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Title: What do you think of the colors on these trout?
Post by: taxid on Oct 21, 2017, 06:36 PM
I've been feeding them a feed that has something called astaxanthin in it to enhance color.

(https://i.imgur.com/MoweX8al.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/tnvyaVWh.jpg)

Brookie still has a little ways to go.
Title: Re: What do you think of the colors on these trout?
Post by: seamonkey84 on Oct 23, 2017, 07:04 PM
That first one is amazing! Tiger trout? Funny thing is, I did he same thing with my clownfish when I kept the orange versions, it really made a difference for them in about a Month.
Title: Re: What do you think of the colors on these trout?
Post by: taxid on Oct 23, 2017, 07:17 PM
Yep tiger trout.

My female brook trout are not coloring up on the outside at all. I'm thinking it's because they are not sexually mature and the males are? They are only 10 months old after all. They usually lag behind the males about a year.
Title: Re: What do you think of the colors on these trout?
Post by: seamonkey84 on Oct 23, 2017, 08:26 PM
I've seen yearling stocked trout spilling eggs, and none of them were as colorful as the males from the same stocking. I know that females can be very colorful too, but the males are always deeper colored.  With the fish I've seen through different waters, the ones coming from more tannin stained waters were also deeper colored.
Title: Re: What do you think of the colors on these trout?
Post by: taxid on Oct 24, 2017, 08:36 AM
I've seen yearling stocked trout spilling eggs, and none of them were as colorful as the males from the same stocking. I know that females can be very colorful too, but the males are always deeper colored.  With the fish I've seen through different waters, the ones coming from more tannin stained waters were also deeper colored.

Likewise. Fished some mountain ponds above Namakanta Lake, Maine with some waters tannin stained and others not. The tannin stained water brookies were much brighter than the trout we caught out of e.g. The Rainbow Deadwaters which IIRR receives water from Rainbow Lake -- which is crystal clear.

I can easily dye the larger pond they are being moved to soon just in case I get a visit from an Osprey. But they are more fun to watch in clear water and that pond is extremely clear. I wonder if the dye making the water darker would enhance color further as in tannin stained water?
Title: Re: What do you think of the colors on these trout?
Post by: filetandrelease on Oct 24, 2017, 08:54 AM

Omg taxid that tiger is awesome 👍🏻
Title: Re: What do you think of the colors on these trout?
Post by: taxid on Oct 24, 2017, 09:07 AM
Omg taxid that tiger is awesome 👍🏻

Thanks. Can't wait until they get to be 4 to 6 pounds next fall if they get as big as my brook and brown trout have for me in the past. Was told by a state hatchery supervisor in Massachusetts they grown slower than the other trout at first, but catch up and surpass them when the other trout reach sexual maturity due to the tigers being sterile.  Will see. My first year with tigers.

My biggest brooks are 13 to 14 inches now but biggest tiger I've seen was just over 12 inches.
Title: Re: What do you think of the colors on these trout?
Post by: seamonkey84 on Oct 24, 2017, 09:16 AM
What color would it dye the water? I'm thinking as long as the water is stained but remains clear so it doesn't give them the feeling that it's murky or muddy it might work. so keep it like tea not like coffee lol.
These are from springtime, but I feel it's a good example (just because I like to share). They were caught just a week or so apart so it's not the seasonal color shift.
These was from a small brook that has very stained water, but it's very clear
(https://s1.postimg.org/50ulv4bx2j/IMG_3278.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/50ulv4bx2j/)

(https://s1.postimg.org/8bya4sxiuz/IMG_3271.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/8bya4sxiuz/)

(https://s1.postimg.org/4zfkafivyj/IMG_3276.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4zfkafivyj/)

These were from a stream that is usually fairly silty to almost mud colored.
(https://s1.postimg.org/6xm88fqlkr/IMG_3292.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6xm88fqlkr/)

(https://s1.postimg.org/52metz3iyj/IMG_3303.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/52metz3iyj/)

Title: Re: What do you think of the colors on these trout?
Post by: taxid on Oct 24, 2017, 12:30 PM
Yeah definitely a difference! Native fish that were never planted?

As a fish taxidermist I get fish from clear, muddy, and stained waters. The muddy watered largemouth bass tend to be really light in color.

Here's a fish that was about 2 years old that was on the astaxanthin for several months. Looks like a wild fish doesn't it? Was in the three to four pound range IIRR.

(https://i.imgur.com/JfU0m8M.jpg)

Title: Re: What do you think of the colors on these trout?
Post by: seamonkey84 on Oct 24, 2017, 01:24 PM
The ones in the stained water were native, the second set were from fingerlings that were put out to grow. The trout you raise look beautiful, maybe a little too well fed lol.
Title: Re: What do you think of the colors on these trout?
Post by: lowaccord66 on Oct 24, 2017, 05:26 PM
The tigers back is very similar to a mackerel pattern.  Very cool.
Title: Re: What do you think of the colors on these trout?
Post by: taxid on Oct 24, 2017, 08:55 PM
The ones in the stained water were native, the second set were from fingerlings that were put out to grow. The trout you raise look beautiful, maybe a little too well fed lol.

I try not to overfeed them but it's hard to get total pounds in a pond vs. a raceway. If I overestimate the pounds in the pond I end up overfeeding them. And fish are like people: they will eat more than they need.

Part of it is they are in a lacustrine environment so they don't expend as many calories swimming against a current like stream and river trout.

We get browns in the Great Lakes fatter then the above fish. They don't call them football browns for nothing!
Title: Re: What do you think of the colors on these trout?
Post by: seamonkey84 on Oct 25, 2017, 11:53 AM
All in jest lol. I know that Stillwater trout tend to be less streamline and gain weight cause they're not living on a treadmill. I'd say your feeding smartly still, as some who feed to the point they don't look more like a sausage with fins and a mouth. Some fat fish jokes included in this article. http://www.ginkandgasoline.com/fly-fishing-tips-technique/sooooo-ee-calling-all-pellet-pigs-what-you-should-know-about-feeding-trout/ (http://www.ginkandgasoline.com/fly-fishing-tips-technique/sooooo-ee-calling-all-pellet-pigs-what-you-should-know-about-feeding-trout/)
Title: Re: What do you think of the colors on these trout?
Post by: taxid on Oct 25, 2017, 04:14 PM
Thanks for sharing that.  And I found it humorous. Some of it doesn't apply to me as I sell the trout and catching them is just the way to harvest them when it's time to take them out.
Title: Re: What do you think of the colors on these trout?
Post by: Fishermantim on Oct 26, 2017, 11:12 AM
Beautiful colors.
Abnormally large fish (they don't normally get that fat in the wild).
With whatever you feed them, surely you aren't eating them, huh? (Maybe you'll pee in a rainbow of colors?)

Anyway, they are great looking fish.
Title: Re: What do you think of the colors on these trout?
Post by: taxid on Oct 26, 2017, 01:12 PM
I get a minimum of $40.00 each up to $100.00 depending on size, sold to taxidermists shipped whole frozen as far as Hawaii, so no I can't get myself to eat even one.  ;D It would be like flushing up to $100.00 down the toilet. :'(

I respectively disagree with you on them not getting that rotund in the wild. Perhaps not New England, but here in the Great Lakes I have taken in brown trout that were the epitome of a football brown. If the food supply is there and it's mainly forage fish...

Here's a Lake Ontario brown

(https://i.imgur.com/YeeG19gm.jpg)

Here's a wild brookie caught in Patagonia I've posted here before. It doesn't get much more wild than Patagonia even with a few lodges down there.

(https://i.imgur.com/AC47STzm.jpg)

I have noticed that mature male brook trout develop a high back during spawning time that makes them look rotund.
Title: Re: What do you think of the colors on these trout?
Post by: Fishermantim on Oct 27, 2017, 11:42 AM
I should add (to ease anyone's concern about my comments) that I live in MA, and since our trout fishery has been delegated to an entirely "put and take" industry, so finding "native" or "wild" trout would be like hitting the lottery...twice on the same day...on consecutive scratch-off tickets....from the same store and same book of tickets.

In other words, it's quite rare.

There are a few waters that have (some-what) wild trout, but they are out in the western part of the state.

But I will agree, there isn't much that beats a trout in full spawn color!
Title: Re: What do you think of the colors on these trout?
Post by: taxid on Oct 27, 2017, 12:21 PM
I found a few tiny creeks with wild ones in places that might surprise you in northeastern Mass. One was out in the middle of the Ft. Devens military reservation that is now the Oxbow federal preserve.
Title: Re: What do you think of the colors on these trout?
Post by: lilthine on Dec 20, 2017, 01:27 AM
Insane, I love it. You were able to enhance their colors.