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Title: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on May 28, 2019, 11:20 AM
took a few pictures while checking things out


(https://i.postimg.cc/302vyWGB/a1wrights1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/302vyWGB)



(https://i.postimg.cc/m13PLJxp/a1wrights2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/m13PLJxp)



(https://i.postimg.cc/dLtdB2bM/a1wright3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dLtdB2bM)

there is signs on the toad no wake  5 mph  anywhere with in 1000 feet of shore  if we get any waves at all the parking lot will be completely under water......and it's still rising
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: big_guy_13021 on May 28, 2019, 12:01 PM
That's some high water rite there that's for sure
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: filetandrelease on May 28, 2019, 12:05 PM

Thanks for the pics trapp , and from what I read the lake hasn’t crested yet ,
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on May 28, 2019, 12:09 PM
they said 6 to 12 inches more
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: Rugburn on May 28, 2019, 04:29 PM
Yikes Trapper....thanks for the update. Is that harbor a pier anchored floating setup? Been a few years since I was last there.
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: jager61 on May 28, 2019, 07:54 PM
Was there fishing the weekend. The docks are floating with the rising water level. Wright’s is providing pallets and building wooden walk ways onto the docks which is a huge help.  Biggest headache is not having shore power to connect to our boats. Lots of generators running.
At least the salmon and browns don’t care! 😃
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on May 28, 2019, 08:33 PM
water comes up any more you won't have a parking lot there ....
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on May 30, 2019, 05:41 AM
as of  yesterday  we are 1.2 inches  away  from the  2017 record and the water still has  not peeked  :(
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: rgfixit on May 30, 2019, 06:55 AM
Nearly the wettest spring on record. All the lakeshore residents are crying for my tax dollars for break walls, repairs etc...etc....etc. Mostly they blame "Plan 2014" for the high levels and not good old Mother Nature.

Maybe it's global warming....or one of Trump's secret plots.

If it keeps up I'll start builidng Arks in the Little Wood Shop.

Rg
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: joefish1 on May 30, 2019, 07:16 AM
Nearly the wettest spring on record. All the lakeshore residents are crying for my tax dollars for break walls, repairs etc...etc....etc. Mostly they blame "Plan 2014" for the high levels and not good old Mother Nature.

Maybe it's global warming....or one of Trump's secret plots.

If it keeps up I'll start builidng Arks in the Little Wood Shop.

Rg
  As always you can't teach common sense and they all forget  the number one rule ( MOTHER NATURE ALWAYS WINS )
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: rgfixit on May 30, 2019, 07:25 AM
From the 50's to the 70's our family had a cottage north of Lyndonville on Lake O. In the last 50 years more than 100' or shore line has disappeared along with that cottage and all the others in the cove. A neighbor had huge blocks of sandstone stacked for a breakwall.

It's all gravel at the bottom of the lake now.

Rg
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: filetandrelease on May 30, 2019, 07:33 AM
 Water runs down hill and 85% of it comes from Erie , must be the other 15%
 I’ve lived near Lake Ontario my whole life and have seen lots of shore line erosion along the eastern basin
 

Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: jperch on May 30, 2019, 08:50 AM
Nearly the wettest spring on record. All the lakeshore residents are crying for my tax dollars for break walls, repairs etc...etc....etc. Mostly they blame "Plan 2014" for the high levels and not good old Mother Nature.

Maybe it's global warming....or one of Trump's secret plots.

If it keeps up I'll start builidng Arks in the Little Wood Shop.

Rg
Let me know when you start taking orders Bob.  Our family cottage is on a concrete slab on Lake O near Rochester, close to the outlet.  When I was a boy there was so much beach that you had to wear flip flops in the summer to go for a swim to prevent the bottom of your feet from getting burned.  I would say 150'.  Now the lake is right up against the slab.  My grandfather (I believe) built the first cottage there well before WW II and had no idea the lake would rise several feet over the decades.  I agree there is probably no reason why the Feds should reimburse some of the costs for shoreline damages.  For many, like my brother, the "cottage" is his home and he is working as hard as he can to save it.  In the end, yes, mother nature always wins.  (Think Miami, NYC, ...)
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: reeleyz on May 30, 2019, 10:47 AM
I see on another website that they may have closed the launch now?

Secret plot by NYS (I know it is not a state launch) to raise the water, close all of the launches, less fish get caught, stocking numbers go down...

On a positive note, it definitely makes for better fishing. If you can get out.
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on May 30, 2019, 11:13 AM
The problem and answer is massena to open the gates on the st lawerance .....i was fishing by the marine museum  and the water is about a footvfrom going over the wall hope we  dont get a bad north west wind....this problem all started  with the  2014 water level plan  and instead of  both governments (us and  Canada) admitting it  is causing  flooding  they decide to  say  be patient it will work .....it will never work you have to let  the same amount of water out as comes in to stay at the same level .....the  joint commission screwed up
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on May 30, 2019, 01:29 PM
Nearly the wettest spring on record. All the lakeshore residents are crying for my tax dollars for break walls, repairs etc...etc....etc. Mostly they blame "Plan 2014" for the high levels and not good old Mother Nature.

Rg


RG blaming  plan 2014 only is common since , if you don't let out as much water  as is  coming in ,the level  goes up under the plane  they  can't lower the lake in the  fall  nor  change  flow  depending on run off  ...it isn't  working   it  went in effect  summer  0f  2016   spring of  2017  flood  .... above  average   rain  in 2019 flood  .....all in hopes  of  keeping the  lake  at  a  consistent level???? nature  never did that and it worked out just fine 

good  news  it will be a  great lake Ontario  perch year  ;D
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: reeleyz on May 30, 2019, 02:13 PM
https://oswegocountytoday.com/oswego-wrights-landing-marina-temporarily-closed-due-to-high-water-levels-and-flooding/lead-story/ (https://oswegocountytoday.com/oswego-wrights-landing-marina-temporarily-closed-due-to-high-water-levels-and-flooding/lead-story/)
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on May 30, 2019, 02:25 PM
ain't that something ,and I have to be honest it isn't safe down there right now a wave could go right up into the parking lot or someone could walk off the wall into deep water
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: jperch on May 30, 2019, 04:17 PM
ain't that something ,and I have to be honest it isn't safe down there right now a wave could go right up into the parking lot or someone could walk off the wall into deep water
I bet the rockies are sleeping better now at night Trapper!
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: rgfixit on May 30, 2019, 05:24 PM
If they let as much water out as is coming in everything downstream of Messina would be feet under water. Lowering the lake level by 1 inch increases the St Lawrence at Montreal by 11 inches. Not to mention the immediate impact on billions of dollars of shipping.

It's a serious balancing act and I wouldn't want the job. A lose lose situation for sure.

Just look at Oneida and multiply that by the Great Lakes drainage system. Blaming Plan 2014 is ignorance of the facts.

Rg
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: filetandrelease on May 30, 2019, 05:34 PM
The Ottawa river which flows into the st Lawrence is all ready over it’s banks so I’m told , so more water would flood Montreal , and I’m betting that’s not happening , just a guess
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on May 30, 2019, 05:40 PM
no  before plan 2014  the lake would have  been lowered   during the fall and  winter   they can't do that under  plan 2014  so you have the lake  built up then the increase  of run off and rain and now where  again stuck  ....scrape  2014 and  go back to lowering in the fall and  winter  works on all the other lakes 


when you can't get to your boat  remember how green and  safe  hydropower is   ::)
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: filetandrelease on May 30, 2019, 06:11 PM

 http://But that report estimated the Plan 2014 would, on average, increase the lake level by only 2 inches over Plan 1958D. Lake Ontario is now 27 inches above the long-term average for May.

While it’s little comfort to homeowners, the report noted that damage to coastal development is inevitable under any regulation plan. Under Plan 1958D, the report estimated, high water levels caused about $15.5 million in damage. That would increase by $2 million, the report said, although it would affect mostly sea walls and other retaining structures, not houses.

This year, as in 2017, Lake Ontario is taking in more water than it can let out. Upstream, Lake Erie has reached record levels thanks to heavy rains across the Great Lakes basin, and has been dumping water into Lake Ontario at unprecedented rates. About 85 percent of the water that flows into Lake Ontario comes from Erie.
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: rgfixit on May 30, 2019, 06:14 PM
Exactly!

Rg
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: rgfixit on May 30, 2019, 06:30 PM
Type type search search....... :-\

Can't argue the facts.

Rg
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on May 30, 2019, 08:13 PM
but if the lake had been lowered in the fall and winter  the water wouldn't be as high as it is now only stands to reason .....exact reason they lower the finger lakes every year
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: Mac Attack on May 30, 2019, 09:00 PM
but if the lake had been lowered in the fall and winter  the water wouldn't be as high as it is now only stands to reason .....exact reason they lower the finger lakes every year

And most reservoirs Trap.
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on May 30, 2019, 09:03 PM
yup common since  mac
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: gotagetm on May 30, 2019, 09:50 PM
Wow,you should run for president or office of some kind sounds like you have all the answers to straighten it all out !! Hahaha
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: jperch on May 30, 2019, 09:56 PM
It has been an unusually wet spring of course and I guess the outflow system is just not robust enough to respond.  I think it also has been more cloudy than usual which may reduce evaporation of the great lakes?  They can't accurately predict these things a year in advance.  I heard from a relative that the St. Lawrence is a minefield now with wayward docks, trees, barrels and other debris.

It is what it is for now.  I say drink more water and flush less often, we can all do our part. :o
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: rgfixit on May 31, 2019, 03:01 AM
If you read the reports( a little research) you'll find that throughout 2017 and 2018 discharge levele were way above normal and at maximum given it's effect on downstream  St Lawrence. Unfortunately there's no magical way to send more water to the ocean without drowning everything in its path. Simply put, we've created a system to try and control amounts of water flow that are uncontrollably high.

No different than much of the mid west where the Missouri River is overflowing or the floods in Louisiana in 2016.

As I said before, lowering the level of Lake Ontario by 1" raises the level of the St. Lawrence by 11". Lake Ontario was 27" above normal. If it were discharged it would equate to 24 feet of water rise downstream. Not to mention that to lower Lake Ontario as some think , the flow from Lake Erie would have to be stopped. Lake Erie provides 85% of the water that feeds Lake Ontario.

It's not about what they did or didn't do last fall. It's just 3 years of extraordinary rainfall.

Rg


Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on May 31, 2019, 05:56 AM
again the water release  over the summer was according to 2014 in a attempt to keep lake Ontario ar  the projected  plus minus 4 feet ....more water could have been let  out....it wasn't  they followed  the 2014 plan ......  leaving the lake  at what they considered the desirable level ..... research all you want  you can't pure more water in a full glass .....

Gov Cuomo touched on this  Sunday at Oswego marina  ..... lake Ontario  does a lot less damage a  foot low  in the  summer  them  3 foot high now...... you keep  researching  RG   we'll fix it  don't worry

side note  Rudy's is still open the Texas Hots and fish sandwiches are great  but the have sand bags out back  to stop damage if the wind picks up

and I still caught some dukes and 2 smallies lol ...becareful that water is  scary high
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: rgfixit on May 31, 2019, 06:38 AM
I'll sleep better knowing your on the case.

Rg
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: Rugburn on May 31, 2019, 07:21 AM
Glad to hear Rudy's is still ok for the time being. If the current trend continues, while the Army engineers are around, they could get approved for a pier system drive through for boaters.... :w00t:
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: rgfixit on May 31, 2019, 07:24 AM
There used to be a floating hot dog stand on I-Bay in the summer. It was kind of cool to pull up and get boat side service.

Rg
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on May 31, 2019, 07:41 AM
Glad to hear Rudy's is still ok for the time being. If the current trend continues, while the Army engineers are around, they could get approved for a pier system drive through for boaters.... :w00t:

years ago Rudy's had a dock for boats  ,not sure what happened to it


ilike the drive there idea  :rotflol:
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 02, 2019, 05:04 AM
IT"S OFFICIAL

The water level in Lake Ontario hit a modern-day high on Friday, exceeding by a sliver the record set just two years ago.

The preliminary calculation for Friday showed the lake at 248.98 feet above sea level. That surpassed the record of 248.95 feet, which was reached on four different days in late May 2017.


all boats are being removed from wrights landing .....first time for this


see if I can get some more pictures today
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: filetandrelease on Jun 02, 2019, 06:22 AM

   Pain in the groin moving those tubs
They are saying as much as an inch above the 2017 record ,  but could be higher  as Erie may break a record set in 1986 ,plus the added rain figuring in ,
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 02, 2019, 07:44 AM
Erie is sure dumping a lot of water into Lake O.

Sure puts a damper on a lot of business. Is Oneida high because of rain or inflow from the canal system?

Looked to me like the creek I fish nearby came up 6" or so overnight although the USGS monitoring station doesn't reflect my opinion. Fished it yesterday and it was high, but reasonable. Really riled up this morning. Must have rained a lot to the south of us. Not much other than sprinkles around here.
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: filetandrelease on Jun 02, 2019, 08:14 AM

RG they had rain south of me hard , far as Oneida they have it under control , as of last Thursday I walked out on dry land to cast and the week before I used my hippers to get to the same spot ,my knee boots might have worked just avoiding the splash over
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: reeleyz on Jun 02, 2019, 09:44 AM
Oneida dropped about a foot in the last 2 weeks.
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 02, 2019, 02:34 PM
the record was surpassed Friday the lake is even higher today....... I say we all stop wasting time and move rudys across the street now!
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: filetandrelease on Jun 02, 2019, 06:44 PM

Made a run to Oswego this afternoon , it’s not a pretty sight ,
(https://i.postimg.cc/kVdL2ZMb/76-D4-A98-B-E2-B3-4223-810-E-F7-A7250-CC124.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kVdL2ZMb)

(https://i.postimg.cc/94tKZpzN/9-FBB7082-F77-E-46-B2-99-F6-923-DC3-F0-A146.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/94tKZpzN)

(https://i.postimg.cc/fVd6TZss/C2-D88547-3-E2-A-4-B16-8-BC9-61-EECB7-BED0-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fVd6TZss)

(https://i.postimg.cc/wywrbjXX/FB2-B911-B-3271-4544-834-C-227-B575640-BE.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wywrbjXX)
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 02, 2019, 07:20 PM
down there myself freddie


(https://i.postimg.cc/qh7td13P/a1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qh7td13P)



(https://i.postimg.cc/9r9DVRDQ/a2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9r9DVRDQ)


on the  way  out i hit  48 just  as i got next to the golf course  this  guy was out  during the  day time and he looked  sick  i warned a  jogger and a  guy walking his  dog




(https://i.postimg.cc/kVJGxTf2/a3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kVJGxTf2)

you might have to zoom in to really see him he looked  bad
it wasn't mange i never seen a fox look so sick
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 04, 2019, 06:20 AM
you can still get to the launch area of wrights   and 3 charter boats are still running off the main dock the  road is now barricaded with a no trespassing sign the parking lot is flooded worse and yesterday afternoon  had waves in the parking lot ......without doubt I never seen flooding in lake Ontario like this..........
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: filetandrelease on Jun 04, 2019, 06:26 AM

Yes sir it’s still rising  Lake Erie is at an all time high and Canada is at flood stage , nothing that can be done other than ride it out
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 04, 2019, 06:40 AM
no more rock bass fishing in the parking lots Freddie  :rotflol:

going to ride the lake shore abit see what it looks like rice creek has to be really bad
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: jperch on Jun 04, 2019, 07:09 AM
I stopped by yesterday afternoon and looked down from the McCrobie Building at the marina.  There were ducks and geese paddling around in the road and parking lot, people tossing bread to them.  I was surprised that there was still a number of boats docked.
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 04, 2019, 07:44 AM
lot of boats are staying  from what the people told me the charter boats aren't going anywhere
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: Mac Attack on Jun 04, 2019, 02:39 PM
https://www.abc12.com/content/news/Great-Lakes-510777081.html?fbclid=IwAR32hJ4zbEoK1z004VbBVt18vC35lXBFZQb9dDyHBrlswm_xkzWxI_yXhFY (https://www.abc12.com/content/news/Great-Lakes-510777081.html?fbclid=IwAR32hJ4zbEoK1z004VbBVt18vC35lXBFZQb9dDyHBrlswm_xkzWxI_yXhFY)
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 04, 2019, 02:55 PM
Yikes!
So much for blaming "Plan 2014".

Rg
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: reeleyz on Jun 04, 2019, 05:31 PM
Yikes!
So much for blaming "Plan 2014".

Rg

Where would the Lake Ontario water level be if the lake was dropped 18” over the fall and winter?

Just sayin’
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 04, 2019, 05:40 PM
Where would the Lake Ontario water level be if the lake was dropped 18” over the fall and winter?

Just sayin’

EXACTLY!
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: Badbrad2186 on Jun 04, 2019, 06:34 PM
Where would the Lake Ontario water level be if the lake was dropped 18” over the fall and winter?

Just sayin’

By my math it would only be 14 inches above normal which means flooding would be at a minimum right now
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: Mac Attack on Jun 04, 2019, 07:02 PM
[url][https://www.wwnytv.com/2019/06/03/lake-ontario-water-levels-hit-new-record-high/?fbclid=IwAR16dIWdwv5QK5q-RmHgCgJ_OKJ0qdJ5WnkrtB_iFyar3QLIMwAUX0mBIqc/url]
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: reeleyz on Jun 04, 2019, 07:33 PM

 (http://[https://www.wwnytv.com/2019/06/03/lake-ontario-water-levels-hit-new-record-high/?fbclid=IwAR16dIWdwv5QK5q-RmHgCgJ_OKJ0qdJ5WnkrtB_iFyar3QLIMwAUX0mBIqc/url)

https://www.wwnytv.com/2019/06/03/lake-ontario-water-levels-hit-new-record-high/?fbclid=IwAR16dIWdwv5QK5q-RmHgCgJ_OKJ0qdJ5WnkrtB_iFyar3QLIMwAUX0mBIqc][https://www.wwnytv.com/2019/06/03/lake-ontario-water-levels-hit-new-record-high/?fbclid=IwAR16dIWdwv5QK5q-RmHgCgJ_OKJ0qdJ5WnkrtB_iFyar3QLIMwAUX0mBIqc/url][/quote][url]https://www.wwnytv.com/2019/06/03/lake-ontario-water-levels-hit-new-record-high/?fbclid=IwAR16dIWdwv5QK5q-RmHgCgJ_OKJ0qdJ5WnkrtB_iFyar3QLIMwAUX0mBIqc
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 05, 2019, 05:03 AM
Where would the Lake Ontario water level be if the lake was dropped 18” over the fall and winter?

Just sayin’

Well, all the reports I've read say it wasn't possible without putting Montreal under water and killing shipping on the seaway.

"Just saying"

Rg
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 05, 2019, 05:16 AM
Here's a recent article relating to a visit by the IJC commissioners to Greece.

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2019/05/28/lake-ontario-flooding-international-joint-commission-greece-plan-2014-corwin-beland/1258828001/ (https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2019/05/28/lake-ontario-flooding-international-joint-commission-greece-plan-2014-corwin-beland/1258828001/)

Rg
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: reeleyz on Jun 05, 2019, 05:27 AM
Well, all the reports I've read say it wasn't possible without putting Montreal under water and killing shipping on the seaway.

"Just saying"

Rg

I don’t know the details. I just know that in the winter there is a lot less water flowing in so the lake level could possibly drop without increasing the water flow coming out. So it might not negatively effect anyone downstream.


Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: joefish1 on Jun 05, 2019, 05:45 AM
I don’t know the details. I just know that in the winter there is a lot less water flowing in so the lake level could possibly drop without increasing the water flow coming out. So it might not negatively effect anyone downstream.
  I live here on the River and can tell you there were places we couldn't ice fish because of the water flow all winter.  Moving water doesn't freeze.  Like I said before Number one rule  " Mother Nature always wins "
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 05, 2019, 06:02 AM
Well, all the reports I've read say it wasn't possible without putting Montreal under water and killing shipping on the seaway.

"Just saying"

Rg

ottawa river wasn't flooded in the fall or winter  they chose to follow plan 2014 and ended up with the same results as 2017.....

" The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result." credited to Albert Einstein


mother should I trust the government

Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 05, 2019, 06:59 AM
One of the first things Oblio and Arrow noticed about the Pointless Forest was that all the leaves on all the trees had points, and all the trees had points. In fact, even the branches of all the trees pointed in different directions, which seemed a little strange for a pointless forest. […] Oblio told the Rock Man that they were banished and asked him whether or not this was the Pointless Forest.

The Rock Man said, “Say, babe, there ain’t nothing pointless about this gig. The thing is you see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear. You dig? Did you ever see Paris?”

“No.”

“Did you ever see New Delhi?”

“No.”

“Well, that’s it. You see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear.”

—Nilsson, The Point (1971)

Seems appropriate for a pointless conversation.

Rg
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 05, 2019, 07:42 AM
 THERE ARE NONE SO BLIND AS THOSE WHO DO NOT SEE      Matthew 9:26-27.

go argue with God 


new reports now estimate the water will not peak  for 2 to 3 weeks :(  I feel so sorry for the home owners and   people that own camps and business ....hope they can apply for fema


think it's time to get the flood victims help
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 05, 2019, 11:31 AM
https://www.syracuse.com/opinion/2019/06/lake-ontario-flooding-isnt-bad-luck-plan-2014-is-flawed-commentary.html (https://www.syracuse.com/opinion/2019/06/lake-ontario-flooding-isnt-bad-luck-plan-2014-is-flawed-commentary.html)

hmmm seems I'm not the only one that feels this way 

https://www.rochesterfirst.com/news/video/state-lawmakers-continue-to-blame-plan-2014-for-flooding_20190604035757/2050608322 (https://www.rochesterfirst.com/news/video/state-lawmakers-continue-to-blame-plan-2014-for-flooding_20190604035757/2050608322)


Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 05, 2019, 04:16 PM
I guess you're "wright" again. Shame on me for thinking.

Rg
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 05, 2019, 07:29 PM
I am right, if they had  lowered the water in the  fall and winter when they could have  a  foot and a half  we would not be in this  position now .... ever other res lets water out  in the fall and  winter  knowing the run off problems of  spring .....now   millions of dollars worth of  damages   lost business lost  tourism ...... RG you do know it's ok to question the  government  and  when  a plan doesn't work to adjust it so it does  instead of making excuses  while people loss their homes......
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: Mac Attack on Jun 05, 2019, 07:58 PM
One of the first things Oblio and Arrow noticed about the Pointless Forest was that all the leaves on all the trees had points, and all the trees had points. In fact, even the branches of all the trees pointed in different directions, which seemed a little strange for a pointless forest. […] Oblio told the Rock Man that they were banished and asked him whether or not this was the Pointless Forest.

The Rock Man said, “Say, babe, there ain’t nothing pointless about this gig. The thing is you see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear. You dig? Did you ever see Paris?”

“No.”

“Did you ever see New Delhi?”

“No.”

“Well, that’s it. You see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear.”

—Nilsson, The Point (1971)

Seems appropriate for a pointless conversation.

Rg


Loved that cartoon (parable).

Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 09, 2019, 08:43 PM
Oswego river is down to 7,200 at lock 7 that's driftable  ;D
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: Bluegillonafly on Jun 11, 2019, 06:27 AM
Rg....loved Harry Nilsson.
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 12, 2019, 12:23 PM
ent down to the river to fish but water came back up so I went to wrights landing and breitbeck park

water is higher then last time I was there  and  seen some interesting things

first is they added more pallets to the bridges to get to the docks

(https://i.postimg.cc/3WBBg9KK/flood1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3WBBg9KK)

this is the back parking lot my finger must have gotten in the way but you can see the entire parking lot is under water


(https://i.postimg.cc/9rCk2rff/flood5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9rCk2rff)

so walking around i noticed buck eyes  swimming where i use to park



(https://i.postimg.cc/dk08ncQw/flood6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dk08ncQw)

then further  down i noticed small perch in the parking lot and roadway


(https://i.postimg.cc/w7zBdcJs/flood4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w7zBdcJs)

and this is a reminder that  this flood is costing us more then docking our boats but alot of money


(https://i.postimg.cc/N2sfRQQk/flood3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N2sfRQQk)


(https://i.postimg.cc/kDJn1Xdx/flood2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kDJn1Xdx)

so far 300 million has been promised  by  Gov cuomo for  flood assistance
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 12, 2019, 06:38 PM
Gee, I'm so happy about that. Thanks for letting me know.

Rg
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: filetandrelease on Jun 12, 2019, 06:44 PM
 
Nice report trapp
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 12, 2019, 06:55 PM
Gee, I'm so happy about that. Thanks for letting me know.

Rg

well I truly hope  people are more compassionate  toward you  or yours if  you ever have your home or business  flooded .......
but I wasn't actually posting to you RG  a lot of my friends  have charter services there and  others have  boats and   jobs at the marina ....you might not be interested but others might be ...... so hows that weber and garden doing?
Freddie I knew you would like the parking lot perch
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 12, 2019, 07:49 PM
Weber and gardens are doing just fine. High and dry! Just the way I envisioned it and no one else has to pay for my decisions.

You be compassionate...open up your wallet.....give them all you've got. More power too you.

Rg
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 12, 2019, 08:11 PM
hey those business and homeowners on water front property  pay a lot more in taxes then we do   not to mention most of those homeowners are the very people that give us access to fishing  spots .... RG I really don't  understand why your  being the way you are but   have a beer   man and  relax. there is nothing personal  here  ...... 
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 12, 2019, 08:30 PM
Well, decorum prohibits the response I'd really like to give. So..... I'm out.

Rg
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 12, 2019, 09:07 PM
like I said RG this is my home water that I fish all the time so yes I'm interested that's why I started the  tread .....there is nothing  directed nor personal  toward you in any way ...... lot of my friends  that own homes and business  are being hurt  again ..... I don't understand your anger I never  said anything against you personally  I just had a different  opinion on cause   so do a lot of our law makers ..... there is no  malice toward you
just a simple and  honest  report on the waters I fish  what I observed  and pictures I took....
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: Mac Attack on Jun 13, 2019, 07:04 AM
https://buffalonews.com/2019/06/12/ijc-delays-meeting-sees-no-quick-action-on-plan-2014/ (https://buffalonews.com/2019/06/12/ijc-delays-meeting-sees-no-quick-action-on-plan-2014/)
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: Chowdaire on Jun 13, 2019, 08:41 AM
Thanks for the reports, Trapp. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: Pequod1 on Jun 13, 2019, 10:18 AM
Thank you trapp for your reports and pictures. I saved myself a two hour drive because of those pictures.  Your diligence and reports on the flooding were spot on.
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: coachwarner on Jun 13, 2019, 10:36 AM
Anybody want my opinion?!! :w00t:
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: filetandrelease on Jun 13, 2019, 10:54 AM

Why not we are all entitled to an opinion
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 13, 2019, 11:05 AM
remember bass season opens sat and I guess you could be ticketed if you launch at wrights ..... if the river isn't to bad  you can launch under the bridge street bridge east side  but that river is moving and that's a at least 2 person launch  and it's not a official launch
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: Mac Attack on Jun 13, 2019, 01:38 PM
https://www.change.org/p/president-trump-repeal-plan-2014?recruiter=166855374&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&utm_term=psf_combo_share_abi&recruited_by_id=375b7c90-5598-11e4-83ff-9d75164efeba&share_bandit_exp=initial-15970625-en-US&share_bandit_var=v1&utm_content=mit-15970625-10%3Av2
 (https://www.change.org/p/president-trump-repeal-plan-2014?recruiter=166855374&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&utm_term=psf_combo_share_abi&recruited_by_id=375b7c90-5598-11e4-83ff-9d75164efeba&share_bandit_exp=initial-15970625-en-US&share_bandit_var=v1&utm_content=mit-15970625-10%3Av2)
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 13, 2019, 01:52 PM
Why not we are all entitled to an opinion

Yup!

Rg
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 13, 2019, 02:20 PM
this  is a  quick look to the  north of  us  ....many of use  have  enjoyed  fishing at sandy pond  and  accessed  at  green point ......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsyNKrCOhGc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsyNKrCOhGc)

sodus point
[urlhttps://fingerlakes1.com/2019/05/29/sodus-point-prepares-for-historic-flooding-video/][/url]



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Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: wallyworld on Jun 13, 2019, 02:54 PM
Man I sure do feel for the people/businesses on the lake  :(   seems there's no end in sight  :-\
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 13, 2019, 03:48 PM
people need help ,it's a shame  really is
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jun 13, 2019, 03:58 PM
The Governor is helping them.... ;)
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 13, 2019, 04:55 PM
The Governor is helping them.... ;)
I was in oswego when  he  came  dacker and I'm not a  Cuomo fan   but I  think he was honestly  concerened   I been  driving the  lake  shore and   looking the damage is   really bad ,this really needs to be addressed ,it's not fair that these folks are suffering not once but twice because a plan didn't take  into consideration rain and run off ....finally this is being admitted  maybe  changes can be made  for the future...but  we have to address the  damages now
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: filetandrelease on Jun 13, 2019, 05:43 PM
 Let’s hope this problem can be rectified
 Although my perch rods are ready
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: coachwarner on Jun 13, 2019, 06:22 PM
I was in oswego when  he  came  dacker and I'm not a  Cuomo fan   but I  think he was honestly  concerened   I been  driving the  lake  shore and   looking the damage is   really bad ,this really needs to be addressed ,it's not fair that
these folks are suffering not once but twice because a plan didn't take  into consideration rain and run off ....finally this is being admitted  maybe  changes can be made  for the future...but  we have to address the  damages now

Coumo is a big fat turd!    :w00t: :w00t:
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 13, 2019, 06:30 PM
Coumo is a big fat turd!    :w00t: :w00t:

ok 
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: coachwarner on Jun 13, 2019, 06:33 PM
He’s gonna sell you the economic development theory and that high lake levels are the new norm. With a little bit of global warming sprinkled on top 😂 you can take a bite of that chit samwich, but I’m not gonna  :w00t: :w00t:
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 13, 2019, 08:34 PM
couch this really isn't about Andrew Cuomo it's about  homes and business being flooded  ,how it's hurting the local economy and fishing
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 14, 2019, 07:37 AM
with bass season opening tomorrow I  made  a few  calls 

Selkirk shores Phone: (315) 298-5737

I was told   pine grove is  flooded and  closed  but if your careful you can launch small boats .....  mexico point is limited in the same  way and no  they are not charging at this time  ......  but the  lady  told me  small boats only I assume  car toppers  i'll use the  yak myself....

if I  find  more I will post them

oswego river is  backup over  11,000  so drifting worms and  crabs  would  be  useless
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: bigal409 on Jun 14, 2019, 11:21 AM
I had a buddy send me these pictures. Said they were from the lake yesterday with 28' waves
(https://i.postimg.cc/7fCYMmxn/20190613-122054.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7fCYMmxn)

(https://i.postimg.cc/4KGfGGpW/20190614-071338.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4KGfGGpW)

(https://i.postimg.cc/MvhZsVH2/20190614-071414.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MvhZsVH2)

(https://i.postimg.cc/VJnf2v0S/20190614-071427.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VJnf2v0S)
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: Mac Attack on Jun 14, 2019, 11:43 AM
walleye chop
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: filetandrelease on Jun 14, 2019, 12:46 PM

 Great pics
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: Rugburn on Jun 14, 2019, 01:02 PM



Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 14, 2019, 01:44 PM
cool pictures where are they from?
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: coachwarner on Jun 14, 2019, 04:33 PM
cool pictures where are they from?
The art gallery!!!  :w00t:
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: bigal409 on Jun 14, 2019, 04:47 PM
Here's a couple more. My buddy claims all are from lake Ontario.
(https://i.postimg.cc/nXsn0vXv/20190614-092146.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nXsn0vXv)

(https://i.postimg.cc/KRpZP98G/20190614-092208.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KRpZP98G)
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 14, 2019, 04:51 PM
just wondering where on ontario
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: Mac Attack on Jun 14, 2019, 05:01 PM
just wondering where on ontario

Out on the water
Maybe near shore

 ;D
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: rgfixit on Jun 14, 2019, 06:01 PM
Here's a couple more. My buddy claims all are from lake Ontario.
(https://i.postimg.cc/nXsn0vXv/20190614-092146.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nXsn0vXv)

(https://i.postimg.cc/KRpZP98G/20190614-092208.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KRpZP98G)

Bull!
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: Raquettedacker on Jun 14, 2019, 06:32 PM
I had those pictures on a calender years ago.. 8)
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 15, 2019, 09:47 AM
well the Oswego river is  back over  13,000 cfs  the  waves  are   crashing over  the  wall at Rudy's   hitting the  picnic  tables  and  now the lock in phoenix and fulton closed from my understanding ....I was going to use the  boat launch in phoenix  between the canal and  river  (island park) and the  access is  totally  closed ,from what I heard  it has to  do with the lock being closed......  still 2 bass this morning  and I seen a big coyote ....not a bad morning
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: Mac Attack on Jun 15, 2019, 10:56 AM
Not trying to pee you off Trap
But it’s looking like rain all week

I’m on vacation
So you can blame me
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: filetandrelease on Jun 15, 2019, 01:42 PM
Not trying to pee you off Trap
But it’s looking like rain all week

I’m on vacation
So you can blame me
Ok , that works for me 😜
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 15, 2019, 05:41 PM
i know mac  ...not sure  why they closed the park in phoenix   I don't see where the  locks would  hurt that
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: Framer1 on Jun 16, 2019, 11:42 AM
Trapper I heard they found a problem with the lock in Phoenix that needed immediate attention and repairs are underway.i don’t think it has anything to do with water level.i live and fish right there all the time so hopefully it doesn’t take too long
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 16, 2019, 12:08 PM
farmer I fish there all the time to I may have met you perch fishing and feeding that blue heron, yes I heard they closed the lock  and  need to work on it they can't control the water in the lock from what I heard  also they closed them in fulton too  (that's here say)....but I don't understand what that would have to do with the park????

I was going to launch in phoenix open day of bass but couldn't  oh well,still did ok  ;D
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: Framer1 on Jun 17, 2019, 05:56 AM
Yeah not sure about the park either.it was still closed this morning when I drove by
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 18, 2019, 04:59 PM
the Oswego river was flowing at 8500 this morning it is now at 7570 cfs ona slight rise  at phoenix it's running at 6000 cfs  I'm sure the drop will happen tonight  ;D
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: Mac Attack on Jun 18, 2019, 05:54 PM
the Oswego river was flowing at 8500 this morning it is now at 7570 cfs ona slight rise  at phoenix it's running at 6000 cfs  I'm sure the drop will happen tonight  ;D

Thursday it’s supposed to rain like crazy Trap.
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: filetandrelease on Jun 18, 2019, 06:12 PM

And more next week
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: big_guy_13021 on Jun 18, 2019, 06:19 PM
And more after that 👍👍
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 18, 2019, 08:47 PM
I went up to phoenix tonight I though it was the lock that was broken but they are jack hammering the bridge and have it closed now
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 19, 2019, 06:06 AM
Oswego river flow  at lock 7  is down too 6850 cfs  maybe  drift some  crawfish for smallies  today :D
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: bigal409 on Jun 19, 2019, 06:43 AM
Good luck Trapper. Go get 'em.  :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jun 23, 2019, 03:33 PM
if  you can  get  your  boat out the fish  are there   Oswego  harbor  is  still  flooded   and the  river is  running  somewhere  between  17,000 and  18,000 cfs  that  sorta   cancels  drifting   for  walleyes  or  bass ......
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 03, 2019, 03:03 PM
https://www.wrvo.org/post/landowners-threaten-lawsuit-over-lake-ontario-flooding (https://www.wrvo.org/post/landowners-threaten-lawsuit-over-lake-ontario-flooding)

I  been  told  their are other lawsuits  being filed  ,going to be interesting
Title: Re: wrights landing
Post by: trapper2000 on Jul 19, 2019, 06:25 PM
waterv still at flood levels  but I was fishing river was a slow drift  3200 cfs  now it's back up to 10,000 cfs  lot of rain in a short period of time