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The Fisherman's Wharf => Sports => Nascar => Topic started by: grumpymoe on Sep 10, 2006, 08:15 PM
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constantly reminded through the race and before about where everyone had to be to be in the Chase....seem to recall them saying that Jeff Gordon had to finish 25th or better to be guaranteed a spot....so what the heck happened without going into the math?....he finished 31st and clinched a spot over Tony Stewart who finished 18th and is out.....the 24 car doesnt deserve to be in the chase....Earnhardt worked his butt off with only front brakes and deserved his shot.....imagine pumping the brake pedal on each straightaway just to be able to make the turns without losing too many positions....nice to see Kasey make his way in.....and Harvick close the door on the snot nosed Kyle Busch for the win.....also nice to see Ken Schrader leading for at least a few and holding down a top ten spot.......will be interesting to see what Nascar does to Jeff Green on the second black flag for deliberately spinning out JJ.....all in all..it was a race without a dull moment....Grump
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I was wondering the same thing about Jeffie....all they talked of last night was 25th, so as the laps were winding down and he was 31st...I was hoping there would be no last lap accidents, ANYTHING that could let him advance past 25th, and then here he finishes way past 25th and gets in....what the hey???
Lots of good driving by many, lots of determination by others to not give up, and some good efforts that fell short...one of the better races of the year, even disregarding the fact that this race set the chase members...Esox
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25th was to clinch no matter what, no matter hwere anyone else finished if jeff finished 25th or better he was guaranteed a spot, he had enough points to finish 9th in the points before the race, no math needed, he was in 4th place going into the race, say harvick would have wrecked in the race and finished out of the race, no matter where anyone else finished they would all be in :tipup: tony had a horrible past couple weeks and ended up short in richmond :tipup: gordon, JR and martin all finished out of where they would have clinched a spot :tipup: why doesnt gordon deserve to be in? he has the most points over the past 10 races? what has stewart done over the past 10 races? SQUAT, thats why he dropped from what, 3rd to 11th where he is now, and gordon went from 13th to 4th, and finished after richmond in 9th :tipup:
kinda like in football at the end of the year, if x team wins they clinch, but if they loose and y team looses, they can still get in :tipup:
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I knew you'd have the answer Arch,,,,,
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thanks for the very simple clarification Arch.....I knew I didnt get enough sleep last night....I'll get my calculator and brain in gear tomorrow and see if I can figure out just what X and Y means lol....Grump
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lol, you know what im talking about, even if tony couldve passed 5 more cars, he still wouldnt have bumped out gordon, he wouldve bumped kahne out of the chase :tipup:
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I knew you'd have the answer Arch,,,,,
heck yeah, when your guy gets that close, especially at a track he has notoriously bad finishes at, you do all the scenarios throughout the race, lol, i have no fingernails left after that one :laugh:
heck gordon was 6 positions away from being knocked out, and 1 position away from 7th and 3 from 6th place, that just says it all, the last 5 to get in where really nervous all the way to checkered flag :tipup:
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heck yeah, when your guy gets that close, especially at a track he has notoriously bad finishes at, you do all the scenarios throughout the race, lol, i have no fingernails left after that one :laugh:
heck gordon was 6 positions away from being knocked out, and 1 position away from 7th and 3 from 6th place, that just says it all, the last 5 to get in where really nervous all the way to checkered flag :tipup:
I've got to admit, the one thing Jeffie is consistent on is his finishes at Richmond....Arch, thats about as close to a compliment as you'll ever get from me about Flame Boy....
I think a lot of the race would have been more fender banging IF there would have been a couple more possible contenders for the chase, but since it was just a race for the top 11 going in, I think it may have contributed to a quieter race. If positions 11-15 all had the shot of making the final 10, we may have seen more bump and runs, fender banging, etc....
Even though it was a good race, with JJ and Kenseth having a lock and then Harvick locking in as soon as the first 2 cars dropped out, the race basically was about positions 4-11, besides who would eventually win the race of course.
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sorry to blind you again mike :laugh:
http://www.nascar.com/2006/news/opinion/09/11/jgordon.newton/index.html (http://www.nascar.com/2006/news/opinion/09/11/jgordon.newton/index.html)
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I'm glad the 8 and 9 cars are in. Now I'm just not sure who to root for....lol...So happy that f'in Stweart is out. He really ticks me off. We shall see how she goes....also good to see the "old guy" in the hunt and another good ol boy, Jimmie Johnson.....New Hampshire on the 17th.
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good ol' boy jimmy johnson ???
hes from california ???
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Arch,
I think PGKris is talking about the New Hampshire race. Cause very good Jimmie fan knows he's from California.
The Chase is about the whole season. Not the last race. I have a feeling Jeff G. work hard for his spot in the chase. IMHO
By the way
GO JIMMIE JOHNSON
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New Hampshire is the next race in the Nextel series....what chase were you talking about? Jimmie Johnson loves to fish, you didn't know that? Loves to salmon fish....
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New Hampshire is the next race in the Nextel series....what chase were you talking about? Jimmie Johnson loves to fish, you didn't know that? Loves to salmon fish....
i was talking about the statement that you made saying anothe good 'ol boy was in the race, jimmy johnson ???
not sure about canada but a good 'ol boy here is generally refered to as someone from the south, mostly southeast and jimmy is from northern california :tipup: yes i knew he liked to fish, so does everyone in nascar, hell gordon has a monster boat he takes people out on fishing, but youll never here anyone, me included call him a good 'ol boy :tipup:
you dont call candians, yankees do you :laugh:
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Good ol boy means one of us to me lol. Didn't know it had regional implications :P
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Good ol boy means one of us to me lol. Didn't know it had regional implications :P
well you learn something new everyday dont ya ;)
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Great Gordo starts second Sunday :wacko:
Maybe Harvick will give Kurt or Ryan a $100.00 too spin him out in the first couple of laps :w00t: ;D
I don't know Happy Harvick is on a roll they better look out.!!!!
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Well...young Shrub made it all the way to lap number 3 before finding trouble with that weapon Jeff Green....guess shrub has some front and right side damage...too bad......
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Well...Shrub took a good dump today..and Jimmie Johnson continues his downward spiral...just like he does every year....
Talladega's gonna be the turning point for Harvick, I think by the end of that race he'll be an "also ran"....just a hunch...Esox
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Great Gordo starts second Sunday :wacko:
Maybe Harvick will give Kurt or Ryan a $100.00 too spin him out in the first couple of laps :w00t: ;D
I don't know Happy Harvick is on a roll they better look out.!!!!
well, happy got his help today, not from kurt or ryan but from jeff's teamate :-\ even after vickers was told to move over and not give jeff a fight for position he didnt, i know he is leaving hendrick after this year, but as a future teamate, you cant be happy with him, he is no where near the chase, his teamate that is in is much faster than him, closing from over a few seconds back and he still doesnt let him go ??? i would expect that from a teamate of harvicks, but not gordons own teamate, i agree with the commentators, i think vickers is going to have a special conference come monday :tipup: gordon was the fastest car on the track, if he could have gotten in front of harvick befoire the caution he would have had the win :-\ but harvick had a great restart and tony was on fresher tires, what are you going to do ??? to bad for jimmy and busch, but somebody has to have a bad day on the first race for the chase, just glad it wasnt gordon :tipup:
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OH MY, that was awesome when Vickers was holding Jeff up!!! :whistling: I couldn't believe flame-boy didn't spin him out, teammate or naught. :cookoo: That whole incident just Brought Vickers even higher in my esteem. :thumbup_smilie: Even Flame-boys teammates don't like him, LMAO. I guess Vickers would know that everyone is required to move over if JG is anywhere near them, if he ran up front more often. :-[
Go Happy GO. I am really impressed with RCR and the turnaround they have made. :clapping: Harvick and Burton have my vote for the Championchip, but only for Burton if he wins a race. :-\
Schrub gave it to me up the backside for sure on Sunday, guess that is what I get for going with a Hendricks car. :'( :-[
Dover this weekend, another snoozer. :sleep1:
Mike 8)
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OH MY, that was awesome when Vickers was holding Jeff up!!! :whistling: I couldn't believe flame-boy didn't spin him out, teammate or naught. :cookoo: That whole incident just Brought Vickers even higher in my esteem. :thumbup_smilie: Even Flame-boys teammates don't like him, LMAO. I guess Vickers would know that everyone is required to move over if JG is anywhere near them, if he ran up front more often. :-[
Don't be surprised next year to his Toyota in the wall everytime the 24 comes up behind him ;)
Vickers went way down in my book, not even tony stewart was holding up chase drivers, much less teamates, maybe Brian is just jealous because he is the only Hendrick car not in the chase and without a win in his career :tipup: I'm not just saying that as a Gordon fan, that is just ignorant, Gordon was faster, Gordon is in the chase, he disobeyed his owner and crew chief by battling with Gordon, i know he is hungry for a win, but if your a Toyota driver next year, do you really want that crap going on in your stable ???
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Of course Vickers went down in your book, but how far can that be? Vickers was and still the #4 horse in a 4 horse stable, how much worse can it get? :-\ If you aren't fast enough to pass, then you aren't fast enough, quit crying. :'( ;D OK, I know that passing is very difficult and Vickers should have moved over for JG, but isn't it about keeping everyone else behind you, even if they are faster? I really can't stand team racing, just another example of the movement towards F1 and Indy car style racing, boring. Harry Hyde said it best, "who's pit are you gonna be in come the end of the race?" (or something like that)
Mike
PS I understand your position, and I would prolly have the same feelings if Newman held up Rusty.
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its not the fact that they are teamates as much as the fact Vickers is an unproven driver with 0 wins and no where near the chase with a faster car behind him that is in the chase, hell even Tony Stewart was moving over for chase drivers, heck, Gordon didnt even fight Stewart hard for position because Stewart was faster and Gordon let him go and Gordon is in the chase and Tony isnt ??? the fact that Vickers did this to a teamate should take him down in everyones book, i would feel the same way if Truex did it to JR etc... its almost like Terry Glenn slapping a TD reception out of Owen's hands because Bledsoe throws to TO more than Glenn >:(
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Not true, Gordon's team is all in his pits. Gordon and Vickers are in the same division. :-\
AND, I wouldn't put it past either one of those yahoos, (Glenn and Owens) it would get them more TV time. >:(
Mike
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Not true, Gordon's team is all in his pits. Gordon and Vickers are in the same division. :-\
AND, I wouldn't put it past either one of those yahoos, (Glenn and Owens) it would get them more TV time. >:(
Mike
i totally disagree with the first statement, teams help each other all the time, i would expect that crap from Busch, heck i would expect it from either Busch or Johnson now that its the chase, but not from the teamate that isnt in the chase, and even if your right that your "team" is in the pits, why didnt Vickers listen to his car owner or his crew chief when they said to let Gordon pass and not to hold him up because he was faster and could get the leader and pass for the win, when Vickers knew he couldnt do it? is he Harvicks teamate next year? sure seems like it, he isnt a teamate to the Hendrick cars, and isnt a teamate ignoring his crew and car owner :tipup: how long before Waltrip spins him out next year ???
and the TO, Glenn statement :rotflol: could you see the look on Parcells or Jones if that happened :w00t:
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If you have to put the screws to me, I would say that he has had enough of being 4th fiddle. I am just speculating and I see why you are mad, I am just on the other side of your argument as usual.
Mike
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If you have to put the screws to me, I would say that he has had enough of being 4th fiddle. I am just speculating and I see why you are mad, I am just on the other side of your argument as usual.
Mike
true, but he put himself 4th fiddle, if it wasn't for Ricky, he wouldn't even be a Nextel fiddle ???
but like the commentators were saying, I'm sure he was in a nice closed door meeting today, he may need a hemorrhoid pillow this weekend :tipup:
and i don't think you are on the other side of the argument as me, i think you totally agree with me, you just wont admit it because it happened to Gordon, like i said, if Truex did that to JR, Truex would be getting death threats, just goes to show peoples sportsmanship, a Gordon fan would think that was wrong no matter what, people that hate Gordon think its great, as long as it just happens to Gordon ??? but don't worry, all you anti Gordon fans make us happy, you don't see fans booing anyone else like Gordon, he is in a class by himself ;) ;D
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true, but he put himself 4th fiddle, if it wasn't for Ricky, he wouldn't even be a Nextel fiddle ???
Totally untrue. Vickers is a Busch series champion. You don't need to even win a Busch series race anymore to get a Nextel cup ride. Vickers is better than half the field. I believe when he is given #1 status and all the support that goes along with that, he will be a Chaser. I don't think that is going to happen next year, but it will only take 2 or 3. :tipup:
and i don't think you are on the other side of the argument as me, i think you totally agree with me, you just wont admit it because it happened to Gordon, like i said, if Truex did that to JR, Truex would be getting death threats, just goes to show peoples sportsmanship, a Gordon fan would think that was wrong no matter what, people that hate Gordon think its great, as long as it just happens to Gordon ??? but don't worry, all you anti Gordon fans make us happy, you don't see fans booing anyone else like Gordon, he is in a class by himself ;) ;D
I see and hear fans booing lots of people, JR included. Dale Sr got just as many booes as Gordon does. Kurt Busch gets booed, JJ was getting booed during his prerace interview on Sunday. If you are good and consistantly win, you will get booed, the way it is. :'( ;D
Mike 8)
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Bottom line?....Team racing sucks...especially when it comes down to the crunch (Chase for the Championship). If I was Vickers, I wouldnt have moved over either. As far as Stewart letting faster cars go by?...seems to me he finished 2nd!!! whatever happened to a little bit of blocking to protect your position? The 25 car could have contended for a win. Annnnnnnnd....the 29 and 31 cars had an unfair advantage which has since been closed....sounds like a Berrier version of bleeder valves with the trick slotted rims to keep the tire pressures down.... ;D ;D Grump
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Bottom line?....Team racing sucks...especially when it comes down to the crunch (Chase for the Championship). If I was Vickers, I wouldnt have moved over either. As far as Stewart letting faster cars go by?...seems to me he finished 2nd!!! whatever happened to a little bit of blocking to protect your position? The 25 car could have contended for a win. Annnnnnnnd....the 29 and 31 cars had an unfair advantage which has since been closed....sounds like a Berrier version of bleeder valves with the trick slotted rims to keep the tire pressures down.... ;D ;D Grump
grump? again, do you watch the races? stewart did finish second, but he didnt start up there, he was staying out of the chasers way, and he would gingerly go around any he came upon, he even talked about hating driving that way but he didnt want to be the guy who screwed up the chaser because he remembers people getting in and out of his way last year, heck if tony was his old self and in the chase, he may have won, and like i said grump, gordon didnt fight tony for position because tony was faster and he let him go :tipup:
and no, if you watched the race, the 25 was not a contender to win :tipup:
i know vickers was a good busch driver, but hes not a good nextel driver, remember, no one wanted vickers, ricky talked everyone into it, sad to say, ricky is gone and vickers contract is up, i see even worse things for him at toyota, only time will tell, but i think toyota has him to fill a seat until a good driver jumps ship over to toyota :-\
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grump? again, do you watch the races? stewart did finish second, but he didnt start up there, he was staying out of the chasers way, and he would gingerly go around any he came upon, he even talked about hating driving that way but he didnt want to be the guy who screwed up the chaser because he remembers people getting in and out of his way last year, heck if tony was his old self and in the chase, he may have won, and like i said grump, gordon didnt fight tony for position because tony was faster and he let him go :tipup:
and no, if you watched the race, the 25 was not a contender to win :tipup:
i know vickers was a good busch driver, but hes not a good nextel driver, remember, no one wanted vickers, ricky talked everyone into it, sad to say, ricky is gone and vickers contract is up, i see even worse things for him at toyota, only time will tell, but i think toyota has him to fill a seat until a good driver jumps ship over to toyota :-\
Thats why the chase sucks!!!!! It's like the other drivers out there now shouldn't even be there... And NO I didn't see the race Sunday...Why should other drivers drive any differntly now than before??? Saying they don't want to be responsible for "wrecking" a chaser what the hell is that??? They should have 2 races now the ones that are in the chase and then one for everyone else
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in a way your right CNY, they shouldnt drive any different, but any other time if a faster car comes up from behind you and try's to go around, unless he is near you in points, you concied the position, especially for a teamate, if the guy is near you in points, or you battling for a championship then you fight with him, and its really weird for vickers because up until sunday, he was a great teamate, maybe even to wimpy or timid around the other hendrick drivers, i think thats what gets me the most is how out of character it is for vickers to do that ??? i mean, he only fought gordon? and no other drivers on his way back to 5th ???
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i mean, he only fought gordon?
Maybe flame boy is the only guy he figured he could whip in a fistfight if it came down to it.....
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grump? again, do you watch the races? stewart did finish second, but he didnt start up there, he was staying out of the chasers way, and he would gingerly go around any he came upon, he even talked about hating driving that way but he didnt want to be the guy who screwed up the chaser because he remembers people getting in and out of his way last year, heck if tony was his old self and in the chase, he may have won, and like i said grump, gordon didnt fight tony for position because tony was faster and he let him go
...Arch...Arch...Arch....I sure did watch the race....dont recall Stewart hanging back and staying out of the way....on the contrary, he got the heck out of the rear of the field and was in the top 15 rather quickly....sure did talk about racing the chasers, but he didnt waste any time dumping flame boy to 3rd did he? lol....and if he would have had a shot at Harvick, he too would have been passed...guess everyone has a different perspective on what actually happens during a race and thats good I guess...Grump
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grump? i said he went by gordon without a fight? he (tony) was the faster car? and i also said that if stewart wasnt trying to be nice to the chasers he probably would have won? not a different perspective on the race, just a different reading style on what people type? its all there in the post of mine you highlighted but didnt read clearly :tipup:
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All the talk here and not much said about Kasey Kahne, he's the spoiler here, Go Kasey !!!!!!!!! ;D
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All the talk here and not much said about Kasey Kahne, he's the spoiler here, Go Kasey !!!!!!!!! ;D
nah, i dont see it this year, his time will come, even as a Gordon fan, its kinda hard to bet against Harvick this year :tipup:
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I don't know who said it, but the big time racers don't like the chase, but it's here to stay, so they deal with it. I don't like the fact that these guys drive different, but everyone has their own agenda, chase or no chase. One of the many great things in NASCAR is the fact that we can hear what the drivers have to say at all times, or most of the time anyway. The Networks control who you hear and who you don't if you don't have trackpass and that stuff. I believe they have a lot of control over how a driver is perceived. By letting us here Gordon's anger at Vickers, they give me and Esox fuel to bust on Flame Boy. By letting us hear Tony complain, they can put a bad face on him as well. It is all somewhat produced to get a skewed perception.
Mike
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oh i totally agree, they can definitely put a different spin on things, even let us hear what someone says at an inopportune time :-\ but they need the controversays, it gets ratings, if people start liking Gordon, hell would freeze, look at all the emphasis they put on Edwards anytime he was near someone, there a battle for the lead, yet they are showing Edwards a lap down getting passed by stewart who is on the lead lap,, whoever won the racegets less attention than the interview with stewart and Edwards getting asked how they felt when they seen each other in the rear view etc... its all about ratings, heck they have so many commercials during a race that it seems the only time they come back from commercial is when there is a wreck ??? so majority of the fans only get to see the contraversay :tipup:
as most know i don't like the chase, if JJ and happy race their buts off all year to get way out front, then they deserve to stay out there, if people like Gordon, Kenseth, and JR cant get up there to challenge for the championship on there own, then tuff crap, race better next year :-\ i enjoy the racing, if my guy doesn't perform, then he doesn't deserve a championship, PERIOD :tipup: but now, hell people that were 400+ points out and skimmed by all year now have a chance to win it all, they are rewarding mediocrity for ratings :tipup: and yes, Gordon is included in that statement :tipup:
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Well...Shrub and Kahne have pretty much resigned themselves to the fact that they're out of contention for the cup this year. Sorry to see Kahne eliminated (in theory) so quickly this year, the kid is a good clean racer and seems to not be afflicted with the arrogance that Shrub is cursed with. Now Shrub on the other hand being out of it doesn't hurt my feelings at all, nice to see him right down there with his partner JJ....'bout time for Flame Boy to have a poor run and drop him down as well, I think his hot streak is done......I know Arch will tell us different, ...Kenseth is ticked, Reiser is upset over his decision, Junior is not having the luck he needs to keep him in contention much longer.
Already looks like RCR is going to step down their engine program for the remainder of the chase, Between Burton winning yesterday and Harvick blowing the motor, this combination may just get them squared away enough to make either of them win the chase.
That late caution yesterday in the middle of green flag pit stops hurt a lot of people, the outcome of the race would have been entirely different if a lot of the front runners didn't get caught one lap down.....it was nice to see Burton win again even though I'm not a big fan of his....
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what the heck are you talking about ??? gordons hot streak is just starting :tipup:
and to bad the front runners got caught a lap down? heck, thats all they talked about for 40 laps, how dumb a pit strategy the front runners were on, if you want to call them front runners, they were the mid-pack runners until a pit strategy put them to front runners, and then put them back where they belong, front runners, thats funny :laugh: anyway, they tried, it didnt work, like we all knew it wouldnt, and the bonehead move of the day goes to the 17, if they would have come in, with the front running and fastest car when everyone else did, they would have won, they knew everyone else was close or a no go on fuel, yet for some reason they stayed out? even if a couple others chanced it, they still had time and speed to get back up front ??? then matt was told he was fine on gas and race away? he used alot of fuel racing burton, he may have had a top 5 if his crew didnt assure him he was fine on fuel, all it takes is, your about out, let the 31 go and just coat the last couple laps :tipup:
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I'm busting your chops Arch on Flame-O..but my prediction is that he has a dismal 2nd half of the chase and finishes the year 4th,
I didn't watch the race yesterday, but kept up on nascar.com...all those guys like Martin who were running around around 4th or so who pitted and then got caught a lap down, hell, there were only 10 cars left on the lead lap when the caution flew so 30 some cars had pitted under green.....I like the green flag pit stops in one way but in another it sucks.....
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I'm busting your chops Arch on Flame-O..but my prediction is that he has a dismal 2nd half of the chase and finishes the year 4th,
thats my worry, the last 3 tracks are the only 3 he hasnt won on :'( but he already won on a track this year he hasnt won on before, so maybe there's hope ???
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How 'bout that 24 car at Kansas?? Awesome!!!!
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How 'bout that 24 car at Kansas?? Awesome!!!!
I think the FAT LADY is tuning up for the 2 Hendrick "Flamers" ;) ;D
Oh how great it will be .... Go #31 :P
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2..or all 3?? Oh wait..she was singin' last week for one of them already...my mistake....
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2..or all 3?? Oh wait..she was singin' last week for one of them already...my mistake....
Can't wait for Arch to chime in but probably won't be until tomorrow night as he starts work tomorrow... I think he might be a little under the "weather" now ;) ;D
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I think the FAT LADY is tuning up for the 2 Hendrick "Flamers" ;) ;D
Oh how great it will be .... Go #31 :P
hey, dumass, there are 3 hendrick cars in the chase.watch it once and a while instead of putting in you 1 1/2 cents ;)
2..or all 3?? Oh wait..she was singin' last week for one of them already...my mistake....
well if you watch NASCAR you would know the answer to the 2 or 3 question :-\ actually the 24 and 48 can both be in first next week, neither are out of anything, gordon had his muligan this week with his bad fuel pump, but he is 1 race from being in first, as is the 48, but talledega is next and the hottest driver over the past month (gordon) has won 2 of the past 5 and 4 all together, and the 48 is the winner her earlier this year, so i wouldnt go counting the hendrick boys out just yet :tipup:
and for you guys thinking the 31 is going to win it all :laugh:
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2..or all 3?? Oh wait..she was singin' last week for one of them already...my mistake....
oh i forgot, last week gordon was just barley out of first, watch the race instead of the highlights ;)
CB lover :tipup:
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Get too bed I think "something else" is talking and not you ;) ::)
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Yahooooooooooooooooo!!!...the 31 is the car to beat.....not denying that Harvick is out of it.....but the Rainbow just landed at the end of the toilet!!....what a comical exchange that was on the radio lmao.....they dont deserve to even be in the race....Stewart is going to spoil alot of wannabees before this is over....still rotflmao...Rainbow whatever!!....Grump ;D ;D ;D
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Yahooooooooooooooooo!!!...the 31 is the car to beat.....not denying that Harvick is out of it.....but the Rainbow just landed at the end of the toilet!!....what a comical exchange that was on the radio lmao.....they dont deserve to even be in the race....Stewart is going to spoil alot of wannabees before this is over....still rotflmao...Rainbow whatever!!....Grump ;D ;D ;D
stewart cant spoil anything, hes out of the top 10 :-\
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stewart cant spoil anything, hes out of the top 10 :-\
The race Einstein, the race. ::)
Well sure the 24 and the 48 can still win the chase, but WILL they? I say no. That was a serious momentum killer for the 24. It is a waste of time to show you reason Arch, but that is OK, I would expect nothing less than blind loyalty. :tipup:
How about that 31 team? I have been quietly supporting this guy all year. I am sure some people will accuse me of being a bandwagon jumper, but I have been there. Actually, I have always been a fan of Burton, he is a class guy. ;D
At the start of the race, did anyone think that Burton would be leading, Hamlin would be 2nd, and Martin would be 3rd?? :unsure:
And finally; how bout the racing at Kansas this weekend. I have to say, the racing this year has been pretty dang good overall. 2 of the traditionally boring races have stood out in my mind as being 2 of the best, (Michigan and Kansas) and Bristol stands out as being a snoozer. :sleep1:
Mike :afro:
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stewart cant spoil anything, hes out of the top 10
..I'll forgive Arch on this slipup......1st takes the most points....in or out of the Chase....still rotflmao watching the 24 car take er behind the wall trying to figure out what the heck happened...even 7 laps down....thats what you get with a snot nosed crew chief riding the coattails of a decent driver until the pressure is on....Tart!!!....Grump ;D ;D
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talladega.....what a gongshow. I think I yelled a lot when they spun junior and johnson out. d**n! That was in the bag!
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It's never in the bag until you've taken the checkers...ask Bill Elliott about the last race his last full year of racing, had the lead by a substantial margin and had a flat with less than a half lap....
It's really a crap shoot who's going to take it this year, the top 7 guys are so close in points that it could be any one of them....I have my favorite but his record over the long haul shows him finishing 2nd place again.....
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It's never in the bag until you've taken the checkers...ask Bill Elliott about the last race his last full year of racing, had the lead by a substantial margin and had a flat with less than a half lap....
It's really a crap shoot who's going to take it this year, the top 7 guys are so close in points that it could be any one of them....I have my favorite but his record over the long haul shows him finishing 2nd place again.....
Hmm wonder who that is #6 ???
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I have been quietly cheering for Jeff Burton all year. I have always considered him a class act and a great driver. I have always said that he needs to get out of Roush racing to win a championship. I am pulling for Jeff. I am very sorry to see all that has transpired since the wreck at Talladega. I have a lot of respect for Brian Vickers and the crash at Dega did nothing to tarnish that. I think between him and Johnson, there wasn't enough talent and experience to make the pass on Jr. Dale Jr is IMO, the best plate racer there is. I don't think Johnson is worth a crap on the plate tracks and I don't think Vickers cares what-so-ever that he wrecked Johnson. He has been treated very shabbily since announcing that he is leaving Hendrick Motorsports. It is very obvious why he would want to leave them, money isn't everything!!!! Go Brian Vickers and Congrats on your first win, I am sure you haven't heard that enough.
Mike
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C'mon Mike! I thought the Bristol race was great. I am a little biased I guess. As far as Jimmy not being worth a crap on plate tracks, he won two of them this year, so he can't be that bad at it.
Vickers lost a lot of respect from me this weekend. Not because of the wreck. It's 'Dega. That kind of stuff happens. But when he blamed Jimmy during the interview? Come on!? Brian, there's cameras watching you. Everybody with two eyes and 6 or more functioning brain cells could see that you hooked Jimmy's right rear quarter when you turned down too early to push him past Jr. Simple, honest mistake. I doubt it was intentional. Just show that you have a pair and take the blame when you deserve it.
Personally, I'm rooting for Martin this year. That crazy old man deserves one. Kenseth is my driver, but he can win it next year. I'd like to see Burton get it too, but he's got a couple years to get a championship too. Needless to say, I'm pretty happy with the standings right now.
kc17
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Personally, I'm rooting for Martin this year. That crazy old man deserves one.
You're darn right he does! I wish he could get one! I'm always gonna be pullin for Jr. but right behind him is Martin and Kahne.
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It would appear as though Kenseth will win another one.
Mark is always gonna choke,
and Hendricks self-destructed as predicted. :D :D :D
Anchorman
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What a race last night. Poor Jeffy....... ;D ;D ;D Nothing but the best for Gordon.
Mark Martin belly-aching as usual.
And Jeff burton hangs onto the lead. that guy has gotten alot of breaks so far this chase.
I still think Kenseth is gonna get him.