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Title: how bout those ducks?
Post by: The Splash on Apr 24, 2009, 12:23 AM
Making the sharks look like minnows!
Title: Re: how bout those ducks?
Post by: crosscobra on Apr 24, 2009, 12:29 PM
i am rooting for the ducks i want san jose gone so we will have home ice the rest of the play offs
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Post by: Fish Killa on Apr 24, 2009, 01:01 PM
I am not sure what I want. I would rather play Vancouver than Anaheim, but I would love home ice in the west.  ::)
Title: Re: how bout those ducks?
Post by: crosscobra on Apr 24, 2009, 01:09 PM
I am not sure what I want. I would rather play Vancouver than Anaheim, but I would love home ice in the west.  ::)

idk i think i would rather play the ducks vs vancouver but only time will tell
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Post by: The Splash on Apr 24, 2009, 02:44 PM
Are the wings fans shaking in their boots?
Title: Re: how bout those ducks?
Post by: crosscobra on Apr 24, 2009, 02:45 PM
Are the wings fans shaking in their boots?

absolutly not! lol just saying what i would rather have thats all
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Post by: Pajns on Apr 24, 2009, 03:05 PM
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Title: Re: how bout those ducks?
Post by: The Splash on Apr 24, 2009, 03:11 PM
Hahahaha, just ruffling some feathers
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Post by: Pajns on Apr 24, 2009, 03:19 PM
 :whistling: 
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Post by: Adam Bomb on Apr 25, 2009, 07:40 PM
I dont care who we play. To win you gotta beat the best teams and the Wings are certainly capable of that. If we complete hard for 60 minutes we can play with any team in the league. If we do that i like our odds of victory at the end of the night.

I wasnt happy with our game four closing of the Blue Jackets, we got the "W" against a very desperate Columbus team and thats what matters, but play like that isnt gonna cut it as you advance to later rounds. Gotta tighten it up defensively like we did in the first three games. But, ill take any game as long as theres one more on our side of the scoreboard at nights end. ;D
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Post by: Steelie Slayer on Apr 25, 2009, 09:43 PM
ur ducks are lookin like strait up SHI* so far in the 1st splash........
Title: Re: how bout those ducks?
Post by: The Splash on Apr 25, 2009, 10:23 PM
Not my team! Just was impressed the other night. Its all about the Pens!
Title: Re: how bout those ducks?
Post by: Steelie Slayer on Apr 26, 2009, 04:01 AM
Did the pens end up winnin yesterday??
Title: Re: how bout those ducks?
Post by: The Splash on Apr 26, 2009, 05:03 AM
Did the pens end up winnin yesterday??
You better believe it! Crosby scored twice and the Flyers fans KEPT chanting "Crosby sucks".  It was so loud on tv and it was obvious what they were saying, I wanted him to take a bow at the end of the game as an eff u to the Philly fans.
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Post by: Adam Bomb on Apr 26, 2009, 08:25 AM
Philly completely blew that game. Had a 3-0 lead and lost the game 5-3...Cant do that in the playoffs!!! This was actually a pretty good series. If you look at things on paper the stats were pretty even overall with the exception of faceoffs. Pitt totally dominated that category in part to Crosby's high faceoff %. Think he's winning over 60% of the draws he takes...Unbelievable!!! Goal differential in this series was a whopping 2.

I didnt catch the ducks/sharks last night as i was tuckered out from turkey hunting. From what i saw on the NHL Network this morning the game shoulda been a blowout in San Jose's favor. Hit a couple posts and missed some open nets that shoulda ended the game by the ened of regulation. I give the Ducks and Hiller some credit though for hanging tough and keeping themselves in the game despite getting grossely outshot...I think the sharks had like 48 shots on goal to the Ducks 25!...Hiller has been/was unbelievable again last night. Some of the saves he made were just sick!!! Even the winning goal despite the goal mouth being completely steam rolled just barely squeaked in. Been a hell of a series, and i wouldnt be surprised if she goes seven.

How about the Hawks? I see they spanked the Flames yesterday. I wonder if theyll smell blood in the water and close out the Flames on their home ice? Every game so far has been won on home ice for either team. You would think Chicago's young players should be really hungry and want to end this series in Calgary. But, at the same time, Kip was not good for Calgary in yesterdays game and i bet he'll play allot better in game 6, along with his team mates as they have their backs against the wall now. Should be a heck of a finish to that series. Another one that could go seven, but it think the Hawks will close it out in six.
Title: Re: how bout those ducks?
Post by: Steelie Slayer on Apr 26, 2009, 11:29 AM
Crosby does suck. Hes a whine @$$. Might as well play wearing a skirt with a purse over his shoulder.
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Post by: crosscobra on Apr 26, 2009, 02:11 PM
Crosby does suck. Hes a whine @$$. Might as well play wearing a skirt with a purse over his shoulder.

yep the kid get very lucky but heyi have a broken watch and twice a day its right.... boston will destroy the pens
Title: Re: how bout those ducks?
Post by: The Splash on Apr 26, 2009, 06:48 PM
There is nothing more unintelligent than saying a great player sucks just cuz you don't personally like him. Stats speak for themselves!
 Thought you were smarter than that steelie?
Title: Re: how bout those ducks?
Post by: Adam Bomb on Apr 26, 2009, 07:15 PM
He's definitely a great player, i dont think anyone can deny that. I just dont put him on a pedistal like the NHL does. Why, because there are several players in the league of the same caliber.

My only critisms about Crosby are when he chooses to fight. He's done it twice now and neither incident called for it. Taking liberties with players on other teams the way he has is uncalled for. The last incident when Malkin was cleanly hip checked was rediculous. And he's not the only one that does it. Theres a trend that I dont understand. It seems that todays younger players have to get in a fight after a clean hockey play. Just accept it for what it is and keep on playing. For instance, Umberger got completely smoked by Stuart in our series on nearly an identical play to the Malkin incident and no reprocussions in the form of a fight ensued. Why, cause it was a clean hockey play. But, what Columbus did do was try and lay the body on to even things up if you will. One of those involved Comadore going into the Wings bench after a missed hit. Unfortunately for Columbus they let that hit take them off their game and instead of playing it smart and picking the right time and place to lay on some big body checks. Their focus went from playing hockey to retrebution for that hit on Umberger. It wasnt long and the Wings quickly added a couple goals and went on to win that game handily.

Where am i going with this. One clean hit is not the game and theres no sense in head hunting or fighting after a clean play. Chances are youll hurt your team in one way or another, whether it be a penalty or putting yourself out of position to make a hit. Let the play come to you lay on the hit when the time is right....Retrebution doesnt have to be instantaneous.

By no means do i think that fighting doesnt belong in the game because i totally think that it DOES. Its been a long standing tradition in the game and can give a team a lift. You just need to do it at the right time for the right reasons in todays NHL....The days of the "Bruise Brothers" is over with.
Title: Re: how bout those ducks?
Post by: The Splash on Apr 26, 2009, 07:36 PM
The NHL does the worst job of marketing in all of sports, but its no different then Lebron and the NBA.
 Its alright, I'm sure most wings fans said Hossa sucks until a couple of weeks ago when the playoffs started and they for the first time realized he's a wing!
Title: Re: how bout those ducks?
Post by: Adam Bomb on Apr 26, 2009, 10:31 PM
I agree with the marketing statement, but when it comes to the abilities of a player, they decide that on the ice for everyone to see. Anyone who is too blind to take notice of how great Hossa is/was before he became a Wing is just being neive to the facts. I am tickled to death that Hossa is on our squad for the playoffs, and its my hope that they can sign him after this year is over. I knew he was a good player in the limited amount that i got to watch him before joining the Wings, but since then he has really proven his worth to me as an elite player in this league. Not only as a scorer, but a great two way player. His touch around the net is unbelievable, but he's as hard a working back cheking forward as youll find. Anyone would be thrilled to have this guy on their team. As far as the playoffs, he proved his post season worthiness with last seasons strong playoff performance. Guy was off the hook and had a BIG game in our closing of the Blue Jackets.
Title: Re: how bout those ducks?
Post by: crosscobra on Apr 26, 2009, 10:41 PM
The NHL does the worst job of marketing in all of sports, but its no different then Lebron and the NBA.
 Its alright, I'm sure most wings fans said Hossa sucks until a couple of weeks ago when the playoffs started and they for the first time realized he's a wing!

never i thought he was great with the pens and even better with the wings
Title: Re: how bout those ducks?
Post by: Cp_Sharp_Shooter on Apr 26, 2009, 11:02 PM
never i thought he was great with the pens and even better with the wings

Hossa has become one of my favorite players this year. Hes been tearin it up!
Title: Re: how bout those ducks?
Post by: The Splash on Apr 27, 2009, 12:23 AM
As for Crosby "taking liberities". Take it from someone that played travel hockey growing up. The highest skilled players get effed with so much. Of course FSN won't show it being all about the wings, but trust me it happens.  Let me poke at you inbetween the thigh pads and shin guards, get ya where the glove cuff and elbow guard meet! Let me do it for 60 minutes straight and then tell me you won't wanna kick my azz!
 As for Hossa being resigned. The wings are the NY Yankees of hockey. Free agent studs always wanna play there, thank god for the stars they have now that were drafted by the wings. For YEARS they signed high profile players for a year or traded at the deadline for them. Its hard for a team like the Pens that were for sale before Crosby, Malkin, Staal, and Fleury were DRAFTED. Key word, DRAFTED!
Title: Re: how bout those ducks?
Post by: Cp_Sharp_Shooter on Apr 27, 2009, 12:57 AM
I just have one thing to say...

Everybody hates a winner.
Title: Re: how bout those ducks?
Post by: The Splash on Apr 27, 2009, 02:05 AM
CP with the wisest words yet!
Title: Re: how bout those ducks?
Post by: Adam Bomb on Apr 27, 2009, 08:57 AM
Im not talking about poking, slashing and hacking, i was talking about a clean hockey play, a hip check. As far as the cheap shots and such, they definitely warrant attention, but a clean hip check does not call for an ensuing fight,  i dont care what league you play in or what team you root for.

As far as drafting players, i think we've done a fine job over the years. In the 70's  and 80's we were a poor team and began to rebuild. We got some pretty good players through drafting that were fixtures on our team for years to come.  Some of our drafts from the 80's and early 90's enclude Steve Yzerman, Nicholas Lidstrom, Sergei Federov, Chis Osgood, Slava Kozlov, Vladamir Konstantinov and Thomas Holmstrom to name a few. After developing a very strong core our team became more attractive to top players and we began to sign highly skilled verterans to complete our team. All the while we continued to draft and develope players as well as adding and removing veterans as needed. In doing so we've been able to maintain a high level of competitive play for many years and have continued to do so. Id say we're the model team when it comes to drafting and developing players in the minors before bringing them up to the NHL level. And further proof is our current roster. Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Hudler, Filpulla, Leino, Helm, Ericsson,  formerly Jiri Fischer are/were outstanding young Red Wings drafts.

Pittsburgh had their hay days too, starting shortly after they drafted Lemieux and later Jagr. They had a catalist for a good team and added a very strong supporting cast and went on to win a couple of Stanley Cups. That cast, was not drafted by the Pens. Larry Murphy(L.A.), Rick Toccet(Philly), Kevin Stevens(L.A.), Paul Coffee(Edmonton), Ron Francis(Hartford), Joe Mullen(St. Louis) and Tom Borrasso(Buffalo) are a few to come to mind. So lets not have the pot call the kettle black here.

The difference is our ownership and staff have a commitment to winning and a strong fan base that supports hockey. That commitment to winning has made star players want to come to Detroit and stay in Detroit for their entire carreers...even taking less pay than they could get on the open market....Can you say HOSSA!!!

As far as Crosby and Malkin, I dont dislike them, i think they are fantastic players. I just dont like the leagues marketing of them or Crosby's actions in the Malkin hit period. That and saying the Wings buy their way to victory cause thats not true either.

CP is right, no one likes a winner.
Title: Re: how bout those ducks?
Post by: Steelie Slayer on Apr 27, 2009, 07:52 PM
I'll even admit that he is a good hockey player.. What i cant stand is a whine @$$ bit** and that is exactly what crosby is. Yea the dude can play hockey, but i dont care.  He's STILL A WHINE @$$ whether he can play hockey or not.  I hope Crosby and his team get through to the wings... THen we will show crosby and everyone else who the real winner is.
Title: Re: how bout those ducks?
Post by: The Splash on Apr 27, 2009, 10:11 PM
Alright bomb, my last comment on this. Shannahan, Chelios, Hatcher, Cujo, Hasek, Schnieder, Hull, do I need to go on?!
 SS, BLAH BLAH BLAh!
Title: Re: how bout those ducks?
Post by: crosscobra on Apr 28, 2009, 06:58 AM
so we are playing the ducks! i hope that we come out 1st game with some moster hits they are beat up pretty bad
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Post by: Adam Bomb on Apr 28, 2009, 08:41 AM
You can go on if you want, it wont hurt my feelings. Any team in the league that could get those players would do it and Pit has done the same thing in the past to be succsessful as i have showcased and will do so in the future if the opportunity arises. Its not our fault the Penguins dismantled years ago and have been in the gutter until recently. If you read my post i never said we didnt sign or trade for high profile players, im just saying we have had an aweful lot of great young pics that have had a big impact on our team during the same time frame. And of all the vets you have on that list there is only 2 that were on our team the last 2 years. And one of those players has had a very limited role in that time frame...and, the other has been gone all season long.

The Pens have 4 great young drafts and if you think for one second they wont go after high profile players to make their team better your sorely mistaken. Remember who signed Hossa at the deadline last year...Hmmm trying to stack the deck in their favor!!!

And as far as draft pics are concerned, look at each teams current lineup and tell me which team has the most and better draft pics if you really wanna compare apples to apples. Its the Wings hands down!