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Title: salmon river
Post by: SalmonAndStriper Stalker on Oct 13, 2018, 12:28 AM
well my salmon river trip got cut short early. first day had 4 hookups and lost all them. second morning 12 hookups and landed 2. 19lb hen and a 18lb buck. i will post pics soon. i honestly didnt enjoy the style of fishing up there. its basically just snagging fish in the mouth thats all i view it as. i dont consider that "fishing" in my eyes. i view fishing as a head game of outsmarting a fish and getting them to take your hook. not just forcefully hooking them in the mouth as they swim by. maybe ill try it again for steelhead a fish that will actually bite your offering. not a real sporting way of fishing to me at all. catching them in the lake is way better.
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: MattyP123 on Oct 13, 2018, 05:08 AM
I took my first trip up this year and kinda felt the same way. Those salmon were awesome to watch though. Still can't compute how they can jump 2/3 foot out of 1' of water.
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: filetandrelease on Oct 13, 2018, 06:09 AM
After 40 + years of witnessing the runs here the browns and steelhead will definitely be more to your liking SASS
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: Baitbucket on Oct 13, 2018, 06:57 AM
i honestly didnt enjoy the style of fishing up there. its basically just snagging fish in the mouth thats all i view it as. i dont consider that "fishing" in my eyes.

That's the reason I haven't ever done it. Just not what I consider sport or fishing. I do know some guys have gotten them the "right" way tho.
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: Raquettedacker on Oct 13, 2018, 07:21 AM
Yeah, why would anyone come all that way to fight/catch one of those stupid things?  And they dont even taste good...     ..    ::)
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: dirtydeeds on Oct 13, 2018, 08:08 AM
I tell ya when I was younger I anxiously awaited the run and spent all types of money to catch those dying fish and I loved every minute of it. It's worth experiencing and any kid you take will remember it forever, I took my son last yr and he is begging to go this year but the water is too high near here for me to wanna go. It never gets old until you do LoL!!
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: filetandrelease on Oct 13, 2018, 08:31 AM

Well by the looks of the 1,000s that come seem to like it ,
 Its not for everyone , but to each to there own , I to enjoyed it for decades
  But it has lost its flare over the years 
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: Mac Attack on Oct 13, 2018, 08:39 AM
The smell of those rotting dead black fish make me want to puke.
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: Baitbucket on Oct 13, 2018, 09:19 AM
Well by the looks of the 1,000s that come seem to like it ,


Could you imagine the draw it would get if they weren't just snagging spawning fish in the face? There are people who call chasing stocking trucks "fishing" and shooting deer at feeders "hunting".. Not saying its wrong, but its not what I consider sport.
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: filetandrelease on Oct 13, 2018, 09:51 AM
Bait bucket your right about the draw ,
I should get some pics of the area , it’s amazing how many fishermen are here
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: Baitbucket on Oct 13, 2018, 01:39 PM
Bait bucket your right about the draw ,
I should get some pics of the area , it’s amazing how many fishermen are here

Ive seen pictures, commonly referred to as Combat Fishing...

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Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: filetandrelease on Oct 13, 2018, 03:14 PM
Lol yes sir it’s Been like that for a while now , if you want a seat at the bar or dinning  get there early 🥃
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: lowaccord66 on Oct 14, 2018, 03:37 AM
If that's combat fishing the canal was world war 3 this year!

Meet Fred, our local Salmon river ambassador.  8)
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: filetandrelease on Oct 14, 2018, 05:40 AM

 I’ve been called a lot of things , I’m positive ambassador isn’t on the list lmao
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: Baitbucket on Oct 14, 2018, 07:12 AM
If that's combat fishing the canal was world war 3 this year!


Hahaha i bet!
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: Knot there yet on Oct 15, 2018, 08:58 AM
Nothing like it used to be. Snag hooks thinned the crowd a lot. Steel head is just fancy snagging.
 The sport is landing them,foul hooked only makes it harder  to do. Truly the largest freshwater fish you’ll ever catch. They are hatchery fish so no reason to shed a tear. They spawn in buckets now not rocks. Catching  them actually cleans river some of carcasses.  If you’ve ever been hit bye 40bls carcass’s come down river they stink and hurt sometimes. No difference from canal. Word travels faster than light speed when fish are there. 
 Glad I’ve done it. Would go again
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: Jschumacher on Oct 15, 2018, 09:06 AM
well my salmon river trip got cut short early. first day had 4 hookups and lost all them. second morning 12 hookups and landed 2. 19lb hen and a 18lb buck. i will post pics soon. i honestly didnt enjoy the style of fishing up there. its basically just snagging fish in the mouth thats all i view it as. i dont consider that "fishing" in my eyes. i view fishing as a head game of outsmarting a fish and getting them to take your hook. not just forcefully hooking them in the mouth as they swim by. maybe ill try it again for steelhead a fish that will actually bite your offering. not a real sporting way of fishing to me at all. catching them in the lake is way better.
Fish aren't worth eating either. I remember when they had the snagging section. Guys would be throwing a weighted trebble like they were snagging poggies. The lake is way better for the Salmon. You won't go wrong if you give the Steelhead a try though. A lot of fun to catch.
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: Jschumacher on Oct 15, 2018, 09:12 AM
If that's combat fishing the canal was world war 3 this year!

Meet Fred, our local Salmon river ambassador.  8)

LOL right. This year at the ditch there would be 3 or 4 more guys squeezed in between they guy in the red and the guy in the blue. And the guy 7 or 8 down would be casting across them all
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: westernmas on Oct 15, 2018, 09:24 AM
Nothing like it used to be. Snag hooks thinned the crowd a lot. Steel head is just fancy snagging.
 The sport is landing them,foul hooked only makes it harder  to do. Truly the largest freshwater fish you’ll ever catch. They are hatchery fish so no reason to shed a tear. They spawn in buckets now not rocks. Catching  them actually cleans river some of carcasses.  If you’ve ever been hit bye 40bls carcass’s come down river they stink and hurt sometimes. No difference from canal. Word travels faster than light speed when fish are there. 
 Glad I’ve done it. Would go again

Steelhead fishing is not fancy snagging in my opinion.  Can you snag them in a similar manner to salmon? Yes, but you can also get them to bite your offering just like you can any other fish.  You can get them to hit regular nymphs you would use in any stream around here, streamers, and the typical egg patterns people throw for salmon.  Its really much different than salmon fishing, especially the later you get into the season.
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: lowaccord66 on Oct 15, 2018, 10:07 AM
LOL right. This year at the ditch there would be 3 or 4 more guys squeezed in between they guy in the red and the guy in the blue. And the guy 7 or 8 down would be casting across them all

This made me laugh.  So true.
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: Steve H. on Nov 05, 2018, 03:26 PM
Go in November or December for the steelhead and brown trout.  That is real fishing.  And yes, they take flies, both egg and stonefly patterns.  Those September-October king salmon are for the googans.
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: lowaccord66 on Nov 05, 2018, 04:11 PM
Tribs.   :)
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: CMD1987 on Nov 05, 2018, 10:07 PM
I prefer the local (all be it smaller) variety.
 :D
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Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: filetandrelease on Nov 06, 2018, 06:28 AM

Great looking fish 🎣
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: westernmas on Nov 06, 2018, 07:52 AM
I'm heading up tomorrow evening.  Anyone have any tips on fishing high water?  The flows are around 2000cfs last I looked and its supposed to rain up there today.  We might resort to exploring some of the smaller tribs in the area.
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: filetandrelease on Nov 06, 2018, 08:08 AM

It’s pouring here right now , rain forecasted next few days
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: lowaccord66 on Nov 06, 2018, 08:09 AM
Tribs!  :)
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: filetandrelease on Nov 06, 2018, 08:13 AM

A bud just called he fished a trib and ended up with a nice brown ,on a  glow egg pattern
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: lowaccord66 on Nov 06, 2018, 02:01 PM
I know Lance will be out there soon crushing.  I am going to make a pilgramage out there soon.
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: Knot there yet on Nov 07, 2018, 08:43 AM
When flow is at 2000cfs it’s dangerous. Be safe. I don’t think they even want you in the river. The sirens sound when they open gates. Friday low flow. Saturday 2’ lake effect snow and 2000cfs January 2016
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Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: westernmas on Nov 07, 2018, 11:56 AM
When flow is at 2000cfs it’s dangerous. Be safe. I don’t think they even want you in the river. The sirens sound when they open gates. Friday low flow. Saturday 2’ lake effect snow and 2000cfs January 2016

1640 as of today.  They didnt get much rain yesterday.  There's minimal precipitation for the next couple of days so it will be high but should be fishable.
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: lowaccord66 on Nov 08, 2018, 07:37 AM
The farmington is up higher than 1640 in spots!  By the office it was 3000 cfs yesterday!
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: westernmas on Nov 12, 2018, 10:35 AM
Got skunked at the salmon river.  The fishing conditions and weather really made things tough.  We got there and the flows were around 1500 cfs but they held back the dam and things quickly dropped to 500 over two days.  I think the change in flows messed with the fish and shut the bite down a little.  I hooked into two but didn't come close to landing either.  Out of 7 guys only 2 steelhead were landed (by the same guy of course).  By Sunday the fish seemed to have settled in to the lower flows and there were many more people hooking up but it was a free fishing day so the crowds were unbearable.  It was a still a great time up at the camp but it would have been nice to get into the fish a little better.  I'll be back shortly, possibly give it a go in the spring.
Title: Re: salmon river
Post by: SHaRPS on Nov 13, 2018, 06:18 AM
One way or another, great job getting up there and giving it a whirl.