Lake associations vs DEC... Can they do that?

[THEOZON]

Scott you don't need a licence to fish your own pond or  leases but everyone else needs one that is over the age of 16 does , the Farm Fresh Pond license  covers this and about stocking to and the license is free

Yes but you need the "free license".Direct family members are exempt from buying a license.

[filetandrelease]

Yes but you need the "free license".Direct family members are exempt from buying a license.

your right forgot to put that in

[esox v]

Were not talking about payment and the fact that the license is free is irrelevant... Were talking about being free to fish a pond on your "private" land without a license provided by the state, granting " Permission " to do so.  The answer is clearly NO.

 Plus the law doesn't even look like it pertains to sport fishing or recreational angling.

[filetandrelease]

your the one that stated you needed a licences to fish your own pond was all ,I'm not saying one does not need a permit to dig jeez

[esox v]

your the one that stated you needed a licences to fish your own pond was all ,I'm not saying one does not need a permit to dig jeez

Correct because you do. Not sure where the dig thing came from

That's funny that they use the word permission in the definition of permission.

As a side note, several years ago I was offered a job with the DEC that dealt with this stuff after I scored the highest on the civil service exam, I passed on it because I didn't want to move to the Western end of the State, I like the Adirondacks. Got into guiding soon after, can't believe I've been doing it for 16 years already; definitely made the right choice.

That is funny !!   Dunno about the DEC thing... 16 years twords  that pension and retirement. I would have made the same choice.... Being happy doing what you like is worth a lot

[OTIS]

Dunno about the DEC thing... 16 years twords  that pension and retirement. I would have made the same choice.... Being happy doing what you like is worth a lot

I'm not a state employee, but i work with thousands of them.  Lets just say that the benefit packages are not nearly as nice as what the public's perception of them is.  An average 401K will produce as much as a pension that you have to pay into.  Wither way you're working with your own money, not the governments.

[esox v]

I'm not a state employee, but i work with thousands of them.  Lets just say that the benefit packages are not nearly as nice as what the public's perception of them is.  An average 401K will produce as much as a pension that you have to pay into.  Wither way you're working with your own money, not the governments.

Guess that's good for the tax payer... Benefits were always better and the salary not so much... Then it turned to both being great. Then we went broke.

[filetandrelease]

I guess it would be easier just to call up the regional office and ask some questions, I called last week and they put me right through to the proper person , and My questions was  answered , no license needed to fish your own land under fishing license ,[exemptions ]

  

[BLACK ICE]

              Good post, I liked the debate you all had.

[ecolt14527]

First, the state "regulates" state waters, not own them !! Also, State angling regulations pertain to private ponds, UNLESS a person has a FREE farm fish pond license. That allows the owner to manage the fisheries of said pond anyway they wish. BUT the bottom line is that in my 34 years I didn't ever check anyone angling on a private pond and all officers that I worked with felt the same way. New York has enough water that was under patrolled to keep us busy !! After the 60' and 70's if we observed equipment building a five plus acre pond we may find out if they had the required permits.   JTP

[rgfixit]

Oh....they probably won't believe you anyway Jud. Real answers are seldom accepted here. Rather, they're rejected in favor of speculation and paranoia.

A sad commentary on the state of our NY anglers.

RG

[esox v]

Oh....they probably won't believe you anyway Jud. Real answers are seldom accepted here. Rather, they're rejected in favor of speculation and paranoia.

A sad commentary on the state of our NY anglers.

RG

What's sad...... Is really smart people who couldn't think their way out of a wet paper bag.
 
You can put this argument to rest RG.. With a simple "YES" or "No" answer.. Is a "FREE" farm fish pond license..... a license ?


YES OR NO

[esox v]

First, the state "regulates" state waters, not own them !! Also, State angling regulations pertain to private ponds, UNLESS a person has a FREE farm fish pond license. That allows the owner to manage the fisheries of said pond anyway they wish. BUT the bottom line is that in my 34 years I didn't ever check anyone angling on a private pond and all officers that I worked with felt the same way. New York has enough water that was under patrolled to keep us busy !! After the 60' and 70's if we observed equipment building a five plus acre pond we may find out if they had the required permits.    JTP

With all do respect Sir.... We are talking about the "LAW" and that's black and white...  Officers discretion on what laws they choose to enforce and don't is irrelevant to this debate and just muddies up the water.

[ecolt14527]

Hey RG, I give up. Had my fill of backroom attorneys over the years, again I give up !! esox v, you win, have it any way you want. JTP

[rgfixit]

Yep! It's gonna rain today

RG