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Title: Trash
Post by: got em on Jul 18, 2018, 12:35 PM
 >:(   Pigs (people not fish ) are at lock 2 on the Hudson River. . Trash all over at the South end of the lock. .  >:(.  I took out a garbage bag full . . Turned in the cans /bottles and got a couple bucks. . Don't understand their mentality. .
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: WalleyeWonder on Jul 18, 2018, 12:44 PM
Happens to often. How hard its it to put line, wrappers in a pocket. A stereotype I don't want. People like that around here have ruined access in many great spots and opportunities for respectful people like you and I. Can't fix lazy. Never will
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Jul 18, 2018, 12:49 PM
>:(   Pigs (people not fish ) are at lock 2 on the Hudson River. . Trash all over at the South end of the lock. .  >:(.  I took out a garbage bag full . . Turned in the cans /bottles and got a couple bucks. . Don't understand their mentality. .
you should have went to the lock house and told the lock operator ---the lock system is all private lands
at one time the operator for lock 2 lived in greenville on rt.81
we would get you plate no. and give it to the cops.'big fine'
that was when the thruway owned it,now the power aut.owns it ,cuomo gave it to then
RAT
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: got em on Jul 18, 2018, 01:06 PM
Thanks rat next time I will inform the lock operator. .  ;) . . Yeah ya really can't fix stupid. .  :'( . .
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: oatkasut on Jul 18, 2018, 01:37 PM
It really has an impact!I talked to a land owner who is considering closing off his property and stream access because of all the trash people leave behind. I always bring a trash bag to pick up other people's stuff on the way out.
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Jul 18, 2018, 02:25 PM
It really has an impact!I talked to a land owner who is considering closing off his property and stream access because of all the trash people leave behind. I always bring a trash bag to pick up other people's stuff on the way out.
and so do i and will till i die--if more did that there would be no junk to pick up
RAT
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jul 18, 2018, 02:31 PM
If everyone would remember one little state rule we would all be good.... ::)


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Title: Re: Trash
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Jul 18, 2018, 02:36 PM
If everyone would remember one little state rule we would all be good.... ::)


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VERY TRUE, but you have to be able to read.
RAT
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: ActiveTrapChecker on Jul 18, 2018, 02:59 PM
I am one who always carries more out than i bring in. It's a shame.
Same holds true in the woods, the golf course, even the county fair.
the right thing to do is not leave a trail behind you. even better if you pick of the mess of others
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 18, 2018, 08:31 PM
I'm not sure  but as far as I know the   locks and canals  are all run  by the  new York state  canal  corp  not the  power authority   but I may bee  wrong 
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: Mac Attack on Jul 18, 2018, 08:35 PM
I'm not sure  but as far as I know the   locks and canals  are all run  by the  new York state  canal  corp  not the  power authority   but I may bee  wrong

"The New York State Canal Corporation is responsible for the oversight, administration and maintenance of the New York State Canal System.[2] In 2012, the Canal Corp., then a subsidiary of the New York State Thruway Authority, employed 529 people, consisting of 458 full-time employees and 78 seasonal workers. Its spending accounted for about 10 percent of the Thruway Authority's total $1.1 billion in annual spending. In 2012, the Canal Corp.'s operating budget was $55.7 million and its capital budget was $51.4 million.[15]
An August 2012 report by state Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli said the canal system "contributed to the deterioration of the Authority's financial condition over the past decade", even as canal traffic had dropped nearly one-third since the period immediately before the Thruway Authority assumed control.[16]
Effective January 1, 2017, the New York State Canal Corporation became a subsidiary of the New York Power Authority. The move was authorized in April 2016 through the state budget process.[17] Its headquarters then moved from the Thruway Authority's offices to 30 S. Pearl St., Albany, the New York Power Authority's regional offices.[18]"
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 18, 2018, 09:00 PM
so mac the locks are still operated by the  thruway????  and the canal the power authority??? or is it  the canal corp that has it's office in with the power authority  ? and  yet this is all new York state  so we still pay for it with our taxes  :rotflol:
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: RIVERRAT2 on Jul 19, 2018, 06:53 AM
I'm not sure  but as far as I know the   locks and canals  are all run  by the  new York state  canal  corp  not the  power authority   but I may bee  wrong
TRAP- true, but the power authority runs the canal corp,just like the thuway did
cuomo-1- sold the canal system to the thruway because cuomo wanted money
and cuomo could not sell bonds but the thruway could.now cuomo-2- was getting
heat about the thruways always raising the tolls because of all the repairs need
on the canal system,so cuomo-2-'TOOK' the canal away from the thruway and 'GAVE'
it to the power authority,now your rates for elec.go up for the repairs more people paying
with the thruway less people pay and you see that
 :( :( :(
RAT.
 
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 19, 2018, 05:55 PM
TRAP- true, but the power authority runs the canal corp,just like the thuway did
cuomo-1- sold the canal system to the thruway because cuomo wanted money
and cuomo could not sell bonds but the thruway could.now cuomo-2- was getting
heat about the thruways always raising the tolls because of all the repairs need
on the canal system,so cuomo-2-'TOOK' the canal away from the thruway and 'GAVE'
it to the power authority,now your rates for elec.go up for the repairs more people paying
with the thruway less people pay and you see that
 :( :( :(
RAT.

rat the power authority is owned by the state of new York
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: Mac Attack on Jul 19, 2018, 06:49 PM

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Title: Re: Trash
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 19, 2018, 06:54 PM
I'd like to see how the complainers would solve the problems of infrastructure repairs and maintenance. Just where should the billions needed come from? We drive the roads, boat the canals, use the locks...just who is supposed to pay for all the maintenance? Should it all be free? Should no one be paid for the work it takes to keep things running? Do we have some god given righ to use these amenities?


Rg
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 19, 2018, 06:56 PM
And.....on the subject of trash........litterbugs should be sentenced to many months of hard labor.......cleaning up after their own kind.

Rg
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 19, 2018, 08:46 PM
mmmmm RG I don't think anyone was complaining, just wondering who controls it .....now if the state can save money by  having the power authority in control  so be it ...... so relax ...people are just talking .....
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jul 20, 2018, 01:06 AM

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Title: Re: Trash
Post by: rgfixit on Jul 20, 2018, 07:35 AM
I don't know what the ..........that is :o
Rg
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: filetandrelease on Jul 20, 2018, 08:10 AM
I don't know what the ..........that is :o
Rg
Easy don’t say anything or someone will be offended lol
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: got em on Jul 20, 2018, 09:03 AM
What would you do if you see someone leaving trash at your fishing spots. . Call someone. . Say something. . Whoop some ass. . 🤔. .
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 20, 2018, 11:10 AM
I say something right then .... I tell them big your stuff up



iwatched them drain thesmallpower house in fulton yesterday for repairs when the water wasdown to  ankle deep 5 workers were in the water chasing fish with nets to catch them and release to deep water
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: filetandrelease on Jul 20, 2018, 05:24 PM

Mention to them that they must have forgotten to pick it up if that doesn’t work 😉 their are alternatives
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jul 20, 2018, 07:21 PM
Not sure what that is either but thought it was funny ..😂🤣😂🤣...it mite be trappers side kick...
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: taxid on Jul 20, 2018, 07:24 PM
We had a problem with people missing the wastebasket in the bathroom at my national guard base. Finally some crusty ol' SGT. put a sign on the mirror that said,
"Hey Dude! Mom's not here to pick up after you! That means you need to be a man and do it yourself!"  It solved the problem!
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jul 20, 2018, 07:33 PM
I don't get mad anymore the little guy and myself just look at each other shake our heads..then he goes to the truck gets a bag and we pick it throw it away  do the hi 5 and fish...mostly night fisherman in our area that makes a mess ..we were walleye fishing last Sunday night ppl were catfishing they picked up and left 3 bottles a bag and left over chicken liver...little guy goes dad this is how it's done..he goes to them and says can you please throw your trash away they stopped for a second didn't say a word.they walked back picked it up threw it away..he goes thank for picking your trash up I like fishing here..they actually said sorry that they were gonna leave it behind..out of the clear blue sky my son goes don't do it again they smiled and your a good young man ..after they left he called them a few good choice names..😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: hunts2long on Jul 21, 2018, 07:09 AM
They used to have trash cans at the launch site down the road. They removed them a few years ago. Now they have TAKE IT WITH YOU signs. When there were trash cans, there was always trash everywhere. Now you see very little and what little there is cleaned up...h2l
Title: Re: Trash
Post by: fontona19 on Jul 30, 2018, 06:53 PM
you should have went to the lock house and told the lock operator ---the lock system is all private lands
at one time the operator for lock 2 lived in greenville on rt.81
we would get you plate no. and give it to the cops.'big fine'
that was when the thruway owned it,now the power aut.owns it ,cuomo gave it to then
RAT

But then you could lose that access. Better to keep it to yourself and pick it up.  No sense in getting the authorities involved.

Rumor is that now that the  power authority runs things the locks may continue to lets us pass free of charge.