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Title: Saratoga Lake
Post by: [email protected] on Oct 05, 2018, 09:11 AM
took the boat out saratoga lake state boat launch a couple of days this week the water looks terrible green scum and white/green barnicles floting
on the entire lake looks just like sewage but its not don't know if its from the weed mowing or too many large boats in the lake nowdays i hope it clears up but doubtfull i don't think i would swim in this lake
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: Hookset on Oct 09, 2018, 01:54 PM
The lake has been plagued by toxic algae blooms this year, badly.  Unfortunately, the lake is waaaaaay over-developed and all of the runoff from Saratoga Lake Golf Course and the surrounding agricultural areas is adding to the problem.  I fear it is here to stay.  I used to fish that lake religiously, living just a few miles north of there.  However, my pilgrimage to the lake ceased a few years back when the place became too difficult to 'enjoy'.  If I fish it at all, I launch and head straight down the creek,  but the launch is always so choked that it is just too cumbersome to wait for my rightful chance at the waters edge.  I'll wait for ice.  Tight lines!
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: Tom Hannock on Oct 11, 2018, 03:57 PM
The water quality is suspect for sure.  I find the walleyes don't taste that great out of there either until the water gets real cold and even then they don't compare to Sacandaga or some other lakes IMO. 
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: lowaccord66 on Oct 11, 2018, 04:28 PM
I betcha a mohawk eye is better.
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: rondog on Oct 11, 2018, 05:45 PM
The algae bloom happens on Saratoga about this time almost every year, It usually lasts a week or two then it's gone. The Walleyes don't taste as good as other places only to the guy that can't catch them   :whistling: We did 7 on Sunday before noon and they tasted great
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: taxid on Oct 11, 2018, 07:54 PM
Actually in the aquaculture industry, which I am a part of, certain algae and bacteria species can indeed impart a disagreeable "off flavor" in fish raised outdoors. It's most common in nutrient rich or polluted waters. Fish farmers deal with this by holding the fish in a tank of clean water with no feed for a period of time to "purge" them of this off flavor.

I have no doubt this could occur in a lake depending on the species of algae present especially if the lake is nutrient rich from runoff of fertilizers, septic leaching etc. 

Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: lowaccord66 on Oct 12, 2018, 05:57 AM
The Walleyes don't taste as good as other places only to the guy that can't catch them   :whistling:

Someone get rondog a Pulitzer for that quote.   :P

Taste is an eye of the beholder thing.  If you hate hotdogs and cant catch them....they still taste like hotdogs. I'm pretty sure metaphors dont change taste.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: filetandrelease on Oct 12, 2018, 08:14 AM
 Lmao , taste is and individual thing
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: rondog on Oct 12, 2018, 08:26 AM
Actually in the aquaculture industry, which I am a part of, certain algae and bacteria species can indeed impart a disagreeable "off flavor" in fish raised outdoors. It's most common in nutrient rich or polluted waters. Fish farmers deal with this by holding the fish in a tank of clean water with no feed for a period of time to "purge" them of this off flavor.

I have no doubt this could occur in a lake depending on the species of algae present especially if the lake is nutrient rich from runoff of fertilizers, septic leaching etc.
What  " certain algae and bacteria  " are we talking about? The lake gets like this every year for a few weeks do you think this would have an effect on the taste of the fish fro the remainder of the year?
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: hunts2long on Oct 12, 2018, 08:54 AM
Nothing wrong with a few "greens" with your fish...h2l
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: filetandrelease on Oct 12, 2018, 08:58 AM
Nothing wrong with a few "greens" with your fish...h2l
🍽 🥗 😜
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: Tom Hannock on Oct 12, 2018, 08:58 AM
The algae bloom happens on Saratoga about this time almost every year, It usually lasts a week or two then it's gone. The Walleyes don't taste as good as other places only to the guy that can't catch them   :whistling: We did 7 on Sunday before noon and they tasted great

And this is coming from the guy who catches walleyes and doesn't even eat them :whistling: 
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: Tom Hannock on Oct 12, 2018, 09:01 AM
Lmao , taste is and individual thing

What's odd is Oneida gets a heck of an algae bloom and I think the walleyes from there are as good as any I've ever had even our local water supply reservoir walleye that's as clean as could be and doesn't allow boats.
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: rondog on Oct 12, 2018, 11:51 AM
And this is coming from the guy who catches walleyes and doesn't even eat them :whistling:
You do get tired of eating them after awhile :flag:
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: Tom Hannock on Oct 12, 2018, 02:26 PM
You do get tired of eating them after awhile :flag:

I don't know about that.  I'm having some vacumn sealed Sacandaga walleye tonight :w00t:  Do you still want some garlic?  It's time to plant that if the ground isn't too wet.  I put mine in this week and have lots left to eat and plant. 
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: lowaccord66 on Oct 12, 2018, 02:38 PM
Sounds good Tom!
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: filetandrelease on Oct 12, 2018, 03:17 PM

Thanks Tom , I only eat the smaller ones out of Oneida , I toss the bigger ones back ,
  I have noticed some waters they do taste a little different , I don’t care for eyes out of lake Ontario , best eyes ive ever ate came from black lake , , , just my .02
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: Swampking89 on Oct 12, 2018, 03:23 PM
Apples to apples,walleyes can't be beat(except perch and pannies)
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: lowaccord66 on Oct 12, 2018, 04:03 PM
Apples to apples,walleyes can't be beat(except perch and pannies)

A well cared for slab of blackfish is definelty a contender!
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: rondog on Oct 12, 2018, 05:30 PM
I don't know about that.  I'm having some vacumn sealed Sacandaga walleye tonight :w00t:  Do you still want some garlic?  It's time to plant that if the ground isn't too wet.  I put mine in this week and have lots left to eat and plant.
I'll call you tomorrow
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: taxid on Oct 18, 2018, 03:24 PM
What  " certain algae and bacteria  " are we talking about? The lake gets like this every year for a few weeks do you think this would have an effect on the taste of the fish fro the remainder of the year?

Here's a good read that may apply to not only aquaculture waters but public waters too. In fact I know it does as I have a friend that identifies them for a living in water samples sent to him. The following is probably more than you want to know but...

https://agrilifecdn.tamu.edu/fisheries/files/2013/09/SRAC-Publication-No.-192-Managing-Off-Flavor-Problems-in-Pond-Raised-Catfish.pdf

As far as the rest of the year I would assume it depends on if the culprits are still present albeit in diluted form, and if that lesser amount still has an effect.
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: trapper2000 on Oct 18, 2018, 05:39 PM
A well cared for slab of blackfish is definelty a contender!

sea bass too
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: lowaccord66 on Oct 18, 2018, 06:08 PM
sea bass too

Like those too! 

Cecil, that made for interesting reading.  Sadly we suffer from blue green in some CT lakes.  One of which got so bad there was a health advisory. 
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: SHaRPS on Oct 19, 2018, 09:13 AM
X2 on the black fish fillets. In my opinion the absolute best tasting fish and best textured fish for fish and chips. Holds firm but yet flaky. Sea bass is tasty as well but much more of a "white fish".

We had 4 ponds in RI this year with blue green algae. sucks.

Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: taxid on Oct 19, 2018, 09:32 AM
Like those too! 

Cecil, that made for interesting reading.  Sadly we suffer from blue green in some CT lakes.  One of which got so bad there was a health advisory.

That's a shame. Some blue greens can kill livestock and dogs drinking the water.
Title: Re: Saratoga Lake
Post by: lowaccord66 on Oct 19, 2018, 06:25 PM
It is.  No agriculture around either.  Just wealthy home owners and green lawns...