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Title: Fish ID...........
Post by: Raquettedacker on Oct 04, 2017, 08:44 PM
 ;D

 Caught on a top water tiger fire skitter pop............. ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/aWmKeLsm.jpg)
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Post by: icejohn on Oct 04, 2017, 09:42 PM
Looks like white bass to me....where did u catch it?
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Post by: fishnmachine on Oct 04, 2017, 10:05 PM
A slabber white perch.   ;D
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Post by: filetandrelease on Oct 05, 2017, 01:24 AM

white bass
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Post by: rgfixit on Oct 05, 2017, 03:41 AM
Here we go again :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:

Rg
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Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 05, 2017, 05:37 AM
that's a dollar 25 a pound right there !!!!   :rotflol:


white bass
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Post by: filetandrelease on Oct 05, 2017, 06:19 AM
that's a dollar 25 a pound right there !!!!   :rotflol:


white bass
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Post by: Raquettedacker on Oct 05, 2017, 06:31 AM
Wish I had known that Trapp. We could have filled the boat......... ;D
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Post by: Raquettedacker on Oct 05, 2017, 06:34 AM
If you look at the picture and in the background under the tail the school was just going crazy.........
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Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 05, 2017, 06:36 AM
dacker your going to get everyone upset  ...I get  in trouble here  if I say a prayer  or if I sell a fish   that most people swear at and toss on the bank  :rotflol:
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Post by: filetandrelease on Oct 05, 2017, 07:02 AM

Trapp your one of a kind 👍🏻
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Post by: icejohn on Oct 05, 2017, 07:52 AM
So raquette....what body of water was that...i caught lots of yellow bass about that size in tennesee.. .what a blast and by the way good eating. the looked pretty much the same just with a yellowish gold tint...thanks for sharing.
icejohn
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Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 05, 2017, 08:02 AM
icejohn  nobody is going to give up a good white bass or white perch spot .....come on ..... :rotflol:
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Post by: filetandrelease on Oct 05, 2017, 08:24 AM

I would 😜
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Post by: ActiveTrapChecker on Oct 05, 2017, 09:13 AM
We don't need the name of the body of water, just the GPS coordinates

 8)
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Post by: Mac Attack on Oct 05, 2017, 09:23 AM
Silver bass.

 :whistling:


We keep them in the spring, when the water is still cold.
Great cooked on an open camp fire.
After, we toss them in hot sauce like chicken wings.
Dip them in ranch too.
(bleu cheese dressing is too thick and the meat breaks up)

White perch taste like crap.   :sick:
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Post by: Rugburn on Oct 05, 2017, 10:26 AM
There has been a school of those guys in the same spot on Oneida for 2 months now. Pm me and I'll spill my guts.  ;)
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Post by: bigredfishing on Oct 05, 2017, 10:29 AM
we've been getting a few of those every time we fish the mohawk the last 6 years or so.
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Post by: Raquettedacker on Oct 05, 2017, 11:57 AM
Are you guys sure it's not a Wiper?
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Post by: zwiggles on Oct 05, 2017, 12:34 PM
Are you guys sure it's not a Wiper?

Looks like one to me, but it’s hard to tell if the horizontal lines on its sides are broken up.

Also sounds like white bass don’t eat fish as much as the summer progresses. I’m leaning towards a wiper.
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Post by: devo on Oct 05, 2017, 01:28 PM
White Bass for sure.
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Post by: Mac Attack on Oct 05, 2017, 01:33 PM
silver
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Post by: bigredfishing on Oct 05, 2017, 01:38 PM
lot of different terms i see here

the fish pictured is a white bass (morone chyrsops) and i have also heard them called "silver bass"...i have caught them as far east as the hudson river, but most of mine have come from the mohawk river...mostly in the last 5 years.

white perch have no lines (morone americana) and are super common in the southern half of lake champlain and the hudson river.

wiper are a cross between a white bass and a striper - never heard of wild ones in NY, they used to stock them in one or two small lakes tho.
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Post by: Fishin-Mission on Oct 05, 2017, 02:51 PM
My vote is for White (Silver) Bass based on what I read.  The lateral lines suggest to me it is a White Bass. Based on the article https://www.catfish1.com/threads/white-bass-vs-white-perch.222212/ (https://www.catfish1.com/threads/white-bass-vs-white-perch.222212/) found  on the internet and discussion here.  Yes I realize I should net believe everything I read on the internet, but the article seems legit to me.
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Post by: Raquettedacker on Oct 05, 2017, 04:48 PM
With  that big dorsel fin they looked like Rooster Fish...  8)
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Post by: rgfixit on Oct 05, 2017, 05:01 PM
is it a white bass or a white perch?
WHITE BASS (Morone chrysops)
(https://s1.postimg.org/8m3kn78d57/wbass.gif) (https://postimg.org/image/8m3kn78d57/)


The body is deepest below the dorsal fin and the depth remains fairly uniform below the entire spin dorsal fin.
From 6 to 10 dark lines run horizontally down the back and sides.
When the spiny dorsal fin is pulled erect, the soft dorsal fin remains relaxed.
Each of 3 bony anal fin spines are of different lengths and are arranged in ascending order.
The anal fin usually has I I or 12 soft rays behind the 3 bony spines.
WHITE PERCH (Morone americana)
(https://s1.postimg.org/1ms2jh5y17/wperch.gif) (https://postimg.org/image/1ms2jh5y17/)


The body is deepest just ahead of, or at the beginning of, the dorsal fin.
There are no lines or stripes on the back or sides.
When the spiny dorsal fin is pulled erect, the soft dorsal fin also becomes erect.
The second and third bony anal spines are almost exactly the same length.
The anal fin usually has 8 or 9 soft rays behind the 3 bony spines.

Compliments of Seagrant.

Rg

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Post by: rgfixit on Oct 05, 2017, 05:02 PM
Oh yeah......White Bass.

Rg
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Post by: rgfixit on Oct 05, 2017, 06:14 PM
Oh...oh...yeah...the neighbor's cat won't eat them. Taste like ..........well..........not good.

Rg
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Post by: Mac Attack on Oct 05, 2017, 06:32 PM
They taste pretty good Bob
If you get them out of cold water AND you bleed them out.
They aren't perch or walleye but they taste better than smallmouth.
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Post by: lowaccord66 on Oct 05, 2017, 06:41 PM
lot of different terms i see here

the fish pictured is a white bass (morone chyrsops) and i have also heard them called "silver bass"...i have caught them as far east as the hudson river, but most of mine have come from the mohawk river...mostly in the last 5 years.

white perch have no lines (morone americana) and are super common in the southern half of lake champlain and the hudson river.

wiper are a cross between a white bass and a striper - never heard of wild ones in NY, they used to stock them in one or two small lakes tho.

Hey I seen one of those baby stripers once  :P
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Post by: rgfixit on Oct 05, 2017, 06:56 PM
They taste pretty good Bob
If you get them out of cold water AND you bleed them out.
They aren't perch or walleye but they taste better than smallmouth.

Yeeuuchh! I've cooked white perch and white bass many ways...they taste like crap. I'll take smallies from the fingerlakes any time.

Rg
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Post by: icejohn on Oct 05, 2017, 07:38 PM
It was just an innocent request i didn't really think the body of water was a problem since i thought it may have been oneida....wasn't looking for "the" spot trapp...lol
icejohn
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Post by: jperch on Oct 05, 2017, 09:10 PM
It's a silver perch! ::)  We caught thousands of them in the spring in Lake O near Rochester when we were kids.  Lots of fun to catch, never thought they were much good as table fare.  Too bad!
jperch
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Post by: filetandrelease on Oct 06, 2017, 04:43 AM
White perch and white bass
(https://s1.postimg.org/8oo7ubrluj/IMG_1689.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/8oo7ubrluj/)

(https://s1.postimg.org/77i2skojor/IMG_1690.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/77i2skojor/)
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Post by: Raquettedacker on Oct 06, 2017, 05:50 AM
It was just an innocent request i didn't really think the body of water was a problem since i thought it may have been oneida....wasn't looking for "the" spot trapp...lol
icejohn

      It's ok John, no harm done..
Let's just say the body of water is connected to Oneida lake....... ;)
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Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 06, 2017, 06:21 AM
      It's ok John, no harm done..
Let's just say the body of water is connected to Oneida lake....... ;)

can you explain exactly  and in great detail how  this is  connected  to  Oneida  lake  also   we  need  gps coordinates and   suggestions  where to launch and park .....
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Post by: icejohn on Oct 06, 2017, 09:03 AM
awe come on trappi feel bad enough :'(
icejohn
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Post by: Mac Attack on Oct 06, 2017, 09:05 AM
White perch and white bass
(https://s1.postimg.org/8oo7ubrluj/IMG_1689.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/8oo7ubrluj/)

(https://s1.postimg.org/77i2skojor/IMG_1690.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/77i2skojor/)


yes
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Post by: bigredfishing on Oct 06, 2017, 09:09 AM
awe come on trappi feel bad enough :'(
icejohn

no harm done icejohn, we are just having a lil fun  ;D
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Post by: zwiggles on Oct 06, 2017, 09:11 AM
Isn’t it kind of big to be a white bass?
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Post by: Mac Attack on Oct 06, 2017, 09:42 AM
Isn’t it kind of big to be a white bass?

That's why it's a silver bass.

 :whistling:
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Post by: zwiggles on Oct 06, 2017, 09:49 AM
That's why it's a silver bass.

 :whistling:

Aren’t they one in the same?
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Post by: Raquettedacker on Oct 06, 2017, 10:30 AM
can you explain exactly  and in great detail how  this is  connected  to  Oneida  lake  also   we  need  gps coordinates and   suggestions  where to launch and park .....


   Yeah your barking up the wrong fishing pole here buddy..... ;D
 I have enough people wanting my honey holes..... :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
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Post by: devo on Oct 06, 2017, 10:53 AM
So, is this a green perch and is there a limit on these?
(https://s1.postimg.org/2euvklflrf/bass.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/2euvklflrf/)
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Post by: Mac Attack on Oct 06, 2017, 10:55 AM
Aren’t they one in the same?


yup.
Just having some fun.
It's Friday.

 8)
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Post by: Mac Attack on Oct 06, 2017, 10:56 AM
So, is this a green perch and is there a limit on these?
(https://s1.postimg.org/2euvklflrf/bass.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/2euvklflrf/)


Those are an invasive species and should be destroyed immediately.
Just look how it is trying to bite off your thumb.
Vicious creatures.
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Post by: devo on Oct 06, 2017, 11:03 AM
Yeah, I thought so too Mac, we threw that d**n thing on the rocks with the gobies.
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Post by: Raquettedacker on Oct 06, 2017, 11:56 AM
So, is this a green perch and is there a limit on these?
(https://s1.postimg.org/2euvklflrf/bass.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/2euvklflrf/)


 Limit and certen county's that won't let you catch and release them in the spring when there full of eggs....  Go figure.....

Good to see ya back....
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Post by: Raquettedacker on Oct 06, 2017, 11:58 AM
Oh and that's an invasive species that's only good for catching and not eating.... :P
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Post by: Mac Attack on Oct 06, 2017, 12:48 PM
Yeah, I thought so too Mac, we threw that d**n thing on the rocks with the gobies.


good man!

Do the same thing to the cormorants too
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Post by: rgfixit on Oct 06, 2017, 01:39 PM
Antibassite!

How can you malign a fish that supports a billion dollar economy. Probably hate Carp too :-X
Rg

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Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 06, 2017, 01:48 PM

   Yeah your barking up the wrong fishing pole here buddy..... ;D
 I have enough people wanting my honey holes..... :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:

gee  now i'm feeling bad  if  you have  to guard  a spot to catch  white  bass ....maybe  i'll spin you on a  few  places to  catch perch and  walleyes  .......   :rotflol:
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Post by: Mac Attack on Oct 06, 2017, 03:21 PM
Antibassite!

How can you malign a fish that supports a billion dollar economy. Probably hate Carp too :-X
Rg

Nope.
Carp are useful
You can bury them in your garden for fertilizer.
Bass being buried would make the garden a veritable wasteland where toxin levels would be too high for anything grown to be considered safe for human consumption.

 ;)

Never got a dime in my pocket from a bass.
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Post by: Raquettedacker on Oct 06, 2017, 03:29 PM
Never got a dime in my pocket from a bass.

    I have... ;D   Thats why i fish the few tournaments I do every year.  This year we were 99% in the money the 1% we broke even.... ::)
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Post by: rgfixit on Oct 06, 2017, 03:40 PM
That's fun stuff Dom. Keeps you motivated.  I bumped into Larry and Josh when I was at Oneida. They were pre- fishing for a tournament. Great to see a kid interested in something other than video games and cell phones.

Rg
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Post by: Raquettedacker on Oct 06, 2017, 03:49 PM
Josh is a great fisherman and has a great opportunity to go pro if he sticks with it...   Sure wish I had the chance waaay  back in the day. 
I wish Josh a lot of luck and hope to see him on the big stage some day...
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Post by: rgfixit on Oct 06, 2017, 04:26 PM
He's got a fine mentor.
His Dad.

Rg
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Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 06, 2017, 04:58 PM
josh doesn't lose as  many bobbers  :rotflol:
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Post by: Raquettedacker on Oct 06, 2017, 05:05 PM
josh doesn't lose as  many bobbers  :rotflol:

   Now that right there is funny...... .. :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
 Not sure what Larry knows about bass fishing but he dose send me some nice pictures every now and then...
But I think Josh catches them  and let's pops hold them....... 8) :D
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Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 06, 2017, 05:45 PM
to be  honest  when larry  and  I went crappie  fishing i'm  not  even sure if  we  got any fish or  who lost the  bobbers  but we  really had  some  laughs  and  fun ....  one  of my  most  fond  fishing  trips  ever
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Post by: Raquettedacker on Oct 07, 2017, 02:32 PM
But has anyone ever caught whitesilveryellowbassperchwipersriper as big as those on a top water tiger fire skitter pop before?
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Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 07, 2017, 06:35 PM
who hasn't