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MFF US Northeast => New York => Topic started by: DANMAN on May 05, 2021, 07:51 PM
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Been stuck on shore trying to cast far distances....
2 lb test is great for distance but unforgiving in regard to tangles , snap offs , weed snags etc.
4 lb is great but i lose 5-7 yards with the cast
is there sucha thing as 3lb test. that is not ice fishing mono?
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Berkley NanoFil Uni-Filament Fishing Line comes in 3 lb test. Very good casting line. Amazon had it, but says unavailable from them at this time. Not sure if Bass Pro has it.
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not knowing your rod or reel which make a big difference in casting distance i personally would stick with the 4 lb wax your rod with car wax including the eyes and a shot of reel magic to the line will gain you back that 5 to 7 yards ....also you may want a longer rod and a reel with a larger spool
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Also make sure your spool is full full.. less resistance as the line comes off the spool!!
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2# braid.
It'll cast a mile.
And try and break it with your hands - wear some gloves.
Also, like others said - longer rod and larger diameter reel.
Use large pound backing if you don't want to load if the spool with all 2#
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4lb Nanofil with a long (8ft. +) light action, fast tip rod will do what you need. Mono backing on the large spool reel (not the place for a micro/UL reel), 75 yds of Nanofil to fill it. When it starts to wear and you find yourself needing to trim it due to abrasion, pull it off, turn it around and use the other end. 2-3-4 lb mono or flouro leader depending on your needs. I've had days where the jig hits the water and the Nanofil hovers in the air like a spider web for 30 seconds. If you can't reach what you want with Nanofil, you need to go wading.
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4lb Nanofil with a long (8ft. +) light action, fast tip rod will do what you need. Mono backing on the large spool reel (not the place for a micro/UL reel), 75 yds of Nanofil to fill it. When it starts to wear and you find yourself needing to trim it due to abrasion, pull it off, turn it around and use the other end. 2-3-4 lb mono or flouro leader depending on your needs. I've had days where the jig hits the water and the Nanofil hovers in the air like a spider web for 30 seconds. If you can't reach what you want with Nanofil, you need to go wading.
All good stuff Greg.
But when Scotty and I fished perch together from the bank we used 10-12' rods to really get it launched out there at the Niagara Power Rez to go out past the rocks and not get hung up.
Also, I would not recommend a fast action, but more a moderate or even a slow action.
This way the rod "loads up" in a large arc on the back cast when you start coming forward.
This is a shock absorber type action that will allow you to really come forward fast on the cast without snapping the lighter line and watching your sinker and hooks go sailing unattached.
At least this is what Scott and I found to be the case.
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All good stuff Greg.
But when Scotty and I fished perch together from the bank we used 10-12' rods to really get it launched out there at the Niagara Power Rez to go out past the rocks and not get hung up.
Also, I would not recommend a fast action, but more a moderate or even a slow action.
This way the rod "loads up" in a large arc on the back cast when you start coming forward.
This is a shock absorber type action that will allow you to really come forward fast on the cast without snapping the lighter line and watching your sinker and hooks go sailing unattached.
At least this is what Scott and I found to be the case.
Thus the "8 ft. plus".... ;) I use a slower action rod for slinging bobbers and sinker rigs but generally the lighter faster tip for jigs, spinners, etc. The faster tip also works better for me when I get to fish the Erie perch vertically. I can see bites I never feel........
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Thus the "8 ft. plus".... ;) I use a slower action rod for slinging bobbers and sinker rigs but generally the lighter faster tip for jigs, spinners, etc. The faster tip also works better for me when I get to fish the Erie perch vertically. I can see bites I never feel........
yup - 101%
Especially that part about detecting the bite.
Scott and I would discuss this.
The slower action allowed us more distance without breaking off.
However, the faster action shows you those really light bites.
Another huge reason to braid are those light bites.
Party on Greg!
8)
BTW, the 11th it will be 5 years since he passed.
I really miss him.
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That’s all great info but the O.P. hasn’t said what kind of fishing he’s doing, what specie he’s going after or what does distance mean to him. 25 yards...50 yards.....more?
Just a thought,
Rg
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That’s all great info but the O.P. hasn’t said what kind of fishing he’s doing, what specie he’s going after or what does distance mean to him. 25 yards...50 yards.....more?
Just a thought,
Rg
Asking for 3 lb test and worried about distance I'm gonna guess he ain't casting for stripers nor fishing a 10' wide rill for brookies. Whatever he's after, if he can't reach and catch it with that rig, he needs a buddy with a boat.
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Well, if I cant reach it, I put on the rocket bobber. My go to is an 8’6” (old) bass pro microlite IM-6 and 4 lb stren. I can toss that silly distances.
Rg
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Hey RG it is time you sold that old relic. I have a couple of bucks I could pass your way to take it off your hands. LOL
I have one and I use it for steelhead. We call it the wimpy rod.
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If...and ...if it ever does. Finally fall apart, I’ll use the pieces to make a couple more rods.
I can’t even estimate the numbers of fish that rod has tossed into the breading and oil. Gotta be 30 years old. ...maybe more. Looks a bit war torn....as it should. But, it’s the rod I grabbed off the rack this morning without hesitation.
And...it landed that 3# + smallie on 4 lb test with ease.
Nothing like a fishing rod with years of experience. Such a good old friend. Wish it could talk. We’d have a helluva laugh.
Rg
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I’m probably anal on this topic. I gave up on most store bought rods a few yrs ago and started making my own following the lead and advise of a good friend. I agree with SM on his choices and buy rod blanks that have those actions. The neatest system for long casting light stuff is the use of the “microwave “ guide system. Those guides really do make a difference. My buddy and I have compared identical rod builds with microwaves vs fugi guides and the microwaves add an additional 10 yds. Look them up. The best rod blanks for overall cost, strength and action seem to be made by North Fork Composites. These are lamiglass blanks. St croix has very good rods but there guides and guide placement is meant for general fishing and not casting distance. Unfortunately, they no longer supply blanks retail.
Told you I was anal ;D
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Well, if I cant reach it, I put on the rocket bobber. My go to is an 8’6” (old) bass pro microlite IM-6 and 4 lb stren. I can toss that silly distances.
Rg
Love my Rocket Bobbers!! I have a 9' Cabela's Crappie System rod paired with a wide spool Pflueger and 4lb Nanofil to launch them bad boys out of sight. That rods light enough to toss ice jigs a respectable distance as well. Great all around outfit.
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You get any tangles with Nanofil?
Rg
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I can answer that one! Yes. Have to be careful with it if you cast,jig,retrieve not to get slack in it or windy conditions. Takes a while to figure it out but I have learned how to reduce the wind knots. My rookie buddy though has at least one good wind knot per trip. Be aware of fraying too. Sounds awful but I think it is the longest casting line out there.
I kind of like J line too. Not as wind knot prone as nanofil but doesn’t cast as far. It is better casting than suffix or other braids. Just experimented with it last year.
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Not so much at the reel but like, Pequod mentioned, the wind will sometimes throw a half hitch around the rod tip if you don't pay attention. Stuff really is like spider web. I've had it hang in the air when lightning was threatening due to static and couldn't make it fall to the water. Was bizarre. The abrasion resistance is something to pay attention to. Need to trim it if it shows any sign of shredding. I like a fluoro or mono leader depending on what I'm doing. Generally use a small swivel or Alberto knot to connect it. Knots are another thing to mention. Nanofil is about the slickest line out there, some knots will slip with it. Certainly has pros and cons but for long casting, shallow water jigging, or bobber fishing, it's hard to beat.