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MFF US Northeast => New York => Topic started by: BiteMe on Aug 07, 2019, 04:22 PM
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I lost my certificate from taking the course in the 60's. It better be online for free Andy.
https://www.syracuse.com/outdoors/2019/08/all-ny-operators-of-power-boats-will-need-safety-course-by-2025.html
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i'm going to hold out on taking it at my age and the national average life expectance it's a 50 50 I make it ....no since in taking it if I ain't going to need it in the here after .......
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I took an 8week course years ago
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A million boaters at 30 each that's the reason for the law not safety
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A million boaters at 30 each that's the reason for the law not safety
X2 if they were so concerned it would be free online , , if I’m not mistaken 78 % of boating accidents are alcohol related , take that out and what’s left ,
You have to take test to get a drivers license , but that doesn’t stop drunk driving , speeders , etc ,
And If take their exam will that make everyone adhere to all the rules ,
I don’t have an issue with a course , , just like all boats under 21’ have to wear life vests part of the year , bet the govs boat is over 😉 , like nobody ever fell off a boat that’s longer 🤪
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I've had mine for a while now so I'm good
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https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/index.php?topic=76218.0 (https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/index.php?topic=76218.0)
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X2 if they were so concerned it would be free online , , if I’m not mistaken 70+ % boating accidents are alcohol related , take that out and what’s left ,
Hope that includes boat rentals , Kayaks and wet bikes
You’re 100% correct. I’m not sure if the course would have helped this boater. I'm not against taking the course but it should be free. We already pay enough to enjoy our time on the water.
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http://www.timesobserver.com/news/local-news/2019/08/boat-crash-in-irving-ny/
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Residents for free there is one for free online boat usa
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Residents for free there is one for free online boat usa
But will it be recognized by the state of N.Y. in place of the 1 the gov is giving
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I was told by a sheriff patrolling the lake that it will be needed by the end of next year... not true?
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I was told by a sheriff patrolling the lake that it will be needed by the end of next year... not true?
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Under the 5-year, phase-in plan, all motor boat operators born on or after Jan. 1, 1993 must complete a safety course to operate a motor boat beginning in 2020.
Those born after Jan. 1, 1988 must complete a safety course beginning in 2022. Those born on or after Jan. 1, 1983 must complete a safety course beginning in 2023. Those born on or after Jan. 1, 1978 must complete a safety course beginning in 2024.
The requirement would extend to all motor boat operators beginning in 2025, regardless of age.
Failure to comply could result in a fine of between $100 and $250.
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i'm going to hold out on taking it at my age and the national average life expectance it's a 50 50 I make it ....no since in taking it if I ain't going to need it in the here after .......
Trapp...I said the same thing....I'll wait til 2025...it'd be a waste of time if I kick the bucket before that....I wonder if the 20yrs I spent in the coast guard running small boats, gun boats, 30-44'era as a coxswain would help me pass the course?
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Looks like I have until 2023 🤣
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I'll sell the boat before I'll pay $30 for a course I took more than 50 years ago.
Rg
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you better not sell your boat! that's a classic here on mff
hey what happened to the little pontoon boat?
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As of 2018 there were 438,891 registered power boaters , I believe 4.5 injuries per 100,000 , 78% are alcohol related
That alone comes to $13,166,730 hmmm
NYC Motor vehicle deaths 2018 = 200
And 114 pedestrians killed ,
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There is a need for boaters education but with mature adults who have been on the water for numbers of years....I don't think so. As filet mentioned the amount of car deaths compared to boating deaths is substantial. Hopefully they don't make us old farts have to take written driver ed course again. I think boating classes are important for young boaters and new boaters....the rest is common sense.
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There is a need for boaters education but with mature adults who have been on the water for numbers of years....I don't think so. As filet mentioned the amount of car deaths compared to boating deaths is substantial. Hopefully they don't make us old farts have to take written driver ed course again. I think boating classes are important for young boaters and new boaters....the rest is common sense.
I took the boater safety course back in the early 80's.
This past spring I took the Florida safe boater course, on line.
It was difficult and it was free.
I learned a lot more and refreshed things I had forgotten.
I am 63 and have been boating ever since I was a kid.
Since I was 21 I have owned and operated over a dozen boats of all sizes and shapes up to 25'.
My point here is that I feel everyone can benefit by taking a boater safety course.
As for paying...………….Florida's was free and on line.
And it was VERY thorough.
I did not score 100% on every test that was required.
This entire thing is simply a money grab.
A good thing about making the safety course required, but charging for it is a money grab.
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I took the course when I was 12. I am 33 now. I lost the one certificate I got within a couple years. Of course there is no record of me taking the test so I guess I would have to take it again. It is utter non-sense. And since you can take it online anyone can probably take it for anyone else.
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These are the laws in RI -
All those born on or after January 1, 1986, are required to pass an approved boater education course before they legally may operate any vessel powered by a motor of more than 10 horsepower.
Anyone operating a personal watercraft (PWC), regardless of age, must have passed an approved boater education course.
I am not trying to start a war here but its a simple test and you actually learn something from it if you actually pay attention and stop thinking its a waste of time. I did it when I was 15 and do not regret it. 1 time deal and done for life just like a hunter safety course or drivers license. To be honest, I wish trailering was also a separate or combined test. From someone taking 30 minutes to try and back up a jet ski to people almost stabbing each other at public docs. I have zero tolerance for wasted time at a dock. Maybe its just me but I feel like a little education can go a long way.
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"Zero tolerance for wasted time at dock"? So you're one of those guys....
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Being an out-of-stater, I don't have any skin in this particular case though I've read this thread with interest. It seems there could be some fine tuning to the execution but I would love to see Maine enact a similar requirement in the spirit of it for all powerboat operators. I've seen it far too many times where boats are going fast enough to pull a skier within 50 yards of shore - forget the environmental consequences and just think of potential for swimmers. Had one bearing down on us with every single member of that crew watching the skier, including the operator. Been left in wakes in our canoe too many times to recall. They'll always be jerks but due to frequency I'm inclined to believe it's just people who don't know better.
The long term operator situation seems to be a sticky one - I was out on the water in a friend's boat who'd been boating since the 60's. I rarely had at the time, stuck to paddle propelled craft - we're en route to our spot and I had to tell him to kill the motor as I could see boulders about 3' below water line. All were marked appropriately, it had just been some time since he operated and he's no where near unintelligent or senile. Most may be fine but if not properly trained, a lot of bad habits can creep in or things are forgotten as had happened in this case.
These days the various costs, legal fees and settlement of a single fatality could approach that of total revenue from this course. This is exclusive of the emotional impact on a family who no longer has the affected person(s) in their life. There are plenty of other things I think all would rather spend $30 on as well but this is likely 1/3 - 1/2 the cost of filling one's boat. If only driver education was that inexpensive.
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"Zero tolerance for wasted time at dock"? So you're one of those guys....
Please do explain..... My meaning of that was, if there is a sign that says 10 minute limit, why are you taking 30? I do not say anything to anyone, I actually laugh at how uneducated people are when it comes to boat ramp etiquette.
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Being an out-of-stater, I don't have any skin in this particular case though I've read this thread with interest. It seems there could be some fine tuning to the execution but I would love to see Maine enact a similar requirement in the spirit of it for all powerboat operators. I've seen it far too many times where boats are going fast enough to pull a skier within 50 yards of shore - forget the environmental consequences and just think of potential for swimmers. Had one bearing down on us with every single member of that crew watching the skier, including the operator. Been left in wakes in our canoe too many times to recall. They'll always be jerks but due to frequency I'm inclined to believe it's just people who don't know better.
The long term operator situation seems to be a sticky one - I was out on the water in a friend's boat who'd been boating since the 60's. I rarely had at the time, stuck to paddle propelled craft - we're en route to our spot and I had to tell him to kill the motor as I could see boulders about 3' below water line. All were marked appropriately, it had just been some time since he operated and he's no where near unintelligent or senile. Most may be fine but if not properly trained, a lot of bad habits can creep in or things are forgotten as had happened in this case.
These days the various costs, legal fees and settlement of a single fatality could approach that of total revenue from this course. This is exclusive of the emotional impact on a family who no longer has the affected person(s) in their life. There are plenty of other things I think all would rather spend $30 on as well but this is likely 1/3 - 1/2 the cost of filling one's boat. If only driver education was that inexpensive.
Well said sir! For the long term operator - I agree with you but I would still feel better knowing that someone took the course and forgot than to have never taken it in the first place. A lot of people are focused on themselves and that they are safe and etc. Thats fine, I feel the same way but its not me that I am worried about on the water. Its you and the other guy and the guy after that.
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It was just an unforgiving statement is all. We've all seen newbies struggle, and also seen launch bullies. I tend to sit back and enjoy the show, or maybe offer some help.
I have no problem with taking the course. And the money grab doesn't surprise me at all. I would like to know their plans for the cash though.
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It was just an unforgiving statement is all. We've all seen newbies struggle, and also seen launch bullies. I tend to sit back and enjoy the show, or maybe offer some help.
I have no problem with taking the course. And the money grab doesn't surprise me at all. I would like to know their plans for the cash though.
Rugburn - I agree, I left my comment open. Its not the newbie that gets me, I too offer help. I have even jumped into their vehicles to back them in and or jumped on their boats to drive it onto the trailer. Launch bullies, some verbal some physical but no need for that either way. Its the people that decide to load their entire boat up at the dock when their are 5 other boats trying to launch and 4 trying to dock. Have you ever waited 3 hours to get you boat out because 3 people were so disorganized? Its terrible and fixable.
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The launches I hit aren't all that busy, except on a holiday. Around here the traffic jam happens when the morning anglers are coming off and the tubers/recreationalists are heading out. Then the etiquette can go out the window. No amount of school will fix the congestion on those days, and the frustration that goes along with it. I just try and be patient, and not let it ruin my day.
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The launches can become pretty hectic at times ,
I have helped out at the launch and so has my wife many times over the years ,
Rugburn I know what your talking about using the ramp to stage and as a tie down area when they are painted out in yellow , last guy I politely ask if he knew about them , what a Richard cranium,
Somethings are just permanently broke
Just like someone flying out of heavy fog
Trust me I’m not against the test it’s how it looks , from nov-April boats under 21’ people need to wear PFDs unless they have changed that 1 , bigger boats shouldn’t be exempt IMO
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out of state fisherman may have a bone in this fight just like helmets on motorcycles cell phones insurance and such new York may ask you to take the course as well being someone from another state I am sure the price will be double of course .....
I said this with the trout limit .... the ban on buying lead weights ....and the new licenses ...it sucks keep voting for morons that don't listen
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Another partially lucid response.
I won't take another boating course. They can try to fine me...they can try to incarcerate me, they can try to take my boat etc..........they better bring a lunch!
Rg
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Another partially lucid response.
I won't take another boating course. They can try to fine me...they can try to incarcerate me, they can try to take my boat etc..........they better bring a lunch!
Rg
I don’t see any quote symbols Bob
So what are you trying to say here?
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Nothing new.
Rg
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Oh boy
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Another partially lucid response.
I won't take another boating course. They can try to fine me...they can try to incarcerate me, they can try to take my boat etc..........they better bring a lunch!
Rg
I'm with you Bob....in fact if my coast guard ID isn't enough...they can ticket me.
John
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Nothing new.
Rg
Give them the glare and they’ll move on.
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Take-m fishing
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I don't travel far with the boat any more. About 1.5 miles from my house to drop it in the canal. If they want to ticket me on the canal for not having taken this course, I'll go see the town justice.
He's my neighbor.
Just where are these courses supposed to given anyway?
Rg
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Just found it.
https://www.boat-ed.com/newyork/?campaignid=261945619&adgroupid=18544659379&keyword=%2Bboat%20%2Bsafety%20%2Bcourse&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvfeq_ar14wIViZOzCh0Jnw4dEAAYASAAEgLYNvD_BwE (https://www.boat-ed.com/newyork/?campaignid=261945619&adgroupid=18544659379&keyword=%2Bboat%20%2Bsafety%20%2Bcourse&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvfeq_ar14wIViZOzCh0Jnw4dEAAYASAAEgLYNvD_BwE)
Rg
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Ha! Found the loophole!
A certificate is not required if you rent a boat. I'll put the boat in my Bride's name and rent it from her when I go fishing.
Perfect!
Time to go for my morning walk.
Rg
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In New Hampshire the boat rental places are required to give you a state certified short version of the boat operators test.
John
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Another partially lucid response.
I won't take another boating course. They can try to fine me...they can try to incarcerate me, they can try to take my boat etc..........they better bring a lunch!
Rg
tell us how you really feel
although I like your idea :thumbup_smilie:
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I did some quick research there is several on line sites you can take the course ...it said the only free one was ....
http://www.boatus.org/newyork/ (http://www.boatus.org/newyork/)
I also checked the new York dec web site and it said if you had taken a boater safety course before and lost your card you can go to the dec parks web site and apply for a replacement for 10 bucks
they have not yet decided if canoes kayaks and none motorized row boats will need the course .....
hope this helps
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You can only get a replacement card if you took the course after 1990 I think. Records before that are not in the computer system.
I like the free course, but, you still have to fork over $10 to Mario to get a card. I don't have to think about it again till 2025.
Rg
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I was all nervous about having to have one here in NH.. I have a fairly big boat with a big outboard, I'm sorta young (at least look it) and since getting my boaters certificate I have not been checked once by anyone. I think the issue would only come about if you got yanked for a violation of some sort. Then they would just tack on the fine. I believe no certificate in NH is a $130 fine but it may be considered a moving violation which would go against your drivers license. Not sure about that one. Either way I am surprised that I have never been checked, I tend to fish larger lakes that have dedicated Marine Patrol on them.
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You can only get a replacement card if you took the course after 1990 I think. Records before that are not in the computer system.
I like the free course, but, you still have to fork over $10 to Mario to get a card. I don't have to think about it again till 2025.
Rg
RG I went to the DEC web page then the boat us page it says you down load the card and print it yourself free......
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I know a fellow boater here in New Hampshire that got a ticket for being on plane within 150 feet from shore. He paid his fine and had to re-take the boaters safety course. Appantly your certificate is cancelled when you get a ticket.
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I've had my card for 16 years now ..every year the cayuga county sheriff's office give to courses for free 8 hour course..I wouldn't a had mine if I didnt own a few jetskis ..the sherrifs that give the course even get you pizza for lunch ..not a bad deal .and yes they still give the course ..everyone complains about jetskiers but some boaters are 20 times worse than a jetskier..and trapper your to miserable to kick the bucket any time soon..along with a few others on here :D :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:...besides we are in ny did you expect anything less.
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jet skis s---
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It's interesting to me to contrast this boating education requirement with the NYS requirement for hunting with a crossbow. After these implements became legal for hunting big game the state mandated that hunters who use a crossbow must carry a self issued document that states that you have read some material about hunting with a crossbow. It costs nothing and is pretty much a joke. I wonder if a CO ever issued a ticket for not carrying that piece of paper? Most serious archers would say that if you have not hunted with a bow then you need to take the archery course before taking up a crossbow. So there is justification for some sort of mandated education. But now anyway, what they offer is free. The hunter ed courses are taught by dedicated volunteers, are reasonably extensive and as far as I know are still free. Thirty dollars for something offered online seems extreme to me. I took the CG course as a young teenager, I don't mind a refresher. But for a lot of folks 30 bucks is a burden. C'mon Andy!
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I was checked last year for that card and he looked at my archery license also and my archery tag
there are safety considerations with a cross bow that you don't have with neither a firearm nor bow ....discharge! cocking bow properly ......lubing cables and strings as well as the rail..... truth is if there was a crossbow course I would want to take it
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I was checked last year for that card and he looked at my archery license also and my archery tag
there are safety considerations with a cross bow that you don't have with neither a firearm nor bow ....discharge! cocking bow properly ......lubing cables and strings as well as the rail..... truth is if there was a crossbow course I would want to take it
I love my crossbow.
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RG I went to the DEC web page then the boat us page it says you down load the card and print it yourself free......
If it's in the computer system. I took my boater safety course at the US Coast Guard Station in Charlotte in 1960. Those records are not in the current computer system.
Rg
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I was checked last year for that card and he looked at my archery license also and my archery tag
there are safety considerations with a cross bow that you don't have with neither a firearm nor bow ....discharge! cocking bow properly ......lubing cables and strings as well as the rail..... truth is if there was a crossbow course I would want to take it
What does a crossbow course have to do with a boating safety course?....
Rg
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It's interesting to me to contrast this boating education requirement with the NYS requirement for hunting with a crossbow. After these implements became legal for hunting big game the state mandated that hunters who use a crossbow must carry a self issued document that states that you have read some material about hunting with a crossbow. It costs nothing and is pretty much a joke. I wonder if a CO ever issued a ticket for not carrying that piece of paper? Most serious archers would say that if you have not hunted with a bow then you need to take the archery course before taking up a crossbow. So there is justification for some sort of mandated education. But now anyway, what they offer is free. The hunter ed courses are taught by dedicated volunteers, are reasonably extensive and as far as I know are still free. Thirty dollars for something offered online seems extreme to me. I took the CG course as a young teenager, I don't mind a refresher. But for a lot of folks 30 bucks is a burden. C'mon Andy!
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Please do explain..... My meaning of that was, if there is a sign that says 10 minute limit, why are you taking 30? I do not say anything to anyone, I actually laugh at how uneducated people are when it comes to boat ramp etiquette.
With all due respect you're coming across like a real jack@ss. Instead of laughing maybe you should give the people struggling a hand with all of your incredible knowledge and talent. SMH
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What does a crossbow course have to do with a boating safety course?....
Rg
I think jperch was making the comparisons and differences in the boater safety course and the crossbow safety card ...I replied with the info that in deed I was checked ...... it's called conversation and not bantor RG I remember a time you enjoyed it ...sorry if we annoyed you...
I like mine too badbrad but I like my bow to
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With all due respect you're coming across like a real jack@ss. Instead of laughing maybe you should give the people struggling a hand with all of your incredible knowledge and talent. SMH
frogger at times I seen people ot ramps being jerks others I seen people really needing help like a old man trying to get in the water quickly because of the line unhook his trailer from the hitch .... funny now not funny when the old boy was almost crying ....... if folks need a hand were sportsmen lets help them out
oh darn this has nothing to do with the boaters safety course ...i'm going to get scolded again guys :(
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With all due respect you're coming across like a real jack@ss. Instead of laughing maybe you should give the people struggling a hand with all of your incredible knowledge and talent. SMH
Is he or are you deciding he is because you interpreted what he wrote that way? If you knew the man you'd never ever write that. I can think of some choice words for people that are quick to judge others...but someone already mentioned Richard C.
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The point I was trying to make is that the state is inconsistent in how seriously they take certifications and also in their pricing policy. The state would purchase software rights for the course for a certain period of time from some vendor. The unit cost per boater would be substantially less than 30 dollars. So I have to think they could offer an online boating course for free or for a lot less than 30 dollars. Sorry if I was confusing, bad migraine day.
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With all due respect you're coming across like a real jack@ss. Instead of laughing maybe you should give the people struggling a hand with all of your incredible knowledge and talent. SMH
With all due respect, next time you decide to call someone names make sure you read what you are responding to and take a second to understand the content instead of interpreting it how ever you choose it fits you best. Read, comprehend, then respond. Please sir explain to me how I can help someone when I am spinning in circles on the water waiting for a spot at the dock because certain people want to load their entire boat up one piece of equipment at a time, hence the 30 minute wait vs the 10 or less like I mentioned and which you tagged me in while calling me Jack@ss. Cooler, fishing rods, tackle, sunblock, 8 trips later. Why not have this all on the boat before you launch and park? Would you like me to jump off the boat, swim to them so I can help them load their boat, then swim back to my boat that is now 100 yards down the bay because the tide is outgoing? Clearly that makes me a jack@ss right? Is that incredible knowledge, no it's common sense. Did I not say I helped people back their trailers in? I can call you names if I like as well but this isn't the place for it and I have some respect. Or, maybe it's because I do consider myself a decent human being and do help others, WHEN ITS ACTUALLY FEASIBLE. Enjoy your day.
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Is he or are you deciding he is because you interpreted what he wrote that way? If you knew the man you'd never ever write that. I can think of some choice words for people that are quick to judge others...but someone already mentioned Richard C.
Jon, I appreciate the kind words buddy. I'll take it as a misunderstanding...... you nymphing today?
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Jon, I appreciate the kind words buddy. I'll take it as a misunderstanding...... you nymphing today?
Anytime Mike. Landed 14 this morning, largest was a 3lb bow.
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3 lb rainbows and kind words toward each other ....ok enough hostilitys GROUP HUG !!!!!! come on that includes frogger and even RG......
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Is he or are you deciding he is because you interpreted what he wrote that way? If you knew the man you'd never ever write that. I can think of some choice words for people that are quick to judge others...but someone already mentioned Richard C.
When a person actually times how long it takes a person to launch or take his boat out (30 minutes in a 10 minute launch limit), and says he laughs at the people doing something they may only do twice a year at most, when they are probably trying their best, I'm not interpreting anything. He's identifying who and what he is.
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With all due respect, next time you decide to call someone names make sure you read what you are responding to and take a second to understand the content instead of interpreting it how ever you choose it fits you best. Read, comprehend, then respond. Please sir explain to me how I can help someone when I am spinning in circles on the water waiting for a spot at the dock because certain people want to load their entire boat up one piece of equipment at a time, hence the 30 minute wait vs the 10 or less like I mentioned and which you tagged me in while calling me Jack@ss. Cooler, fishing rods, tackle, sunblock, 8 trips later. Why not have this all on the boat before you launch and park? Would you like me to jump off the boat, swim to them so I can help them load their boat, then swim back to my boat that is now 100 yards down the bay because the tide is outgoing? Clearly that makes me a jack@ss right? Is that incredible knowledge, no it's common sense. Did I not say I helped people back their trailers in? I can call you names if I like as well but this isn't the place for it and I have some respect. Or, maybe it's because I do consider myself a decent human being and do help others, WHEN ITS ACTUALLY FEASIBLE. Enjoy your day.
Near as I can tell after all that you are also a long winded jack@ss as well. Learn to have some patience with others - you identified who and what you are in your first couple posts. You enjoy your day too.
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Don’t feed the trolls.... it’s not worth it they only bring you down to their level....
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If you play with the pigs, you'll only get dirty.
Rg
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Lmao. Go fish
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I plan on it. In the morning. I'll be on my backyard stream with the 2 wt searching for a feisty bass.
Some days I wish I had salty water at my door.
Rg
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Guess I'll just take the course, have until 2025. Keep my eye out for the free one for now.
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What does a crossbow course have to do with a boating safety course?....
Rg
same as this "I'll be on my backyard stream with the 2 wt searching for a feisty bass. " :rotflol:
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I have no problem paying the $30 . I would mail it in tomorrow. It's the whole day that I wasted when I could be doing something else..
I will pony up and go take it..
They better feed me while i'm there......... ;)
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I personally would like to know what this possible 13.1 mill will be used for
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I personally would like to know what this possible 13.1 mill will be used for
I hope it goes to fixing boat launches..........
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in today's paper:
Boating Safety Certificate course requirements can be completed with one of the online courses listed below. These will provide the same information supplied in the classroom courses. Course providers are responsible for any fees they may charge. Successful completion of unit exams is required in order to advance through the course and ultimately undertake a comprehensive final exam. Fees paid to the online provider cover the cost of your permanent certificate issued by the provider.
› BOATERexamm › Boat-ED › Boat U.S. › America’s Boating Club (formerly known as US Power Squadron) Spanish online course available $29.95
› BoatSmart › iLearnToBoat Refer to the DEC website for more information about online safety courses. $49.50
>:( >:(
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Don’t feed the trolls.... it’s not worth it they only bring you down to their level....
And yet you continue to "feed the trolls". Time to take your own advice I'd say. :-). Hope you and the New Hampshire guy have a great day.
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I hope it goes to fixing boat launches..........
Well, you can hope in one hand and...........in the other. .....and see which one fills up first. My guess is it will be syphoned into the "General Fund".
Rg
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That’s what I was thinking RG
After how he handled the MTA money 😉
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And the thruway toll increase....etc....etc....etc.
We just love paying for downstate woes.
Rg
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And the thruway toll increase....etc....etc....etc.
We just love paying for downstate woes.
Rg
Yes sir , they keep putting them back at the wheel 😜
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I personally would like to know what this possible 13.1 mill will be used for
maybe they can put an octagon down at Godfrey launch for cage matches. It would settle debates a little quicker 😜
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I plan on it. In the morning. I'll be on my backyard stream with the 2 wt searching for a feisty bass.
Some days I wish I had salty water at my door.
Rg
I hope you got into some fish. One big reason I love RI. Endless freshwater fishing opportunities yet the salt is right at my feet. Great variety of ocean life as well.
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My first boat with a motor( a 1/2 horse Neptune) was in 1946. What do you think I`m going to do ??? Well, I`ll take my chances with the law and the Justice if it comes to violating Crummo`s law.
How in the world did I ever make it to 81 without all these recent laws to protect me ??? 50 years ago my Dad told me “we have too many people watching out for us”.. what would he think today ???
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I hope you got into some fish. One big reason I love RI. Endless freshwater fishing opportunities yet the salt is right at my feet. Great variety of ocean life as well.
Creek was up and stained. Managed one big largemouth ( well, big for that stream). Took the little spinning rod instead.
My first boat was a 10' flat bottom plywood boat with a 7 1/2 hp Wizzard motor from Western Auto. My dad got that for me when I was 10 years old......1960. He made me take the course at the Coast Gaurd Auxiliary in Charlotte before I could drive the boat.
I'd venture that more than 90% of boating accidents are alcohol related. A safety certificate won't help that kind of stupid.
Rg
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maybe they can put an octagon down at Godfrey launch for cage matches. It would settle debates a little quicker 😜
LMFAO - nice!
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Deady does remind me of (Ravishing Rick Rude )
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Maybe if I had hair lmao 😂 😂😂😂
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Ok go as the iron sheik
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You Oneida guys really crack me up.
I've seen more craziness at Oneida launches than anywhere I've ever put in. Twice I've seen people drop their boats off bogey wheeled trailers 20' from the water.
But...wait a minute.....the boater safety course will take care of all that.....right?
Rg
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i been thinking....I took a hunter safety course when I was 12 took it again at 60 with the grand brat. Im glad I did same with the bow course ...I took a 3 hour safe driving course at 16 to drive took a extended one to lower my insurance again glad I did ....i'm going to take this boater safety course ,it might stop me from getting in a accident .... what do I have to lose except ignorance and I admit I'm not a great boater to me it's just a tool to hunt ducks and catch fish.....yes i been in boats over 55 years ...probably been doing the same mistakes all that time
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Good attitude Trap
However, there are others out there who feel that because they have never wrecked or sunk their boat, or received a citation, that they cannot learn more, or anything new.
Like I’ve said, I took the course back in the 60’s. Yet, I had a tough time retaking the Florida boating course a few months back.
It’s not the common sense stuff.
It’s the “correct”rules, navigation buoys, etc. that is tough to remember.
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Are we still going on about this good grief.. :o
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Here is my 02 on this subject... if the state REALLY WANTED SAFETY to be their objective.. it would be MANDATORY AND FREE... it's nothing but a money scheme for the state.. no matter what ANYONE SAYS.. they see an opportunity to make money and they jump on it..
I'll gladly take the course. However I feel its 100% BULLSH@#ST
You CANT FIX STUPID..
Case in point...
I'm at Barcelona on Sunday (big tourney going on)
My boat is resting on dock and another boat is resting on dock beside me.. NO ROOM FOR A 3RD BOAT...
Some JACKWAGON with a $65k boat decides hes gonna TRY to launch his boat BETWEEN US...
NOOOOO SIIIIR...
As I walked toward my boat.. I hollared.. HEY.. ILL BE OUT OF YOUR WAY IN 2 SECONDS
He decided to wait...
NO COURSE IS GONNA HELP THAT FELLA
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Good attitude Trap
However, there are others out there who feel that because they have never wrecked or sunk their boat, or received a citation, that they cannot learn more, or anything new.
Like I’ve said, I took the course back in the 60’s. Yet, I had a tough time retaking the Florida boating course a few months back.
It’s not the common sense stuff.
It’s the “correct”rules, navigation buoys, etc. that is tough to remember.
You need that knowledge in Florida waters Mac! Even on Lake Erie. That's big water.
I'll be 75 in 2025. If I still have my boat, I promise to take the course.
Rg
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i believe the fee's are going to the organzations giving the courses for material I could be wrong but that's the way i'm taking it also there are free courses boat-us on line course is free....
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I took this online course Aug. 10/2019
It is an online course from BOAT U.S. Foundation
It had 7 chapters including test after each plus final exam
The only cost was $13.00 to cover cost of processing the card
I asked the person on the phone about the exam satisfying
this new law in N.Y. I was told yes it does.
I hope so
Ralph
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The question of taking or not taking the safety course is not the problem. The problem is WHO is going to enforce it ? 95% of the time the only time you will get asked if you have a card is if there is an accident and the Law gets involved. As for the LAW patrolling the waters and doing random checks it is almost a non-happening event.
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You need that knowledge in Florida waters Mac! Even on Lake Erie. That's big water.
I'll be 75 in 2025. If I still have my boat, I promise to take the course.
Rg
I respectfully disagree "slightly" Bob.
You fish in the canal system as many of us here in NY do.
And the canal system also extends thru many of the Finger Lakes, etc.
There are markers and buoys that need to be interpreted and adhered to.
There are bridges and locks that have rules and procedures that need to followed.
Just because you have operated a boat for 50+ years, as I have, doesn't mean that you know any or all of this.
Bob - you were a d**n good electrician for a very long time.
But that didn't mean you couldn't benefit from additional training from time to time.
Things change.
As I said, I am not against the requirement here to get EVERY NY boater to take this course.
I have a problem in the fee to do so.
The Florida course I took was extensive, on line, AND IT WAS FREE.
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I don't disagree with your perspective Mac. As I said, if I still have a boat in 2025, I'll take the course.
Here's a good read regarding boating accidents put out by the NYS Parks and Recreation Dept.
https://parks.ny.gov/recreation/boating/documents/RecreationalBoatingReport.pdf (https://parks.ny.gov/recreation/boating/documents/RecreationalBoatingReport.pdf)
I found the onwater enforcement statistics particularly interesting.
Rg
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I respectfully disagree "slightly" Bob.
You fish in the canal system as many of us here in NY do.
And the canal system also extends thru many of the Finger Lakes, etc.
There are markers and buoys that need to be interpreted and adhered to.
There are bridges and locks that have rules and procedures that need to followed.
Just because you have operated a boat for 50+ years, as I have, doesn't mean that you know any or all of this.
Bob - you were a d**n good electrician for a very long time.
But that didn't mean you couldn't benefit from additional training from time to time.
Things change.
As I said, I am not against the requirement here to get EVERY NY boater to take this course.
I have a problem in the fee to do so.
The Florida course I took was extensive, on line, AND IT WAS FREE.
is the florida course accepted in new York????
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is the florida course accepted in new York????
have not checked yet
yet
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Completed the BoatUS course today between 1000 and 1500. Ran some errands, had lunch, watched it rain, took a nap, still had it all done in a few hours. No big deal, it's free, when you're done they give you options to receive the certificate by email or for a fee they'll send you a card. The email certificate says on it that it's "temporary" and valid for 90 days. They want you to buy their card. Another option links you direct to NYDMV and they'll either send you a new drivers license with the boating safety icon on it ($12 if I remember right) or you have the option of receiving it the next time you renew your driver license. Either way you get a confirmation number that it's in the NYDMV data base. Couldn't be any easier or cost less. Hardest part is that each page is timed and you have wait for the time to run out like 20 seconds before you go to the next page.
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Completed the BoatUS course today between 1000 and 1500. Ran some errands, had lunch, watched it rain, took a nap, still had it all done in a few hours. No big deal, it's free, when you're done they give you options to receive the certificate by email or for a fee they'll send you a card. The email certificate says on it that it's "temporary" and valid for 90 days. They want you to buy their card. Another option links you direct to NYDMV and they'll either send you a new drivers license with the boating safety icon on it ($12 if I remember right) or you have the option of receiving it the next time you renew your driver license. Either way you get a confirmation number that it's in the NYDMV data base. Couldn't be any easier or cost less. Hardest part is that each page is timed and you have wait for the time to run out like 20 seconds before you go to the next page.
Good man Greg!
Yes, it could cost less.
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i'm going to do it this week ...I honestly want to.i been in boats all my life and have no idea what bouys mean what other then ones we fish by ....
and who will enforce it ... the Oswego county sheriffs have checked me before for jackets besides I rather be all legal and not worry besides I take my grandchildren I rather be up on any safety issues......
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I take my grandchildren I rather be up on any safety issues......
'nuff said!
No better reason in the world Trap.
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Good for you Trapp, can't be too careful with the grandkids :clapping: I also did the BoatUS course, took the course as a kid 50+ years ago, figured a refresher was a pretty good idea ;) when my driver's license renews it will have the little anchor on it, couldn't be easier :thumbup_smilie:
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I have no problem taken a refresher course since my original course in 1975 but I do have a problem with rental boats being exempt just this Sunday a Kayaker was run over on Lake George by a rental boat operator just does not make sense
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I have no problem taken a refresher course since my original course in 1975 but I do have a problem with rental boats being exempt just this Sunday a Kayaker was run over on Lake George by a rental boat operator just does not make sense
Agreed!
In order to rent the boat in Florida I was required to take the course.
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Same here in New Hampshire re: rental operator has to take a short course
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Do the illegal aliens have to take it or is their state issued drivers license enough?
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The OMG maybe in NY
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I have mine and so do my boys but seriously......only the law abiding folks will do the course. NJ requires it but it is a good idea anyway.
Point is, you cannot legislate common sense!!
Sean P
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Point is, you cannot legislate common sense!!
Sean P
True , I seen many people over the years that were great test takers but didn’t have a lick of common sense
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With all the rules, laws, tests, etc.
YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID
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do you realize we are in a prime fishing time and the one comments people make are this course the weather and music ........... we are sad
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do you realize we are in a prime fishing time and the one comments people make are this course the weather and music ........... we are sad
There’s more that are active Trap.
But we had you banned from those threads.
You can’t see them.
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you'd get bored without me mac .....
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There’s more that are active Trap.
But we had you banned from those threads.
You can’t see them.
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you'd get bored without me mac .....
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