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MFF US Northeast => Massachusetts => Topic started by: Fishermantim on May 21, 2020, 12:21 PM
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With all the restrictions put in place, some which sound completely random and asinine, I'm wondering if anyone has been able to do any salt water fishing from shore?
Funny how the governor says fishing is ok, but they the town close all beaches, beach lots and many bridges and docks, so exactly how the hell are we supposed to fish?
Maybe the stimulus check was meant for us to buy drones so we can fish from home?
After the initial safety concerns were met, the bureaucracy took over and the rules and regulations started to go into overdrive.
Thankfully I've been able to get out for some freshwater action.
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Fortunately for me, I live close enough to the coast that my wife dropped me off for a few hours last weekend to fish. I might bicycle down at some point too. I understand not everyone can do these and I can't wait for parking, even limited, to reopen. I'm fishing at daybreak so shouldn't have problem finding parking even at 50% capacity which is to be expected in the next reopening phase.
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I do most of my salt fishing at night, and about 25% of my fresh at night.
If you want to see how crazy and insane these regulations are, check out ANY hiking trail in the state/region.
When you see dozens of cars, sometimes grossly exceeding the parking limit for that lot, it makes me wonder if the "powers-that-be" really know what they're talking about?
Most times the answer is a resounding "NO".
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I do most of my salt fishing at night, and about 25% of my fresh at night.
If you want to see how crazy and insane these regulations are, check out ANY hiking trail in the state/region.
When you see dozens of cars, sometimes grossly exceeding the parking limit for that lot, it makes me wonder if the "powers-that-be" really know what they're talking about?
Most times the answer is a resounding "NO".
I've been surfcasting for quite some time and while these new regulations are a bit overbearing the amount of crap I've dealt with to fish the shore is unimaginable. I'll still get out. Have to be sneaky but most of the good shore spots have very very limited access anyways and or weird seldom used easements.
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I do most of my salt fishing at night, and about 25% of my fresh at night.
If you want to see how crazy and insane these regulations are, check out ANY hiking trail in the state/region.
When you see dozens of cars, sometimes grossly exceeding the parking limit for that lot, it makes me wonder if the "powers-that-be" really know what they're talking about?
Most times the answer is a resounding "NO".
I'll second that. I've been turkey hunting in the Wachusett's area and at noon the hiking parking lots are full and they sre parking along the streets. CRAZY
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I havent had any issue on the cape. only thing i ran into was south Cape beach parking lot being closed but i parked in the town beach lot 200yds away instead
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I havent had any issue on the cape. only thing i ran into was south Cape beach parking lot being closed but i parked in the town beach lot 200yds away instead
That's good. Some rumors saying they will close the canal.
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That's good. Some rumors saying they will close the canal.
I think they’re considering a canal closure for commercial guys only. Recs should be ok.
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I think they’re considering a canal closure for commercial guys only. Recs should be ok.
I heard the opposite...guess we will have to see!
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I heard the opposite...guess we will have to see!
I also heard closing for commercial -
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I heard the opposite...guess we will have to see!
I heard as well. it will definitely happen this spring for at least temporarily. already shoulder to shoulder in some spots this weekend and there was no fish. as soon as the fish show up and the show begins the plug will be pulled with this social distance thing. commercial is not set in stone yet and doesn't seem like their emergency enactment is gaining any ground.
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I also heard closing for commercial -
That wouldn't bother me, but I have friends that fish commercially it would affect.
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One of my spring spots (not a spot burn as it's a well known spot) is the bridge in Duxbury.
The lots and the bridge were closed.
Apparently they are allowing limited beach access (daylight hours only) and not beach access south of the bridge (plovers this time).
What sucks is that since I do most of my salt water fishing at night, many spots are "closed" now at night.
If this continues I WILL be requesting a refund of my salt water permit, since I cannot use it where I would normally.
They say fishing is "open" but if you can't get to the spot you would usually fish, or can't fish WHEN you would usually fish, what good is it?
(it sounds like a breach of contract - sell permits to fish but refuse/prevent use of permit by means of restrictions)
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In mass the government can't close the beach as its held in the public trust. You'll need to get with the coastal management office re Duxbury and have them reach out to the local officials. Fishing, fowling, and navigation of Mass beaches is held in the public trust and protected by the states constitution. The coastal management office helped me battle Marblehead when their cops were illegally removing me from certain sections of shoreline I was accessing through a public easement. It's a ton of work but if you don't do it you have no rights to complain.
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fishing isn't closed parking can be an issue. just need go put in more work. refund would be invalid as fishing is not inhibited
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I'm debating a seabass trip this coming weekend but have no idea if where I like to launch my kayak is going to be open. Typically they open the beach section on Memorial Day so I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. The next closest launch would be a heck of ride in a yak to get to productive grounds. Anyone know if towns are publishing what beaches or open/closed?
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The issue I was looking at was that shore fishing was allowed, but if you cannot park in a lot designated for beach parking, and don't live in that particular area, how do you get to the shore?
You know the story: Yes, you can fish the beach, but the beach parking lot is closed or restricted to "residents only".
We'll se how it goes in the days, weeks and months to come.
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The issue I was looking at was that shore fishing was allowed, but if you cannot park in a lot designated for beach parking, and don't live in that particular area, how do you get to the shore?
You know the story: Yes, you can fish the beach, but the beach parking lot is closed or restricted to "residents only".
We'll se how it goes in the days, weeks and months to come.
Do it how I used to....big note in the car windshield "broken down, do not tow, private tow on its way"
Worked wonders for limited access spots. I always wanted to use Uber to access spots.
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The issue I was looking at was that shore fishing was allowed, but if you cannot park in a lot designated for beach parking, and don't live in that particular area, how do you get to the shore?
You know the story: Yes, you can fish the beach, but the beach parking lot is closed or restricted to "residents only".
We'll se how it goes in the days, weeks and months to come.
Get a bike
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I'm debating a seabass trip this coming weekend but have no idea if where I like to launch my kayak is going to be open. Typically they open the beach section on Memorial Day so I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. The next closest launch would be a heck of ride in a yak to get to productive grounds. Anyone know if towns are publishing what beaches or open/closed?
if you are fishing the old channel in bb then you will have no problem parking at the usual areas and I can even pm you some other areas to park and launch that are less crowded
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I have done well at Halibut State Park over the years and you should be able to park there( during the day).
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I heard as well. it will definitely happen this spring for at least temporarily. already shoulder to shoulder in some spots this weekend and there was no fish. as soon as the fish show up and the show begins the plug will be pulled with this social distance thing. commercial is not set in stone yet and doesn't seem like their emergency enactment is gaining any ground.
Canal is now closed to commercial fishing.
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Canal is now closed to commercial fishing.
Crazy.
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Canal is now closed to commercial fishing.
90 days. Vote to make it permanent on August 20.
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90 days. Vote to make it permanent on August 20.
Anyone know why they are trying to Ban it there?
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Anyone know why they are trying to Ban it there?
It’s all about enforcement. It’s too confusing when one group can’t keep a fish 35” and up while another group can’t keep anything under 35. It’s an enforcement nightmare.
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It’s all about enforcement. It’s too confusing when one group can’t keep a fish 35” and up while another group can’t keep anything under 35. It’s an enforcement nightmare.
yup because its really hard to look for people with large fish on a Monday or Wednesday and think huh i better go check them and see if they have a license. They should check their licenses like they already should be doing. these fisheries managers make no sense
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Part of the reason if I understand it right is that the Canal is owned/managed by the Army Corp of Engineers and the first mandate for the canal is for shipping, second is recreational use, not commercial use (com fishing). With the complaints of what goes on at the canal closing the com fishing is one of the tools, they have to possibly cut back on numbers and abuse.
I stopped fishing the canal a long time ago as many of the anglers acted like @SS#oles and I fish for fun, not to put up with the behavior I have seen down there. I also would like to see stripers become a sports fish, so I don't have a problem with the closure.
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I also would like to see stripers become a sports fish, so I don't have a problem with the closure.
Me too.
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Part of the reason if I understand it right is that the Canal is owned/managed by the Army Corp of Engineers and the first mandate for the canal is for shipping, second is recreational use, not commercial use (com fishing). With the complaints of what goes on at the canal closing the com fishing is one of the tools, they have to possibly cut back on numbers and abuse.
I stopped fishing the canal a long time ago as many of the anglers acted like @SS#oles and I fish for fun, not to put up with the behavior I have seen down there. I also would like to see stripers become a sports fish, so I don't have a problem with the closure.
they have been saying if this doesn't decrease the noise and vice ( and we all know it wont) then they will take further measures to restrict parking and possibly close it to all fishing if need be.
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When people can't play nice with their toys, they get them taken away... This will be sad as I am sure it is not the majority of anglers causing the problems, but somehow we need to police ourselves. That said I don't know how that can be done, Last time I was there and 1 guy was getting in the way of like 6 other anglers I politely asked him to let the next guy cast. I was told to &uck Off and not one other angler spoke up. If that is the kind of behavior that is acceptable, then most likely the canal will get closed down sooner than later. And yes I could have gone over and had a confirmation with the jerk, I am a big guy and can hold my own, but I was there to fish, not spend time in jail when I cracked his head on the rocks... If I did not get shot first... I walked away and have not been back, I will leave it to the kids that did not learn how to play nice in kindergarten...
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they have been saying if this doesn't decrease the noise and vice ( and we all know it wont) then they will take further measures to restrict parking and possibly close it to all fishing if need be.
It won't. I mentioned in the other thread that its not commercial fisherman that are causing the issues. Apparently this is specifically related to troubles in the west end last season.
I doubt the powers that be in Bourne and other neighboring towns would favor no fishing. We are a large percentage of that towns economy.
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I just don't understand how they can't have an EPO or two in plain clothes out there every full and new moon at a few known poaching areas. Both ends, the fishing pier and the herring run are all well known spots that I've witnessed poaching at almost every year.
And Jon a lot of commercial guys give fish away so they can continue to fish for bigger fish during a blitz. I've seen that quite frequently. I agree they aren't a main source of the problem but there are some that could do it more ethically. They also don't have enough signage, in MULTIPLE language, that states the new slot limit. There are so many people down there that pretend to play dumb.