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Well another Spring is upon us and the Steelhead Fishing is going to get Hot and heavy soon! Some of you may have fished all winter and some of you are just making it up now for the first time this year. Either way it's been another great season so far. Share some of your most recent trips with the rest of us! THANKS! I'll try to give you updated water and fishing reports as often as I can! New to a computer, but not to fishing for Salmon and Steelies ( 29 years on the tribs)! Now that it is September, it's time for some Monster rod breaking KINGS, Reel stripping COHO'S, beautiful BROWNS, and of Course lightning fast Jumping STEELIES again! HOPE EVERYONE HAS A SPECTACULAR SEASON!
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im thinking about waiting till next winter to hit up the big SR.
my car isnt in quite the traveling shape and its kinda limiting me to the overcrowded burt. >:(
this is when the outta towners start coming up from PA with there snagging rods and and size 1/0 hooks tryign to snag steelhead!
save it for the fall i say!
steelies are the pride and joy of the LO and LE tribs there beautiful fish i dont want all your giant hooks in there sides and bellys it ruins the picture!
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Right now there doing real well on maribu jiggs, beads, and pink worms wacky style under a float up here in Altmar. Heard good reports of fresh chromers getting hooked on spawn sacs and the bead rigs under floats down in the lower end of the river. Your going to miss out on what could be our best spring in years after this long winter. My handle is just an old nickname! ;D ;D
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i wasnt mad about that i just hate them guys from all over the east coast that think they know how to fish hahaha
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heres one i got last thursday at burt it was 12 pounds even on a pink marabou and a gold jig head i tied myself :o
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Really Nice Fish, where's your head, your buddies take pictures like mine. Atleast now we have digital cam's and you can correct them. The best colors just before this cold snap was black maribu with metalic pink head. Also your jig question 2 for $3 sounds about right! Last week if you had a bunch of the right color you could have named your price on the river banks!
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thanks. i have one of my head the fish jsut looks horendous so i went with the better pic of the fish!
i would say taht fish was in there a while.
and where can i buy some of those colored jig heads. i cant find then in dicks or gander. or my local fly tying shop imt hinking i have to go online somewhere.
but them steelies sure do love pink and not many people use it around here.
just me from what ive seen and im out 3 to 4 times a week
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thanks. i have one of my head the fish jsut looks horendous so i went with the better pic of the fish!
i would say taht fish was in there a while.
and where can i buy some of those colored jig heads. i cant find then in dicks or gander. or my local fly tying shop imt hinking i have to go online somewhere.
but them steelies sure do love pink and not many people use it around here.
just me from what ive seen and im out 3 to 4 times a week
We bought silver plated jig heads at All Seasons Sports in pulaski and used a pink permanent marker.
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thats how u do it!!!
never even thought about that.
do u ever use chartreuse up there on the SR?
i see a lot of people use it at burt i like purple and pink.
and white when the water is stained with a strand or two of black in it
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oh and about naming my price!
me and my buddy were the only 2 there!
i caught 15 that day and he got 7 he was using a purple with a silver head.
do u tip your marabou's with waxies?
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oh and about naming my price!
me and my buddy were the only 2 there!
i caught 15 that day and he got 7 he was using a purple with a silver head.
do u tip your marabou's with waxies?
No never tried waxies, about the price I meant the salmon river. My buddy was wacking them and all the bead and spawn guys wanted one of them that day. Chartreuse is a good egg sac color on certain days.
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i agree it seems like chartreuse egg sacs work extremely well at burt and all the erie tribs but thats about the extent of chartreuse. i like using white and pink sacs filled with delicious brownie eggs
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Hey Shane, The Mayor is listening to you so watch out.
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Hey Shane, The Mayor is listening to you so watch out.
Been ice fishing 2-3 days a week at oneida, I hear the river just got good again up in altmar. Some of them new fish have showed up finally! The boats did real good bottom bouncing the schoolhouse yesterday.
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I been to the SR before for kings but never for steelies i would looooooove to get out there soon to try it but i dont fly fish.....what is the best way to fish for them with just spinning tackle??
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u can fish for steelies just about anyway just make sure you have a longer rod.
them short rods dont seem to work as well for me when fighting the fish.
i have a 12 foot light action steelhead adv. rod from Gander and i love it!
i usually use 6 pound vanish for 4 pound 100% berkley flouro.
can use mono unless you use a leader.
my fav. is jigs!
and Snagger thanks for the permanent marker tip i tied up some with hot pink jig head.
im going hopefully Sunday down to burt.
ill let ya know how i do!
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With the river going up, should ignite a good bite under floats this weekend if it does'nt get too crowded from the warm weather coming. I'll be thinking you guys when I'm sitting on Oneida!
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With the river going up, should ignite a good bite under floats this weekend if it does'nt get too crowded from the warm weather coming. I'll be thinking you guys when I'm sitting on Oneida!
it's me snagger lke the post see on sunday. fish on let me now how you and me sister do at oneida.
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Hey Shane, The Mayor is listening to you so watch out.
where would you recommend fishing for steelhead in April?
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River update:[/b]
Over the weekend the guys did pretty good on jigs under floats between schoolhouse and the next long hole below the 2nd wires. Starting to pick a few up on pink sacs in the runs. A couple nice browns were landed over the weekend too! River still ok after all that monster rain we got, Orwell and trout brook are wide open and flowing good. No ice left, but not flooding either(snowpack absorbed alot of the rain)!
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hey i finally made here !!!! the fishing on the river was good this week should only get better with the high water i hope it goes up some more the fish should really like the floats with the "killer bead" under it .
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You finally made it over here, but you found the wrong thread! This is a STEELHEAD thread not SHEAPSHEAD!
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thanks buddy it's nice to feel loved!!!
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thanks buddy it's nice to feel loved!!!
Are you fishing the river tomorrow in the boat, I'm going to try to get on Oneida without getting myself killed for some late season perch & waldo's!
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We bought silver plated jig heads at All Seasons Sports in pulaski and used a pink permanent marker.
O.K. SNAGGER I moved from the hardwater site, Now please get me on the steelies. LOL ;D--KingPerch
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O.K. SNAGGER I moved from the hardwater site, Now please get me on the steelies. LOL ;D--KingPerch
Schoolhouse hole in altmar they are getting them on the bead rig and black maribu jigs under floats. I had a guy from the lodge up in the fly zone yesterday who said he crushed them! Plain worms or pink power worm under a float in the hole below the second set of wires has been good too. Creeks still too cold from snowmelt for any real amount of fish yet!
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creeks over here in the west all blown the freak out! :'(
and i just got fired from my job for a b.s. reason!
me and my shift manager got blamed for vandalism and we were no where near the store when it happened matter of fact i live in lockport!
we were on our way to cheektowaga to cheek out a erie trib to see if it was fishable!
messed up stuff right
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Sorry to here about your job, so far are creeks are high, but not blown out, still got snow!
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Schoolhouse hole in altmar they are getting them on the bead rig and black maribu jigs under floats. I had a guy from the lodge up in the fly zone yesterday who said he crushed them! Plain worms or pink power worm under a float in the hole below the second set of wires has been good too. Creeks still too cold from snowmelt for any real amount of fish yet!
Thanks for the update, I'll be giving you a call soon, I recieved your PM, Thanks :)--KingPerch
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Hey Snagger Jersey Dave is here now. Give me a call and let me know who the people I know are. Who is the mayor? What is the time line for the creeks to check off and warm up a bit. Looks like I can make it up there around March 23rd or March 27th what do you think would be better? Also did you order my new 10 weight yet? I will be thinking about you guys when I am down in Florida for the next five days playin 36 holes a day in the sun. FISH ON FELLAS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Can anyone recommend a good guide for steelhead or browns in the river? Looking for shore fishing or a drift boat. A website would be great.
Thanks.
Dan
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Snagger put the guy lookin 4 a guide in touch with mark do you need a lodge to stay at too buddy
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Can anyone recommend a good guide for steelhead or browns in the river? Looking for shore fishing or a drift boat. A website would be great.
Thanks.
Dan
Hey Dan, give snagger a call or email he can put you in touch we me if you want to go and give some time frame i am starting to fill up i am well known on the river thanks MARK
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Snagger put the guy lookin 4 a guide in touch with mark do you need a lodge to stay at too buddy
Hey Dave thanks for looking out for me talk to you soon Snagger must be in bed or drying off from dodging holes in the ice he was out all day i think
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No problem mark didn't know that was u I just got on this site today how's things the creeks ready yet
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No problem mark didn't know that was u I just got on this site today how's things the creeks ready yet
Hey dave I'm still ice fishing, but 37 degree rain and snowmelt is not a good combo for major runs in the creeks. Sure a few will trickle in but it's got to get warmer before anything major happens in the eastern basin!Could be a different story out west!
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RIVER UPDATE; Just took a ride and the river is up a little more(1800 cfs plus runoff) Getting hard for the bank angler to find fishable water but there's some left up here in altmar. Looks like good float fishing water from ellis cove up to schoolhouse hole. Orwell creek is bank full but not flooding( not really that dirty) There's bare spots starting to show in the fields finally after all this rain. Maybe NORTHWOODS will post how the fishing was today, as there's not many people in the area to talk too!The big Sandies must be pretty high today!
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Northwoods you got a website address that I can check out?
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RIVER UPDATE: She's now running a little off color, which means the water temp will be a little bit colder due to snowmelt for a few days til the next warm up. A friend of mine was down there most of the day. Til noon it was real slow, but had 7 on and landed 1, from noon til 4 pm. River still at 1800 and Orwell creek is still high , but dropping fast!
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Northwoods you got a website address that I can check out?
sorry i don't yet it is in the works
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i will be on the river tomorrow and try to see if i could find were they are living 1800 is my favorite flow going to try your new thing snagger !!! plugs are coming out !!! can't wait for the first crack down i'll try to get some video
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Hey Northwoods did you fish the river today?, I was on the ice!
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Northwoods you got a website address that I can check out?
WWW.SALMONRIVERGUIDE.COM
He's on here as Gottum. Most highly recommended guide in Pulaski!!
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WWW.SALMONRIVERGUIDE.COM
He's on here as Gottum. Most highly recommended guide in Pulaski!!
I used to have a close friend of mine who recently past away( I miss that old boy) who used to fish with gottem.He really enjoyed fishing with gottem.There are alot of guides on this river, I know a handful of very good ones! I personally don't know him that well, but I know he likes to take alot of pictures! Do your research from past clients from different guides and I'm sure you will find a good one! GOOD LUCK dwatkus!
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Weekend River Update: With the water running high and cold, hook up numbers were lower than of late, unless you were on a boat. I talked to a few guides who said float fishing was spotty, but good. One of my friend's said there's some fish spawning in the back diversions of the main river now with this strong March sun. Same as winter, best times the fish have been biting is 10am til 4pm, the warmest part of the day. when the water temp warms up a little, they will start biting better towards daybreak! Heard there starting to get a few in orwell and the big Sandie's. Still got some guys out there, will give another update soon! FISH ON! ;D ;D snagger ;D ;D
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Looks like Warmer weather is on the way! I saw 50 degree days for the next few days. Good by Ice; hello River. Sure is great fishing the River for the 1st time in spring with just a light sweat shirt, no gloves and plenty of feeling in the extremeties & Sinking in mudholes up to your waist....LOL....Look forward to it!
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go get um they are there!!!!
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fished the river sat. did'nt land any only had 2 bites one on a plug and one on the bead not a lot of room in top end and the water below pineville was cranking made a fast ride down but the water should be drawing the fish in. GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY!!!
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I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR ALL OF YOU STEELHEADERS OUT THERE! What is your favorite flourocarbon leader brand and what is your favorite main line brand? Mine is drennen leader and maxima ultra green main line! WHAT IS YOURS! Had good luck with P-line flouroice (flouro-coated) for leader ice fishing!
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I went steelheading for the first time ever on Saturday. the River was running fast and high!
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Got my first steelhead ever. Thanks to the two locals who helped me learn the fine art of steelhead fishing!
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NICE FISH! Looks like your fishing the diversion across from ballpark in the pulaski! GOOD JOB, there's really big water down there!
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River update: Over the weekend the guys did pretty good on jigs under floats between schoolhouse and the next long hole below the 2nd wires. Starting to pick a few up on pink sacs in the runs. A couple nice browns were landed over the weekend too! River still ok after all that monster rain we got, Orwell and trout brook are wide open and flowing good. No ice left, but not flooding either(snowpack absorbed alot of the rain)!
Snagger , Thanks for all the great tips, pink you say, I can remember when purple was the color of choice. My friend Jimmy for years had me tying purple flies by the hundreds. Over the years I've used pink with some success but on your advice or should I say recommendation I'm going to sit down & tie a couple hundred pinks to make sure I have enough. Oh , I just remembered my friend Lil Dave has used pink egg mesh flies for yrs with great success. He also caught lots of Browns near the town pool using them this past season. I'm also going to tie some RICOFEALIA CADDIS in pink, plus some Pink jigs to fish under a float on my brand new float rod. Hope to see at the Schoolhouse & Toms Run. YOURS TRUELY, THE MAYOR
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i posted this in another topic (http://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/index.php?topic=24766.0 (http://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/index.php?topic=24766.0)) before i saw this one but now my question is refined. any starting locations for a first time spinning gear steelhead fisherman and a nearly first time fisherman on the salmon river? it doesn't need to be your secret spot but some place that is relatively easy to get to and has a decent chance of catching some fish.
thanks
fishman
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I went steelheading for the first time ever on Saturday. the River was running fast and high!
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Got my first steelhead ever. Thanks to the two locals who helped me learn the fine art of steelhead fishing!
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Congrats Roy. Got a fish on your first trip, can't beat that. Good fighters, aint they?
Bart
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i posted this in another topic (http://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/index.php?topic=24766.0 (http://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/index.php?topic=24766.0)) before i saw this one but now my question is refined. any starting locations for a first time spinning gear steelhead fisherman and a nearly first time fisherman on the salmon river? it doesn't need to be your secret spot but some place that is relatively easy to get to and has a decent chance of catching some fish.
thanks
fishman
This is the Salmon River, There's no secret spots, Just area's that get fished less than others! During early salmon runs there can be isolated hot spots from time to time, but this time of year there's two ways to fish the river. Either up at the top of the river in the altmar area Or the bottom of the river in Pulaski! Right now the river is high, so it would be easier for some one new to fish in Altmar, because the river has a little less water and it is wider. Park at the bridge and walk down stream about 1/6 of a mile to the schoolhouse hole area. There should be some fisherman willing to help a new guy out! 3 inch pink berkley power trout worms, Egg sac's or half a night crawler under a bobber and 4lb line Should get you into a couple! HOPE THIS HELPS! The great fishing is yet to come! Water still very cold!
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Hey MAYOR when you coming back up here. The first batch of snowmelt has gone thru the system, until the next batch, have a short window when the strong march sun will heat up the slate on North Sandy. Should be steelie paradise up there in all the runs below Woodville brige next couple of days. I'll be on Oneida, but in the old days I'd be up there wacking some monsters on pink and white sacks before it gets off color again! South Sandy probably been too cold to get many fish above Firehouse, but farmers field area looks good, til tug hill releases some more melt!
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Snagger , Thanks for all the great tips, pink you say, I can remember when purple was the color of choice. My friend Jimmy for years had me tying purple flies by the hundreds. Over the years I've used pink with some success but on your advice or should I say recommendation I'm going to sit down & tie a couple hundred pinks to make sure I have enough. Oh , I just remembered my friend Lil Dave has used pink egg mesh flies for yrs with great success. He also caught lots of Browns near the town pool using them this past season. I'm also going to tie some RICOFEALIA CADDIS in pink, plus some Pink jigs to fish under a float on my brand new float rod. Hope to see at the Schoolhouse & Toms Run. YOURS TRUELY, THE MAYOR
Snagger, So where are your ice fishing hot spots on oneida lake ? Especially the giant perch locations. Save me a few perch for dinner , I have a good recipe for you. THE MAYOR P.S.- HOW DID YOU DO YESTERDAY ?
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This is the Salmon River, There's no secret spots, Just area's that get fished less than others! During early salmon runs there can be isolated hot spots from time to time, but this time of year there's two ways to fish the river. Either up at the top of the river in the altmar area Or the bottom of the river in Pulaski! Right now the river is high, so it would be easier for some one new to fish in Altmar, because the river has a little less water and it is wider. Park at the bridge and walk down stream about 1/6 of a mile to the schoolhouse hole area. There should be some fisherman willing to help a new guy out! 3 inch pink berkley power trout worms, Egg sac's or half a night crawler under a bobber and 4lb line Should get you into a couple! HOPE THIS HELPS! The great fishing is yet to come! Water still very cold!
the bridge on Bridge Street/CT RT 52 (which forks into 52 and Tar Hill Rd)?
thanks,
oh, and is it actually walking on the side of river or do you mean wading (if so, how deep), don't mater much except only one pair full (stomach/chest height) waders and one pair of hip-waders for me and my dad
oh, and another thing. i heard that some people put canoes in in the lower reservoir but didn't know if it is actually allowed, i think they talked about putting in at the NE end inbetween the stream inlet and dam/powerhouse thing inlet (looked at google maps for location description). said they not only could fish for trout but also fish for crappie. don't know if this is actually true though
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Hey MAYOR when you coming back up here. The first batch of snowmelt has gone thru the system, until the next batch, have a short window when the strong march sun will heat up the slate on North Sandy. Should be steelie paradise up there in all the runs below Woodville brige next couple of days. I'll be on Oneida, but in the old days I'd be up there wacking some monsters on pink and white sacks before it gets off color again! South Sandy probably been too cold to get many fish above Firehouse, but farmers field area looks good, til tug hill releases some more melt!
Snagger, What was the total snow accumulation this winter...The Mayor
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the bridge on Bridge Street/CT RT 52 (which forks into 52 and Tar Hill Rd)?
thanks,
oh, and is it actually walking on the side of river or do you mean wading (if so, how deep), don't mater much except only one pair full (stomach/chest height) waders and one pair of hip-waders for me and my dad
oh, and another thing. i heard that some people put canoes in in the lower reservoir but didn't know if it is actually allowed, i think they talked about putting in at the NE end inbetween the stream inlet and dam/powerhouse thing inlet (looked at google maps for location description). said they not only could fish for trout but also fish for crappie. don't know if this is actually true though
Ct Rt 52(bridge street) cross the bridge, parking on the left or you can park at tar hill junction and walk across field. I've fished the schoolhouse without any boots at all before, but hippers would be fine in that hole, anywhere else going to need waders! The lower res. has rainbows,rock bass,bullhead, and stunted perch/gills/largies. If there's good crappie fishing, there not talking. I've caught a few, nothing major!
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Snagger, So where are your ice fishing hot spots on oneida lake ? Especially the giant perch locations. Save me a few perch for dinner , I have a good recipe for you. THE MAYOR P.S.- HOW DID YOU DO YESTERDAY ?
Where's Oneida lake? SSSSSSHHHHHHH!! At last count redfield was up to about 360 inches, about same as last year! Lots of melt left for South Sandy! Just starting to see the ground around altmar last couple of days!
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Where's Oneida lake? SSSSSSHHHHHHH!! At last count redfield was up to about 360 inches, about same as last year! Lots of melt left for South Sandy! Just starting to see the ground around altmar last couple of days!
Snagger, Oh I forgot you've been ice fishing at the lower res for the giant perch. Do me a favor and let me know when North & South Muscle Shell Creek are ready. Don't exactly know when I'm coming up, I have a Dr's appt. Fri & another one on Mon. Have to wait & see what they say, but I do feel much better. THE MAYOR
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River Update: Winter conditions still rule the river even though the air is warming. Most my guys are out west, but did have a guy staying here yesterday land a 38 inch, 20.1 lb. male steelhead out of the school house pool. Took him 25 minutes to land it on 4 lb. line. He said fishing was just average with only a few other fish on and not many bank fisherman, but quite a few boats went thru in the morning. The river has settled down a little to 1200-1500 cfs range. creeks are up a little since yesterday, especially the Sandies.
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just curious, how high is 1800 cfs, 1600 cfs, 1400 cfs etc. i know it is cubic feet (per) second but that really means nothing to me so i'm wondering what that actually looks like. any pics to show different levels?
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Don't know how to do pictures yet, I'm new to a computer, but 185-335 cfs is cosidered low, 385-750 is a normal late fall/winter level(great level for fishing smaller runs), 750 -1250 is the best level in upper river for a bank angler. 1250-1700 starting to get high,( but my favorite level for fishing bobbers in pools in altmar area), and after 1800 it's tuff for the bank angler. 2500-12,000 is flood stage. If you have ever been up during salmon season it runs usually between 285-385. The upper river can hold more water, after 750 lower river can get tricky( except at the DSR)! Hope this helps! Hey NORTHWOODS where have you been!
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hey Snagger, Whats your prediction for April ?
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Don't know how to do pictures yet, I'm new to a computer
thanks for the numbers, now i have a better picture of it. anyways, i found this guide to posting pics on iceshanty and am guessing it would work here as well. here it is http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=31022.0 (http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=31022.0). i haven't tried it yet cause i keep forgetting the camera but should work.
fishman
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just curious, how high is 1800 cfs, 1600 cfs, 1400 cfs etc. i know it is cubic feet (per) second but that really means nothing to me so i'm wondering what that actually looks like. any pics to show different levels?
1800 cfs. the river was actually spilling over its banks in low areas. If you got more than knee deep, you would feel your self sliding on the river bed.
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hey Snagger, Whats your prediction for April ?
With the weather pattern were in now(snows are going fast in the sun, refreezing at night) The steelies are going to start coming in the creeks from now til end of april in smaller pockets. Not in one big ball, like last year. I'm off the ice two weeks earlier than last year and no snow on my lawn, also two weeks earlier. The biggest april runs will be timed with rainfalls in the creeks. Still alot of snow for orwell,trout brooks,little,south sandies, but no snow for other creeks left! LOOKS EARLY!
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i think you might be right snagger and the best part is fishing for steelies and not freezing lol hope to catch you on the river
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Had a guy fish the river today at the schoolhouse area. He got 3 nice(4-5lb.) browns on small jigs under a float, he released them and got a couple steelie hook ups bottom bouncing also. He also noticed more boats running the river mid day instead of daybreak! Due to the recession, the river still not that crowded!
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nothing like jig fishing under a bobber!
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what size jigs do you use, and what size hooks for say, three in trout worms/egg sacks/earthworm?
thanks
fishman
oh, and thinking of going up to altmar Saturday to fish the hole behind the school so any bait shops in the town?
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There is a couple bait shops right there near the Schoolhouse Pool; You can't miss em' If your getting off at 81 there is some real nice ones, again you can't miss em'. You won't have much trouble finding bait, gear,advice, ect. around the salmon river If you stop at the Big Fat Nancy's Bait shop there is usually a guy or two there that will help you with picking out hooks ect...
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what size jigs do you use, and what size hooks for say, three in trout worms/egg sacks/earthworm?
thanks
fishman
oh, and thinking of going up to altmar Saturday to fish the hole behind the school so any bait shops in the town?
#6 or #8 quality hooks for sacs and such, 1/32,1/16,1/8 for jigs, different sizes(black marabou(1/16) with various colored heads has been good,but there's a million combinations that work) I don't want to start any tackle shop wars, but I carry the basics at my house for my guys, then I send all my customers to Jimmy Dence's place "All Season's Sports"Next to 81 for the other 90%. He's a great guy with a huge selection of gear at good prices!
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I will be up next Friday night . So far it is 2 of us,maybe three. Do you have line and hooks at the house ?
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Like snagger said get your stuff from All Seasons Sports, I do. It sure is nice walking in and being able to look around at stuff before someone jumps on you like at that car dealership mentality place called Fat Nancys. Anyways I am heading down to the river today to give it a go. Last weekend i did very well with nightcrawlers fished whole.
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#6 or #8 quality hooks for sacs and such, 1/32,1/16,1/8 for jigs, different sizes(black marabou(1/16) with various colored heads has been good,but there's a million combinations that work) I don't want to start any tackle shop wars, but I carry the basics at my house for my guys, then I send all my customers to Jimmy Dence's place "All Season's Sports"Next to 81 for the other 90%. He's a great guy with a huge selection of gear at good prices!
Snagger, I'm looking for a long lost friend of yours, ask everyone in Altmar to help you find he-haw. If he-haw doesn't come to the house tonight look up at the Altmar Hotel. The Mayor
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I go to all seasons myself, Always gotta stare at the mounts in the back for 10minutes. Just thought a guy that is looking for advice might be better off at fat nancy's. They are full of advice there...
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Anyone fly fish the fly fishing zones? With the new regs I was wondering what setup your using?
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I guess you can add split shot, they just don't want people running slinkey's and pencil lead anymore.It was confusing how they wrote the new laws! Had guys there a week ago, said fishing was pretty good in lower zone. Upper zone open's april 1st! Anything above 1150 cfs, lower zone gets tough to fish!
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Went down to the river for a couple hours and got one chrome steelhead and one brown trout, covered probably a mile of river and caught both fish out of the same spot.
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I hope the Steelies in the river get better.. I am going there next weekend for a 3 day trip..hoping to see some nice fish.
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I guess you can add split shot, they just don't want people running slinkey's and pencil lead anymore.It was confusing how they wrote the new laws! Had guys there a week ago, said fishing was pretty good in lower zone. Upper zone open's april 1st! Anything above 1150 cfs, lower zone gets tough to fish!
Snagger, any new regulations on lead, let me know, and what is the site for regulations. The Mayor
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fished the river today was kind of slow i talked to a lot of people and it sounded like the same thing we had 5 on and only landed 1 it was spawned out about an 8 pounder fished a lot of the spots that are good for me (most of the time!!) fished them all hard and not a lot of biters i think water temp has a lot to do with it !!! water is so cold when you put your hand in it hurts forget about it going numb it goes to pain!!! hopefully tomorrow is better good luck everyone GO GET UM!!
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I have fished the SR regularly for years. It seems like this year there have been more Lamprey marks than normal on the larger fish. I wonder if I am just noticing it more this season or in fact there has been an influx in Lamprey Eels?
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i think your right i noticed that myself!!!
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Alot more salmon came thru my fish cleaning station last year with marks than normal. But I hope the DEC/Canadians don't kill another 9,000 lbs of adult walleye while lampreciding our creeks again like last year!
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Snagger, any new regulations on lead, let me know, and what is the site for regulations. The Mayor
None that I know of! Same ridiculous ones as before! Don't know of a reg. site!
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Fished the evening from 2 till 5, ended up catching 4 brown trout. All on worms. I don't know if anyone else has noticed but the fight of the browns is quite sluggish, almost seems they are already worn out. Maybe it has something to do with the water temps. Needless to say they were nice fish in the 4lb to 6lb class.
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out for first time from 2:30-5:30, no luck myself but saw 3 caught, one lost, and one being carried out. all the ones i saw were nice, large steelheads. water was high and saw 6-8 trailers in the parking area (by the bridge in altmar) but didn't see any of the boats. all were gone by the time we left.
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Hey guys, im new to steelhead fishing but want to get into it. i was woundering what you guys mean by a jig under the bobber. are you talking like a kastmaster or some oher type of jig? and how far under the bobber do you run it? any info would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Like snagger said get your stuff from All Seasons Sports, I do. It sure is nice walking in and being able to look around at stuff before someone jumps on you like at that car dealership mentality place called Fat Nancys. Anyways I am heading down to the river today to give it a go. Last weekend i did very well with nightcrawlers fished whole.
Yeah, i'm afraid to fart in Fat Nancy''s, afraid someone will be right behind me right up my , well you know. The other 2 places across the street or at Dave's is where I go up there. Fat Nancy's is for tourist fishermen with platinum Amex cards. Prices are through the r oof, Whittakers and the other guys across the street have the GOODS.
cny
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Saturday report: You would have thought it was salmon Season if there wasn't still snow on the ground! Drift boats like train cars and people shoulder to shoulder in all the good runs up here in altmar.The guys at my house did get into some nice browns and steelhead(decent mid morning bite). People thinned out later, but the fishing slowed in the PM. The guys at the house were using minnows/floats, bead rigs and brown trout egg sac's! This is what happen's when you loose the ice to early and have a sunny saturday! note: the water was raised to 1500 cfs friday night!
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Hey guys, im new to steelhead fishing but want to get into it. i was woundering what you guys mean by a jig under the bobber. are you talking like a kastmaster or some oher type of jig? and how far under the bobber do you run it? any info would be appreciated. Thanks.
Marabou(lead head jigs)like bucktail jigs only smaller. keep it about foot off bottom! you'll have to adjust your float as you fish to keep it in the zone!
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thanks snagger appreciate the help.
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Snagger, any new regulations on lead, let me know, and what is the site for regulations. The Mayor
Hey Mr Mayor are you going to be up in time this year to reteach Murry how to hop through a hole this spring?
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Hey, Snagger The Moose is loose again is he there???
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Hey, Snagger The Moose is loose again is he there???
I haven't seen him or heard from him, check the Sea grape or Georgetown Saloon! Could have had too much fun last night and sleeping in his car! Well looking out my window, I can only see 1 drift boat and about dozen cars at the parking lot at the bridge.
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fished Sat. and went 2 for 6 water temp was 33degrees at 8:am bite was lite
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Yeah if you need steelheading gear or any other gear for the lakes buy in Pulaski, Altmar and Port Ontario etc. These guys know what to use because they live in the "zone indefinably". You could drive up here with a pair of jeans an a shirt and walk out completely outfitted if need be. All Seasons and Whitakers specially order larger or smaller sized waders/clothing. These shops depend on the anglers fishing the waters around here and sales tax generated from your purchases are ultimately going to help the local fisheries. Next time a state budget comes around we don't want to be trying to convince Albany not to cut stocking programs. I am not trying to slam anybody but do you think Albany cares if there are only half the salmon and steelies stocked. Gander, Dicks, Cabella's and Bass Pro don't even offer 10% of what you really need.
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fished saturday what a show people everywhere carrying tackle boxes bigger than themselves WOW!!!! stayed way behind all the other boats and fished hard ended up 4 for 7 not bad but not great white sacs seem to be the hot item only 1 on the bead nothing on the pink worm 2 weeks ago that was the only thing they would hit . it won't be long now when that water temp comes up it is going to be good you can count on that!!!! GOOD LUCK GO GET UM!!!
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I an heading up to fish Wednesday/Thursday. Staying in Mexico and fishing the Salmon River and tribs. I'll report how I do.
Seems lately I have been hearing a lot about "beads". Can some please tell me what these are?
Thanks.
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I an heading up to fish Wednesday/Thursday. Staying in Mexico and fishing the Salmon River and tribs. I'll report how I do.
Seems lately I have been hearing a lot about "beads". Can some please tell me what these are?
Thanks.
Plastic bead painted to look like eggs we've used them for years starting in Alaska , go to troutbeads.com
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use them under a float you won't be sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Hey NORTHWOODS guess what one of the guys caught yesterday out of the schoolhouse pool. A 15lb. carp and 2 northerns. He said he could see another dozen or so northerns just above the rootball. Steelhead/browns was slowwwwww in the pool yesterday. Must have been shell shocked from Saturday! I'd like to take a ride down the river sometime this week, if you get a day off! Want to try a couple things out away from the people. Give me a shout!
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ok just picked one up for tomorrow i'm going to try to put a pic on here
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hey N.W. have you been up to the north ones yet, they looked good other day ?
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ya i went riding around the other day every one of um has fish 2 of my buddies were up there today and they got some they are getting a little low today but the next warm spell should bring in the rest of them we are supposed to get rain this weekend that should do it too i hope .... keep in touch i have to catch up to you soon i haven't seen you in a long time!!!!!
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hey are you here snagger?
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hey are you here snagger?
Monday was a slow day at the schoolhouse pool area of altmar. Cold water and cold weather kept the hook ups down. Warmer weather in the forcast, but not so warm there will be a monster snowmelt event, so fishing should pick up in a couple days for the bank angler! Hook ups were better at the next long wire pool below the schoolhouse pool. hopefully creeks will get a jumpstart soon, because the river will be getting even higher eventually!
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Had to help my mom out today, and only 20 minutes from the river was just to hard to resist. I got to the river at 3pm and fished until 5pm. Everybody said the water was running at about 1400, did not seem that fast to me.
I guess I must just be lucky. I talked with 4 people as I walked down the bank, and nobody had seen a fish caught all day. So I headed to the spot I'm most familiar with to find 6 people fishing it. They also had not caught anything all day. So I found my self an open spot back up the river and started casting. On cast #7 I hooked into my first steelie, 7 pounder range. I caught the fish bouncing across the bottom with an egg imitation fly in orange. I guess all those guys were telling the truth about not catching anything, because they were standing behind me to watch a fish finally being caught.
I did not hook into another fish until 5pm and it managed to break me off. I think I should have retied after the first fish. It broke so fast I must have created a bad spot on the first fish. Most everyone else around me was fishing a float rig.
The weather was awesome this afternoon, but the fishing was slower than other times I had been up there. But it is always good to get out and cast a little.
Jeff
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Good job Flukeman,Great story! Yeah this is the change over part of the season. It's not winter anymore and it's not spring yet. River is hot once in a while and average at best most of the time for the bank angler. You hit the warmest part of the day during a cold snap. That was the key!( and your skills of course!) The one guy I had staying here only hooked 3 in 7 hours! And he usually does better. Alot of the runs around Ellis Cove and above the Trestle should be getting better with spawning going on. With the river up it's hard to reach some of these spots without a little walking, but it's worth it. It's going to be warmer next couple of days, that will help. I here the boats did good today!
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Hey Snagger I finally made it here. Saturday was ok at maxwell, but only seen running fish at Wolcott. Suckers also. Has the snow meted down yet? Are you fishing this weekend? cya wayne
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you need to know how to use a computer outdoor.... its chinger.... at the bar with j....give me a shout..... i will be on the sr next week
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i hope you dont have to pull us outta driveway again
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this is 1 of 7 we landed yesterday it was a pretty good day we had a couple more that just happened to get off before the net came out pretty soon it will be on FIRE!!!!!
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Hey Snagger I finally made it here. Saturday was ok at maxwell, but only seen running fish at Wolcott. Suckers also. Has the snow meted down yet? Are you fishing this weekend? cya wayne
I might go crappie fishing or I might go to North Sandy steelheading. I'll let the weather decide for me! Hey Black Alby, hit spellcheck once in a while, it makes it so much more interesting for the reader! Gaterman your not coming to the SR, you only fish for eyes!
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maybe gatorman doesn't like us any more
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wow, hey northwoods do you do guide service
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yes i do
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I might go crappie fishing or I might go to North Sandy steelheading. I'll let the weather decide for me! Hey Black Alby, hit spellcheck once in a while, it makes it so much more interesting for the reader! Gaterman your not coming to the SR, you only fish for eyes!
Hey Snagger, Moose tells me theres alot of Browns over there this week
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Hey Snagger, Moose tells me theres alot of Browns over there this week
Hey bunker, how does he know, is he up here again! Tell him to stop over!
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I might go crappie fishing or I might go to North Sandy steelheading. I'll let the weather decide for me! Hey Black Alby, hit spellcheck once in a while, it makes it so much more interesting for the reader! Gaterman your not coming to the SR, you only fish for eyes!
Shanie, Crappie fishing or Steelheading. So which one did you decide ? Let me know & how you made out if you fish. THE MAYOR
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Hey bunker, how does he know, is he up here again! Tell him to stop over!
Hey BUNKER KILLER I heard MOOSE MAN is catching browns. I just hope he's not fishing at catfish creek for them, there's alot of dangerous footware there ( called cinder blocks ). Who knows maybe this time season he'll find a matching pair. THE MAYOR
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I might go crappie fishing or I might go to North Sandy steelheading. I'll let the weather decide for me! Hey Black Alby, hit spellcheck once in a while, it makes it so much more interesting for the reader! Gaterman your not coming to the SR, you only fish for eyes!
Hey SNAGGER, I read what you said to BLACK ALBY, I think you should have spellcheck at the coffee table . I've seen alot of your notes over the years and usually had to wait for you to wake up to have them translated. THE MAYOR
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maybe gatorman doesn't like us any more
that was john from pa that fish's with you we were at the bar last night . I'll be up the 7Th or the 8Th for crappie and walleye with snagger. let john use my post on his phone.
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Hey bunker, how does he know, is he up here again! Tell him to stop over!
Moose and Dave have been working on the shack since sunday. Moose called today and said he was going to stop and see you.You would be advised too have some disinfectant on hand if they do come by since the shack has no water and they haven't showered in five days
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Hey BUNKER KILLER I heard MOOSE MAN is catching browns. I just hope he's not fishing at catfish creek for them, there's alto of dangerous footware there ( called cinder blocks ). Who knows maybe this time season he'll find a matching pair. THE MAYOR
Hey, MAYOR he hasn't been to catfish creek yet but I'm sure if there's a cinder block in the area he's in he'll find it!
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Moose and Dave have been working on the shack since sunday. Moose called today and said he was going to stop and see you.You would be advised too have some disinfectant on hand if they do come by since the shack has no water and they haven't showered in five days
BUNKER KILLER what shack is MOOSEMAN working on & where is it located. No water & no shower for 5 days. Sounds like an ALTMAR thing. He must be involved in one of the local cults. THE MAYOR
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that was john from pa that fish's with you we were at the bar last night . I'll be up the 7Th or the 8Th for crappie and walleye with snagger. let john use my post on his phone.
hey are you going to invite me or what???
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See you guys on the river tomorrow.
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See you guys on the river tomorrow.
oh boy not you again!!!LOL save me some fish will you !!! don't catch them all!!! look for the boat
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Go get em boys!
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There's a nice CHUNKER! What river are you fishing on over there in Michigan, looks like a city in the background!
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Now I'm confused, I thought Gaterman was Bill308 from Ice Shanty. How is john using your posts. You talking about Dork? :cookoo: Hey MAYER, MOOSEMAN says showers are over rated! :cookoo: They like that mountain look & smell up here! :w00t: FISH & WOMAN :w00t: Hey MAYER, there's a big creek with a steel green bridge up north with a bunch of your favorite silver buddies swimming up under it! Too bad you weren't here! :clapping: It's OFFICALLY STARTED! :clapping: Now that we have had 2 nights above freezing and a little warm rain. :clapping: LET THE GAMES BEGIN! :clapping:
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There's a nice CHUNKER! What river are you fishing on over there in Michigan, looks like a city in the background!
Grand Rapids on the grand river.
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Grand Rapids on the grand river.
Sort of looks like our City of Oswego on the Oswego river. Your bridges look nicer looking, fishing looks the same though! Man your lakes been very healthy of late, from what I've seen on all the Inn fisherman specials they have been putting on the outdoor channel! Hope you Lambaste'em this year! :w00t:
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Sort of looks like our City of Oswego on the Oswego river. Your bridges look nicer looking, fishing looks the same though! Man your lakes been very healthy of late, from what I've seen on all the Inn fisherman specials they have been putting on the outdoor channel! Hope you Lambaste'em this year! :w00t:
SNAGGER, Did you fish for steelhead today ? If so how did you do ? THE MAYOR
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SNAGGER, Did you fish for steelhead today ? If so how did you do ? THE MAYOR
No, but I did go check all of the creeks and they looked good, Especially the north ones! Certain ones might get a little high for a while once the 3 plus feet of snow starts melting up on the Tug. It's holding alot of water this year! You'll hit it just right in a couple of weeks up there MAYER! The smaller ones will be off and on good from here on out! There's been fish in the creeks for about a week and a half or so, just nothing Major! :sleep1: Mooseman says the woman love him at the bars! :w00t: ;D Lambaste'em Boys! ;D
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BUNKER KILLER what shack is MOOSEMAN working on & where is it located. No water & no shower for 5 days. Sounds like an ALTMAR thing. He must be involved in one of the local cults. THE MAYOR
Hey Mayor,"ONLY IN ALTMAR" As far as the cult thing I'm beginning to think he's born again! He should also be careful with the WEMEN in the bars up there he need to be back too work by Monday. SNAGGERS posts are getting very colorful lately and all those faces look like little Salmon eggs waiting to hatch.
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Ya the snagger might need to prick his finger and check his sugar. Hey mayer you stand correct on some of his typos. The self proclaimed steelheader Jeff is probing the Sandies and Skinner right now (friday AM) we will see what his deal is. How long is the Mooseman up for?
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No, but I did go check all of the creeks and they looked good, Especially the north ones! Certain ones might get a little high for a while once the 3 plus feet of snow starts melting up on the Tug. It's holding alot of water this year! You'll hit it just right in a couple of weeks up there MAYER! The smaller ones will be off and on good from here on out! There's been fish in the creeks for about a week and a half or so, just nothing Major! :sleep1: Mooseman says the woman love him at the bars! :w00t: ;D Lambaste'em Boys! ;D
Thanks for all the info Snagher. Any Mooseman citings lately ? Bunker says he's born again , must be the wemen at the bar converted him to there life still. He's in training to be THE GRAND-PUPA of THE ALTMAR ONLY CULT. I wonder if hes drinking with Snaghers friend HE-HAW. Hey Bunker i was just looking at a picture of a fisherman walking a fish down at Ellis Cove , but all i could see was his head. One good thing is he landed a beautiful chrome Steelhead. That was a day i'll never forget. THE MAYOR
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Hey MAYER they've made it past the :wacko: Nuthouse :wacko: :clapping: There over to old grumpy Joe's hole :clapping: And a couple of miles above , you remember where he fell asleep!
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:w00t: North green bridge was muddy, now dropping! :clapping:
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Hey BUNKER KILLER just studied the weather report, maybe a suicide run next Wednesday for your Honeyhole from last year! THE RIVER STILL SLOW, but mid day sun did it's magic in altmar area with many hook ups mid day! Mostly on sac's under floats!
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Hey Snagger Dahmer said they had a tough day everywhere. Did you see him running around with Jamie?
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Hey Snagger Dahmer said they had a tough day everywhere. Did you see him running around with Jamie?
A TOUGH DAY! Jeffrey Dahmer caught fish everywhere he went after jamie left, he's in my kitchen, all loaded up on Segram's 7, talking about all the fish he caught! :sick:
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are you fishing in a boat or waders?
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are you fishing in a boat or waders?
All bank anglers here! I only post reports for the average guy!
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fly or bait cast I guess
fly with the maraboo
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fly or bait cast I guess
fly with the maraboo
We use 7 weight fly rods with mono (6lb.) small split and sacs in the smaller creeks. We use 10'6" ultra light steelhead rods with 4-6lb in the bigger creeks, with sacs.You can use them under a float or not! Sometimes we break out the 13'6" center pinns, if it aint too crowded on the bigger tribs! Spring time we use alot of egg sacs, the jig thing just ended, at least for us. We go back to them last week of April on the Big River for Dropbacks!
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A TOUGH DAY! Jeffrey Dahmer caught fish everywhere he went after jamie left, he's in my kitchen, all loaded up on Segram's 7, talking about all the fish he caught! :sick:
Snagger, Was Dahmer using the same fly kit that he gave me years ago. ? If he was i'm sure he caught alot of fish. We fished together the three of us day in & day out for many years. THE GOOD OLD YEARS. PS- Seagram's 7 makes for tuff fishing the next day. Bring out the barf bag. :-[ Hey Albi Spell Ck on Snaggers Quote. Hey BUNKER did you like Snaggers blue egg with the guy thingy on it. THE MAYOR
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The River Fly Kit! Don't let out any of our secrets! :nono: That kit has been passed down generation to generation! They were hitting white the last couple of days! :w00t:
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Snagger, Was Dahmer using the same fly kit that he gave me years ago. ? If he was I'm sure he caught allot of fish. We fished together the three of us day in & day out for many years. THE GOOD OLD YEARS. PS- Seagram's 7 makes for tuff fishing the next day. Bring out the barf bag. :-[ Hey Albi Spell Ck on Snaggers Quote. Hey BUNKER did you like Snaggers blue egg with the guy thingy on it. THE MAYOR
Hey MAYOR, I never caught anything using the color blue. Personely i like to keep my colors as close to the color of the hook I'm using as possibly. Seagram's 7 ? boy THE GOOD OLD DAYS SNAGGER I can't do a midweek until the 14'Th but friday-sunday may work. George i don't see this used too much up north :Afro:
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Everything up here is becoming Extremely accelerated now. going to hit 62 degrees today, already got good reports in this early! :cursing: Snows melting fast! :cursing: Well I got to get out of here if I'm going to get a spot at my crappie area!
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hey are you going to invite me or what???
always more then welcome to come with us you know that. unless your snowmobile runs out of gas.
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Wow so much action! Did Mr. Dahmer find his fly this morning? He tends to have the zombie look after the 7. :-\ Hows that crappie thing workin for you Snagger? I thaught you were going to think steelhead for awhile.
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By the way. Where is the Mooseman?
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Everything up here is becoming Extremely accelerated now. going to hit 62 degrees today, already got good reports in this early! :cursing: Snows melting fast! :cursing: Well I got to get out of here if I'm going to get a spot at my crappie area!
Snagger, Any reports on Puff Daddy fishing the posted area creek by his house? fish should be there by now. Any sitings on the Mooseman? The word from Bunker is that he has to be home by Monday. The Mayor
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CREEK REPORT: they were fine this morning, but steadally rose all day. By 7pm most were running green, but still fishable! The big Sandies are another story! south is muddy and unfishable. North Sandie was OK til 3pm then got unfishable by evening. Sunday all smaller creeks will be high, but fishable, the sandies will be unfishable, unless you like fishing the edges!Today it was 64 degrees and sunny. right now at midnight it's still 50 degrees. Nothing to stop the snowmelt! RIVER REPORT No idea,good amount of cars, and lots of drift boat trailers, everybody I know fished the tribs! Hey MAYER they are well above Puff Daddy's house!
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hello snagger i,m new to the sight i fish with dean coe we were up to your place fri. you weren,t around we went to the schoolhouse had one and landed 5# brown first time i,d fish the salmon in a long time really enjoyed myself hoping to talk dean into coming up next week we,re going to lansing for the opener.
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Snagger, Any reports on Puff Daddy fishing the posted area creek by his house? fish should be there by now. Any sitings on the Mooseman? The word from Bunker is that he has to be home by Monday. The Mayor
Hey Mayor, The Mooseman is still on the loose in Altmar. He tells me the might stay until midweek now, i guess he figures that if so many other fishermen are out of work he might as well join them! there going on day 9 without a shower and i could almost smell them through the phone this morning when they called. I wonder if the women in the bars still love him now. The fish must be drooping back every time they get close to the river!
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Hey George, When are you going to start your spring migration? will you be up by the 14TH ? I'm at my shop today geeting my gear ready and i was thinking of getting some new waders . Do they make any that go up as far as the neck?
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CREEK REPORT: they were fine this morning, but steadally rose all day. By 7pm most were running green, but still fishable! The big Sandies are another story! south is muddy and unfishable. North Sandie was OK til 3pm then got unfishable by evening. Sunday all smaller creeks will be high, but fishable, the sandies will be unfishable, unless you like fishing the edges!Today it was 64 degrees and sunny. right now at midnight it's still 50 degrees. Nothing to stop the snowmelt! RIVER REPORT No idea,good amount of cars, and lots of drift boat trailers, everybody I know fished the tribs! Hey MAYER they are well above Puff Daddy's house!
Snagher, So what did Puff Daddy say ? Did he fish the yellow zone ? Or Joe's hole ? THE MAYOR
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Hey Mayor, The Mooseman is still on the loose in Altmar. He tells me the might stay until midweek now, i guess he figures that if so many other fishermen are out of work he might as well join them! there going on day 9 without a shower and i could almost smell them through the phone this morning when they called. I wonder if the women in the bars still love him now. The fish must be drooping back every time they get close to the river!
Hey Bunker, Very windy here, strange smell in the air, wonder where that might be coming from. 9 days without a shower, sounds like he's shooting for an ALTMAR RECORD. Who is Mooseman on the prowl with ? THE MAYOR
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(UPDATE) the mooseman just called and said they had a change of plans, and that it might be a good idea to to show up for the first day at a new job. He also said that showers aren't as over rated as he originally thought!
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Hey Bunker, Very windy here, strange smell in the air, wonder where that might be coming from. 9 days without a shower, sounds like he's shooting for an ALTMAR RECORD. Who is Mooseman on the prowl with ? THE MAYOR hes up with a local CT boy who think he might have found a gold mine up there. You know the type
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Hey George, When are you going to start your spring migration? will you be up by the 14TH ? I'm at my shop today geeting my gear ready and i was thinking of getting some new waders . Do they make any that go up as far as the neck?
Hey BUNKER, Not sure when i'll be up, have Dr's appointments plus a Legal matter with a user. Believe me i wish i was there , maybe i'll start drinking again. As for your new waders, contact the Navy Seals and get a wet suit , no pun attended. While your talking to them you might as well order a mask, snorkel & fins with spikes. THE MAYOR PS- Who's George
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Snagher, So what did Puff Daddy say ? Did he fish the yellow zone ? Or Joe's hole ? THE MAYOR
The beckage crew came up with six and went down the river in a drift boat with Northwoods and another boat. They had alot of fun and caught a good amount of fish. last night they had a stag party out in the cabin! I didn't drink, but I think I have a hangover! Is it possible to get a hang over from to much laughter? All the guy's hit Phill's swimming hole, then spread out this morning, there's Good amount of fish everywhere,but waters are high! If it rains river will be going up soon! Also tore my ACL in my knee again somehow, I think my 3 mile river walk days are over, unless I get surgery!
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hello snagger i,m new to the sight i fish with dean coe we were up to your place fri. you weren,t around we went to the schoolhouse had one and landed 5# brown first time i,d fish the salmon in a long time really enjoyed myself hoping to talk dean into coming up next week we,re going to lansing for the opener.
Hey hope you do good at Lansing on the opener, I always liked that place about a week after. I always went to Cayuga inlet just above/below where Enfield creek dumps into it( just past 327 junction) on the first! Well if you ever need any info about up here just give me a shout!
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snagger you going to around thurs. dean and are going to be up in the morning. I was wondering how deep the school house hole is. I,d like to try the float never done that before could you give me some tips on that.
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Hey BUNKER, Not sure when I'll be up, have Dr's appointments plus A Legal matter with a user. Believe me i wish i was there , maybe I'll start drinking again. As for your new waders, contact the Navy Seals and get a wet suit , no pun attended. While your talking to them you might as well order a mask, snorkel & fins with spikes. THE MAYOR PS- Who's George
Well Mayor, that advice leaves me speechless
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The beckage crew came up with six and went down the river in a drift boat with Northwoods and another boat. They had alot of fun and caught a good amount of fish. last night they had a stag party out in the cabin! I didn't drink, but I think I have a hangover! Is it possible to get a hang over from to much laughter? All the guy's hit Joe's hole, then spread out this morning, there's Good amount of fish everywhere,but waters are high! If it rains river will be going up soon! Also tore my ACL in my knee again somehow, I think my 3 mile river walk days are over!
Snagher, You did'nt give me the Puff Daddy report ? Say hello to beckage for me. Did He- Haw entertain ?
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Hey BUNKER, Not sure when i'll be up, have Dr's appointments plus a Legal matter with a user. Believe me i wish i was there , maybe i'll start drinking again. As for your new waders, contact the Navy Seals and get a wet suit , no pun attended. While your talking to them you might as well order a mask, snorkel & fins with spikes. THE MAYOR PS- Who's George I give up who's George
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Hey Mayer Ya know i was thinking that maybe with some modifications, that snorkel and mask might not be a bad idea for Puff Daddy. I kind of remember him gettin a little nuts this time of year. As many glasses he has lost diving in log jams his wife might not dis agree. That snorkel might be of use as well. He seems a little short of breath now and then.
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Hey Mayer Ya know i was thinking that maybe with some modifications, that snorkel and mask might not be a bad idea for Puff Daddy. I kind of remember him gettin a little nuts this time of year. As many glasses he has lost diving in log jams his wife might not dis agree. That snorkel might be of use as well. He seems a little short of breath now and then.
Hey Black A, How could you ever think that Puff Daddy gets alittle nuts this time of the year. He really does not need a snorkle or mask, he always gave me an accurate fish count every time he went under. What he needs is more posted signs on his property, seeing he always obeyed & respected other posted property. THE MAYOR
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Hey went for a ride just before dark, and Orwell creek was already over it's banks before the rain started from snow melt. Just looked at the radar and alot of reds headed our way. Can't wait to see the creeks Monday, could be worthy of a picture! They had the BIG RES. lowered right down to nothing a week ago, but that will be filling very quickly now. ;D CAN ANYONE SAY 3200 CFS! ;D Hey MAYER haven't talk to PUFFY in a while, but PHILL'S swimming hole is getting so full, it's like suckers! When this water goes down, fish will be so far up the creeks, they'll need a taxi cab to get back to the lake!
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Fished some small tribs this morning with a friend.
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Had a blast early in the the morning . Then the water rose. Good while it lasted.
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i see you took TOBY with you today !!!! how did he do????? LOL
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He caught a carp. Sorry no pics
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2 of the guys did'nt want their faces to be on here i think they were in hiding from their wives
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Hey Wirestone did you take any pic's, if you did, post one! :w00t: I did go steelheading :w00t:, I went to phill's swimming hole and did very good. Water was rising very fast and getting dirty towards dark! I'll be out and about steelheading and crappie fishing next couple of days! FISHING going to be HOT! :rotflol: if you know where to go! :rotflol:
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hey am i invited????? your pm box is full
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hey am i invited????? your pm box is full
>:( Can't ever get you off the river. >:( :cursing: Do you SLEEP in your DRIFTBOAT! :cursing:
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i won't be in it this week except to ride the waves
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Hey MAYER, Old Joe just called from Philly. He said he saw on the news that the Route 3 bridge is closed! So many steelhead entering the river, the pylons are damaged! Hey Northwoods 2500cfs at least, maybe 3200cfs, GOOD PLUGGING/PINNING WATER, it's the 8,000-12,000 you got to worry about! That will be one of the next meltdowns/rain events, unless we get lucky again like the last 2 years!
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See page 12.
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just got off the phone with waterline 1800 till tomorrw. that won't last long
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this is JOE from NJ with his first steelhead EVER!!! what a battle in the big water he listened and got it to the net after a few long runs GREAT JOB JOE !!!!!!(https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F&hash=95b82c89ba4d3bc33c562212006dc28d)(https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi688.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv248%2Fnorthwoodsoutfitters%2Friverpicswinter09beckage015.jpg&hash=9083ecaca0f0fb838ad8c6ff59ba058c)
Nice pics. You wore them out . They slept on the way home.
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i bet they did. it was a lot of work sitting in the boat!!!!!! LOL
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:clapping: NICE FISH KEVIN :clapping: , Joe was a really nice guy.Tell brian I said bye! Hope you and your son can get back up soon. Hey bunkerkiller if your listening. there's going to be a big BALL on wednesday!
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We had a blast. I hope to be up soon. Thanks for all your help. Your rod worked great. I left the fly on it.
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We had a blast. I hope to be up soon. Thanks for all your help. Your rod worked great. I left the fly on it.
That rod has caught alot of fish! I'll order you one for next trip! I've always loved using those fly rods! Just looked at the fly :bowdown: ,I didn't know that was the color you were running! :bowdown:
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hey snagger we have to send one of mine back their was a fish flopping on it and guess what?????
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We had a blast. I hope to be up soon. Thanks for all your help. Your rod worked great. I left the fly on it.
can you make me some of those?
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snagger you going to around thurs. dean and are going to be up in the morning. I was wondering how deep the school house hole is. I,d like to try the float never done that before could you give me some tips on that.
Hey WHEELS57 you might better give a call up here first!(315-298-3248) The river could get unfishable for the bank angler for a while! Don't want you to make a wasted drive up here for nothing! I could point you in the right direction to another tributary, if they are fishable! Hope you do good down there weds.! :cursing: MONSTER SNOWMELT RIGHT NOW! :cursing:
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Black with copper. #10. They work great. How did those new guys make out ?
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which one's
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Hey Snagger i think everyone had a good time this weekend . What do you think??
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Black with copper. #10. They work great. How did those new guys make out ?
The new guys got into a few nice ones, there going to work for them monday! Tuesday will be the day! Ya what a great weekend Northwoods!
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Yea could not ask for better weather. Allways a good time. You should seen the weather on the ride home. Thunder storms , hail,and a double rainbow. Was waiting for a tornado. The 2 system must clashed together.
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Yea could not ask for better weather. Allways a good time. You should seen the weather on the ride home. Thunder storms , hail,and a double rainbow. Was waiting for a tornado. The 2 system must clashed together.
We had some downpours after you left, creeks all went out of there banks by dark!
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just got off the phone with waterline 1800 till tomorrw. that won't last long
This time of year, the only time they tell you when the waters going up is after it's already up! :cookoo:
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Hey Snagger, It looks like everyone had a great weekend. I couldn't makeout northwoods pic is he originally from my state?
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snagger is the river way up we got snow this morning do you think tues. will be the day looks like its going to sunny.i appreciate the info thanks
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HEY BUNKER KILLER, check those pics out they should be there!!! page 13
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(UPDATE) the mooseman just called and said they had a change of plans, and that it might be a good idea to to show up for the first day at a new job. He also said that showers aren't as over rated as he originally thought!
Hey BUNKER, Did MOOSEMAN arrive safely ? Boats over the week-end were out checking the shoals along Sandy Hook for changes. Waiting for the big migration along the beach. Any black fish in your area ? Weather was unbelievable over the week-end ,hot & sunny, grass is green & trees are starting to bud. Did you have any luck finding your underwater outfit ? FHE MAYOR
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Salmon River & Creeks Report: The river is presently at a high 1800cfs plus runoff. Very tough conditions for a bank angler, unless you find some soft edges or side diversions! I checked the smaller creeks and they were dropping pretty quickly with the colder temps and snow! Just a coating here,but went up to the dam on the BIG RES. and there was still a solid foot of old snow in the woods and 3 inches new. The big res has filled quite a bit, but still 9 feet of room for snowmelt! So looks like 1800cfs for a little while longer before she goes up! Have fun on the smaller creeks Tuesday! :w00t: Oh by the way, hi MAYOR!
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Thanks Snagger And Mark, Had a BLAST ,couldn't have done it with out ya guys.Hope to be back soon, gotta get a new reel. smoked another reel With using northwoods guide service I heard this happens from too many hookups. Any ideas for best bang for your buck ones?
THANKS AGAIN
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Thanks Snagger And Mark, Had a BLAST ,couldn't have done it with out ya guys.Hope to be back soon, gotta get a new reel. smoked another reel With using northwoods guide service I heard this happens from too many hookups. Any ideas for best bang for your buck ones?
THANKS AGAIN
What kind of reel? Spinning or fly!
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Salmon River & Creeks Report: The river is presently at a high 1800cfs plus runoff. Very tough conditions for a bank angler, unless you find some soft edges or side diversions! I checked the smaller creeks and they were dropping pretty quickly with the colder temps and snow! Just a coating here,but went up to the dam on the BIG RES. and there was still a solid foot of old snow in the woods and 3 inches new. The big res has filled quite a bit, but still 9 feet of room for snowmelt! So looks like 1800cfs for a little while longer before she goes up! Have fun on the smaller creeks Tuesday! :w00t: Oh by the way, hi MAYOR!
Hi Snagher, Glad to hear OLD JOE called, I keep in touch with him every now and then. New snow up above , does'nt surprise me. Hey, what's this about your knee, when are you going to start wearing a light stretch knee brace for alittle extra support. I'll send you one , I know you won't go get one. THE MAYOR
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MAYOR Stayed off it all of December, then ice fished all winter, sometimes 4 miles of walking a day dragging 120lbs. of gear, no problems. Went crappie fishing the other day, stepped in a rut and twisted it! Now I have a light brace, I bought at rite aid on it! Just dumb luck! No crossing the river at 1500cfs like the old days in my future! Went to Phil's swimming hole with some new guys, they weren't in there as good as I thought they would be. Runs are going to be spread out thru April, even though we have the water NOW! :pinch: WATERS COLD! :pinch: When you coming back up for a while?
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Hey Snagger, he was battling and we noticed the drag was not working to good we looked at the reel and the line was burned into the plastic edge and we couldn't believe that the line didn't break wow it was scary!!!!
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HEY BLUNSTER, had a great time with you guys how is JOE'S hand doing after fighting those fish???
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MAYOR Stayed off it all of December, then ice fished all winter, sometimes 4 miles of walking a day dragging 120lbs. of gear, no problems. Went crappie fishing the other day, stepped in a rut and twisted it! Now I have a light brace, I bought at rite aid on it! Just dumb luck! No crossing the river at 1500cfs like the old days in my future! Went to Phil's swimming hole with some new guys, they weren't in there as good as I thought they would be. Runs are going to be spread out thru April, even though we have the water NOW! :pinch: WATERS COLD! :pinch: When you coming back up for a while?
SNAGGER, Take care of that knee, glad to here that your wearing a light brace. Phil is becoming famous for all the wrong reasons. He's lucky he did'nt get seriously hurt, but i would of loved to seen it. I'll be up soon, just finishing a legal matter with the user that has become quite a fabricated storyteller. I'll tell you all about it when I come up. It rates with the Pauly , Stretch saga. THE MAYOR
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Snagger, I'm of need of a back up spinning reel. just ordered the replacement part from Quantum @ $ 1.19 ,(got a back up also).
NORTHWOODS Joey kept his hand in front of the heater vent for the first couple hours home , I hope he didn't re-injure it when he got home, :laugh: . He had a blast ,but tired , he wasn't used to the walking up & down. He is used to elevators. But now he has da bug in him, he don't know it yet,every day it will grow a little more and more. Till he will be infected like the rest of us fishheads.Once you got it there only one way to ease it, that's yelling FISH-ON !!! or in my case FISH - OFF. again ::)
Captain Mark your the best !!! will call soon to break my youngest in. I heard you LOVE kids.
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Just got back from fishing and stopped off at norton road on lower Little Sandy. Man did it look GOOD, a nice medium green/clear level. Orwell/Trout brooks look perfect and North Sandy( nice green) is looking good too! South Sandy still too high! Torn ACL is keeping me fishing for crappolas off some docks! :clapping: THOSE CREEKS LOOK GREAT TODAY! :clapping: :w00t: Get on them creeks and LAMBAST'EM! :w00t: Hey nice meeting you this morning WHEELS57, how did you make out? See you soon Bryon!
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Hey BUNKER, Did MOOSEMAN arrive safely ? Boats over the weekend were out checking the shoal's along Sandy Hook for changes. Waiting for the big migration along the beach. Any black fish in your area ? Weather was unbelievable over the weekend ,hot & sunny, grass is Green & trees are starting to bud. Did you have any luck finding your underwater outfit ? FHE MAYOR
Hey MAYOR, Mooseman finally made it back i knew he was in town when all the coyotes stated to howl. i haven't heard much about black fish but flounder opens tomorrow and some bass are in the rivers chasing the herring . I saw a guy in the Derby area this morning coming up from the river with a 20 plus ponder at about 5:30 Well as for my new wedder outfit,I was on eBay the other day and came across a diving-bell that I thought might solve all of my problems with the deep spots
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HEY BUNKER you got a PM!
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Hay snagger im all signed up and redy to blog!!!!!! You can see what my user name will be. Tell the rest of the clan. The creek report sounds reel good. Did you go to powers road? I stoped on saturday and it looked perfect bot no fish. Im still hi on the 13lb Domestic from the north. That will keep me going for a while. 8)
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Hey smuckey dont give me no crap about my writin!! I seems to be a normal phenominon around here. Went to maxwell today I guess the suckers moved in over the weekend. had a blast picking out steehead most of the day. I landed a pile of em. Backner and Dutten are there almost every day. Going to the Inlet tomorrow cya.
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Hay snagger im all signed up and redy to blog!!!!!! You can see what my user name will be. Tell the rest of the clan. The creek report sounds reel good. Did you go to powers road? I stoped on saturday and it looked perfect bot no fish. Im still hi on the 13lb Domestic from the north. That will keep me going for a while. 8)
Hey LV :cookoo: they got to be up to West Boylston by now, That water was raging yesterday! There was only a couple of cars at Norton RD. and only a few cars around Orwell. There was a bunch of lost Spey rodders( ;D WOW! ;D ) at lower end of Trout Brook, probably waiting for the Graveyard to open up tomorrow out back! North Sandy had the usual guides/clients that are always there! But all in all the area is a ghost town compared to other years! :sleep1:
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It was weird today it did look like a ghost town!!
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I can't be the only one that is having trouble coming up with the money to come out. All the reports of great fishing are eating at me as I can't come until May. Seems like it is fishing great. Fish in all the creeks. My buddie is coming in a week or so, wish I could afford it.
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Hey smuckey dont give me no crap about my writin!! I seems to be a normal phenominon around here. Went to maxwell today I guess the suckers moved in over the weekend. had a blast picking out steehead most of the day. I landed a pile of em. Backner and Dutten are there almost every day. Going to the Inlet tomorrow cya.
Hey :cookoo: Black Alby :cookoo: , tell Dutton, Bockner, and the boys to come up and fish with the Big Boys and get out of those Mudpuddles! :w00t: Just kidding, when you coming up this way again? :w00t: Tell those old boys, I said HI! :w00t:
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HEY SNAGGER, you know i've been around the river for a long time, i just saw an advertisement for RIVER RUN TROUTFITTERS this guy claims to be on the river all the time i have NEVER seen or heard of this guy before. His site had a letter on the front of it from clients from 2006 wow. I guess that tells you how much he is out there huh. I just thought that was funny how some of these so called guides brag. It is so nice not to have to do that. I don't know how these people sleep at night!!! >:(
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I can't be the only one that is having trouble coming up with the money to come out. All the reports of great fishing are eating at me as I can't come until May. Seems like it is fishing great. Fish in all the creeks. My buddie is coming in a week or so, wish I could afford it.
Hey Jim, they are usually still around and nobody is here fishing then so don't get to discouraged i'm sure you will have fun anyway!! Just give Snagger or myself a pm and we will let you know what is going on. Good Luck in Advance!!
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I can't be the only one that is having trouble coming up with the money to come out. All the reports of great fishing are eating at me as I can't come until May. Seems like it is fishing great. Fish in all the creeks. My buddie is coming in a week or so, wish I could afford it.
Yep, it's tough all over for the average guy! Most of the guys that stay at my lodge are working class( you know the guys they always blame all the littering and everything else on!), not Elitests. I have a big kitchen in my place, where the boys cook there own food to save on money! And if there's a good run going on somewhere, we all jump in one vehicle to save on gas! Plus I carry the basics in tackle at just over cost to help them out the best I can! I have a huge crew of guy's that come from MAINE every Salmon Season. GREAT GUYS! Just noticed you said your coming up in May, got lot's of room for boats/trailers and outside pavillion for barby's. Cooking your own vennie or fish always helps save some $ :thumbup_smilie: Good luck, Hope you have a great season! :flag:
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HEY LV, WELCOME ABOARD!!!
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Hey MAYOR, Mooseman finally made it back i knew he was in town when all the coyotes stated to howl. i haven't heard much about black fish but flounder opens tomorrow and some bass are in the rivers chasing the herring . I saw a guy in the Derby area this morning coming up from the river with a 20 plus ponder at about 5:30 Well as for my new wedder outfit,I was on eBay the other day and came across a diving-bell that I thought might solve all of my problems with the deep spots
BUNKER KILLER, Big day South of Sandy Hook off the the Highlands Bridge, birds diving ,lots of bait, bass underneath. Only 6 boats chasing them. Black fish on the wreaks using crabs getting better by the day. Flounder fishing in the Shrewsbury is so so, much better in the Navasink. Chum pots is the word. Hey Bunker give me the address to order a diving bell , I want to order one for Puff Daddy. The Mayor
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BUNKER KILLER, Big day South of Sandy Hook off the the Highlands Bridge, birds diving ,lots of bait, bass underneath. Only 6 boats chasing them. Black fish on the wreaks using crabs getting better by the day. Flounder fishing in the Shrewsbury is so so, much better in the Navasink. Chum pots is the word. Hey Bunker give me the address to order a diving bell , I want to order one for Puff Daddy. The Mayor
HEY THIS IS A STEELHEAD THREAD, NOT AN OCEAN THREAD! :cookoo: just kidding! SNAGGER!
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HEY BUNKER, Glad to hear that the MOOSEMAN made it back home safely. If i were you i'd stay clear of him for awhile it could get coyote ugly. Say hello to MOOSEMAN for me. THE MAYOR
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BUNKER KILLER, Big day South of Sandy Hook off the the Highlands Bridge, birds diving ,lots of bait, bass underneath. Only 6 boats chasing them. Black fish on the wreaks using crabs getting better by the day. Flounder fishing in the Shrewsbury is so so, much better in the Nevsky. Chum pots is the word. Hey Bunker give me the address to order a diving bell , I want to order one for Puff Daddy. The Mayor
Hey MAYOR, If your going to be down this way for awhile maybe Mooseman and myself can come down and the three of us can hit a party boat for some blackfish?I went out last light yesterday and fished the brackish waters for sea-runs and got my first 8lb trout for CT it just maid me want to point the truck north even more.
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northwoods and SNAGGER,
Thanks for the info. I usually do pretty good in May. We go out on the big boat a few times and poke around the rest of the time. Last year we found a few steelhead in the SR. but we fished mostly in the lake. One of my buddies let us use his drift boat to fish around in the harbor and out by the rocks. This year we thought about hauling out my boat. It is well equipped for Maine, I have big jon riggers and the otter planners but it is only 16.5' and we would have to catch some flat water to make it to the nuke plant. Don't want to haul it and not use it.
We usually stay with a friend but he is selling his house, If you have rooms, etc send me a pm with your website or pm me your prices... My other options are staying with my Mom down on Oneida lake (Sylvan Beach end) or my sister in Rochester. Both of them involve to much diving if we are fishing around Oswego.
Thanks again.
Jim
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HEY BUNKER KILLER, check those pics out they should be there!!! page 13
Hey Northwoods,I looked at all your pics and its nice to see a guide on the river that shows his clients such a GREAT TIME ill see you in a week or so BUNKER
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Hey MAYOR, I talked to the MOOSEMAN awhile ago and passed along your howdy to him I'm not sure he understood who i was talking about because SNAGGER told me to only refer to you as THE MAYOR, and moose told me he didn't know anybody in politics.
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hey snagger and northwoods had a good time meeting you guys. Mon. lots of fish in orwell all doubles nothing landed Lansing was a sucker fest saw about a dozen bows caught nothing great big 5# maybe Mostly at the bridge to the falls. Ther were a couple of undercover agents from the FBI on the creek no tickets that I saw Dean and I are coming up tommorrow what do think is the way to go. We didn,t get much rain down here. Are you guys going to around tommorrow if so let me know what time we,ll stop in se ya tommorrow
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hey snagger and northwoods had a good time meeting you guys. Mon. lots of fish in orwell all doubles nothing landed Lansing was a sucker fest saw about a dozen bows caught nothing great big 5# maybe Mostly at the bridge to the falls. Ther were a couple of undercover agents from the FBI on the creek no tickets that I saw Dean and I are coming up tommorrow what do think is the way to go. We didn,t get much rain down here. Are you guys going to around tommorrow if so let me know what time we,ll stop in se ya tommorrow
The Lulow sucker fest, I remember those days! Alot of fun after you've gotten a couple good "Bow's". We got a liitle rain & a little more snowmelt, but nothing major. Creeks are in great shape(all of them). What ever one you've had the most sucess in the past, go to! I should be around til noon, then I'm going fishing somewhere! 64 and sunny, nice!
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Hey Northwoods,I looked at all your pics and its nice to see a guide on the river that shows his clients such a GREAT TIME ill see you in a week or so BUNKER
Thanks a lot it is nice to be known for that!!! THANKS A LOT
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Hey Snagger There were quite a few fish in the inlet, decent size, a ton of fisherman and green water. No suckers. I fished it early went to bass pro shop. then flew up to Maxwell again. Water is getting low, and suckers are thick. I seen a few Steelies did not land one though. I failed to mention i landed about a 9 pound Walleye below the bridge yesterday. I have a northern feeling coming on this weekend. cya then.
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Hey Snagger There were quite a few fish in the inlet, decent size, a ton of fisherman and green water. No suckers. I fished it early went to bass pro shop. then flew up to Maxwell again. Water is getting low, and suckers are thick. I seen a few Steelies did not land one though. I failed to mention i landed about a 9 pound Walleye below the bridge yesterday. I have a northern feeling coming on this weekend. cya then.
GIVE THE HOUSE A CALL! Certain spots have gotten Good! I talked too Jeffrey Dommer!
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Went and checked the Big Res. and it's still holding steady at about 9-10 feet down from the high water mark! So river should stay at a cold 1800cfs for a few more days. Most bank anglers are fishing in the Diversions down from the school or up from the trestle! Also some of the islands are pretty loaded up with spawners at Ellis Cove area! Been hitting egg sacs pretty good, just very hard to land. I stopped at the small dam across from the hatchery on my way back from the Res.WOW! is that loaded up with steelhead(hundreds, some big tanks), great place to bring the kids to show them what big steelhead look like on a nice sunny day! ;D
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I was looking at the regs and it said you can use treble hooks on a flotaing lure Between April 1st and August 15th. Does that mean you can't use spinners if they have treble hooks?
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Hay Snagger take the camera up next time you go and get a few shots of the steelhead at the dam. I stoped at Garys after work, he said he fished Tuesday and Wednesday at his usual spot and said that he did pretty good for the water being so high. Didnt land meany like you said but had a good time. He was going to stop but he said it looked like you were working on a boat in the driveway? Wel i will probably see you next weekend. :o
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NORTHWOODS, Can you email that picture of joey ? I was going to get it printed for Joey. Nothing like your first one!!!! How's da waders holding up ???
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I was looking at the regs and it said you can use treble hooks on a flotaing lure Between April 1st and August 15th. Does that mean you can't use spinners if they have treble hooks?
Salmon river special regs. change April 14th, it's the rest of the tribs that changed on the first! I just looked up the regs. I coundn't find anything on spinners, I know people use them, but I'm not so sure it's legal! I would say no! Call a warden, there personal #'s on the back of the Regs.
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Hay Snagger take the camera up next time you go and get a few shots of the steelhead at the dam. I stoped at Garys after work, he said he fished Tuesday and Wednesday at his usual spot and said that he did pretty good for the water being so high. Didnt land meany like you said but had a good time. He was going to stop but he said it looked like you were working on a boat in the driveway? Wel i will probably see you next weekend. :o
Your two favorite green streams have been real good the last 2 days for JD and his father! I mean if we went over, it would be 20-30 hook up days! Hey Fillet/release you out there some where, Bruce Walden's son wrote me today, Bruce is doing good down in the keys> What great memories of what the river used to be like, that letter brought up! ;D
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If you look close at the special regs on salmon river "FLOATING LURE ONLY. HOOKS CAN'T BE MORE THAN 1 AND 1/2 INCHES AWAY FROM THE LURE" also they must be free swinging.
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SPIKEHORN11, I HOPE THIS HELPS YOU OUT YOU KNOW HOW THEY GET YOU FOR EVERY LITTLE THING THEY CAN UP HERE !!!
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hey snagger missed you yesterday river was way up did they open the gates up more no hook ups went to orwell only saw 2 fish in the crik shane how long do the steelis stay up before the return trip starts took dean up to the dam at the hatchery WOW is right you could walk the crik never get your feet wet. give me a shout if starts looking good again lots of rain in the forecast. talk to ya later.
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i asked a dec officer a few years back about spinners. he said you have to have a single hook with a gap no more than a 1/2 inch (i think). i've done well over the years on spinners.
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Beaver dam brook accross from hachery is loaded good place to take the kids this weekend to see all those big beauties!!!
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hey northwoods are you running any trips on Wednesday or Thursday
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Snagger I'll be up on Tuesday night or early Wednesday morning.
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RIVER & CREEKS UPDATE: Today is probably the last day the Salmon River will be at 1800cfs as I went up to the big res. today before the rain and it went from being 10 feet down to only 6 feet down in one day! She's rising fast from Monster Snowmelt on the Tug hill. At that rate the Res. should be full by Monday morning! The River is going to go threw it's flood stage for a while. Also all of the creeks up here came out of there banks by late afternoon due to snowmelt and afternoon rains. The smaller creeks will be back down by Sunday, but not tomorrow! Don't waste your time coming up here, unless you know a good high water spot! :whistling:
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Snagger I'll be up on Tuesday night or early Wednesday morning.
What your going to take up steelheading again, I've got some spots for ya! :w00t:
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Im actually heading up Sunday for the day with the family... Im guessing the all the creeks are in good shape!?
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Snagger... You wouldnt happen to be Shane from Altmar outfitters?
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Snagger... You wouldnt happen to be Shane from Altmar outfitters?
The infamous!
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What your going to take up steelheading again, I've got some spots for ya! :w00t:
Crappies. :D :P
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Bummed to hear that the River is gonna run wild just as I plan my 1st Trip up :( Primarily wanted to fish Orwell, hopefully that'll be ok?
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Bummed to hear that the River is gonna run wild just as I plan my 1st Trip up :( Primarily wanted to fish Orwell, hopefully that'll be ok?
Just looked at Orwell, she's Unrecognisable, way out of control high on the lower end. Drove to the upper reaches and it's coming down because there's about a foot of new snow up top soaking up all the water! The RIVER is going to blow a gasket Tonight!!
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I've done ok fishing slow water along shoreline when water goes up especially in Oswego gonna stay over there till things settle down Great info Snagger thank you!!
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JUST CAME BACK FROM THE DAM, had to push snow with my bumper to get up there! The Big Res. has already gone up another 4 Feet, only the boards are left! Once she's at the top of the Boards, they have to let out what ever is coming into the Big Res. Didn't want spend ten years driving to Redfield as there was Blizzard conditions with blowing & drifting snow so bad up there I had to turn around. Easilly 6-12 inches, plus drifts all over! Some trees and power lines down.Can't Imagine how much Tug Hill is getting! Could be good flood Tuesday, if we get Heavy rain on monday, on top of this mess! If you have never seen the river high, tomorrow's your chance!
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Snagger.. PM Sent..
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JUST CAME BACK FROM THE DAM, had to push snow with my bumper to get up there! The Big Res. has already gone up another 4 Feet, only the boards are left! Once she's at the top of the Boards, they have to let out what ever is coming into the Big Res. Didn't want spend ten years driving to Redfield as there was Blizzard conditions with blowing & drifting snow so bad up there I had to turn around. Easilly 6-12 inches, plus drifts all over! Some trees and power lines down.Can't Imagine how much Tug Hill is getting! Could be good flood Tuesday, if we get Heavy rain on monday, on top of this mess! If you have never seen the river high, tomorrow's your chance!Hey Snagger, are they in your mud hole?
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Not enough water yet, need 8,000cfs for that spot, they just raised it to 3,800cfs for now! Got a foot of river water in my basement and rising!
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Hey Snagger Ya want to put a few tractor inner tubes under my trailer? Sounds like You might need to tie it down also!
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Has anyone ever encountered this, while fishing the Salmon or Oswego River? ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVS1UfCfxlU&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVS1UfCfxlU&feature=related)
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RIVER & CREEKS UPDATE: The river was 4600cfs at Pineville at one point this morning, but slowly receding. Everybody did good on the smaller creeks Today! There's not as many fish in certain creeks as you would think, due to very cold snowmelt runoff & fish being spread out through the upper reaches due to extended high waters . Still alot of the run yet to come later this month when it warms up! Don't get nervous hearing that the suckers are already in. In colder April's in the past, I've seen the steelies out last the rubbernoses! The bigger ones were still not fishable unless you fished the edges! A short window Monday to MAYBE hit south sandy edges before more rain sends her back up! I heard it was shoulder to shoulder at Stony Creek again now that the Salmon River is blown out! Until the river gets back to a more manageable level, the near bye Tributaries will be more crowded. I don't think it will be too bad though as we have bad weather in the forcast all week and alot of the river guides will be right back on the river again,after the newly washed out fallen trees have settled in! :clapping: Green bridge bonanza! :clapping: LAMBASTE'EM BOYS! :w00t: monday am?
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JUST CHECKED THE RADAR,and She's filling right up again with heavy rain! Stong east winds will also melt our most recent Snowfall(18" Redfield), So your window to fish the Sandies just closed in on ya!(maybe late Wednesday or Thursday) The smaller creeks will be rising as the day goes on as well! The Salmon River will probably be on it's way up even higher depending on how long it rains, before it changes back to Snow again! RIVER WILL BE BIG ON TUESDAY! Looks like a high water Month for the Salmon River with this weather pattern! Float fisherman's Paradise when it warms up a little! (280cfs Trout Brook) (4450cfs 5am Pineville)
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Hey Bunker, Sounds like everything up north is flooded, new snow & lots of rain. Flounder fishing over the weekend was great at Spermacetti Cove on the back side of Sandy Hook. Tandem rigs produced alot of doubles. Stripper fishing hot & cold, best was near the bunker nets behind the point of Sandy Hook. Lots of birds working off the beach south of the Highlands bridge. Whats going on in the L.I.S. ? I forgot this is a Steelhead , Walleye , Crappie , Brown Trout, Sucker & Weather B.S. Thread. ( oh by the way hello Snagger ) THE MAYOR
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Hey MAYOR did you stop by when you were up! Bob said there was a Mayor sighting a couple days ago! There was a white car following me over by The green Bridge that looked like a politician was driving it!
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Hey MAYOR did you stop by when you were up! Bob said there was a Mayor sighting a couple days ago! There was a white car following me over by The green Bridge that looked like a politician was driving it!
Snagger , A white car you say, if i was behind you why did'nt you stop and say hello. The only green bridge i've seen lately is the Highlands Bridge in N.J. Why did'nt you tell me you & bridge eagle were in N.J. , we could of gone flounder fishing . I think the Governor of N.Y has a white car. THE MAYOR
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Has anyone ever encountered this, while fishing the Salmon or Oswego River? ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVS1UfCfxlU&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVS1UfCfxlU&feature=related)
Man, That was funny, Almost wizzed myself. Thanks for the headsup on that video. After a monday from he!! that was great. --KingPerch
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Well Power Company has started it's usually Spring Games! It's called Try and figure out what we will have the water at tomorrow! There ramping the water Down from 3,800cfs to 1500cfs as I write( so they say!)! Took a drive to the Dam and the water is about 10 inches under the Spill Gates or 2 1/2' feet from Full pool! I'm not a scientist, but I think it will be back to a High 1800cfs shortly! Didn't loose much snow, still a solid foot of snow in the woods at the Dam! We only received about 3/8's of an inch of rain today, So the smaller creeks will be fine Tomorrow. The bigger one's a little longer! More snow & cold in the forcast, so plenty of runoff for the future up on the Tug Hill! NOW IT'S TIME TO LAMBASTE'EM!
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Oh I forgot to say, The Salmon River is running Green! This only occurs during spring runoff for a few weeks! The rest of the year it runs a stained gin clear color, due to a pristine Tug Hill Watershed! Great time to take advantage of a good bite, if water levels cooperate! With the water going back to a more reasonable level, there should be less pressure on the other tributaries as well! Good Luck!
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Well Power Company has started it's usually Spring Games! It's called Try and figure out what we will have the water at tomorrow! There ramping the water Down from 3,800Cf's to 1500Cf's as I write( so they say!)! Took a drive to the Dam and the water is about 10 inches under the Spill Gates or 2 1/2' feet from Full pool! I'm not a scientist, but I think it will be back to a High 1800Cf's shortly! Didn't loose much snow, still a solid foot of snow in the woods at the Dam! We only received about 3/8's of an inch of rain today, So the smaller creeks will be fine Tomorrow. The bigger one's a little longer! More snow & cold in the forcast, so plenty of runoff for the future up on the Tug Hill! NOW IT'S TIME TO LAMBASTE'EM!
It sounds to me like next week might be a home-run
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Hey Bunker, Sounds like everything up north is flooded, new snow & lots of rain. Flounder fishing over the weekend was great at Spermacetti Cove on the back side of Sandy Hook. Tandem rigs produced alot of doubles. Stripper fishing hot & cold, best was near the bunker nets behind the point of Sandy Hook. Lots of birds working off the beach south of the Highlands bridge. Whats going on in the L.I.S. ? I forgot this is a Steelhead , Walleye , Crappie , Brown Trout, Sucker & Weather B.S. Thread. ( oh by the way hello Snagger ) THE MAYOR
Hey MAYOR,It sounds like things are starting too get hot down there, i wish it was like that here so far the flounder reports have been poor, but we are typically a few weeks after you guys. I'm heading north on the 14Th and staying till the 19Th any idea when your migration will start? Mooseman said he'll head back up with us since none of his works started yet its a good thing he came back when he did some of the bars here were worried about there rent.
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Hi Snagger, :bowdown: I see Bunker Killer will be up the 14 to the 19 & the cinder block kid is coming with him. :clapping: Talk to you later. THE MAYOR :flag:
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RIVER UPDATE: The river has stabilized at a High Cold 1800cfs Plus Runoff, about where I thought it would end up! These levels are still very difficult for the bank angler. Fishing edges, side diversions, and Islands in the upper reaches being your best bet! However if there is a good side to this, it is a perfect level for drift boat fishing, there for relieving some of the pressure off the creeks!
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CREEKS UPDATE: The smaller ones are perfect, but still good water flows from meltoff. The bigger ones are unfishable, enless you like fishing the edges! Ground water tables are high and we have gotten more snow again, so creeks should drop slowly! Good luck & when is it going to warm up, so I can go Crappie Fishing!
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Thanks for all the updates on the conditions up there, SNAGGER.
I really wish I could make it up there, right now. But, being 'financially depressed', as I am right now, makes it hard to get up there. I'll tell you what, though. I will definitely be making up for lost time, once I get back on my feet again. Hopefully, me and a couple of my Rebel buddies get to fish with you guys some time. 'Till then, Good Luck to you guys, and continue having a great season! :thumbup_smilie:
SalmonRebel.
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Bunker, Are you happy ;D with your new diving bell ? Puff Daddy ordered one with the optional underwater smoke stack so he could see more steelhead than there really are. :thumbup_smilie: So where do you plan on entering ? Upstream by the down tree :w00t: or off the rocks :nono: Regardless i'll be there to watch the show :clapping: I'm sure you & Puff Daddy will put on a great show :bowdown: THE MAYOR Hi Snagger, Any white car sitings near the green bridge today ? Tell me the truth were you driving around with Talula. :o I see your getting more snow . See you soon. :o THE MAYOR
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You ever heard the saying, you should have been here yesterday.. Well today was one of those days! One of my guests fished from sun up to sun down(crazy@%#%!) and clobbered them everywhere he went! The day started on the schoolhouse pool and tom's run with 2 big browns and 9 steelies landed in less than 2 hours on Pink worms and floats. Then he hit a side diversion of the river and smashed them! Took off on a drive and hit every stream from here to Dexter! If I told you the numbers you would call me a liar, so I'll just say it was over 50 hook ups for the day! Blizzard conditions and no fisherman everywhere he went to. Said he ran into 8 people all day! This probably will not be repeated again for a while, but the fishing will stay good! The day the creeks drop and a lake effect blizzard is a great combination for big numbers! The Next time the creeks do a drop it will be alot warmer and alot more crowded! Got to love week day snowstorms, I know my buddy did! Oh I forgot to say, you better tie Alot of Sacs!
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Hey Bunker the #'s were as good as yours last April! Hey Mayor times running out when are you coming on your North Migration? Hey LV were adding to the snowpack bigtime right now, got 4" here 8" new just up the road and probably a total of 20" by tomorrow night up on the Tug Hill. That's on top of the last 18" they got 2 days ago! That should re-raise your favorite creeks for ya this weekend!
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Hi Snagger, I'll be up by the weekend :thumbup_smilie: and you better be taking me fishing. :bowdown: I can't be left alone in the water. :( I have a new toy for your weather station. ;) THE MAYOR
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Hi Snagger, I'll be up by the weekend :thumbup_smilie: and you better be taking me fishing. :bowdown: I can't be left alone in the water. :( I have a new toy for your weather station. ;) THE MAYOR
:flex: Alot of the Crew will be up this weekend, We'll take care of Ya! :flex:
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:flex: Alot of the Crew will be up this weekend, We'll take care or Ya! :flex:
Thanks SNAGGER, Remember, I expect to fish with you or i'll go out with TOBY :afro: THE MAYOR
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Thanks SNAGGER, Remember, I expect to fish with you or i'll go out with TOBY :afro: THE MAYOR
He's the second best fisherman on the property! :w00t: I guess I'll have to come out of Steelhead Retirement then! I wonder if Matt is listening? :whistling:
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I guess I'll have to come out of Steelhead Retirement then! I wonder if Matt is listening? :whistling:
SNAGGER, I forgot about Matt, maybe you should go crappie fishing instead. What's with this Ya stuff, you''ve been in Altmar to long . :flex: THE MAYOR :flex:
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Thanks for all the updates on the conditions up there, SNAGGER.
I really wish I could make it up there, right now. But, being 'financially depressed', as I am right now, makes it hard to get up there. I'll tell you what, though. I will definitely be making up for lost time, once I get back on my feet again. Hopefully, me and a couple of my Rebel buddies get to fish with you guys some time. 'Till then, Good Luck to you guys, and continue having a great season! :thumbup_smilie:
SalmonRebel.
Remember what I said about the PA Boys! Hope to meet you and Rebelfisher this year! Drink one for me! :thumbup_smilie:
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Hey ::) Mayor :afro: I :clapping: think :thumbup_smilie: i'll start at the mouth :rotflol: and grap the biggest fish :cookoo: by the tail :bowdown: and let him pull me upstream to where all his buddies are :wacko:
Bunker, Are you happy ;D with your new diving bell ? Puff Daddy ordered one with the optional underwater smoke stack so he could see more steelhead than there really are. :thumbup_smilie: So where do you plan on entering ? Upstream by the down tree :w00t: or off the rocks :nono: Regardless i'll be there to watch the show :clapping: I'm sure you & Puff Daddy will put on a great show :bowdown: THE MAYOR Hi Snagger, Any white car sitings near the green bridge today ? Tell me the truth were you driving around with Talula. :o I see your getting more snow . See you soon. :o THE MAYOR
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I believe that you are are all addicted to these cold blooded equatic vertabrates, and they seem to have a perpetual effect on your behaviors. ???
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:clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
Hey BUNKER, Are you a band leader, here's SNAGGERS favorite dingy-doo :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo: :cookoo: uh oh who's that, is that Matt behind the tree :police: THE MAYOR
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Hey Bunker, What is Moosemans real name? I've asked everyone else in the lodge and all they is his name is Mooseman. I can't give him a ticket unless I know his real name. OK I'll find out for you Matt. :police: THE MAYOR :flag:
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Aweful colorful this morning, you guys need to go fishing. You guys are acting like my cat from this miserable weather! HI black Alby! Your question SimpleCarpy- if you take the next left off 2 onto vorea church rd.( rt 50) there's good fishing below that bridge. Got to do a little walking, but small water for you and your young daughter. They do go way above there and I here people fish for them off new scriba drive(next right), but too small for me up there! Have fun and say Hi to Joe for Me! ;D
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I believe that you are are all addicted to these cold blooded equatic vertabrates, and they seem to have a perpetual effect on your behaviors. ???
What do you have next to your computer a dictionary, oh you probably just call Jeffrey Dammer! Lot of big words for such a small person! :rotflol:
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Hey Snagger, The surgeon general never said there was anything wrong with being addicted to fishing!! Maybe we should have a discussion with Trapper to help Black Albatraz with this one!!LOL ;D--KingPerch
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WHERE IS TRAPPER? I haven't had a good debate in a while with him!
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WWHERE IS TRAPPER?
He just sent me a PM, I think he is still on, I'll check. Be right back!!--KingPerch
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No, He's gone! Hows the fishing on the river today Snagger?
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No, He's gone! Hows the fishing on the river today Snagger?
I imagine slower, but still good! Every spring theres a few key days when the river or creeks drop & it's a bonanza. With all the snowmelt coming there will be a few more key days this Spring. Catch ya later man!
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NO RIVER REPORTS, but got a cell phone call and the creeks came down good with temps in the 20's last night! Even the bigger ones are fishable! Can't wait to hear next report! Because once it warms up, it won't be a ghost town up here anymore! :cursing:
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Ghost town isn't the word for it wow!!!!
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just talked to a couple of buds that were out today on the river the word is they "smashed" them did'nt get details but if they said it was good it must have been REALLY GOOD!!! :o :o :o :o
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I confered with Dahmer" AHHHHH, whats up " was the unjust extent of his vocabulary at this time, although he did mention something about some girls freckles.
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I confered with Dahmer" AHHHHH, whats up " was the unjust extent of his vocabulary at this time, although he did mention something about some girls freckles.
WUZ UP BLACK ALBY are you coming up??
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Ghost town isn't the word for it wow!!!!
With all the catch and release, natural reproduction, lower limits and now no people, I hope all the hungry dropbacks don't go back to the lake & eat all the alewives to the point of a posible Collapse. Northwoods you better do your part and harvest a few, I would but can't stand the taste of them! What do you think about all these Browns spawning in the river this year will do to the Naturally reproduced steelheads in the future? I say harvest them, I don't want to see steelie numbers down in the future! I hear there trying to lower the brown limit to 1 now to too. Are they trying to Cause a Lake Ontario Collapse! Let the Charters and other boaters harvest them responsibly and leave the limits alone! Stream fisherman should practice a little harvesting too once in a while!
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I have a huge amount of showings over the next three days. I blew alot of the weekend ones off last week, because I thaught that I was going to be up there. Dahmer is comming north I know. If i can get the yes dear to do them I will definately be up. >:(
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Hey Northwoods You should have a boat full this weekend!!
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I don't know what is going on i wish i could have went to the state of the lake meeting a coulple of month's ago !!! i will have to get in touch with FRAN and see what he has to say!!!
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Hey Northwoods You should have a boat full this weekend!!
I HOPE SO !! I HAD A LOT OF CANCELED TRIPS BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER HOPE I CAN FIT THEM ALL IN IT IS GOING TO BE BUSY ALL AT ONCE.
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When the Cayuga Lake Rainbows collapsed, the biologists back then said there was a direct correlation with competing juvenile brown trout in streams that helped cause it! They also said too many predators too little bait in the broad lakes! We have had a very healthy Eastern lake Ontario 3 years and running. What happens to the stock market when it gets too good? I'll give you a hint-crash! I hope I'm Wrong!
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OK guy you got me!! I can be up there Sunday Morning.. I have a ton of sac tied up I want to get in on the Action. Its been to long, Nov was the last time I hook into a steelhead and I was with Todd from strike zone doing a trip. It being Easter the foot traffic should be light. I am thinking mid morning, 10am. Snagger I'll send you a PM with my Cell..
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how is saturday looking? might head up to try for some, still schoolhouse pool doing best?
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Just to keep your blood flowing.
Gotta have a pic now and then.
Good Luck Guys!
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HI SNAGGER, I visualize you sitting at your favorite crappie spot catching one after another :clapping: Oh, whose that sitting over there with a black hooded sweatshirt hiding. You know who it is, it's moosemans friend. :police: Be careful :nono: THE MAYOR
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Hey MAYOR I heard the boys did a round up down at the crappie spot last week, I wasn't there though! Got people for not carrying their licenses, nothing major! Doesn't matter to me, I don't like cleaning more than 15 anyway! I heard it was a undercover operation though! ;D why is your screen so big & blank!
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how is saturday looking? might head up to try for some, still schoolhouse pool doing best?
As far as the river is concerned for a Bank angler, the schoolhouse would be your one of your best bets. There are alot of spawning fish right now where ever there is Gravel. So there's many area's in the upper River with gravel that are decent right now if can reach them! There's Islands around Ellis Cove, but the water is high and there's diversions above the Trestle hole and below the elementary school that are reasonable! GOOD LUCK! :thumbup_smilie:
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CREEKS UPDATE: they came down alot due to Very cold air temps. They also cleared right up making the fish very spooky! The bigger ones were perfect Green, but the bite was off from colder water temps. Wish I had better news, but that's the way it was! I had guys out that got fish, but not a bananza by any means, need Warmer weather! Didn't hear anything on the River today! The guys who went out, did go out late, so it could have been better in the morning!
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HeyMayor, Snagger said we were getting to colorful.One of my posts was to let him know that i was bringing THE JACKSON FIVE with me next week but mike cant make it that's why there's only 4
every time i try to insert these faces it erases my post
Bunker, Are you happy ;D with your new diving bell ? Puff Daddy ordered one with the optional underwater smoke stack so he could see more steelhead than there really are. :thumbup_smilie: So where do you plan on entering ? Upstream by the down tree :w00t: or off the rocks :nono: Regardless i'll be there to watch the show :clapping: I'm sure you & Puff Daddy will put on a great show :bowdown: THE MAYOR Hi Snagger, Any white car sitings near the green bridge today ? Tell me the truth were you driving around with Talula. :o I see your getting more snow . See you soon. :o THE MAYOR
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I went to the Lake meetings and they said they had no reason to believe that there would be a decrease for next year. They have had some really good year classes creating the recent good fishing and it looked like another good year class to maintain it. The bait fish numbers in the lake are still down.
If we could only teach them to eat gobies :laugh:
Jeff
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CREEKS UPDATE: they came down alot due to Very cold air temps. They also cleared right up making the fish very spooky! The bigger ones were perfect Green, but the bite was off from colder water temps. Wish I had better news, but that's the way it was! I had guys out that got fish, but not a bananza by any means, need Warmer weather! Didn't hear anything on the River today! The guys who went out, did go out late, so it could have been better in the morning!
SNAGGER, I see you got more snow, cold & probably no sun. Here it's sunny, no wind, no clouds 54 at 11 a.m. grass is green & trees are budding, ocean is flat, air is fresh & crisp & SHANIE is running up & down the beach chasing the sea gulls. Wish you were here. THE MAYOR P.S.- WHAT ARE YOU COOKING FOR EASTER DINNER ?
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HEY SNAGGER, WHERE YOU GET THEM #1 SIZE 92625 HOOKS , HEARD THEY WORK THE BEST! HOWS THAT SWEATSHIRT FIT?
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I went to the Lake meetings and they said they had no reason to believe that there would be a decrease for next year. They have had some really good year classes creating the recent good fishing and it looked like another good year class to maintain it. The bait fish numbers in the lake are still down.
If we could only teach them to eat gobies :laugh:
Jeff
Glad you brought that to my attention, I feel a little better now about the Eastern end of the Lake. Last year all of the browns I cleaned in May, were full of GOBIES but if the lake trout populations comes back to 1990's levels, something is going to half to give! >:( There's also a 2 year classes of Salmon that are going to be down a little in 2-3 years from the year the hatchery had problems with high water temps and the Drought! So I feel even better now! I'm still worried about too many browns in a steelhead river though!
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HEY SNAGGER, WHERE YOU GET THEM #1 SIZE 92625 HOOKS , HEARD THEY WORK THE BEST! HOWS THAT SWEATSHIRT FIT?
It's #2's for Salmon and #6's for steelies and I have plenty. I wore your sweatshirt ice fishing. You have to bring a large up for little dave!
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Are they trying to rehabilitate the Landlock Salmon or is that on hold. I have seen a number of fish hooked by the spey guys in upper parts of the river in late summer and early fall. I am curious as to what the future will hold. The S.R. is obviously dependable as far as the Steelhead goes. Will there be competition with Skamanians if the Landlocks come back in good numbers.
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JERRY is alittle under the weather if you can't tell !!!! LOL
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HEY SNAGGER, WHERE YOU GET THEM #1 SIZE 92625 HOOKS , HEARD THEY WORK THE BEST! HOWS THAT SWEATSHIRT FIT?
HEY THE 2XL FITS ME PRETTY GOOD BUT GET ME A 3XL NEXT TIME IF YOU CAN THANKS A LOT!!!
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Today was a pretty good day for us went out mid morning and saw very few people the fish were giving us attention today !!! Only fished a few spots and found some nice ones the plugs worked pretty good for us in the schoolhouse. White egg sacks worked in a couple of other spots too!!! Here is a pic of JERRY and DAVE witha acouple we landed after some nice battles!!! (https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi688.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv248%2Fnorthwoodsoutfitters%2Fapril9pics006.jpg&hash=cc109d14fdf662d6feed3e0ddbcf3031)
They only look that way because of yesterday's Steel Cage Match, the bars didn't help either. Wait til MAYOR sees this!
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I forgot about that!!!!
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Are they trying to rehabilitate the Landlock Salmon or is that on hold. I have seen a number of fish hooked by the spey guys in upper parts of the river in late summer and early fall. I am curious as to what the future will hold. The S.R. is obviously dependable as far as the Steelhead goes. Will there be competition with Skamanians if the Landlocks come back in good numbers.
They( federal agencies/ DEC) have been stocking about the same amount of atlantics for over 2 decades I believe. There not the same strain of fish that are in the finger lakes! Some years a few more come back than other years, but this program, if it wasn't funded by the federal goverment would have been scrapped years ago! It's very unsucessful at best. These fish have reproductive problems due to thiamin! The Skamanians just come in the river earlier, they still spawn in late winter & spring like most steelhead! Those fish in the upper fly zones are just hatchery extra's and breeders they have to put somewhere!
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I noticed this past fall my clients and other guides as well as myself saw a little bit more than normal and smaller than normal atlantics but nothing to crazy !!! Just a fluke thing probably
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I noticed this past fall my clients and other guides as well as myself saw a little bit more than normal and smaller than normal atlantics but nothing to crazy !!! Just a fluke thing probably
Every year for the last 18 years of fish cleaning on the Salmon River, I usually see about 6 or 8 come thru compared to thousands of kings and coho's. And the state stocks ALOT of Atlantics! The recruitment ratio is horrible!
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BUNKER, THE DINNER MENU IS AS FOLLOWS ; SNAGGER IS COOKING ONE OF HIS FAMOUS EASTER SUNDAY MEALS - IT CONSISTS OF WORLD CLASS BAKED FILLET OF SUCKER FISH, FRIED SALMON EGGS , OVER A BED OF RICE PLUS TALULA SALAD & HIS IMFAMOUS GUT BARREL SOUP. LETS NOT FORGET CHILLED O'DOULS. FOR DESSERT - HOMEMADE BROWNIES. DINNER TIME 2 P.M. $10 A MAN COME EARLY FOOD WON'T LAST. THE MAYOR
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I'm going to have 2 plates and then visit the "MAIN OFFICE" if you know what i mean!! :o :o :o
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I'm going to have 2 plates and then visit the "MAIN OFFICE" if you know what i mean!! :o :o :o
For real, I have two hams in the chest freezer and Rob's coming up! Maybe we will have a dinner, I don't have very much walleye left. Maybe I can find some perch or crappie somewhere to go with the hams!
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River & creeks Report: From what I heard the drift boats did very well today at all ends of the river. I had a few guys in the schoolhouse that did well on medium size browns and a few steelies on pink worms and egg sac's in pink & white under floats! Didn't hear anything on the creeks about fishing today, but the water was rising a little towards dark from snowmelt! Most of my friends don't like the creeks when they are low. The Sandies should be at a medium stained level for the next couple of days, making it borderline fishable for some. I prefer them on the high side myself up top! Goodluck everybody! Oh wait Bobber Down! :clapping:
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BUNKER, THE DINNER MENU IS AS FOLLOWS ; SNAGGER IS COOKING ONE OF HIS FAMOUS EASTER SUNDAY MEALS - IT CONSISTS OF WORLD CLASS BAKED FILLET OF SUCKER FISH, FRIED SALMON EGGS , OVER A BED OF RICE PLUS TALULA SALAD & HIS IMFAMOUS GUT BARREL SOUP. LETS NOT FORGET CHILLED O'DOULS. FOR DESSERT - HOMEMADE BROWNIES. DINNER TIME 2 P.M. $10 A MAN COME EARLY FOOD WON'T LAST. THE MAYOR
WOW! Five coarse meal, I'm glad i not getting there until Tuesday hopefully all the leftovers will be gone by then
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Yea Jerry looks little under the weather... Is he gonna be up there Monday? Tell him i said hi! Steve is planning on comming up too this monday!!
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Yea Jerry looks little under the weather... Is he gonna be up there Monday? Tell him i said hi! Steve is planning on comming up too this monday!!
I'm looking out my front window and only 3 cars in the parking lot and Sunny out! WOW! cold morning to say the least 24 degrees!
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Cant wait to get up there!! Im bringing the boy and gf along to tangle with some of dem fish... Bryce hasnt caught a steelie yet and i plan on getting him into a few!! Actually for that matter my gf hasnt caught one either...
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Any you guys know the name of the Taxidermy Shop that Dave Fish runs? I really like his work and I'm wondering if he has a website??
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Any you guys know the name of the Taxidermy Shop that Dave Fish runs? I really like his work and I'm wondering if he has a website??
Issiah he does alot of work up here, but I think he comes up from Whitneypoint or somewhere down in the southern teir! If you get one of his cards up here somewhere maybe he has a website! Good luck!
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I know All Seasons is a drop off spot for him maybe they'll have a card; I thought there was another shop over that way that was a drop off for him also?
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CREEKS AND RIVER REPORT: Had alot of guests out yesterday and today. They said fishing just average in most area's. There are certain hot spots from place to place as always! Best riggs have been white/pink egg sac's under floats. We need to have some real warm weather to get rid of the Snow in upper reaches, then a good rain to re-raise all of the creeks with slightly warmer water! If this does not occur the fish will just bleed in,Spawn and then bleed out without any monster days! Great year for the drift boats however with all this 1800cfs since March! NOTE: the smaller creeks are very low & clear! The Sandies are perfect, but compared to other years, less fish! GOOD LUCK!
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Ever have any luck on Grindstone Creek down below the bridge on Rte. 3? I tried it one spring, it looked real good but I didn't see any salmonoids at all and I covered quite a bit of water.
I know guys do well at the mouth at Selkirk Shores, probably gonna give that a shot real early one morning here soon. Was wondering if exploring the creek part below the estuary again would be worthwhile...
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Ever have any luck on Grindstone Creek down below the bridge on Rte. 3? I tried it one spring, it looked real good but I didn't see any salmonoids at all and I covered quite a bit of water.
I know guys do well at the mouth at Selkirk Shores, probably gonna give that a shot real early one morning here soon. Was wondering if exploring the creek part below the estuary again would be worthwhile...
The fish go way above there! There could be some though. The water over on that creek is a heavily stained color that I don't like, plus it's posted pretty bad. They do go way up that creek into 3 different branches if you look at a Delorme map. There's a dam in Fernwood on the main branch! Get a day without too much wind, the cement at Selkirk wouldn't be a bad spot to hit for occasional browns. The boats are fishing real close!
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Just watched the local weather looks like temps in the 50's or better all next week, that should really help out the fishing in the tributaries! Late day report:Creeks were a little crowded, but my guests did pretty good in the afternoon! :thumbup_smilie:
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Any you guys know the name of the Taxidermy Shop that Dave Fish runs? I really like his work and I'm wondering if he has a website??
Hey Issiah I've got a walleye from Oneida I want mounted, never had a walleye done before. Have you seen any of his work on eyes before?
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BUNKER, THE DINNER MENU IS AS FOLLOWS ; SNAGGER IS COOKING ONE OF HIS FAMOUS EASTER SUNDAY MEALS - IT CONSISTS OF WORLD CLASS BAKED FILLET OF SUCKER FISH, FRIED SALMON EGGS , OVER A BED OF RICE PLUS TALULA SALAD & HIS IMFAMOUS GUT BARREL SOUP. LETS NOT FORGET CHILLED O'DOULS. FOR DESSERT - HOMEMADE BROWNIES. DINNER TIME 2 P.M. $10 A MAN COME EARLY FOOD WON'T LAST. THE MAYOR
And I left early after a long day of fishin! My ma is just havin Ham.
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And I left early after a long day of fishin! My ma is just havin Ham.
Didn't even see you black alby, I went fishing in the afternoon down to Oneida, after I picked up the Tornado mess from last nights card game! Did you and Jeffrey Dammer fish together?
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Yo Snagger arrived early am today,I am sure you heard. You were snorin and droolin . must have been some wet fishin dream huh? Dahmer was nowhere . Then Fred came in and we went to the tribs. Some areas were ok. Dahmer finally joined us half headed. It worked out great. he would drop us off, and we would walk tribs. He would sleep in his truck and pick us up a mile up. Hows that for service? Sorry I missed you. Had to come back to take my mom to easter service. cya
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Did Dammer have a slight hangover, Card game was still going strong at 4am when I got up to take a wizz! Hey BUNKER Keep missing your calls, I'll get a hold of you tomorrow. Are you still coming tuesday, Glenn wants to time another trip with you like last year!
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Did Dammer have a slight hangover, Card game was still going strong at 4am when I got up to take a wizz! Hey BUNKER Keep missing your calls, I'll get a hold of you tomorrow. Are you still coming Tuesday, Glenn wants to time another trip with you like last year!
Ill be there Tuesday by the time you get up
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I'm glad to see your temp's will be up next week the dog and i went out this morning and the puddles from yesterdays rain were frosen, that's rare to see in mid April here
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Hey Issiah I've got a walleye from Oneida I want mounted, never had a walleye done before. Have you seen any of his work on eyes before?
Actually I don't think I have, unless the ones at all seasons are?? I've seen mostly salmonoids and a smallmouth His trout and salmon are as good as I have seen!! If you go to Gander Mountain in New Hartford area he did the Salmon and Trout that are in the fishing section.
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RIVER REPORT:Some of my guests did great with medium sized browns(3-6lbs.) on the river, using certified minnows. They wouldn't tell me where, cause they now know I'm on the computer, but I'm sure just one of the larger pools somewhere! Talked to a couple of Guides who did well plugging in this Green Water yesterday! CREEKS REPORT good am bite on white sacs on the bigger ones, then it shut down as the water is getting low & water temps are Very cold as well! Getting to be too many suckers in the way when running a float. The guys have developed a new sport-float lifting suckers,( can't help it so many in some runs) although I've seen float lifting steelies on the river and over at the Genesee River before, so I guess it's not new!
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I just read a post about cowboy roaping or something silly like that. All I can say is when someone else is hooking more fish than yourself, don't get jealous and accuse him of unethical behavior. Just put your time in like the rest of us and learn how to fish! Sorry, but I had to Vent a little bit. I thought Myfishfinder was going to be fun like Ice Shanty was, but all it seems to be over here is a bunch of Whining and bashing other fisherman whom don't fish the same way another one does! If this guy is a well respected guide with 20 years experience or just a newbie( it doesn't really matter) then all I got to say is, It's a Big River with many ways to fish for steelhead and if someone is fishing in a manner you don't particularly care for, then keep rowing and there will be another pool just around the corner! :thumbup_smilie: Thanks and Hope Everyone Has a Great Season! :clapping:
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I AM WITH YOU !
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instead of bashing them, follow the oldest rule of fishing "copy the guy catching fish" ;D ;D ;D
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How did Big Jim do on the water today? Did he get out?
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How did Big Jim do on the water today? Did he get out?
A little to rough out there for his boat today, but he did get it all rigged and ready to go for next weekend though! WWHHAATTTTT SSSSUUUUUPPPPPPPP!!!!!!BLACK ALBY!!
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Actually I don't think I have, unless the ones at all seasons are?? I've seen mostly salmonoids and a smallmouth His trout and salmon are as good as I have seen!! If you go to Gander Mountain in New Hartford area he did the Salmon and Trout that are in the fishing section.
What did his smallmouth look like he did! Have you ever been down to fish wish on rt. 3! What do you think of there work! I haven't had a fish done in a while! This fish was a personal best, so I want it to be good! THANKS!
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I just read a post about cowboy roaping or something silly like that. All I can say is when someone else is hooking more fish than yourself, don't get jealous and accuse him of unethical behavior. Just put your time in like the rest of us and learn how to fish! Sorry, but I had to Vent a little bit. I thought Myfishfinder was going to be fun like Ice Shanty was, but all it seems to be over here is a bunch of Whining and bashing other fisherman whom don't fish the same way another one does! If this guy is a well respected guide with 20 years experience or just a newbie( it doesn't really matter) then all I got to say is, It's a Big River with many ways to fish for steelhead and if someone is fishing in a manner you don't particularly care for, then keep rowing and there will be another pool just around the corner! :thumbup_smilie: Thanks and Hope Everyone Has a Great Season! :clapping:
WELL PUT SNAGGER!! :)
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What did his smallmouth look like he did! Have you ever been down to fish wish on rt. 3! What do you think of there work! I haven't had a fish done in a while! This fish was a personal best, so I want it to be good! THANKS!
snagger, check out larrys taxidermy. he is located up the road from you on tubbs road. he has a few bass in his shop now that you can look at. he does very nice work. he did a crappy for me, execellent job. phone is 298 4076
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speaking of taxidermy, how do you store a fish in between catching it and getting it stuffed. don't have a fish now but it would be useful for future reference.
thanks,
fishman
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speaking of taxidermy, how do you store a fish in between catching it and getting it stuffed. don't have a fish now but it would be useful for future reference.
thanks,
fishman
I've always taken a towel and completly drenched it with water, then wrapped it around the fish. then place the fish carefully(flat) in a chest freezer with side you want mounted faced up! If there marks from leaves or whatever on the fish, completly wash it and let it sit out for a couple of hours til the color comes back before you wrapp it up! the water bond keeps it from getting freezer burned! d
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snagger, check out larrys taxidermy. he is located up the road from you on tubbs road. he has a few bass in his shop now that you can look at. he does very nice work. he did a crappy for me, execellent job. phone is 298 4076
I go up that way alot, I'll have stop in sometime. Thanks for the info. We'll have to hook up sometime and do a little fishing some time! 1
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What did his smallmouth look like he did! Have you ever been down to fish wish on rt. 3! What do you think of there work! I haven't had a fish done in a while! This fish was a personal best, so I want it to be good! THANKS!
I'm waiting for Maggie at Fish Wish to finish up a Steelhead for me any day now (Caught last April, 1yr Apprx. Turn around)
She did a lot of the fish mounts at Fat Nancy's....From the mounts I've seen she uses more paint than most, A unique look to her mounts... Woody's has a couple from her also... I'll send a picture of it when I get it back if you wanna see how it came out. Smallmouth is my least favorite of the mounts at Gander, It's got a little bit of that wrinkled look to it, but still a nice lookin mount.
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I'm waiting for Maggie at Fish Wish to finish up a Steelhead for me any day now (Caught last April, 1yr Apprx. Turn around)
She did a lot of the fish mounts at Fat Nancy's....From the mounts I've seen she uses more paint than most, A unique look to her mounts... Woody's has a couple from her also... I'll send a picture of it when I get it back if you wanna see how it came out. Smallmouth is my least favorite of the mounts at Gander, It's got a little bit of that wrinkled look to it, but still a nice lookin mount.
If you ever want to see the best mounted steelhead I've ever seen, go to stonies campground. It's hanging above his computer it's a 26lb monster a custumer never paid for and left there years ago. Not too much paint, not too much gloss and can still see scales. It's perfect, I've been trying to buy it for years! I've got 3 over 20lbs on my wall but there not the greatest mounts. I had a 23.49lber in my freezer and accidentally unplugged it and it rotted. Big mistake! I think the lady from fish wish did stonies fish, what a job!
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Being that this walleye is a personal best (29 inches, 8.9lbs) from Oneida I'm looking for somebody that specializes in just walleye if there is such a guy. It would be in my lodge for everyone to see, so he could get future bus. posibly. I wouldn't be involved, already went thru that years ago, not fun! I referr people to guiding,tackle,and taxidermy thats all!
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Congratulations Snagger You are a senior member now! I wondered how long that would take. Yoyu got almost everyone you know on this site talking. Maybe you baught some stock huh? The amazing far reaching power of the big fish head! :D
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hey guys i'm here i was just busy. I think the river has been pretty good i've been hearing some mixed stories how it has been not good at all. My take has been just fish hard stay where you know their should be fish they will bite if you work them.
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:thumbup_smilie: GOOD JOB NORTHWOODS! :thumbup_smilie: I needed an updated river report, most of my guests have been fishing the creeks, but there getting way to low! Most anglers don't have a boat so the main river has been tough for most of them!
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I know it's tough but they are there! White egg sacks seem to be key the bead is working also sun orange is the color it sticks out more the water has been colored up but today it started to clear up a little . HOPE TH IS HELPS SOME ANGLERS ;D ;D
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Thanks for the info Northwoods, kind of refreshing to talk about fishing, instead of all the whining around this site!
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I know it's tough but they are there! White egg sacks seem to be key the bead is working also sun orange is the color it sticks out more the water has been colored up but today it started to clear up a little . HOPE TH IS HELPS SOME ANGLERS ;D ;D
HEY NORTHWOODS , MY BUDDY DOUG FROM NJ WANTS TO COME UP THURS OR FRI THIS WEEK, TOLD HIM ABOUT YOUR PICS, SAID HE WILL CALL YOU TOMMO. NICE FISH . FYI, I DONT HAVE ANY XXXL. YOU BETTER DROP A FEW BIG GUY!!!
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:thumbup_smilie: GOOD JOB NORTHWOODS! :thumbup_smilie: I needed an updated river report, most of my guests have been fishing the creeks, but there getting way to low! Most anglers don't have a boat so the main river has been tough for most of them!
HEY SNAGGER, BEEN SEEING YOUR UNCLE AROUND THE CREEKS AT ALL??? BET HE MISSES ME! IM UP EARLY THIS MORN, GOING GOBBLE GOBBLE HUNTIN. WENT FISHING DOWN HERE FOR 1ST DAY OF JERSEY LAST SAT, CAUGHT OVER 40, 12 INCHERS AND GOT BORED , WALKED UP STREAM AND STARTED SNAGGING 5 LB SUCKERS!! IT WAS JUST MORE FUN. I WILL GET ANOTHER SWEAT SHIRT FOR DAVE WHEN I COME UP. HE ISNT A XXXL IS HE!!!!!!
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Hey I was over to the Michigan page I think there sucker spearing season starts today! What were you doing to those suckers, god don't bring the ethic's police to my page! See you soon buddy, my uncle Johnny has only been up in this area a few times this year!
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The creeks are low & cold, the River is high & cold!But hopefully within a couple of days the warmer weather will get the creeks up, and warm the River a little too! Fishing has just been average at best for most lately, but I think that is about to change! ;D GOOD LUCK & ENJOY THE WEATHER!
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This one was a pig 16 to 17 pounds!!! :o :o :o(https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi688.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv248%2Fnorthwoodsoutfitters%2Fapril11pics011.jpg&hash=4741ad4f097815dae2aa518daaab69eb)SWEET
You guys look like your having a blast. nice fish. I might be up next weekend. First day this sat. for me here. I have scoped out a ten pound Palomino. I am psyched !
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Lakes on Fire for browns guys!
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Guys here put a long day in, But did pretty good on steelies! Warm weather already helping!
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Hey Snagger, Joe from Willowbrook Taxiderny in weedsport does a great job on walleye. I know he did the 13 pounder that came out of caz. He has done a few fish for me and is in the proccess of doing a walleye for me now. Could be a bit of a drive for you, but a fish like that its worth it. His # is (315)834-6275.
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Hey Snagger, Joe from Willowbrook Taxiderny in weedsport does a great job on walleye. I know he did the 13 pounder that came out of caz. He has done a few fish for me and is in the proccess of doing a walleye for me now. Could be a bit of a drive for you, but a fish like that its worth it. His # is (315)834-6275.
Hey thanks for the heads up man! Wow! 13lber out of caz. that's Lake ontario status!
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You guys look like your having a blast. nice fish. I might be up next weekend. First day this sat. for me here. I have scoped out a ten pound Palomino. I am psyched !
Should be timing it pretty good wire!
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Hey NJGooseBuster dave is a large and I've miss placed my XL. Hey my uncle Johnny came up and went to South Sandy today! Give me a shout! I'll be taking water temperatures tomorrow to see where were at!
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I'm not trying to rain on anyones parade or anything, but with the last 3 years being some of the best steelhead fishing I have ever seen in over 30 years of fishing here! And the last 2 years being some of the biggest numbers of browns taken on the eastern end of Lake Ontario since the late 80's & one great salmon run after another on the Salmon River since 98! Is there anyone else out there that is starting to get worried about a possible collapse of the fishery as we know it if this continues without any responsible harvesting! I've heard rumors of a 1 fish limit on steelies in the lake & trying for a 1 fish limit on browns on the tributaries! I make the majority of my income off of this fishery and I'm becoming very nervous & having dejavue of the finger lakes collapse! I will be bringing more up on this issue later in the season, after I have talked to some DEC Biologists in the future! THANKS! SNAGGER!
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I'm not trying to rain on anyones parade or anything, but with the last 3 years being some of the best steelhead fishing I have ever seen in over 30 years of fishing here! And the last 2 years being some of the biggest numbers of browns taken on the eastern end of Lake Ontario since the late 80's & one great salmon run after another on the Salmon River since 98! Is there anyone else out there that is starting to get worried about a possible collapse of the fishery as we know it if this continues without any responsible harvesting! I've heard rumors of a 1 fish limit on steelies in the lake & trying for a 1 fish limit on browns on the tributaries! I make the majority of my income off of this fishery and I'm becoming very nervous & having dejavue of the finger lakes collapse! I will be bringing more up on this issue later in the season, after I have talked to some DEC Biologists in the future! THANKS! SNAGGER!
aS A GUIDE YOU SHOULDN'T TELL AS MUCH AS YOU DO. tHE CUSTOMERS WILL COME BUT IF YOU KEEP TELLING THE MFF CREW Sorry hit caps lock by accident. But we have all the lurkers looking at this too. You go above and beyond letting people know whats going on. scale it back to just a river or lake and let them figure it out. if they want temps they'll PM . Wish I was closer to you I'd be in a boat with ya
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Yep ya got to be careful what you say on the open boards. I am aways posting secret spots , those are dumby spots, just cause people want a hot spot. Kust keep thr even good spots to yourself and let everyone know you know where they are. then maybe they'll stay at your lodge.
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Yep ya got to be careful what you say on the open boards. I am aways posting secret spots , those are dumby spots, just cause people want a hot spot. Kust keep thr even good spots to yourself and let everyone know you know where they are. then maybe they'll stay at your lodge.
I've been here 15 years and my clientel is word of mouth, friend tells a friend type of thing. I'm not on here trying to drum up business, if I get a few customers, so be it. I just enjoy talking to other people about fishing, the computer is sort of a new hobby that will wear off eventually like anything else new! About Secret spots, I have been telling people all my old Secret spots I fished when I was younger on Cayuga Lake! The old timers( that have since passed on) taught me and I don't want that place to be forgotten, I owe that to them!
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Took the 13 yr. old Nephew and my Dear Sweet Other out there to fish yesterday. We spent most of our time on tribs as the River was a bit high and they are not used to working higher water. We saw some nice fish and hooked up easily enough. Landing was a trial with inexperienced companions but the 'Learning' was fun and the day was great.
We were stripping ice off guides and line in the morning and stripping jackets off in the afternoon. I may have a couple more days to fish there before my Major Cancer surgery Wed. the 22nd. and hope to get some pics while I'm still able.
I appreciate all the help and suggestions over these past few years and hopefully will be able to enjoy some more after recovery, to whatever extent that may be, and continue to be a part of this board.
Many thanks.
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YOUR WELCOME! I hope the surgury goes well and your back on your feet soon!
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Fished Orwell Brook today; saw quite a few fish spawning on gravel beds. Tan Colored Stonefly nymph was hot! Also had hook ups with Prince Nymph (No Bead) & Egg Sucking Leech Pattern (Chart / Black)... Hooked 8 fish but only manage to land one...
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Fished Orwell Brook today; saw quite a few fish spawning on gravel beds. Tan Colored Stonefly nymph was hot! Also had hook ups with Prince Nymph (No Bead) & Egg Sucking Leech Pattern (Chart / Black)... Hooked 8 fish but only manage to land one...
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Great pic man, looks like you had a fun day. After looking at the pic, we've fished the same water before big guy! Heard the creeks came up a touch last couple of days from snowmelt!
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Today was a spectactular day for the guys at the house fishing the tributaries, especially the bigger ones. They said it did get a little crowded later in the morning from this beautiful weather that we are having! Alot of new chrome with the fresh water every morning & the warm daytime sun in the creeks! SHAPING UP TO BE A GREAT WEEK! Took temps ( low 40's)
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FISHING REPORT FOR THURSDAY: Another spectacular weather day & another great day of fishing for steelhead for everybody at the house. Certain spots have become crowded from all this great weather, but that happens from time to time! Guys at my house just had to come up with a different schedule than of late and continued smashing them! GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY!
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Going up to check the Big Res. to see if I can figure out when there going to lower the river back below 1200cfs. I'll see what the snowpack around that area looks like & see where the level of the Big Res. stands at! Most of our area creeks have stopped rising from snowmelt, with the exception being South Sandy! So depending on future rainfalls the Dropback season should be close for the bank angler!
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Went to the Big Res and it is about 6-7 feet down from high water mark.This tells me that theres more going out than coming in on average for the last week! The snowpack in that area is only holding on in the woods and shady areas. There was tons of water flowing down the side of the hills! If we do not get alot of rain on Monday-tuesday they will probably lower the river on Wednesday(trying to figure out these power companies is difficult at best) We will have to wait and see, then it's Dropback City! for the average bank angler.
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ANOTHER GOOD DAY on the tributaries, and the river dropback season is under way. Many reports of hard fighting dropbacks, plus tons of spawning fish all over the upper part of the river! Better get fishing for them in case there all gone by the time the river dropps!The reason I say this, remember a week or so ago, I said there was hundreds of fish under the dam across from the hatchery, yesterday there was none! They all fell back a little and are spawning, once there done, if there's still 1800cfs it's a free ride back to the lake with not much holding over! You'll have too count on the late runners!
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Wondering if any of you guys have a suggestion for tippet material. I like to use tippet as my leader under a float; especially when using nymphs. I've tried a variety of brands that are running up to about 5-6lb break strength. When a Steelhead makes a good run it usually breaks on me. Is there some sort of super strong tippet material out there or should I just accept it as part of the challenge?
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Wondering if any of you guys have a suggestion for tippet material. I like to use tippet as my leader under a float; especially when using nymphs. I've tried a variety of brands that are running up to about 5-6lb break strength. When a Steelhead makes a good run it usually breaks on me. Is there some sort of super strong tippet material out there or should I just accept it as part of the challenge?
DRENNEN Flourocarbon! It's almost invisible & strong as heck! Very exspensive, but if your only using a few feet, won't kill you! My favorite strong mono is Maxima Ultra green. not the brown stuff, it's strong and fairly invisible!
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Have to look into the Drennen; Thanx!
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Have to look into the Drennen; Thanx!
Only place that I know of that sells it is at All Season's, most of the guides who center pin use it!
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Snagger,
Went and did the wine trails this weekend with my fiancee. We fished back the feededs for the bows. We hit fall and the Salmon, She got a 19 inch landlock by herself! I never knew that are walleyes in Cayuga lake! I seen two in the fall. Both where over 26inchs. I caught one bass under the rails. I rolled a landlock just as big as her. Salmon was low and clear. I hooked three Bows and steelheads are EZ compaired to these little guys.. They do hit hard!!!...lol..
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Only place that I know of that sells it is at All Season's, most of the guides who center pin use it!
YO SNAGGER , BEEN TRYING TO GET YOU ALL DAY, WAS GOING TO COME UP TONIGHT. ITS TO LATE NOW :( GIMME A BUZ ASAP ;D
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Snagger,
Went and did the wine trails this weekend with my fiancee. We fished back the feededs for the bows. We hit fall and the Salmon, She got a 19 inch landlock by herself! I never knew that are walleyes in Cayuga lake! I seen two in the fall. Both where over 26inchs. I caught one bass under the rails. I rolled a landlock just as big as her. Salmon was low and clear. I hooked three Bows and steelheads are EZ compaired to these little guys.. They do hit hard!!!...lol..
Me and a couple of buddies back in the early 90's used to do the wine tours, like $40 per person in a limo and hit every winery in area! We got put on a black list( no more wine trips allowed for us) after our last adventures! Looks like you hit some of my old stomping grounds, I grew up 3 or 4 blocks from the falls or the black Iron bridge on Fall Creek! Great salmon in that place years ago, walleyes been spawning in there in numbers for about 10 years now!
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YO SNAGGER , BEEN TRYING TO GET YOU ALL DAY, WAS GOING TO COME UP TONIGHT. ITS TO LATE NOW :( GIMME A BUZ ASAP ;D
Going to rain the next 2 days anyway, what am I supposed to wait around for your phone calls all day, got fish to catch, you heard my message, wasn't that enough for a decision?
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These fishing reports just keep getting easier Fishing been great everywhere! Small creeks need rain bad, there's some in the forecast! There's Chrome, spawners, and now droppies! A little bit of everything for everybody!
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I have just heard that 2 fellow drift boat guides have lost their father! Everyone here at A.O.L. would like to give our prayers and condolences to them and there families at this very sad time!
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Winds ripping so bad up here I got full tabs of shingles from my roof on my lawn! Can't believe we have power! Guys were killing them on the river, but had to take break from wind! One guy said he saw a drift boat pick up a guy floating down the river. Another woman half naked in the parking lot from river swimming too! Sounds like it was comical down there today! Fish EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK!
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Snagger, I will be up with joey sat.. I forgot walleye does not start until may. There might be 3 of us. I will let you know.
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Snagger, I will be up with joey sat.. I forgot walleye does not start until may. There might be 3 of us. I will let you know.
River fishing is on fire, even at 1800cfs, That's a great level for boats, but usually a little too high for shore anglers! Just so many fish, Can't do anything wrong, no matter where you go in Altmar! your right, Walleye is the next weekend( May 2nd)!
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still going to be good this weekend?
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still going to be good this weekend?
It will be great as long as it's fishable. Half to play it day by day with this rain & last of tugs snowmelt this week. Most of my regulars are just about done, so it will be more difficult to get reports after this weekend, plus I'm a walleye nut these days, used to be a diehard steelheader. Just go once in a while now! Just check back in at the end of the week!
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Just drove by the Big Res. and it's come up quite a bit to about 2 1/2 feet below high water mark. Still stubborn snow under the hemlocks and shady area's! So with some rain and more snowmelt, looks like the river should stay at 1800cfs! There's a small chance it could come down for a few days, but I doubt it! This weekend's near record breaking heat should melt that stubborn snow like a lava flow! Then the Res will be full, have a small blow out, and get this river back down! This has to be most days I've ever seen it at 1800cfs in a row, if you take out those few days at 4,000!
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The VT. boys said the River was still great down around the Ellis Cove area today! We had a Spectacular Lightning Storm this evening(The Shelf cloud ahead of it was Amazing) there was wind, hail, and heavy rains, the last thing the river needed! It looked like on radar it went over the Tug Hill area too! This should help the smaller creeks and bigger tributaries with a little extra water! About 3/8's of an inch in 10 minutes!Go out & get'em boys before there gone!
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Hay Snagger,
I for got to ask you the other night if you have any of the size 10 catis hooks I was looking for? I need them for first thing Friday morning!
Let me know what you have ASAP So I know what I need to do. 8)
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I'm out of hooks too - let me know if you have any for Saturday.
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Hey Wirestone, I think I got what you need, LV your going to half to hit All Season's on your way in! I'm still out and haven't ordered any more! If you by diachi, make sure it's the the bigger gauge wire off set caddis hook! ( heavy scud 1120 not 1130)!
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3 of us for sat. night. BE UP SAT. MORNING. Is 8lb ok on my fly rod? I am trying to set up a few rods for Joey.
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Snagger what time do they open?
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Snagger what time do they open?
Got to be early, it's Main steelhead Season. Hey Wire 8's perfect, waters high, can always dropp to 4 or 6 for leader, if in a larger pool or if around spooky fish!
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RIVER"S GOING DOWN TO 1150cfs Tonight & temps in the 70's & 80's Let the steelcage match begin! :w00t:
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Im Down with that! I'll B the guy with dynamite strapped 2 me! Clears out the spot at my fav pool every time! :evil:
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the great fishing and i have not time, why does this always happen to me :'(
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Usually happens to me also. Wife is mad but im goin fishin ;D Cya early Snagger!!! Have not told Dahmer yet, hes stewin.
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Won't be able to miss me, I'll be the guy dressed up like Jimmy Superfly Snooka with a 10 foot 7 weight fly rod! I'll be at E.C. or S.S.
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the great fishing and i have not time, why does this always happen to me :'(
As long as it doesn't get too warm, too fast and the water keeps dropping! theres good dropback fishing well into May! This weekend will be Silly with good weather, but after this weekend crowds will dropp right off, always does! Just bring some deet or a couple bounce dryer sheets for the black flies soon!
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Yesterday was an average day for some and a great day for others. just depended where/when you fished. River came down even more to 750cfs by afternoon. this is really playing havic with the fish. Dam changes are not natural, so it takes time for the fish to trust the level it changes to. we call it change over days, usually takes 1 change over day til fish are set up in there new runs or pools! Then the fishing gets more consistant, like today probably, if the river stays down! Just got 3 hours of lightning & downpours, plus still a little snow up there yet! GOOD LUCK GOING TO BE CROWDED!
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You're not kidding about the storm rolling through! I jumped right out of bed here from the thunder. Kept tellin my wife that something had to of blown up outside!?
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You're not kidding about the storm rolling through! I jumped right out of bed here from the thunder. Kept tellin my wife that something had to of blown up outside!?
Could get woke up again tonight, alot of storms up in Canada right now! Went and checked the River And Wow is it Great. Not that crowded, everyone has Fish On! everywhere I went. Could see dozens of fish in the water with glasses at the 3 spots I went to. Took alot of great photo's! Lots of ropes tied up to trees, at 1 pm couldn't see 1 drift boat in any direction I looked, No shoulder to shoulder any where! Just a spectacular day to be on the River!
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As long as the River stays below 1200cfs(750 now), the fishing is as good as it gets around here! My house is covered with black flies, but there not biting yet! Bring deet just in case they start biting!
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snagger give those little S.O.B. a couple more days warm weather and there fangs will grow
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snagger give those little S.O.B. a couple more days warm weather and there fangs will grow
Hey Fillet, wierd spring, not one bud on any of the trees and millions of black flies. They don't even land on ya yet though! I think I'm hiding on Oneida lake the whole month of May just to be safe. Maybe I'll hide on Cayuga lake the first 2 weeks of june, just to be safe! I here those little guys carry the west nile snagging virus! I really can't believe theres thousands of steelhead everywhere and very few people up here! Theres litterally so many fish, I'm afraid to cross the river with my bad ACL. Might step on steelie's the wrong way and injure myself!
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Hey snagger it sounds to me like there might be enough steelies in there for me and u to have that little show down you ve been telling me about all winter long... What u think about tuesday in between leaf piles?
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Lots of fish.
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Nice Hens Wiredstone! What a day to be steelhead fishin'!! Sure beats freezin the butt off in the middle of winter...
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Hey snagger it sounds to me like there might be enough steelies in there for me and u to have that little show down you ve been telling me about all winter long... What u think about tuesday in between leaf piles?
They were in so good today & yesterday even you could have gotten them! Got to go ,Red Sox's are on! I was raking today, better getup here monday black flies started biting today, I think the waters going back to 1500cfs Tonight from last of the snowmelt up top!
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LOOK BEHIND ME. NOBODY THERE. COULD NOT ASK FOR MORE.
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Nice fish Wiredstone, how many did you land today? :o
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The River is back to 1500cfs & probably will stay there till thursday am. if we get T-storms tuesday night! Could be another Good drop for next weekend! Good Dropback level for larger pools! Good luck & enjoy monday's 90 degree heat! River will keep you cool!
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snagger give those little S.O.B. a couple more days warm weather and there fangs will grow
Hey Fillet where did you get that 39lb. 13oz. Salmon, trolling or the River? That's funny you say the Silver Star Market, I used to be one of Crazy Mike's( Fish On Lodge) fish cleaners back in 91 & 92 before I bought my place! Me, misty, & some drifter named mark from Alaska, man I could tell you some stories from those days! I had my 23.49lb steelhead weighed at the old P&C! Bruce Walden definitely had the best collection of 20lber's I ever seen, I gave him a run for his money, but he was just too good! Hey do you remember a guy named Van who used to smoke a cigar all the time! Catch ya later!
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I landed 3 and lost 7
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Had some friends out today, the heat knocked most of the fish out of the Sandies now! They said the river fish have adjusted to the new water level pretty good. Those fish are dead set on spawning and getting out of here, if they adjusted that fast!
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nice fish , and pics wiredstone ,and all alone ,can't beat that
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Going Back too 1800cfs tonite may drop bye the weekend. Lake anyone?? Oneida was real good 2 day B freezer fillin saturday.
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hey SNAGGER just came across this, thought you'd get a kick out of it this is what happens when people take advise from the mooseman on where to fish on the saugatuck river, this is actually T's boat and if you look closely you can see he's passed out on the bow and somebody else is sleeping on the floor. This happend in the middle of town, and when the sun came up it drew a crowd
p.s. were trying to see what we can do about coming up one more time before its all over
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i bet you never saw that on a lake up there
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i bet you never saw that on a lake up there
Hey don't laugh, that one night you & Jeremy fell asleep & I stayed up all night drinking & fishing, we almost ran into that one Island when the tide was leaving! Remember! That is typical Mooseman & T though! Great Pic! That gives new Meaning to fishing the Shoals!
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Hey SNAGGER, What does the river hold in the summer months?
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Hey SNAGGER, What does the river hold in the summer months?
There used to be World Class smallmouth, but there's hardly any around these days, except the lower end of the River in mid May thru June!( I think the river system is really healthy right now with naturally reproduced salmon/trout & they eat all the baby bass.) The Skamanians still run the River in OK numbers, but they sneak in during a high water in late June & Early July, then hide in the Closed lower fly zone for the Summer! The River gets too warm for them anyway! Usually there's enough Salmon to fish for by the 20th of August in the lower River( If theres any of the river left to fish, Sen. Barkley keeps buying all of the lease rights). Catch ya later Bunker!Drift boaters Dream, looks like the river is 1800cfs again out my window!
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I'm surprised its up again, is there still allot of snow feeding it or is it the rain you've been getting?
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I'm surprised its up again, is there still allot of snow feeding it or is it the rain you've been getting?
Hit 76, 87, 80, 90, and 83 degrees last 5 days, the last of the snow up high is rapidly going fast, plus a thunderstorm 3 days ago dropped 3/8" of rain! Now it's raining pretty good! This is going to wash alot of older fish out, hopefully be some chomers coming to replace them. We'll find out in a couple of days! Still alot of spawning going on At Ellis Cove area yesterday! $100 says it's 750 for the weekend! depending on fridays rain!
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Snagger,
I took a trip up in August last summer to try targeting Skamania Steelhead. Didn't see any in the river (I fished the Schoolhouse Area) but there were quite a few on the ladder at the hatchery. If a guy was to try targeting Skamania during the summer on the river what month and section of river would you recommend?
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Snagger,
I took a trip up in August last summer to try targeting Skamania Steelhead. Didn't see any in the river (I fished the Schoolhouse Area) but there were quite a few on the ladder at the hatchery. If a guy was to try targeting Skamania during the summer on the river what month and section of river would you recommend?
Anytime there is a strong east wind that turns the lake over or a thunderstorm in June and first week of July, you could try to time a pocket of skamanians, like at the staircase. It's very difficult though. once they get to the upper part of the river, they usually hide just below the hatchery creek in the lower fly zone, which is closed to protect them! In July you can catch them at the schoolhouse pool & the trestle pool, but it's very inconsistent at best! There's a good push of them mixed in with first run of kings in late August & early September!
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Great Info! Can't thank you enough!! Any Patterns you know that might be worth trying?
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Any Suggestions on Patterns?
I've caught them on spinners with single hooks and small trout pattern rapala's in June & July, but I don't target them anymore! I get my share during late August with the Salmon though! RIVER IS GOING BACK DOWN TO 1150cfs Tonight!
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Looking forward to the challenge of catching one... Again thanx for info, that's a big help!
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I'm thinking about coming up to the Salmon river, this weekend or next week, I've heard many good things about steelhead fishing, but I'm not familiar with the river, could anyone suggest a good area i should concentrate on?
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snaggers got the hot info on the river he tells it like it is, no sugar coating
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Snagger is a friggin' encylopedia of CNY fishing knowledge!!! Thanks man!!!
I was up in the Upper Fly Zone last weekend (along with about 10,000 other anglers) and there are still tons of Steelies on the redds and in the deeper pools near the gravel bars. It was wild to see one male leave the shallows and instantly get replaced by another waiting in line. Very cool.
One fish had a giant Glo Bug stuck in his dorsal- so he was easy to distenguish and track as he cruised around.
Fish are pretty beat up that far upriver from the spawn, etc. But they still fought like freight trains!!!
Tons of fun, as usual... Egg-Sucking leeches and Wooly Buggers were the ticket all day.
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I'm thinking about coming up to the Salmon river, this weekend or next week, I've heard many good things about steelhead fishing, but I'm not familiar with the river, could anyone suggest a good area i should concentrate on?
If your new to the area, head up to the upper end of the River. In Altmar there's a parking lot on the north side of the river on county route 52, called Ellis Cove Parking Area. There are many deeper runs and good gravel for spawning fish & holding fish a like! It's a really good spot to learn how to fish for steelhead this time of year. Bring some bug spray for the black flies! The river is at 1150cfs right now, probably will drop to 750cfs by this weekend, but 1150 is OK for this spot! GOOD LUCK & Hope you enjoy yourself!
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Hey great pic's Jimmy, you don't look like Joe Dirt. Once the land transfers are complete with the power company, that new parking lot should be open for you guys! I seen all you guys parked on the side of the road when I was checking the Big Res. Pretty Amazing theres still that many way up there! You ever try that side diversion behind my house in the upper fly zone. Good high water spot, looks like alaska during the Salmon Run! And I just thought you were a Striper guy! Peace man!
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hey how is everyone?
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hey how is everyone?
GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN! now we can get some good hands on fishing reports again from the area's me and my friends don't fish. Glad your back bro!
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all my posts are gone and i see and all my pics are gone i wonder what that is? you won't see me make any comments anymore!!!!!!!
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Jim has some great pics!! Great job!!! :o :o
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all my posts are gone and i see and all my pics are gone i wonder what that is? you won't see me make any comments anymore!!!!!!!
I can still see your posts, just your pictures are gone! I wish they were back they were very nice to look at! I don't know how to do pictures yet because my computer's too slow! No more bad comments, good game plan, your too nice a guy!
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I forgot about this guy... Not sure what it was about this fish, but he was TWICE as strong as all the others!
Every fish fought like a bear, but THIS one was NUTS!!!
He got into the heavy water midstream by tailwalking about 15ft, and then once he hit the fast water he apparently decided to "drop back" all the way to Lake Ontario while still attached to my leader!!!
Took me into my backing on three seperate occassions. It was ridiculous!!! I have caught TARPON that didn't fight this dirty!!! He must have been having a real bad day, and took offense to my hook in his lip.
I was the laughing stock of the UFZ as this mutha' went under a downed tree, across the river, then back and hunkered down beneath an undecut bank to catch his breath. I had pretty much given up on him since I was pinned next to a tree, and the fish was down in the next set of rapids!!!
My buddy got out and walked downstream and found him sulking under the bank. When my buddy spooked the Steelie it took off again and the fight was back on! I thought it was going to be twice this size.
Amazingly, my buddy got the net around him, removed the fly, and brought him back up so we could get a photo of this angry Steelie before the release. It really was absurd- but the whole river was laughing!!!
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My buddy snapped this one as he headed downriver to find the fish. Might help you understand what I was up against:
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Steelheead are one helluva' good time... It was a great way to wrap up the Steelhead season!!!
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That's a great picture & Great Story, looks like the cover of a magazine! Wow hows your head feel, looks like you got alot of sun & maybe some black flie bites on ya! :bowdown:
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The sun burned all my hair off, Snagger! Can you believe it! :D
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The sun burned all my hair off, Snagger! Can you believe it! :D
That's Funny! :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: I'm 40 & still sporting the joe dirt mullet! Sorry!
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good post JIM GREAT DAY!!
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That's awesome!! Great Pics...
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Hey Jimmy those steelies are somthing, arent they? I was up there yesterday (unfortuneately they raised the water) But we managed to find sum drop backs and some spawners between school and Ellis. There is nothing like a lively steelehead fight in 1800cfs. it gets the blood pumping! Well good job and great story
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Sounds like this up comming weekend is going to be like last weekend. I stood on a log looked inthe water and seen steelies everwhere! Then I fell in.
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Sounds like this up comming weekend is going to be like last weekend. I stood on a log looked inthe water and seen steelies everwhere! Then I fell in.
OH MY GOD,YOU FELL IN AGAIN!, you should look up at Cornell & see if they have some sort of under water research classes in their fisheries department or something of that nature! You could get a degree, then you could get paid for all the time you spend on the River bottom groping around! :w00t: At least it was nice out this time!
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RIVER UPDATE: It's going Down to 750cfs Tonight! Looks like one last great weekend, then the fishing bonanza that has spoiled us will be over til next fall! Don't get me wrong there will be fishable numbers well into May, but the Bananza will be behind us! As always good luck & enjoy the weekend!
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hey northwoods lets here how it's going , it sucks to be on hold lets hear how many !!
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Was out today holy cow it is still loaded if you know where to look on the main river the back channels are done. Did good lots of them got away wth the guys hooks some nice clean fish still around i saw some beat up ones also but it is getting to be that time. have some nice pics but can't post them they put a block on me or something photobucket is all messed up. OH WELL SOMEONE MIGHT WHINE ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THE FISH ARE TOO BIG!!! LOL ::) ::) :o :o
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RIVER UPDATE: It's going Down to 750cfs Tonight! Looks like one last great weekend, then the fishing bonanza that has spoiled us will be over til next fall! Don't get me wrong there will be fishable numbers well into May, but the Bananza will be behind us! As always good luck & enjoy the weekend!
YOU ARE TO KIND MY FRIEND !!! YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT !!!
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Must have been nice northwood, was up there allday yesterday,1800 like its been for 2 months. why cant i catch a break and hit it when they lower the river... dONT GET ME WRONG I GOT INTO THEM BUT NOT LIKE i WOULD VE TODAY. Glad u did good though Its almost time to switch species
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hey northwoods lets here how it's going , it sucks to be on hold lets hear how many !!
JUST SO YOU KNOW THERE ARE NO FISH LEFT I HAD THOSE FUNNY GLASSES ON TODAY THAT HAVE PICTURES OF FISH ON THEM !!! LOL ;D ;D
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Must have been nice northwood, was up there allday yesterday,1800 like its been for 2 months. why cant i catch a break and hit it when they lower the river... dONT GET ME WRONG I GOT INTO THEM BUT NOT LIKE i WOULD VE TODAY. Glad u did good though Its almost time to switch species
you know the old saying you should have been here today don't ya!! lol it happens t everyone gad you got into them it has been good even in the high water your right . Lots of fish this whole year but i'm ready for the BIG EYES now !!!
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JUST SO YOU KNOW THERE ARE NO FISH LEFT I HAD THOSE FUNNY GLASSES ON TODAY THAT HAVE PICTURES OF FISH ON THEM !!! LOL ;D ;D
SSSSHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! Those glasses were hot sellers! I draw little lines on the bottom of the polorizers with fine tip permanent markers. looks like fish all over in the river! But my friends are always drunk anyway!
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Hey anyone got a pair of those glasses for me?
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No fish in the Diversions, who DO you THINK your talking too!
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Northwoods I have been laughing on and off for a few minutes now every time i see the (where is my float line) ^*&(()& funny!
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absolutely you will have to come back up and fish though!!! SORRY i know it is going to twist your arm!!!
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No fish in the Diversions, who DO you THINK your talking too!
OH STOP IT
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Northwoods I have been laughing on and off for a few minutes now every time i see the (where is my float line) ^*&(()& funny!
it has happened to you before i see!! it always goes down when your not looking you can stare at it for hours and soon as you don't look it's gone trust me i know
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absolutely you will have to come back up and fish though!!! SORRY i know it is going to twist your arm!!!
You know it. I hate it when i gotta go fishing cuz its gonna be good, Well thats a lie my wife hates it... Im gonna pass on this weekend and fill the freezer( eyes and turkey breasts) then when all the yahoossss are gone from the river I will go beat um up one more time. Wednesday.
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i think photo bucket must of had a server problem yesterday it is working now
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Hey post some more, I like looking at pictures( can't read or write) :rotflol: :rotflol:
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i think photo bucket must of had a server problem yesterday it is working now
Hey Northwoods, good too see your back. I had hoped to see you when i was up i hope your well and ill catch you next trip
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Fishing was excellent at the Ellis Cove area today, not that crowded & no black flies with the good breeze! just got done raining got over a half inch, could raise the river back up a little for saturday, find out friday afternoon!
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They say the water is going down to 500cfs tonight, must be the plants & trees needed a drink, because it rained pretty heavy last night. Either way fishing will be excellent for this weekend. Good luck & don't forget the deet!
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They say the water is going down to 500cfs tonight, must be the plants & trees needed a drink, because it rained pretty heavy last night. Either way fishing will be excellent for this weekend. Good luck & don't forget the deet!
ELLIS COVE IS ON FIRE! But overall fish are dropping down the river fast now, alot of darkies! Back diversions were a little crowded today, but fishing was still good! Tanks at hatchery are still full of drop backs yet to come! HAVE FUN! Got Walleye to Catch!
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ELLIS COVE IS ON FIRE! But overall fish are dropping down the river fast now, alot of darkies! Back diversions were a little crowded today, but fishing was still good! Tanks at hatchery are still full of drop backs yet to come! HAVE FUN! Got Walleye to Catch!
two questions: where is ellis cove and would the water levels probably stay the same today and tomorrow?
i may try to get up there but am still a completely newbie to the salmon river so these questions are necessary for me.
thanks
fishman
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two questions: where is ellis cove and would the water levels probably stay the same today and tomorrow?
i may try to get up there but am still a completely newbie to the salmon river so these questions are necessary for me.
thanks
fishman
Ellis cove is about 1.5 miles from the bridge in Altmar. if you know where that is... The water levels will most likely be the same unless they got a lot of rain last nite.. But either way it is a good idea to try to get up there this weekend should be a slaughter. Let me know if you need any tips or directions... catchum all
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Just got some really good reports from the Ellis Cove area! Wow, just drove over the bridge, man does that River look low! Been up so long, looks strange at this level! Well good luck, gonna go beat up on some more walleyes!
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1.5 miles downstream or up? and is it walk to or is there a parking spot nearby? i have only ever fished up there once before so thanks for the advice.
fishman
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Downstream there is a parking area with a sign that says Ellis Cove on it!
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Downstream there is a parking area with a sign that says Ellis Cove on it!
well, that makes it obvious, doesn't it ;D
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Something smells funny about this. Hey Snagger is it your 7 month old gut barrell?
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Looking out my window, looks like the River is back up to 1200-1500cfs! I thought it was a little early for trees to be drinking that much rain, darn power companies! Must have done it when I was catching eyes last night!
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well, it was another fishless trip for me, but at least this time i had a bite
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well, it was another fishless trip for me, but at least this time i had a bite
Waterline # 1-800-452-1742 code-365-123, I was walleye fishing, didn't even check to see if it was going up! Was great, before it got blown out!
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Waterline # 1-800-452-1742 code-365-123, I was walleye fishing, didn't even check to see if it was going up! Was great, before it got blown out!
i heard it was great, a guy we talked to say he caught 11 yesterday and missed around 17. and the number is for the water level?
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Waterline # 1-800-452-1742 code-365-123, I was walleye fishing, didn't even check to see if it was going up! Was great, before it got blown out!
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Fish must be re-adjusting to the new water level, cause had 7 people off the street looking for fish cleaning. Only 1 of them were out on boats! Just thought I'd give a little report, even though I'm walleye fishing! GOOD LUCK!, now they'll lower the River just to mess with us!
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Something smells funny about this. Hey Snagger is it your 7 month old gut barrell?
Yeah that barrel is in rough shape, just found 2 five gallon pails of ice fishing guts & maggets out back too! When you coming back up for some eyeball fishing Black Albey?
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Well, I would love to. I just got the boat set back up. How was last weekend? Do you have a Walleye thread going now?
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Well, I would love to. I just got the boat set back up. How was last weekend? Do you have a Walleye thread going now?
Some of us have been using oneida lake diehards so far!
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If anyone is heading up this way Today, heres what the waterline said No flow report! They usually only do that when there getting ready to flood us out, but that's not in the cards with the weather we have had! 1150cfs yesterday, probably the same or they will drop it! Hey Fishman we got to get you into some steelies! Talked to some guys after mowing the lawn that did pretty good at Ellis Cove area, some of those people off the street were getting droppies down town near 81 hole! I'd stay up here though, waters got to be big down there!
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Waterline # 1-800-452-1742 code-365-123, I was walleye fishing, didn't even check to see if it was going up! Was great, before it got blown out!
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Had some guys call & say that site wouldn't work, is it written wrong! Had a few guests make a suicide run up from NJ. say they caught alot of fish in the Islands and gravel runs above the Sportsman's pool today! Good mix of darkies and droppies! Not many black flies with the wind!
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Hey Fishman we got to get you into some steelies!
i couldn't agree more. ;D ;D i just have a few things working against me: 1) short (normal for other methods of fishing) fishing rods; 2) very little experience; 3) only weekends available, or possibly friday evenings, and it is a one hour drive so not long friday evenings.
but thanks for all the tips you guys have provided :thumbup_smilie: :bowdown: :thumbup_smilie:. i am starting to get the hang of it to where i have at lest gotten a bite, possible two, now. will it still be worth trying saturday do you think? i know this is early yo try and guess but???
oh, and if you are fishing w/ a float, it it very obvious when you get a bite or are the subtle takers, for the most part?
thanks for like the fiftieth time,
fishman
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I got extra rods hanging on the wall that some of my guests use, if they forget something! Your welcome to use one! When floats go under, they go under , can't miss it, even in the winter! Should be fish around now that it has gotten colder, BUT theres a big storm coming wednesday!
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These are a couple of buddies from CT. that came up for the first time in the spring they caught some beauties!!!(https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi688.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv248%2Fnorthwoodsoutfitters%2Fbrownsandsteelies2007.jpg&hash=70a52b43d639913a5ad0113c0260167b)
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Here is Curvin with a nice drop back hen that attacked a sac under the float. GOOD JOB!!! Pic was from my buddy Steve.(https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi688.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv248%2Fnorthwoodsoutfitters%2Fbrownsandsteelies2013.jpg&hash=482330212ac792f9621a952835c555dc)
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Hey Snagger,
Tell Beckage to get his ass home in one piece!
...2 days before my wedding and he's gotta run to NY for the last run of steelies...he's a sick pup.
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Said he was leaving at 11am & still no sign of him! Must be smashing them! He said yesterday was the 4th best trip he's ever had in 15 years! And he's had some Big one's! Hope to see ya in Salmon season, have a great wedding!
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Said he was leaving at 11am & still no sign of him! Must be smashing them! He said yesterday was the 4th best trip he's ever had in 15 years! And he's had some Big one's! Hope to see ya in Salmon season, have a great wedding!
EVERYONE WHO READS THIS THREAD SHOULD TAKE NOTICE OF THIS STATEMENT: THE ALMIGHTY SNAGGER GIVES THE MOST ACCURATE AND ON THE MONEY INFO ON THE UP TO THE MINUTE STEELHEAD FISHING REPORTS OUT OF ANYBODY ON THE RIVER, HANDS DOWN!! READ HIS POSTS, WHEN HE SAYS ITS GO TIME, ITS GO TIME.
TAKING HIS ADVISE THE OTHER DAY WE SHOT UP TO THE BIG RIVER FOR TUESDAY AND A COUPLE HOURS THIS MORNING. ME AND MY BUDDY ACTUALLY GOT TIRED OF CATCHING STEELHEAD!! IS THAT POSSIBLE? SURE IS . WE LOST COUNT AT ABOUT 80 OR SO AND THERE WERE PLENTY MORE. SIZES RANGED FROM 6 TO ABOUT 15 LBS. I HAVE BEEN FISHING UP THERE SINCE ABOUT 1993 AND THIS WAS ONE OF MY BEST TRIPS EVER. SNAGGERS WORD IS LAW WHEN IT COMES TO BIG FISH. FOLLOW HIS FISHING THREADS TO SUCCESS. THANKS FOR THE ADVISE SNAGGER, IT WAS A GREAT TRIP!
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Snagger rules...
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Thanks for the compliments, but I'm only the messenger! With the River going down to 750 & now 500cfs, the fish went threw another adjustment! There were over all less hook ups because of this, but it was still great! The cooler weather of late has held the steelies in the River longer than expected a week ago! As long as this mornings rain( less than 3/8" here) doesn't raise the river, which it shouldn't! The fish will not leave the River as fast as once thought! The spawners will be rapping up soon & then it's just hard fighting dropbacks for a while! One Note: They have recently stocked the river with thousands of juveniles( which would explain the up & down River of late) So all small stuff is out or you will be getting these little guys all day long! Either sight fish or fish the larger pools with bigger baits! GOOD LUCK! Bring some Deet!
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Had a guest from Vermont leave today a day early. He said he wishes it was more challenging, like during the winter months! You wouldn't have heard that from anyone ten years ago! He also said that there were alot more beat up fish from spawning than a few days ago, now that the River has dropped to 500cfs. Still a great report! He said there were still some screamers at are end of the river, but not as many. He ended his day with a couple of droppies or posible freshies on & lost down river! I took a look at the River over at Ellis & I could see at least a dozen fish actively spawning ( some without a mark on them)! So hopefully we got another week or so left! If you come up bring some bug spray, Wow is there some black flies! Good luck & good fishing!
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Hey snagger how the fishing in the river today just wanted to now.
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Hey snagger how the fishing in the river today just wanted to now.
Got a report from The Mayer & Puff Daddy, that it's still going strong down at Ellis Cove, but they need a blood transfusion from all the black flie bites in today's heat & humidity! Heard you bowled your first 300 game yesterday, congradulations! How's The Big Weenie making out Cod fishing in Mass?
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Snagger,
Do you have any recommendations for patterns / baits to try right now? Thinking of heading up tomorrow...
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issiah asked my first so here is my second: is ellis cove still the place to be?
thanks
fishman
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issiah asked my first so here is my second: is ellis cove still the place to be?
thanks
fishman
Most people have been sight fishing eggs,egg sacs, beads, or egg flies! Bring your polorizers, its fun to watch them spawn! From the upper trestle hole to the lower schoolhouse hole has great gravel for spawning & Ellis Cove is right in the middle of it! Bring DEET! This is probably the last of them! Before the water went way down, boats were doing good plugging dropbacks, I don't know about now! Some of them are probably over at Oswego breakwalls argueing over fishing rights or out trolling the Big Lake now!
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Got a report from The Mayer & Puff Daddy, that it's still going strong down at Ellis Cove, but they need a blood transfusion from all the black flie bites in today's heat & humidity! Heard you bowled your first 300 game yesterday, congradulations! How's The Big Weenie making out Cod fishing in Mass?
Snagher, Myself & Puffy had a great day , steelhead everywhere we went, we did very good at Muscle Shell Creek. I saw Uncle John hiding in the woods down by the muscrat hole :nono: The Mayor & Puff Daddy
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Snagher, Myself & Puffy had a great day , steelhead everywhere we went, we did very good at Muscle Shell Creek. I saw Uncle John hiding in the woods down by the muscrat hole :nono: The Mayor & Puff Daddy
My uncle John said he wasn't coming up til sunday with christopher. Well must be he came early, must be at the Bar! He really likes the outdoors, doesn't he! Say hi to Puffy! libraries still open this late?
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My uncle John said he wasn't coming up til sunday with christopher. Well must be he came early, must be at the Bar! He really likes the outdoors, doesn't he! Say hi to Puffy! libraries still open this late?
Snagher, I'm staying at the Old Portly Angler with my new friends ::) & i'm allowed to use there computer when ever i wish & yes the library is closed. Talk to you soon. THE MAYOR
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water level was 750, according to bait shop, and was a better trip w/ myself and my dad catching some small trout. still no steelhead for me though. fished around ellis cove.
fishman
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water level was 750, according to bait shop, and was a better trip w/ myself and my dad catching some small trout. still no steelhead for me though. fished around ellis cove.
fishman
Hey Fishman I got a Guy from PA. here & he said only about 6 hook ups for him this morning! But he's been fishing here for a long time & knows the River good. Sounds like it's winding down, unless your in exact locations! If we haven't gotten you a steelhead by next November, I'll come out of retirement & go with you myself!
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Hey Snagher, Give me a call, Puffy had a siting yesterday near the lodge that might help you. THE MAYOR
Thanks! I heard you & Puffy had a bad day on the River! I would say the spawn is offically over! I'm sure you guys will go find some down river somewhere! ;D You guys are diehards, you were fishing for them til June last year!
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Thanks! I heard you & Puffy had a bad day on the River! I would say the spawn is offically over! I'm sure you guys will go find some down river somewhere! ;D You guys are diehards, you were fishing for them til June last year!
WHATS UP SNAGGER, IM UP LATE DOING SOME WORK ON MY BUSINESS WEBSITE, ALSO STILL HUNG OVER A BIT FROM MY SISTER AND FULL CHOKES WEDDING 24 HOURS AGO , HOLY SH#$%^^ DID WE DRINK. I DID ABOUT 15 DRINKS AND 12 PLUS SHOTS. IM GETTIN TO OLD FOR THAT STUFF. SOUNDS LIKE THE SEASON IS DONE UP THERE HUH?
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WHATS UP SNAGGER, IM UP LATE DOING SOME WORK ON MY BUSINESS WEBSITE, ALSO STILL HUNG OVER A BIT FROM MY SISTER AND FULL CHOKES WEDDING 24 HOURS AGO , HOLY SH#$%^^ DID WE DRINK. I DID ABOUT 15 DRINKS AND 12 PLUS SHOTS. IM GETTIN TO OLD FOR THAT STUFF. SOUNDS LIKE THE SEASON IS DONE UP THERE HUH?
That's it, that would have only been 3-4 hours for me, then off to close the bar! The Mayer said he only saw 4 fish all morning & L.V. hooked only 6. What a difference 3 days will make in May! Well Mid August is right around the corner. Work like hell & make a bunch of Salmon Money!
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That's it, that would have only been 3-4 hours for me, then off to close the bar! The Mayer said he only saw 4 fish all morning & L.V. hooked only 6. What a difference 3 days will make in May! Well Mid August is right around the corner. Work like hell & make a bunch of Salmon Money!
YEAH WE ARE FINALLY GETTING A NICE STRETCH OF WEATHER DOWN HERE, GUNNA GO LIKE GANGBUSTERS NOW. IM OUT FOR NOW, TALK TO YOU SOON.
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i was just doing some math, and with gas and bait/bobbers/hooks/etc, the elusive steelhead has cost us $35-$45 so far... i have gotta say, they have me hooked even though i haven't caught one yet ;D
on another note, is it still worth it to try in non-spawning season, say next weekend, or should i wait till fall?
thanks again
fishman
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i was just doing some math, and with gas and bait/bobbers/hooks/etc, the elusive steelhead has cost us $35-$45 so far... i have gotta say, they have me hooked even though i haven't caught one yet ;D
on another note, is it still worth it to try in non-spawning season, say next weekend, or should i wait till fall?
thanks again
fishman
Now that the fish are done spawning & the upper end of the river is full of stocked fish! If the River goes back under 500cfs, theres lots of larger pools lower & mid River you can fish for Dropbacks for a little while longer! We've had three great cycles of steelhead in the salmon River in the last 3 years, before that It tooks guys alot more money than that to get there first steelhead! You got to remember I post about some guys that have been doing it 10-20 years! Cold out there today!
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snagger have you ever taken them on ulta lite casting raps it is just awsome to see those drop backs charge those cranks and smash them on the surface with a little twich
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We've had three great cycles of steelhead in the salmon River in the last 3 years, before that It tooks guys alot more money than that to get there first steelhead!
i just remembered that the amt is down about $10 thanks to a bunch of snagged lures and flies found w/ the low water levels. if i went again and actually looked for stuff, i am sure i could open up my own shop ;D
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snagger have you ever taken them on ulta lite casting raps it is just awsome to see those drop backs charge those cranks and smash them on the surface with a little twich
Hey Fillet, I got a local friend I've know since he was 15. He's now 30, he never got into the hardcore aspect of steelheading, just does it once in a while. He Wipes them up sometimes on the really small trout colored floating rapalas this time of year & occationally on summer steelhead!
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Sounds like the Fat Lady has pretty much sung on another Steelie season, huh?
I still get out to Pulaski for a little music festival each year, but maybe this summer I will peel myself away from the Adirondacks for a weekend and take a shot at that Smallie/Skamania combo I hear about.
If there are nice Smallies in there, it would be fun to hit Bronzebacks and Summer Steelies for a day or two.
I've never targeted Smallies in the Salmon River- but they are one of my faves on a 5wt. I hear mixed reports about the Smallmouth populations in summer, anyone have much experience with them? Any fatties?
I would expect the river is pretty quiet in terms of people for those few months before the Salmon roll in?
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Sounds like the Fat Lady has pretty much sung on another Steelie season, huh?
I still get out to Pulaski for a little music festival each year, but maybe this summer I will peel myself away from the Adirondacks for a weekend and take a shot at that Smallie/Skamania combo I hear about.
If there are nice Smallies in there, it would be fun to hit Bronzebacks and Summer Steelies for a day or two.
I've never targeted Smallies in the Salmon River- but they are one of my faves on a 5wt. I hear mixed reports about the Smallmouth populations in summer, anyone have much experience with them? Any fatties?
I would expect the river is pretty quiet in terms of people for those few months before the Salmon roll in?
I'd stay in the Mountains, not worth a special trip! Back in the old days, I can remember fishing the lower end of the River where the DSR is now. We used to call it the Flats! There was a couple of bigger holes that we called the clay hole, bus hole, & the cylo hole! I don't know what there called now, haven't given that Senator a nickle of my money since he took over farmer Josh's land in 88! Me & my friends fished that area hard from 81 til 87, those were the days! Man back then, there was so many smallmouth we accidentally lifted them thinking they were steelies!( I know, but we lifted everything back then, we didn't know any better)there were big 3-6lb. bombs everywhere in the lower end of the River. It was like that from the late 70's threw the 80's and into the mid 90's, then they began a big decline. Around 1990 or so, they started regulated water flows for most of the year. Again in the late 90's they made it so the water would not go below 185cfs in the winter or Summer. These two giant changes over the course of almost 2 decades has created a great environment for natural reproduction of juvenile steelhead & salmon! The more healthy the river gets for salmon/steelhead, the less smallies we seem to have( my theory ) in this River! I think smallmouth fry is great fish food! You don't see near the numbers of rock bass as you used to! Theres plenty of places to catch bass, this River is average at best in June-mid July! As for the Skamanians, I wrote something a couple of weeks ago about them! They are very hard to time in the summer, theres a burst of them in late June-early July, then a good push that comes in with the early kings in late August & early september! Timing is difficult at best! Sorry started rambling, just got back from a great night of walleye( all pumped up)! Catch ya Later Jimmy! Why do we have no spell check anymore!
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fishing smallies back in the day in the river was great ,didn't keep them ,but fun to catch on ultra lite some real hogs ,used to fish it all the way down to the bishops property,and all the way to the d**n was great trout fishing big browns and nice brook trout , that was before the hatchery , those were great days , snagger I wonder how many guys were here then? boy I do miss that !!
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fishing smallies back in the day in the river was great ,didn't keep them ,but fun to catch on ultra lite some real hogs ,used to fish it all the way down to the bishops property,and all the way to the d**n was great trout fishing big browns and nice brook trout , that was before the hatchery , those were great days , snagger I wonder how many guys were here then? boy I do miss that !!
Remember that Wier on the other side of the ball park, well before the 83 or 84 flood, Wow did the salmon get packed in there!
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the one on maple ave ? that was cool !!!
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the one on maple ave ? that was cool !!!
It was funny for years the salmon would still go there after the hatchery was created in altmar, til the flood wiped that whole side out. Now all the water flows down on this side! Going walleye fishing, talk to ya tomorrow fred!
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unlike alot of people I was born and raised here I have fished the river for 43 years for real
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wish I could go ,let me know how you did , good luck
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It was funny for years the salmon would still go there after the hatchery was created in altmar, til the flood wiped that whole side out. Now all the water flows down on this side! Going walleye fishing, talk to ya tomorrow fred!
ANY ELLIS COVE NEWS TO SPEAK OF ? OR THATS A WRAP FOR THE YEAR?
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Reading the last few pages of this thread got me thinking about those steelhead agian. This was my first year to chase the steelies and only made 5 trips, but was lucky everytime and had a great time. Next year I hope to learn a few more spots and make a few more trips, I just like to fish for too many things to get a bunch of trips in. If a guy wanted to make one last trip sometime in the next month, what kind of tactics would he use? Also what kind of tactics are legal to use on the river during the summer months? When I was groing up we used to go up there with crawdad crankbaits and catch smallies all day long. But I always wondered if you were even allowed to do that anymore with all the rule changes.
Jeff
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Reading the last few pages of this thread got me thinking about those steelhead agian. This was my first year to chase the steelies and only made 5 trips, but was lucky everytime and had a great time. Next year I hope to learn a few more spots and make a few more trips, I just like to fish for too many things to get a bunch of trips in. If a guy wanted to make one last trip sometime in the next month, what kind of tactics would he use? Also what kind of tactics are legal to use on the river during the summer months? When I was groing up we used to go up there with crawdad crankbaits and catch smallies all day long. But I always wondered if you were even allowed to do that anymore with all the rule changes.
Jeff
I believe you can use crank baits from April 15th- August 15th, no special regs. during this time! Theres still bass in the River, but it isn't what it used to be! Go low in the River, if you come! Steelies are winding down pretty fast right now, but we've had very cold nights! Who knows! The pre-spawn & spawning bonanaza is Over! Still dropbacks throughout the River on there way out! Good luck!
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you've mentioned some lower river fishing, any spots to suggest?
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If you wana try the lowere river you can start right in town(Pulaski) try under the bridge then work your way down stream. Try drops and slack water. The fish are very hungry and a blast to catch befor they make it back.
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I believe you can use crank baits from April 15th- August 15th, no special regs. during this time! Theres still bass in the River, but it isn't what it used to be! Go low in the River, if you come! Steelies are winding down pretty fast right now, but we've had very cold nights! Who knows! The pre-spawn & spawning bonanaza is Over! Still dropbacks throughout the River on there way out! Good luck!
WOW SNAGGER, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE MORE VIEWS ON THIS THREAD THAN THE NY STATE INFO THREAD!! THATS AWESOME.
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Nominated for "Thread of the Year" in many high-powered fishing journals worldwide... Nice work, Snagger!
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Thanks Jimmy, wait til next year when we get some other people talking too! WOW!, have you heard how high the River is at least 2000-2500cfs & the dam is running over the top like a waterfalls! Good bye droppies, free ride to the lake! Charters will be Happy! Yesterday with creeks added it was crazy looking in town!
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Nominated for "Thread of the Year" in many high-powered fishing journals worldwide... Nice work, Snagger!
With the Oneida Lake Diehards thread hot on it's heels! Every 1 make sure 2 drop in and visit at the Oneida Lake Diehards Thread. This has been a threadjacking! :rotflol: :rotflol: Yours truly, Deadeyez. Jk, SNaggers the man.lol
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I'm predicting that the diehard thread will end the year at 23,000 views, still got end of May threw November. You'll loose my input in September/October( Salmon Season) no time to sleep, let alone get on computer.
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U will b back on IS after the salmon run though and u know the diehards thread is movin 2 IS.com I'll have 2 come up and show u how I catch those pigs ;D ;Dby hand
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Hey that's against the law, you should be ashamed of yourself! I think it's legal at night if your drunk!
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Take your word 4 it
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Snagger What's up! Haven't been fishing lately?
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Snagger What's up! Haven't been fishing lately?
Been fishing walleyes almost every evening at Oneida, about ready to switch to smallmouth for a while, then finger lakes hopefully, then back to eyes in late June at Oneida. You know my Routine! River just dropped really low, if theres any steelies left, would be easy to fish for them now down in the lower River!
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I am thinking there should be a thread simply entitled "Snaggers Place"...
But then again, I guess this thread has pretty much become the same thing. Its nice to be able to stop by and see what's up on the CNY lakes and rivers. Other threads? I don't need no stinkin' other threads!
"One stop shopping", if you will. Easily the best thread on the inner'nets... :P
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I am thinking there should be a thread simply entitled "Snaggers Place"...
But then again, I guess this thread has pretty much become the same thing. Its nice to be able to stop by and see what's up on the CNY lakes and rivers. Other threads? I don't need no stinkin' other threads!
"One stop shopping", if you will. Easily the best thread on the inner'nets... :P
Hey Jimmy the stripers still up top or are they dropping back now? What was your biggest one this year? My buddy who lives down River said it was a great year for size, same numbers!
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I don't really know... I've got three or four friends that are still out chasing them all the time, but most guys around Albany have hung it up for another season. There will still be die-hards out there into June!
The guys south of Kingston still seem to take their share later into June as the fish head out to LI Sound, etc.
I'm no expert on those things, just like to get out after 'em a few times each season... In fact, I never even put my boat in the Hudson this spring, I only fished off everyone else's boat! Only went a handful of times.
I rarely have much luck (but seem to crush 'em in RI and NJ), but this yeear I broke the curse with a 35" fish one morning before work. Once I got that one, I started fishing for trout again, ha!
The Stripers are fun, but it is a slow kind of fishing and pound-for-pound, Stripers aren't the toughest brawlers out there. But it is cool to have shots at nice (potentially 50") saltwater fish in downtown Albany for a few weeks. Tradition gets me out there more than anything I guess!
These 25lb stipers have got nothin' on the Steelies when it comes to fighting.
I like those Chromers that come launching out of the water at 25mph and keep running downriver!!!!
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I don't really know... I've got three or four friends that are still out chasing them all the time, but most guys around Albany have hung it up for another season. There will still be die-hards out there into June!
The guys south of Kingston still seem to take their share later into June as the fish head out to LI Sound, etc.
I'm no expert on those things, just like to get out after 'em a few times each season... In fact, I never even put my boat in the Hudson this spring, I only fished off everyone else's boat! Only went a handful of times.
I rarely have much luck (but seem to crush 'em in RI and NJ), but this yeear I broke the curse with a 35" fish one morning before work. Once I got that one, I started fishing for trout again, ha!
The Stripers are fun, but it is a slow kind of fishing and pound-for-pound, Stripers aren't the toughest brawlers out there. But it is cool to have shots at nice (potentially 50") saltwater fish in downtown Albany for a few weeks. Tradition gets me out there more than anything I guess!
These 25lb stipers have got nothin' on the Steelies when it comes to fighting.
I like those Chromers that come launching out of the water at 25mph and keep running downriver!!!!
If the past has ever told us anything about the future, then everyones chances at a solid elusive 20lber should really increase in 2010-2013 being that were in about our 3rd good cycle of steelhead runs in the River. Back in 1996-1997 was the last great cycle I can remember! These great cycles will be coming of age in a couple of years! Nothing fights harder than a 20 plus steelhead in my opinion! In 97, I fought a 23.49lber for 52 minutes in the schoolhouse pool on my Mom's birthday in February on 6lb. line! I will never forget it as long as I live Jimmy!
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hmmm with some needed help on your river i might have to wake up even earlier and take a trip and try the salmon river out. or not even go to sleep. i have lots of chrome to fish for in wny but do like to travel for fish on occasion
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hmmm with some needed help on your river i might have to wake up even earlier and take a trip and try the salmon river out. or not even go to sleep. i have lots of chrome to fish for in wny but do like to travel for fish on occasion
You won't regret the long drive, but your going to half to wait til next October for any big numbers of Chrome to fish for! Although a friend of mine stop by & said he's still getting some fish down in pulaski, not great numbers, just a few. Picked a couple out of the rollers too! Cold nights have kept River temps in check!
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Hey, SNAGGER That must be THE MAYOR who's trying for the last steelhead in the river? Things are getting better down here everyday. I had t 2 friends who fished till 2am a few days back in local waters and smashed them! They came back with 4 fish over 35 pounds.
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Hey, SNAGGER That must be THE MAYOR who's trying for the last steelhead in the river? Things are getting better down here everyday. I had t 2 friends who fished till 2am a few days back in local waters and smashed them! They came back with 4 fish over 35 pounds.
Hey Bunker Killer think the big Stripers will still be around in 2 weeks on your side of the Sound? I got some smallmouth to get out of my system, then maybe I can come down for some of those big COWS, be nice to get a couple of 35-40lbers! If you think they won't, I'll see what I can do about some things, I got to take care of around here first! Talk to ya later!
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Hey Bunker Killer think the big Stripers will still be around in 2 weeks on your side of the Sound? I got some smallmouth to get out of my system, then maybe I can come down for some of those big COWS, be nice to get a couple of 35-40lbers! If you think they won't, I'll see what I can do about some things, I got to take care of around here first! Talk to ya later!
Hey Snagger,I think anytime from now till the 4Th of July will be good. I haven't heard of any solid action around Penfield yet! but Mooseman said he could here allot of guys yelling at the marina from his porch the other night. He hasn't left the house much in the last few weeks because his back has been killing him. Give him a call when you get a chance, I've been talking with him everyday and he could use another friendly voice to cheer him up. Ill check on the shore reports this weekend to see what that looks like, and as far as from a boat! I'll find them!
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Hey Snagger,I think anytime from now till the 4Th of July will be good. I haven't heard of any solid action around Penfield yet! but Mooseman said he could here allot of guys yelling at the marina from his porch the other night. He hasn't left the house much in the last few weeks because his back has been killing him. Give him a call when you get a chance, I've been talking with him everyday and he could use another friendly voice to cheer him up. Ill check on the shore reports this weekend to see what that looks like, and as far as from a boat! I'll find them!
Cool Man I'll give him a call, I joined that online tourny, don't know how to load pic's or have a working camera-soon! I think a 40lber. would take it! Talk to you later Bunker!
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Tell Moose I wish I was with him, I love Snagging Bunker almost as much as catching those Cows! :w00t: Got to go, going dragging worms again at Oneida!
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Do you guys just snag one in the school and then let it drop below without reeling it in?
It seems like a lot of guys down in Jersey do it that way during the Fall run... Sounds like the Bluefish rip up the bunker and the big lazy cows sit below to eat the bloody scraps...
As for me (as a guy that doesn't eat much fish), I actually had a lot more fun with 10lb Bluefish off Long Beach Island. We wailed on them all day, and those things try to pull your arms out of their sockets!
Sounds like most people hate Blues... But I think they are insanely fun if you're just out having fun!
These kind are where it's at!!! Do you guys love 'em or hate 'em?
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Do you guys just snag one in the school and then let it drop below without reeling it in?
It seems like a lot of guys down in Jersey do it that way during the Fall run... Sounds like the Bluefish rip up the bunker and the big lazy cows sit below to eat the bloody scraps...
As for me (as a guy that doesn't eat much fish), I actually had a lot more fun with 10lb Bluefish off Long Beach Island. We wailed on them all day, and those things try to pull your arms out of their sockets!
Sounds like most people hate Blues... But I think they are insanely fun if you're just out having fun!
These kind are where it's at!!! Do you guys love 'em or hate 'em?
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We snag the bunker til we have enough for the day, then chunk it up for bait & create chum slicks with some of it! I love catching bluefish, if that's what we are targeting! Don't like them getting in the way of stripers though! The tides only last so long, bluefish waste your striper time if there robbing your bait! Love casting Gotch ya plugs at the blues in August where my buddies live on the sound! One time waded 1/4 mile off shore & got surrounded by a bluefish Blitz eating peanut bunker & got my legs cut up, not to mention my hands from unhooking them, for got my gloves that day! They are battlers! Catch ya later Jimmy!
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Hey, SNAGGER That must be THE MAYOR who's trying for the last steelhead in the river? Things are getting better down here everyday. I had t 2 friends who fished till 2am a few days back in local waters and smashed them! They came back with 4 fish over 35 pounds.
Hey bunker, puffy and I are still catching fish below the goat trail at the rock pile. Wish you were here. The Mayor
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Hey bunker, puffy and I are still catching fish below the goat trail at the rock pile. Wish you were here. The Mayor
WOW, still getting STEELIES, it has been real COLD!
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WOW, still getting STEELIES, it has been real COLD!
Snagher, Stopped by today at 3:45 but you weren't home. Yes it has been cold, but there are a few left. Puffy had a big chromer on that broke off, but he landed to nice males. Have the picture in my cell phone and will show you when I stop by. P.S. save me a couple of walleye. The Mayor. :flag:
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Remember in 03 we got them til June 1st over in Muscle shell creek( the year I made the video of you & puffy). And I don't remeber the year, but me & you were driving by Ellis & saw all those dorsal fins splashing around off puffy daddy point! That was June 9th that year, what ever year it was. Had some good times back then! :w00t: I'll be around tomorrow, I'm pretty beat up! :blink: Tell puffy I said HI!
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Hey SNAGGER I got a report from a old friend of yours from down here who fished a near by spot the otherday that yielded him two nice bass he was showing off. He never did say how many they got, but i think he burned a tank of gas or more in his truck to show off the 35 and 48 ponders he kept!MOOSEMAN is back on his feet now,and when i talked with him last night he was heading to the reef to float some worms. ill let you know how he did when i here from him.I sure hope he got past the Sea Grape this time!
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Hey SNAGGER I got a report from a old friend of yours from down here who fished a near by spot the otherday that yielded him two nice bass he was showing off. He never did say how many they got, but i think he burned a tank of gas or more in his truck to show off the 35 and 48 ponders he kept!MOOSEMAN is back on his feet now,and when i talked with him last night he was heading to the reef to float some worms. ill let you know how he did when i here from him.I sure hope he got past the Sea Grape this time!
How did you get the writing so small, good size fish. It's been cool & going to stay cool, maybe they'll stick around a while this year! Tell moose to order a plate of sea scallops at the Sea Grape Bar for me! And of course another 1/2 gallon of vodka & cranberry to go with it or is he still on a Crown Royal kick( miss those days!) Nice talking to ya Bunker! :w00t:
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Couple of my buddies have been hitting the river, they say they are still getting steelies way down river. HAte to say it but Douglaston. I wouldnt mind hitting a few silver bullets in june...
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Said he was leaving at 11am & still no sign of him! Must be smashing them! He said yesterday was the 4th best trip he's ever had in 15 years! And he's had some Big one's! Hope to see ya in Salmon season, have a great wedding!
[/qu ote] :-*hey ,GUESS WHO !!! Tell uncle john I said ''HI''!
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Said he was leaving at 11am & still no sign of him! Must be smashing them! He said yesterday was the 4th best trip he's ever had in 15 years! And he's had some Big one's! Hope to see ya in Salmon season, have a great wedding!
[/qu ote] :-*hey ,GUESS WHO !!! Tell uncle john I said ''HI''!
Welcome Aboard hope everything is going good, only about 10 weeks til the first Small pockets of Salmon start trickling in the River! Unless it stays this cold, could start coming by July! Thought it was my buddy mooseman, til I read the above caption!
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I can't remember the year but it was probably 10 years ago or more. We had a ton of rain all summer which kept the rivers at flood levels and i fished the oswego river a lot when i was younger. Well anyways i remember catching loads of brown trout and king salmon at the dam on the oswego river in mid july. It was great fishing for a couple weeks until the word got out. I haven't seen anything like it since. Had most the river to myself back then at that time of year, most people probably thought i was just playing around with carp and sheephead. Little did they know.
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I can't remember the year but it was probably 10 years ago or more. We had a ton of rain all summer which kept the rivers at flood levels and i fished the oswego river a lot when i was younger. Well anyways i remember catching loads of brown trout and king salmon at the dam on the oswego river in mid july. It was great fishing for a couple weeks until the word got out. I haven't seen anything like it since. Had most the river to myself back then at that time of year, most people probably thought i was just playing around with carp and sheephead. Little did they know.
It was 1992, the year without a summer! That volcano blew up in the phillipines and covered the northern hemisphere with particulat matter. Temps were held down to the 60's-70's all summer! I was at the Oswego Dam 3-4 days a week! When I lived in Ithaca was only 1hour 20 minute drive up 34! I probably fished right next to you! BROWNS every where & steelhead too! Small groups of kings, Especially at the FLUME! Great Summer!
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I figured you would remember Snagger. Unbelievable summer that was.
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I figured you would remember Snagger. Unbelievable summer that was.
One day up there in july of 91, I hooked 137 browns, from the flume to the corner in the dam! Really! Remember all the big eyes that would get in the way, who knows how big they were back then!
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Yup, remember walking the lock walls at night and catching your limit of 10lb plus eyes in 15 minutes or less and not seeing one single boat in the harbor. Ah the good ol'days.
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Yup, remember walking the lock walls at night and catching your limit of 10lb plus eyes in 15 minutes or less and not seeing one single boat in the harbor. Ah the good ol'days.
There was always one boat over there in the early 90's, my good friend Mike Fiumano from the Fish On Lodge, he taught most of the guides that are there now,when they were getting there start when they were younger! I went out with him once back then, it was non-stop all night, your arms hurt! And they were BIG!
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Hey Snagger, are our friends still finding some fish in the rock pile???
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Hey Snagger, are our friends still finding some fish in the rock pile???
Haven't heard from them in a few days, but as cold as it's been they may never leave! Some Skamanians may start trickling in too! Been alot of good size Atlantic's being caught in the lake this year, they'll be running up the River soon during a thunderstorm, then get heat stroke and die! Unless they can make it to our SPRINGS! ;D
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Haven't heard from them in a few days, but as cold as it's been they may never leave! Some Skamani ans may start trickling in too! Been allot of good size Atlantic's being caught in the lake this year, they'll be running up the River soon during a thunderstorm, then get heat stroke and die! Unless they can make it to our SPRINGS! ;D
Hey Snagger, Mooseman was bass fishing on the reef sunday, he didn't get any himself but he saw others hooking up. He did manage to get 1 blackfish
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Hey Snagger, Mooseman was bass fishing on the reef sunday, he didn't get any himself but he saw others hooking up. He did manage to get 1 blackfish
Sounds like he needs a 2 man NY drunken GUIDE SERVICE like the old days! Tell him I said HI! We did better there after it warmed up and you boat guys were slowing down a bit, been COLD this year! Me and little dave miss those days, he's working every day including weekends!
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Hey Snagger, are our friends still finding some fish in the rock pile???
Hey Bunker, There are still silver bullets in the town pool & The Forbidden Zone down river. Great weather for a long walk & a few surprises along the way. THE MAYOR
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Hey Mayor, Are you finding any of puff daddy's lost hats on those long walks?
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Hey Mayor, Are you finding any of puff daddy's lost hats on those long walks?
Hey Bunker, Puffy has been good, he has'nt lost a hat in a long time, not that he has'nt tried but because he has his hat clipped to his collar that's why All Seasons Sport Shop has so many hat's on there racks. they'll probably go out of business because of that clip. He was there main hat customer for years. But, he has had some exceptional moves & dazzling foot work lately along with some phenominal disappearing acts. He told me it was from his new medicine :w00t: Last year he could'nt get out of the water because of the FAGAUWI'S. :thumbup_smilie: God only knows what next year will bring. I'm sure he can top all his past performances. that's why he's Puff Daddy & that's why Moose is cinder blockman. THE MAYOR
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Ok so i am going to alaska in 10 days for the rest of the summer for a job. Im doing stream surveys to see how the logging and mining is effecting the fish and the streams. I will be in very south east alaska. I have not been a big fly fisherman in the past but i would like to get into it up there. I have my fathers 11 foot 6/7 weight fly rod i am going to bring with a older martin reel. Will this set up hold up to the salmon fishing i am about to do. I will not be fishing for kings because they do not run where i will be but every other pacific salmon is pletifull i could be looking at 14 pound cohos, pinks, sockeyes, as well as some steelhead. Also what kind of line should i be looking to get. Is the rod going to be to long? Will the reel hold up?
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ok, based on my very little expierence, i think the rod may be on the light side. i think a 8-9 weight is better but that i have just heard from others. and can not help on any other part but i will say you have a very nice job. if they are hiring next year, maybe you could mention it again (with the phonenumber and name of the place ;D ;D)
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OK so i am going to Alaska in 10 days for the rest of the summer for a job. I'm doing stream surveys to see how the logging and mining is effecting the fish and the streams. I will be in very south east Alaska. I have not been a big fly fisherman in the past but i would like to get into it up there. I have my fathers 11 foot 6/7 weight fly rod i am going to bring with a older martin reel. Will this set up hold up to the salmon fishing i am about to do. I will not be fishing for kings because they do not run where i will be but every other pacific salmon is plentiful i could be looking at 14 pound cohos, pinks, sockeyes, as well as some steelhead. Also what kind of line should i be looking to get. Is the rod going to be to long? Will the reel hold up?
I fished Alaska back in the mid 90s and caught a wide variety of salmon. Any of the equipment you would normally use in the Salmon River will suit all your needs. the methods and the equipment used are for the most part the same. Good luck its a trip you'll always look back on ! :clapping:
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I lived up there in Denali National Park for awhile back in the mid-90s... I only got to fish for salmon a few times (they don't run to Mount McKinley) while down on the Kenai, but as mentioned, all equipment is the same.
Amazingly, I have found the salmon run in Alaska to be about the same as that on Lake Ontario! Granted, there are exponentially more fish running in AK- but there are also infinate 'home' rivers along the entire coastline so the fish can be spread out a lot more. Some rivers get bug runs of Silvers, some pinks, some Kings, etc.
One afternoon on Ship Creek in Anchorage I was amazed to see FAR more people fishing than I was accustomed to seeing in Pulaski! The big difference is that Alaska residents (born there, or at least residing in AK for at least 7 years) are allowed to snag and dip-net the fish. Since so many folks rely on salmon (and moose) for subistence, the state lets 'em get them anyway they wish.
Tourists, of course, have to fish for them! Ha!
I am sure you will have a great summer on the AK coast. Make the multi-day drive up to the Parks Highway, Denali Highway, or Haines Cutoff sometime to see the true Alaskan "Interior". It's a whole 'nother world compared to the "Bannana Belt" of Petersburgh, Ketchikan, etc.
Quite a place- you'll have a blast!
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Sounds like he needs a 2 man NY drunken GUIDE SERVICE like the old days! Tell him I said HI! We did better there after it warmed up and you boat guys were slowing down a bit, been COLD this year! Me and little dave miss those days, he's working every day including weekends!
hey brother it is the vt snagger let me now if it is worth a trip up for some sr action and definatly looking forward 2 a salt water trip with u!
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ok, based on my very little expierence, i think the rod may be on the light side. i think a 8-9 weight is better but that i have just heard from others. and can not help on any other part but i will say you have a very nice job. if they are hiring next year, maybe you could mention it again (with the phonenumber and name of the place ;D ;D)
Fishman's right, I use 10 weights in early part of the Salmon run, then go to 8 weights as the run winds down and use a custom made 10 1/2 foot 7 weight for steelhead. I run mono I start with 12-15lb in high water, in medium water I like 10-12lb line, then for steelhead I use 6lb main line with a 4lb. leader in November. December on I use straight 4lb, Hope this helps! Welcome aboard Jpak! Pretty slow around here til about the 10th of August, If the Skamanians hit that one hole we like, I'll call you!
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thanks man icthink i am going 2 b over on 19-23 or 24-28 kids outa school a whole week then c u soon skamania hole full or not also a shout 2 the mayor!
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Hey JIMMY, I don't think I'll make any of STONIE'S great campground Jambories this year, might fall off the wagon. I miss his Summer festival's, they were alot of fun. Hey, have a couple dozen for me man! I must have been having a bad day to say a bad word like LIFTER! :w00t: Stop by the house when your in town! Catch ya later!
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Drove by the Ball Park today, it looked and felt like Salmon Season, mid August aint that far off. Maybe they'll trickle in, in July, like last year! Nothing like putting a pair of korkers on your sneakers and fishing in cut off jeans down in the rollers with a good ol Fly rod and Mono! CAN'T WAIT!
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Walked over to the river & checked 3 spots that usually hold a few skamanians, but they aren't up here yet. Took an ultra lite and landed 7 smallies in about 15 minutes on some new small plastics I bought to try for crappie next spring! Used my polorizers in the schoolhouse pool, could see the bottom everywhere, but no fish!
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ANYBODY FISHING DOWN RIVER FOR SMALLIES? Stopped in Pulaski today and saw a bright Chrome Atlantic about 10lbs resting on the edges of a roller!
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Hey SNAGGER, I'm getting itchy to come up to fish the river for some salmon this year. We're not doing much fishing around home this year, but i am looking forward to fishing the river soon. As you can see I'm getting ready for a road trip, just need to attach a few rod holders, and see weather or not i can get Jeremy or moose man to ride shotgun.
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I guess if moose comes I'm going to have to put a seat belt on and a Bourbon holder
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speaking of the salmon/trout, any fish in there yet, or is it still to early. i think i have heard/read somewhere that some fish start to come up in the summer. just wondering,
i will eventually catch something of size out of there, whether it is by something i learned on here or just plain dumb luck
thanks,
fishman
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COOL RIDE bunker, I could see you & moose showing up in that! One of those compartments would have to be for moose's booze! :w00t: Way early for salmon, a Few skamanies/landlocks already showed up, but not worth a trip. I'll be on the horn the minute a few kings show up in August! Last year a great run 23-25th( 40 hook up mornings!) 21st-23rd of 94 & 98 were the Bomb! Now that Barkley bought the LB, the fish are more spread out a little up river! It's too bad his guys need 10,000 in front them to hook one! :w00t:
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RIVER WENT UP, RIVER CAME DOWN and no skamanians in there normal areas. Some giant browns in the tail of the church. Some cars at the upper fly, could be holding out on us! Hey BUNKER any MOOSEMAN sitings?
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RIVER WENT UP, RIVER CAME DOWN and no skamanians in there normal areas. Some giant browns in the tail of the church. Some cars at the upper fly, could be holding out on us! Hey BUNKER any MOOSEMAN sitings?
I talked with him last night, they were out all day and only caught 4 short fluke and allot of searobins.He sounded good so i think they must have really tried this time
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My neighbor Bob, said 2 mornings ago he seen 2 large browns( 4lbs.+) landed at the Turn just below the bridge! Been quite a few cars around lately, I took a walk yesterday and didn't see any Skamanians, but did see a big atlantic on the fast water edges! The cool water temps has what ever fish are in the river all spread out this year! Stays this cold, I expect to run into a king soon! Has the thermocline even set up yet out on the lake! HEY BUNKER how much do you want for that outboard?
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ONEIDA LAKE WALLEYE ADDICT! SALMON RIVER LIFTER! SET THE HOOK SO HARD YOU RIP THERE HEADS OFF!
Shane......Why do you like to?....."RIP THEIR HEADS OFF!"..?
Don't you ever release anything alive? ;D
I thoughtchya' catch 'em hooked in the back, or tail ;D...
and released them to fight another day. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Oh man... Here we go... My truck is begging to drive to Pulaski again and it is only mid-July!
It's the browns in that river that get me fired up- seems like most people overlook them since the Kings and Chromers are the real stars of the show. But a chunky 7lb hook-jawed brown is about as cool as it gets for me!
Then again, a lit-up Steelie in high water like this past Spring is pretty tough to beat too...
Might have to wander out there on Sunday or something and see what's shaking in P-ski during the 'off season'. They do still sell beer in the summer out there, right?
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Hey Snagger, my cousin and I and 2 others are going out with the "other" Shane this Sat., hope its not to early for the kings, but its the only time all 5 of us can get together...cant wait, with any luck well at least catch some browns.........
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Hey Snagger, my cousin and I and 2 others are going out with the "other" Shane this Sat., hope its not to early for the kings, but its the only time all 5 of us can get together...cant wait, with any luck well at least catch some browns.........
From what I've heard the lake temps are all screwed up with no thermocline! A friend said it was 66 on top and 62 at 130, that's messed up. I don't lake fish much, just like studying weather! Hope you have a sucessful trip out there! Have fun man! Give a report on here when your done!
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Shane......Why do you like to?....."RIP THEIR HEADS OFF!"..?
Don't you ever release anything alive? ;D
I thoughtchya' catch 'em hooked in the back, or tail ;D...
and released them to fight another day. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I'M A TRUE CATCH AND RELEASE MAN! I catch em and release em right into my fish cleaning station! :w00t: In all seriously, I release most of my steelies!
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Hey ESOX, I just thought of something. My 4 favorite places to fish the Salmon River are all PRIVATIZED now First the DSR, fished it from 78-88, then clarks falls behind Bruce Waldens old place, then the corner town rapids above the high bridge, and now the whole lower black rapids! The Staircase is next, that will pretty much rap up the lower 4 or 5 miles for the tax paying public! A playground for the rich!
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Hey ESOX, I just thought of something. My 4 favorite places to fish the Salmon River are all PRIVATIZED now First the DSR, fished it from 78-88, then clarks falls behind Bruce Waldens old place, then the corner town rapids above the high bridge, and now the whole lower black rapids! The Staircase is next, that will pretty much rap up the lower 4 or 5 miles for the tax paying public! A playground for the rich!
Thats why I don't even touch the river anymore there are plenty of fish in the lake and the smaller tribs.... I think its rediculous that if you live in the area you can't even fish it without paying.. Who keeps electing this retard?
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hey snagger this time of year is there a fair amount of fish in the rivers? i really have the river blues and would like to get some pre season fishing in SOON! if i went up and atleast got 1 it would be worth it
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maybe after a real good heavy down pour in middle august way to early now you can can get a few smallmouth in the blackhole or fish the estuary for bass and pike other than that the river is a barren ground as of now
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hey snagger this time of year is there a fair amount of fish in the rivers? i really have the river blues and would like to get some pre season fishing in SOON! if i went up and atleast got 1 it would be worth it
you may be able to get some rainbows in some of the deeper holes.
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hey snagger this time of year is there a fair amount of fish in the rivers? i really have the river blues and would like to get some pre season fishing in SOON! if i went up and atleast got 1 it would be worth it
Been fishing the river 30 years now ( can't believe it)and until around the 15 th of August there really isn't much in the River, except some atlantics, a few browns, and you need a warm summer to do good on skamanians! Right now there could be a good brown run at Oswego( maybe). Problem with the summer steelies and browns on this river is most of them are in the CLOSED lower fly zone or the hatchery! Theres quite a few at the church hole right now. Theres been a few skamanians and browns every morning around the bridge in the last week! The DSR will open early this year( august 8th), proving how bad the economy really is! He didn't used to open til Labor day years ago! One salmon will be sited and everyone on the internet will come running to stand around all day and practice casting til August 21st like every year! Keep an eye on EAST winds after August 15th, they break the thermal bar and let salmon sneak into the river, even if it's sunny and 95 degrees out!
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couldn't have said it better myself... love watching bunches of people flock to the river because 1 person caught 1 king and put it all over the web lol :D
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you may be able to get some rainbows in some of the deeper holes.
Hey Fishtank your right, usually the holes with good springs that feed them! This year waters have been so cold, theres no need for the trout to go searching for the springs, thus really spreading what few fish are in the river out alot this year! Hey Fishtank have you been on the lake lately?
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couldn't have said it better myself... love watching bunches of people flock to the river because 1 person caught 1 king and put it all over the web lol :D
CATCH ONE! Last year somebody paid $30 to watch 2 salmon run the rapids, only to pay $30 again to see nothing and he was happy! That's alot of money to most people!
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funny 40 years ago salmon river was the best trout stream in new york state period ,funny how the catch and release crowd want to save a dieing salmon to rott a week later but not help reclaim a river that was rated higher then the beaver kill or battenkill!!!!!!...... anyways i been complaining about it for the 40 years and no one listens back to bashing bass as soon as this storm blows over ;D
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Hey Fishtank your right, usually the holes with good springs that feed them! This year waters have been so cold, theres no need for the trout to go searching for the springs, thus really spreading what few fish are in the river out alot this year! Hey Fishtank have you been on the lake lately?
fished the pro am open saturday went 2 for 3 with the kings but the wind kept me in shallower than I wanted to be... Gonna try tomorrow nite I will let ya know how I do.
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funny 40 years ago salmon river was the best trout stream in new york state period ,funny how the catch and release crowd want to save a dieing salmon to rott a week later but not help reclaim a river that was rated higher then the beaver kill or battenkill!!!!!!......
You hit it right on the nail, Trapper.
From what I've heard the lake temps are all screwed up with no thermocline!
And they want to feed us all that crap about global warming. ::)
Is anyone finding the thermocline?, or is it still MIA?...
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its there but its really deep...
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Kinda figured that, Fish Tank.
Thanks for the info.
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Hey ESOX, I just thought of something. My 4 favorite places to fish the Salmon River are all PRIVATIZED NOW First the DSR, fished it from 78-88, then Clark's falls behind Bruce Waldens old place, then the corner town rapids above the high bridge, and now the whole lower black rapids! The Staircase is next, that will pretty much rap up the lower 4 or 5 miles for the tax paying public! A playground for the rich!
I agree with ya snagger it sucks the guides put up a good fight years ago. If the river wasn't stocked it would be different but it is. Unfortunately with money comes access and power. It is a glaring example of how our crooked, money and power thirsty state government is. Most of these people should be in jail for the crap they pull. They have built the system to work or use against us.You think it's bad now..... wait.... you ain't seen nothing yet.
I used to always fish the ledges on the north side a 1/4 mile above the 81 bridge. Can you still fish there ?
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funny 40 years ago salmon river was the best trout stream in new york state period ,funny how the catch and release crowd want to save a dieing salmon to rott a week later but not help reclaim a river that was rated higher then the beaver kill or battenkill!!!!!!...... anyways i been complaining about it for the 40 years and no one listens back to bashing bass as soon as this storm blows over ;D
trapp in the mid to late 80s as you know that place was a nightmare. All the places were full but all the owners were bithing because their rooms were getting trashed. people were getting drunk, puking, fighting, smashing holes in the walls leaving dead fish under the beds......................... The clientell was lets just say a little rough. From what I know The Salmon River had a reputation around the country to match.
I could care less about the salmon but there are also lots of other fish in the river also at the same time. They cleaned it up and then (now) it's come full circle in the opposite direction. I stopped fishing there a few years after they opened the flyfishing only section in Altmar. Now I mostly fish the Finger Lakes.
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Back in the day (70's-80's) the area wasn't able to handle what was going on, by the early 90's, things got alot better! I never snagged, just lifted in lower river! The year they got rid of snagging, I personally converted everyone at my lodge to lifting and lining fish. But that's now a bad thing, although EVERYONE does it, even the orvis & pinner guys do it during Salmon Season, the guys hooking lots of fish anyway! Esox your right, a total reversal from inconsiderate scum bags to snobs and hipocrats in 15 years! I mean not everyone, but you get the idea! I wish the recent good steelhead cycles would fall off some, to make it more challenging again to thin out some of the new snobs and hypocrits that are spoiled by the easy steelheading of late! I've been telling people for years, we are losing the middle class fast in this area! This area is and is headed towards just wealthy fishermen and people who cater to them! That why I started Ice Fishing and walleye fishing, no fun on the River any more! Keep giving those rainbows sore mouths on the finger lakes ESOX! Snob- Someone who thinks there better than the guy next to them, just because he makes more money and can afford better equipment! Talent is something you can't buy!
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trapp in the mid to late 80s as you know that place was a nightmare. All the places were full but all the owners were bithing because their rooms were getting trashed. people were getting drunk, puking, fighting, smashing holes in the walls leaving dead fish under the beds......................... The clientell was lets just say a little rough. From what I know The Salmon River had a reputation around the country to match.
I could care less about the salmon but there are also lots of other fish in the river also at the same time. They cleaned it up and then (now) it's come full circle in the opposite direction. I stopped fishing there a few years after they opened the flyfishing only section in Altmar. Now I mostly fish the Finger Lakes.
first i was born and raised next to it ,second the problems were over rated (like the story of the mule being shot during hunting season) and most locals made some darn good money! always a few bad ones... this has nothing to do with what happened to the salmon river ! before water was released from the bottom of the res. which kept a cold flow and in salmon river rainbow browns and brookies were abuntant! now you talk to any old timer he can tell you the trout fishing was better in salmon river then the batten or beaver kill!!!! thats a fact! yes other spieces of fish come up with the salmon ,yep steelhead and browns yep i fish for them yep i let them go,but truth tho they are a put and take.the way salmon river is today it's a fishery for the salmon run and then steelhead and a great watershed is useless for 6 to 8 months because the water released is from the top water instead of the bottom!!!! it's a waste because unlike other recovey projects this can be done at low cost and theres no problem with water quility!!!! it would be a true econmic booast to the area (go to roscoe any summer weekend) draw a differnt crowd and you could still have the salmon fishery!!!! now i'm sorry but the fact remains salmon coming up that river are dieing and if someone wants to take one home i don't care they are a put and take fish and if we relax the rules make a snag season again the out of staters would return to the area. the state and sportsmen of the state would benifit and we could end "snagging " season in late oct and the steelheaders would be free to enjoy themselves ,use the extra income from the out of state lic to improve the water flow and restock the salmon river with trout and restore it to it's former beauty. this also would free up wildlife officers to patrol more important areas like protecting our deer herd!!!! it's amazing how people go over board over a fish thats going to die in a week! and then to think comerants eat more browns and steelheads then are ever taken in the river!!!! i think it's time we all get real ,be homest, and stop being tree huggers and use our heads instead of emotions and make rules and laws (or don't make them) to benfit sportsman ,not tie there hands , when it gets to a piont that you have to measure a leader it becomes apparent that law makers are now tring to make money off tickets and not useing the resource as it was once met to be used ............ interesting point the book says a 4 foot leader i believe .... then how is anyone legal in the flyfishing section!!!!! and yes i called albany they had no answer
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Back in the day (70's-80's) the area wasn't able to handle what was going on, by the early 90's, things got alot better! I never snagged, just lifted in lower river! The year they got rid of snagging, I personally converted everyone at my lodge to lifting and lining fish. But that's now a bad thing, although EVERYONE does it, even the orvis & pinner guys do it during Salmon Season, the guys hooking lots of fish anyway! Esox your right, a total reversal from inconsiderate scum bags to snobs and hipocrats in 15 years! I mean not everyone, but you get the idea! I wish the recent good steelhead cycles would fall off some, to make it more challenging again to thin out some of the new snobs and hypocrits that are spoiled by the easy steelheading of late! I've been telling people for years, we are losing the middle class fast in this area! This area is and is headed towards just wealthy fishermen and people who cater to them! That why I started Ice Fishing and walleye fishing, no fun on the River any more! Keep giving those rainbows sore mouths on the finger lakes ESOX! Snob- Someone who thinks there better than the guy next to them, just because he makes more money and can afford better equipment! Talent is something you can't buy!
WELL PUT SNAGGER,WELL PUT!!!
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... and so this remains, the "hardest working thread in show business"...
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P.S.: (*whisper*) I bought talent one night... Highly over rated...
Fish on, Gennel'men!!!
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P.S.: (*whisper*) I bought talent one night... Highly over rated...
Fish on, Gennel'men!!!
And how much did it cost?, if you don't mind me asking! ;DLOL
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Trapp, Even though the salmon are going to die in my opinion I think it's flat out disrespectful way of treating a magnificent fish. Just so Joe no skill can say he caught a salmon. I have seen hundreds of brown trout and steelhead reefed out with a snag hook. I think to revert back to the old days is selling out a great river way to CHEAP.
I was much happier with in the mouth regulation without the leader length reg. Fishing should at the very least require some skill. In the mouth any way you want to get it there.
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I was much happier with in the mouth regulation without the leader length reg. Fishing should at the very least require some skill. In the mouth any way you want to get it there.
WE THINK A LIKE!
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I miss my 9' leader.
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Trapp, Even though the salmon are going to die in my opinion I think it's flat out disrespectful way of treating a magnificent fish. Just so Joe no skill can say he caught a salmon. I have seen hundreds of brown trout and steelhead reefed out with a snag hook. I think to revert back to the old days is selling out a great river way to CHEAP.
I was much happier with in the mouth regulation without the leader length reg. Fishing should at the very least require some skill. In the mouth any way you want to get it there.
esox i respect your opinion but tell me what good is a dieing fishery???? locales don't go and the out of staters arn't coming!!!!! the fish is dieing and on the evolutionary scale there a grade above a plant. now thats not emotionalism thats fact why let them die and rott on the shore if money can be made and people have fun???? like you said you don't care ya think a fish knows the differance between a size 10 in the mouth to a trible in the side????? the rules are killing the goose that layed the golden egg!!!! time we set emotionalizm aside and look at the bigger picture ..... next bow hunting will be illegal cause a arrow hurts the deer .....let them take the salmon!!!!!
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Well said trapper. We pay to put the fish in there, lets have a good time with them. What's the difference between snagging a salmon and shooting a deer, we don't have to shoot the deer in the mouth, why do we have to try to make a fish bite that really doesn't want too. Lifting is just another way to harvest game to me.
I think we should have an experiemental single hook lifting zone, try Pineville to Altmar for a year and see what happens. It could be like old times. Ya maybe we couldn't call ourselves "real" sportsmen but it would be a good time. I have already had people on this site tell me I am not a real sportsman anyways so who cares. Let the good times roll!!!!
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Well said trapper. We pay to put the fish in there, lets have a good time with them. What's the difference between snagging a salmon and shooting a deer, we don't have to shoot the deer in the mouth, why do we have to try to make a fish bite that really doesn't want too. Lifting is just another way to harvest game to me.
Let the good times roll!!!!
LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL! I like it Slamboney, But sadly it will never happen! Actually it does happen every day of Salmon Season, unless there on a feeding frenzy every time I have a 100 fish day out in the fish cleaning station! :w00t: I miss my leader too, especially off the route 3 bridge with floating marshmellows!
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IMO , I think it was more of how people were snagging and what type of people and how many were doing it that led to it's demise. You guys are right, what the heck is the difference if you shoot a deer that doesn't want to be shot or snag a fish that doesn't want to bite. It should just be another tool that is available to fisherman.
Now that being said....I am probably one of the biggest advocates of the "no snagging" rules. I couldn't stand it while it was happening and would never want it back. IMO, a lot of snaggers were by far the most ignorant, selfish, unsportsmanlike folks on the water. There are, of course, some good apples in the bunch. But overall, I think it brought the worst out of some people. Crossing lines, dumping fish, fighting, cursing, damaging property....I've seen it all during the snagging years and not a lot of it was really good. Sure, lots of people had an easy time getting limits, but at what cost to sportsmanship.
speaking of deer being shot - Watching people snagging was almost like watching the hunting shows on TV where they sit in a raised blind and shoot deer at 100yds with a rifle after they have just come to the feeders set up around the area. What the heck is that. Who wants to see a show about that ? (sorry - this was not meant to be a hijack - just venting - too much coffee this morning)
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Actually it's called blind snagging and actually the deer hunting comparison is flawed. Blindly ripping a snag hook though a pool in the hunting world would be like vaporizing a thicket of trees because you know there is a deer in there. Who cares where you shoot it as long as it dies.... it's going to die anyway and in the process killing other things in there.
I say open an area for bowfishing at least then you need to know what your shooting at and it takes some level of skill.
The reason I stopped fishing there was because it was an idiot festival all the time. I think all the idiots are what killed the business up there.... because fisherman like me got fed up and never went back.
No where on earth that I'm aware of are you allowed to Snag salmon.... Because is is just not an excepted practice anywhere in north America and the rest of the fishing community.... will pass negative judgement about the area.... wether you like it or not. I ain't dam rocket science hooking a salmon in the mouth people just don't want to get off there lazy fat @#$ to learn how.
I hate to break it to you all !!! No snagging is not the reason your area is struggling. Other areas can do it..... and they do it with out sending in the jugglers and the rodeo clowns. If you need to appeal to a clientell that will not come to your area unless they can blind snag salmon to save the local economy. YOU ARE SADLY MISTAKEN.
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In the 70's and 80's the fishery was new to our region and like everything new everyone wanted to try it. Its not so new anymore.
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I don't want snagging back, just fair and relaxed laws like any size leader and let the guys lift a few salmon in between runs! Seems like now if you go into a hole where guys aren't hooking fish, and you light the place up, theres a warden ready to write you up for something. Used to have fun (single hook) foul hooking them all day and only keeping the ones that were in the mouth! Now if your king of the hole you draw attention to yourself and get a ticket! Mediocrity is no way to go threw life! The 3 week carnaval atmoshere is how we all make most of our moey, even now!
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AND TRASH! People always talk about trash! Ever been to a concert or a county fair, anything that generates good money will also generate trash, when its all over I just pick my property up! No big deal! Theres just as much, if not more now in the winter months than I've ever seen from these so called high society guys that fish for steelhead! My guys were drunks, but they always picked up there empties on the River! I always made sure of that, because the working class always gets blamed for it!
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I don't want snagging back, just fair and relaxed laws like any size leader and let the guys lift a few salmon in between runs! Seems like now if you go into a hole where guys aren't hooking fish, and you light the place up, theres a warden ready to write you up for something. Used to have fun (single hook) foul hooking them all day and only keeping the ones that were in the mouth! Now if your king of the hole you draw attention to yourself and get a ticket! Mediocrity is no way to go threw life! The 3 week carnaval atmosphere is how we all make most of our money, even now!
Snagger, we do think alike and I don't find anything wrong with that way of fishing. As a matter of fact I find it impossible to drift through a pod of fish and not hook one in the fin or tail on accident. I have lined hundreds of fish in my day. A salmon is all mouth. Most the fish people hook that they think hit are actually lined . All you need to do is look at weather the hook point penetrated from outside the mouth to inside the mouth or inside to outside. I blow my cork when I here people in favor of bringing back weighted snag hooks.
I know all about this warden thing and I know this is unpopular to say because no one wants criticize the good men and women who risk there lives every day to uphold the law but what happened to the days of selective enforcement and giving people a break. It's like they are required to write tickets now.
It is exactly what happens when our state government uses law enforcement to raise revenue.... basically turning them into the tax collector. It's a shame.... but it's not the wardens fault he just doing his job, risking his life, to provide for his family.
You think that speed traps,roadblocks,Stop DUI, Seat belts check points are about Public Safety !!!!! Sure some is....... but it's also about money. Every new regulation is a new violation bringing in new money. More tickets mean more money, more money means more equipment and more officers to write more tickets.
Follow the money from Joe fisherman from PA who gets a ticket for something. See who the money all trickles back too. Don't be supprised If most of it goes back to a place represented buy someone just down the river a bit.
I have no idea how you could even begin to try to fix this. Walk the straight line, and obey the law...... what else can you do.
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You some new blood in the state gov. that is on our side. I would like to vote for someone like that.
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speaking of deer being shot - Watching people snagging was almost like watching the hunting shows on TV where they sit in a raised blind and shoot deer at 100yds with a rifle after they have just come to the feeders set up around the area. What the heck is that. Who wants to see a show about that ? (sorry - this was not meant to be a hijack - just venting - too much coffee this morning)
[/quote] So do u think it's different to shoot deer that are in a cornfield than deer eating a pile of corn ??? Just wondering. Im not a rifle guy, Im a Bowhunter, and Shotgunner ;D Just wondered your opinion on that.-Deadeyez
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speaking of deer being shot - Watching people snagging was almost like watching the hunting shows on TV where they sit in a raised blind and shoot deer at 100yds with a rifle after they have just come to the feeders set up around the area. What the heck is that. Who wants to see a show about that ? (sorry - this was not meant to be a hijack - just venting - too much coffee this morning)
So do u think it's different to shoot deer that are in a cornfield than deer eating a pile of corn ??? Just wondering. Im not a rifle guy, Im a Bowhunter, and Shotgunner ;D Just wondered your opinion on that.-Deadeyez
I agree good point im a bowhunter ;D....anyways i think we should be able to snag or lift til our hearts are content if you dont believe in it dont do it....i know i would be happy out catching the guys who are waitin for em to bite ;D
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Is it legal to keep foul hooked walleye when jigging? I hope I'm not breaking the law when it comes up hooked in the side of the face!
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So do u think it's different to shoot deer that are in a cornfield than deer eating a pile of corn ??? Just wondering. Im not a rifle guy, Im a Bowhunter, and Shotgunner ;D Just wondered your opinion on that.-Deadeyez
I am pretty much a dedicated bowhunter....i like to be up close and personal and know that my knowledge and planning is what gives me the opportunity to harvest game. Not by setting up a feeder at 100 yds and sitting in a blind wearing jeans and a t-shirt while shooting a rifle and calling it hunting. Those people should just go to the supermarket for their meat, it's just as easy. Now hunting a cornfield may be similar in theory, but the size of the field and the runs going to and from need to be analyzed before one could efficiently harvest an animal. there is much more knowledge and planning necessary.
sorry - Salmon River folks....don't mean to hijack - just responding to Deadeyez
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Is it legal to keep foul hooked walleye when jigging? I hope I'm not breaking the law when it comes up hooked in the side of the face!
:whistling: I did'nt read anything!!!
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actually the state wanted to keep snagging opened! just a aug15 to oct 31 season , 2 groups the federation of sportsmen and trout unlimited worked to stop snagging then other groups worked on the leader ! now heres the truth! as the state starts losing profits on the salmon , stockings will be cut this will also mean cuts in steelhead and browns! now i hear a lot about the "unsportsmen" and "ignornt" people that came to snag salmon well those people kept our lic fees down for years , helped supply the money for our turkey stocking programs and expanded the lake stocking program and built the salmon river hatchery! now that more then 1/2 of those unsportsmen and ignornt people don't buy a out of state lic to fish in new york well the burdons will be on us! thats just a fact ! me personally if they want to come spend money and take a dieing salmon GOD BLESS THEM ...please pay at front window .....again emotionlizm, salmon don't even have a nervious system capable of feeling pain! come rip a salmon get out by nov 1st we make money state makes money no dead salmon stinking the river up when i steelhead fish!!!!! it's time we all get real and stop acting high and mighty ,would ya complian about someone taking carp and gar pike with a bow????? or guys spearing suckers in the spring?????? omg do people still use trot lines for catfish?????????
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well question for all the bowhunters and keep in mind i been hunting with a bow for 40 years! we all make judgements about the man in that tour watching over a feeder killing a deer at 100 yrds with a .243 ....... what if he doesn't have our ability to make a clean shot anyother way???? should he not hunt???? or should he try to hunt like us and wound animals????? now we all like those deer up close but truth is we have all made a bad shot and lost a deer only two kinds of bowhunters would deny this ....ones that never shot at a deer and those that lie! maybe just maybe were being a little to judgemental if someone harvests a deer as long as it's in a legal form god bless him!!!! in a tree tour or ground with a gun or bow and using his abilitys GOD BLESS HIM!!!!!
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well question for all the bowhunters and keep in mind i been hunting with a bow for 40 years! we all make judgements about the man in that tour watching over a feeder killing a deer at 100 yrds with a .243 ....... what if he doesn't have our ability to make a clean shot anyother way???? should he not hunt???? or should he try to hunt like us and wound animals????? now we all like those deer up close but truth is we have all made a bad shot and lost a deer only two kinds of bowhunters would deny this ....ones that never shot at a deer and those that lie! maybe just maybe were being a little to judgemental if someone harvests a deer as long as it's in a legal form god bless him!!!! in a tree tour or ground with a gun or bow and using his abilitys GOD BLESS HIM!!!!!
You said it what ever makes you happy, whether it's horns on the wall or meat in the freezer. Man I hate people trying to force their high an mighty viewpoints on me.
Rippin salmon is fun, that's what it's all about. I don't think it hurts anything expect maybe a few elitist's feelings.
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What is the cost of an out-of -state fishing liesens now?
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Rippin salmon is fun, that's what it's all about. I don't think it hurts anything expect maybe a few elitist's feelings.
Learning to actually fish might be fun too. Give it a try :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:!
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Learning to actually fish might be fun too. Give it a try :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:!
SLAMMY'S a lifter, Rippin is just what we call it Esox! Hey Bunker No new fees til after October 1st, then I think it's 70 a year instead of 40! Mine goes from 19 to 29!
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GADDAM SALMON RIPPER'S ;D
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right now a out of state license is 40 dollars next year 70! i rather see half dead salmone headed to jersy and PA and that money left here to support other wildlife ventors!!!!
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GADDAM SALMON RIPPER'S ;D
:nono: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: Funny !!!!
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Learning to actually fish might be fun too. Give it a try :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:!
Actually fishing is fun too just not for Salmon. I would rather rip em!!!!!
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people are killin me with judgemental high and mighty opinions about my judgemental high and mighty opinions... ;D
I never said anything about the folks personally....just the fact that they call it hunting and put it on TV for us to assume it is. It doesn't teach the average hunter a thing...try and watch a couple.
as far as snagging goes, if that's what people want to do then go nuts...I won't condone it nor will I complain about the costs associated with being able to do it. I have been saying for years that it's an unbelievable bargain we have here in NY with hunting and fishing. People will go spend 50 bucks on bullets, or...dare I say, snag hooks....but will complain about spending a third of that to get a license to do it.
everyone has their own opinions about what is right and what is wrong....I'll stand by mine, even if it costs me a little more $$....and we all know what they say about opinions..... :o
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Actually fishing is fun too just not for Salmon. I would rather rip em!!!!!
oh salmon are a lot of fun fishing for ....out in the lake when there alive and silver nce there up in the river rip em,get them outta there before i go steelhead fishing
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People will go spend 50 bucks on bullets, or...dare I say, snag hooks....but will complain about spending a third of that to get a license to do it.
:o :o a third of that on a license :o i dont know about you guys but my license is gonna cost me 98$ this year i'd say thats a tad outta control.....yup im complaining about it ;D
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yup wouldn't it be better to allow out of staters to snag salmon for a few months and get a high percent of the dec budget from out of state lic instead of us?????? see my point now??????
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o.k. after thinking about this for oh two second's maybe they should have a special snagging license for people who wanna snag them lake ontario carp charge a hundred dollar's for a license have a two week season everyone come's out happy :cookoo:
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We can talk til were blue in the face, there will never be any fair lifting laws ever brought back! It was the best when the laws were simple, ALL FOUL HOOKED FISH MUST BE RELEASED WITHOUT ANY UNNESISARY INJURY PERIOD, and you had to have ATLEAST 2 FEET OF LEADER! The GOOD OLE DAYS, put it in your memory bank boys, the ELITISTS run the show now! Signed the king of the ROPERS!
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Anyone have any idea how deep ellis cove is? How deep is the deepest part of the salmon river.
A co-worker and I am having a discussion, and we were wondering.
Thanks,
Anchorman
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no snagger i don't want to just lift it's all a crock and you know it as well as me i'm in favor of having a open SNAGGING season! from aug 15 to oct 31 period! broom handle boat rods and salmon river crickets!!!!
reasons are simple it would bring the out of state money right back to this area!
these are stocked fish a totally put and take deal!!!! once in the river there systems shut down and the fish is doomed!
this will generate money to small busisness all along the lake increase sale tax rev and hotel taxes add sales tax rev to city towns and state plus it would cause a increase in the sale of out of state fishing lic!
it's foolishness to kill the goose that layed the golden egg and thats just whats happened! in all honesty there is no reason not to do this except people being misguided sence of morality involving a dieing fish and the excuse that a few steelhead and browns will be taken , the fishery has become a joke to begin with ,the flyfishing only section that trout unlimited wanted so bad being the biggest , as a flyfisherman i can assure you the "unsportsman and ignorant fisherman " that slips on a triple hook is at least honest about it! and a moouchin rod is just a lifting rod period! drift boat capt. openly joke about KAAAAA YAK flies!!!!! the only differance is i'm openly admitting the truth ! we loosing money and people who could enjoy the salmon run aren't comeing so a few can have the river the way they want it!
like i stated before would you complain about people shooting carb and gar pik with a bow???? or dip netting smelt ???? how about spearing suckers???? whats the differance???? only differance i can see are people being hard headed about this and forcing ones high and mighty beliefs one a fishery that most locals don't use anyways is doing nothing but costing us money!
most guides drift boat capts and charter boat capt.s are out of staters anyways! lets put the money right back where it belongs to the sportsman of this state and our small busisness,s around the lake
and by the way i was agaist snagging as a flyfisherman till i seen that in all honesty and truth this fishery would be better the way it was in the begining! it could be a real economic boost that could be enjoyed by many people instead of just a few people that know how to lift a fish and make it look like the fish hit!!!
say what ever you want i'm telling the gods honest truth
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Perhaps the state thought they could make more money in the way of fines, if they outlawed the "art" of snagging. I really don't think it should be an issue. I don't have a problem with anyone snagging, if made legal. Burns my a$$ that it goes on around me, while I try to do it the currently "legal" way.
The law is the law, I feel it should be changed back to being able to snag, but until then, the current laws need to be followed.
Anchorman
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no snagger i don't want to just lift it's all a crock and you know it as well as me i'm in favor of having a open SNAGGING season! from aug 15 to oct 31 period! broom handle boat rods and salmon river crickets!!!!
reasons are simple it would bring the out of state money right back to this area!
these are stocked fish a totally put and take deal!!!! once in the river there systems shut down and the fish is doomed!
this will generate money to small busisness all along the lake increase sale tax rev and hotel taxes add sales tax rev to city towns and state plus it would cause a increase in the sale of out of state fishing lic!
it's foolishness to kill the goose that layed the golden egg and thats just whats happened! in all honesty there is no reason not to do this except people being misguided sence of morality involving a dieing fish and the excuse that a few steelhead and browns will be taken , the fishery has become a joke to begin with ,the flyfishing only section that trout unlimited wanted so bad being the biggest , as a flyfisherman i can assure you the "unsportsman and ignorant fisherman " that slips on a triple hook is at least honest about it! and a moouchin rod is just a lifting rod period! drift boat capt. openly joke about KAAAAA YAK flies!!!!! the only differance is i'm openly admitting the truth ! we loosing money and people who could enjoy the salmon run aren't comeing so a few can have the river the way they want it!
like i stated before would you complain about people shooting carb and gar pik with a bow???? or dip netting smelt ???? how about spearing suckers???? whats the differance???? only differance i can see are people being hard headed about this and forcing ones high and mighty beliefs one a fishery that most locals don't use anyways is doing nothing but costing us money!
most guides drift boat capts and charter boat capt.s are out of staters anyways! lets put the money right back where it belongs to the sportsman of this state and our small busisness,s around the lake
and by the way i was agaist snagging as a flyfisherman till i seen that in all honesty and truth this fishery would be better the way it was in the begining! it could be a real economic boost that could be enjoyed by many people instead of just a few people that know how to lift a fish and make it look like the fish hit!!!
say what ever you want i'm telling the gods honest truth
petition petition petition!! I'll sign and i know a whole bunch more people that would also sign!
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Perhaps the state thought they could make more money in the way of fines, if they outlawed the "art" of snagging. I really don't think it should be an issue. I don't have a problem with anyone snagging, if made legal. Burns my a$$ that it goes on around me, while I try to do it the currently "legal" way.
The law is the law, I feel it should be changed back to being able to snag, but until then, the current laws need to be followed.
Anchorman
I have to ask you would you snag if it became legal? It doesnt seem that you think its a bad thing but i guarantee most of the people who are nay sayers would be right along side me snagging if it became legal and i was rippin in 20 fish to his 1 and having a ball fighting a 20+ pound salmon while he's sittin there holding a rod in his hand and few/no fish all day.
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Anyone have any idea how deep ellis cove is? How deep is the deepest part of the salmon river.
A co-worker and I am having a discussion, and we were wondering.
Thanks,
Anchorman
Ellis aint that deep, maybe 9 feet near the rip rap!The schoolhouse has no water over my head right now except a little in front of the rootball! When I was in my 20's we used to tube the River alot, sometimes body surf the pulaski rapids without tubes! The deepest holes I've swam in are the church hole, the hole below the papermill trestle bridge and the black hole! I'd say 14-16 feet!
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I have to ask you would you snag if it became legal? It doesnt seem that you think its a bad thing but i guarantee most of the people who are nay sayers would be right along side me snagging if it became legal and i was rippin in 20 fish to his 1 and having a ball fighting a 20+ pound salmon while he's sittin there holding a rod in his hand and few/no fish all day.
Sure I would. I have spent 6 years being blanked out, and I have finally figured out how to induce a strike, and am now fairly successful at hooking up. But if the laws changed tomorrow, i'd snag a few. With the amount of people on the salmon and oswego rivers, it's not really fishing anyways, it's a joke.
You won't find me there past 1 sept. I try to find a few in late August, and after that I focus on walleyes, and whitetail.
Anchorman
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no snagger i don't want to just lift it's all a crock and you know it as well as me i'm in favor of having a open SNAGGING season! from aug 15 to oct 31 period! broom handle boat rods and salmon river crickets!!!!
reasons are simple it would bring the out of state money right back to this area!
these are stocked fish a totally put and take deal!!!! once in the river there systems shut down and the fish is doomed!
this will generate money to small busisness all along the lake increase sale tax rev and hotel taxes add sales tax rev to city towns and state plus it would cause a increase in the sale of out of state fishing lic!
it's foolishness to kill the goose that layed the golden egg and thats just whats happened! in all honesty there is no reason not to do this except people being misguided sence of morality involving a dieing fish and the excuse that a few steelhead and browns will be taken , the fishery has become a joke to begin with ,the flyfishing only section that trout unlimited wanted so bad being the biggest , as a flyfisherman i can assure you the "unsportsman and ignorant fisherman " that slips on a triple hook is at least honest about it! and a moouchin rod is just a lifting rod period! drift boat capt. openly joke about KAAAAA YAK flies!!!!! the only differance is i'm openly admitting the truth ! we loosing money and people who could enjoy the salmon run aren't comeing so a few can have the river the way they want it!
like i stated before would you complain about people shooting carb and gar pik with a bow???? or dip netting smelt ???? how about spearing suckers???? whats the differance???? only differance i can see are people being hard headed about this and forcing ones high and mighty beliefs one a fishery that most locals don't use anyways is doing nothing but costing us money!
most guides drift boat capts and charter boat capt.s are out of staters anyways! lets put the money right back where it belongs to the sportsman of this state and our small busisness,s around the lake
and by the way i was agaist snagging as a flyfisherman till i seen that in all honesty and truth this fishery would be better the way it was in the begining! it could be a real economic boost that could be enjoyed by many people instead of just a few people that know how to lift a fish and make it look like the fish hit!!!
say what ever you want i'm telling the gods honest truth
Hey trap I've got all the estimated Angler effort and Expenditures (county by county) from the DEC for 1988, 1990, 1996, and a few more! Also some Cornell Studies about out state licences! Haven't looked at recent ones, but from the early nineties to the late 90's, theres a big drop across the board! But I lived it! The people with money and the people who couldn't hook fish wanted an empty private river and it looks like they'll get it in my lifetime!!
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oh salmon are a lot of fun fishing for ....out in the lake when there alive and silver nce there up in the river rip em,get them outta there before i go steelhead fishing
I was talking about the River. I do actually fish for them in the lake too and have a blast. Almost forgot I am actually capable of fishing.
I don't even want to keep those nasty fish, JUST RIP EM. I catch plenty of walleye perch etc... that I'll take any day over those salmon.
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Sure I would. I have spent 6 years being blanked out, and I have finally figured out how to induce a strike, and am now fairly successful at hooking up. But if the laws changed tomorrow, i'd snag a few. With the amount of people on the salmon and oswego rivers, it's not really fishing anyways, it's a joke.
You won't find me there past 1 sept. I try to find a few in late August, and after that I focus on walleyes, and whitetail.
Anchorman
Imagine being a snagger, then learning the bull head rig after a couple of years,then that's taken away from you! Then you throw J-plugs and that is taken away from you, then you learn how to get them in the MOUTH with a long leader and then that's taken away from you! God forbid you butt out a cig on the River, or jerk your pole the wrong way! After a decade people whom only fish here a few times a year just said the heck with it! I couldn't IMAGINE learning a way to walleye fish and have it changed every two years for a decade, I'd give up too! Ask the WAITRESSES and BAR TENDERS and motel operators who DON"T FISH, Not GUIDES, if it's better now a days, you'll get a ear full!
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The real trickle down effect MAJOR MONEY making seaon has been cut from 6 weeks of the early nineties to less than 3 weeks now a days! this years days the River will be a ZOO are from September 25th threw October 12th, before and after that the river is comfortablely empty(except up river for another 6 days after the 12th) I gauge this off Reservations and Fish cleaning! I always have people who want to know when it is the most comfortable to fish! The ball park,town rapids, papermill, will be badly crowded this year in September, now that we lost the lower black!
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I personally would like to see every new yorker out there to just opt out of buying a sporting license for a year, and everyone take up golf, and bowling. Then maybe we could bring the scumbags in Albany to the bargaining table, on our terms. I'm certain that would catch someones attention in a hurry.
Anchorman
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Snagger don't mind. ;D
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well, there are enough people who would want snagging bag for one reason or another. I wouldn't do it myself, but I sure would like to see if the coffers fill up better with snagging back as an option. I'm pretty sure that the portly oinkers (is that PC enough) in Albany will find other ways to spend that extra money instead of increasing stocking program and managing watersheds.
The problem is that the pro snaggers are a quiet bunch and the flyfihers and elitists are apparently the loudest.
What is the next step...?
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???wait a minute there is still smelt to be dipped :o i thought the salmon ate them all yup lets keep the salmon they are good for the landfill >:(
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I have to ask you would you snag if it became legal? It doesnt seem that you think its a bad thing but i guarantee most of the people who are nay sayers would be right along side me snagging if it became legal and i was rippin in 20 fish to his 1 and having a ball fighting a 20+ pound salmon while he's sittin there holding a rod in his hand and few/no fish all day.
Nope, I would just leave and find another spot or stay and every time my line drifted under yours I'd set the hook and break the cable your fishing with... after an hour of you getting broke off... you would need to go get more salmon river may flies. I'm sorry but all you snagging guys make me want to puke, even more than the L L BEAN poster boy.... fly dorks.
I'm sure glad they no longer use lead paint
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Well I was never around for the snagging section but I did enjoy the 15 foot leaders. I wouldnt mind at all if they brought that back.
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Nope, I would just leave and find another spot or stay and every time my line drifted under yours I'd set the hook and break the cable your fishing with... after an hour of you getting broke off... you would need to go get more salmon river may flies. I'm sorry but all you snagging guys make me want to puke, even more than the L L BEAN poster boy.... fly dorks.
I'm sure glad they no longer use lead paint
WAIT A MINUTE!!!! YOUR SAYING IF SNAGGING WAS LEGAL YOU WOULD BE CUTTING LINES ???? AND YA I KNOW HOW TO DO THAT VERY WELL WITH A 10 FOOT LOOMIS TOO :) (DRIFT LOW WAIT TILL CROSSED THERE LINE GETS TIGHT ...SET HOOK ...SLICE AND DICE COMPLETE)....ISN'T THAT HARRASSMENT DURING A LEGAL ACTIVITY???? GUESS THOSE SNAGGERS JUST MIGHT BE THE REAL SPORTSMEN AFTER ALL!!!!!!
NO ONE SAID YOU WOULD LOSE STEELHEAD FISHING ONLY A SNAGGING SEASON , TRUTH IS THE FLYRODDERS AND STEELHEAD FISHERMAN JUST CAN'T BRING THE ECONMIC ADJANTAGES THAT THE SALMON CROWD BRINGS.
BESIDES THERES ROOM FOR EVERYONE NOT TO MENTION THIS WOULD BE ECONMIC BOOST FOR A AREA THATS BEEN HIT HARD.
I HONESTLY THINK THAT IF A PETITION WAS STARTED AND ENOUGH PEOPLE IN THE AREA SIGNED THE STATE WOULD LISTEN
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Nope, I would just leave and find another spot or stay and every time my line drifted under yours I'd set the hook and break the cable your fishing with... after an hour of you getting broke off... you would need to go get more salmon river may flies. I'm sorry but all you snagging guys make me want to puke, even more than the L L BEAN poster boy.... fly dorks.
I'm sure glad they no longer use lead paint
I love guys like you. Thats why I fish with 65lb braid. you'll either break your line, or i'll cut your rig off when i'm done reeling it in across the river. I meet a few guys like you every year..LOL!!!!!
The beauty of it is, I still hook up with fish the legal way running 20lb flourocarbon, and braid. Can't wait for the day I can jerk a rod out of someones hand..HE!HE!HE!
Anchorman
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WAIT A MINUTE!!!! YOUR SAYING IF SNAGGING WAS LEGAL YOU WOULD BE CUTTING LINES ???? AND YA I KNOW HOW TO DO THAT VERY WELL WITH A 10 FOOT LOOMIS TOO :) (DRIFT LOW WAIT TILL CROSSED THERE LINE GETS TIGHT ...SET HOOK ...SLICE AND DICE COMPLETE)....ISN'T THAT HARRASSMENT DURING A LEGAL ACTIVITY???? GUESS THOSE SNAGGERS JUST MIGHT BE THE REAL SPORTSMEN AFTER ALL!!!!!!
NO ONE SAID YOU WOULD LOSE STEELHEAD FISHING ONLY A SNAGGING SEASON , TRUTH IS THE FLYRODDERS AND STEELHEAD FISHERMAN JUST CAN'T BRING THE ECONMIC ADJANTAGES THAT THE SALMON CROWD BRINGS.
BESIDES THERES ROOM FOR EVERYONE NOT TO MENTION THIS WOULD BE ECONMIC BOOST FOR A AREA THATS BEEN HIT HARD.
I HONESTLY THINK THAT IF A PETITION WAS STARTED AND ENOUGH PEOPLE IN THE AREA SIGNED THE STATE WOULD LISTEN
Very well said, TRAP.
......And I might add, that it would be nice to see it go back, and you could legally lift, or snag during the salmon run in the river. I used to lift in the Oswego river for a number of years till they made the laws the way they ended up. It just wasn't worth it anymore, especially since I fished the lake anyway.
But, I shure do miss it. It was alot of fun....It was a whole diff. animal.
Can't wait for the day I can jerk a rod out of someones hand..HE!HE!HE!
Anchorman
I agree with you entirely, Anchorman.
I've been there and actually done it,....for real! :laugh:.....to some other ignorant inbisole who purposely tried to do that very samething, to me, and others, that I was wading around in the river with!,.....that Esox V mentioned about.
He wasn't too thrilled to watch his rod n reel go bye bye!...flying into the channel at Oswego river, after I ripped it out of his sweaty palms with one nice yank with my mighty Penn reel, and 12 foot 'meat stick' rod!
Needless to say, that TOUGH GUY! :-* couldn't back up his lips! :-*.....the rest is history. ;D
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Nope, I would just leave and find another spot or stay and every time my line drifted under yours I'd set the hook and break the cable your fishing with... after an hour of you getting broke off... you would need to go get more salmon river may flies. I'm sorry but all you snagging guys make me want to puke, even more than the L L BEAN poster boy.... fly dorks.
I'm sure glad they no longer use lead paint
Ya really man thats not too sportsman like to cut other peoples lines just because you dont agree with what they are doin.....if and only if snagging was made legal i think you could definitely get in trouble for harassment by doing that.....what if you did that to someone standing next to you and it was an undercover DEC officer.....i dont think he would take too kindly to that
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I was out fishing today, and that was alot of reading I just had to do. Well done, it was very enjoyable, almost felt like I was standing shoulder to shoulder argueing with you guys in 1992 on the Salmon River! I loved the Arguements back then, miss all the hooting and hollering of the old days when some ones wife or kids had a fish on or landed there first!! No one says FISH ON anymore hardly( don't want to draw attention to ones self), the Rivers are Eriely Quiet now compared to the old days! No one can take my Memories away from me, although I don't remember alot of the 90's! FISH ON! FISH COMING DOWN! FISH COMING UP! OH FISH OFF! ;D
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I miss my 9' leader.
I miss my 12 footer!
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heres a question if i can only have a 4 footleader as written in the book! then how can anyone fish a 9 foot leader in the flyfishing section???? or with any flyrod for that matter?????
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special rules were written to target anyone outside of drift boats pulling plugs and flyfisherman SPECIAL INTEREST they messed up writting the 4 ft rule if you read it exactly the way written then every flyfisherman in that river is breaking the law and not one ticket has been handed out!
time to work at getting our river back
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Very well said, TRAP.
......And I might add, that it would be nice to see it go back, and you could legally lift, or snag during the salmon run in the river. I used to lift in the Oswego river for a number of years till they made the laws the way they ended up. It just wasn't worth it anymore, especially since I fished the lake anyway.
But, I shure do miss it. It was alot of fun....It was a whole diff. animal.
I agree with you entirely, Anchorman.
I've been there and actually done it,....for real! :laugh:.....to some other ignorant inbisole who purposely tried to do that very samething, to me, and others, that I was wading around in the river with!,.....that Esox V mentioned about.
He wasn't too thrilled to watch his rod n reel go bye bye!...flying into the channel at Oswego river, after I ripped it out of his sweaty palms with one nice yank with my mighty Penn reel, and 12 foot 'meat stick' rod!
Needless to say, that TOUGH GUY! :-* couldn't back up his lips! :-*.....the rest is history. ;D
Oh, thats beautiful. Wish I coulda seen it.... ;D
Sounds like the set-up I have. I bring the heavy gear for the idiots, not the fish. Lord knows you can't really get the full potential out of 65LB braid on a fish, when the hook gap can't exceed 1/2". I think most kings jawbones are thicker. However, it's plenty for everything else on the river ;)
Anchorman
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my idea of the perfect salmon river fishery first we make power company release water from bottom of res. this will cause river temps to drop allowing a health population of browns and rainbows :) aug 15 starts the snagging season for 46 days people will be allowed to take kings with snag hooks nov 1 we can start fishing steelhead threw the winter months by early april trout once again will be on our minds as we wait for the mayflies to hatch omg a year round fishery!!!!!!........... oh darn we had that in the early 70's ......why were we stupid enough to let it go and why is it the anti snaggers only cause is to save a dieing fish and let the river go to waste!!!!!!!!!!!
fisherman my age that lived here remeber and know what i'm talking about! 40 to 50 fish days on dry flies!
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ANDDDDDDDDDDD........ WITH A FISHERY LIKE THAT THE DRIFT BOATS WOULD BE RUNNING ALL SUMMER!!!! LOOK AT THE BEAVERKILL AND DELAWARE!!!!
NOTHING PERSONAL BUT I THINK SOME PEOPLE ARE EITHER BLIND, STUBBORN OR DOWN RIGHT STUPID
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my idea of the perfect salmon river fishery first we make power company release water from bottom of res. this will cause river temps to drop allowing a health population of browns and rainbows :) aug 15 starts the snagging season for 46 days people will be allowed to take kings with snag hooks nov 1 we can start fishing steelhead threw the winter months by early april trout once again will be on our minds as we wait for the mayflies to hatch omg a year round fishery!!!!!!........... oh darn we had that in the early 70's ......why were we stupid enough to let it go and why is it the anti snaggers only cause is to save a dieing fish and let the river go to waste!!!!!!!!!!!
fisherman my age that lived here remeber and know what i'm talking about! 40 to 50 fish days on dry flies!
Well, lets all start snagging, what are they gonna do? Arrest us all??LOL!!!! 200 guys with spinning gear in the UFZ.
Strength in numbers!!!!!
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WAIT A MINUTE!!!! YOUR SAYING IF SNAGGING WAS LEGAL YOU WOULD BE CUTTING LINES ???? AND YA I KNOW HOW TO DO THAT VERY WELL WITH A 10 FOOT LOOMIS TOO :) (DRIFT LOW WAIT TILL CROSSED THERE LINE GETS TIGHT ...SET HOOK ...SLICE AND DICE COMPLETE)....ISN'T THAT HARRASSMENT DURING A LEGAL ACTIVITY???? GUESS THOSE SNAGGERS JUST MIGHT BE THE REAL SPORTSMEN AFTER ALL!!!!!!
NO ONE SAID YOU WOULD LOSE STEELHEAD FISHING ONLY A SNAGGING SEASON , TRUTH IS THE FLYRODDERS AND STEELHEAD FISHERMAN JUST CAN'T BRING THE ECONMIC ADJANTAGES THAT THE SALMON CROWD BRINGS.
BESIDES THERES ROOM FOR EVERYONE NOT TO MENTION THIS WOULD BE ECONMIC BOOST FOR A AREA THATS BEEN HIT HARD.
I HONESTLY THINK THAT IF A PETITION WAS STARTED AND ENOUGH PEOPLE IN THE AREA SIGNED THE STATE WOULD LISTEN
Most of the time I would just leave . Actually the area I used to fish a lot.... most off the people fishing there were great which was the reason we all fished there.
I'm fine with a snagging if its in a designated area. I realize that the handy capable people should be able to catch a salmon too. I mean I've seen people who couldn't snag a salmon with treble hook in small creeks.... where you could see the fish !!! I'm good with it. This is how the sign should read...... This area is designated for anglers who ate way to many lead paint chips when they were kids. This argument is a waste of time... here I was thinking I would pull out the 11 foot loomis 2#. after all these years this place still rubs me the wrong way.
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I love guys like you. Thats why I fish with 65lb braid. you'll either break your line, or i'll cut your rig off when i'm done reeling it in across the river. I meet a few guys like you every year..LOL!!!!!
The beauty of it is, I still hook up with fish the legal way running 20lb flourocarbon, and braid. Can't wait for the day I can jerk a rod out of someones hand..HE!HE!HE!
Anchorman
65# Braid!!! Let me guess ... when you hook em you just put the rod over your shoulder and walk up the bank. That sounds like soooooo much fun . I love the guys that fish with line so heavy that they can even break it themselves. When they snag they cut there line and it trails downstream and everyone catches on it for the rest of the season. They need to cater to more people like them up there.
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65# Braid!!! Let me guess ... when you hook em you just put the rod over your shoulder and walk up the bank. That sounds like soooooo much fun . I love the guys that fish with line so heavy that they can even break it themselves. When they snag they cut there line and it trails downstream and everyone catches on it for the rest of the season. They need to cater to more people like them up there.
No reason for me to cut the line, if I get snagged on bottom, or fish is foul-hooked vs fair play,I crank the drag down and straighten the hook completely, then there is no garbage in the river, unlike the slobs that leave miles of 6lb tippet material littering the streambanks. the most I lose are the occasional splitshot, here or there.
I am proficient enough with heavy gear, that my hook is the weakest link, not 12 feet of 6lb flouocarbon leader material those cowboys with their purty little orvis flyrods leave attached to the fish.
Like I said before, the braided stuff really shines when i'm dealing with rif-raf on the opposing bank.
It's the best of both worlds. I can finesse a fish, and make the occasional life miserable. ;D ;D
Anchorman
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Most of the time I would just leave . Actually the area I used to fish a lot.... most off the people fishing there were great which was the reason we all fished there.
I'm fine with a snagging if its in a designated area. I realize that the handy capable people should be able to catch a salmon too. I mean I've seen people who couldn't snag a salmon with treble hook in small creeks.... where you could see the fish !!! I'm good with it. This is how the sign should read...... This area is designated for anglers who ate way to many lead paint chips when they were kids. This argument is a waste of time... here I was thinking I would pull out the 11 foot loomis 2#. after all these years this place still rubs me the wrong way.
YEP JUST LIKE SO MANY CAN'T ADMITT A MISTAKE HAS BEEN MADE AND WHEN YOU CAN'T BACK UP YOUR STATEMENTS YOU THROW INSULTS ..... VERY UNSPORTSMEN LIKE AND UNEDUCATED EVERYTHING FROM THE PAST FISHERY TO THE PURE ECONIMICS OF THIS SUBJECT THAT I STATED ARE TRUE AND ARE BACKED BY THE DATA!
BEING A SPORTSMEN ISN'T ALWAYS ABOUT BUYING A LOOMIS OR ST CROIX ...(I USE A SAGE MYSELF) GETTING A PAIR OF WADERS AND A VESTFROM ORVIS , IT'S ABOUT LOOKING AT WHAT WOULD BENFIT THE MOST PEOPLE AND BRINGING A RIVER BACK TO LIFE, I REMIND YOU SALMON RIVER WAS ALSO A PRIME NATIVE BROOK TROUT WATER,I WANT THAT BACK TOO...
NOTHING SAID HERE IS TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM YOU ESOX IT'S TO GIVE TO OTHERS AND RESTORE A FISHERY THAT IS CLEARLY HURTING!IT'S TO BRING BACK THE BUSISNESS THAT HAS BEEN LOST AFTER 30 YEARS OF MISTAKEN MANAGEMENT AND TO RESTORE A RIVER TO IT'S ONCE PRISTINE PLACE.
AT THE PREASANT RATE OF DECLINE NO ONE WILL BE FISHING SALMON RIVER AND I HONESTLY WONDER WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU WERE THERE?
NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT WE CAN USE THE REVINUE FROM THE SNAGGERS TO RESTORE THE RIVER ,PEOPLE THAT DEPEND ON THE TOURISM DOLLARS FOR THERE LIVELYHOODS WOULD BE GREATLY BENFITTED THE STATE WOULD GET A INCREASE IN LIC SALES AND THE TOWN AND COUNTY WOULD MAKE ON THE INCREASE IN SALES TAX!
AND HERES THE PART ESOX THAT YOU DON'T GET ESOX YOU'D BE TROUTFISHING YEAR ROUND !!!!! YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT KIND OF TROUT FISHERY WAS LOST THERE !!!!
NOW I DON'T EAT PAINT CHIPS WITH LEAD AND I BEEN FISHING THAT RIVER FOR ABOUT 50 YEARS SO MAYBE THATS WHY I HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW THEN YOU.
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65# Braid!!! Let me guess ... when you hook em you just put the rod over your shoulder and walk up the bank. That sounds like soooooo much fun . I love the guys that fish with line so heavy that they can even break it themselves. When they snag they cut there line and it trails downstream and everyone catches on it for the rest of the season. They need to cater to more people like them up there.
I HAVE VOLUNTEERED FOR THE SALMON RIVER CLEAN UP MANY TIMES ESOX HAVE YOU?????
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Gaddam salmon snaggers...so easy...even a caveman can do it. :nono:
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Round Seven is due to begin in five minutes... Keep it clean and come out fighting!
Or lifting, or snagging, or swinging streamers, or whatever it is you prefer to do on the river...
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lmaoooooo jimmy that was funny
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Gaddam salmon snaggers...so easy...even a caveman can do it. :nono:
Whats the big deal???? Is it a rite of manhood, or something to make a king strike instinctively on their deathbed?
Why should you, or anyone else care? When kings start spawning, and headed back out to the lake for another 4 year cycle, then you may have a point, until that happens, bite your tongue.
I don't have one single problem with snagging.
My problem lies with the common courtesy on the banks. When one man can give his neighbor a few moments to fight his foul-hooked fish in peace, the world will be right. And while your waiting for your neighbor to finish up, feel free to have a leaded paintchip. Esox V may have a baggie of them if you run out. ;D
Anchorman
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question have you ever snagged a salmon????? if not then you don't know and if so were you a caveman at the time??????????? lol we all point fingers bottom line look how much we would all benfit from a snagging season! the impact would greatly increase the moneys avaliable for other wildlife projects! that 70 dollar lic fee becomes 140 bucks with the federal matching grant!!!!!
the math is so easy even a caveman can do it :))
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I said it once i'll say it again petition petition petition ;D
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Round Seven is due to begin in five minutes... Keep it clean and come out fighting!
Or lifting, or snagging, or swinging streamers, or whatever it is you prefer to do on the river...
Waste my time whenever I want, with with MY WHISKEY HANGOVER! With MY WHISKEY HANGOVER! :cookoo:
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Comparison of money spent in Pulaski:
Snagging
- $25 for ocean rod/reel fully loaded with 80 lbs test
- $3 for a box of six snag hooks
- $9 case of Milwaukees best
Total $37 spent in local economy by a snagger
Fly-fishing
-$350 St Croix Fly rod/reel
-$20 Tippet
-$10 leader material
-$40 assorted flies
-$25 local bar
Total $445 spent in local economy by a fly-fisherman
$445 divided by $37 equals 12.02
In conclusion...a fly fisherman spends the same as 12 snaggers. Must be one of the reasons they out-lawed it?
;D
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Comparison of money spent in Pulaski:
Snagging
- $25 for ocean rod/reel fully loaded with 80 lbs test
- $3 for a box of six snag hooks
- $9 case of Milwaukees best
Total $37 spent in local economy by a snagger
Fly-fishing
-$350 St Croix Fly rod/reel
-$20 Tippet
-$10 leader material
-$40 assorted flies
-$25 local bar
Total $445 spent in local economy by a fly-fisherman
$445 divided by $37 equals 12.02
In conclusion...a fly fisherman spends the same as 12 snaggers. Must be one of the reasons they out-lawed it?
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Yea but snagging would bring the snaggers in numbers and with it legal the snaggers would out number the flyfisherman 50 to 1 probably so using your numbers 37x50=1850......1850 divided by 445 = 4.16
in conclusion.....with snagging being made legal snaggers would out number the flyfisherman by 50 to 1 and spend 4 times as much money as the flyfishers....this is also considering that each flyfisherman comes to ny to buy a 350$ rod and reel....with every math problem there is always variables but it looks to me that snaggers would out number the flyfishers in numbers of people and total revenue brought to ny.......i think i might have found the reasons our awesome lawmakers made snagging illegal :cookoo: :flag:
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Yea but snagging would bring the snaggers in numbers and with it legal the snaggers would out number the flyfisherman 50 to 1 probably so using your numbers 37x50=1850......1850 divided by 445 = 4.16
in conclusion.....with snagging being made legal snaggers would out number the flyfisherman by 50 to 1 and spend 4 times as much money as the flyfishers....this is also considering that each flyfisherman comes to ny to buy a 350$ rod and reel....with every math problem there is always variables but it looks to me that snaggers would out number the flyfishers in numbers of people and total revenue brought to ny.......i think i might have found the reasons our awesome lawmakers made snagging illegal :cookoo: :flag:
today on a Connecticut radio station i herd an ad to " take a break" and come to New York and do some camping and fishing. Someone in your state is trying to bring in some new revenues
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Comparison of money spent in Pulaski:
Snagging
- $25 for ocean rod/reel fully loaded with 80 lbs test
- $3 for a box of six snag hooks
- $9 case of Milwaukees best
Total $37 spent in local economy by a snagger
Fly-fishing
-$350 St Croix Fly rod/reel
-$20 Tippet
-$10 leader material
-$40 assorted flies
-$25 local bar
Total $445 spent in local economy by a fly-fisherman
$445 divided by $37 equals 12.02
In conclusion...a fly fisherman spends the same as 12 snaggers. Must be one of the reasons they out-lawed it?
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Yeah you got all sorts of holes in your theories.
First, my snagging rig costsclose to 250.00, fully spooled up.
2nd, you left out the lead. Very expensive, since i've had to start importing from Florida. (tin is for sissys.)
3rd, how many wanna-be fly fishermen would leave the flyswatter in the garage, grab their ugly stick and join the masses for some real fun????
And the obvious, the numbers would be 10 fold with the legalization. Hell, the DSR may even start selling trebles.....anything to make a buck!!!!!!! ;D
BazookaJoe, are you by any chance a democrat?
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I HAVE VOLUNTEERED FOR THE SALMON RIVER CLEAN UP MANY TIMES ESOX HAVE YOU?????
Nope I can honestly say I never have been involved with the salmon river clean up . If your talking about when the drift boat s drag their anchors and pull all the crap out of the water. NO... I HAVE NOT !!! I Always have my guide basket and I always left with it full of crap. sometimes I could barley pick it up. I always clean up for me and everyone around me. Not just one time..... but every time single time I was out. EVERY TIME !!!!!
When I was in college I remember picking through the pile by the paper mill because I couldn't afford anything but the gas to get me there. I loved fishing that river every d**n hour of free time I had I would spend fishing that river. As I got older I got sick of dealing with the JERKS and walked away and never went back.
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Comparison of money spent in Pulaski:
Snagging
- $25 for ocean rod/reel fully loaded with 80 lbs test
- $3 for a box of six snag hooks
- $9 case of Milwaukees best
Total $37 spent in local economy by a snagger
Fly-fishing
-$350 St Croix Fly rod/reel
-$20 Tippet
-$10 leader material
-$40 assorted flies
-$25 local bar
Total $445 spent in local economy by a fly-fisherman
$445 divided by $37 equals 12.02
In conclusion...a fly fisherman spends the same as 12 snaggers. Must be one of the reasons they out-lawed it?
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your math is a little of first my st croix 5 wt cost 49 bucks at dicks! granted my sage cost a little more a goog ocean rod and reel combo pack is about the same as a combo flyrod !!!! secound flyfisherman do not spent much money flys they ty themselfs and most other stuff are flyfishing stores only !!!! don't believe me call the area shops that are hurting in the area !
degrading people is childish and to be honest poor taste thats not what any of my comments were about it was about bringing resources back into the area opening up opertunities to others to enjoythemselves and to reestablish a trout fishery in salmon river!
now seems a few toes got steped on because omg someone is telling the truth!!! truth is 99% of the legal hooked salmon in that river are lined! period thats why a 4 ft leader law hurts! so why lie we all know it's true.
so you give up 49 days for a snagging season ,isn't that better then possiable losing the whole thing?????
the end resolt would be econic advantages for the area busisness , a higher revnew to the state which i remind you those people with 40 dollar poles paid for our turkey stocking program!!!!! thats no lie !
now you also either forget or don't understand that there is a federal matching funds for fishing llic sold in new york so that 70 dollars becomes 140 this extra money could be used to improve the water flow back to it's original form on the salmon river and again have a health year round trout fishery!
now another thing i don't snag! i flyfish!!!!! but i do do math and i want a year round fishery there i also grew up in the ares and been fishing that river almost 50 years and i'm telling you the only person that would say it's better now would be either a idiot or ted turner!!!!!
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Nope I can honestly say I never have been involved with the salmon river clean up . If your talking about when the drift boat s drag their anchors and pull all the crap out of the water. NO... I HAVE NOT !!! I Always have my guide basket and I always left with it full of crap. sometimes I could barley pick it up. I always clean up for me and everyone around me. Not just one time..... but every time single time I was out. EVERY TIME !!!!!
When I was in college I remember picking through the pile by the paper mill because I couldn't afford anything but the gas to get me there. I loved fishing that river every d**n hour of free time I had I would spend fishing that river. As I got older I got sick of dealing with the JERKS and walked away and never went back.
wait your never coming back!!!!!!!! even though those aweful snaggers are gone! but your still not going back huh????? can it be that the new crowd leaves the same mess???? and if your never going back why are you even complaining??? is it you just don't want people to be able to go have fun and the area reap some econmic rewards????? do you run out and grap the kids ball when it rolls in your yard and not give it back????
and baz we never once said close the flyfishing section!!!! so you wouldn't lose there money nor there place were just adding to it
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Honestly You guys are telling me that the reason Pulaski I failing is because they outlawed snagging. Then what about the rest of the world.... how do they all make a living with out snagging salmon ? You all made your bed now SLEEP IN IT. It's 2009 not 1980 and that place doesn't look much different then it did back then. Times changed that place never did !!!!
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wait your never coming back!!!!!!!! even though those aweful snaggers are gone! but your still not going back huh????? can it be that the new crowd leaves the same mess???? and if your never going back why are you even complaining??? is it you just don't want people to be able to go have fun and the area reap some econmic rewards????? do you run out and grap the kids ball when it rolls in your yard and not give it back????
and baz we never once said close the flyfishing section!!!! so you wouldn't lose there money nor there place were just adding to it
Funny.... I don't flyfish for salmon or steelhead. I have an Martin 72 with an old 9 wt lamaglass G1000 flyrod that has mono on it.
Like most people... I'm kind of stuck between the LL BEAN posterboy on the degenerate blind snagger. If they are going to make a snagging section for the Mentally challenged . the section below the bridge in Altmar would be my pick. This is getting old.
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first of all ya should price a lamiglas blank second insults again well i only fight with my ex wife son however when you wish to discusse things like a gentleman let me know
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and really the lead chip thing isn't humorist a lot of children died and did become ill because of that , thats rather a sad comment
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a HANDY CAPABLE, LEAD PAINT CHIP, WINDOW LICKER
??? ??? am i the only one who doesnt get this ??? ???
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Comparison of money spent in Pulaski:
Snagging
- $25 for ocean rod/reel fully loaded with 80 lbs test ( Not posible about 60 minimum )
- $3 for a box of six snag hooks ( For one hours fishing!)
- $9 case of Milwaukees best ( They all drank bud or Labatts over $20 a cased ) (usually 30 packs of NJ bud!)
Total $37 spent in local economy by a snagger
Fly-fishing
-$350 St Croix Fly rod/reel ( Lifters back then used fly rods with mono! )
-$20 Tippet
-$10 leader material
-$40 assorted flies ( Got me on this one, just sponge! )
-$25 local bar SNAGGERS SPENT 100 PER NIGHT!
( Back then 8 man room had 8 now 2 or 3 people )
Total $445 spent in local economy by a fly-fisherman
$445 divided by $37 equals 12.02
In conclusion...a fly fisherman spends the same as 12 snaggers. Must be one of the reasons they out-lawed it?
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Hey Joe I'm NOT argueing with you, your theory is right, but that isn't the way it works out! I've made $ off of both groups and HANDS DOWN, the snaggers/lifters spent way more money, wasn't even CLOSE! They came up with wallets full of cash and weren't happen unless they went home with no money! Like going to a casino! They tipped watresses,cleaning girls,guides,fish cleaners,bar tenders,motel owners ect... They bought everything here beer,snacks,tackle,dinners,fish ckleaning(which was HUGE) ect... There was more of them, fly fishers come up 1 or 2 at a time, snaggers/lifters came up in large groups(6-12) MAJOR LODGING MONEY! Flyfishers are alot tighter with there money and buy most of thier stuff before they get here! Catch ya later Joe!
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your math is a little of first my st croix 5 wt cost 49 bucks at dicks! granted my sage cost a little more a goog ocean rod and reel combo pack is about the same as a combo flyrod !!!! secound flyfisherman do not spent much money flys they ty themselfs and most other stuff are flyfishing stores only !!!! don't believe me call the area shops that are hurting in the area !
degrading people is childish and to be honest poor taste thats not what any of my comments were about it was about bringing resources back into the area opening up opertunities to others to enjoythemselves and to reestablish a trout fishery in salmon river!
now seems a few toes got steped on because omg someone is telling the truth!!! truth is 99% of the legal hooked salmon in that river are lined! period thats why a 4 ft leader law hurts! so why lie we all know it's true.
so you give up 49 days for a snagging season ,isn't that better then possiable losing the whole thing?????
the end resolt would be econic advantages for the area busisness , a higher revnew to the state which i remind you those people with 40 dollar poles paid for our turkey stocking program!!!!! thats no lie !
now you also either forget or don't understand that there is a federal matching funds for fishing llic sold in new york so that 70 dollars becomes 140 this extra money could be used to improve the water flow back to it's original form on the salmon river and again have a health year round trout fishery!
now another thing i don't snag! i flyfish!!!!! but i do do math and i want a year round fishery there i also grew up in the ares and been fishing that river almost 50 years and i'm telling you the only person that would say it's better now would be either a idiot or ted turner!!!!!
YOU are right trap on the revenues! I was a lifter, never have ever used a snag hook, was no problem hooking 150 a day with a fly rod and mono! But I lived here or close by, out of staters don't get to do it every day! It would be different if they hadn't allowed us to get addicted to it then take it away from us! What I'm saying is, is I never did it, but sure miss the money!
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This debate is really going nowhere, it isn't coming back! I went to all the meetings on long leaders & snagging and lost. We did keep the brooks open though years ago!
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This debate is really going nowhere, it isn't coming back! I went to all the meetings on long leaders & snagging and lost. We did keep the brooks open though years ago!
never say never! especally with a state that changes the rules at least once evry 2 years!!!! now here is something to think about! there is no biologogal or managamebtal reason to any of the laws involved in salmon fishing once they rnter the river ! simply the fish are going to die ! period
all the law chamges since the begining have not been to protect the fish!!!! it's been to make special interest happy !!!!
and it's not all the states problem either, now the state is scared if they reverse anything special interest will be howling, states not stupid they want the money too and thats the level to approch this......
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and really the lead chip thing isn't humorist a lot of children died and did become ill because of that , thats rather a sad comment
Sorry you were offended. I have edited my post.
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This debate is really going nowhere, it isn't coming back! I went to all the meetings on long leaders & snagging and lost. We did keep the brooks open though years ago!
Alright I'm done poking fun. Snag what was the stated reason behind the leader change if you know and who was lobbying for the change. Why do you feel it's not likley to be over turned.
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Alright I'm done poking fun. Snag what was the stated reason behind the leader change if you know and who was lobbying for the change. Why do you feel it's not likley to be over turned.
They never made a valid point why we couldn't use it during salmon season, they didn't want us stressing out hold over winter steelhead! They said a long leader was a tool to line fish and that too many steelhead were being hooked and released during the winter months! I told them if you don't want anybody hooking fish in the winter and releasing them then close the fly zones down and the river for that matter and I'll find a new line of work during the winter! Now the Center Pinners are lighting the place up all winter and again the FLY fishermen are getting Jealous about them out hooking them. I've already read about the fly guys complaining that center pinn float rodders get to use lead above 4 feet! The leader law reads no added lead above 4 feet period, but the wardens let the bobber guys slide! The fly guys who put strike indicators 6 feet up over 4 feet of water are just lining fish too! If there is such a thing as lining, I remember fishing the schoolhouse in the winter with a 9 footer and it sure did feel like a bite. but what do I know only been fishing for them 30 years! What ever happen to the creative American spirit?
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the lobby effert for the 4 ft leader was begun with several drift boat captions that also enlisted help from a flyfishing organzation the reasons again are pretty much many drift boats don't want anyone catching fish except themselves!!!! in 7 years time the leader went from 4 foot max to a 4 ft min back to a 4 foot max!!!!!! and it doesn't just effect the salmon fishing esox that clearly effects the steelhead fisherman in the river!!!!! the only people it doesn't effect is a flyfisherman or a drift boat pulling plugs !!!!!
again being 100% honest give me a 3 foot leader and let me see a salmon i'll legal hook him all day long and i'll be lifting everytime!
thats a fact!!!!
now drift for steelhead and see how many fish hit a 4 ft leader!!!!!
it's not just bringing a snagging season esox it's ending the special interest on the river it's killing the fishery
i personally could care about a salmon i can set a dowmrigger and i like seeing them silver not black ok but i do love steelhead and i do love fishing a rise and i do love really flyfishing and not the joke at salmon river (if your going to lift be honest)
and i do have many friends and relatives that have lost good money because of the changing rules and the state letting stutents from the dec cut there teeth on oswego and salmon river.
this isn't proper fish management this is plain robbery and we the sportsmen are starting to feel the effects in closed hatcherys and higher lic cost .
and it effects the lively hoods of many people and ya snagger is one of the many
you can use all the nasty comments you want the truth is everysportsmen in new york did benifit from the snaggers and the money they left! and it hurts not to have that money.
comments about paint chips and mentally challenged people are for children and idiots i would think if you were a collage student you would be above that and really look at the issue and the ways it could again be used to benfit every sportsmen in this state
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never say never! especally with a state that changes the rules at least once evry 2 years!!!! now here is something to think about! there is no biologogal or managamebtal reason to any of the laws involved in salmon fishing once they rnter the river ! simply the fish are going to die ! period
all the law chamges since the begining have not been to protect the fish!!!! it's been to make special interest happy !!!!
and it's not all the states problem either, now the state is scared if they reverse anything special interest will be howling, states not stupid they want the money too and thats the level to approch this......
If you just simply got rid of the lead law (leader), and let us put splits where we feel necessary! We could hold the guys we have now and build off of that. Another problem is fishing access, we are losing large chunks of the River every year! Pushing the public into tighter and tighter area's that are State owned!
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I went to meetings with 40 guides and business owners! Everybody had there own agenda! Nobody agreed on anything! We just need silly laws off the books, we should be able to do anything we feel is necessary to catch fish in the Salmon River! If you want to float a bobber do it, if you want to plug for them do it , run 10 feet of lead, then do it , try spinners, if you want fly fish for them, then do it, or whatever... At certain times of the year, one method is going to work alot better than another, there's where the problem starts. People get Jealous and petition to get rid of that method or control it! Pinning seems to be the method of choice right now, like big leaders were 15 years ago! Ask the guides how it works in mid March threw Mid April when the River is full of Cold snowmelt! They go back to sight fishing or plugging. That's the way it should be, FREEDOM to fish whatever way you feel is Necessary!
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I went to meetings with 40 guides and business owners! Everybody had there own agenda! Nobody agreed on anything! We just need silly laws off the books, we should be able to do anything we feel is necessary to catch fish in the Salmon River! If you want to float a bobber do it, if you want to plug for them do it , run 10 feet of lead, then do it , try spinners, if you want fly fish for them, then do it, or whatever... At certain times of the year, one method is going to work alot better than another, there's where the problem starts. People get Jealous and petition to get rid of that method or control it! Pinning seems to be the method of choice right now, like big leaders were 15 years ago! Ask the guides how it works in mid March threw Mid April when the River is full of Cold snowmelt! They go back to sight fishing or plugging. That's the way it should be, FREEDOM to fish whatever way you feel is Necessary!
It was interesting to see the seasonal differance in fishing techniques this past season.
During the coldest months bottom bouncing stoneflies and the such seemed to be more effective than bottom bouncing or floating eggs/egg patterns.
Anglers seemed to have better success Fall and Spring floating eggs/egg patterns. Just my personal observation.
I have fished the river only long enough to see the weight restriction in the fly zone. I fish all areas of the river except the "private" area. I guess if I had to look at all the restrictions postively I would say it is a challenge moving around and adjusting tackle and methods in order to be in compliance from zone to zone.
Interesting debate!
Again I am fairly new to the river having only fished it for about five years.
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Well...maybe i shouldn't run for public office. My economic plan might have as many loopholes as Obama's. ;D But i sure spend a lot of money everytime i go to Pulaski.
Just put this in your pipe and smoke it: snagging is illegal and always will be...so really there's no sense in dreaming that's it's going to change. IMO there's too many people fishing the river now anyways. 8)
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and really the lead chip thing isn't humorist a lot of children died and did become ill because of that , thats rather a sad comment
I agree :cookoo:
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;D But i sure spend a lot of money everytime i go to Pulaski.
i agree those $100 lifting tickets are getting old and i dont even keep those nasty old things ;D
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SNAGGER, JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE YANKEES ARE IN FIRST PLACE NOW!!!!!LOL ;D
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what was that perch would you say that a little louder please ;D
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what was that perch would you say that a little louder please ;D
GO YANKEES!!! Feel better now Trap!!!LOL
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i agree those $100 lifting tickets are getting old and i dont even keep those nasty old things ;D
...at Fat Nancy's!
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SNAGGER, JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE YANKEES ARE IN FIRST PLACE NOW!!!!!LOL ;D
I haven't got to watch a RED SOX game in so long, I don't even know why were loosing so much lately! Now you just ruined a perfectly nice rainy day KP! I had forgotten those slimy YANKEES had moved back into first place! I guess I'm going to half to take out my anger on some EYES! ;D
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hey perch , who the hell are the red soxs????????????
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The RED SUCKSWhat do they play Hockey
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Went up to see Snagger and took a walk down with my salmon gear to check the river out before i went walleye fishin on oneida today. Low and behold when i got to the ballpark there were a few FRESH kings in there :o Must have been the rain that brought them up! Ended up losing 6 and landed one 20pound beauty! Can't believe that they are already comin in the river! It was awesome! Tight lines
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That's Crazy! Must be the cooler temps this summer
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Went up to see Snagger and took a walk down with my salmon gear to check the river out before i went walleye fishin on oneida today. Low and behold when i got to the ballpark there were a few FRESH kings in there :o Must have been the rain that brought them up! Ended up losing 6 and landed one 20pound beauty! Can't believe that they are already comin in the river! It was awesome! Tight lines
Did you snag it? J/K That must have been AWESOME!!
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I haven't got to watch a RED SOX game in so long, I don't even know why were loosing so much lately! Now you just ruined a perfectly nice rainy day KP! I had forgotten those slimy YANKEES had moved back into first place! I guess I'm going to half to take out my anger on some EYES! ;D
SORRY I messed up your rainy day Buddy!!! Not too often I get to say the Yanks are in 1st place. The RED SOX are just in a slight slump right now, I'm sure they'll rebound!! GO EASY ON THEM EYES, I heard reports of headless fish washing up on the north shore!LOL ;D
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Now we're TALKIN'!!!
July 23rd and Kings in the River already? It is way too late for an April Fools joke, right?
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Now we're TALKIN'!!!
July 23rd and Kings in the River already? It is way too late for an April Fools joke, right?
It could be a ploy for all of us to stay away from ONIEDA LAKE!! ::)LOL Seems there are alot of fish being caught out there right now. Kings this early sounds great. SNAGGER, does this seem a little early for you? Or is it a norm for this time of year?
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mmmmmmm kings in the river?????? pass me that deadeyes!!!! :laugh:
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Now we're TALKIN'!!!
July 23rd and Kings in the River already? It is way too late for an April Fools joke, right?
Always some strays during cold summers, never seen a run any importance until August 18th or so, they'll be in on the 24th this year! :w00t: Labor day is late this year, that would be a good time to time a posible good run! If you have a cold April the runs are usually late! It was pretty nice in Aptil, so anything is posible this year!
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It could be a ploy for all of us to stay away from ONIEDA LAKE!! ::)LOL Seems there are alot of fish being caught out there right now. Kings this early sounds great. SNAGGER, does this seem a little early for you? Or is it a norm for this time of year?
When late August and all of September rolls around and my friends who troll out about 5 miles over 120 feet, say that they can't find yesterdays fish after a 2 day east wind, I know where they went! ;D
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I agree :cookoo:
I've never been known to be politically correct and always forget we live in a mommy state now.
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How much do you think the over enforcement of the laws play in people not coming. I know when the DEC stepped up there presence in Oswego the numbers of fisherman dropped way off.
Down here the marinas had a problem with the water patrol. They stepped up there presence in an area pulling everyone over... every day... all the time.... and the boaters just left. At the end of the year the marinas were down 40 to 50 thousand dollars in just gas sales because no one boated that section of river anymore. They ended up going to the news media and got them to step off a bit.
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I've never been known to be politically correct and always forget we live in a mommy state now.
if thats so esox why are you taking a liberal stand with the politically correct people??????
see esox the people i know will tell you i'm a devoted flyfisherman! been tossing flys for over 40 years yep got a collection of roods from old thompson split bamboo to sage but the truth is i'm no better then you! or the kid with a zebco or the guy with a 40 dollar snag rod....
and i have to tell you i too went threw that holyer then now true sportsmen stage just like you! it's bs son.... i love seeing a early season trout take a blue wing olive but a kid loves that same trout pulling on a worm ....fact is maybe he loves it more.....
sometimes in the course of life we cloud our mind with rights and wrongs that seem to benfit our way of thinking at the time . and we lose track of whats really important.
so let me leave this for you a real sportsmen is the guy that takes the time to help anyother person enjoy himself, a real sportsmen is willing to look at both sides and work to benfit everyone,
now weather you ever grasp this doesn't matter i wish you the best and a safe and fullfilling season!
now my wish is someday we meet on a small stream share a smile, a story look into each others boxes and have a cup of coffee ....but i wish that with everyone! you,the zebco kid the PA snagger the bullheadfisherman , the challenged fisherman too
god bless ya and god luck :)
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if thats so esox why are you taking a liberal stand with the politically correct people??????
see esox the people i know will tell you i'm a devoted flyfisherman! been tossing flys for over 40 years yep got a collection of roods from old thompson split bamboo to sage but the truth is i'm no better then you! or the kid with a zebco or the guy with a 40 dollar snag rod....
and i have to tell you i too went threw that holyer then now true sportsmen stage just like you! it's bs son.... i love seeing a early season trout take a blue wing olive but a kid loves that same trout pulling on a worm ....fact is maybe he loves it more.....
sometimes in the course of life we cloud our mind with rights and wrongs that seem to benfit our way of thinking at the time . and we lose track of whats really important.
so let me leave this for you a real sportsmen is the guy that takes the time to help anyother person enjoy himself, a real sportsmen is willing to look at both sides and work to benfit everyone,
now weather you ever grasp this doesn't matter i wish you the best and a safe and fullfilling season!
now my wish is someday we meet on a small stream share a smile, a story look into each others boxes and have a cup of coffee ....but i wish that with everyone! you,the zebco kid the PA snagger the bullheadfisherman , the challenged fisherman too
god bless ya and god luck :)
I have no problem with single hook fishing. Lifting, lining, what ever you want to call it. Keep the ones you hook in the mouth release the ones you don't. I just draw the line at weighted treble hooks!! I don't believe that should ever come back. If that lumps me in with the politically correct crowd than so be.
I agree with every thing you say with the exception of me being a liberal of course.
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How much do you think the over enforcement of the laws play in people not coming. I know when the DEC stepped up there presence in Oswego the numbers of fisherman dropped way off.
Down here the marinas had a problem with the water patrol. They stepped up there presence in an area pulling everyone over... every day... all the time.... and the boaters just left. At the end of the year the marinas were down 40 to 50 thousand dollars in just gas sales because no one boated that section of river anymore. They ended up going to the news media and got them to step off a bit.
We lost snagging in 94, we could have had a great lifting River if the wardens weren't forced to spend all there time on this River and Oswego. It was a joke, I new a warden from where I used to live who was forced to come up here and write tickets. He didn't agree with it, but it was his job! When we had Cuomo we had snagging, extra policing came with Pataki! Just a fact! You should have seen the patrols at Sylvan beach Canal this June, 5 patrol boats pulled every boat over every day one weekend! Lucky I don't drink any more, so I became the driver! WE need police, but OVER POLICING HURTS THE MICRO ECONOMY! EVERYBODY lifts salmon one way or another, whether with a traditional fly rod, fly rod/mono, center pinn rod, noodle rod, or a boat rod! Just were forced to PRETEND that were fishing for them! ;D Nice article Trapper! ;D
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Last winter during Steelie season I was stopped and had my gear checked three times by the same guy within a two-hour span. It was weird. I am still wondering what was going on in his head that day.
He seemed pretty upset with me when I said "I am the same guy you checked twice already within 200 yards of here." He still wanted to see my license, gear, etc. I could understand if it was the peak of Salmon Season and there were a few hundred guys on the river- but there were three of us with the whole section to ourselves in March? No tickets of course, we weren't doing anything wrong!
But he sure seemed intent that we were up to no good. I still shake my head in amazement of that guy.
Its great to have enforcement- but sometimes it almost borders on harrassment. I just wanna' fish!
At least for me, I wish they would sometimes realize who is paying their salary and that the true intent iof their agency is to protect the resource... Not generate revenue from tickets or show a 'strong presence' like we are under suspicion at all times. I spent eight years with the National Park Service and the approach to anglers was always the opposite in the Feds. Have fun! Follow the rules! Enjoy your park!
Not "pay up, shape up, and get out..." Pulaski is a goldmine for DEC revenue, it seems...
Too bad the town has to feel the opposite effect as a result.
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now esox i ask you honestly "I have no problem with single hook fishing. Lifting, lining, what ever you want to call it. Keep the ones you hook in the mouth release the ones you don't. I just draw the line at weighted treble hooks!! I don't believe that should ever come back. If that lumps me in with the politically correct crowd than so be.
I agree with every thing you say with the exception of me being a liberal of course."
if you honestly believe this statement then what possiable differance does it make weather i lift the fish or some guy from PA uses a snag hook???????? it's the same thing!!!! which goes back to everything i said why pretent !!!! the fish don't hit other then once in awhile out of aggression. make the money everyone have fun send the salmon home with the people keep the money then we steelhead fish!!!!!!!
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SORRY I messed up your rainy day Buddy!!! Not too often I get to say the Yanks are in 1st place. The RED SOX are just in a slight slump right now, I'm sure they'll rebound!! GO EASY ON THEM EYES, I heard reports of headless fish washing up on the north shore!LOL ;D
YOUR NOT SORRY KP! ;D
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Go yanks! :flex: :flag:
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It was interesting to see the seasonal differance in fishing techniques this past season.
During the coldest months bottom bouncing stoneflies and the such seemed to be more effective than bottom bouncing or floating eggs/egg patterns.
Anglers seemed to have better success Fall and Spring floating eggs/egg patterns. Just my personal observation.
I have fished the river only long enough to see the weight restriction in the fly zone. I fish all areas of the river except the "private" area. I guess if I had to look at all the restrictions postively I would say it is a challenge moving around and adjusting tackle and methods in order to be in compliance from zone to zone.
Interesting debate!
Again I am fairly new to the river having only fished it for about five years.
you seen right fall also is a great time for trout beads sacs and glo bugs later i fish alot of nymphs mainly stone flys in different colors funny not i get alot more browns on yellow stone flys then steelies also pheasant tail nymphs as spring rolls around fish become aggressive and wolly buggers are good and once your fishing fall back ripping a streamer threw holes is fun ya can see steelies chase it!!!!
another classic fly that do very well with all year is a muddler minnow , don't see anyone else using it!!!!
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now esox i ask you honestly "I have no problem with single hook fishing. Lifting, lining, what ever you want to call it. Keep the ones you hook in the mouth release the ones you don't. I just draw the line at weighted treble hooks!! I don't believe that should ever come back. If that lumps me in with the politically correct crowd than so be.
I agree with every thing you say with the exception of me being a liberal of course."
if you honestly believe this statement then what possiable differance does it make weather i lift the fish or some guy from PA uses a snag hook???????? it's the same thing!!!! which goes back to everything i said why pretent !!!! the fish don't hit other then once in awhile out of aggression. make the money everyone have fun send the salmon home with the people keep the money then we steelhead fish!!!!!!!
Hey Trap, Do you use a magnet when you steelhead fish? if so, what weight do you use? LOL ;D
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Go yanks! :flex: :flag:
:w00t: :clapping:HOW BOUT THEM YANKEES!!!!!!
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YOUR NOT SORRY KP! ;D
HONESTLY............................................................................... NO!!!!! ;D
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Oh, thats beautiful. Wish I coulda seen it.... ;D
Sounds like the set-up I have. I bring the heavy gear for the idiots, not the fish. Lord knows you can't really get the full potential out of 65LB braid on a fish, when the hook gap can't exceed 1/2". I think most kings jawbones are thicker. However, it's plenty for everything else on the river ;)
Anchorman
It was a lot of fun! :rotflol:
Especially, when your fishin' with a bunch of friends, that know my 'Rebel Charm'. ;D
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It was a lot of fun! :rotflol:
Especially, when your fishin' with a bunch of friends, that know my 'Rebel Charm'. ;D
HEY SR where you been hiding? Tried to look you up on the fishing hole site and your not on when I log on. Look forward to talking to you guys over there. Take care.
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now esox i ask you honestly "I have no problem with single hook fishing. Lifting, lining, what ever you want to call it. Keep the ones you hook in the mouth release the ones you don't. I just draw the line at weighted treble hooks!! I don't believe that should ever come back. If that lumps me in with the politically correct crowd than so be.
I agree with every thing you say with the exception of me being a liberal of course."
if you honestly believe this statement then what possiable differance does it make weather i lift the fish or some guy from PA uses a snag hook???????? it's the same thing!!!! which goes back to everything i said why pretent !!!! the fish don't hit other then once in awhile out of aggression. make the money everyone have fun send the salmon home with the people keep the money then we steelhead fish!!!!!!!
I don't feel blind snagging is fishing... I my opinion.... There is no sport in it. I think angling should require some skill. I think it sets a bad example as a sportsmen. Some how because its a king Salmon and has a 4 year life cycle some how that warrents it being ripped out with treble hooks. I think that it's flat out a disrespectfull. Snagging is not an excepted form of fishing anywhere else in the country. I know you have no problem with it but I think most sportsmen would disagree.
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wait aminute now esox you said lifting was ok but not snagging it's the same thing ! weather you snag it or lift it the fish didn't hit!!!! you rammed a hook in it! either way it's snagging!
disrespect is snagging and actually believing yourself or convincing others the fish hit! we all know they didn't!!!! either way it's snagging buddy
the only differance is if made right out legal the tickets wouldn't be getting handed out and people would return to the river! i know i'm going to have a 100 jump on me but out of 40 years river fishing i have only had a handful of kings hit!!! coho's yep had them hit kings not many i'm saying why pertent and try to act like selfrightous sportsmen weather someone uses a snag hook or i lift one with a size 10 glo bug it's the same thing SNAGGING!!!!!!!!!!! and just because a fish is hooked in the mouth doesn't mean it's fair hooked i can lift all day and hook everyfish in the mouth and everyone of them is snagged!!!! i just don't bs about it
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p s wonder if my membership in trout unlimited just got revolked ????? oh well the flyfishing section should get more tickets then anywhere in the river anyways :laugh:
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wait aminute now esox you said lifting was ok but not snagging it's the same thing ! weather you snag it or lift it the fish didn't hit!!!! you rammed a hook in it! either way it's snagging!
disrespect is snagging and actually believing yourself or convincing others the fish hit! we all know they didn't!!!! either way it's snagging buddy
the only differance is if made right out legal the tickets wouldn't be getting handed out and people would return to the river! i know i'm going to have a 100 jump on me but out of 40 years river fishing i have only had a handful of kings hit!!! coho's yep had them hit kings not many i'm saying why pertent and try to act like selfrightous sportsmen weather someone uses a snag hook or i lift one with a size 10 glo bug it's the same thing SNAGGING!!!!!!!!!!! and just because a fish is hooked in the mouth doesn't mean it's fair hooked i can lift all day and hook everyfish in the mouth and everyone of them is snagged!!!! i just don't bs about it
Trap, Do you know how many fish I have hooked in the mouth and how many fishing my fishing buddies have legally caught in the mouth. Am I a super hero ???? No !! are you a super hero???? What makes us any different than everyone else. In the mouth means in the mouth. If you are SKILLFULL enough to drift your leader into a fishes mouth the take the d**n thing home. To me that's fishing. Split hairs all you want about the bite no bite thing.
I'll take it a step further why wait till they're in the river then. If they're podded up in the lake outside the river and don't bite. WHY NOT JUST TROLL TREBLE HOOKS AT 10 or 15 MPH. Why bother trying to figure out what lure... or color.... or speed... or drop back... they wont bite.
On the river there are also many variables. Leader length, bait type because some float higher or lower, color, weight reading the d**n current to drift your bait down where it needs to be. That's fishing.... and that's what makes it sporting. It's the same as if the fish did bite.... it's the same process!!!! You want to level the playing Field so it doesn't matter wether your a veteran angler or Joe schmo off the street if you can blindly cast your treble hook out and rip it in your going to have your limit on the bank. It takes no skill and it's not fishing.
To me the fun is in the learning. the fun is going 3 times and catching one fish, then figuring it all out and hooking up like mad. In the end you have a sense of accomplishment! You learned . THATS FISHING !!!!! If it's about meat and a party ...SELL FISH AT TH BAR.
I don't mind sharing the river with anyone who wants to fish or learn to fish for that matter.
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Trap, Do you know how many fish I have hooked in the mouth and how many fishing my fishing buddies have legally caught in the mouth. Am I a super hero ???? No !! are you a super hero???? What makes us any different than everyone else. In the mouth means in the mouth. If you are SKILLFULL enough to drift your leader into a fishes mouth the take the d**n thing home. To me that's fishing. Split hairs all you want about the bite no bite thing.
I'll take it a step further why wait till they're in the river then. If they're podded up in the lake outside the river and don't bite. WHY NOT JUST TROLL TREBLE HOOKS AT 10 or 15 MPH. Why bother trying to figure out what lure... or color.... or speed... or drop back... they wont bite.
On the river there are also many variables. Leader length, bait type because some float higher or lower, color, weight reading the d**n current to drift your bait down where it needs to be. That's fishing.... and that's what makes it sporting. It's the same as if the fish did bite.... it's the same process!!!! You want to level the playing Field so it doesn't matter wether your a veteran angler or Joe schmo off the street if you can blindly cast your treble hook out and rip it in your going to have your limit on the bank. It takes no skill and it's not fishing.
To me the fun is in the learning. the fun is going 3 times and catching one fish, then figuring it all out and hooking up like mad. In the end you have a sense of accomplishment! You learned . THATS FISHING !!!!! If it's about meat and a party ...SELL FISH AT TH BAR.
I don't mind sharing the river with anyone who wants to fish or learn to fish for that matter.
Wait so it sounds to me that you are admitting that you are a lifter am i right? ???
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I'll take it a step further why wait till they're in the river then. If they're podded up in the lake outside the river and don't bite. WHY NOT JUST TROLL TREBLE HOOKS AT 10 or 15 MPH. Why bother trying to figure out what lure... or color.... or speed... or drop back... they wont bite.
Not trying to be a wise guy, but if you anchor your boat at night off the River mouth and throw out egg sac's with floaters in them or a styrafoam marshmellow with an egg sinker, you can have a blast lifting fish out there two, usually too busy, but I've done it! I'm not the only guy out there either! GOOD FUN, MAN THEY FIGHT HARD OUT THERE!
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i dont understand u (esox) see every fish u catch (LIFT) in the mouth, if not i guess your blind snagging also????????
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Not trying to be a wise guy, but if you anchor your boat at night off the River mouth and throw out egg sac's with floaters in them or a styrafoam marshmellow with an egg sinker, you can have a blast lifting fish out there two, usually too busy, but I've done it! I'm not the only guy out there either! GOOD FUN, MAN THEY FIGHT HARD OUT THERE!
I know Snag but what about the days they don't bite ?
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i dont understand u (esox) see every fish u catch (LIFT) in the mouth, if not i guess your blind snagging also????????
No, I drift exactly the same way for salmon as I do for steelhead. Is everyone who drift fishes for steelhead blind snagging? Some times a fish will get hooked somewhere else buy accident.
Are we now in the process of tearing down the drift fisherman to Somehow elevate the blind snagger. Help them along in Feeling better about what they're doing !!!
In all honesty with lighter fishing equipment the chances of me landing a salmon hooked anywhere but in the mouth is slim. TAIL HOOKED SALMON ON 10# LINE !!!! GOOD LUCK
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You know I come here and read this thread every now and then and I never post.
So I said what the hell.
I've fished the Salmon River up and down for going on 20 some odd years.
Anyway of all the trips I have taken to the S.R. which is usually every to every other weekend from sept. to dec. I have never been stopped by a ECO. Not once, I've witnessed them hiking both sides of the stream simultaneosly, pose as fisherman ect... I have never had an experience with one..
I haven't read through this thread thoroughly and I was wondering if you guys touched on the new Fly Zone Regs, I would have to say the people of Altmar cannot be happy about it. Maybe it's just me but it seems like they eliminated the chuck and duck fishing. Who was behind that anyway ? It just seems to me a chunk of revenue was take from the town by doing that, maybe I'm wrong.
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micky i respect you and your opinion because i know your a no bs flyfisherman and we both know the flyfishing section and "most" of the flyfisherman in salmon river are just glorified snaggers that know how to lift!!!!!
my whole thing why lie about it! i rather see a honest flyfishing area and legalize snagging again and allow the money to come back and everyone have a fishery!
end the snagging season nov1 before the best steelhead runs it's simple rules that would be easy to understand by all
will it happen of course not but worth a try
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You know I come here and read this thread every now and then and I never post.
So I said what the hell.
I've fished the Salmon River up and down for going on 20 some odd years.
Anyway of all the trips I have taken to the S.R. which is usually every to every other weekend from sept. to dec. I have never been stopped by a ECO. Not once, I've witnessed them hiking both sides of the stream simultaneosly, pose as fisherman ect... I have never had an experience with one..
I haven't read through this thread thoroughly and I was wondering if you guys touched on the new Fly Zone Regs, I would have to say the people of Altmar cannot be happy about it. Maybe it's just me but it seems like they eliminated the chuck and duck fishing. Who was behind that anyway ? It just seems to me a chunk of revenue was take from the town by doing that, maybe I'm wrong.
Thanks for giving us your input! Flyfishermen can use slinky's and pencil lead or whatever in the rest of the river though! Atleast they have another option! I'm curious if there going to connect the fly zones, been alot of work being done to the river( bank improvements) behind my house with machines! Also a developer selling parcels saying there on the fly zone! The buffer zone around the hatchery! Stay cool fellas! ;D ESOX They weren't biting, just swimming into the line, then you lift! ;D
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Not trying to be a wise guy, but if you anchor your boat at night off the River mouth and throw out egg sac's with floaters in them or a styrafoam marshmellow with an egg sinker, you can have a blast lifting fish out there two, usually too busy, but I've done it! I'm not the only guy out there either! GOOD FUN, MAN THEY FIGHT HARD OUT THERE!
i've done it snagger right by the light house in the inlet to salmon river i used skien and hooked up every 10 or 15 minutes lol funny thing a caught a ton of big catfish a few times
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Trap, Do you know how many fish I have hooked in the mouth and how many fishing my fishing buddies have legally caught in the mouth. Am I a super hero ? No !! are you a super hero? What makes us any different than everyone else. In the mouth means in the mouth.<<<< from esox
from the DEC Snatching means taking fish not attracted by bait or artificial lure with hooks, gangs or similar devices whether or not baited. Snagging, lifting, and single hook snagging are types of snatching.
a fish can be hooked in the mouth and yet still snatched man why lie about it .....your lifting the things!!!!!! when two men are in a elevator and one farts they both know who did it!!!! you and your pals are snatching the fish bud!!!!!
you can call it what ever you want and hey i know i'm peeing some people off but the truth ya got a better chance of hitting the lotto then getting a king in the river to hit! i'm just honest about it esox your under the impression i want to snag myself ....nope i want to see people return with thick wallets so our dec has enough money to support worth while causes like trout stockings and trukey programs !!!!
is lifting fish make ya a hero of course not but niether does lifting them and not admitting thats what your doing! at least be honest man!
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wait aminute now esox you said lifting was ok but not snagging it's the same thing ! weather you snag it or lift it the fish didn't hit!!!! you rammed a hook in it! either way it's snagging!
disrespect is snagging and actually believing yourself or convincing others the fish hit! we all know they didn't!!!! either way it's snagging buddy
the only differance is if made right out legal the tickets wouldn't be getting handed out and people would return to the river! i know i'm going to have a 100 jump on me but out of 40 years river fishing i have only had a handful of kings hit!!! coho's yep had them hit kings not many i'm saying why pertent and try to act like selfrightous sportsmen weather someone uses a snag hook or i lift one with a size 10 glo bug it's the same thing SNAGGING!!!!!!!!!!! and just because a fish is hooked in the mouth doesn't mean it's fair hooked i can lift all day and hook everyfish in the mouth and everyone of them is snagged!!!! i just don't bs about it
Agreed!
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I was curious as to what type of water the DEC has the most intent on anglers catching salmon. Do they stock mostly for boaters out on the lake or for tributary fishing?
I know it is a little off topic.
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I was curious as to what type of water the DEC has the most intent on anglers catching salmon. Do they stock mostly for boaters out on the lake or for tributary fishing?
I know it is a little off topic.
They originally stocked them to controll giant alewife dieoffs that were fouling up all the beaches and hurting tourism dollars back in the very late 60's! They are a tool to keep bait populations in check! but has turned into quite the sport fishery! Elitists don't control the lake, so they have fair regulations, but it seems to be changing slowly threw the back door! Tributary anglers are easy targets compared to boaters!
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You know I come here and read this thread every now and then and I never post.
So I said what the hell.
I've fished the Salmon River up and down for going on 20 some odd years.
Anyway of all the trips I have taken to the S.R. which is usually every to every other weekend from sept. to dec. I have never been stopped by a ECO. Not once, I've witnessed them hiking both sides of the stream simultaneosly, pose as fisherman ect... I have never had an experience with one..
I haven't read through this thread thoroughly and I was wondering if you guys touched on the new Fly Zone Regs, I would have to say the people of Altmar cannot be happy about it. Maybe it's just me but it seems like they eliminated the chuck and duck fishing. Who was behind that anyway ? It just seems to me a chunk of revenue was take from the town by doing that, maybe I'm wrong.
About never being checked, you blend in good! I was in Basic training in Fort Benning,GA. in 90, the strong guys get drilled hard and the fat bodies even harder! Everyone in between blends in! Your not a high hooker or a blatant rule breaker! Somewhere in between probably! I've noticed the better you dress, the less you get checked! Put a carhart on and hook 100 kings & yell alot, you'll be ticketed for something quick! About people in Altmar being upset, Some businesses would like to see the river more empty, so they could cater to higher class citizen. Charge twice the room rate and have half the people! Half the work too! >:(
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Hey Bunker Killer: Go Yankees!!!! Do the Red Sox's and the Met's still have teams????? "The Mayor"
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Hey Bunker Killer: Go Yankees!!!! Do the Red Sox's and the Met's still have teams????? "The Mayor"
You Yankee guys are all the same, only rooting for them when there winning! :'(
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them darn ole yankees :laugh: hey who the hell are the red soxs??????????
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You Yankee guys are all the same, only rooting for them when there winning! :'(
AGREED!!!!! ;D ::)
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Allright, so when do we all want to go snaggin"? Can't wait to get the season started!!!!
I say Thursday,Friday and Saturday we snag, Sunday,monday and Tuesday, the flyfishermen can lift, and Wednesday the driftboats can have the river.
nNw whats not to like about that?
Anchorman
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Allright, so when do we all want to go snaggin"? Can't wait to get the season started!!!!
I say Thursday,Friday and Saturday we snag, Sunday,monday and Tuesday, the flyfishermen can lift, and Wednesday the driftboats can have the river.
nNw whats not to like about that?
Anchorman
I LIKE IT!, sort of like the 80's, run the water all week. Drop it Friday night to nothing and trap all the salmon in the holes! Then have a big BLOODBATH, make TONS of money and do it all over again the next weekend! That's when it was a ZOO! River would run RED on sundays! ;D
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them darn ole yankees :laugh: hey who the hell are the red soxs??????????
Hey now watch your tone....
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are there any carp ??????????
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i guess with the yankees in 1st ya can buy red soxs hats pretty cheap huh???? ......just saying :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Snagger, are there anymore fresh kingz up where i gottum the other day!
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Snagger, are there anymore fresh kingz up where i gottum the other day!
When I was in Pulaski, I did a drive by with my Polarizers on and didn't see anything around. Could see good too! The fish in Altmar have shifted around too after the last water release!
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Oh ok now trap gave me an idea instead of snagging or lifting salmon this year lets all get bowfishing equipment and shoot em up.....as many salmon as you can shoot as fast as you can pull your bow back.....salmon for everyone food banks and homeless shelters will have meat for months :thumbup_smilie: :w00t: cmon just one year :rotflol:
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Oh ok now trap gave me an idea instead of snagging or lifting salmon this year lets all get bowfishing equipment and shoot em up.....as many salmon as you can shoot as fast as you can pull your bow back.....salmon for everyone food banks and homeless shelters will have meat for months :thumbup_smilie: :w00t: cmon just one year :rotflol:
My Buddy chris, who's a diehard bowhunter has been tempted over the years! I think it's the rocks the arrow will hit if you miss is what keeps him from popping one at Ellis!
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boy i know it sure would be tempting they are just such easy targets.....now im against snagging and lifting and all for bowfishin em :laugh: i think that would make the guys who think snaggin/lifitin takes no skill happy and i would have way more fish.....id rig something up so the arrow is attached to a fishin pole so i could fight em after i shot em ;D
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i guess with the yankees in 1st ya can buy red soxs hats pretty cheap huh???? ......just saying :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Well, go out and buy me a couple then! I like blue with red letters and red with white letters! Thanks trap! You know what my girlfriend from Boston got me once, Yankee toilet paper! :clapping:
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i am a yankees fan but no joking the best part of being a yankees or bostons fan is the rivalry! i think it's what kept baseball going here! ............26 rings 26 rings ....oh sorry this was ment to be a nice post :D
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DIEHARD YANKEES FAN!!!!!!!! ;D
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What is the earliest anyone has ever had dependable success with Browns and Steelhead. Not Skamanians or Atlantics?
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The landlockers on Champlain usually start running as soon as the Yanks clinch the pennant...
Should be sometime around the end of August or early Setember this season :o
The past few years the Yanks looked so rough that the Salmon all ran on the Red Sox (VT) side of the lake!
Last year they were last seen running south towards Tampa Bay... Weird...
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THAT WAS PRETTY FUNNY JIMMY! Hey they inducted my favorite player of all time today in cooperstown! Jim Rice, I wore his number 14 in little league back in the day! Hey Jason browns are always mixed in with the early Salmon in late August and September! Lately, alot of early steelies too! Used to half to wait til october for them!
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hall of fame don't mean nothing till they let in pete rose
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I think you guys need to start your own yankees vs. red sox thread :laugh: not a baseball fan i like football more by the way GO COWBOYS!! ;D
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BOW FISHING SALMON The best idea I have heard in a while. Gotta try it!
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BOW FISHING SALMON The best idea I have heard in a while. Gotta try it!
I hope you bow hunt better than you fish! Gonna need alot of arrows! :w00t: Cowboys, oh my god, Bill's fan here! Hey trap that is a travesty, he never bet against his own team, did he!
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Yea well I dont see you rushing to show me that beaten on the river that you have talked about for 2 years. Someone is a little nervous and rusty. Thats ok I beleive you may have been alright back in the day... LOL
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Yea well I dont see you rushing to show me that beaten on the river that you have talked about for 2 years. Someone is a little nervous and rusty. Thats ok I beleive you may have been alright back in the day... LOL
I fished almost every day last November for steelhead, where were you in a tree? ;D No time for winter steel, just ice fishing these days! Hooked on big jumbo's and Eyes!
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cowboys????????? bills fan here too ya ain't at a game if your not in a white out :)
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fishinaddct ya can come and fish with me anytime .....usaully tagged out of bow stamps in oct anyways :)
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Yup ypu heard me right COWBOYS ;D.......i usually wait to tag out with the bow....gotta wait til november to hunt the rut and i like blackpowder huntin too....im sure if we had a winter steelhead run up the hudson it would be a tough decision though ;D
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Yup ypu heard me right COWBOYS ;D.......i usually wait to tag out with the bow....gotta wait til november to hunt the rut and i like blackpowder huntin too....im sure if we had a winter steelhead run up the hudson it would be a tough decision though ;D
ok so ya got funny taste in football ya still hunt and fish ya can't be all bad!!!!! lollllllll but do ya ever chase the stripers ? i never fished the hudson for them but have the salt!!!!! bow season northern tier upons sept 29.... black powder opens the 7th or around there ..... and your not tagged out in oct????????? ....... ;D i can see we have to help you out
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I can help out with filling tags too ;D - I'm tagged out the first week almost every year.....almost....sometimes I still forget my form and function and one gets away
by the way....is there any difference, being a resident of NY, between rooting for the Cowboys or the Red Sox....neither of them are hometown teams and they are mostly bandwagon teams.....unless you grew up with them, then it's kinda okay (just as long as you secretly root for the Bills as well)
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niagra you are totally right and may i point out the bills are the only new york football team that plays in new york!!!!!!!! i know them new jersy gaint's play tough but............. only place ya can see a nfl game in new york is buffalo :))
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Since this is a salmon thread, here's my salmon report- not many in the River yet! I've liked the RedSox since the mid 70's, my little league team was called the fall creek yankees and everyone was a yankees fan! I couldn't stand it! Watched a red sox- yankees series, when the red sox had the Yaz, Carlton Fisk, Fred Lynn and Jim Rice! Have been a Red Sox fan ever since! GO BILLS! I don't live in NY City!
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well ok snagger i'll let ya go i guess ya ain't a HALF bad guy
:D :D :laugh: :laugh:
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I suppose we could all not root for the yanks since they practically play in a different country :o
my salmon report would be on the Niagara River...but they aren't there until next month.....that's when my hand-tied alewife jigs come into play. Nothing like hooking a silver screamer in August on a 12 foot noodle rod....they are very very angry :cursing: and I love it :w00t: :thumbup_smilie: :w00t:
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ok so ya got funny taste in football ya still hunt and fish ya can't be all bad!!!!! lollllllll but do ya ever chase the stripers ? i never fished the hudson for them but have the salt!!!!! bow season northern tier upons sept 29.... black powder opens the 7th or around there ..... and your not tagged out in oct????????? ....... ;D i can see we have to help you out
Im southern tier where i live so i gotta wait til october 17th i believe it is this year.....and blackpowder isnt til december.....plus i dont like shooting does early witht the bow that way i can definitely have a tag for blackpowder.....always been a cowboy fan along with the whole family.....fished stripers a lot but not too much these last couple of yrs....(https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi271.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fjj151%2FJJS0519%2F13.jpg&hash=62ff06297329587a89fc38f53cb22b42) heres my first and biggest one 45" with a huge gut....i forgot what someone said the estimated weight was but heres a pic of him a few months later (https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi271.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fjj151%2FJJS0519%2Fsecuredownload4.jpg&hash=71251fa110b0ab7d3400084fb2c3bcc8) definitely not a great mount but oh well ;D
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Im southern tier where i live so i gotta wait til october 17th i believe it is this year.....and blackpowder isnt til december.....plus i dont like shooting does early witht the bow that way i can definitely have a tag for blackpowder.....always been a cowboy fan along with the whole family.....fished stripers a lot but not too much these last couple of yrs....(https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi271.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fjj151%2FJJS0519%2F13.jpg&hash=62ff06297329587a89fc38f53cb22b42) heres my first and biggest one 45" with a huge gut....i forgot what someone said the estimated weight was but heres a pic of him a few months later (https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi271.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fjj151%2FJJS0519%2Fsecuredownload4.jpg&hash=71251fa110b0ab7d3400084fb2c3bcc8) definitely not a great mount but oh well ;D
REALLY NICE STRIPER BUD! The fish would probaly look a bit better if you center it in the wall and not so much in the corner! If it's your only mount, you could try dressing it up a little bit with a barn board or strange piece of drift wood you find some where! I've got a big fat salmon from years ago that the taxidermist didn't do such a great job on(your fish looks fine) I put 2 barn boards criss crossed I made my self by breaking it on 45 degree angles! And shot full of shot gun holes! Crossed 2 old rods under it too and it looks pretty Cool! You've got some nice fish for your age bud! ;D
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I like the driftwood idea like this 16 inch brown i got out of a stream that i can jump across when i was 5 years old this mount was done by the same guy i'll let you guys be the judge of how it came out (a little dusty)
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Heres a better look at the striper mount
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SOS They don't look to bad, the only thing I don't like about the brown is that black paint near it's mouth. Striper looks pretty good! You can have him touch them up, you paid good money for them, if your not satisfied! That's what matters, whether you like them! You should see some of my older ones! Hey Niagarajiggin that sounds like a riot jigging up kings on a noodle rod!
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Hey Trapper, didn't want to clog the other guys thread with my BS! That's the most important thing about winter steelheading, keeping your rod/reel the same temp as the outside air temp. I put pvc pipes in my snowbanks near the entrance for the lodgers to use during the winter! They come back for lunch and don't bring there rods inside, they put them in the rod holders in the snow! If you drive up, be careful not to get your reel in contact with snow if the reel is too warm, it will freeze later! Then you need a new reel in your pocket or your done! Never tried the wax trap, just put all of my guides under water for about 10-15 seconds if fishing Altmar area in winter, then slap the rod on the water! Won't work if theres slush flows/anchor ice like down river or the Sandies though! Good tip Trap!
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Ya maybe down the road when i get my own house and stuff i'll get all my mounts touched up....that brown mount is 12 years old and still goin strong though
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nice fish bro
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thanks this year im gonna come out you guys way for some winter steelies never done it before so maybe i can check one of those off my list of fish to catch ;D
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i'll get ya hooked up seven it's alot of fun
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i'll get ya hooked up seven it's alot of fun
thats the under statement of the year, its a friggen riot! dont do it if your not ready to spend all your extra money on more gear because your so hooked
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i wouldn't go that far ! but it is fun
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thats the under statement of the year, its a friggen riot! dont do it if your not ready to spend all your extra money on more gear because your so hooked
OH YA! Everybody goes threw that can't get enough steelies stage, took me 20 years for the enitial shock to wear down! Now I can't get enough waldo's, but I can sneek across the street any time I feel like it! You'll be HOOKED SOS! :w00t: Good time to try it, going through great cycles right now! So easy even the Geico man can do it!
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with me it's everyfish from steelies to bluegills i just can't catch enough and snag i have caught crappies in the river down by port ontario :)
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:w00t: Good time to try it, going through great cycles right now! So easy even the Geico man can do it!
Trapper and Snagger
Do the fish seem to go in cycles? All salmonoids or just steelies? And if so how long does a cycle last.
I am curious because me and a buddy were just talking last night about fish cycles in the fingerlakes (pike).
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the main cycle involves the stock truck!!!!! and the water contions ......nice thing if salmon river is slow jump to oswego or little sandy!!!! my favorite time in salmon river is just after they release water and it blows the ice out i think it's a diner bell stirring up the fish ;D ....always keep in mind steelies are just big trout and if you have ever drifted worms for trout in a stream your already ahead of the game , now just be ready to swith up till you find what they want that day ;D
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Trapper and Snagger
Do the fish seem to go in cycles? All salmonoids or just steelies? And if so how long does a cycle last.
I am curious because me and a buddy were just talking last night about fish cycles in the fingerlakes (pike).
Hard to explain why we go through good or bad cycles. I remember back in 1999-2000, that year was particularly bad! I looked up stocking for the Salmon River for 4 years before that and the numbers were way down, compared to other years! We also have very good natural reproduction in the Salmon River, been bumper crops lately, no flooding for 4 springs really! Bait populations in the broad lake and other factors! Some are jumping on the one fish limit bandwagon we've had for a couple of years! The Sandies have had that for 8 years or better, there still the same, just the run last longer! Don't worry, if Brown trout get established that will bring the steelies in check, competing for the same food as juveniles!
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bait fish in lake stockings spring run off who knows 99 2000 were bad years another very good place although known for browns but some excellent steelies to be had is oak orchard.... i know if one factor is effecting a trib i look elsewhere just like ice fishing sometimes moving is the key.... to be honest going threw my book i can honestly say i hook up more in oswego then salmon river! (most times) just hard to flyfish there,i can't say i have a favorite piece of water , where ever i can hook up. right now although i havn't been in over a week anyone interested should get to oswego nothing better then a summer run of brown trout ,drifting in a tee shirt is a great thing :) larry at the salmon shop can tell you exactly where to go i was above the power house but i seen browns jumping off the high wall.... good luck man and lets hear "FISH ONNNNNNNNN" again
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Whats a good set-up to fish steelies.....i will be using spinning gear so got any good tips for what #test hook size, and maybe a good jig/lure to try?? thanks
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Whats a good set-up to fish steelies.....i will be using spinning gear so got any good tips for what #test hook size, and maybe a good jig/lure to try?? thanks
Make sure you have a good smooth drag on your reel.
For Steelies run 10 lbs main line with 6 lbs leader. Bottom bounce egg patterns/stoneflies/wooly buggers/sacs, then after late Oct...buy some floats and run some beads, sacs and jigs.
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ya want a noodle rod a good reel with a smooth drag set light i use a 8 lb main line and 6 lb leader but switch to 4 pound later in season early in season eggs egg patterens glo bugs nymphs beads most my flies are on size 10's and 12's i'm not much on floats they work well but i don't fish them alot , for weight i perfer parchute cord with buck shot . i like a slip weight system good glasses and corkers on your waders...my rod i perfer a 10 or 10 and a half footer alot becomes personal preferances
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You guys are givin me the itch and i never even fished for em yet whens the best time to come out for em?
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well you can start getting them anytime but in the fall my best time has been mid nov on! the best time is spring fall backs ;D
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thanks fort the info.... i just went to sports authority to look around and i think i had a noodle rod in my hand it was 9 foot i think and really flexible it was only 20$ it was for panfish i think it was called a slab spanker.....junk probably but would that work ok?? I know the season is a good amount of time away but just full of questions and i am sure i will come up with some more once the season comes i look forward to hooking into one of these this year and all the help/info you guys are willing to give i am willing to take in....thanks for all the help from the local pros ;) ;D
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thanks fort the info.... i just went to sports authority to look around and i think i had a noodle rod in my hand it was 9 foot i think and really flexible it was only 20$ it was for panfish i think it was called a slab spanker.....junk probably but would that work ok?? I know the season is a good amount of time away but just full of questions and i am sure i will come up with some more once the season comes i look forward to hooking into one of these this year and all the help/info you guys are willing to give i am willing to take in....thanks for all the help from the local pros ;) ;D
Hey SOS, don't go out and maybe buy the wrong thing! Everything for steelies is kind of a specialty thing. You let me know when you want to come up, I'll let you use my set up, fish a couple days with it and all the little things that we use! Then figure out what you really want, that way you don't waste any money! My favorite time for steelies is last week of October, first 2 weeks of November, then it stays good through the winter! When I took up ice fishing, I bought a bunch of crap I'll never use, I should have Ice fished a little first! JUST LET ME KNOW BUD!
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Ok sounds good my cousins grandfather has a camp near pulaski (not sure how far that is from you) my cousin comes out there and fishes the loc derby in august every year so he knows the area way better than i do....we were talkin about coming out and deer hunting that camp this year so when we come out to hunt we will have to hit the river for steelies too if its as good as everyone says it is we wont be doing much huntin ;D
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Ok sounds good my cousins grandfather has a camp near pulaski (not sure how far that is from you) my cousin comes out there and fishes the loc derby in august every year so he knows the area way better than i do....we were talkin about coming out and deer hunting that camp this year so when we come out to hunt we will have to hit the river for steelies too if its as good as everyone says it is we wont be doing much huntin ;D
Just remind me later SOS, gets pretty busy in my life in September-October! Pulaski is only 7 miles down River from me!
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hey snagger thats a nice thing man and sos if ya want someone to go with give me a pm ....hey snagger just wondering i'm just learning to drive want to set me up with your truck a few days just till i get the hang of it :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:.....sorry bro seriously that was a good thing ya offered sos
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Hey SOS, don't go out and maybe buy the wrong thing! Everything for steelies is kind of a specialty thing. You let me know when you want to come up, I'll let you use my set up, fish a couple days with it and all the little things that we use! Then figure out what you really want, that way you don't waste any money! My favorite time for steelies is last week of October, first 2 weeks of November, then it stays good through the winter! When I took up ice fishing, I bought a bunch of crap I'll never use, I should have Ice fished a little first! JUST LET ME KNOW BUD!
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Yes thats quite nice i would have been going in not having a clue on what to use or how to fish em so thanks again and i'll send ya a pm once we get closer to the season and i know when we are coming out there....trap ill send ya a pm too i can never get enough help/tips thanks
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Yes thats quite nice i would have been going in not having a clue on what to use or how to fish em so thanks again and i'll send ya a pm once we get closer to the season and i know when we are coming out there....trap ill send ya a pm too i can never get enough help/tips thanks
If you really want to learn and catch fish...book a trip with GOTTUM
www.salmonriverguide.com
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hey snagger thats a nice thing man and sos if ya want someone to go with give me a pm ....hey snagger just wondering i'm just learning to drive want to set me up with your truck a few days just till i get the hang of it :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:.....sorry bro seriously that was a good thing ya offered sos
That's funny right there Trap!!! A stand out guy you are SNAGGER to offer that to S.O.S!! ;D
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Fished Salmon River today from around noon till 6pm. Saw many nice Steelies or Atlantics at the fish hatchery and around the Altmar bridge. I did not have any success today but it's nice to have seen quality sized fish. The weather today was a nice change from all the rain.
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cool jason i was on a secret brown attack in a secret river about 30 miles south on rt 104!!!!! i can't tell you where :laugh:
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If you really want to learn and catch fish...book a trip with GOTTUM
www.salmonriverguide.com
i considered that as well i'll have to take a look at the site and check out prices thanks
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cool jason i was on a secret brown attack in a secret river about 30 miles south on rt 104!!!!! i can't tell you where :laugh:
Hey TRAP get out of Wine Creek! ;D Hey SOS, a guide is another option, I only offered some free help because I know your only 17 years old! It will cost enough for gas just to get here! If you need any help, just let me know bud!
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wine creek?????? wheres that????? ;D
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Hey SOS, Guides are always good for getting knowledge of an area and local tactics from in a short amount of time. But at your age id say save your money and take snaggers advice. Ive known and fished with him for years and he would never steer you wrong. Most of the time there are a few vetran fisherman at his place that would love to show a young fisherman as yourself the ropes. I hope to be up several times over the next few mounthes, as well as the winter and you'd be more than welcome to come along with my son and I if are trips lap eachother. I'm no vet but i do get my fare share.
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hey come the end of sept. he could always use one of our rods and learn the ropes to lifting some big old kings. i finally figured out that deep hole under the bridge in town last year and it is a good one
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Hey SOS looks like your making a bunch of fishin buddies already! As young as you are, you will figure the Salmon River out 5 times faster than most of us did! Then you'll be getting your own guide Pinn! :w00t:
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Thanks to everyone for being so generous i know me and my cousin, my dad and my grandfather are coming out to the river for kings the first week in october sometime....i talked to my cuz yesterday and we will probably be coming out for steelies and deer sometime during november or december.....i will be sending some pms out once we get ready to come out ;) thanks again
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hey sos what side of salmon river you hunting???? the northern side is the northerntier ....about 5 miles up rt 3 is lakeview well worth bow and blackpowder hunting ;D you better pm me we need to talk time for you to join the salmon steelhead perch walleye crappie deer turkey and rabbit hunters club !!!! ;D
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hey sos what side of salmon river you hunting???? the northern side is the northerntier ....about 5 miles up rt 3 is lakeview well worth bow and blackpowder hunting ;D you better pm me we need to talk time for you to join the salmon steelhead perch walleye crappie deer turkey and rabbit hunters club !!!! ;D
Don't forget crappie fishing Trap, Better warn the boy that he is going to need lots of bobbers :w00t:
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Better warn the boy that he is going to need lots of bobbers :w00t:
ok, so whats with all the "gonna need lots of bobbers" comments? i've seen them on multiple threads
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it's a personal joke between me and kp and toad harbour :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: we killer the strugeons there!!!!! on tube jigs
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There aren't no sturgeons in there! ::) I think we need to trim back some of those willow tree branches this fall Trap!!! :w00t: WE NEED TO GO FISHING, WORKING STINKS, NEVER A DAY OFF!!! Please don't send me to the grumpy old boat page!! ;D
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Hey KP & Trap, tonight it was flat on Oneida and those sturgeons flopping around started sounding more and more like OGGO POGGO'S. I think there gathering for there anual migration to the Salmon River! ;D Hey trap, I'm not sure but I think I saw Rocky on one of the buoys tonight, WOW has he gotten big! Still got that jigging rap in him too! ;D
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Hey bobber down, I hope to see some good reports from you this weekend. It wouldn't be hard to twist my arm to be there next weekend
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OGGO POGGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i here that a big school of snake heads along with oggo poggo has been harrasing the stergions on oneida lake causing then to jump into the air to escape!!!!!! can we snag oggo's and snake heads????????
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can we snag oggo's and snake heads????????
No not legally but im sure you can probably get away with lifting em if ya do it right :w00t:
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long as the hook is in the mouth and i'm wearing a trout unlimited patch on my vest :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
snagger the kids learning and we havn't even takin him out yet :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Anybody have a favorite type, size and brand of hook for egg sacs?
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What do you think of pink worms for Steelheads and Browns on the salmon river?
I have tried them periodically for a few years. I don't seem to have any better luck with them than other stuff.
I do however see a number of guides with clients using them under floats. Maybe it's an easier technique for their clients?
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i use the 4 inch gulp pink worm i got them from larrys salmon shop in oswego worked real well
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What do you think of pink worms for Steelheads and Browns on the salmon river?
I have tried them periodically for a few years. I don't seem to have any better luck with them than other stuff.
I do however see a number of guides with clients using them under floats. Maybe it's an easier technique for their clients?
Pink worms can be the Bomb under floats, especially after the steelhead have sat for weeks in high cold water in December only for the water to finally recede in early January through February! Steelhead come in the Rivers very healthy and then gorge on salmon eggs! If you have an extended high water period, they use up alot of energy and need to feed again! Low water Decembers & winters, they tend to be more finicky and lock jawed! My favorite hooks are the old 80200BR caddis by mustad, but they don't make them any more! Diachi makes a great caddis hook( the 1120, not 1130 to thin of wire, breaks even in winter), also Gami makes a good egg hook( octopus black nickel, not the wide gap, breaks from too thin of steel) Another favorite is the Blackbird (but only the thin steel version, have to look at every pack, some have a weird bend, dull point and fat steel) If your hooking steelies in warm water before early November in the rapids down river, then just the cheap 92625 #6's will be fine! I use 92625's till early November, switch to Diachi's(#10's-#12's) on bottom, Gami's/blackbirds(#6's-#8's) under floats for the winter and back to new mustad version of 80200br(#8's) under floats then 92625 #6's for bottom in April! Now that mustads started having there hooks made in CHINA 3 years ago, we get bad batches all the time, probably same reason black birds are so inconsistent! VMC'S are OK, Don't much like Owners! Most important is the hook is off set! (92625's have a dull point, which keeps from foul hooking as many steelies at the tail end of the salmon run!)
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I got a couple more questions for you guys....
When you fish for steelheads do you sight fish for em?
How deep is the water that they are usually caught in?
Thanks to anyone who answers these for me.
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I got a couple more questions for you guys....
When you fish for steelheads do you sight fish for em?
How deep is the water that they are usually caught in?
Thanks to anyone who answers these for me.
Don't usually sight fish for steelies, they move quick and hold in water that has bubbles over them down River and go to deeper runs(3-6 feet) up river. Plus low light conditions during Fall and Winter. Unless theres drought conditions or a big run is occurring! In the late Winter and Spring when there spawning you can sight fish for them in a couple feet of water or less!
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Hey just thought of something else SOS for your November trip! Some of my steelhead regulars that stay here sometimes tag along with me in the evenings when I go down to Oneida for EYES! All depends on weather conditions! Also upper River- October through 2nd week of November- 6lb. line, after that 4lb. all winter, then 6-8lb. in april!
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I can hardly wait for those Nov. eyes ! Nov. is great Steelies during the day and eyes at night .
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Thanks to all on the information from you guys. Now I have some hooks to look for tomorrow when I am up there! I already have every brand of Pink and other colored worms and sizes so I will have to try them out some more this year.
Snagger - I printed off the hook info and water info. Definately will make a differance!
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Hey KP & Trap, tonight it was flat on Oneida and those sturgeons flopping around started sounding more and more like OGGO POGGO'S. I think there gathering for there anual migration to the Salmon River! ;D Hey trap, I'm not sure but I think I saw Rocky on one of the buoys tonight, WOW has he gotten big! Still got that jigging rap in him too! ;D
SNAGGER, Sounds as though you might want to carry a rifle in your boat for ROCKY, I'ts the only way your gonna get that jiggin' Rap back!!! :w00t: Trapper wants a peice of him before you finish him off!!!!! ;D How do we cook a OGGO POGGO?
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Thanks snag we went on 2 charters to oneida with Capt. Ray Brown and we caught a ton of eyes both times it was awesome....we caught them on bucktail jigs tipped with worms and we went in june both times though....other than those couple of times i never been out on the lake again..
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Hey guys lets keep the walleye talk over on the diehards thread! :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :clapping: :whistling: JK-Deadeyez
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Hey guys lets keep the walleye talk over on the diehards thread! :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :clapping: :whistling: JK-Deadeyez
See how I snuck that WALLEYE HIJACKING IN THERE DEADEYEZ! ;D What's up WIRESTONE, give me a call soon! HEY KP I heard there like poor man's Shrimp!
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See how I snuck that WALLEYE HIJACKING IN THERE DEADEYEZ! ;D What's up WIRESTONE, give me a call soon! HEY KP I heard there like poor man's Shrimp!
MMMMMMMMMMMMM.... OGGO POGGO!!!!! ;D
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BOTTOM OF THE7th RED SOX 16 ORIOLES 9 Looks like a win for the team SNAGGER
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not long boys the yankees will have another ring and the fish will be in the river ;D
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BOTTOM OF THE7th RED SOX 16 ORIOLES 9 Looks like a win for the team SNAGGER
I watched Melkey get the cycle on encore last night, haven't checked stats, got to be close now! I checked the Big Res. the other day, it was 2 feet down from high water mark. Even with all this rain, that's where it supposed to be on an average year!
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Hey SNAGGER, stop harvesting only the heads of fish and put some fillets aside for me. I'm getting itchy for a road trip soon!
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Hey SNAGGER, stop harvesting only the heads of fish and put some fillets aside for me. I'm getting itchy for a road trip soon!
I sorted through the walleyes and put a side, 2 quart bags full of 16 inch walleye fillets! Plus got a quart bag full of 12 inch perch fillets for you when you come up! got a good stock pile for our Labor Day Cookout too! I ate the rest! mmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!! :w00t:
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I sorted through the walleyes and put a side, 2 quart bags full of 16 inch walleye fillets! Plus got a quart bag full of 12 inch perch fillets for you when you come up! got a good stock pile for our Labor Day Cookout too! I ate the rest! mmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!! :w00t:
Thanks SNAGGER, I'll have to go dig some clams to bring up for that cookout.
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Thanks SNAGGER, I'll have to go dig some clams to bring up for that cookout.
CAN'T WAIT! Those last ones were good! Stay out of those private seeded clam beds! >:(
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CAN'T WAIT! Those last ones were good! Stay out of those private seeded clam beds! >:(
The private areas hold the tastiest clams! P.S. i did find bozo the clowns post
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not long boys the yankees will have another ring and the fish will be in the river ;D
HEY TRAP, How many rings will it be this year!???????? :w00t:Fish in the river will be an end to a perfect season!!!!
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Hey KP it aint over til it's over, Just getting good now! ;D
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Hey SNAGGER, I might have to stop and fish Lake George on the way up. I see theres allot to view there this year.
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RED SOX are on a pretty good roll right now, I told you not to rule them out!! It will be interesting down the stretch. YANKEES all the way!!!!! ;D I heard that Micheal Vick might be pitching for RED SOX soon!!!!!!!!!!!:rotflol: :w00t: :rotflol: :w00t:
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When did I ever count out the SOX, I would route for them if they were in dead last place, I aint like you Yankee fans who JUMP SHIP when they lose 2 games! :cookoo:
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I know you didn't count them out, When they were on the skid down last week you were going to vent your anger on some eyes. Venting certainly helped I think!!! All in fun Buddy!!! ;D
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I know you didn't count them out, When they were on the skid down last week you were going to vent your anger on some eyes. Venting certainly helped I think!!! All in fun Buddy!!! ;D
When are you and trap going to come over to Oneida and fish with me. I can only fish the rest of this week, then I'm done til November with eyes/perch. ;D
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When are you and trap going to come over to Oneida and fish with me. I can only fish the rest of this week, then I'm done til November with eyes/perch. ;D
ARE you going to show me your honey hole for perch? ;D
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ARE you going to show me your honey hole for perch? ;D
I can't find them again, I looked for 3 hours last 2 nights, no luck. I always look til 7pm then bass, at 8:15 switch to eyes! getting ready to head down now!
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Sunday or monday paper showed that nice perch being caught at north bay??? Any thoughts?
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TRAP, Where are you? SNAGGER wants to fish this week!!!
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Sunday or monday paper showed that nice perch being caught at north bay??? Any thoughts?
I heard the same thing from someone up here! The area I've been fishing has been too consistant to wander too much KP! also ended up with 2.2 inches of rain yesterday and when I drove over the River it was running at about 1,000 cfs and way off colored at the Altmar Bridge! When it settles down in a couple of days, the Hatchery will probably have it's first Kings of the Season!
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hey snagger, have their been any atlantics or skamanias in the river this summer? i gotta feeling theirs going to be some good early runs of kings this year. i can remember back in the late 80's and early 90's having great runs before i went back to school. Havent seen many early runs in the last 10-15 years
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hey snagger, have their been any atlantics or skamanias in the river this summer? i gotta feeling theirs going to be some good early runs of kings this year. i can remember back in the late 80's and early 90's having great runs before i went back to school. Havent seen many early runs in the last 10-15 years
As a hobby, I study weather patterns. In my weather notes that lapse my fishing notes since since 84, I've noticed if you have a warmer than normal late March, April and early May, you usually see runs with good numbers very early on in Late August through early September!! It seems the faster the lakewarms up in spring has something to do with them coming into the Rivers early. Whether the summer is cool or Hot! If anyone remembers the lake was ABOLUTELY ON FIRE IN LATE MARCH AND APRIL for Browns because of slightly above normal temps, even though we had a very long and cold winter! I was off the Ice 2 weeks earlier than the year before! We had 1 cold snap during April, but our only 90 degree day this year occurred on April 27th. We only had 1 cold snap in May also, since then, it's like May never ended! In that cold year of 92 the runs weren't really that early on the Salmon River, just fluke runs during the summer in Oswego! Only time will tell, I think once August 21st,22nd is here, keep a close eye on the River, could be mulitple runs through mid September! MONSTER August runs I've fished were 86,87,90,94,98,99,04- all occurred between August 22nd through August 26th or so! Most of those summers were hot & dry in August! That's why I pay attention to when the lake gets started!
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Oh also as this fishery gets older and older. There seems to be more minor early runs and late runs every year. The salmon & Steelhead runs are much more spread out now than they used to be! This is from decades of early fish spawning with early fish and late spawners doing the same, sort of like genetilly creating there own sub species! Like Skamanian steelhead, there named for the Skamania River(which has summer run strains) in Washington State! Some of the Rivers out there are hundreds of miles long, so they need to come in much earlier! I think it's just fun trying to predict runs, right or wrong!
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snagger i have that in my journals too and reason i believe it triggers that final biologcal clock ....starts the count down sort of !!!! just my opinion here no proof
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As a hobby, I study weather patterns. In my weather notes that lapse my fishing notes since since 84, I've noticed if you have a warmer than normal late March, April and early May, you usually see runs with good numbers very early on in Late August through early September!! It seems the faster the lakewarms up in spring has something to do with them coming into the Rivers early. Whether the summer is cool or Hot! If anyone remembers the lake was ABOLUTELY ON FIRE IN LATE MARCH AND APRIL for Browns because of slightly above normal temps, even though we had a very long and cold winter! I was off the Ice 2 weeks earlier than the year before! We had 1 cold snap during April, but our only 90 degree day this year occurred on April 27Th. We only had 1 cold snap in May also, since then, it's like May never ended! In that cold year of 92 the runs weren't really that early on the Salmon River, just fluke runs during the summer in Oswego! Only time will tell, I think once August 21st,22nd is here, keep a close eye on the River, could be mulitple runs through mid September! MONSTER August runs I've fished were 90,94,98,99,05- all occurred between August 22nd through August 26th or so! Most of those summers were very hot/dry in August! That's why I pay attention to when the lake gets started!
the weather patterns are strange all over the northeast this year,I just marked my calender for August 5Th as the first day of summer @ 94 degres
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your second post i disagree with snagger reason 1978 we had kings in the river (catchable numbers) in second week in jan!!!!! they were stacked where the old salmon wier was in pulaski!!!!!!! and threw out the rest of the river
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snagger i have that in my journals too and reason i believe it triggers that final biologcal clock ....starts the count down sort of !!!! just my opinion here no proof
I have always believed that the earlier the salmon get on the feed bag, the faster they reach maturity! But now with so many naturally reproduced fish everywhere, there seems to be little spurts all the time! I try to predict the MONSTER RUNS! Back in the 80's my Mom threw out some of my journals, so I have holes in them Trap!
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that sucks snagger but i think basicly your on track about a warm spring and quicker maturity ....i agree with that
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your second post i disagree with snagger reason 1978 we had kings in the river (catchable numbers) in second week in jan!!!!! they were stacked where the old salmon wier was in pulaski!!!!!!! and threw out the rest of the river
In 1994 there was a MONSTER run in August, then a big hole in the run during late September! When the main run finally arrived, I was hooking 100+ giant females a day at the ball park and nobody here with a foot of snow on the gound in November! Good egg money back then! Hey trap my theory on late and early runs is from years of late & early spawners creating a sort of sub spiecies! In 78, the fishery was only 9 years old and no regulated flows!
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Trap, I'm waiting! ;D
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thats true snagger but what has always made me wonder different cycles in runs between oswego little salmon and salmon river! and some different fish behavior lol i think between us we got a few millions hours logged on those waters
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snagger i'm waiting :)
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I'm waiting on both of you ::)
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bunker killer from your name sake you a salt water man?????
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thats true snagger but what has always made me wonder different cycles in runs between oswego little salmon and salmon river! and some different fish behavior lol i think between us we got a few millions hours logged on those waters
That was my bad on the 78 fish, you were right! Probably had to do with water flows back then. that was the first year I fished the River Trap. a friend of mine brought me up when I was 9 to where Barclays is today, we called it the Flats back then!
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bunker killer from your name sake you a salt water man?????
that's right Trap, in the Longisland sound area,Mostly for Bass sometimes Snagger sneaks down and fishes with us here he's had a few good days on my boat
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I'm waiting on both of you ::)
When are you, Jeremy, and Mooseman going to make your Pilgrimage up here! LATE AUGUST or LABOR DAY WEEKEND?
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bunker i fish the hampton bays area alot moriches and montuck :) yep you could fish that free back then before the land was leased up and shut off from drift boats
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When are you, Jeremy, and Mooseman going to make your Pilgrimage up here! LATE AUGUST or LABOR DAY WEEKEND?
I'm thinking late august, Labor Day Weekend is Wendy's birthday so you know how that goes. If you see anything that's worth a shot before that let me know
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bunker i fish the hampton bays area alot moriches and montuck :) yep you could fish that free back then before the land was leased up and shut off from drift boats
I fished Moriches allot when i was younger with my Father,it was always a great bay for Flounder an Fluke back then. But now I'm in the Connecticut area its a bit of a run by boat. I wonder if the Silly Lilly fishing station still rents boats there?
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Hey Trap what's your prediction on the first run! I don't consider it a run unless there moving all day and you can hook at least 30-40 fish! With all the bad weather almost every weekend, I'm predicting a monday, Tuesday the 24th, 25th run! :w00t:
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Hey Snagger, Ive got a 22ft Crusier with a 200hp Johnson on it here in the shop i wanted to talk with you about
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Hey Snagger, Ive got a 22ft Crusier with a 200hp Johnson on it here in the shop i wanted to talk with you about
Big Jimmy wants to upgrade, he was talking about buying a boat last weekend. How much room in the back for fishing the big lake! Put a pic on here, sounds a little bigger than what I'm looking for on Oneida!
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Big Jimmy wants to upgrade, he was talking about buying a boat last weekend. How much room in the back for fishing the big lake! Put a pic on here, sounds a little bigger than what I'm looking for on Oneida!
I'll pull it out and get Jeremy to post some pics in the next couple of days. I've been on the boat several times its in greate shape and plenty of room with a small cuddy cabin
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COOL, I'll tell Jimmy! BYE Trapper!
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snagger, i remember those late 80's runs well. thats when my dad started to let me fish more than just my dock. i remember a few times at the little black hole back then when you COULD NOT catch a fish. i do agree on the weather patterns thou. it make all the difference
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Drove into Altmar on a work related issue today and stopped at the hatchery. Although a bit tough to see into the ladders, I thought I saw some fish looking a bit more substantial than the steelies and brownies in there last week when I stopped.?????
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I just want to say that I learned more reading these past threads from SNAGGER and Trapper, than I have in the last 36 years that I can honestly say I have fished. The more I read, the more I learn!!! Thanks for the valuable info you guys :bowdown:--KingPerch
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I just want to say that I learned more reading these past threads from SNAGGER and Trapper, than I have in the last 36 years that I can honestly say I have fished. The more I read, the more I learn!!! Thanks for the valuable info you guys :bowdown:--KingPerch
i agree completely, except for me it more like 9 or 10 years. it also helps me decide whether or not to go fishing on the river because for me, its about an hour each way. you guys rock :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
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i agree completely, except for me it more like 9 or 10 years. it also helps me decide whether or not to go fishing on the river because for me, its about an hour each way. you guys rock :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
Any time you need info on the river, SNAGGER will be the man to contact. I just wished I fished it more growing up, and I live 10 minutes away. Tightlines :)
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It would cost a chunk of money to hire a guide to get much of the info these guys have been willing to provide. Although hiring a guide is something I am not apposed to. You can never get enough info. This season I will definately be paying more attention to water levels and feeding patterns.
Thanks guys!
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hey snagger, have their been any atlantics or skamanias in the river this summer?
I forgot to answer this question! I don't think they come in the River all in one bunch like they used too! when I moved here from Ithaca, there was alot of fish around Altmar in July, actually fishable numbers. But it seems more of them wait to come in with the early Kings/Coho's. I see it in my fish cleaning station in September! As far as atlantic's, there very, very slowly barely improving over the years, I did notice quite a few in lake pic's on LOU this summer, but don't know if thats normal or what, only been on the computer since last November!
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few years ago we use to get more alantics in sandy creek , but never in gaint numbers
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I forgot to answer this question! I don't think they come in the River all in one bunch like they used too! when I moved here from Ithaca, there was alot of fish around Altmar in July, actually fishable numbers. But it seems more of them wait to come in with the early Kings/Coho's. I see it in my fish cleaning station in September! As far as atlantic's, there very, very slowly barely improving over the years, I did notice quite a few in lake pic's on LOU this summer, but don't know if thats normal or what, only been on the computer since last November!
thanks snagger. i hope to get out a little more this year. i just got a new boat, and i'll be on onieda more often than not, but i still plan on fishing the river. a few winters ago i was fishing little sandy on a regular basis and found allott of juvenile atlantics. i also caught a bunch of juvies at the staircase 2 years ago, but havn't seen any numbers of adult fish. as far as the skamanias are concerned, i've only caught 5or6 and they were alll on the lake, but each one was an amazing battle!
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I can't believe it is almost Salmon season again... Holy smokes...
I am way more excited about the Chromers and Browns in that river- but will surely be spending a weekend or six camping at Selkirk Shores next month.
Maybe some partyin' at Stony's if he is rocking a music festival this year? Who knows!?!
It's hard not to get excited at the thought of a big run this Fall!
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I can't believe it is almost Salmon season again... Holy smokes...
I am way more excited about the Chromers and Browns in that river- but will surely be spending a weekend or six camping at Selkirk Shores next month.
Maybe some partyin' at Stony's if he is rocking a music festival this year? Who knows!?!
It's hard not to get excited at the thought of a big run this Fall!
If it was sunny and hot, nobody would be thinking about it, that big run in 98, it was hot as heck for days( 80's-90's) and water temp was in the mid to upper 70's! The only day that I saw ANOTHER person on the River was the THIRD day of the run when guys got blown off the lake and they went to the ball park and caught the tail end of it! That year there was a rumor going around that the hatchery accidentally imprinted(smolted) most Lake O's salmon to come back to the Salmon River! I believe it, because there were monster runs everytime the wind went into the South East or a T-Storm hit all Season!
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For anybody who fishes the ball park on the Salmon River, looks like the rumors are true. A landowner from Rainbow Shores or something has put up a chain link fence across the whole upper half of the ball park! From the cliff hole below the old cement abutment up towards the 81 hole on the southside! On the link fence it says POSTED, NO TRESSPASSING!
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man this is getting &^&*^% ed up. pretty soon i wont be able to travel 6 hrs just to fish that great river.. 2 years ago they were kicking us out from behind the a hole dentist office.. >:( getting to be not worth it. "pout" i love that place!
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snagger can we get a driftboat threw?
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snagger can we get a driftboat threw?
You know what trapper, I never thought about it, but that's not a bad Idea! With my bad ACL in my knee, which has kept me off the river quite a bit lately, Looks like I should buy a drift boat for all the boys here at the lodge! Wouldn't that be a hoot bouncing off all the rocks til we get the hang of it! My buddy from Albany has a fish rite with only one year on it, he only wants $2,000, maybe I'll get it! As long as your not guideing, I could let anybody use it, right! I let people take my watermasters down all the time! Back when I used to drink, I passed out on my watermaster at the wirehole and woke up at the pineville bridge, in a January whiteout at 750cfs! :w00t: I Can't wait!
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driftboats arn't bad lets go!!!!!!!!!
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I got a big raft that floats on 4 55gal. drums! We could really pile up the salmon on that puppy! There is a Trout Unlimited sticker on it 2 so we won't get hasseled by the man! :w00t:
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I got a big raft that floats on 4 55gal. drums! We could really pile up the salmon on that puppy! There is a Trout Unlimited sticker on it 2 so we won't get hasseled by the man! :w00t:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: snag you and dead up front! ain't my first rodeo lets get emmmmmmm hell i even kayaked that water before all depends on flow ;D
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U gotta just go with the flow ;D
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Just a heads up to everyone getting ready for salmon/steelhead season.
I stopoped into All Seasons a couple times this past week and
All Seasons Sports on rt 13 in Pulaski is full of great inventory. Looks like they have been receiving new stuff for the past few weeks. They also have lots of stuff on sale at great discounts.
For everyone who was looking into rod/reel combos on this thread and the other steelhead one,they have assorted Okuma spin combos for around $90!
I think that any single tackle store in Salmon River area has more specific tackle and a better price (usually) than Cabella's, Dicks, Bass Pro and Gander Mnt.
No matter what store we shop at on the river. We are keeping the money where the fish are.
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: snag you and dead up front! ain't my first rodeo lets get emmmmmmm hell i even kayaked that water before all depends on flow ;D
The first day I bought my watermaster, I miss gauged how long it would take to get to the black hole from pineville. started getting dark near 81 and had to run the rapids in Pulaski in the dark in January with temps in the single numbers. I was a frozen mesh from all the splashing at 750cfs when I got to the black hole, could hardly get my neoprenes off the raft! All my gear was froze to the raft for days! Rowed a drift boat at Oswego and Oneida, but never the River, can't be too much harder than a raft, except for keeping all the rest of the fishermen from killing me! ;D
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Oh forgot to say, took a walk to the shoolhouse yesterday and seen 1 king in the wire pool and 2 big skamanians around 14lbs a piece just above the rootball! There's a few around! Rivers back to a nice 185cfs, good level for using your glasses and taking a walk down river, if theres any public water left!!
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The first day I bought my watermaster, I miss gauged how long it would take to get to the black hole from pineville. started getting dark near 81 and had to run the rapids in Pulaski in the dark in January with temps in the single numbers. I was a frozen mesh from all the splashing at 750cfs when I got to the black hole, could hardly get my neoprenes off the raft! All my gear was froze to the raft for days! Rowed a drift boat at Oswego and Oneida, but never the River, can't be too much harder than a raft, except for keeping all the rest of the fishermen from killing me! ;D
"staircase" in the dark :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: ya shoulda pulled out at ball park and walked ya goof :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Where can we fish anymore on the river without a hassle from :police:?
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Hey Deadeyez! How is the plans for that raft coming along for the river? Sounds like alot of fun! Trap, Do we use bobbers on the big River? ;D
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if snagger keeps going down the staircase when the water is running at night in a blow up he'll be a bobber :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: lollllllll what a nut
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You and I both enjoy the stories of the SNAGGERS past. That boy certainly enjoyed having fun!! I have some stories myself of the good ol' days but I'll keep them for fishing entertainment when the fishing is slow ;D
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if snagger keeps going down the staircase when the water is running at night in a blow up he'll be a bobber :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: lollllllll what a nut
REMEMBER THE OLD TUBE RACE DAYS, when they ran the water at 2500cfs, got some broken ribs from flipping off my tube in the town hole and had to body surf the corner rapids above the High Bridge! Didn't hurt til the next day though, went to the Pulaski Field Days with my buddies and Mikey Fiumano, drunker than Kooter Brown! The good ole days! Hey back in July of 98, we had a jumping off the Altmar Bridge party, when the River was at 8,500cfs and my property was under water! In that case, after a couple of hours, one guy almost did die, so we stopped doing it!
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Oh forgot to say, took a walk to the shoolhouse yesterday and seen 1 king in the wire pool and 2 big skamanians around 14lbs a piece just above the rootball! There's a few around! Rivers back to a nice 185cfs, good level for using your glasses and taking a walk down river, if theres any public water left!!
how much of the river is being posted up? I know where i liked to go before the indians bough so that a no go anymore
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how much of the river is being posted up? I know where i liked to go before the indians bough so that a no go anymore
Barkley leased the lower black rapids, he owns the other side of stair case( only a matter of time before he has this side, plus no parking). A dentist or lawyer owns from high bridge to tail of town hole, now the whole upper ball park and as you mentioned the Indians bought my good friend Bruce Walden's old place at clarks falls above the papermill. Looks like the glass hole is gone now too! Too hard to keep up! At one time the DSR was OURS( the tax payers)!
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Barkley leased the lower black rapids, he owns the other side of stair case( only a matter of time before he has this side,plus no parking). A dentist or lawyer owns from high bridge to tail of town hole, now the whole upper ball park and as you mentioned the Indians bought my good friend Bruce Walden's old place at clarks falls above the papermill. Looks like the glass hole is gone now too! Too hard to keep up! At one time the DSR was OURS( the tax payers)!
what about the paper mill that still accessible that gets right stacked with fish
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what about the paper mill that still accessible that gets right stacked with fish
That paper mill makes high quality photographic paper and film for Kodak with there pristine ground water from the Tug hill aquifer! Now with the new digital age were in, there's less demand for such things and they have laid most of there work force off. Wouldn't suprise me if they sold some there land also to some Fat Cat! As for now it's still Public!
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wow snagger just thinking if we still had all of those out of state people buying all the lic the state would have had the money to buy these lands for future fisherman!!!!! guess there wasn't enought good catch and release boys to pay for it .....dig dig
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wow snagger just thinking if we still had all of those out of state people buying all the lic the state would have had the money to buy these lands for future fisherman!!!!! guess there wasn't enought good catch and release boys to pay for it .....dig dig
The DEC got a gillizion dollars for that Occidental chemical suit from the old love canal days. They said they were going to do stream improvements, starting at the upper fly zone and continuing down River to at least the sportsman hole or til the money ran out. Well they did a bank erosion improvement on the upper fly zone, built them another parking lot, then built a wall across a flood diversion( also in the buffer zone between the fly zones), then did a bank improvement at the head of the church pool in the lower fly zone. When they got to the Altmar bridge they were supposed to fix the turn, the barrel hole, the schoolhouse and around the muskrat. Must be they ran out of money when they got to the working man's part of the River after they were done with the Yuppie playground ( fly zones). Haven't seen a machine around in 2 years! Now Fran is blaming foot paths as the main reason for soil erosion, not the unnatural 750-1800 flows we have most of the seasons when plants aren't alive to hold the banks together! I'm glad we have River coordinators and stewards, where would we be without them!
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I REALLY ALMOST PASSED OUT when I read yesterday that footpaths were the main reason why sediment was choking the Salmon River bottom. These people never fail to amaze me! I thought the River was as healthy as I've ever seen it! Plus all the beaten in snagger days paths are long over grown now, like need a masheddy to get to some spots! I wonder where that $800,000 or something went. Still haven't seen are ice fishing parking lot we were promised out of that money over to Sandy Pond! State had money to buy the Portly Angler for 1.2 million as a training ground for rangers and young wardens though! I have no problem with that, just give us some more fishing access and our promised improvements on the river!
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snagger i don't have my book so i'm going back with just memory here but the main erosion wasn't from paths it was from the flood in i believe early 80's maybe late 70's , the bridge in pulaki(in town was underwater and fear the dam was going to go upstream i can remeber water was flowing threw salmon river sports shop! alot of the river was changed that year!
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REMEMBER THE OLD TUBE RACE DAYS, when they ran the water at 2500cfs, got some broken ribs from flipping off my tube in the town hole and had to body surf the corner rapids above the High Bridge! Didn't hurt til the next day though, went to the Pulaski Field Days with my buddies and Mikey Fiumano, drunker than Kooter Brown! The good ole days! Hey back in July of 98, we had a jumping off the Altmar Bridge party, when the River was at 8,500cfs and my property was under water! In that case, after a couple of hours, one guy almost did die, so we stopped doing it!
That would've been a good reason NOT to do it anymore!!! With the stupid stuff I did and the stuff you did, Thank god you and I didn't hang around together back in the day!!! ::) I always like reading your stories. ;D
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I REALLY ALMOST PASSED OUT when I read yesterday that footpaths were the main reason why sediment was choking the Salmon River bottom. These people never fail to amaze me! I thought the River was as healthy as I've ever seen it! Plus all the beaten in snagger days paths are long over grown now, like need a masheddy to get to some spots! I wonder where that $800,000 or something went. Still haven't seen are ice fishing parking lot we were promised out of that money over to Sandy Pond! State had money to buy the Portly Angler for 1.2 million as a training ground for rangers and young wardens though! I have no problem with that, just give us some more fishing access and our promised improvements on the river!
I remember this as well, where did those funds go for fishing access? Alot of promises, but no commitments. It would be like me taking $20,000.00 from Trapper for improvements on his home and having me go buy a bassboat. ::)
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well wait!!!! do i get to fish in the bassboat ......or you getting new friends that dress in orvis cloths and liftfish and say" HE HIT!!!! HE HIT!!!! " oh do i need to wear a pfd when ever were "underway"?????????? lolllllllll
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1st- Trapper, can I have the $20,000.00? ;D
2nd- people find out I got money,Well yes,I will have new friends!!!! ;D
3rd- NO Orvis clothes allowed! ;D
4th- We only yell " I snagged, I snagged!!!" ;D
5th and final- NO PFD's!!!! Now Trapper were underway, I'll bring the coffee! :w00t: FISH ON!!!!
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snagger i don't have my book so i'm going back with just memory here but the main erosion wasn't from paths it was from the flood in i believe early 80's maybe late 70's , the bridge in pulaki(in town was underwater and fear the dam was going to go upstream i can remeber water was flowing threw salmon river sports shop! alot of the river was changed that year!
I remember that flood, I drove up from Ithaca to witness it, I was in 7th or 8th grade, so that would make it late December of 81 or 82. When I got into town the roadfs were blocked off, so we walked to town and the water was running through the buildings where tony's big A used to be anddown the street over to the old Silver Star grocery store! It was insane, like 18,000cfs or something. Hey if that storm that stalled out west of Syracuse last night had stalled here, we would have been in a bad situation today! I've got old photo's of where the river went right through my yard and ripped all of the road away for a half mile! WHERE DID OUR BANK IMPROVEMENT MONEY GO!
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Here's something to think about trapper, 3 years ago the power company gave the State all there land up here around the upper fly zone and down by the wire hole. I thought great! But now they have had Surveyers here 2 times a year for 3 years, remarking the same area's over and over! Sounds like job security to me, enough all ready! Spend some of that money to buy more easements for the public! That 1.2 million for the Portly could have bought quite a few acres of 200 foot easements for the public! WHERE DID OUR BANK IMPROVEMENT MONEY GO? Where did our ice fishing parking lot money go? All from occidental chemical corp.! On a fishing note, my buddies did pretty good on the kings this past weekend out on the lake. A couple of PIGS! Going to be some big ones this year!
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without a doubt snagger! keep the orvis make believe yippies happy ( they don't even have saabs) and screw the regular guy !!!!! why is it ok to lift in the flyfishing section and no where else???? like i don't know what a moochin road is! and why are they even allowed in there ! fly fishing is defined by a form of fishing which the line is the weight that carrys the fly!!!! not a 1/4 ounce of weight on braided line!!!!! ...............just askin
your right about the parking on the pond thats how dumb the state is they could put a parking lot in with easy access and charge 2 bucks and pay for it and make money! in summer have a launch!
i wonder if my money went to a blind appointed govenor for harlots in da bronxs..................just askin
and as long as were at it how come theres new boating laws being passed with out knowledge of the voters to further drive tourist away????? did i row in front of a flyfisherman?????......just askin
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your right about the parking on the pond thats how dumb the state is they could put a parking lot in with easy access and charge 2 bucks and pay for it and make money! in summer have a launch!
Trapper the money to buy a piece of land for anglers to park at Sandy Pond & Chaumont bay was already GIVEN to the DEC from that Occidental Chemical suit! WHERE DID IT GO?
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told ya snagger buying harlots for a blind appointed govenror in Da Bronx :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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really it would be nice to know!
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to be honest snagger i'm sure that money was used for something important like doggie poop bags in hiking trails or the study of effects from fowl hooked salmon on bi sexual spotted newts....................... important stuff
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to be honest snagger i'm sure that money was used for something important like doggie poop bags in hiking trails or the study of effects from fowl hooked salmon on bi sexual spotted newts....................... important stuff
Does this pertain to the bi-sexual OGGO POGGO as well? That right there is really important stuff, when the oggo poggo run is a few weeks away. Snagger be on the lookout and warn your clients!!! ;D
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i have some good reports of the oggo poggo being seen in oneida lake and heading in a northerly direction
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OGGO POGGO does'nt stand a chance this year. SNAGGER will get that jigging rap back. :flex:
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as i was out in the kayak today i noticed a swirl in the water and a animal gettin out ! yes it was the oggo poggo ! this time i had my cameria and i catured the beast on file !!!!!!!1 what your about to see is hidous and scary please have small children leave the room!(https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F&hash=95b82c89ba4d3bc33c562212006dc28d)(https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi579.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss231%2Ftrapper2000%2Fimages.jpg&hash=d49357e42c2764cdee3737384239df94)
this clearly shows the oggo poggo on dry land! snagger for gods sakes man be careful he was headed your way
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as i was out in the kayak today i noticed a swirl in the water and a animal gettin out ! yes it was the oggo poggo ! this time i had my cameria and i catured the beast on file !!!!!!!1 what your about to see is hidous and scary please have small children leave the room!(https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F&hash=95b82c89ba4d3bc33c562212006dc28d)(https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi579.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fss231%2Ftrapper2000%2Fimages.jpg&hash=d49357e42c2764cdee3737384239df94)
this clearly shows the oggo poggo on dry land! snagger for gods sakes man be careful he was headed your way
Every day there's more and more of them showing up in the Schoolhouse hole, saw 3 today! They like to stage in the lower fly, because of all the easy prey! Hey I forgot to say in my previous stories about rafting, NO PFD's in January on the Salmon River! But I did wear one during one of the old TUBE RACES years ago! Up to your own judgement, that's why God gave you a brain!
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snagger i wasn't going to share this in open form but i feel i should i actuallt witness a oggo poggo spawning run here is the pictures to prove it
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now if you guys by this then you probablly buy that the state cares about you and works for your best interest
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I remember that flood, I drove up from Ithaca to witness it, I was in 7th or 8th grade, so that would make it late December of 81 or 82.
Driving a car as a 7th or 8th grader, you ought to b ashamed! :nono: :police:
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Driving a car as a 7th or 8th grader, you ought to b ashamed! :nono: :police:
You didn't know me back then, I would do ANYTHING to get up to the Famous Salmon River! :unsure: Trap that is what I saw off Godfrey the other night! :D
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Trapper the money to buy a piece of land for anglers to park at Sandy Pond & Chaumont bay was already GIVEN to the DEC from that Occidental Chemical suit! WHERE DID IT GO?
we don't need a public launch on the pond it will bring way too many people in.... ice fishing out there is already crowded enough.
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we don't need a public launch on the pond it will bring way too many people in.... ice fishing out there is already crowded enough.
I wasn't saying we needed one, just saying the money was already set aside for a public access to the Pond and Chaumont Bay. It would solve all the problems with rutted up yards at the Elms though!
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ya we really do what if greens point stops access again now one laiblity at the wig wam and were done not to mention the jerks tearing up private properity at sebers shores!!!! we need public access well maybe not me i have family and friends there.... right now access is at someones mercy not a good place to be specially when it was paid for
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ya we really do what if greens point stops access again now one laiblity at the wig wam and were done not to mention the jerks tearing up private properity at sebers shores!!!! we need public access well maybe not me i have family and friends there.... right now access is at someones mercy not a good place to be specially when it was paid for
you're probobly right but I have no issue with access own 200' of frontage I'm just worried about it turning into a zoo more than it already is.....
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you're probobly right but I have no issue with access own 200' of frontage I'm just worried about it turning into a zoo more than it already is.....
last year everywhere was crowded from time to time because of the long cold winter with plenty of good ice. This year we'll probably go back to a mild winter pattern. Until the Canadians killed all the Adult walleyes in the pond, I used to like going down to the pond for the last 2 hours, but I can't afford $7 every evening for 2 hours fishing! 2-3 years ago, got legal walleye every night just about, didn't even go there last year! Just went to Oneida!
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I have been checking the water level often the last couple of days and it doesn't seem to be increasing at the rate of the Oswego and Seneca. Was there significantly less rain further North or are they holding it above the dam?
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differance with oswego is the fingerlakes and a whole lot bigger water shed!
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I have been checking the water level often the last couple of days and it doesn't seem to be increasing at the rate of the Oswego and Seneca. Was there significantly less rain further North or are they holding it above the dam?
Traps right the Oswego watershed is huge compared to the salmon River's, plus most Thunderstorm complexes have been just south or west of here!
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last year everywhere was crowded from time to time because of the long cold winter with plenty of good ice. This year we'll probably go back to a mild winter pattern. Until the Canadians killed all the Adult walleyes in the pond, I used to like going down to the pond for the last 2 hours, but I can't afford $7 every evening for 2 hours fishing! 2-3 years ago, got legal walleye every night just about, didn't even go there last year! Just went to Oneida!
SNAGGER, the wigwam offers a $70.00 access pass to the pond year round. I bought one and it helps with the amount of trips with the boat and ice-fishing! Just thought I'd let you know!
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70 bucks is a bitter pill when the access money was there and snagger has a rightful complaint wheres the money!
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hey off subject (like any of us care) wanted to share a picture of some of the spring stripers i got on the flyrod
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70 bucks is a bitter pill when the access money was there and snagger has a rightful complaint wheres the money!
I'm not going into a debate with you and SNAGGER!!!! Seems that all of us have to spend money we don't want to spend just to enjoy the outdoors. Almost seems that we all pay twice for some things, just to enjoy a day out. The money was there once and we have to spend our own money again!!! WHERE DID ALL THAT MONEY GO? :cookoo: :cursing:
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hey off subject (like any of us care) wanted to share a picture of some of the spring stripers i got on the flyrod
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HEY TRAP, Where did you catch those stripers? KP-JR.
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i snagged then in the flyfishing zone :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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nice ones :thumbup_smilie:......dont ya mean you lifted em.....cant keep a foul hooked fish :nono: :w00t:
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really i got them on onieda lake .....them white perch get big there
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You lift them with a 1/0 hook and sponge? ;D
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nope used snakeheads as cut bait
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You shouldn't spill all your secrets on here Trap!!! Alot of lurkers!! ;D
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it's ok i only have enough "rocky" cut up for us to make one more trip
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last year everywhere was crowded from time to time because of the long cold winter with plenty of good ice. This year we'll probably go back to a mild winter pattern. Until the Canadians killed all the Adult walleyes in the pond, I used to like going down to the pond for the last 2 hours, but I can't afford $7 every evening for 2 hours fishing! 2-3 years ago, got legal walleye every night just about, didn't even go there last year! Just went to Oneida!
you need a place to park PM me i'll give you my address ur welcome anytime
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you need a place to park PM me i'll give you my address ur welcome anytime
Thanks man! Ever need to get to the schoolhouse when the lots aren't plowed, you can park in my driveway! I think it will be a few years before the pond gets back to where it was pre lampricide disaster! Ever get a steelhead through the ice there? I never have, but I hear they do from time to time!
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nope used snakeheads as cut bait
AH HA!!!!!!!!! NOW I KNOW WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE! :w00t: I've seen you on the River before! You lined that fish! ;)
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SALMON RIVER SALMON ALERT! A friend of a friend said he seen 20 salmon go by him in the Pulaski rapids yesterday, didn't really think anything of it. But just checked the DSR report and they said 16 fish went through! The guy I'm talking about that fished the pulaski rapids, I've fished behind before, if he said he seen 100, you might find a dozen or so! DSR seems to always puts out good reports on Thursdays to get people for the upcoming Weekend, Sounds like it could be a Tuesday attempt to fill the place for their Opening Weekend this Saturday. we'll see, Either way there are SOME fish moving daily! The proof will be in the DSR Saturday Report!
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snagger i landed steelies at the park pond in fair haven before ,very common to do ....lot of browns too
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Thanks man! Ever need to get to the schoolhouse when the lots aren't plowed, you can park in my driveway! I think it will be a few years before the pond gets back to where it was pre lampricide disaster! Ever get a steelhead through the ice there? I never have, but I hear they do from time to time!
pulled this one through the ice on sandy pond last february...
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as far as the lampricide goes i did very well with the wallys last year after they poured it in so i was optimistic. This year not so much I only have caught 14 out of the pond this year to date.
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nice steelie fish! kinda like a bonus huh???
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sure was, i thought it was a pike until it screamed all the 4lb test off my jiggin rod.... then it made me think a little
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SALMON RIVER SALMON ALERT! A friend of a friend said he seen 20 salmon go by him in the Pulaski rapids yesterday, didn't really think anything of it. But just checked the DSR report and they said 16 fish went through! The guy I'm talking about that fished the pulaski rapids, I've fished behind before, if he said he seen 100, you might find a dozen or so! DSR seems to always puts out good reports on Thursdays to get people for the upcoming Weekend, Sounds like it could be a Tuesday attempt to fill the place for their Opening Weekend this Saturday. we'll see, Either way there are SOME fish moving daily! The proof will be in the DSR Saturday Report!
i knew this would happen, just before i go on vacation :(. i was hoping for an early or late show on the fishes part... oh well, can't control the fish
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I wouldn't worry about it FISHMAN, I've seen this before! It's just a bunch of people who wish there was a good run in the River and can't wait for the real run that will evenually come! Ever since about 04 with these internet forums, I've been tricked a few times into walking 2 miles to find 1 or 2 salmon or zero! We didn't get any of those T-Storms and no east winds to flip the lake over, so it's not likely theres really pods of fish moving! I'm driving down to DSR, to see how many retards pay $30 to maybe get to see a salmon running up the rapids, let alone hook one! I planned a work party to put a new roof on my house from the 22th through the 28th, that way the guys that come can maybe get a few salmon too! It's always worked in the past! If the power co. waits til September 4th to raise the water, along with good weather conditions, now that could really spark a run, being the latest they've waited in a while with Labor day being the 7th this year!
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pulled this one through the ice on sandy pond last february...
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That is totally awesome man! What a fight it must have put up! :bowdown: :thumbup_smilie:
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yeah it was a riot not to mention the ice in the shanty was clear so i could see him zip by the hole and under my feet about 10 times before i actually figured out what it was.
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22nd is always a good bet snag! i might take a ride and walk up to the dam in oswego tonight
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22nd is always a good bet snag! i might take a ride and walk up to the dam in oswego tonight
The 22nd and every 4 years were lucky numbers for a while, there was a great early run on the 22nd in 86, 90, 94, 98, so, so run in 02 it was weird! Hey FISHTANK I got a 3 1/2 lb. atlantic while ice fishing Oneida a few years back that freaked me out. When I got it to the hole it jumped 2 feet out on the ice, didn't know the regs, so threw it back!
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22nd is always a good bet snag! i might take a ride and walk up to the dam in oswego tonight
Hey Trap, you've heard about those new Yuppie glasses that are popular at the DSR! There made by Oakley, they run about $200 a pair, everyone there are wearing them these days! There polorized and have little fish painted on them, so it appears as every run is full of fish! :w00t:
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: hey snag we do ya need to see bottom if your really tring to get a fish to hit????????? hmmmmmmmm :whistling:
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For safety reasons of course. Wouldn't want anyone falling down and getting a boo boo! :wacko:
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SALMON ALERT PART 2 Just got a report of large #'s of kings and steelies moving through Pulaski. I got to go there anyway, I'll let you know what I see!
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i might just have to convince my dad to take us up before we go
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JUST HOOKED TEN KINGS IN PULASKI! Landed 3! ITS ON BOYZ! Fish on! :o
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Aren't you supposed to be waldo fishing? LOL ;D
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who cares about salmon!!!!!!!! DID YA SEE THE OGGO POGGO??????????? any snakeheads????? ya need a piece of sponge that loos like a hot dog
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who cares about salmon!!!!!!!! DID YA SEE THE OGGO POGGO??????????? any snakeheads????? ya need a piece of sponge that loos like a hot dog
I just got back from getting car parts, stopped at the ball park, checked 3 key spots with my glasses NOTHING MOVING, saw nothing in Town Pool either except what appeared to be a posible early run lochness OGGO POGGO looking for a quick easy meal! They love to prey on tasty people who say Salmon bite, then lift them when nobodys looking! ;D
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I just got back from getting car parts, stopped at the ball park, checked 3 key spots with my glasses NOTHING MOVING, saw nothing in Town Pool either except what appeared to be a posible early run lochness OGGO POGGO looking for a quick easy meal! They love to prey on tasty people who say Salmon bite, then lift them when nobodys looking! ;D
You mean to tell me that all this time salmon don't bite?? ::)
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hey snagger seriously ... don't make me drive for nothing!!!! any snakeheads????
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hey snagger seriously ... don't make me drive for nothing!!!! any snakeheads????
I'm waiting for SNAGGER'S responce, I got the kids in the truck waiting to drive to Pulaski!!!! ;D
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UPPER BALL PARK POSTED! I walked up to the 12 foot tall fence that said posted! It doesn't appear that that much of the River has been gobbled up. The trail to the cliff hole and the shute above it is still ours and all the rapids from 81 down to where that old culvert cement thing is appears to still be ours. They built a deck on that culvert thing! Pretty much the new owners own the ball park side of that long slate run in between the rapids! In higher water will have to park at the halldane center parking lot on the other side to fish upper rapids! At 385 or lower, you can just cross then re cross to fish those good rapids just above that long slate run!
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UPPER BALL PARK POSTED! I walked up to the 12 foot tall fence that said posted! It doesn't appear that that much of the River has been gobbled up. The trail to the cliff hole and the shute above it is still ours and all the rapids from 81 down to where that old culvert cement thing is appears to still be ours. They built a deck on that culvert thing! Pretty much the new owners own the ball park side of that long slate run in between the rapids! In higher water will have to park at the halldane center parking lot on the other side to fish upper rapids! At 385 or lower, you can just cross then re cross to fish those good rapids just above that long slate run!
:afro:where da suckas at
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:wacko: Hey Newbie, ever hooked anything out of the River before on your own or do you hire guides to hook them for you? :w00t:
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:afro:I needs nobody to catch my suckas,just a worm and a 40
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:afro:I needs nobody to catch my suckas,just a worm and a 40
Speaking of 40's, i wonder how many johnny had, he's telling everyone he hooked 70 fish at the LB today. More steelies than kings! I'm going down to SEE what the real DEAL is!
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Speaking of 40's, i wonder how many johnny had, he's telling everyone he hooked 70 fish at the LB today. More steelies than kings! I'm going down to SEE what the real DEAL is!
maybe he got bit by rocky and is hallucinating :w00t:
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WHAT ROCKY HIT SOMEONE!!!!!!!!!!! I KNEW IT WOULD HAPPEN!!! YA HEAR THAT SNAGGER CONFIRMED SNAKE HEAD ATTACKS IN SALMON RIVER!!!!! THE STATE WANTS THEM ELIMINATED !!!!! SALMON RIVER CRICKETS AND BRAIDED LINE BOYS....LOCK AND LOAD ...... NOTHING COMES OUT ALIVE.....KEEP CHILDREN AND LIVE STOCK BACK .... THE SQIMSIH STAY AWAY IT AIN'T PRETTY BUT IT'S FOR THE SAFTY AND PROTECTION OF OUR WATERWAYS......GOD BLLESS YOU MEN ....LETS MOVE OUT...DRIVE THE HOLES SNAG THEM IN RAPIDS
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NO SALMON! Went out and fished the entire staircase all the way to the island way down below and the upper lower black area, plus briefly stopped and fished a couple of pockets at the ball park! Didn't see a salmon and didn't hook one. And I fished effectivelly, if you know what mean! If you want to make a long drive for some fallfish, have at it! They should have a derby at the DSR Opening this weekend for the only Salmon seen or maybe even hooked! Better yet a fallfish derby! Hey trap there was a snakehead hiding on the Island, but he let me pass, said I was cool! ;)
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NO SALMON! Went out and fished the entire staircase all the way to the island way down below and the upper lower black area, plus briefly stopped and fished a couple of pockets at the ball park! Didn't see a salmon and didn't hook one. And I fished effectivelly, if you know what mean! If you want to make a long drive for some fallfish, have at it! They should have a derby at the DSR Opening this weekend for the only Salmon seen or maybe even hooked! Better yet a fallfish derby! Hey trap there was a snakehead hiding on the Island, but he let me pass, said I was cool! ;)
snakeheads must be blind as johnny to say you were cool :o
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snakeheads must be blind as johnny to say you were cool :o
:clapping: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: Does Slammy know your on here? :w00t: Waters only 185, Johnny must have been whereing those Oakleys with fish on the lenses! :blink:
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maybe your not as good a lifter as jonnie and their really is fish in the river
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Fished from around 6am till 11am this morning. Saw nothing at all. Some dude told me he had just seen about a dozen go into some rapids just above the launch in the ballpark? Not interesting enough yet. Guess I will be out on Cayuga Lake Friday jigging some Lakers out of 90FOW.
I think some people see shadows and think they are pods :-[
It was too dark in the fish ladder to see anything but a couple browns/steelies towards the creek.
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lambastem is the new BIG WEENIE
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WHATS UP LAMBASTEM! Glad 2 c u on here now! :w00t: Git er done-DEADEYEZ
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Hey Guys I am back from a long busy season of dealing with people. I need to get back to reality. And hearing about the latest Posted property just makes my blood boil. Maybe we should buy a section of river and install a sign and barb wire!
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Hey Guys I am back from a long busy season of dealing with people. I need to get back to reality. And hearing about the latest Posted property just makes my blood boil. Maybe we should buy a section of river and install a sign and barb wire!
and the sign should read "all politicians and rich snobs prohibited" ;D ;D
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Hey Fishman did you go to Virginia yet? I forgot to say yesterday, I took a River temp and it was 78 degrees in the current at 7pm! It was probably much cooler in AM, but with only 185 it warms quick daily! I walked into it with my shorts, no shock what so ever! If I didn't have my wallet and smokes, would have laid down in it! I'm not a flyfisherman, but some big bug was flying off the water near dark!
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Lock away the women of Pulaski, Snagger... I am going to start creeping around there again in a few weeks!
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Hey Fishman did you go to Virginia yet? I forgot to say yesterday, I took a River temp and it was 78 degrees in the current at 7pm! It was probably much cooler in AM, but with only 185 it warms quick daily! I walked into it with my shorts, no shock what so ever! If I didn't have my wallet and smokes, would have laid down in it! I'm not a flyfisherman, but some big bug was flying off the water near dark!
nope, haven't left. visiting family in pa this weekends/beginning of next week. then coming home, repacking the car, and heading of to VA next weekend for a week of fun in the sun. im hopping to catch some fish from the piers or the surf where we are camping, . even though im here for a couple days now and later, i doubt i will be able to get up to the river.
on another note, 78?!?!?!!!! wow, that is warmer then i ever would have guessed the river would get. still no fish? and im still mainly a spinning gear fisherman, i was just learning another way to fish with the flyfishing course (although, flyfishings a nice way to get make the quest for trout more fun, even a small trout puts up a nice fight)
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Hey Bobber Down, how you doing on the big pond??? How is Biros treating ya??
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Hay Snagger,
We are logged on for the season and redy to blog. Ill be calling you this weekend a friend wants to come up and look around next weekend he wants to get in to salmon fishing this year. He dosent know what he is in for. See ya :o
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Lock away the women of Pulaski, Snagger... I am going to start creeping around there again in a few weeks!
Hey that reminds me of a story about Mermaids! Back during the RUN OF THE CENTURY in 98, me, my buddy mooseman, little drunk dave, and my good friend noodles ( he's russian) , all walked up to the Hotel and got abolutelly hammered on vodka and buds! Noodles was pretty much black out funny loaded, he didn't notice that we had grabbed a couple of broads from the bar at closing! When we crossed the bridge we decided to go swimming in the middle of a pod of a hundred salmon in our birth day suits! As we were swimming around with all the salmon, noodles kept saying look at all the mermaids, look at all the mermaids. It was so funny, He still looks over bridge every year for Mermaids! ;D
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lambastem is the new BIG WEENIE
He's not very big but he is a weenie!!!! :afro:
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He's not very big but he is a weenie!!!! :afro:
He's a big something! :wacko: GIVE EM SORE MOUTHS THIS WEEKEND SLAMMY, looks like a good trolling weekend on the BIG "O"! Well headed down to Oneida to try to get a couple of hours in on some WALDO'S!
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heard there was a few hook ups in oswego....i don't know it for fact
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maybe your not as good a lifter as Johnnie and their really is fish in the river
Hey SNAGGER, This post really needs a reply.I just got on this morning to catch up on some reading. Ill get those pics up this week sometime. I sure hope Wendy recovers before the run starts. Id hate to ask her to take a cab home from the hospital because the fish were in!
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Hey SNAGGER, This post really needs a reply.I just got on this morning to catch up on some reading. Ill get those pics up this week sometime. I sure hope Wendy recovers before the run starts. Id hate to ask her to take a cab home from the hospital because the fish were in!
Salmon off the mouth are now only in about 100-110 feet, I'm curious where they will be by next weekend with all this heat! If they don't retreat a little, look out late August! She might have to take a cab! :w00t:
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Has anyone ever done any Pike fishing in the Salmon River Estuary? It seems like it would be a good place for Northerns during the summer.
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Has anyone ever done any Pike fishing in the Salmon River Estuary? It seems like it would be a good place for Northerns during the summer.
I haven't in the last 15 years, but it used to be really good. I imagine it's still good, it's set up alot like the Pond and that is still pretty good!
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Hey SOS what you doing still up! Some of those salmon from a couple of weeks ago are going bellie up in this heat, and the steelies are hiding in my spring to get away from the warm river water! There was like 10 cars at the bridge, so I went down to see what all the hoopla was about! Same 10 or 12 fish that have been there since 1st week of July!
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hey snagger can you "lift" at the dsr or will they kick you out? i would not mind trying it once but dont want to spend $30 to get kicked out. it seems like alot of yuppies go there looking at thier web site
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hey snagger can you "lift" at the dsr or will they kick you out? i would not mind trying it once but dont want to spend $30 to get kicked out. it seems like alot of yuppies go there looking at thier web site
I've only been back once since I stopped fishing there in 88, A guy here had a couple passes that he gave me for the next day, but because of an emergency he had to leave. Me and friend went down there in like 96 or something. I ran down to a hole we used to call the coho hole. Me and my friend set up in the tailout and abolutelly CRUSHED the KINGS! Hooking fish on every cast, all in the mouth, hardly lifted the rod and threw them all back! We were kicked out in less than an hour! :wacko: I guess we were TOO GOOD at it with our fly rods and mono! It's a MAKE BELIEVE WORLD down there, got to do alot of PRETENDING and don't hook too many or you might show up the season pass holder PRO'S! :rotflol: :rotflol:
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it's all bs and we all know it ...most unfair and illegal thing i ever seen is stopping the drift boats from going threw....
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You guys need a zipline that runs from pulaski down to the hatchery right over the river so you can fish the whole thing. Sounds crazy what is goin on up there! Those people should be jailed for closing off access and parts of the river! Unreal!-Dead
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You guys need a zipline that runs from pulaski down to the hatchery right over the river so you can fish the whole thing. Sounds crazy what is goin on up there! Those people should be jailed for closing off access and parts of the river! Unreal!-Dead
as long as the state funds the fish that are stocked in the river i don't think they should be able to block it off like that
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Has anyone ever done any Pike fishing in the Salmon River Estuary? It seems like it would be a good place for Northerns during the summer.
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My parents used to have a camp there and in the 1960's I used to catch quite a few. The fishing seemed to taper off in the 80's and 90's for some reason. My uncle says maybe the salmon ate them all!!!
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Hey SOS what you doing still up!
LOL ya i was up pretty late last night and i was pretty bored ::)
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It is absolutely illegal to prevent access down any creek or river. Of course, you cannot anchor, get out of the boat, or have a line in the water. But, never-the-less, they cannot prevent access if you are on the water passing thru. Remember, the state owns most of the waterways but not the land next to or under them. You have the right to pass thru and if that path is impeded, it is done so illegally. I personally have never been down there and do not know what is there to stop a boat from drifting thru. If there is something across the water preventing a boat from drifting by, then that is a dangerous and illegal action by someone. This can be handled legally or the way it was many years ago on the Cattaraugus in Yorkshire. Someone kept installing a small fence across the creek and someone else kept cutting it out. They would call the cops and the DEC, but there was nothing they could do unless someone was trespassing. They were also warned that they could not impede anyone or anything from floating down the creek.
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long story but after trying to argue with dec about a spot that was supposed to be public fishing and was blocked off he rattled something like that off about the people own the land under the creek but not the water in it so if we could find a way to fish it without anchoring or touching shore or bottom there is nothing they can do
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it is not illegal to stop access! which was proven they can stop the boats from going threw the douglaston! they have done it and it held up in court.
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it is not illegal to stop access! which was proven they can stop the boats from going threw the douglaston! they have done it and it held up in court.
Well, maybe with our license fee hikes, the state can build another hatchery below the dsr, and steer the fish in there, making the DSR obsolete......what are the odds......LOLOLOLOL!!! ;D
(Probably got a better chance of seeing Jesus in a juice bar..)
Anchorman
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if you fish the lower part of salmon river below the rt 3 bridge yes it's awesome pike fishing in the spring good bullhead water too
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I don't have a problem with the Senator posting his own land, that's a land owners right, but when he pays other land owners for their river frontage and then manages it and profits from it, that should be illegal! I remember when I used to fish a hole near the cemetery below 2A, then a guy came and built a nice home and a couple of cabins right on the River. He did a great job of maintaining his lawn and shrubs right to the River and we respect his property and all just fish around his property now! That's how it should be, but when you start buying easements and large tracks of woods just to profit off them, that's wrong! The Lower black is all cliffs, nobody's property is maintained to the River, fishermen aren't walking across somebody's lawn or anything! Just blatent greed! Those are the laws that should be changed! But they won't, power runs this world! You can float threw DSR, but how are you going to fish without anchoring though!
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you are not even allowed to fish when passing through private property...no anchoring, no fishing, no picnicing, no stopping, no wading, nothing...your pass-thru has to be as expeditious as the water flows
the only reasons any of the areas that are off-limits hold up in a court of law is because someone powerful and with money pulls enough strings. It is still illegal to impede a vessel from floating thru. The problem is not enough people in that are have enough voice or enough power to change what someone with the power has set in motion.
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It is still illegal to impede a vessel from floating thru. The problem is not enough people in that are have enough voice or enough power to change what someone with the power has set in motion.
No you can float threw, just can't stop! Years ago this went to the Supreme court of New York. If you own both sides of a waterway (that is not designated a navigable waterway) you can post it because the land owner owns the land under the water!
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snagger is 100% right it draged on for months but the final out come no boats are going threw! and there was money behind both sides however ,if sportsmen had banned together and stoped going to the dougalston then i believe the message would have been loud and clear it's unfortunate but sportsman like the rest of the population feel if it isn't impeding them it's no big deal! now it's all coming back!thats why i say this pfd thing from nov to april might not hurt you but it won't stop there! some moron senator will think lets have it year round!! mark my words ....same is true with salmon river no one boycotted the dougalston now half the river is posted...next place ....maybe your favorite stream or lake ...sportsmen have to ban together or none of us will be enjoying the outdoors in a few years....for those of you that think this doesn't pertain to you a few years ago when the bassmasters came to oneida several of them were forced with sheriffs to leave boats afloat, on cayuga lake attempt to fish hybiscus harbor, if you live close to baldwinsville try fishing seneca estates you can be in a boat unanchored and no other boats even docked you will be removed by local police. if you ask the DEC yes they will tell you you can but they won't put it in writting nor go to court!!!! they themselves will not issue the ticket but sheriffs and town const. sure the hell will
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if you live close to baldwinsville try fishing seneca estates you can be in a boat unanchored and no other boats even docked you will be removed by local police.
The owners will have to call authorities thats the best crappie fishing around here early in the spring. The water warms up so fast in the channel.
I'm sure nothing burns the owners more than a legally floating boat catching fish in legal water in front of there windows.
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yes it is trouble is they do call and sheriffs have no problem with giving you a ticket for trespassing
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A monster thunderstorm developed right over Altmar then ripped across Tug Hill, with the Res. at full pool, might have to RELEASE WATER SOON! See how the weather pans out, but could have east winds then storms Friday, combine that with a posible water release and look out SUNDAY! Alot of criteria for an early Salmon run are developing! we'll see!
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A monster thunderstorm developed right over Altmar then ripped across Tug Hill, with the Res. at full pool, might have to RELEASE WATER SOON! See how the weather pans out, but could have east winds then storms Friday, combine that with a posible water release and look out Sunday!
My crew got caught up in that rain storm over in Pulaski about 4:30, Man did that rain feel great!!! Been brutal hot the last couple days framing. Hope everyone is catching fish, Good Luck!!-- :)KingPerch
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Walked over to the River at 1AM to get a true River temp.. Threw out my german made thermometer for 5 minutes in the rapids, it was 72.5 degrees! Thats a little high, but not as high as I would have thought it would be after this heat wave, plus I live only 2 miles from the dam, much warmer down River! Couple days with more clouds than sun and we could cool the waters down River to 71-72, after Saturday daytime temps in the 70's and lows in the mid 50's for quite a few days, pieces could be coming together!
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Hey Trap what's your prediction on the first run! I don't consider it a run unless there moving all day and you can hook at least 30-40 fish! With all the bad weather almost every weekend, I'm predicting a monday, Tuesday the 24th, 25th run! :w00t:
I'm sticking to it! :w00t:
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i'm going one day earlier then you with aug 23 thats my birthday :) and always a good bet
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given the current action on the lake im gonna say its gonna be labor day weekend trust me for a good run when they are shootin thru the rapids all day yup labor day hey snagger wanna put a wager on it :whistling: im right i fish on ur boat ur right you fish on my boat and no im not showing you my perch spot from the spring lololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rotflol: :rotflol:
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http://blog.syracuse.com/outdoors/2009/08/wild_atlantic_salmon_found_in.html (http://blog.syracuse.com/outdoors/2009/08/wild_atlantic_salmon_found_in.html)
wild young Atlantic salmon in New York's Salmon River!
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it would be welcomed news but i think there putting a lot on a very small find
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So will the the state start stocking more Atlantics it the river? Will they shift the Pacific stocking program around to make room for raising Atlantics at the hatchery?(I think I read a while ago the Atlantics come from the Adirondack hatchery). It will be interesting to see how this progresses. They sure are fun to fish for on the Finger Lakes. At least they definitely hit a swinging fly.
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I'm sticking to it! :w00t:
hey you better stick to it WHAT'S UP???? :o :o
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hey you better stick to it WHAT'S UP???? :o :o
Hey Markie, wwhhaatttsssssssuuuuuuuuppp!! Almost time to head down to your roller and whoop on a couple Slammers some afternoon! Hope your doing well out on the Big "O"!
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I am getting stoked for the first run!! Nothing like shorts and corkers in August!
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I am going a little nuts too... I can already feel a few 'sick days' coming on within the next few weeks...
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Whats up Northwoods! How ya been man?
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SNAGGER , I WILL SEE YOU NEXT FRIDAY. I HAVE 5 RODS READY FOR ANYTHING.
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SNAGGER, Sounds like wiredstone might be on a mission!! ;D--KP
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I am getting stoked for the first run!! Nothing like shorts and corkers in August!
hey wayno wats up how u been hope too see u up the lodge soon
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Checked the ladder at the hatchery around 3 today. There were a number of Rainbows of all sizes. I didn't see much of anything else.
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Whats up Northwoods! How ya been man?
been wacking kings out on the lake they are getting the best of me have them stuck hard and running and they still are spitting the hook!!!!!
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Mark thats because you don't have enough weight behind you to fight one of them mud sharks lol j/k gimme a call we gotta get out together..... I'll show you where the big fish are lol
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they have been really good size this year a lot of 25's and 2 34's so far!!!! :o :o :o
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what's up tank??
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SNAGGER WE ARE GOING TO LOOK NEXT WEEK SO BE RREADY NO EXCUSES!!!! ;D
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nothin i got the bright idea to replace the floor in my boat in the middle of the lake season... i must have been drunk during that idea. should be back out this weekend i'll give u a call have u been north or west?
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SNAGGER WE ARE GOING TO LOOK NEXT WEEK SO BE RREADY NO EXCUSES!!!! ;D
what about me i'll be glad to show you up lol j/k call me
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SNAGGER WE ARE GOING TO LOOK NEXT WEEK SO BE RREADY NO EXCUSES!!!! ;D
Hey Markus, I walked down to the LB and theres room for me and you and 20 more of us Clowns from the roller up to where I always fish! Just got to put some big line on to turn them around before they fall over the ledge! Danbo's comin this week!
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SNAGGER , I WILL SEE YOU NEXT FRIDAY. I HAVE 5 RODS READY FOR ANYTHING.
You better be ready, I think I saw Brad Pitt going through the rollers today with a big steelie on at the LB! :w00t: I'm haunted by waters!
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what about me i'll be glad to show you up lol j/k call me
Aint looking good Now, Monster Thunderstorm complexes last night near buffalo, now Monsters Complexes out near Albany. We got Cheated, they hopped over us, probably NO water Release now! No upwelling from Southeast winds yesterday either, winds were Southwest! Hurricane Bill is going to clog up our 2nd Cold front till Sunday, when it will just bleed through! >:(
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we just got hammered here with rain/wind and non stop thunder and lightening (just north of albany)
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Until 9:00 PM today, 185 CFS
From 9:00 PM today until 9:00 PM Mon, 385 CFS
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Until 9:00 PM today, 185 CFS
From 9:00 PM today until 9:00 PM Mon, 385 CFS
THANKS FOR THE UPDATE! Must have got just enough last night! Now it's a wait and see!
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i knew the salmon would run after i left (for VA). leaving tomorrow, not back till sat or sun :'(. but at least i will get to do some saltwater fishing ;D ;D
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i knew the salmon would run after i left (for VA). leaving tomorrow, not back till sat or sun :'(. but at least i will get to do some saltwater fishing ;D ;D
JUST SOME EARLY MOVERS we are talking about, the real good early runs without crowds will be the first 3 weeks of September Fishman!
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JUST SOME EARLY MOVERS we are talking about, the real good early runs without crowds will be the first 3 weeks of September Fishman!
well thats good, gotta go finish packing. talk to you guys next week, and maybe i'll even have some pics of fish ;D
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have a good time fishman and be safe , can't wait for the fish storys :)
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You guys are always talkin about baseball on here so i said this before: im not into baseball that much BUT the Yankees are giving the Red Sox a serious beatdown right now :o......By the way the Dallas Cowboys are also winning :clapping: :thumbup_smilie:
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uh oh..another 'Boys fan..unless someone relocated from the Dallas region to here, they need to go for a refresher course about hometown teams and loyalty. It's nice to be a fan of other regional teams, but you also need to support the home product. Supporting the other guy does nothing to help our image or regional sports economy. Have a little humility instead of taking to typical route most young people do these days. They root for the popular teams instead of showing loyalty and support for the local product.
sorry if I hijacked
now..back to Salmon River.....I have a few questions because I have never fished it. I plan on making a weekday trip or two this year to give it a try.
Is it best to work areas of the river from shore or is it best to bring a boat ? I have a 16foot aluminum bass boat, would that work there or should I just hire a drift boat. Is the river best fished with traditional spinning gear or can it be managed well enough with my flyfishing gear ? How common is it for folks to use float rods ?
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uh oh..another 'Boys fan..unless someone relocated from the Dallas region to here, they need to go for a refresher course about hometown teams and loyalty. It's nice to be a fan of other regional teams, but you also need to support the home product. Supporting the other guy does nothing to help our image or regional sports economy. Have a little humility instead of taking to typical route most young people do these days. They root for the popular teams instead of showing loyalty and support for the local product.
sorry if I hijacked
now..back to Salmon River.....I have a few questions because I have never fished it. I plan on making a weekday trip or two this year to give it a try.
Is it best to work areas of the river from shore or is it best to bring a boat ? I have a 16foot aluminum bass boat, would that work there or should I just hire a drift boat. Is the river best fished with traditional spinning gear or can it be managed well enough with my flyfishing gear ? How common is it for folks to use float rods ?
if you want to keep your prop and not dent the hell out of your boat i would either fish from shore or hire a drift boat. I always wade and you can either use a fly or spinning rod it doesn't make much difference at first. i must warn you tough if you have never done it you'll need a few rips to get it down you may be skunked a few ties before actually hooking up. If using fly gear make sure its heavy enough these boys are tough on gear
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ya i would use a 9/10wt with a reel that has a good drag, if the drag is not up to par you will be going to visit fat nancy because they will destroy it. i like 17# fluro for line. floro sinks so it gets under them better then mono wich floats. my S.R. rod is a 10 wt uglystick with a 10/11 okuma integrity reel, it works real good and is pretty cheap
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niagra just a few questions, as far as the boat you can use on below the rt 3 bridge ! it's slow water with a few nice holes can aslo be used in oswego harbor for trolling .
for up river i suggest good waders and corkers. finding some nice holes to fish is not hard
are you looking to hook salmon or steelhead? time is important if salmon sept and oct if steelhead then nov on although steelies will be in river with the salmon just less people
for a noodle rod i use a 10 and half loomis or a scott but any noodle rod will work ... i'm old style and have a supply of the old dawawa 1300 all metals for reels i love the drag
for flyfishing i use my 7 wt 9 foot with a rocket taper and lots of backing if you want to use a fly reel with just mono DO NOT USE A EXPENSIVE REEL for some reason the mono shrinks and can damage the reel!
if you have any problems just pm me or snagger
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YANKEES WIN!!!!!! COWBOYS WIN!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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YANKEES WIN!!!!!! COWBOYS WIN!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hey I watched the whole game even though it was a blow out, how many of you Yankees fans did that last year without turning the channel, the Red Sox have only 2 good pichers this year and clutch batts are only average! Your from Parish, NY KP you better be a BIlls fans, SOS is from far eastern NY, he's got an excuse!
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Hey I watched the whole game even though it was a blow out, how many of you Yankees fans did that last year without turning the channel, the Red Sox have only 2 good pichers this year and clutch batts are only average! Your from Parish, NY KP you better be a BIlls fans, SOS is from far eastern NY, he's got an excuse!
LOL i have been a die hard Cowboys fan all my life i was raised to be one....if you look in every pic that i post you can see that i have my trusty Cowboys hat on ;D......besides the Bills are the only true NY team they are the only ones who actually play here......the Jersey Giants and the Jersey Jets has a nicer ring to it dont ya think :laugh:
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Hey JIGGINNIAGARA, You salmon & steelhead it out there, just different waterway is all! Mostly wading, unless salmon get stuck in the estuary from time to time! If you want to see the River in a Drift boat, just PM me I know alot of people. No need during salmon run, but it helps to learn the River quicker for steelies! People out here are in a FLOAT ROD CRAZE during steelhead season, like you guys were 8 or 10 years ago! Catch ya later!
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LOL i have been a die hard Cowboys fan all my life i was raised to be one....if you look in every pic that i post you can see that i have my trusty Cowboys hat on ;D......besides the Bills are the only true NY team they are the only ones who actually play here......the Jersey Giants and the Jersey Jets has a nicer ring to it dont ya think :laugh:
I'm with ya, I'm a Red Sox fan in upstate NY, last I looked no teams in Upstate NY!
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Hey I watched the whole game even though it was a blow out, how many of you Yankees fans did that last year without turning the channel, the Red Sox have only 2 good pichers this year and clutch batts are only average! Your from Parish, NY KP you better be a BIlls fans, SOS is from far eastern NY, he's got an excuse!
SNAGGER, I still have my autographed cards from Dorsette, Staubach, and Too Tall back when my mother's boyfriend moved there and worked at the stadium! So, YES I AM A COWBOYS FAN back then and now!! THE B.I.L.L.S. ( boy i love losing superbowls) can't do it!!! Besides they just signed a major virus T.O.!!! ;D LOL!! I watched last year when the SOX beat up on the Yankees!! All part of the game! I took it on the chin! FISH ON!!!--KP
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YANKEES WIN!!!!!! COWBOYS WIN!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
WOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHOOOOOOOOOO!! Go yanks and Cowboys :thumbup_smilie:
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:w00t:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!--KP
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Bottom of the 8th and the YANKS are spanked!!! --KP
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we are getting pretty good rain on the other side of utica whats going on up there now? I think the fish should be coming within a couple weeks if not sooner
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we are getting pretty good rain on the other side of utica whats going on up there now? I think the fish should be coming within a couple weeks if not sooner
Raining now, but the heavy stuff missed us, River temps are very warm from very warm nights! Aint looking good. Had guys out at staircase, nothing but fallfish! Getting excited about end the next weeks 60's coming! We'll check again tomorrow and Monday!
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Bluntster and I will be up Friday to dredge the river. I spent all day tying flies. Ready to go !
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hey wayno wats up how u been hope too see u up the lodge soon
ya man! I need to take an early run up and check out my 2 wheeled sleeping accomodations. Its a lot easier to work on it when the river is not calling me. Have you been on the lake much?
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SNAGGER, What are the normal temps that would allow the salmon to head upstream for this time of year? --KP
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My brother and a buddy of mine are fishing the Oswego river as we speak. He called me up and told me they are watching HUNDREDS OF SALMON JUMPING! Salmon arent my cup of tea but I figured I would post the info! Later-Dead
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SNAGGER, What are the normal temps that would allow the salmon to head upstream for this time of year? --KP
Mid 60's and below is best, but below 70 or 71 will get them going, been riding at 74-76 down river, back up to 72.5 in altmar. Once it hits 70 and below look out! Hey KP looked at the drought year(2007) diaries- September 18th river temp-62 degrees, 3 weeks later on October 7th River temp 69 degrees- HUGE HOLE in the RUN that year!
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getting another thunderstorm down here hopefully it makes it up that way
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went and fished all the rochester tribs. today ripped into a couple walters at the genny and a nice drum at allens. no salmonoids to be seen yet
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Had a friend hit Pulaski in evening, he saw 2 in a tailout, but they spooked before he could cast at them and one other salmon blast up some rapids, no hook ups! That rain missed us, but hit the tug hill watershed to help keep the Res. Full!
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You guys can have some of the rain that we have been getting here. I think we have had rain 5 days in a row. Guess we'll have to wait ofr the white water weekend to raise the water level and flush down to the lake
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You guys can have some of the rain that we have been getting here. I think we have had rain 5 days in a row. Guess we'll have to wait ofr the white water weekend to raise the water level and flush down to the lake
385cfs is plenty of water for a major run if it would cool off a bit, but Labor day is looking good man! See how cold it gets this thursday threw saturday for a minor run!
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After 2 major blowouts BECKETT "VS" SABATHIA Hope it's a good game!
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they will come.............................. they will come.......... ;D
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The boys went out again this morning, no salmon seen early, but a monster 12lb. brown was put on the stringer. It's alot cooler out this morning and had some cool rains last night, it's getting closer! As I'm writing this it just started pouring out at 67 degrees, that help cool things off!
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snagger i told you labor day weekend for the first big run :w00t:
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d**n man...
Twelve pounds of Brown Trout is pretty awesome...
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TELL YOUR BUDDY CONGRATS ON THE 12 POUND BROWN. REAL NICE FISH. WITH THE WEATHER OUTLOOK THE WAY IT IS WE WILL BE FISHING THEM HARD IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. HOPE EVERYONE DOESN'T GO STIR CRAZY. I'M ALREADY MESSING WITH THE GEAR. ;D
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ive been using my noodle rod for pike fishing with live bait ! lol ::)
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After 2 major blowouts BECKETT "VS" SABATHIA Hope it's a good game!
ANOTHER SWING AND A MISS FOR THE OL SOX! ;D OH WELL
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You wanna talk about 2 close teams!! They both are playing well! Good Luck to both!!! ;D--KP
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Becket just wasn't getting much mustard on that wicked curve...
I've never seen him give up so many DINGERS! I especially liked Matsui's bomb...
It will be interesting to see where these two teams are positioned when they meet up one last time (in the regular season) later next month back down in the Bronx...
As usual- the rivalry is never disappointing... Unlike fishing sometimes :D
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hows the rain keep missing up there thats all it does in southern herk is raincreeks blown out roads closed another mess
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hows the rain keep missing up there thats all it does in southern herk is raincreeks blown out roads closed another mess
LAKE SHADOW! In the fall and winter when the lakes warmer than the air or land we get Lake Effect. But in the daytime in the summer the lake is colder than the land, thus many sunny days and less rain than other areas! Tug hill and just south near Oneida lake gets lake breeze storms very frequently in the summer!
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Had guys out again in evening, still no salmon, so they flipped rocks and did decent on River smallmouth and some smaller trout! My prediction was wrong, always fun trying to guess well in advance though. Need some nights in the 50's with low humidity!
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Becket just wasn't getting much mustard on that wicked curve...
I've never seen him give up so many DINGERS! I especially liked Matsui's bomb...
It will be interesting to see where these two teams are positioned when they meet up one last time (in the regular season) later next month back down in the Bronx...
As usual- the rivalry is never disappointing... Unlike fishing sometimes :D
If Beckett had thrown A-rod a high fast ball instead of the sinker it would have only been a one run game! He'll be all right, when he's off, he gives up solos! He needed run support is all! If it wasn't for matsui's solo, he would have pitched the full nine!
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HEY KP HOW ABOUT THEM YANKEES ;D
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YEAH, HOW BOUT THEM YANKEES!!! ;D
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DON'T COUNT YOUR SALMON BEFORE THE HIT THE HATCHERY BUT THEM YANKEES ARE LOOKING DANG GOOD. ;D
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I may be speaking for about 500 people on here, But your avatar is making me want to get my ice gear out!!! LOL ;D--KP
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Had some guys go over to Oswego River at the dam, they hooked a few 4-5lb. browns, but thats it! some warm water fish too! NO SALMON!
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River has settled a bit to 335cfs and also cooled to 70.5 in Altmar. A decent cold front today, then a tropical system saturday and another cold spell following that Sunday, horible working weather for me, but could get salmon going soon! Noticed leaves are changing in the wetlands already!
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Until 9:00 PM Mon AUG 31, 335 CFS
HMMMMM??
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HOW MUCH OF THAT RAIN DID YOU GUYS GET UP THAT WAY. JUST REALLY GETTING ITCHY FOR THE RUN ;D
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HOW MUCH OF THAT RAIN DID YOU GUYS GET UP THAT WAY. JUST REALLY GETTING ITCHY FOR THE RUN ;D
From Altmar to the lake has only gotten light rains(1/8-1/4 inch at a time) lately, but up on the Tug recieved rain hard enough to raise the creeks a little, thus the River is up a little. We just need to COOL OFF the watershed a touch from all of the WARM weather the last 3 weeks, then it's ON! I'll take another River temp later! Last nights low was 57 - 66 and light rain now!
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Check the upcoming temps for the next few nights
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I may be speaking for about 500 people on here, But your avatar is making me want to get my ice gear out!!! LOL ;D--KP
I'VE BEEN MESSING WITH MY ICE GEAR FOR ABOUT A MONTH. I CAN'T WAIT TO GET BACK ON THE SOLID STUFF.
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may be thinking of going for a sunrise trip on Sat. to Oswego.........
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just looked at the weather and they are saying a high of 68 for saturday and a low in the upeer 40s friday night...im a little ways away from the salmon river but it should get rid of some mosquitoes i hope
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just was sharing some laughs about some pulaski adventures last year and wanted to see if any of you guys seen the guy with his 2 little girs (probably less the 10yrs old) that were showing up most of the guys on the river. man it was funny they had thier dad spotting and i bet the only ones that made it through those rapids were the ones that skated by when they were hooked up was just kind of neat to see such young people doing so good, and to top it off they were girls
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were the girls lifting/snagging? i bet a dec officer wouldnt say too much to a couple of 10 year old girls out there having a blast lifting or snagging some salmon.
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Rivers steaming good right now at 2am, outside temp already down to 48.6 degrees! :w00t: It won't be long now at 335cfs!
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were the girls lifting/snagging? i bet a dec officer wouldnt say too much to a couple of 10 year old girls out there having a blast lifting or snagging some salmon.
o ya they were power hoisting them. it seemed like everyone they drifted on they hooked up with too
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o ya they were power hoisting them. it seemed like everyone they drifted on they hooked up with too
:laugh: Thats awesome :thumbup_smilie: :clapping:
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The low temp last night was 45.8 degrees and water temp at the bridge has dropped to 69 degrees! Nobody went out this morning to check on anything in Pulaski, but been checking the route 3 bridge often, nothing staging yet except a few strays!
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should be down in the 40's again tonight and looks like rain up there tomorrow night so it should be cooling the river down a bit.
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o ya they were power hoisting them. it seemed like everyone they drifted on they hooked up with too
:nono: :nono: :police:
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Just looked at the Satelite / radar loop on the weather channel! All I can say is WOW! You got a tropical disturbance in the deep south, a old washed out front just to the southwest of here, Danny coming up the coast and a bowling ball coming down out of Western Canada! Looks like there all going to meet up over the Northeast for the weekend! 2 days of east winds will definitely upwell cold water on the Eastern Basin of the lake. The River is already at 335cfs, put some rains on top of that with the recent cooler weather and look out Sunday through Tuesday! :o
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hey snagger according to dsr website there is some fish moving in the river is there any truth to this? i wouldnt mind coming up as long as i see a few fish it is a 2.5hr drive for me
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Temp dropped to 49 degrees this morning for the second night in a row, stayed in the 60's yesterday. DSR said a few fish moved through this morning, but it is Friday( got to get the weekend $) but this time they might not be fibbing to get people there for the weekend, we'll see. I know people who are looking right now, well got to get back to work!
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hey snagger according to dsr website there is some fish moving in the river is there any truth to this? i wouldnt mind coming up as long as i see a few fish it is a 2.5hr drive for me
The East winds are just forming as we speak, once the lake flipps anything can happen, I'll let you know what, if anything happens today. Probably more like Sunday!
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congrats snag on two years being sober :clapping: :bowdown:
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where all the white women at? ;Di will be there this weekend to lambaste em after little danny hits anyone seen suck boney?
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Check the Oswego River reports, I think he's up at the dam practicing his dropshotting! ;D
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Had some guys here that fished the lower end with no luck on Salmon! As of 8:20pm still no rain here! looks like the first batch isn't even going to hit us! Actually doesn't break my heart, got alot of work done! Hey Lambaste'em, watch out Ryan might be here to Whoop on you! :w00t:
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where all the white women at? ;Di will be there this weekend to lambaste em after little danny hits anyone seen suck boney?
The only thing you'll be lambasting is a cold 40 :afro: :afro: :afro: :afro: :afro: :afro: :afro: :afro: :afro:
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Just took a temp of the River at the Altmar bridge and unfortunately it's still 70 degrees and all that heavy rain is south and east of here, only had enough rain to wet the ground. But the East winds are howling at about 15-20 mph right now. Half to wait and see!
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The rain we got last night was so little I couldn't even measure it( less than a 1/10th of an inch)! Hopefully we'll get some rain today. Winds are cranking out of the South East pretty good though and it's cooler than they predicted!
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Mornin' Snagger!! I crossed the bridge in town yesterday on my way home and noticed guys fishing the wall. So I parked and walked up to the bridge and the guys were actually catching fish. The ones that hooked up lost them, and 1 guy pulled in a brown. Was that what they were hooking up on or maybe they are hooking salmon? Good Luck on your upcoming season!! :)--KP
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How are you doing KP, I seen the same guys, didn't stop though. There was some hook ups this morning just above orange paint at the LB with salmon, nothing major, but there moving now! I had a couple of guys there and they seen 3 go through, but they showed up late! My buddy coming back from the lake just said theres 20 cars at the DSR! Still no rain, suns out!
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;D you guys are giveing me a chubby. rigs loaded. 6hr drive. im there i swear just tell me lol!!!!!!!!!! I hate waiting a whole year !!!
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AS long as you don't show up at the river with that chubby everything will be fine!!! ;D Keep up with the posts from SNAGGER, he's an outfitter from our area and he post how he sees it. Good Luck Man!!!--KP
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Was up near the mouth of the river this morning for 4 hours. We were the only ones fishing, only saw one fish surface. No hook ups at all. Nothing seemed to be moving through out of the lake. Trollers were out in full force; guy at boat launch said he was doing well in 150f.o.w
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Evening was worse than the morning for a couple of my guests with no fish moving at the LB. Another buddy of mine said there was some guys at another area with martins and fly rods he watched for a while that looked like they knew what they were doing, that couldn't get into any either! So only a very few came in, always tomorrow! Water temp-69 degrees at Altmar!
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hey snagger, any action while i was gone?
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hey snagger, any action while i was gone?
A very few came in yesterday, had guys out this morning, must not have done good, woke me up to pay me to go home early. My Ace is on the River right now, if theres one salmon in the River he'll hook it! Horrible weekend on the lake for the trollers I heard threw the grapevine!
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hey snagger is that your place right next to the bridge in town? if it was i might have talked to you today. we were looking at the smallie next to the wall. we hit that river HARD and did not even see any fish. at the hatchery there was some browns and 1 salmon we could see
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Hay Snagger i will be up Friday morning by my self. Do you still want the A/C if i bring it up its staying there. If you dont want it maby Bob can use it. Let me know. I hope the weekend is a good one im looking forward to it. Tight lines
What I want to know is who is the Ace? :-\ :-\
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(https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi273.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fjj204%2Fwiredstone%2FP8280001.jpg&hash=ee51bb4fd191a96df2233f4139a1856f) This weekend was slow but relaxing. Not often you see this on a Sat. Fished hard this weekend , and hooked one summer steelie. Also saw one king . But I did win the poker game. I always have a good time at Snaggers. The runs will be there soon. I am ready for hard water !
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The ace is the one who takes you fishing and you still dont know anything. :flex:
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The ace is the one who takes you fishing and you still dont know anything. :flex:
Dumtadumdum---Dum! I thaught you were the only ACE?
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How did the ACE make out today. Saw 2 dummies in the lower fly zone this morning . Was hoping they would push some fish down to me. But nothing .
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How did the ACE make out today. Saw 2 dummies in the lower fly zone this morning . Was hoping they would push some fish down to me. But nothing .
You fished the turn before you lefted, did you hit the LB? Had some good COLD LAKE EFFECT RAINS most of the day after you left, could get something moving out of the lake! The ACE came up empty. guess I'm going to half to put my knee brace on and show him how to do it! :w00t: Hey Black Alby when you making your Grand Entrance to the War Zone? Heard it was pretty slow down in the land of the make believe too! Water Temp still 69 degrees in Altmar today!
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You are right about that! this is definately fairyland. I might sneak away later this week. I have been waiting for yor positive post.
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Nothing in the Oswego R. Went up this Morning for a 1.5hr. Nothing moving up, nothing at the face of the dam and not a fish jumping in front of the powerhouse! Should be anyday..Water levels are good for a run if air and water temps stay cool.
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you need new glasses or to fish harder because we caught some and the puertoricans fishing crabs even got a few. big numbers? no, but if you want to catch A salmon there is some there. they were even silver
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fishermaster i know your telling it str8 bro i was down there :)
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Hey this a fishing report web site correct? So I am posting a report. There is no fish in the Oswego R this morning...Sorry dude its the truth! If you read my post you'll see that I said that there gone. I have seen them in the river one day and gone the next! What had happend was they came up and left overnight. The water is like pi$$ I bet its is still 70 plus degress.
I would like to know why guys get so mad when people post over there post!
THERE IS NO FISH IN THE OSWEGO RIVER AT THIS PRESENT TIME!!!!!
DATE AND TIME FISHED.08-31-09 7AM-8:30AM NO FISH!!!!
IF THEY WHERE THERE YESTERDAY THEY ARE GONE NOW!
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME AND GAS...
GO TO THE FAIR AND GET A CORNDOG!!
BOO HOO HOO :'(
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STRAIGHT 8, pretty cool lingo for an old timer there trap! :rotflol: I'll have to come over and visit ya soon trap, it will be a suprize, green guys probably read this too! ;D Well No fishing report today, but it did get down to 45 degrees last night and yesterdays high was only 66, REAL Cold tonight and cool again tomorrow, then it's going to slowly warm up all week with no rain for 8 days! Great working weather and great trolling weather! Not so good for River though, we'll see! Salmon have a mind of there own! Oh checked out the land of make believe report- slow!
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fished most of day yesterday and last night snag did a gaint bass in phoenix then hit the hole below utica street 2 fish :) no corn dogs i did take a trip to the dam the other day seen 3 fish hooked ....not carp either fresh silver hot n tot eaters .....just pm me bro we'll hook up (AGAIN THERES A FEW FISH IN THE RIVER ONLY AFEW!!!! ) but ya got to know how to catch them hahahahahaha
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SNAGGER,
How they making out on the lake? I'm headin up this weekend w/ the goosebuster. Sat morn going out w/ timberwolf.
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fished most of day yesterday and last night snag did a gaint bass in phoenix then hit the hole below utica street 2 fish :) no corn dogs i did take a trip to the dam the other day seen 3 fish hooked ....not carp either fresh silver hot n tot eaters .....just pm me bro we'll hook up (AGAIN THERES A FEW FISH IN THE RIVER ONLY AFEW!!!! ) but ya got to know how to catch them hahahahahaha
Hey Trap, They weren't SUCKA'S were they? :afro: You gotta show me how to lift them sometime ::)!!LOL Hey SNAGGER WHAT'S UP!!!--KP
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You fished the turn before you lefted, did you hit the LB? Had some good COLD LAKE EFFECT RAINS most of the day after you left, could get something moving out of the lake! The ACE came up empty. guess I'm going to half to put my knee brace on and show him how to do it! :w00t: Hey Black Alby when you making your Grand Entrance to the War Zone? Heard it was pretty slow down in the land of the make believe too! Water Temp still 69 degrees in Altmar today!
I was at the turn for 2 hrs, both sides and left. We went straight home after that.
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SNAGGER,
How they making out on the lake? I'm headin up this weekend w/ the goosebuster. Sat morn going out w/ timberwolf.
when the weather is decent the fishing has been great, but weather has been up and down alot lately. Good stretch of weather coming!
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Hey Trap, They weren't SUCKA'S were they? :afro: You gotta show me how to lift them sometime ::)!!LOL Hey SNAGGER WHAT'S UP!!!--KP
I think trapper wears those glasses they wear at the DSR with the fish on the lenses! :w00t:
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Gotta get me some of those shades!!!! :afro:--KP
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no snag ya got to get magnfing glasses!!!!! that way bait fish look like salmon .....darn school of buckeyes went by and i was ripping hot and tots threw them !!!!! seen a creek chub and i though new state record!!!!
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no snag ya got to get magnfing glasses!!!!! that way bait fish look like salmon .....darn school of buckeyes went by and i was ripping hot and tots threw them !!!!! seen a creek chub and i though new state record!!!!
:rotflol: :clapping:
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:rotflol: :clapping:
Hey Slayer did you end up going fishing up here this weekend? Salmon are being VERY stubborn this year, could end up being one of those years they swim around in circles in the estuaries for days on end! Man I hope not, might half to stock up on styrafoam floaters!
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Got nobody out fishing today, but last nights low was 44.7 degrees, but it was 49 by 10 pm, so a long cold night. haven't taken a temp in a couple days, I'll wait til after dark and see where we stand as far as River temp goes! With these cold nights and cool days, should be a FEW running the rapids in the mornings down River! 750 cfs this weekend, hope theres more fish than people!
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SNAGGER THANKS FOR PUTTING UP WITH ME AGAIN, WILL TRY TO GET BACK SOON WITH WIREDSTONE. NORTHWOODS WILL CATCH UP WITH YA ABOUT NOVEMBER.
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no snag ya got to get magnfing glasses!!!!! that way bait fish look like salmon .....darn school of buckeyes went by and i was ripping hot and tots threw them !!!!! seen a creek chub and i though new state record!!!!
You, Trapper, certainly make me laugh!!!!!!LOL That magnifying glass you use got fish imprinted on them? I would hate to see what OGGO POGGO would like through that magnifying glass!!! :w00t:--KP
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My buddies just stopped by and said THE PORT IS LOADED WITH KINGS, they hooked quite a few and they were jumping all over, above and below the route #3 bridge.LOOK OUT NOW!
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any sheephead???? or better yet snakeheads
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Its ON!! I can feel the hook sinking in to the flesh by the upper jaw,the sudden jerk as the line and rod just come to an abrupt stop ... and then the game is on.... the jumps, the sharking as they rip accross the top of the water , the dumb looks from the idiot next to you with the surf rod, the frantic jump from rock to rock yelling FISH ON !!! and the rip, the gain the Rip the gain, the rap around the rock and its over, or the gain steer and land!1 oh,oh oh oh my god the chubby!! Its all but here. My wife is already mad.
Sorry I got carried away for a minute. Yeh Baby!! ;D ;D
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Its ON!! I can feel the hook sinking in to the flesh by the upper jaw
or the back or the tail or the belly :whistling: :-X ;D
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any sheephead???? or better yet snakeheads
hey trap, my buddies said those kings were gobbling up there floating marshmellows like they were going out of style! Must be the Salmon needed one last sugar fix before they run the River! :w00t: IT AINT NO JOKE, THE PORT IS LOADED UP, could be the first run of the year tomorrow!
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you serious? you think they are going to run tomorrow? i might be able to come up tomorrow evening. would it be smart to use a heavier rod compared to steelhead fishing since salmon are bigger? and do i use the same rigs i did earlier this year for steelhead, (beads, plastic eggs, egg sacs, pink worms, etc?)
thanks,
fishman
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you serious? you think they are going to run tomorrow? i might be able to come up tomorrow evening. would it be smart to use a heavier rod compared to steelhead fishing since salmon are bigger? and do i use the same rigs i did earlier this year for steelhead, (beads, plastic eggs, egg sacs, pink worms, etc?)
thanks,
fishman
I use a 10 weight fly rod with 200 yards of 10-12lb. trilene big game( no fly line) on my fly reel for salmon! Oh #2 hook and a couple of #3 splits(lead) and a small piece of orange sponge!
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thanks, i've learned more, and a large part of that from you, on here then any other book or website i've ever been on. gotta love MFF ;D ;D ;D
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Also forgot, put some korkers on your creek shoes and use a set of amber colored polorized glasses!
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you serious? you think they are going to run tomorrow? i might be able to come up tomorrow evening. would it be smart to use a heavier rod compared to steelhead fishing since salmon are bigger? and do i use the same rigs i did earlier this year for steelhead, (beads, plastic eggs, egg sacs, pink worms, etc?)
thanks,
fishman
I've seen years where the salmon that enter the port will just swim around for days, sometimes a week or more before deciding to run the River, but with the cold nights and cool days we have had, I think a decent piece of them are on the move as we speak! ;D
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Hey SNAGGER, here are the pics you wanted to see of the boat, sorry its taken me so long to get them up. Its been hard getting any free time taking care of Wendy.
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If you want to see any other angles of it, let me know, and I'll take somemore pictures.
-Bunker Killer
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SNAGGER, Moose and i are really getting cabin fever to make a road trip, as you can see he is thinking of driving shotgun but by the look on his face I'm not sure he is serious, what do you think?
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I just woke up and I've got 5 messages on my machine to get on the River by mid afternoon. People I know are at the DSR and say A DECENT RUN IS ON BOyS! :clapping:
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I would also like to say, I started this thread this year because I recently quit drinking and have found out that I have low blood sugar problems, plus need operations on my knees (I have no insurance) from all the years of walking the River and doing construction! I thought it would be fun to share my knowledge of the River with others at no cost to them, I see this morning that Gottem has gotten jealous or something and created a guide thread for you all to read, your more than welcome to read it, just wanted to explain why I started my thread this spring, just wanted to meet some new friends and talk fishing with you guys, hope all of you have had fun joking around on here and have learned a few new techniques as well. HOPE YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT SEASON ON THE SALMON RIVER, ALSO REMEMBER A DECENT RUN IS ON BOYS!
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You're the MAN, Snagger... Always have been, always will be...
Your firsthand information and vast CNY fishing knowlege is a real asset to those who make the drive to Pulaski to try their hand at the 'big game' in the Salmon River...
It sounds like I should find my old high school football helmet and start putting on some armor...
THE NEW YORK SALMON SEASON HAS BEGUN!
I will be in your neck of the woods in three weeks... I am sure you will be slammed with guests and action around your place, but it would be fun to meet up if you get the chance! I'll keep you posted!
I like to catch the Steelies and Browns more than the Kings, but I can't wait that long this year! Ha!
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no worrys snagger i'm a o'douls drinker too and share information freely lol decent run lets go tack and stack...i'm like snagger been catching these fish since being a kid ,lived on the river my whole life ....i won't pertend and act like i'm great at getting river fish to hit because they simple don't !!!! i will tell you when and where i find fish .....i honestly suggest everyone just give up the ghost and stop pertending and lets all have some fun ....friggen things ain't worth eatting anyways lolllllllll FISHHHHHHHH ONNNNNNNNNN
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ALSO REMEMBER A DECENT RUN IS ON BOYS!
Couldn't have timed it any better. This workin mon-fri nuts sucks.
See you this weekend snagger, fish on!
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I would also like to say, I started this thread this year because I recently quit drinking and have found out that I have low blood sugar problems, plus need operations on my knees (I have no insurance) from all the years of walking the River and doing construction! I thought it would be fun to share my knowledge of the River with others at no cost to them, I see this morning that Gottem has gotten jealous or something and created a guide thread for you all to read, your more than welcome to read it, just wanted to explain why I started my thread this spring, just wanted to meet some new friends and talk fishing with you guys, hope all of you have had fun joking around on here and have learned a few new techniques as well. HOPE YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT SEASON ON THE SALMON RIVER, ALSO REMEMBER A DECENT RUN IS ON BOYS!
Hey SNAGGER I dint know what sparked this post of yours, But keep posting! your the only pro on this site i believe. As far as being sober for 2 years :clapping: :thumbup_smilie: I only drank with you in 95 and Ive been on the wagon almost since then its been so long I dont even remember when i quit
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no worrys snagger i'm a o'douls drinker too and share information freely lol decent run lets go tack and stack...i'm like snagger been catching these fish since being a kid ,lived on the river my whole life ....i won't pertend and act like i'm great at getting river fish to hit because they simple don't !!!! i will tell you when and where i find fish .....i honestly suggest everyone just give up the ghost and stop pertending and lets all have some fun ....friggen things ain't worth eatting anyways lolllllllll FISHHHHHHHH ONNNNNNNNNN
You know it trapper, I shoot straight from the hip. Would never steer anybody wrong and won't do any pretending, unless we are just joking around! If my guests are on a HOT hole, might give a report a little late out of respect for there hard work, but will always try to give as much information as I can. In a couple of weeks it will be busy, so reports will be short and to the point! SHOULD HAVE A GOOD REPORT LATER!
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Hey SNAGGER, How do you like that face on The MooseMan?
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Hey SNAGGER I dint know what sparked this post of yours, But keep posting! your the only pro on this site i believe. As far as being sober for 2 years :clapping: :thumbup_smilie: I only drank with you in 95 and Ive been on the wagon almost since then its been so long I dont even remember when i quit
You know I have no EGO problem ,but alot of people up here do! I'm always learning and know alot, just like sharing it without getting stepped on!
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You know I have no EGO problem ,but alot of people up here do! I'm always learning and know alot, just like sharing it without getting stepped on!
I know, Remember that time Moose and I called you from Long Island Sound for a weather report because we didn't trust the weather man?
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Hey SNAGGER, How do you like that face on The MooseMan?
Can't see the Mooseman pic's, but the boat looks great!How many feet is it?
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Can't see the Mooseman pic's, but the boat looks great!How many feet is it?
Its 21feet
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SNAGGER, Keep the posts coming. Since I joined MFF, I have learned more about salmon and steelhead fishing in the last year than I have my whole life. Thanks to the select few who post techniques and telling about how to fish the Salmon River makes me want to fish it more often. The joking around, catching fish and making friends is what it's all about. Thank you for all the info!!! Now, let's go catch some fish!!!! Trapper, where are you!!! ::) --KP :)
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Hey SNAGGER, when you see the Mooseman pic you ll also See that i have that boat in the back of the shop
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no worrys snagger i'm a o'douls drinker too and share information freely lol decent run lets go tack and stack...i'm like snagger been catching these fish since being a kid ,lived on the river my whole life ....i won't pertend and act like i'm great at getting river fish to hit because they simple don't !!!! i will tell you when and where i find fish .....i honestly suggest everyone just give up the ghost and stop pertending and lets all have some fun ....friggen things ain't worth eatting anyways lolllllllll FISHHHHHHHH ONNNNNNNNNN
YOU ARE PRETTY GOOD AT WILLOW TREE BRANCH SNAGGING THOUGH!!!!!! LOL!!! :w00t: FISH ON!!!!--KP
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IF I CAN SNAG A WILLOW BRANCH AT 40 YRDS THINK WHAT I COULD DO TO A SALMON IN THE RAPIDS :) IF SNAGGING WAS LEGAL OF COURSE
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I fished the Salmon today all day. I started below the black hole and worked my way up and then back down. I saw 4 or 5 fish move very quickly into the black hole from the tailout. Then below the staircase saw 2 and hooked/lost one. I then drove over to the ballpark and worked up the rapids to the 81 bridge seeing a pair of 2 and then a stragler. Then went around the pineville area and saw nothing. Then drove to the trestle. Above I could see a fish and was gone when I got below. There was a guy who hooked 1 in the trestle while I was there but the fish surfaced once and that was it. I pretty much hit the same spots on the way back but only saw one more fish in the afternoon.
Douglaston had about 25 cars or so and the rt. 3 bridge had a dozen or so people on it with lots of fish below but no hook ups while I was watching. I know the DSR reported moving fish today but it doesn't seem as if they moved much above the black hole as of 4pm. I was surprised at how few anglers were on the water today.
Anybody else with better luck?
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Snagger- keep those reports coming man! I like the low down and honest reports you give. There might be another thread about the river but it doesn't have your point of view!
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Shmuckey You so Goood!
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Ya definitely keep em coming this will give me an accurate report to go on when we make our spurt of the moment trip out there...Thank you very much
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Snagger- keep those reports coming man! I like the low down and honest reports you give. There might be another thread about the river but it doesn't have your point of view!
I would say you were the KING of the RIVER today fishingjason, I had no guests today, so all of my info came from just people I barely know & guide hear say! Once a year I get FOOLED by bogus info, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me! Me and my good friend dave and another friend fished the lower black from 5pm til dark and we saw 1 fish! If there was pods going threw DSR, they must have taken an Airplane upstream over us, because we didn't see them! Those fish are still in the port in good numbers, but not many moved up as far as the lower black yet! I also talked too our local warden, and he hadn't seen any fish either! They will start moving in good numbers, but TODAY wasn't that day. I hate bogus info, me and dave could have been working! >:(
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Snag, isn't the little black DSR property now?
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high pressure sucks!!!! last night oswego was dead except my good buddy the sheephead i vote we make the sheephead a our national fish headed to upper river this morning i'll bang some panfish and bass
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ya i dont get out the SR way but i do fish teh western tribs like oak and burt. NOTHING IN THE CREEKS YET! i was expecting to see one or two but i saw nothing but a huge carp. i stood their with those cold nights i was like their has to be a few straglers up here. but their was once again nothing! the pier action has hardly started yet either. it feels like its a week late now. but then again every year its either the middle of september or the end of august last year end of august. i hope its not a short fast season this year!
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Is Browns camp grounds still in operation next to the tressel hole in Altmar?
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Is Browns camp grounds still in operation next to the tressel hole in Altmar?
Yeah Browns is still around, Dougel passed on years ago though!
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Snag, isn't the little black DSR property now?
Yep it's a shame, most of the lower black area has beem leased by DSR. I was standing at the top of rapids, that he doesn't own. Good place to tell if theres a run or not, but not much area to roam if there is no run! I did wander down below to see if fish were moving and got escorted out! Yesterday I wasn't fishing for fun, just wanted to know what to tell my friends and guests for this weekend!
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maybe no salmon boys but the eyes are starting to pick up and the smallmouth are doing the fall thing.... i'm tossing small jigs for panfish and yanking some smallies :)
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im pretty sure with the river going to 750 friday it will pull a fair amount of fish in
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Thursday Fishing Report: just talked to my best friend Dave( who in all the years I've fished this River can see and Lift fish better than ANYBODY I know) said he did not see any fish at the LB rapids or the lower Staircase rapids, plus he talked to a guy who walked down a mile from the black hole and he didn't see or hooked any fish either! My buddy is now on the RT. 3 bridge and said it is GREAT, theres 3 boats and about 20 other guys there. He's hooked about 20 in a couple of hours with a legal 4 foot leader and marshmellows! says theres tons of fish swimming in circles down there, must be the DSR fish dropped back :unsure: :unsure:
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im pretty sure with the river going to 750 friday it will pull a fair amount of fish in
Begginning to Wonder, I hope so!
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Its ON!! I can feel the hook sinking in to the flesh by the upper jaw,the sudden jerk as the line and rod just come to an abrupt stop ... and then the game is on.... the jumps, the sharking as they rip accross the top of the water , the dumb looks from the idiot next to you with the surf rod, the frantic jump from rock to rock yelling FISH ON !!! and the rip, the gain the Rip the gain, the rap around the rock and its over, or the gain steer and land!1 oh,oh oh oh my god the chubby!! Its all but here. My wife is already mad.
Sorry I got carried away for a minute. Yeh Baby!! ;D ;D
are you my twin, :laugh: cause thats just the way i feel!!!!!!
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snagger you get my vote to keep posting too!!!! i get so pumped up with even the thought that its time. hope i get to run into you sometime this season. tight lines and FISH Uah ohhh offff. rolled another one!!!
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SNAGGER FOR PRESIDENT (or at least mayor of altmar) :flag: :bowdown: :bowdown: :rotflol: :rotflol: :flag:
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SNAGGER FOR PRESIDENT (or at least mayor of altmar) :flag: :bowdown: :bowdown: :rotflol: :rotflol: :flag:
got my vote. well, you would if i could vote. where would you suggest going this weekend? planning on trying sat morning and maybe sunday as well. what would be the best bait? thanks
fishman
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Snagger for Pres........??? whoa, maybe I should go back and read the last couple of pages I missed since I last logged on...........
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Little Dave said tonight just before dark that alot of COHO'S showed up in the port! Not getting as cold at night and days are warming, I hope the 750cfs gets them going or it will be a Zoo at the Port this weekend! I would love to see a good old fashion Ball Park Banaza! Kings & Coho's & a few Browns and Steelies mixed together! It's cool when you drift through a run and never know what's going to come leaping out of the river!
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Snagger dont forget to put my 10 lb line on the counter for the morning i wil be in about 6. see ya then :o
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got my vote. well, you would if i could vote. where would you suggest going this weekend? planning on trying sat morning and maybe sunday as well. what would be the best bait? thanks
fishman
When the water goes up Friday at 9pm, the 750cfs won't hit the port for another 6 hours, say 3 am, daybreak is 6:34am. So the fish will get 3 1/2 hours of high water in the dark( hopefully enough to get them moving in full force), once its light out it is questionable whether they keep running or there is a break in the run til the following evening! Temps in the River are in the mid 60's and rising and with daytime temps in the mid 70's and sunny Saturday they might make it to the lower staircase by Saturday evening in those weather conditions, if it's a Good Run look for them between the ball park and the papermill on Sunday! A Second Run could be at the Lower Black / Staircase by Sunday am too! Then by Monday both runs will be spread out together all throughout the lower end as far up as maybe the Glass hole! Some of the stronger leader fish and especially coho's could make it up to Pineville by monday in very spreadout small numbers! ALL DEPENDS on how many will leave the port and when! Should be interesting! Bait, I use egg sac netting, it gets stuck in there teeth! ;) Hope everyone who fishes the River this Holiday weekend has a great time, I know we will no matter how many come in! ;D
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snagger you get my vote to keep posting too!!!! i get so pumped up with even the thought that its time. hope i get to run into you sometime this season. tight lines and FISH Uah ohhh offff. rolled another one!!!
You have to goto Altmar Outfitters lodge in the PM he is the one that looks like Charles Atlas. My ex says hes not quite evolved.( If ya know him ya got to Roast him a little)
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You have to goto Altmar Outfitters lodge in the PM he is the one that looks like Charles Atlas. My ex says hes not quite evolved.( If ya know him ya got to Roast him a little)
:D sounds like he a hard one to miss! what about spots to stay? i / we are looking for a new spot to camp this year? or maybe a room if the price is right.
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just seen that the river goes back down to 335cfm at 9pm sunday i wonder if this will have any effect on the run that comes up during the weekend.
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just seen that the river goes back down to 335cfm at 9pm sunday i wonder if this will have any effect on the run that comes up during the weekend.
It should pool up the ones still in the river.
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thanks for the weekend fishing guide snagger, something came up for saturday so were planning on going up sunday. think morning or afternoon would be better? and you said between the ballpark and papermill. is the the papermill off of route 2A? (i'm loking at the DEC salmon river page http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/37926.html (http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/37926.html) and the fishing rights map http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/fish_marine_pdf/r7salrivpfr.pdf (http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/fish_marine_pdf/r7salrivpfr.pdf)). is the ballpark off of maple ave? sorry i just don't know the river well. thanks
fishman
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thanks for the weekend fishing guide snagger, something came up for saturday so were planning on going up sunday. think morning or afternoon would be better? and you said between the ballpark and papermill. is the the papermill off of route 2A? (i'm loking at the DEC salmon river page http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/37926.html (http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/37926.html) and the fishing rights map http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/fish_marine_pdf/r7salrivpfr.pdf (http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/fish_marine_pdf/r7salrivpfr.pdf)). is the ballpark off of maple ave? sorry i just don't know the river well. thanks
fishman
go across 2a bridge and theres a parking area right next to the rail road tracks, walk them down , I like it up above in the rapids towards clarks falls. The ball park is the first right after the railroad tracks on 13 in pulaski coming from 81, raps back around to the Short bridge!
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Had one guy out this morning, he landed 1 for 3 in 2 hours at the LB, alot of us will be out this weekend, HAVE FUN BOYS! :w00t:
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Snag, I might show up with Mr Sparkly for some action on those kings! :w00t:
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Snag, I might show up with Mr Sparkly for some action on those kings! :w00t:
Better put single hooks on him! :w00t: Got to go!
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September 05, 8:38 a.m: Today is the day you have been waiting for!! As of first light the DSR is stacked with a BIG run of fresh KINGS!! Anglers from the Spring Hole down are enjoying multiple hookups. The fish are moving fast and the rest of the run should see action throughout the day.
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i read that also. but i have learned not to trust anything they write. i have made trips for nothing before based off the info they said
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the douglaston is the worse information on salmon river and i would not trust them with a nerf ball mush less planing a trip!!!! i'm sure snagger can give better info i'm headed back to the oswego river in a few minutes after i eat lunch
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Checked in with my buddy who is on the river now.
He has been there since daylight and saw one king on a guys stringer above the black and that's it so far.
Hopefully Snagger is fileting so many fish he does not have any time to report?! :-\
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the douglaston is the worse information on salmon river and i would not trust them with a nerf ball mush less planing a trip!!!! i'm sure snagger can give better info i'm headed back to the oswego river in a few minutes after i eat lunch
what do you expect if they leave crappy report who is going to spend their 30.00
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Well as expected, all my guys rolled in at different times last night, most hadn't seen each other in a while so it was a Giant party of course, some hit the river around 9am, but most are just getting going again with massive hangovers. I went to bed first at 3;30am! Got 2 reports so far, Port is still loaded! Had a few guys at the LB and Lower Staircase, only a few fish as of 1pm We will all be somewhere this evening Cutting off the run of the century coming out of DSR! Oh had 4 guys out with Northwooods on the Lake , put 9 in the boat before noon! Try to keep you updated!
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Just got word, they made it to the LB, I'm on my way down! :w00t:
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Saw quite a few fisherman in Port Ontario today. Only a few caught. What's up Snagger!!! :)--Kp
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The Lb was absolutely SILLY from 5pm til dark, there was 21 of us from my house, at one point we had 12 on at once, 6 on at once was the norm! The kings were very big and moving fast. I hooked 40 in 2 hours, put 3 big hens on the roap quick, we brought back I don't know how many. It was an abolute roit, everyone had a blast One of those great evening flurries! These fish are moving fast could be way up river by tomorrow, plus more spread out, still alot in the port to refill the LB or the staircase again!
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now thats the report i've been waiting for
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sweet! thanx for report snag!
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great snagger
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SNAGGER I'M ON MY WAY
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SNAGGER I'M ON MY WAY
Hey those Salmon were moving very fast, make your own judgement on where you think they'll make it to, but theres alot more in the port that could come AGAIN TOMORROW! Maybe I'll get to meet you! I'm going to wonder down in the afternoon to try to cut off the second run at the LB, if that don't pan out, I'll go up to the ball park for todays push!
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Got guys every where in lower end. Yesterdays Monster evening pod has moved up river and spread out quite a bit, fishing is still good, but that Awesome flurry from last night will have to be put in my memory til the next one! Last I heard it's really crowded at the LB, theres hook ups, but nothing special. My guys hooked the Most today at the Papermill! Had guys at the ball park that did decent earlier, but was slowing down when they left! Also had guys check the port and she's pretty empty! So looks like one good push of fish came yesterday and now it will just keep moving up river and spreadout, with probably no runs behind it!
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Just got word, they made it to the LB, I'm on my way down! :w00t:
Snagger, I know this is probably going to sound stupid, - I'm familiar with some areas on the river like" DSR" but what's the "LB"?
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I think he is refering to the lower black hole.
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Hey has anyone heard anything about the Port being posted, my buddy in a bass boat said a drift boat with the name Trophy angler came down and kicked all the boats out that were above the Rt. 3 bridge! said there was No fishing above the Rt. 3 bridge! Is there any truth to this? >:(
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I think he is refering to the lower black hole.
Yes we were fishing in that short area that DSR doesn't own just below the tailout of the big black, heard today that the DSR guys wouldn't let anybody come down into there area to land there fish. They did last year! Last year we would go down with a fish, then go back up to where we were fishing in Public water! This River is Really getting greedy and grubby guys!
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Hey has anyone heard anything about the Port being posted, my buddy in a bass boat said a drift boat with the name Trophy angler came down and kicked all the boats out that were above the Rt. 3 bridge! said there was No fishing above the Rt. 3 bridge! Is there any truth to this? >:(
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Hey has anyone heard anything about the Port being posted, my buddy in a bass boat said a drift boat with the name Trophy angler came down and kicked all the boats out that were above the Rt. 3 bridge! said there was No fishing above the Rt. 3 bridge! Is there any truth to this? >:(
If he did thats an A-Hole!!!
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boy snagger i would say no but i'm not sure after the bs we took over being on barcley land! i don't see how one could be stoped in there as thats nav water for many people
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Hey has anyone heard anything about the Port being posted, my buddy in a bass boat said a drift boat with the name Trophy angler came down and kicked all the boats out that were above the Rt. 3 bridge! said there was No fishing above the Rt. 3 bridge! Is there any truth to this? >:(
He had better be a DEC officer!!, friends and I are thinking of fishing up there tommorrow!!! :flex: :whistling:
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Fished this morning about the rte 11 bridge and the staircase. Staircase was good first light and the pocket water above the rte 11 was good until 9:30am. All fish where fresh and bright! Heard ball park was good all morning long. Was thinking of trying the refrigerator hole tomorrow.
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snagger i will be up on wednesday 2 stay through the 14th call me! glad u and the boys smashed them !!!!!wish i was there.wont miss the next 1
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fished papermill today, basically no luck. dad landed a 4 in smallmouth. lost a big one near the end. i now have a new respect for these fish. today was the first time i had solidly hooked into a big fish in the salmon river. at first i thought i had snagged the bottom, then after a second or two, it ran across the river, jumped and snapped the line. i have never felt any fish so strong before, it really felt like i had hooked a car, i had so little control of it. i'm hooked on the salmon river even more than i was before!
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I went to the papermill the last 4 hours of light and forgot how covered up the runs get with 750cfs. Everybody walking out said it was slow, but after a little picking around I found a great run that was absolutely on FIRE. I walked from the bridge to clarks falls and back before I found it, but once I found it, I hooked 42 fish in 3 hours without having to step off the same rock( let the fish come to me). Even though I was hooking them in 3 feet of water they were all multiple jumpers! My hands are all line burned up pretty good I'll tell you! Well good luck Monday boys! ;D
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oh, and anybody know of a spot to get good waders for a good price? ripped mine today
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oh, and anybody know of a spot to get good waders for a good price? ripped mine today
We are all still wearing shorts with cleats on our sneakers ( were redneck lifters) but if you need them, Jimmy at All Season's Sports is a good guy and has good prices!
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Your not going to believe this, but I just walked over to the Altmar Bridge and theres about 20 kings under the street lamp and they were busting threw the rapids. they got here in 2 days, now that's really moving! Could fish anywhere tomorrow, even up here!
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fish i think wal mart actually carrys hodgeman ! might want to check there me personally in warmer weathe i perfer hip boots over neo's save them for water in the 40's plus i hate the feeling of neo's i feel restricted. i got a pair of hodgemen hip boots this last year very light weight and easy to walk in i love em for streams ....splashing a little cold water on my butt in the river is a part of salmon fishing :rotflol:
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just getting ready to leave for the river now. should have woke up earlier but hell i ts my day off
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hey snag it is now silly season it's time for you to make the donuts , I'll have stop up , buddy got 14 lb. brown wed. and sent me pic just to stir my blood a little , while i was working , I also see hooked up and i are the same but different person , must be a site problem , not bitching at you hooked up ,crap happens !!
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hey snag it is now silly season it's time for you to make the donuts , I'll have stop up , buddy got 14 lb. brown wed. and sent me pic just to stir my blood a little , while i was working , I also see hooked up and i are the same but different person , must be a site problem , not bitching at you hooked up ,crap happens !!
Hey Filet should have stopped up and went with me, would have been a hoot! The run I was in yesterday, I hadn't fished in 15 years, had a new guy with me and wanted to get away from people, never saw another person for 3 hours! Had alot of tailwalkers, some real Monster orange Males in the 24-29lb range! That was probably it for me, had a great weekend with my friends, now back to work! Stop by some time Freddy I need a few tips from the Real Master! :bowdown: Got some great pic's and video's if I knew how to load them on here!
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snagg, just curious, where you above or below the bridge? saw (and heard) some people as we were leaving that sounded like the were doing really good just downstream from where we were.
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Hey Fishman I gave you a PM! Just heard the Trestle is all LOADED UP, plus they been blasting the rapids all morning up here at the Altmar Bridge! Might half to go up and fish with the one arm bandit for a while! ;D
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Yo Snagger, Its Robs Buddy, was up last year when you made us the best meal I ever had up there fishing. Waldow fishfry. Dont know how much I'll be up this year due to work(or lack of it) but loving your reports, Keep'em coming.
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Im just frothing at the mouth wanting to be there too... Hey Smuckey how did dahmer do?
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Fished in the town this morning above Rte11 hooked four in the isolator hole this morning. Talked with skeeter for an hour and half,showed me some tricks and told me we where to go and Snagger as well. Fished a hole just above Skeeters place hooked 7 landed one! They where still moving at 11:45am.
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Im just frothing at the mouth wanting to be there too... Hey Smuckey how did dahmer do?
I saw Jeffrey dammer up near clarks falls nawing on a dead salmon, actually he's going for the Charles Manson look this year with that crazy looking goat! :w00t: Then fished my way down to another spot and never saw him again! He missed out on some good action, because he let his son go swimming then the kid was freezing to death! You missed a GREAT RUN! Catch ya later Man!
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Fished in the town this morning above Rte11 hooked four in the isolator hole this morning. Talked with skeeter for an hour and half,showed me some tricks and told me we where to go and Snagger as well. Fished a hole just above Skeeters place hooked 7 landed one! They where still moving at 11:45am.
Hey carpie did you fish that run along the rip rap behind the Cemetary! it's a great spot if you have permission to fish above Skeeters!
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Snag, sounds like you are havin a blast up there! Great job on the successful weekend! Startn to get into them eyes again. Might have to come up for a quick fix on some salmon! Where da suckas at? :afro: Later-Deadeyez
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No didn't fish that far down by the Cemetary. I was up by the two islands up above Skeeters place. There where three Bears sitting in lawn chairs on the small island waiting for fish to run by. I was fishing the first hole up from the riffles. Some of the fish where holding in a small pocket and some where just blowing right by. There where some trains I hooked into but with ten pound test leader where was I going! I will be fishing that spot again! Have to get some 15lb Maxima very soon! Then I'll have a chance. 10lb Seagar not cutting it right now!!! ALL FISH WHERE STILL VERY SILVER!
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Where da suckas at? :afro: Later-Deadeyez
All us SUCKAS were down to the Trestle having a TRESTLE POOL BANANZA! :flex: A couple guests hooked over a 80! GREAT LAST DAY TO THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND!
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hey snagger im sure i saw you today i was at trestle too. i hooked about 40 fish it was a good day. maybe were you the one who tried to net the fish for me and it broke off?
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hey, what do you guys suggest for line? strength and type?
thanks
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hey snagger im sure i saw you today i was at trestle too. i hooked about 40 fish it was a good day. maybe were you the one who tried to net the fish for me and it broke off?
I think that was my buddy chris R. who netted your fish, my buddy dave was lighting the hole up below him! If you were on the drive in side! I was the guy on the Pilon that had to take a hook out of my buddy Ryans head with pliers with cut off red sox shirt on. Wow what a bloody mess that was! ;D I was struggling today compared to my buddies! Been a couple of years since I fished for Salmon in the holes!
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Went down to elis cove to see if anything was around, in the last hour had fish coming through a couple at a time every five minutes or so. They were moving very very quick upstream. Had the place all to myself and only hooked up once and it was over quick as it began.
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Went down to elis cove to see if anything was around, in the last hour had fish coming through a couple at a time every five minutes or so. They were moving very very quick upstream. Had the place all to myself and only hooked up once and it was over quick as it began.
whats up Jrock, not out on the lake anymore?
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hey, what do you guys suggest for line? strength and type?
thanks
We use those 1/4lb. spools of trilene big game clear (10-15lb. depending on water height) most of us were using 12lb. this weekend! Good line for the money! Get 1500 yds of 10 and 1175 yds of 12!
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Still fishing the lake but had a couple hours to hit the river. I like fishing the river before it gets crowded. Took a couple friends from conn. out on the big lake saturday night and i fished a blank screen until the last hour before dark and it was on after that no big fish mostly around the 20lb range with a couple bonus cohos. I figured by next weekend the zoo will be here in town so i am going to try and get a few days in on the river. I take it that your oneida fishing is going to have to wait until the hard water now. Keep on slaying them snagger maybe i will see you down there this week.
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You still got a couple of weeks til it gets crowded, probably around the 19th! After the 25th is the real ZOO! These are kind of bonus Fish and also wasted fish! This run has alot of similarities to the 94 & 98 runs that came in this strong, this early! The whole River has fish in it from end to end and in good numbers! Plus theres more in the port again and more waiting just off shore! Believe me I don't want this many in, this early! Going to be alot of floaters, plus no crowds to make money off of after this weekend! Stop over sometime! catch ya later!
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You still got a couple of weeks til it gets crowded, probably around the 19th! These are kind of bonus Fish and also wasted fish! This run has alot of similarities to the 94 & 98 runs that came in this strong, this early! The whole River has fish in it from end to end and in good numbers! Plus theres more in the port again and more waiting just off shore! Believe me I don't want this many in, this early! Going to be alot of floaters, plus no crowds to make money off of after this weekend! Stop over sometime! catch ya later!
Well I was at the trestle Pool today with Snagger (I was the one hooking the most fish) I was using a rubber legged pheasant tail purple catis feel ya fly, that was the ticket! I hooked over 50 fish but for some reason they were coming in backwards :o I was curious if it was because I was not in the fly fishing section or if I was not in the DSR where the fish actually bite :w00t: Can anyone on here or from SC help solve my problem? Maybe if I pay to fish an area where my tax dollars stock the river they will bite? :wacko:
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You know it's funny you should say that Lambaste em. I was at the papermill and after hooking a pile of kings, I got bored, so I took all my weight off and started flinging Arricafelious caddis flies in a nice riffle. The strangest thing I ever seen kept happening, as the flie drifted threw the pod of kings they would get really mad and swatt at my fly with there tails, resulting in alot of foul hooked fish. :w00t: As much as I didn't want to do it, I was forced to put my weight and sponge back on so as to get them in the mouth! I wonder how those guys down at the DSR keep things like this from happening!
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You know it's funny you should say that Lambaste em. I was at the papermill and after hooking a pile of kings, I got bored, so I took all my weight off and started flinging Arricafelious caddis flies in a nice riffle. The strangest thing I ever seen kept happening, as the flie drifted threw the pod of kings they would get really mad and swatt at my fly with there tails, resulting in alot of foul hooked fish. :w00t: As much as I didn't want to do it, I was forced to put my weight and sponge back on so as to get them in the mouth! I wonder how those guys down at the DSR keep things like this from happening!
So we all should pay a politician to fish an area where our tax dollars spawn and raise these beautiful fish (wonder why everything says made in china) :afro:
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Oh forgot to say earlier, all story telling and ribbing a side, it was a great weekend, but I've had to pick up trash just about everywhere I've fished. People are getting a little piggy again, try to pick up your fishing line and empty water bottles or they'll have more excuses to post more property! Keep it clean boys! :D
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now snagger i had to pick up a bag of trash myself! I KNOW IT COULDN'T have been left by REAL FISHERMAN!!!! so my advice everyone carry a bag in your pocket ......take a few seconds and toss some trash in the bag ....i know were to good of people to leave our outdoors a pig pen ;D
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hey, what do you guys suggest for line? strength and type?
thanks
i like 20lb berkley vanish the fish dont dodge it too bad and it is really strong. the only thing that sucks is breaking it off when you get a snag.
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Snagger. I've been following ur posts the past two weeks. and decided to take my father up to pulaki this past weekend. We only had saturday to fish. This was the very first time i'd had ever gone salmon fishing, and my father' first time to the river in over 20 years. We had a blast. We fished below the black hole, on the bend (other people there called it dead mans curve) until around 1pm. ran out of hooks due to snags. so we went to the tackle shop got some hooks, got lunch and spent an hour or so gettin familiar with the river. We heard that DSR was insane and they were running up fast. When we got to the black hole That bend was packed. and it looked like you guys were having a blast. We fished the black hole until an hour before dark. They were there, we could see them jump. but we couldnt get a solid hook up. i got off work at 1130 friday night, got loaded and spent 5 1/2 hrs driving to get there. and i am hooked. i have to thank you for your honest info on here. I'm glad i could find guys on here that knew the river and could give me the info i needed to take my father fishing for the first time in years. I'll be following your posts and we'll be on the river in force the next time. lol Thanks
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Snagger. I've been following ur posts the past two weeks. and decided to take my father up to pulaki this past weekend. We only had saturday to fish. This was the very first time i'd had ever gone salmon fishing, and my father' first time to the river in over 20 years. We had a blast. We fished below the black hole, on the bend (other people there called it dead mans curve) until around 1pm. ran out of hooks due to snags. so we went to the tackle shop got some hooks, got lunch and spent an hour or so gettin familiar with the river. We heard that DSR was insane and they were running up fast. When we got to the black hole That bend was packed. and it looked like you guys were having a blast. We fished the black hole until an hour before dark. They were there, we could see them jump. but we couldnt get a solid hook up. i got off work at 1130 friday night, got loaded and spent 5 1/2 hrs driving to get there. and i am hooked. i have to thank you for your honest info on here. I'm glad i could find guys on here that knew the river and could give me the info i needed to take my father fishing for the first time in years. I'll be following your posts and we'll be on the river in force the next time. lol Thanks
THAT WAS PRETTY INSANE THERE ON SATURDAY AFTERNOON, WASN"T IT? I had a red sox cutoff on, I was in the middle of all those other lifters, sometimes had to cast over someones shoulders to hook them! :w00t:
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If your one of those guys that think salmon bite or are just plain stubborn and enjoy hooking 2 fish instead of 40, theres plenty of forums around for that sort of nonsense! GLAD I COULD HELP YOU PIG PEN! :thumbup_smilie:
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It was an awsome first time experence. I kept an eye on everyone down the river. I think i could've saw ya down there. it was pretty packed. haha. i was waidin in jeans wearin a Montauk, NY Tee. Man you guys got it goin on up there. that was i have to say by far the best river experence of my life. alot diff from steelheadin in Ohio. lol Oh i know they're inactive feeding comming up. Just dont have to experence.. yet :flex:
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Tuesday Sept. 8th fishing Report: Only have 2 custumers out fishing today! They hit pulaski early just to check it, few milling around in places, but not enough to even put the pole together for. They did good walking down below the sportsmans in the slate runs and a couple of holding pools! I took a drive over to the Trestle pool, it went from 400 fish and 100 guys of yesterday to maybe 150 fish and a dozen guys today! Alot less hook ups, but it was still OK. Must be alot of fish have ran up above the Altmar bridge now into the petting zoo's! Nobody hardly around anywhere, good time for the River to take a break! Good luck out there!
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I think he is refering to the lower black hole.
Hey flyswatter when you coming up this way! how did you come up with that name? ;D
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was talking to someone else who has fished the river for a little while and they talked about rarely actually landing the fish. so i was wondering, roughly what percentage of the fish you hook do you actually land?
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hey lambaste em i heard the black n purple darting nymph is a real good fly u should try it some time i will show u how too tie it next time im up :afro: :afro: :afro: :bowdown: :bowdown: :police: :police: :police:
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When does the Hatchery open? Got to get my son up to see that...
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Hay flyswatter welcome aboard glad to see you are at least keeping up with whats going on. You missed a grate weekend we had a blast at the LB and the Ball Park must have hooked over 40 for the weekend. Not a bad way to start the season. Let me know when you have time to go and you can drive up with me. Unless you want to put some miles on your new truck then you can drive! I will call you later in the week
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Hay Snagger had a blast this weekend cant wate till the nex run. Keep us posted and hide my zukes till next trip dont let them get ruined i want to stuff them.
Also we need to get flyswatter up to the lodge the season so keep hinting at a trip!!!!! ;)
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When does the Hatchery open? Got to get my son up to see that...
It was open this weekend. I went there Fri, only a few browns at that time, sure things have changed.
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was talking to someone else who has fished the river for a little while and they talked about rarely actually landing the fish. so i was wondering, roughly what percentage of the fish you hook do you actually land?
I like the initial burst of energy they give you and a few good jumps hopefully, then I break them off unless theres not many around, then I'll fight them out a bit! These fish were strong and water was big, I'd say 1 landed for every 6 hooked was the norm with us guys!
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When does the Hatchery open? Got to get my son up to see that...
I think they start taking eggs when the water temp goes below 54 degrees, usually first week of october!
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hopefully ill see u tomoaw snaggerr ;D
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rate of hook ups to landed fish depends on a lot of factors from how much room you have to your personal abilities, a few suggestions good line fresh spool! take the time to ty good knotts! check your leader for abrasion! sharp hooks! might sound stupid but your hooking a bigggg fish on light tackle,another suggestion if you have a spare spool for you reel take it,if not take extra line, a king will head downstream and spool you in a heartbeat (little trick open your bale sometimes they will stop and turn....sometimes)....good luck and have fun
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thats why you need 20lb vanish and a 10wt ugly stick, when they are going too far you just put the brakes on. if i cant turn them im either straightening the hook out or taking a piece of them with it
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lol i never got beyond 10 lb lol and salmon i use the loomis or my 7 wt . use the scott for steel head
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I use a 8 wt. with 12 # and sometimes I let he line limp after the initial run. Alot of times they will return to the hole and you can tire them out. :o
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20 lb is good til ya get snagged and have to break it :flex:
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yea and when 20lb dosent break and what ever u are snagged on pulls loose or ur hook straightens watch out! b/c all that energy is being recoiled personally i don't like a 1/2 oz of lead or more fly back at me at 300FPS :o :blink:
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Hey flyswatter when you coming up this way! how did you come up with that name? ;D
Not quite sure when I''ll be making it up this fall, haven't been working for a couple of months now.
It sucks, all the time in the world, just limited on funds to do anything.
Been fishing local, but it's not anything close to what you have up there.
I'll get up there sometime this fall. Sold the camper earlier this year.
Oh yeah the name ... Gary gave it to me a year or so ago, one evening at Ellis I was geting a little
wild with the flyrod. Sounds like yous had an awsome time last weekend.
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yea and when 20lb dosent break and what ever u are snagged on pulls loose or ur hook straightens watch out! b/c all that energy is being recoiled personally i don't like a 1/2 oz of lead or more fly back at me at 300FPS :o :blink:
I had to rip out a #4 hook out of my buddies head with pliers at the trestle on monday! ;D Only had one guy out this am, says its slowing way down now! See what happens later!
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Hay flyswatter welcome aboard glad to see you are at least keeping up with whats going on. You missed a grate weekend we had a blast at the LB and the Ball Park must have hooked over 40 for the weekend. Not a bad way to start the season. Let me know when you have time to go and you can drive up with me. Unless you want to put some miles on your new truck then you can drive! I will call you later in the week
You Still off from work?
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where is this salmon river place???? and those fish arn't that big!!!! what do i need????someone told me they don't eat.....then someone with a bunch of trout unlimited patches driving a volvo that had a grateful dead and save the planet bumper sticker told me they actively feed?????
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Trapper, I think that salmon really look for our bait, eat it and then run like H@#&!! Those fish really like to bite our hooks!!! ::) Now where did I put that Greatful Dead cd?--KP
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BAIT ?????? Why add any extra weight to the hook???
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that stuff just dulls the hook
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I guess I can see why Snagger titled this the "BS Thread", huh?
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You have to use the Orvis Flies on the rotating ad on the bottom of our fish finder screen. That's why they put wooly buggers on there. They are the fly of choice for spawned out salmon. ;D
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I guess I can see why Snagger titled this the "BS Thread", huh?
Thank God for B.S.!! Makes the day go by better! Tightlines--KP :)
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Go read some of the other forums out there! We might all be nuts on this one, but we are way more HONEST! Got to love the SALMON FEVER! :w00t:
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i'm not sure but seeing a salmon doesn't have a stomach is it safe to make the assumtion that he doesn't feed any more???? :rotflol: :rotflol: i'm not a biologist i'm just saying............
As salmon begin their journey home, they will stop eating and live mainly on the oils stored in their bodies.
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Heck, this is one of the only ones I read daily, ha!
Seems to be lacking that good ol' "Fish Porn" from the first run though... Let's see 'em while their SILVER!
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Heck, this is one of the only ones I read daily, ha!
Seems to be lacking that good ol' "Fish Porn" from the first run though... Let's see 'em while their SILVER!
Let me get off dial up first! See what we can do for ya this weekend Jimmy! Females where silver, the males were that wierd yellowish orange early season color!
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I'm not sure but seeing a salmon doesn't have a stomach is it safe to make the assumption that he doesn't feed any more???? :rotflol: :rotflol: I'm not a biologist I'm just saying............
As salmon begin their journey home, they will stop eating and live mainly on the oils stored in their bodies.
Hey Trapper, I didn't know they had no stomach. Is it that the stomach shrinks when they spawn? or does there body destroy it as they go through there change?
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internal organs actually start to deteriorate the stomach skrinks and closes the part about the won't eat was from the states own release back in early 70's :rotflol: you know a time before government health care ,political correctness, and volvo driving yippies in my river
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I wonder why the state decided to stock Coho and Chinook Salmon and not reintroduce Altlantic Salmon when they figured it was time to get the Alewives in check. They had no idea back then about the thiamine issue in Atlantics. Maybe they figured the Pacific Salmon were better eaters since they are bigger on average?
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I am headed to the river now to find some mid day fun. Tuesday the fish seemed to have spread out a bit.
My buddy who lives in Sterling and walks his dog in the park said they are starting to fish for them in the Channel at Fair Haven State Park. Must have to do with Photo Period because there is hardly enough water in the stream above to say so?
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at one time the state considered stocking striped bass then followed suit with mich.
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i'm not sure but seeing a salmon doesn't have a stomach is it safe to make the assumtion that he doesn't feed any more???? :rotflol: :rotflol: i'm not a biologist i'm just saying............
As salmon begin their journey home, they will stop eating and live mainly on the oils stored in their bodies.
They still have stomachs but they will turn inside out before they make the runs...its still there but useless at that point...as they are in the rivers longer their throats will start to swell closed so even if you got a retarded salmon that didn't realize it shouldn't be feeding, it wouldn't be able to...once they start the run up river they've already started "feeding" of the oils and fats stored in their bodies and all attention goes towards running the river and spawning
then again these fish are 30+ years inbred so who really knows if they even know they are salmon anymore ;D ;D
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It was well documented out in Washington State in the 1960's, that this strain of chinook was the most non biting, non pre staging chinooks in there system. That's why they chose them, our river systems are for the most part small,short and warm water fisheries during the summer months! They didn't want any spring running kings out here like they have out there, so as to take care of the problem they were intended for, EATING MASS AMOUNTS OF ALEWIVES! They did almost put in stripers though like trap said! I think it was a biologist named DR. Tanner that made the final decision!
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I wonder why the state decided to stock Coho and Chinook Salmon and not reintroduce Altlantic Salmon when they figured it was time to get the Alewives in check. They had no idea back then about the thiamine issue in Atlantics. Maybe they figured the Pacific Salmon were better eaters since they are bigger on average?
Probably because they were having problems with them in Maine and other states that historically had good runs of them. Those states couldn't keep them alive either! There a very fickle fish, everything has to be perfect to successfully spawn and coexist with other species anywhere! Ask people how they are doing on the Connecticut River!
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Ask people how they are doing on the Connecticut River!
They are NOT!!!
Shad are comming back pretty good but the Salmon are not returning in the #s they should. You can catch um 4-6'' long all day in the spring when they stock them though.. ::)
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Oh forgot to say, now that the waters down & it's warm out, the salmon are swimming in circles in the bigger holes upstream! They have become very line shy and it's tempting to do things your not supposed to to get hook ups! The boys have been writing at the trestle, so keep it as legal as posible boys! Don't want to see anyones trip ruined with a ticket!
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Oh forgot to say, now that the waters down & it's warm out, the salmon are swimming in circles in the bigger holes upstream! They have become very line shy and it's tempting to do things your not supposed to to get hook ups! The boys have been writing at the trestle, so keep it as legal as posible boys! Don't want to see anyones trip ruined with a ticket!
How much is a snagging ticket running these days on average?
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oh snagging????? illegal taking of fish???? why we would never condone that :nono: :nono: :rotflol:
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How much is a snagging ticket running these days on average?
The guys I saw getting pulled out of the hole were getting attempting to snag or equipment ( big leaders) tickets! Around 150 for attempting to snag and 50 for leaders I think, actually been a while since any of my guys have gotten tickets that I know of!
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Thursday fishing Report: Lower end rapids were dead as a door nail today, rapids up here had small pods moving, but not great! It has only rained once in the last 19 days, and with that east coast storm forcast to miss us up here, it aint looking great! East Winds today could get fish in the port and get a run going for this Weekend, but was too chancy for me, told my guys to call me again friday, but probably will end up telling them to stay home! WE'LL SEE! Good luck out there, It's Slow now!
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Go read some of the other forums out there! We might all be nuts on this one, but we are way more HONEST! Got to love the SALMON FEVER! :w00t:
:cookoo: :w00t: :rotflol: :flex:YEAH, WE GOT THE FEVER!!! NO PROBLEM!! What's up SNAGGER? --KP
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oh snagging????? illegal taking of fish???? why we would never condone that :nono: :nono: :rotflol:
Stomachs or not, I still say these salmon bite the hook!!! ;D--Kp
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It was well documented out in Washington State in the 1960's, that this strain of chinook was the most non biting, non pre staging chinooks in there system. That's why they chose them, our river systems are for the most part small,short and warm water fisheries during the summer months! They didn't want any spring running kings out here like they have out there, so as to take care of the problem they were intended for, EATING MASS AMOUNTS OF ALEWIVES! They did almost put in stripers though like trap said! I think it was a biologist named DR. Tanner that made the final decision!
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If I'm not mistaken it had something to do with the shortage of striper eggs back in the late 60's/ early 70s? Thats around the time they started crashing. Kinda ironic that they chose to stock pacific salmon due to shortage of striper eggs and fast forward to present day and striper populations are at the highest they've ever been and pacific salmon are at their lowest and fishing is closed for them on MANY west coast river systems :( :(
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i love the salmon fishery! i think they fight better then strippers with out a doubt and we have the trout to boot ,i don't like the rule changes and the touch hole yippie crowd of politcally correct snobs and the state setting the dogs loss on guys that are just having fun and spending money,i've said it before say it again the state is killing the goose that layed the golden egg....if ya want i'll tell ya how i really feel :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
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i love the salmon fishery! i think they fight better then strippers with out a doubt and we have the trout to boot ,i don't like the rule changes and the touch hole yippie crowd of politcally correct snobs and the state setting the dogs loss on guys that are just having fun and spending money,i've said it before say it again the state is killing the goose that layed the golden egg....if ya want i'll tell ya how i really feel :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
Now Trapper, be nice!!! Seems as though the state finds certain ways to pee off the ones that are spending money to have a little fun and enjoy fishing!! I don't even want to think what it will be like when my little ones get older. Fish on and tightlines!!--KP
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If I'm not mistaken it had something to do with the shortage of striper eggs back in the late 60's/ early 70s? Thats around the time they started crashing. Kinda ironic that they chose to stock pacific salmon due to shortage of striper eggs and fast forward to present day and striper populations are at the highest they've ever been and pacific salmon are at their lowest and fishing is closed for them on MANY west coast river systems :( :(
INTERESTING FACTOID!
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Winds are howling out of the SouthEast and temps are dropping through the 60's already Plus my buddy says the Port has a couple hundred fish in it already, I hate making decisions for the weekend for my guests sometimes! It's a close call for Saturday- Sunday Minor Run!
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the orginal stockings of salmon were in the late 60's strippers were not at a low then at all! in fact very healthy, new york decided to follow suit with mich. simple because of the amount of alwifes a salmon could eat, grouth rates,and the eggs were shipped from mich. i can remeber my first salmon ,caught off ladd road on little salmon river haha then one came down the rapids and i sat on him ;D
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I stand corrected...did a little research and it was the mid 70s the striper population started to crash...
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Winds are howling out of the SouthEast and temps are dropping through the 60's already Plus my buddy says the Port has a couple hundred fish in it already, I hate making decisions for the weekend for my guests sometimes! It's a close call for Saturday- Sunday Minor Run!
so the weekend is iffy then? still planning on heading up to try it out, at least on Saturday. any ideas at all on where to try?
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Saw two fish on the river today around Sportsman's Pool. Both were straglers beat up and splotchy looking. That was it. Spent the afternoon walking the trails looking for new interesting steelhead water for late fall/winter.
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The guys I saw getting pulled out of the hole were getting attempting to snag or equipment ( big leaders) tickets! Around 150 for attempting to snag and 50 for leaders I think, actually been a while since any of my guys have gotten tickets that I know of!
figure 150 bucks for the ticket and about 40-50 dollars for court fees......so close to 200$.....better make sure you dont get caught :w00t: :-X
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so the weekend is iffy then? still planning on heading up to try it out, at least on Saturday. any ideas at all on where to try?
Always stay low, looking for new fish! upper lower black, staircase, town rapids, upper-lower ballpark, trooper pool rapids above 81, papermill area or below 2A, Find areas that are narrow and fish half to go threw in the morning or evenings. Fish deeper runs( not pools) during mid day unless a really good push is moving threw! I don't know many people that bother with the upper River with the strict regulations that are in place, til last week of September on! Last monday was an exception!
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Good Morning to all!, SNAGGER, I hear that salmon are leader and line shy, any truth to this or is it a myth? Learning all I can! Thanks!--KP :)
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Good Morning to all!, SNAGGER, I hear that salmon are leader and line shy, any truth to this or is it a myth? Learning all I can! Thanks!--KP :)
Oh yaeh! once in the River, they will move out of the way of anything if there held up in larger pools! Need crowds to keep them moving around!
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Friday Sept. 11th fishing/weather update: Had guys fish from the long bridge ( which is now heavilly posted above there) all the way down to DSR orange paint line at LB, they saw 5 fish and had a couple of hook ups, basically it SUCKS! Not only is it not raining, its completely sunny and 71 degrees out! That storm will not impact our weather what so ever, even the East winds have settled down. Theres plenty of fish in the port, but so far they are holding! Telling my guys to stay home! If you come up good luck, theres some fish and be careful if you fish the big pools!
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hey snag have u heard anything on the lake reports I am out in the morning and was wondering if you knew anyone out there today?
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hey snag have u heard anything on the lake reports I am out in the morning and was wondering if you knew anyone out there today?
I'll make a couple of phone calls! Sent you a PM! ;D
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its a compleat down pour here in chenago county with pretty good eat winds!
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Friday Sept. 11th fishing/weather update: basically it SUCKS! Not only is it not raining, its completely sunny and 71 degrees out!
Well the DSR report sounds alot more enticing than yours but I guess you aren't making $30 so I will believe you.
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Hey I told people to stay home, I lost money! You'll be all right if you pretend it's August 12th and not September 12th and don't mind working for a few fish! I do have a couple guys here, that will be down low again before they leave, they stopped at the Trestle hole and they were Hooking them OK this evening! Like I said before though, be careful there! STILL NO RAIN HERE as of 7PM!! My lawn is turning brown!
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Hey SNAGGER, Has PUFF DADDY been swimming after the salmon yet?
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Hey SNAGGER, Has PUFF DADDY been swimming after the salmon yet?
I don't think he was up for that monster Labor Day Weekend run! Philster went swimming daily, although he was the only one wearing waders! ;D
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Snagger, did you get to see those pics of Moose and I on the bike yet?
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Snagger, did you get to see those pics of Moose and I on the bike yet?
I'll check it out later tonight, got to go! They won't open up, just a red X in a box!
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I'll check it out later tonight, got to go! They won't open up, just a red X in a box!
There must be too much info in those pic's for that Space race age PC your working from ;)
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There must be too much info in those pic's for that Space race age PC your working from ;)
Hey Don't make fun of my computer, Steve Jobbs gave me this beauty back in the 70's! It's a classic, got pong and everything on it! It's so old, it's made in the USA! ;D
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Hey Don't make fun of my computer, Steve Jobbs gave me this beauty back in the 70's! It's a classic, got pong and everything on it! It's so old, it's made in the USA! ;D
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not the salmon river but we CAUGHT(thats right i really belive a salmon will bite now) these fish at the mouth of the genny the first one is mine it was 40.5" and a hair over 31#s and the 2nd one is nicks and it was 38" and 27#s. the boats there were slaying the fish, notice how wet i am some ass hole in a 30 something foot boat went flying by when i was landing it and left me a nice big wave :o
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Snagger, did you get to see those pics of Moose and I on the bike yet?
What was that big ol teddy bear doing anyway?
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Shane any afternoon report? I am thinking about going for a drive. ;)
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Hey Don't make fun of my computer, Steve Jobbs gave me this beauty back in the 70's! It's a classic, got pong and everything on it! It's so old, it's made in the USA! ;D Goes with that shag carpet and reusable sideburns that i seen you sportin the other day
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Your one too talk, driving up here on your Decked out Harley dressed up like john Travolta from Grease! Gadam Yuppie! :w00t:
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Worked hard this weekend with not much to show for it . But I had a blast searching for fish. Saw small pods of fish all over the river, but they were very spooky.Was at schoolhouse this morning, and the only guys to hook up had 8# or less for main line. Helped one guy land a nice king on 8#. This could only be done now with very few people. I spent the rest of my day chasing pods of fish on the rt3 bridge. Very spooky fish there to. Changed from 12# to 8# fluorocarbon. Did not spook fish , but could not hook up. That just proved That I suck as a bridge lifter. The douglaston parking lot was full at 9:00.
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Worked hard this weekend with not much to show for it . But I had a blast searching for fish. Saw small pods of fish all over the river, but they were very spooky.Was at schoolhouse this morning, and the only guys to hook up had 8# or less for main line. Helped one guy land a nice king on 8#. This could only be done now with very few people. I spent the rest of my day chasing pods of fish on the rt3 bridge. Very spooky fish there to. Changed from 12# to 8# fluorocarbon. Did not spook fish , but could not hook up. That just proved That I suck as a bridge lifter. The douglaston parking lot was full at 9:00.
Time to pull the steelhead rods out with 6lb. Wirestone! I just walked back from schoolhouse, alot jumping, a few hook ups, but there line shy! Heard it was a madhouse at the trestle! Big Mike said there was a 11am pod at the LB, but thats it! No rain in forcast either, the goldenrod was wilting at the schoolhouse! Hope they don't lower the River! What a great stretch of weather the lake guys have had the last 3 weeks!
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Drove by the Trestle hole parking lot on 13 around 1100am it was full! Cars out near the road...
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At the bridge I saw 4 hook ups in 5 hrs. All on light line.
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The guys I saw getting pulled out of the hole were getting attempting to snag or equipment ( big leaders) tickets! Around 150 for attempting to snag and 50 for leaders I think, actually been a while since any of my guys have gotten tickets that I know of!
How do you get a ticket for attempting to snag ???? I thought it was the act of repeated or exagerated lifts with the rod. I haven't been there in years and in fact back then the leader length was min. 24 inches and hook gap a max of 1/2''. What new rules do they have this year ? My son wants to go out but we haven't stayed out overnight since the riverside went out of business. Used to be nice right there where you could roll out of bed and go right down thehill by the bridge.Lot of good memories there. What are the GW's looking for in order to write a ticket?
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How do you get a ticket for attempting to snag ???? I thought it was the act of repeated or exagerated lifts with the rod. I haven't been there in years and in fact back then the leader length was min. 24 inches and hook gap a max of 1/2''. What new rules do they have this year ? My son wants to go out but we haven't stayed out overnight since the riverside went out of business. Used to be nice right there where you could roll out of bed and go right down thehill by the bridge.Lot of good memories there. What are the GW's looking for in order to write a ticket?
I remember the River Street place! The State has basically structured the laws so that almost anybody could get a ticket in the course of a fishing trip if your hooking alot of fish! No lead above four feet was a big hole killer, since salmon are very line shy! Forces everyone into the rapids, with all the land grabbing going on ,not that much room in the rapids anymore! All the places where the State owns land, you need your lead as far away from the hook as posible, like the trestle,schoolhouse, and sportsmans pools! Others used to call us ropers or goons, didn't bother me, I was hooking ALOT of fish and they were in the MOUTH! It really is a shame how a few can change it for everybody! Four feet is effective in the faster moving water, but be careful in the bigger pools ( especially when there NOT crowded)! >:(
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A Backdoor cold front came through this morning with a little rain, According to DSR that was enough to get some of those fish in the port moving. Maybe by Late afternoon they'll be up to the Staircase! Also the winds have picked up out of the north, it's only 66 degrees and cloudy out! Maybe the rest of those fish at the port will leave tonight under the DSR radar screen and be in Pulaski tomorrow. We'll see! Good luck out there!
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A Backdoor cold front came through this morning with a little rain, According to DSR that was enough to get some of those fish in the port moving. Maybe by Late afternoon they'll be up to the Staircase! Also the winds have picked up out of the north, it's only 66 degrees and cloudy out! Maybe the rest of those fish at the port will leave tonight under the DSR radar screen and be in Pulaski tomorrow. We'll see! Good luck out there!
What ever happened to the Riverside after Peter died ??? We still went there for a while after and haven't been there since 2000. Can you still park in that parking lot ?We used to pay 5 bucks for parking if we didn't rent a room. It was really easy acess for me . I miss hooking into them and hearing the spool scream. I wonder if they still climb down the rope behind the grocery store. I used to see some nasty falls thru the years.
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I remember climbing down the cliff at the old P&C at the long bridge, that was in the 80's during high water!( you would be the only guys on the cliff side) I don't know what happened to that place! I think you can still park there for a fee, but some Dentist posted the heck out of all of the Rapids at the corner down to the Long Bridge! Can only fish the town hole! They make you pay behind the yankee fly and tackle also, just up from the old Silver Star grocery!
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I remember climbing down the cliff at the old P&C at the long bridge, that was in the 80's during high water!( you would be the only guys on the cliff side) I don't know what happened to that place! I think you can still park there for a fee, but some Dentist posted the heck out of all of the Rapids at the corner down to the Long Bridge! Can only fish the town hole! They make you pay behind the yankee fly and tackle also, just up from the old Silver Star grocery!
YEP !!!!!!!!!! That cliff was for the more energenic guys LOL The fish would hang under those ledges on that side though. I don't know how they release the water anymore but when I first started going years ago .It was great .You could time it right and be at the deep holes when the water receded. FISH ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In the 90's the water was run differently and it wasn't quite the same BUT, Still fish on. Great times.I couldn't understand how some guys would duke it out over the dying fish though LOL. Back when the treble hooks were legal we would see the kings coming up looking like a Xmas tree with all the hardware etc.They used to bulldose the dead fish up by the hatchery before the fish ladder was built. Many fond memories and lots of pictures of my boys when I would take them out of school on field trips ;D ;D Thanks for the info snagger
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SNAGGER, I tried to return your P.M. but your box is full. Going to try to get up your way in the morning. See Ya--KP :)
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Sent a friend down to the LB last 3 hours before dark. He said it was solid steady Coho's and some kings going by him the whole time he was there. He said it was a decent Run with groups of 4 or 5 going by the whole time, also said about 20 guys were there and everybody was hooking up! They were moving like lightning, so they'll be quite bit upstream by tomorrow, hopefully more will leave the port tonight! Wish I had more info, I couldn't go! Good luck guys!
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HOW 'BOUT THEM COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!! ;D Any fish move up yet SNAGGER? Got the afternoon to screw off, Wondering where to fish!! ::) Have a great one!!--KP
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HOW 'BOUT THEM COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!! ;D Any fish move up yet SNAGGER? Got the afternoon to screw off, Wondering where to fish!! ::) Have a great one!!--KP
Check back in in a little while KP, I'll see what's going on! Hopefully some kings moved up with last nights cool weather. Got down to 45.7 degrees at my house last night, you could check the ball park for yesterday's fish, but being they were Coho's there probably long gone into the middle part of the River all spread out! Who are the Cowboys, they play hockey! ;D
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I was up there Saturday at Tresle Hole. Caught a 26lb beauty. My first time ever too, so beginners luck I guess.
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Check back in in a little while KP, I'll see what's going on! Hopefully some kings moved up with last nights cool weather. Got down to 45.7 degrees at my house last night, you could check the ball park for yesterday's fish, but being they were Coho's there probably long gone into the middle part of the River all spread out! Who are the Cowboys, they play hockey! ;D
:w00t: GOOD LUCK to your BILLS tonight!! Gotta run for an estimate, I'll check in later!! See Ya!--KP :)
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HOW 'BOUT THEM COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!! ;D Any fish move up yet SNAGGER? Got the afternoon to screw off, Wondering where to fish!! ::) Have a great one!!--KP
:clapping: :flex: :thumbup_smilie:.....16-0 and another superbowl ring for the collection, sounds good to me!!
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I don't know about 16-0?, but I hope ROMO stays a leader and keeps the momentum rolling! ROMO's injury update looks good! Light sprain! What's up SNAGGER!! It's your thread, didn't want to leave you out!! ;D FISH ON!--KP
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gotta love this thread , everything from sports, fishing, and even a Little political bashing :clapping:all you need now is to get the "GIRLS GONE FISHING' here, or better yet the cowboy cheerleaders on the salmon river.
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Monday fishing Report: had to pay bills and go to lumber yard, so stopped at long bridge and watched 5 guys fish for 10 minutes down in the staircase rollers! Nothing! went to Lb and watched 4 guys fish! 1 hooked in 10 minutes! Stopped at the Ball park and watched 7 guys fish for about 15 minutes, saw 1 coho hooked! NOBODY around and just some fish moving. One guy at the Ball Park said he was at the upper sportsman's this morning and a pod of Coho's went by him! Those Coho's are flying up the River! Hopefully some kings will come in, there a little slower! Great job NHDAN0! ;D
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Ya they will probably make it to the playoffs and Romo will find a way to mess things up like the past couple years ::)......How big is a coho i dont think i have ever seen one?
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Ya they will probably make it to the playoffs and Romo will find a way to mess things up like the past couple years ::)......How big is a coho i dont think i have ever seen one?
They run 7-10lbs. on average, with 12-14lbers pretty common! a 20lber is worth mounting! There really good looking and fight hard for there size like steelies!
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Never got a Coho either, but I hear they are freight trains...
Hoping to luck into one next weekend... God bless those Chromers too- or anything that fights like 'em!
Any browns showing up in the mix?
I know it's early and all, but it would seem like some would know to get upriver early to claim good seats for the egg buffet, right?
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gotta love this thread , everything from sports, fishing, and even a Little political bashing :clapping:all you need now is to get the "GIRLS GONE FISHING' here, or better yet the cowboy cheerleaders on the salmon river.
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just looked up pics of the cohos, do they get that pinkish color in them when they are in the river?
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Never got a Coho either, but I hear they are freight trains...
Hoping to luck into one next weekend... God bless those Chromers too- or anything that fights like 'em!
Any browns showing up in the mix?
I know it's early and all, but it would seem like some would know to get upriver early to claim good seats for the egg buffet, right?
You know it's funny, I haven't heard of any accidental steelies yet from anybody I know, maybe they'll come in like the old days in very late September & early October this year! Coho's are a riot to fight, plus there really good eating once you get that dark side cut out! A little harder to clean cause there meat is soft! There meat is usually pinkish red in color! There no walleye, but they aint bad!
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When do the salmon start to actually spawn in the river? I remember early - mid october last year was crazy around the grael areas. I don't recall the water temperature. I know that plays a significant role.
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What's the "Long Leader Regulation"? Is it the same regulation as the one stating you can't have weight further than 4 feet from the hook?
How far up can a swivel be?
I did check the NY regulation book but found only the weight rule.
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:bowdown: :thumbup_smilie:J I hope SNAGGER calls us if the cheerleaders stay at his place
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snagger is the black sponge nymph, still the best overall bait??it was in the old days !!!
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snagger is the black sponge nymph, still the best overall bait??it was in the old days !!!
Hey how have you been Freddy, it's still around, but these days we do alot more pretending than back in the old days! Well I don't, but most guys do! I think there called black stone flys now! ;D I always liked orange! When we going lifting together? That would be a hoot! Catch ya later Freddy! keep given them eyes a sore mouth for me man!
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:bowdown: :thumbup_smilie:J I hope SNAGGER calls us if the cheerleaders stay at his place
He has had quite a few cheerleaders there over the years. ;) Its kind of a local trollop bonanza thing. They would follow the great Snagger home and he would crash. Then all the wolves would congregate and the show was on.
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here is a real nice coho i got on 9/20/08 it pulled real hard
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that looks more like a king than a coho to me.....?
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Yep, that's a very silver king, Great fish, waters ripping in the background! I like guessing spots from pic's, is that the slate just above old ninemo building parking area in town, just below the ball park?
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Went to Pulaski again running Arron's, hardly anybody around for a report, but got me thinking about later in the season. Should be good up river later in the season, when the fish start spawning in a couple of weeks. Not many fish being picked off in Pulaski, due to the recession! Just thinking of something positive about the slow start to the season so far for the area! I did see more hook ups, still not a big run though! Talked to Fran Verdaliva yesterday about where the money for bank improvements went, and he said it is being held hostage in Albany. Doesn't know when any work will get started again, he insisted that the work would start again! A chunk of the Occidental Chemical Suite money was used to improve two parts of the fly zones, build them another parking area, and a dam across a flood diversion above the Altmar bridge! But once they got to the Altmar bridge, the work stopped that was supposed to continue down River! Money for Chaumont bay and Sandy Pond parking was in there too! We'll see after that flood of new money goes rolling in after October 1st!
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Yep, that's a very silver king, Great fish, waters ripping in the background! I like guessing spots from pic's, is that the slate just above old ninemo building parking area in town, just below the ball park?
look's like a 18 pound hen to me and that look's like the ballpark right in front of the drift boat launch pad?? :afro:
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He has had quite a few cheerleaders there over the years. ;) Its kind of a local trollop bonanza thing. They would follow the great Snagger home and he would crash. Then all the wolves would congregate and the show was on.
Thats what Moose always said too
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He has had quite a few cheerleaders there over the years. ;) Its kind of a local trollop bonanza thing. They would follow the great Snagger home and he would crash. Then all the wolves would congregate and the show was on.
Are you trying to tell us that SNAGGER, THE MAN, was an early bird?? :rotflol: I don't believe it!! ;D What's up SNAGGER?--KP :)
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Yep the old bar days, they were fun, passed out is more like it! Had alot of fun times up here over the years, most of which we can not talk about on here! :w00t: Had some friends of mine stop by and they said there was a decent number of kings earlier today go through the Ball Park, but has slowed down now! They also stopped in at the Oswego River and said it was too high to get around the Flume at the dam to get out to the Rock! ut O! ;D I wonder how long they will run it1
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Save some of those stories for the ice SNAGGER!! I've got a few to tell ::)--KP
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Shane, I am thinking about getting there shortly. Has the fishing picked up? If I came before the weekend and want to stay; can you find a spot for me? I am looking to stay a handful days and if too busy on weekend, I could come up Sunday. Don
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Whats up snagger, not to much talk on here about the salmon fishing... I thought this was a good start to the season. That was the biggest run of fish I ever saw on labor day. only been going up for 8 years. I'm sure you have seen better. I will be up tomorrow afternoon, wana find sum silver cohos. See ya then... Maybe you can take 1 more day and cruise the river
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here is a real nice coho i got on 9/20/08 it pulled real hard
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thats a nice coho / king must of hit a really stoned fly :P
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Hey how have you been Freddy, it's still around, but these days we do alot more pretending than back in the old days! Well I don't, but most guys do! I think there called black stone flys now! ;D I always liked orange! When we going lifting together? That would be a hoot! Catch ya later Freddy! keep given them eyes a sore mouth for me man!
IT WAS REALLY WORKING TODAY ON THE COHO'S BOY DID THEY EAT IT!!! :o :o :o
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HEY BOYZ WHAT'S SUP??? THEY WERE MOVING ALL AFTERNOON LOT OF HO'S YOU KNOW WHERE I WAS SNAGGER DOESN'T ANSWER THE PHONE MUCH FOR ME!!!!
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I'M GOING TO WARN YOU THE PICS WILL BE COMING SOOON!!! :o ;D ;D :o :'( :'(
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I'M GOING TO WARN YOU THE PICS WILL BE COMING SOOON!!! :o ;D ;D :o :'( :'(
hey northwoods good luck with the pics ill be there next 2 days ill let you hold my fish :o was at the LB yesterday hooked 25, kings were out numbered 5 to 1 steady fish the 2 hours i was there 007 was a spectator even though he didnt want to be ;D where the suckas at,just to let everyone know i had a loomis pole and reel stolen out of my car in the black hole parking lot so be carefull boys >:(
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HEY BOYZ WHAT'S SUP??? THEY WERE MOVING ALL AFTERNOON LOT OF HO'S YOU KNOW WHERE I WAS SNAGGER DOESN'T ANSWER THE PHONE MUCH FOR ME!!!!
You didn't call! Neither did lambaster! HOGGIN ALL THE FISH FOR YOURSELVES AS USUAL! Big Mike said you got pushed out of your roller tonight, what can't hang with the BIG BOYS! :w00t: That's Ok, Me and Filet are planning a suprize attack soon!
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Are you trying to tell us that SNAGGER, THE MAN, was an early bird?? :rotflol: I don't believe it!! ;D What's up SNAGGER?--KP :)
Hes Like a big ol chunk of catfish bait. He would be out there hangin out and the Trollop fish would congregate around him lookin to see which one of them had enough moxie to take a nibble. Then the wolf pack would reel the great snagger back into the den, trollop fish following like perch after a white jig, and sometimes he would hook em, and sometimes he would let the wolves attack the prey. Problem Is the wolves could not always stop after one meal. And some of the wolves tried to take the trollop fish back to thier own dens make trollop soup a daily ritual.
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hey northwoods good luck with the pics ill be there next 2 days ill let you hold my fish :o was at the LB yesterday hooked 25, kings were out numbered 5 to 1 steady fish the 2 hours i was there 007 was a spectator even though he didnt want to be ;D where the suckas at,just to let everyone know i had a loomis pole and reel stolen out of my car in the black hole parking lot so be carefull boys >:(
They went right into your car and took the pole out, that freakin sucks. Thanx for the heads up I always have a couple poles in my truck and I never lock my doors.
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Got pretty cold up here last night, 39.7 degreese] hey fishinaddict give me a call, the fillet station will be opening tomorrow! Hey black albey get up here, probably going to be decent today!
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hey northwoods good luck with the pics ill be there next 2 days ill let you hold my fish :o was at the LB yesterday hooked 25, kings were out numbered 5 to 1 steady fish the 2 hours i was there 007 was a spectator even though he didnt want to be ;D where the suckas at,just to let everyone know i had a loomis pole and reel stolen out of my car in the black hole parking lot so be carefull boys >:(
Yea, i wasn't having a good day! I ended up breaking 3 rods, all within 3 hours. >:( Oh lambaste after you left about 10 mins later i blew up that brand new rod i came down with. :o Now work got me held up for another day and i cant get there till the morning. Ill be there bright and early and knowing my luck ill be a day late and a dollar short...
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Hes Like a big ol chunk of catfish bait. He would be out there hangin out and the Trollop fish would congregate around him lookin to see which one of them had enough moxie to take a nibble. Then the wolf pack would reel the great snagger back into the den, trollop fish following like perch after a white jig, and sometimes he would hook em, and sometimes he would let the wolves attack the prey. Problem Is the wolves could not always stop after one meal. And some of the wolves tried to take the trollop fish back to thier own dens make trollop soup a daily ritual.
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Wednesday September 16th fishing report: Had friends out today who did pretty good! My buddy Dave hooked over 40 Coho's and a few kings in the pulaski rollers! They said fish were moving all day in decent numbers! Had guys check the Port and it has quite a few fish in it, so hopefully they'll keep running, a little warmer tonight with temps in the upper 40's!
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Hey Mayer hope your Feeling better, the Coho's are running! I know you like them!
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Good Cool EAST winds out there right now, should fill the Port again! I actually find accuracy in DSR report this morning!
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I got a kinda stupid question guys. What do you use for nets for salmon? I've only been fishing for them a few times and that was at Oswego off the wall so i have a huge landing net.
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I got a kinda stupid question guys. What do you use for nets for salmon? I've only been fishing for them a few times and that was at Oswego off the wall so i have a huge landing net.
Usually I just beach them, but those Big nets are what we use over here too! Just shorter handles! Had a good friend call me and said the steady fish of the past couple of days slowed today with just a few fish moving through the Ball Park and Staircase today! Mostly male kings, a few small coho's, also my buddies hooked a few steelies yesterday, first I've heard of this year! NO RAIN HERE TODAY so far, only has rained twice in last 26 days! Syracuse has only had 00.001" of rain this month!
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Fished the river today around the village. Pretty decent action most of the day.
I had the pleasure of meeting and fishing next to Northwoods this morning. He was guiding a salmon/newbie below me. Northwoods certaintly is good with his clients. He was attentive, and coached in a calm manor. I am sure his client is sitting happy tonight as they hit the fish good today! Nice meeting you Northwoods!
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Sweet report Jason...
I tell ya', 5pm on Friday cannot come soon enough this week...
Happy to hear a few over-eager Chromers are showing up to the party too. Nice! Bring on the WEEKEND!
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Buddy of mine got into a bunch of fish today at the Black Hole; all kings.
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Yea, i wasn't having a good day! I ended up breaking 3 rods, all within 3 hours. >:( Oh lambaste after you left about 10 mins later i blew up that brand new rod i came down with. :o Now work got me held up for another day and i cant get there till the morning. Ill be there bright and early and knowing my luck ill be a day late and a dollar short...
what brand rods are you breaking ????? I used to go with a 8' ugly stick and penn 450 ss and in all those years never broke one.
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whats the biggest salmon you guys have ever caught out of the river? just curious
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Fished the river today around the village. Pretty decent action most of the day.
I had the pleasure of meeting and fishing next to Northwoods this morning. He was guiding a salmon/newbie below me. Northwoods certaintly is good with his clients. He was attentive, and coached in a calm manor. I am sure his client is sitting happy tonight as they hit the fish good today! Nice meeting you Northwoods!
Yah Mark's a very personable guy and good fisherman. Later my buddy Dave & 007 fished next to him till dark. They said it was Non Stop Action til it was too dark to fish! Good mix of Coho's & Kings, & a couple Steelies! Had a friend look for yesterday's fish at the Ball Park and said it was pretty dead with only about 10 hook ups for 3 hours work! Just saw the forcast, calling for Breezy conditions and a high of 59 degrees & a low of 33 degrees on Saturday, that should get them moving. Could be a hole in the Run next week with temps heading back to the upper 70's! Still No rain! >:(
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whats the biggest salmon you guys have ever caught out of the river? just curious
Me and my girlfriend in 1987 got a 42lber & 43lber in the same day at what is now DSR ( we used to pay the farmer Josh 4 bucks and walk over to the flatts), although these fish were weighed in on a scale at the old Whitakers tackle shop, it was probably off by quite a bit, they were still Monsters. I Got a certified 38lber out of Oswego in 1990!
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OK I heard there was a leader length limit when lifting for the salmon. Is this true and if so how long can the leader off your main line be. Pretty soon they will be takin our poles away and tell us we can only use sticks to try and hit them over the head as they go past. DEC stinks with all the new rules and fee increases.
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aj lifting is illegal! ya got to read between the lines and theres tickets for attemped foul hooking too! so be careful in the tribs the leader can not be longer then 4 foot, please read the rules before you fish buddy i hate seeing people get tickets for just tring to have fun!
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Thanks trapper just got the book today gonna brush up on the rules.
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No attached lead above four feet! We all nicknamed it a leader! Makes getting line shy Salmon very difficult in low or slow water! Just another step to make it impossible for us to get legally hooked fish. Once the River is empty of us working guys, the wealthy land grabbers can have a great American river all to themselves and charge whatever they want to the white collar guys that are responsible for out soursing all our jobs to China and keeping the profits! Isn't it great!
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WOW a 42 and 43 in the same day :o.....thats insane.......but back then you were probably using the weighted treble hooks and hooking into fish until you got sick of it, right? I wasnt even born then but it seems like it would be classified as "The Good Ol' Days".
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I think they just used spears way back then! :w00t: :w00t: :rotflol: Later-DEAD
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WOW a 42 and 43 in the same day :o.....thats insane.......but back then you were probably using the weighted treble hooks and hooking into fish until you got sick of it, right? I wasnt even born then but it seems like it would be classified as "The Good Ol' Days".
I never used trebles, even when you could. Always been a fly rod, martin 72, and mono guy since I was 9 years old. Learned how to lift fish by old timers in the Finger Lakes actually in the late 70's! Wierd huh! they were the "Good ole days" though for sure! Those were the days when somebody was the Mayer of a hole if you hooked the most fish, you actually got respect. Now your targeted by ticket writers or talked poorly about by other fishermen if you hook too many fish! I don't fish this River as much anymore because of that, it's not as FUN!
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Friday Sept. 18th early Report: Talked to people who fished the LB & lower staircase, said it was Dead! Yesterday's fish are farther upstream! Must be mid River, cause Altmar aint on Fire!
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Hey MAYOR, Someone said the S word (STEELHEAD) :clapping:
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Wow no talking, must be Friday everyones on the road, see you tomorrow! GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY!
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I never used trebles, even when you could. Always been a fly rod, martin 72, and mono guy since I was 9 years old. Learned how to lift fish by old timers in the Finger Lakes actually in the late 70's! Wierd huh! they were the "Good ole days" though for sure! Those were the days when somebody was the Mayer of a hole if you hooked the most fish, you actually got respect. Now your targeted by ticket writers or talked poorly about by other fishermen if you hook too many fish! I don't fish this River as much anymore because of that, it's not as FUN!
I caught a certified 36 lb out of the river and that to me was great. No treble hook, Just a single with superglued Mr. Twister. With all the snags and guys throwing in their lines after you holler FISH ON !!!! I was pleased with a genuine 36lber. I met different guys out there who said their fish weighed 40 lbs and I never said anything BUT knew it was nothing near 40lb. I fished Sandy Creek 1 Time during the Snag days and I was using single hooks and all the other guys had these weighted trebles on. MY God , I thought I was in a combat zone. You know where I am talking right off RT3 and you could toss right across to the other side. Got hit in the glasses by a guy that got caught on the other side and when it broke loose and hit me I thought somebody had thrown a rock. Remember seeing all the fish with multiple decorations on them LOL. Never got written up out there but seen plenty who did.I am sure everybody has opinions on the foul hooking kings. I say the dying kings are just that ,Dying and if it can make a fisherman happy and definately generates money for Pulaski with a boost to economy then so what,I have caught many in the mouth and actually caught a lake trout in town which I released and many that were hooked every where between the head and tail and you know what , They all gave me a thrill.Nothing like a fresh king to bring a smile to your face and My boys will remember those times forever.
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When I was in grade school a couple of different friends of the family brought me to the river and we snagged with those big weighted trebles. I'm pretty sure we were near Pineville Bridge but it was a quite a few years ago now (mid 80's). Another guy took me and we fished off the wall in town, that use to be like a designated "Lifting" area. Could only use single hooks there... My Uncle use to fish the river back in the 70's; he tells a story of a guy who had a broom handle with a piece of parachute chord tied to it. He had multiple trebles on it and was snaggin salmon and trying to drag them to the shore! Now; there is "Fishing Cops" hiding in the bushes, making sure you don't exaggerate your yank ??? Times sure have changed
JM I know what you mean about guys saying their fish is a lot heavier than what it is... I'm an honest guy too and don't like to argue with guys about it, but it can be frustrating...
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any reports of action anywhere? might make it up tonight or, more likely, tomorrow.
thanks
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When I was in grade school a couple of different friends of the family brought me to the river and we snagged with those big weighted trebles. I'm pretty sure we were near Pineville Bridge but it was a quite a few years ago now (mid 80's). Another guy took me and we fished off the wall in town, that use to be like a designated "Lifting" area. Could only use single hooks there... My Uncle use to fish the river back in the 70's; he tells a story of a guy who had a broom handle with a piece of parachute chord tied to it. He had multiple trebles on it and was snaggin salmon and trying to drag them to the shore! Now; there is "Fishing Cops" hiding in the bushes, making sure you don't exaggerate your yank ??? Times sure have changed
JM I know what you mean about guys saying their fish is a lot heavier than what it is... I'm an honest guy too and don't like to argue with guys about it, but it can be frustrating...
:police: :police: :police: :police: :police: :police: :police: :police: :police: :police: :police: :police: GOTTA GO IT'S 5-0!!!! ;D
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Pretty slow today for me from top to bottom. Only a few fish all day long. They sure are good at spreading out.
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same for me also only saw a few today
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I jumped off my roof project and had a friend watch the fish cleaning station to try to figure out what is going on! NOW I KNOW Went to the Lower Estuary near the lake on my buddies boat, there are thousands of Salmon just swimming around and Jumping! Tons of boats, lots of fish hooked and landed! Last night had a Frost so hard it killed all my veggies except my brokili! But the fish didn't move from the estuary. I think were going to need a RAIN to get these fish moving in NUMBERS, not just little trickles! We'll see tonight with another Frost coming! I had a lodge full of guests who worked very hard everywhere to get what they got, no real hot spots! Just did alot of walking and moving! Really good boom to the Port Ontario economy today!
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High Pressure
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High Pressure
Has there even been any hurricanes this year, haven't paid attention. Just read DSR report, they said there on the move, Man I hope so! I haven't gotten any calls yet all my friends are in the port or the lake! Yesterday Altmar was SLOW! Hole above Pineville Bridge was OK, as was a little ways above 2A!
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THERE ON THE MOVE, just talked too some guys that are doing well in Pulaski and my friends on boats in the Port says it sucks, there coming back for there waders!
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any idea on where to try this evening?
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Just got home fished from clam shed to 81 only seen 5 fish on,didnt see any pods come through very slow this AM
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PODS! That's exactlly whats going through LB and lower Staircase today. Guys said groups of 10, then nothing, then groups of 10, then nothing! Coho's and Kings mixed, not great, but better than Saturday! Couple guys here said they hooked 30 or so each for a half days effort! WE NEED RAIN BAD!
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That's an understatement SNAGGER!!!! WE need lots of rain!! Believe it or not, but my grass in my front yard is brown in spots >:(--KP
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Hey snagger cant get you on the phone, you been cleaning fish? Heard it was slow saturday. Hoping to hit it big through the week. any predictions? Give me a call
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Took a ride today and sat behind the VFW post. Sad but true saw a guy take a foul hooked fish home. Couple of guys yelled but foul hook man acted like he didnt hear a thing. Just dont get it?????
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454, just let it go.. Its a Salmon in 8 weeks would be fish food anyways. Its a put and take fish, let the man eat!
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Took a ride today and sat behind the VFW post. Sad but true saw a guy take a foul hooked fish home. Couple of guys yelled but foul hook man acted like he didnt hear a thing. Just dont get it?????
aj times are tough man , and truth that salmon was dead anyways. in the greater sceam of life does it really matter? isn't it better that he took it home and ate it then for it to rott on the bank a week from now? guess you did say one thing i agree with "i just don't get it"
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probably he did it as a way to speak out against the license increase.....take that NY :w00t: :rotflol:
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I'm sure the fish cleaner who is supporting his familly didn't care where it was hooked! That's all I got to say about that! Fishing was ALOT SLOWER in the evening at the Staircase and LB tonight than at mid day! Only 1 or 2 fish every 10 minutes moving through! Had guests at the Port that said that it got better towards evening! BRING ON THE RAIN ALREADY! 21st of September and we've gotten 00.004" of rain this month! No REAL RAIN in Late August either!
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Took a ride today and sat behind the VFW post. Sad but true saw a guy take a foul hooked fish home. Couple of guys yelled but foul hook man acted like he didnt hear a thing. Just dont get it?????
You know. I dont understand it. I was up there for two days. actually just got home. And With the exception of one Brown. Every Fish i saw landed and strung was foul hooked. I saw the guy there too. Looked like he had a blast at it. I have to agree With both Snagger and trapper on this. I'm sure if it was you, you wouldnt have said a thing...... :'(
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not lieing , even if the hook is in the mouth 99.9% of the time you snagged it in the mouth ! why can i safely say this!!! there stomachs are closed! they don't hit! ,oh aggression ya a size 10 fly in bright pink really makes them aggressive!!!! go have fun ! let other people have fun it's going to be a short season ,let the state be the jerks with the army of green down there,which reminds me i heard gun shots last night and seen spot lights, no sense in calling all the officers are making sure the dieing salmon are safe !!!!! just something to think about boys
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As for the foul hooking of that Salmon.....Just let it go!!
You got to look at it like this. The state, if it was to make it to the hatchery. Are going to kill it anyways.
It was chased all summer long by fishermen and charter Capt's.(So there is revenue made there) gas,line,lures ETC! When you buy your fishing licence,you have already put an amount into the fish. Buying your tackle and gas to get to the river(More Revenue) for the state got have taxes. Oh yes don't forget about the GUY IN GREEN!!! They need a paycheck too. You know what...They don't get paid much to do that..Some just like to make your day $hitty... Ok, and you get caught keeping or lifting a deathwish fish..(More Revenue). So look at it like this...If you get away with a foul hooked fish and your going to eat it, think as yourself as Robin Hood!!
You just beat the state with there B/S taxes and you just got your money back.... :laugh:
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Hey Trap, you know I've been a River Ratt my whole life and have spent little time on boats! Now that I own one, I went to see first hand what all the HOOPLA was about with this night fishing at the mouth! Fished the corner hole all the way out past the rocks into the lake! Well just more lining,lifting and snagging, which doesn't bother me one bit, but from reading all the Broshures about how they still bite and hit glow in the dark spoons and egg sacs with floaters, I was kind of let down! I even saw foul hooked fish from close to shore trollers! I saw over 150 boats and not one fish bit out of any of them, I went with the flow and had a great time as usual, I lined my share in the mouth and broke off foul hooked ones, if they don't even bite at the mouth, why would they bite up river? Had a great time, but alot of PRETENDERS out there too!
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snagger i can in all honesty say i have gotten a few kings surf fishing salmon river mouth with fresh roe i have had a few spoons almost swallowed in oswego , i have run planner boards and pulled plugs in the current too,again i believe i'm actually foul hooking the kings in the mouth!!!! ,in all cases these were fresh fish and i mean fresh after 40 years of chasing salmon ,i have the opinion these things do not hit once in the river! i'll have a hundred people jump me that they hit plugs , truth is it's a waste of time you can hook 2 or 3 fish a day or 100 which do ya want to do? i live on the river have all the time in the world to play , but if i was driving hours to catch fish i would want to catch fish .... me personally i'm turning my back .... darn things are the swimin dead anyways and should be made into a monster movie!>>>>NOW I GOT ANOTHER LEGAL QUESTION WHAT IF I WANT TO DROP SHOT????? the weight is below the bait! legal or not! i'm calling albany i want this one in writing i fore see a ticket coming but i have aa new fishing system for browns and steelies :)
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According to the 2009 rule book, dropshotting is unlawful.
Hard to believe how much the upper reservoir has dropped in the last few weeks without a significant rise in the river. Without rain, even 350 cfm's drops the reservoir. Can't see them increasing the flow much without rain.
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According to the 2009 rule book, dropshotting is unlawful.
Hard to believe how much the upper reservoir has dropped in the last few weeks without a significant rise in the river. Without rain, even 350 cfm's drops the reservoir. Can't see them increasing the flow much without rain.
Thanks for the heads up on the RES! I'll take a drive up and look at it, usually the base flow from above is below 80cfs, so even 335cfs does alot of damage in a drought! Hey trap no lead below the hook on our River, don't know about Oswego, that's what I was doing at the mouth, JIGGING for smallies, but kept hooking Salmon! :w00t:
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where does it say dropshotting is illegal ? as long as my hook is unweighted and no more then 4 foot from the weight!!!! if i'm missing this tell me where
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In addition, when the above special tributary regulations are in effect for Lake Ontario tributaries in Oswego and Cayuga Counties, and the Genesee River (Monroe County) from the Driving Park Bridge upstream to the Lower Falls: weight shall not be added to the line, leader, swivels, artificial fly or lure in any manner such that the weight hangs lower than the attached hook, artificial fly or lure when the line or leader is suspended vertically from the rod.
is this it????
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In addition, when the above special tributary regulations are in effect for Lake Ontario tributaries in Oswego and Cayuga Counties, and the Genesee River (Monroe County) from the Driving Park Bridge upstream to the Lower Falls: weight shall not be added to the line, leader, swivels, artificial fly or lure in any manner such that the weight hangs lower than the attached hook, artificial fly or lure when the line or leader is suspended vertically from the rod.
is this it????
That's the one, it eliminated the famous bullhead rig for salmon! That law put a dent in my fish cleaning business!
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but only till april 14 and where good below the rt 3 bridge and utica street bridge in oswego :)
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march 31 in oswego :)
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ain't it crazy we have to figure ways to beat stupid laws to catch fish =))....ya know maybe golf isn't that bad a sport
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but only till april 14 and where good below the rt 3 bridge and utica street bridge in oswego :)
Buoys at the rocks at our river from August 15th - April 14th I think! I used to drunken golf a 90 or so! :w00t: Got to go trap, nice talking to ya!
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after carefull examining of the special regulations it occures to me underwater explosives are completely legal if you have a four foot leader and insert the hook in a fishes mouth floating on the surface after the explosion!
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Hey Snagger my buddy 007 says hes good friends with you.And is staying at your lodge right now.Hows he been doing up there,is he bringing many salmon in to be cleaned this week?Heard he is getting alot of hookups,just hard to stay buttoned up.
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Just checked the upper Big Res., she's down about 8 feet from high water mark at the spill gates! I've seen much worse, but we aint getting any water above 335 for a long time! Plants and trees aren't using water anymore after that frost, so if we get a couple good rains we should be OK, if it continues to be dry, they might have to lower it to 285! 007 has been hitting em pretty good CP! Hey MAYER how did you do over the weekend?
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Thanks for the heads up on the RES! I'll take a drive up and look at it, usually the base flow from above is below 80cfs, so even 335cfs does alot of damage in a drought! Hey trap no lead below the hook on our River, don't know about Oswego, that's what I was doing at the mouth, JIGGING for smallies, but kept hooking Salmon! :w00t:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I was at a local shop in Erie and they had all the riggings to drift beads. This is really gaining in popularity in Alaska and was wondering as to the legalities in NY. I guess it is in PA, but I live in NY and fish the Erie tribs and the Salmon River. For those that aren't familiar with drifting beads, you slide a bead up the line a couple of inches above and where you tie on a hook. Then you take and pin the bead with a stopper to the line. There is no "bait" on the hook which is bare. Input? I really want to try this method but don't need to get pinched.
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With the beads check the NYS handbook for the maximum distance from the hook to bead. I think the distance from hook to bait/lure can;t be anymore than 1.5". The theory of setting them 3-4" above hook is so that they don't suck in the hook. I see a lot of guys get carried away on sizes and colors of beads. When I use them I use one color and millimeter size and do fine. I don't use them a whole lot. If you want to get technical most everyone who float fishes with weight just below the float/bobber is breaking the 4 foot rule.
Hopefully these minor technicalities son't bother anyone.
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this may have already been said but what is the point of the 4ft leader rule? and also, if a leader must be 4 ft or less, how can a person flyfishing with a 8ft+ leader be legal?
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after carefull examining of the special regulations it occures to me underwater explosives are completely legal if you have a four foot leader and insert the hook in a fishes mouth floating on the surface after the explosion!
You my friend are really something!!! :w00t:Now where did I put those m-80's ::)--KP
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where does it say dropshotting is illegal ? as long as my hook is unweighted and no more then 4 foot from the weight!!!! if i'm missing this tell me where
Trap,
I got a ticket in Oswego a few years back for having a sinker below the hook. Officer told me it's considered a weighted hook. 75$ Fine
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The guys I got staying here gave me a couple phone calls! Decent Run going through the lower end from these SouthEast winds! Studied the weather, don't look good! Warmer with only some showers next few days, no REAL RAIN til maybe NEXT Tuesday. Last year the Hatchery forced the Power Company to run 750cfs from September 27th-4th of October to get fish to move! Hope they do it this year! Hey fishman no lead above 4 feet, so people don't line fish in the mouth. That's there theory, I guess! We just nickname it a leader law, allowed 15 feet of mono in fly zone!
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guys had splitshot on in fly zone when i was watching from the bridge. I thought they made a law against that too?
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Hey fishman no lead above 4 feet, so people don't line fish in the mouth. That's there theory, I guess! We just nickname it a leader law, allowed 15 feet of mono in fly zone!
but flyfisher people in regular areas have to follow the 4 ft law?
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My guests just got back with coolers of kings and coho's, Great Run going through LB! :w00t: Got to go clean them!
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Trap,
I got a ticket in Oswego a few years back for having a sinker below the hook. Officer told me it's considered a weighted hook. 75$ Fine
yep i know and thank you Issiah but i can drop shot from utica street bridge down in oswego and rt 3 bridge down on salmon river and after march 14 ( i think in all of oswego) i don't want to snag salmon i want to drop shot pink worms and gobie flys for steelies and browns :)
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2 "Trappers" on the same thread :o :blink: :w00t:
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there both me seven lol i messed up signing in
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:rotflol: :rotflol: Thats funny i figured i was gonna start gettin confused if there were 2 of ya ;D
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Got guys covering different areas Tuesday, it will be interesting to see how wide this Run was! My buddy said it was more SILLY than Labor Day Weekend RUN! Also some very odd ball size kings and coho's coming into the fillet station lately. They appear to be very small 3 Year olds. I hope there not weak 3 year olds! Never seen nothing like it in 18 years of fish cleaning! Sizes like 3-5lb coho's and 8-10lb kings, already cleaned a couple hybrids too! 1 nice skamanian today too!
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Man O man what a day!! I got up late like every other day I've been up here. ::) We walked down to the river at 12:30 and started right into them, it was one after another for a few hours! Ended up having to run back to Altmar Outfitters to get more hooks and weights. :o Hoping the run wasn't over yet we ran back and low and behold the runs is still in full swing. We go back to drilling one after another till a little before dark. We stopped a little early cause we were so freaking tired, and had to drag our limits all the way back up to the cars. I've been up here since Thursday and I've had the best week in Pulaski with Lambaste, I've learned some great spots and he flat out put me on fish!!! BIG TIME!!! :flex: :w00t:
We will see what tomorrow brings, i fore see ALOT of fish!! ;D
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Had fun fishing with you 007 ;D Hooked over a 100 fish today at the LB, was non stop and didnt start fishing untill after noon, looking forward to what tomorrow brings! :w00t:
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WHOLY COW IT'S RAINING!, a small line of moderate rain is right over Oswego County! And SouthEast winds to boot! Man we needed the rain bad! Not the rain of the century, but we will take ANYTHING we can get! A little bit of color from the sewer drains in Pulaski can go a long ways! COME ON RAIN, only time I'm glad I'm wrong about predictions! Should be a BANNER DAY! GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY! ;D
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POUND EM BOYS !!!!!!! snagger getting any browns in????? such as females when ya do get extra can ya pm me you know what i'm looking for ;D lost a qrt jar duhhhhhhhhhh
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WHOLY COW IT'S RAINING!, a small line of moderate rain is right over Oswego County! And SouthEast winds to boot! Man we needed the rain bad! Not the rain of the century, but we will take ANYTHING we can get! A little bit of color from the sewer drains in Pulaski can go a long ways! COME ON RAIN, only time I'm glad I'm wrong about predictions! Should be a BANNER DAY! GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY! ;D
what are you doing up and about so early??
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Early Tuesday Fishing Report: had guys at Ball park and Lb that said it was slower ( 1or 2 fish every 5 minutes or so going by at LB, Ball park was a little bit better)! Also had a guest stop by DSR and was told that it wasn't worth buying a pass! So I think yesterdays fish for the most part are already mid River. Maybe some of the fish holding in the larger pools will move through the rapids mid day to create a few short bananzas with the cloud cover and drizzle! Just watched the 9 weather, a better chance of a T-Storm tomorrow afternoon and the rain has been bumbed up to Sunday now with Colder temps on Monday - Tuesday & posible lake effect rain showers! Sounds Good too me!
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I am ready for next tuesday-Thursday. cya tomorrow also Snagger the Dahmer is coming too. ;D
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guys had splitshot on in fly zone when i was watching from the bridge. I thought they made a law against that too?
Can still use lead, but the weight shall not propel your fly, what ever that means! :wacko: Just like no lead above four feet or you will hook too many in the mouth! :blink:
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also Snagger the Jeffrey Dahmer is coming too. ;D
Good to know, i'll lock up my cat! :w00t: I'm going out on a limb, I think there will be a good Run next week with posible Lake effect in forecast! Not these little hot, but short runs of late!
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GOOD RUN NEXT WEEK :clapping: :thumbup_smilie: we are comin out next friday, will catch up with ya sometime next week snagger......thanks for keepin us updated and keeping me PUMPED ;D
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We are also headed out next friday. Cant wait. See ya next friday Shane.
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Had a few Vetrans at the Ball Park who said it was pretty good! Hey MAYOR you should try to get to your Roller today. Heard a few browns mixed in, one over 15lbs landed there so far, plus a few steelies! wish I could go, well back to work! >:(
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Can still use lead, but the weight shall not propel your fly, what ever that means! :wacko: Just like no lead above four feet or you will hook too many in the mouth! :blink:
At the Hatchery directly inside there is a table with literature on the fly zone regulations including the weight issue.
According to the literature your floating fly line must be what propels the fly. I fish the fly zones every now and then just to change it up a little. It's interesting to watch the elite squad line salmon with spey rods. They seem just as good at lining Salmon as anyone.
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A slow ending to the day at the ball park and LB, but had guys at the elsewhere that did OK! A friend said a few fish were moving late at DSR! Looks like back to spurts again tomorrow! We'll see! GOOD LUCK BOYS!
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It was slow today but had a good time watching it was nice to relax unlike yesterday CHAOS :o :o :o
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i totally agree with the snagger we get that rain were going to see a wall of fish come up..... after that i hope the small tribs get a good run too ! snagger ya got mail bro ......snagger you got any buck shot for slingys???????
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When you make the slingy's... do you pack it in parachute cord sealed at both ends?
I guess I'm asking... what do you use?
and do you have to use a floating line? Or can you use a sink tip?
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i pack the cord with the buck shot then melt the end with a lighter and pinch it make them different sizes , i use them with my noodle rod not my fly rod! if you have a expensive fly rod your crazy to be putting any amount of weight on that leader you cast and have that shot hit your rod you have a broken rod!......i guess what i'm saying is when you flyfish , me personally i flyfish ,put your weight in the fly not shot crimped on your leader..... and honestly i don't care how you catch salmon "HONESTLY" but hate seeing broken flyrods and good people getting tickets for having fun
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i pack the cord with the buck shot then melt the end with a lighter and pinch it make them different sizes , i use them with my noodle rod not my fly rod! if you have a expensive fly rod your crazy to be putting any amount of weight on that leader you cast and have that shot hit your rod you have a broken rod!......i guess what i'm saying is when you flyfish , me personally i flyfish ,put your weight in the fly not shot crimped on your leader..... and honestly i don't care how you catch salmon "HONESTLY" but hate seeing broken flyrods and good people getting tickets for having fun
I used to make the kits for shops years ago, Me and a guy named Scott eno or something! I still got the ram rod and brass tube for filling the parachute cord! I used to buy the cord from the "Sportmans guide cataloge", all it is is military parachute cord! I got some buck shot left ( 2 different sizes for 2 different size cords), but not much! Used to have guys from NJ bring it up with them! Catch ya later Trap!
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Early Wednesday the 23rd Word on the Street is a blast of Coho's is moving through the LB, Staircase and have just made it to the ball Park, some kings too and a few Brownies as Well! Got guys down there that called on there cells that say 3 or 4 guys on at a time!
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hey just a little note ,you guys that plan on steelheading later on coho eggs are much better then king eggs just one step behind brownie eggs ;D ;D ;D ;D
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hey just a little note ,you guys that plan on steelheading later on coho eggs are much better then king eggs just one step behind brownie eggs ;D ;D ;D ;D
LOOSE COHO EGGS are HARD to come by some years! Wow is it Warm & Muggy out, 80 degrees! Just did some errons and Ball Park was just OK, but the Staircase,could see quite a few hook ups from the high bridge! Had guys here yesterday say that it is POSTED on both Sides of the Papermill just up from the Trestle bridge! Looks like it's starting already, heard RUMORS that the native Indians from the Casino have plans on making another Pay area from 2A to 81! We'll See!
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hey just a little note ,you guys that plan on steelheading later on coho eggs are much better then king eggs just one step behind brownie eggs ;D ;D ;D ;D
I wonder why the fish prefer one over the other.
Is it because they stock less browns than cohos and less cohos than browns?
Cohos, Kings and Steelies are all pacific fish and Browns are Atlantic/European.
Whatever the case, they definately like those golden brown eggs.
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I wonder why the fish prefer one over the other.
Is it because they stock less browns than cohos and less cohos than browns?
Cohos, Kingss and Steelies are all pacific fish and Browns are Atlantic/European.
Whatever the case, they definately like thos golden brown eggs.
Brownie eggs are much smaller and very golden yellow, where as Coho eggs are smaller than kings, but bigger than brownies! I like the smaller size, lets you tie more into a sac, that way during my drift I can pop one every other drift to juice the hole! Gets alot of scent into a dead pool, creates little flurries sometimes on slow days! I mean during steelie season, not now!
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does anyone know where a steelhead fisherman can get brown or coho eggs that doesn't have the oppurtunity or knowledge to get eggs on his own?
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does anyone know where a steelhead fisherman can get brown or coho eggs that doesn't have the oppurtunity or knowledge to get eggs on his own?
Fillet stations in NY for Coho eggs, trout eggs are illegal to sell. Could try hatchery system in PA, heard they sell them!
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Anyone been to the hatchery...It's FULL of STEELHEAD...Not many Kings at all...Some nice Browns too
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thanks for the info. maybe there will be a few coho left when i start fishing in the later part of winter
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Anyone been to the hatchery...It's FULL of STEELHEAD...Not many Kings at all...Some nice Browns too
REALLY! sure there not cohos, probably not enough water in beaver brook for kings! Hey fishermantime coho's spawn really late out your way if theres no water in the smaller creeks! Was catching Coho's out of schoolhouse pool side trib til January last winter!
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Head over there it's crazy!! Hundreds of Steelhead!!!
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They all have Pink Stripes Running down the side...
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Head over there it's crazy!! Hundreds of Steelhead!!!
I believe you, probably skammies!
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I dare say 1000's packed like sadines, the little creek is full too Fins every witch way...
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I dare say 1000's packed like sadines, the little creek is full too Fins every witch way...
The ones in the creek are definetlly salmon, steelies spawn in late winter-spring! I have heard of very few real steelies mixed in with the Salmon so far this year! Good reports on browns last 2 days though!
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I was shocked I kept tellin my buddy that Steelhead spawn in the Spring I can't understand why there is so many. Pink Stripes all over the place 5-10lbers few 12-15 mixed in
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Perhaps they were Coho's One's I have caught have always been SIlver Do coho's take on a Pink hue?
Now that I think about it, their heads were "Pointy" like salmon, But they had that pink stripe running down the side...
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My buddy said it's so SILLY with COHO's down River, he's leaving to get his six year old son! He'll have a blast, said pods of 30 at a time going by him most of the day. They probably are coho's at the hatchery!
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I cruised by the Hatchery on Sunday afternoon before heading home and the raceway had a ton of Cohos in there... Including some big boys! Even though the fishing sucked over the weekend, it was nice to be out.
Sounds like a lot of fish coming in! To be honest, we saw only FOUR salmon move through the DSR on Saturday. It was pathetic... We staged right at a nice 'funnel' through which every running fish has got to pass through on their way upriver. Dead as could be. We saw one fish caught (lifted), but otherwise it was just a river full of dissapointed anglers. To top it off, two of those Salmon we saw were heading DOWNRIVER!
It was a really tough day. But I guess it's always a gamble making the drive out there.
Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn't.
See you guys in late October or November from the steelies and brownies! My next several weekends are reserved for native brookies and some big pike in the ADKs. Short drive and reliable fishing, ha!
I sure wish I was in Pulaski this week though!
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I cruised by the Hatchery on Sunday afternoon before heading home and the raceway had a ton of Cohos in there... Including some big boys! Even though the fishing sucked over the weekend, it was nice to be out.
Sounds like a lot of fish coming in! To be honest, we saw only FOUR salmon move through the DSR on Saturday. It was pathetic... We staged right at a nice 'funnel' through which every running fish has got to pass through on their way upriver. Dead as could be. We saw one fish caught (lifted), but otherwise it was just a river full of dissapointed anglers. To top it off, two of those Salmon we saw were heading DOWNRIVER!
It was a really tough day. But I guess it's always a gamble making the drive out there.
Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn't.
See you guys in late October or November from the steelies and brownies! My next several weekends are reserved for native brookies and some big pike in the ADKs. Short drive and reliable fishing, ha!
I sure wish I was in Pulaski this week though!
Man you should here all the good reports today Jimmy, my guys struggled saturday too! Most stayed up River, then hit the fish lower on Sunday! Justed Rained hard, but only for 10 minutes, hopefully we get more, still some on radar up in Canada! Also heard more kings than coho's at Ball park, all Coho's lower!
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Has anyone ever fished the grindstone creek up near pulaski? im staying at the campground next month and wondering if it is worth the time to fish it of just head over to the Salmon River? thanx
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commin up Sunday & Monday. the only spots i know are the ball park , staircase, town pool, LBH, & a spot in Altmar??? got any other spots i can try. not familiar?? with the area. Thanks for the info.
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Has anyone ever fished the grindstone creek up near pulaski? im staying at the campground next month and wondering if it is worth the time to fish it of just head over to the Salmon River? thanx
It's a decent tributary when there is water. Currently it is extremely low. Definately gets kings and Steelhead. It's hard to park in the winter due to gigantic snowbanks at the parking areas. Sometimes they plow and sometimes not. I like to walk from the park up.
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It is POURING here right now....doesnt do the river much good cause im 3 hours away but at least its rainin somewhere in ny ::)
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Has anyone ever fished the grindstone creek up near pulaski? im staying at the campground next month and wondering if it is worth the time to fish it of just head over to the Salmon River? thanx
i fish grindstone alot if you follow it up aways there is a dec parking area and access point years past i have done very well there and did well on steelies and browns as well however it is a small stream also most of it is privately owned so please be careful if you drop anything ....right now it is very low but a good rain brings it up fast
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commin up Sunday & Monday. the only spots i know are the ball park , staircase, town pool, LBH, & a spot in Altmar??? got any other spots i can try. not familiar?? with the area. Thanks for the info.
Those are most of the Hot Spots, could try the Papermill off 2A or walk down from sportsman pool in the slate Runs! Sometimes just walk a little to get away from the larger groups near parking areas!
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Has anyone ever fished the grindstone creek up near pulaski? im staying at the campground next month and wondering if it is worth the time to fish it of just head over to the Salmon River? thanx
Hey a fellow sox fan! I never liked the tea color of grindstone or it's access problems, but they do run it in decent numbers, browns too! I used to fish the other branches of it up higher for steelies in spring when I was younger. It needs water though! Atleast give it a look while your here! Stop by my fish cleaning station while your up, I'll tell you about some better tributaries than Grindstone to try if theres water in them! GO RED SOX! Hope you have a great trip! ;D
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We ended up getting a second good storm today! Got close to an inch of rain between the 2 storms! Plus 5/8 of an inch a few days ago, won't be long and the creeks will be producing! Probably the next GOOD RAIN A good solid day from the LB to the Ball Park, I don't know about best push in years like DSR said, but it was good! Also the fish from a few days ago got Altmar going today also! Had a half loose female king and one male shooting sperm today in the fillet station! first ones this year! Should be setting up in the Ellis Cove area soon!
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the dsr hails a 95 degree day in july the greats salmon run in modern history!
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Snagger...
Where is that fish cleanin station at? hopefully well be comin in there often!!! We will be up columbus day weekend (thursday Till tuesday) i cant wait to get up there...GO RED SOX!!!!
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NO REPORTS YET, but DSR said best run in years ended, didn't they say that the labor day weekend was the biggest push they had ever seen! They've been around since 88, so why aren't the fish stacked on top of each other across the street from me with all these Record breaking RUNS! Well let you know what I hear a little later, most fish are probably mid River with the tail end of yesterday's run maybe in the Ball Park! We need a good king Run, too many Coho's lately! Catch ya later!
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town was not too hot yesterday. i ended up 3 of 4 with 2 kings and a big brown my buddy and his girlfriend each landed 1, his being a king hers a brown. hey it was good meeting ya snagger. dont know what that hole is called but it was the one if you take a right before you go over the bridge in pulaski and park behind the abandoned building on the left
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Early Thursday Report: I'm really busy, but heres a short report. Had guys at the Staircase and LB, it sucked, there at the Ball Park now, said it's good with lots of kings and FAST moving COHO'S! Don't know how long it will last with bright sun!! Actually just got done cleaning a pile of fish with loose eggs from a Creek! Next week should be a decent Run in the creeks if we get the forcasted rain and Lake Effect! People at this end of the River are doing OK, but it aint on fire YET!!
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town was not too hot yesterday. i ended up 3 of 4 with 2 kings and a big brown my buddy and his girlfriend each landed 1, his being a king hers a brown. hey it was good meeting ya snagger. dont know what that hole is called but it was the one if you take a right before you go over the bridge in pulaski and park behind the abandoned building on the left
Hey nice meeting you, your buddy and his girlfriend, great pic's you had! Catch ya later! That's the old Ninemo building!
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Did really good 2 the clam shed pool today,alot of cohos early then kings around 1:00 .Had 1 big king on with a 18" lamphrey stuck to him guess where my hook was..yes on the lamphrey . He stayed sucked to the king for about 5 min finally he let go then i had to get the thing off my hook!Their nasty!
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went to one of those little creeks down my way snag .....all by myself no one around and life is good ;D
snagger whats the flow like there any change?????? just got a crazy idea lol
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Good friend of mine caught one of the Coho's? with it's pink spawning stripe.
(https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi135.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq147%2FIssiaht%2FPinkCoho.jpg&hash=fde92fa874865279f4253e514654bf3d)
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very nice pic too
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Early Thursday Report: I'm really busy, but heres a short report. Had guys at Staircase and LB it sucked, there at the Ball Park now, said it's good with lots of kings and FAST moving coho's. Don't know how long it will last with bright sun!! Actually just got done cleaning a pile of fish with loose eggs from a creek! NEXT week should be a good run in creeks if we end up getting lake effect! People at this end of the River are doing OK, but it aint on FIRE yet!
Hey snagger I was a bad egg reaper today. Only Coho (some beauties ;) )and a huge Male king. fished from upper black to the handicap access area we hooked alot of fish and had a blast.
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Hey Mayor, give me a report
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Late Thursday September 24th Report: Still more COHO'S Moving threw the whole lower end with the Ball Park being the best spot, But some more started showing up again at the LB in small numbers at dark! This end of the River is now accumulating alot of kings and coho's in the bigger pools! Talked to a friend who fished the lake and on his way in said the Port was stacked with more Coho's and smaller kings again! Where are all the bigger kings? Filleted a few browns today & a guest got a knarely 18lb male Brown, that is at the taxidermy now. He already had given them a 13lber the day before, so swapped it out for the bigger one! Heard of alot of browns taken this past week and some nice steelies! WHAT A GREAT WEEK IT WAS! With temps in the low 40's tonight and in the 30's friday night, should keep them moving! Hopefully in good numbers, if not, alot has accumulated up River! Can't wait for the next RAIN! Enjoy yourselves this weekend everybody! ;D
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10:10 AM and No DSR report, must not be good news! Most of my guys going home and new ones coming in, so no reports from down low YET! I do notice a HUGE difference in vehichles at the Altmar Parking lot this morning! The CROWDS have shown up for the year! It is REAL windy out with temps in the 40's right now! I'll give another report later. Catch ya later guys!
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Friday September 25th Fishing report: Had guys down low Everywhere and they said just a few fish around, the Run from a couple days ago has moved upstream and nothing New came in to replace them! Looks like it will be crowded upriver this weekend! Well Friday again, not much talking on here! Learned something new reading the DSR, didn't know Sunny warm conditions got fish moving! There is hope for later in the weekend though, especially late Sunday. East winds start tonight, along with cooler temps and posible Rain on Sunday! Cooler night temps tonight COULD trigger the fish in the port to leave, East winds could bring in New fish to the Port, which this time won't Hold if it's Raining. We'll see! Everything still looks good for next week! HAVE FUN THIS WEEKEND!
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I am beginning to think those Salmon now realize when a weekend is about to begin and decide to hide in the lake... The midweek runs sound so strong, but the weekends have been rough, huh?
As for the DSR... I sure do like that water, but they seem to like to take the usual "fishermans exaggeration" to a whole new level... It's pretty ridiculous, really...
I am sticking with Snaggers reports before driving ANYWHERE from now on... Thanks, Brother!
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Latest DSR report: a large school of brightly colored Mahi Mahi have entered the River. Also noted, any more happy lifters chasing fish, and running around the pools will not be tolerated!!
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Latest DSR report: a large school of brightly colored Mahi Mahi have entered the River. Also noted, any more happy lifters chasing fish, and running around the pools will not be tolerated!!
:clapping: :w00t: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :w00t: :w00t: :clapping: And remember guys, now that all the fish are upriver in the larger pools, be careful about bending the ridiculous rules they have in place! Don't want anyones weekend spoiled by getting written up! and if you take it in, take it out! It's the trash they use as an excuse to post the River, not Greed!
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IT HAS BEEN REPORTED THAT A LARGE POD OF SNAKEHEAD'S ARE PREVENTING THE SALMON FROM THE DSR AREA ON THE WEEKEND'S SO EVERYONE MUST FISH UP RIVER TO AVOID THE SNAKEHEAD'S : w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :whistling: :whistling:
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Latest DSR report: a large school of brightly colored Mahi Mahi have entered the River. Also noted, any more happy lifters chasing fish, and running around the pools will not be tolerated!!
Do they really chase them around the pool ???? ;DWhat would be considered lifting ?
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I saw a guy actually try to KICK a big King last weekend as it ran DOWNRIVER right past the dude...
I must admit, it was pretty funny... The guy freaked out... We saw so few fish that day that I guess the poor guy decided he'd do whatever he could to get himself a salmon...
For the record- the fish flipped him the bird and then continued swimming towards the lake.
I could have sworn I heard the fish mumble something about "New Jersey" as it left the pool.
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back in the ealy 70's when snagging was legal i seen a guy jump on a salmon coming down the rapids he grabed it with his hands but it had a trible hook in it ! ripped that poor man wide open i gave him a bandana it help stop the bleeding and walked him to his car he was able to drive and headed to the er for a sew job, i really felt sorry for the guy..... don't grab fish! it could end up a lot worse then the ticket
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At times it sounds pretty crazy what people will do to catch fish!! It seems from SNAGGERS reports that the fish are finally starting to run steady!! Hope everyone has a great weekend of fishing!! FISH ON!! What's up SNAGGER and Trapper!!!--KP :)
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Fished until 3 today. As Snagger posted downtown was slow. Lots slower than yesterday. Fish definately seem to be pooled up in the mid to upper river.
Tons of stuff for sale at all the shops on the river.
Breathable waders starting at $65, Okuma spinning rod and reel combos ready to go for $80, fly rod and reel combos already spooled with mono priced around $100. All the shops have everything you need and the workers know what they sell and what works on the river. Bought a new pair of Korkers with carbide studs. I can't believe how well they grip!
Good luck this weekend everyone!
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THAT IS WHAT THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT THE TRASH, BUT THEN WHY ARE THE PRICES TO FISH RISING I AM SURE IT HASNT COST THE DSR MORE MONEYFOR THE FISH THE STATE PROVIDES... WHAT A CROCK OF S$%^. FOR REAL THOUGH MAKE SURE YOU GUYS CLEAN AFTER YOURSELVES OR WE WILL ALL BE IN THE TRESTLE POOL. LOL
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i don't believe in threwing trash around but the dsr is getting 50 bucks a person ! they can afford to pick up! anytime you rent a area then people will treat it that way
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Fished until 3 today. As Snagger posted downtown was slow. Lots slower than yesterday. Fish definately seem to be pooled up in the mid to upper river.
Tons of stuff for sale at all the shops on the river.
Breathable waders starting at $65, Okuma spinning rod and reel combos ready to go for $80, fly rod and reel combos already spooled with mono priced around $100. All the shops have everything you need and the workers know what they sell and what works on the river. Bought a new pair of Korkers with carbide studs. I can't believe how well they grip!
Good luck this weekend everyone!
Hey Jason my buddy Mark said you have been fishing next to him the last few trips! Alot of fun in that spot, isn't it. Too bad we can't fish down below anymore! Hey Trap they get 30 bucks a day at the DSR, It will be 50 soon enough! All these people who love and swear by DSR, don't Remember how great it was there before 88 for free! Best years of my life, fishing on this River back then! But with time comes change, not always for the better in my opinion! Oh well enough said already!!
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Late day Friday fishing report: Well just as expected the crowds started showing up right on schedule, not a super zoo, but alot more than yesterday by far! Fishing was pretty good up at this end of the River today for the people I know and SOME new fish arrived just before dark down River ( probably fish moving from one large hole to another, not from the port)! The Port is really loaded up again, just a matter of when they decide to take off upstream again! GOOD LUCK!
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Oh man...
It's 30 bucks...
Granted, it would be better if it's free... But I didn't see a single peice of trash in the DSR last weekend (except for the guys who tried to chase and kick a salmon)... I've got to give them credit in the fact that you can EASILY walk a two-mile section of the river without trouble and fish where you wish.
The middle of the river is where you see the dumps of mono, coffee cups, and other trash.
I am not the biggest fan on the 'pay to fish' aspect, but false accusations without merit make us all look bad. We can all poke fun at the B.S. fishing reports the DSR posts, but no one can say it is full of litter down there. It's immaculate.
Truth is, the DSR is the cleanest part of the river. And most accessible if you kick down the cash.
I just wish I had the cash more often, I guess. I don't support the idea of the DSR, but we're all shooting ourselves in the face if we say it is trashed and unkempt. Jeepers, it is like a park down there!
Its the rest of the d**n river that needs our help. The finger-pointing is in the wrong direction.
Look at the whole river, then post 'opinions' when there is evidence to warrent it. "Our" parts of the river are a downright disgrace. You wouldn't believe the crap I saw floating downstream...
You love this amazing fishery? Then treat it accordingly... Resident or not... We're all in this together.
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well said Jimmy. Down right disrespect for nature and other wildlife that choke,get tangled, or poisoned by the stuff our fellow fishermen and women through in and around the river. Discusting PIGS is all i can say.
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i'm not saying litter! i said the DSR is patroled and cleaned daily! reason they pay people and it's not hear say i had a lady friend that worked there! my comment is simply this when people pay to fish a area they feel they own it and will toss more stuff on the ground , trust me the dsr gets litter it's just it's picked up ever day! the 30 dollars is supposed to go up to 50, reason i'm not in favor of the DSR has nothing to do with it being a paid to fish area at all it has to do with some people being treated differently then others and all of a sudden a boat can't go down a controled water released river! and i was fishing the dsr before it was paid back in the 60 and 70's
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I never said DSR had alot of trash, it shouldn't have any! Up here in Altmar, the DEC parking lots and roadside is picked up by inmates of the Oswego county corrections! They come fairly regularly! When I lived in Ithaca years ago, people on public assistance used to do odd jobs like that, I believe it was called workfare! I have noticed a difference in the trash over the years, used to be beer cardboard, cans and line. Now it's coffee cups, water bottles and still fishing line( now just more expensive fluorocarbon and fly line), must be that better class of fishermen we have now! The trash is better looking, but it's still trash. 30 years and nothings changed, I would have to say that during the winter, it's worse than it was 16 years ago! Me and my buddies will keep doing our part and pick it up from time to time! There was a time when there was trash cans and even dumpters up here, but they kept getting full from regular people trying to save money from the rising cost of waste removal in this State! After a good weekend I have to pick up my Property, that's part of my job! But it's TOTAL BLATENT GREED, WHY THE RIVER IS BEING PRIVATISED THOUGH! Nothing to do with anything else!
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HOLY COW, YOU SHOULD SEE THE CARS IN ALTMAR they are along the road, because the parking lots are full! It's like a carnival! It's offically ZOOLOU SEASON! :w00t:
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ya get a run of snakeheads and people come from neaR AND FAR LOL
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All that i know is that slowly the river is being posted and soon we are all gonna be in the trestle hooking the same fish swimming around in circles. That really bothers me! Also the fact that not only do you have to pay but you have to Fish the way they want you too, upper class bull @#$@.
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Well enough about the decline in fishing areas for the average guy... How has the fishing been? Where are the kings cuz I have never seen so many silver cohos. Herd there is kings flowing in this morning? anyone confirm that? Planing on going up monday little bow huntung and sum fishing. Snagger give me a call toninte
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Fish are scattered all over according to my buddy on the river today. A few kings here and there and still a good number of cohos (aka pointy headed steelhead :-\)
Hey snagger- Your buddy Mark is a good guy. I have seen him alot during steelhead season. He put all three of his guys on fish again right off the bat on top of dealing with people like me overcasting and the such. I left that area early the other day after I wrapped up my rod about 4 times and then bent a guide. I will blame it on the rock I was in front of that kept steeling my sinkers :laugh: :laugh:
Looking forward to buying a float trip from him this winter. I know I will learn alot.
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After looking at the radar and Working outside in these MONSTER SouthEast winds, I got a feeling that the biggest Run of the year is about to Happen! With these winds the port should be filling up as we speak and if the rains are Heavy tonight, ALL HECK IS GOING TO BREAK LOOSE! We'll see! Hey fishinaddict, I'de get up here for tomorrow and MONDAY! If it rains hard enough could have the first run of the year in the CREEKS! :w00t:
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as soon as theres water yes snagger the creeks will fill with fish ,fact is it's late i beaned a few in a few creeks but the water is so low you can walk up and put the fly in there mouth not much fun no water for them to fight .... it's here so i think everyone should grab there waders and have some fun!
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After looking at the radar and Working outside in these MONSTER SouthEast winds, I got a feeling that the biggest Run of the year is about to Happen! With these winds the port should be filling up as we speak and if the rains are Heavy tonight, ALL HECK IS GOING TO BREAK LOOSE! We'll see! Hey fishinaddict, I'de get up here for tomorrow and MONDAY! If it rains hard enough could have the first run of the year in the CREEKS! :w00t:
Friends called from the PORT and it's boiling with fish! Winds are HOWLING out of the southeast right now, all we need now is the RAIN! Just cleaned some Silver Kings from down lower already! Hey Trap, King Perch stopped by with his son, when you going to stop by some time?
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Snagger - which place is yours ?
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Snagger - which place is yours ?
The Crazy House in Altmar! 2nd place on the right after crossing the Altmar Bridge! (A.O.L.)
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Saturday September 26Th Report: Another mediocre Saturday with just fish swimming in circles in the pools and some movement at first light and a little at dark in the rapids and riffles! Much more fish were hooked in the upper part of the River than down River by my guys, Coho's are starting to get some nice reds and pink on them! ;D So far, the first batch of rain looks like it's going to drop about a half inch, not enough too raise the smaller creeks, but should get a GOOD RUN going in the the lower part of the River Tomorrow! I'm still hoping that more rain Re-developes southwest of here overnight or else we will have to wait for the next rain for the creeks! We'll see come morning, I got my fingers crossed! See you tomorrow and GOOD LUCK OUT THERE!
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1 AM and still raining good, Radar keeps filling in to the southwest of us! :w00t: I wonder how many fish blew through DSR tonight UNDETECTED? :D
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Latest DSR Report: The latest Run of the Century of new fish have moved in overnight. We are currently placing a large fence accross the lower black hole to reduce further fish migration so as to make sure that our paying customers have priority access to the fish. We also insist that if you are, or have been a customer that you not intermix with those up river thugs. Show your support!! This week only get a super froggy smiling happy hat when you bring a friend!! :laugh:
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Latest DSR Report: The latest Run of the Century of new fish have moved in overnight. We are currently placing a large fence across the lower black hole to reduce further fish migration so as to make sure that our paying customers have priority access to the fish. We also insist that if you are, or have been a customer that you not intermix with those up river thugs. Show your support!! This week only get a super froggy smiling happy hat when you bring a friend!! :laugh:
Hey Wayno, What about the Mahi Mahi ? Do you think they can jump that fence? and are there any Tuna following them?I here there allot of fun on a fly.
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(actual dsr suggestions) we have been asked for a list of things to enhance your fishing experance here on barclays river formerly known as salmon river...we suggest a pair of good quilty sunglasses suchs as oakleys next a good fishing vest hopefuly it will have a orvis logo (the logo makes it perfom better) next please being your own refreshments! "we do not want you fraternizing with common towns people!" make sure you bring a camera in case some one accidently hooks a fish according to our rules and we deam it a fair fish, we will allow this fish to be passed around for the purpose of pictures. it is highly suggested you do not listen to any other reports other then ours! internet reports such as those on fishing sites can only cause you confusion !!!! we at the dsr take great pride in makeing sure our fish go no further up the river then our property! any reports of fish further up the river are accidently fish that got pass our trained salmon drivers with there 4 wheelers..... remeber if you are willing to fish by OUR rules,have more money then brains, or have a feeling of entitlment the dsr may be for you! thank you
the dsr staff
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I think the state should make them put money into the conservation fund after all the fish that their customers are catching are bought and paid for by our purchasing of a licence
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I think the state should make them put money into the conservation fund after all the fish that their customers are catching are bought and paid for by our purchasing of a licence
:clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
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Has the DSR looked into running a helicopter fly-in service yet for there costumers? I'm sure most of them most hate the long hike into the river. As you know you could get scratched or even worse a bug might even crawl on you!
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WOW, my stomache hurts, you guys are too funny! We got 1 5/8 inches of rain last night, but the ground needed it! Just got back from checking the creeks, they came up, but not alot, with that said they were dragging stringers of Coho's from the lower ends! Actually timing was poor, creeks weren't up all night, they just came up at daybreak, so there wasn't alot of time for fish to get in them! Hopefully we get more rain! Just talked to a friend and the fish are on the MOVE at the LB!
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this whole DSR thing still amazes me.....how did they acquire so much land or permission around this river without many others putting up a fight. Really bizarre.....it's great for people who pay for the daily tags and lodge guests and stinks for locals
just crappy....and clever at the same time
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The Crazy House in Altmar! 2nd place on the right after crossing the Altmar Bridge! (A.O.L.)
When you drive into Altmar, just roll down your window and listen for the sound of a rock concert!! :w00t: Follow that sound until you see Altmar Outfitters!! Your there!! Snagger, didn't make it to your place this morning, raining pretty good and we don't need Josh sick for school. Going to be up this week! You may have a future river guide on your hands in a few years, My boy thinks the whole salmon river is the greatest place on earth!! Hook him up!!--KP
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(actual dsr suggestions) we have been asked for a list of things to enhance your fishing experance here on barclays river formerly known as salmon river...we suggest a pair of good quilty sunglasses suchs as oakleys next a good fishing vest hopefuly it will have a orvis logo (the logo makes it perfom better) next please being your own refreshments! "we do not want you fraternizing with common towns people!" make sure you bring a camera in case some one accidently hooks a fish according to our rules and we deam it a fair fish, we will allow this fish to be passed around for the purpose of pictures. it is highly suggested you do not listen to any other reports other then ours! internet reports such as those on fishing sites can only cause you confusion !!!! we at the dsr take great pride in makeing sure our fish go no further up the river then our property! any reports of fish further up the river are accidently fish that got pass our trained salmon drivers with there 4 wheelers..... remeber if you are willing to fish by OUR rules,have more money then brains, or have a feeling of entitlment the dsr may be for you! thank you
the dsr staff
Trapper, your killing me buddy!!! That was funny!! :bowdown:--KP
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Hey Wayno, What about the Mahi Mahi ? Do you think they can jump that fence? and are there any Tuna following them?I here there allot of fun on a fly.
The word is (according to the red jacketed altmar guide AKA Douglaston river monitor, I met who made me release a coho that was hooked inside the mouth because I was landing it on the dear senators leased land ) is that the Mahi Mahi run can only be seen with special DSR glasses. Tuna glasses are comming soon!
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(actual dsr suggestions) we have been asked for a list of things to enhance your fishing experance here on barclays river formerly known as salmon river...we suggest a pair of good quilty sunglasses suchs as oakleys next a good fishing vest hopefuly it will have a orvis logo (the logo makes it perfom better) next please being your own refreshments! "we do not want you fraternizing with common towns people!" make sure you bring a camera in case some one accidently hooks a fish according to our rules and we deam it a fair fish, we will allow this fish to be passed around for the purpose of pictures. it is highly suggested you do not listen to any other reports other then ours! internet reports such as those on fishing sites can only cause you confusion !!!! we at the dsr take great pride in makeing sure our fish go no further up the river then our property! any reports of fish further up the river are accidently fish that got pass our trained salmon drivers with there 4 wheelers..... remeber if you are willing to fish by OUR rules,have more money then brains, or have a feeling of entitlment the dsr may be for you! thank you
the dsr staff
Thanks for backing me up.
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The word is (according to the red jacketed altmar guide AKA Douglaston river monitor, I met who made me release a coho that was hooked inside the mouth because I was landing it on the dear senators leased land ) is that the Mahi Mahi run can only be seen with special DSR glasses. Tuna glasses are comming soon!
I new I was going to have to buy some new gear for those fish! Is the DSR the only place up there to purchase a pair?
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Also remember fellas to catch kings, Cohos, and browns equally, so as not to offend any one fish. ???
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what happened was land has been leasted! private owners simply leased there land to barclay originally the dsr was 10 dollars but offered the parking lots a patroled area in case of emercancys and a fisherman was insured, it really wasn't a bad deal ,since those days between greed and trying to cater to the ted turner type crowd it has changed into a orgy of selfrightosness and right out greed
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Will Barclay would like all of you complaining about the DSR to know that you will NOT be allowed the privilege of contributing to his next campaign!
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worse part i defend barclay as a senator ! he has done many good things for the sportsmen of new york and fought gun control!
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From 1996 to 2000, former state Sen. Douglas Barclay's farm in Pulaski, Douglaston Manor Inc., was one of the top recipients of farm subsidies in Oswego County.
Why would a prominent political donor, wealthy lawyer and friend of former President George Bush need a government check to help his family farm?
"Well, it's there," Barclay said of the subsidy.
And the farm meets the qualifications set, he added.
Between 1996 and 2000, Douglaston Manor received $134,456 in subsidies. It was the third most subsidized farm business in the county.
pretty interesting isn't it not only do we pay for the fish to be stocked but the entier farm is tax subsidies!!!!!! now that should peeve ya off!
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From 1996 to 2000, former state Sen. Douglas Barclay's farm in Pulaski, Douglaston Manor Inc., was one of the top recipients of farm subsidies in Oswego County.
Why would a prominent political donor, wealthy lawyer and friend of former President George Bush need a government check to help his family farm?
"Well, it's there," Barclay said of the subsidy.
And the farm meets the qualifications set, he added.
Between 1996 and 2000, Douglaston Manor received $134,456 in subsidies. It was the third most subsidized farm business in the county.
pretty interesting isn't it not only do we pay for the fish to be stocked but the entier farm is tax subsidies!!!!!! now that should peeve ya off!
This should be in a local paper
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BIGGEST RUN OF THE YEAR! is in progress, I was at the LB last hour of dark, and I mean everybody was hooked up with kings. Finally the chinooks are running! You didn't need to be in a roller, good riffle or anything. Just throw your line in anywhere and you would hook a fish! I didn't fish, just was watching, but was temped to take a butt section of a broken pole a guy had sitting on the bank and hook him some fish if I had brought hooks and sinkers! IT WAS TOTALLY SILLY, better than Labor Day Run! Was it the best run in years or ever like DSR always says, NO but it was a great one if you were there!! Funny thing is, there really wasn't that many people there, maybe 30 guys total!
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ALSO CHECKED THE CREEKS they all have fish in them from what I seen being dragged out, but not alot, just some. Water went up a little more since this morning, but not enough for a full force run yet! Also had guys at lower DSR and the Port that said it was non stop all day with KINGS!
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???well i just got back from spending the whole day on the river and it was fair at best started at the ball park around 9:30 seen a few fish hooked after a hour went to the long bridge watched guy's in the staircase for a half hour 1 hook up went to the 2a bridge walked down to the cemetary hole seen maybe ten fish 2 hour's two fish hooked by other guy's 1 myself 3 total left there went to the pineville bridge seen 1 fish roll fished a hour notta went to the trestle guy's were sitting down on the bank's talked to two guy's on shore said they seen ten fish hooked and none landed in about hour and a half went to the route 3 bridge port ontario seen a lot of fish rolling saw a dozen or so hooked off bridge not my thing so we headed to ponderosa for lunch went back to ballpark it was a ghost town maybe ten guy's maybe early morning was good but the rest of the day sucked monkey ball's :cursing: :whistling: :w00t: :rotflol:
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IT FIGURES JUST AFTER I LEFT !!! TODAY WAS GOOD STEADY FISH ALL DAY ENOUGH TO KEEP THE GUYS INTERESTED HOOKED UP A LOT BUT THEY WOULDN'T STAY ON FOR MY GUYS !! TOOK A LONGER THAN USUAL TO GET LIMIT BUT WE HAD FUN IN BETWEEN!! THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS!!! MANAGED TO BREAK MY FAVORITE NET ON A BIG MALE KING WENT TOSCOOP AND HIT A ROCK THAT WASN'T FUN TRYING TO GET THE FISH IN HALF A NET!!!
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HEY JUST WANTED TO SAY I SAW A GUY TODAY TAKE SPLITSHOT JUST ABOVE HIS EYE AND DROPPED TO HIS KNEES IN A HURRY I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO FALL IN OFF THE WALL TOLD A COUPLE OF GUYS ON THAT SIDE TO GO CHECK ON HIM AND THEY HAD TO PICK HIM UP HE REALLY COULDN'T STAND HE HAD TO SIT FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND THE BLOOD WAS REALLY FLOWING HIS WHOLE SIDE OF THE FACE WAS COVERED!!!! GLASSES AREN'T JUST FOR SEEING FISH IT IS A LITTLE PROTECTION FOR THIS REASON PLEASE IF YOU FISH THE RIVER WEAR A PAIR CAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN A FISH IS GOING TO COME OFF THE LINE !!!
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You guys got a little more rain up there today, I was in Osceola all day and it was a light rain all day. The little creek by the bar was starting to flow pretty good, and it was a trickle on Thursday.
You guys stay up there and have fun with Snagger and the crew, i'm going after the jumbo perch this week , :-)
cny
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WAS AT THE LOWER BLACK JUST BEFORE DARK AND IT WAS INSANE! Just about every cast for 2 hours, lost count at 35 hook ups :o , landed my 3 hens and was out of there! :o As much fun as SEPTEMBER 5TH MASICRE!!!!!!!! ;D Hey trapper 2000 that subsidies thing about Barkley is really messed up I live up here and never heard anything about it. He needed the money for the new lease rights and river stewards to patroll it & kick us average guys out who don't use fly line or floats!! >:( Maybe that's why are fishing licences went up to make up for that money missing from the general fund! >:(
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???well i just got back from spending the whole day on the river and it was fair at best started at the ball park around 9:30 seen a few fish hooked after a hour went to the long bridge watched guy's in the staircase for a half hour 1 hook up went to the 2a bridge walked down to the cemetary hole seen maybe ten fish 2 hour's two fish hooked by other guy's 1 myself 3 total left there went to the pineville bridge seen 1 fish roll fished a hour notta went to the trestle guy's were sitting down on the bank's talked to two guy's on shore said they seen ten fish hooked and none landed in about hour and a half went to the route 3 bridge port ontario seen a lot of fish rolling saw a dozen or so hooked off bridge not my thing so we headed to ponderosa for lunch went back to ballpark it was a ghost town maybe ten guy's maybe early morning was good but the rest of the day sucked monkey ball's :cursing: :whistling: :w00t: :rotflol:
Hey crappiekiller stop by the A.O.L. , I'll put you on fish! ;D I grew up in Clinton, fished Oneida Lake my whole life, turned snagger on to it :o I know a little about the salmon river too! :flex: Hey 007 get up here, it's better than last week's coho's! :o
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IT FIGURES JUST AFTER I LEFT !!! TODAY WAS GOOD STEADY FISH ALL DAY ENOUGH TO KEEP THE GUYS INTERESTED HOOKED UP A LOT BUT THEY WOULDN'T STAY ON FOR MY GUYS !! TOOK A LONGER THAN USUAL TO GET LIMIT BUT WE HAD FUN IN BETWEEN!! THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS!!! MANAGED TO BREAK MY FAVORITE NET ON A BIG MALE KING WENT TOSCOOP AND HIT A ROCK THAT WASN'T FUN TRYING TO GET THE FISH IN HALF A NET!!!
Man! What time did you leave? The "Smitty spot" was hot! :w00t: I mean the Mark Roller! I think I could hear Jimmy from hear! :w00t: I really wish I had brought my rod with me for that evening Bonanza! I didn't recognise anybody at dark that was in our spots! Aint no joke, kids are ripping people off up in the black hole parking area again! Hey fishinaddict from Utica, get your butt up here a.s.a.p. before the tailend of this RUN gets too far up MID River! Black Alby you too, spread the word in Ithaca, before it's too late!
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on long island last year a guy was stuck pulled on line,weight hit him im head and killed him!
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Hey crappiekiller stop by the A.O.L. , I'll put you on fish! ;D I grew up in Clinton, fished Oneida Lake my whole life, turned snagger on to it :o I know a little about the salmon river too! :flex: Hey 007 get up here, it's better than last week's coho's! :o
Im leaving work in 30 mins, Ill be on the river about normal time today! ::) ;D
Snagger ill bring up those weights i was telling you about! ;)
See ya in a few hours!!
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EARLY MONDAY FISHING REPORT: Had guys at LB and the Ball Park. The LB is steady, but the big run of last evening is now up at the Ball Park and above. It's a little more spread out, but my guys already came back with there limits of big KINGS! Those fish will be mid River and a bove by later today and Tomorrow. Also had a guy at DSR that said it was very good again down there with kings and some steelies! Talked to guys that fished the creeks and they got there limits, but had to work for them! Hey 007 go to the same spot as wdenesday! Fishinaddict from Utica said the Ball Park is going gangbusters right now for guys that know what there doing! It's pouring out again! :w00t: Catch ya later on!
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IM OUTTA HERE!!!! ;D
See ya in a few!
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Just recieved another 1/4 inch of rain and the national weather service has issued a Severe Thunderstorm Watch Box over our area! That would be the BOMB, if we got a Big T-Storm! Ball Park has slowed a little, but other area's are picking up! Kings I've cleaned this AM are Silver! Can't wait for the storms, maybe lake effect tomorrow too! :clapping:
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hey snagger, do you hear any reports from the pulaski area? Thats probably where we will do most of our fishin cause thats the only couple spots we know to get away from HUGE crowds. Thanks alot for the constant updates and any info you may be able to give me. ;D
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40 plus inch male!
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Way to go guys. I am gonna try to get up there with a friend who has never caught a salmon b4. How are you guys getting them? Sacks, lures, flies? Also a quick update on the rules wouldn't be bad. I'll look them up and see if I can figure them out. Thanx a lot.
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NICE JOB CARPIE! Kid in background is hooked up too, doesn't look crowded either! :D
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hey snagger, do you hear any reports from the pulaski area? Thats probably where we will do most of our fishin cause thats the only couple spots we know to get away from HUGE crowds. Thanks alot for the constant updates and any info you may be able to give me. ;D
The Ball Park, Staircase and LB are in pulaski. They are all spots in the rapids when the fish are on the move( generally evenings or early am, unless a good run, then it lasts all day) I watched the kids on the high wall in town wacking them pretty good with there noodle rods yesterday evening before this new run got up that way! ;D
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IM OUTTA HERE!!!! ;D
See ya in a few!
You are a salmon fanatical,good luck but with your professed skills ya prolly wont need it!!!! ;D
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Yesterday late afternoon/evening was great at the ballpark area and this morning was even better. I don't remember the last time the fishing was as good as it was this morning. Tons of Kings and a few cohos. Pretty good size kings too.
Please pick up any trash, line and coffee cups. The river is already getting loaded up with debri. I picked up probably 20 or more Coffee cups today in a matter of a couple hundred feet.
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Yes the kid in the background did land a female king Sangger.
I was 6 for 20 this morning. I got two Coho's both males and the rest where kings.
I guess the run is on... Here comes the the business for you..
Ready for some Steel in my book! I have a ton of Salmon for smoking want some fresh steelhead!
Fish ran good and heavy from 7am-9:30am. Everybody was hooking up in that time frame. From bend to bend on the river fish on ropes! It got really crowed by 9am and the fish started to hold up in deeper pools,still moving but slower. Should be good in Pineville and and Altmar in the am tomorrow!
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Snagger, Here's that rain you've been waiting for!!! Should force a great run after the storm!! Catch Ya later!!--KP
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Nice fish carppie! I recognize you and your hat.
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hey crappie put a fresh steelie in that smoker you won't be disappointed :)
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40 plus inch male!
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Nice fish !
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I got a 39 incher in 1998. This thing that I got today was a horse!! I gave it to a group of guys NH. I was just awe struck looking at it in the water, by far my best to date! Salmon that is... ;D
I have a 33 and a half inch Brown on the wall and a 35 and a half inch Steelie.
C-ya up there in the Am!! I am bringing up a Salmon virgin!! We have to not be so hard on him boys..
Carppie,OUT!
P.S. Sangger, Where is your shop?? Might stop in with the big Virgin...
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i knew a run would come when i was away. up in the adks for the weekend, it was wet and cold and caught almost no fish. not the most fun. hope there's another run this weekend. have fun
fishman
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Here are some old pictures from the past..lol..
I look dorkey... :P
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The guy in the Wheelchair landed these two fish in the LB part of the river in 97.
Me and King was Dec 18 1996...
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40 plus inch male!
roughly what does a 40 inch salmon weigh?
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I have NO Idea!! Sangger should know that!! ;D If I was to guess 30lbs???
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Way to go guys. I am gonna try to get up there with a friend who has never caught a salmon b4. How are you guys getting them? Sacks, lures, flies? Also a quick update on the rules wouldn't be bad. I'll look them up and see if I can figure them out. Thanks a lot.
If I told you you wouldn't believe me... :laugh: OK I am using a number 6-8 eagle claw egg hook. With Berkley power bait grubs. Hot pink! 15# test big game and 18# fireline..
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JR nice pics it's brian! Show matt how it's done tomorrow!
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Had a good time when i went with you a couple years ago, wish i could go tomorrow, post your pics. BRIAN!
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Will do, they will be up ASAP when I get back..Might take some time with a newbie..
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:w00t:WOW JUST GOT HOME MY ARM'S ARE LIKE JELLO MUST OF HOOKED OVER A HUNDRED FISH LANDED PROBLY 30 NOW THIS WAS A RUN OF FISH LIKE THE OLD DAY'S WENT TO THE BALL PARK AND NEVER LEFT FROM 8-6:30 FROM YESTERDAY TO TODAY WAS LIKE FISHING IN JULY AND LATE SEPTEMBER STEADY RUN OF FISH ALL DAY LONG MOSTLY ALL BIG KING'S LOT'S OF LOOSE FEMALE'S NOW IT'S SALMON TIME BOY'S :thumbup_smilie:
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WAS AT THE LOWER BLACK JUST BEFORE DARK AND IT WAS INSANE! Just about every cast for 2 hours, lost count at 35 hook ups :o , landed my 3 hens and was out of there! :o As much fun as SEPTEMBER 5TH MASICRE!!!!!!!! ;D Hey trapper 2000 that subsidies thing about Barkley is really messed up I live up here and never heard anything about it. He needed the money for the new lease rights and river stewards to patroll it & kick us average guys out who don't use fly line or floats!! >:( Maybe that's why are fishing licences went up to make up for that money missing from the general fund! >:(
Yo DD from what I have heard, the $ is supposed to go to a new fishin pond in Central Park NYC. Thats where most of our money goes any way.
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Hey Snagger 3 guys for the cabin, as registered starting Tomorrow. Plus me I cant wait. COME ON RAIN. I am so stoked! ;D. Cya AM.
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You are a salmon fanatical,good luck but with your professed skills ya prolly wont need it!!!! ;D
It was another BANNER day!!! :o I arrived on the water around 3pm or so, right after that thunderstorm rolled though and as soon i got down there it was one after another till dark. I cant pick up my gatorade bottle my arms are so sore! ;D
Snaggers predictions were SPOT ON!!!(Which he told me last Tuesday) :bowdown: :bowdown: Im glad i got here when i did!
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WOW! Another great day for most Anglers Alot of my Vetrans had HUGE numbers today like crappiekiller, others that were less skilled, still did very well! THIS IS BY FAR THE BIGGEST RUN OF THE YEAR, This time when it ends down River, you will see large numbers linger for sometime up River, no more mediocre weekends, just crowded! 90% big KINGS and some coho's and steelies mixed in too! COULD IT CONTINUE FOR A THIRD DAY TOMORROW? That would be great! Also saw good numbers taken out of Trout Brook today!
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:w00t:WOW JUST GOT HOME MY ARM'S ARE LIKE JELLO MUST OF HOOKED OVER A HUNDRED FISH LANDED PROBLY 30 NOW THIS WAS A RUN OF FISH LIKE THE OLD DAY'S WENT TO THE BALL PARK AND NEVER LEFT FROM 8-6:30 FROM YESTERDAY TO TODAY WAS LIKE FISHING IN JULY AND LATE SEPTEMBER STEADY RUN OF FISH ALL DAY LONG MOSTLY ALL BIG KING'S LOT'S OF LOOSE FEMALE'S NOW IT'S SALMON TIME BOY'S :thumbup_smilie:
Hey killer, bring me some fish to be cleaned at A.O.L., I do a really good job. I help Snagger when he's busy!! I used to go to Dugal's too years ago, he was a good man!
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Hey Snagger starting Tomorrow, I cant wait. COME ON RAIN. I am so stoked! ;D. Cya AM.
How early you coming up, the tailend of this big run has got be close to ending in Pulaski! If we get the forcasted Lake effect rain could have a SOUTH / NORTH SANDY MASSACRE though soon! They were running up Trout today, but must be a beaver dam somewhere on Orwell, cause there isn't any up high yet!
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snagger find me the beaver and i will take care of him
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snagger find me the beaver and i will take care of him
I heard they made it to the first farmers spot, but not the second, so it's in the swamp somewhere. they build them every year.
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I heard they made it to the first farmers spot, but not the second, so it's in the swamp somewhere. they build them every year.
i will check on it when i go on wed.
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i will check on it when i go on wed.
Cool man, stop over!
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I have NO Idea!! Sangger should know that!! ;D If I was to guess 30lbs???
Never measured a salmon, believe it or not. I know I got a 38 inch 23 1/2lb steelie on the wall and a couple 39 inch 22lbers on my wall! I only ever get the tape out if someone is sending it to the Taxi! We just have a scale in the fillet station, those were some good times you had there Carpie, from the looks of the pic's! :D
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How early you coming up, the tailend of this big run has got be close to ending in Pulaski! If we get the forcasted Lake effect rain could have a SOUTH / NORTH SANDY MASSACRE though soon! They were running up Trout today, but must be a beaver dam somewhere on Orwell, cause there isn't any up high yet!
Funny you should say that. I have little town with a nice creek running through it on my mind! ;) Probably see you before you read this AM
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Hey SNAGGER, LOGAN is heading your way on Friday he said he'd call you today
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Hey MAYOR is your rock pile starting to look good?
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How early you coming up, the tailend of this big run has got be close to ending in Pulaski! If we get the forcasted Lake effect rain could have a SOUTH / NORTH SANDY MASSACRE though soon! They were running up Trout today, but must be a beaver dam somewhere on Orwell, cause there isn't any up high yet!
GADDAM BEAVERS!!! What's happenin' SNAGGER?!--KP
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Hey SNAGGER, When I read in the newspaper awhile back, I read that there were numbers of native atlantic salmon that were returning. How can a person identify a native fish to a stocked fish? And why all of a sudden would they return? Thanks for any info!!--KP
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would have had a great day yesterday but they kept biting in the wrong end and some johnny do gooder was fishing right down stream from me so i broke alot off i did end up landing 2 they were nice ones probably around the 20# mark
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would have had a great day yesterday but they kept biting in the wrong end and some johnny do gooder was fishing right down stream from me so i broke alot off i did end up landing 2 they were nice ones probably around the 20# mark
Hey you didn't stop by and see me! GREAT DAY, wasn't it! :w00t:
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:w00t: LAKE EFFECT RAINS!!! LAKE EFFECT RAINS!!! LAKE EFFECT RAINS!!!! :clapping:
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Hey you didn't stop by and see me! GREAT DAY, wasn't it! :w00t:
ya we didn't get there till 230 and fished till dark in pulaski then i just wanted to get home. it is a 2.5hr drive one way for me and i come 2-3 times a week
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The big one I got yesterday in the picture was 32lbs..I didn't get the length but it was 40 plus!! :cookoo:
Took the virgin today.(Nimo bulding hole Pulaski) He got a 27lb male king and hooked over 15 fish on his own. he also got the smallest coho I ever seen!! a 13 incher and very bright!! It was released, hooked in gill plate.
I would have to say we hook over 40 fish and the kings where very fresh.
Went to the refrigerator hole and I hook 6 kings and the hole was free of people... ;D
Frank
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The big one I got yesterday in the picture was 32lbs..I didn't get the length but it was 40 plus!! :cookoo:
Took the virgin today.(Nimo bulding hole Pulaski) He got a 27lb male king and hooked over 15 fish on his own. he also got the smallest coho I ever seen!! a 13 incher and very bright!! It was released, hooked in gill plate.
I would have to say we hook over 40 fish and the kings where very fresh.
Went to the refrigerator hole and I hook 6 kings and the hole was free of people... ;D
Frank
Heard the same thing, Ball Park is still ON FIRE and so was the LB! Took a ride to the creeks, Trout Brook is way down and Orwell is higher than yesterday! They both should go up some later once the water from the hill gets down here! Not much movement YET in Altmar( watched ellis area), but that should change any hour! Hey Crappiekiller heard theres a huge beaver dam just below the 5 dollar spot! Catch ya later Carpie, 32lbs, that's a MONSTER! :clapping:
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Thanx for the tip on what you have been using. Now its just a matter of when we are gonna get up there. Thanx
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Yes 32lbs is a beast Sangger, I drove by your place around noon. I didn't stop in. Yes Orwell Creek is up and running dark..
Yup you can say I have put my time in up your way in the last twenty years or so.
1986, just as you turn on to sheepskin road that run of Orwell Cr. Spring time Steelies and fall backs! smashing egg sacs good old days!!
Frank
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Does anyone know if the hatchery will be stripping fish this weekend???
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I am pretty sure they do that on tuesday. Not 100%
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Yesterday at the LB was no joke. I went through every hook i owned plus any one I found on the uncountable salmon I caught... Got home and went right to bed woke up this morning and my left arm was sore beyond words... It was alot of fun for those who were there! Can only hope to hit another run like that.
ALSO IF ANYONE SAW OR KNOWs IF ANYONE FOUND A FLY POLE AT EITHER THE LB OR BALLPARK I WOULD APPRECIATE IT BACK. 9ft scott PURPLE THANKS
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Yesterday at the LB was no joke. I went through every hook i owned plus any one I found on the uncountable salmon I caught... Got home and went right to bed woke up this morning and my left arm was sore beyond words... It was alot of fun for those who were there! Can only hope to hit another run like that.
ALSO IF ANYONE SAW OR KNOWs IF ANYONE FOUND A FLY POLE AT EITHER THE LB OR BALLPARK I WOULD APPRECIATE IT BACK. 9ft scott PURPLE THANKS
Where in the ballpark area might have you left it? I will be there early am tomorrow and would be glad to check.
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Thanks but I went back an d checked. Hoping someone would be a good person though
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I can honestly say that this and that OT game thread are the only two that i look at anymore....after this weekends salmon river trip i think i will hang up the rods for the season and turn into all out hunting mode.....i hopefully will have some pics to post of fish if we catch any. But after this weekend i might pop in once or twice a week....its been an awesome open water yr (would have liked to have gone a little more) look forward to seeing you guys over on IS in another month or 2 ;D
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Does anyone know if the hatchery will be stripping fish this weekend???
They start stripping when water temp reaches 55 degrees or below, last I checked it was 59 degrees and slowly falling, but the raceway I believe is a little cooler! It's close, probably next week! Stop in and ask them!
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TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 29th FISHING REPORT: Another repeat of Monday with a great run all over the Pulaski area! Should be arriving in Altmar tonight! Then the River will have fish from end to end for first time since September 6th, but that was short lived, this should hold for the rest of the season up River! Heard a better mix of steelies today in Pulaski also. Another day with monster numbers of hook ups for some and good numbers for most anglers! Heard that the beaver dam broke late today on Orwell, should be off and running now! Some of my guys got fish in other tribs too! Should slow down a tad tomorrow, but will still be good, so have fun everybody! FISH ON!!!!!!!!!! FISH OFF!!!!
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salmon are everywhere =)) snagger these guys don't need reports! they need wheelbarrows to get the fish out!
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snaggerr i was thinking if comeing up this weekend..... want me to give u a call on the telly?
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coming up this Sunday, the 4th and fishing until the 11th....looking good or what? Probably hit the ball park after the ride in on Sun afternoon. Be wearing a green bass pro shops hat if you see me give me a shout. Hopefully I'll be the one with the St Croix fly rod hooked up on a big 'un.
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If the weather goes SUNNY again for the weekend, Run could SLOW down in Pulaski, forcing the upper part of the River to get a little Crowded. Not a bad thing for the Altmar economy! Always start low to see if theres any freshies in , then move up if you have too! So far heard only good reports still in Pulaski, has to end eventually! Should start seeing your first groups of spawners on the gravel in the upper River! Catch ya later!
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i'm back home already with the guys limits only 3 guys on the river this morning LB tons of fish still moving up a little chilly though!!! good luck guys the fish as SNAGGER said are top to bottom all through the river.. :o :o
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Think I am gonna have to hit it up 2nite. Hey snagger how about that room sunday nite? got people plus me, no biggy if we gotta drive! Northwoods still going good in the spot...
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Think I am gonna have to hit it up 2nite. Hey snagger how about that room sunday nite? got people plus me, no biggy if we gotta drive! Northwoods still going good in the spot...
UM YA!!!
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Great to hear MARKIE! Nothing yet fishinaddict, can't believe the RUN is still going, had a couple guys in the Port yesterday against my advice, but it's still full!
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Nobody was there this morning amazing must be there arms were to sore from the past 2 days I know mine still hurts from monday
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The PORT? What are they thinking.
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Well with thses cold temps and rain it could continue till sunday... LOL How did the boys do at papermill?
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Well with thses cold temps and rain it could continue till sunday... LOL How did the boys do at papermill?
Pretty good, not one big ball of fish like LB, no 100 hook ups, but double digits, they are alot more spread out and a little wiser! There in the creeks this morning alot better, Full Force Run, NO, but not too bad either! Black Alby's at our second favorite spot! Said they are there! Hey MARKIE GREAT PIC'S, like the smaller size( Not full page)
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top o the mornin snagger. a friend of mine went to orwell thismorning without telling me and caught a 39 and a 42 incher will get pics when i can. not sure when ill get back up there i have a cracked block in my car and dont quite trust it yet after i jb welded it.
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LOOK OUT, JUST GOT OFF DIAL UP! I was up to the Pipe on Orwell and they were dragging em out! Got guys at SS that are doing really good too! LB was great this AM and BP was decent! Mostly kings every where with a few coho's! ;D
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coming up sat or sunday, any idea yet on which would be better snag? or is it still to later.
thanks
fishman
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coming up sat or sunday, any idea yet on which would be better snag? or is it still to later.
thanks
fishman
Been alot of late day Sunday runs this year, I think theres rain in the forcast on Saturday night, at this point it don't matter, been raining here for 4 1/2 days and cold! I'll give you a prediction Friday!
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river is pretty full you shouldn't have a bad day :)
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ALL I GOT TO SAY ABOUT WEDNESDAY IS WOW! It just don't get much better than this. fish from end to end, fish in the creeks and new steelies and browns down river! Limits every where you look, everybody smiling and yelling fish on! Hope it keeps on keeping on! Have great day today boys! ;D oh forgot, get your new licences today if you haven't already!
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After looking at the radar and Working outside in these MONSTER SouthEast winds, I got a feeling that the BIGGEST RUN OF THE YEAR IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN! ! With these winds the port should be filling up as we speak and if the rains are Heavy tonight, ALL HECK IS GOING TO BREAK LOOSE! We'll see! Hey fishinaddict, I'de get up here for tomorrow and MONDAY! If it rains hard enough could have the first run of the year in the CREEKS! :w00t:
Had to bring this one back up for all the non believers or what we call DSR believers!
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fished the bend below the trestle last night from 5 til dark. only 3 hook ups (1landed) with with kings, but i managed a nice 18-19" brown and 2 steelheads about the same size. their were fish moving the whole time i was there, but it wasn't loaded like i was hopeing. might try there again this afternoon, or might try 1 of the creeks. hey snagger, hows it looking up by you? anything good numbers at ellis or school house yet? i was thinking that big run of fish should be up that far by now
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fished the bend below the trestle last night from 5 til dark. only 3 hook ups (1landed) with with kings, but i managed a nice 18-19" brown and 2 steelheads about the same size. their were fish moving the whole time i was there, but it wasn't loaded like i was hopeing. might try there again this afternoon, or might try 1 of the creeks. hey snagger, hows it looking up by you? anything good numbers at ellis or school house yet? i was thinking that big run of fish should be up that far by now
My cousin was at ellis last 2 hours last night, said over a 100 went by him, plus the runs are pretty full, just starting to spawn, so there not everywhere you look yet!
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Cleaned fish from the creeks from 9:30am til 1:30 without a break! Theres fish everywhere, from what I've been hearing in the fish station! Got to go!
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SNAGGER, you gotta be putting a pretty good hurtin' on Dave's arm cleaning all those fish!!! ;D Glad to hear it's picked up for you guys. :)--KP
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Cleaned fish from the creeks from 9:30am til 1:30 without a break! Theres fish everywhere, from what I've been hearing in the fish station! Got to go!
What kind of recipes do you use to prepare these fish for a meal ?
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Cleaned fish from the creeks from 9:30am til 1:30 without a break! Theres fish everywhere, from what I've been hearing in the fish station! Got to go!
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What kind of recipes do you use to prepare these fish for a meal ?
I usually just trade em to my polish/ russian buddies for vodka...thats the only way to make me "edible" in my book :rotflol: :rotflol:
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What kind of recipes do you use to prepare these fish for a meal ?
I tried a silvery coho last night for the first time in a couple of years. Very pink flesh. I chunked it up breaded it in Italian Bread Crumbs and fried them in bacon fat. Definately not as good as perch, walleye or skaneateles small mouth but it was reasonably edible. I can feel my arteries clogging as I type.
My buddy is big on baking Atlantic salmon from the fingerlakes and likes to simply baste them with butter,garlic powder, and some kind of Italian Seasonings-basil, oregano, marjoram etc.
I would imagine the pacific salmons would be similar in taste but not the same.
Hopefully some other recipes will be added here.
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fishingjason,
What I do with the Cohos is clean them up wrap them up in tin foil with butter and olive oil with garlic powder and parsly and lemon juice and put on the top rack of your grill and wait 20Min's.
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When you clean them, flipp the fillets over and slice that thin red meat out and it will taste alot better, especially coho's! won't turn it into perch or anything, but edible! ;D
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We'll just got back from salmon river fishing for the first time since the days of the grappling hooks everybody used back then :laugh:I only went once back then.I have to say from last saturday till we left on weds it has really been fun.Monday thru wed. was a major change with fish everywhere.I even managed a few learning how to fly fish for the first time.I was fishing across from your place snagger on wed. and the lower fly zone was full of fish you could see from the bridge.I was fishing below the bridge.The way it changed from sat till wed. I truly wish I was still there!! ;DI am sitting here right now counting change calling buddies who I loaned money to,waiting for a check to get some cash to get back up there.Alot of fun and will definetly be a yearly thing from now on :)Good luck to all and I envy you guys fishing right now!!
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We'll just got back from salmon river fishing for the first time since the days of the grappling hooks everybody used back then :laugh:I only went once back then.I have to say from last saturday till we left on weds it has really been fun.Monday thru wed. was a major change with fish everywhere.I even managed a few learning how to fly fish for the first time.I was fishing across from your place snagger on wed. and the lower fly zone was full of fish you could see from the bridge.I was fishing below the bridge.The way it changed from sat till wed. I truly wish I was still there!! ;DI am sitting here right now counting change calling buddies who I loaned money to,waiting for a check to get some cash to get back up there.Alot of fun and will definetly be a yearly thing from now on :)Good luck to all and I envy you guys fishing right now!!
Glad you had a good time, it's alot of fun!
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SNAGGER, you gotta be putting a pretty good hurtin' on Dave's arm cleaning all those fish!!! ;D Glad to hear it's picked up for you guys. :)--KP
No, that was me cleaning this morning, he was out fishing! I was building up my arms for the November Steelcage Match at Oneida! :flex:
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Yes it was lot's of fun.I figuered out you place snagger from reading some posts here and could hear the music :laugh:Next time I am up that way I will stop in and introduce myself.This last time the river had to much of a grip on me and I could not leave it!! ;DMy friend I was with also comes up for the steelhead later.I was going to do if the weather cooperates an ice fishing/steelhead trip!
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Yes it was lot's of fun.I figuered out you place snagger from reading some posts here and could hear the music :laugh:Next time I am up that way I will stop in and introduce myself.This last time the river had to much of a grip on me and I could not leave it!! ;DMy friend I was with also comes up for the steelhead later.I was going to do if the weather cooperates an ice fishing/steelhead trip!
Ya the schoolhouse pool & barrel hole are right across the street from my house for winter steelies and I'm a DIEHARD ONEIDA LAKE ICE FISHERMAN! Lower fly zone is right up the street too!
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No, that was me cleaning this morning, he was out fishing! I was building up my arms for the November Steelcage Match at Oneida! :flex:
Don't you just hate it when the boss has to do all the work!!!!!! "SLACKERS"!!!! LOL ;D--KP
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Thursday Fishing Report: Heard the lower end has really slowed down alot, but still some fish coming through! Most of the ACTION is now up River and the creeks! Looked at the weather, might be a decent Rain on Friday night to get a refreshing to the lower end and the creeks for Sunday! We'll see! The lake rains just haven't been enough to raise the creeks anymore, they are all falling now! Plenty of fish up River for this weekend compared to the last 3 weekends! GREAT reports all day today up here in Altmar! HOPE EVERYONE HAS A GREAT WEEKEND! ;D
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The boss let me go fishing today, went to North sandy and it was a massacre there was lots of fish and little water.Unless we get more rain it will get cleaned out in a hurry!!
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hit the same hole as i did wednesday. still fish moving through, but not the numbers i was hopeing for. my buddy landed his first salmon, about a 10-12 lb jack, but that was about it for the hour or so we were there.
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Just checked out the radar: Looks like rain is moving in quicker than excepted, could be raining by 1pm, if it's 3/4 of an inch or better, should spark another push of fish in the lower river by Saturday! Being that we have used up most of the available fish of late, probably won't be the Run of the century, but some new fish none the less with browns and steelies mixed in!! More importantly could have a good run in Orwell,Trout brooks and the big Sandie's if the Rain is a good one for the weekend! If it is not a good rain, most fish will be in the upper Salmon River! Keep you posted, if I have time!
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Just checked out the radar: Looks like rain is moving in quicker than excepted, could be raining by 1pm, if it's 3/4 of an inch or better, should spark another push of fish in the lower river by Saturday! Being that we have used up most of the available fish of late, probably won't be the Run of the century, but some new fish none the less with browns and steelies mixed in!! More importantly could have a good run in Orwell,Trout brooks and the big Sandie's if the Rain is a good one for the weekend! If it is not a good rain, most fish will be in the upper Salmon River! Keep you posted, if I have time!
HEY SNAGGER, are you doing any fishing yourself, or only geetin fish smelly hands from cleaning them?
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SNAGGER, I see you past the "lets see your pic thread " by almost 1000 views.That thread has been up since April of 04 GOOD JOB :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
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:) Hey Shane I tried my hardest to break that 8 wt. Fluegar fly rod you had me field test. I hooked probably a hundred fish with it. I cranked the drag down and pulled as hard as I could. It even got wrapped around a treebranch when I was landing a King. I have to say good by to the Cabellas traditions that replaced the old fish eagles. For less than $50.00 the Fluegar is the Bomb. P.S. you aint gettin it back! 8). Had a great time fishin hard for 3 days. The guys i braught up had a grand finally at the S.S.
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"Hardest workin' thread in show business" right here... No doubt!
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if your talking a pflueger it's probablly one of the strongest fly rods out there! my 7 wt has fought and landed countless bass,steelies,and salmon not to mention salt water blues and stripers !!!!! to be honest it's my fav. flyrod
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if your talking a pflueger it's probablly one of the strongest fly rods out there! my 7 wt has fought and landed countless bass,steelies,and salmon not to mention salt water blues and stripers !!!!! to be honest it's my fav. flyrod
Yup, I didnt read the label that well. I was to busy wondering why when I had it wraped around like an ugly stick on some of them Kings, that it was not snapping on me. Bet you couldnt do that with a $300 finess rod.
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Hey Snagger put a little red food die around Dahmers gotea tonight, and have one of your cleaning ladies lay down next to him tomorrow AM. You could tell him a story and he would buy it! ;)
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"Hardest workin' thread in show business" right here... No doubt!
43000+ readers and still no signs of slowing down!!!! :)--KP
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hey, SNAGGER what cleaning station do you work at??
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Salmon were definately spotty in the village today but the steelhead (bright as a dime) made up for it. Both me and a buddy caught a couple trying to target them. Egg sacs and pink estaz eggs using floats(bobbers).
I use a fleuger for salmon season too. Are you guys refering to the burgundy colored 8 weights? I own one and it's one of the most forgiving rods I own. I use an Okuma reel with it. Not bad at all for a budget combo.
I have never seen Ellis Cove area as busy as it was today. Crazy amounts of people.
Hope everyone has fun this weekend.
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I have never seen Ellis Cove area as busy as it was today. Crazy amounts of people.
Hope everyone has fun this weekend.
Nobody at Ellis yet! You aint seen nothing yet, it's only considered crowded when there parked on both sides of the roads from Altmar bridge to Orwell creek past Ellis Cove parking and theres 3 rows in parking lot at ellis and there in the grass! :w00t: Ya it's getting there, most crowded this year!
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Getting ready for the steelhead push! Had a helper today with egg sacs.
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The beer can in the background is NOT HER'S... :rotflol:
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is that the coors camo can? i didnt know they were out yet. i dont drink but im gonna buy one anyways just cause its camo.
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how many eggs you guys use to a sac?
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no thats the Busch Camo can with blaze orange lettering (the best beer in the World just got better)
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Friday October 2nd fishing report: There was plenty of fish to be had in the upper River today, best fish cleaning day so far this year for me up here! Orwell creek got pounded by guys as the water dropped today, a new push of fish should be entering it right now with this rain, Also the big Sandies were alot slower than the last 3 days, which will also be MUCH higher Saturday with this rain and full of leaves! Heard the lower end was slow but steady! Should be a new push of fresh fish down there Saturday with this rain also, along with probably the first Real Steelhead RUN of the year( due to much colder water temps)! Looks like a great weekend, no matter where you go, just alot of people! GOOD LUCK AND GOOD TIMES! ;D
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...shane, thanks again for getting us in last week and pointing us towards the fish. We freakin killed them and had a blast!
Coming up for our first scheduled trip on sunday and can't wait. Keith said we are going to load you up with fat females and hopes to pound SS.
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Ripem and Strip em!
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how many eggs you guys use to a sac?
generally I use 3 salmon and about 8 brown trout to a sac! Sometimes more if fishing the finger lakes for lakers!
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Got some good downpours last night and all the gauges are up! Taking a ride right now to look at the creeks! I hope they are blowing a gasket! ;D Just got back Orwell is the highest this Fall, but not unfishable by any means!
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Got some good downpours last night and all the gauges are up! Taking a ride right now to look at the creeks! I hope they are blowing a gasket! ;D
YOUR KILLIN ME SNAGGER!! IM SO BUSY DOWN HERE WITH WORK I CANT EVEN GET AWAY FOR A DAY. MAYBE THIS OR NEXT WEEK. BUSIEST FALL IN 16 YEARS, PUTTIN 3 CREWS ON THE ROAD EVERY DAY. GOTTA MAKE HAY WHY THE SUN SHINES YOU KNOW!!
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I am bumming out big time. It sounds like things are really starting to rock and roll. I was hoping to get up next week and hit the creeks but we are short handed at work and can't get the time off. Hopefully the week after next. Good luck everyone!
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YOUR KILLIN ME SNAGGER!! IM SO BUSY DOWN HERE WITH WORK I CANT EVEN GET AWAY FOR A DAY. MAYBE THIS OR NEXT WEEK. BUSIEST FALL IN 16 YEARS, PUTTIN 3 CREWS ON THE ROAD EVERY DAY. GOTTA MAKE HAY WHY THE SUN SHINES YOU KNOW!!
Just got reports back from the Big Sandies, they are up and muddy and full of leaves, most guys aren't even stopping! I love it when it's like that! :w00t:
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Nice fish young man!!!! :)--KP
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:D ;D ;D Im coming up with a group of guys on wensday ttill monday weeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!
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hey SNAGGER thats a nice fish for a young man to catch, was that last spring?
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Hey Bunker, here's a picture of him with his dad! They went out in april and boated 39 browns, a king and a steelie for 7 hours trolling! Best March and April I can remember out there!!
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BAD NEWS!!!!!! BAD NEWS!!!!! BAD NEWS!!!!!!
The Parking at the Nimo bulding is gone!!! big red chain and posts. Don't know if you can walk down, but I know that you CAN NOT PARK THERE!!!
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Hey snagger hows the crowds up there today, must be insane. Had to run last nite wife hates me! Hoe you werent really mad ab out the couch... Gonna be up early Monday morning. Call me if and when you hear a njew wave of fish is coming through the LB. Happy cleaning.
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Heres a video a friend was making when I came walking down from the LB on September 5th! What a blast that day was! Hey fishinaddict, good run of kings coming through the LB right now, it is crowded now, going to be great tomorrow!
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..............shane your answering machine is all messed up, can't hear anything.
How is SS Keith and I thinking about hitting them
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nice fish anthony keep woopen your dads butt your pal BIG JIM :bowdown: :bowdown: :clapping: :clapping:
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oh ya the steel cage match is on be up on the 24th hope their bitting by then. :flex: :flex: :flex: :clapping: :clapping:
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Hey snagger and lambaste em it was nice meeting you guys this afternoon. It was nice talking about Tom from Rome. He is greatly missed by many.
We didn't set the world on fire today, but we managed to hit a few. Fished with a bunch of nice guys, no a oles. Hope to be back up before the end of the season. If not we will back for chrome.
Tight lines Ken
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oh ya the steel cage match is on be up on the 24th hope their bitting by then. :flex: :flex: :flex: :clapping: :clapping:
Everybodies Freezers will be filled by then! :w00t: Maybe there be a few dogfish or perch around for ya! You can't hang with the big dog's in the Steelcage Match!
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Thanks Shane for letting us find a nice spot in your yard for our tents. Next year I think we will grab a cabin from you. Buddies tent had some leaks in it and we ended up being soaked....lol.
First day up we took 8 out of 7 of us. Second day wasnt so great only took 1. Plenty of fish hooked just couldnt keep them on the line.
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Hey snagger and lambaste em it was nice meeting you guys this afternoon. It was nice talking about Tom from Rome. He is greatly missed by many.
We didn't set the world on fire today, but we managed to hit a few. Fished with a bunch of nice guys, no a oles. Hope to be back up before the end of the season. If not we will back for chrome.
Tight lines Ken
All of us here at the lodge still call that run, Tom's Run! and always will! He was a really good man and great steelheader! We all miss him too! It used to be fun watching him get up in the dark to try to beat Pat and his boat to that Run in the winter! Great memories! Nice to meeting you kc! See you next year Bigcatch81!
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Saturday October 3rd Report; A good NEW run of kings came through the LB today! Ellis cove to the Shoolhouse was also very productive! Trout and Orwell Brooks recieved new fish, but it was off colored and crowded! Tomorrow will probably be more productive! South Sandy was very high and full of leaves, that too should be good tomorrow too! North Sandy was much lower and fishable, but not many Salmon again this year! Theres so many places with fish in them that atleast it's helping spread the weekend crowds around a little. Didn't hear of any numbers of steelhead being hooked anywhere on the river, and I had guys all over! Well good luck tomorrow, I'm beat up! Catch ya later!
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......got your mail! Thanks for the info!
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Saturday October 3rd Report; A good NEW run of kings came through the LB today! Ellis cove to the Shoolhouse was also very productive! Trout and Orwell Brooks recieved new fish, but it was off colored and crowded! Tomorrow will probably be more productive! South Sandy was very high and full of leaves, that too should be good tomorrow too! North Sandy was much lower and fishable, but not many Salmon again this year! Theres so many places with fish in them that atleast it's helping spread the weekend crowds around a little. Didn't hear of any numbers of steelhead being hooked anywhere on the river, and I had guys all over! Well good luck tomorrow, I'm beat up! Catch ya later!
My son and I will be out there mon. AM and I was wondering what holes you suggest that have good parking and an easy walk for an older guy? Also what lb test main line do most guys use ? Last question is about number of fish you can keep. Total of 3 in combination ? Thanks ahead of time
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Hey Bunker, here's a picture of him with his dad! They went out in april and boated 39 browns, a king and a steelie for 7 hours trolling! Best March and April I can remember out there!!
I remember that day Jeremy and i were there that week,Great pic!
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Its good to see Anthony is becoming a Good fisherman , You and Dave will need him in a few years to carry you both in and from the good spots!hey SNAGGER , your becoming quite the picture poster or is Rob there this weekend?
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He's looking a little Ratty though. Better keep eating stick man.
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He's looking a little Ratty though. Better keep eating stick man.
Hey Wayno, Now that the salmon are mostly up river and in the creeks spawning, will the DSR report another great run after the die and start floating back there way?
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Heres a video a friend was making when I came walking down from the LB on September 5th! What a blast that day was! Hey fishinaddict, good run of kings coming through the LB right now, it is crowded now, going to be great tomorrow!
Nice video! Glad your practicing for the waldos! See ya soon buddy :w00t:
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Hey Bunker remember this one! No Rob here! Hey Jack Magnum Try Ellis Cove Pafking, River's right there! It's up here in Altmar, it gets crowded though! No Rob figured it out on my own Bunker! Say Hi to Moose!
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Hey Bunker remember this one! No Rob here! Hey Jack Magnum Try Ellis Cove Pafking, River's right there! It's up here in Altmar, it gets crowded though! No Rob figured it out on my own Bunker! Say Hi to Moose!
Thanks for the tip. Can I fish it with hip waders ???? I haven't been fishing in a few years out there and I tried my chest waders on and Darned if they didn't SHRINK !!!!!! ;D ;D ;D To much cake and not enough exercise I guess.Thanks again.
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Thanks for the tip. Can I fish it with hip waders ???? I haven't been fishing in a few years out there and I tried my chest waders on and Darned if they didn't SHRINK !!!!!! ;D ;D ;D To much cake and not enough exercise I guess.Thanks again.
At present 335cfs level, you could get away with it! Ya waders run a little smaller than they used too, now that they are all made in China! :w00t: That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it! ;D
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At present 335cfs level, you could get away with it! Ya waders run a little smaller than they used too, now that they are all made in China! :w00t: That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it! ;D
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO wise one ;D ;D ;D I hadn't thought of that one but I'll sure use it now.Thanks again snagger
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At present 335cfs level, you could get away with it! Ya waders run a little smaller than they used too, now that they are all made in China! :w00t: That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it! ;D
All my stuff is ready for the 3 1/2 hr trip to your country tomorrow. Hopefully my son and I will get into something. My last trip out we got into them big time and I was handing off to a young lad that was bored as heck until he actually felt the power of the kings. The smile on his face when I netted his fish was worth a thousand words. I am sure he got addicted right then and there.
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Hey Wayno, Now that the salmon are mostly up river and in the creeks spawning, will the DSR report another great run after the die and start floating back there way?
DSR Special Report! It seems that Fish, (brightly colored in the the latest up stream fishermans garb) are retuning to the DSR area to avoid the upstream hostile environment. They seem to be boycotting the the call of nature of returning to the NYS Hatchery. The red jacketed DSR employees are re directing the returning fish to the flats where they will make special gravel beds to accomodate the exodus of salmonoids. One DSR repeat millonare customer stated that "they were not even belly up when they hit my fly" More reports to come, so check back soon.....
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My son and I will be out there mon. AM and I was wondering what holes you suggest that have good parking and an easy walk for an older guy? Also what lb test main line do most guys use ? Last question is about number of fish you can keep. Total of 3 in combination ? Thanks ahead of time
Yep 3 in combination...but you may only keep 1 steelhead....15" minimum on the salmon and browns, 21" min on the steelies....
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All my stuff is ready for the 3 1/2 hr trip to your country tomorrow. Hopefully my son and I will get into something. My last trip out we got into them big time and I was handing off to a young lad that was bored as heck until he actually felt the power of the kings. The smile on his face when I netted his fish was worth a thousand words. I am sure he got addicted right then and there.
LOL, they are always biting in the dsr... or they would kick every last paying customer out. I heard that if you have your limit you have to exit, now where is the sport in that.
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Snagger gonna be up early need a few things left out for me. So call me when you get in from cleaning. Thanks
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Yep 3 in combination...but you may only keep 1 steelhead....15" minimum on the salmon and browns, 21" min on the steelies....
Thanks for the info. Appreciate it.
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Snagger sorry I left in a hurry yesterday I twisted my ankle and fell on my knee. NO-1 wanted to come up this weekend so I came home.
My last tally was 99 I so wanted to do much moor but I could not fish with Chris anymore . Fishing with him is like fishing alone. lol :P :-\
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Sunday October 4th fishing Report: Easy report, it was very crowded and alot of salmon were harvested again today! Good fishing throughout the River! No MAJOR runs at the LB today,but Ball park and town was steady! Haven't heard of many steelies yet, just a few mixed in with the salmon! Even the guys I had at the DSR said there was only a few trout landed where they were! Should be a GOOD PUSH of them down River very soon! The creeks got a good working over today with alot of happy anglers! All in all, it was a great day to be at the Eastern Lake Ontario Tributaries! Good Luck Monday guys!
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Hey Lehigh Valley, Remember this day, Steelhead Bonanza in a Lake Effect 3 foot whiteout! ;D
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DSR Special Report! It seems that Fish, (brightly colored in the the latest up stream fishermans garb) are retuning to the DSR area to avoid the upstream hostile environment. They seem to be boycotting the the call of nature of returning to the NYS Hatchery. The red jacketed DSR employees are re directing the returning fish to the flats where they will make special gravel beds to accomodate the exodus of salmonoids. One DSR repeat millonare customer stated that "they were not even belly up when they hit my fly" More reports to come, so check back soon.....
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Hey Bunker remember this one! No Rob here! Hey Jack Magnum Try Ellis Cove Pafking, River's right there! It's up here in Altmar, it gets crowded though! No Rob figured it out on my own Bunker! Say Hi to Moose!
I remember getting very wet for that fish!
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Just got a report that a big push of fresh kings and steelies moved through the LB this morning My buddy said it was almost every cast for 2 1/2 hours! Got good Lake effect rains all night, so the creeks should be going back up a little today as well, still VERY Crowded!
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Ya, I remember Snagger that was a grate weekend hope to have a bunch more this winter. I hear things are going good I wish I could be there but i will wait till the weekend of the 17 to start coming up again Im just kicking back for know :sleep1: Looks like you have the picture thing figured out you will have to fill me in next time :thumbup_smilie:. I will be in toutch Tight Lines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :afro:
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Just got a report that a big push of fresh kings and steelies moved through the LB this morning My buddy said it was almost every cast for 2 1/2 hours! Got good Lake effect rains all night, so the creeks should be going back up a little today as well, still VERY Crowded!
Snagger,
If your friend says he fished the longbridge hole and there was alot of fish it must have been after 12:30pm because my son and I fished all morning there and we were the only 2 guys that stayed for any length of time. Very few guys strolled by and threw lines in. We landed a couple of small 18-20 lbers and that was it. More guys down by the staircase and came up to the van with 2 fish on 2 stringers. I was surprised that we had the water basically to ourselves. Oh, Another thing. Parking lot and property owned by the dentist is out of bounds .after fishing we talked with his recepionist and offered her 20 bucks to park there and she rudely said NOBODY is to use their parking lot. Warren auto next door says no parking during business hours so I guess it will be James St for the 2 hr parking and just have someone move the vehicle every 2 hrs. We took a ride to the fish hatchery and MAN, Lots of fish up there. Some really large kings and I saw a brown in the ladder area that I would love to have on the wall.
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Snagger,
If your friend says he fished the longbridge hole and there was alot of fish it must have been after 12:30pm because my son and I fished all morning there and we were the only 2 guys that stayed for any length of time. Very few guys strolled by and threw lines in. We landed a couple of small 18-20 lbers and that was it. More guys down by the staircase and came up to the van with 2 fish on 2 stringers. I was surprised that we had the water basically to ourselves. Oh, Another thing. Parking lot and property owned by the dentist is out of bounds .after fishing we talked with his recepionist and offered her 20 bucks to park there and she rudely said NOBODY is to use their parking lot. Warren auto next door says no parking during business hours so I guess it will be James St for the 2 hr parking and just have someone move the vehicle every 2 hrs. We took a ride to the fish hatchery and MAN, Lots of fish up there. Some really large kings and I saw a brown in the ladder area that I would love to have on the wall.
That's surprising that it wasn't good there too, Because my buddy said it was great even when he came back in at dark! I was SO BUSY today I really don't know what the fishing was like anywhere besides all of the fish we cleaned from our area! Fish cleaning has been OFF THE HOOK for 4 days now, every muscle in my body is tired! Little Dave's turning into a little Herculies! ;D Remember the Eddie Murphy movie! Hey Jack I think you can park at the old dollar store, then walk over the long bridge and down from there! Good luck everybody!
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Ya, I remember Snagger that was a grate weekend hope to have a bunch more this winter. I hear things are going good I wish I could be there but i will wait till the weekend of the 17 to start coming up again Im just kicking back for know :sleep1: Looks like you have the picture thing figured out you will have to fill me in next time :thumbup_smilie:. I will be in toutch Tight Lines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :afro:
Man is there fish in Altmar right now, and people! looks like a different River than 5 days ago! See you for some Chrome man! :w00t:
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Hey MAYOR, hope you have been getting a couple hours in once in a while on your Roller! hope to see you some time soon, tell puffy I said Hi. Hope you and the dog are having fun still down at the river! ;D your Friend shane!
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Well I just found out there raising the water to 750cfs, I'm so tired forgot to check, everybody probably already knows! Be careful down river in the Rapids! Should Ignite the rest of the salmon in the lake, plus our CHROME buddies too! Within 24-36 hours the upper end of the river will be absolutelly loaded with fresh fish! Time to Re-adjust to your 750 spots! IT'S ON NOW BOYS! :clapping:
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That's surprising that it wasn't good there too, Because my buddy said it was great even when he came back in at dark! I was SO BUSY today I really don't know what the fishing was like anywhere besides all of the fish we cleaned from our area! Fish cleaning has been OFF THE HOOK for 4 days now, every muscle in my body is tired! Little Dave's turning into a little Herculies! ;D Remember the Eddie Murphy movie! Hey Jack I think you can park at the old dollar store, then walk over the long bridge and down from there! Good luck everybody!
I guess your friend hit the sweet spot and we din't stay only til 12:30 pm. I know from past experience the fishing can turn on in an instant. I would have liked a late afternoon drift BUT My son had business to take care of. Oh well, I may return Thurs. I am glad your business is doing well and thanks alot for all your info and river reports.
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That's surprising that it wasn't good there too, Because my buddy said it was great even when he came back in at dark! I was SO BUSY today I really don't know what the fishing was like anywhere besides all of the fish we cleaned from our area! Fish cleaning has been OFF THE HOOK for 4 days now, every muscle in my body is tired! Little Dave's turning into a little Herculies! ;D Remember the Eddie Murphy movie! Hey Jack I think you can park at the old dollar store, then walk over the long bridge and down from there! Good luck everybody!
Tell Dave he has to work the knots out if he's in the STEELCAGE MATCH :flex:, 3 weeks and counting!!!!!!!!! I can't wait!! Hang in there guys!! FISH ON!--KP
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Tell Dave he has to work the knots out if he's in the STEELCAGE MATCH :flex:, 3 weeks and counting!!!!!!!!! I can't wait!! Hang in there guys!! FISH ON!--KP
Now that they raised the water on us, should be the end of MONSTER fish cleaniong days! Still good, but not OFF THE HOOK! Get your jigs sharpened KP, hey it's already on down there! ;D I can already see more cars in Altmar out my window! Does anyone know if they have a web cam for the dam at Oswego River at Oswego?
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Now that they raised the water on us, should be the end of MONSTER fish cleaniong days! Still good, but not OFF THE HOOK! Get your jigs sharpened KP, hey it's already on down there! ;D I can already see more cars in Altmar out my window!
I'm heading out for my arsenol this afternoon!!!! ;D--KP :)
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Hey Trapper, You want in on the STEELCAGE MATCH!! OH YEAH, FISH ON!!!--KP
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Well i fished the LB yesterday from sun up til sundown. THe only word that describes it was silly. I brought my buddy early and we limited out in less than 2 hours then I brought 2 friends who never fished up there b4 they each landed a handful and had more than there share of fish on. It was one of the best days I have had down there and for half the day it wasnt crowded, til the word got out. Now they have raised the water so if you want fresh ones better get up there in the next 2 days. O yea lots of chromies 2, landed 2 and seen a bunch! GOOD LUCK
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Hey Trapper, You want in on the STEELCAGE MATCH!! OH YEAH, FISH ON!!!--KP
When we planning the steel cage match? Stopped there early monday morn and conditions were perfect, seen fish feeding under the bridge and along the wall. Went out to the spot and didnt get a hit the only thing it could have been was i missed them. didnt get there til 4 am
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WAIT!!!!! YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THERES SALMON IN THAT RIVER????
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WAIT!!!!! YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THERES SALMON IN THAT RIVER????
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A few here and there!
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When we planning the steel cage match?
We'll let you know, me and Dave are going to need somebody to dragg are walleye back! :w00t:
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Snagger, I did happen to pick up some arsenol today, TOP SECRET, for the STEELCAGE MATCH!!!!--KP
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45,000+ readers and no signs of slowing down!!!!!!--KP
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We'll let you know, me and Dave are going to need somebody to dragg are walleye back! :w00t:
LOL the only thing dave will be catching is an $%@wooping from me!
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i want in on this steel cage match we can make it a battle royal
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i want in on this steel cage match we can make it a battle royal
Your in! We do it every November and May at the Canal, bunch of us guys get together and put in $10 each, most landed! Hey Addict you still owe me $10 from last November! You better start pumping Iron there sponge bob! :w00t: Not you Crappiekiller!
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Well i fished the LB yesterday from sun up til sundown. THe only word that describes it was silly. I brought my buddy early and we limited out in less than 2 hours then I brought 2 friends who never fished up there b4 they each landed a handful and had more than there share of fish on. It was one of the best days I have had down there and for half the day it wasnt crowded, til the word got out. Now they have raised the water so if you want fresh ones better get up there in the next 2 days. O yea lots of chromies 2, landed 2 and seen a bunch! GOOD LUCK
R U talking about the long bridge hole on Jefferson st. ??????? What side of the bridge were you fishing on ?????
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LB means the Lower Black, the rapids just below the big black and just above where DSR stole all our good runs!
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LOL the only thing dave will be catching is an $%@wooping from me!
Are you sure you even know what a walleye looks like cuz we know you dont know what a steelhead looks like after me and snagger switched your steelhead with a rotten salmon yesterday in your cooler and you couldnt tell the difference! :w00t: So good luck (For Show!)
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LB means the Lower Black, the rapids just below the big black and just above where DSR stole all our good runs!
Thanks SNAGGER I did not know where the LB was I am going there tomorrow with that info,
Thanks SCHMITTY
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Are you sure you even know what a walleye looks like cuz we know you dont know what a steelhead looks like after me and snagger switched your steelhead with a rotten salmon yesterday in your cooler and you couldnt tell the difference! :w00t: So good luck (For Show!)
8) :laugh: :'( :laugh: :'(
Nice I'm dyin' over here, did you fish after I saw ya today "lambastem"
"FOR SHOW" ha!
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LB means the Lower Black, the rapids just below the big black and just above where DSR stole all our good runs!
YO SNAGGER , YOU GUYS ARE KILLIN ME! IM SO BUSY SEALCOATING DRIVEWAYS AND PARKING LOTS DOWN HERE I CANT BREATHE! WERE USING 5000 GALLONS PLUS A WEEK AND CANT KEEP UP! CRAZY BUSY. CALL ME WHEN THE FIRST NICE RUN OF BROWNS AND STEELIES COME , I WILL MAKE TIME!
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Your in! We do it every November and May at the Canal, bunch of us guys get together and put in $10 each, most landed! Hey Addict you still owe me $10 from last November! You better start pumping Iron there sponge bob! :w00t: Not you Crappiekiller!
oh this is gonna be like takin candy from a baby im gonna feel bad drinkin on ur guy's money after the match :rotflol: :rotflol: :afro: :w00t:
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The river was ridiculous on Sunday... Holy Cow... I've never seen such numbers of fish hooked up at one time.
At one point I was looking downstream into the Sportsmans Pool and water was flying in every direction for about 300 yards downriver. People screaming, laughing, mayhem...
My buddy put on a virtual clinic and ended up making a whole lotta' friends. It's funny how some people get jealous (usually the ones with surfrods and 50lb test) when they are not catching a thing and a big dude shows up with a 10' fly rod and hooks 100 fish in an afternoon. And lands 30lb Kings on 8lb test. I learned a lot watching that display Sunday.
Some people storm off or start yappin' their mouths... They have no clue.
Other folks gather closer, thinking ALL the fish are at his feet. They have no clue either.
Truth is, he hooked fish everywhere we went. In deep pools where you couldn't see 'em. People cried 'foul' until they saw the #6 hook firmly in the corner of a jaw, or right in the tip of the nose. Holy cow- what an art form.
Some people were so nice though- so he gave them some advice, etc. And it blew them away.
Anyway- even I hooked a ton and landed a couple- including some tiny browns- but it got me fired up for the run of Metalheads and Butterbellies next month. There were plenty of Steelies rolling thru all day Sunday, too.
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YO SNAGGER , YOU GUYS ARE KILLIN ME! IM SO BUSY SEALCOATING DRIVEWAYS AND PARKING LOTS DOWN HERE I CANT BREATHE! WERE USING 5000 GALLONS PLUS A WEEK AND CANT KEEP UP! CRAZY BUSY. CALL ME WHEN THE FIRST NICE RUN OF BROWNS AND STEELIES COME , I WILL MAKE TIME!
too late!
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too late!
OK THEN , HOW ABOUT THE SECOND RUN?
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OK THEN , HOW ABOUT THE SECOND RUN?
That's tomorrow! :rotflol: :rotflol: Maybe the 4th or fifth! Hey in this economy, work until your arms fall off, that's what I'm doing! There will be plenty around whenever you slow down! Maybe by then I can go out for some Steel! Nice Chrome Jimmy, glad you had a good time, that's what it's all about!
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That's tomorrow! :rotflol: :rotflol: Maybe the 4th or fifth! Hey in this economy, work until your arms fall off, that's what I'm doing! There will be plenty around whenever you slow down! Maybe by then I can go out for some Steel! Nice Chrome Jimmy, glad you had a good time, that's what it's all about!
IM GLAD TO HEAR YOU ARE BUSY CUTTIN EM UP. WE WILL BE UP SOON.
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Fishing report for Tuesday October 6th: A great day from end to end, a little more difficult to land in 750, but didn't seem to hurt fish cleaning numbers. They were through the ROOF again! Guys did especially well around Ellis Cove area with some steelies being hooked up here now too! Heard Steelies were moving in GOOD numbers down River today with this latest batch of kings. WOW! What a 8 day Run of Samon we have had, seems like the OLD DAY'S! EVERYBODY is HAPPY! The creeks have slowed way down, but there still plenty to fish for, tonights Rain will refresh the creeks for tomorrow and especially Thursday, if we get alot!! Went to the Big Res. it's still 4 feet below the spill gates, don't know why they put the River up to 750, hatchery can't need fish! Well I'm Tired, got to get ready to do it all over again tomorrow! Good luck to everybody!
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decided im heading up in the morning even though i have a cracked block. the jb weld seems to have held up so far and i think my car has at least one more trip in it before i sell it this weekend and get the oldsmobile. ill be the big bastard around trout brook wearing shorts and sneakers when everyone else is in waders
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decided im heading up in the morning even though i have a cracked block. the jb weld seems to have held up so far and i think my car has at least one more trip in it before i sell it this weekend and get the oldsmobile. ill be the big bugger around trout brook wearing shorts and sneakers when everyone else is in waders
I fished like that for a couple of seasons and caught just as many fish as the orvis dudes in their fancy waders. Glue some felt on those sneakers.
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decided im heading up in the morning even though i have a cracked block. the jb weld seems to have held up so far and i think my car has at least one more trip in it before i sell it this weekend and get the oldsmobile. ill be the big bugger around trout brook wearing shorts and sneakers when everyone else is in waders
Better double up the shirts under your hooded sweatshirt/rainjacket! Going to be a little cool out! I used to do the same thing, we used to have a contest to see who could go the longest without waders! Come on RAIN! ;D
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oh this is gonna be like takin candy from a baby im gonna feel bad drinkin on ur guy's money after the match :rotflol: :rotflol: :afro: :w00t:
:bowdown: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :bowdown:
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serious note boys.... this is the best thread in mff!!!! the info is great and everyone has fun!we don't pertend to be fishing gurus or literary geniuses, we do however know how to laugh and have fun,this is the only thread where comman sense is the rule and not the exempton! it's where everyone wishes the next guy the best ,and good times are shared ! i do say that perhaps mff should use this thread as a model . it is the one thread that shows the true meaning of sportsmenship....
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serious note boys.... this is the best thread in mff!!!! the info is great and everyone has fun!we don't pertend to be fishing gurus or literary geniuses, we do however know how to laugh and have fun,this is the only thread where comman sense is the rule and not the exempton! it's where everyone wishes the next guy the best ,and good times are shared ! i do say that perhaps mff should use this thread as a model . it is the one thread that shows the true meaning of sportsmenship....
Ya what he said!
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How's the river lookin for Friday??
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How's the river lookin for Friday??
Should be great( especially the upper reaches), nothing short of very high water is stopping this Monster Run! ;D and if the River gets too high, jump in the creeks!
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HEY SNAGGER,How many fish are you cleaning in a day now?
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HEY SNAGGER,How many fish are you cleaning in a day now?
I sent you a PM!
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I sent you a PM!
got it
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R U talking about the long bridge hole on Jefferson st. ??????? What side of the bridge were you fishing on ?????
No i was at the lower black... Though its hard to believe there were no fish where you were, cuz they were infront of me from 630am til 730pm. double digit hook ups for rookies!
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Are you sure you even know what a walleye looks like cuz we know you dont know what a steelhead looks like after me and snagger switched your steelhead with a rotten salmon yesterday in your cooler and you couldnt tell the difference! :w00t: So good luck (For Show!)
I KNEW IT! I KNEW IT. You rotten fish steelers! What did you do with my beautiful steelie?
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I was in a hurry, that is y I didnt get to the bottom of it.
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Thanks SNAGGER I did not know where the LB was I am going there tomorrow with that info,
Thanks SCHMITTY
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Thank you for the info though I clearly can tell a steelie from a salmon they took advantage of me while I was running around like crazy getting every1 fish. Lambastem was just mad he was stuck slicing while I was lambasten fish all day long.
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I KNEW IT! I KNEW IT. You rotten fish steelers! What did you do with my beautiful steelie?
we gave it to your fishing partner, Ray charles! Lambaste em can clean fish another 24 years and still whopp your @%@!@! Best joke we have pulled off in years! it was the bomb! The suspense was killing us, then when you just thought it got darker, it got even better! Thanks for making me laugh so hard during such a busy time! Highlight of my weeek! :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
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Keep cleaning the fish I catch :laugh: By the time you guys are done there wont be any eyeballs left for the cage match! ::)
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Keep cleaning the fish I catch :laugh: By the time you guys are done there wont be any eyeballs left for the cage match! ::)
Hey if you want some walleye pointers, the Korean ladie who sits on a bucket up at 2 dogs spot under the bridge said she'd take you fishing for a small fee! :w00t: Be careful down there For Show, wouldn't want you to fall down and hurt your mushmellon big self! :flex:
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No i was at the lower black... Though its hard to believe there were no fish where you were, cuz they were infront of me from 630am til 730pm. double digit hook ups for rookies!
Did you see the guy with the 2 dogs[maybe britts] He came up from below bridge and fished the big rock for awhile. He might have hooked into a couple but no landing at that place.
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MONSTER LAKE EFFECT STORM just ripped through the area with torrential downpours and big winds, Creeks should be good Tomorrow! ;D
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Just saw they are gonna release more water....going up to 1150 cfs tonight until noon on Friday!
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creeks were decent this morning. those storms kept a lot of people back at the lodges till about 830 in the morning. by then i had my limit lol. 41, 40 and a 36 inch king. lost 3. 2 in snags one from a bent hook. caught one foul hooked so i turned it loose. not a bad day for less than 3 hours of fishing trout brook with 8lb line and size 10 hooks.
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Just saw they are gonna release more water....going up to 1150 cfs tonight until noon on Friday!
Well there goes are MONSTER fish cleaning streak, creeks are going to get CROWDED! They might be very high by afternoon, lake rains are still pounding us! 1150 IS STILL VERY FISHABLE FROM ABOVE TRESTLE INTO THE DIVERSIONS AND UP TO ELLIS COVE AND TO SCHOOLHOUSE THOUGH! Just hard to land them!
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creeks were decent this morning. those storms kept a lot of people back at the lodges till about 830 in the morning. by then i had my limit lol. 41, 40 and a 36 inch king. lost 3. 2 in snags one from a bent hook. caught one foul hooked so i turned it loose. not a bad day for less than 3 hours of fishing trout brook with 8lb line and size 10 hooks.
Good job, with no waders NO LESS!! ;D
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i actually find it easier to wade without waders. once your nuggets get used to the cold theres no problem. most waders are bulky and get annoying when trying to wade. if you get the loose fitting breathable nylon ones they create more drag behind you. and with all the money i dont spend on waders i can make more trips up there. ive noticed that almost every person asks you why you arent wearing waders. its like wearing red or neon green to a funeral.
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i don't think you want to be without waders as that water cools! have you ever tried wading salmon river in nov????? even now the water is cold! you can actually suffer from hypertherma ....i wear hip boots as long as i can then switch to neopreane waders.... i love hodgeman!
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serious note boys.... this is the best thread in mff!!!! the info is great and everyone has fun!we don't pertend to be fishing gurus or literary geniuses, we do however know how to laugh and have fun,this is the only thread where comman sense is the rule and not the exempton! it's where everyone wishes the next guy the best ,and good times are shared ! i do say that perhaps mff should use this thread as a model . it is the one thread that shows the true meaning of sportsmenship....
AMEN to that Trap!!! Now everybody go catch some fish!!!--KP :)
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Wednesday October 7th fishing/water conditions report: Just checked Orwell and Trout brooks up in the higher reaches! There in good shape, not flash flooding or anything, there up perfect, except a ton of leaves in the water. Thursday could be a BANNER day on the creeks! Didn't check South or North Sandy, but they should have a reasonable run ( not great, already had 2 runs) Thursday! With the River going up tonight the 9 day Bonanza Salmon Blitz is going to get more difficult. There should be good action in the Diversions behind the Shoolhouse and Ellis Cove, but with higher waters, the only access will be to walk up from the trestle pool south parking area!( Can't park behind the school anymore or along the road) Be very careful when crossing waters your unfamiliar with Thursday!]
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Your Like the master of puppets. Instead of giving a few of us a clue, you are now the clue master for the whole thread. :o
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i don't think you want to be without waders as that water cools! have you ever tried wading salmon river in nov????? even now the water is cold! you can actually suffer from hypertherma ....i wear hip boots as long as i can then switch to neopreane waders.... i love hodgeman!
LOL, I remember fishing the North Sandy with my nephew in early November, must have been 16 yrs. ago now, and he forgot to bring his waders. He toughed it out in 35 degree temps wading up to his jewels. I thought he was going to freeze to death. He managed to live through it though. BTW we got skunked that trip. LOL.... Good times!!
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I went to the other place..Today.... :w00t:
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Snagger, the answering machine is still messed up on my end! I need you to call me tonight as soon as you get time I need to talk to you! :-\ :-\
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Snagger, the answering machine is still messed up on my end! I need you to call me tonight as soon as you get time I need to talk to you! :-\ :-\
YOUR DRUNK! It's been good since yesterday morning! ;D
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I went to the other place..Today.... :w00t:
Wow nobody up there or is it crazy if you pan the camera around facing the damm!!!
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THERE WAS NOBODY IN OSWEGO!!!! AT THE DAM!! I would have to say that there was only 30 guys in the upper end by the dam Sangger. So it was very fun.. :laugh: Pink, Pink,Pink!! Sacs and Estaz. The funny thing is that there is a bunch of fish at the dam as well. Steelheads,Browns and Kings no Cohos,I don't know why but still a lot of fish.
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THERE WAS NOBODY IN OSWEGO!!!! AT THE DAM!! I would have to say that there was only 30 guys in the upper end by the dam Sangger. So it was very fun.. :laugh: Pink, Pink,Pink!! Sacs and Estaz. The funny thing is that there is a bunch of fish at the dam as well. Steelheads,Browns and Kings no Cohos,I don't know why but still a lot of fish.
I never used to go over there til the first week of November and was still FULL of SALMON, sometimes til Christmas in a drought year! PILES of SALMON were running Orwell and Trout Brooks just before dark, they've made it to Mill Street in numbers on Orwell! Looks like the gauges for the Sandies are still rising, water will be on the high side Thursday, but fishable for people who enjoy the higher waters, probably a few Chrome, Domestic's and Brownies too! ;D 2009 SALMON STREAK Continues!!!
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Hey if you want some walleye pointers, the Korean ladie who sits on a bucket up at 2 dogs spot under the bridge said she'd take you fishing for a small fee! :w00t: Be careful down there For Show, wouldn't want you to fall down and hurt your mushmellon big self! :flex:
I have gotten all the pointers need now its time for some #$% whooping. Tell Dave he can check it out and see if its for show, when I get there tomorrow morning. HOW BOUT THEM YANKS
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I have gotten all the pointers need now its time for some #$% whooping. Tell Dave he can check it out and see if its for show, when I get there tomorrow morning. HOW BOUT THEM YANKS
:unsure: Be careful Jelly Legs, could get yourself in trouble tomorrow in 1400+cfs at the LB! :unsure: Snagger said you won't bring your limit in, in the Big Boy Water!! :rotflol: :rotflol: Go Yankees!!!!!
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Snagger,
I'll be up tomrrow with a group of 6 till Tuesday . where is your cleaning shop at? If we keeep any fish we'll stop buy. Thanks for all the report's
Shawn
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snagger fix you phone!!!!!!! your answering machine is screwed up!
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snagger fix you phone!!!!!!! your answering machine is screwed up!
When did you call, I just got a message and talked to the person 5 minutes ago!
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i have waded several times in november and even in march with no waders. snagger i may have to stop in and pay you a visit if i catch anything. my fillet knife isnt big enough and i cant find one over 8 inches around here!
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Hey MAYOR, your pm box is full
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GO YANKEES!!!!
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hey snag i'll be up sometime tomorrow bro .....caveman your telling me you waded salmon river in march???? we still have shelf ice and 4 foot of snow here :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: water in 30's ...i'm a local boy you can't sell me that line
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Another Spectacular day for the guys staying here! Fish cleaning numbers actually went up! BIG numbers of fish hooked and landed in Orwell, Trout, and Sandies! Guys also wacked a Fresh Bunch of Steelies coming through the HUGE water in Pulaski! The Diversions were also very HOT Today! 2009 - 13 day SALMON STREAK continues!!!!!!!!!! ;D Good luck tomorrow and be Careful! Oh forgot to say, opened up a small domestic today from the South Sandy and 4 huge light orange rubber eggs and about forty real salmon eggs were in it's small belly! There like little vacuum cleaners! 1150cfs til Saturday now! Pineville gauge reading 1430cfs!!!
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fished trout brook from about 5:30-7:00 last night. we did really good. my buddy got a few and i hooked up with 28 fish! all salmon, no trout. they were in pretty thick where we were, and really went on the move just before dark. just talked to another buddy who was down river and he said the water was ripping but their were good numbers of fish moving. they limited in 3 hours near 2a, with a decent steelhead and a big male brown in the mix.
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fished trout brook from about 5:30-7:00 last night. we did really good. my buddy got a few and i hooked up with 28 fish! all salmon, no trout. they were in pretty thick where we were, and really went on the move just before dark. just talked to another buddy who was down river and he said the water was ripping but their were good numbers of fish moving. they limited in 3 hours near 2a, with a decent steelhead and a big male brown in the mix.
Ya, even with the big water, some of the guys here are saying it's the best trips they've ever had with me in 16 years, for this time frame anyway! Just got to go to certain little high water hideouts! Should be a great day at South Sandy and our Creeks here too! Glad you had a good day BigBrookie! Go get em boys!
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ya, you can still find good fishing in high water if you know where to go. i've had great days fishing the same conditions as we have now. looks like another good storm is about to roll through today. i cant sneak out of work early today, so i wont be up til tomorrow afternoon or sunday. if my motor is fixed on my boat, i might hit up onieda instead to try for some eyes and perch.
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ya, you can still find good fishing in high water if you know where to go. i've had great days fishing the same conditions as we have now. looks like another good storm is about to roll through today. i cant sneak out of work early today, so i wont be up til tomorrow afternoon or sunday. if my motor is fixed on my boat, i might hit up onieda instead to try for some eyes and perch.
My favorite steelhead run is at 1300cfs, but I can't fish for a couple weeks yet! My buddie landed 21 walleyes last night at Oneida from Shore! Flat conditions to boot, there are in, that's killing me too!
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they should still be in in a couple weeks. you'll get em! herd the perch are still on a good bite too.
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SO FAR MOST OF THE RAIN HAS BEEN SHEERED OFF TO THE SOUTH IN PA.!, But the Jet Stream is about to buckle and it will be arriving later today! I hope we don't get more than an inch. An inch of rain we could handle, anything more, and high waters could become a problem this weekend, we'll wait and see!
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SO FAR MOST OF THE RAIN HAS BEEN SHEERED OFF TO THE SOUTH IN PA.!, But the Jet Stream is about to buckle and it will be arriving later today! I hope we don't get more than an inch. An inch of rain we could handle, anything more, and high waters could become a problem this weekend, we'll wait and see!
ITS raining like cats and dogs here!
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Just ordered my weapon for the STEELE CAGE match! ??? Snagger hows the rain up there gonna flood?
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Oneida from Shore! Flat conditions to boot, there are in, that's killing me too!
Snagger, Ummm we have been killing them all week!! Just started where I fish for them Tuseday night.
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snagger good to finally get to met you , i must say if anyone wants a relaxed place to stay with real fisherman at a reasonable price ,snaggers is the place,quilty cleaning station too!
Good to finally meet you too Trapper and nice meeting you Tank out in the fillet station! ;D So far no rain, but it's only a matter of hours now! It will help the creeks, but not the River! Heard South sandy was good today and Orwell & Trout Brooks were descent! The Diversions slowed down a bit! NO Lower end Reports Yet! Enough Salmon up here anyway, just need the River Down a touch is all!
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no fish in grindstone!
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Nice meeting you at your cleaning station snagger. Hopefully we can get together on the ice sometime.
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Hey Snagger,
Is it worth it to come up tomorrow(Sat.) to fish the main river? I am not one to fish the small streams. I am 75 miles out.
Thanks for any info,
KC
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Forgot to ask, do you think the fly zones are fishable at this flow? Maybe Tom's run?
KC
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Forgot to ask, do you think the fly zones are fishable at this flow? Maybe Tom's run?
KC
Columbus day weekend crowds! It's your call!, lots of fish and water is up, but not bad! The lower fly zone is ripping, but tom's run would be borderline!
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Thanks Snagger will probably see you tomorrow
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Friday October 9th Fishing Report: Another very good day on the upper River for my guys! Not quite as good as thursday, not as many new fish replacing the older fish or the ones being harvested as a couple days ago, but still good! The creeks were pretty crowded and it was a banner day for most, but they need new water and I don't know if this little bit of rain will do it, I hope it does! The Sheer numbers of people this holiday weekend will be good for business, but will make most area's up River or the Tribs a ZOO! Cleaned some steelies today, all had empty bellies! Can't wait to toss a few sac's in a week or two! Hope everyone has a great time this weekend, and safe! ;D
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Hey trapper, I seen you had a kayak on your truck, heres my Kayaks for the River! I lend them out sometimes to the regulars before and after the Salmon Crowds! Catch ya later! How was the Oswego dam this afternoon, got guys asking about it! PM me if you want! Shane!
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Just ordered my weapon for the STEELE CAGE match! ??? Snagger hows the rain up there gonna flood?
hope it was a net :w00t: :w00t:
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wow i actually slept in snag whats the water and crowds look like up there , yesterday after noon oswego had a lot of fish i was feeling fish almost everydrift....targeting steelies now boys ....snagg the eggs you froze for me will be the ticket :) thanks man
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COUNT DEADEYEZ IN FOR THE STEEL CAGE MATCH IN NOVEMBER! i NEED SOME EXTRA CASH! :w00t:
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COUNT DEADEYEZ IN FOR THE STEEL CAGE MATCH IN NOVEMBER! i NEED SOME EXTRA CASH! :w00t:
Just thawed a big bag of July waldo's for the guys! Having a Redneck surf-n-turf barbecue later. Backstraps and waldo's!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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snag hows water levels and crowd so far today
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snag hows water levels and crowd so far today
I stopped at Ellis last night and people were crossing no problem, saved some more skein for ya! Just getting ready to go look at the Crowd situation, theres cars on the side of the road in front of my house, cause the parking lots are full! Duct taping my hands right now for today's massacre! Catch ya later!
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darn snag! redneck surf and turf!!!! i'll be up tomarrow any news on the sandys? or orwell,guess i'm going to have to hit little water or go elbow to elbow lol hey the magic bait paid off bro thank you
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My nephew who lives in Pulaski called me today and told me about a giant coho caught in one of the Sandies today, 33lbs. Anyone else hear of this fish?
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Just thawed a big bag of July waldo's for the guys! Having a Redneck surf-n-turf barbecue later. Backstraps and waldo's!!!! ;D ;D ;D
July of what year?????for it to be a true Redneck surf-n-turf you should have had a hard time telling which meat is which! and it should have taken you an hour or more to break up the ice it was entombed in. HEY save some for when i get up there :evil:
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And I am missing all of this !! >:(
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Took a short drive today to see what was happening! Saw ALOT of towns people and local farmers making a few extra bucks for christmas today with all the extra parking needed in our area during the annual Columbus Day Weekend crowds! It was a great Sunny day and alot of happy faces everywhere I went! As far as fishing was concerned, it wasn't bad! Pretty good actually! Creeks are getting too low now for some fishermen, but at a great level for people who enjoy harvesting a few and eating them! The upper end of the River has alot of fish all over the place! This weekend should be a great boom to the local economies, during a tough Recession! Hope everyone has a great one! I know my guys are! l
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Heres a pic of Ellis Cove today taken by Lehigh Valley!!! Great Shot!!
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For all of you who don't know what a Fillet Station is, heres a pic of me and Lambaste em cutting a few up!
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My nephew who lives in Pulaski called me today and told me about a giant coho caught in one of the Sandies today, 33lbs. Anyone else hear of this fish?
I didn't hear nothing about it, I weighed a 24lber back in the late 90's from South Sandy, they do get big ones over there! ;D
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Heres a pic of Ellis Cove today taken by Lehigh Valley!!! Great Shot!!
That's a great pic, I always loved that spot!
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Rob takes some awsome pics. Glad to see you are having a good year.
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Another happy boy from the Lodge this weekend! ( 28lb. hen!) ;D Looking out my window, it is still very crowded, but 1/4 of my guys already left for the weekend. Should be back to a more comfortable atmosphere by Monday! It really wasn't that crowded this weekend compared to other years!
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For all of you who don't know what a Fillet Station is, heres a pic of me and Lambaste em cutting a few up!
hey snagger do you shuttles thinking about bringing the drift boat up later in the season.
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hey snagger do you shuttles thinking about bringing the drift boat up later in the season.
Theres usually someone here that will drive down with you to drive you back to the boat!
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hey snagger do you shuttles thinking about bringing the drift boat up later in the season.
Let me know I'm up at snaggers lodge all the time, I'd drive ya! Plus if you have an open seat I'd be glad to go with with ya now that the salmon madness is over.
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Let me know I'm up at snaggers lodge all the time, I'd drive ya! Plus if you have an open seat I'd be glad to go with with ya now that the salmon madness is over.
Thank's no.1 i'll let you know when. icedd
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Hey snagger real soory bout them red sox, must really hurt being swept. I know it hasnt sunk in yet cuz you are so busy, but just think you can watch the yankees win there first ring in the new stadium. :laugh:I will be up tomorrow morn, so if you could leave me out the stuff... Call me tonite I will let you know what i need. Also my buddy wants to come but I have no more rods, if you got an oldy he can borrow you know him het stopped there and used my pole teice this weekend.
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Our fraternity brother and house photographer with a nice September Coho! Nice fish lehigh Valley!
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Nice Fish.
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Sunday October 11th fishing Report: Fishing was still pretty good on the upper end with a better mix of coho's, steelies and browns coming into the fish cleaning station! Everyone I talked too said that the creeks are now Dead Seas, except early in the lower reaches! The Ellis Cove/Diversions area are now the biggest producers!!!!! Should be a good week if the water goes back down for both Salmon and steelies! Good luck monday guys!
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on saturday, there were a lot of guys on orwell in the hole just below the rt 52 bridge. i got them all to leave when i shouted " there's free vodka in owego!!"
where do all those russians or whatever come from?
we caught quite a few fish and had fun watching a punk from nyc thrashing up and down the creek. he finally fell in, but it didn't slow him down much.
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1150cfs all WEEK! >:( I'm driving up to the Big Res. to see if this is justified! don't get me wrong it's very fishable, but being fish cleaning is part of my living and wanting all of you bank anglers happy and safe, that Res. better be FULL!
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we were up from the 4th to the 11th. We hammered them above the trestle early in the week, the ballpark mid week and when the water came up we hammered them in the diversions and had a great time in the main river where Trout comes in. Got mostly kings, 1 steelie and I got 2 nice male cohos. Anyone see the guys with the airhorns hooking all the fish, and everytime they got one on they would blow the airhorn, and when it got off they would blow it again? What a riot!
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For all of you who don't know what a Fillet Station is, heres a pic of me and Lambaste em cutting a few up!
You should be the Bush N/A poster boy.
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we were up from the 4th to the 11th. We hammered them above the trestle early in the week, the ballpark mid week and when the water came up we hammered them in the diversions and had a great time in the main river where Trout comes in. Got mostly kings, 1 steelie and I got 2 nice male cohos. Anyone see the guys with the airhorns hooking all the fish, and everytime they got one on they would blow the airhorn, and when it got off they would blow it again? What a riot!
Yo i was up rite the mouth of trout brook...was about to run down and kick those guys in the river...we were the younger guys acting like morons all weekend it was a crazy time thats for sure!!! great fishin until today then it just died!
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hey snagger where is this orwell brook everyone is talking about tried too find it but i cant. Please help out a brother and draw me a map too it. :unsure: :unsure:
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1150cfs all WEEK! >:( I'm driving up to the Big Res. to see if this is justified! don't get me wrong it's very fishable, but being fish cleaning is part of my living and wanting all of you bank anglers happy and safe, that Res. better be FULL!
Let me know....I'll be pi$$ed if they run it at 1150 all week and then in November there is no water to get a DB down to 2A....
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Hey guys I'm headed up there for the first time tomorrow morning. Could someone please help me with where to start as I'm a rookie? Thanks. I appreciate it.
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You should hire Northwoods. A guide is the best way to learn the river and techniques. It is worth every penny.
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Let me know....I'll be pi$$ed if they run it at 1150 all week and then in November there is no water to get a DB down to 2A....
That could happen Ice Geek, alot of weather to get through between now and then though! I drove up to the Big Res. and She's 3 1/2 Feet Down from high water mark on the spill gates. About 20 feet of gravel on the Shoreline! For some unknown reason, the power company has a target this year of keeping the Res. with 4 feet of room for storage. :blink: If it don't rain, lets see if it goes to 750cfs about Wednesday! That's where it should be now, if not a touch lower! ;D
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Hey guys I'm headed up there for the first time tomorrow morning. Could someone please help me with where to start as I'm a rookie? Thanks. I appreciate it.
Waters a little high right now, not dangerous, just an unnatural flow that makes the whole River sort of look the same, because all the runs and holes are covered up! If I was New, I would Start at Ellis Cove and watch the other anglers, after a while you will see a pattern form as to where most of the hook ups are coming from! Theres fish throughout the River, but this is a good beginners spot! It's 1 1/4 miles on the left after crossing the Altmar bridge coming from RT.13!
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Monday October 12th Fishing Report: I got alot of Valuable fishing info today from people staying here and off the street from fish cleaning! Out of Respect to them, I won't tell exact spots, but the Steelhead Action was ON FIRE up here today with floats and sac's!!! And ALOT of cookie cutter Browns were caught today down River!!! Meanwhile fresh kings and coho's are still being caught all throughout the upper end of the River! It was a very good day on the River with the CROWDS dieing out fast by days end! Good luck Tuesday!!!!!
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Thanks Snagger. I'll let you know how I do!
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HEY SNAGGER YOUR ANSWER MACHINE IS SCREWED UP, JUST TRIED TO CALL.
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A lot of kings left in the river even at this high water mark! All fish are shooting right to the top. The lower end(staircase hole) is empty! just half dead Salmon cleaning Redd's. No fresh kings in the lower end everthing in the upper end with this high water. I fished the North entrance to the trestle pool part of the river and there where a ton of king working beds and pushing by. You have to sort out the healthy ones! VERY FEW PEOPLE FISHING!! A local guys dream!!!
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Nice mix of steelhead, kings and browns coming into the station today!! Much less people fishing the River today, but the upper River still has quite a bit of traffic from drift boats and now steelheaders too mixed in with the Salmon guys! Hope you have a great Day out there!!!! Pretty RAW and Cold, only 42 degrees for a high today so far!
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Yo Snagger Give me a report! 8) Im coming up with a newbie early AM Cya after you get up probley. Hows it feel to be so poplar?
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Yo Snagger Give me a report! 8) Im coming up with a newbie early AM Cya after you get up probley. Hows it feel to be so poplar?
Your buddie that stopped bye did good today! Sandies are DEAD!!!! Some in lower Orwell and Good at Ellis islands! Buried a hook past the barb under my thumbnail while still attached to a live fish today stripping eggs out of it! Didn't see it cause it was a black steelie hook! May not be fish cleaning tomorrow, we'll see! Horrible day for me, good numbers, but a few injuries!!! You know where to go, steelies at the "Turn"!!!
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Newbie question,. I was thinking of coming up this week for the sole purpose of getting some salmon eggs. I dont really care for eating the salmon but... I want to catch a salmon, harvest the eggs and then let her go? is this legal?
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Newbie question,. I was thinking of coming up this week for the sole purpose of getting some salmon eggs. I dont really care for eating the salmon but... I want to catch a salmon, harvest the eggs and then let her go? is this legal?
Being a newbie, landing a loose female could be a challenge in it's self!!I don't think that other thing would look too good! Just stop bye my house, I got lots cured and curing right now!!! ;D
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good call i don't know the way to do it and the fish will not swim a way it stresses the fish out to throw back!!!
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hey snagger, you are the altmar outfitters right that clean the fish? ya well we went salmon fishing this year we go over to orwell and we always have and will bring our fish to u guys to clean them you people do a great job.
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hey snagger, you are the altmar outfitters right that clean the fish? ya well we went salmon fishing this year we go over to orwell and we always have and will bring our fish to u guys to clean them you people do a great job.
Really great year on Orwell this year, wasn't it!!!! See you next trip! ;D Hurting today though!
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Lots or zebra's around now it is almost CHROME time but there is a good number around now !!!! CAN'T WAIT I KNOW IT IS GOING TO BE GOOD!!!!!! :o :o :o
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Lots or zebra's around now it is almost CHROME time but there is a good number around now !!!! CAN'T WAIT I KNOW IT IS GOING TO BE GOOD!!!!!! :o :o :o
Almost took a few casts Yesterday, then realized I didn't have a new licence! ;D By the time I got a new one, there was too many fish to clean!! would love to hook some Early Chrome!!
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Hey FishingJason, heres a pic of where the steelhead fishing has been hot latelly on floats. Looking down from the unemployment hole through the boulders to the Barrel hole with the leaning tree!
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That could happen Ice Geek, alot of weather to get through between now and then though! I drove up to the Big Res. and She's 3 1/2 Feet Down from high water mark on the spill gates. About 20 feet of gravel on the Shoreline! For some unknown reason, the power company has a target this year of keeping the Res. with 4 feet of room for storage. :blink: If it don't rain, lets see if it goes to 750cfs about Wednesday! That's where it should be now, if not a touch lower! ;D
Rivers going to 750cfs thursday night where it should be. I don't know why there keeping 4 feet of room in the Big Res., but atleast I can predict future water drops and rises based off what there doing up there! One last Salmon Bonanza in the upper River this weekend and a very good flow for Bank anglers looking to cash in on some Steelie / brown trout action ANYWHERE on the River too!!!! You early steelie guys got me good yesterday in the fillet station with one of your jig hooks and light leader in a salmon's bellie, Man Down Today!
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Hey SNAGGER, how's your BO BO? I know a fisherman who caught a hook in a part of his body that i can't mention here! so it could always be worse.It was a female doctor who removed it as well
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Hey SNAGGER, how's your BO BO? I know a fisherman who caught a hook in a part of his body that i can't mention here! so it could always be worse.It was a female doctor who removed it as well
Took the Day off, got to throw a couple casts!!! Hooked 2 steelies up at the Turn, good fun!!! ;D The one Arm bandit got a monster casting fly line below the bridge!!!
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Took the Day off, got to throw a couple casts!!! Hooked 2 steelies up at the Turn, good fun!!! ;D The one Arm bandit got a monster casting fly line below the bridge!!!
Wendy just started walking today, so I'm starting to get my gear ready for a road trip :w00t:
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Wendy just started walking today, so I'm starting to get my gear ready for a road trip :w00t:
BIGTIME STEELHEAD ACTION SOON!!!!
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OVER 48,000 READERS AND NO SIGNS OF SLOWING DOWN!!!!!
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Hay Snagger stop showing everyone my good winter spots! HaHa ???
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Hay Snagger stop showing everyone my good winter spots! HaHa ???
Looks really crowded in the picture!!!! ;D Filleted 2 over 14lbs today, Steelies that is!!
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any snow up there yet? live an hour south and just got some of the first snow of the season last night.
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hey north woods how u been pal hope you had a good salmon season. be up in a few weeks for some goose and walleye action ill look you up when i get in town. :bowdown:
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Fishing Report For Wednesday October 14th: Guys did good on fresh kings in lower reaches of Orwell brook and parts of Trout brook after that little bit of Rain we got! The Diversions and Ellis Cove are slowing down with less fresh Salmon and More beat up ones than a few days ago! 750cfs (if we get it) should help improve numbers this weekend on landing salmon! Had some friends that did good on Steelies today, but not as good as yesterday's pod that came into Altmar! They might just be more educated today after being hooked yesterday!!! All in All, still good fishing all over the general area! Leaves are turning fast and it's getting cold quick, Salmon are going to go fast now!!! It's almost steelhead season!!!
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BIG FROST KNOCKING OFF MAJOR AMOUNTS OF LEAVES!! Going to be one of those days on the River where the leaves are a nuisance! RIVER TEMPS ARE DROPPING RAPIDLY, this should excellerate Salmon Spawning and with 1150cfs, the presence of more steelhead!!!!!! By the time the water recedes to 750 cfs or lower, the upper portion of the River should be loaded with steelies and browns for November!! The one good thing about all the 1150cfs in the last week or so, is the steelies,salmon, and browns pretty much got a free ride through the gauntlet down river during our busy season!!! ENJOY!!!!
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Hey Buddy! Nice little update post you got going here. Hopefully people appreciate the daily first hand updates from someone that lives ON THE RIVER. We will definitely be swinging by the shop Saturday morning. Bringing up two good friends for steelies, from the looks of things, it could be a pretty good day! ;D Talk you then!
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Hey Buddy! Nice little update post you got going here. Hopefully people appreciate the daily first hand updates from someone that lives ON THE RIVER. We will definitely be swinging by the shop Saturday morning. Bringing up two good friends for steelies, from the looks of things, it could be a pretty good day! ;D Talk you then!
Hey Big Red long time no see! Can't wait to see you again! How have the boys been out your way? Should be a good weekend as long as it don't get too crowded! Crowded is good for me, but not so good for you guys! If the River goes to 750cfs, should spread the guys out! You can fish down River as well as up here then. Catch ya later man!!
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Hey snagger heading up tomorrow morning. Tell Lambastem its time for our little competition he did a lot af talking when he couldnt go out fishing. Here is the rules we go to 2 spots each picks 1! If his little hands dont hurt him to much. O yea and if he can wake up early enough. Give me a shout later 2nite
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i fished the sportsmen hole the other day without much luck although it was mid day had a great time seeing snagger and fish slappin dave take care boys
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Hey snagger heading up tomorrow morning. Tell Lambastem its time for our little competition he did a lot af talking when he couldnt go out fishing. Here is the rules we go to 2 spots each picks 1! If his little hands dont hurt him to much. O yea and if he can wake up early enough. Give me a shout later 2nite
Can I come too! Is it like BOWLING, how much of a HANDICAP do we give you!!! :w00t:
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i fished the sportsmen hole the other day without much luck although it was mid day had a great time seeing snagger and fish slappin dave take care boys
Nice BSing with ya trap, you really know you stuff about the Oswego River!!! Showed me a few tricks I'm going to try for the Springtime Waldo's next season !!! Thanks TRAP!!! ;D
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debating salmon river,oswego or tribs right now lol
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debating salmon river,oswego or tribs right now lol
Geez Trapper, Must be nice to live close to these rivers. I'd be fish-n every day.
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jack i do ;D oh the draw back is were in the snow belt and 3 to 4 foot of lake effect is common
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Hate to butt in on this Trapper but I have to ..Don't forget ice fishing and walleyes on Oneida lake as well. So much to do up here in the fall and winter.. Deer season is starting up this weekend and rifle in the north next weekend. The steelheads are going to be lonely for a few weeks.. ;D
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sorry simple but oct 1 was my first day out with the bow sat maybe the front stuffer ;D but so many fish right now lol hope to see ya up there i been parking over by larrys shop red jeep with tan canoe on top bro
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........hey shane! as usual we had a great time salmon fishing this year. I'll keep an eye out here but give keith or I a call when the steelies get thick! Thanks for every thing
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Fishing today was the same as yesterday, pretty decent!!! Everybody is waiting for tomorrow, when the river reveals the runs and riffles again at 750cfs!!! It should be a great day on the River, very curious just how many steelies/browns are in the River system!! We'll see, got guys at all ends tomorrow! I personally like 1150cfs in alot of spots up river for steelhead, but got to get some Salmon harvested and out of the way first! 750cfs for the weekend should do it!
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jack i do ;D oh the draw back is were in the snow belt and 3 to 4 foot of lake effect is common
Yeah, Those 3-4' snows aren't to my liking. I love the ice fishing too BUT, When snow gets that deep I have to wait til somebody breaks a path for me. Those shoveling days on the ice are gone. Thank you guys for all the info.
Jack
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Yeah, Those 3-4' snows aren't to my liking. I love the ice fishing too BUT, When snow gets that deep I have to wait til somebody breaks a path for me. Those shoveling days on the ice are gone. Thank you guys for all the info.
Jack
Hey jack Hope you had a good time up here this year, Maybe next year we'll get to meet! I got to admitt, I can't sleep when we are getting smashed with a good lake effect storm. I love em!! Tough on the back these days though! hope you have a great Rest of the season! Shane Wow! What a beautiful sunny calm morning, full fall foiliage too, great picture day!
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Hey Snagger we got a couple inches last night, Supposed to get a few more on Sat. Pm. actually snowing right now. Just a little early for Ithaca. :-\ Sorry I didnt meet your quota the other day.
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Hey Snagger we got a couple inches last night, Supposed to get a few more on Sat. Pm. actually snowing right now. Just a little early for Ithaca. :-\ Sorry I didn't meet your quota the other day.
Not only is it early for Ithaca, but at my home in the North east corner of Connecticut last night i had 3 inches of snow! I've lived here since1969 and I cant remember it ever snowing that much in October. I hope its not a sign of things to come! Hey Snagger, how's your hook wound healing? you have to be carfull with that it could lead to the swine flu. You haven't been sniffling lately have you?
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I've been following this thread and thought you guys might appreciate this link
<http://www.southbendtribune.com/article/20091016/Sports/910160320/1001/Sports>
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I've been following this thread and thought you guys might appreciate this link
<http://www.southbendtribune.com/article/20091016/Sports/910160320/1001/Sports>
Couldn't open it!!! Hey, went across the street for an hour. Hooked 6 Nice Steelies, couldn't land any of them on 6lb. line with all the guys around, saw another half dozen or so hooked in the short time I was there! Ellis Cove Looks like last weekend again (a ZOO!!!) Saw Some really nice Red Coho's on stringers and a few big browns! What a great day to be on the River, sunny and in the mid 40's, no wind, bright colored trees! Well, back to fish cleaning guys!!
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Hey jack Hope you had a good time up here this year, Maybe next year we'll get to meet! I got to admitt, I can't sleep when we are getting smashed with a good lake effect storm. I love em!! Tough on the back these days though! hope you have a great Rest of the season! Shane Wow! What a beautiful sunny calm morning, full fall foiliage too, great picture day!
Snagger, I hope next year is a better year health wise and if it is I'll be out there a number of times. The bug has bit again. Thanks for all the info.
Jack
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Couldn't open it!!! Hey, went across the street for an hour. Hooked 6 Nice Steelies, couldn't land any of them on 6lb. line with all the guys around, saw another half dozen or so hooked in the short time I was there! Ellis Cove Looks like last weekend again (a ZOO!!!) Saw Some really nice Red Coho's on stringers and a few big browns! What a great day to be on the River, sunny and in the mid 40's, no wind, bright colored trees! Well, back to fish cleaning guys!!
6 Nice Steelies in an hour? YOU ARE DA MAN, and your killing me sitting here behind this d**n keyboard.
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Snagger, save some eggs for my boy, Going to try for Sunday morning for a trip up!!! Hope your season is going well!!! See ya soon!! going to PM you.-- KP :)
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Friday October 16th fishing Report: A spectacular day for the guys staying here that were targeting steelhead and not a bad day either for the guys targeting salmon! Still good numbers and good looking fish coming into the station. Still some kings with tight eggs too! The River is still very CROWDED though up here in Altmar! Had guys get some steelies down near the LB & BP, but it was way better up River from what I heard! Hope everyone does good saturday!
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I NEED MORE SNAGGER EGGS!!!!!!! LOL SHAWN I MIGHT STOP IN I'M HEADING OUT NOW FOR A TRIB THEN THE RIVER ;D
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HEY HAVE YOU NOTICED THIS THREAD OSWEGO RIVER AND ONIEDA ARE THE ONLY THREADS THAT THE GUYS GET ALONG AND SHARE INFORMATION! EITHER WHERE FRIENDLIER, HAVE BETTER FISHING,OR ONLY GUYS THAT REALLY FISH!!!!! I HONESTLY THINK IT'S BECAUSE WERE JUST A GOOD BUNCH OF GUYS THAT LIKE TO FISH AND ENJOY OURSELVES ,BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HEAR WHAT EVERYONE THINKS ON IT ,DO KNOW OUR THREADS ARE READ MORE THEN ANY OTHERS! OK I'M FISHING SMALL WATER TODAY CATCH YA ALL THIS AFTERNOON! AND REMEBER IF THEY DRESS ALL IN ORVIS CLOTHS AND DRIVE A SAAB TRY TO AVOID LONG CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, JUST RECOMMEND THE DOUGLASTON TO THEM :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
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HEY HAVE YOU NOTICED THIS THREAD OSWEGO RIVER AND ONIEDA ARE THE ONLY THREADS THAT THE GUYS GET ALONG AND SHARE INFORMATION! EITHER WHERE FRIENDLIER, HAVE BETTER FISHING,OR ONLY GUYS THAT REALLY FISH!!!!! I HONESTLY THINK IT'S BECAUSE WERE JUST A GOOD BUNCH OF GUYS THAT LIKE TO FISH AND ENJOY OURSELVES ,BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HEAR WHAT EVERYONE THINKS ON IT ,DO KNOW OUR THREADS ARE READ MORE THEN ANY OTHERS! OK I'M FISHING SMALL WATER TODAY CATCH YA ALL THIS AFTERNOON! AND REMEBER IF THEY DRESS ALL IN ORVIS CLOTHS AND DRIVE A SAAB TRY TO AVOID LONG CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, JUST RECOMMEND THE DOUGLASTON TO THEM :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
Trapper, You guys that live on the river are invaluable to guys like myself that will only make a few trips out a season. Really appreciate the posts from the guys that really fish and know what they're talking about. Thanks to you guys again.
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The guys staying here that did the morning shift, did pretty good on steelies across the street this morning! Beads and sac's under a float! Now there going Salmon hunting! Not quite as many cars looking out my window this morning as yesterday, but Ellis is still VERY CROWDED I heard! Where were all these people in September, we had the whole River to ourselves and tons of fish, strange year or maybe a new trend!
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Hey SOXFAN your PM box is full, need to make a few more posts to get more room for personal messages! More members than lurkers right now, thats a first! ;D Must be there fishing in our spots!!! :w00t:
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HEY HAVE YOU NOTICED THIS THREAD OSWEGO RIVER AND ONIEDA ARE THE ONLY THREADS THAT THE GUYS GET ALONG AND SHARE INFORMATION! EITHER WHERE FRIENDLIER, HAVE BETTER FISHING,OR ONLY GUYS THAT REALLY FISH!!!!! I HONESTLY THINK IT'S BECAUSE WERE JUST A GOOD BUNCH OF GUYS THAT LIKE TO FISH AND ENJOY OURSELVES ,BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HEAR WHAT EVERYONE THINKS ON IT ,DO KNOW OUR THREADS ARE READ MORE THEN ANY OTHERS! OK I'M FISHING SMALL WATER TODAY CATCH YA ALL THIS AFTERNOON! AND REMEBER IF THEY DRESS ALL IN ORVIS CLOTHS AND DRIVE A SAAB TRY TO AVOID LONG CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, JUST RECOMMEND THE DOUGLASTON TO THEM :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
:bowdown: HANDS DOWN, THE BEST OF THE BEST WHEN IT COMES TO VALUABLE INFO!!! THANKS TO ALL THAT SHARE WITH US!! OH YEAH, THE YANKEES WON LAST NIGHT!!!!!!!! JUST A LITTLE INFO FOR YOU ALL!!!!--BE SAFE AND HAVE SOME FUN!!!--KP :)
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snag no water in oswego i'll be up there in the morning bro.....did you say steeliesssssss ;D ty for the kind words jack actually river fisherman just happen to be the best people in the world! and your one of us! hope to meet you soon!
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hey snagger new to this post your posts and your buddies are great for us home in pa. sree you on the 4th with the gang , got ahold of rob said he would be glad to take the new guys out LATER
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hey trapper--are you the trapper I met years ago fishing with [hate to say this]-D. Wilcox
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yea KINGPERCH we know---we-ll see you in the series
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Hey Bunker Killer: Go Yankees!!!! Do the Red Sox's and the Met's still have teams????? "The Mayor"
Hey MAYOR, Remember this :flag: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:LETS GO YANKEES
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HEY HAVE YOU NOTICED THIS THREAD OSWEGO RIVER AND ONIEDA ARE THE ONLY THREADS THAT THE GUYS GET ALONG AND SHARE INFORMATION! EITHER WHERE FRIENDLIER, HAVE BETTER FISHING,OR ONLY GUYS THAT REALLY FISH!!!!! I HONESTLY THINK IT'S BECAUSE WERE JUST A GOOD BUNCH OF GUYS THAT LIKE TO FISH AND ENJOY OURSELVES ,BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HEAR WHAT EVERYONE THINKS ON IT ,DO KNOW OUR THREADS ARE READ MORE THEN ANY OTHERS! OK I'M FISHING SMALL WATER TODAY CATCH YA ALL THIS AFTERNOON! AND REMEBER IF THEY DRESS ALL IN ORVIS CLOTHS AND DRIVE A SAAB TRY TO AVOID LONG CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, JUST RECOMMEND THE DOUGLASTON TO THEM :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
:bowdown: HANDS DOWN, THE BEST OF THE BEST WHEN IT COMES TO VALUABLE INFO!!! THANKS TO ALL THAT SHARE WITH US!! OH YEAH, THE YANKEES WON LAST NIGHT!!!!!!!! JUST A LITTLE INFO FOR YOU ALL!!!!--BE SAFE AND HAVE SOME FUN!!!--KP :)
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love this site & yes i have been lurking since spring ps i am a computer moron
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snag no water in oswego i'll be up there in the morning bro.....did you say steeliesssssss ;D ty for the kind words jack actually river fisherman just happen to be the best people in the world! and your one of us! hope to meet you soon!
Thanks Trap and would be great to meet ya.
Jack
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some fish from oswego over the last couple of days....
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hey war glad to see you made it man!hope to catch you up at the dam
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i will prolly be up there tomm.. when you going next?
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i'll be there bright and early,i fished lock 7 area today but it's been dead since yesterday when they stoped the water ,catch ya there
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Nice to see you on board... Warmachine, I'll be back up monday at the same place on friday.. Hope we'll have water.
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some fish from oswego over the last couple of days....
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NICE RAINBOWS!!, those guys are eating machines! Great colors!! WELCOME ABOARD MAN!!!
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BEST STEELHEAD DAY OF THE YEAR! Big reports on steelies today from most of my guests who were targeting them and cleaned quite a few also ! Most were solid 9-11lbers! I snuck out 3 different times for about 40 minutes each time. I hooked steelies everywhere I went! one steelie I lost was a good 16lber, put one on the rope that was 11 1/2lbs. They are in as good as last year at this time, seems to be a few more big ones this year!! Had some friends in Pulaski that said it was solid action where they were too! Opened up the steelies in the station, more large orange plastic crazy eggs in there bellies again! I did good on Pink Salmon Sac's, they didn't want nothing to do with white today, watched a few guys do well with beads too! Bottom bouncers were lighting them up in a couple of the larger pools! Salmon fishing was still decent, but it's slowing down quick, there just in the way now, but if you still want some for the freezer, there are some very clean ones around if ya hunt a little! WHAT A GREAT DAY, besides a few grumpy guys who think they own the whole river!!!!! Oh well to each his own, they didn't spoil my day!!!! Hope you guys have a great one tomorrow
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i should be up for the afternoon shift snagger,hitting oswego first
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??? hey, can someone answer me so I know I'm doing this right. I'm a fisherman, not a computer wiz
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??? hey, can someone answer me so I know I'm doing this right. I'm a fisherman, not a computer wiz
Whats your question?
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just wanted to make sure i was doing this right, our gang always stays at snaggers place coming up nov4--8 maybe meet you guys thanks for the answer
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just wanted to make sure i was doing this right, our gang always stays at snaggers place coming up nov4--8 maybe meet you guys thanks for the answer
your posting just fine, I might just be at Snaggers myself around that same time
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thats great we'll get together for a few cold ones we stay in the back cabin stop over names RICK
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just remeber guys your in the home of the NY YANKEES!!!!!
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Hey snagger sounds like the fishing is good, how were the crowds? Planning on tuesday still?
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Hey snagger sounds like the fishing is good, how were the crowds? Planning on tuesday still?
STILL VERY CROWDED!!!!! That should change tomorrow! Time for everyone to get in trees for bambi!!! In the last 2 days, the only arguments I've gotten into are with steelheaders wanting to take up the whole River, not Salmon guys. I can get a rythem & work with them! Now that the river's down, hopefully some of those "Elitists" will go to DSR! What's up Rick?? Another beautiful sunny day on the River!!
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not much snagger - keep up the great work you guys are doing on this site the best yet hard to find a true site that tells it like it is -- other sites, ( FISHING IS FANTASTIC ALL OVER ,COME IN MY SHOP I"LL SELL YOU WHAT THERE HITTING) yea right sell the other people your B.S. see ya soon RICK -------- GO PHILLIES!!!!!!!!!!!
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Had a great time .I think we all got into nice fish. :thumbup_smilie:
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Nice coho ! :bowdown:
Still some nice kings in the river too.
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Had alot of steelies on the hook . But could not land the rockets on 6#. Fun to try. Thanks too altmar outfitters filet guys. Great job dave I will eat good tonight.
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I can get a rhythm & work with them! Now that the river's down, hopefully some of those "Elitists" will go to DSR!
I don't care for those L.L. Beaners :cookoo: I get them looking at me with my 10.5 foot noodle rod with a float.. :-*
Guess what, Um mm..IT WORKS!! Oh the last time I knew the Salmon river was mostly a public fishing stream!! It pi$$es me off when people act that way.. You don't need a 100 yards of river to fish a CENTERPIN!! Hell I have been catching most of my fish within 20 feet of my casting point. :blink: :blink: and 2.5 FOW..DUH!! Fools!! I have to get back up there Sangger sounds like a lot of fun!! I don't know? I only have a 70.00$ outfit... :w00t: lol.. I don't need to spend a grand to catch a fish!
I do just fine with a 100.00$ bill outfit.. 10% of the fishermen catch 90% of the fish..
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to late the old man has broken out the st croix !!!! i get my tooth yanked then i'll show ya how this steelheading is done!!!! i don't buy my stuff from orvis or l.l. bean i wear hodgeman....... now lets knock the strips off em boyz ;D
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I got those waders for $60.00 lifetime guarantee. The DEC never gives me a second look either.
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I got those waders for $60.00 lifetime guarantee. The DEC never gives me a second look either.
Ya! They are still here, you took someone else's waders home! I couldn't leave the property today, too busy. But have cleaned quite a few trout, so there still knocking them out!! Good luck boys!!
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oh no wiredstone! not you buddy,were complaining about the morons that show up in a volvo or saab and think they own a river we been living on all our lives! it's a bitter pill to take when you personally pick up the river and helped with the stocking! when you give the best and most honest information to people you can then to have someone show up that bought everything he has on from orvis or L.L. bean ....who doesn't spend any money in the locale econmy,who belittles the locale town folk then be a rude azz on the river! it's not right and won't be tolerated here. people like that should do one of 3 things ...1# go to the dsr 2# only fish with a guide in a boat 3# stay home ....like i said they spend no money,and we don't need them
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My bad.You are so right.
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I was lucky this weekend . All the people I fished with were great. :thumbup_smilie:
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ohhh great wired wish i was up there with you! but i fished oswego all this week met 3 memebers and had a great time!
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Ya they are still here, you took someone else's waders home! I couldn't leave the property today, too busy. But have cleaned quite a few trout, so there still knocking them out!! Good luck boys!!
:cookoo: I just checked. Med. cabelas. I will be back in 2 weeks and bring the back. I need more sleep !
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You guys all rock, and the info is friggin' fantastic!!!
But why do some of you get so wound up about what people WEAR?
Do my Simms waders suddenly make me a d-bag or something?
I've fished my entire life and learned quickly what equipment is going to hold up to 80+ days a year in the water. I've owned them all and lived everywhere from the FL Everglades to Mt McKinley in Alaska...
If you want to own trustworthy equipment, you gotta' spend some scratch. If you're putting in a few weekends a year you can get away with anything you want. But if you're hauling yourself into the backcountry every weekend, the cheap crap ain't gonna' cut it.
Just seems about time to ease up a bit. Let's talk fish. Not automobiles or fashion.
Also- GO YANKEES!!!
(Sorry Snag :laugh: But at least you don't have to pay any attention to baseball until the Steelies slow down next May... Fish On!)
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This is awsome.... ;D ;D ;D
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jimmy it's not what they wear it's how they act
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Amen, Brother...
I was just getting worried they were being judged before they even opened their mouths...
I just hope good gear and a nice truck doesn't suddenly make someone an ass in some people's minds before they even open the door of their vehicle or something. "Asses come in all classes", we all know that!
For the record- I've probably got the smallest paycheck of anyone on this thread, but a pretty insane portion of that check stays in Pulaski every weekend before I head back down the Thruway. Even with a free place to stay- a man's gotta' eat, swill beer, and buy new flies, floats, etc.
I'd fish with you anytime Trapper, if you'd allow a poor guy with Simms waders and a William & Joseph chestpack to share your company. Again, if you're really going to hammer on your gear and get more than a year out of it, you're going to have to pony up some dough. Fishing is my life- so that's where my hard-earned money ends up being spent. I am sure there are plenty of others like me out there everyday.
I am just saying that what brand of waders a guy wears sure as heck doesn't mean squat.
It's the character (or lack thereof) that makes the man.
(Or, in some cases, their preference for New England baseball teams- ZING! ;))
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Started March 3 2009
By Snagger
Now 7 months later
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This is awsome.... ;D ;D ;D
forgot 2080 posts
the most posted and viewed thread on myfishfinder.com
that is 637 more than the next most posted thread (oneida lake diehards thread) on here, and it has 7,919 more views than the next most viewed thread (lets see what you look like! post a picture!) on here!!
i agree, its awesome ;D ;D ;D
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You guys all rock, and the info is friggin' fantastic!!!
But why do some of you get so wound up about what people WEAR?
Do my Simms waders suddenly make me a d-bag or something?
I've fished my entire life and learned quickly what equipment is going to hold up to 80+ days a year in the water. I've owned them all and lived everywhere from the FL Everglades to Mt McKinley in Alaska...
If you want to own trustworthy equipment, you gotta' spend some scratch. If you're putting in a few weekends a year you can get away with anything you want. But if you're hauling yourself into the backcountry every weekend, the cheap crap ain't gonna' cut it.
Just seems about time to ease up a bit. Let's talk fish. Not automobiles or fashion.
Also- GO YANKEES!!!
(Sorry Snag :laugh: But at least you don't have to pay any attention to baseball until the Steelies slow down next May... Fish On!)
I'll be the first to admitt that I'm a little on guard sometimes! But like trapp said, I've fished here most of my life and have seen ALOT of changes! In the future for you Jimmy, I'll try to be more patient and not stereo type people so quickly! I can usually tell if someone is a cool guy, just by the way he carries himself!!! But Believe me when I say it, I will continue standing up for the working man and FAIR Regulations on These tributaries! This a put and take fishery, and should be managed as one, PERIOD! Have fun out there boys!! ;D Oh by the way, cleaned a 11 1/4lb. brown and a 12 1/2lb. steelie today! 5 LARGE orange rubber eggs in the steelies bellie again!
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You guys all rock, and the info is friggin' fantastic!!!
Also- GO YANKEES!!!
(Sorry Snag :laugh: But at least you don't have to pay any attention to baseball until the Steelies slow down next May... Fish On!)
You know I'm definetlly not a Yankees fan, but is anyone else rooting for a Joe Torre "VS" Joe Gerardi World series!
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You know I'm definetlly not a Yankees fan, but is anyone else rooting for a Joe Torre "VS" Joe Gerardi World series!
No doubt, my man... That would be really cool to see Girardi match up against his mentor. I bet it would be a pretty classy world series.
In the future for you Jimmy, I'll try to be more patient and not stereo type people so quickly!
No worries, Brother... It's not as though my feelings are hurt or anything, I am one of those 'hard working guys' you speak about. I guess what I am trying to say is that if locals want folks to come to town to support thier businesses it might be wise to lay off some of the bashing on the most-read thread on this site 8) I admit I hang out with some anglers who have some money- but I can also attest that they spend more in your town in one weekend than I make in a month. And I am sure they love every minute of it.
You know, I've got a noodle rod myself and I ain't afraid to use it!!! :D One of these weekends I'll cruise by your place in my 200,000 mile truck and it will probably become quite obvious that we're all in the same boat (so to speak).
I am saving up my pennies right now so that I can buy an Orvis hat to match my ripped up Carhartts ::)
Plus, if you play nice, you can come over and hang out at my house and wail on some Stripers this spring downtown, and pull a few walleye out of my lake from the frontyard. I'll make sure I've got some iced tea for you or something :D
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jimmy i fish with a sage rod and a st croix buddy it's not what people have it's the way they act. when someone for any reason thinks they own the river or has more rights then anyone else ,well thats just not right trust me 95% of people are great folks but if you fish the rivers everyday like we do you will run into the bad ones.
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it's not what people have it's the way they act.
Amen, again.
On a totally unrelated note (that the Syracuse-area gang will know), is it just me or is Billy Fucillo's new chick on the car commercials hot or what? Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge!!!
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looks better then tom :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
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No doubt, my man... That would be really cool to see Girardi match up against his mentor. I bet it would be a pretty classy world series.
No worries, Brother... It's not as though my feelings are hurt or anything, I am one of those 'hard working guys' you speak about. I guess what I am trying to say is that if locals want folks to come to town to support thier businesses it might be wise to lay off some of the bashing on the most-read thread on this site 8) I admit I hang out with some anglers who have some money- but I can also attest that they spend more in your town in one weekend than I make in a month. And I am sure they love every minute of it.
You know, I've got a noodle rod myself and I ain't afraid to use it!!! :D One of these weekends I'll cruise by your place in my 200,000 mile truck and it will probably become quite obvious that we're all in the same boat (so to speak).
I am saving up my pennies right now so that I can buy an Orvis hat to match my ripped up Carhartts ::)
Plus, if you play nice, you can come over and hang out at my house and wail on some Stripers this spring downtown, and pull a few walleye out of my lake from the frontyard. I'll make sure I've got some iced tea for you or something :D
How did you figure me to be a noodle rod guy and not a center pinner! :w00t: Well I am!!!! Sometimes I run floats and sometimes I don't, depends on what mood I'm in and the run I'm fishing!! I actually like my 7 weight 10 1/2' fly rod with light mono in some tight runs up here, it's DEADLY! Too many people run pinn rods, so mines on the rod rack! I got to be different and old school!! ;D Plus going to have walleye on the brain soon too!
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No doubt, my man... That would be really cool to see Girardi match up against his mentor. I bet it would be a pretty classy world series.
No worries, Brother... It's not as though my feelings are hurt or anything, I am one of those 'hard working guys' you speak about. I guess what I am trying to say is that if locals want folks to come to town to support thier businesses it might be wise to lay off some of the bashing on the most-read thread on this site 8) I admit I hang out with some anglers who have some money- but I can also attest that they spend more in your town in one weekend than I make in a month. And I am sure they love every minute of it.
You know, I've got a noodle rod myself and I ain't afraid to use it!!! :D One of these weekends I'll cruise by your place in my 200,000 mile truck and it will probably become quite obvious that we're all in the same boat (so to speak).
I am saving up my pennies right now so that I can buy an Orvis hat to match my ripped up Carhartts ::)
Plus, if you play nice, you can come over and hang out at my house and wail on some Stripers this spring downtown, and pull a few walleye out of my lake from the frontyard. I'll make sure I've got some iced tea for you or something :D
Geez, Walleye in the front yard ??? Your own lake !!!!!!!! You got it made.
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Never tried the centerpin myself, but it sure looks effective on the Chrome!
As for equipment, it looks like great minds think alike... Maybe some of these weapons look familiar?
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I am just getting into noodle rods lately. My stepbrother in the Navy has a good friend from the military who owns a house right in town below the Town Pool. Grew up there, I bet most of you guys know him well. In fact, I think Stoney's got some property very close by my buddy's too? Know what I'm talking about?
He gave me his old 10' Riversider noodle a few weeks ago and I've been addicted to it ever since.
I immediately ran down the street (in my sweet waders) to Salmon River Sports and spent a small fortune gearing up with floats, weight kit, micro swivels, etc. but I gotta' give the SRS guys props for really hooking me up and helping me out.
Those guys are always wicked cool to me in there compared to a few other (unmentionable) joints nearby.
I love the idea of drifting for those Browns next month. I know you're not big on those Butterbellies Snagger, but they sure do make for some sweet photos in November, and the Steelies keep me on my toes too when I need a shot of adreneline.
I hit 'em with the fly plenty, but it's hard to beat drifting sacks through those deep holes now that I've got the weight distribution figured out and learned how to 'read the float', etc. I even had it out in the Sportsmans Pool and whacked a few smaller Browns below the bridge with it last weekend. White sacks were the ticket.
Seems like those brownies like the white ones the best so far, huh?
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If I took a picture of my bedroom walls, you might pass out at how many rods I own!( no wife and no kidds) You want too talk about fat browns, that 11 1/4lb brown today had 2 1/2lbs. of skeined eggs in it! That's more than some salmon have! White and pink have always been my favorites through the years! These days theres alot of off colors available like peach, salmon,yellow, purple( all though haven't found a soft purple netting yet) that work really well too, chartruese is an old stand by in dirty water! Not to mention all the light Orange plastic eggs I've been finding this year in their bellies that look like the new hard bead thing that has a bizillion color combo's! The steelhead are STUPID right now, if you target them, you will get them on alot of things, but once it gets cold and the Salmon are gone, it's a different story Jimmy!
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Yeah man!
I'm usually only good for two or three Salmon outings each Fall 'cuz I lose my mind with all the people...
But once Halloween passes and the salmon (and crowds) die off I am all over that place quite a bit in the winter in between ice fishing outings and then April and May you probably won't be able to keep me off the Thruway driving towards 81!!! I'm an ice fishing fanatic, which makes the decisions tough in Jan and Feb.
When I found myself standing waist deep at 6am in -3 degree weather last February in Altmar it became quite obvious to me that I had a serious Steelhead Problem... No use fighting the addiction anymore, I guess.
I know it's the salmon that pay the bills out there- but it's the METALHEADS that throw the party!!!
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Yeah man!
I know it's the salmon that pay the bills out there- but it's the METALHEADS that throw the party!!!
It's always been about the Steelhead for me, especially LARGE ONES! Me and a man named Bruce Walden ( and he was the man!) used to hunt the Same 20+ pound males every spring on the Sandies back in the day! There was another guy who used to smoke a cigar all the time named Van middlesworth or something! We used to leap frog around each other from stream to stream looking for MONSTERS every spring, what GREAT DAYS they were! Hey MAYOR remember that monster I hooked 5 days in a row and still never landed it over at S.S. back in the early 90's, I'll never forget that fish, every bit of 25lbs! I haven't persued steelies that much in last couple years since I quit drinking, guess I needed a break, burned out or something! Plus the River has been kind of full of cookie cutters and not many high teens or 20lb. plusers! Once I started seeing bigger ones this year, I feel the itch again, atleast a little bit, before I get serious about my Oneida Lake eyes and Ice Fishing! The River really is LOADED right now! IT"S SILLY!!!! :w00t:
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Hey Jimmy right now is when you have the best chance at a 20lber. being I clean fish this time of year, I always miss out on the best time to target the larger ones, which is at the tail end of the Salmon run!!! (It used to eat me alive when I was younger)! Right now is also the best big brown trout fishing on this River too, (November out west!) The Salmon crowds will be cut in half monday and the steelheaders aren't here full force yet! Nice little window! Although the salmon guys which showed up very late this year seem to be lingering pretty heavy duty this year and this River is popular again! 4-8 years ago everybody went to lake erie tribs, it was great, had the whole county to yourself, but everybody came back! I got fish to clean in the morning, good night jimmy, nice talkin too ya!
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Geez, Walleye in the front yard ??? Your own lake !!!!!!!! You got it made.
It's just a little 110 acre lake, but hits 40ft and holds some nice Wally's...
I've got a great video of a biggun' swimming in my bathtub from last year's ice season. Pretty funny.
And being able to see the tip-ups out the bedroom window during "Football Sundays" is hard to beat :laugh:
Trouble is, when you've got nice crappie/smallies/walleye in your yard then you want Stripers from the Hudson down the road. Then you want pike from Saratoga Lake. Lakers from Lake George. And then you want Steelies from Pulaski.
Weird how that works- but yeah, if there is one good thing about a 9-5 workday it's that I get to catch the "evening bite" at home every evening when I walk outside to get the mail :P And having a raging bonfire in midwinter (or on a summer's evening) makes things a lot more enjoyable. Maybe you guys can make it to my annual ice fishing party this winter... Or the third-annual "Jimmy Jam" the last weekend of August each year.
Big time fun, and some really great fisherman!!!
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You know I'm definetlly not a Yankees fan, but is anyone else rooting for a Joe Torre "VS" Joe Gerardi World series!
GO Joe but he got spanked last night
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Going to be a big leaf day in the River today, had a low of 22.7 degrees! leaves are falling off the trees like crazy now that the sun is cracking them! I'm looking at an apple tree right now, it lost all it's leaves in the last 10 minutes, pretty cool how mother nature works! In the old days, the 2nd leaf day was the last run of Salmon, they were alot more excellerated this year will multiple cold nights and days, plus high waters! Nice location Jimmy! Looks like another Sunny beautiful day again!
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GO YANKEES!!!!! ;D
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jimmy i fish with a sage rod and a st croix buddy it's not what people have it's the way they act. when someone for any reason thinks they own the river or has more rights then anyone else ,well thats just not right trust me 95% of people are great folks but if you fish the rivers everyday like we do you will run into the bad ones.
Hey Trap!, Would you feel the same about me if I pulled up in a VOLVO, wearing a cabela's vest and waders, with those shades with the picture of fish on them?????? :w00t:LOL!! I'm thinking a Wednesday Day of fishing!! We'll stop by the ALTMAR OUTLAWS PLACE then hit the river!!! I'll be there tomorrow but, not to fish!!! Have a great day everybody!!!!--KP :)
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St. Crois is way outta my league lol nothing worse than a 100 yd drift right down the whole run, and yet they still dont seem to produce the numbers! I cant wait to get up there tuesday, sounds the steeleheads are gonna be fun. Show um how its done
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Hey SNAGGER, There seems to be as many people here talking about THE YANKEES as their is about the fishing
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Hey SNAGGER, There seems to be as many people here talking about THE YANKEES as their is about the fishing
It will be great if the Yankees won a world Series finally in my lifetime, so I can stop listening to everyone bring up the past on the history channel about how many rings they won before I was born!!! :w00t:
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It will be great if the Yankees won a world Series finally in my lifetime, so I can stop listening to everyone bring up the past on the history channel about how many rings they won before I was born!!! :w00t:
Thats Great! :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie:
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Looks like they are gonna put some magic in there new stadium. Hows the cleaning business snagger, getting slow yet. DId you give poor dave a break? Be up there tomorrow, looking forward to taking dave out!
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Looks like they are gonna put some magic in there new stadium. Hows the cleaning business snagger, getting slow yet. DId you give poor dave a break? Be up there tomorrow, looking forward to taking dave out!
Well 10:30am and still waiting for my first fish! Is that Good? I'm taking a ride right now to look around the area! see you Tuesday! ALOT of FRESH CHROME yesterday Down river! The ones I cleaned where white like pillow cases/with black steel backs!
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Took a little ride, WOW not many people around! I fished for about 15 minutes, no luck, but saw 6 steelies hooked by other anglers! All on fly rod and fly line! A couple of pigs, alot of leaves in the water, couldn't get a long enough drift, just short ones! Only about 25 vehicles at Ellis compared to a 100 yesterday! Drift boat parking lot is jammed up good though!
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.....shane, the yankee comment was great! Thinking about coming up again sunday and monday if all goes well.
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everyone is going to disagree with me on this but......99% of the time color is no where as important as the size and the drift! if you have a good drift bouncing bottom all along or a good long float and not getting hits i recommend first try a smaller sack if that doesn't help go to a really big gobstoper egg sack ....also during low water aa drift with no weight or float with a gobstoper is often the ticket....i never worry much about color of sacs flies is another story.........personal opinion based on experance
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Walked up to the bridge and fished for about 40 minutes, landed a nice female king and a 7lb. steelie! Walked them down and I'm sorry Jimmy, but a fly guy would not move one inch to let me land them, had to practically run him over! Same as Saturday, it won't get any better, I'm sorry to say! They never give us guys with knee boots and blood all over are jeans from fish cleaning any respect! Let the fun begin, it's Steelhead Season! :w00t: :clapping:
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Ha ha- I hear ya' Snagger... Well deserved right there!
Of course, it does go both ways, since I had three guys pack right up next to me in the Sportsmans Pool two weeks ago who decided that since I was catching fish they must all be right at MY feet or something.
That was annoying as heck too :D
And those dudes looked like they just walked out of an episode of "My Name Is Earl", so I suppose all is fair in Love N' Salmon Season, huh?
It's funny how I got pegged as the "fly guy" from probably sounding defensive in the posts from last night.
Guess you didn't notice the 8lb flouro and orange sponge on a Size 6 red hook in that photo I posted ;) I am all about using whatever it takes to wail on some brusiers!!! Ha!!!
I suppose the moral(s) of the story are this:
This is one killer thread with a whole lotta' sweet info
Jerks come in all shapes, sizes and income brackets
Snagger is king of awesome reports and I shoud just read 'em and keep my mouth shut
Apparently Volvos and Cabelas are no longer 'en vogue' in Central New York
Keep up the fish slaying out there, fellas... I promise to lay low and stop looking like an attention-sleeper for awhile. I can sincerely say I was just trying to look out for the locals who want folks to spend money in town (understandably) but only want to take money from those who look the part. :P
I should know better- sarcasm rarely translates too well on the internet.
Thanks again for this thread, Brother. I just know I don't want to suddeenly become the unnoffical spokesperson for everyone who owns a fly rod (regardless of what type of line is on the spool).
Lest you forget, I fish with Pulaski natives too... I wish we could go back in time and knock down a few cold ones at Stoney's Place and rock out to some sweet jams. Maybe in due time, my friend. Maybe in due time!
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....you would think that seeing a guy with blood all over him would be enough to get them to move. May be you should drape some guts on your spinning rod for a little more effect ;)
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Thanks for the pm Snagger just what i needed to get me thinking about this weekend I will be up Friday night
see ya then :P
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....you would think that seeing a guy with blood all over him would be enough to get them to move. May be you should drape some guts on your spinning rod for a little more effect ;)
I personally witnessed the "PROFESSORS" tactics today!! There was one guy who would'nt budge when SNAGGER Yelled ,"FISH ON!!" NICE CATCH SNAGGER!!!!!--KP :)
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All I meant Jimmy was I was going to try to be more patient with other anglers because of you opening my mind a little! But it's hard sometimes! Went back to the bridge, this time I sat on the ground and went 1 for 2 on steelies in 20 minutes, walked this one down and everyone moved out of the way, and they were fly guys! Nice people, I landed it and let it go, no problem! Better group of guys than earlier! That guy earlier in the green waders needs a lesson in manners and River etiquette is all! I didn't stereo type you Jimmy, you have rods very similar to mine! Good talking to ya! Hey Soxfan tomorrow I'll bring up one of my rotting gut barrels and sit on and fish!! :w00t: :clapping:
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just let them know you'll get under his rod and set the hook ;D
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RIVERS GOING DOWN TO 500cfs wednesday night at 9pm! THAT SUCKS, I like 750cfs ALOT! Good level to get the salmon harvested and out of the way though! Now I want it to rain! 500cfs is OK, better than 385 I guess! >:(
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COOL UNDER WATER PICTURE KEVIN!!!!
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Monday October 19th fishing report: Guys here did really well with good looking kings and bright steelhead! I don't know anybody who fished the lower river, But it was a Spectacular day up at this end! Everywhere I snuck off too was doing good for steelies and some salmon! Brilliant fall colors and bright sunshine and mild temps all day! Plus the monster crowds are gone for the year! We Cleaned some impressive size male kings and some nice cookie cutter steelies! Have a great one tomorrow! ;D
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That is an awesome picture! Hey Snagger you just look to intimidating showing up and catching those steelhead like you do. Them guys were just besides thier selves. Who was that bloody panted, half evolved looking guy walkin on down here for 2 minutes and catchin fish like that? Ya should have handed them a business card. :P
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That is an awesome picture! Hey Snagger you just look to intimidating showing up and catching those steelhead like you do. Them guys were just besides thier selves. Who was that bloody panted, half evolved looking guy walkin on down here for 2 minutes and catchin fish like that? Ya should have handed them a business card. :P
Hey Black Albey kill any deer yet? What about Jeffrey Dahmmer and randolph? Bobber Down you getting in shape for the STEELCAGE MATCH AT ONEIDA!
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All I meant Jimmy was I was going to try to be more patient with other anglers because of you opening my mind a little! But it's hard sometimes! Went back to the bridge, this time I sat on the ground and went 1 for 2 on steelies in 20 minutes, walked this one down and everyone moved out of the way, and they were fly guys! Nice people, I landed it and let it go, no problem! Better group of guys than earlier! That guy earlier in the green waders needs a lesson in manners and River etiquette is all! I didn't stereo type you Jimmy, you have rods very similar to mine! Good talking to ya! Hey Soxfan tomorrow I'll bring up one of my rotting gut barrels and sit on and fish!! :w00t: :clapping:
Snagger, When I used to come out there alot years ago I fished both Oswego and salmon River and gotta say salmon river was my favorite because we would net other guys fish and they got where they would offer to net ours and guys knew the quicker somebody got their fish out the quicker they could fish again. I had fish bouncing off guys waders in oswego and ya think they would net it for me, Heck no. Just seemed like the Oswego bunch were not nearly as friendly. I had alot more rude and unethical guys at Oswego.
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Snagger, When I used to come out there alot years ago I fished both Oswego and salmon River and gotta say salmon river was my favorite because we would net other guys fish and they got where they would offer to net ours and guys knew the quicker somebody got their fish out the quicker they could fish again. I had fish bouncing off guys waders in oswego and ya think they would net it for me, Heck no. Just seemed like the Oswego bunch were not nearly as friendly. I had alot more rude and unethical guys at Oswego.
I was just writing on a Cayuga lake thread about fishing my younger years with alot of old timers who have since passed on. These days nobody to teach the younger generation how we used to do it, probably from the strict regs. these days! Nobody wants to be caught up in the guilt by assosiation! It's too bad! If I'm ever around I won't be afraid to net your fish bud! These days if your a bottom bouncer your automatically a liner or lifter! I can line just as many fish with a float! If you don't lift your rod HARD at the end of your drift your fishing, you have to pick it up for your next cast! Funny the pinners get to use BARE hooks and lead above 4 feet! ;D
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I was just writing on a Cayuga lake thread about fishing my younger years with alot of timers who have since passed on. These days nobody to teach the younger generation how we used to do it, probably from the strict regs these days! Nobody wants to be caught by guilt by assosiation! It's too bad! If i'm ever around I won't be afraid to net your fish bud! These days if your a bottom bouncer your automatically a liner or lifter! I can line just as many fish with a float! If you don't lift your rod HARD at the end of your drift your fishing, you have to pick it up for your next cast! Funny the pinners get to use BARE hooks and lead above 4 feet! ;D
I hear ya snag, I used to net fish for guys and some would be in the mouth and many fish had mouths all over their bodies. ;D ;D I didn't care for 2 reasons ,one these fish were dying salmon and second I wasn't the one putting the fish on the stringer. These guys came from all parts of the country just to get a crack at the salmon and spent alot of money in Pulaski giving it quite a shot in the arm. Heck, My son and I were offered money for the fish we caught just because these guys didn't want to go back home empty handed. Most times we released them but sometimes we would give them away if somebody asked. These out of staters were excited when they would bring one in gray or black colored. I kinda got a charge of how excited they got.I used to drift but didn't have the exagerated lifting or repeated rod lifts across the river but caught plenty of foul hooked fish too and RELEASED them. Someday I hope to meet you and some other locals so you can teach me the correct way to fish these fish. ;) ;)
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Snagger, I forgot to mention, I tried not to bring my boys out on the weekends because the weekends I watched guys actually fist fighting over fish. I hooked it and it's mine and NO, I hooked it. Used to laugh my butt off listening to these guys getting so upset over dying salmon.All and all some of the greatest times in my life. ;D
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I watched guys actually fist fighting over fish. I hooked it and it's mine and NO, I hooked it. Used to laugh my butt off listening to these guys getting so upset over dying salmon.All and all some of the greatest times in my life. ;D
You said it man, I've probably got some good times left in my life, but for sure the greatest times in my life were some of days up here years ago man!!! It just used to be all out FUN up here! Nice talking to ya Jack!
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Cloudy and cool this morning!] The refraction factor for fishing line will be poor this morning resulting in less active steelhead and less steelie hook ups! Our short little bonanza should be temporarilly over today! Not to say it won't be decent, especially if it brightens up a little later! We'll see! Days like today, the guys running floats will whoop on everybody else! Not as many cars out my window! Well got to go cure some eggs, hope my hoses aren't frozen again like yesterday! Good luck out there!! As of 10:30am sky's have brightened Just cleaned some really bright kings!
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Hey Black Albey kill any deer yet? What about Jeffrey Dahmmer and randolph? Bobber Down you getting in shape for the STEELCAGE MATCH AT ONEIDA!
I am not sure about Chris, Dahmer shot a small 8, and i gave a nice 8 a haircut, but that has been it. I ll be gettin the Steelhead urge pretty quick. You have any eggs cured up?
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I was just writing on a Cayuga lake thread about fishing my younger years with alot of old timers who have since passed on. These days nobody to teach the younger generation how we used to do it, probably from the strict regs. these days! Nobody wants to be caught up in the guilt by assosiation! It's too bad! If I'm ever around I won't be afraid to net your fish bud! These days if your a bottom bouncer your automatically a liner or lifter! I can line just as many fish with a float! If you don't lift your rod HARD at the end of your drift your fishing, you have to pick it up for your next cast! Funny the pinners get to use BARE hooks and lead above 4 feet! ;D
Remember that day on the wall that we were hooking fish all day and at the end of the day that guy finally hooked one, and it went across and the black dude would not quit horsing the guys line? his retort was very memorable, and I am suprised that a brawl didnt ensue. It used to be the center wall against the west wall. That was around the time you saved that guy who was lake bound by grabbing his wader belt.
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One Hour ALTMAR Report: Snuck over to the River for an hour only hooked one big steelie and a couple accidental salmon! Not as many hook ups as last few days, steelies are getting educated, plus big boat traffic! Seen a guy land a solid 15lber. Heard it was decent at first light, then slowed down! I was fishing pink egg sac's bottom bouncing, no float guys in my Run. Did see a guy get a couple with a strike indicator and fly line and egg pattern! ALL AND ALL, MUCH SLOWER THAN LAST 4 DAYS for STEELHEAD!!! Now the Rivers going to 335cfs on Friday for the weekend!!! Sure am glad they pumped out all that 1150cfs instead of an extended 750cfs! Steelies are going to get real educated now!!! ;D ;D
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I had a long talk years ago with Fran Verdaliva about bank erosion and silt issues with natural reproduction on the Salmon River! One of the reasons so many trees are tipped over along the River banks and some area's are washed out, is from Extended periods of 500cfs, 750cfs,1150cfs,1500cfs,1800cfs during the months that vegetation is not actively growing or holding the banks together with their root systems! If this River flowed naturally( flooded and then went dry) or went back to the old days of no controlled water releases, it would help with those issues, but we would'nt like it much as fishermen I guess. So at least the 335cfs flow will help with erosion issues and future naturally reproduced fish!!
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Hay Wiredstone, did you take that picture with the one you showed me at mill street? If so we will need to use that feature over the winter! :thumbup_smilie:
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well i'm packing buckshot into parachute cord wondering if i will get lead posioning ..... the river looked good to me today with 3 hook ups,oswego showed it's colors after they raised the water a little.....
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Hay Wiredstone, did you take that picture with the one you showed me at mill street? If so we will need to use that feature over the winter! :thumbup_smilie:
I have got some cool shots with this camera this year. Should catch up with you some time this year. tight lines.
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Won't be long and we'll have snow banks again up here like in that pick. Nice steelie wirestone!!! Cleaned some very healthy silver jack chinooks tonight, good sign for next year's Run! Man they were big for jacks! Another couple of monster kings, one topped out at 27 1/2lbs. Still cleaning good looking salmon, but noticed alot of skunks when I was over to the River. Crowds have really thinned out now, except in a few key area's! My buddy smashed some good chrome in Pulaski today!
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:w00t: WINTER STEELHEADS!!!! :w00t: WINTER STEELHEADS!! :w00t: WINTER STEELHEADS!! :w00t:
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hey snagger! if the on center is going to have a ice fishing show i think altmar outfitters should be there to repersent the winter steelhead fisherman! and our motto can be
STEELHEAD FISHING ...ice fishing without augers with some help from a friend we can get the steelhead booth next to some of our ice fishing buddys both ...i volunteer ;D.......
oh KP do ya see where i'm going with this ;D
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wired you are elected offical photographer of the "salmon river regular guys steelhead and salmon stack em and slap em " club ...enjoying the pictures man keep them coming....
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HEY SNAGGER, Is that Philster inthat pic?I can tell the one in the center is Murry he.s always on that side of a camera! GREAT PICS WIREDSTONE :clapping: :clapping:
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:w00t: WINTER STEELHEADS!!!! :w00t: WINTER STEELHEADS!! :w00t: WINTER STEELHEADS!! :w00t:
Funny sometimes you get that same look!
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Hey Lambastem Is the man giving you any time to fish yet?
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Hey snagger sorry i didnt stop back in I was running way late. Seen a couple browns get hooked after you left, one really nice one. How did lambastem do down in town? Well wont be back up for a little while, gotta put time in my stands. We are still on for monday nite though right?
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Hey snagger sorry i didnt stop back in I was running way late. Seen a couple browns get hooked after you left, one really nice one. How did lambastem do down in town? Well wont be back up for a little while, gotta put time in my stands. We are still on for monday nite though right?
He hooked 8 in about an hour and a half. 2 browns and 6 steelies! Then he had to split, got to work on his truck! I went back over, I didn't hook anything, but saw a few hooked! Cloudy again and water going down! SUCKS! Watching that storm that's been stationary out west, should get picked up by the jet stream change soon! I heard the Big Res. is low, I'm going to take a drive up today!
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Looks like you are going to have to switch to WALDOS! How bout we check out oneida?
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Looks like you are going to have to switch to WALDOS! How bout we check out oneida?
You said it, 11;30am and only cleaned 3 fish!!!! Waldo's here I come!!! SOON!!! Parking lot out my window is now only half full, NOBODY up at the Bridge!!! WOW, has anyone seen the size of the Winter Storm that stretches from the Mexican boarder to the canadian border, it has really gotten MASSIVE! Come On RAIN!!!
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SO the weather is crazy. I am going to Oneida some time this week... Gotta hit it good atleast once. You down for a little waldo match? Maybe even bring the little guy. :laugh:
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hey snagger! if the on center is going to have a ice fishing show i think altmar outfitters should be there to repersent the winter steelhead fisherman! and our motto can be
STEELHEAD FISHING ...ice fishing without augers with some help from a friend we can get the steelhead booth next to some of our ice fishing buddys both ...i volunteer ;D.......
oh KP do ya see where i'm going with this ;D
Yeah, I see where your going with this....... I'll check in with the head HONCHO and see what I can do for an extra space next to YOUR BUDDY!!! ::) TEAM RIVER RATS RULE!!!!!--KP ;D
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Lets Go Phillies :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
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LET'S GO YANKEES!!!!!! ;D
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Anybody have any reports about the lower river? I went across the street today for about an hour and a half. Only hooked 2 steelies and a salmon! One was only on a few seconds, the other was a good 6lb. jumper! The steelies up here are getting dark already, alot of crusties swimming around! Fish cleaning died today, but still cleaned some fresh kings! Guys must of had to work through the crusties to get them! Watched a guy who knew what he was doing that hooked into a fair amount of steelies, I couldn't get to where he was fishing cause I wasn't wearing waders! Next week when I'm done fish cleaning! Nice fishing with ya Kingperch! Hope everyone had a great day!
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Fiesty one from the bovines with northwoods
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My camera is on the fritz, but heres a picture from last winter of my best friend Dave with a nice Steelie!
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Hey Wirestone remember looking like this after a days fishing!
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Ok I spent 3 hours of my life last night trying to load a pic into my avatar! Is there any young kids out there that can tell me how to do this before I get so angry, I go take it out on a steelhead. Which by the way, must be people love LOW Water, cause I can see ALOT of fishermen out this window up at the bridge! Might half to fight my way into the maddness! ;D The "Annual right of Argueing with others at "the Unemployment hole", God I love Fall, Life is good! ;D
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HERE YA GO SNAGMAN GOOK LUCK
To add an Avatar picture to your account...
1st - resize the picture you want to a maximum of 120 x 120 pixels on your computer.
2nd - open up another window to photobucket and upload that photo to your photobucket account.
3rd - Left click on "IMG Code" for that picture (this will copy the photo info)
4th - Open your Iceshanty "profile", then click on "forum profile information" and paste the address to the "I have my own picture" box and check that box. .
5th - Then click on the "change profile" button on the bottom right of that page.
Your avatar should now be displayed in all your posts. You can change your avatar at any time
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YOU CAN ALSO RESIZE ON PHOTOBUCKET. JUST HIT EDIT THEN GO TO RESIZE PUT IN 120
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YOU CAN ALSO RESIZE ON PHOTOBUCKET. JUST HIT EDIT THEN GO TO RESIZE PUT IN 120
I know how to do that, just can't get an AVATAR, I created a URL but still won't work! I sized it to 120, still no Avatar? I got it! Thanks!
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hey snagg iss the water down to 500????
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anyone know how south sandy is flowing?
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----- JACKET FOUND----
ALMOST FORGOT IF YOU LEFT YOUR JACKET AT THE BLACK HOLE I PUT IT ON A TREE ON THE TRAIL.... HOPE YA FIND IT BUDDY
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anyone know how south sandy is flowing?
Extremally low, could be steelies in some of the bigger pools you could get with floats very early in AM, might even be too low for that. NEED RAIN!!
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hey snagg iss the water down to 500????
Haven' looked, but it's supposed too be! Last nights downpours didn't help Orwell, it's very low!
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IS THE WATER TO LOW TO FLOAT A CANOE DOWN FROM RT3 TOWARDS GOOSE POND?
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IS THE WATER TO LOW TO FLOAT A CANOE DOWN FROM RT3 TOWARDS GOOSE POND?
South Sandy your talking about not North Sandy!you could still do that, the estuary height is controlled mostly by the height of Lake Ontario. If there was an East wind it would be lower! I'm not too famillar with those estuaries! Good luck, hope this helps!
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understand it is the statewide reg 4/1 - 9/30 does attempt to protect naturally spawning fish on both ends for most streams in the state.
Beyond that there are a lot of regional/water/county regs that make accomodations to certain species (bows, browns, salmon) depending on the viability of the fishery. We all know some actual spawning and natural reporoduction occurs in the tributary waters of the great and finger lakes, but by and large these are put/grow/take waters and protecting these fish during a spawn that does not have a lot of natural return is not in the best interest of the angler or the state's/municipalities' coffers.
To add to your good info, the state did a study back in the 80's on little sandy creek! They closed the creek for a couple of years to all fishing in an attempt to bring back Atlantic's, it failed miserably, but during that study the DEC found NO MORE SPRING OF THE YEAR NATURALLY REPRODUCED STEELHEAD in any of the pools that they Seine netted! So they( DEC) came to the conclusion that you only need a handful of adults to meet the needs of a pretty good size stream like little sandy. And believe me, back in the 80's just about every steelhead got ripped out of there! Catch and release has very little if not no impact on natural reproduction on the Finger or Great Lakes Tributaries! It does however extend good fishing for other anglers, being that they are not harvested so rapidlly! Also more fish returning to the Lake, good for the Charter industry! But the C & R guys better be careful, The Big Lake could some day come to a tipping point if not enough fish are harvested! Can't have the lake get too healthy and run out of Baitfish again. Just practicing my computer skills, thought this was interesting and controversal topic!
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Hey SNAGGER, I like all the pics you've been posting! :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
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YEA me forgot too. have to use direct link
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Hey SNAGGER, I like all the pics you've been posting! :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
When are you and the " mooseman" making your pilgrimage up here?
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When are you and the " mooseman" making your pilgrimage up here?
I was planning on coming up tomorrow night, but it looks like I'm going to have to work all weekend >:( but i will be up soon!
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HEY SNAGGER, WHEN are you going to post some of your saltwater pics?
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HEY SNAGGER, WHEN are you going to post some of your saltwater pics?
Got none stored on a digital camera, I'm learning as fast as I can. Think you need a scanner for old ones!
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Got none stored on a digital camera, I'm learning as fast as I can. Think you need a scanner for old ones!
I might have an old scanner around here but I'm not sure if it would work on your PC
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BIG COLD FRONT BLASTING THROUGH the area high winds and some rain! Must be alot of leaves in the River !Looks like that big storm in Missouri is going to clip us Tomorrow-tomorrow night too! We need the RAIN!!!
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Got none stored on a digital camera, I'm learning as fast as I can. Think you need a scanner for old ones!
I gave you a scanner with the computer. It is a scanner/ printer. If you still have just hook it up and your ready to go. It works well. Got my walleye rods ready !
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Slow day for me today. I landed one 3 -4 lb steelhead landed around the trestle area. Went to Oswego after that for a couple of hours.
Heading out for Oneida walleyes in a couple minutes.
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Slow day for me today. I landed one 3 -4 lb steelhead landed around the trestle area. Went to Oswego after that for a couple of hours.
Heading out for Oneida walleyes in a couple minutes.
Could be good night at Oneida, west winds here 20-40mph, looks really DARK to the north right now, heard thunder! (https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi772.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy10%2FSNAGGER69SHANE%2F1134.jpg&hash=7700792f4a5cd1f5e2de3e7224686f30)
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Thursday October 22nd fishing Report: Heard that there was good numbers caught in the rollers in pulaski today! Also cleaned more fish today, mostly salmon from this end of the River. 3 of them were still skeined up, also heard the steelies were pretty shellshocked from all the boat traffic at our end in this low water! We had a couple downpours last night, now this rain and a possible big storm tomorrow night. That should raise the creeks and hopefully eventually raise the river back to atleast 750cfs next week! COME ON RAIN!!
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Good luck tomorrow in the low water!
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???hey snagger ,still on,did you hear from lehigh valley, wonder if he is still coming up on the 6th pics are cool man cant wait to get there , especially to bust them yankee boys bring em on well get the broom ready PHILLS IN 4
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oh yea, forgot to ask,,,hear anything about maxwell creek
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oh yea, forgot to ask,,,hear anything about maxwell creek
Tomorrow nights rain should bring a run of Salmon/leaves and a few browns by Sunday-Monday, next rain for full force brown run Probably!
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Tomorrow nights rain should bring a run of Salmon/leaves and a few browns by Sunday-Monday, next rain for full force brown run Probably!
just talked to luke yesterday said HI he'll be up on the 7th to stay with us
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just talked to luke yesterday said HI he'll be up on the 7th to stay with us
Hey I went and looked at Stonie's website, after you told me about it, it was the Bomb! Great stuff, he's a good guy!!!
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did you see the video of the guy that did the backflip off the town bridge you got to see this idiot
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did you see the video of the guy that did the backflip off the town bridge you got to see this idiot
Back in the 80's I did a 1 1/2 off of it! Growing up in the gorges of the finger lakes, I used to do alot of high diving and jumping!
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well goin to watch the yankees beat up the angels see ya tomorrow PEACE
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Hay snagger when I come up tomorrow I will look at the scanner that wiredstone is talking about. I hope you still have it? And I will be up the first weekend of November
Lets Go Phillies :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
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Hay snagger when I come up tomorrow I will look at the scanner that wiredstone is talking about. I hope you still have it? And I will be up the first weekend of November
Lets Go Phillies :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
I still got it! OH BOY THE STEELHEAD ARE IN TROUBLE NOW! How did you like the Radars? Angels up 4-0
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Hay Bobber Down, I havent seen any corn being cut yeat but I will let you know ;)
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thanx lehigh r u going too bee up on the 31st and the first
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It looks good Snagger I just hope its not to windy Saturday. :-\
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Im not going up that weekend. I will be there for the first weekend then maby a brake till Thanksgiving.
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SNAGGER where did your avatar go? YOUR RAIN IS COMING!!!! Have a great day everybody!!--KP :)
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I still got it! OH BOY THE STEELHEAD ARE IN TROUBLE NOW! How did you like the Radars? Angels up 4-0
YANKEES WON"T GIVE IT UP THAT EASY!!! " LET'S GO YANKEES!!!!"--KP ;D
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Just got back from a drive! ALL the creeks came up, and the bigger ones are a fisherman's nightmare with leaves! They didn't come up much, but a good primer for hopefully some good rains tonight! That storm doesn't look as impressive as it did yesterday! Hopefully we get some STATEWIDE rain, yesterdays was mostly Lake Effect in our area! Oh by the way, the dollars weak and the price of commodities like oil are getting stupid again! Have fun out there boys!! (https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi772.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy10%2FSNAGGER69SHANE%2F2nd.jpg&hash=b8224c96c9f52bce03c91f7e9e7eabfd)
See that dry slot on the water vapor image, storms getting stretched out, not good for Rain production. Storm got caught up in the jet stream too, moving much faster!
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YANKEES WON"T GIVE IT UP THAT EASY!!! " LET'S GO YANKEES!!!!"--KP ;D
What a great game, First post season game I got to watch!
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Ill be up in a couple of weeks Snagger, I cant wait to get back there! Tell Lambaste Em ill be ready to roll! :flex: ;D
I havent even got into a treestand yet cause i cant get my mind off fishing!
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Ill be up in a couple of weeks Snagger, I cant wait to get back there! Tell Lambaste Em ill be ready to roll! :flex: ;D
I havent even got into a treestand yet cause i cant get my mind off fishing!
Hopefully the snow holds off this year! Steelies in the daylight and waldo's in the dark. YEE HAW!! I'm not allowed to say anything or I'll get beat up, but waldo's is HOT right now!! Heres a picture of the W. Virginia crew from Tuesday! (https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi772.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy10%2FSNAGGER69SHANE%2Fsalmon09045.jpg&hash=0dd92d1202ce9cbebffa2c4be13b1853)
Those are leaf pieces on the fish, besides the monster 28 lb male on the left, not a mark on any of them salmon! Good job boys!
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NICCCCEEEE!!!
Im going crazy sitting here at work!! :wacko: :wacko:
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Just got back from a drive! ALL the creeks came up, and the bigger ones are a fisherman's nightmare with leaves! They didn't come up much, but a good primer for hopefully some good rains tonight! That storm doesn't look as impressive as it did yesterday! Hopefully we get some STATEWIDE rain, yesterdays was mostly Lake Effect in our area! Oh by the way, the dollars weak and the price of commodities like oil are getting stupid again! Have fun out there boys!! (https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi772.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy10%2FSNAGGER69SHANE%2F2nd.jpg&hash=b8224c96c9f52bce03c91f7e9e7eabfd)
See that dry slot on the water vapor image, storms getting stretched out, not good for Rain production. Storm got caught up in the jet stream too, moving much faster!
SNAGGER, Your weather predictions are far better that the local weatherman at the local t.v. channels. I think Wayne Maher's job is in jeopardy!!!! Good calls Pal!!! ;D
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I'm a weather nut, I love it as much as fishing! Got it from my grandfather, he was a farmer!
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The things we have learned from our Grandfathers!! Drinking beer, chewing tobacco, hunting, fishing, playboy magazines.......... LOL!!! You know what I mean! FISH ON!!!--KP
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Hey stopped at the bridge in Altmar coming back from the store and seen 1 big brown being landed, a steelie being landed and another one on a fisherman's line jumping all over the place, I was there 30 seconds! Also went to Ellis only 10 cars in the parking lot, looked upstream and could only see a dozen guys fishing, no boats in sight! Thinned out good, must be everyone's down lower poking at them!!!!
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snag not sure if i want to get more eggs in the morning or come up there bro i'll figure it out tonight and let you know....you missed a good rodeo tho there was ropein' to be done .... anyways at 335fpm i might bring the flyrod and some nymphs along with egg patterns
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snag not sure if i want to get more eggs in the morning or come up there bro i'll figure it out tonight and let you know....you missed a good rodeo tho there was ropein' to be done .... anyways at 335fpm i might bring the flyrod and some nymphs along with egg patterns
I didn't know you were a Cowboy, what;s ropein em mean? :wacko:
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Just cleaned 2 silver bullets from down below. Got BSing with the guys! They were using the bead rig under a float in pocket water! I showed them what a dead egg out of a salmon looks like, they are going to take a marker and paint an orange dot on one side of there fainted yellowish beads. Should knock there socks off later today! Hey jimmy cleaned a Beautiful 12lb hook jawed monster brown yesterday with perfect red and orange spots on it, but my Camera is down! you would have loved it!
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Tlkin about the weather...my old man used to watch it all day long..ppl think im weird cuz i can read a radar map and tell them whats gunna happen for the next two days....and be more on point than the big weathermen from the city! anyway me and my buddies were hopin to be up this weekend...but i had a death in the wifes family so im out...maybe next week!
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Tlkin about the weather...my old man used to watch it all day long..ppl think im weird cuz i can read a radar map and tell them whats gunna happen for the next two days....and be more on point than the big weathermen from the city! anyway me and my buddies were hopin to be up this weekend...but i had a death in the wifes family so im out...maybe next week!
Sorry about your personal issues, hope you do good!!! Go team MIRC!
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hey snag didnt get your message in time to talk to l.v. maybe he will be on tonite
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hey larry's salmon shop in oswego has those beads! i bought some ....i'm ready for some flyrod action up there and i got a feeling a brown bead head stone fly would kick them in the butt.....on oswego a yellow stone fly ...i don't know why but they work great there and i have fliped a many a rock over and never found one! if the stone don't work i'll try a egg pattern but if it's like years past that nymph should be on ;D
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doober our prayers are with you and your wifes family
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Anybody ready for winter? Mr. Randolph in action! Bring on the Snow & Cold!!
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Anybody ready for winter? Mr. Randolph in action! Bring on the Snow & Cold!!
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YUP, Give me 4-6' of snow and 25 degrees!!!!!!!!!!! Then the real finatics are there!!!!!
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Here's a nice 19lber that came in at dark! One of my guests who didn't get into town til 3pm said he went 8 for 26 in 2 hours in the rollers down in pulaski! I heard from other friends as well that had HUGE hook up numbers in(https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi772.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy10%2FSNAGGER69SHANE%2FIMG_0388.jpg&hash=eff26bd469d15a1d9d545e6dd988fc7a) town. This is a MAJOR PUSH of steelies that went through today. Great news for the weekend guys! Good luck everybody!
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MORE STEEL FROM TODAY'S GREAT RUN!!!
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Thanks SNAGGER
Can't wait to see my pic on the wall above that Black Salamander STEEL !!!!!
Accepting all challenges...bring it on you know who you are...... 8)
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Thanks SNAGGER
Can't wait to see my pic on the wall above that Black Salamander STEEL !!!!!
Accepting all challenges...bring it on you know who you are...... 8)
MORE REPORTS FROM FRIENDS JUST KEEP COMING IN ABOUT TODAY'S STEELHEAD RUN At the LB & Staircase I'M MISSING EVERYTHING, all the waldo's at Oneida and now this! Darn fish cleaning! I'm dieing!!! I Can't take it anymore! I got to get off this computer, close up shop and go fishing!!! Found some more steel from a few years ago No. 1 Liner!
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BUNKER KILLER IN ACTION!!
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Totally using that eggs sac belt Idea I see in the that pic, pink eggs the only way!
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Totally using that eggs sac belt Idea I see in the that pic, pink eggs the only way!
Velcro is great for carrying extra bait! :w00t: Pink has always been my favorite color!
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Look at this Character No. 1 Liner!
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Forgot to say earlier how clean and fresh the salmon I've been cleaning latelly! Got hammered with high winds and decent rains, anyone thinking of hitting the big Sandies Saturday will probably find high off colored water conditions with 8,000 pounds of leaves flowing down the creeks! Our creeks should help raise the salmon River down lower by days end, we all know what that will mean!!! ;D Could be a sunday bonanza!!!
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Great pics ! We are having salmon for dinner tonight. :thumbup_smilie:
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Velcro is great for carrying extra bait! :w00t: Pink has always been my favorite color!
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Look at this Character No. 1 Liner!
Lambaste EM' hasn't fished the same since he lost those glasses (from th early 80's) 8) :laugh:
Heard he got pretty beat up in altmar up by the bridge 0/0
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HEY SNAGGER, GREAT pics you can always count on Lambaste EM to have some bait hanging around! I think that was his pole i was holding in that pic?
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Here comes some more rain, we got a decent amount last night, especially north of here!
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SNAGGER, WHO IS THIS #2 LINER GUY ANYWAYS!!!! LOL!! ;D--KP Great pics by the way!!
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SNAGGER, WHO IS THIS #2 LINER GUY ANYWAYS!!!! LOL!! ;D--KP Great pics by the way!!
:rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: Cschmitty, he fishes with alot of the same people I know, he's a good guy!!! Great 19lber he got!!
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I see you figured out the picture thing Snagger. I bet I can guess where that Steelhead and falls shot came from.
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You were less than sober then!
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You were less than sober then!
We used to fill Hefty bags with beer cans down in the gorge in those days!!! Great times at the "Glory" hole! Half to try and get over there again soon! Hey I seen a picture of you over on Oswego thread! Kill some deer buddy! catch ya later!!
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We used to fill Hefty bags with beer cans down in the gorge in those days!!! Great times at the "Glory" hole! Half to try and get over there again soon! Hey I seen a picture of you over on Oswego thread! Kill some deer buddy! catch ya later!!
I just saw the pic that Black Albatraz is talking about, I was wondering if the finger your holding up in it is the one you got the hook buried in a few weeks ago?
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I just saw the pic that Black Albatraz is talking about, I was wondering if the finger your holding up in it is the one you got the hook buried in a few weeks ago?
YEAH, I think SNAGGER wanted to show us his BANDAID!!!!! :w00t:
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how was the action on the salmon river today????
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how was the action on the salmon river today????
We didn't make it out because of rain!! We don't need KP jr. sick. I left you a PM trap!!! Have a GREAT NIGHT EVERYBODY!!!--KP :)
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how was the action on the salmon river today????
I cleaned as many steelies as Salmon, good day for everybody I knew. It got kind of unusually crowed in Altmar, but it's been unusually crowded on the upper River since last couple days of September for some reason this year. Everything runs in trends on this River! Last run of the year for Salmon should be in Trout & Orwell today! Could be a good day to check the Big Sandies for steel and last of the Salmon too Today! I'm tired and wet from walleye, good night! I'll be looking hard for another 20 now CShmitty, been a few years for me!!
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Just had to put another shot of my buddy CSchmitty with his 19lber up to keep everyone pumped!
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A little Genesee River Steel!!!!
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A little Genesee River Steel!!!!
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GREAT pic SNAGGER, was that from the trip we were on together?
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Lambaste EM' hasn't fished the same since he lost those glasses (from th early 80's) 8) :laugh:
Heard he got pretty beat up in altmar up by the bridge 0/0
hey smitty after seeing your fingers and quick measurements your 19 pounder looks more like a 14 pounder :w00t: after the beating you took yesterday @ the ballpark even after i let you have my spot you need to hold out every fish you catch :o
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fished the salmon today....one small rainbow from sportsman hole had on decent steelie on in altmar (school house) simpple hooked a salmon so pretty slow day except the bs session at snags house oh we did find someones glasses on the road so if you lost your glasses in altmar PM me.........snag thanks for the waldos
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went with my son today and hooked up with 5 landed 1. My son landed the one caught. His 1st steelie caught on the Salmon River!! Quite the grin on his face right about now ;D--KP
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Went up Sat. Not much going on. Fished from Pineville to Trout Brook and back. Nothing. Saw a big stringer of fish at Ellis Cove. We went up to the upper fly zone and caught some small browns. Hooked several crusty and a few good salmon. No Steelheads up that way that we saw. Will be back later inthe year. Gotta deer hunt now.
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Whats goin on up in Altmar Outlaw land? Hows the steelie action, gona have to get up there sumtime this week!
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hey smitty after seeing your fingers and quick measurements your 19 pounder looks more like a 14 pounder :w00t: after the beating you took yesterday @ the ballpark even after i let you have my spot you need to hold out every fish you catch :o
A guy gets his first steelhead of the year on oct24 and only landed one and he can blast me for a little photo fun.....please......just stick to cleaning my fish :o 8)
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went with my son today and hooked up with 5 landed 1. My son landed the one caught. His 1st steelie caught on the Salmon River!! Quite the grin on his face right about now ;D--KP
GREAT JOB MAN!!! I still remember my first steelhead, I also caught it at the tail end of Salmon Season KingPerch, out of the Sportsman's pool! Hit my pink egg sac netting I was using to try to lift a salmon with! There's a big suprize! :w00t: It kind of was actually! Still went back to lifting salmon though. But that battle it gave me, kept me coming back all that winter. Think it was around 1980, not sure, I know the hatchery wasn't built yet in Altmar, still had the wier in Pulaski! NOW HE'S HOOKED!! He'll have you bringing him up here every week now Larry! ;D
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I heard from friends and a few guests that it was another Spectacular day on the River Sunday for STEEL! Whether you were down river or up River! There not hitting like crazy, like that BONANZA right after the 1150 drop to 750 days, but if you put your time in, you still did very good in this low water!
Can't have a report without a photo, remember this day LV, what a blast that day was! nice 16lber!
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Back before the River changed!
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Whats goin on up in Altmar Outlaw land? Hows the steelie action, gona have to get up there sumtime this week!
Steelies and red bar coho's in the daytime, waldo's at night! Life is good! ;D
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We used to fill Hefty bags with beer cans down in the gorge in those days!!! Great times at the "Glory" hole! Half to try and get over there again soon! Hey I seen a picture of you over on Oswego thread! Kill some deer buddy! catch ya later!!
Huh? I will have to check it out. I have not been over that way for awhile. Boy we sure got soaked down in that gorge.
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....hey shane! the yankmee fans are killing me here at work. Need to go fishing sooooon!
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....hey shane! the yankmee fans are killing me here at work. Need to go fishing sooooon!
Ya I know I left biting waldo's to come home.,so Dave could watch the end of the game! I wanted to throw up when that pitcher lobbed that ball over the first basemen's head! I left walleye fishing for that, could have pulled out a tape of bad news bears! >:(
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Huh? I will have to check it out. I have not been over that way for awhile. Boy we sure got soaked down in that gorge.
Here's a picture of us down there in the upper corner!
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Remember that great aroma of that rotting pile of Salmon the russians were leaving in the corner! :w00t:
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Yea that second trip was pretty nasty! But I caught a really nice steelhead that morning in the main current on brown eggs and a float. I checked the oswego post was that Rob taking the pictures?
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Yea that second trip was pretty nasty! But I caught a really nice steelhead that morning in the main current on brown eggs and a float. I checked the oswego post was that Rob taking the pictures?
Ya, I got piles of pictures from the Genee, but none are digital. going to half to scan them! Don't have time to figure that out yet! SOON!!!!!!!!
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they still running at 335???? after 3 or 4 days fish should be getting use to it,i think i'll be there tomorrow start at sportsman hole
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.....shane, your v-machine is still messed up.
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they still running at 335???? after 3 or 4 days fish should be getting use to it,i think i'll be there tomorrow start at sportsman hole
Hey Trapper! Josh and I saw you crossing the bridge by SNAGGERS yesterday. I tried to wave you down, but couldn't get your attention!! The boy and I hooked up with 5 steelies and landed a nice one!! That boy is still grinning ear to ear!! That's his first Salmon River fish!!! What a great day Of fishing!!! As soon as I figure out the photobook upload again, I'll post his picture!! TIGHTLINES TO ALL!!!!--KP :)
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Hay Lambastum, How was your jambalaya Saturday after noon tasted pretty good didn't it. Oh by the way I forgot to tell you a put an onion the size of a softball in it. I figured if you didn't ask I wasn't going to say anything because I new if you tried it you would like it. Wheres the 20? See you in 2 weeks
Lets Go Phillies :flex: :clapping: :bowdown: :rotflol: :thumbup_smilie:
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they still running at 335???? after 3 or 4 days fish should be getting use to it,i think i'll be there tomorrow start at sportsman hole
Ya there getting used to it, hiding is more like it. everyone I've talked to today is having trouble getting any to bite in easy to access area's! All the one's down river have been hooked and all the ones up here have been run over by boats, needs some New water, getting a little stail if you know what I mean! Might half to go to plan B trapper! What's up LV, you educated too many over the Weekend! :w00t:
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.....shane, your v-machine is still messed up.
Ya I know, be fixed in a few days!
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Here's a picture of us down there in the upper corner!
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Remember that great aroma of that rotting pile of Salmon the russians were leaving in the corner! :w00t:
I remember someone evicting the Russians when I was there. ;D ;D
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Sorry about that Snagger maby next trip will take a longer lunch brake. As soon as I got home I made up a big piece for dinner it was very good. Save a couple waldos for me if you can till next trip. ;)
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LET'S GO YANKEES!!!!! ;D
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I remember someone evicting the Russians when I was there. ;D ;D
Ya but we didn't throw the next group of guys out, did we? :afro: They weren't playin with their bullhead rigs!! Still got that 5/0 treble I pulled out the steelheads back from the local Ruskies over there! Hey LV, you forgot to remind me about the waldo', so I gave them to trap and Pete! Dave just got back, him and Pete smashed them again, beads/floats and bottom bouncing around where you were LV. I guess it just comes down to Experience and the spots! Still wish the water would go back up, then back down though!
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Oswego Snagger, I was up in the lower end of the Salmon River today and I didn't get anything so I went to the Oswego.
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hey snag you there? saw the pic of LV what a great lookin fish I will send you a PM if I can figure out how if not I will talk to U on the phone or right here you let me know
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Oswego Snagger, I was up in the lower end of the Salmon River today and I didn't get anything so I went to the Oswego.
Wow water looks great, great fish!!!! Everybody on another forum said it was too high and people were drowning yada, yada ect........ Glad you did good, I think I got your Flu, just talked to trap, he's at Oneida, thinking of sneeking down! catch ya later!!
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Well I hope you didn't get sick from me... :blink: :w00t: As for the water being high it is, you have to be smart about it..We could fish it and cross it without issue but the out of state guy should stay on shore. I seen two twenty somethings, trying to cross with no felt or corkers on there feet and they where..lets just say there was more water in there waders then in the river... :rotflol: :rotflol: To be honest I couldn't watch them,I thought that I was going to see a death! For a half dead Salmon..BTW..There is a huge run of fresh kings in the river!! There are no marks on these fish and there in one piece. I was two for three on the Steelies today.
No Browns blowing yet... :'( Should be soon!!
Steelhead! who said steelhead! I'll have some of that!! ;D ;D
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Ya but we didn't throw the next group of guys out, did we? :afro: They weren't playin with their bullhead rigs!! Still got that 5/0 treble I pulled out the steelheads back from the local Ruskies over there! Hey LV, you forgot to remind me about the waldo', so I gave them to trap and Pete! Dave just got back, him and Pete smashed them again, beads/floats and bottom bouncing around where you were LV. I guess it just comes down to Experience and the spots! Still wish the water would go back up, then back down though!
I'm sure I sill have it, its big enough to snag a shark!
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Im sure you will be getting some more till i come back. Just save me a few. ;)
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Snagger I forgot all about the Russians with the big trebles. They were a brutal bunch. Kind of went along with that inner city thing.
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Snagger I forgot all about the Russians with the big trebles. They were a brutal bunch. Kind of went along with that inner city thing.
Nice Buck Wayno!!!
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Now that you got your big buck out of the way, I know a spot that was ROCKING yesterday and will be good again after the next rainfall, keep in touch bro!
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You should post that buck picture on My Hunting Forum. I bet the guys on there would like to see it..
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Hey Black Albatraz, Nice buck it looks just like the one my son took down over the weekend with my car!!!! Yours is in better shape than that one though, and I don't even want to discuss the car yet!!!
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did you double up that day cause i see legs still in the trailer. that buck looks heavy. congrats
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heading up for the afternoon run snag think i'm going to drift some crawlers :) maybe mr brown would be interested ,although i have nailed a lot of steelies on a crawler
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Oswego Snagger, I was up in the lower end of the Salmon River today and I didn't get anything so I went to the Oswego.
SimpleCarppie - I was just above you yesterday. Ended up with a brown and a steelie. Thanks for netting a few for me.
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Good job Tank!
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Anytime Tank! I was up today and take a look at the S/R Pic post I started you'll see what I did there..
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I was just talking to a friend from high school and he was trying to get me to sign up for face book, says it's alot of fun BSing about old days and stuff! I told him I didn't need it, us fisherman and hunters have myfishfinder and iceshanty to BS on! :clapping: :w00t: STORM BREWING DOWN SOUTH!
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Hey Carpy keep in touch, could be a hot bite after this storm in a few places over here! Computer models are predicting this to go the east of us, hope not!
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I know, we need rain!! Oh I did some Recon on my Brownie spots..No real water no fish..I stopped at sterling again. There where some clean Salmon but no Trout YET..They are just starting to blow loose in the Oswego this week. I guess there was a good push of Browns in the Oak Friday and Saturday and the Browns where blowing eggs,they droppped the water on Sunday and the fish where gone.. This info I got today,I didn't fish there myself.
Frank
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Just had 4 guys roll into town at daybreak from NJ. they hit 8 in Altmar, then drove to pulaski and hooked another 9 steelies! Not bad considering it's only 1pm! Looks like a great day so far for them. Hard part is going to get them into walleye tonight! :w00t: THANKS FOR THE BROWNIE INFO CARPY!
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Walleyes, the other white meat... :flex: :flex: :flex:
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Can't wait to whoop snagger's butt again tonight!!! :flex: :flex: :flex:
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Can't wait to whoop snagger's butt again tonight!!! :flex: :flex: :flex:
GO GET 'EM LAMBAST EM!! Sounds as though your schooling SNAGGER again in the CAGE MATCH!!! ;D--KP
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Nice Buck Wayno!!!
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Now that you got your big buck out of the way, I know a spot that was ROCKING yesterday and will be good again after the next rainfall, keep in touch bro!
hey wayno nice buck you the man
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Can't wait to whoop snagger's butt again tonight!!! :flex: :flex: :flex:
:clapping: :clapping: :clapping:Go team DaveWhere do I place my bet!
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Hey Carpy keep in touch, could be a hot bite after this storm in a few places over here! Computer models are predicting this to go the east of us, hope not!
Half inch of rain by 12pm tomorrow! Can you say Brownies!! and not the hash kind either... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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1/2 INCH OF RAIN = MORE SOUTH SANDY STEELHEADS!!!!
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Maybe Thrusday Morning if I fish, South Sandy?? Never Been!! Don't ask me why.. :cookoo: :blink: :cookoo:
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this is a real brave group of guys here...lol..enjoy.. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY0krfP9btE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY0krfP9btE)
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wow you can almost see the size of that idiots balls in his waders
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More funny stuff on youtube I found...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8U58SqO7u0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8U58SqO7u0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BBzpLEjAr8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BBzpLEjAr8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnf-M-iOB-M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnf-M-iOB-M)
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Hey Black Albatraz, Nice buck it looks just like the one my son took down over the weekend with my car!!!! Yours is in better shape than that one though, and I don't even want to discuss the car yet!!!
Thanks Man !
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fished the sportsmen pool had it almost tto my self 2 chromers on one made it to the net both on blue eggs sacs i should have tossed a stone fly i know it!
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this is a real brave group of guys here...lol..enjoy.. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY0krfP9btE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY0krfP9btE)
That didn't look like 1993, funny stuff!!! :w00t:
Looks like most of the rain heading East, got cheated again. Western NY really getting cheated! Hopefully that dry slot will fill in!
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Need to get that Big Res. full again, 335cfs is getting old!
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Short, but decent moderate rains up in the watershed for the Sandies and the Big Res.!
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it's pouring here!!!! i really don't want more water in oswego, and i don't mind salmon river at 335 for steelies but the tribs will be going up for sure
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GOOD MORNING TRAPPER!!!!! THIS RAIN SUCKS!!!! Came in to grab a sandwich, check out the best site on MFF, and go get wet again!! Have a great day to everyone!!--KP :)
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I think I am going back to the Oswego in the Am! but if its to high Fishing for Browns Snagger..The Streams should pop by Friday with all this rain!!
I dropped my Camera in the drink this morning.. :cursing: :cursing:
Here is the only picture I got today
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WHERE IS TRAPPER?????? ::)
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Staying dry I hope... ;D ;D
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Just looked in my bucket and we got over an inch of rain! From the looks of the Radars put another 1/2 inch on top of that up on the Tug Hill! Heading up to the Redfield Res. right now to check it!
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My rain gage just hit the the 2 inch mark and its still pouring.
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Just got back from the Big Res. and WOW have they drawned that down, a good 7-8 feet, stumps are showing everywhere! good thing we got this rain, the Res. is going to need every drop of it to get it back to only 4 feet down from the spill gates! Don't see how there's going to be any water increases from this rain! Unless they want it down for a reason! Got me confused!
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My rain gage just hit the the 2 inch mark and its still pouring.
You guys out east always get pounded, you must get 10 inches a year more out there than say a city like Rochester!
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finally slowed down here i'm bettingg south sandy will be good after the water clears.snagger waldos tonight????
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finally slowed down here i'm bettingg south sandy will be good after the water clears.snagger waldos tonight????
I'm pretty sick, maybe waldo's tonight. I'll call ya! Modestly high water and leaves tomorrow on the Big Sandies, should clear by afternoon. Friday is the day! Saturday too, but with nice weather, will be crowded! BOBBER DOWN!!!! :w00t:
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A little slower day today for steelies with the rain and cloud cover for the guys staying here! With that said, there was a short midday window, when the guys did good when it got brighter out that reminded me of winter mid day bites! ;D
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hey snag got your message cool with that gettin close I can smell the rottin salmon and the russians meat and potato vodka out on the grill
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....trying to post pics
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Awesome photo. Colorful fish.
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nice fish but the pic is really good shows unbelievable detail, can even see the water drops under it
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Heres some steelhead for you CSchmitty( No. 1 Liner) I land alot more when I can leave the fillet station!!!! :w00t:
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Awesome photo. Colorful fish.
that really is a nice fish, and an amazing photo, so much detail in it
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How big is this one CSchmitty, ALOT bigger than 19lbs!!!
....either that or you have long freakin arms!!!! Great fish!
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....either that or you have long freakin arms!!!! Great fish!
or both, i have no idea, still a great fish
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Heres some steelhead for you CSchmitty( No. 1 Liner) I land alot more when I can leave the fillet station!!!! :w00t:
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I'm going to have to scan and post some of those 50# stripper pictures of you i have. at least they look like 50pounds the way you held them!Those fish have a bigger girth than you do Dave
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Heres some steelhead for you CSchmitty( No. 1 Liner) I land alot more when I can leave the fillet station!!!! :w00t:
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WOW!!!
I counted the spots thats an 11lb and 9lb good job though, 2 sweet so you're up to three keep up the good work
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WOW!!!
I counted the spots thats an 11lb and 9lb good job though, 2 sweet so you're up to three keep up the good work
you better do a recount your not even close!!!!!!! over 23 lbs :o
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you better do a recount your not even close!!!!!!! over 23 lbs :o
when where call me at home! snagger has the #
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Heres some steelhead for you CSchmitty( No. 1 Liner) I land alot more when I can leave the fillet station!!!! :w00t:
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Kendra say wow they're as big as you! :laugh:
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sno fenced ;) ;D ;D ;D
amazing fish man
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After midnight and all the Trib. gauges are still rising rapidly! Maybe we will put some water in the Big Res. after all! We'll see! Should be a refreshing push of Steelhead once this colored water reaches the port! Alot of Great days ahead of us now boys!!!! :w00t: IT'S ON NOW!!! those were just practice fish to get the rust out of the steelhead rod's!! ;D
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Hey Mayor found a great shot of you and the dog playing stick at the Ballpark!
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Stop in and say hi sometime!
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why does south sandy creek keep ringing in my ears :) snag ya think this week end? i'm going to go bang some perch today
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Trib gauges are falling off the planet now!! So much for filling the Res. Pretty grey and gloomy out there, hope everyone has a great day, got guys everywhere today, should get good( accurate) reports! Hey Trapper give me a call! Sandies are rockin already!!! Headin to Oneida to get my boat wish I was at the Sandies!
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Snagger,
I have news for you..Check your PM from me..
Frank
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Snagger,
I have news for you..Check your PM from me..
Frank
I did, THANKS!!!
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Hey Mayor, I figure since there is already a pic of you here today, i might as well post some of the more recent ones i have, next time you and Murry have to take some pictures of me
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GREAT SHOTS BUNKER!!!! Remember that one time me, you, moose and his brother in law were at that last spot a few years back, that's how good it is NOW!!!
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snag hook us up with lambaste em when we get there we have something special for him and the other guys to bad you dont drink no more you would really like this stuff
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:o :o :o :o oh yea---AWSOME FISH he got #2 TONITE back home sat-sun ITS ALL OVER!!!!!!!
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Phillies All The Way :bowdown: :bowdown: Yanks suck d__k :'( :'(
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GREAT SHOTS BUNKER!!!! Remember that one time me, you, moose and his brother in law were at that last spot a few years back, that's how good it is NOW!!!
I know,I know it is!!! ;) ;) ;) ;D
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Must be nobody fishing the Salmon river anymore..I should head up... :D
Or head west young man..wink wink.. ::)
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Heres some steelhead for you CSchmitty( No. 1 Liner) I land alot more when I can leave the fillet station!!!! :w00t:
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AWSOME FISH Lambaste em, Snagger and CSchmitty!!! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: Ill be up tuesday morning! I cant freaking wait!!!!
This is going to be the longest weekend at work EVER!!
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Must be nobody fishing the Salmon river anymore..I should head up... :D
Or head west young man..wink wink.. ::)
Seems like everybody is getting quiet again about spots, God there's fish EVERYWHERE, so many good spots, don't know where to send people first! I mean vetran's, if your new to the sport it can get frustrating at times! But this is the BEST I've seen it in YEARS for certain guests! good luck out there!
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This time of year drives me crazy... Should I go in my tree stand or go walleye fishing, But steelehead are on fire. Im going insane trying to do it all.
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This time of year drives me crazy... Should I go in my tree stand or go walleye fishing, But steelehead are on fire. Im going insane trying to do it all.
You might be single like me after this fall, see you at Oneida tonight, going to work for them again! Big South winds! Steelies EVERY WHERE!!!
MONSTER FRONT COMING!!
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Hey Mayor, Just came across a few more shots, figured i would show them off.
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ok, i might get up this weekend if im lucky, whats working well? seems like the steelies are on fire, but any spot working best (esp. if you can fish it from shore/hip waders, still haven't replaced old ripped waders)
thanks
fishman
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Phillies All The Way :bowdown: :bowdown: Yanks suck d__k :'( :'(
The PA thread is that way. ::) Phillies got smacked up last nite :flex: The YANKEES are the shiznit!
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Thanks for the pm the other day about the alternative tribs. We went there yesterday and had a great day. There were so many fresh steelhead there that I started messing around with beads of different sizes and colors. They definately liked the 10 mm ones best. (Don't usually use beads-maybe a confidence thing)
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The PA thread is that way. ::) Phillies got smacked up last nite :flex: The YANKEES are the shiznit!
GO YANKEES!!!! WHERE IS PHILLY ANYWAY?? ??? What's up DEADEYEZ??? HAPPY B'DAY!!--KP
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hey SNAGGER, what do you think about those fish THE MAYOR caught? Can you believe he caught those wearing Orvis waders? I wonder if he drove his Lexus that day to? :nono: :nono:
OH NO,LOOK AT THE FISHING POLE HE'S USING!!!!!!!
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I had too, a good pair of Browns!!!!
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hey SNAGGER, what do you think about those fish THE MAYOR caught? Can you believe he caught those wearing Orvis waders? I wonder if he drove his Lexus that day to? :nono: :nono: OH NO,LOOK AT THE FISHING POLE HE'S USING!!!!!!!
Got to love those Billy Pate's, hey nice browns Carpy! Everybody here today did good everywhere they went that I talked too! Still wish the River would go up a little though!
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Heres one of many landed this morning to keep people pumped up, nobody around and double digit hook ups. Doesn't get any better than that!! Good pic LV!
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What a Hog!!!
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nice fish Rob :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
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I just noticed something, hey LV that aint no phillies hat on your head! ;D
Here's some South sandy Steel from this afternoon!!!!
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I just noticed something, hey LV that aint no phillies hat on your head! ;D
Here's some South sandy Steel from this afternoon!!!!
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you mean nobody else was there??? your killing me
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when where call me at home! snagger has the #
:o :o :oyou have to fish more than 1 spot!!!LOL
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:o :o :oyou have to fish more than 1 spot!!!LOL
Hey Markie, where you been hiding? Got some waldo samiches tonight! ;D
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hey we have to go this week!!! i got the attachment it works!!!
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hey we have to go this week!!! i got the attachment it works!!!
There are some other settings on there you can use too! I'll talk to you tomorrow!
FISH ON!!!!! FISH OFF!!!!!!
Just had to show one last Bloody Mess from Salmon Season, now that it's offically November 1st!
STEELHEAD SEASON!!!!
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TIL NEXT YEAR! ;D
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I was more of a camera man than a fisherman this weekend, but had a blast as usual. Had a lot of technical difficulties. Well it sounds like a good excuse to me.
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Chasing Rob around with a camera wore me out.
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There are some other settings on there you can use too! I'll talk to you tomorrow!
FISH ON!!!!! FISH OFF!!!!!!
Just had to show one last Bloody Mess from Salmon Season, now that it's offically November 1st!
STEELHEAD SEASON!!!!
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TIL NEXT YEAR! ;D
[/quoteHay SNAGGER, did you add that hard hat hanging over the freezer to the fish cleaning station after that salmon with the hook in it attacked you????
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That is funny ! :laugh:
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That is funny ! :laugh:
thanks, Looks like you and rob had a good day? Ive had to take his picture for him a few times myself, but hes not as bad as Murray!
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Saw him on the creek yesterday. Had fun catching up with my budddies on the river. Rob was about 10 fo 30 yesterday. Nice fresh fish in now too.
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Nice looking fish Rob, dosen't look like ya had alot of company.
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It was easy to find a open spot this weekend. Just be willing to walk a little.
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This my son Chris with a nice rainbow.
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Glad you guys enjoyed your 2 week window!! Salmon Season's over ,but it aint November yet, should get more crowded the next couple of weeks before it drops off again! Tribs went back up briefly last night, should help clear some more leaves and draw some more new fish in. Well almost WALDO time! catch ya later!!!
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I will definately be up for some steelhead action one day this week. Keep me posted snag... Maybe you can take me out one day.
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I will definately be up for some steelhead action one day this week. Keep me posted snag... Maybe you can take me out one day.
Ran into a buddy of mine who's a tackle distributer down to the Canal tonight who's got some new steelhead jigs for us to try this winter! Plus some great custom jigs for down there, will be getting them Wednesday!
Heres a photo I just found from a clambake back in 2005 of me, black Albatraz, Jeffrey Dahmmer, Lambaste em, and my good friend Barney( who passed away a couple of years ago, god rest his soul) We miss ya Barney!
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"THE CREW"
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AND SOME CHICKEN!!! "The Cooks"
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A series of Canadian cold fronts are coming for this week! After 2 cold nights and this coming for a better part of the week, river and especially creek temps will be on the drop! This should accelerate brown trout spawning and could make the slate steelhead in the Sandies drop back down into the meadows! float fisherman's dream! Hopefully we will receive some lake effect rains, but it could end up being snow on the Tug! which would further accelerate the water temp drops when it melts! Steelheading could get tricky later this week, if they don't give us any water! The Res. was pretty low, the last time I checked it! We'll see, plenty of chrome in the River, just not alot of movement recently! Good luck guys! ;D
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LETS GO YANKEES
LETS GO YANKEES
LETS GO YANKEEES
LETS GO YANKEES
LETS GO YAKNEES
LETS GO YANKEES
LETS GO YANKEES
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If the Red Sox still had "my man" Johnny Damen, your Yankees would be nowhere! That short porch in right field didn't hurt either!!! ;D The Phillies should have to surrender after 2 outs and 0 for 2 rally like that, discusting!! Yank's spent the day watching Cliff Lee tapes! He's going down and this from a guy who HATES the Yankee's!
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damon looks much better with a hair cut and shave not to mention he loves having a expense account :).... guess the yankees "made him a offer he couldn't refuse" :rotflol: :rotflol:
i even have to admit i was surprized he left the soxs after there accidental world series win! well now for game 6 and i still can't help being upset with the ref calling a strike when a batter wasn't even in postion!
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Fished the schoolhouse pool this morning..Still some Salmon kicking around there and in the coves. I never made it up to the Sandys yet..Need a guide... ;D I only seen two hooked both with clients with there Guides. ( Steelheads).. Yup she need more water no fresh fish..Seen a few skippers jumping out of the water and that was it for the Morning...
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Ran into a buddy of mine who's a tackle distributer down to the Canal tonight who's got some new steelhead jigs for us to try this winter! Plus some great custom jigs for down there, will be getting them Wednesday!
Heres a photo I just found from a clambake back in 2005 of me, black Albatraz, Jeffrey Dahmmer, Lambaste em, and my good friend Barney( who passed away a couple of years ago, god rest his soul) We miss ya Barney!
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"THE CREW" Geez Dahmer looks ten years younger in that photo.
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AND SOME CHICKEN!!! "The Cooks"
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damon looks much better with a hair cut and shave not to mention he loves having a expense account :).... guess the yankees "made him a offer he couldn't refuse" :rotflol: :rotflol:
i even have to admit i was surprized he left the soxs after there accidental world series win! well now for game 6 and i still can't help being upset with the ref calling a strike when a batter wasn't even in postion!
It's the owner Epstien, he doesn't get along with any of the players! Manny laid down because of that guy! Lowell was MVP and had to take a pay cut to stay with the Sox! Then let go Nixon! Need good management like the yankees! A miss the old Geico man running around the bases! ;D
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Well the Big Res is in rough shape, I hope we get some organised lake effect to pull us out of this one!
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Heres some lake effect brewing as I was coming back from the big Res. Saw 3 tom turkeys with like 10 inch beards running across the road while I was up there!
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Heres a pic of an angry Lower Res, and that aint rain, SNOWING LIKE HECK!
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Can't imagine what Oneida is going to look like!
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funny how they ran the water for a couple weeks strait at what, 1200? and now the res is that low. gotta love it
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funny how they ran the water for a couple weeks strait at what, 1200? and now the res is that low. gotta love it
It's down 6-7 feet, but 2 days of lake Effect could take care of that, but if we don't get lake effect in the watershed( which is actually just north of the Res.) and it hits just south of here, that Res. is in trouble! Can you image if we got snow on the ground like last year from the 16th on, it would be 185cfs this winter! She should be full by the end of the month, alot of weather yet too come before our snowpack stops water from getting into the ground! It is kind of insane though!
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Got a few shots of lake effect Graupel and rain mixed, but not much! 1/8 th of an inch tops! >:( Heard the River fishing was just average yesterday from friends and a few guests! Leaves and cloud cover probably had alot to do with it! Good luck out there!
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I have not been up to the river in so long its killing me... just average yesterday every wheres? O well got the winter to get them
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I have not been up to the river in so long its killing me... just average yesterday every wheres? O well got the winter to get them
LOW WATER, Heavy Boat traffic, leaves, educated fish, few new fish and nasty weather makes for a long day steelheading sometimes!! I'm sure there were small flurries or you fished mid river like the sportsman's area, but overall we are in a slump right now! Most guys that have been successful last few days have fished pocket water or fast moving runs mid river and up! You could always pay $30 and fish the DSR! I won't, but there are some non educated fish there every morning, not millions, but some I'm sure!
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today was a good day for the guys 2 clean kings 2 cohoes and 2 stealies to the boat and 4 or five more that didn't make it to the boat you know what happens out there !!!! sometimes you need a little more glue on the hook!!! :o :o :o was one of those days right place right time. talked to a lot of people that said it was slow. just had one of those not so common days!!!!
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just so you know the bead works pretty good!!!!! MIDGET :-* :-*
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Must be nice to have a big luxurious Taxi to go down the River in! When you taking me down the river, I ain't as young as I used to be! those forrest marches kill me these days! All I got to say about yesterday is WHITE BAGS and not brownie eggs either! :o :o :o :o These little silver things kept jumping out of the water!! Tough waldo bite tonight with the Big Moon!! Give me a shout about Saturday! You got Salmon on beads too! Holy molly!! :D
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spoted a large run of fish wearing yankees caps headed down to Da bronxs to party last night ;D ;D ;D ;D did it in the house....YANKEES....#27 history again
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spoted a large run of fish wearing yankees caps headed down to Da bronxs to party last night ;D ;D ;D ;D did it in the house....YANKEES....#27 history again
Hey Trapper,Is there going to be a ticker tape parade in front of Altmar Outfitters also?? :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
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Hey Trapper,Is there going to be a ticker tape parade in front of Altmar Outfitters also?? :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
When are you coming up? I still got that big bag of Yellow perch fillets for ya in the freezer from July and some July walleye too, not shad walleye, perch frey walleye. YUMMY!!!!! Rivers in a slight slump right now with the colder temp's, clouds & low water, could pick back up next week though. Supposed to be warmer!
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When are you coming up? I still got that big bag of Yellow perch fillets for ya in the freezer from July and some July walleye too, not shad walleye, perch Frey walleye. YUMMY!!!!! Rivers in a slight slump right now with the colder temp's, clouds & low water, could pick back up next week though. Supposed to be warmer!
I'm still playing catch up, but all my gear is packed and ready to go !!!! but its going to be a suicide type of trip when it happens, you ll just turn around and ill be there
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I'm still playing catch up, but all my gear is packed and ready to go !!!! but its going to be a suicide type of trip when it happens, you ll just turn around and ill be there
Like the old days, I'de turn around at the Bar after fishing all day, and there you guys were! Scary stuff!! :w00t: A little lake effect rolling in right now, nothing major though so far!
This batch is pretty heavy, still scattered though!
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Snowflakes the size of half dollars mixen in the rain
when that batch went through!
It died out, got maybe 1/4(.25)
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Hey shanner,
Who's radar is that ?
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Channel nine news out of Syracuse, they own there own Doppler radar! Real detailed radar for local weather like Lake effect! (newschannel9WSYR) Great Meterologists!
Hey MAYOR Remember this place?
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THE MAYOR STRIKES AGAIN, SOUTH SANDY STYLE!!!
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Hey Mayor, I saw my uncle down to Sylvan beach the other night! ;)
You got to stop over and have a good old fashion walleye dinner with me,
your wasteing away
to nothing eating all them darn steelies! :D
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Channel nine news out of Syracuse, they own there own Doppler radar! Real detailed radar for local weather like Lake effect! (newschannel9WSYR) Great Meterologists!
Hey MAYOR Remember this place?
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Snagger, Hope you said hello to your uncle for me, hav'nt seen him in along time. Thanks for the Walleye invite, sounds great, is it fresh or from your privite stock of 2005 vintage, or the sidewalk freezer. How's the Walleye fishing been ? By the way, isn't it ironic that the name of the Philly player to make the last out in the World Series is SHANE. Make sure you watch the parade today, Johnny Damon will be waving to you. Don't feel bad your Uncle Pedro tried his best. THE MAYOR
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Snagger, Hope you said hello to your uncle for me, hav'nt seen him in along time. Thanks for the Walleye invite, sounds great, is it fresh or from your privite stock of 2005 vintage, or the sidewalk freezer. How's the Walleye fishing been ? By the way, isn't it ironic that the name of the Philly player to make the last out in the World Series is SHANE. Make sure you watch the parade today, Johnny Damon will be waving to you. Don't feel bad your Uncle Pedro tried his best. THE MAYOR
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Snagger, Hope you said hello to your uncle for me, hav'nt seen him in along time. Thanks for the Walleye invite, sounds great, is it fresh or from your privite stock of 2005 vintage, or the sidewalk freezer. How's the Walleye fishing been ? By the way, isn't it ironic that the name of the Philly player to make the last out in the World Series is SHANE. Make sure you watch the parade today, Johnny Damon will be waving to you. Don't feel bad your Uncle Pedro tried his best. THE MAYOR
That's the way to make an entrance Mayor :bowdown: :bowdown: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
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just so you know the bead works pretty good!!!!! MIDGET :-* :-*
Hey Markie been giving away every color bead that I can get a hold of to the guests! Been getting back mixed reports, shouldn't take long too to figure out which ones to stock for different water temps and seasons! Apricot pearl seems to be the closest color I can find that looks like the eggs that were falling out of the steelies stomaches a couple of weeks ago! Everybody's been talking about the Glow, but no success here, that blood dot, has had some good success though! Was 10-12 mm, seems to be 8mm now though! No pink worm action yet, I still like my coho eggs tied in white, but I'm stubborn!!! Catch ya later!
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That's the way to make an entrance Mayor :bowdown: :bowdown: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
SPECTACULAR ENTRANCE!!!!!! you know you secretlly like pedro Mayor! :w00t:
Cold out there today, guys said fishin Ok! Must be a Cowboy convention or Rodeo in town! My guests said the guys with fly line are ropin the heck out of them up here in Altmar! ;D Just got back from the Bridge, wow! Guys taking fish out of the water for 5-7 minutes to take pictures, then throw them back! hey good for the guys who like eating them, saw them swimming bellie up heading down into the spinning area! Unbelievable and they used to call me an outlaw!! Snowing pretty good out there!
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Sounds about right Snagger!! Lets not forget about the 10-15min fight that wipes them out in the first place,then the handling for the pictures!! I just don't get them guys..
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Sounds about right Snagger!! Lets not forget about the 10-15min fight that wipes them out in the first place,then the handling for the pictures!! I just don't get them guys..
That might be the most fly line I've seen below the Bridge, since the "Drought of 2007" . I don't even think I could wiggle in there with my noodle rod! Was back up to the bridge again, alot of sideways swimming steel on that fly line! :w00t: It's a circus up there!
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I hate to say this but....The fly guys are lining the fish anyways at this time of the year..Umm getting lucky and snagging them in the mouth..Sorry fly fisherman but...Your snagging them.. :-*
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"everybody's lining 'em except for me and you, and i ain't so sure about you".
wish i had a buck for every post about lining fish.......
i'll be up tuesday and wednesday. hope to "line" a few!-Paul
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I don't know if I am lining them but I am floating egg sacs. All my fish are hooked in the mouth and the sacs are crushed soo..Do the math Paul... :-*
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"everybody's lining 'em except for me and you, and i ain't so sure about you".
wish i had a buck for every post about lining fish.......
i'll be up tuesday and wednesday. hope to "line" a few!-Paul
Just educating the public that doesn't get it, is all, no BS over here!
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"everybody's lining 'em except for me and you, and i ain't so sure about you".
wish i had a buck for every post about lining fish.......
I'll be up Tuesday and Wednesday. hope to "line" a few!-Paul
hey Paul
What part of Connecticut are you from?
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I can honestly say that when I'm in town, there's allot of lining'em going on
but my eyes are always wide open,admiring the scenery ::) ::) ::)dam fish are always getting tangled up in my line
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THE MAYOR STRIKES AGAIN, SOUTH SANDY STYLE!!!
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Hey Mayor, I saw my uncle down to Sylvan beach the other night! ;)
You got to stop over and have a good old fashion walleye dinner with me,
your wasteing away
to nothing eating all them darn steelies! :D
Hey Snagger, So when is this old fashion Walleye dinner going to be. Looking forward to it. THE MAYOR
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Just educating the public that doesn't get it, is all, no BS over here!
Ha ha... Well, kind of... It is the TITLE of the thread, and all! :D
Mayor, sweet fish! (those waders are fancy, too ;))
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I can honestly say that when I'm in town, there's allot of lining'em going on
but my eyes are always wide open,admiring the scenery ::) ::) ::)dam fish are always getting tangled up in my line
Hey Bunker, Sorry about the ORVIS Emblem on my waders, I forgot the duct tape. THE MAYOR
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Ha ha... Well, kind of... It is the TITLE of the thread, and all! :D
Mayor, sweet fish! (those waders are fancy, too ;))
Thanks Jimmy, Forgot my duct tape. Next pics I'll be covered up. THE MAYOR
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Hey Bunker, Sorry about the ORVIS Emblem on my waders, I forgot the duct tape. THE MAYOR
We might need to get some more tape for when Moose and I come up, I think I might drive the BMW up to save on fuel
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Hey Mayor Snaggers back!
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We might need to get some more tape for when Moose and I come up, I think I might drive the BMW up to save on fuel
Heres my new wheels for the winter, 4 wheel drive and can fit alot of fish in the trunk! :D
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HEY JIMMY IT WAS A RIOT WATCHING ALL
THOSE GUYS TODAY UP AT THE BRIDGE WITH FLY LINE!
:clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
I almost jumped in, an all out snagfest!
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Heres my new wheels for the winter, 4 wheel drive and can fit alot of fish in the trunk! :D
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Well I'm telling you, you could but that truck to good use!!!
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and it doesn't look very blissful in that picture
I can almost smell it from where I'm sitting now :sick: :sick: :sick:
good thing that you can't send odder across the internet yet
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and it doesn't look very blissful in that picture
I can almost smell it from where I'm sitting now :sick: :sick: :sick:
This is in case I got to cut my way to Oneida Lake Ice Fishin!
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Got a little rough last year!
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This is in case I got to cut myway to Oneida Lake Ice Fishin!
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Got a little rough last year!
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Just think, if you had vehicles like that back in "THE DRINKING DAYS" they just might have survived it.
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What do you think Mayor????
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Heres my new wheels for the winter, 4 wheel drive and can fit alot of fish in the trunk! :D
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HEY JIMMY IT WAS A RIOT WATCHING ALL
THOSE GUYS TODAY UP AT THE BRIDGE WITH FLY LINE!
:clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
I almost jumped in, an all out snagfest!
Snagger, At first I thought your new vehicle was an Audi, then a BMW but the hood emblem shows that it is a Mercedes. Good luck with it you'll be easy to find on the river now that your driving in a class vehicle. THE MAYOR
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Snagger, At first I thought your new vehicle was an Audi, then a BMW but the hood emblem shows that it is a Mercedes. Good luck with it you'll be easy to find on the river now that your driving in a class vehicle. THE MAYOR
:clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
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This is in case I got to cut my way to Oneida Lake Ice Fishin!
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Got a little rough last year!
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That bottom pic shows the true meaning of the phrase "TUNNEL VISION"
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Hey MAYOR, Did the Moose Man reach you?
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Just think, if you had vehicles like that back in "THE DRINKING DAYS" they just might have survived it.
Heres a pic from the old 2 30 packs a day trips on Oneida Lake with Jay P.
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Heres a pic from the old 2- 30 packs on Oneida Lake days with Jay P!
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what, did you finally buy a scanner??
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Hey Snagger, So when is this old fashion Walleye dinner going to be. Looking forward to it. THE MAYOR
Hey Mayor, be careful the Walleyes might have been stored in the back of the Mercedes
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Hey MAYOR, Did the Moose Man reach you?
Bunker, Moose Man called & left a message, said he would call later. THE MAYOR
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Hey Mayor, be careful the Walleyes might have been stored in the back of the Mercedes
Bunker, I think the Walleyes are in the Honda refrigerator. THE MAYOR
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OK BSing aside, back to Fishing, Friday Report: Even though it was cold and some snow, heard that Good Amount of new fish have made it to the top end of the River from friends and a guest staying here! The big Sandies fish have retreated back down stream and turned lock jawed, that could get good in 2-3 days after it warms back up( a low water version of good though) Had no reports on the lower end, but I assume theres fish trickling in throughout! It was a riot watching the crowds up here at the bridge, might have to join in on that fun tomorrow, til then, here's a pic of some Chrome!
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Hey Mayor plan on a mid week walleye dinner, probably going to take advantage of this good weather stretch comng to get some stuff done around the property,maybe a little walleye/steelhead fishin too Catch ya later!
Looks like a full 7 days without rain coming( few showers Tuesday), next chance of a REAL rain is next Friday NICE!! :D Can you say Indian Summer!
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HEY SNAGGER!, Josh wants to know if there are any fish up at the bridge, and if so, does he have to bring the BAT!!!! :flex: He's learning ;D --KP
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HEY SNAGGER!, Josh wants to know if there are any fish up at the bridge, and if so, does he have to bring the BAT!!!! :flex: He's learning ;D --KP
Looking out the window you may need to bring more than just a baseball bat!
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here is a Youtube video I made.. If anybody want me to make a movie for them send me a PM and we can talk about it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b7YW7xg_io (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b7YW7xg_io)
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here is a Youtube video I made.. If anybody want me to make a movie for them send me a PM and we can talk about it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b7YW7xg_io (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b7YW7xg_io)
That is extremely COOL, I used to make tons of video's with music dubbed in in the early 90's had to do it with 2 CD players, dual tape decks, receivers,wires, mixing board and all kinds of stuff back then. Since those days have lost or taped over most of it. You Got to Show me how to up load music to a slide show or a video, that's the whole reason I got into computers, I used to DJ part time in the late 80's early 90's, don't need mixing boards now! ;D Is there a way to change the Format of the old S-VHS tapes over to the computer?
THAT'S WAY COOL STUFF MAN!!!!
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That is extremely COOL, I used to make tons of video's with music dubbed in in the early 90's had to do it with 2 CD players, dual tape decks, receivers,wires, mixing board and all kinds of stuff back then. Since those days have lost or taped over most of it. You Got to Show me how to up load music to a slide show or a video, that's the whole reason I got into computers, I used to DJ part time in the late 80's early 90's, don't need mixing boards now! ;D Is there a way to change the Format of the old S-VHS tapes over to the computer?
THAT'S WAY COOL STUFF MAN!!!!
I think some old DURAN DURAN would work out just right!!!! :w00t:--KP
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Doing a little experiment today with guys staying here! Comparing 6mm vs 8-10mm beads, mottled & glow vs apricot and white vs pink sac's, plus bottom vs floats! I like doing experiments once in a while! Also was looking at Drennan flouro, looks alot like a much more expensive version of Maxima Ultra green, or am I missing something, it isn't completely clear like other flouro's & has huge diameter!!!
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I think some old DURAN DURAN would work out just right!!!! :w00t:--KP
I was thinking more in the lines of DOKKEN, RATT, or OLD VH!!!!!!
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I was thinking more in the lines of DOKKEN, RATT, or OLD VH!!!!!!
Yeah, What you said!!!!! What was I thinking?? Duran Duran doesn't go too well with Fishing!! How 'bout some old hardcore IRON MAIDEN--KP
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Is there a way to change the Format of the old S-VHS tapes over to the computer?
The cheapest way (as long as you still have a S-VHS player) is just buy a plug in converter. I'm sure they've come down quite a bit in price since 02 when I bought all my equipment since I doubt you're looking to spend $6-7k for a full blown editing suite ;) ;) I remember the days of playing around with multiple decks, mixers and all the fun crap that I'm glad is so far outdated I don't have to see any of it again ;) ;)
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Is there a way to change the Format of the old S-VHS tapes over to the computer?
Yes you can convert your VHS stuff to digital you have to buy a converter cable and software..I think you can find the software on the net for free... I did all with Windows moive maker Snagger really easy..I will stop in and show you how to do it.. YOu might have to download the software from microsoft and I think its free too.
Carppie...
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slayer would be awesome like rain in blood or somethin lol :o
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Bunker, I think the Walleyes are in the Honda refrigerator. THE MAYOR
I remember that refrigerator, all you do is leave the windows down for it to work.
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slayer would be awesome like rain in blood or somethin lol :o
Forgot about slayer, I like the new GODSMACK album, I listen too alot of new heavy stuff on the way to fishing, but getting old and can't keep up with the bands names anymore! I'm dieing to make an ice fishing music video! Big guitar riff as the waldo comes through the hole would kick butt! Dalila by kiss, lots of songs out there! Now you got me thinking!
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I will help you Snagger with your Video..If you have the pictures we can put it all together I have a lot of free time...lol....
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I will help you Snagger with your Video..If you have the pictures we can put it all together I have a lot of free time...lol....
THANKS CARPIE, I'm busy with people and other stuff til Sunday, then I'm not as Busy! I CAN'T WAIT!! Wow was it crowded in Altmar today, should have took a picture. Heard from guests that the fishing was pretty tough, but cleaned some nice steelies in the 7-11lb. range! Be interesting to see if this warm weather gets them active after the Sunday crowds leave! Had one guest do double digits with a very unusual bait, but most guys just hooked a few. Hopefully it picks up a bit tomorrow!
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THANKS CARPIE, I'm busy with people and other stuff til Sunday, then I'm not as Busy! I CAN'T WAIT!!
I am kinda a geek with this stuff.. that was just a plan video, I can really make some cool movies!
This is not a Salmon fishing video but here is one from my yearly trip to Canada.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiTXSAvTgcw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiTXSAvTgcw)
A big toothy pike..
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The cheapest way (as long as you still have a S-VHS player) is just buy a plug in converter. I'm sure they've come down quite a bit in price since 02 when I bought all my equipment since I doubt you're looking to spend $6-7k for a full blown editing suite ;) ;) I remember the days of playing around with multiple decks, mixers and all the fun crap that I'm glad is so far outdated I don't have to see any of it again ;) ;)
Thanks man. I'll figure this out eventually, I don't even own a dvd recorder!
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Hey Mayor, did you fish today?
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Thanks man. I'll figure this out eventually, I don't even own a dvd recorder!
NP Snagger...I used to edit video for a living. Still remember some of my old tricks ;) ;)
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Hey Guys,
I'll be making the trip over to fish the Salmon River next weekend 13th-15th, just curious about the water levels/fishing pressure as we'll be
out in the drift boat on Sunday?
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Hey Guys,
I'll be making the trip over to fish the Salmon River next weekend 13th-15th, just curious about the water levels/fishing pressure as we'll be
out in the drift boat on Sunday?
If the weather is nice could be a little crowded at the top end, HUGE RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE over much of the country, No Real RAIN all week, wouldn't be suprised if they drop it to 285cfs by then! Going to be a warm, then mild week, should keep the fish moving, even though waters are not high! We just got used to high water last 2 season's, this really isn't that unusual for this time of year, but some of it could have been avoided! El Nino in the Eastern Pacific this year, could have a messy winter! That would fill the RES!
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NP Snagger...I used to edit video for a living. Still remember some of my old tricks ;) ;)
I thought of a song for dubbing-
JUDIST PRIEST-"THE RIPPER"
It's great just figured out how to have music playing while I'm surfing the internet, right now I'm listening to DOKKEN- the Hunter!!! ;D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2NomJuAkoA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2NomJuAkoA)
The Ripper?? Well here you go Snagger..lol.... :-*
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2NomJuAkoA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2NomJuAkoA)
The Ripper?? Well here you go Snagger..lol.... :-*
:flex: I"M LISTENING TO THE RIPPER RIGHT NOW!!!! :flex:
For ten years or so I had this one bunch of guys who came up from Garfield NJ, that would only play that song when we were driving from hole to hole on the River, you know the guys Mayor! :flex:
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Me too The Iron maiden version!
Here's One for you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAagedeKdcQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAagedeKdcQ)
This would be a good one a fishin Video...lol...
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:flex: I"M LISTENING TO THE RIPPER RIGHT NOW!!!! :flex:
For ten years or so I had this one bunch of guys who came up from Garfield NJ, that would only play that song when we were driving from hole to hole on the River, you know the guys Mayor! :flex:
Hey Snagger, Richie and the boys...The Mayor
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Snagger, Yes, I fished the BP yesterday with Puffy & we did very well. Also got a nice brown at the NM building. THE MAYOR
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Hey Snagger, Richie and the boys...The Mayor
HEY MAYOR, got reports of some guy wacking some nice CHROME TODAY DOWN TOWN! Know anything about this? ;D Bet you TOM'S Run would be good in 335cfs, but alot of darkies though!
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Snagger, Yes, I fished the BP yesterday with Puffy & we did very well. Also got a nice brown at the NM building. THE MAYOR
You mean these!
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Can't hide from me, I'm the gingerbread man!
Hey what were you doing in Altmar, slumming. I guess you can hide from me! ;D
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HEY MAYOR, got reports of some guy wacking some nice CHROME TODAY DOWN TOWN! Know anything about this? ;D Bet you TOM'S Run would be good in 335cfs, but alot of darkies though!
Snagger, Wacking some chrome you say, :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: I don't know nothing. ;D All I can tell you is check your e-mail :thumbup_smilie: :clapping: :flag: THE MAYOR
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You mean these!
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Can't hide from me, I'm the gingerbread man!
Hey what were you doing in Altmar, slumming. I guess you can hide from me! ;D
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Snagger, Are you doing an Uncle John & hiding in the woods or up in the trees :nono: THE MAYOR
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That is extremely COOL, I used to make tons of video's with music dubbed in in the early 90's had to do it with 2 CD players, dual tape decks, receivers,wires, mixing board and all kinds of stuff back then. Since those days have lost or taped over most of it. You Got to Show me how to up load music to a slide show or a video, that's the whole reason I got into computers, I used to DJ part time in the late 80's early 90's, don't need mixing boards now! ;D Is there a way to change the Format of the old S-VHS tapes over to the computer?
THAT'S WAY COOL STUFF MAN!!!!
And Ya aught to see himm bust a move! He was the snag master dance alot back in the day.
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Bunker, Did great today at the snorkel hole. Everyone that went down I thought of you. ;D :thumbup_smilie: The Mayor
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Forgot about slayer, I like the new GODSMACK album, I listen too alot of new heavy stuff on the way to fishing, but getting old and can't keep up with the bands names anymore! I'm dieing to make an ice fishing music video! Big guitar riff as the waldo comes through the hole would kick butt! Dalila by kiss, lots of songs out there! Now you got me thinking!
I went to a Lamb of God / GWAR Metal show with Brad the Plumber the other night, I think were the oldest there. My heads still poundin
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I thought of a song for dubbing-
JUDIST PRIEST-"THE RIPPER"
It's great just figured out how to have music playing while I'm surfing the internet, right now I'm listening to DOKKEN- the Hunter!!! ;D
Alice in Chains/ Down in a Hole.
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Well I was sitting back in my lawn chair today enjoying the sun and noticed that by 3PM or so almost all the cars were gone in the parking lot! Those people must have been crazy, what a beautiful day to be out there. Lady bugs popping all over the place! From my house could here 2 guys argueing about fishing up at the bridge, they were really loud and mad too, then ate some lasagna & I fell asleep in the lawn chair! What a great day, didn't go fishing and got nothing accomplished. :laugh:
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Well I was sitting back in my lawn chair today enjoying the sun and noticed that by 3PM or so almost all the cars were gone in the parking lot! Those people must have been crazy, what a beautiful day to be out there. Lady bugs popping all over the place! From my house could here 2 guys argueing about fishing up at the bridge, they were really loud and mad too, then ate some lasagna & I fell asleep in the lawn chair! What a great day, didn't go fishing and got nothing accomplished. :laugh:
Did ya get a suntan?
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Alice in Chains/ Down in a Hole.
Remember that day Chris was singing every word to that song, when me & you were REALLY hungover over to Orwell creek! I miss my hangovers, Like Ozzy said, Sobriety Sucks!!!!! Kill anymore Monster bucks Black albie?
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I went to a Lamb of God / GWAR Metal show with Brad the Plumber the other night, I think were the oldest there. My heads still poundin
I think we are getting a little too old to be jumping around the middle of mosh pitts! I don't even think I could play hacky sack anymore, let alone go Drunkin Moshing! :w00t:
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You are only as old as you feel :D Hey snagger when you heading up to oneida again? Just got back from giving trapper a ride... Has the river slowed down to the point were i should just wait to come up or you think I should give it a try this week? Still gotta drop a deer!
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You are only as old as you feel :D Hey snagger when you heading up to oneida again? Just got back from giving trapper a ride... Has the river slowed down to the point were i should just wait to come up or you think I should give it a try this week? Still gotta drop a deer!
With this warmer weather and weekend crowds gone, I'de come up! There aint going to be any repeats of what happened that week or so after Columbus day weekend again til the April River drop, but should be decent this week!
Does this answer your question fishinaddict,
down river bright movement again with warmer temps!
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:w00t: THE MAYOR STRIKES AGAIN IN THE PULASKI ROLLERS!!! :w00t:
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Hey Black albatraz, what was the name of that club we used to go to in downtown Rochester back in 1990-93, it had an upper deck surrounding all the pillars the girls would dance on? Looked like an old coliseum type movie theater turned into a club, That place rocked! Was it called "Heaven" Never made it to Penfield at daybreak back then! :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: And pounding heads!! WOW!! :clapping:
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Remember that day Chris was singing every word to that song, when me & you were REALLY hungover over to Orwell creek! I miss my hangovers, Like Ozzy said, Sobriety Sucks!!!!! Kill anymore Monster bucks Black albie?
Stuck a couple nice ones, spent alot of time tracking, came up empty like a 70 year old prostitute looking for work.
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I think we are getting a little too old to be jumping around the middle of mosh pitts! I don't even think I could play hacky sack anymore, let alone go Drunkin Moshing! :w00t:
I was staying pretty close to the edge. I am either getting smarter or I was not drunk and angry enough. I do remember Chris singing that. That was so cool. His video of Big Jim sleeping in the dome was world class as well.
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Hey Black albatraz, what was the name of that club we used to go to in downtown Rochester back in 1990-93, it had an upper deck surrounding all the pillars the girls would dance on? Looked like an old coliseum type movie theater turned into a club, That place rocked! Was it called "Heaven" Never made it to Penfield at daybreak back then! :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: And pounding heads!! WOW!! :clapping:
Yup. we were always burning both ends of the day back then.
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Nice to see the mayer in the water smiling. That is current right?
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Nice to see the mayer in the water smiling. That is current right?
Hey Black Albatraz, You have a way with words, I caught them in the current. ;D ;D ;D THE MAYOR
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Hey Black Albatraz, You have a way with words, I caught them in the current. ;D ;D ;D THE MAYOR
Can't wait to see your E-mails today Mayor, this is got to be one of nicest days of the year!
:clapping: SUNNY AND & CLOSE TO A RECORD 74 DEGREES IN NOVEMBER!!! :w00t:
Came up with another background song for a fishing video after taking a ride around Altmar, between all the drift boats and people I thought of this one!
GUNS N ROSES - "WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE"
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Looks like the River is staying at 335cfs til Friday!! The extended forcast calls for absolutely no rain til atleast next Sunday and that's questionable with cooler temps next 2 days, then well above normal temps, could be back in the 60's next weekend! So what's ya see is what you got for a while! And with No water in our local smaller Tribs! The creeks out west besides the "OAK" are just about dryed up, so guess where everybody will be! Maybe some will drive to the "CATT" and other Erie Tribs, heard that's good right now, and give our River a break!!! My thermometer hit 71 degrees today, combine that with a warmer night, should get lower end fish moving tonight!
My guests staying here did OK, didn't set the world on fire, like a half dozen fish each, mostly down River! I stopped up at the Bridge around 1 PM , WOW is it Salmon Season again, there was hook ups though! Give em Hell Boys!!!
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Had a blown opportunity on a real nice buck this morning thats y bow hunting is so fun... Anyone can shoot one with a rifle... hey snagger when you goin to oneida?
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Had a blown opportunity on a real nice buck this morning thats y bow hunting is so fun... Anyone can shoot one with a rifle... hey snagger when you goin to oneida?
Winds are shifting to the North west tomorrow, not heavy winds, but could be worth trying, getting leaves and stuff done here! Dave tied a bizzilion egg sacs today, he's steelheading tomorrow here, said he was at Oswego yesterday and Murdered them!!!!
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:hey snag good to hear you ate the lasagna how was it thanks for the great few days we were there most fun I had in 15 years everybody back next year they said you were the best the walleye will be GONE tomorrow nite tell bobberdown next year he will be asking me to wear my hat thanks again-----RICK
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:hey snag good to hear you ate the lasagna how was it thanks for the great few days we were there most fun I had in 15 years everybody back next year they said you were the best the walleye will be GONE tomorrow nite tell bobberdown next year he will be asking me to wear my hat thanks again-----RICK
Hopefully next year you guys will time that late salmon MONSTER steelie run, instead of this workin for them stuff. Lasagna was the "BOMB MAN" thanks, enjoy the walleye fillets! ;D catch ya later!
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Can't wait to see your E-mails today Mayor, this is got to be one of nicest days of the year!
:clapping: SUNNY AND & CLOSE TO A RECORD 74 DEGREES IN NOVEMBER!!! :w00t:
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GUNS N ROSES - "WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE"
Snagger, Fished THE SNORKEL HOLE yesterday with PUFFY & today alone. Did great both days. Mixed bag, couple of big Male Coho, some nice Browns & Steelhead , landed a big male today around 19 lbs, released him but kepted a couple of nice female browns for the eggs for you. Two zip-lock bags cured & ready to go. I'll drop them off for you. Weather was great , hope it stays like this for awhile, but would like to see some rain at night to get the creeks going again, especially SS. THE MAYOR
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Snagger, Fished THE SNORKEL HOLE yesterday with PUFFY & today alone. Did great both days. Mixed bag, couple of big Male Coho, some nice Browns & Steelhead , landed a big male today around 19 lbs, released him but kepted a couple of nice female browns for the eggs for you. Two zip-lock bags cured & ready to go. I'll drop them off for you. Weather was great , hope it stays like this for awhile, but would like to see some rain at night to get the creeks going again, especially SS. THE MAYOR
You have been on some kind of Roll lately, you were at the "Snorkel hole" and you didn't stop by! This weather has been fantastic, not good for killing waldo's though! SOON!!!! Bridge was a mob scene!! Catch ya later Mayor.
Look what I found in my E-mail!! ;D ;D
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You have been on some kind of Roll lately, you were at the "Snorkel hole" and you didn't stop by! This weather has been fantastic, not good for killing waldo's though! SOON!!!! Bridge was a mob scene!! Catch ya later Mayor.
Look what I found in my E-mail!! ;D ;D
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Snagger, See you tomorrow, I'll bring the brownie eggs. Let's go see the mob seen at the bridge. I hav'nt fished in a crowded area in quite awhile & finding plenty of fish. Puffy & I found plenty of chrome from the NM building to my wave on saturday. I'll probable fish the SNORKLE HOLE in the a.m. Oh by the way, are you saving the gut barrels for a special occasion. THE MAYOR
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Well when the weather is this nice and youo have a day off you must do everything in "ONE" day. I fished with fellow MFF member Fishingjason...
1 NY Resident Fishing license : $29.00
247 miles driving: $49.50 gas
7 Finger lakes Lake trout, 3 Oneida walleyes, 2 Sandy creek steelheads, and 1 Atlantic Salmon: priceless ?
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Well when the weather is this nice and youo have a day off you must do everything in "ONE" day. I fished with fellow MFF member Fishingjason...
1 NY Resident Fishing license : $29.00
247 miles driving: $49.50 gas
7 Finger lakes Lake trout, 3 Oneida walleyes, 2 Sandy creek steelheads, and 1 Atlantic Salmon: priceless ?
Sounds like the perfect trifecta day, 3 great fisheries!!! It's great when everything comes together! Can you imagine if the sandies were green and higher and you had some wind at oneida! Oh my God!! But it wouldn't been 71 and Sunny, GREAT REPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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seems to me you guys are killing them up there on the salmon.. down here in burt country its been hit or miss for me mostly miss because i cant fish as much working 2 jobs school and a bunch of bs....
i hoping to make it to the salmon in feb or march
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seems to me you guys are killing them up there on the salmon.. down here in burt country its been hit or miss for me mostly miss because i cant fish as much working 2 jobs school and a bunch of bs....
i hoping to make it to the salmon in feb or march
We were spoiled the last 2 season's with late season flows being higher! Right now we are back to business as usual, working for them! Hey I remember floating from Altmar to 2A in 99-01 and counting how many fish I seen, people have it pretty good right now compared to those days. Alot of people love this flow, I like it at 750, can't always get what you want, just go with the flow! We had great years like 96-97 going into those years, everything runs in cycles! Hope we get some western NY rain for ya, so 18 mile will go up! Catch ya later!
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Know what I think would be cool(not for my lodging), if the snow came early like last year and had a long cold winter, they dropped the water to 185 and we could ICE FISH the frozen holes down River for steelies! That would be a riot on 28-32 inch poles! ;D
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Snagger, Fished THE SNORKEL HOLE yesterday with PUFFY & today alone. Did great both days. Mixed bag, couple of big Male Coho, some nice Browns & Steelhead , landed a big male today around 19 lbs, released him but kepted a couple of nice female browns for the eggs for you. Two zip-lock bags cured & ready to go. I'll drop them off for you. Weather was great , hope it stays like this for awhile, but would like to see some rain at night to get the creeks going again, especially SS. THE MAYOR
Hey Mayor, nice fish :clapping: :The water looks a little low to snorkel though.Well it's mid week and you should be getting a nice walleye dinner soon , Snaggers seasoning them in those barrels for extra flavor. I bet the lobster men down home would love that stuff for there traps! Hey what caught your eye in that first pic? I can see that those Orvis waders haven't affected you at all!! Maybe thats soup in the barrels? ???
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slayer would be awesome like rain in blood or somethin lol :o
PANTERA "Cemetary Gates" ;D
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I went to a Lamb of God / GWAR Metal show with Brad the Plumber the other night, I think were the oldest there. My heads still poundin
I gotta think that GWAR has got to be one of the oldest bands around right now, they are still going at it Huh? Don't think I'll be joining in on any MOSH PITS anytime soon either. The 80's and 90's were some really fun years, I have to agree with SNAGGER on that!!!!! ROCK ON!!!!
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The Crowds have really thinned out today,
here's a few pic's from the bridge in Altmar.
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That's not bad considering the good weather we are having!
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Still too many, bring on the snow and cold!!!!!!!!!
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Three is a crowd >:( >:( >:(
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We were spoiled the last 2 season's with late season flows being higher! Right now we are back to business as usual, working for them! Hey I remember floating from Altmar to 2A in 99-01 and counting how many fish I seen, people have it pretty good right now compared to those days. Alot of people love this flow, I like it at 750, can't always get what you want, just go with the flow! We had great years like 96-97 going into those years, everything runs in cycles! Hope we get some western NY rain for ya, so 18 mile will go up! Catch ya later!
see we have ha drain just too many people and i hate dealing with 075902875 million people its starting to die down thank god, i have another ? where can i purchase a decent centerpin for under 350?
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see we have ha drain just too many people and i hate dealing with 075902875 million people its starting to die down thank god, i have another ? where can i purchase a decent centerpin for under 350?
ALL SEASON'S SPORTS in Pulaski, Okuma - Sheffield combo's are under 350, I believe!!!
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but i live in wny that is a far drive lol im just too lazy and im looking for one because my dad is buying it for me for christmas. i was hoping you knew a place online besides FISHusa.com
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Call All Seasons, they will ship it I am sure. Jimmy is a great guy.
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Know what I think would be cool(not for my lodging), if the snow came early like last year and had a long cold winter, they dropped the water to 185 and we could ICE FISH the frozen holes down River for steelies! That would be a riot on 28-32 inch poles! ;D
We do it on some of the Erie tribs ;) ;) and trust me...those fish on such small rods is an absolute blast ;D ;D
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Hey Guys,
Here's a question for ya....? I'm from NH and fish the Salmon River 2-3 times a year as well as Ontario...Gonna be headed back out there this
weekend on the Salmon R. and was going to pick up a new spinning rod... I currently have an 8' 6" St. Croix med action (8-15lbs)....
Most of the local shops here in NH are limited on selection for the longer rods (most are 7' or less) what would you guys reccomend...I'll probably pick one up when I get out there on Friday...?
I'd appreciate your feedback...Thanks...Keith :)
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Hey Guys,
Here's a question for ya....? I'm from NH and fish the Salmon River 2-3 times a year as well as Ontario...Gonna be headed back out there this
weekend on the Salmon R. and was going to pick up a new spinning rod... I currently have an 8' 6" St. Croix med action (8-15lbs)....
Most of the local shops here in NH are limited on selection for the longer rods (most are 7' or less) what would you guys reccomend...I'll probably pick one up when I get out there on Friday...?
I'd appreciate your feedback...Thanks...Keith :)
Everyone at my house either runs the 10'6" Cortland Endurance(2-10lb.) or the GL2 10' light by Loomis! the Cortlands run about 75 bucks and the Loomis runs about $220. Theres lots of rods out there, but these are my 2 favorites for spinning situations. Good luck on your trip!
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If you live in CNY, Cortland rods are tough to beat for the price...
The guys at the factory outlet store (or even the factory itself on Kellogg Road) are great and wicked helpful. They really back their stuff, and the few rods I have broken have always been replaced (at least the tip sections) right there in person.
Fresh new one in the plastic, no charge.
I don't think too many people consider Cortland, NY the 'epicenter of fishing', but if it is an easy drive for you it saves about half the cost not having to buy pricier gear for the warranty.
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Tuesday fishing report: Hook up numbers went up, but not as much as I would have thought, with that said, had one guest land 5 for 10!! Had another guest that hooked 6, another guy said 5, those kinds of numbers, which for steelies aint bad in my book! It was nice to see the crowds thin out a little! Another beautiful weather day with temps in the 50's! Got to love it! Heard and seen some really Awesome red coho's today as well as a few browns! Coho egg sacs and flies were the ticket today! Good luck tomorrow guys! ;D
Hey remember this spot BUNKER?
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I remember going in allot deeper than that, But it did make me buy a belt.
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Hey Mayor, you should send Snagger the step by step pictures
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I remember going in allot deeper than that, But it did make me buy a belt.
Bunker, We use to be able to walk a fish down, but each year it gets cut out deeper & deeper. I can remember you asking me can I get through. Then you got in deeper & deeper until the water started trickling over the top of your waders. You were already beyond the point of return & wetter than you wanted to be, letting everyone in the area know how cold the water really was, but you continued on and landed a beautiful STEELHEAD. I know Moose & I will never forget that day on the river with you. For that you are an honorary member of the Snorkel Man Award & that hole from this day forth will be called the SNORKEL HOLE in your honor. :bowdown: :bowdown: :clapping: :clapping: :thumbup_smilie: :thumbup_smilie: : :flag: :flag: THE MAYOR
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Hey Mayor, you should send Snagger the step by step pictures
Bunker, I will later, I'm going fishing. THE MAYOR
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Hey CNY how much experience do your buds have at fishing steelies this time of year? Heres some quick advice, if there running spinning outfits. 6lb good quality clear line has been the norm( alot of guys run exspensive fluorocarbon, but most quality clear lines have similar light refraction and better abrasion qualities like maxima ultra green or Trilene sensation)with alot of my vetran anglers already dropping to 4 lb., but need a long light noodle rod to absorb the shock of hard fighting steelies with lines that light! Some are using floats, some are bottom bouncing, the fish are very spooky right now, even down river, Driftboat traffic has been Horrendous this year, seems like everybody owns one now! With the best stretch of November weather we have seen in years, the River will stay Semi-crowded for a while yet! The beads haven't been on fire like the last 2 years, lower water and crowds has brought it back to egg sacs and flies again. Waters got to get a little colder yet for the pink power worm bite, but aways worth trying! I'll give you a call later bud!
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i personally run mono! it adds a little shock restance i run 8 lb main line to a 6 or 4 lb tippet i personally like max. leader materal but theres many good ones on the market , with the low water on salmon river i'd start right out with 4 pound myself ,remeber with the shorter leader laws the leader will break easy! so you want a good noodle rod and take your time , i'm thinking nymph time :)
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I'm looking out my window right now, can't fit one more car in either parking lot up at the Altmar bridge. Low water and good weather = people!!!!!!!!!!! Give em helll boys!!!! ;D
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i personally run mono! it adds a little shock restance i run 8 lb main line to a 6 or 4 lb tippet i personally like max. leader materal but theres many good ones on the market , with the low water on salmon river i'd start right out with 4 pound myself ,remeber with the shorter leader laws the leader will break easy! so you want a good noodle rod and take your time , i'm thinking nymph time :)
In the last 3 days or so almost everybody has switched to flies trap, also coho(not brown trout) egg sac's! The steelies are tired of seeing beads and brownie bags I guess! ;)
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Hey trap, it's funny, alot of people think that the Power of the Internet is the reason behind why the Salmon River is crowded right now, has nothing to do with EVERY other Trib in New York state is dried up and this is the best stretch of weather we have had in many many years!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D What do you think Trap!
Happy veteran's day to all the men & women who have & are serving & protecting this great country!
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Hey Snagger, I haven't caught a Steelie on a Brown Sac,since I got them!! Are they that picky??
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Hey Snagger, I haven't caught a Steelie on a Brown Sac,since I got them!! Are they that picky??
They can be sometimes, Look how picky they are with bead colors sometimes, your brown trout stomach pictures showed brownie eggs though from Oswego! I believe color of netting and sac size is more important though. In Oswego you guys use bombs, where I tie only 3 salmon eggs per sac and pop one, that's small!
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i personally run mono! it adds a little shock restance i run 8 lb main line to a 6 or 4 lb tippet i personally like max. leader materal but theres many good ones on the market , with the low water on salmon river i'd start right out with 4 pound myself ,remeber with the shorter leader laws the leader will break easy! so you want a good noodle rod and take your time , i'm thinking nymph time :)
Hey I think I saw "Smoky and the Bandit" the other day!!!!! :clapping:
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Hey Snagger, I here theres some Connecticut boys packing up to head your way
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Hey trap, it's funny, alot of people think that the power of the internet is the reason behind why the Salmon River is crowded right now, has nothing to do with EVERY other Trib in New York state is dried up and this is the best stretch of weather we have had in I don;t know how long! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D What do you think Trap!
I felt like saying something along those lines over on SC but didn't feel like being a know it all in the eyes of the idiot who originally started that rant ::) ::) I know I'm not driving up until you guys get some rain. Way too many small tribs that can produce numbers without being shoulder to shoulder. They just need some water in em :-\ :-\
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Hey Snagger, I here theres some Connecticut boys backing up to head your way
Hey Bunker, Be careful backing up to Altmar. Fished the S.H. today & hit some nice chrome , one coho & right before I left a big male Steelhead approx 18or 19 lb on a copper & black stone fly. While fighting the steelhead I looked up & there was Snagger across from me snapping pictures. Can't wait to fish with you guys. Your friend. THE MAYOR
SNORKEL HOLE SNORKEL HOLE SNORKEL HOLE SNORKEL HOLE
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to be honest snag if the power of the internet was the reason people would pack oswego river right now! my opinion it's better fishing and plenty of water with fish that are a lot less spooky .... my opinion i'd be tossing more nymphs and float fisherman could do well with minnows in this weather.... beads work on fish that can't close there mouths lol ....opinion and fresh browns and rainbows fall for them .....but my question is this if i'm going to run a bead and get hung up more why not just run a glo bug????? reason ....easier to left a fish with a bead! again this is my opinion
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Been fishing beads for the last two days Trapp..I did think that they would hit them but they do... ;D You can lift fish with anything. Its funny,we'll fish again and I'll show ya..No you don't get as hung up wiht a bead.
Frank...
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YOU BOYS AREN'T LIFTING ARE YOU?????? ::) :whistling:--KP
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frank thats only because your honestly fishing them ,most are rippen with them , just a easy way to hide it ... with the free hook 2 inches down it makes it easy bro
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Hey Bunker, Be careful backing up to Altmar. Fished the S.H. today & hit some nice chrome , one coho & right before I left a big male Steelhead approx 18or 19 lb on a copper & black stone fly. While fighting the steelhead I looked up & there was Snagger across from me snapping pictures. Can't wait to fish with you guys. Your friend. THE MAYOR
SNORKEL HOLE SNORKEL HOLE SNORKEL HOLE SNORKEL HOLE
I wish I was one of the boys going, but you do know a few of them, Im working all weekend :'( :'( :'(
if I was going though you could count on the fact that lifting is always an option
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Hey trapper whats up man hows the car holding up? Hoping to get up for some steelies shortly just cant seem to stick a deer. When you gonna teach me the ways of the float?
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Hey Black Albatraz, You have a way with words, I caught them in the current. ;D ;D ;D THE MAYOR
I See you dont mess around much with the Salmon. You wait and go right for the silver ;)
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YOU BOYS AREN'T LIFTING ARE YOU?????? ::) :whistling:--KP
Lifting I don't understand the concept...lol.. Not at all,this week they are smacking glow roe beads.. :whistling: :thumbup_smilie: :bowdown: I wouldn't believe it myself if I didn't see it!!
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Had a blown opportunity on a real nice buck this morning thats y bow hunting is so fun... Anyone can shoot one with a rifle... hey snagger when you goin to oneida?
I Stuck a nice one yesterday, Tracked it thru the thick stuff toward a road. Funny i seen this truck start up and drive away close to where the blood was going The blood ended up abruptly at these tire tracks. That was the easiest deer that thief ever got. Must have died at that field edge next to the road. I dont have the Black Albatraz name for nuthin ya know. >:(
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Wednesday fishing report: All the guys here had a great day, had a guy here from the state of Maine who never steelhead fished before hooked up 7 times with the steel and landed 2 browns to boot. NO GUIDE!! He's hooked!!!! Him and his buddy hooked up 21 times today in the lower fly zone and another spot! People today were ganged up in groups, I went to a spot down the road, you tell me if it's crowded!
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Where is everybody?????? I am going to stay in Oswego...
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Hey Bunker, Be careful backing up to Altmar. Fished the S.H. today & hit some nice chrome , one coho & right before I left a big male Steelhead approx 18or 19 lb on a copper & black stone fly. While fighting the steelhead I looked up & there was Snagger across from me snapping pictures. Can't wait to fish with you guys. Your friend. THE MAYOR
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Well there was one guy there, the "Mayor"!!!
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NICE STEELIE MAYOR!!! Good talking to you again!!!
And the fish was released to fight another day!!
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Where is everybody?????? I am going to stay in Oswego...
NEVER LEAVE FISH TO FIND FISH!!!!!! ;)
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I have to get up there....
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Bunker, I will later, I'm going fishing. THE MAYOR
Hey Mayor, If you look back it now shows as PACKING
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I See you dont mess around much with the Salmon. You wait and go right for the silver ;)
Black Albatraz, I fished for the Salmon alittle bit, was'nt feeling up to par during the run. I have my good days & bad days. THE MAYOR
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Late report came in, the River is coming out of it's slump! The guys in one of my cabin's reported that they landed 12 steelhead out of they don't know how many hook ups for 3 guys. There best day in 10 years for one of them! They fished mid river with coho egg sacs, they won't let me say where or what color egg netting the sacs where tied in! Some things are best left unknown!!!! ;D Today was definetly a good day! The warmer weather from a couple days ago and today's sunshine is doing it's job!
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Had a late report come in: The guys in one of my cabin's reported that they landed 12 steelhead out of they don't know how many hook ups for 3 guys. There best day in 10 years for one of them! They fished mid river with coho egg sacs, they won't let me say where or what color egg netting the sacs where tied in! Some things are best left unknown!!!! ;D Today was definetly a good day! The warmer weather from a couple days ago and today's sunshine is doing it's job!
Snagger, Was that the Maine boys ? THE MAYOR
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Had a late report come in: The guys in one of my cabin's reported that they landed 12 steelhead out of they don't know how many hook ups for 3 guys. There best day in 10 years for one of them! They fished mid river with coho egg sacs, they won't let me say where or what color egg netting the sacs where tied in! Some things are best left unknown!!!! ;D Today was definetly a good day! The warmer weather from a couple days ago and today's sunshine is doing it's job!
Snagger, Do you want any Coho eggs if I get any tomorrow ? THE MAYOR
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Snagger, Do you want any Coho eggs if I get any tomorrow ? THE MAYOR
I could use few more coho eggs if you get some bud, no not the Maine Boys, another group of guys, you know them also!!!
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I could use few more coho eggs if you get some bud, no not the Maine Boys, another group of guys, you know them also!!!
Snagger, O.K. bud, I'll save Coho & Brownie eggs for you if I get any. See ya tomorrow bud. THE MAYOR
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Snagger, O.K. bud, I'll save Coho & Brownie eggs for you if I get any. See ya tomorrow bud. THE MAYOR
Hey Mayor, I just looked at the DSR report for the first time since Salmon Season, WOW, you'd think there was NO fish in the lower River the way they sound, didn't even update it yesterday. What's up with that, no wonder everybody is upRiver. There goes the Power of the Internet Theory, big pile of lonely Steelies down river! :w00t: If you feel up to it Mayor, we should raft the mid section of the River next week, theres probably a TON of lonely steelies there! Maybe Pineville to 2A!!!!! Just pumped up my WaterMaster today after raking leaves all day! See you tomorrow BUD!!!! :D
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YOU BOYS AREN'T LIFTING ARE YOU?????? ::) :whistling:--KP
Nope, SALMON SEASON IS OVER NOW ON THE SALMON RIVER!!
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to be honest snag if the power of the internet was the reason people would pack oswego river right now! my opinion it's better fishing and plenty of water with fish that are a lot less spooky .... my opinion i'd be tossing more nymphs and float fisherman could do well with minnows in this weather.... beads work on fish that can't close there mouths lol ....opinion and fresh browns and rainbows fall for them .....but my question is this if i'm going to run a bead and get hung up more why not just run a glo bug????? reason ....easier to lift a fish with a bead! again this is my opinion
If I didn't have so many chores to do before winter, I would love to be there right now, can't hit every run, got to keep food on the table! Catch some for me, I'll get my share SOON!!!! See ya later Burt! ;D
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Thanks Snagger for the PM!!
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Hey Mayor, Now that I think about it those boys might just try backing into Altmar!!
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Hey Mayor, I just looked at the DSR report for the first time since Salmon Season, WOW, you'd think there was NO fish in the lower River the way they sound, didn't even update it yesterday. What's up with that, no wonder everybody is upRiver. There goes the Power of the Internet Theory, big pile of lonely Steelies down river! :w00t: If you feel up to it Mayor, we should raft the mid section of the River next week, theres probably a TON of lonely steelies there! Maybe Pineville to 2A!!!!! Just pumped up my WaterMaster today after raking leaves all day! See you tomorrow BUD!!!! :D
Snagger, I'm going to start today at the lower end where I left off Monday. I only moved up river for a change scenery & to be close to you BUD. I'll fish where PUFFY & I were last weekend. Then move up to the Holy Land in Altmar. Talk to you later with a report. THE MAYOR
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Hey Mayor, Now that I think about it those boys might just try backing into Altmar!!
Bunker, I'll tell everyone in Altmar to move there vehicles if Moose is backing into town. THE MAYOR
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CLOSE CALL!!!! Lookout New England!!
There goes our 60 degree weather for the weekend, strong pressure gradient between the high and this Monster strorm should set up a horrible east wind, there goes my walleye fishing!
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Took a drive earlier, man are the creeks low, just about dried up, we need Rain bad for them!!!!
Dave on channel nine said only a few showers Sat-Sun- measurable rains East, then dry and Mild again next week!
What a mild and dry November this year and no Snow so far!!!
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Bunker, I'll tell everyone in Altmar to move there vehicles if Moose is backing into town. THE MAYOR
I'm not sure if Moose is going, the guys that are going thou will be looking for Puff Daddy I'm sure of that!!
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Hey Bunker when are you and Moose coming up? Your missing one of the BEST WEATHER NOVEMBERS EVER MAN!!! HEY THE WATERS LOW, BUT WHO CARES, THIS WEATHER KICKS BUTT MAN!! I hope it stays warm and dry the rest of the month! It's great , get up here!!!!!!!!!! :D The weathers so nice, I polished off a whole 12er of NA's yesterday!!!
Hey Flyswatter, did you see that picture of Fraisers with nobody in it yesterday?
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Hey Bunker when are you and Moose coming up? Your missing one of the BEST WEATHER NOVEMBERS EVER MAN!!! HEY THE WATERS LOW, BUT WHO CARES, THIS WEATHER KICKS BUTT MAN!! I hope it stays warm and dry the rest of the month! It's great , get up here!!!!!!!!!! :D The weathers so nice, I polished off a whole 12er of NA's yesterday!!!
Hey Flyswatter, did you see that picture of Fraisers with nobody in it yesterday?
soon I hope, soon!!!
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soon I hope, soon!!!
Man is it nice out, Sunny, no wind, in the 50's!!!! Working in a T-shirt, not as many guys up to bridge today as yesterday Bunker!! Catch ya later man, Say Hi to Mooseman for me.
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Man is it nice out, Sunny, no wind, in the 50's!!!! Working in a T-shirt, not as many guys up to bridge today as yesterday Bunker!! Catch ya later man, Say Hi to Mooseman for me.
down here today it's cold, windy, and wet. So you know I wish I was there!!!! you should be in third today as "TOP POSTERS"
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Yeah Snagger, I saw the picture. I cant get over the nice weather you are having IN THE MIDDLE OF NOVEMBER. Down here they are calling for 1 to 2" of rain and 40mph gusts in the next 24 hours.
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Another beautiful day on the Salmon River, in the 50's, no wind & great fishing. Plus I met a real nice guy from Central Square ( Joe). I'll see you monday joe have a great weekend & rest up. THE MAYOR
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excuse me mayor i never had the pleasure of meeting you but i really enjoy your post and pictures i know sooner or later we'll run into each other,guess i better carry a extra cup with my thermos :)
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Another good day of steelhead fishing by the guys staying here!
What a great stretch of sunny dry weather we have been having, fishing was good at all ends of the River today with most guys hooking up atleast 5 or 6 times, heres a pic from today.
Kevin from Maine holding a couple him & Wayne landed today!
They have been up all week and released everything until today, great fish guys! My camera battery died as I was taking these pictures, sorry Wayne!
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The "Mayor's" latest catch & release victim!!!
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Just looked at the latest computer models on that big storm. A new powerful Jet stream is going to pick it up and push it out to sea, not affecting us with anything other than a few clouds this weekend! GREAT!!!
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excuse me mayor i never had the pleasure of meeting you but i really enjoy your post and pictures i know sooner or later we'll run into each other,guess i better carry a extra cup with my thermos :)
Hi Trapper, Looking forward to meeting you & I'm glad you enjoy my posts & pictures. I also enjoy your posts as well. It's hard to believe we've never met' I've been fishing the Salmon River, Oswego River & many of the creeks for quite some time ( yrs & yrs ). I've known snagger since the early 90's & he's like the son I never had. Anyway, I had a full thermos of coffee with me today & no one to share it with. I carry an extra cup with me at all times. Good luck fishing. THE MAYOR
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Another beautiful day on the Salmon River, in the 50's, no wind & great fishing. Plus I met a real nice guy from Central Square ( Joe). I'll see you monday joe have a great weekend & rest up. THE MAYOR
Mayor it was nice meeting you as well today . Thanks for the tips today . I appreciate it, its nice meeting people that are willing to help and give thier knowledge to others. Ill be up monday for sure prob around 12 or 1pm have to finish up some loose ends with the biz after the wknd. see you then. Thanks again
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Big Numbers report: Got 2 guys left from a bigger group in the back cabin that fished the Pulaski pools today with egg sacs! Said it was non stop action with Dime bright chrome cookie cutter 8-10lbers! Between the 2 of them, they said they landed 23. I might have to ditch my Yard work for that kind of action, hope there still there for me next week! Heck with the Rain, EVERBODY is HAPPY with 335cfs!!!! Hey Joe Dirt, I forgot, one my guests caught and released a nice 10+lb. brown yesterday too! ;D
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Mayor it was nice meeting you as well today . Thanks for the tips today . I appreciate it, its nice meeting people that are willing to help and give thier knowledge to others. Ill be up monday for sure prob around 12 or 1pm have to finish up some loose ends with the biz after the wknd. see you then. Thanks again
Hey Creekchubjoe, I enjoy helping guys out & sharing info to better there success. Looking forward to monday. Hope your finger is feeling better,after trying to land that smokin chromer. Hoping monday will be your day to land a beautiful STEELHEAD. Your friend, THE MAYOR
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Joe Dirt loves those fattie Browns, Snagger... Especially the double-digit ones!
My buddy's been up there the past two days and had some good action too...
Said there were browns landed all over the place, and he got some nice ones himself. Stillwaiting for the pics to appear on my phone any minute now.
I will be creeping around your street tomorrow night after work.
Keep an eye out for the Mercedes with the Thomas & Thomas sticker on the back :P
(I'm kidding man. I noticed tonight that my truck will pass 200,000mi on the drive from Albany tomorrow night)
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Joe Dirt loves those fattie Browns, Snagger... Especially the double-digit ones!
My buddy's been up there the past two days and had some good action too...
Said there were browns landed all over the place, and he got some nice ones himself. Stillwaiting for the pics to appear on my phone any minute now.
I will be creeping around your street tomorrow night after work.
Keep an eye out for the Mercedes with the Thomas & Thomas sticker on the back :P
(I'm kidding man. I noticed tonight that my truck will pass 200,000mi on the drive from Albany tomorrow night)
When you get the pictures, put a few of them up, most of my guys have been releasing them and don't carry camera's! THANKS MAN!!!!!
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3 days and still no update at the DSR, are they closed for the season or just hogging all the fish!!!!! :w00t:
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Hay Snagger for got to call this week to tell you that I will be up tonight. See ya later!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)
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Hey Mayor Your spending allot of time up river, you better but your hodgemans back on!!!! That turn must be loaded?
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HEY MAYOR, how come you aren't out fishing yet?
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Snagger are Logan and the boys staying at your place?
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Another beautiful SUNNY and mild day ahead today!!! Been some cool starts though, 22.3 degrees yesterday and 19.3 degrees this morning, already up to 47 degrees now! The parking lot up at the bridge isn't too bad this morning, about half full! Yes Sir, talked to the Conn. boys last night Bunker. Even with the endless sunny mild days, were starting to loose ground on River temps now, Winters not far away for us!
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Hey Bunker, looked at the gauges last night, the Genesee is running at a perfect 960cfs, almost time to head out there again! Turns loaded alright, with people!!! It don't hold the fish it used to any way, after they built that rip rap rock dam across the left diversion above the bridge, that killed the turn. Most of the guys that fish the Turn, are lost fly fisherman guys that still remember the how good it was in the drought of 2007,and the lower Fly Zone was closed to protect the salmon! They found the " Turn" and have never left, but the fish have! :w00t:
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GREAT pics!!
Im going to try and get back up there next week, even if its only for a day or two... I NEED MORE!!! I normally start thinking about hunting this time of year but today was actually the first day ive sat in a stand so far this archery season, i just cant get those dam fish outta my head... I much rather freeze my a$$ off in the river then in a treestand for some reason. :-\
Snagger, you mentioned the water temp is going down, what is it at now?
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GREAT pics!!
Im going to try and get back up there next week, even if its only for a day or two... I NEED MORE!!! I normally start thinking about hunting this time of year but today was actually the first day ive sat in a stand so far this archery season, i just cant get those dam fish outta my head... I much rather freeze my a$$ off in the river then in a treestand for some reason. :-\
Snagger, you mentioned the water temp is going down, what is it at now?
Last time I checked it temporarily was up to 47, then dropped to 45, that was a couple of days ago!!! Remember what I said about hooks, have to change from our warm water mustad hooks to the charper Diachi's at 39 degrees! ;) ;)
Know what sucks, 5 years ago they started making my favorite wintertime hook in China! The Mustad 80200br Shrimp/caddis hook is now called co68 and made in China! Was forced to switch to the 1120 Diachi heavy scud for flies anyway! See you next week 007!!!! ;D
Hey Bunker here's your "Snorkel Hole" steelie!!!
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Last time I checked it temporarily was up to 47, then dropped to 45, that was a couple of days ago!!! Remember what I said about hooks, have to change from our warm water mustad hooks to the charper Diachi's at 39 degrees! ;) ;)
Know what sucks, 5 years ago they started making my favorite wintertime hook in China! The Mustad 80200br Shrimp/caddis hook is now called co68 and made in China! Was forced to switch to the 1120 Diachi heavy scud for flies anyway! See you next week 007!!!! ;D
Hey Bunker here's your "Snorkel Hole" steelie!!!
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Your really trying to tell me something, aren't you SNAGGER
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Your really trying to tell me something, aren't you SNAGGER
Looked in my diaries, 2 days ago last year was the Snorkel Hole day!
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Looks like ill be up Wedesday, possibly into thursday...
Hopefully i get can get clearance from the worden to stay overnight again! ;D My luck ill end up having to bring her.. ::)
Im going to do my best this week on getting some fresh backstraps to bring up with me!! Maybe have a surf and turf with that DELICIOUS walleye you made!!!!! :thumbup_smilie:
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Early Steelhead report: Had some more new guys fishing the upper River, they are still watching and learning as we speak! Wayne from Maine went 1 for 9 on steelies, only his 4th full day of steelie fishing! Took a drive and as usual the lower fly and the Altmar Bridge were mobbed, but other area's of the upper River were very comfortable. Heard the Mayor and Puffy were into them again! Have more reports as people return later this evening!
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HEY MAYOR, how come you aren't out fishing yet?
Hey Bunker, I was out fishing when you contacted me, I left the computer on. According to my records, your snorkel hole steelhead was caught on nov. 14 :clapping: :thumbup_smilie: :bowdown: Moose & I have fished that day together the last 3 yrs with great success. THE MAYOR
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Early Steelhead report: Had some more new guys fishing the upper River, they are still watching and learning as we speak! Wayne from Maine went 1 for 9 on steelies, only his 4th full day of steelie fishing! Took a drive and as usual the lower fly and the Altmar Bridge were mobbed, but other area's of the upper River were very comfortable. Heard the Mayor and Puffy were into them again! Have more reports as people return later this evening!
Snagger, Puffy & I had a very good day fishing where Bunker looks for them underwater. Wish Bunker was here to give me an exact count on how many are in the hole. Bunker, where are you when we need you ? Theres new chrome up river, got into them pretty good. THE MAYOR
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Hey Mayor this is one that my son Chris landed on a 5wt fly rod with one of your stoneflies.
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Hey Bunker, I was out fishing when you contacted me, I left the computer on. According to my records, your snorkel hole steelhead was caught on nov. 14 :clapping: :thumbup_smilie: :bowdown: Moose & I have fished that day together the last 3 yrs with great success. THE MAYOR
I knew it was just about the same time!!! The Connecticut boys got off to a good start, I told Logan to try that turn first but to each his own, he was the only one of the three that didn't hook up!!!I now were I would have went for a swim if I was there :flex: :flex
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hey MAYOR send Snagger the play by play swimming lesson pic's, I'm having a hard time posting pic's
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Hey guys I see that you have been doing well up there! I have to make it up there next week before Gun season starts! Oswego has been great but I like the Salmon better to look at.
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Hey Mayor this is one that my son Chris landed on a 5wt fly rod with one of your stoneflies.
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Hey Wiredstone, It's funny you mentioned the Stoneflies, I just finished tying 3 doz for Wayne from Maine. He' been hitting them big time from dark to dark, plus the weather is unbelievable. Best November I can remember. THE MAYOR
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Copper and copper bead stones, that's what I was told!
Hey
FISHING JASON YOUR PM BOX IS FULL!!!!!!!!!
Hey Mayor, Puffy's on his way, he's been BSing with the Russians!!!!
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Hey Wiredstone, It's funny you mentioned the Stoneflies, I just finished tying 3 doz for Wayne from Maine. He' been hitting them big time from dark to dark, plus the weather is unbelievable. Best November I can remember. THE MAYOR
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My black felios caddis have been working too. But you make some real nice flies. See you on the river.
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hey Snagger could you send Logan home with a small amount of egg's for me? theres a spot in the river where I walk my dog down here, where I'd like to try some at.
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Hey Bunker, I was out fishing when you contacted me, I left the computer on. According to my records, your snorkel hole steelhead was caught on nov. 14 :clapping: :thumbup_smilie: :bowdown: Moose & I have fished that day together the last 3 yrs with great success. THE MAYOR
I know, I drove Moose up each year
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Copper and copper bead stones, that's what I was told!
Hey
FISHING JASON YOUR PM BOX IS FULL!!!!!!!!!
Hey Mayor, Puffy's on his way, he's been BSing with the Russians!!!!
Snagger, Puffy sounded like he was doing more than BSing with the Russians. Just hope he can stay between the lines. Talk to you later BUD. THE MAYOR
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I know, I drove Moose up each year
Bunker, That's what PUFFY needs right now, a driver. THE MAYOR
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Bunker, That's what PUFFY needs right now, a driver. THE MAYOR
a little ruff around the edges today???? ::) ::) ::)
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Hey Bunker, I was out fishing when you contacted me, I left the computer on. According to my records, your snorkel hole steelhead was caught on nov. 14 :clapping: :thumbup_smilie: :bowdown: Moose & I have fished that day together the last 3 yrs with great success. THE MAYOR
Hey Mayor, be careful leaving your computer on, that's how someone else we know here wound up logging on 61 plus days here in less than a year!!
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hey MAYOR send Snagger the play by play swimming lesson pic's, I'm having a hard time posting pic's
Bunker, I sent snagger the play by play of your swimming lessons a couple of days ago. THE MAYOR
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Late Report: Just to show I don't just report when the fishing is Good or you think I'm Bsing you, those guys that landed 23 fish yesterday in the pools in pulaski today went back there and did nothing, tryed just above there and nothing again! Had to come upRiver. They moved threw!!! Hey bunker the conn. boys hooked up pretty good today, alot of traffic around tonight, could be CROWDED tomorrow!!! Have fun out there guys! ;D
Mayer those pic's were very blurry!!!!!!
MONSTER STORM TEARING UP THE MID ATLANTIC!
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Hey Snagger, let the CT boys know that they wont be missing anything at home , It's cold, windy, wet, and just plain crappie here today!!! Wish I was there!!!
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Late Report: Just to show I don't just report when the fishing is Good or you think I'm Bsing you, those guys that landed 23 fish yesterday in the pools in pulaski today went back there and did nothing, tryed just above there and nothing again! Had to come upRiver. They moved threw!!! Hey bunker the conn. boys hooked up pretty good today, alot of traffic around tonight, could be CROWDED tomorrow!!! Have fun out there guys! ;D
Mayer those pic's were very blurry!!!!!!
Snagler, Something probably happened to them in there flight to Altmar. THE MAYOR
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Hey Mayor, be careful leaving your computer on, that's how someone else we know here wound up logging on 61 plus days here in less than a year!!
That aint nothing, from my 21st birthday til I stopped going to Bars in the winter of 2007, I never missed a friday night out, thats 976 Fridays alone, imagine if I included all the other days at the bar bunker! :o :o :o :o Just a slight computer problem( actually learning alot fun things), getting ready for a big break though! Catch ya later bunker!!!
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hey snag!! that weather system look's identical to the perfect storm im steaming to the flemish cap boy's catch ya on the flip side :rotflol: :rotflol: :w00t:
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Over 60,000 readers and still no signs of slowing down!!!!! YOU ROCK SNAGGER!!!! FISH ON!!!
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hey snag!! that weather system look's identical to the perfect storm im steaming to the flemish cap boy's catch ya on the flip side :rotflol: :rotflol: :w00t:
You defietlly got a way with words Crappiekiller, Won't be long!! :w00t: Hey KP when you and your son going to come up and put on Another "CLINIC" and show these boys how to hook into some STEEL!!!
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That ain't nothing, from my 21st birthday til I stopped going to Bars in the winter of 2007, I never missed a Friday night out, that's 976 Fridays alone, imagine if I included all the other days at the bar bunker! :o :o :o :o Just a slight computer problem( actually learning alto fun things), getting ready for a big break though! Catch ya later bunker!!!
Hey SNAGGER, can you imagine what the number of days would look like that Moose and I spent in a bar????? Some people would mistake it for a long-distance phone number :flex: :flex: :flex: and his number is still going up, but not as fast as when we were tag team drunks. Sometimes I still miss those days ::) ::)Ive been sober for over 13 years now and that number still wouldn't be close!!!
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Over 60,000 readers and still no signs of slowing down!!!!! YOU ROCK SNAGGER!!!! FISH ON!!!
He needs to change that 09 to 10 and keep things going!!!
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I just Came from 3 Spots, had some coffee, talked to some fishermen, BSed with a couple old timers and wittnessed the Most Steelies Hooked in an hours time that I've seen in years, man are the guys on the River lighting them up today. Doubles, triples, sometimes 4 on at once!!! Alot of smiling faces, especially the youngster running around trying to net all the steelies being hooked! I had an great time just watching it from the bank! GREAT TIMES MAN!!!!! ;D Maybe I'll post some Pic's Monday, wouldn't want to ruin these guys weekend! It's Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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snagger you around give me a call
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hey after this year do you think theres any uneducated people left that think salmon hit????? :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
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snagger you around give me a call
What's up trapper, you should see the 6 year old running around netting everyone's steelies, it died out for a while, then the Sun came back out, it was like someone turned a light switch on, the "BLITZ" is on again, I'm having RIOT just watching everyone! Hey I called you FlyFrogger, no answer!!!! Headin back to the River to Chill & have a few NA's! ;D
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love to see days like that :) good to see guys smiling
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hey after this year do you think theres any uneducated people left that think salmon hit????? :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
They don't hit?? I like the tail hit! lol. Trap Deer down?? Hope to drop my Beast next weekend!
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After talking to Everybody staying here: It was pretty much the same story in alot of places on the River, Bigtime hookups, definitely one of the better weekends in a while, great weather and Tons of fish all over!!!! 95% of ours were released! Got some more great Pic's for Monday!!! Give em Hell Boys!!!
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He needs to change that 09 to 10 and keep things going!!!
Sounds like a great idea!!!Tightlines Bunker!!--KP :)
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hey after this year do you think theres any uneducated people left that think salmon hit????? :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
YOU MEAN THEY DON'T????? AWWW MAN!!!--KP ;D
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Hey Oneidawalleye need some Apricot beads, do you make them in a swirl, like with white in them! seems theres a few different types of Apricot, which I call the "dead Egg"!! Would like to see your selection! WOW, UNBELIEVABLE day fishing today, I can't get over how good it was, hope tomorrow is Half as good!
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Hey Snagger, yes I do make a mottled dead egg in both light cream and apricot. The steelhead fishing has been like the 1980's!
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Hey Snagger, yes I do make a mottled dead egg in both light cream and apricot. The steelhead fishing has been like the 1980's!
The last 3 years it has been like the 80's, but the river had slowed down up til tuesday, now IT'S ON FIRE!!! again like the 3rd week of October! That cream color was the one I'm thinking of, I think, in the bigger size!
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WOW Long range Forcast: Mid day sun and Low 60's Sunday, Absolutely no rain til atleast next Sunday and well above temps ALL WEEK, maybe back to 60 by next weekend!!!!! NICE!!!!!!!!! :w00t:
Good week to play hooky and get into some of these good pockets of steelies through out the River!
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WOW Long range Forcast: Mid day sun and Low 60's Sunday, Absolutely no rain til atleast next Sunday and well above temps ALL WEEK, maybe back to 60 by next weekend!!!!! NICE!!!!!!!!! :w00t:
Good week to play hooky and get into some of these good pockets of steelies through out the River!
I really dont need any convincing to take time off from work, its been bad lately.. Everytime i see new pics posted i little piece of me dies inside...
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I was thinking about cooking up some brown trout i have in he freezer for tomarrow and was thinking. Ya know its Ironic that we have one of the greatest fisherys in the world.. "the salmon river and great lakes" and yet its SO POLLUTED due to humans and our mistakes.. great fishing though! Browsing through the Health advisory section in the regulations guide is kinda depressing. Just another example of how something can be to good to be true. Just figured id stick in my two cents :) food for thought, Kinda sad. we suck...
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Sounds like your going through vitamin D Deficiency need to get in the out in the sun and do some fishing man! Don't always believe everything you read, depends on how you clean your fish, when Cornell or the state did those studies, they shred the whole fish up in a blender, we fillet our fish, throw away the bellie fat, cut out the red line and things of that nature. I got a guest who stays here who has been eating chinook salmon forever, he'll be 89 next month, strong as a bull! Everthing in moderation, probably more mercury & pcb's in Tuna! Cheer up dude, get busy fishin man!!!
Another wonderful partly Sunny & warm morning!!!
Heres that powerful Jet Streak that pushed that storm off the coast!
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Hey Snagger, I herd from Logan that there doing great and I shouldn't post all over the site where there fishing, TELL HIM I TOLD EVERYONE THAT THERE FISHING IN THE SALMON RIVER
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hey, might finally be able to come up this afternoon. been away from fishing for way too long. any tips on where to go and what to use?
thanks a ton
fishman
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hey, might finally be able to come up this afternoon. been away from fishing for way too long. any tips on where to go and what to use?
thanks a ton
fishman
First light egg sacs or beads under a float, 10AM on, bottom bounce egg flies or stones(copper back been hot) sometimes an evening float bite too, not always though! Water being at a lower level 4-6lb test, #6-10 hooks. !! GOOD LUCK FISHMAN
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thanks snag
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any place in particular better?
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any place in particular better?
They have been hanging in the tight runs with lots of Current up here in Altmar, I'm sure there in all the tight fast runs from my house to the Lake. When it gets a little colder they'll start settling into the schoolhouse pool and other softer areas! I finally broke the rod out today, fished from 1PM til 3:30 ended up going 1 for 7 on, hard to land those tanks on 4lb. line, what A BLAST I HAD, saw plenty of fish hooked all around me as well. All bottom bouncers, never seen a float go under! Not alot of people around this afternoon like yesterday, had lots of room to fish!
Me and my Buddy Wayne from the state of Maine with his biggest steelie of the week!
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Heres an action shot of 3 steelies on at the same time Saturday,
don't know any of them, but they were having a riot
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Upper River Bonanaza!!!
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I thought you had Orvis waders Mayor? ;D
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Whats up snagger you been up to oneida at all, noticed its been terrible wind direction the past week. Easy to tell cuz I hunt on a big hill with windmills so if they face west then i go to oneida and they havent in atleast a week. So steelies are on fire maybe I can make it up sumtime this week you up for a little river lesson from the addict. Give me a shout... Still working the working the woods hard got my eye on a few nice bucks just cant seem to stickum
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Whats up snagger you been up to oneida at all, noticed its been terrible wind direction the past week. Easy to tell cuz I hunt on a big hill with windmills so if they face west then i go to oneida and they havent in atleast a week. So steelies are on fire maybe I can make it up sumtime this week you up for a little river lesson from the addict. Give me a shout... Still working the working the woods hard got my eye on a few nice bucks just cant seem to stickum
Got the rust out of my noodle rod today and figured out where every snag is, that's new from last year in a Run I like to fish, probably going to go check out another Run tomorrow to figure out where the new snags are in that one as well, hopefully hook a few more steelies in the process! Great weather, talked to alot of the same faces I see every year. These fish aint going nowhere, got time to get your deer! Now the Lessons your going to give me, that's another story all together! GET A BIG BUCK!!!! Someday the winds will set up, and we can go walleye fishing again! Catch ya later man!!!
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Thanks snagger, I got out fishing today and im feeling much better HAHA Just what the doctor ordered
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Glad to hear it Vogel!!!!!
For all of you people who like to research data, noticed an interesting factoid while looking at USGS sites! The year we had the Devastating salmon season "Drought", the water level for today at the pineville gauge was 2200cfs in 2007!!! Also in 99 the worst steelhead Run I can ever remember, the Fall of 99, today, back then the water was at 185cfs or 233cfs at the Pineville gauge. You Ice fisherman will also remember that was the 99-00 Winter that Oneida Lake never froze the entire winter! If History Repeats itself( I hope it doesn't as an Ice Fisherman) we will fill the Big Res. this winter with snowmelts and winter rainfalls, Until then, 100 bucks says it goes to 285 soon!!! We'll see!!!!
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Glad to hear it Vogel!!!!!
For all of you people who like to research data, noticed an interesting factoid while looking at USGS sites! The year we had the Devastating salmon season "Drought", the water level for today at the pineville gauge was 2200cfs in 2007!!! Also in 99 the worst steelhead Run I can ever remember, the Fall of 99, today, back then the water was at 185cfs or 233cfs at the Pineville gauge. You Ice fisherman will also remember that was the 99-00 Winter that Oneida Lake never froze the entire winter! If History Repeats itself( I hope it doesn't as an Ice Fisherman) we will fill the Big Res. this winter with snowmelts and winter rainfalls, Until then, 100 bucks says it goes to 285 soon!!! We'll see!!!!
Snagger, I just finished curing another batch of brownie eggs this morning for you, I'll drop them off later. Right now I'm on recharge. Seeyou later BUD. THE MAYOR
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Hey Snagger, When I fish in the big city of Pulaski I wear my ORVIS waders & when I fish in Altmar I'm dropped off so no one sees my Lexus & I wear my Hodgeman waders. By the way, is that a Gary Loomis hat your wearing ? THE MAYOR
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Hey Snagger, When I fish in the big city of Pulaski I wear my ORVIS waders & when I fish in Altmar I'm dropped off so no one sees my Lexus & I wear my Hodgeman waders. By the way, is that a Gary Loomis hat your wearing ? THE MAYOR
It's getting bad Mayor, with everything made in china now, even my redneck @ss is using St. Croix's, Cortlands and G Loomis stuff now, after looking at that picture, even went in and shaved!! ;D Might have to buy a pair of Simms, my waders leaked yesterday, got to buy Made in The USA!!!! Don't worry still drive a couple of old rusty Fords though!! ;D
NEWS FLASH, theres a chance of RAIN on Friday!!!
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Me and my Buddy Wayne from the state of Maine with his biggest steelie of the week!
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How long is Wayne and the Maine boys staying up? Would love to see them again!!!!
We had one hell of a time last year in the diversions!!
Tell them all i said hi!!
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How long is Wayne and the Maine boys staying up? Would love to see them again!!!!
We had one hell of a time last year in the diversions!!
Tell them all i said hi!!
Just Wayne, he's been up for a week, good way to learn the River, works a different spot everyday! He's running a noodle rod and fly rod with fly line, changes up everyday!!!
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NICE!!!
Is he gonna be there Wed? Hopefully he is!
Tell him that the safety instructor is coming and we NEED to have an Safety meeting ASAP!! ;D ;)
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While everyone was chasing Chrome up and down the river, some buddies and I stalked nice Browns all weekend. Some of them were in surprisingly fast water for this late in the spawn.
But they were hungry and were tackling small patterns in spurts all weekend.
Some small 'lulls' in the action now and then- but pretty steady shots for two days straight.
What a tremendous weekend to be outside enjoying "the other Fall colors"!
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Very nice Browns.. Love the big old hook jaw... Congratulations.......... :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
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Thanks Dacker... Some of the bigger Browns were actually showing some SPEED this weekend!
I don't typically think of them as speed-demons compared to the Steelies- but a few of these fish really covered some water, even with the drags buckled-down as much as we could handle on light tippet.
This trout surely wasn't the biggest, but in my mind it was easily the prettiest I've ever caught:
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While more than a few guys might be upset to hear this- every fish was released and swam away like a ROCKET... It almost seemed as though they enjoyed the 'exercise' we gave them all weekend.
Man- those Brownies just don't get the respect they deserve!!!
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Thanks Dacker... Some of the bigger Browns were actually showing some SPEED this weekend!
I don't typically think of them as speed-demons compared to the Steelies- but a few of these fish really covered some water, even with the drags buckled-down as much as we could handle on light tippet.
This trout surely wasn't the biggest, but in my mind it was easily the prettiest I've ever caught:
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While more than a few guys might be upset to hear this- every fish was released and swam away like a ROCKET... It almost seemed as though they enjoyed the 'exercise' we gave them all weekend.
Man- those Brownies just don't get the respect they deserve!!!
WOW!!!!! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: WOW!!!!!!
:bowdown: :w00t: TOTALLY AWESOME MAN!!!!! GREAT JOB!!!! YOU THE MAN!!!! :bowdown: :w00t:
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Went across the street today from 1PM til 3:30 again, Improved my numbers a little landed 4 for 10 on the steel, plus 1 brownie! Some bombs too, couple over 12lbs and Chrome!!!! Saw plenty of hook ups all around me again!!! A little cooler out today, but still nice and Sunny, wanted to fish the "Barrel", but that was still locked up when I walked out, they must have been tearing them up! What a spectacular November we are having, it's just Awesome Man!!!!! ;D Catch ya later! Hey Jimmy tell Big Red Shane says HI!!!!
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Hey to that guy who was fishing across from me who lives in Pulaski, thanks for that flie I got out of the steelheads mouth you lost earlier, I'm tieing some up right now, your Irishmen are in trouble tomorrow !!!! Great times man, had a blast fishing with you guys!!!! ;D
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Hey Snagger,
Here is one that my Steelhead teacher caught on Saturday..Tell me if this place look familiar... :laugh:
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Oh Ya, HOLY COW, NOW THAT IS A BIG HEN!!!!!! See alot of big bucks, that's one the biggest hens I've seen in a while! GREAT JOB!!!!!! ;D
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Beats the one I got last week at Oswego by 5lbs!!! He's happy! He landed five that morning and kept her for the smoker!! Have you ever seen him up there? He like the Wire hole in the winter..
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He looks real famillar, I fish the Wires alot in the winter, had a few friends fishing where that picture was taken on Saturday Too!!! ;D
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Snagger,
I need steelhead and Rainbow photos to make a movie for the website.. I can pull them off of photobucket right?
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Snagger,
I need steelhead and Rainbow photos to make a movie for the website.. I can pull them off of photobucket right?
Go ahead!!! Civil War by Guns N Roses would be a cool back ground song!!!
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i was thinking lets have the first ever altmaroutfitters steelhead and bs tourneyment =)) get a bunch of use and hit the river it would be a good time
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i was thinking lets have the first ever altmaroutfitters steelhead and bs tourneyment =)) get a bunch of use and hit the river it would be a good time
TRAPPER, where you been OLE BoY? We'd definettly win The BSing part, got a little more rust out of my rods today, it's all comin back now. I got a bunch of guys this weekend having a Mini tourney, I host one for the Boys every winter in February, good fun!!!
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hey jimmy nice pictures and nice fish ....bravo to you and your buddys
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I got them...Your going to laugh when you hear the song...lol.. :laugh: Just think of the muppet movie...
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Hey Snagger, Finally found Wayne this morning downtown, he went up & I went down. Caught 2 nice male browns & 2 steehead in the 10 lb class in the a.m. Later in the day I went to my wave, nothing, walked up to the rock pile & found some real nice steelhead , went 3 for 5, then went to Old Joe's hole found 2 more steelhead landed 1. Beautiful day fishing , weather was alittle cooler. Tell Wayne to give me a call tonight. THE MAYOR
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Hey Snagger, Finally found Wayne this morning downtown, he went up & I went down. Caught 2 nice male browns & 2 steehead in the 10 lb class in the a.m. Later in the day I went to my wave, nothing, walked up to the rock pile & found some real nice steelhead , went 3 for 5, then went to Old Joe's hole found 2 more steelhead landed 1. Beautiful day fishing , weather was alittle cooler. Tell Wayne to give me a call tonight. THE MAYOR
hey mayor i know you the am. means at the crack of noon.
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hey mayor i know you the am. means at the crack of noon.
Hey big bobber, I guess you don't really know me. THE MAYOR
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if you were out befor noon you must of been with puff puff pass :w00t: :bowdown: :clapping:
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if you were out befor noon you must of been with puff puff pass :w00t: :bowdown: :clapping:
Big Bobber, Wrong again, 0 for 2 :nono: THE MAYOR
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Hey Snagger, Finally found Wayne this morning downtown, he went up & I went down. Caught 2 nice male browns & 2 steehead in the 10 lb class in the a.m. Later in the day I went to my wave, nothing, walked up to the rock pile & found some real nice steelhead , went 3 for 5, then went to Old Joe's hole found 2 more steelhead landed 1. Beautiful day fishing , weather was alittle cooler. Tell Wayne to give me a call tonight. THE MAYOR
When's the last time you talked to old Joe, haven't heard from him in a while. Hope the Ole Boy is doin good. Glad you had a good day, looks like your not the only one gettin into some nice Brownies!!! Me and Wayne split a Large Steffano's sausage & mushroom pizza and half gallon of moosetracks, last thing I remember was 2 1/2 men, then the weather was on at 11PM, he's still in the Recliner, The Conn. boys had another Banner day , said one of there best trips in years too! Seems like everbody likes the 335cfs, I was actually suprised how much fun it was! Just had to down size alot to figure out the rock/line snags up my way. Alot of good FUN people fishing in Altmar last few days, went 2 days straight without getting into an arguement, could be a new Salmon River record for me! Fishin so good, even the grumpy guys are happy, then again I don't fish the "Gauntlet" in AM, crack of noon as Big Bobber Down would say! Also put a timberland Fleece hoodie, G Loomis hat, and LL Bean wading jacket on, maybe I just blend in now!! ;D Oh almost forgot, a guy above me took a water temp on Sunday, it was 47 degrees again! Catch ya later bud!
Good frost on the pumpkin tonight, 21 degrees at 1 AM, good meteor show in the sky too!
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Got a question, read the gauges for the Genesee, see it's at 669cfs, How do you know if theres water going over the Falls? Only like fishing under the Falls, not below the Turbines! Is there anyway to know this information? Any Web Cams? THANKS!!!
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Well here is the new video..lol...try not to laugh to hard...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT-ACSmXp88 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT-ACSmXp88)
Carpie a great collection of photo's and narration, but please change that Background Music, I had to turn the volume down!!!! PLEASE!!!! Carpie, the Carpenters!!! :'(
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thats the only Rainbow song that I could find...lol... I'll change it to Metal gods..I'll pull the post..
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thats the only Rainbow song that I could find...lol... I'll change it to Metal gods..I'll pull the post..
Thanks Carpie, you got to show me how to do that! I've been downloading TONS of 80's rock lately, burned alot of Brain cells in the 90's, having a hard time remembering all the bands in that era! :w00t: Being that I'm still up with insomnia, first drift boat went in the River at 4:58, second one at 5:03AM, legal fishing time is after 6:30, talk about a jumpstart down the River!!! Give em hell boys, she's cold out there this morning, 21 degrees on my thermometer at 5 am!!
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Snagger,
The 90's really sucked for music anyways... :D Trust me I was in a Metal band and we could do poop!
Now its all coming back the good stuff!!! I am going up there for sure tomorrow to fish. Do you have windows movie maker on your computer?? How old is your Machine? I think that they all do as long as you have XP and or higher..
The 90's..humm.. I spend a lot of time in the schoolhouse hole back then... 12foot leaders and #10 wet fly hooks and a dark blue fly..Always hooked them in the mouth..Hummm????
When I was in the band back then, KP is going to love this. We used to play pull me under,anything Queensryche and fates warning, Judas Priest,Dio, Black Sabbath then Seattle hit and we went into the $hitter!
Came back 6 years ago and just played the covers and we did very well,might do that again.
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You been up all night too? Yep got Movie maker, just checked! 4th drift boat just put in! I had a hard time accepting the Seattle sound at first, then got into it later! Bands like Bush, Alice/chains and others later! Who sang black hole sun? Hey Soxfan when you coming up? 12 foot leaders, the good ole days, not all those fish were lined!! Hey Carpie I was running a bunch of flies today after some egg sacs, no lead above 4 feet, no lift at the end of my swing, the only flies they would touch was in pink sparkle! I'm pretty sure they were on the bite, you can line fish with any fly if you know what your doing! Some of My egg sacs were pink too! Almost time To start tieing marabou jigs!
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You been up all night too? Yep got Movie maker, just checked! 4th drift boat just put in! I had a hard time accepting the Seattle sound at first, then got into it later! Bands like Bush, Alice/chains and others later! Who sang black hole sun? Hey Soxfan when you coming up? 12 foot leaders, the good ole days, not all those fish were lined!! Hey Carpie I was running a bunch of flies today after some egg sacs, no lead above 4 feet, no lift at the end of my swing, the only flies they would touch was in pink sparkle! I'm pretty sure they were on the bite, you can line fish with any fly if you know what your doing! Some of My egg sacs were pink too! Almost time To start tieing marabou jigs!
hey Snagger, soundgarden sang blackhole sun!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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hey Snagger, soundgarden sang blackhole sun!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quick funny story, I was in the Army in stationed in Korea in 1994 when Superunknown came out from Soundgarden. The barracks I lived in was a 4 or 5 story building, as I was walking up the stairs to the top floor toget to my room, EVERY floor had the song Blackhole Sun playing on it. No they werent listening to the same radio station hahah it was just so popular that everyone was playing that CD.
2 more days until I am up there!
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That is so strange.. I woke up last night singing that song in my head.....
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Hey Soxfan when you coming up?
hey shane! keith just got back from hunting his farm out west. We are looking at making plans soon, may be this sunday/monday. We were thinking about waiting for rain?????
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hey shane! keith just got back from hunting his farm out west. We are looking at making plans soon, may be this sunday/monday. We were thinking about waiting for rain?????
Don't do that, could snow before we ever get any rain of consequence that would do anything to the creeks and Rivers!
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You been up all night too? Yep got Movie maker, just checked! 4th drift boat just put in! I had a hard time accepting the Seattle sound at first, then got into it later! Bands like Bush, Alice/chains and others later! Who sang black hole sun? Hey Soxfan when you coming up?Hey Carpie I was running a bunch of flies today after some egg sacs, no lead above 4 feet, no lift at the end of my swing, the only flies they would touch was in pink sparkle!Some of My egg sacs were pink too! Almost time To start tieing marabou jigs!
Good knowing that you have that stuff!! I can get you started! I still think that the 1990's sucked!!.... :P
Pink a good start thanks Snagger!
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Quick question:
Any 'expert' ideas on what this hawg might weigh?
It never hit any scale (none of them did), but I am wondering if this tubby dude passed 15lbs...
Who couldn't love an ugly mug like this guy?
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By looking at the girth of the tail with your hands around it, and your fingers are not out proportion for the picture. Could go 17lbs, I would say a solid 15lber at least, hard to really tell how wide the shoulders are from a picture, I've caught solid 17lb males out of Maxwell that didn't look that good in a picture!!! So who knows, hell of a fish anyway you look at it!
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(Dude, good photos are the key!)
I get pretty ticked when people gripe about guys wanting to snap a few photos of trophy fish. I read a few posts about it previously and just smirked to myself that fly rodders 'were to blame'. You really think a fly guy is fighting a 10+lb fish any longer than anyone else using 5lb test leader? Come ON!?!?
I bet a skilled guy with a 8wt can whip a solid fish every bit as fast as a guy with a noodle or pinner.
Once you take a lot of fish photos, after awhile you definately get to know how to hold the fish and get nice shots in a hearbeat. Like five seconds, really. The type of rods a guy is using has ZERO influence on how he treats his fish or whether he 'takes too long' with photos. I've seen some pretty bad abuse among EVERYONE on that river!
You will notice the water dripping from every fish photographed. HOLD THOSE HAWGS IN THE WATER until you and your camera-buddy are ready!!! Then lift the fish gently and quickly, snap off four or five good shots with the digital, and let 'er go.
It is easy on the fish, and easy on the guy holding an angry wriggler!
Snagger, you know how I love those big-shouldered browns! All shiny and upset off!!!
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Keeping them close to the water makes for sweet shots, too:
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The key is to have the guy with the camer take a step before each time he hits the shutter. Go up, go down, and keep the fish close to the water for the best image and effect. That way each photo is a little different and you can choose the one that you like the best. Taking ten shots from the same location is senseless with digitals.
'Size' means nothing to us, at least. Its the detail of a giant kype, or a tiny fly in the jaw of a ginormous trout.
Browns are the Prettiest fish outside of saltwater in my opinion.
The bigger and more ridiculous the schnoz, the better!
It isn't about "holding it out" and making it look big or anything. For me it's really about keeping the attention on the FISH and not the silly grin of the angler. It's the FISH that's important after all, right? :D
(For the record- that monster was not my fish, but my buddy's from the weekend. Mine maxed out around ten or eleven pounds. I wish we had measured the girth on that big one pictured but didn't want to stress the fish.)
But again, all our fish were released UNHARMED to have more giant babies for us all.
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Hey Mayor, Whats the report???
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By looking at the girth of the tail with your hands around it, and your fingers are not out proportion for the picture. Could go 17lbs, I would say a solid 15lber at least, hard to really tell how wide the shoulders are from a picture, I've caught solid 17lb males out of Maxwell that didn't look that good in a picture!!! So who knows, hell of a fish anyway you look at it!
Snagger, I saw Jimmy land that Brown, one beautiful fish. Caught quite a few Browns there myself, great spot. THE MAYOR
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Snagger,
The new Rainbow and steelhead Video is on its way!! It take forever to upload to youtube..Hours!!! I should have it up and running before 9pm I hope! I'll be up there in the Am. I am going to fish low LB and work my way up from there.. I don't like to fish past 10am so you'll see me around then..
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Hey Bunker, Did'nt fish this morning, had to wait till afternoon to make BIG BOPPER DOWN happy, instead I went to B.S. with Snagger for awhile & tied a few flies for him. I booted up around 2 hooked a few real nice Chromers & another giant male brown in the secret spot. THE MAYOR
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hey Snagger, soundgarden sang blackhole sun!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Creekchubjoe, Sorry I did'nt get to see you yesterday, I fished the lower end of the river in the morning & again in the afternnon. Caught some beautiful Browns & Steelhead. Hope to see you soon. THE MAYOR
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SIMPLECARPPIE, Your right KP did love it!! I myself played drums through the 80's and played the similiar music you played!! That music still today keeps me pumped when I'm working!! Makes the day go by faster!! While working at SNAGGERS a few weeks back, we had the HAIR NATION CRANKING!! SNAGGER and I were reminiscing about the old days at the concerts we went to!! Those were the days!!! ROCK ON BOYS AND TIGHTLINES!!!!! KP
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You been up all night too? Yep got Movie maker, just checked! 4th drift boat just put in! I had a hard time accepting the Seattle sound at first, then got into it later! Bands like Bush, Alice/chains and others later! Who sang black hole sun? Hey Soxfan when you coming up? 12 foot leaders, the good ole days, not all those fish were lined!! Hey Carpie I was running a bunch of flies today after some egg sacs, no lead above 4 feet, no lift at the end of my swing, the only flies they would touch was in pink sparkle! I'm pretty sure they were on the bite, you can line fish with any fly if you know what your doing! Some of My egg sacs were pink too! Almost time To start tieing marabou jigs!
Hey SNAGGER!!, Don't you ever sleep????? :sleep1:--KP ;D
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Hey Creekchubjoe, Sorry I did'nt get to see you yesterday, I fished the lower end of the river in the morning & again in the afternnon. Caught some beautiful Browns & Steelhead. Hope to see you soon. THE MAYOR
Hi Mayor, Im going up tommorrow morning around 8am. If ur out and want to meet up get a hold of me tonight on here. prob be up there till 2pm have to work tommorrow night.
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One hour left until....the MFF Rainbow connection!! With the new song..lol.. ;D
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I just figured out something, Me and Wayne just finished dinner and I said I got to see how the Boys made out today or what there talking about! Back when I drank always stopped off at the bar most days after work or fishing, the computer has become My Bar Room! I just REALLY enjoyed reading all of you guys stories, felt like I was there! Next time I see Trap on Here I'm going to yell out Hey NORM!!!! Like from "Cheers"!!! Well had to make an elaborate tackle order that took 3 hours to prepare, so got a late start Steelie fishing, fished from 3;45 til 5:00pm, landed 1 for 3 on the steel and landed another nice brownie! All were released again, saw about half dozen other ones hooked, Speaking of the 80's, fished with an old friend I hadn't fished with since the 80's, had fun again Jason Wilson, your still the "man" and your friends have made me laugh everytime I've come down to the River this week. GOOD TIMES MAN!!! GOOD TIMES!!
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Only a few more days of bow season... But the winds have changed when you thinking of heading down snag? I am meeting wiredstone either on thursday or friday. Give me a shout I got the itch to hit up the river real soon. Wana plan a day when you can go out so we can put to rest all the smack talk. ;D And maybe dave wants sum lessons too
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Awsome pictures Jimmy I second that on browns being the prettiest fish in fresh water. Gotta love the colors with a big old hook jaw. Always wanted to mount a solid fish!
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Always wanted to mount a hairy fish!
Jeez addict, this is a rated G website! :cookoo: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol:
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Wana plan a day when you can go out so we can put to rest all the smack talk. ;D And maybe dave wants sum lessons too
Hey Addict, you could probably out hook me where I've been fishing lately, lots of rocks and line balls, you count those as hook ups, don't you! :blink: I think you would have beat me 142 to 11 yesterday afternoon!! :blink: :unsure: :unsure: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: :w00t:
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Well here its is!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN8uBhc1ez8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN8uBhc1ez8)
Tell me if this better??
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Well here its is!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN8uBhc1ez8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN8uBhc1ez8)
Tell me if this better??
Much better Carpie!! That is really cool stuff, got my mind really thinking now!!!! GREAT JOB!! We still don't know what the infamous Warmachine looks like yet! Just all his great steelies!
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Well our only chance of rain this week isn't looking so good anymore! Pretty COOL Water Vapor Image of an upper level low rectro-grading into the upper Great Lakes region and drying up as it does so!
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WOW are the dead salmon starting to smell on the River!!
Gonna have to go check the Big res. and see how She's holding up!
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Just got back Monday night...The crowds up-river are nuts...I just can't enjoy standing in a line of 30-40 guys to fish?
Fished further down river where it wasn't so crazy...My buddy and I did get into a few fish, we both went 3 for 5 and each landing Steel & Browns. I broke off a big one....Had him on for a good 5-6 minutes....at one point he wrapped himself around a big rock, but I managed to manuever him back around....fought with him for another few minutes before he took a long run down-river into faster water....the drag was tought and he just kept pulling out line....he got out 200ft + before he broke off on another rock down-river....I was bummed to say the least :'( .... Overall it was a good weekend, the weather was great but it did bring out the crowds.....Can't wait to get back out there....Nothing like it! ;D
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Yep this is one of the more crowded Novembers we've had in years. Last 2 years have been really crowded too, the River is going through a popular phase, seen it before. This year with Bank anglers having so many opportunities with the lower water, it has been tremendous for the local economy! Also with Record numbers of guys having so much free time from being unemployed this year and just plain great weather, has made an already crowded River even more crowded! Hey the Dow Jones cracked 10,400, maybe we'll get some guys back to work next spring, but until then I don't even think high water or snow will keep the guys away, they just want to be here!!!!!!! I've fished crowds for nearly 30 years, so I don't know any better, don't bother me, actually over the weekend got a little excited about the "maddness" in Altmar, great to see everyone( especially chrildren) enjoying themselves! Glad you enjoyed yourself NH Trout Fisherman!! ;D ps; just got to walk a little to be away from everbody!!
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Yep this is one of the more crowded Novembers we've had in years. Last 2 years have been really crowded too, the River is going through a popular phase, seen it before. This year with Bank anglers having so many opportunities with the lower water, it has been tremendous for the local economy! Also with Record numbers of guys having so much free time from being unemployed this year and just plain great weather, has made an already crowded River even more crowded! Hey the Dow Jones cracked 10,400, maybe we'll get some guys back to work next spring, but until then I don't even think high water or snow will keep the guys away, they just want to be here!!!!!!! I've fished crowds for nearly 30 years, so I don't know any better, don't bother me, actually over the weekend got a little excited about the "maddness" in Altmar, great to see everyone( especial chrildren) enjoying themselves! Glad you enjoyed yourself NH Trout Fisherman!! ;D ps; just got to walk a little to be away from everbody!!
Heheh :D...We did alot of walking and driving and drifting... ;)
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That's another reason it's crowded in Altmar, your word "Drifting", not enough water to spread out the drift boats throughout the river, like in 1200cfs + Can't control the weather........ your already planning your next trip, so isn't alot of other people I know, don't expect December to be as slow as it usually is!! ;D As crowded as it was, saw few steelies Roped(on Stringers) as in past weekends, and for all you lurkers out there and one "Guide" in particular who gave my Russians a hard time, they were here for 3 days, 5 of them, they only killed 2 fish between all of them for 3 days, so lightnen up on the Profiling of Russians!!!
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Well won't be making any videos anytime soon, Carpie showed me some tricks, then had a computer Meltdown, don't know how you got it working again, but THANKS CARPIE!!!
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Well here its is!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN8uBhc1ez8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN8uBhc1ez8)
Tell me if this better??
METAL GODS!!!GREAT SLIDESHOW CARPPIE!!!! ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT!!! Now where did I put that JUDAS PRIEST VINYL RECORD????? GOOD JOB MAN!!--KP
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That's another reason it's crowded in Altmar, your word "Drifting", not enough water to spread out the drift boats throughout the river, like in 1200cfs + Can't control the weather........ your already planning your next trip, so isn't alot of other people I know, don't expect December to be as slow as it usually is!! ;D As crowded as it was, saw few steelies Roped(on Stringers) as in past weekends, and for all you lurkers out there and one "Guide" in particular who gave my Russians a hard time, they were here for 3 days, 5 of them, they only killed 2 fish between all of them for 3 days, so lightnen up on the Profiling of Russians!!!
Snagger, Concerning the so called drift boat " guide " who came down the river yelling at one person in general that he did'nt have enough room to make a turn, making a fool of himself in front of his customers, only after atleast 10 other drift boats came through without a problem, was totally out of line. Puffy looked at me & I looked at him in amazement as did others. But, the guide was told what we thought of him for acting like a jack---. Some people just think they own the river, instead of enjoying a beautiful, sunny day fishing. THE MAYOR
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Well went across the street tonight for an hour, went 0 for 4 on steelies, all good battles too! One big Darkie jumped probably 10 times or more, real slow when I got there, then a good flurry just before dark, bobber boys below me tore em up pretty good too! One of the guys from Conn. was landing his first steelie, congratulations Man!!
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Snagger, Concerning the so called drift boat " guide " who came down the river yelling at one person in general that he did'nt have enough room to make a turn, making a fool of himself in front of his customers, only after atleast 10 other drift boats came through without a problem, was totally out of line. Puffy looked at me & I looked at him in amazement as did others. But, the guide was told what we thought of him for acting like a jack---. Some people just think they own the river, instead of enjoying a beautiful, sunny day fishing. THE MAYOR
Hey MAYOR, was it someone you knew?
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Drove up to look at the Big Res. before I went fishing,
wasn't as bad as I would have thought since the last time I was there,
probably only dropped another 6 inches or so.
Still down a good 7 feet or more, but seen worse!
East wind was pushing water towards the dam though!!
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Heres a picture from the first week of october of 2007!!
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Hey SNAGGER, I was just in the shower, and heard the dog whimpering in the hallway, when i came out and looked in the back yard there was 300# plus bear getting what was left off my apple tree. I'm glad the dog was inside, as soon as the bear heard me it took off!
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Hey SNAGGER, I was just in the shower, and heard the dog whimpering in the hallway, when i came out and looked in the back yard there was 300# plus bear getting what was left off my apple tree. I'm glad the dog was inside, as soon as the bear heard me it took off!
I'll be 41 in February and besides California, I've never seen a bear in person before! got lots of Big Skunks that like to climb in my Dumpster, but no bears! They'd love all the puffy stinky salmon all over the River right now!
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I'll be 41 in February and besides California, I've never seen a bear in person before! got lots of Big Skunks that like to climb in my Dumpster, but no bears! They'd love all the puffy stinky salmon all over the River right now!
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The first time I ever saw one, was in Long Lake NY I was there for a week and saw bears every day, but that was about 20 years ago. There starting to get a good foot hold in the North west corner of Connecticut now, I've seen 2 others in farmers fields, but this is the closest Ive seen one here yet!!!
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Fished to today in town.. Over all it was a good morning..For the water beign as low as it is every place we stopped at we hooked fish,seen it better but still a good day over all. Stopped to Snagger's place to help out with making moives and the Machine Had a meltdown!! :o got it back up and running.. As for my fishing I did land a male Steelhead about 4lbs.. A lot of skippers in the lower end..
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Look at this beast!!!
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I miss the river :'(
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You have to love the way she holds fish...hehehe..
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Her Second Salmon..
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Her First Salmon
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Hey MAYOR, was it someone you knew?
Hey Bunker, Don'f know his name, but I see him everyday. Today he was tight lipped. Anyway, I had 6 Steelies on, landed 0. One heavy weight on for quite awhile, 3 long runs, back & forth with in 10 ft four times, just about ready land him on a small section of gravel & my tippet broke. End result, I enjoyed every minute he was on. He was the biggest Steelie I had on this fall. Also, landed one clean King which was a surprise. Fished the snorkel hole for approx 2 hrs. THE MAYOR
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Look at this beast!!!
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that fish was caught in canada i read the article in one of my magazines
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Hey Creekchubjoe, Tomorrow, cloudy, chance of rain late afternoon. If you want to fish tomorrow morning give me a call. I'm going to the same place I saw you today. Hope to see you. THE MAYOR
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that fish was caught in canada i read the article in one of my magazines
When did you learn how to read, this whole time I thought your Mom was posting these for you! :w00t: Nice pic's of your girlfriend Carpie!!!
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Hey Creekchubjoe, Tomorrow, cloudy, chance of rain late afternoon. If you want to fish tomorrow morning give me a call. I'm going to the same place I saw you today. Hope to see you. THE MAYOR
Mayor, ill call u in the am thanks
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that fish was caught in canada i read the article in one of my magazines
HEY BIG BOPPER, I know you, when did you find time to read an article, in between all your siesta's. THE MAYOR
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Hey Mayor found an old Photo of Puffy, you were there that day!!!
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Thought this image was just Cool looking!
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Is your Computer working OK Snagger???
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Hey MAYOR, Puff Daddy should have taken that fly off of that fishes head before the picture was taken!! He wouldn't want anyone to know his secret for the high number of hook ups he gets.
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SO CLOSE, YET SO FAR AWAY!! Rained here for 5 minutes, then just cloudy with east winds, must be the pressure is low because the fishing has slowed down up here in Altmar compared to last 5 days or so! Talked to guys I know that have been fishing in the area's I've been latelly, said it was like a light switch was turned off today, that's fishin. I picked the right day to work and not fish! Hope we can get some of that rain out west!
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Atleast the western tribs are getting some rain, hope we get some!
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Look at how the right side of that low has tapped into the moisture off of the Atlantic, hope that hole down below fills in or we'll get cheated here!
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Hey snagger you headed up to Oneida this weekend? Think I will be there Friday nite gotta meet wiredstone for a gift pack, though you might wana go give it a try
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Hey Mayor found an old Photo of Puffy, you were there that day!!!
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Hey Bunker, I see Puff Daddy's beadhead stone fly in the mouth, what your refering to is a beauty mark. THE MAYOR
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SNAGGER, It was nice to see your Uncle John this afternoon, he's a nice man. How long is he up for? Hope long enough for you to catch some Walleye & cook him a great meal. THE MAYOR
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Hi Guys,
Got here in Altmar around 10am. Fished the area behind the school up to the bridge, I got skunked. My buddy hooked up about 5 times and landed a nice brown. I was flotaing egg sacks with about a 3 foot leader, 1 or 2 #7 spiltshots about halfway on the leader. They didnt work, so I swtched to small pink worms, some small orange yarn flies, etc...nothing really worked for me today I didnt even have any hookups. Went down to Tressel for a while too and no one was catching anything there. Went back to School house until dark. Hopefully tomorrow morning I can hook into something.
-Scott
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Hi Guys,
Got here in Altmar around 10am. Fished the area behind the school up to the bridge, I got skunked. My buddy hooked up about 5 times and landed a nice brown. I was flotaing egg sacks with about a 3 foot leader, 1 or 2 #7 spiltshots about halfway on the leader. They didnt work, so I swtched to small pink worms, some small orange yarn flies, etc...nothing really worked for me today I didnt even have any hookups. Went down to Tressel for a while too and no one was catching anything there. Went back to School house until dark. Hopefully tomorrow morning I can hook into something.
-Scott
Hey Scott,
Sent you a PM.... ;)
Have Fun out there ;D
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Good luck tommorrow Scott
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Thanks Ron and Keith.
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Hi Guys,
Got here in Altmar around 10am. Fished the area behind the school up to the bridge, I got skunked. My buddy hooked up about 5 times and landed a nice brown. I was flotaing egg sacks with about a 3 foot leader, 1 or 2 #7 spiltshots about halfway on the leader. They didnt work, so I swtched to small pink worms, some small orange yarn flies, etc...nothing really worked for me today I didnt even have any hookups. Went down to Tressel for a while too and no one was catching anything there. Went back to School house until dark. Hopefully tomorrow morning I can hook into something.
-Scott
What was your friend doing different than you, Tomorrow the Barometer will be rising and the fish will be more active! Think of today as a practice day, and hopefully you got to watch a few guys that might have been doing a little better than the rest of the guys! It's much warmer tonight, last 3 times it was this warm at night, 2 days later there was good steelhead movement in the River System! SATURDAY!!! keep an open mind and Watch the guys that hook the MOST, this will shave time off your learning curve and get you hooking more fish quickly! Theres a million ways to fish for steelies, becoming a good bottom bouncer will take time and patience, put a float on sometimes when your in areas that have alot of snags or boulders! Kids catch bluegills and sunnies on floats all the time, only difference is are equipment is more expensive!! :w00t: Hope you enjoy yourself out here man!!!
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Thanks Ron and Keith.
Bring any 3/0 splits, I like that size to mix in depending on the run, the other day near the Barrel I was running 2 #7's, then 1 #7, then 2 3/0's, then a 3/0 and a 7 depending where you start your drift, I'm old school my drift if 11 to 6 with rod tip low to the water! If you drift down from you, you can use more weight, if you fish up at 10 o clock going to need less weight or you'll get hung up! see what I mean, not with a float obviously! When it's more crowded, sometimes don't get to stand where you want to, so manipulate the weight to your advantage! Staying in Rhythm with the guys around you is half the battle!! Catch ya later!!
Hopefully this will help too by Saturday! Been raining good for 2 hours now!
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Pouring rain out here and i'm just south of the river by 10 miles, looks the same up there on the radar. I guess any rain is good at this point for you guys.
As for the walleyes ninjas, it's rough to say the least the last 2 weeks. Maybe it is the weather, i'ts just weird to get them for a couple weeks and then they shut off like this. I think if we get a cold snap they will turn on.
cny
Got ice????
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Pouring rain out here and i'm just south of the river by 10 miles, looks the same up there on the radar. I guess any rain is good at this point for you guys.
As for the walleyes ninjas, it's rough to say the least the last 2 weeks. Maybe it is the weather, i'ts just weird to get them for a couple weeks and then they shut off like this. I think if we get a cold snap they will turn on.
cny
Got ice????
You know it!~!!! Bring on the HARD WATER, Come on SNOW and 10 below Zero!!! Can't wait to spud my way out on Oneida and drill my first hole!!!
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Man I hope you guys are getting as much rain as we are getting here in Connecticut. Bob
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Hey Bunker, I see Puff Daddy's beadhead stone fly in the mouth, what your refering to is a beauty mark. THE MAYOR
I see it now, I guess from time to time even Puff Daddy gets them in the mouth as well!!!!
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Not sure exactly how much rain we got, forgot to put a bucket out, 5 hours worth, theres a certain puddle I look at the day after it rains, it's already dried up! The Ground needed it bad, later I'll take a drive to check the creeks! It's a start in the right direction!
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Not sure exactly how much rain we got, forgot to put a bucket out, 5 hours worth, theres a certain puddle I look at the day after it rains, it's already dried up! The Ground needed it bad, later I'll take a drive to check the creeks! It's a start in the right direction!
WE got the rain here that you needed!!!!
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WE got the rain here that you needed!!!!
Channel nine said Syracuse recieved just under an inch, we must have really needed it, creeks are up a little, but not much, still rising though! Maybe that little bit of scent from the creeks will get the Browns/steelies downRiver to move a little tonight! Little Breezy out there today!!! Catch ya later Bunker!!
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Just made my rounds to 4 different fishing spots in Altmar, hook ups everywhere I went, except up at the Bridge! ;) Give you more Details Sunday after all of my guests have left, definitely 100% better than yesterday where I went!!!! Orwell barely even came up at all! Have a great weekend guys!!! Hey Jason get off my Rock!! ;D
FISH ON!! COMING DOWN!!! OH FISH OFFF!!!!
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all our tribs in wny are just about not fishable....
especially the erie tribs we got around 10 inches of rain
when i left burt the shoreline was starting to get color from the drains
im thinking im going ot hit a smaller creek tomorrow morning and see how i do =D
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There were alot of hungry fish at that rock eating bubblegum worms yesterday.
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There were alot of hungry fish at that rock eating bubblegum worms yesterday.
Sorry different Jason, been fishin up at the unemployment hole with an old buddy of mine Jason Wilson! Me and him have been fighting over the same rock for a few days. I think I'm going to give him 2 walleye tomorrow to put with his steelhead on his stringer! :w00t: Can't wait to see what people say when they see it!! ;D Glad to hear your hitting them good down River Jason, been too busy to stray far, Not enough people down there for me, so fishing in the Altmar "Gauntlet" Army Jungle Style, been a riot!! :w00t:
The "OLD unemployment hole!!!!
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The New One!!!!!
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Heres an unbelievable shot of The "barrel hole" with no one in it!
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.......shane,
think keith and I are coming for sun/mon. Got a room for us?
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hey snagg, where is the barrel hole? i'm sure i've fished it growing up (15 years ago), but have know idea where it is. did you get any rain that was predicted yesterday? gonna try to get out tomorrow morning for a few hours, but if it's still real low up by you, i might try down in town.
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hey snagg, where is the barrel hole? i'm sure i've fished it growing up (15 years ago), but have know idea where it is. did you get any rain that was predicted yesterday? gonna try to get out tomorrow morning for a few hours, but if it's still real low up by you, i might try down in town.
That picture of the tree leaning with snow on it is it! The Picture was taken from the schoolhouse looking up towards the Altmar bridge! Unless you like crowds, fish somewhere that you enjoy fishing below Pineville! Got an inch of rain, but everything is still dead low, little extra water down river, but not much! theres been great reports this month all up and down the River, just depends on your skill level, floats in the pools has been good downtown! This 335cfs must be driving the drift boat guides NUTs by now! Good luck Bigbrookie!!
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Fishing Report: Everyone staying here and my friends that I talked too said today was the Best hook up day since Last Saturday! Many people doing Double digits on all styles of fishing techniques! GREAT DAY!!!! Sorry Scott D, never got over to the turn til 3PM, just BSed with some friends, hope you did well today! Catch ya later, Ps; Sandies had good water, not many fish though!
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thanks snagg. think we'll try down in town early on and take it from there.
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All done hunting back to fishing..
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Fishing Report: Everyone staying here and my friends that I talked too said today was the Best hook up day since Last Saturday! Many people doing Double digits on all styles of fishing techniques! GREAT DAY!!!! Sorry Scott D, never got over to the turn til 3PM, just BSed with some friends, hope you did well today! Catch ya later, Ps; Sandies had good water, not many fish though!
Thanks again Snagger! We fished Barrel, School House, and Unemployment from 630-11. Finalyy had to check out of our room and head home. No fish landed today, but saw SO MANY others catching them on the same setups we had. Just wasnt our lucky trip I suppose!
I did reach down and pick up 3 Coho's that were still alive and kicking, if that counts LOL
-Scott
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Thanks again Snagger! We fished Barrel, School House, and Unemployment from 630-11. Finalyy had to check out of our room and head home. No fish landed today, but saw SO MANY others catching them on the same setups we had. Just wasnt our lucky trip I suppose!
I did reach down and pick up 3 Coho's that were still alive and kicking, if that counts LOL
-Scott
Just takes a few trips is all, you'll get the hang of it man! Those Coho's count in my book, but I'm a Bandit!! :o
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snagger that first and third picture is just heaven, WOW !!!
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I think I seen a Mayor sighting not too long ago when I was cleaning walleye! ;) Hey LV you talk too much! :w00t: Back to cleaning rooms, WOW!!!, alot of guys up to the Bridge!!!
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Had a blast this weekend .Thanks for everything Snagger.
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:thumbup_smilie: We all had alot of fun.
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Had a blast this weekend .Thanks for everything Snagger.
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:thumbup_smilie: We all had alot of fun.
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As always, GREAT TIMES KEVIN!!!! ;D
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FISHING REPORT: Not as much to report today, as guys were leaving early! Had guys fish the Altmar area, said it was pretty good this morning, also had guys in the Lower fly zone, said it was decent! Mixture of Coho's, browns and dark steelies!! Had guys fishing sac's over to Both North and South Sandy for the second day in arow, said it was getting real low now and clear, but managed to land some nice smaller steelies and a few brownies! Couple more MILD days before real November weather finally arrives!!! Good thing, it's almost December!! Could there be LAKE EFFECT IN OUR FUTURE? Give em hell boys!!! ;D
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Hey snagger let me know what day you think is going to be good for steelies and for you to go...
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Hey snagger let me know what day you think is going to be good for steelies and for you to go...
Got to get one more day of work done, then it's
:w00t: STEELHEAD AND WALDO'S EVERY DAY!!!! :w00t:
:clapping: COME ON WEST WINDS AND COLD!!!!!! :clapping:
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can anyone explain to me how to put pictures on this forum? cant figure it out for the life of me
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can anyone explain to me how to put pictures on this forum? cant figure it out for the life of me
Got a photobucket account yet?
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No where do i go for that
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Just type in photobucket and sign up
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OK now what
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OK now what
Where do you think you are, this aint the Trestle hole, go practice somewhere else, you post pics about as good as you fish!! :clapping: :w00t: :w00t: :thumbup_smilie:
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fished from about 7:30-2:30 sunday. went 3-11 mostly all the action was in the am. we started out at the elm tree bend below trestle. lost a few there and landed 1 juvy steelie. also lost the biggest brown i've had in a while!!!!! we aslo fished ellis cove for a bout an hour and managed a few juvy browns. everything was caught of bubble gum worms. i dont know if this made a difference or not, but i put on a carmel bead on just above the worm. i tripled my buddies bites who was using a red bead and bubble gum worm. good luck all.
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fished from about 7:30-2:30 sunday. went 3-11 mostly all the action was in the am. we started out at the elm tree bend below trestle. lost a few there and landed 1 juvy steelie. also lost the biggest brown i've had in a while!!!!! we aslo fished ellis cove for a bout an hour and managed a few juvy browns. everything was caught of bubble gum worms. i dont know if this made a difference or not, but i put on a carmel bead on just above the worm. i tripled my buddies bites who was using a red bead and bubble gum worm. good luck all.
It's funny you say that, alot of my friends who fish beads, pull the bead up the line when they switch to egg sac's, if the bead bite isn't working! Last week it was gloe roe, cheese or apricot mottled / 6 gram float with a white egg sac under it! Alot of guys up here customize there beads with nail polish! I took the eggs out of a steelie's belly in October and have a guy right now trying to copy that exact color right down to the micro blemishes! Glad you did good, got to love the Trout worm!! ;D
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It's funny you say that, alot of my friends who fish beads, pull the bead up the line when they switch to egg sac's, if the bead bite isn't working! Last week it was gloe roe, cheese or apricot mottled / 6 gram float with a white egg sac under it! Alot of guys up here customize there beads with nail polish! I took the eggs out of a steelie's belly in October and have a guy right now trying to copy that exact color right down to the micro blemishes! Glad you did good, got to love the Trout worm!! ;D
yea, when i grabbed the beads, i was looking for the closest color and size to browns eggs. and yea, i do love me some bubble gum worms!!!
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FISHING REPORT: Not as much to report today, as guys were leaving early! Had guys fish the Altmar area, said it was pretty good this morning, also had guys in the Lower fly zone, said it was decent! Mixture of Coho's, browns and dark steelies!! Had guys fishing sac's over to Both North and South Sandy for the second day in arow, said it was getting real low now and clear, but managed to land some nice smaller steelies and a few brownies! Couple more MILD days before real November weather finally arrives!!! Good thing, it's almost December!! Could there be LAKE EFFECT IN OUR FUTURE? Give em hell boys!!! ;D
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Went 0 for 6 on sat. one big crome. My buddies landed a few but I had the camera down stream. No one there , how sweet is that?
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I think I seen a Mayor sighting not too long ago when I was cleaning walleye! ;) Hey LV you talk too much! :w00t: Back to cleaning rooms, WOW!!!, alot of guys up to the Bridge!!!
Snagger, The only Mayor siting you might have seen would have been if you were cleaning walleye on 81. See you in 2 weeks bud... The Mayor
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I'll see you in a couple weeks BUD, hope you have a good holiday!! ;)
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Got signed out and had a helluva time getting back on. glad to be back missed a few pages.
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what species are in the salmon river right now?
Will there be brown trout around in december?
-J
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what species are in the salmon river right now?
Will there be brown trout around in december?
-J
Mostly steelhead and Brownies, but a reasonable amount of red male coho's are left upRiver that didn't get to do there thing! They are very resilient, compared to kings! Some will still be kicking around in December. Browns will hold over for the winter once their done spawning as well! People mostly fish for Steelhead in December with the occasional brownie! With lower waters this year, there might be less browns up River this winter than the past 3-4 years, if we don't get Runoff soon, less Steelies upRiver too! We'll See!!
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FISHING REPORT: Had guests and friends out fishing hard the last 2 days. Double digit hook up days for 2 of them! Most common tactic's have been gold beadhead maribu flies and Copper stoneflies bottom bounced with 6lb. mainline and 4lb. leader in the runs and pools of the upper River. A few guys staying here have been getting them on bead's, white sacs, and the power worm and float, but most are bottom bouncing flies! Pink estez has been good up at the Turn! November 24th, still alot of people and still no Snow. Looks like 335cfs for a while longer! Give' em hell guys!! I took a water temp yesterday, it was still 43 degrees!
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Hay snagger how do you think the fishing pressure will be over the Holiday weekend?
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what species are in the salmon river right now?
Will there be brown trout around in december?
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Bowhunter,
In the river right now you have a good blend of Browns and Steelheads and Rainbows. If you are fishing low in the river we are catching the fish on white Salmon egg sacs and blue egg sacs. 4 or 5 eggs in the bags. If you can get your hands on Brown eggs you might be better off. Also glow roe beads 10-8mm and glow roe molted has been working well too. I fish mostly Oswego River this year and we have been doing very well there! More BIG Browns but they are just starting to fall out a bit. No water for the last month so there has not been a 2nd big push of fish in the river yet and they are spawning out.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34079964/ns/us_news-environment
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Hey Carpie how do I make this so you can open it?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34079964/ns/us_news-environment
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THANKS RAQUETTEDACKER, READ IT!!!!!!
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OH that would really suck!!!
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Yea, thats not a good thing.....
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Snagger your mailbox is full!!!!
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Snagger your mailbox is full!!!!
Fixed!!
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Snagger I'll be where I've been in the Morning @ 5:45am CU in the praking lot by the gazebo maybe??
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Snagger I'll be where I've been in the Morning @ 5:45am CU in the praking lot by the gazebo maybe??
Can't go tomorrow, bills to pay before the holiday!!! Maybe friday!!
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Hay snagger how do you think the fishing pressure will be over the Holiday weekend?
Should be light on thanksgiving, but after that, even with VERY ROUGH WEATHER coming, I still think there will be quite a few people this weekend, the River just too popular right now! Should be much less than last 3 weeks though! We better start getting some RAIN SOON, were running out of time to fill the RES.!!! Don't want 335 all December too, then 285 all winter! We need a monster Lake Effect Snow Event then a big rain/meltdown or 2 !!!!!
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Can't go tomorrow, bills to pay before the holiday!!! Maybe friday!!
Ok Friday I'll be there in the morning before I get my daughter..Water s up to 2320Cfs thats rippin..lol.
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Here is a Video on float fishing..In this video it sums up how to fish with a float and its very helpful for the first timer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxexZx9JTsk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxexZx9JTsk)
Here is a very good video on Steelhead fishing...Umm it true so don't give up in the same run your fishing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF0OMXHLr6g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF0OMXHLr6g)
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Great Carpie, glad to hear the water came up! Good video's!!! Just had 2 guys leave who were up for 3 days. They C & R'ed for 2 days and Kept one each today, one was a beautiful 33 1/2 inch 12lb sleek Skamanian! Awesome looking fish, good orange meat too!! Camera is on the blink again, wanted a picture, man was it beautiful! Also heard through other guests that the Pinners are already starting there I'm better than you attitde, guess it's time to go over with 20lb power Pro walleye rods and slice some floats off! :w00t: As Carpie would say, good luck with that Attitude all Winter Drift Newbies!!!! >:(
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There is a lot of Attitude FLOATING around the rivers lately!!
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Second round of rain coming through the area right now,
but it aint much, not even measurable here!!
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Could be an East Coast storm on Friday that Clipps us with some Cold Rain,
with limited Lake Effect behind it Saturday!!
COME ON RAIN!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey Snagger, see you Friday afternoon with goodies.
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Hey Snagger, see you Friday afternoon with goodies.
Are my Secret Beads Done!! :w00t: Hey Wirestone, more waldo jigs!!! ;D
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Yes sir they are done as well as your secret jiggggggggs.
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"everybody's lining 'em except for me and you, and i ain't so sure about you".
wish i had a buck for every post about lining fish.......
i'll be up tuesday and wednesday. hope to "line" a few!-Paul
Your PM box is full!!!
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Second round of rain coming through the area right now,
but it aint much, not even measurable here!!
Could be an East Coast storm on Friday that Clipps us with some Cold Rain,
with limited Lake Effect behind it Saturday!!
COME ON RAIN!!!!!!!!!!!
Man, you know Wayne Mahar ain't gonna' live forever...
And I bet you could just "phone in" a job like that from Altmar, Snagger...
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Man, you know Wayne Mahar ain't gonna' live forever...
And I bet you could just "phone in" a job like that from Altmar, Snagger...
Some friends used to call me shane Mahar cause it rimes, almost went to college for atmospheric science, fished too much!! :w00t: How you been Jimmy, not coming out this weekend?
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I'm still smiling over the "Massacre in Brown Town" two weeks ago...
I've fished all over North America in just the past decade alone- but I swear I never saw trout action and sheer girth anywhere in the Blue Ridge, Rockies, Sierra Nevadas or Alaska Range that could compare to NY's finest!
Seriously- people friggin' fly to Patagonia Chile for shots at browns like those. Jeepers.
No dice this weekend... Two nights of Phish concerts here in Albany. Party time.
But I have no doubt I'll see you in the next few weeks. I know a little cabin near the UFZ with my name on it!
Hoping we can whack some metalheads together with the noodles some afternoon in December.
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I'm still smiling over the "Massacre in Brown Town" two weeks ago...
I've fished all over North America in just the past decade alone- but I swear I never saw trout action and sheer girth anywhere in the Blue Ridge, Rockies, Sierra Nevadas or Alaska Range that could compare to NY's finest!
Seriously- people friggin' fly to Patagonia Chile for shots at browns like those. Jeepers.
No dice this weekend... Two nights of Phish concerts here in Albany. Party time.
But I have no doubt I'll see you in the next few weeks. I know a little cabin near the UFZ with my name on it!
Hoping we can whack some metalheads together with the noodles some afternoon in December.
Yep people over look them up here! A bunch of us business owners back in the Spring of 04 got the DEC to give us some extra Brown Trout fingerlings, like 20,000 or something, we all got together one morning and walked in hundreds of bucket fulls of fingerling brownies up into Orwell and the Upper Salmon River. THINK THEY TOOK?
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Good LAWD, yes!!! :D Please put some more in when you get a chance!!!
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Good LAWD, yes!!! :D Please put some more in when you get a chance!!!
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Good LAWD is that from "Goodtimes"? :w00t: That is an AWESOME picture! As you know I grew up on Cayuga Lake and the Browns, once stocked in the Cayuga Inlet, took the stream over, almost wiped out the Rainbow Run in the early 90's. Then they found a balance, but to this day it's never been the same. BROWNS everywhere, once they get a naturally reproduced foothold, you won't get rid of them, if anything they might knock the steelie numbers down in the future!
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I know a lot of guys aren't too fond of the Browns (ah hmm!), but still... Awesome!!!
I guess I love those Lake "O"-run butterbellies so much simply because nearly all the trout guys I know can "relate" to a brown. Steelies are just something those of us in the Great Lakes (and Pacific Northwest, of course) get to enjoy.
I've got buddies in friggin' GEORGIA who nail some d**n respectable rainbows on the 'Hooch in north Georgia and Cherokeee, NC and while they do love to see my Steelhead photos, it is those ABSURD browns that flip them out. And I fished Colorado in my old haunts for a solid week this summer and was pleased with 21" browns in Gore Canyon!
But those Empire State Browns? Blow them all away easily. Every fish was a "fish of a lifetime".
And for those who say the big ones don't jump and run? Well, I wish you were in my wading boots two weeks ago. Some fish went to the air, some hunkered down, and one took off so fast I was POSITIVE it was chrome until I got a glove on him!
Also, for the record: Those DEC signs distinguishing ID between Atlantic Salmon and Seaforellen Browns are way out of whack. "Brown trout are not successfully grabbed by the tail"?
Jeesh, when they have full-blown CANKLES like the ones we wailed on awhile back, its like grabbing a handle!!!
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Speaking of Atlantics, I thought we would see more in the River, after looking at quite a few pics this summer on the lake forums! Guess not, who cares, like you said lots of Browns!!!
Heres a recent lake temp map I look at from my weather obsession!
If this was late August and I saw that much upwelling at the eastern end,
I'd being driving to the Port to check for Salmon.
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HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERBODY!!
All of us on here have alot to be thankful for. I'm thankful for all of the men and women overseas protecting our way of life. I hope they have a safe thanksgiving and safe return soon. Thanksgiving is not about Black Friday & time off from work, it's about talking and being with friends and family! Sharing old memories and making new ones! Hope everyone has a good one!! Shane M.
Also, I joined IceShanty last year around thanksgiving
and I'm thankful for meeting many good guys on here and IS!!
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Happy Turkey day Shane. See you Friday afternoon.
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Happy thanksgiving all!
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:laugh: :laugh:hey shane and every one else on this awsome sight HAPPY THANKSGIVING might be coming back up in dec with some of the boys see you then shane RICK
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Snagger: While I am new to the forum thanks to Jimmy I must say you seem like the real deal and tell it straight up, something I really respect. Thanks for all you have done in my short visit here and I'm quite sure we will meet up .
As for Brown Town:
I have a little time on the river under my belt and 2 friends wanted to add a Ontario Big Brown that they read about to their fishing resume. Well when Jimmy & company rolled into town around midnight and glassy eyed I showed them some photo's from my previous day and their jaws dropped. It was great to see.
I love that above shot and thanks to Jimmy I learned how to take good pic's.
So many GREAT pic's of GREAT fish were taken but I love this shot...
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Hope to see ya once the freezer is full of all organic meat ...
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Snagger: While I am new to the forum thanks to Jimmy I must say you seem like the real deal and tell it straight up, something I really respect. Thanks for all you have done in my short visit here and I'm quite sure we will meet up .
As for Brown Town:
I have a little time on the river under my belt and 2 friends wanted to add a Ontario Big Brown that they read about to their fishing resume. Well when Jimmy & company rolled into town around midnight and glassy eyed I showed them some photo's from my previous day and their jaws dropped. It was great to see.
I love that above shot and thanks to Jimmy I learned how to take good pic's.
So many GREAT pic's of GREAT fish were taken but I love this shot...
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Hope to see ya once the freezer is full of all organic meat ...
Welcome to MFF, glad you enjoyed our BS Thread! We have alot of fun up here, glad to help out if I can! I look at The BS Thread as a bar room, just stop in after work and see how everybody did! I read every page of Oneida Diehard thread, even though I didn't fish there for over 2 months during Salmon Season, Had fun just hearing about it! We'll all run into each other sooner or later! Have a good one man!
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Fishing Report: I fished up below the bridge today for about an hour and a half, got my butt handed to me by my buddy LV. I only hooked 3 while he hooked about 7, there was alot of guys around today with the beautiful partly sunny 56 degree weather! I probably shouldn't say this, but all the fish we hooked plus another 6 or so from other Anglers were Dime Bright Fresh steelies. They were going ballistic, What a difference from the hooked and released half dead darkies from a couple days ago. These fish just arrived, surprised they didn't have sea lice on them!! ;D White like pillow cases with black steel tops!! Had a fish ready for the camera, it flipped back in the water and did another 50 yard run and the hook came out! I hope theres more fresh ones coming and these ones don't move up into the Fly Zone tonight! Because they were fun, even if just for a little while! I tryed a new line today that didn't work out, my numbers will be better tomorrow if I go, so look out LV, I got your number!
Speaking of tomorrow, FINALLY ROTTEN WEATHER HAS ARIVED FAIR WEATHER FISHERMEN, tomorrow upper 30's with 15-30mph Northwest winds with rain/snow. Heres the beginnings of what could be a good drink for the Very Low big Res.!!! I watched these clouds and rain Form in place as I was fishing, it was pretty cool!
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Snagger,
Are those "dark half dead" steelies ready to spawn?
Thanks
Julius
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fished a couple of the usual spots on the upper end yesterday. slow day, couldn't figure out what they wanted. ended up 2 for 5, 1 juvy steelie and a nice red coho about 10lbs. we tried everything we could think off yesterday, but blue sacks and orange estaz (only had one and wish i had more) seemed to be the best bet. even though we didn't have a great day yesterday, it was still a beautiful day to be on the water. hopefully the water will come up a bit and bring some more freshies in tomorrow and sunday. gl all.
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Snagger,
Are those "dark half dead" steelies ready to spawn?
Thanks
Julius
Not yet, usually the first spawners are around Christmas, Alot of spawning in Late January-February for the fall run fish! If you get lucky and get a domestic Rainbow, they are loose right now!
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Snagger,
I have a load Brown and Rainbow eggs for you should hold you over for a little bit!!
Smiple...
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Got about 5/8's of an inch of rain, no snow here! The creeks came up a little more than the last rain( inch), so the ground water tables are getting better, could have used more, but we'll take it! Not as cold as they predicted, 42 degrees and partly sunny right now with only about 10mph northwest wind! Because of the Holiday, the River is Crowded again like 2 weeks ago! Had guys out today at all ends of the River, people all over. Decent reports, but nothing out of the ordinary(3-6 hook up type stuff)! Hey Bigbrookie, that was good timing(lucky) yesterday to find that fresh pod with out owning a drift boat or something! It lasted about an hour, fun while it lasted. Others that were there all day said they had good double digit numbers, but Silver ones had just showed up! Looking out my window now, they must be doing something up there, cause it's crowded!
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WOW is the Wind Ripping now!! That Noreaster is winding up good off the coast of Maine. Looks like the weather pattern has finally changed. Got some more rain this evening and more in the forcast, especially next Friday maybe, then a dramattic change to winter! Dave on Channel nine said next weekend could be the first real outbreak of Lake effect Snows! I can't Wait!!!!
After to talking to everybody, it ended up being a pretty good day on the River today!
Good luck Saturday! ;D
Here's a few pic's from last week!
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seems like a burt we get more domestics then chrome....
i hate keeping bows and steel bu twhen i struggled to get a brown and got a roughtly 5-6 pound domestic i kept her sadly enough it tore my heart apart.
but i need eggs.
oh and snagger jig bite is on at burt all ive een getting them on starting thanksgiving to yesterday i had 5 fish in about 4 hours of fishing wiht a ton of pressure
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Great pics ! :thumbup_smilie:
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Hey Wire, Mentzy and Lehigh Valley fished together downtown today, said it was pretty good, not great, here's a few pic's. You should see how MOBBED UP Altmar is with people and Drift boats! You Can't fit another car in either parking lot!! Got to be the most crowded I've ever seen it this late in the season!
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Big hooked jawwed brownie!
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Mentzy with Fish On!
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Nice Domestic that was released!
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LV with a Big Fresh Steelhead!
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seems like a burt we get more domestics then chrome....
i hate keeping bows and steel bu twhen i struggled to get a brown and got a roughtly 5-6 pound domestic i kept her sadly enough it tore my heart apart.
but i need eggs.
oh and snagger jig bite is on at burt all ive een getting them on starting thanksgiving to yesterday i had 5 fish in about 4 hours of fishing wiht a ton of pressure
Great to hear the jig bite started, we need some big rains, then snow and cold for a couple weeks! Then the fish will be hunkered down in the bigger pools for some jig action!
When you need eggs, you need eggs!! Don't feel guilty about keeping a few if you need them, boats out in the lake don't feel guilty in July do they!
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Nice fish. Looks like an awsome day. Wind blowin west here at 42 mph. Ice is coming. Thinking of coming up 11th and 12th for the ice fishin show. :clapping:
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Even with the background blurd out I stood on that one rock..lol.. Nice steelhead!!!!!..
Don't eat it...You'll get in big trouble... :nono: I am only kidding some of these guys... :cookoo:
Enjoy the fish nothing beats a fresh steelhead on the grill!! ;D ;D
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Even with the background blurd out I stood on that one rock..lol.. Nice steelhead!!!!!..
Don't eat it...You'll get in big trouble... :nono: I am only kidding some of these guys... :cookoo:
Enjoy the fish nothing beats a fresh steelhead on the grill!! ;D ;D
And now I understand why people look at me funny!!!!! :cookoo: :wacko: It's the fish!!!! :sick:--KP
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And now I understand why people look at me funny!!!!! :cookoo: :wacko: It's the fish!!!! :sick:--KP
KP, just put them in your garden..The toxins make the biggest tomatoes..Three Pound beefsteaks can't beat them!!
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KP, just put them in your garden..The toxins make the biggest tomatoes..Three Pound beefsteaks can't beat them!!
Those will go great with a nice salmon side salad and GOBIE appetizers!!! ;D--KP
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Hay Snagger, Just wanted to say thanks for another grate Holiday weekend at Altmar Outfitters we had a blast. I really didn't think this weekend would have ben as good as it was with all the people around but the numbers don't lie. Multiple steelhead landed 2 of which were at least 13lbs one male and a female, one brown and a domestic. Not bad for a crowded weekend.
Hay Mayor, that brown run you told me about produced a wall hanger for one Lucky camper this weekend. The picture is just above. Jay was pretty happy!!!
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Glad you had a great holliday weekend LV, but calm down your upsetting a walleye fisherman down at Oneida with all your happiness!
Went up to the turn tonight for an hour and a half, and man was it was slow from the bridge to the upper barrel! I hooked and landed one, that was all I saw hooked. Walked over to the bridge and watched a TON of fish being hooked in the lower fly Zone. At one point there was 3 on 2 times, there's a pile of fish in that hole. 3 younger fly guys in paticullar were really tearing them up at the tailout! Had fun just watching! Great show they put on!
If you were to look at this radar from out of town, you'de think we were getting alot of rain, but it's just drizzle! Must be the radar is picking up virga or rain aloft, cause it's hardly raining here!
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Hope everyone had a great holiday weekend! ;D
It filled in a little better now, decent soaking the last 2 hours!
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Great to hear the jig bite started, we need some big rains, then snow and cold for a couple weeks! Then the fish will be hunkered down in the bigger pools for some jig action!
When you need eggs, you need eggs!! Don't feel guilty about keeping a few if you need them, boats out in the lake don't feel guilty in July do they!
that is very true but most boats go out and keep anything because the charter captains want to keep them. chromers and domestics are beautiful fish...
but ya im going down to burt here soon to try and get the jig bite poppin again at the d**n
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.....wading jacket and a fly rod? Your closer to crossing that bridge than I thought ;)
nice fish!
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Creeks are up a little this afternoon with 3/8's of an inch of rain last night. Puddles in the driveway are sticking around alot longer now too. Groundwater tables are getting better everyday up here! If it stays mild much longer the Big Res. should get back to a normal level soon hopefully! I wonder if the fly guys are still tearing them up just above the bridge! ;D
Drove up and checked the Big Res. It's come up about 1 1`/2 feet since the last time I was there! But still leaving it about 5 1/2 feet down from the top of the Dam! Were getting there, but slowly! With more mild weather or should I say seasonably mild weather in the forecast( the average high this time of year for Altmar is about 39 degrees) we should keep gaining slowly!
HOLY COW was there alot of cars up at the upper fly zone(25+) and still 45-50 cars up at the bridge between parking lots! Alot of money in town too, these vehichles were'nt anything I could afford! Are all the DSR guys up here now! It was a good weekend for the tackle shops and Bar on the other side of the bridge, most people I can remember for this time of year!
Only hours to go til December and no Measurable snow yet in Altmar for November, I wonder how many times that has happened?
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Snagger, Is the water level back up any at the bridge? KPjr. was wondering!!! ::) He's hooked!! catch you later man!!--KP
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Snagger, Is the water level back up any at the bridge? KPjr. was wondering!!! ::) He's hooked!! catch you later man!!--KP
When you and Kpjr had that good steelhead day the water was 750cfs, it's still a low 335cfs! So the run you were fishing really doesn't exist right now, the fish are all holding a little farther upstream til the water hopefully goes back up someday!! we'll just half to show him another shore spot in the meantime! Catch ya later KP!!
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Nice Picture of the boy holding a big Brown Snagger!! You should put the Walleyes back up to!
Smiple...
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Creeks are up a little this afternoon with 3/8's of an inch of rain last night. Puddles in the driveway are sticking around alot longer now too. Groundwater tables are getting better everyday up here! If it stays mild much longer the Big Res. should get back to a normal level soon hopefully! I wonder if the fly guys are still tearing them up just above the bridge! ;D
Drove up and checked the Big Res. It's come up about 1 1`/2 feet since the last time I was there! But still leaving it about 5 1/2 feet down from the top of the Dam! Were getting there, but slowly! With more mild weather or should I say seasonably mild weather in the forecast( the average high this time of year for Altmar is about 39 degrees) we should keep gaining slowly!
HOLY COW was there alot of cars up at the upper fly zone(25+) and still 45-50 cars up at the bridge between parking lots! Alot of money in town too, these vehichles were'nt anything I could afford! Are all the DSR guys up here now! It was a good weekend for the tackle shops and Bar on the other side of the bridge, most people I can remember for this time of year!
Only hours to go til December and no Measurable snow yet in Altmar for November, I wonder how many times that has happened?
I was up Sunday and could not believe the parking lots in Altmar...holy crap!!! I was just out fishing by myself with a buddy and we took a drive up top...honestly...I think it was more crowded than a couple weeks ago!!!
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SNAGGER , clean out your mailbox ;)
ttyl
Vic
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SNAGGER , clean out your mailbox ;)
ttyl
Vic
I DID!! Hey Ice Geek that's how many cars there were TODAY!!!!!
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When you and Kpjr had that good steelhead day the water was 750cfs, it's still a low 335cfs! So the run you were fishing really doesn't exist right now, the fish are all holding a little farther upstream til the water hopefully goes back up someday!! we'll just half to show him another shore spot in the meantime! Catch ya later KP!!
I'll let him know!! He's home today with bronchitis and mild pnuemonia :( When he's feeling better you can show us the other place!! Hope to get him out this weekend! Have a great day!!--KP
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snagger im planning on coming up there in january or february when should i come and where should i fish???
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snagger im planning on coming up there in january or february when should i come and where should i fish???
Believe it or not, even though the Res. is low now, I have a funny feeling that were going to go through many high water periods this winter with frequent snowmelts! I would plan your trip at the last minute, that way you don't waste your time if the River is Blownout!
Most guys in the winter fish up River in altmar, but if the River is below 750cfs, don't overlook the mid and lower parts of the River. Sometimes it takes a little walking in deep snow, but is worth it!
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Believe it or not, even though the Res. is low now, I have a funny feeling that were going to go through many high water periods this winter with frequent snowmelts! I would plan your trip at the last minute, that way you don't waste your time if the River is Blownout!
Most guys in the winter fish up River in altmar, but if the River is below 750cfs, don't overlook the mid and lower parts of the River. Sometimes it takes a little walking in deep snow, but is worth it!
only problem i have to plan it out because i work every weekend and i was going to come up on a friday morning stay all day friday and sleep over friday night then come home on a saturday morning. so i can work saturday night.
i sorta have to plan 2 weeks ahead of time for wahtever fishin gi do. but i want to get some good jigging in on the SR
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only problem i have to plan it out because i work every weekend and i was going to come up on a friday morning stay all day friday and sleep over friday night then come home on a saturday morning. so i can work saturday night.
i sorta have to plan 2 weeks ahead of time for wahtever fishin gi do. but i want to get some good jigging in on the SR
Best jigging is usually Late January into February. The steelhead come into our system pretty healthy and don't really need to feed much, but after a couple months of sitting in high cold water they use alot of energy! This usually sets up a good mid winter jig bite most years! Higher the water, the more they'll need food to survive the winter until late winter Spawning occurs! 2 weeks notice, you can usually tell what the River will be like, unless we have a really bad El Nino winter!
Another thing to remember, you live on probably one of the best biting steelhead Streams in the State! Our river systems coming off the Tug Hill don't get much color like your creeks out west! I don't know what it is about water color, but any waterway that runs green or little off colored makes the steelhead bite alot better! You could be let down by our hook up ratio compared to yours!
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question for sack users. is it better to leave your eggs loose until closer to use or is it ok to tie them up in advance?
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question for sack users. is it better to leave your eggs loose until closer to use or is it ok to tie them up in advance?
I sent you a PM!!!!!! Almost forgot, we got a couple inches of snow this morning! It's already all melted and in the ground! More water for the Res.!!!!!!!!
This don't look like much, but this small band of snow is right over the drainage area for the Big Res. What ever snow they end up getting today, tonight and what fell last night will be melting when that Monster storm down in the gulf getts here Thursday!
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Big graupel pellets are falling right now pretty good!!
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WHERE'S TRAPPER?? ???
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KP, Hunting from what I know...
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Best jigging is usually Late January into February. The steelhead come into our system pretty healthy and don't really need to feed much, but after a couple months of sitting in high cold water they use alot of energy! This usually sets up a good mid winter jig bite most years! Higher the water, the more they'll need food to survive the winter until late winter Spawning occurs! 2 weeks notice, you can usually tell what the River will be like, unless we have a really bad El Nino winter!
Another thing to remember, you live on probably one of the best biting steelhead Streams in the State! Our river systems coming off the Tug Hill don't get much color like your creeks out west! I don't know what it is about water color, but any waterway that runs green or little off colored makes the steelhead bite alot better! You could be let down by our hook up ratio compared to yours!
thats the thing our lo tribs in WNY they run gin clear not much green. its seems the only really green rivers on LO is the genny and the lower niagara.
if we want green water we have to fish the erie tribs
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Good to know, I don't fish out there much anymore, but the Genny and the "Catt" is where I used to fish. They always ran green so I assumed they all did! This River in Altmar has had lockjaw for 2 days, except the lower fly Zone, but we all know how there hooking them! ;D Even the driftboats didn't hook anything around the schoolhouse all morning yesterday from what I was told by a couple guests! The fish got clobbered for 4 days over the holiday weekend and haven't recovered yet! Well catch ya later!
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Good to know, I don't fish out there much anymore, but the Genny and the "Catt" is where I used to fish. They always ran green so I assumed they all did! This River in Altmar has had lockjaw for 2 days, except the lower fly Zone, but we all know how there hooking them! ;D Even the driftboats didn't hook anything around the schoolhouse all morning yesterday from what I was told by a couple guests! The fish got clobbered for 4 days over the holiday weekend and haven't recovered yet! Well catch ya later!
i mean burt gets some green to it but its more like a olive stain green which it looks really ugly. an dpink seems to work really well in taht color water
and the bite at burt yesterday was pretty good.
all big fish
this rain should help out your rain situation over there in altmar
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i mean burt gets some green to it but its more like a olive stain green which it looks really ugly. an dpink seems to work really well in taht color water
and the bite at burt yesterday was pretty good.
all big fish
this rain should help out your rain situation over there in altmar
A little, only color we get is about 2 weeks during snowmelt in April! Catch ya later man!!!
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OFF TOPIC- NEED SOME HELP!! My daughter came home from school today and said that her teacher is giving the class an extra credit question!! Here it goes..... 6 men for 6 hours dig 6 holes, how long does it take 1 man to dig 1/2 hole??? Any ideas guys?? I think I've got the answer but unsure. Being a contractor, You'd think I'd have an idea!! Oh yeah, it's not 30 minutes!!!!! Fish on!!!--KP ;D
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Digging "half a hole" is like being "half pregnant"...
It just isn't possible.
It's either a hole or it ain't!
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wouldnt it be like 3 hours? you got 6 guys digging 6 holes. and if they dig the "entire" hole in 6 hours reduce that by half to get 3 hours? thats what i came up with for ya, but if its one of those logic questions im better trying to shoot my foot off
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i should have just shot my foot. according to the internet and the answer on there is 'there is no such thing as half a hole'
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Digging "half a hole" is like being "half pregnant"...
It just isn't possible.
It's either a hole or it ain't!
Great answer Jimmy, that's what I came up with!! We'll let the rest of the guys come up with some answers and see what we come up with!! Thanks--KP I would hope if i got my 6 guys digging holes that they don't dig half the hole!! ;D
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i should have just shot my foot. according to the internet and the answer on there is 'there is no such thing as half a hole'
that was my exact answer to my daughter, but was just checking!!! thanks--KP :)
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i should have just shot my foot. according to the internet and the answer on there is 'there is no such thing as half a hole'
You don't have to shoot your foot Bud!!! We're all human!!! ;D--KP
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DIDN'T MEAN TO " SNAG" YOUR THREAD SNAGGER!!! ;D--KP
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DIDN'T MEAN TO " SNAG" YOUR THREAD SNAGGER!!! ;D--KP
Stop promoting yourself KP, it's not enjoyable scrolling through all these jokes! :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:
Just got back from Oneida, pretty slow! I can't believe there was elbo to elbo people in the fly zone when I left at 1:30!!!!!
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Stop promoting yourself KP, it's not enjoyable scrolling through all these jokes! :w00t:
Just got back from Oneida, pretty slow! I can't believe there was elbo to elbo people in the fly zone when I left at 1:30!!!!!
No waldos to show huh!!! Did you get that camera yet??? Gotta see the pics, IN LARGE SIZE PLEASE!!!-- ;D Hope there will be some steelies to catch this weekend! Hope that me promoting myself on YOUR thread is not in the least DISCONCERTING!!! :w00t:--KP
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:nono: :nono: SELF PROMOTION :nono: :nono:
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I hope that for the next 24 hours that I don't become the next MFF troll!!! I really like this thread and all who contribute to this thread!!! EVEN YOU SNAGGER!! :rotflol: :w00t:--KP
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I hope that for the next 24 hours that I don't become the next MFF troll!!! I really like this thread and all who contribute to this thread!!! EVEN YOU SNAGGER!! :rotflol: :w00t:--KP
It's all Deadeyes falt, he hasn't been around to monitor his Thread! He could have told me with a Pm that I was out of controll! :w00t: When the Cat's away!! ::)
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i always liked snagger myself thought he was a good guy. But now all this self promotion stuff developed now i'm not so sure!!! :afro:
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Hey Big Jimmy, on the way back from Oneida, every corn field had hundreds of geese in them, it was insane. There was so many ducks flying by me at the Canal that once I had to stop casting for like 15 seconds or I would have hooked them. Probably 500 ducks flew by me!
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about time they start coming down i was getting nervous
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about time they start coming down i was getting nervous
Give me a call sometime, going over to IceShanty to do some more reading!!
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I'm coming up in a couple of weeks and need some eggs or eggsacks.
Any suggestions of the best place to get them?
Any info much appreciated! Thanks in advance!
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OFF TOPIC- NEED SOME HELP!! My daughter came home from school today and said that her teacher is giving the class an extra credit question!! Here it goes..... 6 men for 6 hours dig 6 holes, how long does it take 1 man to dig 1/2 hole??? Any ideas guys?? I think I've got the answer but unsure. Being a contractor, You'd think I'd have an idea!! Oh yeah, it's not 30 minutes!!!!! Fish on!!!--KP ;D
the answer is half an hour, because 5 of them were watching the one guy who felt he should actually work for his pay!!!! this is because they all were State workers, and the new guy didn't know any better yet!!!
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Hey SNAGGER, Are you promoting yourself any where else on the internet ??? ??? ???
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the answer is half an hour, because 5 of them were watching the one guy who felt he should actually work for his pay!!!! this is because they all were State workers, and the new guy didn't know any better yet!!!
3 hours because it took each of them 6 hours to dig one hole.
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Hey SNAGGER, Are you promoting yourself any where else on the internet ??? ??? ???
There is this one guy on IceShanty who has a half cleaned salmon in his avatar..
Picture of him pulling a fish out of a hole while comfortably siting in a chair, cig in mouth
with all this very expensive equipment around him..
He brags and calls himself the "Oneida Lake NorthShore Maniac"
Sports a Team New York logo...
And must be sponsored by Lowrance..
What an ego maniac...
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Thanks for the help Snagger! If I get more I'll let you know!
Smiple...
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the answer is half an hour, because 5 of them were watching the one guy who felt he should actually work for his pay!!!! this is because they all were State workers, and the new guy didn't know any better yet!!!
Its state EMPLOYEE not worker.....We are employed by the state, not working for them & the 1 guy was still on probation thats why he was working. lmao
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the answer is half an hour, because 5 of them were watching the one guy who felt he should actually work for his pay!!!! this is because they all were State workers, and the new guy didn't know any better yet!!!
Bunker, that there was funny!!! :rotflol: :w00t: TightLines--KP
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As a matter of fact, I think that flasher unit that he was using was a LOWRANCE!!! :w00t:--KP (Hey were those CABELA's camo pants he was wearing!!!!) ;D
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curious im tying egg sacks for the first time on my own with my own cured eggs. how come their not all coming out round? and are they supposed to be a little wet
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curious im tying egg sacks for the first time on my own with my own cured eggs. how come their not all coming out round? and are they supposed to be a little wet
If you didn't put a shell on them with cold water well ahead of curing them, they could be screwed up! They could just be too salted, add a touch of water, if they don't get round, then they are what they are. Might have to go get another female and try again. If they don't pop, there OK, just a little messy. Won't be setting any world speed records tieing is all! Good luck!!
Whaatttssuuppppp!!!!! KP!!
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Anybody have any good methods for tying sacs? I currently use a standard sliding thing that is sold at all the shops.
The wholesale tying must be done faster.
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Got just over an inch of rain here today! Most of the creeks were running pretty good, but by no means flooding or anything. With that said should have gained some good ground up at the Upper Res. today. Probably take a drive tomorrow to check it out. Got to be getting close now!!! Heard the fishing today picked up a little across the street compared to yesterday! Had one guest who fished multiple area's up River hook up 12 times today! Give em hell boys!
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Anybody have any good methods for tying sacs? I currently use a standard sliding thing that is sold at all the shops.
The wholesale tying must be done faster.
Hey Jason whats up!!! I've always used the Spawnee Company egg tieing machine for god 30 years, but most tackle shops buy the squares and tie by hand! If I get a good rhythm going I can tie 3 a minute! To tie fast, just got to have everything laid out on a big table with lots of room for scissors,eggs,thread, ect...! walmart sewing thread helps me make it faster!
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the answer is half an hour, because 5 of them were watching the one guy who felt he should actually work for his pay!!!! this is because they all were State workers, and the new guy didn't know any better yet!!!
That was my guess!
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Got just over an inch of rain here today! Most of the creeks were running pretty good, but by no means flooding or anything. With that said should have gained some good ground up at the Upper Res. today. Probably take a drive tomorrow to check it out. Got to be getting close now!!! Heard the fishing today picked up a little across the street compared to yesterday! Had one guest who fished multiple area's up River hook up 12 times today! Give em hell boys!
I would be interested to know where the res. is....if you take a drive please post something about the level :) Thx
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Hey Jason whats up!!! I've always used the Spawnee Company egg tieing machine for god 30 years, but most tackle shops buy the squares and tie by hand! If I get a good rhythm going I can tie 3 a minute! To tie fast, just got to have everything laid out on a big table with lots of room for scissors,eggs,thread, ect...! walmart sewing thread helps me make it faster!
I like tieing by hand...here's my setup....I have a 2x4 where I drilled about 10 holes maybe 1/2 inch deep with a spade bit...sand out rpugh endes on wood...then take your squares of spawn netting, and lay ove rthe holes....spoon some eggs on top, punch down in the hole, grab top of spawn net which now has eggs in it, spin once or twice and then a couple loops around with thread and you are good to go....great way to mass produce them!...at least it works for me ...then again I've probably tied about 100,000 sacs in my lifetime!
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I would be interested to know where the res. is....if you take a drive please post something about the level :) Thx
Checked stream gauges, creeks are dropping FAST. So I won't be driving up today, got walleye to get, but I will probably go tomorrow. If you remember when they blew that water around columbus day weekend the Upper Res. was 4 feet down, that's where the Upper Res. is probably at now. So after the weekends over, never know what those guys up there might do! We'll see! Cool egg sac contraption!
Oh almost forgot, my guys are hammering the steelies today in Altmar! Talked to one guy, he says ALOT of people are hooking up regularly! Bottom bouncing flies!! Parking lots are 3/4 Full again!!
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PHEW!!!
Just finished reading all 192 pages in this thread.
This is my favorite thread of all times on any forum.
Great reading plus I learned a lot.
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Parking lots are 3/4 Full again!!
Unreal!!!
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34079964/ns/us_news-environment (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34079964/ns/us_news-environment)
Just wanted to bring this forward again. It's the piece about asian carp from November 24th!!
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my eggs are round and bouncy. as far as i can tell their fine. its my eggs sacks themselve that are not all coming out round. like 1 out of 5 to 3 out of 5 are coming out where their more eliptical than round.
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my eggs are round and bouncy. as far as i can tell their fine. its my eggs sacks themselve that are not all coming out round. like 1 out of 5 to 3 out of 5 are coming out where their more eliptical than round.
Take a picture of them and post it.
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There's that place on 13 that says it's the home of "Blue Goo".
What is Blue Goo?
The only Blue Goo I know of is the stuff in a jar you put on aching muscles.
And it works for me.
Last time up a guy gave me a small amount of some kinda blue goo stuff in a chewing gum wrapper.
He said to put it on my bead. Tried it. But didn't seem to make a difference.
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There's that place on 13 that says it's the home of "Blue Goo".
What is Blue Goo?
The only Blue Goo I know of is the stuff in a jar you put on aching muscles.
And it works for me.
Last time up a guy gave me a small amount of some kinda blue goo stuff in a chewing gum wrapper.
He said to put it on my bead. Tried it. But didn't seem to make a difference.
I always thought Rick at Pineville just created that stuff to hook out of towners for a couple extra bucks!!! :D
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I always thought Rick at Pineville just created that stuff to hook out of towners for a couple extra bucks!!! :D
You should be called the MythBuster! ;D
Here's another one for you -
Does the bloodspot on a bead make a difference?
Also, the same guy that gave me the blue goo stuff,
looked around to make sure no one was listening and whispered
that I should paint a white spot (instead of red) on my bead.
Reason for asking this bead stuff is all new to me.
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You should be called the MythBuster! ;D
Here's another one for you -
Does the bloodspot on a bead make a difference?
Also, the same guy that gave me the blue goo stuff,
looked around to make sure no one was listening and whispered
that I should paint a white spot (instead of red) on my bead.
Reason for asking this bead stuff is all new to me.
Ever look at an egg that comes straight out of a steelheads stomach at the tail end of the salmon run (those catch and release guys haven't), all the dead eggs they pick up have a solid core, not red or white, but a dull solid Orange surrounded by a yellowish outside,when you throw these in the water they have a white appearance to them, thus why white sacs work good alot of the time I believe! Apricots, mottled apricot, peach or cream or whatever these companies called them with solid core or swirls is the closest I've found to a real dead egg out of a steelheads stomach! Alot of my friends use nail polish to make the bead give off a white shine to it! Hope this helps, I don't fish beads much!! Later!
I just ordered something that could be the next hot ticket on the River, We'll see!!
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Hey Kingperch did you fish the River today? Heard the schoolhouse slowed a little, but the barrel was good today again, that's all I know, went walleye fishing! Catch ya later!
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here are a few examples of the not so round egg sacks that i have tied already
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Nothing wrong with those. There spectacular. The ones that are just a touch bigger, I like popping an egg every other cast or so to the juice the hole on slower days. If your going to tie ahead, tie a bunch of colors, that way you got all the bases covered! Nothing wrong with those sac's man!! Later!
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ok thanks. ill have to get some more netting all i have is red and orange.
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My favorites are pink and white, chartruse in off colored waters. I've recently had good luck with purple( it's actually very see through) but can't find a soft material in that color!
Here's the lastest lake temps on the Big"O"
Time to start paying close attention to the local radars.
Looks like Lake effect season is about ready to start!
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Going to be the first Significant lake effect Snow somewhere,
behind wednesday's storm on Thursday & Friday!
I can't wait, Come on Snow!!
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we have had 2 lake effect storms over here, both maybe equaling out to be about 4 inches of snow and the storms lasted all day....
i want it to snow more. less people will fish
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Man that jig fishing at Dunkirk really looks like a blast Ipv89! I wish it wasn't so far away! You got it made out there!! Looks like one of my old fishin holes in the Finger Lakes! This River out here is way too crowded, I wish there was a dock like that close by here! enjoy man!!
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Hay Snagger last night we got our first *** snow of the season a hole 3.5 inches. As i look out the window its almost already melted. I cant wait till this weekends trip i hope we get a blizzard at the house all weekend!!!!!!!! How do you think the fishing pressure will be? Do you still have any of the black plastic 8x10 frames that you showed me? Mentzys picture came out so good i got a 8x10 made for the wall. If not i will pick one up this week. Your old pictures came out good as well. I will see you Friday morning i just hope i don't have any trouble getting in with the lake affect. Keep me posted and i will keep an eye on the radar closer to the end of the week. ;)
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It's beginning to look a lot like Steelhead season,Everywhere you go.. :D
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Hey Lehigh how are you doning? It snowed all day here but only about an inch stuck. The creek is cranking. Wish I was going with you next week. Got to work on my jimmy. Good luck, and tight lines.
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Hey Lehigh how are you dining? It snowed all day here but only about an inch stuck. The creek is cranking. Wish I was going with you next week. Got to work on my jimmy. Good luck, and tight lines.
I'm not sure when your planing your next trip but i was going to fish Christmas weekend to but i think I'm going to hold out till the following week and go up Wednesday till Sunday. That will be it for a while after that one. I usually take a brake in January. I will have made 22 trips this year come that weekend. I hope it snows like hell every day!!!!!! ;D ;D So far this season has bean a good one. Just need to keep on the move with all the people that are around and hit a lot of spots in one day. See ya soon
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I'm not sure when your planing your next trip but i was going to fish Christmas weekend to but i think I'm going to hold out till the following week and go up Wednesday till Sunday. That will be it for a while after that one. I usually take a brake in January. I will have made 22 trips this year come that weekend. I hope it snows like hell every day!!!!!! ;D ;D So far this season has bean a good one. Just need to keep on the move with all the people that are around and hit a lot of spots in one day. See ya soon
I had some pictures for you LV, but right when I was loading them it it short circuited again! Everything is white finally, they had the plows out today for the first time this year. Finally looks like December, got about 2-3 inches of wet snow and still off/on whiteouts! It's great!!!
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Does this look famillar!
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Looks good Snagger I hope i drive rite into a blizzard Friday morning!!! let me know about the picture frame for mentzy picture.
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Looks good Snagger I hope i drive rite into a blizzard Friday morning!!! let me know about the picture frame for mentzy picture.
Hey LV did you look in that photo, least amount of cars since late October, nothing like a good old fashion whiteout to get rid of a few guys! Got no fishing reports today, but heard many new fish were being caught yesterday by friends coming through the rapids in Pulaski! Got no frames LV!! Catch ya later!
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I'm not sure when your planing your next trip but i was going to fish Christmas weekend to but i think I'm going to hold out till the following week and go up Wednesday till Sunday. That will be it for a while after that one. I usually take a brake in January. I will have made 22 trips this year come that weekend. I hope it snows like hell every day!!!!!! ;D ;D So far this season has bean a good one. Just need to keep on the move with all the people that are around and hit a lot of spots in one day. See ya soon
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I am going to Maine the for ice fishing new years day. good luck. That snow looks great. Hey snagger check out the upgrades I made to my jet sled on iceshanty.
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I'm not sure when your planing your next trip but i was going to fish Christmas weekend to but i think I'm going to hold out till the following week and go up Wednesday till Sunday. That will be it for a while after that one. I usually take a brake in January. I will have made 22 trips this year come that weekend. I hope it snows like hell every day!!!!!! ;D ;D So far this season has bean a good one. Just need to keep on the move with all the people that are around and hit a lot of spots in one day. See ya soon
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I am going to Maine the for ice fishing new years day. good luck. That snow looks great. Hey snagger check out the upgrades I made to my jet sled on iceshanty.
Good luck on your ice fishing trip to the State of maine on the first Wirestone, should have good ice by then up there if this stupid storm track would slide a little to the east!
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Only 4 cars in the Altmar north parking lot,
amazing what a couple inches of snow will do!
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I don't have a whole lot to add. I have been fishing the village area of the river in the mornings 4 or 5 days a week and the fishings good.
Pink worms, 8mm beads and pink sacs. Seems to be a fair amount of fish around and fewer anglers each time.
Snagger thanks for the PM. I have been getting phone pics from fishit this afternoon while I am at work. - Makes for a long day :-X
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Hey Kingperch did you fish the River today? Heard the schoolhouse slowed a little, but the barrel was good today again, that's all I know, went walleye fishing! Catch ya later!
No!!! >:( Was taking care of the rest of the firewood I had delivered!!! Had other things to tend to, like yourself, before old man winter comes again!!! Spent the remainder of the day till dark in the woods!! No bighorns this year. Can't wait for ice!!! :tipup: Take care SNAGGER!!!--KP
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I don't have a whole lot to add. I have been fishing the village area of the river in the mornings 4 or 5 days a week and the fishings good.
Pink worms, 8mm beads and pink sacs. Seems to be a fair amount of fish around and fewer anglers each time.
Snagger thanks for the PM. I have been getting phone pics from fishit this afternoon while I am at work. - Makes for a long day :-X
I should have went where fish it is fishing instead of Oneida! I did stop at the Upper Res. on the way back, GREAT NEWS!!! Just about back to normal now. Only 2 feet of room left and only a foot down from the boards on the top of the Cement at the dam! Any snowmelt or decent rains now and they'll be forced to raise the River!! Gonna be a close call on late Wednesday with rain in the forecast after some more snow! We'll see!
What's happening KP!!
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WHHHHHHAAAAATTTTTTSSSSSSSUUUUUUPPPPPPP????????!!!!!!! SNAGGER!!!!!
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Ok, Snagger I will pick one up this week befor I come up. And yes i did look very hard into the picture to see how meany cars there were, it was the first thing i was looking for. I hope it stays that way till spring!!!!!!!!! Who was fishing in town that we know? Did you get your new computer yeat?
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Ok, Snagger I will pick one up this week befor I come up. And yes i did look very hard into the picture to see how meany cars there were, it was the first thing i was looking for. I hope it stays that way till spring!!!!!!!!! Who was fishing in town that we know? Did you get your new computer yeat?
Danbo had a 30 hook up day, but timed that good weather just right! Nope on the computer!
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I should have went where fish it is fishing instead of Oneida! I did stop at the Upper Res. on the way back, GREAT NEWS!!! Just about back to normal now. Only 2 feet of room left and only a foot down from the boards on the top of the Cement at the dam! Any snowmelt or decent rains now and they'll be forced to raise the River!! Gonna be a close call on late Wednesday with rain in the forecast after some more snow! We'll see!
What's happening KP!!
Thanks for the res. report Snagger....
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That's ok, good weather or bad will give em hell!!!!!!!!! See ya Friday morning.
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I was watching the weather thats all the snow you got up there?
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flowcast says "don't worry...be happy!"
goin to 750cfs tonite! wish i could be there thursday and friday! enjoy, everyone!!!!-Paul
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flowcast says "don't worry...be happy!"
goin to 750cfs tonite! wish i could be there thursday and friday! enjoy, everyone!!!!-Paul
Thanks Paul. ABOUT TIME!!! we picked up another 4 inches of wet Lake Effect last night. Now the tug is developing a shallow snowpack with more coming, then snowmelt and Rain.. She could be full then. It's going to be a close call as to whether we melt everything up top or just add rain to the snowpack!!! Makes or breaks how long it's 750, 4 days or 3 weeks!!!!!!! Or they could run 1150 for 4 days, then slam it back to 335!! We'll see, could be Colosal Lake Effect Snows over the Tug on Thursday- Saturday, putting an end to any runoff for a while!
El Nino winter, could be a crazy water release winter!!!!!!!!
Can you say 1800!!
Check out this massive storm!
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With the storm track going through Michigan, I don't how were not going to melt all the snow up here with warm rain/wind and send the River Ripping!!!
Last nights squalls!
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Wow that's some old footage Jimmy! We got big water coming if this Snow melts with Rain! Either way were all set for the winter now, even if it got cold as hell like last year for 2 months. With 3 storms in 2 weeks following that same storm track, I think we have alot of Melts coming this winter!
Looks like another great steelhead winter with this new water!
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THAT'S FUNNY RIGHT THERE Jimmy!!!!! :w00t:--KP
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Hey KP now all those steelies that were stuck in Pulaski will run up river and winter over in Altmar. If we get cheated on our Oneida Ice fishing this winter, can always wack a few steelies across the street with your son! ;D
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Latest weather forecast for Oswego county from the National weather service:
SNOW WILL OVERSPREAD THE EASTERN LAKE ONTARIO REGION LATE TONIGHT
AND CONTINUE THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING. THE SNOW IS EXPECTED TO
MIX WITH OR CHANGE TO SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN WEDNESDAY MORNING...
THEN CHANGE TO JUST PLAIN RAIN BY MIDDAY WEDNESDAY.
EXPECT 3 TO 5 INCHES OF SNOW ACCUMULATION...WITH A TENTH OF AN
INCH OR LESS OF ICE ACCUMULATION. THE GREATEST SNOW AMOUNTS ARE
EXPECTED ACROSS THE TUG HILL REGION AND THE WESTERN FOOTHILLS OF
THE ADIRONDACKS.
BY LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT MUCH COLDER AIR MOVING INTO THE AREA ON
THE BACK SIDE OF THE STORM WILL BEGIN TO PRODUCE BANDS OF LAKE
EFFECT SNOW RIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY. STRONG WINDS COMBINED WITH THE LAKE
EFFECT SNOW WILL LIKELY PRODUCE VERY DIFFICULT DRIVING WITH NEAR
BLIZZARD CONDITIONS AT TIMES. THE HEAVIEST LAKE EFFECT SNOW WILL
START UP NEAR WATERTOWN AND CARTHAGE AND THEN DRIFT
SOUTH...TARGETING THE TUG HILL PLATEAU THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE
TIME. ACCUMULATIONS THROUGH FRIDAY IN THE MOST PERSISTENT LAKE
SNOW AREAS WILL LIKELY EXCEED 3 FEET.
Maybe this will thin out the crowds, 21 cars at the parking lot today at 3pm, insane!! Nice talkin to you Jimmy, you've lead some life man!!
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;D
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Latest weather forecast for Oswego county from the National weather service:
SNOW WILL OVERSPREAD THE EASTERN LAKE ONTARIO REGION LATE TONIGHT
AND CONTINUE THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING. THE SNOW IS EXPECTED TO
MIX WITH OR CHANGE TO SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN WEDNESDAY MORNING...
THEN CHANGE TO JUST PLAIN RAIN BY MIDDAY WEDNESDAY.
EXPECT 3 TO 5 INCHES OF SNOW ACCUMULATION...WITH A TENTH OF AN
INCH OR LESS OF ICE ACCUMULATION. THE GREATEST SNOW AMOUNTS ARE
EXPECTED ACROSS THE TUG HILL REGION AND THE WESTERN FOOTHILLS OF
THE ADIRONDACKS.
BY LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT MUCH COLDER AIR MOVING INTO THE AREA ON
THE BACK SIDE OF THE STORM WILL BEGIN TO PRODUCE BANDS OF LAKE
EFFECT SNOW RIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY. STRONG WINDS COMBINED WITH THE LAKE
EFFECT SNOW WILL LIKELY PRODUCE VERY DIFFICULT DRIVING WITH NEAR
BLIZZARD CONDITIONS AT TIMES. THE HEAVIEST LAKE EFFECT SNOW WILL
START UP NEAR WATERTOWN AND CARTHAGE AND THEN DRIFT
SOUTH...TARGETING THE TUG HILL PLATEAU THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE
TIME. ACCUMULATIONS THROUGH FRIDAY IN THE MOST PERSISTENT LAKE
SNOW AREAS WILL LIKELY EXCEED 3 FEET.
Maybe this will thin out the crowds, 21 cars at the parking lot today at 3pm, insane!! Nice talkin to you Jimmy, you've lead some life man!!
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hey man i'm home and the beast is ready to plow!!!!
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hey man i'm home and the beast is ready to plow!!!!
What an adventure you had with that thing, got feet on the blade! Or we'll be plowing up worms!! ;D Talked to Nate today, he's ready for Ice!!
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when i went through mass. a couple of lakes had a skim coat on them i got excited!!!
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when i went through mass. a couple of lakes had a skim coat on them i got excited!!!
When we going down the River now that it's up, haven't been down in a while. Heard there hitting plugs!! You can show me how to use my float rods!! :D
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thursday or friday give this stuff a little while to calm down!! have to set up the plow in the am.
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wow woke up for class here snagger and its pouring out. we got some snow to stick last night i think its all soup on the ground currently. this aught to be a fun ride in today
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Man we own land up on Dam Road in Orwell and I have yet to get up there to see a good snow. 3 Feet that sounds like fun. Bob
Latest weather forecast for Oswego county from the National weather service:
SNOW WILL OVERSPREAD THE EASTERN LAKE ONTARIO REGION LATE TONIGHT
AND CONTINUE THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING. THE SNOW IS EXPECTED TO
MIX WITH OR CHANGE TO SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN WEDNESDAY MORNING...
THEN CHANGE TO JUST PLAIN RAIN BY MIDDAY WEDNESDAY.
EXPECT 3 TO 5 INCHES OF SNOW ACCUMULATION...WITH A TENTH OF AN
INCH OR LESS OF ICE ACCUMULATION. THE GREATEST SNOW AMOUNTS ARE
EXPECTED ACROSS THE TUG HILL REGION AND THE WESTERN FOOTHILLS OF
THE ADIRONDACKS.
BY LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT MUCH COLDER AIR MOVING INTO THE AREA ON
THE BACK SIDE OF THE STORM WILL BEGIN TO PRODUCE BANDS OF LAKE
EFFECT SNOW RIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY. STRONG WINDS COMBINED WITH THE LAKE
EFFECT SNOW WILL LIKELY PRODUCE VERY DIFFICULT DRIVING WITH NEAR
BLIZZARD CONDITIONS AT TIMES. THE HEAVIEST LAKE EFFECT SNOW WILL
START UP NEAR WATERTOWN AND CARTHAGE AND THEN DRIFT
SOUTH...TARGETING THE TUG HILL PLATEAU THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE
TIME. ACCUMULATIONS THROUGH FRIDAY IN THE MOST PERSISTENT LAKE
SNOW AREAS WILL LIKELY EXCEED 3 FEET.
Maybe this will thin out the crowds, 21 cars at the parking lot today at 3pm, insane!! Nice talkin to you Jimmy, you've lead some life man!!
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well im ready to hurt some steelhead so come on up boys ;D hey kp shane is really in trouble with the yanks getting granderson get the cry towels ready :w00t:
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Excuse Me Mr. Mahar Could you please explain the long term forcast to us? Just want to make sure its right.
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Hey lambaste em Hows SS looking these days?
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Excuse Me Mr. Mahar Could you please explain the long term forcast to us? Just want to make sure its right.
You should see it up here now wayno, worst east winds I've seen here in 16 years, Shane's garage is pretty mangled up, well going out to try work on it!
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Man we own land up on Dam Road in Orwell and I have yet to get up there to see a good snow. 3 Feet that sounds like fun. Bob
That's a seasonal road isn't it? You won't see that road til April!
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Hey Snagger, did you send Dave out to work on the garage himself and stay warm by your computer?
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No we are on the year round end near pipe line road.
I'm sure I won't get back on my land till April. Bob
That's a seasonal road isn't it? You won't see that road til April!
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Yeah we got water!!! ;D ;D
750 CFS!!! New fish are coming!!! :clapping: :rotflol: :thumbup_smilie: :flex:
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Thanks for the pic Mayor, hope it settles down a bit
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Hay Lambaste em, I will be up Friday morning lets do something this weekend!!!!!
Hay Northwoods, I would love to go with you and Shane to learn a few things if you could do it Friday morning i will be passing the launch at about 6am ;D ;D
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Hey KP now all those steelies that were stuck in Pulaski will run up river and winter over in Altmar. If we get cheated on our Oneida Ice fishing this winter, can always wack a few steelies across the street with your son! ;D
Sounds like the work schedule is falling in place just nicely!!! ;D I hope we don't get skunked off the Onieda ice fishing!!! Oh well, if we do, the steelies are in trouble!!! ;D Just gotta pretend they look like PERCH!!!! :w00t:--KP
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well im ready to hurt some steelhead so come on up boys ;D hey kp shane is really in trouble with the yanks getting granderson get the cry towels ready :w00t:
I'm sure the towels are already wet!!! :w00t: Good to hear from you Dave!!! I'm thinking the Yanks win again next year!! Dave and I are SORRY for hi-jacking your thread SNAGGER!!! ::) GO YANKEES!!!!! --KP
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Snagger how much snow do you think Altmar will see from the lake affect???
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Sounds like the work schedule is falling in place just nicely!!! ;D I hope we don't get skunked off the Onieda ice fishing!!! Oh well, if we do, the steelies are in trouble!!! ;D Just gotta pretend they look like PERCH!!!! :w00t:--KP
No not skunked KP, getting skunked doesn't bother me, I meant if there isn't safe ice, always wack some steelies to kill time waiting for good ice! Who are the Yankees going to dump in there outfield, not Damen I hope, he single handedly got you there! ;D
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Quote from: lehigh vally on Dec 09, 2009, 08:13 PM
Snagger how much snow do you think Altmar will see from the lake affect???
You know how it goes up here, one town gets 3 feet while another 10 miles away get's nothing! Latest info says this will be a long lived organised band of Squalls! 4-5 inches per hour for 2 days. Hopefully being so early in the season, we will get lightning and thunder too! I hope it stalls out for a day over altmar/parish area like it does sometimes and drops 4 feet, I'm ready, lets get this show on the road already!
And heres a SHOUT OUT for all you guys who fished the River in 55 mph winds, downed tree branches and Snow/rain today! You guys are HARD CORE man!!!!! I was looking over at you while I was shoveling the drifts and repairing my roof from wind damage! Literally sliced my metal roof off, broke an upstairs door right off the hinges, and broke a tree in half out back. hey Daredevil you have no tarps left on your lake boat!! What a day, strongest east winds I've seen since the march of 93 storm.
Did get a decent amount of rain put in the snowpack, but no big run off, looks like 750cfs, not 1800cfs for a while, but who knows with them guys at the power co.!
hey Ice geek, 11 cars at the altmar north lot this morning, can you believe it!
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Snagger hows the snow coming down? Or is most of it north of you?
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Nice pictures Warmachine, looks like you had a great year with your float fishing!
Hey RD, it's way too windy right now for us towns closer to the lake to get anything good, it's getting blown up into Tug hill and western facing adirondacks. Very disorganised band of snow, maybe tomorrow if the winds settle down a bit!
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Thanks for that professional yet infomative response Mr. Mahar.
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Thanks for that professional yet infomative response Mr. Mahar.
What's happening there Weenie, did you show those pic's of your deer to my uncle Johnny! You had a good year down there, heard from Randolph or Clapp lately?
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Dahmer was huntin down the road when i shot the bigger one. He killed at least 5 bucks. I have not heard from Chris. Jamies dad died and me and dahmer are going to calling hours later. I have not talked to john in quite a while.
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Were you able to keep the barn intact? That wind was pretty bad here as well.
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No not skunked KP, getting skunked doesn't bother me, I meant if there isn't safe ice, always wack some steelies to kill time waiting for good ice! Who are the Yankees going to dump in there outfield, not Damen I hope, he single handedly got you there! ;D
Gotcha SNAGGER!!! Steelie fishing would be a great break in the action right about now! Let's hope the cold temps hang around for awhile so we can SAFELY get onto the ice!!! I don't wanna see anybody get dumped in the outfield for the YANKEES, but it's gonna be someone!!! Maybe, MELKY!! :(--Talk to you later. See if Dave is fishing this Sunday, I'll take a trip up!--KP :)
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hey Ice geek, 11 cars at the altmar north lot this morning, can you believe it!
WOW!...I was sitting at my desk today thinking about the river...that's as close as I got!
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WOW!...I was sitting at my desk today thinking about the river...that's as close as I got!
Well the steelhead are getting a much deserved break from most anglers with this extreme weather, only flurries and wind here, but a Monster Squall has just kicked into overdrive just north of here! look at this Radar;
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Found another pic of our little buddy with a summertime brown!
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Is that a River fish Snagger?
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Hey Snagger,
Know you what Warmachime looks like now... :D
I was there most of those days when caugh them fish!
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Is that a River fish Snagger?
Yep, I think he got it out of the schoolhouse! Last summer was real cold, there was some browns around from time to time, nothing major, but nice ones!
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Hey Snagger,
Know you what Warmachime looks like now... :D
I was there most of those days when caugh them fish!
He looks like one of my guests from PA. heard there killing them on plugs over here from a few friends, even before the water went up! Should get pretty good for float fishing, now that we have some water!
Heres a big one he got float fishing with a jig in November!
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Yes they have been doing good on plugs and beads in the boats. Monday I did good hooked four landed one Bow. All the fish where big the Bow was shy but a good fighter. Tuseday the river slowed down a lot! Even the boats where not doing as good as they did last week.
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Hey snagger are you getting any of that lake effect, or is it going north?
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Yep, I think he got it out of the schoolhouse! Last summer was real cold, there was some browns around from time to time, nothing major, but nice ones!
YO SNAGGER, FINALLY DOWNED A NICE 10 POINT IN JERSEY AND IM READY FOR A COUPLE DAYS UP THERE. LOOKS LIKE 750 CFS TIL SUNDAY NIGHT. I WILL BE WATCHING THE WATER AND WILL BE READY. ANYTHING CRAZY HAPPENS LET ME KNOW.
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Hey snagger are you getting any of that lake effect, or is it going north?
Just swung down here in the last 2 hours. Shoveled at 1pm, 3-4 inches new at 2pm, WOW Lowville got hammered!!! Hey goosebuster Rob is 5 for 13 this morning, he said the camo drift boat blistered them up there in the same area.
Heres the Squall!
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Sweet picture Snagger.. I bet it would be easy to find a parking spot along the river. I hope its not like that on the Thruway tomorrow going to the ice show in Syracuse..
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Just swung down here in the last 2 hours. Shoveled at 1pm, 3-4 inches new at 2pm, WOW Lowville got hammered!!! Hey goosebuster Rob is 5 for 13 this morning, he said a camo drift boat blistered them up there on floats with him! Heres the Squall!
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thats baby snow ;D
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Just swung down here in the last 2 hours. Shoveled at 1pm, 3-4 inches new at 2pm, WOW Lowville got hammered!!! Hey goosebuster Rob is 5 for 13 this morning, he said a camo drift boat blistered them up there on floats with him! Heres the Squall!
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NOW THAT IS MY KIND OF FISHING WEATHER!!!!!!!!!! Can't wait till tomrrow.
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NOW THAT IS MY KIND OF FISHING WEATHER!!!!!!!!!! Can't wait till tomrrow.
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SNAGGER, Your getting some pretty nasty weather Buddy!! I was working in volney today and it was sunny all day. Got to Mexico and it was terrible driving to home. getting some pretty good accumulation here now!!! Stay warm to all and tightlines!!!--KP :)
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SNAGGER, Your getting some pretty nasty weather Buddy!! I was working in volney today and it was sunny all day. Got to Mexico and it was terrible driving to home. getting some pretty good accumulation here now!!! Stay warm to all and tightlines!!!--KP :)
Hey KP I forgot, that spot you did good with your son in October is back now with the 750cfs. It's good too!
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How does the water come down the river when the water is raised from the power authorities?
On the Pineville USGS chart it shows the water rising the entire amount within minutes.
So does the water change hit for example the Altmar bridge instantly.
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No it doesnt change instantly snagger should be able to give you a good idea of the time table it takes to get to each spot. I think it is like an hour and a half to get to elis cove. Snagger I was talking to your midget buddy earlier he said that him and his boy get into some nice browns. Havnt heard from you guys in a while what happened you dont like jersey guys any more or what. Oh by the way get that stupid boston thing off ur signature. ;D ;D
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No it doesnt change instantly snagger should be able to give you a good idea of the time table it takes to get to each spot. I think it is like an hour and a half to get to elis cove. Snagger I was talking to your midget buddy earlier he said that him and his boy get into some nice browns. Havnt heard from you guys in a while what happened you dont like jersey guys any more or what. Oh by the way get that stupid boston thing off ur signature. ;D ;D
It changes pretty fast, you should see it when they raise it to 8 or 12 thousand, hits the altmar bridge like a wave, then over the road! Hey dave I figured now that your married, you'de call me. :P
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The wave is what I was wondering about. Thanks guys.
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The wave is what I was wondering about. Thanks guys.
No wave from 335 to 750, the power company is under contract to only raise water after dark. So you woudn't be in the water when it raises anyways! Didn't snow enough today to make the parking lots impassable,stopped just in time! shoudn't be any hitches to the float tournament, unless the squall over Parish moves back north! Hey KP looks like your getting pounded, you might get 2 feet, we only ended up with 13 inches which is blowing away right now! Not bad for 4 hours! Heard Tug Hill got 40+ inches!!
Starting to snow again!!!
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SNAGGER, Your getting some pretty nasty weather Buddy!! I was working in volney today and it was sunny all day. Got to Mexico and it was terrible driving to home. getting some pretty good accumulation here now!!! Stay warm to all and tightlines!!!--KP :)
Hey KP almost 12 hours later and your still getting pounded! You must have 2 feet or more by now!! Goodnight!
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A better weather day today and good fishing from the guys I talked too in altmar. The guys I watched fish were bottom bouncing flies! LV had another great day. Not as many people in Town this afternoon as this morning with the River almost empty right now! The lots are plowed out!!
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What does me getting married have to do with calling you. My feelings are hurt you used to call me :'( :'(. Well I guess you boston fans just dont like us jersey boys. When you gonna come over to the yankees?? Whats up with the non resident liscense doubling. They dont make enough money on all the tickets durring salmon season.
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to be honest the DEC pressure was very light this year unless you were blatantly breaking the law.
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What does me getting married have to do with calling you. My feelings are hurt you used to call me . Well I guess you boston fans just dont like us jersey boys. When you gonna come over to the yankees?? Whats up with the non resident liscense doubling. They dont make enough money on all the tickets durring salmon season.
See what happens when you and bill S stop coming up, you bankrupted the state's general fund! You REALLY should come up soon, the fishing is getting good! Egg sacs under the bead today!
Hey all you center pinning lurkers, I'm getting ready to start carrying more pinning equipment for some of my guests that are about to make the leap from bottom bouncing/ noodle/spin floating, I all ready own a Raven I got in 2000 and a St. croix from 2003, but I always ran mono, never really made the leap, mostly use my noodle rods with floats for 29 years on the finger lakes and mostly the big sandies up here!! Heres my first question what line do you like better siglon or the P-line hrydrafloat? THANKS!!
Another question, if I was to carry beginner reels and rods, I plan on grabbing a few okuma's Sheffields, but what exact reels and rods(since there are many of both by Okuma/Sheffield) have you had good luck with? choices are Aventa- Sheffield- shefield with star drag/ guide select rod-aventa- Shefield and shefield combo's! THANKS!!!
Simplecarpie, Warmachine and FishinJason what you guys running? THANKS!
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Simplecarpie, Warmachine and FishinJason what you guys running? THANKS!
Merry Christmas Snagger!!!
I am using a Noodle Rod for the time being. I would have to say, if you are used bottom bouncing. Take your raven rod Put on your Steelhead Spinning reel and use that. Get a Center pin reel too and just play with it in the yard..lol.. ITS NOT AS EASY AS IT LOOKS!! I am using a 10.5 foot Browning rod soon to upgrade to a Six river float Rod. I am going to stay with the Spinning reel this winter but will get a nice pinning reel for Next fall run..I am Running Six lb test in the winter right to the hook, in the fall I am running Ten lb fireline with floucarbon (10 lb) Snagger, Shotting the line is what make this whole thing work. What a difference from the shot you gave me from the stuff I was using.
The only difference the way I fish with the noddle rod and a pinning rod is I have to open my bail up. I catch just as many as the rest of them. Also my drifts are shorter.. Woo Hoo.. ;D
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Hey KP almost 12 hours later and your still getting pounded! You must have 2 feet or more by now!! Goodnight!
Sorry to get back to you late SNAG, we got 13 inches!!!!! Going to give the river a try this afternoon! I'll stop in and say HELLO!!!--KP
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Hey Carpie I have a float reel, I bought it in 2000 with the Raven rod, never learned how to long distance cast it though (can't be that hard), I used it for years on the Sandies when only 1 or 2 people owned one back then and a few Canadians, not much casting over there though! It always seemed like too much rod for the fish, took the fun out of it. Had a fly rod and mono in my hands since I was nine years old. I've used the center Pinn reel with the clicker on to lift salmon with for years in the larger pools, it's a riot! The reason I've always stuck with the noodle rod and float 90% of the time, you can easily change from float fishing to bottom fishing and back to float when I would walk 3 or 4 miles a day, now with my bad ACLs, might as well just fish the Pinn like everyone else. I hate being like everyone else though, just got to be me, but getting older, so guess I just got to be one of the crowd now! All that staggered lead, what a drag setting these up is going to be, can't wait for the power worm/jig bite, I hate tying elaborate rigs! Guess I got to do it though!! What ever happen to the good ole days!! THANKS FOR THE INPUT CARPIE!!!!!
Hey Carpie, I got a couple guys who stay here that use baitcasting reels instead of Pinns. It free spools then just click the lever over and you got 6 to 1 gear ratio, steelhead don't have a chance!!!!
Hey Ice Geek only 4 cars in the lot, looking at the Barrel, nobody in it!!!!
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Snagger,
Keep an eye open for Fishingjason he mite stop in to see you...we fished the staircase and the trestle this morning and only had a couple of fish on...I am still learning this river so just got to put my time in...I really like the baitcaster with a noodle rod it works great for quick line management...
How are your knees doing when walking thru this slop on the shores? It's such a nice tearing feeling when your foot slips out just enough to stretch the ACL...I love those days....Oxycotins are a good remedy..haha...
Might fish up your way all day Monday. Are you going to be out?
Fishit
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Hay Snagger, we had a hell of a ride home this morning freezing rain to sleet and snow to rain then all snow in the pa mountains then back to rain. I didn't even know 81 was icy till I tried to slow down for a 3 car accident south of Cortland in the median and couldn't stop :o!!!!!
Thanks again for the grate weekend well see you in 3 weeks. Tell Dave to be ready to go nex trip. No excuses this time!! :P :P
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Hay Snagger, we had a hell of a ride home this morning freezing rain to sleet and snow to rain then all snow in the pa mountains then back to rain. I didn't even know 81 was icy till I tried to slow down for a 3 car accident south of Cortland in the median and couldn't stop :o!!!!!
Thanks again for the grate weekend well see you in 3 weeks. Tell Dave to be ready to go nex trip. No excuses this time!! :P :P
Drove to the Ice Show in Syracuse and seen 6 vehicles off the road and witnessed 2 of them go off, still was icy on the way home an hour ago, was right next to a bus that slammed into a car in the fast lane as I was turning off on to the Mexico exit. If that exit wasn't there, I would have been in the middle of it. Pretty exciting to say the least, especially with my skinns on, I got get snows! Yep my knees are shot, need to get an MRI to see how bad they are, it's that twisting that gets ya! Stop by tomorrow Fish-it, I should be around!!
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My wife gets her knee operation on jan 4th ,whenwe get back from maine. I am going ice fishing friday . 4" of ice on most lakes down here. Should be enough to hold me. ::)
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My wife gets her knee operation on jan 4th ,whenwe get back from maine. I am going ice fishing friday . 4" of ice on most lakes down here. Should be enough to hold me. ::)
All open water up here, but we'll be thinking about you Pa boys in late march when our jigging arms hurt on a foot and a half of ice! ;D Looking like a good winter for steelhead Wirestone, 750 shifted some nice steelies up here for the winter, got a pile of freezing rain, sleet, and slush today! Alot of water on the ground if it was to get warm! Can't loose, if it's warm and the river goes up more, go steelheading, if it gets cold then go waldo fishing on hard water! God I love this state!!
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Snagger how long do you think before onieda gets hard?
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Snagger how long do you think before onieda gets hard?
Be nice if it's ready by January first, if not you can go steelheading! Got to plan a good get together that weekend for both! Nice talking to you again! Tell Ryan I said Hi!!!!
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I hope we get some ice it is suppose to get cold at the end of the week!!!
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I hope we get some ice it is suppose to get cold at the end of the week!!!
Where the heck have you been, I got some secret weapons today down in Syracuse, now we need some Ice!!! Wait til you see them! When are we taking a ride down the river already? Wow a half inch of melted precip today at the Syracuse gauge today Northwoods.
Fishing Report: Friday was the best it's been in weeks with fish hitting a variety of things! Saturday was a good day, but not the fast action of Friday, a friend of mine did good on sacs just under a bead on floats, another guest did well bottom bouncing estez flies in pink. What little I heard about Sunday was it slowed even more. Weather looks good all week for fishing!! Give em hell boys!
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During that snowstorm Friday the steelhead fishing was about as good as it's been in many, many weeks! Anywhere else in the country snow or rain is associated with low or falling barometers(east winds), but in the Great Lakes they have a weather phenomena they can call there own. It's having whiteout brutal snowstorms during fast rising or stable barometers, which everyone knows is great for fish activity! There really is very few places in the world that this occurs, so don't be scared off by lake effect snowstorms, it's usually some of the best barometers to fish the River!
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Town Rapids!
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Hey SNAGGER, It's one thing to self-promote yourself, but to post that you have secret weapons on your thread is DISCONCERTING :w00t: FISH ON!!!!--KP ;D
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Hey SNAGGER, It's one thing to self-promote yourself, but to post that you have secret weapons on your thread is DISCONCERTING :w00t: FISH ON!!!!--KP ;D
Hey Kingperch just talked to deadeyes, got a place to leave my Sled on Oneida for the winter! Me and Deadeyes are going to be having some good times like last summer on the boat, I can't wait! Come on Ice!!
In my journey's today noticed quite a few anglers for a monday, probably 45-50 vehicles in Altmar with the warm weather, no reports though! Looks like the river's going to stay popular and busy this winter!
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Hey Kingperch just talked to deadeyes, got a place to leave my Sled on Oneida for the winter! Me and Deadeyes are going to be having some good times like last summer on the boat, I can't wait! Come on Ice!!
In my journey's today noticed quite a few anglers for a monday, probably 45-50 vehicles in Altmar with the warm weather, no reports though! Looks like the river's going to stay busy this winter!
CAN I GO????? ;D--KP
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CAN I GO????? ;D--KP
You know it!! 8)
Heres a pic of me, Northwoods and Randolph from 07 to get you pumped!
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You know it!! 8)
Heres a pic of me, Northwoods and Randolph from 07 to get you pumped!
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NICE CATCH BUDDY!!! I'M PUMPED!!! CAN'T WAIT!!!!--KP
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NICE CATCH BUDDY!!! I'M PUMPED!!! CAN'T WAIT!!!!--KP
Santa Claus better be bringing the little guy some ice fishin stuff! :D
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In my journey's today noticed quite a few anglers for a monday, probably 45-50 vehicles in Altmar with the warm weather, no reports though! Looks like the river's going to stay popular and busy this winter!
Are you kidding me???? That's insane for a Monday in the middle of December!
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Are you kidding me???? That's insane for a Monday in the middle of December!
No, about a dozen in Melinda's lot, 20 in Altmar North, and pushing 20 in LFZ lot. And that's not including the trucks and trailers! People were pretty spread out though, not overly crowded near the bridge! Oh forgot half dozen at the wires too! Actually more than there was when I left on Sunday to go to the Ice show in Syracuse! Maybe Sundays are the new Mondays, seems like it lately!
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You aint kidding this year has been quite busy ya think!!! With people that is!!!
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Oh forgot half dozen at the wires too! Maybe Sundays are the new Mondays, seems like it lately!
I would have to think so Snagger!! I know in Oswego Mondays where really busy,by Tuesday afternoon things cleared out nice. I was at both wire holes yesterday with some buddies of mine and the LB. All I can say is that the fish that are coming up from the lake are shooting up and going high. I did manage to hook four at the LB and landed one Shaker. The school house was full of fish but there where a few Ropers there and they where just foul hooking fish..I guess they got theres in the end. The CO's where there and they where watching. I did hook one at the head of the wire hole 5-6 pounder nice bright fish..He fell off not a biggie,it happends.. :P There was a truck load of hippies from Mass at the Wire hole.They where just slapping the pink of these fish!! Dread locks,Pot and Patchouli oil. College must be out? Warmachine and I are going to be there Wednesday at some point.
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Wow sounds like the old days!
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I had no idea my buddies were fishing at the Wire Hole today... Jeez... 8)
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Santa Claus better be bringing the little guy some ice fishin stuff! :D
OH, SANTA CLAUS TOOK GOOD CARE OF THE NIGHT NINJA ALRIGHT!!! ::) I'll have him call you after x-mas to tell you what he got!!! ;D--KP
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Snagger I told Ryan I spoke to you. He is pumped to get out on the hard water. We are thinking about chippin in on a gas auger for this year. Any recomendations on what brand. Also he said he might be able to go up for the new years weekend for some stealhead and ice. Ice first stealhead sunday I can catch stealies hung over but it sucks hung over ice fishing. ;D ;D
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Snagger I told Ryan I spoke to you. He is pumped to get out on the hard water. We are thinking about chippin in on a gas auger for this year. Any recomendations on what brand. Also he said he might be able to go up for the new years weekend for some steelhead and ice. Ice first steelhead sunday I can catch steelies hung over but it sucks hung over ice fishing. ;D ;D
Well got no guests, so no reports, but it wasn't as crowded when I took a drive to pay some bills today as monday!! ALOT more room today, River went back to 335cfs, but going back up tonight to 750cfs, must of had to work on something up there!
Hey dave, I don't know much about power augers, don't believe in them, was still hand drilling last year through 27 inches! Someday if my arms get real mooshy like yours I might buy one for perch fishing, not walleye unless I drill my holes the night before! I've heard really good things about the Iceagater though. Ice aint going to be that thick this year I bet!! If we got Ice, could be a bunch of us going, if not we'll half to settle for Steelies! Catch ya later man!!
See you on Iceshanty, not much talking over here anymore!!
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Wow sounds like the old days!
When you making an appearance again? Keep in touch!
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Well got no guests, so no reports, but it wasn't as crowded when I took a drive to pay some bills today as monday!! ALOT more room today, River went back to 335cfs, but going back up tonight to 750cfs, must of had to work on something up there!
Hey dave, I don't know much about power augers, don't believe in them, was still hand drilling last year through 27 inches! Someday if my arms get real mooshy like yours I might buy one for perch fishing, not walleye unless I drill my holes the night before! I've heard really good things about the Iceagater though. Ice aint going to be that thick this year I bet!! If we got Ice, could be a bunch of us going, if not we'll half to settle for Steelies! Catch ya later man!!
See you on Iceshanty, not much talking over here anymore!!
Some of fat guys would trouble with that. :rotflol:
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tell me about it!!!!!!
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Mushy arms real funny snagger. When I get back up there I am going to kick you in your old knees. Then we will see how mushy my arms are. And mark you are not fat just big boned lol. :laugh: :laugh:
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:flex: :whistling:
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Well got no guests, so no reports, but it wasn't as crowded when I took a drive to pay some bills today as monday!! ALOT more room today, River went back to 335cfs, but going back up tonight to 750cfs, must of had to work on something up there!
Hey dave, I don't know much about power augers, don't believe in them, was still hand drilling last year through 27 inches! Someday if my arms get real mooshy like yours I might buy one for perch fishing, not walleye unless I drill my holes the night before! I've heard really good things about the Iceagater though. Ice aint going to be that thick this year I bet!! If we got Ice, could be a bunch of us going, if not we'll half to settle for Steelies! Catch ya later man!!
See you on Iceshanty, not much talking over here anymore!!
If it was me I would not think twice and defenatly get the Icegator.....That thing is an animal. Check out what people on Ice shanty are saying about them. Just my $.02
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:flex: :whistling:
I cant believe that people would insinuate such a thing!
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Hey Snagger I am done huntin and need to make an appearance. I might try that ice cube fishin this year, think you could hook me up? :azn:
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I also just ordered a couple patch kits from wWater Master for my raft. I think next time I will leave it laying around my yard like you do, instead of armoralling and neatly putting it away so that the mice can eat it like last time. ??? :-\
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I also just ordered a couple patch kits from wWater Master for my raft. I think next time I will leave it laying around my yard like you do, instead of armoralling and neatly putting it away so that the mice can eat it like last time. ??? :-\
Go buy a bunch of moth balls if your going to pack it away, 11 years out in the elements for mine and it's still kicking. There tough rafts! Pretty cold/snowy out there now!
River's back to 750, should stay there a while with the previous snow melt and rain. Only 3 cars in the lot right now!!!
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time to do some chrome while waiting for ice ;D......snag how ya doing bro!!!!!
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time to do some chrome while waiting for ice ;D......snag how ya doing bro!!!!!
Just taking it easy! Needed a little break!!
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you get yer rest ole boy i figure next week were drilling holes somewhere!!!!
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you get yer rest ole boy i figure next week were drilling holes somewhere!!!!
Hey trap I'm over to snaggers,we'll have to hook up together on oneida.
hey jersey dave your missing out
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time to do some chrome while waiting for ice ;D......snag how ya doing bro!!!!!
Trapp,
Big bay is capped over and locked in..Next week?? :whistling:
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Yo, lambaste em, you better be ready to fish when i come up over New Years ill be up Wednesday till sunday.
If thers hard water will do that to!! ;D
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that fish is bigger than the kid ;D that is awesome, he is strong boy, I hope I see him on the ice, bringing my grill back out this year kids loved it last year
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She has to be slushing this morning! Going down to 7 degs tonight I'll be there in the morning tomorrow! My bobber will look like a corndog.. :laugh: I had buddies fishing yesterday from pineville down to the ball flats and they only locked into 5 all day..So I guess the cold fronts mess with steelheads too!
Simple...
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Hey Carppieguy....You2 ;D ;)
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Yep I think this thread has about run it's course,
hope everyone had fun and have a great holiday!
Only one car in the lot on my side of the River!
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only 2 boat trailers in pineville and town pool is full of slush still!!! Just drove by 10mins ago!!!TIME FOR THE HARD WATER!!! YE HAAA!!!!
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Yep I think this thread has about run it's course,
hope everyone had fun and have a great holiday!
Only one car in the lot on my side of the River!
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only 2 boat trailers in pineville and town pool is full of slush still!!! Just drove by 10mins ago!!!TIME FOR THE HARD WATER!!! YE HAAA!!!!
I am going out tomorrow to see if I can get some hardwater brookies. :tipup:
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Anyone heading out today, make sure you stay above Pineville, it's 9 below zero right now, going to be slush below Pineville, probably locked up with anchor ice down low!! Could be a good morning for taking pictures of steam and posible rhime frost on the low lying trees in Altmar too. Good luck!!
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CCCCCCCold! The big ice cube will be comming soon for you Snagger.
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Hooked six and landed NONE!! Warmachine landed two.. One 5lbs and the other 10-13lbs.. Altmar was good!
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Hey Simple....mind giving up a few of your secrets on bead colors? I just picked up a bunch of them, but have only tried a couple colors. Do you have a few you mainly use?
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Also...do you run a fly behind the bead? If so what kind of patterns?
If you couldnt tell I'm a newb to this bead thing, trying to get a hang of it.
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Hey Simple....mind giving up a few of your secrets on bead colors? I just picked up a bunch of them, but have only tried a couple colors. Do you have a few you mainly use?
Yup...
Glow roe 8-10mm
Glow roe molted 8-10 Glow roe molted with Red dot.
Glow beads with pink Dots 10mm
Glow beads with Orange dots 10mm
Blaze Orange beads 10mm
Bright Green 8mm with Orange Dot
Natural Roe 10mm
This should get you started.. Rule of thumb, High water and darker days start with 10mm, lower water bright days 8mm or less.
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The only difference the way I fish with the noddle rod and a pinning rod is I have to open my bail up. I catch just as many as the rest of them. Also my drifts are shorter.. Woo Hoo.. ;D
Not to stir the pot, but I have to laugh....It's highly unlikely that you can outfish a hardcore pinner with a spinning setup...not trying to be an a$$, maybe one day out of 10, but the other 9 days out of 10, a pin will outfish spinning gear....running a float on spinning gear is a good way to get into quite a few fish....but if spinning gear was superior....you would see pinners switching over to spinning reels instead of the other way around....just sayin' It's REALLY hard to compete with a pin if the guy knows how to use it.
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With the River all slushed up down below most came to Altmar, but it wasn't that bad about 20-30 cars total! It's 1 below right now so slush again below sportsman pool, might clear mid day down below with temps going into the 20's! Guys here did 3 for 15 and another did 7 for 12!! Floats and fly fishing, no bottom bouncers! Hey Carpy ever try a baitcaster, they work great, I try to munipulate my drift with my noodle rod/spinning reel, so no open bail for me!!( cast alot farther upstream if room, get to set the hook HARD when the float drops that way instead of just lifting your rod and there just there, like the long drifts) Give em hell boys!! 10am to 2pm big bite tomorrow!!!l
Sringer, sorry wasn't on tonght, sent you a PM!!
Getting kids into fishing over labor day weekend!!!
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Also...do you run a fly behind the bead? If so what kind of patterns?
If you couldnt tell I'm a newb to this bead thing, trying to get a hang of it.
I know guys who run tandom flies, to be legal cut the wire off the upper one, if the fish tries for the upper one he gets face hooked with bottom one, therefore no posibility of them swallowing the hook! Same idea with the bead, alot are outside the mouth or face hooked, therefore not being swallowed and posibly injurying the fish! How times have changed or have they?????
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Not to stir the pot, but I have to laugh....It's highly unlikely that you can outfish a hardcore pinner with a spinning setup...not trying to be an a$$, maybe one day out of 10, but the other 9 days out of 10, a pin will outfish spinning gear...
I wasn't saying that the noodle rod and spinning reel is better then a pin rod.. I am about as close to a centerpiner with my setup as I can. Shot lines,Floats,Main lines ETC. I do well! I fish with a few S/R pinners we all lock in to fish. Someday I'll get the rig but for now I am happy with my noodle rod...Wish I had the 600.00 bucks for a cheap Centerpin rig! trust me.
Case in point. We fished yesterday. My centerpin bud hooked two fish and landed both..I hooked 6 and landed 0. Do I think its because I don't have a centerpin setup..Umm no.. I think I have to see how the fish take the float down when they are colder. I fished Oswego all fall Icegeek and the water was much warmer,now that it getting colder the take on the float is different. I think that the fish where more aggressive in Oswego then the S/R (less people during the week) but the bite was and 3.5hr in the morning and 2.0hrs in the evening. This
This is my first year of (Float fishing) or pinning...I can only get better from here.. I have landed 49 browns and 30 steelies this fall and to be honest with you that's the best I have ever done in the early part of the run. I am not lifting them, Iam not sighting them, I am just fishing for them as if they where stream trout. I have to say it has been really fun. I can fish water that I didn't think would hold fish(pocket water) and see if there is anybody home. Also Icegeek, I have been fishing the Salmon River and the Oswego River now for over 25 years I would hope that have learned a thing or two... :D When it doubt ask a local like Snagger,skeeter(if you ever get the chance to talk to him) Great guy to pick for info and very nice.
Have to meet up there and do some fishing Icegeek... Always like to meet new fishermen.
Simple.... :laugh:
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I know guys who run tandom flies, to be legal cut the wire off the upper one, if the fish tries for the upper one he gets face hooked with bottom one, therefore no posibility of them swallowing the hook! Same idea with the bead, alot are outside the mouth or face hooked, therefore not being swallowed and posibly injurying the fish! How times have changed or have they?????
Yeah things have changed Snagg.. I run my hook about 2 inches behind my beads. No deep throats hooks but....I miss a lot of fish to... As for a fly to run behind a bead..Hummm??? A glo bug I would think..
Carppie...
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Yeah things have changed Snagg.. I run my hook about 2 inches behind my beads. No deep throats hooks but....I miss a lot of fish to... As for a fly to run behind a bead..Hummm??? A glo bug I would think..
Carppie...
I was just busting ya Carpie, I just find it funny these days that if your not running a float and your botton bouncing people assume your a snagger, when most fish are in the tonge or side of the mouth . A bottom bouncer would take alot of heat for a face hooked fish, but pinners or glorified panfishermen in my eyes get away with anything cause there the shazizl right now! You don't half to spend 600, I could set you up for about 225!!!! Still alot of jing to some people!! I'll say one thing about floats, it's made my job alot easier, used to have to fish the river years, now just give em a float, a couple color beads, a few sac's and I go ice fishing. In the old days used to half to personally take people to spots, show them correct drifts and setups and explain vast amounts of knowledge! Not anymore!! Daves son who's 6 uses a clip on bobber and pink worm and hangs with the boys its so easy!!! Hope everyone has a great day out there, it's cold, 2 degrees right now!!!!
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Snagger,
I bumped into Bowhunter302 today..He is staying at your Pad.. We're going to meet up on Monday Morning I hope I am going to get him on some fish before He leaves.. A free guide for the morning..Priceless!! I only hooked ONE Fish today funny how one day can change everything!
You are right about the float fishing!! I don't mind showing people spots to fish.. ;)
It's so easy now, A caveman can do it. :rotflol: :clapping: :bowdown:
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Snagger,
I bumped into Bowhunter302 today..He is staying at your Pad.. We're going to meet up on Monday Morning I hope I am going to get him on some fish before He leaves.. A free guide for the morning..Priceless!! I only hooked ONE Fish today funny how one day can change everything!
You are right about the float fishing!! I don't mind showing people spots to fish.. ;)
It's so easy now, A caveman can do it. :rotflol: :clapping: :bowdown:
Hook up numbers are way down today Carpi, think that east coast storm is getting too close! It's cloudy out too!! Talked to a freind on a boat said it was decent til 10, then just picking at them! That's steelhead!!
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Not to stir the pot, but I have to laugh....It's highly unlikely that you can outfish a hardcore pinner with a spinning setup...not trying to be an a$$, maybe one day out of 10, but the other 9 days out of 10, a pin will outfish spinning gear....running a float on spinning gear is a good way to get into quite a few fish....but if spinning gear was superior....you would see pinners switching over to spinning reels instead of the other way around....just sayin' It's REALLY hard to compete with a pin if the guy knows how to use it.
i have to be 100% honest here i personally fish with frank ,he's one of the best with a float and i have witnessed him beating guys with pins ..... now the one thing i can us a level wind just as good as a center pin! set a penn reel used for salt water fishing on live line and set the drag!!!! get a hit and then your back to a regular spinning reel!actually it's a better set up! .....just saying....frank great work bro keep up the post and pic's
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Thanks Tapp!!! :clapping:
I'am still getting the hang of it but, I love Crappie fishing.. :D
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Snagger,
I bumped into Bowhunter302 today..He is staying at your Pad.. We're going to meet up on Monday Morning I hope I am going to get him on some fish before He leaves.. A free guide for the morning..Priceless!! I only hooked ONE Fish today funny how one day can change everything!
You are right about the float fishing!! I don't mind showing people spots to fish.. ;)
It's so easy now, A caveman can do it. :rotflol: :clapping: :bowdown:
He got into them this afternoon Carpie!!
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i have to be 100% honest here i personally fish with frank ,he's one of the best with a float and i have witnessed him beating guys with pins ..... now the one thing i can us a level wind just as good as a center pin! set a penn reel used for salt water fishing on live line and set the drag!!!! get a hit and then your back to a regular spinning reel!actually it's a better set up! .....just saying....frank great work bro keep up the post and pic's
hey trapp, just saying a baitcast reel is a good way to go a good friend of mine has a 13' st.croix custom with the eye's turned and wrapped right around it is awsome because you have a drag set up that is nice and smooth and that 13' rod beats them quickly plus you get the same technique as pin all you do is leave it in freespool mode and control it with your thumb you turn the handle bang and the drag is on!!!!
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hey trapp, just saying a baitcast reel is a good way to go a good friend of mine has a 13' st.croix custom with the eye's turned and wrapped right around it is awsome because you have a drag set up that is nice and smooth and that 13' rod beats them quickly plus you get the same technique as pin all you do is leave it in freespool mode and control it with your thumb you turn the handle bang and the drag is on!!!!
Hey Markie went up to the Turn with my knee boots on and landed a red coho, lost a nice steelie, not bad for 30 minutes, heard some decent reports from the LFZ and another spot this afternoon! Swing by tomorrow!!
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that is all that turn is loaded!!!! just messin w/ya that is pretty good for 30mins
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A decent day for the guys staying here with one guy hooking up 8 times by 2pm. Crowds were not bad again, safe ice is helping thin out some of the semi locals I think, should pick back up during the Holiday weekends though. good luck out there, could be early morning slush down low Monday!!
Outside temp was 10, has risen to 16 at 1am now.
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that is all that turn is loaded!!!! just messin w/ya that is pretty good for 30mins
Just before dark, they already had been worked over by all you "Pro's" earlier!!! :w00t:
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Hay Northwoods, I will be up for 5 days starting Wednesday morning the 30th. What are the chances of you taking me and Snagger for a ride down the river one day that week? ;D ;D
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When we getting some pic's from snowcountry( Philadelphia) ?? :clapping: :w00t:
Philly has 24 inches for the season, Syracuse has 7 inches!!!!! :-*
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When we getting some pic's from snowcountry( Philadelphia) ?? :clapping: :w00t:
Philly has 24 inches for the season, Syracuse has 7 inches!!!!! :-*
Their is nothing to see down hear Snagger we only got 5.6 inches when every one else got 10 to 25.
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Their is nothing to see down hear Snagger we only got 5.6 inches when every one else got 10 to 25.
You should move up with Dave in Sandy Creek, think they have bare ground right now!! :w00t:
Only 11 cars in the Altmar North parking lot right now, not too bad, fishing still steady up here!
Heres a pic of the first guy on Oneida lake this year!!!
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How much snow did you get in Conn. Bunker?
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not sure where Bunker killer is from, but we got 18" in oakdale, where i live. guess it's winter now!-Paul
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Snagger, check uot the brown this kid pulled out Friday.
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4" of ice down here. They only stock bookies in that lake.
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not sure where Bunker killer is from, but we got 18" in oakdale, where i live. guess it's winter now!-Paul
Unbelievable, we've only got about 4-6 inches on the ground here!!!!
Nice Brown through the ice Kevin!!!
Heres a guy named pondskipper who nailed a nice steelie through the ice at Sandy!!!!
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Not sure what part of CONN Bunker is from. But we live in Amston, CONN and we got 13". Southeast shore got hit hard 19"-28". Bob
You should move up with Dave in Sandy Creek, think they have bare ground right now!! :w00t:
Only 11 cars in the Altmar North parking lot right now, not too bad, fishing still steady up here!
Heres a pic of the first guy on Oneida lake this year!!!
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How much snow did you get in Conn. Bunker?
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hey trapp, just saying a baitcast reel is a good way to go a good friend of mine has a 13' st.croix custom with the eye's turned and wrapped right around it is awsome because you have a drag set up that is nice and smooth and that 13' rod beats them quickly plus you get the same technique as pin all you do is leave it in freespool mode and control it with your thumb you turn the handle bang and the drag is on!!!!
cool north but if you have a ocean penn reel you don't even need to do that if it has a live line option , set it on live line set drag then when you get a hit just set the hook it automaticly goes right to regular mode ....it's the nuts , and a better set up!
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Unbelievable, we've only got about 4-6 inches on the ground here!!!!
Nice Brown through the ice Kevin!!!
Heres a guy named pondskipper who nailed a nice steelie through the ice at Sandy!!!!
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I have always wanted to catch steelies thru the ice. :thumbup_smilie:
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Rivers back down to 335 for a while. Had a couple of friends do some pretty good numbers at this end of the River today, 8 degrees out right now at 10 pm, going to be a little slush down low early. Good luck Tuesday!!! 3 degrees at 2am..... -02 at 3am
Hey HookemBob theres about a foot and a half up by your property..!!
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You should move up with Dave in Sandy Creek, think they have bare ground right now!! :w00t:
Only 11 cars in the Altmar North parking lot right now, not too bad, fishing still steady up here!
Heres a pic of the first guy on Oneida lake this year!!!
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How much snow did you get in Conn. Bunker?
Good Shot Snagger Was this guy gettin resqued or just winded?
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Good Shot Snagger Was this guy gettin resqued or just winded?
I think they thought he was stranded..!! If your fishing the River today, you are a true diehard, temps still in the teens and the northwest winds are whipping pretty good, only a couple vehicles in the lot right now..!
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not sure where Bunker killer is from, but we got 18" in oakdale, where i live. guess it's winter now!-Paul
I'm on the other end of the state Paul, we only got 9in of snow here
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Merry Christmas Shane. tell your mom i said hi.
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Merry Christmas Snagger to you and all the altmar outlaws
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Cold and snowy today, got about 8 inches of fluff so far. Saw alot of trucks and trailers already driving by my house. Must have been a cold one with the northwest winds and temps in the teens, only a few cars up by the bridge, River looks strange back down to 335, peaceful actually...
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Hope everybody has a spectacular Christmas with friends and familly!!
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MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL ON MFF!!!--KP :)
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Cold and snowy today, got about 8 inches of fluff so far. Saw alot of trucks and trailers already driving by my house. Must have been a cold one with the northwest winds and temps in the teens, only a few cars up by the bridge, River looks strange back down to 335, peaceful actually...
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Hope everybody has a spectacular Christmas with friends and familly!!
lol!! how many grills you cooking on shane! you could cook a feast of perch & eyes right there
happy holidays all
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lol!! how many grills you cooking on shane! you could cook a feast of perch & eyes right there
happy holidays all
We had our share of times when they were all going, plus couple bondo's..!!! It's the "Animal house" here during Salmon... Have a great holiday man!!!
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Merry Christmas Shane!
See you soon on the ice with lots of goodies!
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Merry Christmas guys!! Snagger,Trapper,KP,Bowhunter302.. :clapping: Larry I am still looking for work..
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Merry Christmas guys!! Snagger,Trapper,KP,Bowhunter302.. :clapping: Larry I am still looking for work..
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Hay Snagger Have a grate Christmas and tell uncle John and your mom I said Hi. See you next week. :o :o
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Merry Christmas everyone
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Merry Christmas
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Hey Snagger, Look close at Santa. That is Chris at BK :w00t:
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Merry Xmas all. Hows the fishing up to the river, planning on making it up either sat or sunday. Whats the water at snagger?
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Merry Xmas all. Hows the fishing up to the river, planning on making it up either sat or sunday. Whats the water at snagger?
What's up Ryan just got back from Ithaca, Only 3 drift trailers at Altmar/pineville combined, 12 cars at Altmar north(only 2 out of state), a dozen cars behind the wires, must be mobbed in the schoolhouse. All the creeks are frozen with no rise in water, roads still haven't completly thawed from last nights ice. Temp right now is 35 degrees with strong east winds, rivers 335 and with all the freezing rain put into the snow, couldn't posibly be going up anytime soon.
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What's up Ryan just got back from Ithaca, Only 3 drift trailers at Altmar/pineville combined, 12 cars at Altmar north(only 2 out of state), a dozen cars behind the wires, must be mobbed in the schoolhouse. All the creeks are frozen with no rise in water, roads still haven't completly thawed from last nights ice. Temp right now is 35 degrees with strong east winds, rivers 335 and with all the freezing put into the snow, couldn't posibly be going up anytime soon.
happy holidays king snagger, hope your getting out on the new ice up there. that wasnt you getting rescued by the chopper was it???? always tryin to push the envelope arent you! what ever happened to the christmas steelie derby you were trying to plan? i havent heard any more on it but i havent been on mff in a couple weeks.
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Hey man what's up, hope you had a good christmas... no ice yet for me, tryed to get some guys together but everybody had other plans. No biggie, I'll let you know if we plan another one.. You know when we have are regular one every year. Later man!
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Hey man what's up, hope you had a good christmas... no ice yet for me, tryed to get some guys together but everybody had other plans. No biggie, I'll let you know if we plan another one.. You know when we have are regular one every year. Later man!
was thinkin of coming up in the next few weeks after that im locked down at home waitin for my daughter to be born in mid february. gimme a call if it gets good. be safe on that ice.
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Hay Snagger your PM box is full time to delete the old ones!!!!! Cant send any to you ??? :P >:(
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Whats up SNAGGER??
Hope the holidays were good to ya!
We have been fishing the river down here and the biggest eye so far is 22''... Hoping this warm spell doesnt wash it all out!!
Hows things lookin up there for ice? on SP? or Onieda?
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Felt and looked like spring today. took a drive to Pulaski, lots of green grass popping open again with dirty snow piles everywhere like late March. ALOT more people showed up today with the Sunny warm temps and light winds. The high was 39 degrees after a Foggy low of 32. At least 100 vehicles from Ellis to the Bridge today with over 20 drift trailers in the lots. Weathers about to change back to normal tomorrow with Lake snows,cold and wind for a few days. Orwell was up a little, but not much, still a tight snowpack in the woods.
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Whats up SNAGGER??
Hope the holidays were good to ya!
We have been fishing the river down here and the biggest eye so far is 22''... Hoping this warm spell doesnt wash it all out!!
Hows things lookin up there for ice? on SP? or Onieda?
Haven't ice fished the Pond since the Canadians killed all the Walleye a few years back and Oneida aint ready yet, just doing some work in my basement and takin it easy bro, have a good one man!! Give me a shout LV...
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Well another Spring is upon us and the Steelhead Fishing is going to get Hot and heavy soon! Some of you may have fished all winter and some of you are just making it up now for the first time this year. Either way it's been another great season so far. Share some of your most recent trips with the rest of us! THANKS! I'll try to give you updated water and fishing reports as often as I can! New to a computer, but not to fishing for Salmon and Steelies ( 29 years on the tribes)! NOW that it is September, it's time for some Monster rod breaking KINGS, Reel stripping COHO'S, beautiful BROWNS, and of Course lightning fast Jumping STEELIES again! HOPE EVERYONE HAS A SPECTACULAR SEASON!
hey Snagger, remember this old post?? 2,579 posts ago change the 09 to 10
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I will see you Wednesday morning Snagger, if you need anything call me.
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I will see you Wednesday morning Snagger, if you need anything call me.
Hey Lv got woke up this morning at 8am by a lound clapp of thunder, thought it was summer til I looked out the window, big whiteout with graupel and high winds. It was pretty cool, lasted about an hour, then a lake effect whiteout from 11-1 til it moved north and fell apart, ended up with 7-8 inches of wet snow. Average amount of people/boats around today!!
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Hey Lv got woke up this morning at 8am by a lound clapp of thunder, thought it was summer til I looked out the window, big whiteout with graupel and high winds. It was pretty cool, lasted about an hour, then a lake effect whiteout from 11-1 til it moved north and fell apart, ended up with 7-8 inches of wet snow. Average amount of people/boats around today!!
Hey Snagger i think were getting almost as much snow as you are this year
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We had the thunder and lightning at about 10:30 today on Oswego during a white out snow squall...It was great standing in the river with a 12' graphite lightning rod...I can think of worse ways to go...
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Wish I could have bean there Snagger, I hope we get dumped on this weekend!!!!!! ;D
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We had the thunder and lightning at about 10:30 today on Oswego during a white out snow squall...It was great standing in the river with a 12' graphite lightning rod...I can think of worse ways to go...
Fish.it
That reminds me of a story. One time back around 96 me and a pile of guys all went up to the Oswego damm. We were fishing from the middle rock to the corner during the tail end of a late Salmon run in early November. There was so many of us,that we controlled that whole area. We were having a banner morning on Fresh kings and lakers, when a powerful band of Lake effect set up right on top of us, it was snowing and graupelling in sheets, then the thunder started. First it was just rumbles, when all of a sudden just like summertime lightning bolts were hitting the ground very close by. The whole River emptied out but us guys, had the whole place to our selves, after a while we decided to go up to our vehicles parked on old man Lettos roadway by the damm for more beer. Me and my buddy were leaning up against his van, when a bolt came to the ground really close by and Shocked the hell out us, I mean it hurt your stomach... to this day my other buddy, the mayor, said it hit the dam, I was looking in another direction. What a day, I'll never forget it!!!
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i was there that day i was still in the river when that happened got shocked then got out that was the first time i ever walked on water how much longer for ice
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Haven't ice fished the Pond since the Canadians killed all the Walleye a few years back and Oneida aint ready yet, just doing some work in my basement and takin it easy bro, have a good one man!! Give me a shout LV...
HEY SNAGGER!!!! There are still quite a few waldos in the pond and yes, you can catch them through the ice!!! Just gotta know where to catch 'em!!! :whistling:--KP ;D
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HEY SNAGGER!!!! There are still quite a few waldos in the pond and yes, you can catch them through the ice!!! Just gotta know where to catch 'em!!! :whistling:--KP ;D
Ya you get an occasional one or even a limit once in a while, but those dink perch drive me crazy, plus those northerns that slice your lures off, just not my thing is all. On Oneida the challenge is staying consistent on those days when there lock jawed, waiting for those great flurries. Last year around 1pm in the doldrums of mid February(traditional the hardest time to target eyes) a bunch of marks showed up my screen, bang I nailed the first waldo, the other marks followed so I knew they meant business. I stopped reeling and left the walleye swimming down there so I could get my buddy over where I was. He came over and reeled in my other rod with a slip float on it. When he got his pimple down there then I started reeling in my eye up, bamb he nails one. We played this game of keeping them there for 15 minutes. I put 6 on the ice and he put 3 on the ice, plus we dumped I don't know how many!!! Then the school left!!! 9 for like 20 hits in 15 minutes.. By no means my best day out there, just something about the craziness you can get into down there. I don't think the pond has that potential, at least not in my experience.. Good place to get kids started or people who like steady action, cause you can go hours, sometimes days with only a few perch let alone eyes if your a walker at Oneida, THAT'S THE CHALLENGE and enjoy trying to figure out why others are getting them and I'm not sometimes!
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Brutal out there today!!! windy,cold and snowy. Temps in the single numbers most of the day, not too many people around, but still more than normal considering the conditions!! Heard the float bite for non driftboat anglers has really come to a halt, but bottom drifters have been doing really decent in the upper part of the River!! Mostly flies with light shot and 3-4lb leader with a mainline of quality 4lb. Can get away with 6lb during mid day because of high light refraction, but back to 4 in the evening!!! If your not experienced with very light lines, you can always use fluorocarbon which runs about 2lbs heavier for the same strength, but is clear and has good light refraction. Good luck out there, it's not as easy as letting a bobber float around!!!
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Just watched a news report on a fire at the Fish-on motel in pulaski this morning that has been raging for a few hrs. The owner is still not found. Hope everyones friends and family are safe.
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Just watched a news report on a fire at the Fish-on motel in pulaski this morning that has been raging for a few hrs. The owner is still not found. Hope everyones friends and family are safe.
I hope everything is OK too, Mike a very good personal friend of mine.. I helped him build the original lodge portion of his place and cut fish for him years ago, I REALLY hope everything is OK....
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Snagger,
Dude somebody die in the blaze!!! NOT GOOD..
News link..
http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/story/One-killed-four-homeless-following-deadly-fire/P3u4Ph02TEeT0DzXOEN-Pw.cspx (http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/story/One-killed-four-homeless-following-deadly-fire/P3u4Ph02TEeT0DzXOEN-Pw.cspx)
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Hey Snagger I haven't been fishin' much lately with the new baby and all that comes with that! However I have completed my first home built foldable Ice Shanty it's sweet 4x8 footprint with 5 holes and 7' headroom! folds down to 4x8 and only about 10" thick it's going to slide in on it's side next to my snowmobile. It's heavy but it's real comfy. I'll be heading up to the pond both friday and sunday can you give me some idea of the ice thickness and if there's a snow pack out there? I'll probly be out by 8am you'll see me looks like a brown barn! I'd call ya but the baby (Madilyn aka Mad Maddy) is scramin' right now! Say hey to dave for me!
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Hey Snagger I haven't been fishin' much lately with the new baby and all that comes with that! However I have completed my first home built foldable Ice Shanty it's sweet 4x8 footprint with 5 holes and 7' headroom! folds down to 4x8 and only about 10" thick it's going to slide in on it's side next to my snowmobile. It's heavy but it's real comfy. I'll be heading up to the pond both friday and sunday can you give me some idea of the ice thickness and if there's a snow pack out there? I'll probly be out by 8am you'll see me looks like a brown barn! I'd call ya but the baby (Madilyn aka Mad Maddy) is scramin' right now! Say hey to dave for me!
Theres about 8-9 inches of ice on the Pond, and most of the snow got blown off, I might be going to Oneida Friday, give me a shout!!!!!
Man what a tragedy the "Fish On" was today, I drove down there earlier, I couldn't believe what I was seeing, had ALOT of great times in that place back in the day! I really can't believe it, such a shame!!!! :'(
I took some pic's but will not post them , no need to re live it over and over.
All my prayers go out to the family of the man that passed away in this fire.
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thanks for the info I signed up over at ice shanty waiting for my login you know how that can be.
Yeah I heard that new this mornin a couple guys I work with live in orwell and come thru by dunkin d's and mentioned it looked like a big blaze, sucks.
I'll give you a ring when I get a chance
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Quite a few guys around today, but heard the fishing is kind of sloww...
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Have a Happy and safe New Years everybody!!
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Hey Snagger was that Mike that died in the Fish on fire?
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Hey Snagger was that Mike that died in the Fish on fire?
no
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Hows the snow pieling up Snagger?.. Lets see some pictures....
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Hows the snow pieling up Snagger?.. Lets see some pictures....
It's not that big a deal here, just won't stop. non stop light snow for 4 days now, maybe 24 inches of very fluffy snow, no water in it for spring.. that could change this weekend, could get some REAL lake effect! Heres something that is ironic, Booneville on the Tug has gotten only 5 inches in 4 days while Wolcott has gotten 52 inches on the lakeshore west of here..
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hey Snagger, HAPPY NEW YEAR
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hey Snagger, HAPPY NEW YEAR
I thought you guys wanted a new thread?? How have you been Bunker, good I hope. Fishing has been good (by winter standards of course) for the guys here lately!! Oneida finally froze, got 1 day on it, now theres 2 1/2 feet of snow insulating 4 inches of ice, pretty scary. This sucks!!!
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I thought you guys wanted a new thread?? How have you been Bunker, good I hope. Fishing has been good (by winter standards of course) for the guys here lately!! Oneida finally froze, got 1 day on it, now theres 2 1/2 feet of snow insulating 4 inches of ice, pretty scary. This sucks!!!
that sounds a bit scary to me to. I'm glad I'm not addicted to the ice!!
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Hay Bunker you should have come up for the weekend we had a good time. Fishing was pretty good if you know where to go ;) I even had some luck in a new spot I have bean wanting to try. I probably wont be back up for a few weeks, I usually take a brake in January. I have made 22 trips to Snaggers last year. So maby well see you in February?
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Bunker is that one of those TV special "SNUGGIES" in the last shot?
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Here's what it looked like yesterday, add another 6 or 7 inches to it last night and today, right now is the first time it hasn't snowed since Friday night. There aint much water in it, very light weight, even for lake effect!!
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Nice little tiger cat Bunker..
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Bunker is that one of those TV special "SNUGGIES" in the last shot?
no, but we got one for Christmas from a friend and there great!!!!
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Here's what it looked like yesterday, add another 6 or 7 inches to it last night and today, right now is the first time it hasn't snowed since Friday night. There ain't much water in it, very light weight, even for lake effect!!
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Nice little tiger cat Bunker..
all our snow this years been pretty heavy and wet, last week the rivers here were almost at flood stage.ya he's a cool cat but he thinks he's a dog. the other cat is camera shy.
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Hay Bunker you should have come up for the weekend we had a good time. Fishing was pretty good if you know where to go ;) I even had some luck in a new spot I have bean wanting to try. I probably wont be back up for a few weeks, I usually take a brake in January. I have made 22 trips to Naggers last year. So ma by well see you in February?
I'm glad to here you did good Rob. I'm hoping to get up there soon but with the economy the way it is and still having one of the boys in college, Ive really had to watch the funds!!!I,m working, but its not like it used to be.
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Hey MAYOR congratulations on the arrival of your new Granddaughter, I hope all is well
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Well I was at the trestle Pool today with Snagger (I was the one hooking the most fish) I was using a rubber legged pheasant tail purple catis feel ya fly, that was the ticket! I hooked over 50 fish but for some reason they were coming in backwards :o I was curious if it was because I was not in the fly fishing section or if I was not in the DSR where the fish actually bite :w00t: Can anyone on here or from SC help solve my problem? Maybe if I pay to fish an area where my tax dollars stock the river they will bite? :wacko:
well said