Maybe its a regional thing, I use gulp in Colorado and have done well drifting them on the bottom, trolling them and casting them. I catch trout, walleye and bass on them here. Exude works well too, I tend to catch several fish per gulp worm. It is a problem if you don't seal the bag, they get tough as leather and are worthless then. and if you forget to take one off a jig or crawler rig.........just toss it! I do well with chartreuse and the plain brown color.