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Title: Wawasee
Post by: PEARCHEYES on Mar 04, 2018, 02:58 PM
Perch were Hungary today kept 20,the three biggest were right at 11",the rest were 8 to 10
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Post by: 1eyechaser on Mar 04, 2018, 05:20 PM
were they in the weeds, are they spawning ?
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Post by: PEARCHEYES on Mar 10, 2018, 06:11 PM
Hit wawasee this morning ,I was breaking 1/8 to1/4 skim ice to get out to perch territory.The bite was slow until it warmed up and the ice broke up .I ended up with 12,biggest one was11" I think it will be better when the water warms up a few degrees
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Post by: PEARCHEYES on Mar 12, 2018, 08:08 AM
Wawasee was good to me Sunday ,fish were cruising shallow flats ,I ended up with 27 .The biggest one went 13 a true hog
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Post by: bigr on Mar 12, 2018, 08:37 AM
What you using for them right now? How are you fishing for them. How do you locate them? By the way thanks for letting us know how many your getting and what lake.
Title: Re: Wawasee
Post by: taxid on Mar 12, 2018, 09:44 AM
Hit wawasee this morning ,I was breaking 1/8 to1/4 skim ice to get out to perch territory.The bite was slow until it warmed up and the ice broke up .I ended up with 12,biggest one was11" I think it will be better when the water warms up a few degrees

Too early for spawning.
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Post by: PEARCHEYES on Mar 18, 2018, 07:42 PM
Fished wawasee today from 10 till 5.Perch were in the 7 to 8 flats .We kept 17 ,with just as many throwbacks.beautiful day to be on the water!Did hook a bonus hog largemouth which was returned to fight again
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Post by: indianahooker on Mar 19, 2018, 05:47 AM
stay on them percheyes.  we were out there all weekend pulling bars.  the 2 boats ended up with 72 keepers. there were 28 that went over 11".  the biggest was almost 14".

bigr you can catch perch with all kinds of stuff.  we use floats and worms most of the time.  johnsons bay all the way to cedar point is a good area.  so is the shore all along catherine rd.  in the afternoon they seemed to be up shallower.  cruise and cast till you score some.  then you try to stay with them. 
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Post by: taxid on Mar 19, 2018, 06:43 AM
Almost 14 inches? Congrats that' a big one for Wawa!

I'm going to wait for warmer weather!
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Post by: bev on Mar 19, 2018, 07:11 AM
nice
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Post by: Bobber Watcher on Mar 19, 2018, 11:58 AM
Spot on Indianahooker, best spot on wawasee
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Post by: bigr on Mar 19, 2018, 01:22 PM
Thank you Hooker. I have a couple lakes I catch a few by accident. I want to put some real effort into catching a meals worth. Sounds like this is the time I should get out. When you say worms are you talking wigglers, pcs of night crawlers?
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Post by: taxid on Mar 19, 2018, 10:34 PM
I have a guy bringing a musky in to mount. Believe it or not it was caught on Wawasee. Apparently someone thought planting one caught in another lake was at some point in it's life was good thing. At least I'm not aware of any adjoining water bodies that are planted by the state?
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Post by: MC_angler on Mar 20, 2018, 09:18 AM
I have a guy bringing a musky in to mount. Believe it or not it was caught on Wawasee. Apparently someone thought planting one caught in another lake was at some point in it's life was good thing. At least I'm not aware of any adjoining water bodies that are planted by the state?

There have been other random muskies seen in Wawasee. And a few others around the state. Two possibilities - bucket brigade transporting them, or there is a remote chance that one swam from Skinner. Anglers moving them around is probably more likely

"Wawasee drains through Turkey Creek into the Elkhart River, so a fish may be able to swim downstream out of Skinner, make a left turn, and then back upstream to Wawasee. It’s possible but not likely."

http://www.in.gov/activecalendar_dnr/EventList.aspx?fromdate=11/1/2017&todate=11/30/2017&display=Month&type=public&eventidn=9339&view=EventDetails&information_id=19798&print=print



Title: Re: Wawasee
Post by: taxid on Mar 20, 2018, 10:49 PM
There have been other random muskies seen in Wawasee. And a few others around the state. Two possibilities - bucket brigade transporting them, or there is a remote chance that one swam from Skinner. Anglers moving them around is probably more likely

"Wawasee drains through Turkey Creek into the Elkhart River, so a fish may be able to swim downstream out of Skinner, make a left turn, and then back upstream to Wawasee. It’s possible but not likely."

http://www.in.gov/activecalendar_dnr/EventList.aspx?fromdate=11/1/2017&todate=11/30/2017&display=Month&type=public&eventidn=9339&view=EventDetails&information_id=19798&print=print

Thank you for the information. Didn't know there was a possible connection of Skinner to Wawasee albeit not direct. I find the "not likely" comment by Price amusing judging by my limited experience rearing fish on my property in my four ponds. Although there is no way any of my fish in my four ponds can escape the property I have learned several things about fish.

1. All species of fish seem to have a natural tendency to move from one body of water to another if at all possible. In my case it was a couple of connected ponds. I once had bluegills swim over 200 feet upstream though flowing water via a drainage pipe to another pond.

2. All species seem to be attracted to moving water and like to swim against it or with it. This means they will leave a body of water via an inlet or outlet if possible. They seem also more likely to want to travel as fry or fingerlings.

3. Fish are the ultimate escape artists. In my floating fish cages if there is an opening big enough for them to escape they will find it!

3. There is a very strong will to procreate. I once had all male yellow perch in a floating cage with free swimming females in the rest of the pond. The bottom of the cage was about 5 feet off the bottom attached to a pier. I used zip ties to put the cage material together and had one piece of excess zip tie sticking out of a bottom corner about 6 inches. From the outside a female perch swam up and draped her 2 foot egg strand on that piece of protruding zip tie. No doubt the males in the cage probably inundated it with milt.

I also once topped off an adjacent pond with water from another pond I was hatching yellow perch in. I used a trash pump and the perch fry evidently were able to survive going through the trash pump as I had perch in the pond that wasn't supposed to have perch when I seined it a few months later.
Title: Re: Wawasee
Post by: kfishdoctor on Mar 21, 2018, 07:24 AM
Fish eggs can be transported by birds from one place to another. Also,New hatched fish can be "stuck" in the feathers and come free just like the eggs would when the bird landed or took off. I agree with taxid with swimming patterns of fish. They love to swim against the current or through something. Years ago I had an aquarium  that was attached to an exact same one next to it.  1 1/2" pipe at 4" long. The filter intake was in one and the outlet was in the other.  One they figured it out they spent more time going back and forth that staying put in either one.
Title: Re: Wawasee
Post by: taxid on Mar 21, 2018, 09:40 AM
A lot of biologists disagree about the fish egg transport thing but when it comes to nature I think anything's possible.

Occam's razor here: Usually the simplest explanation is the right one. If waterways connect in any way then you have the potential for emigration. And moving fish by live wells would be quite easy to do especially if an angler doesn't have far to go. A lot of self proclaimed biologists out there that think they know what's best for the favorite body of water.
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Post by: MC_angler on Mar 21, 2018, 10:14 AM
It's probable that the reason is either natural fish movement via connecting waterways, or an angler intentionally moving.

It's very very unlikely to be eggs, as there is no documented muskie reproduction and the muskies are stocked at 8-12 inches long
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Post by: Hexagenia51 on Mar 21, 2018, 10:30 AM
Another example of invasive species in the See (probably livewell or bucket transports). There's also been white bass showing up over there in the last few years. This BS could seriously hurt the quality perch fishing over there. Better stop this crap before it's too late, if it's not already too late. Just saying! Hex
Title: Re: Wawasee
Post by: Hexagenia51 on Mar 21, 2018, 07:49 PM
pretty sure they are reproducing in ball lake.
Where the hell is ball lake and how is it connected to the See?
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Post by: fishinpo1e1 on Mar 21, 2018, 08:09 PM
Back in the early 70's a local fishing club/conservation club stocked walleye and muskie fingerlings in Wawasee. I think it was in 1974.
One guy I know had caught quite a few Walleye up to 5/6# over the years but none lately.
I have seen several boats trolling for muskie during the day and one large cruiser trolling at night with a full complement of outriggers etc. The captain shined his light on his outriggers so that I wouldn't run into them.
As far as white bass the lake is loaded with them. About 8 years ago I caught 4,5,6,7,8 and 12 inch white bass while night fishing. I saved them whole and called the DNR. They knew about the situation but did not want to see the fish because the report I gave them confirmed reproduction. The DNR also knew white bass of up to 15" were reported caught. I have personally caught an 18 1/2" white bass at night on Wawasee. Last Spring we saw a huge school of small 4" white bass swarm along the banks of a channel in tight formation of more than 100.
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Post by: taxid on Mar 21, 2018, 09:17 PM
Hexagenia51,

Ball Lake is in Steuben County and was stocked with trout at one time and later tiger musky. Obviously not connected to "The See."

http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/files/Ball_Lake_Diag_Study-Steuben%20County-Jan03.pdf
Title: Re: Wawasee
Post by: Hexagenia51 on Mar 21, 2018, 10:39 PM
It's probably been at least 20 plus years ago while night fishing smallies on the See, I caught a five pound walleye on a crawdad crank bait. Only one we ever caught out there and back then we fished it often through the summer months. I've heard of a few others but never actually saw any others and no recent stories about eyes! Hex
Title: Re: Wawasee
Post by: PEARCHEYES on Mar 28, 2018, 06:17 PM
Hit wawasee today ,fished hard all day ended the day with 10 .Four of them went 12 ,the rest 9 and could of 8s The spawn is getting close a couple were spitting eggs water temp is 40
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Post by: taxid on Mar 28, 2018, 09:15 PM
Hit wawasee today ,fished hard all day ended the day with 10 .Four of them went 12 ,the rest 9 and could of 8s The spawn is getting close a couple were spitting eggs water temp is 40

Water temp needs to hit upper 40's for all the yellow perch to get going. A few will be early and a few late.

Haven't seen one egg ribbon in my yellow perch production pond yet and it's usually early than the lakes.
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Post by: PEARCHEYES on Mar 31, 2018, 01:07 PM
Tried wawasee this morning before the winds and rain,two small perch and two avg bass    THANKS MOTHER NATURE!
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Post by: taxid on Mar 31, 2018, 06:54 PM
Saw my first yellow perch egg ribbons today in the pond.
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Post by: RoeBoat on Mar 31, 2018, 09:43 PM
This weather is rough for getting some predictable fishing when you can get away!
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Post by: taxid on Mar 31, 2018, 09:50 PM
This weather is rough for getting some predictable fishing when you can get away!

I live 10 minutes from Wawasee and not only was the wind howling but it was hailing here today!
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Post by: PEARCHEYES on Apr 04, 2018, 05:55 PM
Giving it a go tomorrow,lighter winds ,ice fishing suit ,and hopefully some yellow bars!Anybone else going to brave the cold!
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Post by: taxid on Apr 04, 2018, 09:11 PM
Hell No!  ::) ;D
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Post by: TennesseeFreeze on Apr 04, 2018, 09:19 PM
I'll be fishing. You must suffer for your art.
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Post by: taxid on Apr 04, 2018, 09:28 PM
I'll be fishing. You must suffer for your art.

Good comeback.  ;D

I guess I'm a fair weather fisherman in my old age. I want to enjoy the experience.  ;)
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Post by: fishinpo1e1 on Apr 05, 2018, 11:06 AM
Giving it a go tomorrow,lighter winds ,ice fishing suit ,and hopefully some yellow bars!Anybone else going to brave the cold!

Actually the weather today is nice. Low wind with sun. Perch ought to be cruising the perch grass and or mud flats.
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Post by: taxid on Apr 05, 2018, 12:32 PM
They are definitely dropping the eggs in my perch pond. Never had them do it in this cold of water but I guess they can't hold them forever. Survivability for the fry will be low this year unless it warms up quickly. Water needs to be about 10 degrees warmer to produce the phytoplankton that feeds the zooplankton which the minute fry feed on. Might be a good thing though. If an age class is reduced in numbers it could produce larger perch in the long run.
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Post by: PEARCHEYES on Apr 05, 2018, 02:53 PM
No perch cruising anywhere for me today😡I fished everywhere and all depths,just some bass for my efforts today.Maybe when this crazy up and down,storm front after storm front weather stabilizes the bite will be on again
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Post by: taxid on Apr 05, 2018, 07:06 PM
It's snowing here now so I'm sure it's snowing at Wawasee!  ::) 
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Post by: fishinpo1e1 on Apr 07, 2018, 09:58 AM
you have a rare insight to many things, with that pond of yours. lol  always something to observe.  thanks for sharing it with us.
This morning I watched a Loon catching small perch along the weedline in front of my house. The Loon would slowly paddle around with his head under water looking for fish. When he dove he must have to chase the fish a long way but occassionally he would come up with a fish 50 to 100 feet away.
Also the coots and small diving ducks like the same area. I wonder if they are eating perch eggs.
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Post by: taxid on Apr 07, 2018, 10:06 AM
This morning I watched a Loon catching small perch along the weedline in front of my house. The Loon would slowly paddle around with his head under water looking for fish. When he dove he must have to chase the fish a long way but occassionally he would come up with a fish 50 to 100 feet away.
Also the coots and small diving ducks like the same area. I wonder if they are eating perch eggs.

You saw a loon on Wawasee? Or was it another lake?

Virtually nothing eats perch eggs. They are naturally repulsive to potential predators. The only think I've seen feed on them are snails if the eggs weren't fertilized and they are decomposing. Even then that takes a while.


https://thefisheriesblog.com/2017/02/06/predators-reject-yellow-perch-egg-skeins/
Title: Re: Wawasee
Post by: taxid on Apr 07, 2018, 10:07 AM
you have a rare insight to many things, with that pond of yours. lol  always something to observe.  thanks for sharing it with us.

Thank you for enjoying my posts. There are a few on here I annoy.
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Post by: abishop on Apr 07, 2018, 10:10 AM
This morning I watched a Loon catching small perch along the weedline in front of my house. The Loon would slowly paddle around with his head under water looking for fish. When he dove he must have to chase the fish a long way but occassionally he would come up with a fish 50 to 100 feet away.
Also the coots and small diving ducks like the same area. I wonder if they are eating perch eggs.
I was surprised to see about 30 loons on a lake I was on. But, I was surprised to see the big crappie they could eat. Had to be at least a 8 or 9 incher.
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Post by: taxid on Apr 07, 2018, 10:15 AM
I guessing they are passing through?  Might be in for a big surprise if they go too far north and find ice! I know they won't stick around on developed lakes.

I really enjoyed them when I took a fly in trip to northern Maine with my dad to fish a remote lake and some ponds up in the mountains on trails. We had one pop up next to the canoe to check us out. Those red eyes are wild looking!

Absolutely love the sounds they make! it's so beautiful it brings tears to me eyes!

http://www.loon.org/voice-loon.php
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Post by: fishinpo1e1 on Apr 07, 2018, 10:46 AM
You saw a loon on Wawasee? Or was it another lake?

Virtually nothing eats perch eggs. They are naturally repulsive to potential predators. The only think I've seen feed on them are snails if the eggs weren't fertilized and they are decomposing. Even then that takes a while.


https://thefisheriesblog.com/2017/02/06/predators-reject-yellow-perch-egg-skeins/

The Loon I watched was on Syracuse Lake this morning. We only see them in single or pairs after ice out and sometimes in the Fall.
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Post by: taxid on Apr 07, 2018, 11:57 AM
Maybe headed to the U.P.?
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Post by: RoeBoat on Apr 09, 2018, 09:33 AM
Saw several loons on the Detroit River yesterday.  Would get really close to the boat occasionally, should have taken a picture.