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Title: White Perch in the County
Post by: Huemorin on Aug 11, 2021, 12:16 PM
If I post, I often will post about going to camp up on Square Lake as it's one of my favorite things to do.  I have been going 6-8 times a year for the last 17 years, so I have pretty much had the opportunity to catch about every species the lake holds.  When I was up there around the fourth of July a gentlemen on the lake told me he caught a white perch, I originally thought he was foolish as I had never caught a white perch out of their before.  I thought he might of mistaken it for a chub or something.  The next day trolling, I caught a White Perch about 4-5 colors down.  Since this time I have probably been out trolling a half dozen times with the most recent times being this past weekend, and I am now catching at least one it seems every time out.  What would be the reason for this?  Are they coming from Eagle or Cross Lake?  The yellow perch population has ballooned the last few years in the FRC, but I hadn't heard of the white perch until now.  Just wondering what people might think about this and how it affects the salmon and trout fishery.  I certainly don't think it's a coincidence that the salmon and trout fishing has seemed to slow a bit for me my last handful of times out.  Tight Lines.
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: JDK on Aug 11, 2021, 01:39 PM
If you are only catching one per time, consider yourself lucky.

Last time I fished Square I had 10.  Talked to an acquaintance who said he stopped fishing there because he was catching so many.

Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: Steve H. on Aug 11, 2021, 02:17 PM
Perch spread like the plague.  Followed by smallmouth bass.  Maybe even rock bass behind them.  Pray that you don't see those in your lifetime.
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: JDK on Aug 11, 2021, 05:03 PM
And as a friend of mine correctly says, we wanted to be like the rest of the state and successfully accomplished it. Dumbasses
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: MarkNFish on Aug 12, 2021, 01:49 PM
JDK and I caught them on Cross last winter, and they are confirmed to be in Square (as you know) and Long.  I haven't heard anything about Eagle yet but I suppose it's only a matter of time.  It's unfortunate at best. 

Maybe they can add a category for them during the ice fishing derby ::)

Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: Huemorin on Aug 13, 2021, 01:45 PM
Certainly not a good sign
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: JDK on Aug 15, 2021, 12:14 PM
My 3 year old grandson caught 17 off their dock at Cross Lake yesterday
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: sebagosalmo on Aug 22, 2021, 07:58 PM
 Been catching them on long lake for 2 years now , nothing big but it’s only a matter of time 👎🏿
Hopefully they don’t damage the smelt or brook trout population
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: woodchip1 on Aug 24, 2021, 12:39 PM
White Perch population expands so fast that people throwing back small ones which will hurt Smelt population. They compete for food. all extra White perch caught should be given to Lobster frishermen for Bait.  This also helps gives lakes a chance for Bigger White perch, even after they are filleted for Fish cakes,Lobster fishermen could still put them to good use.
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: JDK on Aug 25, 2021, 08:15 AM
Been catching them on long lake for 2 years now , nothing big but it’s only a matter of time 👎🏿
Hopefully they don’t damage the smelt or brook trout population

I believe they have been in there 4-5 years now but I have never caught any...yet.  They have exploded in Cross and Square the last few years.
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: woodchip1 on Aug 27, 2021, 07:30 PM
a fellow friend lobster fisherman  said he caught more lobsters with White perch than ever  and price was cheaper than the bait hed been buying , He said bring me more i like it>...
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: MarkNFish on Aug 30, 2021, 08:01 AM
a fellow friend lobster fisherman  said he caught more lobsters with White perch than ever  and price was cheaper than the bait hed been buying , He said bring me more i like it>...
Unfortunately, there aren't many lobster fishermen in Aroostook County.
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: woodchip1 on Aug 30, 2021, 06:11 PM
Put the salt to every layer in Pails and seal they will last a long time.
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: jacksmelt on Sep 10, 2021, 08:25 AM
last 3 yrs been getting them off shore at the cross lake boat launch. i do with them what i do with yellows. keep the big ones and chuck the small ones in the bushes. friend of ours been getting them at his camp on froid. very sad. as if we didnt have enough issues with the yellows and hornpout. if theyre in froid im sure theyre in eagle by now. mattter of time they will find their way down to the st. john where at least there they will be eaten by the bass and muskie.
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: Scalloper on Sep 29, 2021, 04:05 AM
I caught a white perch in the thoroughfare near the bridge by Long so they are surly in Long also. I am putting my money on some dumb ass bucket bio putting them in Cross as thats where the first ones I herd of in that area.
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: mudchuck on Sep 29, 2021, 07:42 AM
If those lakes are anything like what we experienced up here in the Lake Champlain area, well, get ready because WP are voracious and grow quick.
About 12 years ago we experienced a massive build up of WP in LC and it's only been the last couple of ice fishing seasons where there appears to be a decline in their population being noticed by many that ice fish in known congregation locations like St. Albans bay.
Many pulled them thru the ice by the 100's of pounds, sometimes seeing upwards of 300# caught by some.
They also follow the wally's up the river during pre-spawn & spawn and eat the eggs which is not good.
During the summer, they're being caught by salmon trollers as a by-catch and it's a nuisance.
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: filetandrelease on Sep 29, 2021, 09:00 AM

 Same here in upstate New York they can take over smaller bodies of water
   And they are super aggressive
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: jacksmelt on Oct 04, 2021, 07:07 PM
I caught a white perch in the thoroughfare near the bridge by Long so they are surly in Long also. I am putting my money on some dumb ass bucket bio putting them in Cross as thats where the first ones I herd of in that area.
i guy me and Matt know has a camp in sinclair cove and gets many big ones off his dock the last couple summers. suprised we didnt get any last spring. Juelles St. peter told me he knows some guys catching them by the bucket fulls in there on a regular basis.
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: JDK on Oct 05, 2021, 09:33 AM
I caught a white perch in the thoroughfare near the bridge by Long so they are surly in Long also. I am putting my money on some dumb ass bucket bio putting them in Cross as thats where the first ones I herd of in that area.

I initially thought that they were put there intentionally and then sort of gravitated to... they were in someone's bait bucket and were dumped inadvertently.  I'm now leaning towards they were put in the FRC intentionally. 

No one will ever convince me that we don't have bucket biologists on this site....  Be it downstate or up here.
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: teampar on Oct 05, 2021, 01:18 PM
I initially thought that they were put there intentionally and then sort of gravitated to... they were in someone's bait bucket and were dumped inadvertently.  I'm now leaning towards they were put in the FRC intentionally. 

No one will ever convince me that we don't have bucket biologists on this site....  Be it downstate or up here.

After what I have seen this year I would have to agree with you.
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: gamefisher on Oct 05, 2021, 05:37 PM
I initially thought that they were put there intentionally and then sort of gravitated to... they were in someone's bait bucket and were dumped inadvertently.  I'm now leaning towards they were put in the FRC intentionally. 

No one will ever convince me that we don't have bucket biologists on this site....  Be it downstate or up here.

After what I have seen this year I would have to agree with you.

I'm not sure if you guys get the me.gov reports like I do but I see a couple guys from the County were just charged with illegally importing fish up there, not sure if related to the perch problem or something else.   Environmental terrorism is everywhere sadly,  you guys aren't immune even in Gods country.
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: Smallmouth Squarepants on Oct 06, 2021, 07:14 AM
I'm not sure if you guys get the me.gov reports like I do but I see a couple guys from the County were just charged with illegally importing fish up there, not sure if related to the perch problem or something else.   Environmental terrorism is everywhere sadly,  you guys aren't immune even in Gods country.
That was the one about the people importing channel cats for a private pond (that could outflow to Eagle), correct?

Stuff is getting absolutely bat-ish crazy now. I caught a largemouth by Weldon a couple of weeks back. I have never caught a largie out of the Penobscot, even though we all knew it was gonna happen since they got into Pushaw, but to catch one that far up was definitely unsettling. Obviously the pike are more of a concern but still, we need to get a clamp on this stuff. And I say that as a bass angler. Penobscot smallies are what got me hooked on fishing and I can only imagine how the pike and lmb are going to effect the pretty great smallmouth fishery, not to mention the dwindling (in the main stem) Trout and Salmon populations.
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: Steve H. on Oct 06, 2021, 12:49 PM
I have never caught a largie out of the Penobscot, even though we all knew it was gonna happen since they got into Pushaw, but to catch one that far up was definitely unsettling.

Caught one in Howland this past August, above the dam.
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: jacksmelt on Oct 14, 2021, 07:05 AM
pike in the penobscot? i expected to hear the muskie got in there as Baker l has tribs connecting to it but hadent heard pike were in there.
Title: Re: White Perch in the County
Post by: Smallmouth Squarepants on Oct 28, 2021, 02:45 PM
Yep, they've been in Pushaw for (at least) the past 10-20 years now. At first IFW was netting and electrofishing Pushaw Stream, but they've all but given up now. No barriers are between there besides a dam on the lake outflow (that freely allows fish travel over it and through the fishway) that I've caught pike on both sides of and one set of rapids that I've also caught pike on both sides of.