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Title: 5 wolves killed
Post by: er-e-is on Apr 03, 2008, 05:57 PM
According to www.pinedaleonline.com hunters have taken 5 wolves since the delisting last friday.
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 03, 2008, 06:50 PM
According to www.pinedaleonline.com hunters have taken 5 wolves since the delisting last friday.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D...makes my day, thank you. Don
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: Big Mack on Apr 03, 2008, 09:47 PM
I love to hear it! Go get em boys..........
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: Big Mack on Apr 03, 2008, 10:16 PM
May not have to work tomorrow, lets see float the snake, or go wolf hunting? Ahhhhhh decisions.
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: spudbar on Apr 04, 2008, 09:02 AM
apparently, one of them was killed off of the forty rod Rd by a well known fisherman on his way to one of the lakes up there, everybody pack your rifles.
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: Fish4Brains on Apr 04, 2008, 09:05 AM
Rock On!!!!
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: POk3s on Apr 05, 2008, 12:54 AM
SSSSSWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTT!
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: er-e-is on Apr 05, 2008, 09:20 AM
apparently, one of them was killed off of the forty rod Rd by a well known fisherman on his way to one of the lakes up there, everybody pack your rifles.

Isn't 40 Rod Rd in the "Trophy Game'' area and not in the "Predator Zone"?  I also heard that the Collared male was captured in Yellowstone, Collared there, recaptured in Utah and relocated back to Yellowstone and Killed near Daniel. Quite a wide range he was traveling. Also heard that the one female that was taken was full of pups.
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: hump on Apr 05, 2008, 11:36 AM
is bondurant in the predator zone?
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: Rodrunner on Apr 05, 2008, 11:39 AM
OHHHHHH....terrible news all these wolves being killed. Its a freak'n tragedy that I cant see one in my cross hairs.
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 05, 2008, 05:02 PM
Also heard that the one female that was taken was full of pups.
Hmmmm...if my recollection of wolf-biology is accurate, that would be the alpha-female of the pack? Yes, I believe it would.  ;D
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: er-e-is on Apr 05, 2008, 07:03 PM
Hmmmm...if my recollection of wolf-biology is accurate, that would be the alpha-female of the pack? Yes, I believe it would.  ;D

Yes, I do believe that you are right LT. Here's a couple of other articles that were posted today.

Wolves killing calves in Cora country (posted 4/4/08 )
Cat Urbigkit, Pinedale Online!
The early morning check of the calving pasture this morning was not a good one for a ranch in the Cora area of Sublette County this morning. At least two or three calves were killed by wolves overnight on the ranch. Fresh tracks in the snow indicate that two wolves are responsible for the predation. This is a different ranch from the one reporting problems with wolves in the calving pasture last week, where one was killed last Friday.

Related Links:
Wolf Watch - By Cat Urbigkit


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Two wolves killed in South Pass area (posted 4/4/08)
Cat Urbigkit, Pinedale Online!
Two wolves were killed in the predator management portion of the South Pass area on Thursday. The location of where these kills occurred is unknown at this time, but appears to be along the western flank of the southern Wind River Mountains, where the Prospect wolf pack has roamed in the past. Hunters have 10 days to report wolf kills to the Wyoming Game and Fish Department.

Related Links:
Wolf Watch - By Cat Urbigkit

Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 05, 2008, 07:14 PM
Very informative posts er-e-is, thanks, ...an invitation to local hunters from the rancher would no doubt be responded to by great numbers of men armed with high-caliber rifles and several boxes of ammo... Wish I lived closer. ;D
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: spudbar on Apr 07, 2008, 09:17 AM
Isn't 40 Rod Rd in the "Trophy Game'' area and not in the "Predator Zone"?  I also heard that the Collared male was captured in Yellowstone, Collared there, recaptured in Utah and relocated back to Yellowstone and Killed near Daniel. Quite a wide range he was traveling. Also heard that the one female that was taken was full of pups.

Forty rod rd is in the predator zone, As long as it's on that side of the elk fence, and not on National forest land.  All BLM and private is open as far as I know in the Pinedale area, you got to have permission for private, as far as Bondurant, every thing on  the southwest side of the highway is open except private unless you have permission. Good luck fellas they had a good wolf in the Elkhorn last night.
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: 1tigger on Apr 07, 2008, 10:14 AM
What is the going rate for a skin out there ?
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: Wyoming Ice on Apr 07, 2008, 01:30 PM
What is the going rate for a skin out there ?

 After I get my first one for me, I you can have the ones after that for the price of shipping... ;)  :tipup:
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: er-e-is on Apr 07, 2008, 09:05 PM
Four More Killed today...


Four wolves killed for livestock depredation (posted 4/7/08)
Federal animal damage control officials, working closely with a rancher, his personnel and the Sublette County Predator Board, killed four wolves Monday morning in the Cora/Pinedale area. The control effort was in response to livestock predation on the ranch, in which four calves have been killed and the wolves continued to return to the calving pastures during the night since at least last Thursday.

Related Links:
Wolf Watch - By Cat Urbigkit

Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: er-e-is on Apr 08, 2008, 08:13 AM
Forty rod rd is in the predator zone, As long as it's on that side of the elk fence, and not on National forest land.  All BLM and private is open as far as I know in the Pinedale area, you got to have permission for private, as far as Bondurant, every thing on  the southwest side of the highway is open except private unless you have permission. Good luck fellas they had a good wolf in the Elkhorn last night.

You are right, the National Forest Line is the boundry. For some reason I was thinking the highway was the boundry.
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: 1tigger on Apr 10, 2008, 05:28 PM
Get them while you can guy's because according to Wyoming Fish and Game it will all end at the end of the month .
There has been a suit filed against the state by the tree huggers to have it stopped and until the courts decide how to handle it there will be no more wolf harvest in ANY area .
This came from the guy that heads the Pinedale area Fish And Game .
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: moski on Apr 10, 2008, 06:05 PM
amen to that!  ;D
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: spudbar on Apr 10, 2008, 10:01 PM
Ya buddy,  if one of us ever gets one, you'll be invited to the wolf barbecue, if your not man enough to eat it,  you can leave.    Who said we ain't men, and don't eat our animals anyways?   Go back to Colorado, the Wyoming page ain't green.
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 10, 2008, 10:41 PM
I'm in...I have a cajun recipe.   :sick: naaah, really, wolf court boullion, but it feeds a lot of people so it's gonna take most of the wolves in Wyoming  ;D :rotflol: :clapping: :w00t:
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: spudbar on Apr 10, 2008, 11:02 PM
Smoked wolf with Ritz crackers and expensive cheese dip, and cheap domestic beer sounds pretty good to me.   :w00t:
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: Hellsangler on Apr 10, 2008, 11:17 PM
Smoke a Pack a day .
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb70/Inateliscoplenz/myfavorite/wolves-1.jpg)
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: er-e-is on Apr 11, 2008, 08:18 AM
Smoked wolf with Ritz crackers and expensive cheese dip, and cheap domestic beer sounds pretty good to me.   :w00t:

Don't forget Tobasco.......
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 11, 2008, 09:04 AM
Hey! Did some granola-eating tree-hugger slip in here undetected?!  :w00t:  ;D
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: spudbar on Apr 11, 2008, 09:52 PM
Well said  Dog...
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: Rodrunner on Apr 11, 2008, 10:02 PM
Yes we have ate wolf!   it tastes just like the rest of the enviro-bullsht!   
 Not only that I'm tired of my taxes going to the lawsuit-defense of you limpwristed, wolf lovin, bunny huggin, yogurt and bean sprout eatin morons

 Point being.......your taking the food off my table, to feed an invasive-species >:(

Amen brother..I'm on the east side of the bighorns and according to the Game and fish "There aren't any wolves over here" Problem with that statement is several people have seen them over the past couple years. We figure they probably migrated from the rockies. At any rate hope I get a chnce to see one close up..Say maybe 4X12X40 Xmarks the spot BOOOM....ooops dang hair trigger.gotta watch that thing ;)
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: moski on Apr 12, 2008, 12:18 AM
Yes we have ate wolf!   it tastes just like the rest of the enviro-bullsht!   
 Not only that I'm tired of my taxes going to the lawsuit-defense of you limpwristed, wolf lovin, bunny huggin, yogurt and bean sprout eatin morons

 Point being.......your taking the food off my table, to feed an invasive-species >:(
whooooo hoooo! thats what i'm talkin about!!!! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 12, 2008, 08:49 AM
Get them while you can guy's because according to Wyoming Fish and Game it will all end at the end of the month .
There has been a suit filed against the state by the tree huggers to have it stopped and until the courts decide how to handle it there will be no more wolf harvest in ANY area .
This came from the guy that heads the Pinedale area Fish And Game .
Hmmmm...I'm not real sure the G&F can un-ring that bell now that the door's been opened  :whistling:
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: er-e-is on Apr 13, 2008, 08:00 AM
Here's a couple of interesting articles

Wolf tally to date (posted 4/12/08)
Cat Urbigkit, Pinedale Online!
Here's the tally of wolves taken in Wyoming since delisting occurred on March 28:

3/28/08 1 male Cora killed by rancher in calving pasture
3/28/08 1 female Daniel
3/28/08 2 males Daniel
3/30/08 1 male Daniel
4/02/08 1 female Bondurant
4/03/08 1 male South Pass
4/03/08 1 female South Pass
4/06/08 1 male Bondurant
4/07/08 3 males Cora by control action
4/07/08 1 female Cora by control action

Total: 13 killed in predator management area of the state. Five of these wolves were killed because of conflicts with livestock. The remainder were taken by hunters.

All but the two South Pass wolves were killed in Sublette County. These two were killed near county border in neighboring Fremont County in an area where the Prospect Pack has roamed and been involved with numerous livestock depredations.

Related Links:
Wolf Watch - By Cat Urbigkit


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Earthjustice prepares wolf case (posted 4/12/08)
Cat Urbigkit, Pinedale Online!
The environmental law firm, Earthjustice, has prominently placed wolf delisting on its website, with articles ranging from "Wolf recovery under attack" to "Wolf Wars: Famous Wolf Among First Casualties."

Earthjustice is preparing a lawsuit challenging the delisting, and is representing Defenders of Wildlife, Natural Resources Defense Council, Sierra Club, Center for Biological Diversity, The Humane Society of the United States, Jackson Hole Conservation Alliance, and Friends of the Clearwater in the lawsuit.

To read Earthjustice's take on wolf delisting, and an article detailing the life of one of the wolves killed near Daniel, Wyoming, click on the link below.

Related Links:
Earthjustice website
Wolf Watch - By Cat Urbigkit

Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: POk3s on Apr 13, 2008, 04:02 PM
Yes we have ate wolf!   it tastes just like the rest of the enviro-bullsht!   
 Not only that I'm tired of my taxes going to the lawsuit-defense of you limpwristed, wolf lovin, bunny huggin, yogurt and bean sprout eatin morons

 Point being.......your taking the food off my table, to feed an invasive-species >:(

U DA MAN!

I figured there would be more than 13 wolves killed...but I guess it's only been half a month....I hope I get a chance at one.
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 13, 2008, 05:47 PM
Maybe I'm just a perennial optimist, but I just don't believe a judge is going to grant an injunction against shooting the dogs in the predatory area. It has absolutely nothing to do with the recovery program, just those people Dogg described so well, who want wolves to run around without management protocols. On another note, I had a lengthy conversation with my backyard G&F biologist neighbor about the gray as opposed to timber wolf and he said essentially that a wolf is a wolf and you wouldn't believe the amount of sub-species, etc. I have a lot of respect for this guy and since I'm not really sure, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.  ;D
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: MrMarty51 on Apr 13, 2008, 06:44 PM
Do Ya got to purchase a license or is it kinda like see em shoot em?
Are out of staters welcome to come in and join in on the hunt?
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 13, 2008, 07:21 PM
Do Ya got to purchase a license or is it kinda like see em shoot em?
Are out of staters welcome to come in and join in on the hunt?
Right now, we're allowed to shoot em on sight, I'm uncertain about non-residents, but if you want to be sure, try this number at the Cheyenne G&F office, 307-777-4600, LT out ;D
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: Backwater_ on Apr 13, 2008, 08:06 PM
Wow.......nothing like reading 3 pages of pure ignorance before bed.   :sick:  And you guys wonder why organizations like PETA want to take our guns away.  Way to go fellas! :sleep1:
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: doggbiter on Apr 13, 2008, 08:49 PM
BackDoor Guide,    the definition of ignorance= not knowing

 You are the second ignorant post on this thread ::)

 Let me guess california.....or is it denver  hmmmm?   I'm guessing sanfransisco ;D
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 13, 2008, 08:58 PM
What a cheap, hit-and-run, miasmic shot by someone who doesn't have to deal with this situation.  ??? Whatever has happened to meaningful dialogue, Dogg? I'd say BDG probably resides in...Maine...or New York State.                 
                                                                                               LT
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: BUCK1 on Apr 13, 2008, 09:21 PM
Hows it any different than shooting coyotes? Do we want to protect coyotes too? Hell No!
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: jrelaxin on Apr 13, 2008, 09:42 PM
What a cheap, hit-and-run, miasmic shot by someone who doesn't have to deal with this situation.  ??? Whatever has happened to meaningful dialogue, Dogg? I'd say BDG probably resides in...Maine...or New York State.                 
                                                                                               LT
good flatlander knows better than that.............  8)
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: grayghost on Apr 13, 2008, 10:02 PM
DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT KILLING ANY WOLVES IN MAINE. ROBERT ROTHHE SPECIAL AGENT FOR THE INTERIOR OF IF&W SAID THAT THERE AREN'T ANY IN MAINE WHEN I ASKED HIM ABOUT WHAT I HAD SEEN WHEN I WAS DEALING WITH A TRAPPED LYNX WHICH IS A WHOLE OTHER STORY.
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: troutaddict33 on Apr 13, 2008, 10:16 PM
yeah there's "none in NY either". I was told if it is proven true and accepted, they'd have to find a way to fund program to save them since they are/were endagered. Idk about now though since they aren't.
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: MrMarty51 on Apr 13, 2008, 10:19 PM
About 30 years ago and a long time before there were any wolves planted in Montana,out plowing snow in Eastern Montana at the powder River Bridge on Highway 12 east,hit a big dog with the plow and told My supervisor that I had hit what looked like a Wolf.Told Me I was a halucinating from putting in to many hours.About a week later when the snow was melting here right where I said appears a wolf from out of the snow bank.Loaded the thing up and hauled it home and waited for the fur buyer to show up in town and showed it to Him,He closed the trunk of the car and told Me that He had never seen it and that I should take it somewhere`s and dispose of it and for sure to not tell anyone from fish and game about it.
I learned to never say that there were`nt any Wolves in Montana.
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 13, 2008, 10:26 PM
 :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :clapping: Well, that made my day, thanks.  LT  ;D
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: troutchaser on Apr 13, 2008, 10:29 PM
  LT    WHAT DO YOU GUYS MOSTLY FISH FOR IN WYOMING  ?      I PREFER ICE FISHING AND TROUT FISHING
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 13, 2008, 10:32 PM
Ice fishing I pretty much chase wallyes and perch, open water, I'm after the macs in the 8-10 pound range, anything smaller or larger goes back. Backpacking in the WR range, Honey and I take a few small trout for at least one dinner. You?
                                                                                         LT  ;D
(I already miss my  :tipup: :tipup: :tipup: though!)
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: troutchaser on Apr 13, 2008, 10:40 PM
Ice fishing I pretty much chase wallyes and perch, open water, I'm after the macs in the 8-10 pound range, anything smaller or larger goes back. Backpacking in the WR range, Honey and I take a few small trout for at least one dinner. You?
                                                                                         LT  ;D
(I already miss my  :tipup: :tipup: :tipup: though!)
             
YEAH ICE FISHING IS MY GIG ALSO LKE TROUT  AND SALMON   I EAT ABOUT 3 OR 4 A YEAR AND MOSTLY RELEASE OTHERS      HAVE SOME BEERS  A FIRE ON THE ICE   NOTHIN LIKE IT       BESS AROUND HERE RANGE 2   TO 8  POUNDS NORMALLY       TAKE CARE LT
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 13, 2008, 11:11 PM
Roger that brother, you too, laters, LT out.  ;D
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: HIMO on Apr 16, 2008, 03:43 PM
hey LT. Iwill look into your request.

                                           HIMO

                                     MFF Moderator
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 16, 2008, 03:59 PM
hey LT. Iwill look into your request.

                                           HIMO

                                     MFF Moderator
Thanks, LT out  ;) :whistling: :police:
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: Fishinwyo on Apr 16, 2008, 04:25 PM
Wow.......nothing like reading 3 pages of pure ignorance before bed.   :sick:  And you guys wonder why organizations like PETA want to take our guns away.  Way to go fellas! :sleep1:

Then you should have stopped reading after the first page and went back to the MAINE forum!
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: Wyoming Ice on Apr 16, 2008, 06:12 PM
Wow.......nothing like reading 3 pages of pure ignorance before bed.   :sick:  And you guys wonder why organizations like PETA want to take our guns away.  Way to go fellas! :sleep1:

 I remember about 20 years ago reading an article in Outdoorlife or Bowhunter Magazine about the coyote problems in Maine. They were killing all of the fawn deer. It was a real serious problem. I felt sorry for the deer and the hunters in Maine. I remember thinking just how good we had had it out here in Wyoming. Well then they forced the wolves on us and protected them. Then we were in the same boat as the guys in Maine...The only difference is you guys could do something about it. They are, as I have said before, just a predator.
 On a parting shot, I wonder how you would feel if coyotes were suddenly protected. You had to sit by and watch your deer herds either move or be wiped out. It does suck.
 And sorry that you stayed up to read about our real problem out here in the West... :tipup:

 Wyoming Ice
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: MrMarty51 on Apr 16, 2008, 06:48 PM
I remember about 20 years ago reading an article in Outdoorlife or Bowhunter Magazine about the coyote problems in Maine. They were killing all of the fawn deer. It was a real serious problem. I felt sorry for the deer and the hunters in Maine. I remember thinking just how good we had had it out here in Wyoming. Well then they forced the wolves on us and protected them. Then we were in the same boat as the guys in Maine...The only difference is you guys could do something about it. They are, as I have said before, just a predator.
 On a parting shot, I wonder how you would feel if coyotes were suddenly protected. You had to sit by and watch your deer herds either move or be wiped out. It does suck.
 And sorry that you stayed up to read about our real problem out here in the West... :tipup:

 Wyoming Ice
Most people that have never lived in these parts do`nt have a clue but let them get their coyotes protected then see what kind of a change in their language they will come up with. ???
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: troutaddict33 on Apr 16, 2008, 08:07 PM
im not taking either side this post (and am not a truly strong believer of either side but can understand both viewpoints even though i don't live in WY) but someone should put up actual estimates from a reliable source of numbers of coyotes in ME where you guys are talking about and numbers of wolves in WY so there's an actual comparison number wise... ill be looking now but anyone that comes across this maybe put it up...  :)
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 16, 2008, 08:36 PM
Nice point Troutaddict33, but wolf-coyote numbers won't mean much to this thread about wolves when you consider the vast size difference and prey base of each critter. Coyotes are generally unable to take a healthy elk, although I've seen where a small pack has caught a deer on slick ice and was able to bring it down.   :sick: Had wolf de-listing occurred when it should have some considerable time back, we wouldn't have had the huge proliferation into what is known as the predatory area...but it didn't, now we have this problem  :)
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: doggbiter on Apr 16, 2008, 08:44 PM
 What would that prove?    Troutadik33  ?????

 IT would prove that coyotes eat every last bite of the critters they kill......duh

 Wolves kill for fun and games......whatever......hamstring healthy critters till they can't walk, then walk away before they die
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 16, 2008, 08:59 PM
     I just remembered something about that very thing, on a winter elk feedground over on the west side of the State, a wolf pack went in couple of years ago and killed about 40 head of elk...left em to rot, ate very little. G&F stacked all of them in a pile. That's a fact, cause it was documented in the Pinedale Newspaper. Hmmmmmm? Tell me I'm not the only one who recalls that? Yeah, that happenend and not just that once, couple more instances wirth less kills.  ??? ;D
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: troutaddict33 on Apr 16, 2008, 09:04 PM
Nice point Troutaddict33, but wolf-coyote numbers won't mean much to this thread about wolves when you consider the vast size difference and prey base of each critter. Coyotes are generally unable to take a healthy elk, although I've seen where a small pack has caught a deer on slick ice and was able to bring it down.   :sick: Had wolf de-listing occurred when it should have some considerable time back, we wouldn't have had the huge proliferation into what is known as the predatory area...but it didn't, now we have this problem  :)

I understand that i just figured since people continuously on both of these threads compare wolves to coyotes without any mention of the size difference/verocity of the two numbers would matter. But now that you compare these factors forget about that... maybe don't compare them to coyotes then??? And looking at numbers wouldn't show that coyotes eat more of an animal than wolves lol they're poop shows that
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 16, 2008, 09:13 PM
Well, since I got the pie in the face you intended for Dogg,    :blink: :w00t:   I'll just say hmmmm...I don't recall comparing anything to anything or saying that coyotes consumed all their prey (although my guess is that they do), but that just what I've seen. They actually do eat a whole mouse or rabbit or whatever, which unless i''m mistaken is their prey base.  ;D
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: troutaddict33 on Apr 16, 2008, 09:19 PM
the first part was just a response to yours. didn't say you were comparing them but countless people on here have. I was serious about the poop thing though with coyotes. you'll see the hair/bones and everything in it. they eat a lot more than mice and little creatures though like fawns and such. and yes the second part was to dogg because it was like relating clocks to peanut butter and absolutely made no sense...
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 16, 2008, 09:30 PM
Yep, gotcha, we deal with the same identical things with 'yotes and every fall there's at least 3 moose of one variety or another killed right outside of Boulder near the airport just in that one spot and the gas fields have had a very devastating effect on the deer herd because that's their winter habitat. There's also been so many deer mortalities on  hwy 191 through Pinedale that the state has installed amber blinking lights attached to an early warning deer radar (no, really). Still goes back to one thing what I just said has always been that way....up until the wolves were allowed to run unchecked (and that's not the fault of the WY G&F). Big game numbers stayed up until then. They they plummeted. Point is, predators have to be in balance with prey. We have an opportunity to restore that balance and we're pretty determined to do it without eliminating every last wolf in the predatory area and without the wolves destroying our elk/deer/moose herds. There's already enough impact on them from the sources I just mentioned.   
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: troutaddict33 on Apr 16, 2008, 09:38 PM
We have an opportunity to restore that balance and we're pretty determined to do it without eliminating every last wolf in the predatory area and without the wolves destroying our elk/deer/moose herds.

Amen, i think that's all the people you guys have called "greeny tree humpers" and "granola bar eating homos" which i got in one PM were trying to say (Not you LT- no name calling from you *EDIT- i take that back). that you guys do what u need to to keep populations of other species alive and healthy and just that the "kill all" attitude is a bit overboard though the wolves do need to be controlled. people that live our way obviously do not live your lives and cannot fully understand it but that "balance" is simply what many were trying to get at.
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: doggbiter on Apr 16, 2008, 09:46 PM
 NO one on here has a "kill-all" attitude, that I know of.........well except the wolves, seems to be in there handbook 8)
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 16, 2008, 09:52 PM
     Troutaddict, I think that's what most of us want is just things back the way they were before they were out of balance. I recall when the re-introduced wolf packs roamed the three state area surrounding Yellowstone and a few griz had trickled down into the Green River Basin. Back then I encountered a herd of 50 elk bedded down in a meadow up on Big Flattop Mt...no more. Griz have populated areas as far east as Dubois and as far south as Big Sandy. Wolves are pretty much everywhere. Big herds of elk are not...at least in those areas. They're here, they're out of balance with their prey base or maybe they just need an attitude adjustment, whatever, but what we're doing is in writing in the plan accepted by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife.
     A lot of us, myself included have said, "If they had just nevr brought wolves here..." If, if, if. There's an old proverb about "If." and that's this, just to bow out of here and let someone else write, "If... frogs had pockets, they'd carry guns to shoot snakes." I'm outta here brudders, laters, LT   :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: troutaddict33 on Apr 16, 2008, 09:56 PM
NO one on here has a "kill-all" attitude, that I know of.........well except the wolves, seems to be in there handbook 8)

not just trying to prove you wrong but comments like this one might what got things going and ticked people off to start saying you guys are wrong for doing what you are... i saw a couple others but am not gonna be a dink and fill a page with bull to prove my point
 
"Only a complete moron would possibly appeal for such a ridiculous sticker.  you must hump trees for a living and obviously don't work for s living.  How about save a rancher kill any and all wolves.  How about stop wasting tax dollars by providing wolves we can shoot.  You are nothing but the same inbred greeny tree humper that has invaded the fine state of montana.  do us all a favor and leave this site.  i thought you had to have some kind of merit to be here.  How about this appeal....  Treehugger the other wolf meat."
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 16, 2008, 10:00 PM
Whoops, the LT has NEVER called another member of this forum a name, the LT may have referred to those filing suit against the killing of predatory wolves as "granola eating tree huggers" but the LT does not and will never call another forum member a name...never...  ;D 
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: troutaddict33 on Apr 16, 2008, 10:05 PM
whoops... i mistook calling someone a granola eating tree hugger as calling them a name... haha i don't care i like granola bars for their taste, nutrition, and portability when packing food for the outdoors. im sure you've eaten them too   :laugh:
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: doggbiter on Apr 16, 2008, 10:11 PM
not just trying to prove you wrong but comments like this one might what got things going and ticked people off to start saying you guys are wrong for doing what you are... i saw a couple others but am not gonna be a dink and fill a page with bull to prove my point
 
"Only a complete moron would possibly appeal for such a ridiculous sticker.  you must hump trees for a living and obviously don't work for s living.  How about save a rancher kill any and all wolves.  How about stop wasting tax dollars by providing wolves we can shoot.  You are nothing but the same inbred greeny tree humper that has invaded the fine state of montana.  do us all a favor and leave this site.  i thought you had to have some kind of merit to be here.  How about this appeal....  Treehugger the other wolf meat."


 WHY IS MY QUOTE AT TOP AND LABELED?  Then your say, then another quote that isn't mine, and it isn't labeled by who wrote it
  just something your tryin to stick on me?
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 16, 2008, 10:12 PM
whoops... i mistook calling someone a granola eating tree hugger as calling them a name... haha i don't care i like granola bars for their taste, nutrition, and portability when packing food for the outdoors. im sure you've eaten them too   :laugh:
never called a "member of this site"  a name...I doubt any of the plaintiffs on the wolf plan suit are.  ::)
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: troutaddict33 on Apr 16, 2008, 10:15 PM

 WHY IS MY QUOTE AT TOP AND LABELED?  Then your say, then another quote that isn't mine, and it isn't labeled by who wrote it
  just something your tryin to stick on me?

nope... i didn't know how to use multiple quotes from different people so i copied and pasted it with " " around it. wasn't yours
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 16, 2008, 10:24 PM
whoops... i mistook calling someone a granola eating tree hugger as calling them a name... haha i don't care i like granola bars for their taste, nutrition, and portability when packing food for the outdoors. im sure you've eaten them too   :laugh:
Yep...two in the pack for every day hike.  :) and Hi-Tek hiking boots and a Colt 1911 sidearm and a collapsable spincast rod, a Rem mod 700, a sharp eye and a bear spray canister. Ever spent a night with a grizzly sniffing, snorting, growling and pawing around your tent from 11 pm to 4"30 am? I have and I didn't like it, but we both walked away from it. Why you think that was? Hmmmmmm?  ;D I'm weary of wolf chatter, I'm gonna change the subject. Ever seen a griz brother Troutaddict? We saw one in Dubois year before last, sucker was dark, looked like a Cadillac with feet...about a 1000 pound bear. Wow, what a rush! 200 yards out and looking right at us.  ;D :w00t: :thumbup_smilie: :police:
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: troutaddict33 on Apr 16, 2008, 10:28 PM
nah only a black bear... they hoot at night like an owl which is weird. my girlfriend was not a fan of that at all but she was a good sport and knew the next day would be full of great fishing... well men, good points made here tonight. talk to you soon and keep catching those beauty rainbows LT. i saw those pics of the 22 incher. i was jealous...
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: wyohunter on Apr 16, 2008, 11:09 PM
 In 2001 ,  149 moose licenses were issued in the areas abutting Yellowstone park, in 2007 there were only 20 most of them in area 37. In 2001 there were 1396 moose licenses issued in all areas, in 2007  there were 811 licenses issued. With about 50% of the moose areas within the area the wolves call home it is not hard to figure out what is happening. The G&F have not released any figures that I could find but I have been told that in some of the areas the moose calf mortality is over 90% due almost exclusively to the wolf.

My two cents worth, I would rather see a dead wolf and a live Moose calf.
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: Wyoming Ice on Apr 17, 2008, 10:15 AM
In 2001 ,  149 moose licenses were issued in the areas abutting Yellowstone park, in 2007 there were only 20 most of them in area 37. In 2001 there were 1396 moose licenses issued in all areas, in 2007  there were 811 licenses issued. With about 50% of the moose areas within the area the wolves call home it is not hard to figure out what is happening. The G&F have not released any figures that I could find but I have been told that in some of the areas the moose calf mortality is over 90% due almost exclusively to the wolf.

My two cents worth, I would rather see a dead wolf and a live Moose calf.

 Very, Very, Very well said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 They are cutting the numbers in area 36 (Kemmerer/ La Barge) According to one of the local Biologists.  :tipup:

 
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: troutchaser on Apr 18, 2008, 11:17 AM
In 2001 ,  149 moose licenses were issued in the areas abutting Yellowstone park, in 2007 there were only 20 most of them in area 37. In 2001 there were 1396 moose licenses issued in all areas, in 2007  there were 811 licenses issued. With about 50% of the moose areas within the area the wolves call home it is not hard to figure out what is happening. The G&F have not released any figures that I could find but I have been told that in some of the areas the moose calf mortality is over 90% due almost exclusively to the wolf.

My two cents worth, I would rather see a dead wolf and a live Moose calf.
   WHY SO YOU CAN SHOOT THE MOOSE CALF LATER !!!!    DOES THAT MAKE ALOT OF SENSE    THATS JUST YOUR SELFISH WANTS.
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: wyohunter on Apr 18, 2008, 11:35 AM
I have had the last moose license I will probley ever get so NO I wont be shooting it later. But not to worry as the wolves eat them selves out of moose and elk calves they will either starve or move out to an area they are not protected and be taken care of.  Now after reading your responces to others and my self I THINK YOU CAN TAKE YOUR OPINION AND SPELLING AND SHOVE IT IN A BAIT BUCKET!
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 18, 2008, 12:49 PM
   WHY SO YOU CAN SHOOT THE MOOSE CALF LATER !!!!    DOES THAT MAKE ALOT OF SENSE    THATS JUST YOUR SELFISH WANTS.
Okay, I only ask this out of curiosity, Troutchaser, do you hunt ?  :) LT
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: troutchaser on Apr 18, 2008, 01:00 PM
  PHEASENTS  WITH MY DOG   
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 18, 2008, 01:02 PM
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah...sweet, there's nothing quite like it ...following a motivated bird-dog. What breed?
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: troutchaser on Apr 18, 2008, 01:20 PM
german short hair  LT   VERY FUN   AWESOME POIN TER
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 18, 2008, 01:26 PM
I live for the short pheasant hunt we have over on Ocean Lake, many restrictions, but about my favorite bird to eat for table fare. Never thought I'd see the day come when I thought I could give up big-game hunting (not gonna happen) for birds...ducks, geese, pheasants, but being forced to choose, I'd take the birds/rabbits. I do love my elk/deer/moose too though...just something satisfying about having the skill to bring down a fast flying bird and that's the only time I hunt with my buddy. Truly a loner in the elk/deer woods. laters, live long, prosper, be safe, laters, Theeeeeeeeeee LT 
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 18, 2008, 01:43 PM
     Okay, here's one for you....can we actually get wolves under control and re-establish a balance? I mean, we're going to kill a few here and there, but can we maintain them pretty much in the NW part of the state? A glance at the Location of Lander on the WY map will tell non-residents how far down they've come and no matter what anybody says, they're already down here in signifigant numbers. And if we succeed at that, what's the future for an already-impacted elk/moose population say...in Jackson Hole and the National Wildlife Refuge? I say we can and will and under USFW guidlelines. Whaddaya think?   
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: troutchaser on Apr 18, 2008, 01:48 PM
     Okay, here's one for you...anybody...can we actually get them under control and re-establish a balance? I mean, we're going to kill a few here and there, but can we maintain them pretty much in the NW part of the state? A glance at the Location of Lander on the WY map will tell non-residents how far down they've come and no matter what anybody says, they're already down here in signifigant numbers. And if we succeed at that, what's the future for an already-impacted elk/moose population say...in Jackson Hole and the National Wildlife Refuge? I say we can and will and under USFW guidlelines. Whaddaya think?   
   i  think it could possibly work   with the help  of authorities  and honest sportsman
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: BottomDweller on Apr 18, 2008, 01:51 PM
i, for one, have faith.
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 18, 2008, 03:51 PM
"...as long as it's a slow leak, I'm not worried."  :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: Haaaaa  ;D Way to go BD.
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 18, 2008, 04:10 PM
i, for one, have faith.
Me too BD, me too. It's going to balance out.  :)
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: Fishinwyo on Apr 18, 2008, 04:40 PM
Me too BD, me too. It's going to balance out.  :)

Everything always works out they way it is supposed to. So i would believe that is will all balance out as well.
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: POk3s on Apr 18, 2008, 05:20 PM
Wow....need to take a nap after that read. 3 pages of stuff written in like 2 days! WOO!

Bottom line, if you lived here, you'd know what our problem is.

Since you don't live here, you can't know, and you will either try to understand or be stuck up about it because you think your way is right.

AND

If you live here then you want to shoot a couple, or more if given the chance.
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 18, 2008, 05:31 PM
True, true. This is a good point to interject this observation. Just a few years ago...6 years to be exact, last day of elk season (cows only) I located a herd of 50-plus up on Big Flattop, fabulously rugged country and heck of a pack out, but I just really like it. I watched them from the thicket for 30 minutes from 15 yards away. The 6X6 herd bull was just magnificent, laying there in the snow ith his back to me. Spikes, cows, calves were everywhere, some just dozing in the patchy snow and grass, some browsing, mews, cow-calls, their elk-fragrance....cause to an elk hunter, it's a fragrance, not an odor. At some point around noon, I knew it was time to choose a dry cow. I did the deed and she plowed up 5 yards of snow with her face, neck and shoulders and drew her last breath. The herd scattered in 4 different directions and I walked over to her and reverently thanked her and did what else I had to do to get her out before nightfall. And I said all that to say this....Do you think we can ever get back to that place in time? Can we, under the guidelines set forth by USFW actually pull this off and have the herds re-populate the Pinedale area in those numbers again? Lord, I hope so!  :-\
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: MrMarty51 on Apr 18, 2008, 05:45 PM
I pray Your herds of Elk and Moose multiply beyond belief. :)
Not so many years ago there were very few Coyotes in this area.When people saw them and if they had a rifle,etc. handy they would shoot them.In the late 70s it was like a Coyote population explosion.A lot of people were trapping,calling,and just outright shooting them on site.
With that said and the hunting pressure is still on them,they seems to be getting more and more of em.
Dont know if it will work with the wolves or not but I`d figure fore everyone You see there`s several more in the brush lookin out at Ya.If You do`nt get their numbers knocked down fast then they will be as plentiful as the Yotes.
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: POk3s on Apr 18, 2008, 06:21 PM
"SOUNDS TO ME YOU ARE     IM DONE WITH WYOMING  BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU   TALKING ABOUT  HUNTING FISHING THAT IS.    HAVE FUN DWELLER KILLING THE WOLVES    AND I AM GOING TROUT FISHING AS WE END THIS   have a good life    stay in wyoming please"

and please stay out.

Seriously this is enough.

There have been a total of 13 wolves killed. THIRTEEN. You're right....we're all about just going out and killing things ruthlessly. wow
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 18, 2008, 06:52 PM
How's this for a thought, 'cause the two opposing sides here will never agree...in the near future, a critter which has been native to Wyoming for eons, of necessity might find itself on the endangered species list...moose. The herd numbers, as well as the diminishing tags tell all. Now why do you think that's the case? It's certainly not the anticline because that's not their winter range. They're slow, with gangly, slow offspring, easy prey and I'm talking grizzly as well as wolf kills.  ??? Wouldn't that be a hoot!? Sheesh. 
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 18, 2008, 07:00 PM
"SOUNDS TO ME YOU ARE     IM DONE WITH WYOMING  BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU   TALKING ABOUT  HUNTING FISHING THAT IS.    HAVE FUN DWELLER KILLING THE WOLVES    AND I AM GOING TROUT FISHING AS WE END THIS   have a good life    stay in wyoming please"

and please stay out.

Seriously this is enough.

There have been a total of 13 wolves killed. THIRTEEN. You're right....we're all about just going out and killing things ruthlessly. wow
Hey Poks3 whatever happened to Code4? haven't heard from him on the site for awhile. If ya see him, say hi for the gang. LT ;D
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: POk3s on Apr 18, 2008, 07:32 PM
I have no idea where he's been. Hopefully the unthinkable didn't happen! DUN DUN DUN
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 18, 2008, 07:40 PM
Roger that, BTW guys, the new issue of the Bugle is out, couple of great reads, but an article on the wolf recovery with very strong quotes from Lynn Scarlett, Deputy Secretary of the Interior as well as Ed Bangs, Wolf Recovery Coordinator for the USFW. In short, Bangs said, "The program did its job...time to move on." Great issue of the Bugle, especially the excellent Situation Ethics article written by a retired Customs Enforcement Agent. He found a black bear with a broken back...no bear tag...what to do?  ??? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
                                                                                         LT out ;D
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: POk3s on Apr 18, 2008, 07:54 PM
Forgot I saw him today actually. Probably hasn't been out open water fishing yet, and he doesn't live on the computer like us. He'll be back.
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 18, 2008, 08:09 PM
Glad to hear that.  ;D
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 18, 2008, 09:19 PM
Hey guys, that Bear Encounter thread I posted here, I realized it was on the wrong site so I moved it to Myhunting forum, sorry, laters, THeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeee LT  :police: :flag: :whistling:
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: troutchaser on Apr 18, 2008, 09:20 PM
EVER GOT ANY BEARS LT?
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 18, 2008, 09:27 PM
One black bear....he sorta wandered into a bad neighborhood...aaaah...the one where my tent was set up on, of all things, A BEAR HUNT. He tore up the food bags, so we tagged him, my buddy wanted the hide, we split the meat. That was enough for me, I'm strictly defensive posture with them now, too much $$$$$$$ to process a hide and the meat ranks...6th on my preference scale.  8)
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: doggbiter on Apr 18, 2008, 09:33 PM
EVER GOT ANY BEARS LT?

 I got one bear so far, wanted to mount it, but it was to small for me

 I have mounted a very large carp, then when I was done.....I threw it on the bank for the coons
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 18, 2008, 09:47 PM
      :bowdown: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: Oh Lord, I miss my  :tipup: !  ;D
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: troutchaser on Apr 18, 2008, 10:22 PM
I got one bear so far, wanted to mount it, but it was to small for me

 I have mounted a very large carp, then when I was done.....I threw it on the bank for the coons
   my buddy mounted a carp  he mounts any fish over like 3 or 4 pounds kind of funny but they look good all together   i have 1    5 pound rainbow   thru the ice
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: DeepFried on Apr 18, 2008, 10:32 PM
Man, I been gone for awhile and was I amazed when I logged on.  All I got to say is "If a fellow sportsman is doing something legal and just to him or her let them be".  Standing together is the only way to stop the anti's. And who knows, just maybe there's an ANTI on here to stir us sportsmans up.  Just like guys who perfer a fly instead of a guy who perfers a worm (me) have to agree and get along.  They want to divide us and that's how they'll put an end to all fishing and hunting. 

We'll these dudes "Fellow American Hunter's " had a successful day!  They just saved 60 Elk for the next year!  Castaway Man

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b326/Bullhead1/wolves.jpg)
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 18, 2008, 10:59 PM
Dang man, that's some huge DAWGS! Sublette Cty?  ;D
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: DeepFried on Apr 18, 2008, 11:44 PM
It was titled Pinedale Area?  Someday I would like a have a rug from one of those! Castaway Man
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: er-e-is on Apr 19, 2008, 09:20 AM
When I started this thread and the "Boycott Wyoming", which has been locked, I had no idea how out of control they were going to get. We all need to step back and rethink our comments. I apologize if I said anything that offended anyone. That was not my intentions. The truth is, the wolf population is getting out of control. It is affecting the game populations and the ranchers lives. Trust me, I do not want the wolves killed off to extinction, I don't think any of us do. I have seen them in Yellowstone and have seen them whild hunting here in Sublette Co. It is exciting, believe me. They are a magnificent animal and a very formidable predator.
The fact that a few people have chosed to display their trophy's, well thats up to them. I would love to harvest one now that it is totaly legal! My choice.

It was the USFWS that did the study's and decided it was time to delist the wolves, it was the Wyoming Government that, rightfully so, set the boundrys and regulations on how to control the rising wolf population. It was the USFWS that approved said plan. The delisting and management plan has been going on for years. I commend Gov. Freudenthal for not backing down on the management plan.
A few points that some people are missing is that the USFWS killed 60 wolves in Wyoming last year in their efforts to control the wolf problem.

http://www.pinedaleonline.com/news/2008/01/Confirmedwolfpredati.htm (http://www.pinedaleonline.com/news/2008/01/Confirmedwolfpredati.htm)

Another thing for people to realize is that from 1995 thru 2005 the USFWS killed 396 wolves in control actions in the northern rockies.

http://www.pinedaleonline.com/wolf/wolfcontrol.htm (http://www.pinedaleonline.com/wolf/wolfcontrol.htm)

From 2006 - 2007 the Wyoming wolf population increased from 311 to 359 a 15% increase.

http://www.pinedaleonline.com/wolf/pdf/WY-YNP2007AnnualFinalReport3-8-08.pdf (http://www.pinedaleonline.com/wolf/pdf/WY-YNP2007AnnualFinalReport3-8-08.pdf)

The bottom line is that, most people that come here are sportsman that love the outdoors and to hunt and fish. I moved to Wyoming 27 yrs. ago for just that reason. The arguing, name calling, finger pointing, etc. is just what the anti's want. Trust me they are watching us here. We have to stand together or divided we will fall. God Bless.

PS. Coming Soon "Grizzly Bear De-Listing"  ;D
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: MrMarty51 on Apr 19, 2008, 09:33 AM
these two people look as stupid as 2 iraqi's holding 2 american soldiers and no wonder they hate America. next im sure you will be dragging them down the street. As a sportsman dont include me in your way of thinking. you give us all a bad names and an exscuse to be attacked by those so called anti's
Well then maby Saugeur,You should quit fishing and taking pics. of the fish You catch to display for everyone to see. ???
I think the pics displayed of the wolves that were taken in a "LEGAL" hunt were very appropiatelly displayed,No different than You displaying pics of fish that You have caught and proudly displayed for the world to see.
I would be VERY happy to "kill" and display a wolf of that size and Yes get a rug or some moccasins made of the hide.
I also think that Your statement about the Iraquis and the American soldiers was VERY INAPPROPIATE.... but thats just My 02 worth. :cursing:
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: troutchaser on Apr 19, 2008, 09:46 AM
Man, I been gone for awhile and was I amazed when I logged on.  All I got to say is "If a fellow sportsman is doing something legal and just to him or her let them be".  Standing together is the only way to stop the anti's. And who knows, just maybe there's an ANTI on here to stir us sportsmans up.  Just like guys who perfer a fly instead of a guy who perfers a worm (me) have to agree and get along.  They want to divide us and that's how they'll put an end to all fishing and hunting. 

We'll these dudes "Fellow American Hunter's " had a successful day!  They just saved 60 Elk for the next year!  Castaway Man

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b326/Bullhead1/wolves.jpg)

     maybe this should be put on the hunting site ay
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 19, 2008, 09:50 AM
I, the proud Father of a career Marine Corps Gunny also agree...very inappropraite comparison...my soldier-son = a wolf?? No, I don't think so, for the life of me I don't understand why you and several others of your ilk can't find more appropraite words to express yourselves, i.e. "I found the pics of the hunters and wolves in poor taste."  :nono: :police:
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: LT on Apr 19, 2008, 09:58 AM
     maybe this should be put on the hunting site ay
When it bleeds into a political issue maybe it should just be locked and forgotten  ??? i.e. "No wonder the Iraqi's hate us." C'mon. Thread locked or not, I'm outta here, thanks er-e-is for starting the thread and for your insightful, intelligent and accurate comments of today, some apologies are certainly in order, but not by you, see you on MFF and MHF brother, Don  8)
Title: Re: 5 wolves killed
Post by: HIMO on Apr 19, 2008, 11:30 AM
the comment about our boy's in uniform was the last straw. this thread is locked and any further comments like that will be sent to the Moderators site for a decision by the administrator as to a permanent ban from the site. case closed have a good day.

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