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Re: SALMON RIVER ASSAULT THREAD
« Reply #75 on: Aug 17, 2010, 08:22 PM »
I hear the Mahoney boys were a little camera shy outside the court house the other day. I hear they hid like little girls when they saw a news camera .

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Re: SALMON RIVER ASSAULT THREAD
« Reply #76 on: Aug 19, 2010, 01:18 AM »
I hear the Mahoney boys were a little camera shy outside the court house the other day. I hear they hid like little girls when they saw a news camera .
I read the daily paper.....and hear coments from local people and customers. I must say that A very similar comment was shared with me from a customer that lives up in that area! Sweating bullet's a bit, they are.......but still, the charges that they are up against are piddilly compared to what most people think they should have been charged! All misdemeaners ? C'mon, not even an assault with intent.... class e felony charge? Crud, nowdays ya get a felony intent to kill charge, driving down the road, after drinking one cocktail, if there is a child in the vehicle. Not saying that drinking and driving is right, by any means. Just trying to make a fair similarity.

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Re: SALMON RIVER ASSAULT THREAD
« Reply #77 on: Aug 19, 2010, 07:07 AM »
I read the daily paper.....and hear coments from local people and customers. I must say that A very similar comment was shared with me from a customer that lives up in that area! Sweating bullet's a bit, they are.......but still, the charges that they are up against are piddilly compared to what most people think they should have been charged! All misdemeaners ? C'mon, not even an assault with intent.... class e felony charge? Crud, nowdays ya get a felony intent to kill charge, driving down the road, after drinking one cocktail, if there is a child in the vehicle. Not saying that drinking and driving is right, by any means. Just trying to make a fair similarity.
The way I see it, its only charges from the DA there facing at the moment. I hope after the DA is done with them, the DEC steps in and does the right thing and slams them with more charges!

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Re: SALMON RIVER ASSAULT THREAD
« Reply #78 on: Aug 19, 2010, 01:38 PM »
They are looking at two or three misdemeanor charges from the state and one infraction charge from the DEC, (fighting in an authorized fishing area). Max sentence from all charges is 1yr and 15 days in jail, and about $2'500 in fines...the way I recall reading it in yesterdays paper. Hardly a slap on the hand.

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Re: SALMON RIVER ASSAULT THREAD
« Reply #79 on: Aug 19, 2010, 04:24 PM »
They are looking at two or three misdemeanor charges from the state and one infraction charge from the DEC, (fighting in an authorized fishing area). Max sentence from all charges is 1yr and 15 days in jail, and about $2'500 in fines...the way I recall reading it in yesterdays paper. Hardly a slap on the hand.
I agree with you, It is a slap on the hand! lets hope the get the max  . This is why I like the old school way of dealing with a bully.

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Re: SALMON RIVER ASSAULT THREAD
« Reply #80 on: Sep 22, 2010, 07:22 PM »
  THE EYEWITNESS Well here is the eyewitness account of what happened the day of the assault. I was fishing 200 yards downstream from the older gentleman who got attacked, but did not know at the time it was my friend Bill. I started to hear yelling , when I seen a guy punch another guy , honestly seen this before so did not think much of it. The yelling and punching continued and I seen 2 more guys jump in throwing punches. Then I was concerned for the guy and started yelling to them that was enough maybe 8 more fisherman were saying the same thing. But it did not stop and they started to hold him under water while 2 other people were kicking and punching him. I then realised this man's life was in serious danger, so I then started to walk up to assist the man, yelling across the river walking up to where they were, I realized that I knew it was Bill getting the beating. Then I realized who was doing the kicking and punching it was Pat Mahoney, Bob Mahoney Jr. and 3 other guys who I'm not positive who they are. One of the men with a thinner build and no shirt had a tattoo's on his chest. Once I got to a spot where I could cross the "tough guys" went running through the woods. These men are cowards. This display was pathetic to say the least. Bill is 63 and was begging them to stop , what kind of a man could do such a thing. I'm counting on justice to prevail and these "tough guys" get punished to the fullest extent of the law. I also believe there guide license's should be taken away forever . Bill is a tough man and I wish him a speedy recovery so he can get back to what he loves fishing.

THE FRIEND OF THE VICTUM Bill was beatin very badly & his injuries will take sometime to heal. He's experiencing severe headaches, blurriness, sore ribs, sore back, broken nose & bruises from his head to his knees. They even kicked him in the b--ls. They'll be in the news & newspaper before long. Lets see if they can run from the State Police. They'll be selling each other down the drain when they hear what the charges are.

This was not a fight ( it was an assault on one man by a group of thugs ) Bill Murry the 62 year old victum was beatin , kicked , choked & held underwater to the point he thought he was going to die. So lets get this clear , it was not a fight , it was a brutal attack & these thugs should of been arrested by now. It seems to me that the D.E.C. or State Police do not have there facts straight, Bill was released from Upstate Medical University & re-admitted to the V.A. hospital. As of today , 4 days have passed & still no arrests have been made. The thugs were not fishing, only Bill Murray was. They were hiding in the woods waiting for there pre-meditated attack. I keep hearing about an alleged tire slashing. Well you don't have to be a brain surgeon to figure this out. First of all I know Bill Murray for years , he's an honest, caring, loving husband, father & grandfather. He's a War veteran who loves his country & his fellow man, loves to fish & enjoys the outdoors & life more than anyone I know. Most of all he does'nt have any time for the Mahoney brothers & the rest of the thugs before or now, he just wants to be left alone. They threatened his life & threatened to burn down his house if he told the police who they were, well they know who they are & we're waiting for the police to do there job. Why are the Police so apprehensive, ( in the case of a fishing violation the fisherman is taken directly to the JUDGE ) Tell me what's wrong with this picture. Please contact your Senator , Congressman or any local representative of Government that may help Bill receive JUSTICE.


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Re: SALMON RIVER ASSAULT THREAD
« Reply #81 on: Sep 23, 2010, 05:09 AM »
  THE EYEWITNESS Well here is the eyewitness account of what happened the day of the assault. I was fishing 200 yards downstream from the older gentleman who got attacked, but did not know at the time it was my friend Bill. I started to hear yelling , when I seen a guy punch another guy , honestly seen this before so did not think much of it. The yelling and punching continued and I seen 2 more guys jump in throwing punches. Then I was concerned for the guy and started yelling to them that was enough maybe 8 more fisherman were saying the same thing. But it did not stop and they started to hold him under water while 2 other people were kicking and punching him. I then realised this man's life was in serious danger, so I then started to walk up to assist the man, yelling across the river walking up to where they were, I realized that I knew it was Bill getting the beating. Then I realized who was doing the kicking and punching it was Pat Mahoney, Bob Mahoney Jr. and 3 other guys who I'm not positive who they are. One of the men with a thinner build and no shirt had a tattoo's on his chest. Once I got to a spot where I could cross the "tough guys" went running through the woods. These men are cowards. This display was pathetic to say the least. Bill is 63 and was begging them to stop , what kind of a man could do such a thing. I'm counting on justice to prevail and these "tough guys" get punished to the fullest extent of the law. I also believe there guide license's should be taken away forever . Bill is a tough man and I wish him a speedy recovery so he can get back to what he loves fishing.

THE FRIEND OF THE VICTUM Bill was beatin very badly & his injuries will take sometime to heal. He's experiencing severe headaches, blurriness, sore ribs, sore back, broken nose & bruises from his head to his knees. They even kicked him in the b--ls. They'll be in the news & newspaper before long. Lets see if they can run from the State Police. They'll be selling each other down the drain when they hear what the charges are.

This was not a fight ( it was an assault on one man by a group of thugs ) Bill Murry the 62 year old victum was beatin , kicked , choked & held underwater to the point he thought he was going to die. So lets get this clear , it was not a fight , it was a brutal attack & these thugs should of been arrested by now. It seems to me that the D.E.C. or State Police do not have there facts straight, Bill was released from Upstate Medical University & re-admitted to the V.A. hospital. As of today , 4 days have passed & still no arrests have been made. The thugs were not fishing, only Bill Murray was. They were hiding in the woods waiting for there pre-meditated attack. I keep hearing about an alleged tire slashing. Well you don't have to be a brain surgeon to figure this out. First of all I know Bill Murray for years , he's an honest, caring, loving husband, father & grandfather. He's a War veteran who loves his country & his fellow man, loves to fish & enjoys the outdoors & life more than anyone I know. Most of all he does'nt have any time for the Mahoney brothers & the rest of the thugs before or now, he just wants to be left alone. They threatened his life & threatened to burn down his house if he told the police who they were, well they know who they are & we're waiting for the police to do there job. Why are the Police so apprehensive, ( in the case of a fishing violation the fisherman is taken directly to the JUDGE ) Tell me what's wrong with this picture. Please contact your Senator , Congressman or any local representative of Government that may help Bill receive JUSTICE.


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Re: SALMON RIVER ASSAULT THREAD
« Reply #82 on: Sep 23, 2010, 07:44 PM »
  THE EYEWITNESS Well here is the eyewitness account of what happened the day of the assault. I was fishing 200 yards downstream from the older gentleman who got attacked, but did not know at the time it was my friend Bill. I started to hear yelling , when I seen a guy punch another guy , honestly seen this before so did not think much of it. The yelling and punching continued and I seen 2 more guys jump in throwing punches. Then I was concerned for the guy and started yelling to them that was enough maybe 8 more fisherman were saying the same thing. But it did not stop and they started to hold him under water while 2 other people were kicking and punching him. I then realised this man's life was in serious danger, so I then started to walk up to assist the man, yelling across the river walking up to where they were, I realized that I knew it was Bill getting the beating. Then I realized who was doing the kicking and punching it was Pat Mahoney, Bob Mahoney Jr. and 3 other guys who I'm not positive who they are. One of the men with a thinner build and no shirt had a tattoo's on his chest. Once I got to a spot where I could cross the "tough guys" went running through the woods. These men are cowards. This display was pathetic to say the least. Bill is 63 and was begging them to stop , what kind of a man could do such a thing. I'm counting on justice to prevail and these "tough guys" get punished to the fullest extent of the law. I also believe there guide license's should be taken away forever . Bill is a tough man and I wish him a speedy recovery so he can get back to what he loves fishing.

THE FRIEND OF THE VICTUM Bill was beatin very badly & his injuries will take sometime to heal. He's experiencing severe headaches, blurriness, sore ribs, sore back, broken nose & bruises from his head to his knees. They even kicked him in the b--ls. They'll be in the news & newspaper before long. Lets see if they can run from the State Police. They'll be selling each other down the drain when they hear what the charges are.

This was not a fight ( it was an assault on one man by a group of thugs ) Bill Murry the 62 year old victum was beatin , kicked , choked & held underwater to the point he thought he was going to die. So lets get this clear , it was not a fight , it was a brutal attack & these thugs should of been arrested by now. It seems to me that the D.E.C. or State Police do not have there facts straight, Bill was released from Upstate Medical University & re-admitted to the V.A. hospital. As of today , 4 days have passed & still no arrests have been made. The thugs were not fishing, only Bill Murray was. They were hiding in the woods waiting for there pre-meditated attack. I keep hearing about an alleged tire slashing. Well you don't have to be a brain surgeon to figure this out. First of all I know Bill Murray for years , he's an honest, caring, loving husband, father & grandfather. He's a War veteran who loves his country & his fellow man, loves to fish & enjoys the outdoors & life more than anyone I know. Most of all he does'nt have any time for the Mahoney brothers & the rest of the thugs before or now, he just wants to be left alone. They threatened his life & threatened to burn down his house if he told the police who they were, well they know who they are & we're waiting for the police to do there job. Why are the Police so apprehensive, ( in the case of a fishing violation the fisherman is taken directly to the JUDGE ) Tell me what's wrong with this picture. Please contact your Senator , Congressman or any local representative of Government that may help Bill receive JUSTICE.


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Re: SALMON RIVER ASSAULT THREAD
« Reply #83 on: Nov 12, 2010, 01:09 PM »
so what ever happened to these yahoo's?

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Re: SALMON RIVER ASSAULT THREAD
« Reply #84 on: Nov 12, 2010, 02:49 PM »
The trial was delayed for those "YAHOOS"!!! something to do with not enough jurors or on that line!!! A real shame that it's been handled like it has!! We all hope justice prevails!! Titelines!!--KP 8)
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Re: SALMON RIVER ASSAULT THREAD
« Reply #85 on: Nov 12, 2010, 04:11 PM »
I once knew a fellow named Bill Travis, from Ithaca.  He fished from a wheelchair.  He has since passed away.  I wonder why the Mahoneys never beat him up.
what happened will never ever be forgoten belive me.  :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: >:(

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Re: SALMON RIVER ASSAULT THREAD
« Reply #86 on: Nov 12, 2010, 05:06 PM »
You got that right HT!!!! END OF STORY!!!! Real Tough Guys!!!!--KP 8)
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Re: SALMON RIVER ASSAULT THREAD
« Reply #87 on: Mar 08, 2011, 04:26 PM »
Robert Mahoney found not guilty of all charges; Patrick Mahoney guilty of one count of assault, one count of petit larceny and fighting in a fishing area.

Published: Friday, March 04, 2011, 9:06 PM Updated: Friday, March 04, 2011, 9:17 PM

By Debra J. Groom / The Post-Standard

Altmar, NY -- After about four and a half hours, the jury in the Mahoney brothers assault trial Friday night found Robert Mahoney not guilty of all charges.

Patrick Mahoney was found guilty of reckless assault, petit larceny and fighting in a fishing area. He was found not guilty of intentional assault. The assault and petit larceny charges are misdemeanors while the fishing area charge is a violation of state Department of Environmental Conservation law.

Patrick Mahoney will be sentenced at 6 p.m. May 2. Town Justice Howard Allen Jr. ordered a pre-sentence report to be done by the Oswego County probation office.

Assistant District Attorney Mark Moody said Mahoney could be sentenced to one year in jail on each misdemeanor. If the sentences ran consecutively, he would face two years in the Oswego County jail.

There also is a possibility of Patrick Mahoney losing his fishing guide license with the state DEC due to the guilty verdict on the DEC violation of fighting in a fishing area. Moody said that sentence would be handed down by the DEC and not the court.

The jury in Albion town court deliberated for about three hours, but Friday night had all of Patrick Mahoney's testimony read back to them. The read back bean at 6:45 p.m. and was done at 8:08 p.m.

The jury came back with its verdict at 8:20 p.m.

Robert Mahoney, 45, of Boylston, and Patrick Mahoney, 43, of Altmar, were accused of assaulting fisherman William Murray, 63, of Ithaca, as Murray was fishing in the Ellis Cove area of the Salmon River April 8.
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Re: SALMON RIVER ASSAULT THREAD
« Reply #88 on: Mar 15, 2011, 04:51 PM »
Just noticed this thread today.
From what I saw, this is an outrage! Both of those thugs should be locked up for a long time. 
I hope that fellow angler is doin ok now and is able to get out to do what we've all came to love....and I'll tell ya what and I'm sure many of ya agree. It sure wouldn't of went down like that if I was fishin in the immediate area and they jumped that fellow fisherman. Makes me sick, to think anyone to feel the justification of that. >:(

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Re: SALMON RIVER ASSAULT THREAD
« Reply #89 on: Mar 15, 2011, 06:46 PM »
well said Ed!
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