i have got to tell you guys that fish for pike go get yourself one of the new glidin rap!!!!! size 12 this lure is amazing, bought one last year for our trip to canada in july and lo and behold it was the best lure we ever used!!! cant wait to try it out this june in the shallows, this lure has the best action i have ever seen on a glide bait! they are pricy but they work so give em a try and let me know how you make out with them, also work great for musky!!!!!1 good luck guys EYEFISHERMAN D.T.