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MFF US Northeast => New Hampshire => Topic started by: porkpiehat on Aug 10, 2017, 12:09 PM
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thought I'd break out the vexilar and try some jigging this weekend...Does this technique work on the other Laker lakes like it does winni?
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I have not jigged for them anywhere except winni, but I would imagine it would work just as well elsewhere. A friend of mine who grew up in the middle of Maine swears by it, and refuses to troll for them.
Let us know how it goes
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I love doing it on the Quabbin, a Sebile Vibra has been working for me lately...
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I spent a decent amount of time doing just that this spring/summer. I had fair results but the biggest issue I had was drifting. The second you start to drift you loose the jig on the flasher which gets annoying. I anchored and even just the little swing you get from being on the hook can be enough to loose the jig. When I kept the jig on the screen, results were good. Maybe you can figure something out that I didn't. I think that "anchor mode" on the new Minn Kota's would be pretty slick for this.
As far as actually fish activity, I found that roughly the same jigs that work though the ice worked for me in the boat however the fish were less aggressive and less likely to chase any distance.
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I have done it with the anchor mode on Baitbuckets boat and it is great! That said a sea anchor goes a long way to slowing down most drifts and for a lot less money...
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yeah the one time I tried this last year the wind had me all over the place. I have caught them "accidentally jigging" with my leadcore hanging at a dead stop
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has to be completely flat, no wind for me. my boats too tall and the cabin catches the wind. i do it late august into the fall near spawning grounds trying not to jig in more tha 50 foot of water. if your drifting about a half mile an hour or more ive done well hand line jigging with lead core and suttons, short leader and you can feel the tip of the lead core just touching the bottom, its kinda inbetween a troll and a jig and used to be done on lake willoughby in vt, killer sometimes on sebago spring and fall. this doesnt work as well with a rod and you pile leadcore on the boat floor and pay it out or bring it in as needed to get that light tap tap sensation in your hand of the lead just touching the sand and you want a sandy bottom to avoid snags. i have not seen another boat do this in 20 years
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that's interesting you do this with spoons? I was told to stick to the deep holes in August/Sept.
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that's interesting you do this with spoons? I was told to stick to the deep holes in August/Sept.
i fish out of an eastern lobster boat full cabin, its a giant sail in any wind so deep jigging is almost impossible. when the spawn starts to move in they stage up higher in the water column
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Is "fishlessman" a take on Game of Thrones (the faceless man)?
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I have done it with the anchor mode on Baitbuckets boat and it is great! That said a sea anchor goes a long way to slowing down most drifts and for a lot less money...
I the bucket w/holes comparable to a sea anchor?
think I'm heading up tomorrow. I know the holes at the mouth of Alton are good. At least the traffic should be minimal.
I've lost two full days of fishing to t-storm forecasts. Winds still look pretty low tomorrow morning if anyone is game.
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buckets with holes help, but a sea anchor is MUCH better...
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sea anchor is way better. still wouldnt count off the dropoffs, i fished an edge of a steep dropoff last weekend and the salmon and togue were sticking to water between 35 and 45 feet deep right against the edge in 35 to 45 vfoot water, the dropoff was 12 down to 80 foot depth. this was on sebago though
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Tried it once, too much drift. Just landed about a dozen 4 days ago trolling winni. Half of them came on leadcore at 6 colors, rest on the riggers. Biggest one came on lc 5.5lbs. don't always have to go deep. Cloudy and showers helped.
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has to be completely flat, no wind for me. my boats too tall and the cabin catches the wind. i do it late august into the fall near spawning grounds trying not to jig in more tha 50 foot of water. if your drifting about a half mile an hour or more ive done well hand line jigging with lead core and suttons, short leader and you can feel the tip of the lead core just touching the bottom, its kinda inbetween a troll and a jig and used to be done on lake willoughby in vt, killer sometimes on sebago spring and fall. this doesnt work as well with a rod and you pile leadcore on the boat floor and pay it out or bring it in as needed to get that light tap tap sensation in your hand of the lead just touching the sand and you want a sandy bottom to avoid snags. i have not seen another boat do this in 20 years
Tried this on Mousam yesterday. Only bite of the day and it was a 5lb laker. Unfortunately I lost half of my leadcore trying to detangle the rats nest on the floor of my boat. copper and orange wobbler with a little worm!
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I think it was about 2pm, approx 70-74 fow. Cloudy and a little windy.
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I think it was about 2pm, approx 70-74 fow. Cloudy and a little windy.
what i try to do is put the rod in the holder and pay enough line out where i can feel it ticking bottom, then put about 1.5 to 2 colors on the floor. feel a hit and yank quickly on the line to set the hook. toss the line overboard and reel quickly with the rod. i believe i read years ago that the original owner of this site would put the line out and troll tight circles to get the lead core more vertical. i dont go real deep, 45 to 50 is good but prefer to keep it less, but whatever works
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I should have reeled it in but went into instinct and handlined it like a tip-up. The new super lead core sinks well but kinks easily and causes more snags
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has to be completely flat, no wind for me. my boats too tall and the cabin catches the wind. i do it late august into the fall near spawning grounds trying not to jig in more tha 50 foot of water. if your drifting about a half mile an hour or more ive done well hand line jigging with lead core and suttons, short leader and you can feel the tip of the lead core just touching the bottom, its kinda inbetween a troll and a jig and used to be done on lake willoughby in vt, killer sometimes on sebago spring and fall. this doesnt work as well with a rod and you pile leadcore on the boat floor and pay it out or bring it in as needed to get that light tap tap sensation in your hand of the lead just touching the sand and you want a sandy bottom to avoid snags. i have not seen another boat do this in 20 years
Thanks for sharing thats pretty cool!
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I went out to Winni on Saturday. On the water by 8:30 (technical difficulties) and hunted the deep holes between Black point and Sleepers and not a bite. Didn't really even find these big stacks of lakers on my sonar. Either they take off at 9am or my Sonar isn't so good at depth. Also I found my Humminbird Ice 35 is useless in this situation. I promised my buddy tons of fish because I always strike out when he's with me haha
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I went out to Winni on Saturday. On the water by 8:30 (technical difficulties) and hunted the deep holes between Black point and Sleepers and not a bite. Didn't really even find these big stacks of lakers on my sonar. Either they take off at 9am or my Sonar isn't so good at depth. Also I found my Humminbird Ice 35 is useless in this situation. I promised my buddy tons of fish because I always strike out when he's with me haha
Make sure your frequency is not set too low and maybe adjust the gain up a bit. When I have mine set at 200hz and the gain up it will mark the jig and lakers chasing it pretty good.
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Make sure your frequency is not set too low and maybe adjust the gain up a bit. When I have mine set at 200hz and the gain up it will mark the jig and lakers chasing it pretty good.
I think the flasher might be broken. As soon as I turn up the gain so that anything appears I get so much static that nothing stays on the screen for more than a milisecond. So many lines everywhere and nothing specific is being tracked as moving. I can't think of a better way to describe it...like an old TV. This is with no drift. The sonarphone/tbox would freak out past 120 ft and show me at zero feet. At less depth it showed a consistent solid line at exactly 100 feet, almost like a thermocline.
My boat came with a Humminbird Matrix 27 which won't power up but probably just needs a fuse or a connection checked. That might be a better solution for deeper water. I am concerned about the flasher though. Same thing happened after charging the battery and at 60 fow the next day.
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I use the normal graph not the flasher mode on my Garmin.
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I think the flasher might be broken. As soon as I turn up the gain so that anything appears I get so much static that nothing stays on the screen for more than a milisecond. So many lines everywhere and nothing specific is being tracked as moving. I can't think of a better way to describe it...like an old TV. This is with no drift. The sonarphone/tbox would freak out past 120 ft and show me at zero feet. At less depth it showed a consistent solid line at exactly 100 feet, almost like a thermocline.
My boat came with a Humminbird Matrix 27 which won't power up but probably just needs a fuse or a connection checked. That might be a better solution for deeper water. I am concerned about the flasher though. Same thing happened after charging the battery and at 60 fow the next day.
Are you running the sonarphone and the humminbird ice at the same time? I know if I run the dual frequency mode on my garmin my buddies Ice 35 goes haywire and shows a bunch of interference lines if we're fishing close by through the ice.
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I remember thinking it might be interference. The noise reduction button did nothing. I remember thinking about turning off the t-box to check but not sure if I did it.
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I have a sonar phone setup myself...got it for free when they were beta testing it. Never used it.
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I have mixed feelings on it. The performance and connection can get wonky if the battery drops below half; When we got beyond 120 ft it completely freaks out and shows me at zero ft. When it works I like it. especially the easy interface and integration with navionics on my phone. I like not having to drill holes in my boat :)
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with regard to jigging lures, I've been using Daddy Mac albie and minnow lures with no bites. I'm afraid they may be to large but it's what a guide and a buddy recommend and they both hook up. Also a copper pimple and a blue and silver pimple, sizewise in between the two.
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with regard to jigging lures, I've been using Daddy Mac albie and minnow lures with no bites. I'm afraid they may be to large but it's what a guide and a buddy recommend and they both hook up. Also a copper pimple and a blue and silver pimple, sizewise in between the two.
have had luck with the daddy macs in blue and bone white but in sebago
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Those daddy mac lures will definitely work on winni. Not sure what size your using, but I don't think they can be too big. I believe the guide your referencing also recommended these to me last year, and I now own a bunch of them.
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??? Always concerned about the mortality rate of late summer lakers released after being dragged from 100 feet of cold water into 70 degree surface water. Anyone have any biological information?? Lake Superior studies indicate 15% mortality but it might be different for Winni?
Dick
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I don't have anything "official" but judging by the number of times I have had Lakers follow a lure all the way back to the boat, even with warm water, I don't think it is a big concern.
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I think jigging for them gives them a much better chance then if they were caught trolling. I usually see them head back down on the finder when I'm jigging for them. Doesn't matter when you catch a fish if you poke a hole in it, and stress it out, it may die.
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I think jigging for them gives them a much better chance then if they were caught trolling. I usually see them head back down on the finder when I'm jigging for them. Doesn't matter when you catch a fish if you poke a hole in it, and stress it out, it may die.
X2. Pulling one going 2mph in warm water most always kills them and sends them directly to my smoker.
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Always thought of lakers as super boney fish? Anyone good at removing bones before I fry them in my Butter Flavored Crisco??
Dick
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Always thought of lakers as super boney fish? Anyone good at removing bones before I fry them in my Butter Flavored Crisco??
Dick
Personally never been a fan of lakers on my plate. Maybe I didn't bleed then quick enough and toss them on ice quick enough or prepare them properly.
But then maybe they're called mudhens for a reason. ;D
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In my experience, eating Lakers is very hit or miss, one is great, the next, not so much. Now, if I keep one, it is given away...
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::) Still haven't gotten myself to eat a Lake Champlain Lake Trout. The flesh is a bright yellow color. Found a you tube video showing how to fillet them and it looks as complicated as doing pike?
Dick
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::) Still haven't gotten myself to eat a Lake Champlain Lake Trout. The flesh is a bright yellow color. Found a you tube video showing how to fillet them and it looks as complicated as doing pike?
Dick
They are the same as filleting a trout or salmon. No need to look for a Y bone.
In my experience lakers that that been caught in a mainly smelt fed lake are okay. Lakers from an alewife fed lake are not very good.
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They are the same as filleting a trout or salmon. No need to look for a Y bone.
In my experience lakers that that been caught in a mainly smelt fed lake are okay. Lakers from an alewife fed lake are not very good.
Agreed wholeheartedly. I've also found that fish closer to the legal length limit (smaller lakers) tend to taste much better than their larger counterparts imho.
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That said, if a larger laker bellies up on me I'm not afraid to make poor mans lobster out of em, but I prefer to let the bigger guys go if I can.
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Going back to lake trout filleting video? They show "pin bones" just above the lateral line and , on a big trout or salmon, they look pretty big?
Seems that that you have to pull them out with needle nose pliers or special bone removing too that chefs use.
I don't like picking bones while I eat fish!!
Dick
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Dick,
If you're not too concerned about having a single piece you can usually follow "pin bones" with your filet knife on either side and either end up with a v shaped single filet or two smaller pieces from each side of the fish. To hell with pickin each one of em out individually.
Cheers,
Keith
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;D Keith, I've decided to return to my favorite coastal fish? Swordfish fillets?
Dick
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Haha
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;D Keith, I've decided to return to my favorite coastal fish? Swordfish fillets?
Dick
Ill be trolling for those in 2 months!!!
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Suggestion for those who have had little success with enjoying the taste of lakers... I like to smoke them and soak them milk before going into the brine. Seems to make a big difference. For Xmas one year I bought pin-bone pliers for all members in the house that don't like dealing with bones in what I cook. :)
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Suggestion for those who have had little success with enjoying the taste of lakers... I like to smoke them and soak them milk before going into the brine. Seems to make a big difference. For Xmas one year I bought pin-bone pliers for all members in the house that don't like dealing with bones in what I cook. :)
Thanks, Just found pin bone pliers on Ebay. Tired of having every member of my family show me every tiny bone from my fillets?
Dick
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Ill be trolling for those in 2 months!!!
How much per pound dropped off in Littleton??
Dick
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How much per pound dropped off in Littleton??
Dick
Im sure we can work something out! My checked bag is a cooler if that means anything! Ill be going out of Venice Louisiana.
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I use the normal graph not the flasher mode on my Garmin.
what model do you have? I just bought the Striker 4cv with 300 watts...hoping it is strong enough for deep fish on the bottom :)
Thanks :)
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Echo 550c