Oh forgot to say, if you have a spot where you get hung up alot, because a steep drop off, that's where a slip knot bobber rig comes in handy. Cast past it, let it drift til it's close to drop, then reel in and re cast. Over and over and over, your bait goes to the fish, not the fish comes to your bait! Except on days where wind is in your face bad! What did you mean by copper sulfating breeding brooks on that other page! That killed your smelt?