thats what i was told i was around the bend in that bay i dont even know if he seen me over there i didnt see him i just seen someone looking through binos and aske onyunn who it was he told me it was eco and that he seen those 2 on the dam snagging fish and it doesnt surprise me you didnt see or hear anything you never do you had to ask if came over to me when he was standing behind and next to you the whole time lol