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MFF US Northeast => New York => Topic started by: percher on Jan 23, 2010, 04:42 AM
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Fished out of Severne yesterday, picked up 10 and our second boat ended up with around 25. Had 3 real nice ones, small plastics, a few on meal worms on a drop shot. Ours came north of the launch in about 21 ft of water. Beautiful day, quite a few boats there and everyone was getting them
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Sounds Like fun!! Problem is , my boat is in the backyard in 3' of snow!!! ??? :cookoo: :cursing:--KP
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I know Seneca doesn't freeze over. But what about the ramps and launches how do you get your boat in and out? Are they not covered in ice and snow.
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I know Seneca doesn't freeze over. But what about the ramps and launches how do you get your boat in and out? Are they not covered in ice and snow.
Wellsley,
No problem at the launch, I know guys who have been fishing since October. Severne has a nice launch with ribbed cement ramps. You just have to pick your days and dress for it. Some guys hve those small propane heaters that work well.
percher
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Severne is a good spot for trolling for lakers. I've been there in the summer. My hats off to anyone that fishes Seneca in the winter there can be some tough conditions. I hope the state keeps the road down to the launch clear. I think I'd try to put in at Lodi. I've caught some nice perch off the point at Lodi(in the summer) Good Luck with the perching.
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fish seneca last sat, it was way to cold till around 11:oo. Could not keep the rods from iceing up and no wd40 in the boat.
Started to pic away at them on the east side around sampson area. At the end of the day 32 nice fish.
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fish seneca last sat, it was way to cold till around 11:oo. Could not keep the rods from iceing up and no wd40 in the boat.
Started to pic away at them on the east side around sampson area. At the end of the day 32 nice fish.
Hey Trucken,
When our guides did ice up we just dip them in the lake. Does the wd keep the eyes from freezing up?
Sounds like you did well. We fished last Friday and the temps were the same. A friend went over yesterday and he and his partner got limits. I pullled the boat in the garage today so maybe next week I can get it wet.
Percher
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Hey percher
WD does the trick we use it at the niagara river if its in the teens or low 20,s .
One thing different though my perch rigs have much smaller eyes and the fire line seemed to be a little stickey.
Our line was breaking at our blood knot way to much in the morning. I prob wont be there for a few weeks due to onedia being so good.
Good luck
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My perch partner and I fished out of Severne today and picked up around 30 keepers and several smalls that we released back. 4 other boats were out and some trout trollers. All came in 20 FOW.
Weather was a little cold but hardly any wind until late in the afternoon when the north winds came in.
Percher
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Really want to fish one of these lakes for hog perch...anyone have a good suggestion for starters, never fished the finger lakes...
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anyone ever catch perch off of the pier by the ramada in geneva ?
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anyone ever catch perch off of the pier by the ramada in geneva ?
I have heard of perch being caught from the pier but most are caught from boats.
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Really want to fish one of these lakes for hog perch...anyone have a good suggestion for starters, never fished the finger lakes...
Start at Roy's Marina about 2 miles south on Rt 14 of Geneva. Not the best launch, but pay the $6.00 and talk to the owners Larry & Roz. They are super nice people and will give you some good and current information. They also have a decent amount of the right tackle to get you started. There is good fishing for perch right in their bay - Glass Factory - and it's as good a place as any to start.
Go with light line 4-6lb test, but not necessarily a light action rod. These fish are caught as deep as 100' sometimes and most often between 20-50'. Heavy weights are used to get down fast and an ultalight rod just doesn't give you the sensitivity you need with heavier weight. I use medium & sometimes medium light action rods.
If you are lucky and get a calm day, cruise around along the drop or in the deepest water you can see bottom in. You will eventually see what your after. Probably won't catch too many of them, but it will get you fired up. These are uncommonly spooky fish, so give others plenty of room, whether you are just scouting or looking to pull up and anchor.
This is a tough lake to fish!!!! Don't get discouraged, but you need to put your time in.
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Start at Roy's Marina about 2 miles south of Geneva on Route 14. Not the best launch, but pay the $6.00 and talk to the owners Larry & Roz. They are super nice people and will give you some good and current information. They also have a decent amount of the right tackle to get you started. There is good fishing for perch right in their bay - Glass Factory - and it's as good a place as any to start.
Go with light line 4-6lb test, but not necessarily a light action rod. These fish are caught as deep as 100' sometimes and most often between 20-50'. Heavy weights are used to get down fast and an ultalight rod just doesn't give you the sensitivity you need with heavier weight. I use medium & sometimes medium light action rods.
If you are lucky and get a calm day, cruise around along the drop or in the deepest water you can see bottom in. You will eventually see what your after. Probably won't catch too many of them, but it will get you fired up. These are uncommonly spooky fish, so give others plenty of room, whether you are just scouting or looking to pull up and anchor.
This is a tough lake to fish!!!! Don't get discouraged, but you need to put your time in.
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Really want to fish one of these lakes for hog perch...anyone have a good suggestion for starters, never fished the finger lakes...
My suggestion would be find someone who has already fished it a few times or your going to get VERY frustrated, the perch can be very hard to target and even harder to catch with any consistency. Don't get me wrong maybe your really good and you'll have no problem but, I've been after them for more than 10 years and still have some BAD days on Seneca Lake.
Good Luck,
Steve
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My perch partner and I fished out of Severne today and picked up around 30 keepers and several smalls that we released back. 4 other boats were out and some trout trollers. All came in 20 FOW.
Weather was a little cold but hardly any wind until late in the afternoon when the north winds came in.
Percher looking to go in march oneida lake is over to bad..jigs or drop shot....thks
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My perch partner and I fished out of Severne today and picked up around 30 keepers and several smalls that we released back. 4 other boats were out and some trout trollers. All came in 20 FOW.
Weather was a little cold but hardly any wind until late in the afternoon when the north winds came in.
Percher
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spray your line with reel magic, i think its called, guys use it steelhead fishing in winter. spray it right on the line and have no problems with the eyelets freezing up
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Start at Roy's Marina about 2 miles south on Rt 14 of Geneva. Not the best launch, but pay the $6.00 and talk to the owners Larry & Roz. They are super nice people and will give you some good and current information. They also have a decent amount of the right tackle to get you started. There is good fishing for perch right in their bay - Glass Factory - and it's as good a place as any to start.
Go with light line 4-6lb test, but not necessarily a light action rod. These fish are caught as deep as 100' sometimes and most often between 20-50'. Heavy weights are used to get down fast and an ultalight rod just doesn't give you the sensitivity you need with heavier weight. I use medium & sometimes medium light action rods.
If you are lucky and get a calm day, cruise around along the drop or in the deepest water you can see bottom in. You will eventually see what your after. Probably won't catch too many of them, but it will get you fired up. These are uncommonly spooky fish, so give others plenty of room, whether you are just scouting or looking to pull up and anchor.
This is a tough lake to fish!!!! Don't get discouraged, but you need to put your time in.
Thanks for the info, definitely sounds challenging!
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My suggestion would be find someone who has already fished it a few times or your going to get VERY frustrated, the perch can be very hard to target and even harder to catch with any consistency. Don't get me wrong maybe your really good and you'll have no problem but, I've been after them for more than 10 years and still have some BAD days on Seneca Lake.
Good Luck,
Steve
Talked to few people, but don't know anyone that has fished down there regularly...sounds like a challenge, maybe on a nice day I'll make the trip down there with my LUND to explore...Thanks
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Anyone been out on Seneca. I have the boat ready. My wife just had our first child 6 days ago. I hope to get away for a few hours now and then . just wondering if anybody is doing any good. I am not looking for your spot just would like to know if they are hitting. I am not going to get to make many trips over there. It would be nice to know if anyone is catching them before I drive the 2 hrs. Thanks for you're help.
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Anyone been out on Seneca. I have the boat ready. My wife just had our first child 6 days ago. I hope to get away for a few hours now and then . just wondering if anybody is doing any good. I am not looking for your spot just would like to know if they are hitting. I am not going to get to make many trips over there. It would be nice to know if anyone is catching them before I drive the 2 hrs. Thanks for you're help.
Will be on the lake tomorrow and hope to get into them, launching out of Severne and heading north. I'll report on the outcome later
Tight Lines,
Steve
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I have heard of perch being caught from the pier but most are caught from boats.
thaks for the info only thing i have ever caught off the pier have been basss pike and pickeral and a few bullhead
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Anybody have input on a good charter service for April perch on Seneca?
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launched from Roys yesterday and fished sunset bay...lots of boats and all the locals said they were killing them the day before but couldnt buy a bite today. fished w/ fatheads and spikes but next time i'll be using sliders on a 1/4 ounce jig head...didnt catch a single perch >:(
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launched from Roys yesterday and fished sunset bay...lots of boats and all the locals said they were killing them the day before but couldnt buy a bite today. fished w/ fatheads and spikes but next time i'll be using sliders on a 1/4 ounce jig head...didnt catch a single perch >:(
The "locals" hope your not talking about Roy's. There ALWAYS killing them thats a selling point for bait. Keep at it you'll find them sooner or later and be rewarded with a few pigs
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not at all...roy's is great the owners were so friendly and gave some great advice i just meant i talked to a couple locals who said the day before they were killing them but nobody was catching any that day...i believe there are some good ones there and i'll put in my time before i expect to be rewarded
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not at all...roy's is great the owners were so friendly and gave some great advice i just meant i talked to a couple locals who said the day before they were killing them but nobody was catching any that day...i believe there are some good ones there and i'll put in my time before i expect to be rewarded
They're always killing them the day before. That's a Seneca Lake given. But to be fair to Larry & Roz (the owner's of Roy's) I don't believe he just gives good reports for the sake of selling bait. He has told me plenty of times nothing much was going on and likewise he has put me in the general area of fish lots of times too. It's a big lake, to say they're getting them in front of the Pink Cottage can be accurate but still leaves a lot of water to explore.
I will also add this, there are a handful of locals that go out of Roy's that almost always are on fish and they could very well be the ones that "killed them". To anyone starting to fish on Seneca for perch I have to repeat myself. Don't get discouraged. You will probably have more bad days than good. I fished 8 hours with my very skilled partner Saturday and we got 1 perch and one smallie (I know, I Know I can hear all the jokes already). That's the nature of Seneca.
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I'm hoping to get back to seneca this weekend i'd love to fish it sat and sun but the weather isnt looking too good and i'm only in a 14 footer so maybe the following weekend anyone been doing good on the perch?
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Got a report from some friends who were on Seneca today and they said it was slow, only got about 20 but had a couple over 2lbs.
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Got a report from some friends who were on Seneca today and they said it was slow, only got about 20 but had a couple over 2lbs.
friends fished out of sampson today nothing going on fished them hard but they have been catching fish seneca is a tough lake to fish and the locals are hush hush on where there picking them up lot of searching and more arguements out there if you dont use ur ethics very serious fisherman on our lake sometimes a little more than i like but to each there own so if u see boats dont storm in or u will hear it the perch are spooky and can blow the day if u bang the anchor or anything ill see you all out there good luck
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Fished Seneca today. Tough day, found some fish but nothing schooled up. Caught 12 perch (2 of us) and just couldn't seem to get it going. Also got 5 nice smallies, so between what we caught and what we missed enough activity to keep it interestiing. Beats falling through the ice. Caught them all on plastics - swirl tail minnows and slider grubs of various colors. Fish were shallower than I usually get them this time, 15-20 fow. A lot of debris and crap in the water. Water temp 39 degrees.
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Great job, Kingfisher. Where did did you catch them and what make/model of rod do you use for catching these fish?
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Kingfisher,
We also use swirltail minnows and sliders, both work great. If you ever need any pumpkinseed swirltails drop me a line, I had a few thousand made up and have been supplying guys with them. Thursday is looking good so far for Seneca and I might try and get on the water again. We useally fish out of Severne and have done well so far there this year.
Percher
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Great job, Kingfisher. Where did did you catch them and what make/model of rod do you use for catching these fish?
Thanks, but I'm not so sure 12 constitutes a great job. It's a start and enough to make me want to go back for more, but nothing to write home about yet. I got them on Seneca, I don't want to come across as a jerk, but I won't divulge specific locations. I caught them in 15-20 fow. A few we caught fairly close to the boat and parallel to the drop with the depthfinder reading 17' so I'm guessing they were all around that depth. No bladders were popping out of their mouths so they weren't too deep.
I make my own rods, but I use a lot of Cabela's blanks. This was a 6'6" Fish Eagle II heavy action blank. I mentioned before I use heavier than normal action rods so they don't go mushy with big weights (up to 1oz, sometimes more). Helps to maintain sensitivity with a lot of weight and wind. I also think a lot of manufacturers call their rods a little heavier than what I actually feel is a heavy action.
Went again today by myself and only caught 3 in the same area. Nice fish though, of the 15 we caught in 2 days not one was under 12" and one was just shy of 14" If I can figure out how to post pics, I will start posting some. Fish I cleaned today had snails in them. Yesterday I noticed some spit up zebra mussels. No wonder I can't catch them.
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Kingfisher,
We also use swirltail minnows and sliders, both work great. If you ever need any pumpkinseed swirltails drop me a line, I had a few thousand made up and have been supplying guys with them. Thursday is looking good so far for Seneca and I might try and get on the water again. We useally fish out of Severne and have done well so far there this year.
Percher
Thanks for the offer, I'm pretty well stocked myself. I bought a bunch of both lures in bulk, way cheaper than buying them at the tackle store. I've been thinking of trying Severne, but all the east wind lately has kept me away.
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Going to try either Seneca or Keuka on thursday, any New reports about either??
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this may sound ignorant to a bunch of you, but what is a slider?
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this may sound ignorant to a bunch of you, but what is a slider?
Look up" Charlie Brewer's crappie slider grub"
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Thanks,
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When you guys are fishing plastics and doing well, are you riggin them with a standard jig head and fishing it right on the bottom or are you running some sort of drop shot rig?
Seems the Plastics frequently out fish bait on Seneca, so I was thinking of trying the same on Cayuga where bait is usually the preferred offering.
Thanks
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When you guys are fishing plastics and doing well, are you riggin them with a standard jig head and fishing it right on the bottom or are you running some sort of drop shot rig?
Seems the Plastics frequently out fish bait on Seneca, so I was thinking of trying the same on Cayuga where bait is usually the preferred offering.
Thanks
I had the same question, along with if you are using a jig/darter head what are some good colors? This is all I ask I will put my time in a find the fish. Thanks
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I had the same question, along with if you are using a jig/darter head what are some good colors? This is all I ask I will put my time in a find the fish. Thanks
I like a 1/16th to 1/8th jig head (preferably a stand up or chub jig style but ball heads are fine) and the plastic colors need to be different shades of greens and/or browns. Something that immitates an oak leaf grub.
Brewers crappie Sliders in Avacado glitter have been hot for years and still are. Maki Plastic "Stonies" in green or brown are killers on Seneca as well ! One of my all time favorites is a small 1 1/2 tapered grub body in motor oil glitter on a 1/16 oz jig head or rigged on # 6 or 8 hooks on a dropper with a pencil sinker on the bottom.
One word of advice for catchijng Seneca Lake perch. DON'T JIG.......DRAG....SLOWLY ON THE BOTTOM !!
GF
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When you guys are fishing plastics and doing well, are you riggin them with a standard jig head and fishing it right on the bottom or are you running some sort of drop shot rig?
Seems the Plastics frequently out fish bait on Seneca, so I was thinking of trying the same on Cayuga where bait is usually the preferred offering.
Thanks
Drop shot. Usually 2 lures about 16" apart anywhere from 12"-24" above the sinker. I usually put the slider on a 1/32 oz jig head and attach them to the main line with a short dropper loop like you use ice fishing.
Don't know if it really makes a difference, but when you get into fish, I find it is a lot easier & faster to get the hook out. When it's cold I can use forceps and pinch the head with out taking my gloves off. Also saves chewing up the plastic.
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ive been having good luck with pumpkin , camo brewers sliders
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I have heard of perch being caught from the pier but most are caught from boats.
thanks for info ,won't waste my time trying ,i have caught pike bass,pickerel and bullheads from pier ,was just wondering about perch !!!!
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I like a 1/16th to 1/8th jig head (preferably a stand up or chub jig style but ball heads are fine) and the plastic colors need to be different shades of greens and/or browns. Something that immitates an oak leaf grub.
Brewers crappie Sliders in Avacado glitter have been hot for years and still are. Maki Plastic "Stonies" in green or brown are killers on Seneca as well ! One of my all time favorites is a small 1 1/2 tapered grub body in motor oil glitter on a 1/16 oz jig head or rigged on # 6 or 8 hooks on a dropper with a pencil sinker on the bottom.
One word of advice for catchijng Seneca Lake perch. DON'T JIG.......DRAG....SLOWLY ON THE BOTTOM !!
GF
Great info. I can tell from the detail you know what's up. Never fished Seneca for perch but might give it a try one of these days. I am only a couple miles from Onedia so it's hard to justify the drive.
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Great info. I can tell from the detail you know what's up. Never fished Seneca for perch but might give it a try one of these days. I am only a couple miles from Onedia so it's hard to justify the drive.
I hear ya on the drive with Oneida having the quality perch that it does ! I'm in the same boat. I love Oneida ! Best inland multi specie fishery in North America !
Only reason I go to Seneca these days is for the challenge and/or to take others out who've never fished it or who've struggled in their attemps to catch the big perch there. The draw of catching a 2 lb perch in 70 ft of water still gets my attention ;D ;D
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Going to try either Seneca or Keuka on thursday, any New reports about either??
We fished Keuka today out of Branchport and managed 46 perch with 4 Jumbos. Got them all on plastics, sliders, swirltail minnows and oak leaf grubs. Found a few nice schools on the camera and the weather was great.
Good luck
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new to this do they get big perch off shore at Indian Pines Park in keuka in the spring or do you need a boat.
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I also was wondering if anyone knows of a stream I can take my Grandson and smelt keuka.cant smelt Owasco anymore everywhere is off limits
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I like a 1/16th to 1/8th jig head (preferably a stand up or chub jig style but ball heads are fine) and the plastic colors need to be different shades of greens and/or browns. Something that immitates an oak leaf grub.
Brewers crappie Sliders in Avacado glitter have been hot for years and still are. Maki Plastic "Stonies" in green or brown are killers on Seneca as well ! One of my all time favorites is a small 1 1/2 tapered grub body in motor oil glitter on a 1/16 oz jig head or rigged on # 6 or 8 hooks on a dropper with a pencil sinker on the bottom.
One word of advice for catchijng Seneca Lake perch. DON'T JIG.......DRAG....SLOWLY ON THE BOTTOM !!
GF
Gammafish you are exactly right with the colors and technique , motor oil and slow, also find weeds, drag through very slowly, when you feel the weeds pause for a couple seconds I like to use just 1/8 ounce jig with a big fathead
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I also was wondering if anyone knows of a stream I can take my Grandson and smelt keuka.cant smelt Owasco anymore everywhere is off limits
Mindgamer,
We use to get smelt at the creek between the motel and Urbana launch in Hammondsport where it runs into the lake.
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Dropper loop:
http://www.netknots.com/html/dropper_loop.html
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seneca is the hardest perch lake ive ever fished! i can ever get on the d**n things in hat lake anymore. i use to catch them all the time 15yrs ago but not anymore
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seneca is the hardest perch lake ive ever fished! i can ever get on the d**n things in hat lake anymore. i use to catch them all the time 15yrs ago but not anymore
Where's hat lake ???? you boy's been doing alittle funny stuff . Yeah it's tuff but where else do you catch 2 lb perch ???
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Anyone know where painted rock is on Seneca and if there is boat launch near by?
Thanks for any help
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Anyone know where painted rock is on Seneca and if there is boat launch near by?
Thanks for any help
It's on the east shore about 1/2 mile north of Watkins Glen. There is a big American Flag along with some other grafitti painted on the shale cliffs. There is boat launch right there in Watkins Glen, I used it years ago, but don't remember exactly how to get to it.
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i do catch some perch at seneca sometimes but i have never caught a perch at painted rocks ever in about 10 outings. if anybody else does let me know
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I hear ya on the drive with Oneida having the quality perch that it does ! I'm in the same boat. I love Oneida ! Best inland multi specie fishery in North America !
Only reason I go to Seneca these days is for the challenge and/or to take others out who've never fished it or who've struggled in their attemps to catch the big perch there. The draw of catching a 2 lb perch in 70 ft of water still gets my attention ;D ;D
70ft that's crazy.
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It's on the east shore about 1/2 mile north of Watkins Glen. There is a big American Flag along with some other grafitti painted on the shale cliffs. There is boat launch right there in Watkins Glen, I used it years ago, but don't remember exactly how to get to it.
Thanks for your help appreciate it.
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70ft that's crazy.
Not only is it crazy but those big perch fight like a smallmouth when caught that deep..........at least for a few seconds ;D ;)
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Does anyone know if the smelt are running in Keuka yet they are in Owasco.I will see Tonight if they are in Cayuga.I was aslo wondering if they get the perch from shore now at Indian Pines Park.
Thank You
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Fished Seneca from sunrise to 1:00pm. Same thing, a few fish, then nothing. Caught 8 perch-all on plastics in about 20FOW.
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Sure must have been chilly out there this morning. Glad to see you caught some. Where are you fishing tomorrow?
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Not only is it crazy but those big perch fight like a smallmouth when caught that deep..........at least for a few seconds ;D ;)
I know what you mean about those slobs feeling like smallmouths, lots of fun plus they taste alot better.I read your post about rigging , thanks, I think i might try it.
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Fished Seneca from sunrise to 1:00pm. Same thing, a few fish, then nothing. Caught 8 perch-all on plastics in about 20FOW.
I'm going to start calling you "The Seneca Lake Diehard", Keep digging you'll find 'em!! Take care!--KP :)
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I know what you mean about those slobs feeling like smallmouths, lots of fun plus they taste alot better.I read your post about rigging , thanks, I think i might try it.
No problem ! Just trying to help out where I can !
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I'm going to start calling you "The Seneca Lake Diehard", Keep digging you'll find 'em!! Take care!--KP :)
After today I'm about ready to pull my boat home. At some point I have to smarten up and get practical...I'm 5 minutes from the boat launch on Oneida yet I continue to drive an hour and 1/2 each way to get my butt kicked.
Caught 1 perch today (almost one - when I swung her in the boat my line broke)
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wow kingfisher... 5 minutes.... its not like Oneida is some chump perch lake. I like fishing Seneca also but I get skunked more often then not. Do they get crappie out of that lake ?
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wow kingfisher... 5 minutes.... its not like Oneida is some chump perch lake. I like fishing Seneca also but I get skunked more often then not. Do they get crappie out of that lake ?
Yep, live right off Lakeshore but I love those Seneca Perch! I get just enough great days to keep me addicted. Besides bass, it's probaly my favorite type of fishing. I put Seneca (actually all the Finger Lakes perch) in its own category of fishing.
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I don't know about the crappie. I've never caught one there. My friend told me years ago he got into some really big crappie while looking for perch in Dresden. I don't why it wouldn't, being connected to the Seneca River, but then again you never hear anything about walleyes in the lake either.
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Wheres all the reports, or is everyone fishing the crappies now, Come on Perch fiherpersons have any new reports
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Going Friday for possibly last time this year...or not. I'll give a report then.
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Hit up Keuka today. Caught a few dozen perch with maybe a dozen of them between 8 and 10 inches. None bigger. Most perch caught were 7 inchers and looked to be chubby little females. Didn't keep any. Went out of Penn Yan. That current is ripping in the outlet.
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Four of us fished Canandaigua lake yesterday, with only one perch caught between all of us. ??? Water was so clear that you could see bottom at 40' - Unbelievable. Marked no schools of perch anywhere.
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Fished Seneca by Sampson from 8:00am - 11:30 am. Caught 7 perch. All on plastics between 10-17FOW. Very few boats and didn't see anybody really getting many. The few boats that were out there were moving alot. Beautiful day...wish I had more time.
This was Friday 4/2
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Fished west River Friday alot of boat not many fish