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Title: Trolling Live Shiners
Post by: JWHORF on Sep 12, 2023, 03:52 PM
Hey now!

I am going to be trolling using a dipsy diver and would like to troll a large live shiner.
How does everyone rig the shiner when trolling in fairly deep water?

Thanks in advance,

Jeremy
Title: Re: Trolling Live Shiners
Post by: fishinjohn on Sep 12, 2023, 07:02 PM
Hey now!

I am going to be trolling using a dipsy diver and would like to troll a large live shiner.
How does everyone rig the shiner when trolling in fairly deep water?

Thanks in advance,

Jeremy
I personally wouldn't use a dipsy...
I'd use bottom bouncer with a 2ft fluorocarbon leader and a slow death hook... hook that shiner through the nose
Title: Re: Trolling Live Shiners
Post by: JWHORF on Sep 12, 2023, 07:13 PM
Even use a bottom bouncer if I won't really be close to the bottom?
I will be trolling in deep water sometimes over 100 fow.

The plan is to get down to 20 - 60 fow and get lucky for a salmon and maybe catch a few bronze backs in the process.

Thanks
Title: Re: Trolling Live Shiners
Post by: fishinjohn on Sep 12, 2023, 07:24 PM
Even use a bottom bouncer if I won't really be close to the bottom?
I will be trolling in deep water sometimes over 100 fow.

The plan is to get down to 20 - 60 fow and get lucky for a salmon and maybe catch a few bronze backs in the process.

Thanks
Ohhhhhh you're going way deep!!!! ????
I'd use the same method off a dipsy... long leader with a shiner hooked through the nose.. slow death would give it a twist as long as you use a barrel swivel ..
I've done well with this off bouncers on 30 fow for eyes
Title: Re: Trolling Live Shiners
Post by: JWHORF on Sep 13, 2023, 02:13 PM
Yes, Very Deep! I attempt to troll for salmon every fall on Lake George unsuccessfully. 
It usually ends up being a nice boat ride until we decide to jig for Lakers.  I am hopeful that a shiner may entice some small mouth action and
break up the monotony of the "boat ride" while fishing for salmon.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Trolling Live Shiners
Post by: lowaccord66 on Sep 13, 2023, 04:09 PM
I fish LG a lot but dont target salmon.  Later fall I have slayed smallies but they were exceptionally deep.  Suspended in 78 fow.  For the salmon a leadcore setup and db smelts would be more plausible than a large shiner. 
Title: Re: Trolling Live Shiners
Post by: JWHORF on Sep 14, 2023, 03:17 PM
What is a db smelt?

We only target salmon for a short while / until we get bored.  The Smallies will hopefully give us a little action.

Thanks
Any input / help is appreciated.
Title: Re: Trolling Live Shiners
Post by: Mac Attack on Sep 14, 2023, 04:10 PM
https://www.kitterytradingpost.com/fishing-marine/freshwater-jigs-spoons/freshwater-trolling-spoons/db-smelt-lure-25578.html (https://www.kitterytradingpost.com/fishing-marine/freshwater-jigs-spoons/freshwater-trolling-spoons/db-smelt-lure-25578.html)
Title: Re: Trolling Live Shiners
Post by: lowaccord66 on Sep 15, 2023, 07:09 AM
Killer there because the smelt arent huge.
Title: Re: Trolling Live Shiners
Post by: JWHORF on Sep 18, 2023, 04:39 PM
Thanks guys.

I will grab a few different colors and try my luck.

Title: Re: Trolling Live Shiners
Post by: Mac Attack on Sep 18, 2023, 07:20 PM
Thanks guys.

I will grab a few different colors and try my luck.


Tell us how you do - with pics please!!!
Title: Re: Trolling Live Shiners
Post by: JWHORF on Sep 18, 2023, 08:04 PM
 I won't be going for a week or 2, but I will keep everyone posted with pics!

Thanks again,

Jeremy
Title: Re: Trolling Live Shiners
Post by: lowaccord66 on Sep 19, 2023, 06:00 AM
Nice I dont bother with LG until the "boating season" closes and you dont need a LGA sticker.  (Oct 30)  salmon will be all over and deep in a couple weeks.
Title: Re: Trolling Live Shiners
Post by: seamonkey84 on Sep 19, 2023, 01:19 PM
Hook the shiner right through the lip or using an adjustable bait harness (like a nightcrawler harness for walleyes). Main thing is going slow, like a slow walking pace.
Title: Re: Trolling Live Shiners
Post by: JWHORF on Sep 19, 2023, 03:38 PM
Agreed. It can be a zoo out there, especially near the million-dollar boat launch. 
We were all ready to go last weekend, until we got to the launch, and it was jam packed.  Little did we know that
the King George Fishing Derby was taking place that day.  We immediately turned around and fished the river for Smallies and walleyes.


Title: Re: Trolling Live Shiners
Post by: JWHORF on Sep 19, 2023, 03:39 PM
Seamonkey,

Thats exactly what I rigged up.  A sliding 2 hook rig for live bait.
I am looking forward to trying it out.
Any recommendations on how big of a shiner to use?
Title: Re: Trolling Live Shiners
Post by: lowaccord66 on Sep 19, 2023, 05:30 PM
I wouldnt go past medium.  Smelt there are small.  If you want salmon trolling id go up 10 exits...thats rough with the derby.  Its a ghost town in December and thats when I like to go before ice up after the lakers spawn.

Also the lake will not have flipped yet so I wouldnt fish super deep or shallow.  If you can mark the thermocline on your finder you want to troll where that thermocline meets structure.