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My Fish Finder Main => General Fishing Discussion => Topic started by: bassin212 on Jun 19, 2019, 03:15 PM
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For as long as I can remember I've tied up all my leaders and such on my bass rods and then kept them in the bed of my truck (which has a tonneau cover) and I keep my fishing line in a pocket in backpack (out of the sun) in the cab of my truck. Recently I have been using Berkley Vanish and it's almost like even though the line isn't in direct sunlight, the heat is making it brittle? is that a thing? I can't remember it happening until I started using Berkley Vanish. I mean, don't guys keep line in their boats and rod lockers without a problem? I'm not sure if it's the line i'm buying or how I'm storing it.
Anyone ever experience this? Makes a simple lure change and knot tie a PITA because I've got it do it about 15 times. At first I thought it was that I needed a new leader, but even line fresh off the Berkley Spool won't hold a decent knot.
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Its garbage. Ive never liked it for that reason.
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Berkley vanish will make your fish and lures disappear... ;) Ask Herb. ::)
Put it on several rods with different pound test years ago one spring and it was all replaced half way through the summer...
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I tried Vanish long ago and didn’t care for it either
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I’m with everyone else. Tried it, hated it, and have never looked back.
I like P-Line a lot. There flouro has been great for me and way cheaper than seaguar.
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good to know, trash it goes!
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Agree with the others. The Vanish is junk and it's not even cheap.
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Pline is alright. Ive done seasons with only mono leader and seasons with flouro and noticed no discernable differences in catch rates. Yet I buy the flouro because its expensive and makes me feel good about myself! ;D
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I use P-line Flouro Coated , and for jigging trans optic for leaders ,it has always done the job , and it is responsibly priced
But that’s why there are so many choices Jon
So we all can feel warm and fuzzy while fishing 😜
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Ive used that stuff too Fred. Works just fine. Flouro clear I think its called?
Don't start talking about braid...Ive tried ALL the brands.
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Yep Floroclear
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Don't start talking about braid...Ive tried ALL the brands.
What about that Spiderwire transparent braid? I got a new Curado K baitcaster coming in the mail tomorrow and was thinking of trying that stuff for braid. I usually use PowerPro. The Spiderwire is cheap so even if it doesn't last long I can spool it twice for the cost of PowerPro.
Sorry about the thread hyjack.
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don't be! i got the answer I needed, Vanish sucks!
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Jethro check out bass pro they were running 50% off on power pro spectra , and super slick 8 V2
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Pline is alright. Ive done seasons with only mono leader and seasons with flouro and noticed no discernable differences in catch rates. Yet I buy the flouro because its expensive and makes me feel good about myself! ;D
I also tried it and give it a thumbs down like many others here.
A few things to consider when using Mono vs Flouro for leaders or full spool. Mono has more stretch AND will sink slower than flouro. Knowing when to use one over the other can make a difference depending on the scenario and species. Flouro also has a better abrasion resistance. If you can think of times where you watch your line for a bite, you know what I mean. Every advantage you can utilize will ultimately help in your overall success.
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I only really see flouro sink in 50 and 60# breaking strengths where its affected the action of my plugs.
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I only really see flouro sink in 50 and 60# breaking strengths where its affected the action of my plugs.
Try 4lb test comparison in a slower stream Jon. The mono stays on the surface while the flouro does not. ;)
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Try 4lb test comparison in a slower stream Jon. The mono stays on the surface while the flouro does not. ;)
Mike I have been doing that test ever since flouro came out and this is with 3.4, 5.7, 8.7 pound test...If that were the case my dries (sometimes as small as #20). Would sink. Lots of info on this in the trout world where we use flouro for dries just because it will break the surface film but goes no deeper. Nylon floats on the surface film and from underneath is very visible. This sinking flouro debate has been around for a long time...and the answers exist in their true form if you look for them in the right spots. 50 and 60 though can pull the nose of a popper down.
Trust me I wish it sank like people think it would make my nymphing better. If you believe it does go fill the tub cut a 20" section and throw it in. For every minute it floats I want 2 bucks. I hope you have deep pockets!!!
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Jon I don't disagree with you when applying that to fly fishing. However I am talking about dead drifting a crawler with nothing but a hook. For whatever reason I can get the crawler deeper because I can get it to sink slightly faster with flouro over mono to get into those pockets. However, when the river runs low I prefer mono as I can visually see the bite before feeling it and it runs higher for me. Side drifting that crawler under branches proved that to me time and time again where one will hang me up and the other will not. Maybe it's just me but it works well.
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Ok that's an interesting anecdote and we can take then fly fishing out of the equation...Like I said if you want the truth...take a 20" piece of mono and flouro and throw them in the tub. Tell me when the flouro hits the bottom. ;)
Now if I had to sell the stuff for a living you bet my box will have some of the same differentiators listed. More abrasion resistance, sinks, bla bla bla. Thats how guys like me get the warm fuzzy about spending 4x as much.
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Going off topic a bit, but....
I would think flouro of similar lb test would always have a smaller diameter. In that case it makes sense that with a worm it would get lower in a river current than a thicker mono line of the same on test, wouldn’t it?
I have always used flouro for its small diameter when trolling/ice fishing, or when abrasion strength and line stretch are a factor. Never thought about sink rate when fly fishing, and I have a tub (but not deep pockets) so...
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Generally yes. Definitely yes with the expensive stuff. Depends on the brand wiggles. People have gauged cheaper flouro with micrometers and found varying thicknesses on the same spool.
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Generally yes. Definitely yes with the expensive stuff. Depends on the brand wiggles. People have gauged cheaper flouro with micrometers and found varying thicknesses on the same spool.
Just like perfect tapered leader!
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Its garbage. Ive never liked it for that reason.
This... I use Ande tournament, my rods stay in the truck all summer, no issues... I tried vanish years ago.Hayed it ..I use it to teach kids how to tie knots. .it's all its good for.
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Ive used that stuff too Fred. Works just fine. Flouro clear I think its called?
Don't start talking about braid...Ive tried ALL the brands.
You and me both, tried all kinds of braid, despise it for everything but straight up and down deep jigging.
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This... I use Ande tournament, my rods stay in the truck all summer, no issues... I tried vanish years ago.Hayed it ..I use it to teach kids how to tie knots. .it's all its good for.
Used the ande tournament over flouro for quite some time for leaders when surfcasting. Its legit stuff! I can't count how many huge stripers have cut my braid like it didnt exist. Trade off for distance I suppose.
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Just like perfect tapered leader!
There is no such thing as the perfect tapered leader. Their only benefit is turning a fly over and getting easy sales from those who can only handle a loop to loop connection. I tossed all of them in the garbage and build my own using either maxima chameleon or OPST lazar spey line. If you need some built Mike let me know and Ill make you a rig!
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There is no such thing as the perfect tapered leader. Their only benefit is turning a fly over and getting easy sales from those who can only handle a loop to loop connection. I tossed all of them in the garbage and build my own using either maxima chameleon or OPST lazar spey line. If you need some built Mike let me know and Ill make you a rig!
Thanks buddy I appreciate it! You do far more fly fishing than I do that's for sure. My buddy Mike can tie some mean flies so he is my go to if I need any. I have a pile of fly tying material I picked up from CL for $300. I valued it well over 1K and haven't got to tying yet.
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Thanks buddy I appreciate it! You do far more fly fishing than I do that's for sure. My buddy Mike can tie some mean flies so he is my go to if I need any. I have a pile of fly tying material I picked up from CL for $300. I valued it well over 1K and haven't got to tying yet.
Tying is a blast. I used to be very much into it. Let me know if and when you want to come visit and we'll nail trout like its opening day! Bring Mike too. If its the same one I met on Winni hes good people.
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Tying is a blast. I used to be very much into it. Let me know if and when you want to come visit and we'll nail trout like its opening day! Bring Mike too. If its the same one I met on Winni hes good people.
We can plan something for sure Jon. I need a few more getaways to clear my head. Yep that's him! I try to surround myself by nothing else but good people ;)
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You and me both, tried all kinds of braid, despise it for everything but straight up and down deep jigging.
Love it for the baitcaster but that's only because it's more forgiving than using mono or flouro.
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This was an $100 purchase yesterday.
Guess what my go to is.. ::)
(https://i.postimg.cc/TKwP12WP/20190630-102137.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TKwP12WP)
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We can plan something for sure Jon. I need a few more getaways to clear my head. Yep that's him! I try to surround myself by nothing else but good people ;)
Weekend of the 13th is open for me.
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Weekend of the 13th is open for me.
13'th is my nieces b-day party and the 14'th is my buddies reveal party. I can still squeeze in some fishing in the morning but the rest of the days are a wash.