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Can any1 tell me why alsop winterkilled?????????
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Can any1 tell me why alsop winterkilled?????????
fishwhisperer307,
The Laramie Fisheries Management Crew is aware of the fish kill at Alsop Lake. We walked about half of the lake this last Monday and counted over 50 dead fish on the shoreline. We have not been able to get a boat onto the lake yet due to the wind to assess how many fish might be on the bottom of the lake. Dead small minnow species were also observed along the shoreline. Water quality measurements were taken also on Monday and they all appeared normal, so whatever has happened is now over. We will be sampling the lake soon and this will give us a better idea if this was a partial winterkill or complete winterkill. We do stock about 5,000 trout annually into Alsop Lake, so 50 dead ones along the shore would not represent a large portion of the population. In addition, we will be restocking the lake mid-April and this fish will grow quickly. One reason this event may have happened: The lake was still frozen as of this last Thursday and then opened up very quickly. Over the winter oxygen in the water that settles to the bottom of the lake can become depleted. When a lake becomes unfrozen and the wind turns the lake over quickly the anoxic water mixes. This can cause oxygen levels throughout the lake to potentially drop quickly causing fish to die. This is just one possislbe cause of this event. When Alsop Lake maintains a good water level, like it has over the last couple of years, winterkill events like this have been rare, so we hope this was just a one time Perfect Storm of environmental variables coming together. Again, we will be sampling the lake in a week or so and I will post results for those of you interested.
Thanks for your concern,
WGFDLaramieFishBio
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If baitfish are trapped and killed in one drainage area, say drainage area 5, those baitfish CANNOT be used in another drainage area, say drainage area 4, right? ???
Thanks for clarification
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Where can I find data concerning stocking of cat fish in the North Platte from Dave Johnston down stream to the Ne. state line?
Does this section of river get stocked with Catfish, or do they just migrate out of Glendo upstream? Are there any catfish down stream of Glendo?
Thanks so much for your time and input guys! ;D
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I have heard many stories on the age of Lake Trout. I am sure it varies from lake to lake but what is the real story?
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ya its just a shame these lakes always winterkill because they grow fish so fast.i know that weeds play a big role in winter killing.....so why dont they completely just poison the lake and kill off all the plants and start new?
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o ya and thanks a bunch for the reply, cleared alot up. have you heard anything on meebor i heard it may have had a partial kill?
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Are there fish stocking reports available for the lakes in Wyoming? If so how would a guy get a hold of one. Thanks.
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what is the status of walleye in hawk springs. Has stocking continued through the low water periods?
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i too would like to know about the status of Hawk Springs in general. I have read that there are Largemouth Bass in there but friends ive talked to have said they have never caught one. Id love to explore there this season if it was worth it with a good population. Thanks so much to the G&F guys that take the time to answer here and on the ice shanty board. I really appreciate the info! Cheers,Chris
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Alsop Lake Update:
We have received some credible reports of anglers catching fish at Alsop Lake this weekend. So not all is lost! We still have plans to sample the lake next week and I will post the results.
Thanks,
WGFDLaramieFishBio
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what is the status of walleye in hawk springs. Has stocking continued through the low water periods?
Hump,
Over the last two years spring water levels at Hawk Springs Reservoir have improved, while still drawn down annually the fall water level has not approached the low minimum pool we observed in 2006. Based on a research project (evaluating the contribution of stocked walleye vs. wild walleye) and population dynamics walleye stocking was discontinued from 2005 through 2008. Due to the lack of juvenile walleye caught during our annual sampling from 2006 through 2008, annual stocking was resumed in 2009. Around 80,000 fingerling walleye were stocked in 2009 and 2010 and account for a large year class of walleye between 11-13 inches caught in our sampling gear in 2010. Some natural reproduction may be attributing to this large year class as spawning habitat has improved over the last two years. All size classes of walleye were in good condition, which may be attributed to the numerous forage fish species (gizzard shad, spottail shiner, and juvenile crappie). Memorable sized crappie (>12 inches) await anglers who take advantage of this spring fishery, as crappie caught in our gear in 2010 ranged in length from 6-13 inches and averaged over 8 inches. Channel catfish are still available to anglers, despite their inconsistent stocking since 2002. This has been due to a number of different reasons, but we will continue to stocked channel catfish when we can. Despite being stocked in 2008, no largemouth bass were captured in 2009 or 2010. This may be because it takes a long time for a bass in Wyoming to get to any size. We have had credible reports of anglers catching largemouth from the dam in 2010. We will continue to stock 80,000 walleye annually and channel catfish when available. We expect a large year class of walleye in 2011 that will range between 14-17 inches. Go get’em!
Thanks,
WGFDFishBioLaramie
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Are there fish stocking reports available for the lakes in Wyoming? If so how would a guy get a hold of one. Thanks.
Angler82,
Call your local fish biologist at the Regional Office closest to you. They should be able to email or send you when you need in terms of stocking.
Thanks,
WGFDFishBioLaramie
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Thanks, I really like that little lake. Glad to hear you guys are keeping on top of it.
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I was looking at some of the catfish mattr was catching and they seemed to have some kind of parasite on there fins Wat are they
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Wow! I hadn't even noticed that until you posted. I've seen it on fish down south on the Gulf Coast. It looks like mycobacterium marinum. The MS G&F biologist down there told me all fish carry it, but it's more noticeable on fish in warm water. If that's what it is, it's easily transmitted to humans. Can't wait to hear what our guys say about it. Don :tipup:
(The stuff on the tail fins looks like...sand. Sores on the pec fins...not so much unless that's part of what happens when they clear beds to spawn.)
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I think they are little flat worms. Whatever it is I only seem to find them in winter/early spring catfish. Allot of the perch have them also in winter, same w/ the carp.
Never seen one on a walleye.
I would like to know for sure. ???
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I was talking about what appears to be the reddish blotches or sores on the pectoral fins. :tipup:
(Fifth picture down...reddish-pink blotches)
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I think thoses are leaches......i have seen them on the fins of other fish too from glendo.
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I seen them on cat at grayrock also i don't no if thy are leaches but i would like to know if thy are harmful to man
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They used to be on all the cats we caught on the Snake River. They seem to be a type of worm/parasite...
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3 yrs ago when i hit the cats hard at glendo they all had them. they were little worms of some sort. And growing up fishing the Big Horn river for cats, ling, and sauger they had them also. Was told that they are not serious. However that was from grandpa!!! he said they are just part of the river, still creepy though.
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Does the Wyoming Game and Fish still stock Greyrocks reservoir with tiger muskie?
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Does the Wyoming Game and Fish still stock Greyrocks reservoir with tiger muskie?
No, not for several years. It is my understanding the walleye anglers pressured the G&F to discontinue stocking tiger musky because they thought the tigers were eating all the walleye.
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IMO leave Glendo for the eyes and give us some toothy critters :laugh:
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I keep hearing that the water at Boysen is still really green and slimy, like it was most of last summer. Can you please post on the prognosis of the lake. Is it anticipated that it will clear up anytime soon? That is my favorite lake and I would hate to have to spend the late spring/summer fishing somewhere else. :o
I appreciate the Game and Fish being willing to answer so many of our questions.
Thanks
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Where can I find data concerning stocking of cat fish in the North Platte from Dave Johnston down stream to the Ne. state line?
Does this section of river get stocked with Catfish, or do they just migrate out of Glendo upstream? Are there any catfish down stream of Glendo?
Thanks so much for your time and input guys! ;D
Matt- Not to sure about stocking info on the cats, but will asure you that cats are found throughout the river system from DJ to the Mississippi.
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way is Wyoming not as open about stocking places and times as other states
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We are currently in the process of proposing changes to fishing regulations for 2012-2013. If you would like more information on how to comment and where the meeting will be held in the Laramie Region check out this link
http://gf.state.wy.us/downloads/pdf/RegionalNews/fishmeetlar11.pdf
Thanks,
WGFDFishBioLaramie
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Myself and some buddy's were wondering about the Gillette fishing lake being drained and dredged to 20 ft. and the talk of an upstream settling pond? the paper here has been mum on the situation lately. The last we knew the DEQ was wanting more water study done on the donkey creek that feeds the lake. I guess, is it in the plan to do the work this summer since it was postponed from last summer? And is there going to be any public or sportsmans input into the fish species to be stocked once the project is finished?
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Myself and some buddy's were wondering about the Gillette fishing lake being drained and dredged to 20 ft. and the talk of an upstream settling pond? the paper here has been mum on the situation lately. The last we knew the DEQ was wanting more water study done on the donkey creek that feeds the lake. I guess, is it in the plan to do the work this summer since it was postponed from last summer? And is there going to be any public or sportsmans input into the fish species to be stocked once the project is finished?
Good question. It is our understanding that the city of Gillette will not drain and dredge Gillette fishing lake until sometime in 2012. We have provided comments about the project but this is solely a city of Gillette project. Any specific questions about the project should be directed to the city of Gillette (they know more than we do). When the draining and dredging happens, we will likely take advantage and renovate the fishery. As far as the fish, we plan to continue with the popular catchable trout stocking program and potentially add yellow perch, bluegill, largemouth bass, and channel catfish. We considered walleye as well, but Gillette Fishing Lake is too small for walleye to work.
Hope this helps
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I for one would love to see the bass, prech and blugill if the panfish can be managed to produce "good" sized fish to keep. Just hope that it doesnt turn out like it is now with all of the almost bait sized sunfish. Thank you for the response!
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Is there currently any provision for NOT CITING an un-licensed individual who takes small game or fish when in a legitimate and desperate survival situation? Should there be one or is it just common sense that one would do what is necessary to survive and Wardens will ignore the violation?
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Is there currently any provision for NOT CITING an un-licensed individual who takes small game or fish when in a legitimate and desperate survival situation? Should there be one or is it just common sense that one would do what is necessary to survive and Wardens will ignore the violation?
WY G&F Bio answered on page 3 of the related thread below :tipup:
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Anyone know where i can get some shiners?
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What kind of fish swim in Guernsey res.?
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Hmmm, good call, ill have to do some research. Thanks.
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Whats the word on east allen lake
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Whats the word on east allen lake
Fishwhisperer307,
East Allen Lake was stocked in 2009 (10,000 cutthroat) and in 2011 (50,000 rainbow trout). Sampling in 2009 and spring 2010 documented the collapse of the sport fishery. Some of the factors suspected in the decline of the sport fishery were drought and resulting reduced water levels, hydrogen sulfide gas buildup, heavy algae blooms and eutrophication. Most water quality parameters were unfavorable but still within tolerance levels for trout (e.g. TDS (total dissolved solids) was 8,000 ppm and pH = 8.5) on April 27, 2010.
Run off from spring and early summer storms filled the lake in 2010 to over five vertical feet above its 2007 level. Water quality parameters from EPA sampling in the summer/fall of 2010 showed some improvement, the TDS on June 15, 2010 was 5,032 ppm and when measured on August 3, 2010 the TDS was 4,107 ppm. The improvement to water levels and water quality makes fish stocking feasible again, which is why 50,000 rainbow trout were stocked in 2011. Hopefully these fish survive and East Allen Lake becomes a productive fishery for anglers once again.
Thanks,
WGFDFishBioLaramie
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WY G&F Bio answered on page 3 of the related thread below :tipup:
LT, where is the Answer to this? I tried to find it but was unable to.
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LT, where is the Answer to this? I tried to find it but was unable to.
Off Topic Thread on the Main Site "Taking of Game/Survival Situation", reply #36 :tipup:
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Fishwhisperer307,
East Allen Lake was stocked in 2009 (10,000 cutthroat) and in 2011 (50,000 rainbow trout). Sampling in 2009 and spring 2010 documented the collapse of the sport fishery. Some of the factors suspected in the decline of the sport fishery were drought and resulting reduced water levels, hydrogen sulfide gas buildup, heavy algae blooms and eutrophication. Most water quality parameters were unfavorable but still within tolerance levels for trout (e.g. TDS (total dissolved solids) was 8,000 ppm and pH = 8.5) on April 27, 2010.
Run off from spring and early summer storms filled the lake in 2010 to over five vertical feet above its 2007 level. Water quality parameters from EPA sampling in the summer/fall of 2010 showed some improvement, the TDS on June 15, 2010 was 5,032 ppm and when measured on August 3, 2010 the TDS was 4,107 ppm. The improvement to water levels and water quality makes fish stocking feasible again, which is why 50,000 rainbow trout were stocked in 2011. Hopefully these fish survive and East Allen Lake becomes a productive fishery for anglers once again.
Thanks,
WGFDFishBioLaramie
thanks a bunch really appreciate what you guys do on this site
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can you tell me more about what is going on with Middle Depression Reservoir and if there going to have to do more to get it back to the fisher it was use to do well out there but it just seems to have gone down hill in the last few years
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can you tell me more about what is going on with Middle Depression Reservoir and if there going to have to do more to get it back to the fisher it was use to do well out there but it just seems to have gone down hill in the last few years
WyoFarmer and I ice-fshed it late in the season, lots of birds on the open water out there, but sheesh! Totally nasty, milky water. We just pulled up and re-located :-\
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went out there this weekend looked ok never got a bit thou throw lures the hole time
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How much is this year going to affect walleye populations in lakes around Wyoming such as Seminoe and Boysen since the BOR drastically dropped the water levels all spring during the spawn to absorb the massive runoff, since walleye are spring lake and river spawners?
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What is the status of Good's reservoir in Carbon County?
Thank you for any information.
Tumbleweed
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What is the status of Good's reservoir in Carbon County?
Thank you for any information.
Tumbleweed
Tumbleweed,
Good Reservoir #2 has been stocked almost annually and exclusively with brook trout since 1996. Periodic winterkills do occur and low average lengths in 1998 (12.1”) and 2003 (11.2”) may be attributable to winter or summerkills in this shallow reservoir. The last sampling event was in 2009, with the next sampling to occur in 2012. The large average length in 2009 (14.2”) indicated the reservoir had not suffered a winter or summer kill event since sampling in 2006. This reservoir is very comparable with the Plains Lakes in terms of productivity, as is evident from the very healthy fish. The lake is stocked annually with 1,500 brook trout. We do not get many reports from the reservoir, so I’m not sure if the lake survived the last couple of winters or not, but fish stocked annually grow rapidly.
Thanks,
WGFDLaramieFishBio
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Regarding the new walleye length regulations at Glendo:
I know that g&f wants anglers to keep the fish whole while transporting so that length can be measured. But, if while camping for a period of time (at Glendo) can you still fillet and freeze in your camper freezer? Or do you have to freeze them whole or gutted? Gutting and freezing and then filleting again when you thaw them seems like a pain to me. I have mostly been releasing everything, but would like to know how to be legal if we want take some home. Also, if we fillet and eat them at the lake, will we be cited for having fillets in the cooler an hour or so before dinner?
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Regarding the new walleye length regulations at Glendo:
I know that g&f wants anglers to keep the fish whole while transporting so that length can be measured. But, if while camping for a period of time (at Glendo) can you still fillet and freeze in your camper freezer? Or do you have to freeze them whole or gutted? Gutting and freezing and then filleting again when you thaw them seems like a pain to me. I have mostly been releasing everything, but would like to know how to be legal if we want take some home. Also, if we fillet and eat them at the lake, will we be cited for having fillets in the cooler an hour or so before dinner?
Good question. There has been a little confusion with this one. Page 28 in the Fishing Regulations states that:
"all walleye less than 15 must be released immediately"
"all walleye must be kept whole (gills and entrails may be removed) until the angler is off the water or ice and done fishing for the day"
"Once off the water or ice and done fishing for the day, walleye can be filleted for transportation and storage"
Heading back to your camper and extended camping at Glendo would be considered "storage", so you can fillet your walleye for storage in the freezer or for cooking dinner. The major thing that you must do is to leave an inch square of skin so that the fish can be identified by a warden (for possession limit purposes).
So, if your done fishing for the day, and back at your camper, the fish can be filleted, with a piece of skin for ID. If your not done fishing for the day, gut the fish, throw it on ice and fillet later. Remember that the daily limit is the same as the possession limit, 6 walleye.
Hope this helps.
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Unless I missed a reply, couple of us had a question about Middle Depression Reservoir, mine was why is the water so murky (10-inch visibility) at ice season? I think the question another member had was why no fish? Thanks
Don
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thanks LT for bringing this back up
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Welcome. We figgered it was the bird droppings going into the open water by the aerator, hundreds of geese and ducks...would be nice to know, might be enough to make us not go back there ::)
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i know it looked good a month or so back .
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OK, here's my question. Dad takes kids out lets say 4 kids, dad has his 2 poles set with lines in the water, kids each have a pole or 2 in the water. Dad is tending his poles kids are with in reasonable range. Then one of the kids poles gets a hit dad reaches for the pole sets the hook and gives the pole to the kid... Is dad illegal for fishing with to many rods? Same story on Tip ups dad walks through and de ices 24 tip up's dad busted for to many lines? Reason I am asking is my Father in law got a 150.00 fine in Utah for setting the hook on my 10 year old daughters pole and gave it to her to reel in... I thought it was chicken but then again is was Utah! I could understand if it was another adult but I want to know how this might play out in Wyoming.
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i will be going up to granite hot springs in a couple of weeks and would like to fish granite creek. i read the regs, i guess it is a little unclear to me but is that creek artificial flies and lures only or is it ok to use worms. the way i am reading it, it is ok to use worms. i wanted to make sure first though. thanks
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how the fish/fishing doing on the plains lakes? i heard a rumor they put broodstock in alsop is that true?
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Lots of good questions piling up that I'd like to hear see answers to.
Here's mine: What is unique about Seminoe as compared to the other reservoirs on the N. Platte that causes the algae bloom (oft referrred to as "turnover") every August? It doesn't appear to affect the fish or the fishing but makes water-sporting less than desireable for the kids!
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I don't know if this has ever been asked yet, but. Whats the growth rates on Bass in Wyoming?
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4X4 I asked a very similar question last year on Ice Shanty and got no reply from the G&F. I'm not sure they want to touch that one. My thinking on this is that strict rule of the law you would get busted, spirit of the law...and depending on the mood of the warden (or how you treat them) you might get some grace for helping a young-un or cleaning the ice out of your buddy's holes. All of the wardens I've dealt with are decent, but if they think you are up to no good then you're going to get it...which I agree with totally!!
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I know a elderly couple In Newcastle and she received a citation for fishing without a license. He husband is handicapped & wheel chair bound & had a license. She cast the line out (no license ) and handed the pole to her husband and the warden had no compassion for the husband being handicapped......wrote the citation in a heart beat.
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I'm curious on the condition of the stock put into springer reservoir. How are the fish growing?
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I'm curious on the condition of the stock put into springer reservoir. How are the fish growing?
HOOPA,
We are scheduled to evaluate the stocked fish in Springer and Bump this month, I will let you know what we find.
Thanks,
WGFDFishBioLaramie
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Has the game and fish found Yellow Perch in the Woodruff Narrows Reservoir (above Evanston, Wy).
I am hearing rumors of 12" perch coming from there.
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I'll just throw out another I am curious about:
How many Splake were stocked in North Crow Reservoir in 1999? Also how many in 2005?
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I'll just throw out another I am curious about:
How many Splake were stocked in North Crow Reservoir in 1999? Also how many in 2005?
GemCitySlayer,
Here is the splake stocking record for Upper North Crow Reservoir:
1999 7,000
2002 5,500
2005 2,500
2006 2,700
2007 2,700
2008 2,500
2009 2,400
2010 2,500
2011 2,500
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So whats the deal with sodergreen lake are they making repairs to the inlet or why did the drain most of the water?
And one last question when diamond lake north of laramie winterkilled why was it never restocked? just curious my dad told me it use be a pretty dang good fishery!
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I am also interested in knowing if diamond lake will ever become a fishery again?
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I was wondering if crow crick and Bear crick are considered part of the horse crick drainage? would it be legal to trap or Seine minnows on either one?
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I am also interested in knowing if diamond lake will ever become a fishery again?
So whats the deal with sodergreen lake are they making repairs to the inlet or why did the drain most of the water?
And one last question when diamond lake north of laramie winterkilled why was it never restocked? just curious my dad told me it use be a pretty dang good fishery!
Here is a link to iceshanty from March of last year when I asked about the status of diamond. http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=178333.100 (http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=178333.100)
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Brooke "trout" and Lake "trout" are both not trout at all. They are char. From the research I've done on the internet, if a fish does not have black spots (like rainbows, browns, cutts, etc) then it is a char.
How come are these fish still called trout in the fishing regulations? Just curious!
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Wyoming Youth Fishing Challenge would like to know about this and how to get all the paper work for my kids to get started on this , really like this idea
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What's up with all the water being let out of Glendo so early. I heard a rumor that they were going to put the plug back in and start putting water back in soon. Is that true?
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What's up with all the water being let out of Glendo so early. I heard a rumor that they were going to put the plug back in and start putting water back in soon. Is that true?
Most years, there is an early "hay run" to irrigate the alfalfa in eastern Wyoming and western Nebraska. This year has been real dry and the hay run was about a week early. They usually shut down the outflow after about three weeks, at which time Glendo usually refills until the start of regular irrigation season. The irrigation people own the water - we are lucky to just "borrow" the use of it for fishing.
(Don't be looking for "tree fishing" anytime soon - wish it wasn't so!)
Good fishing,
Keith
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The lake has dropped nearly 8 feet in elevation since late April. I heard there is a new "chief" at the BuRec. Hope he knows what he is doing. Maybe someone should tell him that there is not that great of snow pack and that once the water is down the river, it is down the river for good..... :-\
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Ok got a question. Around the campfire a question started with limits. In the regulations it states Trout 6 General Daily Creel & Possession Limits. So if we catch 6 Trout a day, for 3 days. Have a total of 18 fish in the cooler are we brakeing a rule/law. Possession limit was were the question came up. Now for me I only keep what I eat, but a great example was at the desmit derby. If I bring in two fish a day. One for weight and one for length. I'll have 6 fish total for the 3 days. Now if I catch a taged fish or different trout, example brown vs. rainbow. It would have pushed me over the Possession of 6 fish in three days. Due to no catch and release in the derby. Which made this question a good one.
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Are there still gizzard shad in Wheatland Reservoir 1? Are they reproducing?
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Are there still gizzard shad in Wheatland Reservoir 1? Are they reproducing?
Good question. This May we captured gizzard shad from Glendo and transplanted about 300 adults to Keyhole and 100 adults to Wheatland #1. Our goal of course is for them to reproduce and to provide good forage for game fish. I'm sure the Laramie crew will be checking later this summer to look for young shad (I'll be doing the same on Keyhole).
Hope this helps.
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Excellent. I had read in a newsletter from 2005 or 2006 I believe that mentioned the G/F had successfully planted 100 gizzard shad in there and they reproduced... providing excellent forage for the eyes and cats.
Here's to hoping they "take off"!
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Are there really grayling in goldeneye?
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Are lighted bobbers legal in wyoming for fishing at night?
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What can you (G/F) tell me about the shad population in Grayrocks?
I've fished this lake for 3-4 years now and every year, by about mid-august I see a lot of baitfish... Some of the baitfish swirls are baby drum, I got close enough to a big group that I could easily identify them... BUT....this last trip I saw a different shaped ball of baitfish and after casting into it I caught a bass that was puking up what were clearly threadfin shad minnows (1-2" long).
Couldn't believe it, but it was a welcome sight to see! Guess I'm just wondering when they were planted, how many survive the winter, how their #'s have shown up in nettings, etc.... is this the only lake in the state with Threadfin shad?
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I notice fish in the G&F survey pics being fairly large and killed in gillnets I suppose. Seems to me the G&F might be robbing a potential trophy fish from a license buying sportsman? Some of the lakes have very few large fish in them and I find it unfortunate that the G&F is placing fish killing gill nets to see what is in the lake, just ask the anglers or bait stores how the fishing has been, stop poachers, and leave our fish be. What would happen if the G&F started shooting trophy deer and elk from aircraft to study them in the name of wildlife biology? Sportsman have to buy a license and fish legally and I don't see why the G&F should have the right to fish any differently. Perhaps other states do the same, but does that make it correct? Perhaps I am jumping to conclusions so I thought I would ask the G&F what percentage of the fish netted or trapped die? I have caught thousands of walleyes and am still waiting to boat one over 9lbs (dumb luck I guess). I understand how difficult and what an accomplishment it is to catch a large trophy fish and hate to see even one trophy gillnetted for an inspection that will probably give data that is already known by local fishermen.
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I'm not a biologist, but in all the netting I've done I would say less than 5% of fish in gill nets are dead. The number of trophy fish caught in them is very small, I only remember 2 in four months of work (both were released unharmed) Creel data is used and is very important, but the data collected has limitations. To truly know how a water is fairing and make management decisions, netting is really the only option.
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I notice fish in the G&F survey pics being fairly large and killed in gillnets I suppose. Seems to me the G&F might be robbing a potential trophy fish from a license buying sportsman? Some of the lakes have very few large fish in them and I find it unfortunate that the G&F is placing fish killing gill nets to see what is in the lake, just ask the anglers or bait stores how the fishing has been, stop poachers, and leave our fish be. What would happen if the G&F started shooting trophy deer and elk from aircraft to study them in the name of wildlife biology? Sportsman have to buy a license and fish legally and I don't see why the G&F should have the right to fish any differently. Perhaps other states do the same, but does that make it correct? Perhaps I am jumping to conclusions so I thought I would ask the G&F what percentage of the fish netted or trapped die? I have caught thousands of walleyes and am still waiting to boat one over 9lbs (dumb luck I guess). I understand how difficult and what an accomplishment it is to catch a large trophy fish and hate to see even one trophy gillnetted for an inspection that will probably give data that is already known by local fishermen.
I'm sorry that you feel this way and that you have a poor attitude towards G&F. I too hate seeing a large fish get killed in one of our gill nets. Without gill netting however, we would have no clue as to how the fish are doing. Without gill netting, we would not be able to make any necessary management changes. There is a ton of data that we can collect from a few nets that an angler or a bait shop owner can't tell us.
For example, this week I gill netted Keyhole Reservoir. We take length and weight measurements, which in-turn generate what is called relative weight (a measure of fish "plumpness" or fish health, a fat fish generally is healthy, skinny not so much). Walleye that happen to die in our nets we age by taking out the their otoliths (an inner ear bone that shows rings like a tree). I use this data to gather a snapshot of the age structure of the population (lots of old fish?, lots of young fish? or a good mix of both). We also identify what fish have been foraging on by cutting open the bellies of walleye that died in our nets. This gives a good indication of the forage within the reservoir that is often difficult to capture ourselves.
We do other netting like trap nets, which are a nonlethal way to collect fish samples. In the spring we use nighttime electrofishing to gain samples, and again nonlethal.
Gill netting allows us to sample everything, fish that anglers don't target, such as carp, carp suckers, catfish, perch, and drum.
Like I mentioned earlier, I don't like to see big trophies die in our nets either, but every fish in one of our nets tells a story as to how that fishery is doing. When fisherman mention that they don't like the fact that we use gill nets to collect fish I bring up the analogy of checking your car's engine oil. You pull out the dipstick, wipe off the oil, and do that two or three times before you are assured your oil level is good. That oil never goes back into your motor, but at the same time, it doesn't hurt your motor. Same with our sampling, we take out a few fish, but it doesn't hurt the fishery.
On a lighter note. Have you ever known a fisherman or a bait shop owner to tell the 100% truth about the fishing or a fish they caught? Our netting doesn't lie.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the reply! and please don't consider my question and statements as a poor attitude towards G&F, only needing answers. I have used netting data collected for many years on many lakes and have to admit I like the G&F reports, I was just curious after encountering nets while wanting to fish a point and the question popped up in my mind, how many fish will be missing from this point the next time I fish and is it all necessary? I don't prefer the analogy of comparing fish to oil over the one about killing trophy big game to collect data ??? Although I agree it doesn't hurt the fishery, a 10lb walleye or 30" brown could be considered as much a trophy as a 6pt bull or 30" muley. That being said perhaps the data is implemented to improve the fishery, but I am not sure what is done with data always helps a fishery, i guess that would vary greatly, for instance I find it odd that the park is spending a lot of money trying to save the cuttthroat by removing lake trout, so now sportsman are being left with less of both. Wildlife biology again perhaps taking more away from sportsman than giving back. What if the G&F started killing desmet walleyes because of an opinion that walleyes do not belong along side another non-native fish (rainbow) or worse decided only cutts should be in desmet? Overall the G&F ranks highly on my opinion of other state agencies (and none of them could be expected to be perfect) and the fishing is great in WY! guess I just like stirring the pot to understand things better. What are you talking about, anglers never lie ::)
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I have watched Game and Fish put nets in Boysen in spots that make no sense. Suspended in deep water in the spring. I pulled one and found it full of DEAD carp. I believe that G&F has mostly cold water biologist and they do not understand warm water fisheries or probably fishermen. Nets dropped randomly in random lakes will give random data. Where is the science?
I shouldn't spend my time responding to this, apparently we don't know anything anyway. First off, you should never pull one of our nets. They are set for a purpose. Second, we set nets in different places to target certain species certain times of the year. Every net has a purpose. Third, we understand warm water fish and fisheries just fine. Fourth, If we set nets on every obvious spot to catch say walleye, I'd get yelled at for ruining some fishermans favorite spot. So in a lot of cases we try to stay away from the "good fishing holes", but yet still get good data. Fifth, we tend to look at the long-term trend data, so a spot may be random, but if we sample in those same spots every year, it is no longer random and they produce good long-term data sets that help us to make good sound (not random) management decisions.
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WYO Game and fish.
When was the last time the game and fish stocked brown trout in North Crow Reservoir? How many get stocked annually?
Any chance we could see some tiger trout in there one day?
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And another (?):
Could we get individual cutthroat state records (Bonneville, Bear river, Snake River, Yellowstone, etc)? Seems like it would be a lot better than just having a generic cutthroat state record.
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Game and Fish:
I had a question about Bighorn reservoir. I have heard that Wyoming does not stock walleye in this lake anymore and that this is being managed as a sauger fishery. Over the last 4 years I have caught only two walleye, both large, older fish, compared to probably over 150 sauger. The sauger are big and great looking fish. I was wondering what your counts show as far as walleye in the Wyoming end of Yellowtail. I guess part of me misses the days of having a chance at catching a monster walleye. Maybe they are still there? Also I have heard rumors of a Triploid Strain of walleye possibly going to be stocked in yellowtail? Any truth to that? Thanks.
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I'm curious on the condition of the stock put into springer reservoir. How are the fish growing?
Dear HOOPA,
Sorry for the delayed response, but response is better than none. We did sample Springer and Bump/Sullivan reservoirs this spring (April 2012) to check on fish that have been stocked since 2010. In Springer, since 2010, walleye, largemouth bass, and channel catfish have been stocked. In Bump, since 2010, black crappie, bluegill, largemouth bass, and channel catfish have been stocked. Most reservoirs out in that country are connected, so there are other species present as well such as yellow perch, green sunfish and others.
Springer Reservoir: WAE are stocked as fingerlings, up to 3 inches, we captured walleye that ranged in length from 13 to 21 inches in Springer and black crappie from 4-9 inches, and yellow perch from 7-9.
Bump: crappie and bluegill are stocked at a slightly smaller size than walleye. We captured black crappie from 6-7 inches, bluegill around 5 inches.
We have plans to sample these reservoirs again in 2013. Both were drawn down for irrigation this summer, but hopefully the fish can make it through the winter and we can get them filled with a good runoff of water in 2013.
Thanks,
WGFDFishBioLaramie
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What can you (G/F) tell me about the shad population in Grayrocks?
I've fished this lake for 3-4 years now and every year, by about mid-august I see a lot of baitfish... Some of the baitfish swirls are baby drum, I got close enough to a big group that I could easily identify them... BUT....this last trip I saw a different shaped ball of baitfish and after casting into it I caught a bass that was puking up what were clearly threadfin shad minnows (1-2" long).
Couldn't believe it, but it was a welcome sight to see! Guess I'm just wondering when they were planted, how many survive the winter, how their #'s have shown up in nettings, etc.... is this the only lake in the state with Threadfin shad?
Dear GemCitySlayer,
Gizzard shad were first stocked into Grayrocks Reservoir in 1981, they were then stocked for a few more years after, and since then they have been reproducing naturally. The population can fluctuate from year to year dependent on a number of variables, such as water levels and winter temperatures. The large swarms of baitfish you are observing are most likely spottail shiners, which were first introduced into the reservoir in 1982, and just like gizzard shad, have been reproducing on their own ever since. There are no records of threadfin shad being introduced into the reservoir. If you feel like you really did observe threadfin shad, please collect one next time, and bring it on by the Laramie Office for ID. The gizzard shad and spottail populations have really increased over the last 3-4 years with the welcomed addition of water.
Thanks,
WGFDFishBioLaramie
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I am also interested in knowing if diamond lake will ever become a fishery again?
Dear mobilerat,
Diamond Lake was last stocked with fish in 2001 and since that time the lake has not been stocked due to very low water levels. Due to a variety of reasons, water does not flow into Diamond Lake like it had in the past. Water is a very important and expensive commodity, but we are constantly looking for ways to bring Diamond Lake back to life.
Thanks,
WGFDFishBioLaramie
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WYO Game and fish.
When was the last time the game and fish stocked brown trout in North Crow Reservoir? How many get stocked annually?
Any chance we could see some tiger trout in there one day?
Dear GemCitySlayer,
Brown trout were last stocked in Upper North Crow Reservoir in 2005, when 2,542 were stocked at about 3-4 inches. These brown trout have done extremely well and we have been seeing a fair number in our sampling well over 20 inches. We don't stock brown trout annually, they are long lived and our main annually stocked predator are splake. We will stock brown trout again in the near future so they continue to provide diversity and a trophy opportunity at Upper North Crow Reservoir.
Thanks,
WGFDFishBioLaramie
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I was fishing at N. Crow this spring and had a 20"+ brown trout follow me in... I thought I was crazy because I had never heard of them being stocked in there but that explains it...
Thanks for the heads up.
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Dear GemCitySlayer,
Gizzard shad were first stocked into Grayrocks Reservoir in 1981, they were then stocked for a few more years after, and since then they have been reproducing naturally. The population can fluctuate from year to year dependent on a number of variables, such as water levels and winter temperatures. The large swarms of baitfish you are observing are most likely spottail shiners, which were first introduced into the reservoir in 1982, and just like gizzard shad, have been reproducing on their own ever since. There are no records of threadfin shad being introduced into the reservoir. If you feel like you really did observe threadfin shad, please collect one next time, and bring it on by the Laramie Office for ID. The gizzard shad and spottail populations have really increased over the last 3-4 years with the welcomed addition of water.
Thanks,
WGFDFishBioLaramie
It was probably gizzard shad and I just guessed wrong. Thanks for the information, you guys are great. This "Ask the Wyoming Game and Fish" is the best part of this forum!!!
I had thought for a long time that there were too many mouths to feed in Grayrocks and not enough forage species. But between the carp and drum and shiners and shad (perch too)... that is quite a bit of food!
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What happen to Gellatt?
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Pretty sure Gellett winter killed...
Wyoming Game and Fish,
What are the chances of getting some differing species in some of the lakes around Laramie such as pike, walleye, croppie, etc...?
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What happen to Gellatt?
Dear cspencer,
Gelatt Lake has no natural reproducation and is stocked annually to create a quality sport fishery for anglers. The aeration system at Gelatt Lake had overwintered the lake for 6 consecutive years and sampling in 2012 indicated an average length of 18.7 inches for rainbow trout. The largest rainbow trout seen during sampling in 2012 was 25 inches and 8.4 pounds, but of course there were larger fish caught than that in 2012 by anglers. Over the last two years we have taken water quality measurements monthly before ice, during ice, and right after ice-off to monitor dissolved oxygen, pH, and other water quality parameters. In the winter of 2011/2012, the oxygen levels approached 0 in late January, but nettting indicated overwinter survival. This winter 2012/2013 the same patterned occured with oxygen levels reaching 0 in mid-January. However, no fish were caught during netting this spring and dead fish were observed at the lake. This pattern of low oxygen levels in late January is most likely a result of vegetation dying off and this probably occurs annually. Our sampling is but just a snapshot of the fishery, so when we do not catch fish it doesn't necessarily mean they are not there. The good news is that on this site, someone reported that their friend had caught a large trout this spring at Gelatt. In addition, Gelatt Lake has already been stocked and the 7-inch trout stocked this April will be 12 inches in June and over 16 inches by September.
Thanks,
WGFDFishBioLaramie
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Pretty sure Gellett winter killed...
Wyoming Game and Fish,
What are the chances of getting some differing species in some of the lakes around Laramie such as pike, walleye, croppie, etc...?
Dear wyopro,
Laramie sits at an elevation that make waters around Laramie at the very fringe for the species you mentioned. Water temperatures, short growing season, etc. for these warm/cool water fish make Laramie an inhospitable environment. Although we do have some waters with species like yellow perch, like Hattie, Granite, near Laramie, most of the waters around Laramie are managed as trout fisheries, either stocked or wild. More appropriate habitat for these species is found in waters around Wheatland, Torrington, and Cheyenne. You can find crappie in Festo Lake, Grayrocks Reservoir, Hawk Springs Reservoir, Bump Sullivan Reservoir, Packers Lake to name a few. You can fish for walleye at Grayrocks Reservoir, Hawk Springs Reservoir, Springer Reservoir, Packers Lake, Rock Lake, Wheatland Reservoir #1. We don't have any pike waters in the Laramie Region, but about 4,800 tiger muskie were stocked into Grayrocks Reservoir in 2012. The addition of any of the species you mentioned, especially pike, to waters around Laramie like Hattie or Twin Buttes, would make managing them as quality trout fisheries difficult. If you would like to discuss this further, please stop by the Laramie Office and ask of one of the fisheries biologists. We would be happy to answer additional questions about this or anything else related to the management of your waters.
Thanks,
WGFDFishBioLaramie
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Could we potentially see alabama rigs made legal?
They are commonly called A-rigs. Do a simple google search if you have never seen one. It's a way to fish 5-6 swimbaits all on one rig. I know it breaks the current # of hooks allowed on a lure but maybe that law could be changed?
It was invented in the south I believe and a lot of other states have legalized them... or allowed them in the first place. I think it would be a fun way to fish for smallies and walleyes... I don't really see the harm in them.
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I've use the "A" rig and just use 3 swim baits and two blades. So far I've caught 1 walleye , one northern and several small mouth in Keyhole. You have got to use heavy line and they are heavy to cast for any length of time. Plying with the idea of trolling them a bit.
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Yeah I've thought of running one the way you did. But it would be nice if we could use 5-6 swimbaits.
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Could we potentially see alabama rigs made legal?
They are commonly called A-rigs. Do a simple google search if you have never seen one. It's a way to fish 5-6 swimbaits all on one rig. I know it breaks the current # of hooks allowed on a lure but maybe that law could be changed?
It was invented in the south I believe and a lot of other states have legalized them... or allowed them in the first place. I think it would be a fun way to fish for smallies and walleyes... I don't really see the harm in them.
We have talked about the Alabama rig here at the office. Our discussion pretty much came to the point that at long as you didn't have more than 3 hooks, you would be OK. I would think you could still fish with 5 or 6 baits, as long as only 3 had hooks. So you could rig something up with 2 or 3 "false" baits with no hooks and 3 of the baits with hooks.
Hope this helps.
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When the waters start warming and the fish start spawning and we get a cold spell like we have had for a couple weeks does it effect the hatch in any way?
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We have talked about the Alabama rig here at the office. Our discussion pretty much came to the point that at long as you didn't have more than 3 hooks, you would be OK. I would think you could still fish with 5 or 6 baits, as long as only 3 had hooks. So you could rig something up with 2 or 3 "false" baits with no hooks and 3 of the baits with hooks.
Hope this helps.
I've considered doing that as well. I guess I just don't understand what 2 more hooks could harm? Other than the current regs. But maybe you could just stay 3 total hooks or 5 total on alabama rigs. It won't be a big deal if I can't use one just don't really see the harm in a 5 hook or 6 hook bama rig. As was mentioned they are very heavy and require heavy duty rods to throw... I doubt many anglers would even use them.
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I was wondering if you can put a boat on meadowlark lake up in the bighorns and if so is there a boat ramp of any kind?
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Yes there are two boat ramps on Meadowlark. One is thru the motel bar area...mayne private and one that for sure is public on the north west side of the lake. ;D
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The water at Twin Buttes appeared very off-color the few times that I went there last year. A friend said he saw the same "dirty" water this year. No luck fishing it, either. Yet, Regional Reports indicated that the fish population had come back. Has something happened? During productive years the lake was very clear as I remember it.
s
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A new tiger trout fishery was created yesterday in Wyoming through the efforts of WGFD Fish Culturists and Biologists as 8,000 5-inch tiger trout were stocked into East Allen Lake for the first time. East Allen Lake is located near Medicine Bow, WY and is also stocked with rainbow and cutthroat trout annually. The lake has abundant prey resources for tiger trout and the hope is that these fish will thrive in their new home.
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To the Laramie crew, please post signs that are clearly visible that NO FIRES are allowed at Twin Buttes any longer. Your warden Bill Haley gave me a hard time yesterday- yet there are no signs stating this except for one on the east end of the lake that is not
visible unless you drive out of the way to accidentally find it. Pretty sad... there are no fire restrictions in Albany county yet it appears this lake is permanently off limits to them now.
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Are walleye being stocked in De Smet?
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Are walleye being stocked in De Smet?
only illegally, the game and fish have been taking eyes from desmet and putting them in Healy though
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Who does repairs to boat ramps? The one at half moon is in need of repairs.
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Who does repairs to boat ramps? The one at half moon is in need of repairs.
Most of the finger lakes around Pinedale are on Forest Service or BLM. They have been improving them in cooperation with WGFD over time (New Fork, Willow Boulder, and soon Sylvan Bay on Fremont) but most still are only easy to use when the lakes are at peak full. Lots of the ramps are so short that when the water drops after runoff, your trailer wheels go off the cement.
I fished Halfmoon on June 2 and saw 4 other boats all day on a bluebird Sunday. I am willing to put up with a shi**y ramp to be on a beautiful lake with such solitude. Most places in the US there are lines to launch your boat!!!!
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Posted this on Ice Shanty as well. Local Game Warden stated any lure that gives off light after being charged by sun or flashlight electric or glow-in-the-dark is not legal to fish with in Wyoming. "HELP" No more Glow tubes to fish for Lakers?
http://trib.com/lifestyles/recreation/wyoming-game-and-fish-may-update-several-fishing-regulations/article_3ae0938e-8b4d-50c6-a095-9fa49730d0f6.html
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Posted this on Ice Shanty as well. Local Game Warden stated any lure that gives off light after being charged by sun or flashlight electric or glow-in-the-dark is not legal to fish with in Wyoming. "HELP" No more Glow tubes to fish for Lakers?
http://trib.com/lifestyles/recreation/wyoming-game-and-fish-may-update-several-fishing-regulations/article_3ae0938e-8b4d-50c6-a095-9fa49730d0f6.html
In the article you attached to your post it explains the situation pretty good. The way I read it is right now if you are "charging" your terminal tackle with artificial light, like a flash light it would be illegal to use. G&F is in the process of addressing this issue and changing a fishing regulation is an involved process and certain steps have to be taken in order for the regulation to be valid.
Anyone else read something different in the article?
ClearCreek
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To clarify he stated, even if it is charged by the sun and gives off artificial light underwater it is not legal to fish with. He quoted page 6 under METHODS "No person shall use an artificial light with the sole purpose of aiding in the attraction or taking of fish." Glow-in-the-dark is artificial light in his opinion.
Thanks to the WYGF and their further work on making things more understandable.
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OK I got one. Why is it allowed to use minnows from Section B on Glendo But you can't use Section A on Alcova. Regulations state that you can use minnows from Section A and B on Glendo But you can move up. Is it disease but your transporting minnows down stream to a new water area. Why can't you transport them up the river same difference. ???
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When was the last time catfish were stocked into Hawk Springs. Are there any baitfish in there?
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Had anyone seen they're return for unsuccessful drawing on moose and sheep? I'm afraid I may have thrown mine away.........has anyone got their return yet?
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My wife doesn't care about fish, but she likes to drive the boat. When I am trolling with two outfits in use does she need to have a fishing licence? A fellow told me if she is driving, she's fishing....... Thanks
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Are they filling Hattie if so how full is it. You would think with all the flooding they would fill Hattie
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Who is the contractor that is cleaning Ocean and Bass Lake? If we could have that number when there is an issue with the areas we could call them direct. Also since the pack out what you pack in rule isn't working how about a bunch of trash receptacles. My wife and I usually fill the sacks we bring. Lately our truck is not large enough.
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What species of fish are in High Savery reservoir?
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What's going on at High Savery? I keep hearing rumors that the water quality has gone down hill due to rotting sage brush....?
Any truth to these rumors or is this just an excuse for poor fishing?
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I hear a rumor that Glendo is going to get drained way down. Is this true? If so, do you know the reason/s why? thanks in advance
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WYGF days are getting shorter and thoughts are turning to burbot fishing. Just want to know if there has been any decisions on the use of the Glow-in-the-dark lures, jigs and baits. Companies will be introducing their Ice Fishing supplies soon and looking for the next big thing to use. ???
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WYGF days are getting shorter and thoughts are turning to burbot fishing. Just want to know if there has been any decisions on the use of the Glow-in-the-dark lures, jigs and baits. Companies will be introducing their Ice Fishing supplies soon and looking for the next big thing to use. ???
I believe you are good to go with the glow lures now. An update to regs came out with hook counts, corn, glow jigs, artificial light, and smallmouth slot limits on Grayrocks.
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I believe you are good to go with the glow lures now. An update to regs came out with hook counts, corn, glow jigs, artificial light, and smallmouth slot limits on Grayrocks.
Monarch:
I think the hook counts reg came out a couple years ago, but the corn, artificial light (includes glow jigs), smallmouth bass limits at Grayrocks, and importation of bait minnows by licensed bait dealers became effective January 1, 2015.
ClearCreek
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Yep.
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Is there a website or where can I find out when lakes will be or gets stocked?
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I read about hawksprings in the regional angler newsletter. It stated that there are several sizes of walleye in there. Has there been a study on availability of food in the lake and any consideration of introducing baitfish?
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healy says nothing over 15hp. my boat has 90hp main motor 8hp kicker and electric troller can i launch on healy and use only the small motors?
someone in healy thread says thats ok but would like a confirmation from G&F first just to be safe.
thanks, clint
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healy says nothing over 15hp. my boat has 90hp main motor 8hp kicker and electric troller can i launch on healy and use only the small motors?
someone in healy thread says thats ok but would like a confirmation from G&F first just to be safe.
thanks, clint
That is correct. You may launch a boat with a bigger motor, but you can only use the smaller motors under 15HP.
Andrew
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thank you very much for quick and precise reply.
clint
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???I 've just read the short announcement on the Game & Fish website regarding rule changes @ Greyrocks. I camp there often and being how it can be a long way to the pit toilets provided I use my registered & plated ATV to get there. Do the new rules target these vehicles also or just the non-plated off road vehicles? Also, where can a person access a copy of these new rules? I want to thank the department for doing a tough and sometimes thankless job but frankly I can't see how restricting camping duration to one week is going to relieve any weekend crowding issues. The reasoning behind that rule change eludes me and any enlightenment into the thought processes behind it would be appreciated. Thanks :-\
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???I 've just read the short announcement on the Game & Fish website regarding rule changes @ Greyrocks. I camp there often and being how it can be a long way to the pit toilets provided I use my registered & plated ATV to get there. Do the new rules target these vehicles also or just the non-plated off road vehicles? Also, where can a person access a copy of these new rules? I want to thank the department for doing a tough and sometimes thankless job but frankly I can't see how restricting camping duration to one week is going to relieve any weekend crowding issues. The reasoning behind that rule change eludes me and any enlightenment into the thought processes behind it would be appreciated. Thanks :-\
Licensed and registered atv/utvs are still legal on designated roadways only. You have azzwipes that trespassed on the southside of the hwy to thank for the new regulations.
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Well said Monarch!!!!
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Don't think it had anything to do with people trespassing on the south side of the highway. Think it has more to do with just the sheer number of people who camp out there now. On a busy weekend there are hundreds and hundreds of people out there. They bring all of their "toys" out and think they can use them off the roads and zip around all over the camp areas. From the news release I read they were worried about vehicle accidents increasing.
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I have a quick question that is unclear to me after reading the regulations. I recently acquired an old 11 1/2 ft aluminum boat that I plan to run my old antique outboard motors on. My question is this; do I need a fire extinguisher on board if the motors have the tanks built in i.e. not an external portable fuel tank that would be laying in the floor of the boat? What about if I do use a motor with a tank in the boat? I seem to remember someone getting a ticket for not having one on a drift boat when they were running a newer 9.9 on the back with a tank in the boat. This section of the handbook is a little vague in my opinion. I already went down to the local game and fish office and asked the lady at the front desk but she had to look it up so I am not trusting her 100% yet. Here is what is in the handbook:
All boats with inboard engines, compartments where fuel tanks or combustible material may be stored; double bottoms not sealed to hull; closed living spaces; or permanently installed fuel tanks must have the proper fire extinguisher(s).
So since I have no "compartments where combustible material may be stored" am I good without? Or is that there way of describing a portable fuel tank?
Thanks for the help, I just want to make sure I am legal.
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I was told by the Warden at Alcova that I needed a fire extinguisher in my aluminum jon boat. It has outboard with portable tank in boat.
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Unless the law changed which I don't think it has, a Fire extinguisher is not required in a Jon boat with a portable gas tank.
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??? Hmmmm.......I've installed two hatch covers in the outboard sections of the middle seat in my 1442 Alumacraft Jon. Battery in the port and stuff like jackets and gloves in the starboard side. A feller could probably burn that old down jacket if ya wanted. Ya think this could be construed as combustible material?
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Can the cutt slam qualifiers be caught anywhere in the state, or do they have to be caught in their original native ranges per the map on the game and fish website? Asking because I caught a Snake River Cutthroat on the Grey Reef section of the Platte. Thank you.
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Can the cutt slam qualifiers be caught anywhere in the state, or do they have to be caught in their original native ranges per the map on the game and fish website? Asking because I caught a Snake River Cutthroat on the Grey Reef section of the Platte. Thank you.
They do need to be caught in their native range....the original idea behind the cuttslam was to get people excited about catching wild trout in their native range...
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I posted this on Ice Shanty, and now that I found this site I'm doing a cross-post
In looking at the 2017 Regs I see that trout beads can now be used above a bare hook, as well as a above an artificial fly (above meaning 2" or less from the eye of the hook), and further the Regs state that a trout bead used with a bare hook is considered an artificial lure in the same category as a jig, spoon, spinner etc. Within the definition for artificial lures the Regs state: "artificial flies and lures do not include living or dead organisms or edible parts thereof, natural or prepared organic food stuffs, or chemical attractants". I'm thinking this is to further clarify the interpretation/definition of "artificial" when the lure itself is manufactured..., but I have a question below:
Q: Provided one is not fishing in an artificial only area of water... Does this mean that a bare hook, with properly positioned trout bead can't be tipped with any type of bait like is common when jigging or trolling with a spoon or spinner?
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I posted this on Ice Shanty, and now that I found this site I'm doing a cross-post
In looking at the 2017 Regs I see that trout beads can now be used above a bare hook, as well as a above an artificial fly (above meaning 2" or less from the eye of the hook), and further the Regs state that a trout bead used with a bare hook is considered an artificial lure in the same category as a jig, spoon, spinner etc. Within the definition for artificial lures the Regs state: "artificial flies and lures do not include living or dead organisms or edible parts thereof, natural or prepared organic food stuffs, or chemical attractants". I'm thinking this is to further clarify the interpretation/definition of "artificial" when the lure itself is manufactured..., but I have a question below:
Q: Provided one is not fishing in an artificial only area of water... Does this mean that a bare hook, with properly positioned trout bead can't be tipped with any type of bait like is common when jigging or trolling with a spoon or spinner?
If you're not fishing an "Artificial Only" water, that means you can use bait, thus you can tip your hooks with any legal bait for that water. Regardless if you want to use a bead or not. You are correct, the statements above were for clarification of beading and artificial.
Hope this helped
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Thanks so much for the clarification.
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just a quick question to start this thread off again, but would there be any plans to have small mouth bass stocked anywhere around Riverton, like Ocean lake, I think it would be cool to have these fish around here to chase along with the other species that we have here. Thanks for the input.