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MFF US Northeast => Massachusetts => Topic started by: trophyhntr on Jul 28, 2017, 08:25 PM
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I just recently fished the canal for the first time ever. I had a very sub par rod and reel. wondering if any of you would like to share thoughts on an appropriate rod/reel setup. would be looking to keep it under $500.
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If it was me I would get a ulgy stick tiger lite spinning rod.. pair that with a shimano or penn reel... I like penn pursuit 2 reels made by penn and the fierce 2 reels also made by penn..as for shimano's for shimano a 5000 or 6000 reel size... in like a sahra or solstice etc.. might be able to get away with a 4000 reel depending on line size you prefer.. I prefer super braids like power pro and suffix 832.. but it's all preference.. I think the ulgy sticj sells for around $69.99 and reels range from $40on up to $300... I like rods about 7 foot long with line weight in the 40 pound max range... those ulgy sticks maybe too soft in action for throwing long distance.. that's were loomis or even st Croix comes in.. the higher tech graphite rods.. I would look around okuma makes some good rods same shimano.. I think my shimano are better then most st Croix rods I have had.. so for sure look around and give the rods a wiggle.. by the way shimano rods some carry a life time warranty.. if fishing live bait consider a surf rod cause it can heave baits a mile.. but can you work them as well as a shorter rod?? That's why I say 7 footer..but it really is up to you and what you like not what others say if you catch fish who's to say your wrong see my point?? Most surf rods are used to plunk not work baits in the 8 foot plus the shorter rods and be used to baits but you loose distance on the throw of the bait with a shorter rod and you tend to thow harder wich flings the bait off and become earitating.. but since I don't fish canals and limit knowledge on them.. the person on here would be lowaccord.. he fishes canals and would probbly be better on info I am assumingyour striped bass fishing in canals I think he is around sone ware.. what I suggest was a general pourpose set up if looking to spend some money talk to him.. the one I mentioned will get you by.. but there most likely is better out there that he would know about...
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I just recently fished the canal for the first time ever. I had a very sub par rod and reel. wondering if any of you would like to share thoughts on an appropriate rod/reel setup. would be looking to keep it under $500.
It will depend on what you want to do with it. Do you want to toss jigs, or plugs? I know many guys who carry two rods, one for jigs, the other for plugs.
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You'll be undergunned with a 7' rod. Most canal sharpies utilize 10-11' rods.
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I always felt bad seeing guys show up with gear that is too light. The canal has a ton of current boondox so an ugly stick won't cut it. The decision the OP has is Jig or plug? If I had 500 Id probably do. St Croix Triumph surfrod and a shimano saragosa. 8000 or 10000 size would do it. I think you can get a 2-6oz triumoh that would cover most jigging and some plugging as well. I rock 3 rods for the canal. 10' 1-4 oz Rainshadow for eels, 11' odm jigster 4-10 oz is my new jig stick which replaced a 6-12oz rainshadow custom which I used primarily for 9" tsunami shads.
Im down here now...slow fishing last night...2 bass both shorts and one 20#er this am.
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Ya I got skunked last night down here. Saw one short at night n a 20# that was caught w some daylight left.
I rock a Penn Battle 2 and a Tsunami rod. It is kind of the bargain bin route but if you don't want to go all out and drop $500 it is a decent combo that will let you throw a variety of baits to see if the canal is something you enjoy.
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. St Croix Triumph surfrod and a shimano saragosa. 8000 or 10000 size would do it. I think you can get a 2-6oz triumoh that would cover most jigging and some plugging as well. I rock 3 rods for the canal.
Jon, u see any of the new Spheros SW reels down there? They seems well made. I use the 6k (whis is a 5k body with a bigger spool) for jigging cod/hoaddock without any issues.
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Yes Will guys use those too and I am sure they have no issues.. Pat it wasnt good. Some action on eels some action on top in the am. My buddy Tim rocks the same combo. He put the penn on my 1209 last night and got hurt a bit when fish he had hooked let go making him fail backwards!
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I always felt bad seeing guys show up with gear that is too light. The canal has a ton of current boondox so an ugly stick won't cut it.
Thats why I said talk to you.. also make sure the guys not fishing the canal form a yak.. cause a shorter rod 7 foot could be used there.. most shore fishermen use the longer rods cause they cast further.. like you know.. he did not say how he was fishing it..
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also make sure the guys not fishing the canal form a yak..
Lol, I wonder how long you could get away with that.
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Thats why I said talk to you.. also make sure the guys not fishing the canal form a yak.. cause a shorter rod 7 foot could be used there.. most shore fishermen use the longer rods cause they cast further.. like you know.. he did not say how he was fishing it..
If he's fishing th canal from a yak he's got a lot bigger problems than his rod n reel setup.
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If he's fishing th canal from a yak he's got a lot bigger problems than his rod n reel setup.
Why would that be??
Video of ma. canal striper fishing from a yak.
https://youtu.be/2AXrLbVmfDY (https://youtu.be/2AXrLbVmfDY)
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Why would that be??
Video of ma. canal striper fishing from a yak.
https://youtu.be/2AXrLbVmfDY (https://youtu.be/2AXrLbVmfDY)
Other than the current? Its illegal.....
"Personal watercraft, kayaks, canoes, wind
surfers or other non-motoized craft are not
permitted to operate within, or pass through
the Federally maintained limits of the Canal."
"Fishing, trolling, or lobstering by boat within
the land cut, or the confines of the approach
channels of the Canal, as defined by U.S.
Coast Guard buoys and beacons, is obstructing
navigation and is strictly prohibited."
Cape Cod Canal Laws (http://www.nae.usace.army.mil/Portals/74/docs/Recreation/CCC/Brochures/Recreational_Boating_Safety_Guide.pdf)
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In 10 years of fishing the place obsessively Ive never seen it. Now keep in mind the canal has 2 parts really. The land cut and then the area that stretches into buzzard bay. You can get away with fishing "the canal" past the land cut in a boat on the buzzards bay side.
Big one guys forget is you cant carry and conceal.
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There should be a law that if you shine your headlight on me or the shoreline I am fishing, I can beat you up. ;D
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Other than the current? Its illegal.....
"Personal watercraft, kayaks, canoes, wind
surfers or other non-motoized craft are not
permitted to operate within, or pass through
the Federally maintained limits of the Canal."
"Fishing, trolling, or lobstering by boat within
the land cut, or the confines of the approach
channels of the Canal, as defined by U.S.
Coast Guard buoys and beacons, is obstructing
navigation and is strictly prohibited."
Cape Cod Canal Laws (http://www.nae.usace.army.mil/Portals/74/docs/Recreation/CCC/Brochures/Recreational_Boating_Safety_Guide.pdf)
There's 6 video of guys fishing the canal on line maybe you guys should report them?? Iam sure the lcoal athority could get a hold of them for doing so..
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Other than the current? Its illegal.....
"Personal watercraft, kayaks, canoes, wind
surfers or other non-motoized craft are not
permitted to operate within, or pass through
the Federally maintained limits of the Canal."
"Fishing, trolling, or lobstering by boat within
the land cut, or the confines of the approach
channels of the Canal, as defined by U.S.
Coast Guard buoys and beacons, is obstructing
navigation and is strictly prohibited."
Cape Cod Canal Laws (http://www.nae.usace.army.mil/Portals/74/docs/Recreation/CCC/Brochures/Recreational_Boating_Safety_Guide.pdf)
Another question is a jet ski legal to operate in the canal? If so you could use it to get from a to b to c just like the bike and beach it .. but is beaching it illegal?? And fish from shore after beaching it legal to??
Some thing like this.
https://youtu.be/k99kOJ5P8lo (https://youtu.be/k99kOJ5P8lo)
To bad stopping is prohibited in the canal just read that
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In 10 years of fishing the place obsessively Ive never seen it. Now keep in mind the canal has 2 parts really. The land cut and then the area that stretches into buzzard bay. You can get away with fishing "the canal" past the land cut in a boat on the buzzards bay side.
Big one guys forget is you cant carry and conceal.
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There should be a law that if you shine your headlight on me or the shoreline I am fishing, I can beat you up. ;D
I knew you would figure out a way to troll the Canal but with a bike come on Jon. ;D ;D ;D
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There's 6 video of guys fishing the canal on line maybe you guys should report them?? Iam sure the lcoal athority could get a hold of them for doing so..
I mean.. Just cause people do it and dont get caught doesnt make it legal lol...
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Jon, that plug used to get that nice striper on the bike is one of my favorite for Bluefin Tuna! Have you ever seen any one use a planer board on the canal? I do think there is enough current to make it work! LOL!
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Ha I picked that plug from a buddys shop because of the weight. It flies. I never thought about a planner but man that would be funny to do with an eel! Boondox, good question. I have never seen one. There is very limited area to stop because it's all rip rap.
Headed out in a few for the night.
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Jigs and jigs and jigs and jigs.
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Do you think you will lose them all in one night? LOL!!!
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I guess it depends on how tired I am lol! Joking aside, I needed to re-glue a bunch and sharpen hooks. Boring but necessary work...
That is my typical bag though. More hurley tails because I cant get a hand on affordable ron-z tails anymore since they turned their back on striper guys and market them for tuna.
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What's the minimum ounce jig head your using out there?? The biggest jig head I carry is s one ounce.. right now.. caus I am inland.. thinking about buying a bigger lead mold .. if I do I will let you know.. so I can send you some would a shad head jig work for you in a one ounce?? Or do you need some thing bigger Like hot lips or a spire point from hilts molds?? If so what size?? We use the 1 ounce shad head for walleye around here detroit river and St clair river the current is fairely swift..
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Most days I am using 4-5 oz heads.
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thanks for the responses. I looked into reels online and have narrowed it down to one of the following most likely. penn battle 2 or spinfisher, shimano spheros or saragosa. ill have to check them out in store and decide pricewise, but as of right now sorta leaning towards the spinfisher possibly with baitrunner.
when you guys fish eels how do you do so?
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Why would that be??
Video of ma. canal striper fishing from a yak.
https://youtu.be/2AXrLbVmfDY (https://youtu.be/2AXrLbVmfDY)
Thats not the canal. thats some back bay on cape cod. i honestly think its the bass river in fact.
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thanks for the responses. I looked into reels online and have narrowed it down to one of the following most likely. penn battle 2 or spinfisher, shimano spheros or saragosa. ill have to check them out in store and decide pricewise, but as of right now sorta leaning towards the spinfisher possibly with baitrunner.
when you guys fish eels how do you do so?
Avoid the lower end Penns. The main gear is notably week, specifically in the battle. It would hold up for a bit but after a few trips of throwing 4-5oz and a big fish or two you'd notice a difference in performance. More notchy, not as smooth. If you spend a few more bucks for either of the shimanos you'll get a few seasons with proper care.
Eels are easy to fish at the canal. Cast out, drift, repeat. (Bring the eel slowly. No need for a baitrunner type device to do it. Some guys add rubber core weights to get down, I do not. I like to let them drift along and as was the case with the only fish I landed, it set the hook itself!
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Avoid the lower end Penns. The main gear is notably week, specifically in the battle. It would hold up for a bit but after a few trips of throwing 4-5oz and a big fish or two you'd notice a difference in performance. More notchy, not as smooth. If you spend a few more bucks for either of the shimanos you'll get a few seasons with proper care.
Eels are easy to fish at the canal. Cast out, drift, repeat. (Bring the eel slowly. No need for a baitrunner type device to do it. Some guys add rubber core weights to get down, I do not. I like to let them drift along and as was the case with the only fish I landed, it set the hook itself!
Do you have a picture of the guts in the penn battle?? Cause I want to compare to a penn pursuit 2 .. I got thd penn pursuit 2 with metal side plate been fishing it two seasons throwing 2 pound surf claw sinkers and reeling them in with fish on.. the reel has not got sloppy yet that's why I wanted a comparison.. I had a quantum optix opf 80 get sloppy and start skipping gears after a year of use.. was not well made at all but for less then $30 it did the job till I got these..any how any reel pictures of the battle and other Penns in question?? Maybe we can look at the gutts like in this photo if it works?? And is not to large?? This is the insides of s penn pursuit 2 size 8000. At least we get a quick view if any thing if it works??
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Lookup Alan Hawk reel reviews. I dont think comparing your fishing to the canal or your reel to the battle is really relevant but thats just this guys opinion. What you will find is the battles gear is different material than yours. That said...OP if you use a cheap penn at the canal you'll replace it. If you throw 2 pound sinkers with boondox ::) you may be fine?
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If you throw 2 pound sinkers with boondox ::) you may be fine?
lol
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Did I just hear something go SNAP!?
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Joking aside...its the constant pressure of jigging 4-5 oz in a very stiff current that is tough on the spool shaft and gears. That and if you are lucky 30 and 40lb stripers! If you are really lucky a 50!
Reels I've destroyed there in 10 years:
6000 stradic
3 4500 diawa saltists (#3 is in service but only has a few more cows in her)
2 emblem pros (#2 is in service, rotor brake is smoked!)
5000fa stella (broke body, rock rolled over that the rod was propped in)
8000fd sustain (broke body, bike blew over with rods in it)
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Reels I've destroyed there in 10 years:
6000 stradic
3 4500 diawa saltists (#3 is in service but only has a few more cows in her)
2 emblem pros (#2 is in service, rotor brake is smoked!)
5000fa stella (broke body, rock rolled over that the rod was propped in)
8000fd sustain (broke body, bike blew over with rods in it)
Ouch on the Stella..
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Ouch on the Stella..
That was a bad morning. I own the only FA body shimano had left in North America..still need to send it back...broke the anti reverse!
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Granted I only fish the canal 5-10 times a year I've had my battle 2 going on its 4th year and haven't had any drop in performance. I've also never landed anything over 30 inches at the canal so it really hasn't been tested. I use the same reel out of my yak but use a 7 foot penn rod and I've landed fish up to 45 inches on that setup. If you are new to the canal i think the battle 2 will suffice unless you plan on fishing the canal very frequently.
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You make a good point Pat regarding frequency vs dependability. However 45" bass in a yak moves you while you catch it. At the canal at full tide the pressure on the same reel with the same fish is measurably more...
Diawa learned with the emblem after a number of guys broke the folding handle on the first gen!
I found another saragosa for under 300 on ebay so I am scooping it up. Not seeing much of a performance difference between it and the 1200 dollar sw stella.
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Lookup Alan Hawk reel reviews. I dont think comparing your fishing to the canal or your reel to the battle is really relevant but thats just this guys opinion. What you will find is the battles gear is different material than yours. That said...OP if you use a cheap penn at the canal you'll replace it. If you throw 2 pound sinkers with boondox ::) you may be fine?
Have looked up Allen hawk.. and why is comparing my type of fishing to yours not the same?? Have you ever been to port huron to fish ?? And have land fish in the 30 pound range. Since now your the expert now how is fishing different? Been doing this type of fishing every weekend for the last 7 years most reels don't hold up.. cause of the fish the current and weights we use.. put it this way you throw that 6 ounce sinker out in our current strait out in front of you.. it won't hit bottom even by the end of your drift.. so how's the fishing the different? we have more current deeper water and large fish?? So why is it different..
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Boondox no egos here just trying to stick towards the op's question. Suggesting I am an expert for saying a completely different fishery hunders of miles away is childish at best, had you said expert at the canal I would have agreed! Reel for the canal not a port hundreds of miles away was the question. Come visit and I will be happy to show you. You'll catch a big striper and then frown about those tank scrubbers in the port.
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Oh wait now I know why you having him purchase the best of the best reels trying to liberate it?
I wouldnt go too crazy if you plan on fishing at night, I bought a mountain bike off CL for 50 bucks and hide it in the woods while im fishing. I've already had 1 person try to liberate me of its ownership. That said hiding a trike would be a pain and even during the day you don't want to leabe any gear in your bike while you are fishing. It will walk. I have a kickstand on my bike that I never use because I lay it down or hide it in the woods and bring all my gear with me. Here's a pic. Note the pvc rod holders are clamped to the backet with Hd hose clamps. They provide support for 2 plug bags and the biggest bass you can fit (approx 42lbs or so by my tests ;D ) *
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Oh wait now I know why you having him purchase the best of the best reels trying to liberate it?
A reel is a bike? Pretty sure I dont hold my bike in my hands all night...but congrats you can win the internet today. Your prize.. well..idk pat yourself on the back? The best reels fyi are 1200-1400 spinning reels designed for jigging tuna. I did not suggest that. To the contrary I said a 300 dollar reel performed similarly.
Go have a drink or take a cast. Dont take your case of the Monday's out on fishfinder! Also worth noting I never said anything g bad about your reel or how you use it.
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still haven't picked up a rod or reel yet but am getting there... trying to wait for some kind of coupon from cabelas or something. just wondering if I could pick some of you canal regulars brains a little more. I'm going to need to accumulate some tackle. I have some like savage sand eels and sp minnows. wondering what say you guys about favorite/best lures to use there. I know top water is very popular and don't have any of those yet. feel free to pm me. any hints will be much appreciated. thanks
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Right now...eels. 7/0 ocotpus hook, floro leader and an eel. You can catch a lot of bass that way. Savages and sp's are good to habe, they work. Fav colors of mine are the plack purple sp and black savage. I still prefer ronz tails when I can get them. Bill hurleys produce too. I also throw 9" tsunami shads a lot as well.
As far as topwater goes you will definetly want something that gets distance. Super strike little neck gets out there. Any pencil popper thats 3.5 oz or more will too. I use a loaded cordell a lot in mack coloration.
All that said, enough time spent drifting eels will eventually get you a big bass. And the best tip is do not get in the habit of bombing cast after cast....there are big fish in close frequently at night. Most of the largest ones I land are no more than 40 feet from the bank. This pbviously excludes and surface feeding which is typically further out.
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still haven't picked up a rod or reel yet but am getting there...
If it were me, Id look at the St Croix Triumph Surf rod rated for 2-6oz that Jon Suggested (180$). Pair it with a 8000 Shimano Shperos SW (220$). This puts you at 400$ Leaving you 100 for line, leader, plugs, a bag, etc.
Kittery trading post has 20% off orders over 100$ right now with free shipping. Would save you over 100$. Code is SAVE20 (all cap)
Probably not getting a better deal than that.
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Buddy jigs with that rod. I can confrim it will handle bass to 47"!
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still haven't picked up a rod or reel yet but am getting there... trying to wait for some kind of coupon from cabelas or something. just wondering if I could pick some of you canal regulars brains a little more. I'm going to need to accumulate some tackle. I have some like savage sand eels and sp minnows. wondering what say you guys about favorite/best lures to use there. I know top water is very popular and don't have any of those yet. feel free to pm me. any hints will be much appreciated. thanks
Just got a coupon for 20 off 150 today private message me if you want it good till 8/20/17
Also the saragosa is back ordered or I would say that in the srg8000sw reel cost 289.99.. and a tsunami air wave model tsawss -1002xh cost for rod is $140 get $10 lures lines etc you
save $20 if you get same coupon that's 40 you save on all
They also have the penn batallion surf rod model batsf1530510 for 109.99 pair that with a pursuit 2 $50reel or a fierce 2 $80 bolth the 6000 size penn
truth fully the better set up above you will thank your self for it in the long run.. also think you would rather a st Croix rod if you can't find one cheap enough there is the tsunami airwave wich is a 10 foot good for 3 to 6 ounce 20 to 40 pound line try to find a similar st Croix if you can?? St Croix are better. Let me know if you could use that coupon for cabelas via pm??
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Thats a solid combo too boondox. 8000 gosa will do the trick and the airwave has better guides than the penn assuming tsunami is still using fuji hardloys. I doubt anyone could tell the difference between the airwave and triumph and would say that 3-6oz range is where you want to be.
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If planning to shop at cabelas..
They got the socorro 8000 at $130 in stock
Spereos 8000 for $220 again in stock.
And yhe saragosa 6000 for $270 but you would be very limited if you got a hold of a big striper cause of line capacity and then there is the 10,000 saragosa for $309.99 all in stock ..
By the way carefull going to clearence houses like seriea trading post.com jet.com etc.. st Croix does not stand by thier warranty when bought from these type of places it's in thd fine print of their warranty same with most rod mfgs cause of people reselling on ebay years ago.. that's why people like cabelas make a killing on their rods cause they know they won't stand by thier warranty when sold by clearence houses like jet, e bay ,sierra trading post ,etc.. that's why I don't suggest those
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Thats a solid combo too boondox. 8000 gosa will do the trick and the airwave has better guides than the penn assuming tsunami is still using fuji hardloys. I doubt anyone could tell the difference between the airwave and triumph and would say that 3-6oz range is where you want to be.
To bad it's back ordered the 8000 size saragosa and ya the shimano are better then penn combo for sure..
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To bad it's back ordered the 8000 size saragosa and ya the shimano are better then penn combo for sure..
Checkout the Alan Hawk review on the Spheros. Its virtually the same as the Gosa. Save the $$ and get the Spheros.
http://www.alanhawk.com/reviews/spsw.html (http://www.alanhawk.com/reviews/spsw.html)
The Spheros SW is lower cost version of the Saragosa SW with the exact build and materials, and nearly 95% of the parts are shared between the two reels.
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thanks guys. that would have been a sweet deal at kittery baitbucket. too bad I read the fine print and it doesn't apply to shimano or st criox : >:(
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I just got that same $20 off cabelas coupon in the mail.
what about braided line wt. 50 lb?
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Offer still stands on the coupon..
By the way fish usa has good rods too like
Okuma cedros surf spinning rod for $130 its a 11 footer model cs-s1102ha with a limited life time warranty
And okuma Solaris spinning surf rod model ss-s-1002mh-1 cost is $89.99 with a limit life Time warranty again good for 20 to 40 lb and 3 to 8 ounce and is 10 foot
Then their is a st Croix trimph 10 foot 6 inch 5 year warranty model tsrs106mh2 cost $180
I have had good luck with okuma rods just letting you know my dad still has a okuma Finna spinning reel he's had foe 30 years at least lol's not saying it's the best but still has it..
Like bait bucket said check see if cabelas will allow shimano and get the spheros reel and save $20 off of $150 on me just pm me let me know you want it..
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I just got that same $20 off cabelas coupon in the mail.
what about braided line wt. 50 lb?
I would say yes to 50# if you got a walmart by you they have power pro in 50#at mine for 12.99 for 150 yds that's what I use river fishing with those 2 lb surf claw sinkers here in michigan that and 65 # and 80 # .. just to mention some guys don't like power pro.. I think lowaccord was who it was?? not sure though.. if you get the 150 yds you might need 2 packs the 8000 reel shimano will hold about two packs of 50# at 150 yards each .. and maybe 5 wraps of 30#mono under it
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For the canal I use 300 yards of 55lb samuri braid. On the gosa there is 300 yards of 50lb powerpro. The samuri casts further and is less prone to random breaks that powerpro sometimes suffers. (Boondox your right I dont like it but it was all that was available when I got the gosa) The samuri braid is expensive though. I will never use less than 300 yards. Ive been nearly spooled a few times.
Ebay has deals on the 'gosa but Will makes a good point regarding the review.
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so I wound up ordering a spheros 8000 for $190 which I haven't received yet. I bought a tsunami airwave xh 4-8oz rod on Saturday. fished it Sunday at the canal and snapped the top 8 inches or so off the rod just by simply trying to hook the lure on the bottom guide...no idea why it happened. hopefully i'll be able to return it without too much trouble but now I'm going to have to figure out where to turn from here all over again. spent about an hour checking out all the options in bass pro before pulling the trigger. I did like the rod till it snapped. lol. on another note I ordered some 40lb samurai braid off ebay for my new spheros 8000 but wound up putting it on another reel. after seeing how thin the 40 was I ordered 300yrds of 55lb for $30 and just got it today. only when I opened the box I was shocked to find out they accidently sent me a 1500yrd spool of 55lb test for $30!!! you win some you lose some I guess! I am so far very impressed with the samurai braid, thanks for that suggestion.
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Check in to okuma rods the life time warranty will bless you in long run..
that's the problem I have had with 30 ton and 60 ton graphite scrims like on the Abu Garcia vandetta rods there so stiff and stiff means brittle on most rods not talking feeling like a broom stick stiff graphite stiffness.. my long salmon rod's have glass scrims in them and Im8 threw Im6 graphite the glass make them more flex able and the graphite helps stiffen them up.. it's best of bolth world's why do you think most tuna rods are mainly glass?? Cause there resilient and flex way more and better then say sold graphite.. like those hexagon rods they make for tuna all out of graphite too much flex they snap in two but when you look at the core it is amazing how it made.. .. it is a high tech design of a blank..
any how the graphite stiffens them up on rods your looking at too and the glass softens them like that of a ulgy stick.. "glass rod" but also make more resilient to breakage check out okuma rods at fish usa there is one for $89.99 and one for $130 see if you can locate one around you to look at?? there not going to be as stiff as the air wave but the glass in them will save lighter leaders and flex better.. and the life time warranties will give you piece of mind..
that's why I don't like st Croix cause its a 5 year warranty.. also the rod you bought does it have a life time warranty?? Tsunami use to have life time warranties?? If they do just send it back or call them they will replace it if it's life time warranted .. if it don't return it and get a okuma.. lol's
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so I wound up ordering a spheros 8000 for $190 which I haven't received yet. I bought a tsunami airwave xh 4-8oz rod on Saturday. fished it Sunday at the canal and snapped the top 8 inches or so off the rod just by simply trying to hook the lure on the bottom guide...no idea why it happened. hopefully i'll be able to return it without too much trouble but now I'm going to have to figure out where to turn from here all over again. spent about an hour checking out all the options in bass pro before pulling the trigger. I did like the rod till it snapped. lol. on another note I ordered some 40lb samurai braid off ebay for my new spheros 8000 but wound up putting it on another reel. after seeing how thin the 40 was I ordered 300yrds of 55lb for $30 and just got it today. only when I opened the box I was shocked to find out they accidently sent me a 1500yrd spool of 55lb test for $30!!! you win some you lose some I guess! I am so far very impressed with the samurai braid, thanks for that suggestion.
Could have been a bad blank with the tsunami. I do use the 40 and it works great. I was using 55 and its sweet too but some holes you can only hit at the end of a cast.
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Could have been a bad blank with the tsunami. I do use the 40 and it works great. I was using 55 and its sweet too but some holes you can only hit at the end of a cast.
Agreed, Id give that rod another shot if they replace it for free.
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Agreed, Id give that rod another shot if they replace it for free.
X2 if its a free for a replacement.. if not go to okuma the ones I listed in post #51.. that rod should not have broke like that I think it should be s free replacement even if it's a one year warranty .. like I said last post I don't like the blanks that use the graphite for the schrim they tend to have more broken rods then fiber glass schrims do.like that Abu vendetta I could tell it would break if fish hard that's why I never bought it but some times you get bad blanks like lowaccord said.. helicopter blades have a graphite schrim all depends on thick ness like from blank to another.. the vendetta blanks were real thin like in wall thick Ness .. any how sorry to hear you had bad luck with that rod.. that is why its best to compare rods..
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Buddy gave me a vendetta. Have casted it a few times. Wicked stiff. Has its place. Will make for a solid walleye jig stick.
Ive seen every rod out there break at the canal...century and lamis tale the top spots. Lots of operator error. High sticking to land a fish...rod tip grabs instead of leader. Overloaded blanks casting. Nicks on the blank...
That said a buddy who fishes hard with me has been torturomg a 1-4oz tsunami we nicknamed "the barbie rod" there for years. That sick has a few pounds of bass on its resume.
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so the saga continues. my brother bought the same tsunami rod on Saturday as I did. we both fished it sunday. well yesterday he noticed the top eye on his was broken...we went back to bass pro today to return them and the only thing they said was "you must have fished the canal, everyone that's buying this rod to fish there is coming back with it broken". we got refunded and didn't get a replacement yet. probably look around tomorrow and i may be leaning towards the st Croix. we'll see...
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Okuma's warranty is life time were st Croix is five year.. there are pluses and minus to each I would hold it in hand before you buy.. if if you can't locate a okuma then go with what ever has good guides and a thick blank wall compare to the other .. what happened to you is why I think life times a little better then 5 yrs.. but some times st Croix has more pluses.. so don't get me wrong on this.. I stopped buying rods at stores with push shopping carts cause the broken guides the shopping carts cause just a heads up to always check guides before you leave that type of store..
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so the saga continues. my brother bought the same tsunami rod on Saturday as I did. we both fished it sunday. well yesterday he noticed the top eye on his was broken...we went back to bass pro today to return them and the only thing they said was "you must have fished the canal, everyone that's buying this rod to fish there is coming back with it broken". we got refunded and didn't get a replacement yet. probably look around tomorrow and i may be leaning towards the st Croix. we'll see...
That's odd. I've got the trophy series rod and have used it for a few years down at the canal without any problems. The airwave is supposed to be the next step up from the trophy but I guess not.
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The guides popping out on those is very common unfortunately. The fuji hardlloy guides they come with are good but that does haooen with a lot of airwaves.
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@lowaccord66
Have you seen the new ulgy stick guides ?? Would be sweat to put those on a good blank LIke a rain shadow by batson enterprises those are nice blanks very thick wall that resistance to breaking ..
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@lowaccord66
Have you seen the new ulgy stick guides ?? Would be sweat to put those on a good blank LIke a rain shadow by batson enterprises those are nice blanks very thick wall that resistance to breaking ..
I haven't seen them. I am rocking fuji k concepts on my 3 customs with alconite inserts. They work very well provided the spacing is correct.
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I haven't seen them. I am rocking fuji k concepts on my 3 customs with alconite inserts. They work very well provided the spacing is correct.
Will try to get a picture of one later there one piece stamped stainless steel.. they formed a ring out of the stainless steel pretty cool if you ask me no way to srep on them Crack or fracture the. There kinda like the flare on a brake line and then like polished or some thing so it don't fray line .. only thing I don't like about ulgy sticKS now is their blanks cause there To soft... if you throw these type of guides on a good batson rod I don't think it will ever fail you.. any how will have to see in picture I get later lol's ..
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A few pictures of the guide
Booklet with rod.
(https://i.imgur.com/33xRnIM.jpg)
Top side of guide
(https://i.imgur.com/C8PA796.jpg)
Under side of guide
(https://i.imgur.com/CpAlNT3.jpg)
There really cool guides to bad they don't sell them cause I am sold on them..
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got the spheros spooled with 55lb line, picked up an 11ft st Croix mojo 3-8oz rod today. heading down to the canal a 2am for its test run...hope this goes better than last time.
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How did you like the combo??
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Should be good to go with that. I use mojos for freshwater and they work great. Good luck!
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got the spheros spooled with 55lb line, picked up an 11ft st Croix mojo 3-8oz rod today.
Keep an eye on the reel seat on the mojo. I have heard many complaints of them breaking free from the blank and spinning. Almost like they didnt use enough epoxy when attaching it to the blank. There have been quite a few complaints about it on other forums. It is covered under warranty tho, if needed.
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so after my first trip with it. I couldn't be more happy with the reel. so smooth and nice to use. the rod is nice too but I have used a shimano tiralejo before and I think I might have like the feel of that one better. at least for bottom bouncing anyways. I believe the st Croix is a hair softer at the tip than the shimano was. seems like a great rod though and hopefully it will take many years of canal abuse for me. as for the fishing though they wouldn't cooperate for me and I got skunked. few were pulled in during dark or just at twilight. after that nothing. counted about half a dozen fish during my travels. and didn't see any mackerel this time either...
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Glad to hear the Spheros worked out. I use one on a Shimano Trevala for ground fishing, no complaints, especially for the price.
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The reel seat epoxy on the mojo will eventually be an issue. Usually the hook keeper goes first. However with a cpuple of items and some time over the winter adding coats can be accomplished.
However....When you hook a really really big bass in the canal you will eventually stress crack the epoxy. Ive done it on all my customs including my odm jigster.
On average night time is always the right time at the canal.