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MyFishFinder By Species => Bluegill => Topic started by: TroutFishingBear on Mar 27, 2004, 07:27 PM
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3 1/2 lbs, 14" for me
what about you?
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pic?
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pic?
I didn't take pictures but I can easily get a lot more around 3 lbs this summer and then take pictures. They break the state record but you can't keep them in this lake. Everyone breaks the state record when they go here every time.
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My biggest was 12". Didnt weigh it but my geuss is 1 1/2 lbs. That thing was fun to fight on a little rod.
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This was the only fish I caught that day and it was the first time I was on the lake. Scott caught one that was just a smidge smaller, but his was prettier. :P
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I went out with a buddy a few years back on Easter afternoon. It was starting to rain and we were catching a bunch of big crappies and bluegills, I pulled one in the boat 12 1/4". Ill put a picture on when I get home from college.
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Will have to measure some this year. Have caught some good ones, but never recorded the details.
-Reelcharacter
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id say 11" i know a catch alot that are 10"
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I've caught quite a few giant gills in my day thanks to an amazing secret lake in Colorado. The SOBS average over pound here, and I have gotten several over three. I will get around to posting a pic soon.
Tyler
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real nice pumkinseed there.sbfpa- mike!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks BigDave, I am really envious of these guys catching 12'ers and over. The pictured fish is the biggest I have ever caught; oh well, so goes the hunt for bigger fish> :)
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real nice pumkinseed there.sbfpa- mike!!!!!!!!!!!!!
whats a pumpkin seed? we always call them "bluegills" here
just curious... is it a nickname or a different breed or what?
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i came over from iceshanty.com (http://iceshanty.com) and i would like to post a picture of a pair of blue gills, but i can't see how to post a pix with my message. can anyone help.
thanks,
john
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sbfpa_Mike
can you tell me how to post a pix in my post? also into my profile, it seems to be different than on iceshanty.com (http://iceshanty.com)
thanks,
john
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John,
If you go to the "Help Faqs" board, there is posting instructions there. The instructions are the bold type RG PICTURE POSTING INSTRUCTIONS AT THE BOTTOM OF Scott's rules post. IM me if you are still having trouble.
Mike
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3 1/2 lbs, 14" for me
what about you?
i would love to catch a blue that big,i would have had the thing mounted. the next time please post a pic with the name of the lake you cuaght it in for i can go get me one.bill
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Troutfishingbear,
There are at least five different strains of Sunfish, including Bass!! :D
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Troutfishingbear,
There are at least five different strains of Sunfish, including Bass!! :D
I went on sunday to my fav. lake for gills and caught 1 bluegill, about 2 1/4 lbs, and 9 largemouth bass. I got a pic. of the bluegill, and i will get it developed and hopefully be able to scan it on the computer so you can all see it. Funny thing, t hough, I will be sticking my tongue out in the picture because my dad said I wasn't going to catch anything!!!
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whats a pumpkin seed? we always call them "bluegills" here
Here is a link to the New York State DEC webpage. It discusses the differences, with illustrations, between the various Sunfish. http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/dfwmr/fish/fishspecs/sunfitxt.html
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Did you not see the 2 1/4 pounder that I posted? That IS a state record in colorado. (weighed on dig. scale)
I have only fished there about 5 times this year, and have caught 5 others that were in the 2 1/4 lb. to 2 1/2 lb. range. I haven't brought the camera the other times because I thought one big one my first time would be proof enough for you. Apparently not. all I know is it is bigger than your biggest in that pic. by a long shot.
Mostly, though i have been catching some big bass up there this year. Haven't really been focusing on the gills as much. I'll get you one more, but I still haven't had my pics. from 2 months ago developed with some smallmouth and other trout. (no dig. camera)
You see, slipbob, unlike you I don't find it necessary to take a picture of every fish I catch, and I usually can't because I am either without a camera in my group or by myself.
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Looking back the pic. of the one I posted was from may second and it was only 1 3/4 lbs. Hmm. I know I got a bigger one this year that was 2 1/4 and thought I posted it. I will have to look through my pics.
I still have many more pics to develop ole' slippy, so don't worry.
Have gotten 1 gill this year that got the old digital scale to 3.1 lbs. 13 1/2 " fish. I might have a picture coming of this one, I don't know. I still have several hundred pics. to develop and I might not get it done for a while because of school obligations.
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Hey if this is true :o Once the ice sets I am on my way with auger, bucket and pole TFB! hmmm, Should I beef up my 2lb test?
-Scott
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here in ny , a 1 lb. gill is a trophy fish. the growing season here is alot shorter then southern waters. im still looking after 40 yrs of fishing for my 1st 12 in gill, lol. tight lines, big dave out
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I'm not in it for the record slipbob but I could get it today if I wanted to. It's to much of a pain, for example I know of many anglers who have caught rainbows in the 20 lb. range, but not gone for the record. Why? because it's just a pain.
I have also fished the state record holding lake, but not caught one above 1 1/2 lbs there, the cdow kind of ruined it.
And it wouldn't be much of an accomplishment from my lake anyway. Too many people could do it, nearly everyone anytime if they just could avoid the weeds and use the right tackle. The lake is that good
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I know hundreds of people who have broke that record. Eric, you could break it if you fished weedless and small at jerry creek. 2 lbs. 4 oz. is the "record" but I'd say the real record is probably around 3 3/4 lbs. Seen a few gills that are about 15-16" in that lake
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:o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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I know hundreds of people who have broke that record. Eric, you could break it if you fished weedless and small at jerry creek. 2 lbs. 4 oz. is the "record" but I'd say the real record is probably around 3 3/4 lbs. Seen a few gills that are about 15-16" in that lake
I'm not dogging you but let me know when you want to go cause it definitely won't be a hassle for me to report that trophy.
me and you will go sometime and you will see. rude skeptics like slipbob just don't understand.
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I know hundreds of people who have broke that record. Eric, you could break it if you fished weedless and small at jerry creek. 2 lbs. 4 oz. is the "record" but I'd say the real record is probably around 3 3/4 lbs. Seen a few gills that are about 15-16" in that lake
especially when hundreds of people are breaking the state record by over a pound and out of all those people noboby claims it. I know we have some others on the site from Colorado here and have you ever caught these 3 1/2 lb gills and not turned them in to claim your rightful place as the state record holder.
But you see slipbob, hundreds of people don't fish this lake. There are maybe 15 regulars from our whole valley that fish it, and we don't want the secret out. I told it on this site because there are what, 4-5 members from my area in grand junction?
Raleigh fished the lake just after ice off and caught nothing, but then the fish are deep. (you can only fish this lake in open water and by foot. It would be impossible to get a boat or icefish there anyway since you have to walk)
I know one member on this site that has caught bluegills over 3 lbs. at this lake and many, and that is mackdaddy. Soon when I take eric he will be one of them.
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Im sure slipbob isnt trying to be rude, and im not either, but you have to understand, a 3lb bluegill in the northeast is absolutely unheard of, and you dont have a picture to back it up. You can see why we'd be skeptical. I'm not saying you're lying, I dont think slipbob is either... but its hard for us to believe this lake is swimming with fish that big, something foreign to people in our area, without a picture.
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I understand you tim, but slipbob has attacked me before and I am quite sure of his intent.
When I first heard about the lake, I was a skeptic too. But when I went, I caught about 8 largemouth that were fairly small, 10-13" and thought it wasn't special. Then all of the sudden a bluegill-type hit on my popper and my line started zinging. I finally landed the bluegill, my biggest ever at about 3 1/2 lbs. according to this guy fishing next to me. (his dig. scale said 3.52) He was a regular at the lake and I believe still is. I still remember my eyes when the scale said the weight, and he laughed and said he had fished the lake for 2 years before this, and his biggest was something like 3.6 lbs.
This was 3 years ago, and I have fished this lake since and caught about 50 bluegill over 2 lbs in probably about 50 trips.
The only other lakes that I have caught a bluegill over 2 lbs. 4 oz is harvey gap, and gills are large here to with a fair number of 1 pounders to be caught. Harvey gap also produced approx. a 17 lb. 10 oz largemouth (around that weight) 3 years ago but the guy ate it. it wouldve broken the record in 40 states.
I also know a guy ( a member of this site actually, scchase) that caught a pike out of harvey gap that when he filleted it, he got 4 bags of 5 lb. filets.
Rifle gap also produced a 25 lb. rainbow about 6 years back, but the guy thought it was a laker and ate it.
The colorado and roaring fork rivers have each produced a rainbow over 30lbs. and several over 20 in the last 5 years (all records) but none have been recorded/ turned in.
I also caught the state record green sunfish in connected lakes when I was 8 years old. It was 11 1/2 " in length and weighed 1.90 lbs, and if I hadn't ate it it would still be a record to this day.
So you see slipbob, its not just me, but many, many, many fisherman. You can call me a liar but when you call scchase a liar, mackdaddy a liar, and soon to be raleigh and eric (when I get them on jerry creek gills) liars you will soon figure out that it is your skepticism rather than all of our lying.
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Okay forget cancun, for spring break i am coming to visit you tfb, and bringing my bluegill rod.
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Okay forget cancun, for spring break i am coming to visit you tfb, and bringing my bluegill rod.
;D wouldn't mind a bit ;)
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i dont actually have a bluegill rod, it was a figure of speech. id like to be able to afford different rods for different occasions. d**n college tuition.
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Don't worry I don't have a bluegill rod either. I just use bass lures and streamers and pistol petes for them and catch a lot of them!
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Slipbob, TFB is telling the absolute truth about these bluegills. I would have never believed it till I went there. but it's true. I've probably caught 4 gills in this lake over 3 pounds and scores of 2 pounders. The most ridiculous item here, a 1 pound gill is a "baby" for this lake. It's not fished by many people, so the record is never really reported. It's catch and release as well. A tremendous population of 10 - 15" and larger largemouths keep the amount of small gills in check. The larger bluegills bully the bass out of food.
Colorado has some big gills. But it's not widely known. Most fisherman fish for just trout here.
Tyler
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We will def get together and head out there TFB. Quick question, since it is only C&R, can you take a picture of the fish with a ruler and still get the record or does some park ranger guy have to see and touch it.
There are 2 seperate records in colorado i believe. one is C&R record which gets no recognition, and the other is when the fish is kept which gets the "official"
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Oh yeah I forgot to say I also broke the state record green sunfish again this year at jerry creek this time, where there aren't supposed to be any. But there are a lot. It was about 2 lbs and I caught it on a 4" white senko.
eric, they would do a stable isotope study to determine where it came from and you would receive huge, huge fines and have your fishing privalge revoked.
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FYI, here are the state records across the U.S.
http://www.landbigfish.com/staterecords/fishrecords.cfm?ID=14
Note that the CO record was only 11.5" long and weighed 2 pounds 4 ounces. In Arizona, a 3 pound 5 oz. gill was only 13". The world record was 5 pounds 4 ounces caught in a Birmingham, Alabama farm pond on a red worm. I seem to remember that one being 15" long. So, it's entirely possible.
Hey, I'd like to see a pic TFB when you get one of those lunker gills, not because of whether I believe you or not, but rather because I think it would make for an awesome pic. Also, you should record every measurement that you can so that you can compare to some of the ones in the record books. Since you have to C&R them, you could at least have a fiberglass mount of one some day that you've caught. Also, I'm sure that you can have C&R records so you may qualify for one. Consider it the next time you land one of those brutes.
Maryland's record is 3.5 pounds...man, that is huge in my mind, and it's a lake that I ice fish. Wow, can you imagine that? I'll be out there again this winter. I had a lot of fun out there.
Here's another thing to consider, perhaps these are a different strain, bred for size like these (jeez, check out these jumbos):
http://www.kens-fishfarm.com/world-records/Default.asp
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I have 2 pics of big gills from yesterday that when they are developed I will post them
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Hey, I'd like to see a pic TFB when you get one of those lunker gills, not because of whether I believe you or not, but rather because I think it would make for an awesome pic. Also, you should record every measurement that you can so that you can compare to some of the ones in the record books. Since you have to C&R them, you could at least have a fiberglass mount of one some day that you've caught. Also, I'm sure that you can have C&R records so you may qualify for one. Consider it the next time you land one of those brutes.
Here's another thing to consider, perhaps these are a different strain, bred for size like these (jeez, check out these jumbos):
http://www.kens-fishfarm.com/world-records/Default.asp
I could've got the catch and release record twice yesterday, with 1 gill 12.25" and 2 lbs 9 oz. ( I have a pic. of this one, luckily my brother was in the area to take my photo) The other was a 12.00" 2lbs 5 oz. (I have a pic, but I am not in it as I was alone)
I might just tell the CDOW so I can get the C&R record once the picture developes. Too bad you weren't there to get to see it eric!
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Now that's a big gill FB. What's your biggest Deep Creek gill FB? Does Deep Creek regularly produce the biggies as it was in In Fishermen for best big panfish lakes.
My biggest was about 11" and about a pound. There are lots of these though and I've seen some that look pretty big. I don't think that I could get one much bigger through my 6" holes, LOL! The perch in that lake are big too. It's fast becoming one of my favorite lakes. Check out the pics that FishDeepCreek posts on Iceshanty under the MD threads. You can get an idea of the average size of the panfish there. Pretty cool. I'd have ask him how big his biggest gill is and have him weigh in here on this topic.
TFB, can you ice fish on your big gill lake or is it only open water? I bet you'd have a blast catching them on ice fishing jigging rods!
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Now that's a big gill FB. What's your biggest Deep Creek gill FB? Does Deep Creek regularly produce the biggies as it was in In Fishermen for best big panfish lakes.
TFB, can you ice fish on your big gill lake or is it only open water? I bet you'd have a blast catching them on ice fishing jigging rods!
It's only open water because ute water, who owns the reservoirs (there are 2 of them) is stupid and thinks that the water would get contaminated. That's the same way on our other city reservoirs too, and one of them we used to catch 3 lb. smallies through the ice and plenty of walleye. I never got one up above about 25" but my brother caught a 10 lber and a 7 lber on consecutive drops on jigging raps. I wish our city would listen to the people and not have their own agenda. We do not, in a city of 110,000, even elect our mayor.
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i cant wait to see this over 3 pound bluegill.
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i cant wait to see this over 3 pound bluegill.
genious read I said 2 lb. 9 oz was the latest one I caught, along with a 2 lb. 5 oz. That's pretty good for one trip, is it not? I turned in the film today.
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:o Holy Crap!!! Did I see a big gill yesterday!! :o My son and I were visiting some friends and this little old lady I know pulls up and asks if we want to see some fish. Betty, who is about 70 years old, 4'10" and 90lbs. opens her trunk and then her cooler. After pushing aside several nice bass and 12-14" perch she pulls out this bluegill and my jaw dropped! I measured it at 12" long, 7 7/8" deep and over 2" thick! I wish I had a scale to weigh it on because it was big. I had just used up the film in my camera taking some pictures of turkeys so I asked her to please get a picture before she filleted it. If she does I will post it.
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Now for those 3.5lbers in Colorado that TFB catches all the time that fish would be approximately 16". I was shocked by my 11" bluegill I caught in May this year and that was the biggest gill I have ever seen in almost 30 years of fishing so a 12" would be huge to me and most anybody else around these parts. I would love to see a pic of that not to mention a legit 3.5lber that would be 16". :o
Do I say I catch 3.5 lbers "all the time" No. Enough slander man. I have caught 2 this year that broke the magical 3 lb. mark and they were 14" and 14.25"
A 12" bluegill can be anywhere in the neigborhood of 1lb4oz to almost twice that weight. :o It all depends on how deep it is. Now the 2 lb. 9oz fish I will post was 12.5" but it was extremely deep.
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That's a freakin monster jw. You just don't see 12" bluegills unless you are lookin at state record categories. The current Pa state record gill is 2lbs 9oz and the New York record is 2lbs 8oz so a 12" gill is pretty big. Using weight estimation formulas for that fish which would be length x length x length divided by 1200 that fish would be approximately 1.44lbs and that's pretty big. I guess to get to 2lbs 8oz you need a bluegill that measures approximately 15". Can you imagine that a 15" bluegill. Wow. Now for those 3.5lbers in Colorado that TFB catches all the time that fish would be approximately 16". I was shocked by my 11" bluegill I caught in May this year and that was the biggest gill I have ever seen in almost 30 years of fishing so a 12" would be huge to me and most anybody else around these parts. I would love to see a pic of that not to mention a legit 3.5lber that would be 16". :o
It was HUGE and the best part was it was caught by a little old lady. ;D ::) I'll see her again on Sat. and see if she took a pic. I caught about a dozen in the 10"+ range this spring and thought they were huge, her fish made mine look like bait! Well, musky bait anyway. :whistling:
Do I say I catch 3.5 lbers "all the time" No. Enough slander man. I have caught 2 this year that broke the magical 3 lb. mark and they were 14" and 14.25"
TFB, getting a little wound up aren't you ??? :nono:. With out a pic and a tape beside it that is hard for most to believe. I'm not calling you a liar, just post a pic and end all the questions.
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Slipbob, I did some research earlier on lengths of some of the state records and posted them in this thread earlier. I think it's the girth that is the deciding factor. I've quoted myself (seems weird :o) but this may shed some light:
FYI, here are the state records across the U.S.
http://www.landbigfish.com/staterecords/fishrecords.cfm?ID=14
Note that the CO record was only 11.5" long and weighed 2 pounds 4 ounces. In Arizona, a 3 pound 5 oz. gill was only 13". The world record was 5 pounds 4 ounces caught in a Birmingham, Alabama farm pond on a red worm. I seem to remember that one being 15" long. So, it's entirely possible.
So, these are all huge bluegills though. Point being that if we do catch a gill that is 12" or larger and has that frying pan shape to it, we should probably weigh them because they just could be a record in your state. IMO, TFB could very well be telling the truth and pics should confirm. Even if he shows us a pic of a gill in the 12 to 13" range, look at the depth of the fish. Those big ones would look real deformed. And, I don't know if y'all have read the past banter on the bass threads, but ol' TFB and I have been know to disagree often! So, it ain't like I'm buddying up to him!!! Right TFB? ;D
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TFB is telling the truth. He has pics of several gills like this. I have caught several over three pounds from the same lake. Once he gets the last pic developed that should end the discussion. The bluegills in this lake, honestly, average about a pound and a half.
Tyler
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Now lets not get into too much bickering here. I can understand the skepticism slipbob and others have. I didn't think they were that big till I started to fish there. But when the first gill I caught slammed a #5 shad rap for bass, I was hooked. This gill was about 14" long and weighed three pounds and 11 ounces, so close to four pounds. The gills in this lake average probably about 10", with 12 inchers common. I have never, ever seen a fishery like this.
Everywhere else, a 10" bluegill is a bigtime bull. But ten inchers are a dime a dozen here.
I can understand the skepticism. From now on, I will carry a camera and a ruler at all times fishing here. Then I will show you the pics. Then there will no longer be any skepticism.
Tyler
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Sounds good Tyler, I love to see some pics of these gills you speak of after seeing that 12" fish the other day.
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I can understand the skepticism. From now on, I will carry a camera and a ruler at all times fishing here. Then I will show you the pics. Then there will no longer be any skepticism.
Tyler
Would've helped if you would have caught some last time like me :P jk tyler, but now I've showed you where to fish/ what to use there for the gills.
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I didn't take pictures but I can easily get a lot more around 3 lbs this summer and then take pictures. They break the state record but you can't keep them in this lake. Everyone breaks the state record when they go here every time.
Okay TFB or should I say BFB(bluegill fishing bear). Where's the goods on the easy 3lbers? I was being a nice guy and giving you all summer to produce photos of the state record gill and summer's almost over and still no pics ??? LOL!! ;D Your only excuse is that you have not fished the lake all summer because if you had you most certainly would have caught one. Everybody catches the state record everytime they fish there. ??? Anyway just busting chops but let's not let the summer go by and still have this bluegill taking the honors for the biggest. It's a measly 11 inches and probably only weighed a pound or so.
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I got that one beat easy even with this old fish slipbob
This is the only pic. I could find from one I caught in may. It is posted on this site somewhere else, but I forget where. I have more pics coming of bigger gills but this one is the biggest anyone here has caught for the year.
I apologize in advance for the scanbed showing up, but I don't want to go through all my pics and start over the whole process.
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I have 2 different pics of bigger gills coming. This is just a smaller preview. enjoy
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This first one is a state record. Just for perspective, that's a 5" green senko in his mouth
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This second one is also a state record. Caught on a 5" white senko
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Enjoy!
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i am now a believer
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Wish you could all come and catch some! They are a blast. I can't describe the site when you first see one of those out in the water, it is what fishing is all about.
There have gotta be other lakes like this one out there. Just put in your time and when you catch one of these puppies remember to release it fairly quickly no matter how much it hurts!
Good luck everyone!
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My biggest gill is 11 inches, but i have caught many that were close to it. Heres my saying on big gills...Farm Ponds will grow big gills, and there pretty easy to catch there in my opinion. I fish a few were gills would smack texas rigged bas baits. My home lake is an impoundment in Maryland, just under 4000 acres. Gills there, as well as other panfish (yellow perch especially) grow large due to a high number of predatory fish, which keeps the population in check, and helps control stunted growth. While the numbers arent high like a farm pond, the quailty is good. Many 12 inches are caught in Deep Creek Lake, which is a huge gill in any part of the country. Our state record is only 13 inches but weight a whopping 3 lbs, and 7 ounces.Here is the pic of the state record, caught by Sarah Brenneman in 1998.
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Fishdeepcreek,
Now THAT my friend is what a 3lb+ bluegill would look like...WOW!
RG
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I have caught three gills that size the girl has at Jerry Creek. The bluegills attack texas rigged bass baits, spinnerbaits, 3 inch poppers, and bass crankbaits. Most of the gills at Jerry Creek run about a pound and a half. Two pounders are fairly common. Three pounders are a reasonable shot in a summer of fishing. The three three pound plus ones I have caught there were the size of hubcaps.
Every gill from now on I'm going to photograph, next to a ruler. I know TFB is telling the truth about three pound gills, slipbob. I have seen them with my own eyes. I have seen rogue schools of 2 - 4 pounders. No joke. You would never believe it till you saw the lake.
Tyler
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That gill looks especially big because it was caught by a little girl. That is an amazing gill though, no doubt about it. If I held a gill up that big it wouldn't look a heck of a lot bigger than one of the ones I was holding (somewhat fatter, a 1/2" longer if that are the true dimensions) because I am so wide across the chest. Fish always look bigger when little people catch them because of that. It's perspective
I wonder what the world record looks like? I think it is 4 lbs. 10 oz.
Funnily enough I used to think the world record was only like 3 lbs and that I had broke it a fair amount of times. Now that I know my records I know thats false and I haven't broken it. But Colorado's state record is good enough for me.
( I mailed it in today for the catch and release state record)
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I found a pic, of an 11 incher Gill', looking back in my photos there were more 11 inchers than I thought. I cant recall what my biggest gill is now (ive hooked a bunch of porko gillsin my time, Ive lost track!) This one was caught in 2002. It is a male bluegill, with some pretty coloration. Just to note, notice the gap in between my hands. Also i have big hands (im 6 2 in height!). I measured him b4 I released it. Caught him one of my jigs I make, under a boat dock. There always fun to catch no matter what the size is in my opinion. I especially like to catch em during ice season, you can always tell when its a gill by that circle swimming in the ice hole.
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That is one awesome gill. ;D
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Good idea Mackdaddy, next time you guys catch them, put them up against a tape and/or scale. That would also help you if or when you submit them to the state for a new C&R record. You should go for it.
By the way, from the pic that FDC shows, that 3 pound 7 ounce gill looks to be about 9" or 10" tall or so. I wonder what the girth was? Anyone know a good formula for estimating the weights of bluegills?
FDC, wow, that fish is immense! We gotta git one o' them this winter thru the ice, LOL!
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I got him today YEAAAAAAA. 11 3/4 inches 12 1/2 inches in circumferance. I didnt have scales so i guesstimated him at 1 3/4 lbs
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Whoooaa! :o Bobberstop that is a monster gill!!! :o 11 3/4" with a spawned off tail to boot! Nice one! :thumbup_smilie:
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:o Holy Crap!!! Did I see a big gill yesterday!! :o My son and I were visiting some friends and this little old lady I know pulls up and asks if we want to see some fish. Betty, who is about 70 years old, 4'10" and 90lbs. opens her trunk and then her cooler. After pushing aside several nice bass and 12-14" perch she pulls out this bluegill and my jaw dropped! I measured it at 12" long, 7 7/8" deep and over 2" thick! I wish I had a scale to weigh it on because it was big. I had just used up the film in my camera taking some pictures of turkeys so I asked her to please get a picture before she filleted it. If she does I will post it.
Unfortunately, she didn't take a pic before she filleted and ate that monster. I gave her heck and asked her to take a pic if she catches any more monsters like that from the pond that she won't tell me the location of. ::) Maybe a few pounds of walleye fillets will convince her to spill the beans. ;) Or at least let me tag along, blindfolded of course. ;D
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That is a big bull. What did you catch it on? That would be about an average gill at Jerry Creek reservoir.
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I caught it on a baby nitecrawler 5 ft. down in 20 ft. of water.
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That fish is technically not a Bluegill, it appears to be a Redear Sunfish.. AKA shellcracker, but is a dandy fishnone the less! I bet it put up a tussle! Bluegills have a solid back dot on the gill plate cover, the one in your pic has the added red spot to the side. Shellcracker are some of the biggest sunfish, that one shows it!
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Hmm. I'm not sure about the redear sunfish thing. That does look like a very strange bluegill though. I know we have no redear sunfish here in colorado, though.
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Its definitly a bluegill cause we dont have shellcrackers in indiana
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Actually, Indiana does have them, take alook at Indianas Department Of Natural resources pages, under fish Idenfication :
http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/fish/fishng/fhident.htm
Red Ears are prettywide spread throughout the USA, including the Midwest, and Western USA. A Bluegill has a solid black dot , on the gill plate (called opercle). A redear has a red dot on the edge,usally with white with it too. A pumkinseed also has this, but has wavy lines on its cheek. Green Sunfish has these too, but there easy to tell because they have a mouth that resembles a bass, and are greenish with vibrant blue waves on the face.
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FishDeepCreek makes a convincing case. I agree with him in the fact that it is a redear sunfish. But it still is a nice fish.
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Here's some info and pics for clarification. Source: Field and Stream "Fish of the Week"
redear:
http://www.fieldandstream.com/fieldstream/fishing/article/0,13199,216687,00.html
bluegill: http://www.fieldandstream.com/fieldstream/fishing/article/0,13199,456217,00.html
REDEAR SUNFISH -- Lepomis microlophus
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Other names: shellcracker, stumpknocker, yellow bream, bream.
The redear sunfish is a popular sport fish because it fights hard on light tackle, reaches a relatively large size for a sunfish, and can be caught in large numbers. Like other members of the Centrarchidae family of sunfish, it is an excellent panfish, with white, flaky meat.
Identification. Light golden-green above, the redear sunfish is roundish and laterally compressed; adults have dusky gray spots on the side, whereas juveniles have bars. It is white to yellow on the belly, with mostly clear fins, and the breeding male is brassy gold with dusky pelvic fins. The redear sunfish has a fairly pointed snout and a small mouth, with blunted molaform teeth that make shell cracking possible. It has connected dorsal fins and long, pointed pectoral fins that extend far beyond the eye when bent forward; the latter distinguish it from both the longear and redbreast sunfish, which have short, roundish pectoral fins. The ear flap is also much shorter than in the other two species and is black, with a bright red or orange spot or a light margin at the edge.
It can also be distinguished from the pumpkinseed sunfish by its gill-cover flap, which is relatively flexible and can be bent at least to right angles, whereas the flap on the pumpkinseed is rigid. The redear sunfish is somewhat less compressed than the bluegill, which contrasts with the redear sunfish by having an entirely black ear flap without any spot or light edge.
Size/Age. The redear sunfish can become rather large, reaching weights over 4 1/2 pounds, though it averages under half a pound and about 9 inches. The all-tackle world record is a 5-pound 3-ounce fish taken in California in 1994. It can live up to 8 years.
Distribution. Native to North America, redear sunfish are found from about the Savannah River in South Carolina to the Nueces River in Texas north toward the Mississippi River basin to southern Indiana and Illinois, with some populations in western states. They have been introduced to waters in Africa and Latin America.
Habitat. Redear sunfish inhabit ponds, swamps, lakes, and vegetated pools of small to medium rivers; they prefer warm, clear, and quiet waters.
Spawning. Some redear sunfish are able to spawn when they are only 5 inches long and 1 year old, though most do so after they are 2 or older. Spawning occurs when waters reach 70 degrees, which may be as early as March in Florida, and extends through early fall. Males build and guard shallow circular nests, which hold tens of thousands of eggs; nests are often built in colonies near vegetation, in water of 2- to 8-foot depths.
Food. Opportunistic bottom feeders, redear sunfish forage mostly during the day on aquatic snails, which gives them their common name "shellcracker." They also feed on midge larvae, amphipods, mayfly and dragonfly nymphs, clams, fish eggs, and crayfish.
Angling. Redear sunfish are taken with standard panfishing methods.
Bluegill:
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BLUEGILL Lepomis macrochirus.
Other names: bream, brim, sun perch, blue perch, blue sunfish, copperbelly, blue bream, copperhead bream, red-breasted bream, bluegill sunfish, roach.
At times easily caught by novice and experienced anglers alike, bluegills are one of the most popular panfish species in North America because of their vast distribution, spunky fight, and excellent eating. Commonly referred to as "bream," bluegills are the most widely distributed panfish, and are found with, or in similar places as, such companion and related species as the redbreasted sunfish, green sunfish, pumpkinseed, shellcracker, and longeared sunfish, all of which are similar in configuration but different in appearance.
Despite their abundance and popularity, bluegills are not heavily targeted in some waters, and thus are underutilized. Bluegills are so prolific that their populations can grow beyond the carrying capacity of the water, and as a result many become stunted; these stunted fish are regarded as pests and waters containing them often need to be drained and restocked. There are three subspecies of bluegill in existence, though stocking has mixed populations and subspecies.
Identification. The bluegill has a significantly compressed, oval-shaped or roundish body, a small mouth, and a small head, qualities which are typical of members of the sunfish family. The pectoral fins are pointed.
Its coloring varies greatly from lake to lake, ranging from olive, dark blue, or bluish-purple to dappled yellow and green on the sides, with an overall blue cast; some fish, particularly those found in quarry holes, may actually be clear and colorless. There are 6 to 8 vertical bars ordinarily on the sides, which may or may not be prominent. The gill cover extends to create a wide black flap, faint in color on the young, which is not surrounded by a lighter border as in other sunfishes. Dark blue streaks are found on the lower cheeks between the chin and gill covers, and often there is a dark mark at the bottom of the anal fin. The breeding male is more vividly colored with a blue head and back, bright orange breast and belly, and black pelvic fins.
Size/Age. The size ranges from 4 to 12 inches in length, averaging 8 inches and reaching a maximum length of 16 1/4 inches. Bluegills are estimated to live for 10 years. The largest bluegill ever caught was a 4-pound 12-ounce specimen taken in 1950. The growth of the bluegill varies so much that size and age are difficult to relate.
Distribution. Native to approximately the eastern half of the United States, the bluegill’s range extends southward from the St. Lawrence River through the Great Lakes and the Mississippi River basin, eastward from New York to Minnesota and draining south from Cape Fear River in Virginia to the Rio Grande in Texas, including states as far east as Florida and as far west as New Mexico. Also found in a small portion of northeastern Mexico, the bluegill has been widely introduced elsewhere in North America as well as into Europe, South Africa, Asia, South America, and Oceania.
Habitat. Although mainly lake fish, bluegills are found in sluggish streams and rivers, vegetated lakes and ponds, swamps, and pools of creeks. They prefer quiet waters and may be found in very shallow water, though during summer when the surface temperature is warm, they may go as deep as 30 or more feet. They are found in the same habitat as their larger relative, the largemouth bass.
Life History/Behavior. The age of sexual maturity varies with environment and locale, though most bluegills reach spawning age at 2 or 3 years old. Spawning takes place between April and September, starting when water temperatures are around 70 degrees F.
The males build shallow, round nests in water up to 6 feet deep over sandy or muddy bottoms. These nests occur in colonies of up to 500 along the shoreline, densely concentrated and easily spotted by anglers. Females may lay anywhere from 2,000 to 63,000 eggs, which hatch 30 to 35 hours after fertilization. It is common for fish to spawn many times, with a particular fish laying eggs in several nests and a single nest containing eggs from more than one female. Males guard the eggs throughout the incubation period and stay once they have hatched to protect the young. At lengths of 1/4- to 1/3-inch long, the young leave the nests for deeper waters. Bluegills travel in small schools, usually being of the same or similar size.
Food and Feeding Habits. A variety of small organisms serve as food for bluegills, including insects, crayfish, fish eggs, small minnows, snails, worms, and sometimes even plant material. The young feed mostly on crustaceans, insects, and worms. They will feed at different depths depending on temperature, with some food obtained on the bottom as well as on the surface. Active mostly at dusk and dawn, the larger bluegills move inshore in the morning and evening to feed, staying in deeper water during the day.
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To start off, I've seen Gills on a tape from Colorado that measure 14 1/2", it was a monster. I fully believe they get that big.
That fish that bobberstop caught is a shellcracker, not a bluegill.
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I am definitely excited to bluegill fish again this year. I can't wait to get a nice one and then tape measure it!
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here is a pic of a monster gill we had alive in one of the tanks when i went to school at cobleskill...it was given to the college by a local fisherman, and when we weighed it, it was only a few ounces off the state record and was also VERY old. When the fish died we took scale samples and it turned out to be 15 years old :blink:
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here is a big gill from a few years back
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WOW bigred, nice gill in that last pic! i have been reading through this topic at school, kind of turned from biggest gill thread to MFF vs. TFB. after reading some of the arguments from mackdaddy and Troutfishingbear, i believe there are big gills in the lake, and i want to see when he proves everyone wrong with one of those huge gills next to a tape measure! Get back the certificate for catch and release record yet TFB?
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The biggest bluegill i've ever caught was a 12 incher From the St. Lawrance river. That was when I was about 8 or 9 years old though.
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! Get back the certificate for catch and release record yet TFB?
No, last time I checked DOW still hasn't updated their site since may 12 or something like that. I have gills in my trout of fame though that prove this, and I will get a tape measure ;D (already had one, but never thought to show it in the pic.)
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heres another biggun!
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Well I will have the tape measure with me at all times, and a paper plate for perspective. If I was to fish for just bluegills, who knows how many 1 - 2 pounders I would pull out of this lake. I might just try tiny tubes under slip bobbers.
Tyler
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I measured the fish TFB is holding, and it was over 12". Its not even a big gill for this lake. About average or even a little below.
Tyler
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well, here's a little somethin I found out of a colorado fishing publication. I have fished the mentioned reservoir, harvey gap reservoir for bluegill, and got many in the 8-10.5" range.
This is from a colorado fishing and hunting news
June 21- July 5 2001 issue, pg. 44
I would scan it up but it didn't work very well and wasn't readable. This is a whole paragraph
"It's not just pike that are drawing anglers to Harvey Gap Reservoir. "People are doing very good on trout and bluegill and bass," says Firmin."It's just a very diverse array of fish coming in, and they're good sized. We had one bluegill landed that was 14 inches long.""
I know it doesn't make it fact but it is still in print in a colorado fishing magizine publication. They would have to be fairly sure of their sources.
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Having read these posts all I can say is sure wish people posting about size and weight would show proof or just quit trying to impress me cause it just doesnt work
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these are from last month on the ice theyre not monsters but one is 11" the other is 10.5 along with a 14" trout all were caught within 10 minutes i had another gill on that i lost at the hole he was about the same size and lost 3 others i didnt see all in 30 min i think it was the senior class for the gills ;)
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Not monsters? Arch, those are freakin huge gills! Is that bottom one a gill or is it like a shellcracker or something? Looks weird.
Is that a HT auger?
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nope those are both gills outta allegany state park and good eyes yes that is a 6" HT
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Nice fish. You like the HT? I have one leaning in the barn right now, I hated it, maybe that was just the one I bought though. I know someone who likes theirs, so I'm looking to you for the tiebreaker.(https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv31%2FPasquatch%2FSmileys%2Fdance.gif&hash=62d1e1ad706952bc97c2e3cd95f3a0a4)
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well i still dont have a tie breaker because i like mine but i talked to 3 others 1 likes his the other 2 got rid of theirs cause they hated them so back to square 1 ???
i personally have never had a problem with mine although the blade does nik easy
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my biggest so far is a 10-/1/2 incher that i released. ive seen a few over 12 inches but very few. it has alot to do with fishing pressure and the shorter growing season up north. to me any gill over 10 inches is a trophy.
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my biggest is probably a 13" out of a private pond. it took a meal worm on the bottom.
gill
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Just got the most jumbo gills ever in an outing yesterday- 6/11. Took 9 in the 8 to 11 inch range- (the 11 was my biggest ever) in Quaker lake. Never hit alot of jumbo gills in my home turf of niagara county. It was a great outing- Sorry, no pics though
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i caught a 10.25 inch bluegill, released so i could have a michigan master angler patch. I dont think it would have made the kept master angler, because that goes by weight.
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never really targeted gills til this yr. on the 2 outings so far this yr my biggest was 14in out of quaker lake at alleghany state park. even caught a couple with some dark purple coloring. never saw gills with such coloring b-4.
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never really targeted gills til this yr. on the 2 outings so far this yr my biggest was 14in out of quaker lake at alleghany state park. even caught a couple with some dark purple coloring. never saw gills with such coloring b-4.
14"!!! d**n! That's a state record I bet!
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So far this year I have caught three gills that are about ten inches and a little over a pound. My dad caught a 13", 2 1/4 pound monster on our last outing. Next time I am going to forget fishing for bass and will use flies under a bubble. I think I will nail them.
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never really targeted gills til this yr. on the 2 outings so far this yr my biggest was 14in out of quaker lake at alleghany state park. even caught a couple with some dark purple coloring. never saw gills with such coloring b-4.
14"!!! d**n! That's a state record I bet!
thats not odd for that lake . just ask archbishop. he has caught some during the ice season that were just as big if not bigger. i beleave he did post some pics of them next to a
trout he caught.
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the ones you where talkin about where 11" he had two next to a brown i think.
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thats the post. never really paid attention to see if it may be a state record but its to late now. ate them that day. boy were they good ;D
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that gill is 9 inches from a setback of the connecticut river, it is 9 inchs my average for that place is about 7.5
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heres a little free advice shrub, a 9 in. crappie will shrink some when dead and there aint a dec guy in the world that wont give you a ticket for keeping it undersize. from 1 who knows :-\. big dave out
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Shrub's in Vermont...I don't think they have a size limit for crappie there.
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heres a little free advice shrub, a 9 in. crappie will shrink some when dead and there aint a dec guy in the world that wont give you a ticket for keeping it undersize. from 1 who knows :-\. big dave out
Big Dave..that law is a NYS law. Don't think the connecticut river comes anywheres near NY. Guessing shrub is from Vermont or Connecticut.
im from vermont, the lengh limit is 8 inchs, and the fish was alive in water right up intill it was in that sink so there was no shrinking
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man 1 mistake per day is all i can handle lol. tight lines and many more 9 in crappies in your life shrub.
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dat all right, the crapie and gill bite slowed down a lot latley but the seed bights picke up alot
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It might be a little small because i dont know how to get them bigger.
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nice gills.
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nice gills.
thanks got em from a private pond
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9 1/2" gill C&R this morning. ;D
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3 1/2 lbs, 14" for me
what about you?
Doubtful. ::)
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Doubtful. ::)
Hey Taxi...I checked out those 2 yahoos over on a couple of more local Colorado websites, and they posted the same exact lame photos they posted on IS and here, never once showing a bluegill next to a tape measure and always claiming the monster bluegills. The people over there on those sites don't believe half the crap they sling either, and one of them got banned for all his talk about "uprising" against any authority whatsoever.
Funny thing about those 2 is that they always claimed the other one of them measured the fish to verify, but for some reason they could never get a tape and a fish in the same pic...strange....Esox
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9" :-\
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12" ,1 lb. 8 oz. Actually it's a redear caught on a crankbait bass fishing. It's the only gill i've been able to lip. It was the fifth largest reported from Michigan in 2004. It was caught from Baw Beese lake, Michigan a lake which produces a handful of 12" gills and redears each year. Anyways here's the pic of the mount and certificate
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I have a pond that regularly produces 10+ fish, but I have yet to get any over 11 inches. I figure they have to be in there somewhere, I'll just keep trying!
Very nice fish Pikehound!
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Here in Ontario , our bluegill don't grow to those extremes( i wish they did)
The spot i have has produced one 10.5" , but that is about as big as they get.
We averaged 8" the other day. Nobody ever fishes for them here. I would love to break the 11" mark , but for now 10.5" will do.
Here's a few from the other day.....
My GF with a nice 8"
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Me with a baby...just a cool pic
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Not very big , but fun to catch!
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here we go, finally a pic of something to post! i've got 20lb pike, 9lb eyes, and 15" craps, but i think this is my proudest fish as of yet!
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posted it on IS, just had to put it on here!
11 1/4"
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d**n fishingking
those are monsters, im still trying to get ONE that big
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Hey Taxi...I checked out those 2 yahoos over on a couple of more local Colorado websites, and they posted the same exact lame photos they posted on IS and here, never once showing a bluegill next to a tape measure and always claiming the monster bluegills. The people over there on those sites don't believe half the crap they sling either, and one of them got banned for all his talk about "uprising" against any authority whatsoever.
Funny thing about those 2 is that they always claimed the other one of them measured the fish to verify, but for some reason they could never get a tape and a fish in the same pic...strange....Esox
a buddy of mine had the same disease. he was claiming to be catching limits of 15" crappies, so he took me there. in the 3 times i went we didn't get any over 11", but funny, every time he went, limits of monsters!!! and he always forgot the camera, the batteries were dead, etc...
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My biggest is about 11 inches out of one of my ponds.
Feast your eyes on this one. It's a bluegill (not hybrid) from a fellow pond meister dentist in Nebraska that as a hobby is selectively breeding bluegills for fast growth. His goal is to grow 2 lb. bluegills. I'm excited to get some of his stock to start my own broodstock for two of my fish ponds. Notice how much faster the body is growing vs. the head and fins that are normal size.
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This one floated up in my pond the other day. Only 9.5 inches in length but it weighed 1 lb. 1/2 oz. on my certified scale. I have two groups of gills in this pond. Stunted fish that are not pellet fed and pellet fed glls that are quite husky.
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wow You have some monster sized fish in your pond. Those ones are just like the anarexic trout you were posting over on the shanty ::)
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wow You have some monster sized fish in your pond. Those ones are just like the anarexic trout you were posting over on the shanty ::)
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Here's another wiener fish out of one of my ponds. ;D I and some friends took 46 up to 15 1/4 inches out of the biggest pond on the property via angling in two days, and they were moved to a holding pond in the back until health testing results come back, and Bass Pro Shops picks them up for their aquariums. There were at least four in the 15 inch range and most were in the 14 inch range. I was pleasantly surprised. Crazy thing is I had a hell of a time catching them through the ice. If you would have asked me how many were in the pond i would have said just a handful. These fish won't bite on bright days whatsoever.
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thats awsome,, how much do you get per fish from bass pro shops?
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thats awsome,, how much do you get per fish from bass pro shops?
I'll P.M. you. I'm not sure I should blab that on the Internet.
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I'd love to catch a mess of those 11 inchers...WOW!!!
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i think the next state record straw berry is gonna come from the erie canal
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i think the next state record straw berry is gonna come from the erie canal
Don't you mean dinkleberry? :sick:
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icefishing in seneca lake 1.34 pounds.
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This one was caught Ut. weighed in at 2lb 2oz what a fight it was! We go every May just to fish for them....
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Nice fish ;D
Sarg
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3 1/2 lbs, 14" for me
what about you?
you gotta have a picture for me to believe that one
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11 1/2 is my biggest on a 5wt fly rod
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TFB at it again, big fish no pics. Now what else we lying about
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My biggest gill was 9''.
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heres mine.....so far
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My biggest was taken while on the ice,
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1 gill add a few crappies and dinner is served!
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Here's one I caught out of my trophy pond of all male bluegills and all female yellow perch a few days ago. They're usually a pound before they reach 10 inches. Feeding makes a difference with bluegills!
He's broodstock that went into another pond along with about 10 males and 11 females. The Mountain Dew can is an inside joke on another forum for people with ponds.
Excuse the bloodshot eyes but I was mowing that day and I've got really bad hay fever.
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19-6+3-6+9-7+2-4+2-3= my biggest gill ;D
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10.25"
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