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MFF US Northeast => New York => Topic started by: Raquettedacker on Apr 26, 2020, 05:44 AM
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https://www.newyorkupstate.com/outdoors/2020/04/the-nys-canal-system-will-not-open-may-15-possibly-only-parts-after-that.html (https://www.newyorkupstate.com/outdoors/2020/04/the-nys-canal-system-will-not-open-may-15-possibly-only-parts-after-that.html)
If they dont raise the water level thats going to kill a lot of fish...
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I am not a canal guy, never fished it, never been on it. I have often wonder, where do the fish go when they lower it. I know some must stay in the water that remains but it looks like not a lot of water in some areas....
Now if fishing season was open and the boat in the water, I could go out and think about....h2l
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I just came home from fishing the half full section near my home. Got 6 really nice perch, could have kept another half bucket of gills (but didn't). Caught 5 bullhead a few white perch and a small pike. In 3 hours.
I'm always amazed at the abundance of fish and species in the canal. Especially since a couple weeks ago it was a mere trickle of water.
I'm sure they'll open it when they can. There's a lot of tourism dollars generated by the canal system.
Rg
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In the BN today -
Erie Canal will not open on May 15, Canal Corp. confirms
The Erie Canal and the other waterways in the New York State Canal System will not open as scheduled May 15, and a state announcement hinted that the canal might open only in sections this year.
The state Canal Corp. posted a notice on its website last week confirming the expectations of canal users that the canal wouldn't open on time. Offseason repairs and maintenance were halted in mid-March at eight locations, including Lockport, because of Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo's Covid-19 PAUSE initiative.
"However, to support the Canal's continued use as a prime recreational waterway, the Canal Corporation is currently evaluating operational options to ensure New Yorkers will have access to the Canal system, if even potentially on a regional basis, this season," the notice said.
"We recognize that this is an extraordinarily difficult time and are sensitive to potential hardships Canal stakeholders, as well as many other New Yorkers, may experience. The situation with Covid-19 is ever-evolving and we are trying to adapt our plans accordingly," the state notice continued.
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I read that yestrday. My section still at the same level. Hoping it fills. My home waters.
Fished it today from shore. Bullhead, white perch, some really nice perch, a few good sized largemouth, bluegills and a sucker.
It's the potpourri of fishing.
Rg
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Ever get any walleyes Bob.
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Bob, did you use your ties?
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Ever get any walleyes Bob.
I was wondering the same thing. ::)
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Never know what you will catch in the canal. Its got more fish spices than any single lake in NY.. Yes there's big walleye in there my biggest was 8 LBS on a bass crankbait.. Big tiger muskys and huge catfish..Along with almost everything else
that swims in nys waters..
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Ever get any walleyes Bob.
Ill never tell!
No fly rods where im fishing right now. Not enough room.
Rg
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Sink full from the canal.
(https://i.postimg.cc/tYPkKMJN/IMG-3339.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tYPkKMJN)
No sir, theres no fish in the canal. I'd go somewhere else if I were you.
Rg
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That is a fish smorgasbord!
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Nice job Bob... :thumbup_smilie:
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no wonder there's no fish in t6he canal, you caught them all! Nice haul.
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Almost as much fun as my "backyard stream".
Cant wait to break out the flyrod for some bass and gills.
Rg
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Canal in my section came up more than a foot in the past 2 days. Looks like I'll be good to go after I get the hitch on my vehicle.
Rg
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Up another foot or so last night. Still fishable from shore for me. Found a few nice perch and bluegill with a bonus bullhead and this guy.
(https://i.postimg.cc/v44wMxQj/IMG-3353.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v44wMxQj)
Around 4 lbs or so. Took a piece of worm about 1" long.
First carp of the year anyway.
Rg
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When does that mulberry bite fire up? I like those posts.
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Sometime towards the end of June. Its a hoot for sure.
Rg
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Hey RG, you ever fish Mud Creek out that way?
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There are no fish in Ganargua Creek...i repeat....no fish! :whistling:
Its about in my backyard.
Rg
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If all your fishing buddies came over and threw a fish into it, it should be pretty good! What do you think? ;D ;D ;D ;D
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LOL, no wonder I can't find any fish in it! ::)
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Its a fun stream for bluegill, Rockies and the occasional smallmouth. The downstream end from Alderman road to the canal is best.
That aside its a phenomenal stream for carp on the fly rod......if you have the patience.
Canal came up another few inches overnight.
Rg
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I have spent a lot of time on it more so when I was a kid and would look forward to the middle of May when the water would clear up.
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Seems more like June these days.
I like it when i can wet wade it and forget the waders.
Rg
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The canal is being filled between Pittsford and Newark locks. Most likely downstream from that as well.
My section has a few feet to go. Ill be happy to,get my boat in the water.
Rg
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Its a fun stream for bluegill, Rockies and the occasional smallmouth. The downstream end from Alderman road to the canal is best.
That aside its a phenomenal stream for carp on the fly rod......if you have the patience.
Canal came up another few inches overnight.
Rg
My favorite section of mud creek to fish alderman to canal.
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Latest announcement is that canal workers have returned to work and the canal should be entirely open by July 4. Hopefully they will complete the work on the Rochester lock33 and fill the sections through to Newark sooner than that.
Those sections fill mainly from the Genesee river. Im anxiously awaiting!
Rg
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I was by the section between Amsterdam and Scotia yesterday, it seems so strange not seeing it filled. Did see some guys fishing what little water there is. Has to be like fishing in a barrel, if there are any fish in there....h2l
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. Has to be like fishing in a barrel, if there are any fish in there....h2l
Yeah thats what i was thinking.. ;D
Maybe drop the rowboat in somewhere tomorrow or Monday... 8)
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Took the 2 wt and some flies to the canal this morning. Caught more gills than I could count. Some really nice ones at that. Water in my section is about 5-6' in the middle. Saw several carp porposing, bass taking minnows on the surface and bait everywhere.
Freezer is pretty full so today was a sportfishing day.
Gotta tie some more "Double Martinis"...today!
Rg
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Yeah thats what i was thinking.. ;D
Maybe drop the rowboat in somewhere tomorrow or Monday... 8)
I see where an elderly lady in Pittsford got confused and dropped her car in there. They got her and her submerged car out OK.
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Syracuse.com is reporting canal will be open by July 4th. The work is resuming now.
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I was by the section between Amsterdam and Scotia yesterday, it seems so strange not seeing it filled. Did see some guys fishing what little water there is. Has to be like fishing in a barrel, if there are any fish in there....h2l
You weren’t kidding! Took NY30 south out of Amsterdam today and you could almost walk across the canal!
There was a family walking on land in the middle, to the east of NY30 which I assume is normally underwater
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Canal in my section came up about a foot yesterday. About 3 feet more and I can launch. The marina that rents the Packett Boats is frantically getting boats out of storage. They have a dozen or so and also have another 20 slips for the yachts and houseboats.
Things are looking up!
Rg
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Up another couple feet overnight. Had to come home and get my waders to fly fish this morning. Caught osme nice gills again. Saw some carp feeding in the shallows. I'm getting anxious.
Rg
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Canal has about another foot and a half to go and I can launch. Lock attendant was back at work today. Looks like they're not going to fill the section from Macedon to Palmyra just yet.
Rg
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Here's their work schedule and projected completion dates.
http://www.canals.ny.gov/news/Project_List_for_2020_Reopening.html (http://www.canals.ny.gov/news/Project_List_for_2020_Reopening.html)
Rg
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Canal has about another foot and a half to go and I can launch. Lock attendant was back at work today. Looks like they're not going to fill the section from Macedon to Palmyra just yet.
Rg
Have you had a chance to field test the new finder yet?
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Not yet. I'll probably wait till Tuesday at this point. I'm not going to battle the holiday crowd.
Rg
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Canal is full. Boats were out in force yesterday. I'm biding my time.
Rg
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that's good the lyons/clyde river area still low
the old clyde river road area not enough water to fill tea pot
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They're filling the section between Macedon and Palmyra.
Rg
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I just wonder how many fish died during this fiasco...didn't understand how not working on the locks during shutdown made any sense since most of the work is outside and rarely see more than 1 or 2 workers at a time...unnecessary!
Just my 2cents and I'm sticking to it!
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the left wants to shut everything down to make current officials look as bad as they can. a lot of the so called rules do absolutly nothing to help the cause. this entire thing has been blown way out of proportion! the more left the state officials are the worse it is.
I just wonder how many fish died during this fiasco...didn't understand how not working on the locks during shutdown made any sense since most of the work is outside and rarely see more than 1 or 2 workers at a time...unnecessary!
Just my 2cents and I'm sticking to it!
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We'll be that as it may.....there's no shortage of fish in the canal. At its lowest point I could walk across in hip boots. The fishing has been really good the past month. I caught perch in the 1.5 lb range and gills as big as my hand.....2xl.
One largemouth I caught was well over 3 lbs. and bullhead approaching 2 lbs. There are no crappies in the canal.....they all died.....yup......all dead!
This canal has been filled and emptied for more than 100 years. The fish are still there.
I'm looking forward to launching my boat tomorrow morning. And happy the lock attendants are back to work.
Rg
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Maiden voyage on the canal this morning. All good! Except for all the crap floating in the water. Made some timing adjustments to the motor and it ran better than it ever has. Car towed the boat with no effort.
Fish didn't cooperate, but....I'm on the water!
Rg
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Maiden voyage on the canal this morning. All good! Except for all the crap floating in the water. Made some timing adjustments to the motor and it ran better than it ever has. Car towed the boat with no effort.
Fish didn't cooperate, but....I'm on the water!
Rg
Did you use the new finder?
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Yes I did. Had to make a couple adjustments to depth and sensitivity. But it's a pretty sweet little finder. Very crisp and bright. I'm not convinced that recording speed over ground by gps is very accurate relative to intended trolling speeds. Didn't play with the plotter at all. No need on the canal.
Weather will be a lot nicer next week. Cooler daytime temps. I'll head to Honeoye or Canandiagua and give it a workout.
Overall, for the money and given my small boat....nice finder.
Rg
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Thats good to know RG, you may need to adjust the map speed a bit to match if that's an option. (It is on some)
I have a kit to install my echomap and panoptix on the boat from my ice kit but haven't gotten around to it yet.
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We'll be that as it may.....there's no shortage of fish in the canal. At its lowest point I could walk across in hip boots. The fishing has been really good the past month. I caught perch in the 1.5 lb range and gills as big as my hand.....2xl.
One largemouth I caught was well over 3 lbs. and bullhead approaching 2 lbs. There are no crappies in the canal.....they all died.....yup......all dead!
This canal has been filled and emptied for more than 100 years. The fish are still there.
I'm looking forward to launching my boat tomorrow morning. And happy the lock attendants are back to work.
Rg
Wonder why we don't ice fish it more?
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I ice fished the Port Gibson section for many years. Always had a lot of fun there. I'm going to get my walk in and go hunt for some crappies with the fly rod.....if there's not too much stuff floating around.
Rg
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I hope they get a crew out just East of E-15 in Fort Plain to dredge the crud out. At the moment there is a real nice rock/sandbar out of the Otsquagao creek that spans most of the river to within about 15 feet of the northern bank. Even with the river full it will be less than 3 feet under the water across most of the river. That could be interesting if a deep draft boat comes along!
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I was down by Utica over the weekend and went over d**e Rd over the canal and its bone dry. Well almost its only 3' across of water...
That rd also goes over the river and that looked low also...
Its not till Frankfort harbor where the river and canal merge again.
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Thats D Y K E. Rd.. as in something to hold back water.... 8)
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It's full from the genesee to Lyons here. Don't know about beyond that. Still no traffic through the locks.
Rg
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lock 8 is close and filling :D
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Had a talk with the Lock 30 Lockmaster yesterday. He said they plan on opening July 4 if all goes well. Not too sure what that means but, hopefully they'll be on schedule.
The marina down the road from me has a dozen Packett boats ready and waiting. Losing 2 months of rentals has to hurt a small business like theirs. Those boats run $2500 a week and they're usually booked a year in advance.
Rg
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ARTICLE in the NY OUTDOOR NEWS PAPER
Dated JUNE 12,2020 on page 5
canal system to reopen
states around July 5 th for some openings
gives dates and locks
well have wait and see
Could Be FAKE NEWS HA HA ;D ??? ::).
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Locks are open as of today from Lockport to Lyons. From Lyons East, three locks are still under repair.
Rg
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also this is from there website NYS Canal Systems
Tolls and fees for recreational vessels on the New York State Canal System have been waived through 2021
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I saw the Barge canal now here in Clyde
but muddy
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Boats were passing through the locks yesterday. Can't wait for next week. There's a spot downstream I've been dying to hit.
Rg
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Hit the canal this morning for a couple hours. Caught a bit of everything. Perch, crappie, pike, rock bass, smallmouth and a couple short walleye. Put them all back, with the water as warm as it is and a freezer that's already full.
Fun!
Rg
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Sounds like fun to me. :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
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Just got back from the creek. Did a bit of fly fishing. Chug some nice Rockies, a few gills one smallie and a good supply of crayfish for tomorrow morning.
Love free bait!
Rg