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hello
here is the answer to a question that was posted under Title - (Perch)
Q. was if perch can be used for bait: for correct answer
I emailed NYS DEC Fishiers and here is reply I received 10:44 AM (2 hours ago)
FROM :
Warm water Fisheries Unit Leader, Division of Fish and Wildlife
New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
625 Broadway, Albany, 12233-4753
P: (518) 402-8897 | F: (518) 402-8925 | [email protected]
Loukmas, Jeffrey J (DEC) <[email protected]>
to dec.sm.FWFish, me
Hi Mr. Simmons
To keep it simple I provided an answer to each one of your questions below.
Please feel free to get in touch with me directly if you’d like to discuss further.
Regards
Jeff Loukmas
Warm water Fisheries Unit Leader, Division of Fish and Wildlife
New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
625 Broadway, Albany, 12233-4753
P: (518) 402-8897 | F: (518) 402-8925 | [email protected]
www.dec.ny.gov |
From: dec.sm.FWFish <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 10:19 AM
To: Loukmas, Jeffrey J (DEC) <[email protected]>
Subject: FW: using fish for bait ?
From: Ralph Simmons <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 9:07 AM
To: dec.sm.FWFish <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: using fish for bait ?
Question :
Can one use Bluegills,Sunfish,Perch,Crappie for bait?.
Crappie are consider a game fish due to size and daily limits .
ALL above fish are game fish
ANS: IS / YES : if the fish you caught by angling is in season,
and meets the minimum size limit,
and is within your possession limit, you can use that fish for bait.
ANY fish used as bait counts toward your daily limit .
Yes, sunfish and perch are considered game fish too.
using any blue gill,sunfish,crappie as bait does it count toward your daily limit.? Yes, see above.
Q..must they only be used , in same body water you got them from to stop spread of diseases ?
ANSWER Yes, they can only be used as bait ONLY in the same water body from which they were caught.
thank you
I know its early for open water but though i would relay this from post in ice shanty.com
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Not sure what you're trying to convey here. Is there a point to this?
Rg
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Not sure what you're trying to convey here. Is there a point to this?
Rg
Last few lines I think Bob. Specifically the last line.
I think he's only bringing info from that "other" place over here for us to see.
"ANSWER Yes, they can only be used as bait ONLY in the same water body from which they were caught.
thank you
I know its early for open water but though i would relay this from post in ice shanty.com"
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I suppose so.
Rg
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Your correct Mac it came over from shanty no idea why maybe he had to much sugar in his coffee and posted wrong place lol
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Morning guys
Yes it’s spill over , a guy asked a simple question and it got out of control , imagine that 😜
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Now I remember why I don't get over there much any more.
Rg
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Now I remember why I don't get over there much any more.
Rg
I gave up
How many times can you discuss vex vs other depthfinders? Etc.
And a year like this one, with little to no ice, they get silly over there.
Well.....sillier than here anyway.
🤣🤣🤣
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Yeah, there's some serious OCD going on over there.
Rg
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I gave up
How many times can you discuss vex vs other depthfinders? Etc.
And a year like this one, with little to no ice, they get silly over there.
Well.....sillier than here anyway.
🤣🤣🤣
VEX!!?? Hummingbird is the best everyone knows that!! LOL :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
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Yeah, there's some serious OCD going on over there.
Rg
Vex, Marcum, etc.
They are still flashers.
Lol
I had a Huminbird flasher back in the early \80’s. These guys probably use sharpened animal bones instead of hooks.
Speaking of really old animal bones, ***censored**** has Trap been???
Hey Bob. Where’s your little antagonist pal been?
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Trapp is on shanty pissing people off...
Been deleating a lot of his posts and the responces to him..
Oneida thread has been locked a couple times so far.. 8)
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Mama always said " don't play with the pigs.....you'll just get dirty and smell bad"
Life's too short for that stuff Mac.
Bob
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Trapp is on shanty pissing people off...
Been deleating a lot of his posts and the responces to him..
Oneida thread has been locked a couple times so far.. 8)
Oh
Ok
I thought he died.
:rotflol:
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Or they finally locked his a$$ up
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Well, he's one of a kind.....but, aren't we all?
Rg
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Well, he's one of a kind.....but, aren't we all?
Rg
Yup
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Vex, Marcum, etc.
They are still flashers.
Not quite 😉 just perch
(https://i.postimg.cc/7ftLvPML/5-A9-EB6-FC-3-B44-4601-AD42-3476-B7-DACD9-D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7ftLvPML)
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Vex, Marcum, etc.
They are still flashers.
Not quite 😉 just perch
(https://i.postimg.cc/7ftLvPML/5-A9-EB6-FC-3-B44-4601-AD42-3476-B7-DACD9-D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7ftLvPML)
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Ok
And.....
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I to have been around all that tech since the 70s ,went from flasher to paper to the more modern of today
They all give the same info just present in a different format is all
There are differences between the two
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I have an FL-18 that was given to me by a friend. Most days on the ice I find it a distraction. I have a simple hummingbird in the boat. Mostly all I need to know is where the bottom is.
The boat is going down the road in the spring. No need for depth finders on the stream.....unless you're nymphing.
Rg
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I use to own a fl18 vex flasher , dependable and indestructible
At least while trolling or ice fishing you know if your fishing dead water ,
Far as on the stream we are our own fish finders , (reading water) just like electronics some are better than others 😉🎣
If we lump all fish finders in a group they are all sonars
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It's a definite plus most days on the ice. Only trolling I've done in the past 10 years iis on the canal for eyes.
After the boat is gone I might set up a kayak and explore the small waters around here.
Rg
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Wish I could fish out of a kayak, got some great places I fish that it would be great
But my back wouldn't take it ,
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That's a serious consideration Fred. I'm thinking I'm going to look at a raised seat design. But, I'm still in the beginning stages of looking. There's a good shop on Irondequoit bay that I'm going to visit. So many options out there today.
Rg
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Same here Fred hurts my back and legs..
Bob what happened to your little pontoon boat????
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Look for a sit on top fishing kayak with a seat that has a back support. Put in some padding on seat and lumbar support pillow. You can move your legs around so you don't cramp up. I have a spinal fusion from a tree stand fall and it works for me. Walmart has good selection and cheapest price.
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Same here Fred hurts my back and legs..
Bob what happened to your little pontoon boat????
That went several years ago. Great for rivers and streams, terrible for any kind of open water. Didn't track at all. Got back all my $$
Thanks for the advice Catfisher. So far the best yak I've looked at is the Bonafide SS127. Long time till I pull the trigger. But it's the best thought out craft I've seen yet.
Ough. Rg
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That ss127 elevated seat looks like the way to go. Way better than what I have. I should have done more research. Now you're going to make me buy another one. THANKS.
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Wish I could fish out of a kayak, got some great places I fish that it would be great
But my back wouldn't take it ,
If it makes you feel better Fred, Im 36 and my back wouldn't take it either.
Also this thread made me laugh...is this what happens here off season?
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If it makes you feel better Fred, Im 36 and my back wouldn't take it either.
Also this thread made me laugh...is this what happens here off season?
It’s still entertaining here year round, just a bit slower than normal. I was wondering about trap too...
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It’s still entertaining here year round, just a bit slower than normal. I was wondering about trap too...
It is , far as trapp they tossed out the mold for a reason lmao
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That went several years ago. Great for rivers and streams, terrible for any kind of open water. Didn't track at all. Got back all my $$
Thanks for the advice Catfisher. So far the best yak I've looked at is the Bonafide SS127. Long time till I pull the trigger. But it's the best thought out craft I've seen yet.
Ough. Rg
Bob I have had an ocean kayak 13' I modified the seat so would raised and more comfortable...one problem is little less stable...considering some small pontoons. Have had it several years now and love it...gone fly fishing for gills and in saltwater for reds and sea trout...absolutely enjoy fishing from it.
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Well Bob...I just checked out that Boniface ss127 online and see why you like it.....makes me think now. Darn you Bob!!
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It is , far as trapp they tossed out the mold for a reason lmao
When Trapp was born he came out yelling at the DR the dr didnt slap him he slapped his mother and said make sure another one like that is never made lol
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heyyyyyyyyyyyy you can't use fish for bait that is illegal ... i know a guy that used a small perch and the game warden dragged him off in hand cuffs
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heyyyyyyyyyyyy you can't use fish for bait that is illegal ... i know a guy that used a small perch and the game warden dragged him off in hand cuffs
That maybe but show me in the book where perch are illegal To catch or considered a game fish in NY , really unnecessary for the cuffs just write an appearance ticket
Once I intervened as an officer tried to arrest a person for keeping a trout that was in season hear but not from where she came from , they even threatened to arrest me , had to to the truck and read it to them I always carry a copy with me
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they used a black jack on him too freddie .......and a taser .....
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they used a black jack on him too freddie .......and a taser .....
Guess he knows how a fish feels quivering on the shore
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i remeber when i was a kid we were at camp and i threw a frog in the water and he started swimming ....mr bass made a splash and the frog was gone .....it was a reality lesson on the food chain .....big fish eat little fish ;D ..............and frogs
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We have a pond out back with a bunch of blue bird nest boxes around it and when we find field mouse nests in them we throw them in the pond and watch the bass eat them.. 8)
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fly tying i came up with a spun deer hair mouse i have caught bass pike brown trout and bowfin on it over the years ........ i had a blue bird that kept pecking at the window ,i think seen his reflection ....