SUPERX2 - Ease up with yourself dude. I'm one of those 'stupid' people that has waded out to the solid ice on occasion. When we wade out we're going out 10 yds. or so through water 2 ft. deep tops. The ice we've gotten on to is at least a foot thick. Nothing stupid or unsafe about it. Even if the shoreline was to erode more, when we were out fishing, we know the area and could wade back in as its shallow for a long ways. Every situation is different. The 'stupid' people are the ones that take chances on ice that they know is bad.