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MFF US Northeast => Maine => Topic started by: gamefisher on Apr 24, 2016, 09:13 AM
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What is everybody using for the 2016 season? Anything new and improved out there?
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ill be going on my second year with three reels that have Cortland on them and I just ordered a new reel with cabelas leadcore line we will see how it holds up.
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Gonna re-load my 4 leadcore rods this year.
It was going on 4 years for the old stuff.
I know it's Dacron, still.......
I bought Cabelas 27#
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Gonna re-load my 4 leadcore rods this year.
It was going on 4 years for the old stuff.
I know it's Dacron, still.......
I bought Cabelas 27#
27#??? You towing a vehicle or lures? ;D ;D Seriously, try the 12# & you'll get more fish movement after hook up.
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12lb Suffix and 12lb Suffix 832. Both work alright, the 832 does sink more per color the regular stuff. Wanna try out the Micro lead.
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Suffix Advance. Sinks alot deeper then the old suffix.
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27#??? You towing a vehicle or lures? ;D ;D Seriously, try the 12# & you'll get more fish movement after hook up.
I used the 14# in the past and had far too many break offs.
Also very hard to thread the leader up inside the Dacron casing on the thin stuff when I want to tie it that way.
Also, the salmon and trout we have in here in Lake Ontario warrant more than 12-14# line.
I got tired of losing fish, but more importantly, losing gear.
The 27# stuff works fine for us.
But thanks.
Mac
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I used the 14# in the past and had far too many break offs.
Also very hard to thread the leader up inside the Dacron casing on the thin stuff when I want to tie it that way.
Also, the salmon and trout we have in here in Lake Ontario warrant more than 12-14# line.
I got tired of losing fish, but more importantly, losing gear.
The 27# stuff works fine for us.
But thanks.
Mac
I assume Bob was thinking your catching 2-5lb Maine fish. Not the Lake O Monsters lol.
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I assume Bob was thinking your catching 2-5lb Maine fish. Not the Lake O Monsters lol.
Yup, and I have to be honest, I really typically catch Lake Erie walleye.
They are normally 5-8# but we do get them over 10 occasionally.
Still, I don't like losing gear.
I ran the lighter 14# for about 2 yrs and for the <10% increase in catch ratio it wasn't worth the headaches.
But he's right.
Lighter is better in a lot of instances.
Mac
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Suffix Advance. Sinks alot deeper then the old suffix.
What he said.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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I used the 14# in the past and had far too many break offs.
Also very hard to thread the leader up inside the Dacron casing on the thin stuff when I want to tie it that way.
Also, the salmon and trout we have in here in Lake Ontario warrant more than 12-14# line.
I got tired of losing fish, but more importantly, losing gear.
The 27# stuff works fine for us.
But thanks.
Mac
I should have looked where you were located. Sorry, you do catch some monsters. :)
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I should have looked where you were located. Sorry, you do catch some monsters. :)
Never be sorry.
;)
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On the last of the old 12# Cabelas Eric, so I will be watching this thread with interest.
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I've only used it a few times this year and just a couple fish hauled in with it but I'm real happy with the tuf line micro lead I just spooled up on my penn. Next time I re spool my other reels I'll switch them all over to it.
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On the last of the old 12# Cabelas Eric, so I will be watching this thread with interest.
I wish I had stocked up when Uncle Bob told me to. :D
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I wish I had stocked up when Uncle Bob told me to. :D
Needless to say Eric, I still have some new spools. ;D
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Needless to say Eric, I still have some new spools. ;D
Why don't you send a couple of those spools north, might as well throw in those useless Suttons you've been hoarding as well. ;D
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I had a problem with the Suffix kinking and was not a big fan. I'm not sure if they've improved it. I've been using the Tuf Line micro 15lb and like it. Seems somewhat fade resistant and is holding up well. I moved off the Willis knot with the new stuff and use a uni to uni. Works well. These advanced lines do sink a lot faster and I get creative withe splicing on certain set ups to ensure in clear water I'm getting enough line behind the boat when only using a color or two (in some cases 1/2). I used to like the Cortland and Cabelas as it tracked more like fly line but now I find the sheathing dries out quickly and color fades. Knowing you you'll find a way to finagle some new old stock from someone or walk into a no name convenience store and find in on the wall for $1.99. I'm not bitter - just jealous.
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I use the Cortland 18# because it's cheap. I think you can get it online for less than $20 a spool. Yes, I think the color fades too fast but it's cheap enough that I replace it every other year.
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Suffix 832 Advanced is great. Far and away a deeper diving core at equal poundage than any other brand. You pay for that depth though at the counter. As Tunker mentioned the regular suffix has some issues. I'm not sure if the plain suffix has worked that out of not.
The cabelas "old stock" everyone loves is just Woodstock in Cableas drag. I can't imagine they rerigged the mills just for special cabelas runs. So Woodstock you buy now should be the same as the old cabelas. Ive got a few new spools of each and its identical. On the reel preforms identical.. Woodstock is also reasonably priced I have had good luck with it in the past. The local store sells woodstock mill ends. Spools with only 6 or 7 colors. It's held up great and for the asking price of $4.00 is great for spooling up 3 or 4 cores. Or board cores.
The new Cabelas line is made by Tuffline. So whatever you can buy from Tuffline for leadcore is the same as Cabelas new stuff and vise versa. I've always had trouble with the top color on the spool fading on all cabelas new and old. It doesn't bother me though because I can always see when it breaks to the second. Both dive and handle pretty similar to the woodstock. The Woodstock maybe doesn't bleed out as bad. Hard to say
Cortland has new 3 color "walleye core" spools. They have done this for awhile but the line changed this year. It was immediately noticeable. I don't know why it's different from the 10 color spools of Cortland or the older walleye cores but it is and it's excellent. It's the closest thing I've seen to the 832 in dive rate. It also maintains its color well. Of all the cores I've tried it seems to be the most kink resistant of all.
The company that produces either bloodrun or morgans copper has come out with a new leadcore that's 10 colors and it uses only the colors red and black. The theory is the color red dissolves the quickest as it achieves depth and black is....well black. Personally I don't think the color of lead is going to scare a fish. That's what leaders for but the companies make excellent products. If the lead is as good as copper it should be top notch. A friend in Michigan sent me a spool. Haven't tested yet as it has not arrived
Best bang for buck: woodstock aka old cabelas
Best performance : 832
Best all around: Cortland walleye (dives darn close to 832 for less money )
Subject to change upon review of the new stuff
Side note: woodstock produces 100 pound test lead core. The mill end spools are only a few bucks and work great for sinking weight if you just cut them in desired sections and twist around main line
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Thanks for the info. guys. Ironically, the on line reviews of the suffix advanced are quite poor, definitely value the opinion of Maine guys that actually fish and use. 8)
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Don't be afraid to email the manufacturer. After reading many online reviews, I had some questions about different lines. Many reviews online may be dated anyway so i fired away some questions before i spent the money.
I got some honest responses and some feedback about improvements others just blah, blah. Tuf line answered my question specifically and went even further by asking if I wanted to try a sample. I emailed her back and said yes, of course. 3 days later I got a hat and a 100yds of micro 18#. Not saying that its the best line but when a mfg is willing to put their product where their mouth is...I've used it 3x and it feels strong, with the smaller diameter the difference in drag is very noticeable. Feels great on the hookset. The colors are bright and no bleed so far which was one of the consistent although older reviews.
I use and have used various leadcore without any issues, the spool I replaced was years old but was fine but for getting a little shorter over the years and a few nicks in the braid. But it was nice to get some new stuff.
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Thanks Shrinkage, I have the first generation tuff line micro lead on there now, like I said not terrible by any means, just always looking for better. Maybe the newer versions are even better. :-\
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Suffix 832 Advanced is great. Far and away a deeper diving core at equal poundage than any other brand. You pay for that depth though at the counter. As Tunker mentioned the regular suffix has some issues. I'm not sure if the plain suffix has worked that out of not.
The cabelas "old stock" everyone loves is just Woodstock in Cableas drag. I can't imagine they rerigged the mills just for special cabelas runs. So Woodstock you buy now should be the same as the old cabelas. Ive got a few new spools of each and its identical. On the reel preforms identical.. Woodstock is also reasonably priced I have had good luck with it in the past. The local store sells woodstock mill ends. Spools with only 6 or 7 colors. It's held up great and for the asking price of $4.00 is great for spooling up 3 or 4 cores. Or board cores.
The new Cabelas line is made by Tuffline. So whatever you can buy from Tuffline for leadcore is the same as Cabelas new stuff and vise versa. I've always had trouble with the top color on the spool fading on all cabelas new and old. It doesn't bother me though because I can always see when it breaks to the second. Both dive and handle pretty similar to the woodstock. The Woodstock maybe doesn't bleed out as bad. Hard to say
Cortland has new 3 color "walleye core" spools. They have done this for awhile but the line changed this year. It was immediately noticeable. I don't know why it's different from the 10 color spools of Cortland or the older walleye cores but it is and it's excellent. It's the closest thing I've seen to the 832 in dive rate. It also maintains its color well. Of all the cores I've tried it seems to be the most kink resistant of all.
The company that produces either bloodrun or morgans copper has come out with a new leadcore that's 10 colors and it uses only the colors red and black. The theory is the color red dissolves the quickest as it achieves depth and black is....well black. Personally I don't think the color of lead is going to scare a fish. That's what leaders for but the companies make excellent products. If the lead is as good as copper it should be top notch. A friend in Michigan sent me a spool. Haven't tested yet as it has not arrived
Best bang for buck: woodstock aka old cabelas
Best performance : 832
Best all around: Cortland walleye (dives darn close to 832 for less money )
Subject to change upon review of the new stuff
Side note: woodstock produces 100 pound test lead core. The mill end spools are only a few bucks and work great for sinking weight if you just cut them in desired sections and twist around main line
Hey Everett, trying to send you a PM but your inbox is full.
Never mind I sent you an email.
tight lines,
sul
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I'm running the new cabelas lead 27# and it is junk compared to the old stuff, never had lead kink and break out of the coating as much as this, going to try that Woodstock brand.
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tried some of the micro stuff a few years ago and hated it, went back to 18 pound kerplunk
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tried some of the micro stuff a few years ago and hated it, went back to 18 pound kerplunk
I thought Cortland kerplunk was no longer being made? Fleabay?
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I thought kerplunk was out of business? Fleabay?
i bought 20 three color end sections years ago from kittery for cheap, my boat is setup for along time ;D i keep watching these lead core threads hoping someday some company gets it right. three colors is all i fish anymore. i do see some on ebay, just not the 18
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I wish I had stocked up when Uncle Bob told me to. :D
I did!!! However, I'm not ready to part with any just yet!! ;D
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I just saw a Penn 309 with 200yds of leadcore line for sale on Craig's list for $60. I looks in great shape
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I just saw a Penn 309 with 200yds of leadcore line for sale on Craig's list for $60. I looks in great shape
It does, thank you. :tipup:
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I see the price was dropped to $50. I already have 4 lead core reels or I would buy it.
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I see the price was dropped to $50. I already have 4 lead core reels or I would buy it.
I am personally a 12 or 15 pd. lead core guy and have too many reels already but would make a nice reliable unit for someone getting started and a good price. :tipup:
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I am personally a 12 or 15 pd. lead core guy and have too many reels already but would make a nice reliable unit for someone getting started and a good price. :tipup:
Old thread but some great old fishermen on it - what's everybody loving on these days? Same old or something new and different?
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Tuf-Line Microlead.
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I’ve had good luck with tuff-line ,
Last few years Been running mason
Zero issues
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Tuf-Line Microlead.
Are all 10 colors one color like mine now Jay? ;D
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igot a spool thats all black just marked it off at 10 yards with a paint pen
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Call me crazy but I think I'm going to try the Stealth core, two color principle, just wish 18# wasn't the lightest it comes.
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crazy
8)
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Are all 10 colors one color like mine now Jay? ;D
It is bad isn't it.
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Anybody try Stealthcore? Alternating Black/Red
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Anybody try Stealthcore? Alternating Black/Red
I know someone using it. He said it has not bled yet (second season). He didn't notice any real difference in catching with it but did say you had to pay closer attention to know what you had out.
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I actually found a spool of 12# Woodstock in some fishing stuff I had, no clue how old or long I've had it, and threw it on an old Penn 209. Took a little dip last night with it, cant speak to long term durability or color fade, but virtually no drag through the water which I enjoyed, we'll see. :tipup:
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Ive been using 18# woodstock for nearly 20 years... haven't had a problem with it yet!
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Anybody try Stealthcore? Alternating Black/Red
I've used it and didn't really care for it, I use line counters so having
2 colors doesn't matter to me but I can see it being a pain without line counters.
It seems to have more memory and didn't pack on the spools as well other brands which made it more prone to back lashing.
I bought a bulk spool and I think I have some left if you want to try it.
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Has anyone tried the leadcore now being offered by a company called Reaction Tackle? Rating seems good, thinking it might be worth a test drive.
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Has anyone tried the leadcore now being offered by a company called Reaction Tackle? Rating seems good, thinking it might be worth a test drive.
Price looks decent too.