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Title: Walleye opener
Post by: hinkydo on Apr 28, 2022, 08:53 AM
Walleye opener, hope everyone who gets out on Sunday May 1 limits out.

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Post by: Fabow on Apr 28, 2022, 11:24 AM
I always thought the walleye opener was the first Sat. in May?
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Post by: krispcritter on Apr 28, 2022, 11:40 AM
Used to be. Like everything else in NY, they changed it.
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Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 28, 2022, 12:50 PM
hey i  got a  great idea  lets  cut the  limit of bluegills in  half   raise the length of  crappies to 9 inches... totally  confuss  everyone  on trout limits   then  raise the  limit of walleyes  and open the  season early  so  we   knock the walleye population  down then  we  can  fix that .....state  employees  know   job security ... our state  sucks
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Post by: mdm25549 on Apr 28, 2022, 06:09 PM
Crappies went to 10”
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Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 28, 2022, 06:21 PM
they sure did...no one knows why
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Post by: filetandrelease on Apr 28, 2022, 06:41 PM

 Good luck to all I’m going perch fishing ,
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Post by: Mac Attack on Apr 28, 2022, 07:02 PM
they sure did...no one knows why


Because!

😉
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Post by: gotagetm on Apr 28, 2022, 07:16 PM
Getm Fred!!!
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Post by: filetandrelease on Apr 28, 2022, 08:15 PM

 Thanks Ben ,
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Post by: regulator on Apr 29, 2022, 03:24 AM
Good luck to all on the opener, I probably won't make it out until the afternoon but not going to miss it. A little trivia...On average over the past 20 years, the new walleye opener on May 1 is 3.25 days earlier than the traditional 1st Saturday in May opener. Twice in the last 20 years, May 1 fell on the first Saturday.
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Post by: fishinjohn on Apr 29, 2022, 04:59 AM
Good luck to all on the opener, I probably won't make it out until the afternoon but not going to miss it. A little trivia...On average over the past 20 years, the new walleye opener on May 1 is 3.25 days earlier than the traditional 1st Saturday in May opener. Twice in the last 20 years, May 1 fell on the first Saturday.
Very interesting stats!!!!
Sooooo whyyyyy are people soooo much in an uproar over a few days earlier?!?! ::)
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Post by: mdm25549 on Apr 29, 2022, 05:50 AM
Trapper I think the DEC said something like “trust the science”  lol
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Post by: FrankM on Apr 29, 2022, 06:13 AM
Years ago when I first started fishing for walleyes in NY the season was May 1 to March 1. Then somebody got the bright idea to change it to the first Saturday in May. Now its back to May 1 like it had been for many years. I fish Lake Erie and they usually don't start biting good till mid to late May so either way doesn't really affect my walleye fishing anyway. I'll give the new panfish regulations a year or two to see how they "pan" out. If they don't produce the desired results in the next couple years I'll send the DEC a nastygram.
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Post by: hunts2long on Apr 29, 2022, 06:15 AM
I think I have only fished opening day 2 or 3 times in the past 15 or 20 years. Won't be out this year. That may change went the 1st falls on a M-F....h2l
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Post by: lowaccord66 on Apr 29, 2022, 06:24 AM
Getm Fred!!!

X2 Fred, make em hurt!
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Post by: iceman260 on Apr 29, 2022, 06:42 AM
Good luck to all who go on the opener, I don't fish weekends so won't go until Thursday or friday.
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Post by: Old Timer on Apr 29, 2022, 07:12 AM
Just wondering how long Oneida Lake can continue to hold good numbers of Eyes with the new 5 per day limit and perch with the 50 a day limit.  Then there is the explosion of Sheepshead that everyone releases and the sturgeon sucking up the Walleye eggs, the advances in electronics and the increasing numbers of fishermen… I read about “the science” yet the DEC uses a survey (in most cases) of fishermen to determine limits and seasons .
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Post by: gotagetm on Apr 29, 2022, 07:42 AM
I keep all sheep head I catch, my labs eat raw meat and fish I filet them and dogs love them!!
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Post by: lowaccord66 on Apr 29, 2022, 10:23 AM
Just wondering how long Oneida Lake can continue to hold good numbers of Eyes with the new 5 per day limit and perch with the 50 a day limit.  Then there is the explosion of Sheepshead that everyone releases and the sturgeon sucking up the Walleye eggs, the advances in electronics and the increasing numbers of fishermen… I read about “the science” yet the DEC uses a survey (in most cases) of fishermen to determine limits and seasons .

An average fisherman with advanced electronics will likely always remain an average fisherman. 
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Post by: hunts2long on Apr 29, 2022, 11:17 AM
You don't have to keep 5  ;D....h2l
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Post by: lowaccord66 on Apr 29, 2022, 01:41 PM
You don't have to keep 5  ;D....h2l

People always chicken little bag limit increases...ironic in this case because you'd need 50 years experience to bag a limit from Sac consistently.
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Post by: Fishin-Mission on Apr 29, 2022, 03:22 PM
Years ago the limit on Oneida was 10 walleye, later reduces to 5 and then 3. Also there were some size changes, I remember 13 inches, then there was the 18 inch size limit and then back to 15. It all depends on the population and predominate size of the fish.  My only b***h is about changing the walleye opener from the first Saturday in May to May 1st. I would always have some of my friends from up north come down for the weekend to fish walleye.  We celebrated it for over 30 years. I even sent out invitations since the 1990 when I got a computer.  It can't be Walleye Weekend if it opens occurs any day of the week. They ruined my annual event. I guess we could wait for the first weekend after the opener but it just would not be the same.  The spot we usually fish will be all fished out.
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Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 29, 2022, 04:11 PM
the  first  sat in may  made it  so the  average  working  guy would  get  opening day  off  this  year it  is  on a  sat.    next  year  a  monday  ......do i think the 5  walleye  limit will lower the  walleyes  yeah......but be honest it wasn't to  hard to  fill your freezer anyways......if the  numbers go below  what they want then what ....stock more fish and go back to 3 .....truth is Oneida  is  a very well managed  walleye fishery
Title: Re: Walleye opener
Post by: oneida1 on Apr 29, 2022, 04:12 PM
Well old timer from my understanding they want to knock the populations down a bit on the eyes thats why they went to 5 i would guess if that is acomplished maybe back to 3, as far as perch i dont think the 50 limit hurts anything  and if walleyes are reduced a touch more perch...As far as fishing pressure yeah theres alot at times other not so much May -June  is usually busy as is first ice , Im not sure who i feel about the new 5 fish would still like to see a slot limit. Think the lake is in good shape always will be highs and lows...
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Post by: hunts2long on Apr 30, 2022, 06:20 AM
People always chicken little bag limit increases...ironic in this case because you'd need 50 years experience to bag a limit from Sac consistently.

You make me feel young...lol. As a non-fish eater I keep very few. My daughter likes a fish or two when she goes out with me and I have an older couple (older that me) that I take a few to....h2l
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Post by: Old Timer on Apr 30, 2022, 04:05 PM
I’ve seen it all. From 25 per person/12 size limit. To 3 per person 18 inches.  Opening from May first to the first Saturday.  Good spawning years to terrible and sometimes a couple in a row. 
Just my opinion.. Don’t get your panties all bunched up……..   The hatchery does nothing for Oneida Lake.  Yes they dump a few million fry back into the lake for the perch to gobble up but how many do they ship out ? If they knocked the dam out at Scriba Creek and let the eyes run up it and spawn , in my opinion, there would be a lot more eyes in the lake..  I’m sure there are a lot of eyes they net and strip that would have spawned on the rocky areas in the bay. 
Oneida Lake is not “put and take”  more like take and take. 
So they say there are too many eyes in the lake . Skinny fish ? There are always some skinny fish, like people.  The thin ones used to be called pin pike.   
So now they nearly double the limit. Being an old grouchy conservative I was in favor of holding the limit at 3 but would have been ok with 4 ( a number never considered) but open the gate Jenny, fill the live wells.   
I’m probably too old to see the full impact of this jump to 5 fish PP.   I hope it does not kill it for y’all.     
Rant over.   Enjoy opening day.. 
Title: Re: Walleye opener
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 30, 2022, 05:18 PM
i rather  eat perch  anyways
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Post by: filetandrelease on Apr 30, 2022, 05:33 PM
i rather  eat perch  anyways
I keep some eyes but for my table fare I’d take gills and perch first , but that just me , I do really enjoy that shore fall eye season , keep that water level up this fall 😃
Title: Re: Walleye opener
Post by: trapper2000 on Apr 30, 2022, 06:37 PM
i like  the  fall  bite  you know  that  and  my brother loves  the  fish  ......blue  gills  and  perch   on my  table  with a  few  trout mixed  in  .......  oneida  i  will say this  it's  a  lot easier to   get  a limit of  eyes  then it  ever  has  been....i  don't  even  fish for them threw the ice  and  catch them.....

hope everyone  has a great time and stays  safe
Title: Re: Walleye opener
Post by: reeleyz on Apr 30, 2022, 08:38 PM
“Skinny eyes” is not a hoax. This winter it was clear that the eyes were getting thinner.

According to Cornell the young of the year fall perch recruitment has been bad because the eyes are hammering on the perch fry. This goes along with lower shad numbers.

Seems like the majority of people struggle to catch 3 keepers anyway so I can’t see people hammering out 5 fish consistently. Well other than Fred!  ;D

Title: Re: Walleye opener
Post by: Old Timer on Apr 30, 2022, 09:13 PM
Not enough perch fry so they increase the eye limit. If its that bad they should have also dropped the perch limit. 
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Post by: Badbrad2186 on Apr 30, 2022, 09:22 PM
Not enough perch fry so they increase the eye limit. If its that bad they should have also dropped the perch limit.

Oh that's coming I hear talk of if dropping state wide to 25 and Jefferson county will also be the same. Just what I heard at the bait shop. But wouldn't surprise me one bit
Title: Re: Walleye opener
Post by: filetandrelease on May 01, 2022, 01:49 AM
 I spend a great deal of time fall fishing eyes and I’ve noticed the lack of shad along shore during late fall which most definitely is a huge factor contributing to the eyes being thinner , and yet the eyes seem to still prefer to eat perch over gobies which are plentiful , the perch think gobies are tasty
 Opening the eyes up early most certainly will increase the walleye take along with the 5 fish limit , 3 eyes are plenty for my house
    Now in Jefferson county there are still 3 commercial netting licenses out there , I believe at 1 time there was around 7 or more , hurting the perch population of Lake Ontario that’s a laugh , and those perch supply a lot of dinners here and in other states
 I’m 65 and that has been going on long before I was born
 Just my .02 for what it’s worth
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Post by: Badbrad2186 on May 01, 2022, 02:54 AM
I spend a great deal of time fall fishing eyes and I’ve noticed the lack of shad along shore during late fall which most definitely is a huge factor contributing to the eyes being thinner , and yet the eyes seem to still prefer to eat perch over gobies which are plentiful , the perch think gobies are tasty
 Opening the eyes up early most certainly will increase the walleye take along with the 5 fish limit , 3 eyes are plenty for my house
    Now in Jefferson county there are still 3 commercial netting licenses out there , I believe at 1 time there was around 7 or more , hurting the perch population of Lake Ontario that’s a laugh , and those perch supply a lot of dinners here and in other states
 I’m 65 and that has been going on long before I was born
 Just my .02 for what it’s worth

 
   
 
 
 
 
 

I can't disagree with ya just what I heard from the bait shop and he said he heard it from Dec officer a week prior. I'm 36 and I don't see if changing just the rumor I heard
Title: Re: Walleye opener
Post by: trapper2000 on May 01, 2022, 05:39 AM
i was  very happy  with the perch  fishing on oneida this year the  numbers were  good and they were mighty healthy looking perch
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Post by: pimplepounder on May 03, 2022, 05:08 PM
Lots of the Eyez I cleaned on Sunday we stuffed full of leaves and shrimp u can tell they have been sucking up the bottom also lots of small blue gills in the guts and the livewell
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Post by: fishinjohn on May 03, 2022, 07:11 PM
Lots of the Eyez I cleaned on Sunday we stuffed full of leaves and shrimp u can tell they have been sucking up the bottom also lots of small blue gills in the guts and the livewell
Baby blue gill to eyes are like surf and turf to us
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Post by: TomFish on May 04, 2022, 09:08 AM
Oh that's coming I hear talk of if dropping state wide to 25 and Jefferson county will also be the same. Just what I heard at the bait shop. But wouldn't surprise me one bit

whoa whoa whoa!  Lets not do anything crazy here! Make all the changes you want down there on Onieda and LG, but you leave Jefferson county out of that funny business!


(Edit) BadBrad, i know YOU weren't proposing that change, just reporting what you heard. But even entertaining the idea may give it more credibility in the eyes of the state.
Title: Re: Walleye opener
Post by: TomFish on May 04, 2022, 09:16 AM
  Now in Jefferson county there are still 3 commercial netting licenses out there , I believe at 1 time there was around 7 or more , hurting the perch population of Lake Ontario that’s a laugh , and those perch supply a lot of dinners here and in other states

Ive seen the hundreds of pounds of perch guys have been pulling out of Ontario and St Lawrence, not even counting the commercial nets.
People (on the internet) are always griping that someone ice fishing taking home two pails is "hurting" the perch population. They have no idea the volume of fish that come in off the big lake every year.


If that population were to drop considerably, i would support imposing some type of limit. But 25 or even 50 fish is too restrictive for the fishery.
Title: Re: Walleye opener
Post by: trapper2000 on May 04, 2022, 09:29 AM
tom they already have  started  jefferson county is  now  a  25  fish limit on  bluegills
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Post by: filetandrelease on May 04, 2022, 09:32 AM
tom they already have  started  jefferson county is  now  a  25  fish limit on  bluegills
State wide is 25, except a chosen few And another in Jefferson is 15 gills but I think in a couple years they will see the error of their ways
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Post by: TomFish on May 04, 2022, 11:15 AM
State wide is 25, except a chosen few And another in Jefferson is 15 gills but I think in a couple years they will see the error of their ways
I am only seeing a daily limit of 15 for sunfish on Red Lake and Sixtown pond, not county wide.
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Post by: filetandrelease on May 04, 2022, 12:34 PM
I am only seeing a daily limit of 15 for sunfish on Red Lake and Sixtown pond, not county wide.
It’s not county wide ,  a chosen few in Jefferson
 State wide is 25
 Caz lake in Madison county is 15
 
 
 
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Post by: Flukeman on May 04, 2022, 01:14 PM
If Sundays boat numbers are what we are going to see for openers, the walleyes are safe on Oneida. Least number of boats I've seen in a long time for an opener.
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Post by: 62 & Done on May 04, 2022, 01:32 PM
flukeman do you think a lot of guys went turkey hunting ? It was the same day.  this weekend may be a bunch busier and it is supposed to be another nice weekend.
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Post by: Badbrad2186 on May 04, 2022, 05:23 PM
If Sundays boat numbers are what we are going to see for openers, the walleyes are safe on Oneida. Least number of boats I've seen in a long time for an opener.

Will be a whole lot more boats this weekend either the tournament and all
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Post by: Flukeman on May 04, 2022, 07:47 PM
Not sure, I figured turkey played some role. It was pretty lumpy also, so the fair weather crowd may have taken a pass.
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Post by: reeleyz on May 05, 2022, 01:49 AM
If Sundays boat numbers are what we are going to see for openers, the walleyes are safe on Oneida. Least number of boats I've seen in a long time for an opener.

I was thinking the same thing. Sunday evening I think I saw 3 boats.

Last night I saw 1 boat.
Title: Re: Walleye opener
Post by: Flukeman on May 06, 2022, 09:45 AM
I think to there is a huge group of people not on forums and do not get DEC emails. They probably did not even realize it opened.
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Post by: lowaccord66 on May 06, 2022, 10:24 AM
I think to there is a huge group of people not on forums and do not get DEC emails. They probably did not even realize it opened.

Very likely.  In CT we had a lake open this year that has been closed to ice fishing forever.  Full of giant seaforellen browns.  A few savy guys got on it this year and enjoyed some awesome fishing.
Title: Re: Walleye opener
Post by: Hookset on May 07, 2022, 04:42 PM
Figured there should be at least 1 walleye pic in the walleye thread. I'm not a big walleye guy but they're pretty common in the early spring through early summer where I fish on the Hudson. I catch them fishing for smallies quite often. They seem to love a 1/2oz Rat L Trap in the craw pattern. This one took a DT 16.


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