Sponge bloom is upon us!! Go gettum guys!!!😁
😃
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I saw a photo of you with this eye over on FB - Shane posted it.
Sweet catch for sure.
At first, I was surprised to see a walleye come out of the Salmon River.
But then I got thinking about how many walleyes and bass are in the lake up there.
So why wouldn't they be running up and in the river with the T&S.
Do you know how frequent they are caught?
I really miss the winter steelhead fishing there and in the lower river with my son Jeff.
We always stayed at Shane's place.
"God's Country" up there.
Shane said in 46 years he has never caught one up there. I have only heard of one other that far up the river. And that was a few years back.
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Ive fished the river before there were pacific salmon , I caught 1 eye ages ago , near the mouth of the Salmon River , but never heard of 1 being caught up river
Nice eye KC
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Shane said in 46 years he has never caught one up there. I have only heard of one other that far up the river. And that was a few years back.
Wow.
How far upriver was it?
Where did you catch it?
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Schoolhouse pool
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I talked to 1 of the river guides today and over the years he had caught 2 eyes up river
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Schoolhouse pool
Yup
Up there
Cool
Thanks!