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Has anyone out there tried this new line yet??? Just wondering how good it is??? Twelve pound test is the diameter of four pound. Makes it great for casting and retreving small lures. Thanks for any help...........
Kim
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I just did a quick google search on the stuff... I gotsta try it!!
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Bassjunky has two reviews on his blog:
The first review:
http://bassjunkiesfishingaddiction.blogspot.com/2011/07/berkley-nanofil-wheres-beef.html (http://bassjunkiesfishingaddiction.blogspot.com/2011/07/berkley-nanofil-wheres-beef.html)
And an update:
http://bassjunkiesfishingaddiction.blogspot.com/2011/08/berkley-nanofil-update.html (http://bassjunkiesfishingaddiction.blogspot.com/2011/08/berkley-nanofil-update.html)
If you all haven't been to his blog, you're missing out. There's some great stuff on there...
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I have used it a few times now and am impressed! The 8pd breaks at probably 14ish. Thin, slick, and casts great. I've been a big fan of Fireline since it came out and Nanofil to me, is a amped up better version.
Im on vacation this comming week and will be using it for everything from panfish, to jigging eyes, to topwater smallies. I'll report back more then...
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I read Junkies blog... I don't like Fireline one little bit, and I would fish with just about anything before crystal. If it is being compared to Fireline, I may just opt out of this one. Life is too short to fight with line.
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yea fireline is garbage I lost some nice pike and bowfin along with some pricey lures because it just frays then snaps after a couple casts but I've had nothing but great luck with all the other berkley fishing lines
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I read Junkies blog... I don't like Fireline one little bit, and I would fish with just about anything before crystal. If it is being compared to Fireline, I may just opt out of this one. Life is too short to fight with line.
Wow ! Sounds like you've had a bad experience with Fireline.
Would you like to elaborate on what issue(s) turned you sour ?
yea fireline is garbage I lost some nice pike and bowfin along with some pricey lures because it just frays then snaps after a couple casts but I've had nothing but great luck with all the other berkley fishing lines
I've been using Fireline exclusively since it came out and have never had it snap after a few casts. Matter of fact, after 3 seasons of abuse, even though it looks frayed and discolored, it still performs great ! Everyone I know who uses it are huge fans ! Don't know what you're doing with it but it surely isn't garbage !
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I'm a power pro guy, but Freddy loves the stuff Gamma.. I tried it years ago, I didn't like the flatness, did they re-design it Gamma to a more round braid?
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I'm a power pro guy, but Freddy loves the stuff Gamma.. I tried it years ago, I didn't like the flatness, did they re-design it Gamma to a more round braid?
Yep, the new "version" is called Nanofil... It is round. Also not a braid but fused fibers. I posted a bunch of info on it in the NY forum on the "new stick" thread for Adam... 8)
After useing it a few times Im quite confident in saying it with out distance cast any line out there. ;D
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I'm a power pro guy, but Freddy loves the stuff Gamma.. I tried it years ago, I didn't like the flatness, did they re-design it Gamma to a more round braid?
Snag.
All of the current Fireline is much rounder than the original but Nano-Fil is as round as it can get ! Gives you the best of both worlds ! I know you have a hard head like me but get yourself reaquainted with Fireline or Nano-Fil and you'll use your PowerPro to weave a new net or use it for stitching the holes on a boat cover !
PowerPro was designed for baitcasters. It's dreadful on a spinning reel compared to Fireline.
Combined with the proper rod and reel, Fireline or Nano will show you what you were missing with PowerPro or other lines. ;)
Keep an eye on Freddy. ;) ;)
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Yep, the new "version" is called Nanofil... It is round. Also not a braid but fused fibers. I posted a bunch of info on it in the NY forum on the "new stick" thread for Adam... 8)
After useing it a few times Im quite confident in saying it with out distance cast any line out there. ;D
With the rods I use, I had to bring binoculars to see where my jig lands ! ;D
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Snag.
All of the current Fireline is much rounder than the original but Nano-Fil is as round as it can get ! Gives you the best of both worlds ! I know you have a hard head like me but get yourself reaquainted with Fireline or Nano-Fil and you'll use your PowerPro to weave a new net or use it for stitching the holes on a boat cover !
PowerPro was designed for baitcasters. It's dreadful on a spinning reel compared to Fireline.
Combined with the proper rod and reel, Fireline or Nano will show you what you were missing with PowerPro or other lines. ;)
Keep an eye on Freddy. ;) ;)
My season's over now..remind me next May..I'll give it a try.. I really like my power pro .. I'm looking forward to ice fishin with fred...he's the man..
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idk maybe I just got a bad batch seems like people love it but I love my powerpro
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Wow ! Sounds like you've had a bad experience with Fireline.
Would you like to elaborate on what issue(s) turned you sour ?
It's flat.
It is not abrasion resistant enough to fish rocks or wood. I find myself fishing in rocks and wood allot.
It leaves film of waxy crud on the lip of the spool and the rod guides that decreases casting distance unless you clean it off.
It does not hold it's color very well.
It does not hold a knot well (yes I know all about super line knots, and no I am not using super glue)
It gets ragged and wooly very easy. It casts and handles like sisal bailer twine and soaks up tons of water in this state.
Wind knots galore.
Sudden and unexpected failure without reason, much more than any other line I have used.
large diameter for a super line.
No matter what or where you are fishing in my area, pike are gonna be in the mix. Fireline is an easy bite off.
There are much better choices out there.
I honestly don't know why this stuff still has a flowing.
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wow why don't you tell us how you really feel ;D i have been using it for years nothing over 8# i use it for trolling jigging and ice fishing4 # lb for eyes up to 6 lbs above that i jump all the way up to 6# for the double digit ones , i must be lucky i have never had a problem with it , sorry to hear that you have had so much trouble just can't figure that one out it cast really well not strength is great ,and have caught many pike in the 10# class and never once did it get bitten off, unlike many other lines when it needs changing i just spool from one reel to another putting the bottom of the spool t the top so I'm not wasting any line ,not cheap just getting most bang for the buck , and my bud snag has good luck with his power pro ,and what ever makes you feel at ease ,then that is what you should use
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Im waiting till first ice to give it a shot. I do love the debate over line, i have been trying a bunch of different ones this season (some good/some not). Marketing is crazy.
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Im waiting till first ice to give it a shot. I do love the debate over line, i have been trying a bunch of different ones this season (some good/some not). Marketing is crazy.
My suggestion would be to start using the line now and get familiar with its properties before ice season gets here. I know it'll be different after ice up but educating yourself on a new product is always helpful. No surprises !
The debates are good ! If you can read between the lines, it's quite easy to figure out who's giving the straight scoop based on years of experience and who's not !
Some people use the same line their whole life and never give other products a chance but they're the first to post negative comments because "they heard it somewhere" or "my buddy doesn't like it"
Brand loyalty is a tough thing to break free of but in today's economy, it pays to go with a product that will cover more bases and last longer !
Check out any of the Pro Walleye fishing sites and you'll see a ton of great info on lines, their capabilities, pro's and cons !
I believe that you'll be very happy with Fireline or Nano-Fil as long as you understand it's properties and learn a few tricks of the trade and then how to balance it to your rod, reel .
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Have you guys tried the pressure treated braids yet? It is nothing like the braids of 10 years ago. No seriously...... I have spooled just about every one of them up at one time or another. The industry finally got it right.
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jammer if you use fireline without a warm shack you will not be happy it is a ice magnet , when i'm fishing out side the shack i use a different line just an ol buzzards .02 ,these days i mostly fish eyes and perch
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jammer if you use fireline without a warm shack you will not be happy it is a ice magnet , when i'm fishing out side the shack i use a different line just an ol buzzards .02 ,these days i mostly fish eyes and perch
That is the nice part about the new Nano-Fil line. It's not woven and porous like Fireline so it won't pick up or absorb water ! That factor alone will make Nano a super ice line !
With smaller but heaviar tungsten ice jigs coming to play more and more, Nano will allow you to use an even smaller diameter line that will get smaller jigs to the bottom much faster !
On a tough bite, this factor alone may be the difference in taking home fish or going home empty handed ! ;)
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I too find the line debate interesting. I wasn't going to jump in on this one, but when the people that had a different point of view were put down, I had to add my 2 cents. I have been a fishing guide and outdoor writer for 20 years now and have been lucky to get handed many of the different lines to try out. As a rep in the fishing industry I have had the pleasure of working with reps from almost all the line companies. I am not going to far in saying that part of my pay check is "Tied" to how a line does its job. I have not had a chance to try out the Nanofil line yet and I look forward to it. I say all this so it is clear that if you read between the lines you will know that I am giving the straight scoop, from my point of view... For me (and many others) the Berkley lines have been a real disappointment and even if you find one that you like, they change their formulations with out changing the packaging (with out letting you know), so one day you find a line that fits your needs, but the next package is a different line... This is straight from a Berkley rep. If they invest a bunch of money in a "Name", they are not willing to let you now they have made changes. But that is what Berkley is best at PACKAGING & MARKETING and they are very good at it.
I have said this before, if you want to see what a line can do, look at what the Tuna guys are using... THAT IS A TEST. Most anglers will never really put there line to real test, but if you want to be ready to land the fish of a life time, then look at the lines that are used by anglers catching fish that test your line...
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so your saying to test out a line is to catch bigger fish on smaller #test cause you can't compare a tuna or a marlin to a steelhead and so on, don't believe many of us use 80-200# test lines, but some us have caught kings and steelhead on light lines that seems to be a test right there , and i to will be trying out the new nano, and i have a bud that use to be on the pro tour and now is a tackle rep so i get to try new stuff out some good and some not so ,and a jig builder that lets me try things out from time to time as long as i send pics
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Compare Ande mono to Berkley mono and you will see what he means.
Pure Fishing owns Berkley, Spiderwire, Stren, Johnson, Shakespeare, and others. They are nothing but a giant marketing machine now.
http://www.purefishing.com/our-brands (http://www.purefishing.com/our-brands)
I used to be the the biggest fan of Trilene XT on the planet. The stuff has changed over the past few years and it is not nearly as good as it was. It is still good line, but it is just not a standout like it was.
I was in love with Berkley Micro ice, but it seems like they changed that in 2010.
It is frustrating to do the work and spend the money to figure out what works, then to have them change it on me.
I spooled my Abu Garcia C3 with Ande 20lb high vis for catfish last night. It was really great line that I will begin to use in other aplications... It is tough as hell, handles nicely, casts like a bullet and has incredibly low spool memory. It feels like the old XT before they goofed with it. ;D I should mention that Ande is cheaper than compost too...
We BUTCHERED the kittys... nearly 50 fish before midnight. A few were over 8, two were over ten. Best catfishing trip of my life!!!
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Sorry I did not make myself clearer... Testing brands of line on fish like a tuna is what I am talking about, not the lb rating.
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Great input guys! Line is a personal deal and change,marketing,species and conditions make it vary to all. On the topic i am a fan of ande and powerpro. I have fireline on a couple poles and no problem. I will have nanofil on jig poles (tested).
This weeks findings was sufix did ok (i know) and pline was very good hauling in many large bass.
Jammer
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let us know who ever tries it out first i'm in the hot seat helping get a couple of jobs finished up then it's back at it [fishing]
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I too find the line debate interesting. I wasn't going to jump in on this one, but when the people that had a different point of view were put down, I had to add my 2 cents. I don't see anywhere that people were put down at all. Can you point it/them out please ?
I have been a fishing guide and outdoor writer for 20 years now and have been lucky to get handed many of the different lines to try out. As a rep in the fishing industry I have had the pleasure of working with reps from almost all the line companies. I am not going to far in saying that part of my pay check is "Tied" to how a line does its job. I have not had a chance to try out the Nanofil line yet and I look forward to it. I say all this so it is clear that if you read between the lines you will know that I am giving the straight scoop, from my point of view... What makes your point of view any better than the next guy ? It's an opinion. Just like everyone elses ! Personally, I'd much rather hear the opinions of someone who has used a product for years and has become familiar with it through experience and many hours of testing in various conditions. Several people here are or have been Reps in the fishing tackle industry and/or are guides, charter captains, Pro tournament fishermen or have worked in wholesale/retail. Of all mentioned, I'd put my trust in the tournament fishermen and charter captains before any others ! Not saying that you don't have experience with Fireline or Nano-Fil but trying to convince people that your word is better than theirs because you're an industry rep just doesn't cut it !
For me (and many others) the Berkley lines have been a real disappointment Please elaborate ! and even if you find one that you like, they change their formulations with out changing the packaging (with out letting you know), Seriously ? How many times can this happens before a company looses their customer base ? It may have happened with Vanish in the early stages and they did change the formula of Trilene a while back but as a Rep in the industry, these changes were announced long before they happened via the industry's trade publication ! It was no secret ! With technology constantly changing, there's going to be changes in lines no matter what ! so one day you find a line that fits your needs, but the next package is a different line... If you're fishing with mono, copolymers or flourocarbons, I highly doubt that the Berkley changes their lines by the time you wear out one master spool ! If you're a guide and you're not frequently changing lines, I don't see the line company (Berkley in this situation) as being at fault !
This is straight from a Berkley rep. If they invest a bunch of money in a "Name", they are not willing to let you now they have made changes. But that is what Berkley is best at PACKAGING & MARKETING and they are very good at it. As a Berkley Rep, it would be quite dumb to jeopardize his/her position by making comments like that ! Berkley patents their name brands just as other companies do. After a certain amount of time, they analyze all aspects of the product(s) that fall under that name. If there are problems with quality, they make every attempt to fix it ! It may mean that the new and improved line doesn't do what YOU want it to do but it's not about YOU or ME ! It's the "General Fishing Public" ! I've said it before. We're a drop of water in the sea !
I have said this before, if you want to see what a line can do, look at what the Tuna guys are using... THAT IS A TEST. That has absolutely nothing to do with this topic....unless someone changed it to a Tuna Fishing line topic !
Most anglers will never really put there line to real test, That's absolutely wrong ! Most anglers who buy a balanced rod and reel and a line that stays within the confines of the rod and reels line weight designation, puts the line to test every time they hook a fish ! That's why those numbers are on the rods and reels ! This is where people have problems with Fireline. They see that they can get 20 lb test in 6 lb diameter and they put it on a rod that's rated for 4 to 10 lb line ! Usually ends up with immediate rod/reel failure ! but if you want to be ready to land the fish of a life time, then look at the lines that are used by anglers catching fish that test your line... I've got no comment for the last line other than
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Fireline is ok, try power pro, or better yet suffix 832. Fireline crystal was the worst mistake I ever made. :cursing: Seeing comparisons between nanofil and crystal....I won't evern give it a shot.
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I've used Fireline, Power Pro, original Spiderwire, Sufix 832 and Spiderwire Stealth, and Spiderwire Ultracast Fluorobraid. I've had good results and minimal problems.
For both braided and fused lines, here are the pros and cons:
Pros:
Great for fishing jigs and plastic worms, can feel everything from bites to bottom cover
Strong as heck with regard to pulling pressure, poundage.
A simple palomar knot works well for most applications.
Casts as good as mono in most cases, but not quite as good as Fluoro
You can take the line off and put it back on easily, reversing the ends for added durability
I lose less lures
They make great fly rod backing too!
Cons:
The waxy surface stuff does wear off and the color changes in a short amount of time, not just on one, but all of them. I'm still using all of them on my various reels.
The color stands out and is more visible than mono or fluorocarbon lines
After many uses, they all fray and become weaker, but still a lot stronger than mono.
Pike, pickerel, and musky teeth cut through all of them like butter.
When using certain techniques, some of the brands (in the smallest diameters especially) will get so called wind knots. The rate of getting them is no more than getting line twists in mono.
When setting the hook on hooked fish, the line digs in and your next cast will be a short one (or after freeing a snag).
If you set the hook too hard, the line will break at the knot, especially in the smaller diameters, so a short snap hook set is best
Many knots don't work
Braided vs. Fused
Braided line is more round, and in smaller diameter casts a bit better than fused line, but tends to knot up more. But the fused lines tend to be softer, but I haven't noticed an advantage or disadvantage. Fused lines wear out faster than braid, but both last much longer than mono or fluorocarbon. Neither twist, and backlashes can be easy to pick out if you're patient. In other words, I haven't had to cut out backlashes near as much as mono.
I feel that all of them have served me well when used in certain situations, and some don't cut it in other situations. Here are my thoughts on that:
All work well when fishing worms or jigs.
None good for topwater plugs, crankbaits, spinnerbaits or jerkbaits, but are OK for buzzbaits. The lack of stretch seems to be a problem with fish ripping large holes in their mouths on the hookset. But, more limber rods, or fiberglass rods can ease that issue.
Smaller diameter lines for finesse fishing are OK, except I've found that for soft jerkbaits, like super flukes, the twitching/reeling technique tends to cause tangles (the so called wind knots). I rarely have it happen when jig fishing.
So, I like them all for jig fishing and worm fishing for bass, and will continue to use them. I take reviews of brands on these lines, good or bad, with a grain of salt and let my own experience tell me. If I had to rank the ones that I'm most confident in, I'd say it would be Power Pro, Fireline, Spiderwire Ultracast Fluorobraid, Spiderwire, and Spiderwire Stealth coming in last. The only reason for that is that I had a lot of the "wind knots" but it could have been the pattern that I was using (tried using it fishing sluggos), but if I remember right, it worked fine when fishing tubes.
I currently have spooled up and use:
Powerpro on my musky/striper set up
Sufix 832 on my flipping/pitching rod
Spiderwire Ultracast Fluorobraid on one spool for my medium spinning rod for plastic worms
Fireline on one spool with my other medium spinning outfit.
I don't use monofilament any more. When fishing clear water or if I get a feeling that the fish are finicky, I use Seaguar fluorocarbon line. I use fluorocarbon for all of my trout fishing. I see no reason to go back to mono. But, I have one spool of PLine fluoroclear, which I also like.
As you can see, I'm not brand concious, and I know the superline limitations. And, I will use braid in most situations first before changing to fluorocarbon unless I have a sense that the other may be more productive right off the bat. There are bodies of water that run gin clear, and those are the situations that I start out with fluorocarbon.
I tried Fireline crystal and didn't like the feel for it, so I took it off my reels. I honestly didn't give it a good chance though, so it's sitting there as a backup line in case I need to respool in an emergency. I trust that it should perform as well as Fireline though.
So far, I'm very pleased with the Sufix 832. I just bought it and tried it out on my flipping rod and a spool for my spinning outfit. No problems to report, but I haven't noticed that much better performance than the others. It may cast a bit better though.
I will try Nanofil because the extra casting distance intrigues me. I will report my findings afterwards with an honest, unbiased review. In summary, the superlines are not good for every application, but for those that it's good for, it far outperforms other lines.
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Gamma Fish is a super fan!!!! ;D
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Gamma Fish is a super fan!!!! ;D
Sure Am ! I'm a Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers Fan ! :thumbup_smilie: :bowdown: :thumbup_smilie:
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And a super fishing line fanboy! Or do you work for berkley?
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And a super fishing line fanboy! Or do you work for berkley?
Absolutely NOT ! If Love and use Stren "Microfuse" as much as Fireline ! Microfuse is actually very similar to Nano-Fil and it's been out for a few years. Berkely just took it to another level !
If Bekely didn't provide Fireline and Nano-Fil, and Stren with Micrfuse, I'd still be using Bagely Silver Thread, ANDE Pink (in cold weather), Golden Stren and Trilene Solar...with a bit of Triple Fish Flourocarbon tossed in ;)
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I bought some Nanofil last night. It spooled up real nice with no problems. I'm going to try and get out this evening for a bass bite, weather permitting. I plan on using this for finessing bass with soft plastics. I was using Spiderwire Fluorobraid. It was OK, but so far I like the Suffix 832 the best, followed by Power Pro, then Fireline. I'll report on my findings tomorrow, and then later to see how it holds up over time.
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OK, I had about an hour and a half to fish. The water was gin clear. I caught seven largemouth on the Nanofil, lost zero. I was sight fishing and every fish that I saw except one, I caught. I was using a 4" plastic worm, light weight, light wire worm hook, and 2 pound diameter 6 pound test Nanofil. It casts like a dream, much further than any other braid or fused line that I've ever used even of the same diameter. It's far more smooth than other braids, and shoots through the guides with ease. It was so smooth that it almost felt weird, and it casts so far that I actually over shot my target a few times until I got used to it. Like other superlines, it has no stretch, the line is stronger than the pound test rating I think, and you don't need a massive hook set, just a quick snap of the wrist and the hook is driven home. Even though the line is white, I didn't see it in the water hardly at all, but granted it was low light conditions the last hour prior to dark. The fish definitely didn't care. The action of the plastic worm looked great as it should with this bait. I had no problems at all with loops coming off the spool, "wind" knots, or anything like that and I think that I even overfilled the spool. So far so good. I know that this little bit of testing isn't much, but so far I'm very impressed. Time will tell if further experiences are positive or not. I'll report back.
Here's one of the fish that I got on the light Nanofil line/worm combo, all of the fish were this size (11-12") that I caught on it tonight:
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I switched tactics right at dark because I started seeing lots of frogs along the shoreline and there was a little surface activity, so I went to a buzzbait. I got this fish on my third cast (below). If it had a belly at all it would have gone 5 pounds, but I'd say it was on the skinny side, probably three and a half to four pounds or so... It was 21" long, but man was it lean. It kind of reminded me of one of those Lake Erie largemouth.
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Fat Boy: Very interesting, as I'm about to re-spool a couple. Any comparisons with Sufix 832 that you could make? Thanks!
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Up until I tried this line, the 832 seemed like the best casting line. Nanofil casts much better for the same pound test, it's thinner too. It's not as stiff as 832, is much more limber than I expected, and seems to come off the spool and through the guides smoothly. Casting was effortless with the Nanofil. With the 832, I had to put some oomph into my casts just to get close to the distance. So far, the Nanofil was pretty tough and handled the fish nicely. It's still early in my analysis though.
Questions to be answered:
How durable is this line after hours, days, or weeks of use? I've only got an hour and a half using it so far.
What issues with the poundage/breaking strength might I have, or maybe no issues?
What about line twist, coils, memory, "wind knots", and other problems after the lines been used and on the spool a while?
How will it perform using other lures and techniques?
How will smallmouth in clear streams react to the visibility of the line?
So far, I like this stuff a lot. But, only time will tell when it comes to answering these questions.
The 832 withstood all the tests and only one time did I have to switch to fluorocarbon to get bites. I wonder if the Nanofil will be as successful. I will report back after a few trips, but so far, I think it's worth the investment.
My last question is, what will happen if this becomes the line that everyone is trying to beat technology wise? Can you imagine? Maybe a superline that runs clear like fluorocarbon????
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Fat Boy, These reports are great.I purchased it but have not used it. I want to find how it holds up. What if any are your thoughts on pline?
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I used to use PLine Fluorocarbon and also Fluoroclear (the copolymer) with good results. I've been a Seaguar fluorocarbon user of late, but I'd use the PLine again if I had to. It's good line. On all of those I use a dose of Reel Magic each time I go out (I've heard that DW 40 works just as well). I've never tried the PLine braid.
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Thanks, I too use seaguar (great stuff). Ive been casting many hours this season and am haveing very good results with fluoroclear. Ill give the nano a try this week.
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Fat Boy: Thanks for your thoughts on 832 and Nanofil! Must give N a try.
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You're welcome NB.
For the record, everyone, I'm not being endorsed by Berkley or paid by them in any way. If I have problems with this line, you can bet that I'll post them here.
I used to rely on Berkley Trilene XT, and when they came out with Vanish, I was on board with that. But, I had problems with that line breaking on hook sets, sometimes breaking for no reason, too much memory, line twists, etc. I tried other lines with better results, including PLine and Seaguar fluorocarbon lines. Although I liked XT when I did use it, I won't be going back to it. Between fluorocarbon lines and superlines, I'm satisfied that technology has moved forward and that these lines are improved, at least for my type of fishing. After my problems with Vanish, I doubt that I'd be going back to Berkley fluorocarbon lines, unless I hear good things about a future new product.
So, bottom line, stay tuned on future reviews of Nanofil as I try it for various applications. So far, my light line finesse worming techniques have a place for this line.
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I put a few more hours in this evening and put the Nanofil to the test. The results aren't quite as rosy this time. Everything that I reported last time was pretty much the same, except that I broke four fish off on the hookset. It wasn't the fish being big, but just a quick snap set was too much pressure on the line at the knot. I tried various knots, and none worked any better than the other as far as break offs go. This is not a new thing with superlines, especially those with very low diameters and lower pound test. I've had it happen with all brands. So, I think that I may relegate this spool of line towards ice fishing, and purchase the next size or two up so that I don't have to worry about my hook sets any longer, probably 8 pound test or maybe even 10. Still, this line had it's moments. None of my breakoffs occurred during fighting the fish, so the line strength is very good. I still caught 17 largemouth bass on the Nanofil this evening.
Below are some pics of some of the bass caught on the Nanofil tonight:
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Thanks again for the report and good job nailing them. I get alittle lip-rip happy and always go 8lb +.
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Yeah, I got greedy with the thin diameter, visualizing casting to bassy worlds once beyond my reach. I think that the larger diameter/heavier test will do the trick, and still cast further than the other lines that I've been using. Until I change it out, I just have to remember to take it friggin easy on the hook sets! Once I started doing that, the hooks were driven home just fine with very little pressure. I'll admit that I got frustrated for awhile, and would have changed the spool out except that I left my other ones in the car (on purpose, to give it a fair test).
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Also, I forgot to mention it. I pretty much abused this thin line, tossing into weeds, getting hung up on briars and such. I was able to haul bass out of the slop (I never would have thought that I could do that with such thin line). But, the line will fray after some of that abuse. Snip off a few feet every now and then and you're good to go. I only noticed it on the first few feet of line. I trimmed off about 4' total last night. I hadn't done that much with Suffix 832 or Power Pro, so that is one negative thing to compare. That said, I trim a few feet off my fluorocarbon line every now and then for the same reason, and Seaguar isn't that much cheaper. I used to trim mono all the time, and respool almost weekly.
With fluorocarbon, I respool about once every three months and haven't had problems at all. With superlines, I've pulled it off and reversed spooling it, but it lasts all season. I read, I think in Bassmaster, that you should change out your braid yearly, that after constant use it weakens over time. I'd bet it's the same thing for Nanofil.
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Also, I forgot to mention it. I pretty much abused this thin line, tossing into weeds, getting hung up on briars and such. I was able to haul bass out of the slop (I never would have thought that I could do that with such thin line). But, the line will fray after some of that abuse. Snip off a few feet every now and then and you're good to go. I only noticed it on the first few feet of line. I trimmed off about 4' total last night. I hadn't done that much with Suffix 832 or Power Pro, so that is one negative thing to compare. That said, I trim a few feet off my fluorocarbon line every now and then for the same reason, and Seaguar isn't that much cheaper. I used to trim mono all the time, and respool almost weekly.
With fluorocarbon, I respool about once every three months and haven't had problems at all. With superlines, I've pulled it off and reversed spooling it, but it lasts all season. I read, I think in Bassmaster, that you should change out your braid yearly, that after constant use it weakens over time. I'd bet it's the same thing for Nanofil.
Abrasion was the only negative i could come up with on this line also. Retying often solved the problem. I was jigging on a sharp rocky shoal in Canada, after losing quite a few fish to break offs, and blaming the knots.. ::) i noticed the frayed line after only a few casts..and just made sure i kept an eye on it.
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thanks for the detailed nanofil report!
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Havent tried Nano yet. I Like Fireline But you need to break it in. it lasts forever and i find it better the 2nd season i use it. Call me crazy I also use and really like Berkely big game. tough no twist. I have landed my biggest pike to date (23lbs) on 6lb trilene xt! a very good line. Power pro is strong and casts well but it is always birdnesting (spinning reel). That never ever happens when i use fireline. Nanofil for pike may not be the right application.
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Here's another observation, not really good or bad, just weird. You can cast this line a long way, a well known fact now. But when you do make a long cast, the line hangs in the air long before your lure lands, like it floats. I don't think it's a problem though. For example, you'd think that when a fish hits your lure as soon as it hits the water, as they often do, that you wouldn't feel the bite. But, what I've noticed is that it doesn't matter because the line has zero stretch and is very senstive, so you still feel the bite even though your line is bowed in the air.
Still, it's the friggin weirdest feeling. The only time that I've experienced that happening with any other line was during a thunderstorm using mono, when the line wouldn't fall...
...just an observation, again, not good or bad I think.
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Thanks fat boy, i want to see how it makes out thru a frozen hole.
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Thanks fat boy, i want to see how it makes out thru a frozen hole.
Yep, me too!