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Title: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: CLAMFARMER on Oct 19, 2014, 04:35 AM
"Meteorologists say it may well be setting the state up for a winter with above normal temperatures and normal to near normal precipitation.....“This will not diminish the snow potential in Maine,” Nouhan said. “We just won’t get much in the way of deep, cold air masses like last year.”

As far as that snow potential looks, Nouhan said northern Maine could expect to be near the annual winter average of 150-inches of snow with the Bangor area getting a bit more than its typical 75-inches.

“We are looking at prior years with similar characteristics,” Nouhan said. “This particular winter looks like we are in for a low-end El Nino, and a lot of our forecast perimeters are based on what part of the El Nino cycle we are in, [and] based on that, this winter forecast makes a lot of sense.”

http://bangordailynews.com/2014/10/18/news/state/bundle-up-jet-stream-shaping-maines-winter-to-be-near-normal-to-the-north-colder-to-the-south/
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: CLAMFARMER on Oct 19, 2014, 04:38 AM
Meanwhile, Back at The Old Farmer Almanac....

"Basing its own forecast on centuries-old climate models and formulas, the Old Farmer’s Almanac is calling for a colder than normal winter but near or below normal snowfalls for the region.

“We are predicting for the northeast things to be colder than normal this winter, similar to last year,” Sarah Perreault, senior associate editor at the New Hampshire-based publication, said. “But we are seeing below normal snowfall. There is still going to be snow, but not like last year.”

Citing an 80-percent accuracy rate, Perreault said the Old Farmer’s Almanac still uses the same weather forecasting process used when it was first published in 1792."
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: CLAMFARMER on Oct 19, 2014, 04:38 AM
Place your bets!
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: deerhunter on Oct 19, 2014, 06:36 AM
we don't really know. it is what it is. I could do with less snowfall.
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: Raquettedacker on Oct 19, 2014, 08:48 AM
Having snow showers here right now....      ;D
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: 44 Degrees North on Oct 19, 2014, 12:13 PM
That naughty talk belongs in the Ice Shanty ;D
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: 44 Degrees North on Oct 19, 2014, 12:16 PM
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Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: TightLinesMaine on Oct 19, 2014, 10:41 PM
please no more polar vortexes
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: Mac Attack on Oct 20, 2014, 06:24 AM
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Where was that taken and when?
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: CLAMFARMER on Oct 20, 2014, 04:18 PM

Where was that taken and when?

I think that was Northern Maine a couple days ago. Melted right off! Almost seventy the next day.  ;D
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: 44 Degrees North on Oct 20, 2014, 04:51 PM
Where and when, no idea, something floating around the web. Notice the roofs have a very shallow pitch. Seems to me if they got that snowfall regularly they would have a 12-12 pitch on those buildings.
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: CLAMFARMER on Oct 21, 2014, 07:24 AM
Latest:
Accuweather, "Cold air will surge into the Northeast in late November, but the brunt of the season will hold off until January and February. The polar vortex, the culprit responsible for several days of below-zero temperatures last year, will slip down into the region from time to time, delivering blasts of arctic air.....“I think, primarily, we’ll see that happening in mid-January into February but again, it’s not going to be the same type of situation as we saw last year, not as persistent,” AccuWeather.com Expert Long-Range Forecaster Paul Pastelok said.” http://www.salon.com/2014/10/15/bad_news_america_the_polar_vortex_is_coming_back/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
That naughty talk belongs in the Ice Shanty ;D
I'll head over there as soon as my frog pond locks up.  You can log this in “Naughty” under “Foreplay" ;D
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: CLAMFARMER on Oct 21, 2014, 10:13 AM
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Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: CLAMFARMER on Oct 21, 2014, 03:53 PM
I think I’ll have a pretty strong reading by mid-Feb. Should be fun! ;D :w00t: :thumbup_smilie:

Accuweather:" Cold Northeast, Interior Mid-Atlantic to Yield Snowy Winter Season
After record-shattering temperatures and high snow totals last winter in the Northeast, a similar theme will continue into the 2014-2015 season.
Cold air will surge into the Northeast in late November, but the brunt of the season will hold off until January and February. The polar vortex, the culprit responsible for several days of below-zero temperatures last year, will slip down into the region from time to time, delivering blasts of arctic air."I think, primarily, we'll see that happening in mid-January into February but again, it's not going to be the same type of situation as we saw last year, not as persistent," AccuWeather.com Expert Long-Range Forecaster Paul Pastelok said.”

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Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: 44 Degrees North on Oct 22, 2014, 01:38 AM
Give up clamming, you have a future in meteorology. ;D
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: Jamison1 on Apr 02, 2015, 05:48 PM
someone dropped the ball on this prediction!! lol
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: jacksmelt on Apr 02, 2015, 06:22 PM
you think! lol!
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: GasBlaster on Apr 02, 2015, 06:53 PM
Lol not even close . I love old posts like this .
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: TightLinesMaine on Apr 02, 2015, 07:08 PM
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Wow that map is totally wrong for the northeast lol
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: Jamison1 on Apr 03, 2015, 03:08 PM
I was going to join anyways but then I saw this post and was like now I gotta join! lol can someone be right just once?! haha ???
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: 44 Degrees North on Apr 03, 2015, 06:31 PM
Give up clamming, you have a future in meteorology. ;D
I guess looking back on that post you had better stick to clams and farming. Funny how things come back to bite ya.
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: GasBlaster on Apr 19, 2015, 12:02 PM
I guess looking back on that post you had better stick to clams and farming. Funny how things come back to bite ya.

Lol
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: deerhunter on Apr 19, 2015, 07:13 PM
howed that work out , clammie?
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: Mr.Harry on Apr 20, 2015, 11:43 AM
The Almanac was WAYyyy off for this last winter. No snow in January and February, was the prediction.
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: CLAMFARMER on Apr 21, 2015, 06:42 PM
I guess looking back on that post you had better stick to clams and farming. Funny how things come back to bite ya.

NO Bite. We got smacked here in the NE, due to consistent jet stream. Most of the rest of the  US and the planet were above average.

I know you guys won’t bother to read the data, so here it is.... ;D  

It’s easy to point at stuff you prefer, until you read the data. I DARE ya!

Quote from: GasBlaster on Apr 18, 2015, 11:48 AM
How about 1850s 1750s and before that . all warmer then now  ?  What were we doing back then to heat it up . the world is millions of years old . you can't just compare to the last 50 years and cry disaster .  I have browsed your Facebook page and its clear there is no hope for you . left wing nut job coolade drinker . other then the politics you seem to be a cool guy so let's just leave politics out of our relationship and talk fishing

Fortunately or unfortunately, I HAVE to go by data to form a buttressed opinion. I DO NOT start with opinion and look for stuff to back it up. Just like catching as opposed to fishing.  ;D :icefish:

I happen to believe in science and verifying the data. Nearly all the denier stuff comes from limited sources, is largely debunked yet still pointed to because they know YOU don’t know it has been debunked.

For example: "The test in science is whether findings can be replicated using different data and methods. More than two dozen reconstructions, using various statistical methods and combinations of proxy records, have supported the broad consensus shown in the original 1998 hockey-stick graph, with variations in how flat the pre-20th century "shaft" appears.[1] The 2007 IPCC Fourth Assessment Report cited 14 reconstructions, 10 of which covered 1,000 years or longer, to support its strengthened conclusion that it was likely that Northern Hemisphere temperatures during the 20th century were the highest in at least the past 1,300 years.[16]”  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record_of_the_past_1000_years

This is one of my favs  ;) http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0730/Prominent-climate-change-denier-now-admits-he-was-wrong-video
"“Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I’m now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.”  

And:
"Numerical experiments have been carried out with a two-dimensional sector averaged global climate model with a detailed radiative scheme in order to assess the possible impact of solar and volcanic activities on the Earth’s surface temperature at the secular time scale from 1700 to 1992. Our results indicate that while the general trend of the observed temperature variations on the century time scale can be generated in response to both the solar and volcanic forcings, these are clearly not sufficient to explain the observed 20th century warming and more specifically the warming trend which started at the beginning of the 1970s. However, the lack of volcanism during the period 1925–1960 could account, at least partly, for the observed warming trend in this period. Finally, while Schlesinger and Ramankutty (1994) assumed that random forcing could not be a possible source of the 65–70 year oscillation they detected in the global climate system, our results indicate that the volcanic forcing over the past 150 years could have introduced an oscillation of around 70 years in the Earth’s surface temperature.” http://www.fs.usda.gov/ccrc/library/biblio/1849

And:
“Conclusion: If no other large sources of carbon emissions exist or occur in the future, the peaking of crude oil, natural gas, coal and deforestation/non-fossil-fuels emissions (due to the peaking of population growth) will keep carbon emissions from rising to extremely high values, barring massive releases of methane from the ocean and arctic permafrost (see Appendix 3) or other unknown slow or future-triggered positive-feedback mechanisms. The resulting peak of CO2 concentration will occur at about 2100 at about 450 ppmv with a leveling off at about 380 ppmv for the next several hundred years or so.”
http://www.roperld.com/science/GlobalWarmingPrediction.htm

Reality is not politics until someone don’t like it. Yeah, Let’s stick to fishing.  ;D :thumbsup: ;)2

Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: CLAMFARMER on Apr 21, 2015, 06:48 PM
A Great Quote! : Go vote for Hillery and leave me alone . PIN HEADED LIBERAL MORON ..


Is a PIN HEADED MORON more likely to have a studied background for an opinion or to resort to name calling.  :-\ 8) ;D  :w00t: :rotflol:

See if you can reply with peer reviewed published scientific study. Fact check it before you post it.  :thumbup_smilie: :flag:

NO PICS = NO FISH  ;)
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: 44 Degrees North on Apr 22, 2015, 12:39 AM
Easssy. Didn't mean to step on anybodies toes. Just having a little fun. My apologies. 44
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: GasBlaster on Apr 22, 2015, 05:34 AM
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Yep caused by man your right .
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: GasBlaster on Apr 22, 2015, 05:47 AM
http://www.petitionproject.org/ (http://www.petitionproject.org/)


https://m.facebook.com/joe.porada (https://m.facebook.com/joe.porada)
Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: Wolley on Apr 22, 2015, 11:19 AM
looking back at last winter now i would say it was average except for February's snow fall.

December was above normal for temps. The ice really didnt setup good until the 1st of the year

January was cold, but not much snow.

Title: Re: Warm Winter Coming.....
Post by: CLAMFARMER on Apr 22, 2015, 06:12 PM
http://www.petitionproject.org/ (http://www.petitionproject.org/)

HAHAHA! The Freaking Spice Girls are one of the “ Scientists”. Very few actual climate people are on there, but there are dentists!  8)

"No evidence has ever been offered to support the first statement, and the second statement is in flat contradiction with the scientists who study climate change. There are also valid issues regarding the methodology:

The organisers have never revealed how many people they canvassed (so the response rate is unknown) nor have they revealed the sampling methodology, an ironic omission considering how much fuss is made about scientists being candid and making public their methods and data.
The petition is, in terms of climate change science, rather out of date.
In the professional field of climate science, the consensus is unequivocal: human activities are causing climate change and additional anthropogenic CO2 may cause great disruption to the climate.

32,000 Sounds Like A Lot
In fact, OISM signatories represent a tiny fraction (~0.3%) of all US science graduates (petition cards were only sent to individuals within the U.S)

According to figures from the US Department of Education Digest of Education Statistics: 2008, 10.6 million science graduates have gained qualifications consistent with the OISM polling criteria since the 1970-71 school year. 32,000 out of 10 million is not a very compelling figure, but a tiny minority - approximately 0.3 per cent.

There are many issues casting doubt on the validity of this petition. On investigation, attempts to undermine the scientific consensus on climate change often appear to have ideological roots, vested business interests or political sponsors. The claims made for the OISM petition do not withstand objective scrutiny, and the assertions made in the petition are not supported by evidence, data or scientific research.”
https://www.skepticalscience.com/OISM-Petition-Project.htm

https://m.facebook.com/joe.porada (https://m.facebook.com/joe.porada)

Come visit anytime!  ;D :thumbup_smilie: :flag: