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MFF US Northeast => New Hampshire => Topic started by: hardwatergrampa on May 04, 2021, 10:40 AM
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havent fished it in a few years who plans to fish it derby entry sure gone up
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havent fished it in a few years who plans to fish it derby entry sure gone up
Never fished it, not much of a tournament guy plus I suck at catching salmon anyway.
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Would love to see it go away and never return.
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Would love to see it go away and never return.
Including the winter derby!
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I agree. Hurts the salmon population but unfortunately brings to much $$$ to the region
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Including the winter derby!
Agreed!
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There’s a reason they are doing another stocking AFTER the derby. That should say it all.
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There’s a reason they are doing another stocking AFTER the derby. That should say it all.
That makes a lot of sense. It doesn’t matter what you do those juvis don’t take well to treble hooks.
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didnt they start that to help the fishing on the lake years ago was the talk of all derbies i just dont see 65.00 to enter and then paying all the taxes if you win
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i just dont see 65.00 to enter
It's up to $65??? No thanks. I agree they should end these.
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For the life of me I have no idea what NHF&G is thinking by allowing a "SALMON" fishing derby on Winni right now...and I say Salmon because that is the targeted fish to get first prize. They full well know the salmon fishery has crashed on Winni and there own fall netting results has proven this. There are no or very few 3, 4, and 5 year old age class salmon in the lake currently. These missing age classes make up on average 75% of the the total salmon population in the lake. Why on earth would they have a derby that targets the already depleted salmon population?? It makes no sense whatsoever!
I have actually heard some from F&G say the derby does no harm to the salmon population...I call total BS on this!! Not many know or remember this but this derby started by the late Rick Davis was originally started to REDUCE the population of salmon specifically in lake Winnipesaukee because of over stocking and lack of smelt forage. I remember how F&G stated back then how great the derby worked to reduce the population but now today it magically no longer harms the salmon???...How is that possible?
If they want to have the derby and the almighty dollar means that much, why not target lake trout as the primary fish and remove salmon altogether from the prize list? Lake trout are in a totally different water column than salmon in the month of May so very few salmon would be accidentally caught. Lord knows the lake has way too many Lake Trout in it now...and while we are at it why not add a rock bass category for kids??
If anyone here believes that only the "boarded" fish are affected by the derby, think again... Living on Welch Island I see first hand the results of all the mishandled and hook wounded salmon that wash up on my shoreline for two weeks after the derby! I can tell you that way more fish die due to mishandling than what is boarded by a long shot!!
Lets give the lake a chance to rebound. The Nashua hatchery thus far has done a fantastic job of rearing the smolt for the past couple years. In a couple / few years more, Winni could / will be a great salmon fishery! Let's give it a chance to heal!!
Dan
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Stop making sense Dan ;)
It’s funny I read just the other day that the derby was started to reduce the salmon population because they overstocked the lake.... I would be all for a laker derby on there, heck even if it was only a friendly derby for bragging rights.
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I would be all for a laker derby on there, heck even if it was only a friendly derby for bragging rights.
Count me in.
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I think my bias is pretty well documented in that I greatly favor burp-sharks to silver stockies so take this with whatever salt necessary, and know that I have no strong feeling about the winni derby (never fished it)... but... Isn’t the whole point of stocking fish to have fun catching them? Seems like a lot of folks around here look forward to the derby. (This is also coming from a guy that wishes management of existing, self perpetuating populations had higher priority than stocking fish but that’s a whole different can o worms)
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Isn’t the whole point of stocking fish to have fun catching them?
And what could make that even more fun? Catching them twice the size! ;D
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Does anyone know if any of the prior derbies bought fish to stock prior to the derby? The salmon fisheries is a put and take one and if that was a requirement I'd have little complaint.
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Does anyone know if any of the prior derbies bought fish to stock prior to the derby? The salmon fisheries is a put and take one and if that was a requirement I'd have little complaint.
As far as the Winni derby is concerned, no one has ever "purchased" fish to supplement the derby. While I agree the salmon are "put and take", the fishery has crashed and 75% of the salmon are gone. That does not make for a healthy fishery for anyone. I honestly see no reason to cancel the derby as I know many enjoy it with their families and friends but why not re-format it to target a different species (Lake Trout) until the salmon population rebounds?... would that be so bad?...
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at 1 time didnt money from the derby help fund the stocking or some of it when Rick was in charge i have fished the derby several times in the past always had a good time with family and friends
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at 1 time didnt money from the derby help fund the stocking or some of it when Rick was in charge i have fished the derby several times in the past always had a good time with family and friends
I could be wrong but not that I remember...The derby was started by Rick in unison with F&G to reduce the salmon population in the lake at a time of over stocking and inadequate smelt forage.
Dan
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Great Posts Dan!
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I could be wrong but not that I remember...The derby was started by Rick in unison with F&G to reduce the salmon population in the lake at a time of over stocking and inadequate smelt forage.
Dan
i was gonna look at some of the older post on the lake winni site but looks like that site is closed
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And what could make that even more fun? Catching them twice the size! ;D
When it comes to fish bigger is usually better (unless they’re tank scraping broodstock).
... it took me a while to choose my words about “bigger being better” carefully.
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When it comes to fish bigger is usually better (unless they’re tank scraping broodstock).
... it took me a while to choose my words about “bigger being better” carefully.
;D :tipup:
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Good luck to anyone fishing this tourney next weekend, it was humiliating out there yesterday. I threw everything I had at them for 6 hours and came up blank. Surface temps were still largely in the 45's. I saw some 48's while over deeper water.
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Good luck to anyone fishing this tourney next weekend, it was humiliating out there yesterday. I threw everything I had at them for 6 hours and came up blank. Surface temps were still largely in the 45's. I saw some 48's while over deeper water.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one... only caught 2 smallmouth. Gonna try and find some white perch today...
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derby just a few hrs away good luck to all fishing enjoy your weekend send us some pictures'
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1 vote for burb sharks over broodstock here. I'd rather French kiss my aunt than fish in a derby.
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what shee look like
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what shee look like
Haha! Well played! Thought I was going to haveto do it :tipup:
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what shee look like
You'd get more excited kissing the burp shark....
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hell at my age any excitement is good well almost all
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Haha! Well played! Thought I was going to haveto do it :tipup:
glad he was ok with it i just had too :D
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end of day 1 5.68 salmon in the lead nice fish
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glad he was ok with it i just had too :D
Oh ya no sweat at all.
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end of day 1 5.68 salmon in the lead nice fish
Imagine if there was no day 1 and that Salmon was a 7.68 in 2 years. Now that would be sweet.
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watched it on line 2 day they have caught some nice fish i think they said they had 1000 adult entries