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MFF US Northeast => New York => Topic started by: joefish1 on Jul 14, 2019, 06:08 AM
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https://cnycentral.com/news/local/139-pound-sturgeon-caught-in-onedia-lake-is-largest-since-recovery-program-began-in-1995
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I thought it was interesting the article didn't say the fish had a tag in it. If not it's not one that was planted. So...
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oh 'm sure tats one of the stocked fish I'm sure ...I find it interesting they stock suck a limited amount why not stock Ontario and the other lakes and why not stock enough so we can legally fish for them
taxid they are cool to see I caught on in Oneida river ....
a lot have been caught but the guys aen't going to post pictures because of all the tree huggers going crazy yelling about taking the 2 seconds to take the picture ......
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a lot have been caught but the guys aen't going to post pictures because of all the tree huggers going crazy yelling about taking the 2 seconds to take the picture ......
In Maine, it’s still possible to catch an Atlantic salmon (besides the landlocked variety), but it’s illegal to even pull it out of the water. People still catch them, any pics I’ve seen are with the fish grabbed by the tail or in a net, but still in the water.
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Like this beauty I got a few years ago in Oneida?
(https://i.postimg.cc/5XcTntk4/B3-F1-B63-F-5-A16-466-A-94-EA-62-D567-BE34-B5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5XcTntk4)
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oh 'm sure tats one of the stocked fish I'm sure ...I find it interesting they stock suck a limited amount why not stock Ontario and the other lakes and why not stock enough so we can legally fish for them i
taxid they are cool to see I caught on in Oneida river ....
a lot have been caught but the guys aen't going to post pictures because of all the tree huggers going crazy yelling about taking the 2 seconds to take the picture ......
Trapp...they do stock in lake Ontario....they stock them in couple of the bay's.
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Yes , they do stock Lake Ontario …………….. they have signs about them posted on the Charlotte Pier !!
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I wondered how big the ones they stocked are because it takes a long time to grow to that size?
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i say stock enough of them so we can fish for them if your going to do it do it right the first time
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i say stock enough of them so we can fish for them if your going to do it do it right the first time
Amen go big or go home
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i say stock enough of them so we can fish for them if your going to do it do it right the first time
With all the fish and game departments trying to reintroduce species and stocking native fish vs. exotic, you would think they would want to make Lake Ontario the way it was once by pushing Landlocked Atlantic salmon. Lake Ontario once had an incredible amount of native landlocked salmon.
Here's a big one out of I think Torch Lake in Michigan.
(https://i.imgur.com/exesp1t.jpg)
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Got this one on Ontario this spring. A handful of smaller ones too.
(https://i.postimg.cc/pmx9H5Pc/95-D36-E8-A-5-E5-E-407-A-8087-62-D258458985.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/pmx9H5Pc)
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Here's a big one out of I think Torch Lake in Michigan.
(https://i.imgur.com/exesp1t.jpg)
Might be the camera/fish angle, but that doesn’t look like an Atlantic... way too broad and the head shape isn’t right. Otherwise that is a “pellet pig” of a landlocked salmon. Here’s a native I caught this spring from Sebago (Maine)
(https://i.postimg.cc/z3wBzX3y/DCA2122-F-6927-4-FBB-B2-D5-93469-EC66132.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3wBzX3y)
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Got this one on Ontario this spring. A handful of smaller ones too.
(https://i.postimg.cc/pmx9H5Pc/95-D36-E8-A-5-E5-E-407-A-8087-62-D258458985.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/pmx9H5Pc)
After looking at this pic closer, I agree it’s an Atlantic, and I take back the comment about the other one being too broad for an Atlantic lol. But the head shape still looks like a chinook to me (at least from the images I’ve seen)
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Got this one on Ontario this spring. A handful of smaller ones too.
(https://i.postimg.cc/pmx9H5Pc/95-D36-E8-A-5-E5-E-407-A-8087-62-D258458985.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/pmx9H5Pc)
Beautiful fish!
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Might be the camera/fish angle, but that doesn’t look like an Atlantic... way too broad and the head shape isn’t right. Otherwise that is a “pellet pig” of a landlocked salmon. Here’s a native I caught this spring from Sebago (Maine)
(https://i.postimg.cc/z3wBzX3y/DCA2122-F-6927-4-FBB-B2-D5-93469-EC66132.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3wBzX3y)
Edit:After looking at this pic closer, I agree it’s an Atlantic, and I take back the comment about the other one being too broad for an Atlantic lol. But the head shape still looks like a chinook to me (at least from the images I’ve seen)
Seamonkey84,
What's throwing you off is it's a very fast growing fish with all the groceries it will ever need. That means the head is disproportionately small for the body because the head cartilage doesn't keep up with the rest of the body. I see it all the time in my pellet fed pigs.
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Wow, I guess our forage isn’t as abundant, or they just don’t do well feeding on the Alewives that have been displacing the smelt.
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Seamonkey84,
Were you around in the 70's when both the smelt and alewives were extremely abundant? I remember seeing fish that looked like they were on steroids.
That said as you probably know alewives aren't the best forage as they can cause a vitamin deficiency in salmonids.
https://www.usgs.gov/news/lack-vitamin-b1-killing-great-lakes-fish
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Wow this went from a sturgeon being caught in oneida to landlocks and smelt and saw bellies all over....????
And pretty sure sea monkey wasn't old enough for the 70's.... ;)
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Wow this went from a sturgeon being caught in oneida to landlocks and smelt and saw bellies all over....????
And pretty sure sea monkey wasn't old enough for the 70's.... ;)
Hey we are well rounded anglers here. Any subject -- we are all experts. :rotflol:
BTW what do you think about the humpback whales and how many tons of fish they inhale? Do you think they'll have an effect on the mackerel this year? ;)
As far as Sea Monkey and the 70's at first I thought the comment was from Trapper2000 and then changed it to Sea Monkey84 when I realized he had made the comment.
And of course I keep forgetting how freaking old I am! The 70's must feel like the Jarrasic Period to some of you!
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i don't remember the 70's :rotflol:
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i don't remember the 70's :rotflol:
I do. Got married in the 70's. Forgot her name though.lol :whistling: :whistling:
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Well at least it got you guys talking again. Things were pretty dull for awhile. No one wanted to talk about anything so thats why it was started.
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my opinion is simple ...their stocked stock more of them and let people fish for them ......what good are they and why waste the money if sportsmen can't enjoy them ????
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my opinion is simple ...their stocked stock more of them and let people fish for them ......what good are they and why waste the money if sportsmen can't enjoy them ????
You can enjoy them on a catch and release only not a fillet and release that's all. I know we all prefer the fillet and release method but until they have a healthy population or they stock more we aren't going to be able to do that
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Wow, I guess our forage isn’t as abundant, or they just don’t do well feeding on the Alewives that have been displacing the smelt.
I think the one from torch lake was a state or world record. The bio said the lake has a stupid amount of shrimp in it, and that was why the fish was so fat.
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You can enjoy them on a catch and release only not a fillet and release that's all. I know we all prefer the fillet and release method but until they have a healthy population or they stock more we aren't going to be able to do that
NO YOU CAN NOT! you are not supposed to target these fish in any way ! no catch and release fishing ....... they should just stock more or use the money from this to better the fishing and access we have ....again my opinion
I do not believe these fish will ever be self sufficant ,that's why they disappeared to begin with
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(https://i.postimg.cc/qz5hCSbk/3718-B507-6-B23-4-D10-8848-1-D45-A66-D1-ECE.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qz5hCSbk)
The one they have from Oneida is a baby. They do reside in Lake Ontario. This floater was spotted in Guffin Bay. No visible injuries, at least 7' long, may have died of old age. Sorry about the picture of a picture (pre digital).
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https://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/26035.html (https://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/26035.html)
always been sturgeon in Ontario the idea is to get the numbers to increase
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i don't remember the 70's :rotflol:
So you're one of those young whippersnappers too eh? If so you would have been in heaven when the salmon and trout were at their peak. I remember looking down off of a dam on the Thunderbay River in Alpena and watching hook jawed monster browns cruise back and forth. Unfortunately they were as lock jawed as the salmon that seemed to average 30 pounds. I don't know how much those browns weighed but their backs were a good 6 inches a across.
A local radio station here in Indiana would announce when the kings would stage off the river mouths. Those kings averaged in the upper 20's. 30 pounds was common.
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huhhhhhhhhhh taxid I don't think understood :rotflol:
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NO YOU CAN NOT! you are not supposed to target these fish in any way ! no catch and release fishing ....... they should just stock more or use the money from this to better the fishing and access we have ....again my opinion
I do not believe these fish will ever be self sufficant ,that's why they disappeared to begin with
I didn't mean it as targeting them cause I doubt anyone even knows what amor where to target then with. But if you happen to hook up with one enjoy it take pictures and release it
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Seamonkey84,
Were you around in the 70's when both the smelt and alewives were extremely abundant? I remember seeing fish that looked like they were on steroids.
That said as you probably know alewives aren't the best forage as they can cause a vitamin deficiency in salmonids.
https://www.usgs.gov/news/lack-vitamin-b1-killing-great-lakes-fish
No, born in ‘84 lol. I know that the salmon don’t do well feeding on alewife. The smelt population took a big hit when the alewife got into the lakes.
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They do get big: The Atlantic Sturgeon is a large-bodied, slow-growing and late-maturing anadromous fish, which lives and grows in brackish, salty water, but spawns in fresh water. The largest fish to be captured in the St. Lawrence River (160 kg or 350 lb) was estimated to be about 60 years old.
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Believe it or not there's alot of sturgeon in the seneca river also..alot of them at the dam near cayuga lake
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Believe it or not there's alot of sturgeon in the seneca river also..alot of them at the dam near cayuga lake
I believe it but what I don't believe is that you have ever caught one as it's about 1000x bigger than anything you have ever hooked in to lol. Just kindding buddy it more like 10000x bigger than anything you have ever caught
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I believe it but what I don't believe is that you have ever caught one as it's about 1000x bigger than anything you have ever hooked in to lol. Just kindding buddy it more like 10000x bigger than anything you have ever caught
LOL :rotflol: :rotflol:
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i catch short nosed ones in the hudson all the time
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LOL :rotflol: :rotflol:
Ypu just enjoy that I pick on him. Your all good sports about the ball busting we do here. But so we don't get in trouble this winter we need our own topic on ICE SHANTY
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Ypu just enjoy that I pick on him. Your all good sports about the ball busting we do here. But so we don't get in trouble this winter we need our own topic on ICE SHANTY
I agree. We can call it " The guy who likes to take pictures of foul hooked fish and dinks" :whistling: :whistling:
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I agree. We can call it " The guy who likes to take pictures of foul hooked fish and dinks" :whistling: :whistling:
Nah better yet we will call it "Only chance little guy doesn't out fish him"