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MFF US Northeast => New York => Topic started by: keva on Mar 14, 2010, 09:29 AM
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I was thinking about making a trip to the Adirondacks for a little back packing and trout fishing. I was wondering if you guys had any tips as to an area that has some nice streams and trout ponds that are a good hike in. I would not mind hiking in for two or three days, as long as I could fish a little along the way. Also, around what time can I expect these ponds to be free of ice? Any help is greatly appreciated!
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hey keva, im by no means an expert on adks trout fishing but we go up to my buddies camp numerous times a year in Indian Lake. We seem to do pretty good with trout around that area, the hudson headwaters, cedar river and flow are our usual spots. there are a ton of ponds, lakes and streams around that area. i know Indian Lake has a bunch of primitive campsites run by the state that are free just need to sign in. maybe you could get a campsite as a base of operations to fish out of. Im sure there are plenty of other good places to go but this is the only place im that familiar with. i dont know when the ice will be off. we went icefishing up there a couple weeks ago and there were !8" of ice.
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the pharaoh lakes area can be a great spot to hike, camp and fish... lots of ponds and lakes that hold browns, rainbows and brooks, i believe theres quite a few lean-toos as well... late april- early may is good time (also before the black flies get bad)
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+ one for pharaoh, also rt2 left, on Exit 28 towards Newcomb, along the Boreas, plenty of opportunities.
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Moose river is a great place to fish,Camp> I go there for a week every year!!! I catch quite a few fish now that I got it figured out!!
Gary
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we do a good number of trout in the begining of black river during turkey season when were there
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Check out the Five Ponds Wilderness Area and the Cranberry Lake Wild Forest. They are all natives up there and FYI the old state record brookie came out of the five ponds wilderness area. In the Cranberry Lake wild forest try Curtis Pond, or Dog Pond, and for the Five ponds area try Olmstead Pond, Cowhorn Pond, or the actual Five ponds for which the area is named for. Most of these ponds are located along the Cranberry Lake 50. If you go up there make sure you have a blood transfusion with you ready to go because you will need it from all the blackflies and mosquito bites!! Good Luck.
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Murphy lake is a good one.off creek rd off rte 30.3 mile walk and 2 other lakes on the way in.lean too on murphy and boats hidden but easy to find.
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If you go up there make sure you have a blood transfusion with you ready to go because you will need it from all the blackflies and mosquito bites!! Good Luck.
So true about the ADKs in the spring. A bug suit and cans of OFF! is a must. ;)
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cigars help keep the bugs off your face but they are bad for your health.lol.reality is bugs are coming but if the bite is on its worth it.
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DEET 100 on the visor of your old cap, head net, and off you go...second week of june till last weekend, blakflie heaven!!! " defenders of the Wilderness..."
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Just a note, don't plan on a boat to use. DEC spent two months pulling them, including use of helicopter....
So where was that in the budget??? Heard they got between 100-200 boats. Good news is if you have the info of your you can buy it back!!!!
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Just a note, don't plan on a boat to use. DEC spent two months pulling them, including use of helicopter....
So where was that in the budget??? Heard they got between 100-200 boats. Good news is if you have the info of your you can buy it back!!!!
Really?!?! All the ECO's and Ranger I worked with didn't have a problem with stashed canoes, only had a problem with them being chained....
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get a map and a stocking list and have at it.
hope there's some boats left... if people just left theirs (and the ones they borrow) back into the woods a mite bit there'd be no problem.
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try moose river plains,lots of ponds ,streams and camping.most boats are removed because they are damaged.people chained them,so others damaged them.thats what started the removal.a few bad incidents ruin it for all,isnt that always the way!
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Just a note, don't plan on a boat to use. DEC spent two months pulling them, including use of helicopter....
So where was that in the budget??? Heard they got between 100-200 boats. Good news is if you have the info of your you can buy it back!!!!
Do you have a source for this?
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Do you have a source for this?
I was thinking the same thing.
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why do people have to chain up the boats in the middle of the woods. makes no seince to me. i left a boat at a pond and 6 years later its still there being used. if people just put them back there would be no problems. and i always carry a tube of underwater weld for any holes that are the boats i find. has anybody tried fishing eaglesnest pond. above eigth lake.
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why do people have to chain up the boats in the middle of the woods. makes no seince to me. i left a boat at a pond and 6 years later its still there being used. if people just put them back there would be no problems. and i always carry a tube of underwater weld for any holes that are the boats i find. has anybody tried fishing eaglesnest pond. above eigth lake.
I've fished Eagle Nest a few times, but not in quite a few years. Never had much luck there.
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alright i was just thinking about trying it while i go to bug lake.
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There are supposed to be brookies in Eagle Nest, but it's tough to fish, even with a boat. It's small, especially for trolling, and tough to fish from shore with all the trees/logs in the water.
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yea ive heard ther were brookies in it to. but your right theres timber all over the shore. no were to shore fish. i guess its time to go to my secret pond. southern adirondacks.
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why do people have to chain up the boats in the middle of the woods. makes no seince to me. i left a boat at a pond and 6 years later its still there being used. if people just put them back there would be no problems. and i always carry a tube of underwater weld for any holes that are the boats i find. has anybody tried fishing eaglesnest pond. above eigth lake.
b/c boats get the crap beaten out of them bu people who don't care. we had one stashed back in a bit from shore that got found and pretty much destroyed. took it out, fixed it, and found a better spot. people who lock the boats just don't want to do a little extra work of hiding the boat. i've used others boats plenty of times and always put them back where they were. a little respect goes a long way.
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agreed. i think that if you find it put it back in the same spot. ive reapared numerouse boats in the backwoods ive found. underwater weld is the bomb. works great . i just think chaing a boat is a bit rediculouse. i guess im just not that kinda person. ;) i leave my boat ulocked and its been fine 4 3 years now. if your gonna chain it up then that gives more people the incentive to destroy the chain and take the boat. 90 percent of us are good people . i wont desrtoy youir boat. i promise
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\ if your gonna chain it up then that gives more people the incentive to destroy the chain and take the boat.
2X
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Do you have a source for this?
I read or saw that too, (that DEC was removing all boats), >:(
Storage of Personal Belongings on State Land: Please be aware that the State Land Use Regulation was revised, effective May 2009, to prohibit the placing structures or personal property on state land without authorization from DEC. Boats, camps, etc.should be removed from state lands or they will be removed by Environmental Conservation Officers or Forest Rangers. Exceptions include to the prohibition include:
a geocache that is labeled with the owner's name and address and installed in a manner that does not disturb the natural conditions of the site or injure a tree;
a camping structure or equipment that is placed and used legally pursuant to this Part;
a legally placed trap or appurtenance that is placed and used during trapping season;
a tree stand or hunting blind that does not injure a tree, is properly marked or tagged with the owner's name and address or valid hunting or fishing license number, and is placed and used during big game season, migratory game bird season, or turkey season; or
a wildlife viewing blind or stand that is placed for a duration not to exceed thirty (30) days in one location per calendar year, does not injure a tree, and is properly marked or tagged with the owner's name and address or valid hunting or fishing license number
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lets hike licence fees and take all the boats away then hike licenses again.great idea new york.lets continue to mess with outdoorsmen.....its their passion so the they will pay anything and deal with anything.They wonder why there are so many outlaws.They cause it.NY=Scumbags.no money but lets go get old canoes.its only a matter of time before more are there but better hidden.Vote out the blind idiot!
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gotta love our state. luckily i put my name and address on the 2 i have stashed, so hopefully they are still there
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i hear you. i have 3 stashed. they better still be there or ill cry :'(
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it sucks walkin in 3-10 miles only to for your boat to be gone. been there done that, don't care to do it again.
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What's the best or more popular type of boat/canoe to use for Adk Brookies? Thinking of buying something I can portage in and out.
Thanks-Mike
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What's the best or more popular type of boat/canoe to use for Adk Brookies? Thinking of buying something I can portage in and out.
Thanks-Mike
Whatever you can afford. The lighter the better. I have a radisson canoe, which is about 30-32 lbs and portages nicely. I know people that own sportspals and like them. If you can afford a kevlar or one of the other canoes made of lighter material, I think you can get down to about 12-15 lbs. They cost though.
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What's the best or more popular type of boat/canoe to use for Adk Brookies? Thinking of buying something I can portage in and out.
Thanks-Mike
Look up Kayak vs Canoe post. I posted this a week or so ago. There is some good suggestions on there.
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I also have a kayak, which I love, but I think most kayaks can be more difficult to portage.
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I also have a kayak, which I love, but I think most kayaks can be more difficult to portage.
I was asking which one do people prefer, I was looking to buy either a Kayak or Canoe. A lot of mixed posts. I used a Wenona at a woodsmans competition where we had to portage around a course. The Yoke was surprisingly comfortable.
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What's the best or more popular type of boat/canoe to use for Adk Brookies? Thinking of buying something I can portage in and out.
Thanks-Mike
Get a Hornbeck Mike. Youll be able to portage it miles.
http://www.hornbeckboats.com/ (http://www.hornbeckboats.com/)
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I was asking which one do people prefer, I was looking to buy either a Kayak or Canoe. A lot of mixed posts. I used a Wenona at a woodsmans competition where we had to portage around a course. The Yoke was surprisingly comfortable.
The original poster here was asking about boats to portage. Like I said, I love my kayak. The canoe portages much easier though.
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Sounds like a good time...Great job on giving up some great spots...
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Get a Hornbeck Mike. Youll be able to portage it miles.
http://www.hornbeckboats.com/ (http://www.hornbeckboats.com/)
yup thats the one you want!!
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Do you have a source for this?
Yes, my brother works for DEC maintenance, and the head of maintenance in Indian lake, as well as several forest rangers. From what I'm told, a Nature conservancy honcho was hiking into several ponds they acquired land adjacent to. Saw all the boats, went to the state with a complaint. Told them to start removing them according to the laws(has been on the books for years) or he would have the conservancy start doing it and charge the state. On a side note I did here some were left , not sure why, maybe they just haven't gotten to them yet? Or they aren't on forever wild state land, or the state guys don't like being threatened into doing something they don't really want to. Either way I wouldn't count on a boat being at a backwoods pond....
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hornbeck is a great choice if you have money. radison/sportspal also work quite well.
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Yes, my brother works for DEC maintenance, and the head of maintenance in Indian lake, as well as several forest rangers. From what I'm told, a Nature conservancy honcho was hiking into several ponds they acquired land adjacent to. Saw all the boats, went to the state with a complaint. Told them to start removing them according to the laws(has been on the books for years) or he would have the conservancy start doing it and charge the state. On a side note I did here some were left , not sure why, maybe they just haven't gotten to them yet? Or they aren't on forever wild state land, or the state guys don't like being threatened into doing something they don't really want to. Either way I wouldn't count on a boat being at a backwoods pond....
it would be nice if they just let us keep them there as long as we put names and addresses on them, kind of like ice shanties maybe ???
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I'll second the suggestion of the Hornbeck boats. I have a 10.5' blackjack and really like it. I would suggest getting the oar locks but probably not the actual oars he sells. As of a couple years ago, they were wooden oars that are nice looking but very heavy and they 'plunk' into the water during rowing. Use a cheap pair of inflatable raft oars and they'll work fine at lower cost.
The main problem people have with the stashed boats is that they inevitably end up as litter after years of neglect and 'sportsmen' using them for target practice. They end up on the ground to decay or are thrown in the lake. That and in some lakes, the number of boats stashed has become absurd. I don't think DEC or anyone else cares if a couple boats are stashed out of sight but its become out of control. This isn't some environmentalist conspiracy against sportsmen, its a matter of keeping our public lands pristine.
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yea i agree to a exstent but do they really need to be waisting time and money looking for stashed boats. just seems a little poitless to me. i mean they raise our lisnceses 10dollars and then they spend that money on looking for our stashed boats. and a small lightweight radison seems to work pretty well. atleast thats all i can afford for know. went to my favorite pond yesterday to see if it was frozen and it was. still locked up tight just a little week around the edges. wait 2 more weeks and youl have open water.
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Gentlemen: Thank you very much for all the advice. I ended up buying a new Radisson, 12' Olive Drab Green. Been trying to get comfortable with it for the past few days but no good. I have no problem carrying it. The biggest issue I'm having is getting in and out of it. I had knee surgery a few months back to put a temporary fix on some severe arthritis but still have some limited range of motion bending the knee. This canoe is just too low to the ground for me. Oh well, it was worth a try. Gonna put the thing on Craig's list next week and stick with a row boat on 13th and 8th!
Thanks again!
Mike
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Gentlemen: Thank you very much for all the advice. I ended up buying a new Radisson, 12' Olive Drab Green. Been trying to get comfortable with it for the past few days but no good. I have no problem carrying it. The biggest issue I'm having is getting in and out of it. I had knee surgery a few months back to put a temporary fix on some severe arthritis but still have some limited range of motion bending the knee. This canoe is just too low to the ground for me. Oh well, it was worth a try. Gonna put the thing on Craig's list next week and stick with a row boat on 13th and 8th!
Thanks again!
Mike
check out the inflatable boats by sea eagle there very comfy there stable enough that you can stand u and move around easily also they are very light weight and can fold up to fit in a big back pack,i have the sea eagle 8 which is plenty big enough for 2 people
http://www.seaeagle.com/MotorMountBoats.aspx?hullID=SE8 (http://www.seaeagle.com/MotorMountBoats.aspx?hullID=SE8)
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Thanks for all the advice guys! I really appreciate it. When I make plans, I will let you guys know. I will be sure to take a camera too!
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Gentlemen: Thank you very much for all the advice. I ended up buying a new Radisson, 12' Olive Drab Green. Been trying to get comfortable with it for the past few days but no good. I have no problem carrying it. The biggest issue I'm having is getting in and out of it. I had knee surgery a few months back to put a temporary fix on some severe arthritis but still have some limited range of motion bending the knee. This canoe is just too low to the ground for me. Oh well, it was worth a try. Gonna put the thing on Craig's list next week and stick with a row boat on 13th and 8th!
Thanks again!
Mike
I have a Radisson. I do love it, but the seats that come with them are horrible. I tote around a small boat seat in mine. I prop the front of my seat up with whatever is handy when I'm trolling. Lay back and straighten the legs out a bit. I know that won't help getting in and out of it.
Get ahold of Combsey. The dude loves buying stuff. No kids yet lol. You may not have to fart around with craigs list.
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cut the legs off a lawn chair
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i saw a guy using those short legged beach chairs in his radisson,he said it was as comfy as can be and it folded up and bungeed in with his oars witch made it easy to carry in to those way back in ponds
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I just sit on a boat seat cushion. I had to move the center crossbar back a little bit . Being 6' 7" needed a little more room LOL